Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:44 pm


[4:20:50 AM-Wednesday, March 28th, 2012 (+11UCT)] Michael Toldnes - JT!: Is there any information available on the origins of life upon earth? I am being asked this question...and do recal the other day chat about the dragons home world!
[8:33:37 AM] Tonyblue: Yes JT and you will like the answer
[8:33:52 AM] Tonyblue: Life on earth began from the crystal kingdomn
[8:34:21 AM] Tonyblue: This derives from the nonparity of radioactivity
[8:34:35 AM] Tonyblue: Iow the weak elementary nuclear interaction
[8:35:18 AM] Tonyblue: Because this symmetry is skewed the left-and right handed amino acids and sugars are differentiated as the so called 'code of life'
[8:35:55 AM] Tonyblue: So quantum physics and a fivefolded symmetry caused the emergence of life from the crystalline geometries
[8:37:06 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well i do love crystals!
[8:37:50 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so the human body form and the dna instructions of how it looks came from the crystal realms?
[8:38:38 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: can you explan this as i do like the answer but was not expecting it
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[8:39:20 AM] Tonyblue: Robert Sceptico: “I know what you are getting at, Logan, the classification of the kingdoms in the ‘Tree of Life’, starting with the archaeons.”

Logan Antico: “Indeed, we find an explosion of lifeforms in fauna and flora in the order of six kingdoms. The oldest lifeform is called Archaea, which are anaerobic microorganisms with a single chromosome and whose inhabitats include deep sea vents, hot spring geysers, the Dead Sea saltplains, the Antarctic ice, volcanoes and refuse tips, including radioactive waste dumps. Archaea are so 4 billion years old, dating to an era in terrestrial evolution, when oxygen was not found in any large quantities on the planet. Archaea split into two forms of prokaryotic lifeforms; cyanophyta and bacteria in the kingdom called Monera.

Prokaryotes, meaning ‘before kernels’, have no enclosed nucleus for the DNA and also lack DNA in organelles, such as mitochondria, the energy storage vessels in the cell. Through the process of cellular symbiosis, prokaryotes assembled to become eukaryotes, meaning ‘true kernels’; some prokaryotes transforming into specialised nuclei, other organelles, such as mitochondria, chloroplasts or flagella. So the unicellular kingdom of Protista became the biological archagent to reunite the RNA/DNA molecules on earth as a reflective medium for the omniversal lifeforce through the selection pressure of the force of evolution and as a consequence of the consciousness seeking biological entities.

Unicellular entities then repeated the process to yield the three macrobiological kingdoms of multicellular eukaryotes in the worlds of Plantae, Fungi and Animalia.

But where did the first archaea come from? When one studies microorganisms under the microscope, one invariably finds shapes of geometry, such as the five regular Platonic Solids of the Tetrahedron, the Cube, the Octagon, the Dodecahedron and the Icosahedron. Microorganisms are of a typical size of between ½ to 500 micrometres, with a retrovirus, such as the HIV-AIDS virus of a size of so 200 nanometres, constituting a natural limit for the complexity of the genome to allow selforganisation and genetic reproduction.

There must be enough space within the cellular organism to house the nucleotidal chains to admit RNA-transcription for genetic reproduction; a nucleotidal link being so 25 nanometres long. Some nanobacteria are virussized as the natural limit and we find here the quantum geometrical induction of the EMMR as the ‘life-giving’ source for the crystalline-biovital interface.

The chemical precursors for life are the Amino Acids, linking together in molecular chains of peptides and polypeptides to form the proteins used to construct the biological bodies. It is found, that amino acids found in nature are predominantly lefthanded or Lenantiomated or what we can term an anticlockwise spindirection or chirality. In DNA and RNA, only righthanded or dextro-enantiomated sugars give rise to the righthandedness of the helical molecular structure however. The biochemistry of life so favours, and is dependent upon, lefthanded proteins and righthanded sugars.”

Robert Sceptico: “And that symmetry violation in the ‘Code of Life’ then is mirrored in a parity violation in the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity or UfoQR, where a lefthanded fieldparticle called the RMP or RestmassPhoton neutralises the righthandedness of the Ess-Antiphoton and relating to a Higgs-Bosonic Restmass-Induction or HBRMI.”

Logan Antico: “Well, so the righthanded DNA/RNA helix is quantum geometrically linked in its scaling to the unified field, as it must be. The lefthanded organic amino acids so become ‘lifeinduced’ via the RMP through and by the ‘awareness force’ from the Newtonian extension. Righthanded, but inorganic amino acids carry a nonactivated ‘awareness centre’ in the absence of the DNA/RNA helix and the complementary coupling with the RMP is unnecessary to satisfy the unified field equations, effected in the monopolic electricity, which constitutes the ‘lifeforce’.

In terms of the geometry however, the quantum geometry of clay crystals is the first step to life. The pentagonal symmetry of the prespacetime algorithm can be represented in a Penrose tiling of both longrange translational and longrange rotational symmetry. A tiling pattern of rhombuses with 72 and 108 degrees, paired to rhombuses of 36 and 144 degrees can also be found in quasicrystals of fivefolded symmetry, such as the Shechtmanite with an empirical formula of (Mg(32)[Al,Zn](49)). We have the symmetry of the Icosahedron in 3D, which is 30% more efficient in packing 12 spheres around a central point than a hexagon structure. And we have Buckminsterfullerene, a spherical form of pure Carbon, made up of 60 Carbon atoms, arranged in 12 pentagons and 20 hexagons in the shape of a soccer ball.

So where did the archaeons come from? They were the first ‘aware ones’, becoming magnetopolically EMMR-induced to pursue the path to selfrecognition and selfawareness and beginning within their particular environments. And by what method did this EMMR-induction proceed, you might ask? It is effected by means of the C-L and XX-XY sexual chromosomatic couplings; bringing us full circle and back to the encoded story of the creation of mankind in the ‘Garden of Eden’ and its manifesto in the starseed of Abraham and Sarah.”

Robert Sceptico: “And the C-coupling defines the Capacitative element in the EMMR-monopolic circuitry and is basic to the X-chromosome and the L-coupling for the Y-chromosome is magnetoinductive.”

Logan Antico: “I knew that you would know that; you are very familiar with my work. But using the codes and their decipherments, might allow us to share our knowledge and information with the greater population, unfamiliar with our scholarly histories. So we might consider a purely XX-XX chromosomatic reproduction – no maleness exists in the manifestation of the Ribonucleic Acid or RNA-archetype; but then a mutation of one of the four X-chromosomes couples to a suppressed mutation in its conjugative to allow the L-factor to be created.

This then is the story of the ‘rib of Adam’ out of which Eve, as the first woman, was made from the body of the first man. But the first Adam was not a first man at all; Adam or Adam Kadmon was AdamEve, a HeShe; this is why there seem to be two creation events regarding the humans in the first book of Genesis.

Set a mirror between two pairs of sex-chromosomes and mutate one X into a Y in cutting off one of the X’s legs – this gives you the Y as the ‘rib’ being taken from AdamEve or Adam Kadmon, also known as ‘Purusha’ in Hindu folklore or the ‘Cosmic Man’ or the ‘Vitruvius’ of Leonardo da Vinci in other mythologies and the Renaissance in art and culture, leading to our modern sciences. In the mirror, this genetic mutation of a ManWoman into a true and real Man is however imaged in the mutation of a WomanMan into a true and real Woman as the image of that Man. So this must be XY for the Woman if the Man is YX or vice versa.

And that would be the case for a mirror within a particular spacetime. But we have the separation of spacetimes, of dimensions or in the biblical firmament, which divides the waters and heaven from earth, as in Genesis.1.1-7. This implies, that in the higher dimensional spacetime, that is the spacetime above 11D; there is no separation of Adam Kadmon = Purusha = Logos = Christ = HeShe = SheHe into Adam and Eve or YXXY into YX and XY from the premutated XXXX blueprint; the latter also representing the ‘unspeakable name of God’ in XXXX becoming YX=XY becoming (YaH)W(HeY).

And so the creation of the XX stayed as what it was, the XX as the Body of the Universe; female in its definition as the ‘Mother of All’, as ‘Barbelo’ and as every woman as her very own ‘Mother Mary’ and bride to be in herhis potential dragonomy and metamorphosis of the ‘Old Whore of Babylon’ and the ‘Old Jerusalem’ into the ‘New Jerusalem’ of the Prima Madonna Ballerina or the Goddess. And so it came to be, that the three X-chromosomes became differentiated into their gomorrahic and sodomic and babylonic characteristics, expressed in the biblical genealogies. And so it is, that all bodies, male or female, were created ‘female’ and all minds, male or female, were created ‘male’. And since the beginning of time; the malemindedness in woman has been the bane and burden for the femalebodiedness in man! Until the ‘heavenly weddings’, the dragonomies can reharmonise that particular ‘original sin’ of the particular ‘original ignorance’; that is.”

Robert Sceptico: “So when the asexual characteristics of an inorganic terrestrial evolution became ‘sexed up’, then the unichromosomatic archaeons began to literally crystallize out from their quantum geometric form, a morphology which was inert, but capable to become EMMR-induced due to its holographic nature and patterns, intrinsic to their physics and their chemistry, now turning biological.”


[8:39:43 AM] Tonyblue:

http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=3F675EE4-A97E-421B-8711-5678E3A0638A&fid=AB84B38A-1FF5-407B-9263-F02AC909DDFE
[8:39:47 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: also what is the connections to the stars...are the soul family members of the thubans connected to the Alpha Draconis and Thuban star system...what is the connection of life to the Pladies and the Lyran stars?
[8:39:51 AM] Tonyblue: This should help you JT
[8:40:19 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: all righty then...ill give this a read right now!

[8:48:18 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ok well just read through that but i guess its still not quite clicking
[8:49:32 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so the first human body form just sort of grew out of the crystal realms?
[8:51:07 AM] Tonyblue: Nono, the crystals formed from the quantum physics and then so 2,200 million years ago, the planet earth had an environment, which allowed the atmosphere to become oxygenated and the first unicellular lifeforms could use a new biochemistry
[8:52:14 AM] Tonyblue: What people term ET was first 'born' at that time, but not in the biology you may call human it was actually intelligence which was electromagnetic
[8:53:15 AM] Tonyblue: So the so called ET visists were 'radiative' or 'lightforms'
[8:53:33 AM] Tonyblue: Like your orbs but conscious and sentient
[8:53:57 AM] Tonyblue: Then a slow evolution to form the biological bodies began and this is described above
[8:55:46 AM] Tonyblue: So 40 million years ago the first primates 'emerged' from earlier mammalian stock preceded by paramammmels aka pecylosaurs and from there you go back to the reptilians, dinosaurs, birds, amphibians, fish vertebrates and so on
[8:56:50 AM] Tonyblue: Then so 20 million years ago the first apes appeared and so 10 million years ago you have apemen like the Australopithecines then Homo Habilis and onto the first human ancestors in Homo Erectus
[8:57:12 AM] Tonyblue: The timeline is about 10 Mayan grandcycles or 260,000 years ago
[8:58:10 AM] Tonyblue: All biological life USED the crystalline symmetries to 'build' the bodies though
[8:58:37 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i see
[8:58:40 AM] Tonyblue: And this is called 'DNA manipulation' by ETs by the New Age BS artists
[8:58:59 AM] Tonyblue: It was electromagnetic and not spaceships from the heavens
[8:59:31 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and the electromagnetic energies where did they come from? different star systems?
[9:01:04 AM] Tonyblue: Magnetic Inductions of the magnetic parts of the body and electric capacitative inductions as the electric parts, this then can be used to define animal instinct and intuitive science with the analytic nous of the abstract mind
[9:01:19 AM] Tonyblue: No the EMR is intrinsic to the cosmos
[9:01:54 AM] Tonyblue: But the ETs say Pleiadeans, Orions, Alpha Draconians are intelligences alright
[9:02:48 AM] Tonyblue: There are 'aliens' in all systems as the sentience is related to consciousness and that is part of space itself
[9:03:00 AM] Tonyblue: Whereever there is space there is consciousness
[9:03:52 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well this just opens a huge topic of exciting information that i would really like to understand better now... the true origins of life upon planet earth...and what about us...are we related? The soul family of avalon...i mean we have this unspoken connection to have shared part of this journey together...what is it about the dragons of thuban that make us work together like we do and where are we from?

[9:07:46 AM] Tonyblue: Yes all lifeforms are related by their dna codes. You can so go back in time say 100 million years and find your ancestor to have been a Tyrannosaurus Rex and also say a Pterodactyl
[9:08:11 AM] Tonyblue: So therefore are some people scared of their own ancestors
[9:08:32 AM] Tonyblue: 200 million years ago you were a dinosaur in bodyform
[9:09:02 AM] Tonyblue: 2,000 million years ago you were a bacterium period.
[9:09:14 AM] Tonyblue: You are related to all lifeforms
[9:10:42 AM] Tonyblue: Ergo the fascination of kids with dinosaurs and the affinities of children and adults at heart with animals, pets and flowers and also invisible EMR lifeforms called fairies, gnomes, dragons and whatever

If you go out into the garden and watch some lifeforms, then you are watching ETs
[9:14:23 AM] Tonyblue: The intelligence of the insects is coupled to bodyforms of the insectoid lifeform
[9:14:48 AM] Tonyblue: Again the NABS artists have a field day inventing all sorts of fantasies about this
[9:15:13 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: thats just amazing really...so much to think about
[9:15:44 AM] Tonyblue: So the electric part of the Insectoid resides on earth, say as a bee or an ant BUT there is a magnetic part, which is ET and is so not in the immediate space of Earth in 3D
[9:15:56 AM] Tonyblue: This so becomes a deeper agenda of CONTACT
[9:16:09 AM] Tonyblue: All ETs consider Earth their Home
[9:16:50 AM] Tonyblue: Ergo you can now analyse the ET stories in a much more 'closer to home' light
[9:17:29 AM] Tonyblue: Its a separation of consciousness as intimate constituent of space and so the cosmos itself
[9:18:02 AM] Tonyblue: To bring those aspects of consciousness back together is what the present time in the human history is all about
[9:22:32 AM] Tonyblue: The things people are put off by, like the gospels and the science and the scrolls is what carries the codes

So the mainstream tells you NOT to take these things serious see, like prophecies, astrology and the science is too hard for most
[9:24:37 AM] Tonyblue: Then the aristocrats and highflyers meet in their groups and clans and debate the Gospel of Thomas as the mastercode it is. They know and you dont hear about it on mainstream much, because they want to keep this information secret and for themselves

[9:25:18 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: Thuban Whistle Blower Radio...got a blown whistle popper from continous grinding

[9:27:50 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: again...it proves to be a complicated situation that were in upon earth...the manipulation is deep and the control mechanisams effective at keeping the humans dumbed down to the truth and unable to access their own critical thinking
[9:28:49 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i mean the New Age movement starts to get into some turth then just spins it out into more BS
[9:28:53 AM] Tonyblue: Yes, but there is a agenda beyond the agenda of even the most 'priviledged' on Earth
[9:29:12 AM] Tonyblue: Yes NABS is just another 'religion' now
[9:29:49 AM] Tonyblue: You have 3 mutually exclusive, but complimentary 'factions' now
[9:30:30 AM] Tonyblue: Skeptical mainstream science and fundamentalist and dogmatic mainstream religion and wishy washy mainstream New Age
[9:31:21 AM] Tonyblue: People like Us attempt to negate the mutual exclusiveness and synergise the compliments
[9:32:03 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes we just want the truth to be held on high...and the lies to be burried forever
[9:32:22 AM] Tonyblue: Its a hard and long journey, as there are not many people not brainwashed in their cultures and belief systems enough to think for themselves in objective analysis
[9:32:56 AM] Tonyblue: There are of course valid aspects in all the factions but to put them together in selfconsistency of argument and logic is the difficult bit
[9:33:38 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: even i still have had some old world order programming clear from my path...but im getting close to breaking a few more chains...they cant hold be back much longer
[9:34:06 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: im getting to powerful i can feel it...my energies are bursting at the seems
[9:35:11 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i just want to go on a dragon rampage and burn their lies to the ground
[9:35:42 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and so far the best way to do that seems to be by speaking the truth!
[9:36:16 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: once of course it is learned and comprehended...that was part of the reason for my questions of the orgins of life and the connection to the stars
[9:38:55 AM] Tonyblue: Look at this message on the 8 ABBA=BAAB 8 Dragon Code
[9:38:59 AM] Tonyblue: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t220p30-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#3234
[9:39:17 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ok...
[9:39:47 AM] Tonyblue: All the starsystems are holograms within your own merkabah and so you have indeed many ET bloodlines as part of your own genetic encoding

[9:40:38 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: now that is rather fascinating to think about
[9:41:54 AM] Tonyblue: Yes you are an Andromedean just as you are Arcturian, Sirian, Pleiadean and Thuban
[9:42:22 AM] Tonyblue: Thuban is 12D and is NOT the Alpha Draconis Starsystem in 3D
[9:42:57 AM] Tonyblue: But Thuban uses stargates, say to connect galaxies to each other via cellular matrices and de Broglie phase parameters

[9:43:53 AM] Tonyblue: So a female barred spiral galaxy like Andromeda connects to a male barred spiral galaxy like the Milky Way via stargates which are holofractals; say the Andromeda Constellation WITHIN the Milky Way
[9:44:49 AM] Tonyblue: The major stargate for 2012-2013 is Sirius as it is onl;y 8 lightyears away. The other prroximate stargate is Alpha Centauri so 4 lightyears away in the South
[9:45:32 AM] Tonyblue: So you have galactic and intragalactic timegates using dimensional intersections of Black Hole-White Hole Quantum physics
[9:47:05 AM] Tonyblue: Thuban is 12D and so encompasses all galaxies and constellations in 3D as 12=1+2=3 or 9D becomes a holographically enfolded quantum field superposed as a 'collapsed' spacetime onto the extended and open 3D space of scientific observation

[9:48:00 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: holy whoaly jumpin!
[9:49:14 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: that is just mind blowing...and i am struggling to comprehend this all...some very complex infromation here Tony!
[9:49:57 AM] Tonyblue: All this was already outlined on the old Project Avalon forum
[9:50:35 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i do recall reading it...but comprehending it is another aspect yet to me mastered...by me anyway
[9:51:00 AM] Tonyblue: They did not like this kind of data JT. They prefer the 'evil dracs' and the NABS
[9:51:27 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes strange that they would want lies and bs
[9:51:40 AM] Tonyblue: Part of the 'masterplan' JT
[9:51:50 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: kinda hard to sell dvd and get donations once the truth is out for free!
[9:52:40 AM] Tonyblue: Old Earth is going to be a starplanet emitting and sending 'Dark Light' as Human History of how NOT to be a galactic civilisation to the rest of the universe
[9:53:17 AM] Tonyblue: We are the Home for all ETs from 2,200 million years ago remember.t
[9:53:43 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i mean even though i am who i am and had acces to this information some of the NABS is very engaging and has been difficult to see through...especialy a few years ago before some of the ancient egyptain MAAT energies really kicked into gear
[9:53:58 AM] Tonyblue: The Dark Light means Earth will be like a radio station in the universe not just this solar system and this galaxy
[9:54:23 AM] Tonyblue: Yes MAAT and Thoth are the real thing the twinlogos
[9:55:11 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: lol how not to be a galactic planet...oh wow...yup earthlings have proved a few of those
[9:55:48 AM] Tonyblue: Now you are seeing it; WHY this planet has so much trouble graduating
[9:56:02 AM] Tonyblue: This is the higher agenda
[9:56:24 AM] Tonyblue: To serve as an example and blueprint for all intelligences
[9:56:33 AM] Tonyblue: How NOT to DO it
[9:56:45 AM] Tonyblue: So others dont have to repeat the human BS
[9:57:34 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: amazing...I remember Fritz talking about how the akashik records of earth were going to be used as a playbook for the entire universe
[9:57:42 AM] Tonyblue: Correct
[9:57:48 AM] Tonyblue: Very good
[9:58:19 AM] Tonyblue: See Thuban has no exclusive 'rights' to this info?
[9:58:27 AM] Tonyblue: Its out there but obscured
[9:58:33 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: part of the playbook was on how to disolve these type of 3d problems we have here
[9:58:39 AM] Tonyblue: Yes
[9:59:03 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and perhaps to be used on other planets in similar situations

[10:00:32 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh wow...i am just overwhelemed with positive energy right now...a very powerful state of bliss about how far we have come and the most amazing events on our doorstep...as you said..unprecedented in the universe
[10:00:51 AM] Tonyblue: Yes I shared this on MOA
[10:01:10 AM] Tonyblue: Its info which is of common interest
[10:01:57 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: those that are questioning things can read our et minds interacing here...some questions and answers...haha the very things that spilt project avalon 1 apart!
[10:02:25 AM] Tonyblue: Yes the truth is always free Mike
[10:02:53 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: only for a limited time...next week it goes back to 99.95 lol
[10:03:02 AM] Tonyblue: Right
[10:04:42 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well im going to have some soup for dinner with my friend and let some of this conversation digest with it talk to you later...thanks for some of these answers...i will go back and read them again to better understand the roots of it all
[10:05:10 AM] Tonyblue: Sure you are always welcome JT

 

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:49 am

8 ABBA = BAAB 8 - GRANDMOTHERMIND = MOTHERDAUGHTER
The Days of the Pentagrammaton Dragon De Jerusalem
IAM THAT AMI = 95 = 59 = DRAGON
59+36=95=DRAGONLAW for 36=1+2+3+...+34+35+36=666=2²+3²+5²+7²+11²+13²+17²​

[6:40:54 AM-Friday, March 30th, 2012 --( 11UCT)] Ishtara Raven: 3-29-2012
I dreamed I was at the crucifixion and witnessing it over and over, I saw Jesus on the cross but there was no blood on him. It kept going backwards and forwards from his time on the Mount of Olives to the scene of the cross and I was focused on his face the whole time. He was speaking to all of us silently, almost telepathically. I got the feeling that Tony, James, Rok, Xeia and I were there…DCD was not there that I felt. He was dressed on the cross in a white linen Robe and he was standing on it not hanging or nailed to it. I did not see the nails in his hands or feet and no blood or crown of thorns. I don’t remember all that he said, it was mostly emotional, telepathic. In the end just before I woke up he said out loud to all of us, the Kerr ring is 98 and 99. I have no idea what that means but he must have wanted me to remember because he repeated it. I woke up exactly at 12:00 pm to the dog barking…she rarely barks.

[2:52:27 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[2:52:58 PM] Tonyblue: I am NOT talking to many people anymore, just as Rok does not wish to talk to you
[2:53:16 PM] Tonyblue: The download is exactly this dream
[2:53:27 PM] Tonyblue: CARE RING is 98 and 99
[2:53:39 PM] Tonyblue: 99=18 as 1980 connecting 31 AD to 2011=31+1980 and January 19th/20th, 1998 began the 'Age of Aquarius' in the solar transit of the Sun remember? 1998=999=666+333=18+9=1+8+9=9+9=II

[2:54:08 PM] Tonyblue: And this is the 17 years anniversary of MI March 24th 1995 to March 24th 2012
[2:54:31 PM] Tonyblue: 98=9+8=17 AS 18 times March 24th and encompassing 17 Years
[2:54:56 PM] Tonyblue: I will add the details to the last post today
[2:55:12 PM] Tonyblue: Its the 3½ days Raven and I talked yesterday about
[2:55:22 PM] Tonyblue: December 8-9-10-11, 2004 to March 28-29-30-31, 2012
[2:55:50 PM] Ishtara Raven: Tony I did not sense Mary there, I don't know but all I saw was you, James, Rok and Xeia standing before him.
[2:55:52 PM] Tonyblue: The 3 periods in the menses of the Old World
[2:56:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: and myself of course
[2:56:17 PM] Tonyblue: Yes because DCD is MM there and multiplied
[2:56:30 PM] Tonyblue: You saw NONE of the 3 Marys, see?
[2:56:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: no
[2:56:40 PM] Tonyblue: See!
[2:56:49 PM] Tonyblue: This is the Sisterhood
[2:56:55 PM] Ishtara Raven: Oh wow, i had wondered
[2:57:03 PM] Tonyblue: blending with the brotherhood
[2:57:16 PM] Tonyblue: To become a Sisterbrotherhood
[2:57:42 PM] Tonyblue: See Rok is 12 years younger than Xeia and DCD is 12 years younger than I
[2:57:55 PM] Tonyblue: So this is the 12+12=24 Elders
[2:58:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: and when i woke up funny thing, I thought he and Rok could be brothers, they looked so much alike, only Jesus had these dark brown eyes
[2:58:09 PM] Tonyblue: Baby Rok and Baby DCD
[2:58:25 PM] Tonyblue: Yes same for James
[2:58:29 PM] Tonyblue: Bloodline
[2:58:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes when james was younger yes
[2:58:48 PM] Tonyblue: Rok would have been one of the 12
[2:58:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: but Rok right now, looks very similar to Jesus
[2:59:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: in my dream
[2:59:17 PM] Tonyblue: Well its malleable
[2:59:25 PM] Tonyblue: All Blueys must eat JCCJ
[2:59:33 PM] Tonyblue: Become IT the cosmic twinship
[2:59:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[3:00:13 PM] Ishtara Raven: he was so beautiful Tony
[3:00:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: and it was morning the sun was shining as if it just came up
[3:01:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: i saw the sweat on his forhead
[3:01:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: glistening
[3:01:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: he spoke to us in the mind and said the kerr thing outloud
[3:02:24 PM] Tonyblue: Yes and all this is a specific timewindow
[3:02:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: and i saw a scene going back and forth from the Mount of Olives, him speaking before the multitudes and then just us on the hill of the cross

[3:42:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: so does this fix something then?
[3:42:16 PM] Tonyblue: The 12 hours in the middle are warped as Death=Life
[3:42:28 PM] Tonyblue: As in the above
[3:42:41 PM] Tonyblue: I am emphasizing the dates so it is clearer
[3:42:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok
[3:42:54 PM] Tonyblue: The warpzone is 2670 days with bounds
[3:43:10 PM] Tonyblue: Dec8 2004 and April 1st 2012
[3:43:31 PM] Tonyblue: This then warps the crucifixion AND resurrection onto 2012
[3:43:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok yes i see
[3:44:02 PM] Tonyblue: Your dream see was confirmation of the Risen and Eternal JCCJ
[3:44:35 PM] Tonyblue: 18 death days and 18 new life days
[3:44:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes that is what i felt, he was not in pain and no wounds or blood, no tears
[3:45:17 PM] Tonyblue: Exactly Glory and Power of the Logos
[3:45:37 PM] Tonyblue: 'Oh death where is thy sting?'

1Corinthians 15:54-56 (KJV)

⁵⁴So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
⁵⁵O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
⁵⁶The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

[3:45:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: he was flesh and blood like us though, it was not some supernatural Jesus I saw, it was him in the flesh
[3:45:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[3:46:10 PM] Tonyblue: Of course
[3:46:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: and his Robe was of the time period of 31 AD, it was ivory colored and very natural
[3:47:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: why did he keep repeating the scenes, is this the back and forth of the mirror?
[3:48:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: i was actually getting virtigo in the dream, it was all night like this, intense back and forth it was like...i was and all things were being re-written
[3:49:08 PM] Tonyblue: The Mount of Olives?
[3:49:24 PM] Tonyblue: To and fro see, this is the manyness of the Eucharist
[3:49:27 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes by a huge tree on a hill side
[3:49:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: and many people
[3:49:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: to the scene of him standing on the cross, not hanging with us
[3:49:46 PM] Tonyblue: Yes multitudes about the Tree of Life
[3:50:02 PM] Tonyblue: Yes heshe has conquered the 'cross'
[3:50:12 PM] Tonyblue: Placing a circle around it
[3:50:20 PM] Ishtara Raven: omg Tony I am suddenly emotional
[3:50:33 PM] Ishtara Raven: this is what he was showing me
[3:50:41 PM] Ishtara Raven: he conqured the cross
[3:51:41 PM] Ishtara Raven: he is our family
[3:51:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: I remember
[3:51:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: I remember, you know I have been waiting for this dream, a remembrance of him, being with him
[3:54:25 PM] Ishtara Raven: I had no idea
[3:55:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: no idea i would get to see, i hoped
[3:57:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: see...sometimes wishes do come true Tonylove
[3:57:57 PM] Tonyblue: Well Our Story holds true whatever happens
[3:58:48 PM] Tonyblue: We did and lived this FOR a New World and now can only hope that We shall also see this New World now reconfigured in a manner the cosmic executive can use it, now the cosmic legislature has been made manifest
[3:59:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: it is true, and i feel more hope then ever before, i feel so much peace
[3:59:15 PM] Tonyblue: But its finished now, this Easter
[3:59:42 PM] Tonyblue: Well happiness remains elusive of course, but we did well
[4:00:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: happiness will be when the world recognises him
[4:00:23 PM] Ishtara Raven: in all things
[4:00:36 PM] Ishtara Raven: as natural as he was in my dream
[4:02:05 PM] Ishtara Raven: the love in him is in us
[4:02:33 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[4:03:06 PM] Ishtara Raven: we just all have to learn how to wield it now
[4:03:18 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p270-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#72388
[4:08:42 PM] Ishtara Raven:

amor operose novum mundos

Love Labors New Worlds


You all shine like the Stars
In all your unique parallax
And magnitudes
Colors of individual
Brilliance
Painting the backdrop
Of our collective Soul.
Through the darkness
Of the ages
You shine on
And on
Into infinity
Bending gravity to define
Your sacred spaces
Within and without
Singularities
Forming a new
Constellation.
​

4:08:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: i wrote this today
[4:09:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: dont know what to title it though lol
[4:09:26 PM] Ishtara Raven: do you like it?
[4:12:21 PM] Tonyblue: Hmm nice lol yes I add it
[4:12:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol
[4:12:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: help me think of a title
[4:12:45 PM] Tonyblue: Call it New Life in a New World or such
[4:13:14 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmmm leme think
[4:17:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: how would you say new in latin new star?
[4:21:23 PM] Tonyblue: Nova astrum
[4:21:50 PM] Tonyblue: Nova Astralis
[4:22:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmm i like it
[4:22:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: so i will call it Nova Astralis
[4:22:46 PM] Tonyblue: Stella
[4:23:36 PM] Tonyblue: My motto as an airman in the RAAF was:
[4:23:40 PM] Tonyblue: Per Ardua et Astrum
[4:23:51 PM] Tonyblue: Through Labour to the Stars
[4:24:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh i like that to
[4:25:57 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p270-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#72388
[4:27:07 PM] Ishtara Raven: amor operose nova sidera=Love labours new stars
[4:28:16 PM] Tonyblue: Well once you have made your mind up. i add the title
[4:28:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol
[4:29:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: amor operose novum mundos=Love Labors New Worlds
[4:29:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: thats it
[4:29:38 PM] Tonyblue: Spanish?
[4:29:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: latin
[4:29:48 PM] Ishtara Raven: well google translator says it is
[4:29:55 PM] Tonyblue: roughly ok
[4:30:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: well i dont know a better latin source lol
[4:30:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: amore labor scriptor novum mundos
[4:30:54 PM] Ishtara Raven: oops with the comma it translates to this
[4:31:21 PM] Ishtara Raven: err i mean apostrophie
[4:33:18 PM] Ishtara Raven: probably the first one is more correct, operose is to make or create, Labor's is works
[4:33:34 PM] Tonyblue: operosus means active
[4:34:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmm i dont know your the latin expert lol
[4:34:08 PM] Tonyblue: No I am not
[4:34:23 PM] Ishtara Raven: i like how it sounds though, amor operose novum mundos
[4:34:24 PM] Tonyblue: Latin is easy though operatione does too
[4:34:38 PM] Tonyblue: Ok stick with it then
Ishtara Raven
Xeia

Wed, 8Dec - Sat, 11Dec, 2004-----------|Sun, 25Mar - Wed, 28Mar -Thu, 29Mar - Sat, 31Mar |Sun, 1Apr - Wed, 4Apr, 2012 (+11UCT)

[0:00{Life}→2:00←{Death}14:00]→|[0:00→2:00←14:00][14:00-2:00][2:00-14:00-24:00]→|[0:00{Death}→2:00←{Resurrection}14:00]→

-3½ Days|.....|(+3½ Days) in Warptime of 12 Hours within a Warpzone of 1335+1335=2670 Days in (-3½ Days)|.....|+3½ days

Warped from:

Wed, 28Mar, 31 AD| 0:00-5:00-7:00-9:00-11:00-12:00-13:00-15:00-17:00-19:00-24:00| - | 3:00 |Sun, 1Apr, 31 AD; Jerusalem Time (+2UCT)



Gospel of Thomas (Lambdin)

(19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."

John.8.56-58:
⁵⁶Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
⁵⁷Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
⁵⁸Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

44+79+40=GRANDMOTHER MIND=MOTHER ANTIMIND=ABRAHAM MOTHER DAVID=MOTHER DAUGHTER=79+84
=CATHERINE CASSIDY=MIREILLE AUDIBERT=83+80=163=10=55=109=GRANDMOTHER VDADI
=123+22+9+9=1234+666=1234+99=1234+18=1234=5+13=123+40=1234+0=1234+o+o=ABCDE+13
=ABCD+O=FIVE TREES=42+67=109=10=59+50=50+9+50=CIRCLE I CIRCLE
=DRAGONCIRCLE=DRAGONLION=DRAGONSNAKE=DRAGONARACHNE=DRAGONPAUL

A*=Tuesday, May 16th, 1922 =16+5+14=44=8=GM+ for Easter Sunday on April 16th, 1922
B*=Friday, January 8th, 1982 =8+1+20=11=2=D+ for Easter Sunday on April 11th, 1982
C*=Friday, March 24th, 1995 =24+3+24=33=6=GM- for Easter Sunday on April 16th, 1995
D*=Wednesday, December 8th, 2004=8+12+6=44=8=D- for Easter Sunday on April 11th, 2004
E*=Thursday, May 1st, 2014 =1+5+7=22=4=M* for Easter Sunday on April 20th, 2014

A*+C*=44+33=77=CHRIST=707=79997=76667=797=104=JERUSALEM=EXPERIENCE=EXISTENCE
=LOVEJOY=BERMANSEDER=USE DRAGON=45+59=LOVE CIRCLE=54+50=LION SUN=SNAKE GABRIEL=ARACHNE DECODER
=DEVILLIVED=52=52=2(26+26)=4(13+13)=GODDOGDOGGOD=JCCJCJJCCJJCJCCJ
B*+D*=11+44=55=HEAVEN=SKY=CLOUD=SONG=SATAN=BARBELO=JUDAS
E*=22=77-55=A C-B-D

A* C*=44+33=77=104=14=8=6=8 ABC=8 ABBA=BAAB 8=123+8=6+8=14=104=77=11+44+22=B*+D*+E*

1982=10+10=1010_bin=10_dec 10_dec

0=(Sun,Mar25-Wed,Mar28-Fri,Mar30-Sun,Apr1)31 +1982 = (Easter&Equinox(Julian) #0 anno 31 AD)
1982=(Sun,Mar24-Wed,Mar27-Fri,Mar29-Sun,Mar31)2013 = (Easter&Equinox(Julian) #1982 anno 2013)

1=(Fri,Mar24-Mon,Mar27-Wed,Mar29-Fri,Mar31)1995 +1 = Equinox(Julian) 1995 (-23)
2=(Sun,Mar24-Wed,Mar27-Fri,Mar29-Sun,Mar31)1996 +16 = Equinox(Julian) 1996 (-14)
...
18=(Sat,Mar24-Tue,Mar27-Thu,Mar29-Sat,Mar31)2012 +1 = Equinox(Julian) 2012 (-15)
19=(Sun,Mar24-Wed,Mar27-Fri,Mar29-Sun,Mar31)2013 = Equinox(Julian) 2013 (-7)

{*=(Mon,Mar24-Thu,Mar27-Sat,Mar29-Mon,Mar31)2014 = Equinox(Julian) 2014 (-27)}

More detail: Post #255 at http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p240-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#70384
Post#226 at http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p225-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#67084
Posts#117 and #118 at http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t464p105-new-thuban-qa-from-isaiah-euphrates#56191
and/or: Post #11 at http://www.birthofgaia.com/t220-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#3207



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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

malletzky on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:33 am


Dear Tony

just wanted to say that as allways, I'm enjoying your input and I will definitelly miss you and your energy around here after the 01th of April.

Much respect to you dear brother
Mall...

 

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:25 am

malletzky wrote:​

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Dear Tony​

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just wanted to say that as allways, I'm enjoying your input and I will definitelly miss you and your energy around here after the 01th of April.​

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Much respect to you dear brother​

Mall...​

Merci Malletzky; I have appreciated your input and communions over the last 2 years. I wish you well and we shall meet in a New World!


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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:32 am

EARTHHEART=104=52+52=26x4=13x8=77=CHRIST


I am he that adores you, your graceful walk, your tender gentle nudge.
Come and let me cherish, honour you; my love for you shall never budge.
Red cherries I would dangle from your ears, before nibbling them away.
Golden rings of my love I'd place on your fingers, all of them to try.

A poet from the sky I am and a lover from the kingdom's highest trade.
Romeo is my name and universes I know how to make, to set them alight.
Alone I am in all my endeavours, without you, all I made, so in vain.
To you I wish to give it all, sweet love; my life and soul, just thine.

This is my courtship, my declaration of the creator's love for only you.
Do not believe, but feel and know your loveheart's answer to be so true.
Be my baby and let me be your sweetheart, your loving and eternal man.
To love one another as oneself is the highest calling for Diana and Pan.

Oh you petite dancer in the moon's shadow and with an art so mirthing.
Can to feel the warm rays from me, my burning sun, hot and piercing?
It's loving commotion is wiggling upon your form, attempting to entice;
a responsive passion from you, the creation's desire, dreams to realise.

Mighty mountains roar your name and treetops whisper "She", such a delight.
Your colourful star is twinkling within a new dawn, shining ever so bright.
Tiny brooks become rivers, twisting streams, searching for the deepblue sea.
Angel's trumpets sound awake and majestic eagles soar above to set you free.

I love you with all the might and tenderness my soul and heart can give.
From deep inside I long for you, your love, come let us both begin to live.
A scientist, prophet and troubadour I am, as magician I know many things.
All is yours, my imagination of a love between us, with my wedding rings.

Mar(r)y me, sweet Juliet! My Love is You!


Romeo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjbQY8_vk1M&feature=related

There you are beloved
In awareness of vast creativity, the sense of you is here and now
The vast silence of spacial illuminosity always on the move
The desire to Touch, Smell and Breath into existence the fiery spark of Divine expansion


In wonderment of mystique magic in a simple thought
The spiraling vortexes that hurdle forward into the vast infinity
of miraculous divine
Allowing through imagination the freedom to co-create


All are set free to beautifully express
You DiD remember when Eternity and I journeyed alone
Away from the God and Goddess who danced beside us
Calling us Closer


Allowing Us the freedom to wander in the Loverlyness
of the Universe in Love
We, She and he


The heartbeat of each distantly apart and yet forever connected
In Love's entwinement of the miraculous and melodious tune
of the Love unfolding with true expression.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAnHskHdiA


Juliet
ROMEO=66=52+14=52+7+7=52+10+4=ALPHA+MAN=NOAH+OM=BRIDE+LAMB=WE+ALPHA=IS+NOAH=52+77
JULIET=77=52+25=JULI+ET {ME=WE=E3=B=8}

12=48=44+4=A ROCK=ROACKA=JAMES=A JOHN=47+1
48=EVIL=VEIL=LIVE=SEX=HACIFICAH=24+24=12x4=ABRAHAM+BB=ELDER+88
12=39=57=XEIA=MARY=BIRTH=MOON=GEMINI=ROSE=EROS
12=75=MARRY=MARY+18=BIRTH+666=MOON+99=ONSHAR=ANDROMEDA=LUCIFERA
=A LUCIFER=51+24=DEMON 24=MICHAEL 24=75=YYY=NNN+33=111NNN111
NEW NAME=NEW AMEN=NEW MEAN=THE MARIA=THE I AM RA=NEW MAGIC

=74+1=SHARE 24=12 SHARE 12=66 SHARE 66=ABBABAAB SHARE BAABABBA


ROMEOJULIET=66+77=33+33+44+33=66+11+66=143=8=44=2222=11111111=143=8
8=44=ELDER=FREEDOM CHRIST=THE AMEN 77=THE CHRIST NAME=THE 77 MAGIC=66+47+30
=30+74+9+30=30+83+30=83+60=WISDOM WORD=GNOSIS RAVEN=RAVENINALADOVE=143=8

143=30OF DREAM OF30=PEACE OF+CORE+OF DEBRA=51+41+51=MICHAEL KING FATES=8=INFINITY+INALA=106+37
BREAD+ENERGY+ADD+JT=MICHAEL+DREAM+FATES=DEMON+FATES+KING=MICHAEL+OMEGA OF JT
=BIBLE+TIME+THUBAN=BARED+MALACHI+ANUBIS=RABED+ROCK+ABRAXAS=BABY+JOHN+WOMAN
=ARK+ISAIAH+FAMILY=40+62+41=DAVID+QUEEN+KING=MIND+MAGDALENE+DREAM=103+40=30+73+40

73=JOSEPH=ONE TEN=34+39=OLD BC + AD NEW=21+5+5+42=GOD+ROCK=TIME+DOG=WALL I AM
=CHAPEL HEBEH=BEE CHAPEL 88=28+45=WE USE=IN CIRCLE=IN LION=IN SNAKE=LAWIWAL

143=DAD+WORD+JESUS=JESUS+ADD+WORD=WORD+WISDOM=60+83=9+60+74=GOSPEL+ADD+WORD
=INALA+DOVE+RAVEN=37+46+60=57+46+40=BIRTH+BODY+MIND=101+42=1AB0BA1=1BA0AB1
=ENERGY+XAEI+BREAD=BEAUTY+XAIE+BABY=CROSS+XIAE+ARK=MESSIAH+XIEA+BIBLE
=SONGS+XEAI+DEBRA=CLOUDS+XEIA+EAGLE=8=INFINITY=106=RAVENDOVE=WORDBODY=52=7=25


JULI+ENNE=52+38=EARTHBRIDE=ALPHAHEART=SPIRIT-1=TIMESPACE-1=MIRROR-1=SPACETIME-1
=S.WE.ET.S-1=TAYLOR-1=WORD+30
JULI+SSA=52+39=JULI+XEIA=JULI+SANDA=JULI+INALA+11=52+38+1=HEART1BRIDE=ALPHA1EARTH
JULI+ET=52+25=52+52=104=JERUSALEM=LOVEJOY=EXPERIENCE=EXISTENCE
104=EARTHHEART=BABYJESUS=DEBRATONY=LOVECIRCLE=DOGGGOD+GODDOG=MMx4=ZZx2=JCCJ+CJJC+JCCJ+CJJC



52x3+38x2+25+1=156+76+26=258=15=6=1+2+3=ABC
EARTH+BRIDE+HEARTGOD+NOAH+EARTH
SWORD OF FATHER OF WORDS = MOTHER OF FATHER OF MOTHER

An OLD Trinity of ONE Reconfigured in a NEW Cosmic Twinship of TWO in ONE.

FATHER+SON+DAUGHTER+MOTHER=58+48+84+79=269=137+132=FATHERMOTHER+DAUGHTERSON
269=STAR+SEX+I AM NEW RA+SWORD=FATHER OF FATHER + MOTHER OF LIFE
269=TWO+EVIL+NEW ADAM I AM+WORDS=FATHER OF MOTHER + FATHER OF CELL
269=FATHER+VEIL+LAWLIVE+MOTHER=MOTHER OF FATHER + EVE OF FATHER
269=69+45+59+96=69+104+96=69+DRAGONUSE+96=96+9+95+69=96+IAMTHATIAMI+69=17=8


TWO WORDS IN ONE GAIA BIRTH
=269=251+18=97+50+104+18=8+666=8+99=8+9=1+7=44=2222=11111111=216+53=270-1
=LOVE+SUN+DEBORAH+DECODER+GABRIEL=5x54-1=LOVEx5+i²
=LOVEEVOL+LOVE+LOVEEVOL+i²=EVOLVE+LOVE+EVOLVE + LOL iOi

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A Case For Christ's Resurrection

Raven on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:20 am

In Lakech, Raven ​

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

Raven on Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:04 am

The Extended Timeline of the World Logos in 3171=235+1+2935 Days of 453 Weeks
53+35=88=DAYNIGHT=INFINITY=LoFaB=Lake of Fire and Brimstone=106




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Scripture Code References:

TIME=390=360+30=1 Year (of 12 months of 30 days each) + 1 Month
TIME+TIMES+HALF A TIME=3½x390=1365=1335+30
1 YEAR/1 DAY=1 DAY/1 HOUR for 360/1=15x24/1 for 1 HOUR=360/24=15 Days
½ HOUR=12,000/1600=15/2=Inside City/Outside City=7½ Days
Silence about ½ Hour =150/360=5/12=10 hours as about ½ Day in 24x150=10x360
3½ TIMES + 1 HOUR =1365+15=1380=1260+120=1260+75+35+10
10,000x10,000=100 Million and 12x12,000=144,000 and 7x1000=7000

from Revelation.8.1 with Revelation.14.20 & 21.16-17 with Revelation.7.4 & 14.1-3 with Daniel.7.10 & Revelation.9.16

30=15+15=2x(7+1+7)=14+2+14=40-10=70-40
391=370+21
21=10+1+10 Days of Gabriel in 10 Prison Days mirrored as a doubling of sorrows of Babylon as 3 full weeks
by Revelation.2.10 & 18.6 with Daniel.10.2-3,13
430=390+40=360+70=35+360+35=434-4=62x7-3½-½
500=250+250=430+40+30=390+40+40+30=490+10

from Exodus.12.40; Numbers.14.33-34; Deuteronomy.34.8; Ezekiel.4.4-6,9; Revelation.9.15;17.12;18.6 & Revelation.2.10 & Daniel.9.24-27

56=35+21 from Daniel.10.2-3,13
2 Years from Genesis.11.10
120=490-370 from Genesis.6.3 for 'The Age of Man' in 120+15=135 Day-Years from Calendar Calibration

7=3½+3½=3+1+3=WOC=Week Of Confusion/Astonishment
377=370+7 from Genesis.7.4,10-12,20,24; 8.3-14; 9.5 & Ezekiel.3.15-16
391(406)=370+21(+15)=360+30+1+(15)=1 Year + 1 Month + 1 Day + 1 Hour

from Revelation.9.13-15; 16.12

1260=Time+Times+½Time=3½x360=7x180 from Daniel.12.7 & Revelation.11.2-3; 12.6,14; 13.5
1290+45=1335=2670-1380=2670-3½xTIME-1 HOUR from Daniel.12.11-12
1600=2935-1335 from Revelation.14.6-20 & Revelation.16
Trisection: Revelation.16.18-20 & Revelation.8.7-12; 9.15
2300 from Daniel.8.14
2555=2300+255=1290+5+1260=1260+35+1260=7x360+35=2555=7x365=7 Solar Years - 1 Day
2671=1291-1380=1291-3½xTIME-1 HOUR

490=434+49+7=370+120=(40+110+74+40+7+7+36+56)+120=(264+106)+120
2670=2300+370=1335+1335=(490+490)+710+(490+490)=250+730+710+730+250=(250+2SY+2LY+2SY+250)

2670=([250-15] + 2 Solar Years + 2 Lunar Years + 2 Solar Years + [250+15])

2670=1335+1335=(1335+265)+490+360+220=1600+150+490+430=35+1600+150+490+360+35
2670+1+500=3171=|-235|2670|1+265|=|-200-35|2300+370|1+56+14+40+74+36+45|=|-235|2180+490||1+10+35+10+210|
=1260+150+1260=(1335-75)+150+(1335-75)=(1290+40+35)-30-30+(35+40+1290)
=7x180+150+7x180={3½ Times 360}+{10x15}+{3½ Times 360}={3½ Days}+{10 Hours}+{3½ Days} in 150/360=15/36=5/12 for (5x24/12)=120/12=10 Hours
=3 WOES={150}+{1st Halfweek}+{2nd Halfweek}={1335-75}

from Revelation.8.12-13;9.11-13;11.13-15;12.11-13

1st Woe: Warp Time of 2670 days crystallizes 150=2670-1260-1260=2670-7 TIMES as the 5 Months of Scorpions as 150 Days Noah's Flood in the HalfWay Warptime of 1335=1290+45=1260+75=1260+40+35=1260+30+35={3½ TIME}+75 Days
The 150 days or 5 months so become a THIRD of 3 warptime periods: 1260+150+1260=2570=2300+370=1335+1335 and forms a dynamic daycount within tis warpzone and particulary as the Reset of the 8 weeks in 45+10+1=56 days.

The Reset of April 1st as the 1290th day and the reset of April 2nd as the 1291st day from August 4th, 2008 as the 1335th day, so mirrors 45+10=1=56 days to the 1336th day as the Ascension Day of May 17th, 2012 and Pentecost of May 27th, 2012 in the addition of 10 Prison days.

1st Woe: 150 days as 5 months become the First THIRD PART or 'Witnessing Time' from December 9th, 2004 to March 28th, 2012 in 2667 days

2nd Woe: 2 HalfWeeks as the Second THIRD PART from March 29 - April 1st - April 4th, 2012 as 3½+x3½=7 Days for 1260 days + 42 months=1260+42x30=(3½ Times)+(3½ Times) in a 'compressed' holofractal Week or a WOC and as WOE#2 or WOE#3.
The HalfWarp count for the 3½ Times is 1260=1335-75 days from August 4th, 2008 with the TENTH of the City being 7.5 Days as 75/10=12,000/1,600=30/4=15/2=7½=150/20. The 7000 'slain men' are the 7 fractalised count for a Woe.

3rd Woe: 2 HalfWeeks as the Third THIRD PART from April 5th - April 8th - April 11th, 2012 and as specified for the 2nd Woe.

14Jun 2012 =2670+75=2595+150
31Mar 2012 =2555+115=2670
25Feb 2012 =2555+80=2635
21Jan 2012 =2555+45=2300
16Jan 2012 =2555+40=2595
06Jan 2012 =2555+30=2585
07Dec 2011 =2555+0=2670-75-40
02Nov 2011 =2520=1260+1260=2670-150


Abortion Mirror=Day#-18=Sat, Nov20, 2004 =Baby#-17 in 71=(17+1+17)+(17+1+17) Days
Abortion Mirror(+1)=Day#-17=Sun, Nov21, 2004 = Baby#-18 in 71=(17+1+17)+1+(17+1+17) Days
Lower Warp Mirror=Day#00=Wed, Dec08, 2004 =Baby#00
AntiAbortion Mirror=Day#18=Sun, Dec26, 2004 = Baby#17 = ACEH Tsunami Midpoint in 36 Days

Midpoint of AntiAbortion Image=Day#2653=Wed, Mar14, 2012 =Baby#-18 in 17+1+17 Days
LOGOS 69th Week Mirror=Day#2663=Sat, Mar24, 2012
Upper Warp Mirror=Day#2671=Sun, Apr01, 2012
Prison 10Day Mirror=Day#2681=Wed, Apr11, 2012=2671+10=2663+18 = ACEH Tsunami Image
Descension Mirror=Day#2682=Thu, Apr12, 2012=2663+18+1
Beltane Mirror=Day#2699=Sun, Apr29, 2012=2663+18+18

Midpoint of Abortion Image=Day#2689=Thu, Apr19, 2012 =Baby#+18* in 17+1+17 Days
2663+17+1+1+17=2663+7+11+1+17=2699=2689+10 from Mar24-Mar31- Apr11-Apr12-Apr29
2653+35=2681+7=2688 for 35 days in 53=HAROBED=3+5=8=5+3=DEBORAH for 35+53=88

Sun, Feb26--Wed, Mar14--Sat, Mar31-|Sun, Apr01|-Mon, Apr02--Thu, Apr19--Sun, May06
2636...(+17).....2653...(+17)...2670...(+1)...2671...(+1)...2672...(+17)...2689...(+17)...2706

Sun, Feb19--Wed, Mar07--Sat, Mar24-|Sun, Mar25|-Mon, Mar26--Thu, Apr12--Sun, Apr29
2636...(+17).....2653...(+17)...2670...(+1)...2671...(+1)...2672...(+17)...2689...(+17)...2706

Wed, Nov03--Sat, Nov20--Thu, Dec07-|Wed, Dec08|-Thu, Dec09--Sun, Dec26--Wed, Jan12
-35....(+17).......-18....(+17)....-1....(+1).....00.....(+1).....1....(+17).....18....(+17).....35



DEBORAH|4+5+2+15+18+1+8=53=8+1+18+15+2+5+4|HAROBED
(4-7-12-14-29)Nov 2004-(17-18-26)Dec 2004 = (15-22-23)Mar 2012-(10-25-27)Apr 2012-(2-6)May 2012
53+35=88=44+44=DAYNIGHT
53+53=INFINITY=RAVENDOVE=WORDBODY=DEBORAH HAROBED
35+18=53=35+666=35+99=45+54+35=USE LOVE 35=53 USE LOVE
35+35=70=GALAXY
88=44+44=ELDER ABRAHAM=22+22+22+22=33+22+33
30+58=DAY STAR=EAGLE NIGHT
58+30=STAR BABY=FATHER ARK=STAR PEACE=FATHER BREAD



00+18=18=Death Mirror
1335+18=1353=Lower Midpoint Mirror
1336+17=1353=Upper Midpoint Mirror
2670+18=2688=Winepress Mirror as 1335+1600=2935=Birth Mirror
2671+17=2688=Winepress Mirror as 1335+1600=2935=Birth Mirror
Winepress Mirror TwinWeek of Confusion/Astonishment:
#2685(+3)#2688(+4)#2692(+3)#2695(+4)#2699 as 15 days from SunApr15 to WedApr18 to SunApr22 to WedApr25 to SunApr29

Trisections: {Revelation.8 & Revelation.16.19}
{Linear Past to -1}+{Warpzone}+{2671 to linear Future}
{00-2670}+{2671-2688-2706}+{2707-2935} and {1-2667}+{2668-2671-2674}+{2675-2678-2681}

Quadrosection: {Revelation.6.8}
{Linear Past to -1}+{Warpzone+Cosmic Pregnancy}+{2936 to linear Future}



M 6.5, Arteaga, Mexico; Wednesday, April 11, 2012 at 22:55:10 UTC

M 8.2, off the west coast of northern Sumatra; Wednesday, April 11, 2012 at 10:43:09 UTC
M 8.6, off the west coast of northern Sumatra; Wednesday, April 11, 2012 at 08:38:37 UTC
M 9.2, Aceh, off the west coast of northern Sumatra Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 00:58:53 UTC
M 9.0, east of the Oshika Peninsula of Tōhoku and Sendai, Japan, March 11, 2011 at 05:46 UTC

8.2+8.6+9.2+9.0=35=53=8=17=26=35=44=53=62=71=80

M 6.2, Papua, Indonesia Tuesday, March 20, 2012 at 17:56:19 UTC
M 7.5, Oaxaca, Mexico Tuesday, March 20, 2012 at 18:02:48 UTC

March Equinox 2012 at 23:21 UCT in Sendai Tsunami at 05:46 UCT; Timedelta =5:46-0:39=5:07 =307 minutes at 193 minutes or 3:13 at 20:47 UCT on Tuesday, Mar20, 2012 in the Activation of the Philadelphia Dragon Phoenix Flyer


Thu, May03, 2012 --- Wed, May02, 2012
Fri, May04, 2012 --- Tue, May01, 2012
Sat, May05, 2012 --- Mon, Apr30, 2012

Begin Week#64=Sun, May06, 2012 --- Sun, Apr29, 2012=End Week#62/73
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Begin Week#65=Sun, May13, 2012 --- Sun, Apr22, 2012=End Week#61/72
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Begin Week#66=Sun, May20, 2012 --- Sun, Apr15, 2012=End Week#60/71
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Begin Week#67/1=Sun, May27, 2012&Sun, Feb20, 2011 --- Sun, Apr08, 2012=End Week#59=Week#70
Mon, May28, 2012&Mon, Feb21, 2011 --- Sat, Apr07, 2012
Tue, May29, 2012&Tue, Feb22, 2011 --- Fri, Apr06, 2012
Wed, May30, 2012&Wed, Feb23, 2011 --- Thu, Apr05, 2012
Thu, May31, 2012&Thu, Feb24, 2011 --- Wed, Apr04, 2012
Fri, Jun01, 2012&Fri, Feb25, 2011 --- Tue, Apr03, 2012
Sat, Jun02, 2012&Sat, Feb26, 2011 --- Mon, Apr02, 2012=Begin Week#59=Week#70

Begin Week#68/2=Sun, Jun03, 2012&Sun, Feb27, 2011 --- Sun, Apr01, 2012 =End Week#58=Week#69
Mon, Jun04, 2012&Mon, Feb28, 2011 --- Sat, Mar31, 2012
Tue, Jun05, 2012&Tue, Mar01, 2011 --- Fri, Mar30, 2012
Wed, Jun06, 2012&Wed, Mar02, 2011 --- Thu, Mar29, 2012
Thu, Jun07, 2012&Thu, Mar03, 2011 --- Wed, Mar28, 2012
Fri, Jun08, 2012&Fri, Mar04, 2011 --- Tue, Mar27, 2012
Sat, Jun09, 2012&Sat, Mar05, 2011 --- Mon, Mar26, 2012

Begin Week#69/3=Sun, Jun10, 2012&Sun, Mar06, 2011 --- Sun, Mar25, 2012=End Week#57=Week#68
Mon, Jun11, 2012&Mon, Mar07, 2011 --- Sat, Mar24, 2012
Tue, Jun12, 2012&Tue, Mar08, 2011 --- Fri, Mar23, 2012
Wed, Jun13, 2012&Wed, Mar09, 2011 --- Thu, Mar22, 2012
Thu, Jun14, 2012&Thu, Mar10, 2011 --- Wed, Mar21, 2012
Fri, Jun15, 2012&Fri, Mar11, 2011 --- Tue, Mar20, 2012 =March Equinox 2012 at 23:21 UCT in Sendai Tsunami at 05:46 UCT;
Sat, Jun16, 2012&Sat, Mar12, 2011 --- Mon, Mar19, 2012

Begin Week#70/4=Sun, Jun17, 2012&Sun, Mar13, 2011 --- Sun, Mar18, 2012 =End Week#56=Week#67
Mon, Jun18, 2012&Mon, Mar14, 2011, 2011 --- Sat, Mar17, 2012 = Saint Patrick de Eire
Tue, Jun19, 2012&Tue, Mar15, 2011 --- Fri, Mar16, 2012 = Ides of March 2011 = Calendrical Convergence Below to Above
Wed, Jun20, 2012Wed, Mar16, 2011 --- Thu, Mar15, 2012 = Ides of March 2012 = Calendrical Convergence Above to Below
Thu, Jun21, 2012&Thu, Mar17, 2011 --- Wed, Mar14, 2012
Fri, Jun22, 2012&Fri, Mar18, 2011 --- Tue, Mar13, 2012
Sat, Jun23, 2012&Sat, Mar19, 2011 --- Mon, Mar12, 2012

Begin Week#71/5=Sun, Jun24, 2012&Sun, Mar20, 2011 --- Sun, Mar11, 2012=End Week#55=Week#66=March Equinox 2011 at 17:32 UCT
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Begin Week#72/6=Sun, Jul01, 2012&Sun, Mar27, 2011 --- Sun, Mar04, 2012=End Week#54=Week#65
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Begin Week#73/7=Sun, Jul08, 2012&Sun, Apr03, 2011 --- Sun, Feb26, 2012=End Week#53=Week#64
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Begin Week#74/8=Sun, Jul15, 2012&Sun, Apr10, 2011 --- Sun, Feb19, 2012=End Week#52=Week#63
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Begin Week#75/9=Sun, Jul22, 2012&Sun, Apr17, 2011 --- Sun, Feb12, 2012=End Week#51=Week#62
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Begin Week#76/10=Sun, Jul29, 2012&Sun, Apr24, 2011 --- Sun, Feb05, 2012=End Week#50=Week#61
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Begin Week#77/11=Sun, Aug05, 2012&Sun, May01, 2011 --- Sun, Jan29, 2012=End Week#49=Week#60
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Begin Week#78/12=Sun, Aug12, 2012&Sun, May08, 2011 --- Sun, Jan22, 2012=End Week#48=Week#59
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Begin Week#79/13=Sun, Aug19, 2012&Sun, May15, 2011 --- Sun, Jan15, 2012=End Week#47
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Begin Week#96/30=Sun, Dec16, 2012&Sun, Sep11, 2011 --- Sun, Sep18, 2011=Sun, Dec23, 2012=End Week#30/96
Mon, Dec17, 2012&Mon, Sep12, 2011 --- Sat, Sep17, 2011&Sat, Dec22, 2012=xxxxxx
Tue, Dec18, 2012&Tue, Sep13, 2011 --- Fri, Sep16, 2011&Fri, Dec21, 2012=xxxxxx
Wed, Dec19, 2012&Wed, Sep14, 2011 --- Thu, Sep15, 2011&Thu, Dec20, 2012=xxxxxx


Triple-Logos-Mirror of Gospel of Thomas (Lambdin):
(30) Jesus said, "Where there are three gods, they are gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him."

(50) Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where did you come from?', say to them, 'We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it you?', say, 'We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' If they ask you, 'What is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, 'It is movement and repose.'"

(83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."

(84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Indian_Ocean_earthquake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Guerrero%E2%80%93Oaxaca_earthquake
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/twin-earthquakes-rattle-the-globe-on-spring-equinox/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes_in_2012

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Day#3431=Thu, May01, 2014 =StarHuman#496*=3295+136=3300+131 = Beltane-Walpurgis Nacht 2014
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Day#3336=Fri, Jan31, 2014 =StarHuman#406*=3300+36 = Euphrates 391+15=406 HOUR Calibration
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Day#3321=Thu, Jan16, 2014 =StarHuman#391*=3300+21 = Euphrates 4 Corner YDMH Calibration
Day#3320=Wed, Jan15, 2014 =StarHuman#390*=3300+20 = Ezekiel Israel TIME Calibration
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Day#3316=Mon, Jan06, 2014 =StarHuman#381*=3300+16 = Epiphany/Theophany of the Nativity in 3 Magi 2014 in 12+1=13 days of Christmas 2013
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Day#3311=Wed, Jan01, 2014 =StarHuman#376*=3300+11 = New Year 2014
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Day#3304=Wed, Dec25, 2013 =StarHuman#369*=2935+369=3300+4 = Christmas 2013
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Day#3300=Sat, Dec21, 2013 =StarHuman#365*=2935+365=3300+0 = December Solstice 2013
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Day#3295=Mon, Dec16, 2013 =StarHuman#360*=2935+360 = Calibration of Cosmic Calendars in the Plato Cycle-Degree Year
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Day#2951=Mon, Jan06, 2013 = StarHuman#16*=2935+16 = 3 Kings of Bethlehem's Christmas Nativity 2012
Day#2950=Sun, Jan05, 2013 = StarHuman#15*=2935+15
Day#2949=Sat, Jan04, 2013 = StarHuman#14*=2935+14
Day#2948=Fri, Jan03, 2013 = StarHuman#13*=2935+13
Day#2947=Thu, Jan02, 2013 = StarHuman#12*=2935+12
Day#2946=Tue, Jan01, 2013 = StarHuman#11*=2935+11 = New Year 2013
Day#2945=Mon, Dec31, 2012 = StarHuman#10*=2935+10
Day#2944=Sun, Dec30, 2012 = StarHuman#9*=2935+9
Day#2943=Sat, Dec29, 2012 = StarHuman#8*=2935+8
Day#2942=Fri, Dec28, 2012 = StarHuman#7*=2935+7
Day#2941=Thu, Dec27, 2012 = StarHuman#6*=2935+6
Day#2940=Wed, Dec26, 2012 = StarHuman#5*=2935+5
Day#2939=Tue, Dec25, 2012 = StarHuman#4*=2935+4 = Christmas 2012
Day#2938=Mon, Dec24, 2012 = StarHuman#3*=2935+3
Day#2937=Sun, Dec23, 2012 = StarHuman#2*=2935+2
Day#2936=Sat, Dec22, 2012 = StarHuman#1*=2935+1
Day#2935=Fri, Dec21, 2012 =Baby#+264*=2671+264=1335+1600 = BIRTH MIRROR
Day#2934=Thu, Dec20, 2012 = Baby#+263*=2671+263
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Day#2912=Wed, Nov28, 2012 =Baby#+241*=2671+241
=Full Moon Lunar Eclipse at 14:46 UCT at 6°47' Gemini-Sagittarius
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Day#2897=Tue, Nov13, 2012 =Baby#+226*=2671+226
=New Moon Solar Eclipse at 22:08 UCT at 2°57' Scorpio-Scorpio
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Day#2891=Wed, Nov07, 2012 =Baby#+220*=2671+220
Day#2890=Tue, Nov06, 2012 =Baby#+219*=2671+219=2670+220= (110+110=220)(+)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2855=Tue, Oct02, 2012 =Baby#+184*=2671+184
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Day#2820=Tue, Aug28, 2012 =Baby#+149*=2671+149=2670+150 =(150-0=150)(+)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2785=Tue, Jul24, 2012 =Baby#+114*=2671+114=2670+115 =(150-35=115)(+)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2781=Fri, Jul20, 2012 =Baby#+110*=2671+110
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Day#2755=Sun, Jun24, 2012 =Baby#84*=2671+84=2670+85 =(150-65=85)(+)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2745=Thu, Jun14, 2012 =Baby#74*=2671+74=2670+75 =(150-75=75)(+)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2741=Sun, Jun10, 2012 =Baby#+70*=2671+70
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Day#2735=Mon, Jun04, 2012 =Baby#+64*=2671+64
=Full Moon Lunar Eclipse 11:12 UCT at 14°14' Sagittarius-Gemini
Day#2734=Sun, Jun03, 2012 =Baby#+63*=2671+63
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Day#2727=Reset#1347=Sun, May27, 2012 =Baby#+56*=2671+56=PrisonDay#10
= Pentecost Sunday 2012
Day#2726=Reset#1345=Sat, May26, 2012 =Baby#+55*=PrisonDay#9
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Day#2720=Reset#1339=Sun, May20, 2012 =Baby#+49*=PrisonDay#3
=New Moon Solar Eclipse at 23:47 UCT at 0°21' Gemini-Gemini
Day#2719=Reset#1338=Sat, May19, 2012 =Baby#+48*=PrisonDay#2
Day#2718=Reset#1337=Fri, May18, 2012 =Baby#+47*=PrisonDay#1
Day#2717=Reset#1336=Thu, May17, 2012 =Baby#+46*=PrisonMirrorDay#0
= Ascension Mirror Thursday 2012 in 10+1+10=21 Prison Days of Gabriel
Day#2716=Reset#1335=Wed, May16, 2012 =Baby#+45*=Image PrisonDay#1
Day#2715=Reset#1334=Tue, May15, 2012 =Baby#+44*=Image PrisonDay#2
Day#2714=Reset#1333=Mon, May14, 2012 =Baby#+43*=Image PrisonDay#3
Day#2713=Reset#1332=Sun, May13, 2012 =Baby#+42*=Image PrisonDay#4
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Day#2707=Reset#1326=Mon, May07, 2012 =Baby#+36*=2671+30+6=Image PrisonDay#10=Gnosis#107=0*
Day#2706=Reset#1325=Sun, May06, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+35*=HA3*=00
=DEBORAH HAROBED=INFINITY=53+53=35+69696+35=35+36+35=106=Gnosis#106
=Desolation#40=Angel of the Harvest of the Air = Upper Gabriel{-21=-35+14}Mirror
=Buddha-Christ Full SuperMoon Wesak-Beltane 03:35 UCT at 16°01' Scorpio-Taurus
Day#2705=Reset#1324=Sat, May05, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+34*=FEU=Gnosis#105
=Desolation#39=Angel of the Fire of Euphrates
Day#2704=Reset#1323=Fri, May04, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+33*=RB=Gnosis#104
=Desolation#38=Angel of the Reaping of the Beast
Day#2703=Reset#1322=Thu, May03, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+32*=VS=Gnosis#103
=Desolation#37=Angel of the Voices of the Sun
Day#2702=Reset#1321=Wed, May02, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+31*=IW=Gnosis#102
=Desolation#36=Angel of the Images of the Water
Day#2701=Reset#1320=Tue, May01, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+30*=BSM=Gnosis#101
=Desolation#35=Angel of Babylon of the SeaMirror = MayDay of Beltane 2012
Day#2700=Reset#1319=Mon, Apr30, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+29*=GE=Gnosis#100
=Desolation#34=Angel of the Gospel of the Earth = Walpurgis Nacht 2012
Day#2699=Reset#1318=Sun, Apr29, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+28*=CMSA*=Gnosis#99
=Desolation#33=CLOUDED MIRROR of the SICKLE of the AIR = Midpoint Beltane-Walpurgis Nacht Mirror

Day#2698=Reset#1317=Sat, Apr28, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+27*=GEU3=Gnosis#98
=Desolation#32=Angel of the Gospel of Euphrates = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#7
= Completion of the Harvest of the Old Earth in the Air of Euphrates in the Winepress Outside the New Temple Earth
Day#2697=Reset#1316=Fri, Apr27, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+26*=BB3=Gnosis#97
=Desolation#31=Angel of Babylon of the Beast = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#6
= Darkness of the Beast in the Desolations of Babylon
Day#2696=Reset#1315=Thu, Apr26, 2012=Baby(lon)#+25*=IS3=Gnosis#96
=Desolation#30=Angel of the Images of the Sun = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#5
= Burning of the Fake Images in the Fires of the Logos Sun
Day#2695=Reset#1314=Wed, Apr25, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+24*=VW3=Gnosis#95
=Desolation#29=Angel of the Voices of the Water = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#4
= Eucharist of Blood in the Harvest of Babylon
Day#2694=Reset#1313=Tue, Apr24, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+23*=RSM3=Gnosis#94
=Desolation#28=Angel of the Reaping of the SeaMirror = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#3
= Shattering of Babylon's SeaMirror in the Reaping Millstone
Day#2693=Reset#1312=Mon, Apr23, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+22*=FE3=Gnosis#93
=Desolation#27=Angel of the Fire of the Earth = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#2
= Bloody Earth of the Winepress of Babylon in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone

Day#2692=Reset#1311=Sun, Apr22, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+21*=HA2*=Gnosis#92
=Desolation#26=Angel of the Harvest of the Air = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#1=Lower Gabriel{+21=+35-14}Mirror
= Mirror Nexus for the Reaping of the Old Earth by the Gospel of Euphrates in the Harvest of the Air
Day#2691=Reset#1310=Sat, Apr21, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+20*=GE2=Gnosis#91
=Desolation#25=Angel of the Gospel of Euphrates = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#-1
= Mirror Nexus for the Reaping of the Old Earth in the Harvest of the Air by the Gospel of Euphrates

Day#2690=Reset#1309=Fri, Apr20, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+19*=BB2=Gnosis#90
=Desolation#24=Angel of Babylon of the Beast = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#-2
= Fall of Babylon in the Darkness of the Beast
Day#2689=Reset#1308=Thu, Apr19, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+18*=IS2=DEBORAH+69696=53+36=89=Gnosis#89
=Desolation#23=Angel of the Images of the Sun = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#-3=Midpoint of Abortion Image 17+1+17
= False Images revealed in the Fires of the Logos Sun
Day#2688=Reset#1307=Wed, Apr18, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+17*=VW2=DEBORAH+35=53+35=88=Gnosis#88
=Desolation#22=Angel of the Voices of the Water = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#-4
= Times for the Harvest in the Bloody Waters of Babylon
Day#2687=Reset#1306=Tue, Apr17, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+16*=RSM2=Gnosis#87
=Desolation#21=Angel of the Reaping of the SeaMirror = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#-5
= Reaping of the Vine of the Earth in the SeaMirror of Babylon
Day#2686=Reset#1305=Mon, Apr16, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+15*=FE2=Gnosis#86
=Desolation#20=Angel of the Fire of the Earth = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#-6
= Fire and Brimstone in the Bloody Earth of the Winepress of Babylon
Day#2685=Reset#1304=Sun, Apr15, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+14*=HA1*=Gnosis#85
=Desolation#19=Babylon#9=Angel of the Harvest of the Air = WINEPRESS MIRROR TWINWOC#-7
= Beginning of the Harvest of the Old Earth in the Air of Euphrates in the Winepress Outside the New Temple Earth

Day#2684=Reset#1303=Sat, Apr14, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+14*=CMSEU=Gnosis#84
=Desolation#18=CLOUDED MIRROR of the SICKLE of EUPHRATES
Day#2683=Reset#1302=Fri, Apr13, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+12*=HB=Gnosis#83
=Desolation#17=Angel of the Harvest of the Beast
Day#2682=Reset#1301=Thu, Apr12, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+11*=FS=Gnosis#82
=Desolation#16=Angel of the Fire of the Sun

Day#2681=Reset#1300=Wed, Apr11, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+10*=RW=Prison#10=Gnosis#81
=End #7WOE#3=Desolation#15=Angel of the Reaping of the Water = ACEH IMAGE of December 26th, 2004
Day#2680=Reset#1299=Tue, Apr10, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+9*=VSM=Prison#9=Gnosis#80
=#6WOE#3=Desolation#14=Angel of the Voices of the SeaMirror
Day#2679=Reset#1298=Mon, Apr09, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+8*=IE=Prison#8=Gnosis#79
=#5WOE#3=Desolation#13=Angel of the Images of the Earth

Day#2678=Reset#1297=Sun, Apr08, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+7*=BA*=Prison#7=Easter Sunday=Gnosis#78
=#4WOE#3=Vial of the Air=Desolation#12=Beast#15=Unwarp#1=Angel of the Babylon of the Air
Day#2677=Reset#1296=Sat, Apr07, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+6*=GEU1=Prison#6=Gnosis#77
=#3WOE#3=Vial of Euphrates=Desolation#11=Beast#14=Unwarp#2=Angel of the Gospel of Euphrates
Day#2676=Reset#1295=Fri, Apr06, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+5*=BB1=Prison#5=Good Friday=Gnosis#76
=#2WOE#3=Vial of the Beast=Prison#5=Desolation#10=Beast#13=Unwarp#3=HornKing#10 with HornKing#1
Day#2675=Reset#1294=Thu, Apr05, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+4*=IS1=Prison#4=Gnosis#75
=Begin #1WOE#3=Vial of the Sun=Desolation#9=Beast#12=Unwarp#4=HornKing#9 with HornKing#2
Day#2674=Reset#1293=Wed, Apr04, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+3*=VW1=Prison#3=Gnosis#74
=End #7WOE#2=Vial of the Water=Desolation#8=Beast#11=Unwarp#5=HornKing#8 with HornKing#3
Day#2673=Reset#1292=Tue, Apr03, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+2*=RSM1=Prison#2=Gnosis#73
=#6WOE#2=Vial of the SeaMirror=Desolation#7=Beast#10=Unwarp#6=HornKing#7 with HornKing#4
Day#2672=Reset#1291=Mon, Apr02, 2012 =Baby(lon)#+1*=FE1=Prison#1=Gnosis#72
=#5WOE#2=Vial of the Earth=Desolation#6=Beast#9=Unwarp#7=HornKing#6 with HornKing#5

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=Begin #1WOE#2=Angel of the Voices=Desolation#2=Beast#5=Warp#5=HornKing#3
Day#2667=Wed, Mar28, 2012 =Baby(lon)#-4=2300+367=End WOE#1=Day#4 of Week#70=Gnosis#67
Day#2666=Tue, Mar27, 2012 =Baby(lon)#-5=2300+366=WOC#1*=Day#3 of Week#70=Gnosis#66
=Angel of Babylon=Beast#3=Warp#3=HornKing#1
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=70/71-Week MIRROR from March 25th to April 8th as the Hour of the Beast=Beast#1=Warp#1

Day#2663=Sat, Mar24, 2012 =Baby#-8=2300+363= WOC#4=End of Week#69=Gnosis#63
Day#2662=Fri, Mar23, 2012 =Baby#-9=2300+362 =WOC#3=Gnosis#62
Day#2661=Thu, Mar22, 2012 =Baby#-10=2300+361 =WOC#2=Gnosis#61
Day#2660=Wed, Mar21, 2012 =Baby#-11=2300+360 =WOC#1=Gnosis#60
Day#2659=Tue, Mar20, 2012 =Baby#-12=2300+359=Gnosis#59
= WOC MIRROR for March Equinox 2012 in Twin Earthquake Oaxaca-Papua
Day#2658=Mon, Mar19, 2012 =Baby#-13=2300+358=Gnosis#58
Day#2657=Sun, Mar18, 2012 =Baby#-14=2300+357=Begin Week#69=Gnosis#57
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Day#2653=Wed, Mar14, 2012 =Baby#-18=2300+353=Midpoint of AntiAbortion Image 17+1+17=HAROBED 53=Gnosis#53
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Day#2650=Sun, Mar11, 2012 =Baby#-21=2300+350=Begin Week#68=Gnosis#50
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Day#2646=Wed, Mar07, 2012 =Baby#-25=2300+346=Gnosis#47
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Day#2643=Sun, Mar04, 2012 =Baby#-28=2300+343=Begin Week#67=Gnosis#43
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Day#2637=Mon, Feb27, 2012 =Baby#-34=2300+337=Gnosis#37
Day#2636=Sun, Feb26, 2012 =Baby#-35=2300+336=Begin Week#66=Gnosis#36
Day#2635=Sat, Feb25, 2012 =Baby#-36=HAROBED-666=53-18=35=Gnosis#35
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Day#2629=Sun, Feb19, 2012 =Baby#-42=2300+329=Begin Week#65=Gnosis#29
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Day#2622=Sun, Feb12, 2012 =Baby#-49=2300+322=Begin Week#64=Gnosis#22
Day#2621=Sat, Feb11, 2012 =Baby#-50=2300+321=Gnosis#21
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Day#2615=Sun, Feb05, 2012 =Baby#-56=2300+315=Begin Week#63 in the Ark Uncover after 36 days=Gnosis#15
Day#2614=Sat, Feb04, 2012 =Baby#-57=2300+314=End of Week#62=Gnosis#14
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Day#2585=Thu, Jan06, 2012 =Baby#-86=2300+285=2555+30=2670-75-10 =(150-65=85)(-)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2579=Sat, Dec31, 2011 =2300+279 = Flight of the Dove after 7 days
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Day#2572=Sat, Dec24, 2011 =2300+272 = Flight of the Twig after 7 days
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Day#2565=Sat, Dec17, 2011 =2300+265 = Flight of the Raven after 224+40=264 days
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Day#2555=Wed, Dec07, 2011 =2300+255=2555=7x360+35=7x365=2670-75-40 =(150-35=115)(-)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2524=Sun, Nov06, 2011 =2300+224 = Peak of Mount Ararat in 150+74=224 days
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Day#2520=Wed, Nov02, 2011 =2520=1260+1260=2670-75-75 =(150-0=150)(-)Day Projection of WOE#1
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Day#2450=Wed, Aug24, 2011 =2300+150=2670-220 =(110+110=220)(-)Day Projection of WOE#1
= End of the Flood in 40+110=150 days
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Day#2405=Sun, Jul10, 2011 =2300+105 = 2670-265 in the Anti Pregnancy
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Day#2340=Fri, May06, 2011 =2300+40 = End of the Rains in 150 Days of the Flood
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Day#2184=Wed, Dec01, 2010
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Day#2180=Sat, Nov27, 2010
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Day#1380=Sat, Sep18, 2008 = 2670-1290 = 2671-1291 in the Warpzone Reset of December 8th, 2004 to April 1st, 2012
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Day#1342=Mon, Aug11, 2008 = MirrorDay#+7
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Day#1336=Tue, Aug05, 2008 = MirrorDay#+1 = Upper MIDPOINT MIRROR
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Day#1329=Tue, Jul29, 2008 = MirrorDay#-7
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Day#1295=Wed, Jun25, 2008 = Begin of Witness Testimony in 1260+35+1260=2555
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Day#1291=Sat, Jun21, 2008 = June Solstice 2008
Day#1290=Fri, Jun20, 2008
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Day#1260=Wed, May21, 2008
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Day#406=Tue, Jan17, 2006 = 391+15=406 as 1 Year + 1 Month + 1 Day + 1 Hour in 406=370+21+15=391+7+1+7 days
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Day#391=Mon, Jan02, 2006 = Four Corners of Euphrates' Warpzone Angels in 391=370+21 days
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Day#366=Thu, Dec08, 2005
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Day#35=Wed, Jan 12, 2005 = Baby#0 = Baby AntiAbortion Mirror
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Day#18=Sun, Dec26, 2004 = Baby#17= AntiAbortion Mirror Midpoint of Aceh Tsunami
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Day#1=Thu, Dec09, 2004 = Baby#34 = Begin of Warpzone
Day#00=Wed, Dec08, 2004 = Baby#-35 = Lower WARP DEATH MIRROR for Abomination of Desolation
Day#-1=Tue, Dec07, 2004 = Baby#-34
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Day#-17=Sun, Nov21, 2004 = Baby#-18 = Abortion Mirror (+1) in 71=(17+1+17)+1+(17+1+17) Days
for Ophiuchus Day for the solar ingress at 23:22 UCT Scorpio into Sagittarius
Day#-18=Sat, Nov20, 2004 =Baby#-17 = Abortion Mirror in 71=(17+1+17)+(17+1+17) Days
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Day#-34=Thu, Nov04, 2004 = Baby#-1 = Day of Abortion
Day#-35=Wed, Nov03, 2004 = Baby#00 = Baby Mirror of Conception
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Day#-46=Sat, Oct23, 2004 = Baby#11
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Day#-56=Wed, Oct13, 2004 = Baby#21 = 1st/3rd Week of 8/10 of Baby Conception
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Day#-63=Wed, Oct06, 2004 = Baby#28 = 2nd Week of 10 of Baby Conception
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Day#-70=Wed, Sep29, 2004 = Baby#35 = 1st Week of 10 of Baby Conception
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Day#-110=Fri, Aug20, 2004 = Baby#75
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• Post n°283

Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

Raven on Mon May 07, 2012 3:33 am
Raven wrote:

A Case For Christ's Resurrection

Raven on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:20 am
















In Lakech, Raven







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Chapter 13

Channeling

If one gets into New Age teachings, one is bound to run into some alleged channeled sources. Whoever does the channeling usually claims to be speaking for an entity that has higher knowledge and consequently people often treat the channeled information as if it is infallible. This can be problematic because there are several possibilities when it comes to channeled information that allegedly comes from a higher level being:
1.A person pretends to be channeling a higher level being with the hope of benefiting in some way. This possibility occurs quite often.
2.Without realizing it, a person channels his (or her) subconscious mind.
3.Without realizing it, a person channels a deceptive spirit.
4.A person actually channels a spirit that represents the light.

As you have probably figured out, Jesus Christ is dear to my heart. I’ve found that different New Age sources contradict each other about the issue of whether or not Jesus died on the cross. I understand that some people believe that this issue doesn’t matter, because they contend that having respect for Jesus isn’t dependent upon believing that he died on the cross. This isn’t relevant to what I am about to say because my aim is to show that some well-known sources of New Age information contradict each other and themselves about Jesus’ crucifixion.

Jane Roberts claimed that she channeled an entity named Seth.
This means that she allowed Seth to use her body to speak to people. She claimed that she made contact with Seth while using an Ouija board. In Jane’s book Seth Speaks (pages 366-368), “Seth” claims that Jesus wasn’t crucified. Rather, he alleges that Judas made arrangements for a mentally disturbed man to be drugged and crucified in Jesus’ place. Seth referred to what the gospels say as he tried to make his points. Therefore, it is reasonable for me to also use the gospels to show that the points Seth made are erroneous.

In the Gospels of Matthew (26:21-24), Mark (14:18-25), and Luke (22:21-22), Jesus tells Judas that he would betray him. Why would Jesus tell Judas this if Judas was arranging a hoax? Matthew 26:2; Mark 8:31, 9:12, 9:32 and 10:33-34; Luke 9:44, 17:25, and 18:31-33; and John 13:31; also show that Jesus was well aware that he would be crucified. Why would Jesus have this knowledge if a hoax was going to take place? The gospels also show that Jesus understood that it was his divine destiny to be crucified. If you believe that the gospels can’t be totally relied upon due to historical discrepancies and translation issues, please remember that Seth used the gospels as a basis for his arguments. Either the gospels can be used to make a point, or they can’t.

Regardless of what the gospels say, due to the following reasons I find it hard to believe that a mentally disturbed man was drugged and crucified in Jesus’ place:
•Judas wouldn’t have been able to plan a hoax without Jesus knowing about it.
•Judas probably couldn’t have gotten a mentally disturbed man to believe that he is Jesus.
•Even if he could, he wouldn’t have needed to drug him if he already believed he was Jesus. In fact, it would’ve been risky to do so because a drug could alter a deluded man’s state of mind in an unfavorable way.
•Somebody might’ve noticed that a man other than Jesus was being crucified and would’ve reported this fact to the authorities.

On page 415 of The Nature of a Personal Reality, Seth states:

The “substitute” was a personality seemingly deluded, but in his delusion he knew that each person is resurrected. He took it upon himself to become the symbol of this knowledge.

The underlined emphases in the paragraph above appear in the original text. They point to a contradiction that makes the alleged truth of Seth’s statement untenable. It doesn’t make sense to claim that the man who was supposedly crucified in Jesus’ place was both seemingly deluded and actually deluded. Either he was deluded or he wasn’t.

Seth stated that Peter denied Jesus three times because a man other than Jesus was captured. This contention isn’t supported by the gospels. Matthew 26:34, 69-75; Mark 14:29-31, 66-72; Luke 22:34, 54-65; and John 13:38, 18:15-18,25-27; clearly show that Peter denied Jesus three times because Jesus wouldn’t tell Peter that he was going to deny him three times if someone other than Jesus was going to be captured.

Seth claims that Jesus appeared to his disciples after the hoax-crucifixion in order to let them know that he wasn’t crucified and is still alive. Seth claimed that Jesus was a great psychic and had wounds appear on his body so his disciples could use them as a basis for identifying him. If Jesus wanted to let his disciples know that he was still alive and wasn’t crucified, wouldn’t he have a better chance of doing so if he didn’t have wounds that made it seem as if he was crucified? Imagine how his conversation with his disciples would’ve played out.


Jesus: “Here I am. I wasn’t crucified.”

Disciple: “Then why do you have wounds on your body as if you were?”

Jesus: “In order to let you know that I wasn’t crucified I created them.”

Disciple: “But Master, wouldn’t we be more likely to believe that you weren’t crucified if you didn’t have wounds on the parts of your body we expect you to have them?”

Jesus: “I psychically created them so you would be able to recognize me.”

Disciple: “Why wouldn’t we be able to recognize you without wounds? We know you so well.”

Jesus: “Uh…uh”

Disciple: “Master, I asked you…”

Jesus: “Don’t rush me. I’m trying to come up with a parable that will make this clear.”


I hope the above imaginary dialogue clarifies how unreasonable it is to conclude that Jesus psychically created wounds to mimic having been crucified in order to prove that he wasn’t crucified. If Jesus’ disciples could recognize Jesus only if they saw wounds on his body, then how did they recognize him on previous occasions? Did they suddenly en masse develop a case of dementia? I figure they knew what he looked like, what his voice sounded like and, considering that Jesus was an evolved person, they probably knew what his presence felt like. Even if for some odd reason these modes of recognition didn’t work, perhaps they could’ve asked Jesus some questions for which a man other than Jesus wouldn’t know the answer. Or perhaps they could’ve asked Jesus to perform a miracle or two.

Seth claims that his point is validated because Thomas accepted that Jesus was Jesus only after he put his hand into the wound on Jesus’ side. This claim demonstrates a lack of understanding of what took place. Thomas was not with the disciples the first time Jesus appeared to them. When some of the disciples told Thomas that Jesus had reappeared, he said “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” (John 20:25). Eight days later Jesus reappeared to his disciples when Thomas was with them. Jesus told Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” Then Jesus told him. “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed” (John 20:26-29).

Nowhere within the gospels does it say that Jesus proved who he was to the rest of his disciples by the same means. He spoke to Thomas as he did in order to respond to the non-literal comments Thomas made to his fellow disciples when he said he didn’t believe Jesus had appeared to them. I say this after making the not-too-bold assumption that Thomas spoke just figuratively when he said he would believe that Jesus was alive only after he sees the nail marks in his hands and put his fingers where the nails were, and put his hand into his side. He probably recognized Jesus immediately, just as the other disciples had done. In fact, this point is established with Jesus’ statement, “Because you have seen me, you have believed.”

There is also the matter of how Thomas knew about Jesus’ wounds not only in a general way–he knew about the wound in Jesus’ side. I believe it is reasonable to conclude that Thomas knew about this specific wound because it had become known to Jesus’ disciples that he had been wounded in this part of his body.

Seth claimed that when Jesus couldn’t convince his disciples that he was himself, he willed his life in this world to an end, because there was no point in continuing it. I believe it is contradictory for Seth to say that Thomas stuck his hand into Jesus’ wound in order to verify that he was with Jesus, and then contend that he wasn’t convinced.

Mary Innes claims to channel an entity named Elias.
Elias is supposed to be similar to Seth. Nevertheless, Seth and Elias contradict each other when it comes to the crucifixion. Elias claimed that Jesus moved to Macedonia and died of natural cause at the age of 51. Clearly Elias and Seth contradict each other. If what Elias claims is true, it is odd that Paul had to speak to Jesus’ disciples in order to learn about Jesus’ teachings, since Jesus could have been found in Macedonia.

Suzanne Ward claims to channel her deceased son Matthew.
She wrote that Matthew’s spirit told her that rather than being crucified, Jesus was whipped and then let go.[12] Once again a well-known channeled source contradicts other well-known channeled sources about a significant event.

Alleged psychic Sylvia Browne is another person who felt it necessary to come up with a story about how Jesus didn’t die on the cross.
In her book The Mystical Life of Jesus she makes Jesus sound like a wimp who made a deal with Pontius Pilote. Pilote allegedly tried to work things out so Jesus wouldn’t have to be crucified. When he wasn’t able to do so, he supposedly arranged to have Jesus removed from the cross before he died. He also supposedly arranged for a foot stool to be placed under Jesus’ feet while he was on the cross. Sylvia also wrote that the people who crucified Jesus were experts in anatomy, and they drove stakes into Jesus’ body in a manner where no arteries were damaged so he wouldn’t bleed to death.

I find it hard to believe that none of the people who attended Jesus’ crucifixion noticed the foot stool. I find it hard to believe that arrangements could be made so the people who were responsible for hammering stakes into Jesus’ body would do so in a manner that spared his life. Even if such arrangements could be made, I find it hard to believe that the people who nailed Jesus to the cross knew how to avoid an artery. Even if they managed to avoid Jesus’ arteries, surely the puncture wounds from the stakes that were placed into his hands and feet, the spear that was thrust into his side, and the crown of thorns that was rammed onto his head, would’ve caused him to lose enough blood so he would die before the scene was clear and he could be removed from the cross without anybody becoming suspicious about what Pilote supposedly arranged. I also find it hard to believe that with all of Jesus’ reported mystic abilities he would have a difficult time avoiding his tormentors if he chose to do so. Therefore, he wouldn’t require Pilote’s very painful and life-threatening mock-crucifixion plot.

It is also significant to point out that Sylvia Browne contradicted herself about Jesus’ manner and age of death. In her March/April 2007 Sylvia Browne Newsletter she wrote that Jesus died at the age of 33. In her book The Mystical Life of Jesus she wrote that he died at the age of 86. I believe this is quite a contradiction. Her book was published in 2006. Perhaps when a person dishes out too much misinformation (see Stop Sylvia Browne.net), he (or she) is bound to lose track of the details.

I’ve found that when some people hear about such inconsistencies they continue to have no problem with the sources I mentioned. Sometimes they’ll contend that some kind of interpretive error takes place as a person channels a spirit. If this is the case, I’d say that quite a bit of misinterpretation takes place because the above sources provided their viewpoints with a lot of details. When a source presents so many erroneous details perhaps it isn’t trustworthy.

When people get into the justification, rationalization and denial game for such sources, they comment about the true information such a source provides. I have found that a source doesn’t have to be legitimate in order to come up with some information that is true. Lots of people are capable of reading some books, thinking a bit, and coming up with their own spin on what higher truth supposedly is. To the extent accurate information is provided no harm is done; however, people can be misled by the false information that is provided. I’ve found that people who are into channeled sources often take on a cult-like mentality and no matter how clearly you present the inconsistencies, they’ll come up with some way to defend the inconsistencies even if this requires them to come up with arguments that make no sense at all.

The main reason people attach themselves to sources of information to such an extent is because they use such sources to develop a way of thinking that makes them feel oriented, secure and perhaps happy. They get to the point where they believe in a not-fully-conscious way that they had better not question their belief because if they do, they’ll lose their sense of orientation, security, happiness and peace.

The fact of the matter is that divine truth is so wonderful that as long as they live their life in a positive way they don’t have to be concerned that letting go of a false belief system will ruin their happiness. In fact, by choosing to let go of a false belief system they’ll be more able to open themselves to receiving information that is more positive than what they currently believe. There’s even a good chance they’ll be quite happy that some of the viewpoints they used to believe aren’t true. This is true even when some viewpoints don’t seem negative until one can look closely in hindsight.

Going by the spirit messages I have received, Jesus was in fact crucified. There are people who have a problem with the idea of Jesus being crucified, partly because they don’t like the he died for our sins premise. Others contend that this premise is true because they believe we all became sinners when Eve ate the apple in the Garden of Eden. Jesus then had to take care of our sins by being crucified. I don’t agree with this later point because I don’t believe the Garden of Eden story is literal. The story is a symbolic way of saying that when our souls incarnated into this world for the purpose of learning important lessons, we lost our innocence for a while.

I believe Jesus has helped tremendously, not by dying for our sins, but by finding the way back to God and being an example for anybody who wants to learn from him. Also, many people avoid lower realms after they die partly because of how Jesus has inspired them. When this is the case, Jesus died for their sins by inspiring them to not sin.

Also, some souls don’t move on to the light right away because their fear and guilt prevent them from doing so. They are afraid they will get punished, don’t feel deserving of heavenly wonders, or a combination of these two factors. Fortunately, many of these souls don’t stay in such a state for an extended period of time because they believe Christ died for their sins and therefore don’t feel the need to punish themselves by remaining in a lower realm for an extended period. They believe Jesus will forgive them–and going by what feels right to me, he does. I’m not saying that they won’t have to become aware of how they may have hurt others, but their faith in Christ enables them to get the help they need rather than staying stuck for an extended period of time.

Back to Jane Roberts: Seth didn’t limit his inaccurate statements about Jesus to the crucifixion issue. In Jane’s books Seth Speaks and A Nature of a Personal Reality, Seth took three of Jesus’ most famous verses and interpreted them so they lacked spiritual meaning. For example, Seth claimed that when Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself he was just making a joke, because nobody loved their neighbor during Jesus’ time period (page 414).[13] I believe it is quite obvious that Seth’s claim is ludicrous; nevertheless, I’ll show how the Gospels don’t support Seth’s claim. From the Gospel of Matthew:

“5:43 Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy: 5:44 but I say unto you, love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you; 5:45 that ye may be sons of your Father who is in heaven: for he maketh his sun rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust. 5:46 For if ye love them that love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than other? do not even the Gentiles the same? 5:48 Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

Certainly the above isn’t a demonstration of Jesus not being good at sticking to one-liners.

Also from the Gospel of Matthew:

19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 19:17 And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments. 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19:19 Honor thy father and mother; and, Thou shalt love they neighbor as thyself. 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet? 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 19:22 But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sorrowful; for he was one that had great possessions.”

22:34 But the Pharisees, when they heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, gathered themselves together. 22:35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, trying him: 22:36 Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law? 22:37 And he said unto him, Thou shalt love thy Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 22:38 This is the great and first commandment. 22:39 And a second like unto it is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 22:40 On these two commandments the whole law hangeth, and the prophets.”

When I read the above closely, I find it hard to believe that Jesus was making a joke about any of the commandments he shared. What seems most reasonable to you? He 1) made a joke about each of the commandments, 2) shared commandments he was serious about and then just for the fun of it added a joke about loving one’s neighbor as one’s self, or 3) realized that he was asked about the most important commandments and responded accordingly? How about the last verse? “On these two commandments the whole law hangeth, and the prophets.” Was this statement an extension of a hardy-har-har joke about loving God and loving your neighbor as yourself, or is Seth’s claim full of beans?

Also, Jesus wasn’t the originator of the commandments he stated. They are commandments that can be found in the Old Testament. (Leviticus 9:33-34 and Deuteronomy 10:19 for the love thy neighbor as yourself commandment.) This being the case, how could it be a matter of Jesus making an ill-timed joke? Remember, in comedy, timing is everything.

If one is willing, one can find that some of the most popular New Age sources aren’t as infallible as they claim. Sometimes this is hard to see, not just for the reasons discussed above, but also because people are hungry for knowledge and become excited when they find a source of information that seems to have the answers they are looking for. Their excitement might cause them to turn their discrimination meter off. This is unfortunate. Sometimes patience is a necessary part of the journey. Perhaps it is better to be patient and find a path that is true, rather than allow a quick-fix approach to lead us astray.

[12] I don’t remember which book she says this in. I read it while in a book store, this book store still doesn’t have this book, and I decided it wouldn’t make sense to purchase all of her books just so I can state which book.

[13] The following words were used: “The very term, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” was an ironic statement, for in that society no man loved his neighbor, but distrusted him heartily. Much of Christ’s humor has been lost, therefore. “

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Nondual Teachings – My Likes and Dislikes – 1/17/12

By Albert A. Haust III

Copyright © 2012



After reading some of my articles people might begin to wonder if I have a big problem with nondual teachings. They might wonder if I say critical things about nondual teachings simply for the sake of being negative. They might also wonder if there is anything about nondual teachings that I like.

I wrote what I wrote not for the sake of being negative, but for the sake of providing information that I hope will be useful. There are some nondual principles I like and agree with, but definitely not all of them.

At one point in my life I restricted my beliefs in accordance with nondual principals. Since these nondual teachings were purported to come from gurus who were enlightened, I thought, “How could they possibly be wrong?”

I gained freedom from such a restricted way of believing in an incremental way. First I found out that the guru I was studying with wasn’t the spiritual master he claimed to be. After discovering this I left his group. But I had not yet reached the point where I could thoroughly question all nondual teachings because I still believed that other nondual teachers such as Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj were enlightened and therefore infallible.

Eventually I reached the point where I didn’t want my beliefs to be dictated by anybody, not even people like Ramana and Nisargadatta. As far as I was concerned having a state of mind where I wouldn’t allow myself to question principles that were taught by eminent gurus such as Ramana and Nisargadatta, wasn’t any different than having a state of mind where a person won’t question anything the Bible says because supposedly the Bible is inerrant. Whether one assumes a source of information is infallible or inerrant, it amounts to the same thing.

When I allowed myself to actually question some of the things gurus such as Ramana and Nisargadatta said, I found that some of the things they said didn’t sound correct. Not only that, there were important spiritual topics they didn’t speak about that one would expect a spiritual master to speak about.

On one occasion I meditated and asked myself “Who am I?” At first I did so with the nondual expectation of experiencing myself as pure awareness that didn’t have anything to do with the mind aspect of being. But then I decided to not limit myself by the guidelines set by nondual gurus. This enabled me to understand that it doesn’t make sense to try to experience oneself as nothing but pure awareness because awareness couldn’t be aware without having something to be aware of. While meditating in such a way a person might experience something such as a vast expanse of deep peace, but this deep peace isn’t awareness itself or the nothingness some nondualists like to speak of. Anything that feels as great as deep peace definitely exists and is more than nothingness.

I also realized that even if I could bring my mind to a halt this didn’t mean that my mind didn’t exist. Rather, it would be a matter of my using my mind in such a way that I wasn’t aware of it. I realized in a deep way that both the mind and awareness aspects of my being are a part of who I am, and that there is no way they could be separated from each other, even if I could get my mind to me more quiet than usual.

This was a wonderful thing to discover because our mind can be a marvelous tool if we allow it to be. We can use it to do things such as learn about useful things and make decisions.

If it wasn’t for the fact that I was daring enough to question what even eminent gurus such as Ramana and Nisargadatta had to say, I would not have reached the point where I could move beyond their guidelines and discover that I am more than pure awareness and that there is nothing wrong with being more than pure awareness. I encourage everyone to dare to question all allegedly sacred teachings and teachers. Trust your inner wisdom and your ability to reason, and learn to decide for yourself.

That said, below are the things I like and dislike about nondual teachings. At the end of the discussion I present my likes and dislikes in tabular form.

Things about Nondual Teachings I like:

The principle that we are all one.

One of the key tenets of nondual teachings is that we are all one and not separate from each other. I agree, and believe this is a wonderful thing to believe and understand. Even though I believe love makes it so a person would love another person even if that other person was completely separate from himself, it is good when an understanding of Oneness inspires him to view others as a part of himself.

The principle that we are the awareness that is aware of our existence.

People who aren’t spiritually alert tend to underemphasize the fact that the part of their self that is aware of what they perceive is a major part of who they are. Nondual teachings inspire people to consider the significance of this awareness aspect of their being.

The principle that happiness is found inside rather than outside.

A lot of people are too focused on trying to obtain happiness, peace, love, meaning, and fulfillment through outward means. So much so that they fail to see how much these very desirable attributes can be found inside within their own being which is connected to and a part of the great Oneness that exists. Nondual teachings can inspire people to seek positive attributes such as happiness inwardly, rather than outwardly.


Things about Nondual Teachings I don’t like:

The principle that there is no such thing as an individual being.

A lot of expounders of nonduality contend that there is no such thing as an individual being, eternal soul, an I, a someone. Rather, they contend that there is only One Self. If one considers this viewpoint very thoroughly one will see that it isn’t a good thing because if it’s true, then eventually there will be only One Self all by its lonesome self for all of eternity.

Unless a person believes that he will get to be that One Self, or believes that it is okay that his future includes non-existence rather than immortality, I don’t understand how he could believe that the nondual viewpoint I am speaking of is a good thing. This would be a bad thing to believe even if things worked out so that he ends up being the One Self because he would be alone for allllllllllllllllllllll of eternity! Also, if he lived according to love, he would feel sad about the many beings who no longer get to exist.

I’ve found that it isn’t our sense of self that causes us to feel as if we are separate from others. Rather, our self-centered viewpoints cause us to feel this way. Once we let go of such viewpoints we find that we are one and many at the same time. This is a wonderful thing because it means that our future includes an eternal way of being where we share love completely with each other.

This isn’t just wishful hypothetical thinking. People including myself have had experiences where we found that we eventually obtain a state of being where we are one and many at the same time. Each of us exists substantially enough so we can share love completely with each other for all of eternity.

The principle that we are only awareness.

As I said above, it is great that nondual teachings get people to consider the awareness aspect of themselves. Unfortunately, nondual teachings sometimes encourage people to do this to such an extreme extent that they end up underestimating the reality as well as the value of the creative and mind aspects of being.

Without our creative aspect of being, our awareness wouldn’t have anything to be aware of. What would be the point of living in such a non-experiential state? When I say this I have it in mind that even basic qualities such as love and peace are something that the creative aspect of being brought into existence. There’s also a lot to like about the other things the creative aspect of being has brought about, such as beautiful landscapes and music. When it comes to the mind aspect of being, please consider what I said during the earlier part of this article. (And at other places that can be found within my books and this site.)

When some people find out about the awareness aspect of themselves they also find out about the love, happiness and peace that can be found within their own being. On some occasions they become so enamored with what they find that they feel as if they have to push the other parts of themselves such as their mind and identity away. This is especially so if they are directed by a guru who claims that they have to transcend their mind and sense of self completely.

It is true that eventually we want to find that we are much more than a body-based being, but this doesn’t mean that we have to give up our mind and sense of individuality. Say a person is a rock star for a while. He becomes very identified with being a rock star and tries to find self worth and fulfillment through such an identity. Eventually, however, he finds that the perfection his soul seeks can’t be obtained through such an approach. Therefore, he seeks a spiritual approach and discovers that he is much more than the body-based person that people know as a rock star. He understands that he is a divine spirit being who incarnates into a body for a while and plays the role of rock star.

In order to become free of the imperfections that go along with being a rock star he doesn’t have to completely forget what it is like to be a rock star. Even though such an experience has some imperfections, it also includes facets that will help his soul become wiser. Perhaps he’ll find out that one doesn’t obtain true love and self worth by being treated in the way rock stars are treated. He’ll discover that self worth is found when one becomes a being who lives according to positive qualities such as humility and love. Self worth is found in such a way because how could a person not feel good about himself if he lives according to such wonderful qualities?

Spiritual transcendence isn’t obtained by denying one’s unique role as a part of the Oneness or by denying one’s mind. It is found by learning to use one’s mind and the creative aspect of being in a wise and loving way. Sometimes an experience of what doesn’t work, such as being a rock star, helps us find what works.

With the above in mind, I hope you might be able to relate to why I don’t like it when nondual teachings emphasize the awareness aspect of being to such an extent that they end upmaking the mistake of denying other aspects of being that are just as much a part of who we are. Perhaps you’ll also understand why I don’t like it when gurus present themselves as enlightened and infallible and their followers are therefore highly unlikely to question this excessive emphasis on the awareness aspect of being.

The principle that the World isn’t real.

I’d like to begin by saying that I understand that this World we find ourselves in isn’t the first, final and ultimate reality. Due to experiences I’ve had and whatmakes sense to me I understand that our true horizons are far beyond this World. However, this doesn’t mean that this World doesn’t exist in a substantial way while we are incarnated in it.

I am aware of a number of occasions where a person spoke to his guru about his concerns for the problems that exist within this World, and in response his guru would tell him to not worry about such problems because this World is nothing but an illusion. On some occasions a guru will state that the World we experience while awake isn’t any different than the World we experience while dreaming and therefore, there is no need to be concerned.

The fact of the matter is that there is a significant difference between the reality we experience during a dream and what we experience while in this waking state World. If you have a nightmare where you experience people going through horrendous things, the person who sleeps next to you might notice your discomfort and shake you so you’ll wake up and no longer experience your dream state World. You’ll find that, much to your relief, the problems that existed during your dream no longer exist.

The same can’t be said with this waking state World. No matter how much the person you share a bed with shakes you the problems of this World aren’t going to go away. Many people are in fact suffering very intensely. This fact doesn’t go away no matter how callous a guru gets when he tells his followers that they don’t have to worry about the problems and suffering that exist in this World.

Now some people might say that some gurus tell their followers to go ahead and do things to help make this World a better place, and I suppose some do. However, this doesn’t negate the fact that some gurus do get their followers to become indifferent about the problems of the World we live in.

I remember how it was with the guru-based group I used to belong to. Some members, including the guru himself, believed they were superior to people who concerned themselves with the problems that exist in this World. They believed that only an ignorant person who believes that this World is real would be concerned about what takes place within it. I believe it is a big mistake for a person who has the concept that the World isn’t real to disregard suffering because no matter how obsessively he holds on to such a concept, many people within this World are in fact suffering.

Indifference often leads to non-action. For the sake of discussion, please let me assume that you are a person who doesn’t approve of what took place in Iraq for the past decade. A part of the reason the war in Iraq took place is because George W. Bush became the President of the United States. If U.S.citizens would’ve voted differently (possible Florida shenanigans aside), perhaps Bush would not have been elected and resultantly the Iraq war and all of the negative consequences would not had taken place.

Quite often people don’t vote because they are indifferent. As far as I could tell the people who belonged to the nondual guru-based group I belonged to didn’t vote. Why would they if they believed that the World is only an illusion they didn’t need to be concerned about?

When people believe in such a way they conclude that any suffering that took place (and continues to take place) within Iraq is only an illusion. If you spoke to a little Iraqi girl who was burned very badly by an explosion, she would of course tell you a different story. Her pain and the resulting scars would be very real despite what some supposed enlightened person who compares life in this World to life in a dream has to say about the matter. I swear, indifference that is based on nondual teachings can be quite an ugly thing.

The principle that we don’t have free will.

Some nondual gurus say that we don’t have free will. When they say such a thing they erroneously believe that they are being sophisticated thinkers. I’ve found that we always have a place within ourselves that enables us to have free will. It is just that sometimes we get so caught up in our psychological conditioning that we don’t use our free will in a wise and loving way. The more we learn about the value of using our free will in a wise and loving way rather than acting according to reactive psychological conditioning, the more we’ll choose a wise and loving way.

If a person takes on the belief that he doesn’t have free will, it becomes a self-defeating prophecy. He will manifest according to what he believes. If he follows a guru he believes is enlightened and therefore infallible, and this guru tells him that he doesn’t have free will, he might have a hard time finding out that he does have free will. This leads to the next thing I don’t like about nondual teachings.

For the most part they are based on what supposedly enlightened and infallible gurus have to say.

When you try to determine the validity of a particular thought system it is often helpful to consider its history. If a thought system was started by people who put themselves on a pedestal as infallible authority figures, tell others that they hold the key to their spiritual welfare, have others surrender their lives to them, and allow others to treat them in a worshipful way, then perhaps the validity of that thought system should be questioned.

Despite how nondual teachings sometimes manifest in the West, they originate from gurus who fit the above description. There is usually more to the description than I stated above. Some gurus abuse their followers under the premise that they do so in order to help them overcome their ego. (Please read this article if you want to find out more about gurus http://nondualityisdualistic.com/articles-2/do-you-need-a-guru-december-9-2011/.)

Even if gurus didn’t do things such as set things up so their followers treat them in a worshipful way, I am still opposed to how they present themselves because they do so as if they are enlightened beings and beyond being wrong about spiritual matters. As a result, and as discussed above, when a person decides to believe what such a guru says he ends up having a hard time thinking outside of the belief system provided by the guru, because the belief system includes the concept that the guru can’t be wrong. My feeling is that any person who truly respected and loved others wouldn’t do something that causes the people he teaches to believe that what he says can’t be questioned. A responsible person would never do something that gets other people caught up in a psychological trap.

A person who isn’t under the spell of the guru game would see that this is in fact what is taking place. There are many people who are trapped within a guru-based thought system. They are having a hard time seeing their way out of such a thought system partly because it includes the insidious and mind controlling ingredient that a guru can’t be wrong when it comes to spiritual matters. Some followers take this problem to a further extreme and believe that their guru can’t be wrong about anything.

What I like and dislike about Nondual teachings in tabular form:


Likes:|Dislikes:

The importance of Oneness.|The mistake of believing that you have to deny the existence of a multiplicity of souls in order for Oneness to exist.


Awareness is a part of who we are.|The awareness aspect of Self is sometimes emphasized to an extent that the importance and reality of the mind and creative aspects of being are denied.


Happiness is found inside.|The World is just an illusion so you don’t have to worry about the suffering that takes place within it.
We don’t have free will.
The long history of Guru as infallible authority figure.


Regarding Earth Changes and 2012


First of all I’ll begin by saying that I don’t know much about the Mayan Calendar. Regarding it predicting the end of the world, well, on Internet-land there are many sites that speak of the Mayan Calendar and, as happens with a land of divergent opinions and purposes, they have divergent conclusions.

Fortunately, I haven’t found it necessary to work myself through the large Mayan Calendar puzzle because I have made contact with my spirit guidance. I know this guidance is trustworthy and it has let me know that, despite my skepticism about 2012, significant changes are going to take place in the near future (I don’t mean the end of the world).

One of the first messages I received about these changes occurred while meditating one morning. I first heard and saw a planet explode into rocks. I could feel the impact of this taking place. Next I saw and heard a planet explode into fire. Next I saw a planet explode into white light. At the time I didn’t connect this three-part message to 2012, but I did connect it to the Earth changes people speak of. I figured the white light explosion was a very positive sign.

At a later time I received messages stating that if a minimal number of people reach the point where they live according to love to a significant degree, this world will change for the better. The key point is that love is more than an energy that feels good, it also contains much wisdom. This wisdom enables a person to understand principles such as why it is important to be humble and to care for others deeply. It is more than a matter of need, it is also a matter of understanding how fulfilling it is to be a person who lives according to love and is able to care for others.

If a minimal number of people reach the point where they can radiate love to others to a significant degree, this will inspire these other people to do the same and before you know it a game of love tag will be in place. Not only will more people than before radiate love to each other, they’ll create and radiate fewer negative thoughts and less negative energy than before. Since for the most part the outer is a reflection of the inner, more positive action and less negative action will result.

This increase in love and decrease of negative energy will cause the world’s vibratory level to increase. This will cause negative influences to be repelled and positive influences to be attracted. Also, since it is more accurate to say that reality exists at energetic levels rather than in a 3D space-oriented way, faster vibrating realms where beings of love and light abide will make a stronger energetic connection to this world.

To an extent that is hard to specify, even one person can bring more love into the world by opening up to divine love and thereby providing a way where more love can be channeled into the world. I’m speaking of a love portal.

A point was reached where it was determined that I would be provided with information about negative change-related events that might take place. I emphasized the word might because I’m not certain how etched in stone these negative events are. I believe there are occasions when people receive messages about future unfavorable events, not for the purpose of communicating what will happen no matter what, but to convey what is most likely to happen unless the human race changes for the better.

Despite how people often respond when they hear about such messages, they aren’t sent frivolously. RATHER, light beings send them because they hope a significant number of people will respond to them and do what is necessary to make positive changes. It is as if we are like people who sit comfortably in a living room watching TV as the rest of the house is on fire, and the people from outside who try to warn them with limited effect are the spirit beings who try to warn us about possible Earth changes.

The spirit beings who send us warning messages have great concern for the suffering and hardships many people (and our furry animal friends) are going through and will continue to go through to an even greater degree unless we change for the better. They have concern even though they are aware of the big picture which includes the fact that most if not all of the people who suffer will eventually find the perfection of the light. The thing is, abiding at a higher level doesn’t mean being aware of one part of the equation while ignoring the rest. It means being aware of all parts of the equation even if some of the math is uncomfortable to deal with.

It might seem unrealistic to suggest that people watching TV in a burning house wouldn’t notice that other parts of the house are on fire, but it isn’t unrealistic to suggest that many people aren’t sufficiently aware of how this world is in dire straits and there is a tremendous need for positive change. It also isn’t unrealistic to suggest that many people are scoffing at people who speak about coming catastrophes and possible invasions by unfriendly aliens, even though they haven’t seriously looked into and considered what these messengers have to say.

Oh, I had to go there, didn’t I? I had to speak of an unfriendly alien invasion. I’ll explain why I chose to do so. To begin, one night I had a dream and I was in a room on the second floor of a building that was located in a small desert town. It seemed as if this town was in Southern California. I was watching the news on TV and they showed a film of a flood that was taking place right in the area I was located. I found this hard to believe because I didn’t understand how so much water could be located in the desert far away from an ocean. So I got up, looked out the window, and saw that a large flood was in fact taking place. Next I hid in a part of the building that was hard to locate by others so unfriendly beings couldn’t get to me. They didn’t find me and people who have a positive approach to life survived (including myself) and the unfriendly beings were unsuccessful in what they attempted.

Some of you might say, “So what, it was only a dream. Perhaps his subconscious mind was influenced by what he had been reading and therefore thinking about.” The fact of the matter is that I hadn’t been reading and thinking about floods and invasions by unfriendly beings. Also, before this dream took place I had analyzed thousands of my dreams and found that even though there are occasions when nothing more than meanderings of my subconscious mind takes place, most of the time my dreams are spirit messages. Because I’ve analyzed a lot of dreams, I’ve come to learn about the subtle things dream creators (higher self and spirit guidance) do in order to make it clear that they created the dream. In this case I believe the fact of how I saw the flooding first take place on TV, doubted what was reported, and then looked outside and saw the flooding take place in a very detailed way, shows that more than the random mishmash meanderings of my subconscious mind was involved. Plus, the part of the dream where positive people survived and unfriendly beings failed came to me as a package of information the random meanderings of my subconscious mind probably couldn’t duplicate.

Around the same time I had a dream where I was in a house that was located next to what seemed to be the Pacific Ocean. Large waves of water came towards the California coast. These waves were accompanied by unfriendly beings. Once again, people who took a positive approach to life survived while the unfriendly beings failed.

In another dream Dannion Brinkley and I were in a room watching TV (Dannion is a well-known near-death experiencer who speaks publicly about Earth changes). Dannion said, “It is really hot,” and got up and stood by a window with the curtain partly in front of him (the part about the curtain being in front of him is a detail the random meanderings of my subconscious mind probably wouldn’t come up with). This concerned me because I didn’t want my bedroom to be too warm when I went to sleep. So I walked to my bedroom window to open the drapes and let cool nighttime air in, and to my surprise I saw the ocean with a vibrant shade of blue. This surprised me, because there isn’t an ocean behind my waking-state bedroom. Suddenly, the waves became very active and large and came up to my house. I said, “Dannion, look how much water there is!”

I’ve had other dreams that made similar points. Some were lucid, and each seemed to be a part of a puzzle. I don’t believe it would be productive to provide all the details, however, I will say that beings who represent the light, both human and non-human, are shown taking on the task of dealing with these unfriendly beings.

I have also received messages about the coming changes and unfriendly aliens while awake. For instance, one night I watched the movie Communion. This movie is about Whitley Strieber’sreported alien abduction events, and Christopher Walken played Whitley. As I lay in bed later that night, I first saw and heard an image of Christopher Walken. He looked at me in a very intense way and said, “It’s a fact.” Next I was shown the image of an unfriendly alien. It seemed clear to me that this two-part message meant that some people have been abducted by unfriendly aliens. (I don’t believe the message served the purpose of saying one way or the other what happened to Whitley.) If you’re wondering if this might’ve been something my mind created, well, when you receive a lot of spirit messages in visual form, you find that there is a specific feeling behind many of them. I don’t mean just the feeling that goes along with the message, but also the sense that the message was sent by a conscious spirit being. When I received this message I had this sense.

In order to determine if the unfriendly beings perceived in two of the dreams discussed above were unfriendly aliens, while meditating I asked for a confirmation. I was shown an image of Captain Picard (from Star Trek the Next Generation) with a very concerned look on his face. I know this might seem like a silly message to receive, but anybody who has received numerous spirit messages in visual form would probably be able to understand why a message that has serious intent would be sent in such a way. Since Spirit Pictionary can be a challenging way to communicate, a spirit being will use any image that will do the trick, even if the image received might seem silly.

On another occasion I received a message in the form of a short waking dream, and I experienced myself in a spaceship and Counselor Deanna Troy (also from Star Trek the Next Generation) was very concerned about what was going to take place (a possible invasion by unfriendly aliens), and she asked if there is anybody concerned enough to respond, and a friendly man responded (I can’t remember who).

In a similar way I received a message that unfriendly alien beings are already interacting with this world, perhaps in the form of human-looking clones. The next day I received a related message which seemed to make the point that friendly beings are keeping track of the unfriendly aliens. I don’t know to what extent.

I’m not alone when it comes to receiving this kind of message. A man named Mark Aubrey shares what he learned about unfriendly alien beings known as Reptilians in his book Keep it Simple. Perhaps the name Reptilian made you wonder about my sanity and discrimination. If so, I know where you are coming from. I used to jokingly refer to the Reptilians people speak of as Lizards. But eventually my guidance decided to let me know about the reality of such beings, as partly described above.

Even though there are questionable sources that speak of Reptilians, I’ve found that some seem trustworthy. For example, when it comes to Mark Aubrey, going by the impression I got of him as I read his book and some of his Internet forum postings, he seems like a sincere man with good intentions. I’m not saying he’s infallible and never gets it wrong, but he seems to have better discrimination than most people.

In his book (a free electronic copy can be found at this site,
http://issuu.com/tayesin/docs/keep_it_simple)
Mark wrote (page 155):

What follows is a little discussion I ‘heard,’ [during an out-of-body experience] apparently these ‘reptilians’ were actively working at bringing about the Armageddon scenario as described in the Bible, they were also actively involved in producing numbers of earthquakes including some large ones around the planet and were here in massive numbers, although the larger main force is on standby within our Solar System, in ‘cloaked ships’.

Also, from page 155, an explanation as to why unfriendly aliens don’t attack:

One being suggested simply attacking and destroying the Dark Forces, but this was answered with, “Should we choose that option they will respond with a full force attack upon that world and us. We do not have sufficient numbers here as yet to deal with such a situation.” Another being asked, “Could we not destroy them one ship at a time when we see them? And the answer was, “that action will also provoke a full-scale attack. How we deal with this situation must be very well planned and not make any provocations.”

Kay Wilson is another person I find to be credible, and she speaks of her experiences with Reptilian-like beings at her site:
http://www.alienjigsaw.com/ and in her books I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember (available for free at her site) and The Alien Jigsaw. A lot the information she provides isn’t based on hypnotic regression (as is true with some alien abductees). Rather, Kay has had numerous lucid dreams where she received information, often in a symbolic way. Going by what I have read, she hasn’t figured out what all of the information she received means, hence the title Alien Jigsaw. However, enough of what she shares shows that on some occasions she has been in contact with Reptilian-like beings. She has also been in contact with beings she refers to as Super Conscious Beings and they seem to be beings of love and light. On one occasion she experienced as follows (from page 221 of I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember):

In July of 1997, I had another contact involving Super Conscious Beings. I was shown past deaths and suffering of family members and some of my pets. I was told that in the reliving of these deaths, I was being prepared for more death and more loss, and I was told that I had to accept this because this would be a part of my life. I then looked up into the sky and saw what would happen in our future:

A slit or hole will appear in the night sky and it will be surrounded by a fuzzy haze. Out of the slit will come two waves of hundreds of alien craft to attack us. The type of slit-like hole in space surrounded by the fuzzy haze will signify that these craft are from another dimension…

…They will attack Israel first, followed by Northern Europe and then the United States, but it will happen so quickly that it will not be possible to save Israel or Northern Europe. There will be pockets of survivors, but the countries will be devastated. Our military will engage them over the United States and we will destroy more of them than we thought possible. However, more people will die than survive.

From page 222 of I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember:

It would be another two years before I would have another vision. This vision occurred in April of 2004:

We will go to war with a humanoid alien race. It will be a worldwide war. Many people will be shipped out to fight in various parts of the world. The only way to know if loved ones are alive will be to see if their names are absent from the death lists.

I was shown that the aliens would have molted skin with rough textured complexions. They will be very aggressive toward humans. The war will seem hopeless, but we will have no other choice but to fight to defend our planet. Humans would be marginalized and will be nothing more than numbers…just bodies and fodder in the fight against these aliens.

From page 224 of I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember:

It was the despondency on her face (a female Grey alien with slightly different features than Greys usually have) and in her eyes that I cannot get out of my mind. The look in her eyes was as if she were a tortured soul crying out to save humanity. Crying for us, abductees, to save humanity.

When it comes to places like the California coast flooding, numerous people have received messages about such a possibility. On one occasion while I was meditating and in contact with my spirit guidance, I suddenly experienced myself (non-physically) on huge waves of the Pacific Ocean as they rushed towards the California coast. Next, I experienced myself standing on the California coast and saw what seemed to be solar flares shooting towards the ground. There have been a number of occasions while awake where I would be shown scenes of travails taking place on this planet. On one occasion I saw spaceships in the air, and they crashed to the ground as if they were shot down. My first interpretive response to this message was that unfriendly alien beings will be shot down and fail, but I’m not certain.

Whatever the case–and very fortunately–I have also received messages stating that in the end this world will become a wonderful place despite the difficulties we’ll have to go through. On one occasion I was shown people going through great difficulties, and then I was shown groups of very happy people dancing hand-in-hand in circles. It seemed quite clear to me that the latter part of this message meant that things will work out very well.

On another occasion I was once again shown people going through great difficulty, and then I looked up in the sky (non-physically) and saw a bright light that shined down upon this world. I could tell that this light represented the Christ light. I’m not the only person to receive messages about this world changing for the better. Near-death experiencers (NDEers) Jessica Carde, Ned Dogherty, Angie Fenimore, David Oakford, Reinee Pasarow, Ricky Randolph, George Ritchie and Howard Storm all received information, mainly during their NDEs, that in the near future this world will ascend to a higher level of being that is based on love.
(See powerpointparadise.com – N.D.E. Revelations About the Future, and
http://www.near-death.com/ - The NDE and the Future – Ken William’s research conclusions.)

As odd as this might sound, in the long run it could be good if this world goes through the predicted changes and difficulties. Our world is already going through so much difficulty and things may have reached the point where further difficulties can’t be avoided. Consider it this way: If things continue the way they are, then more generations of souls will be required to incarnate into lifetimes that not only bring suffering, but also influence many of them to develop in a negative way. When the latter happens, not only do such souls end up manifesting in a negative way in this world, they also end up going to lower realms, at least for a time, after they die. Since positive soul growth is preferred, it is unfortunate that so many souls have to take on the extended responsibility of incarnations that become negative.

On the other hand, if one generation is willing to go through a lot of turmoil and in the end, people who live according to a higher way of being survive and make this world a better place, future generations of incarnating souls will no longer have to go through such difficult incarnations. For example, rape victims and rapists, abused people and abusers, people forced into prostitution (including children) and the people who get them involved with prostitution such as pimps, people who are bullied and their bullies, people in poverty and the greedy self-centered people who don’t care, and so on.

Sure it is quite sad that people from a transitional generation will either have to suffer through a very difficult period or die; however, it is important to understand that the souls who go through such difficulty and/or die, volunteered to take on such a challenge before they incarnated. They did so partly because they wanted to do their part in making it so future generations will be much more positive than they would be if significant changes don’t take place.

Or in other words, what is better? For the status quo to continue as it is and perhaps become even worse so future generations continue to suffer, or, for people of a change-oriented generation to go through a difficult transitional period that leads to positive future generations? It is important to factor in that many people from a generation of possible great change are already going through great difficulty.

Regarding the possibility of love-based people surviving the Earth changes rather than negative-minded people, it is hard to say in a specific way how this will come to be. NDEers such as Howard Storm and Ned Dougherty wrote that divine will is going to arrange it so people who live according to love will survive rather than people who live in a negative way. There is also the factor of how people such as myself have received messages stating that loved-based people will survive.

If this approach seems insensitive to negative-minded people, all I can say is that if I were a person who did something such as abuse my children, forced people into prostitution, pushed drugs, or greedily hoarded things for myself while many other people have to do without, I would want my life to come to an end for the sake of people who are harmed by my actions and for the sake of my spiritual welfare. I make this latter point with the thought that if I was a bad person, the more I continued to live my life in a way where I harmed others, the more my soul would develop in a negative way and the more difficulty I would have to go through after I died. Plus, if somehow despite my confused and dark state of mind I was able to see the big picture, I wouldn’t want to hang around and be a person who interferes with the positive changes this world requires. It would be much better if I rejoined the spirit world, even if I ended up in a lower realm for a while.

If the viewpoint is true that some souls don’t find their way back to the light, then it becomes even more important for us to make this world a better place so incarnating into this world doesn’t continue to have such a negative effect on the souls that incarnate into it.

If you are interested in visiting an Internet site that shares Earth change-related dreams, you might want to check out:
http://www.greatdreams.com/.
This site leads to a sub-link called Dreams of Aliens and UFOS, and some of the dreams speak of possible alien invasions:
http://www.greatdreams.com/alien.htm .

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

Raven on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:11 am


I am checking this out and will comment further at a later time. If the planetary alignment between Saturn, Venus and Mercury for December 3rd, 2012 can be verified, then this will be a verification and part of the New World Cosmic Logos dispensation.


[3:28:46 PM-June 9th, 2012 +10UCT
Tonyblue: http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/2012-and-the-pyramids-at-giza/
[3:28:53 PM] Tonyblue: oh yes this could be rather fitting
[3:28:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes that is the link
[3:29:04 PM] Tonyblue: Orion is the Dragon Den in a way
[3:29:17 PM] Ishtara Raven: then down the page further he does some numerology on the patriarchs
[3:29:28 PM] Tonyblue: I have to look at the science closely, often there is much humbug in people's interpretations of the symbols
[3:29:51 PM] Tonyblue: But the planetary alignment will be important if it verifies
[3:30:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes well he is a bit wishy washy, but he did find this using an astro program and i thought it was interesting what he said about the 1952 thing, not sure on his accuracy
[3:35:41 PM] Tonyblue: Yes he thinks of himself as a Moses and we know Moses is an office and never existed as a person, but nevertheless there is some good stuff
[3:35:57 PM] Tonyblue: he is onto something like we are with the codes of the Torah
[3:36:21 PM] Tonyblue: I am interested in this alignment December 3rd
[3:36:30 PM] Tonyblue: Is this confirmed by other sources?
[3:36:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i thought he might be why i homed in on it
[3:36:44 PM] Tonyblue: This is what you might check out
[3:36:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am not sure, he says you can look with any astro program and find it
[3:37:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: all i keep finding is his stuff, i have not checked it out yet, not too good at that stuff
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p270-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#75940
[4:17:52 PM] Tonyblue: see those dates match the cosine chart pretty much exactly?
[4:17:57 PM] Tonyblue:

Charles Marcello 125 January 29, 2012 at 3:54 am

In my opening blog I mentioned Feb 4, 2012 as day to watch… I have a running hypotheses if there is an active religious cult preparing to venerate Dec 3, 2012, then according to esoteric experts they must follow certain ancient religious doctrine… if any of it is true then we should see something physical, political, or economical happen, or the process begin somehow on Feb 4, plus or minus twenty-four hours.

As an added bonus for the month of February… last year I had a dream warning me about 155 days and an earthquake. I told my wife about the dream an she suggested I mark our calendar and see what happens. Well I forgot all about it, and several days after the day to watch had passed I noticed the calendar, and dismissed the whole thing as another crazy dream. Well I’ve just learned of a 188 day cycle where people demand 4 times in a row now an earthquake 7.0 or higher has struck somewhere in world exactly 188 days apart (plus or minus 24hrs) and the next 188 day cycle could happen on March 22, 2012. So now I’m wondering if that dream was trying to explain the cycle has now changed or will change sometime in the future to a 155 day cycle. Thereby shortening this current cycle of destruction by 33 days. IF… the cycle has changed then the days to watch are Feb 18 thru the 20, with the exact date being Feb 19… March 22 minus 33 days equals February 19.

Now I’m not asking anyone to believe in any of this, for I too am extremely skeptical… however, if Feb 4 comes (plus or minus 24hrs) and no crazy physical, political, or economic news happens, and then if nothing happens on second possible date in June then this hypotheses can be thrown away forever. And if nothing happens this February 19 yet the 188 day cycle still continues… well I guess I will have to see if the cycle shortens sometime in the future by 33 days. Yet if nothing happens Feb 19 or March 22 (plus or minus 24hrs), then perhaps Dec 3 2012 is nothing more then an interesting kawinkadink… and all of my dreams equal nothing more then my subconscious trying to catalog all that I’ve read, watched and or listened to over the last several years… one things for certain however, I’m about to find out one way or another. And I figured I might as well bring you people along for the ride.

–Charles Marcello

[4:18:40 PM] Tonyblue: Feb 5th is the Uncovering of Noah's Ark
[4:18:57 PM] Tonyblue: March 20th were the triple Equinox earthquakes
[4:19:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes seems he has tapped into the timeline in an odd way
[4:20:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: what would the dec 3rd date mean though?
[4:20:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: and such an alignment
[4:22:25 PM] Tonyblue: February 19th was the minimum midpoint of the 59 dragonweeks etc coinciding with the February 8th alignment in the gnosis from January 21st and the Year of the Water Dragon and the Aquarius New Moon
[4:22:50 PM] Tonyblue: Yes he uses the Old Testament without the religion bias as a source code like Thuban does
[4:23:35 PM] Tonyblue: I will work on this I already found the December 16th 2012 correlation to Susan's December 16th, 2013 as the Mayan calibration
[4:24:33 PM] Tonyblue: Some of his numerology is a bit vague and rather general, but the 27-18-9 of course relates to 1881=1980 etc and the 1953 year is encoded in the pyramid as we have seen
[4:25:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: yeah, poor guy i almost feel bad for him because he really has no idea what he has found
[4:25:21 PM] Ishtara Raven: but he knows he has found something significant
[4:25:41 PM] Tonyblue: yes and his logic regarding the Freemasons and the ptb is also spot on imo

[4:27:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: Also, it should be noted, that planetary convergence only happens every 2,737 years, and its different for at least 2 more cycles running the program forward… and doesn’t happen again for over 28,000 YEARS if you run that program backwards in time…
[4:27:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: and is this accurate, i dont know about convergence, but conjunctions happen a lot
[4:28:25 PM] Ishtara Raven: but if he is correct it seems to have a very long cycle and indicates something with the precesion
[4:51:55 PM]Tonyblue: There are interesting critiques and comments on his linked sites, both supportive and dismissive
[4:53:47 PM] Tonyblue: Terence Mckenna, misguided Bonacci and the Golden Ratio are all addressed, as well as the vantage points to the sphinx, measuring the alignments
[4:54:09 PM] Tonyblue: Overall, his take stands the credibility tests imo and this thread and blog is CURRENT with the Venus Transit

[4:54:50 PM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.mauricecotterell.com/ he mentions this guy too
[4:57:03 PM]Tonyblue: Well he is an old source of David Wilcock and David changed his mind regarding the Cotterell calculations
[4:58:03 PM] Tonyblue: This is known as the great 'Wilcock change of mind', which he admitted genuinely I should add
[4:58:17 PM] Ishtara Raven: what will the spinx be looking at?
[5:00:21 PM] Tonyblue: The sphinx faced due West-East when it was built or constructed at the precessional midpoint at 10,802 BC
[5:00:38 PM] Tonyblue: Details are on Susan's blogs
[5:01:27 PM] Tonyblue: This is also the alignment date for the Belt of Orion and also the Dragon Constellation in Cambodia's Ankor Wat's Temple Complex.
[5:01:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: so i am guessing it will be staring into the hunab ku
[5:01:54 PM] Ishtara Raven: dark rift
[5:04:11 PM] Tonyblue: Not important, as many observation points allow this in the alignment of the solar system's ecliptic plane with the annual December solstice
[5:05:27 PM] Tonyblue: This is encoded as the 'Street of the Logos' and the Rebuilt Temple/Holy City/Sanctuary in Daniel and is known as the Kuxan Suum by the Maya as the 'Way and Journey' back to Hunab Ku as the galactic centre
[5:11:22 PM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PUxeAXQasE
[5:11:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: found this
[5:16:03 PM] Tonyblue: Good find Raven
Ishtara Raven

http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/2012-and-the-pyramids-at-giza/


Matthew 24:26-28 (KJV)

²⁶ Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

²⁷ For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

²⁸ For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.


2012 and the Pyramids at Giza…​

by Charles Marcello

I happen to be one of those people who believes nothing is going to happen in 2012. However, in order to prove that to myself, I have been studying this issue for about four years now. While studying ancient cultures I noticed that each of them had a fascination with the planets. The stars are mentioned of course, but not nearly as much as the planets. So when I saw a video a few years ago talking about Orion’s Belt being the reason why the Pyramids were built, or at least the Pyramids were built to honor Orion’s Belt… to say I did not believe that was true would be an understatement.

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I felt if the Pyramids at Giza were built to honor anything it would be a planet convergence of some kind. So when I started looking at the night sky while using the FREE online program… Stellarium… my mind was already searching for clues. I wanted to see if there was anything worth mentioning regarding planet alignments in 2012. What lead me too… or what helped me find… the picture below… I was completely taken aback by what I found. To be completely honest I never in a millions years would have thought I would actually be able to prove my theory was in fact correct. But I cannot deny, and I don’t think any honest person can deny… What will happen in the night sky over Giza and how it seems to mimic the lay out of the Pyramids at Giza, is very interesting indeed… Especially since everyone already knows the Mayan’s attached great importance to the year 2012… now that makes this discovery even more interesting and plausible… especially since… the ending and restarting of the Progression of the Equinox… (The natural wobble of the Earth that finishes a full cycle only once every 26,000 years or so…)

Whether you believe something will happen in 2012 or not, is not important… The fact is that the planetary alignment matches layout of Pyramids at Giza on 12.3.12 and this will happen just 18 days before 12.21.12. … 6 plus 6 plus 6 = 18… Even the most ardent skeptics have to admit, that is one hell’va kawinkadink indeed!!!

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Planetary alignment that will take place Dec 3, 2012 is dead-on alignment with the Pyramids at Giza. Night Sky in Giza, Egypt on December 3, 2012, local time … one hour before sunrise compared with the Pyramids at Giza. Image generated by Starry Night Pro (the same view of the planets can be obtained using any other astronomy program, e.g. Stellarium.

If you go to this link you will read about this discovery of mine. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread519207/pg2#pid7564861 … You will also notice that picture of Giza was posted by another member of that site… I posted his picture and Dec 3 2012 together… to allow you to decide for yourself. Please take a look at that picture, or if you want to do a more in-depth analysis (please download Stellarium or use any other similar software, e.g Starry Night).

Also, it should be noted, that planetary convergence only happens every 2,737 years, and its different for at least 2 more cycles running the program forward… and doesn’t happen again for over 28,000 YEARS if you run that program backwards in time…

After watching a video on the net regarding the inner chambers of the great pyramid and how they seem to point to other stars in the night sky… I decided to see what else the night sky holds/will look like on Dec 3, 2012… I believe the evidence absolutely proves that what I discovered explains that the pyramids where built to honor (or warn about) specific time marked by the planetary convergence…

Positions of planets can be used as a perfect clock. Such a clock can mark date in time (in the past and/or in the future) and can be read by inteligent beings regardless of their language and calendar they use…​

The following 3 images are presented here to confirm the “match” of the planets and the pyramids using a precise triangulation survey instead of a satellite photo (click on each image to enlarge):

Night Sky in Giza, Egypt on December 3, 2012, local time … one hour before sunrise.
Image generated by Starry Night Pro.






Image of the Night Sky in Giza, Egypt on December 3, 2012, local time … one hour before sunrise compared with the 1881 survey drawing of the Pyramids at Giza. The result is perfect match…​

If the pyramids where built to honor Orion’s belt, instead of matching a planetary convergence seen only once every 2737 years, and only matching the Giza layout every fifth cycle… then why are there no other massive monolithic structures honoring other, more pronounced, constellations throughout Egypt, or the world for that matter… Every ancient culture seems to be honoring the Planets, with just passing homage to constellations… Why would the pyramids be different? The answer, they wouldn’t be… and what’s even stranger still… If you take the three sets of three pyramid groups at Giza, and add all of the three’s by two together… meaning, group 1, group 2, group 3.… add g1 to g2, g2 to g3, and g3 to g1, you get 6 plus 6 plus 6… 18… 18 plus Dec 3, equals Dec 21, 2012…

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I have no doubt the Pyramids of Giza were built to honor an extremely rare planetary convergence. The creation story in the bible was created to tell that tale, and that, in part, is exactly what the Masons are celebrating. (Though the Pyramids are a lot older then the books of the bible.) The bad news for the Masons is, the stories they use to enhance the knowledge within each of its Masonic levels, has nothing to do with god or God, rather, it has everything to do with the science of our solar system, and planetary interactions… or more correctly, the Sun, Moon and Earth, the Hiram Key be damned. The stories in the bible, the first five books, has very little to do with God, more so then they have almost everything to do with extremely advanced ancient knowledge… that we can only recently understand and prove, that was in fact passed forward for the benefit of all mankind. The story of Moses and who he was gives great clues on how to re-read the first five books of the bible. The stories within the Mayan/Aztec cultures gives even more clues on how to understand the stories within the bible. There is still a lot more information that I firmly believe we will be able to discover throughout the world, and within other religious texts… that will either, support what I’m about to share with you, or perhaps… give more extremely ancient knowledge that the survivors (pay attention to that word) desperately felt they needed to pass forward. I could spend an incredible amount of time walking you through each level of this discovery. Yet I don’t want to ruin the journey for others. The picture proving the Pyramids at Giza do in fact match the planetary convergence that will take place one hour before sunrise on Dec 3, 2012 is presented here in order to get your attention. I’m going to allow you, YES YOU, the opportunity to learn these truths on your own. Learn what the Sphinx will be looking at on that day and until Dec 21, 2012. Learn which two planets will be dancing in the Western Sky just before sunrise in 2012… I will hint you towards the month of August. Learn which chambers some believe align to what stars/constellations from the Great Pyramid, and then discover where they will be on Dec 3, 2012 and then on Dec 21, 2012. Some of you will already know the answers, and you’re welcome. For those of you who don’t… get up off your ass and find out. For those of you who claim nothing is going to happen in 2012, you may in fact be right. The good news is, you have nothing to fear from simple people freaking out because of all the hype of 2012. The bad news is… Extremely powerful people believe in the ignorant stories passed forward by our not so distant ancestors… They deeply believe in the numbers. They deeply believe in the ancient sacrifices. They deeply believe they are in fact doing g/God’s(s) work.

• Count 144,000 days after Sept 11, 2001. You now know the amount of time we have left before they believe they must finish their work.
• Count 666 days before Dec 3, 2012 and then find out where your leaders were.
• Count June 10, 2011 to Dec 3, 2012. Count June 10 2011 to Feb 4th 2012, compare those numbers to Dec 3, 2012.
• Count how many days separate Feb 4th 2012 from June 10, 2012. Then start running the numbers and compare them to numerology, Paganist lore, and the Bible. (Notice that is the first time I’ve capitalized the world bible.)

I have in fact solved the Pyramid Mystery. It cannot be denied any longer… However, I’ve also discovered why these Paganist must stop. Your mythology is wrong. I truly wish it wasn’t but it is. If what I’ve discovered is true, you are going to suffer in ways you cannot even imagine… You will not be loved for what you are planning, you will be despised and hated by the gods…

• Compare our planet’s daily numbers to the distance of our Sun.
• Compare those numbers to ancient mythology.
• Compare the mathematical numbers to the days of the year you honor against those numbers and our solar system.
• Compare 3, 7, 21, 42, 72, 111, etc… against our planetary daily numbers and the mathematical numbers we know are true regarding our solar system.
  Compare them god damnit and open your eyes.

3³ = 9 x 3 = 27, not to mention 216 = 6x6x6 … which just happens to equal how many Sun’s you need to line up side by side to reach the Earth from the Sun. Who ever built those pyramids flew in space, period!!!
[ Editor's Note/Correction: On September 18-19 the distance of the Sun from Earth is approximately 150.336 million km, about 108 times that of the Sun’s diameter (or 216 times of the Sun’s Radius) ]

Dec 3 is exactly 18 days before Dec 21. 18days*24hrs*60min = 25,920. The Progression of the Equinox takes exactly 25,920 years.

Now learn the cycle of Dec 3, 2012. It only happens once every 2737 years… but only matches the Pyramids of Giza every 5th cycle. Yet… how many cycle does it take for that convergence to match not only the Pyramids of Giza, and then compare that to the creation story in the bible and Mason mythology. You now know why there are 33 levels… however you also learn there must be a 34th… it’s the only way they could possibly obtain balance in their order… just like you will learn the advanced mathematical, solaristic, and scientific understanding our truly ancient ancestors had to known of in order to build the pyramids the way they did, place them the way they did, and then hide all the information the way they did.


The story of Moses becomes even more incredible once you sit down and understand. All you need is your bible and the information I’ve mentioned above and you will learn so much. I could spend all day explaining this to you, destroying any chance you have of discovering all of these truths on your own. And I absolutely refuse to do so. Yet I know I cannot allow this information to go unknown for to much longer. It must be known before the end of this year, for so many reasons, if you study, you will understand completely. Read Captain Morgan’s Book. Read Your Bible. Read Maurice Cotterell’s book or watch his video’s on youtube. Watch or read Graham Hancock’s books or watch his youtube videos to understand the knowledge he and his co-authors have discovered. Then do the math I’ve mentioned above. Then research the Dec 3, 2012 and how long its been since this the last time this happened exactly 18 days before the progression of the Equinox. (if the progression of the equinox happens every 25,920 years, and that planetary convergence matches the pyramids every fifth cycle or 13,685… But can only be seen on earth every second cycle how many cycle does it take…) then Re-read the creation story. Compare the math… (1 day equals 24, 2 days equals 24 times 24, 3 days equals 24 times 24 times 24, etc etc… and then compare the stories you are told to believe regarding our earth, by both science and religions.) Compare the math… compare the stories. Compare the science… This is undeniable. UNDENIABLE!!! Later this year I’ll give you much more… Or for those who are extremely lazy… read my posts… the answers from beginning to end are there if you are smart enough to see them… Yet For now, I pass the rest of this journey onto you.

I do this to make sure the truth cannot die with me. I do this so as not to ruin or create bias as to how you, YOU, rediscover these truths on your own. The math is completely undeniable… The truth is so much more fantastic then you can imagine. And in time all the lies will be exposed and the true solutions will finally save ourselves from ourselves. The choice is yours… If you decide to begin this journey… All I will say is…

Enjoy the Ride…

Copyright by Charles Marcello


Part 2


Dec 3, 2012 planetary/pyramid convergence has another layer of intensity. Mars. The Red Pyramid (North Pyramid) mathematically matches the location of Mars in the heavens on Dec 3, 2012 in conjunction with those other three planets. So that means, four planets and four pyramids matching perfectly… that defies all accidental logic, or drastically weakens those hip shooting debunkers.

What they were trying to say with those four planets and pyramids becomes complicated. The Pyramids are a riddle that I believe I’ve cracked. Its kinda funny, a nobody from nowhere solving such a wonderful mystery seems totally ridiculous, especially in light of all the stuff I‘ve already done to completely change the world. Soon however, the whole world will have to decide (or possibly physically learn) if its true or not.

I believe the Pyramids have three different messages intertwined within them… I believe one of the three is a three dimensional mathematical equation passed forward by our truly ancient ancestors regarding our Solar System, (the great pyramid), Time (the Second Pyramid) and light (The Third Pyramid.) Still working on the significance of the Red Pyramid, though I believe I might have solved that as well. The answers are absolutely unbelievable. It seems completely ridiculous that a civilization existed in our distant past that was more advanced even then our own. But that is exactly what the math demands. Not only that, it appears the Roman Catholic Church has known this secret for a very long time. Which explains why the killed all who “believed”/taught the past differently then what they wanted the world to remember. That truth can be found hidden within the Gregorian Calendar, and within the Catholic Churches own historical writings… but I’m getting way ahead of myself.

The Mayan’s restart date begins on Dec 21, 2012. That cannot be denied, though people are coming out of the woodwork demanding its Oct 28, 2011, Dec 23/24/25, 2012… Or that it actually ended thirteen years ago or so. What people keep forgetting is Cortez and the Prophesied return of the Aztec God, that happened, to an eerie degree… exactly as it was prophesied, though not exactly as people believed it would… a lesson Jews alive right now who don‘t believe in God any more should really study when it comes to the prophetic bones and their coming future… I would explain that in more detail, but its not time for that. Right now I want to focus on some of the simple math.

Dec 21 is exactly 18 days away from Dec 3. The Catholic Church is solely responsible for those dates and the significance of the numbers hidden within. You see if I asked you how many pyramids exist at Giza the quick answer is 9. 9 plus 3 equals 12, or 12/12/12. However, if I asked you how many sixes you could create from the Pyramids at Giza the answer changes to 6, 6, 6, when added together equals 18, then when you add 18 to Dec 3 you get Dec 21, 2012. Now lets break down what the Catholic Church did on purpose.

3/12/12 equals 144. All the numbers below equal very biblical and world wide esoteric numbers.
12/12/12 equals 333 or 444.
21/12/12 equals 744.
For those who understand the significance of numerology within mystic belief systems like the Kabala, or the even darker aspects of esoteric beliefs, those dates and their mathematical importance means a great deal. Remember, it doesn’t matter if you believe this nonsense, it only matters that you understand extremely powerful people believe in this nonsense with all their heart, and at the expense of all our souls.

But that’s just the beginning. Because it was completely impossible for those who built those pyramids to know what kind of Calendar humanity would use when this important solar day happened. They hid their math inside the equation of the Pyramids… 3, 9 and 18.

• 3 days*24hours*60minutes equals 4320 * 60seconds equals 259,200
• 9 days*24hours *60 minutes equals 12,960 * 60 seconds equals 777,600
• 18days*24hours*60minutes equals 25,920 * 60seconds equals 1,555,200

The question becomes what do all of those numbers mean? Well it depends on how much you know about our planets physical and humanistic history . You see prior to circa 720 BC, the earth only had 360 days, and then something happened that added another five days to it. That is simple verifiable truth that existed all over the world, from the Mayan, Egyptian, to ancient Chinese cultures. There are many more I could mention, however I keep this list small in my attempt to keep this post short… if you study each of those cultures, search out what they say happened 2733 years ago. Once you do, the riddle for Mars hidden within the Pyramids begins to show itself.

• 4,320 / 360 equals 12 while 259,200 / 360 equals 720.
• 12,960 / 360 equals 36 while 777,600 / 360 equals 2160.
• 25,920 equals 72 while 1,555,200 / 360 equals 4,320

I could walk you through each of these numbers explaining just how wonderful they each are… instead I will skip ahead and give you the answers so you can search to see if they’re true or not.

• 25,920 years equals how many years our truly ancient ancestors demanded it took one cycle of the Progression of the Equinox to complete.
• 2160 years is how many years it takes for our planet to move from one Constellation into another.
• 72 equals a mathematical equation for our Sun. (that will be explained at some later date.)
• While 720 equals how many earth days it takes Mars to complete one ecliptic cycle around the Sun.
• 777,600 and 4,320 I’m going to leave for those who understand the next step to prove to themselves just how much our truly ancient ancestors understood. Its mind boggling.

Even though the information above is interesting, some may say damn interesting… there is so much more… so much more to be revealed…
If you decide to skip ahead and seek the rest of this riddle on your own… I have three words for you!!!… Enjoy The Ride…

–Charles Marcello


Part 3


In my opening post I had said I have spent years researching 2012 and what every culture has to say about it… even though I’m not fully convinced anything is going to happen, even though I must admit weird stuff is happening all over the world… what would a 2012 blog be without ancient/modern Paganist numerology.

As I said in my opening post knowing the story of who Moses is, or might have been, and then comparing Mayans/Aztec science/belief systems gave me great clues as to finding some hidden truth (?) within the bible and many other belief systems… and maybe these numbers proves extremely powerful people believe in these ancient teaching/possibly misunderstood numerology.

Trying to solve why the Catholic Church created a new calendar with so many esoteric/Paganist numerology hidden in plain sight for the year 2012, forced me to try to understand the why.

Dec 3, 2012 equals 3,12, 12, or 144 (when you divide each number by 3).
Dec 12, 2012 equals 12, 12,12 or 333 / 444 (when you divide each number by 4 or 3). .
While Dec 21, 2012 equals 21, 12, 12 or 744 (when you divide each number by 3).

So that’s 144, 333/444, and 744.

144+744 = 888
144+33 = 477, and 144+444= 588
333+744= 1077 and 444+744= 1188.
744+144+444= 1332.
While 744+144+333= 1221.

We are told by some researchers that the Mayans calendar is 5125 years long, mathematically I could not get that to make sense, because of how they venerated Venus’ 13 cycles every 8 years… let alone it did not seem to match other ancient cultural “numbers”… however if you take the year 5184 years from the 144,000/666 that is found all over the world the math begins to match up perfectly…

5184/8= 648

5184 equals 18, 5184/6864 equals 18… and 648 is exactly 18 short of 666, and 864 minus 666 equald 198 that also equals 18… While if you add 3 5184 = 5187/13 = 399 (does that mean from 2015 we only have one cycle left?)

Now comes the Jewish Calendar…(btw I strongly recommend everyone research what will happen in 2011 on Jewish holidays, by both the Moon/Sun… and then which mystic constellations will honor other Jewish holidays this year as well… and what ancient legends say about those kinds of mystical symbology… oh and don’t forget Revelations).. I will hint you towards eclipses and then June 8 and September 28 of 2011.) Now let’s look at those Jewish numbers

September 28/29 2011/12 equals the start of the Jewish New Year 5772, while 2017/2018 equals 5778.

5772/13= 444
5778 is exactly 222 short of 6000.
While 5772+4 = 5776/8 =722 and 5778/6 = 963 when added together equals 18.

(Mayans/Aztec 2012/15/18 & Jewish 2012/16/18 while the Catholic Calendar equals 2012/15/18.)

But this is just the beginning…

In my opening post I asked you to count 144,000 days after 9/11.

144,000/24 = 6000/360 = 16.666 or 6000/365 = 16.438 …
16.6 or 16.4 + 9/11/2001 equals ?/??/ 2018.
And don’t forget…144,000/360 = 400.



And now the Bible/Torah


Genesis Chapter 11
Chapter 11 Overview: Genesis Chapter 11 is a summary of history from the end of the flood to the time of Abraham. There are several significant events here. (1) The first attempt to create a one-world system is attempted by man and aborted by God at Babel. Also the actual cause of the dispersion of nationalities is found. (2) The continued lineage of the godly seed is noted in tracing the line of Christ to Abraham. (3) A few details of the life and heritage of Abraham are provided.
11:10 This is the history of the generations of Shem. Shem was one hundred years old, and became the father of Arpachshad two years after the flood.
11:11 Shem lived after he became the father of Arpachshad five hundred years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:12 Arpachshad lived thirty-five years, and became the father of Shelah.
11:13 Arpachshad lived after he became the father of Shelah four hundred three years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:14 Shelah lived thirty years, and became the father of Eber:
11:15 and Shelah lived after he became the father of Eber four hundred three years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:16 Eber lived thirty-four years, and became the father of Peleg.
11:17 Eber lived after he became the father of Peleg four hundred thirty years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:18 Peleg lived thirty years, and became the father of Reu.
11:19 Peleg lived after he became the father of Reu two hundred nine years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:20 Reu lived thirty-two years, and became the father of Serug.
11:21 Reu lived after he became the father of Serug two hundred seven years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:22 Serug lived thirty years, and became the father of Nahor.
11:23 Serug lived after he became the father of Nahor two hundred years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:24 Nahor lived twenty-nine years, and became the father of Terah.
11:25 Nahor lived after he became the father of Terah one hundred nineteen years, and became the father of sons and daughters.
11:26 Terah lived seventy years, and became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
11:27 Now this is the history of the generations of Terah. Terah became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran. Haran became the father of Lot.
11:28 Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his birth, in Ur of the Chaldees.
11:29 Abram and Nahor took wives. The name of Abram’s wife was Sarai, and the name of Nahor’s wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran who was also the father of Iscah.
11:30 Sarai was barren. She had no child.
11:31 Terah took Abram his son, Lot the son of Haran, his son’s son, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram’s wife. They went forth from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan. They came to Haran, and lived there.
11:32 The days of Terah were two hundred five years. Terah died in Haran.

Numbers From Genesis Chapter 11

Names	Age First Son (AFS)	Years Lives AFS	Age at Death
Shem	100	500	600
Arphaxed	35	403	438
Salah	30	403	433
Eber	34	430	464
Peleg	30	209	239
Reu	32	207	239
Serug	30	200	230
Nahor	29	119	148
Terah	70	135	205
Sub Total	390	2606	2996
W/O Shem	290	2106	2396
W/O Terah	220	1971	2191
Subtract Duel/Triple Ages	300	1800	2518

Subtract Terah/Shem and Duel Date from total age [ 2996-600-205-239] and you get 1952

Add 666 to 390 and 290 and you will get respectively 1056 and 956
When you add those numbers together you get… 2012!

Why is any of this important? I don’t know, to be honest I struggle with the why, for the simple reason… I don’t believe in this nonsense… however, the reason we should all pay attention is millions/billions of people, to one degree or another, around the world do believe in numbers. I must admit my world view does not allow me to subscribe to numerology, or esoteric beliefs. I am working on opening up my mind to the possibilities. With that disclaimer out of the way.

Do those numbers explain why every single religion on our planet is expecting/awaiting their version of a Messiah to return here in the near future? And if we start paying attention to what our leaders in politics and businesses are doing… could it explain what these extremely powerful people are up to… or perhaps it will prove what they know for a fact is happening and/or coming? Even if you’re like me and you reject all those numbers as misunderstood science… I don’t think anyone can deny we live in incredibly exciting times. Yet most people have no idea why.

If you understand world prophecy… biblical, Mayans/Aztec, Egyptian/Vedic/Nordic/Native/Delphi/Shipton/Casey… the question becomes are their prophecies regional only? Or do they all combine to equal one moment in time? And/Or are the gods who have promised to return physical or spiritual and only the extremely powerful know the truth?

I honestly don’t know what the truth is, other then I believe its possible, possible, powerful people believe something is coming… but I sure as hell don’t believe in no physical gods. Yet I realize it ain’t important what I believe, its only important if we can discover do extremely powerful people believe something IS coming? BTW, I have my own possible theories yet I have zero intention of discussing what “they” think is/could be coming. The internet is alive with those threads/blogs, feel free to take this information with you or create a thread under the forums area.

My next post will discuss the extreme mathematical and scientific understanding the builders of those Pyramids did in fact pass forward, and how it could all tie into the numbers above and why our not so distant ancient ancestors got it all wrong… both spiritually and scientifically.

Part 4

Everyone knows we live within a three dimensional universe, and that time equals the fourth dimension. While at the same time just about everyone has heard of E=MC²…the thing is, the Pyramids of Giza has both of those truths intertwined within their legends and their physical makeup.
What is a four sided pyramid? The quick smart-aleck answer is, it’s a four sided pyramid. While the other answer equals, a four sided pyramid is one sixth of a cube, or a box, or a perhaps the misunderstood science called a cubit. If that is true… and it is mathematically true… then what are those pyramids trying to say? Well, Graham Hancock and Robert Duval were able to answer some of those questions… I believe in their quest to be unique they still wanted to be accepted by mainstream Egyptologists, so they only allowed their uniqueness to go so far. I on the other hand don’t care if someone calls me a liar, or if someone else is annoyed I used the bible to make point, or any other derogatory names people can invent. I didn’t start this journey worried about how others were going to receive the truth. All I demanded was the truth. All I continually search for is the truth.


–Charles Marcello​

 

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• Post n°285

Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

Raven on Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:40 pm



[5:35:59 PM - Wednesday, June 6th, 2012]
Ishtara Raven: And nasa said that venus is moving to a morning star in this transit seems even more significant
Lol mindblend, as I was thinking of prophecy

[5:37:42 PM] Tonyblue: This is the fulfilment. It was the symbol of Jesus in this transit; wait.
[5:38:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: Yes; oh wow. Yes to me this transit symbolized a new dawn a new sun in a new world
[5:40:17 PM] Tonyblue: This was it in the metaphysics of the new laws and the reconfiguration of the cosmology of the origins.
It is the 'Sign of the SON OF MAN=97=SERPENT=PRESENT=REPENTS=CIRCLE OF GOD'
Because it REMEMBERS the past occurrences of 7BC to 31AD as the 'remembrance of the World Logos'.

Revelation 9 (KJV)
¹And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
² And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
³ And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
⁴ And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
⁵ And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
⁶ And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
⁷ And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
⁸ And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
⁹ And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
¹⁰ And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
¹¹ And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
¹² One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
¹³ And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
¹⁴ Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

¹⁵ And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

¹⁶ And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
¹⁷ And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
¹⁸ By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
¹⁹ For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
²⁰ And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
²¹ Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.


The first Seven Timeloops are defined in: 7x(2300+370)=7x(1335+1335)=18,690 days or 2670 weeks with 2670=2300+370=1335+1335 days for each of the 8 warptime loops

Begin Loops for 1/3 Outer & 2/3 Inner Temple	07Oct1953	0/0	Begin 1/3 Inner & 2/3 Outer Temple	12 Sep1975	0/0
1/6th of Outer Temple	26Dec1954	445/445	xxx	27Jul1980	1780/1780
1/6th of Mirror Warp Loop/Inner Temple	15Mar1956	445/890	445	11Jun1985	1780/3560
1/6th of Mirror Warp Loop/Inner Temple	03Jun1957	445/1335	445	26Apr1990	1780/5340
MIDPOINT of the 1st Mirror Warp Loop	04Jun1957	1/1336	445	27Apr1990	1/5341
1/6th of Mirror Warp Loop/Inner Temple	22Aug1958	444/1780	xxx	11Mar1995	1779/7120
1/6th of Mirror Warp Loop/Inner Temple	10Nov1959	445/2225	xxx	24Jan2000	1780/8900
1/6th of Outer Temple; End 1st Template Loop	28Jan1961	445/2670	End 8th Loop to begin Warpzone	08Dec2004	1780/10680

Day#0=Fri, 07Oct28BC = Wed, 07Oct1953 = Initialisation of the Timewarploops = Bound#0
Day#1=Sat, 08Oct28BC = Thu, 08Oct1953 = Begin 1st Timewarploop
...
Day#1335=Wed, 03Jun24BC = Mon, 03Jun1957 = Lower Midpoint #1
Day#1336=Thu, 04Jun24BC = Tue, 04Jun1957 = Upper Midpoint #1
...
...

December 1959
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Day#2670=Mon, 28Jan20BC = Sat, 28Jan1961 = End 1st Timewarploop = Bound#1
Day#2671=Tue, 29Jan20BC = Sun, 29Jan1961 = Begin 2nd Timewarploop
...
Day#4005=Sat, 24Sep17BC = Thu, 24Sep1964 = Lower Midpoint #2
Day#4006=Sun, 25Sep17BC = Fri, 25Sep1964 = Upper Midpoint #2
...
Day#5340=Thu, 21May13BC = Tue, 21May1968 = End 2nd Timewarploop = Bound#2
Day#5341=Fri, 22May13BC = Wed, 22May1968 = Begin 3rd Timewarploop
...
Day#6675=Tue, 16Jan9BC = Sun, 16Jan1972 = Lower Midpoint #3
Day#6676=Wed, 17Jan9BC = Mon, 17Jan1972 = Upper Midpoint #3
...
...
Day#7940/-#70=Sat, 04Jul7BC = Fri04Jul1975 = INDEPENDENCE MIRROR Inner→Outer
...
Day#8010/#0=Sat, 12Sep7BC = Fri, 12Sep1975 = End 3rd Timewarploop = Bound#3
=Lower Bound for the Logos Mirror as the ZION MIRROR INNER
Day#8011/#1=Sun, 13Sep7BC = Sat, 13Sep1975 = Begin 4th Timewarploop
...
Day#8025/#15=Sun, 27Sep7BC = Sat, 27Sep1975 = 15th Day of 64 and 266 and of 12,000 15
...
Day#8030/#20=Fri, 02Oct7BC = Thu, 02Oct1975 = 21st day as 3 week nexus as GABRIEL MIRROR, encoded in Daniel.10.2,13 as the Zion Mirror Boundary
...
Day#8074/#64=Sun, 15Nov7BC = Sat, 15Nov1975 = LOGOS MIRROR of the COSMIC LOVE
Day#8075/#65=Mon, 16Nov7BC = Sun, 16Nov1975
=Upper Bound for the Logos Mirror as the ZION MIRROR INNER
...
Day#8081/#71=Sun, 22Nov7BC = Sat, 22Nov1975 = Day of Ophiuchus 1975
...
Day#8108/#98=Sat, 19Dec7BC = Fri, 19Dec1975 = Mirror of the Midpoint Release
in 70+1+64+33+{1}+33+64+1+70=337=71+266 days as 48=24+24 weeks and 64=15+5+44=15+49
...
Day#8141/#131=Thu, 21Jan6BC = Wed, 21Jan1976
...
Day#8185/#175=Fri, 05Mar6BC = Fri, 05Mar1976
Day#8186/#176=Sat, 06Mar6BC = Sat, 06Mar1976 = 20th day image of 21 day GABRIEL MIRROR
...


Day#8203/#193 = Tue,23Mar6BC = Tue, 23Mar1976 = Tue, 21Mar6BC in the Gregorian Proleptic Calendar Projection and as encoded in Daniel.10.2 as the Equinox Birth of the World Logos at the River Hiddekel
Day#8204/#194 = Wed,24Mar6BC = Wed, 24Mar1976 = Wed, 22Mar6BC in the Gregorian Proleptic Calendar Projection and as encoded in Daniel.10.2 as the Equinox Birth of the World Logos at the River Hiddekel
Day#8205/#195 = Thu,25Mar6BC = Thu, 25Mar1976 = Thu, 23Mar6BC in the Gregorian Proleptic Calendar Projection and as encoded in Daniel.10.2 as the Equinox Birth of the World Logos at the River Hiddekel
Day#8206/#196 = Fri,26Mar6BC = Fri, 26Mar1976 = Fri, 24Mar6BC in the Gregorian Proleptic Calender Projection and as encoded in Daniel.10.2 as the 2 day shifted Equinox Birth of the World Logos at the River Hiddekel = INDEPENDENCE MIRROR Outer→Inner
...
Day#8276/#266=Fri, 04Jun6BC = Fri, 04Jun1976 = ANTILOGOS MIRROR of the COSMIC BEAST

...
Day#9345=Fri, 09May2BC = Wed, 09May1979 = Lower Midpoint #4
Day#9346=Sat, 10May2BC = Thu, 10May1979 = Upper Midpoint #4
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Day#10680=Wed, 03Jan3AD = Mon, 03Jan1983 = End 4th Timewarploop = Bound#4
Day#10681=Thu, 04Jan3AD = Tue, 04Jan1983 = Begin 5th Timewarploop
...
Mar241985
Mar30
Apr1
May15?1985
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Day#12015=Mon, 30Aug6AD = Sat, 30Aug1986 = Lower Midpoint #5
Day#12016=Tue, 31Aug6AD = Sun, 31Aug1986 = Upper Midpoint #5
...
Day#13350=Sat, 26Apr10AD = Thu, 26Apr1990 = End 5th Timewarploop = Bound#5
Day#13351=Sun, 27Apr10AD = Fri, 27Apr1990 = Begin 6th Timewarploop
...
Day#14685=Thu, 21Dec13AD = Tue, 21Dec1993 = Lower Midpoint #6
Day#14686=Fri, 22Dec13AD = Wed, 22Dec1993 = Upper Midpoint #6
...
...
Mar24
Mar28
Apr011995
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Day#16020=Tue, 17Aug17AD = Sun, 17Aug1997 = End 6th Timewarploop = Bound#6
Day#16021=Wed, 18Aug17AD = Mon, 18Aug1997 = Begin 7rd Timewarploop
...
Day#17355=Sun, 13Apr21AD = Fri, 13Apr2001 = Lower Midpoint #7
Day#17356=Mon, 14Apr21AD = Sat, 14Apr2001 = Upper Midpoint #7
...
Day#18690=Fri, 08Dec24AD = Wed, 08Dec2004 = End 7th Timewarploop = Bound#7
Day#18691=Sat, 09Dec24AD = Thu, 09Dec2004 = Begin 8th Timewarploop
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Day#20025=Wed, 04Aug28AD = Mon, 04Aug2008 = Lower Midpoint #8
The Completion of the Inner Temple of 12,000 'furlong units' of Revelation.21.16-17
Day#8010+15+12,000=#20,025
Day#20026=Thu, 05Aug28AD = Tue, 05Aug2008 = Upper Midpoint #8
First Day for the Building of the Outer City Temple in the 'winepress of 1600 furlong units' of Revelation.14.20
Day#20025+1600=#21,625
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Day#20988=Sun, 25Mar31AD = Fri, 25Mar2011 = Palm Sunday 31AD
Day#20991=Wed, 28Mar31AD = Mon, 28Mar2011 = Passion Wednesday 31AD in 370 days from the end of the final warptime loop #8 in Day#20,990+370=Day#21,360
Day#20995=Sun, 01Apr31AD = Fri, 01Apr2011 = Easter Sunday 31AD
Day#21034=Thu, 10May31AD = Tue, 10May2011 = Ascension Thursday 31AD
Day#21044=Sun, 20May31AD = Fri, 20May2011 = Whit-Pentecost Sunday 31AD
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Day#21290/#-70=Mon, 21Jan32AD = Sat, 21Jan2012 = Gnosis Event
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Day#21360/#0=Mon, 31Mar32AD = Sat, 31Mar2012 = End 8th Timewarploop = Bound#8
Day#21361/#1=Tue, 01Apr32AD = Sun, 01Apr2012 = Begin Cosmic Gestation in Insemination
=Lower Bound for the ZION MIRROR OUTER
Day#21362/#2=Wed, 02Apr32AD = Mon, 02Apr2012 = Outer manifestation of the city temple as 64=49+15 days bounded in Day#1 and Day#66
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Day#21410/#50=Tue, 20May32AD = Sun, 20May2012 =
...
Day#21425/#65=Wed, 04Jun32AD = Mon, 04Jun2012 =
Day#21426/#66=Thu, 05Jun32AD = Tue, 05Jun2012
=Upper Bound for the ZION MIRROR OUTER
...
Day#
Day#
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Day#21625/#265=Sun, 21Dec32AD = Fri, 21Dec2012 = Completion of the Outer City in the Winepress as the end of the 1600 days
Day#21626/#266=Mon, 22Dec32AD = Sat, 22Dec2012
Day#21627=Tue, 23Dec32AD = Sun, 23DCec2012 = Bound#0*

Day {Julian=J/ Proleptic Gregorian=G}	6BC{J/G}	31AD{J/G}	32AD{J/G}	1976	1985	1995	2011	2012	2013
March 23rd/21st	Tue/Thu	Fri/Palm Sun	Sun/Tue	Tuesday	Saturday	Thursday	Wednesday	Friday	Saturday
March 24th/22nd	Wed/Fri	Sat/Palm Mon	Mon/Wed	Wednesday	Sunday	Friday	Thursday	Saturday	Palm Sun
March 25th/23rd	Thu/Sat	Palm Sun/Seder Tue	Tue/Thu	Thursday	Monday	Saturday	Friday	Sunday	Palm Mon
March 26th/24th	Fri/Sun	Palm Mon/Pass Wed	Wed/Fri	Friday	Tuesday	Sunday	Saturday	Monday	Seder Tue
March 27th	Sat/Mon	Seder Tue/Supper Thu	Thu/Sat	Saturday	Wednesday	Monday	Sunday	Tuesday	Pass Wed
March 28th	Sun/Tue	Pass Wed/Good Fri	Fri/Sun	Sunday	Thursday	Tuesday	Monday	Wednesday	Supper Thu
March 29th	Mon/Wed	Supper Thu/Easter Sat	Sat/Mon	Monday	Friday	Wednesday	Tuesday	Thursday	Good Fri
March 30th	Tue/Thu	Good Fri/Easter Sun	Sun/Tue	Tuesday	Saturday	Thursday	Wednesday	Friday	Easter Sat
March 31st	Wed/Fri	Easter Sat/Mon	Mon/Wed	Wednesday	Palm Sun	Friday	Thursday	Saturday	Easter Sun
April 1st	Thu/Sat	Easter Sun/Tue	Tue/Thu	Thursday	Palm Mon	Saturday	Friday	Palm Sun	Monday
April 6th	Tue/Thu	Fri/Sun	Sun/Tue	Tuesday	Easter Sat	Thursday	Wednesday	Good Fri	Saturday
April 7th	Wed/Fri	Sat/Mon	Mon/Wed	Wednesday	Easter Sun	Friday	Thursday	Easter Sat	Sunday
April 8th	Thu/Sat	Sun/Tue	Tue/Thu	Thursday	Monday	Saturday	Friday	Easter Sun	Monday
April 9th	Fri/Sun	Mon/Wed	Wed/Fri	Friday	Tuesday	Palm Sun	Saturday	Monday	Tuesday
April 11th	Sun/Tue	Wed/Fri	Fri/Palm Sun	Palm Sun	Thursday	Seder Tue	Monday	Wednesday	Thursday
April 13th	Tue/Thu	Fri/Sun	Palm Sun/Seder Tue	Seder Tue	Saturday	Supper Thu	Wednesday	Friday	Saturday
April 16th	Fri/Sun	Mon/Wed	Pass Wed/Good Fri	Good Fri	Tuesday	Easter Sun	Saturday	Monday	Tuesday
April 17th	Sat/Mon	Tue/Thu	Supper Thu/Easter Sat	Saturday	Wednesday	Monday	Palm Sun	Tuesday	Wednesday
April 18th	Sun/Tue	Wed/Fri	Good Fri/Easter Sun	Easter Sun	Thursday	Tuesday	Palm Mon	Wednesday	Thursday
April 20th	Tue/Thu	Fri/Sun	Easter Sun/Tue	Tuesday	Saturday	Thursday	Pass Wed	Friday	Saturday
April 24th	Sat/Mon	Tue/Thu	Thu/Sat	Saturday	Wednesday	Monday	Easter Sun	Tuesday	Wednesday
April 30th	Fri/Sun	Mon/Wed	Wed/Fri	Friday	Tuesday	Sunday	Saturday	Monday	Tuesday
May 1st	Sat/Mon	Tue/Thu	Thu/Sat	Saturday	Wednesday	Monday	Sunday	Tuesday	Wednesday
May 8th	Sat/Mon	Tue/Ascent Thu	Thu/Sat	Saturday	Wednesday	Monday	Sunday	Tuesday	Wednesday
May 9th	Sun/Tue	Wed/Fri	Fri/Sun	Sunday	Thursday	Tuesday	Monday	Wednesday	Ascent Thu
May 10th	Mon/Wed	Ascent Thu/Sat	Sat/Mon	Monday	Friday	Wednesday	Tuesday	Thursday	Friday
May 16th	Sun/Tue	Wed/Fri	Fri/Sun	Sunday	Ascent Thu	Tuesday	Monday	Wednesday	Thursday
May17th	Mon/Wed	Thu/Sat	Sat/Mon	Monday	Friday	Wednesday	Tuesday	Ascent Thu	Friday
May 18th	Tue/Thu	Fri/Whit Sun	Sun/Tue	Tuesday	Saturday	Thursday	Wednesday	Friday	Saturday
May 19th	Wed/Fri	Sat/Mon	Mon/Wed	Wednesday	Sunday	Friday	Thursday	Saturday	Whit Sun
May 20th	Thu/Sat	Whit Sun/Tue	Tue/Thu	Thursday	Monday	Saturday	Friday	Sunday	Monday
May 25th	Tue/Thu	Fri/Sun	Sun/Tue	Tuesday	Saturday	Ascent Thu	Wednesday	Friday	Saturday
May 26th	Wed/Fri	Sat/Mon	Mon/Wed	Wednesday	Whit Sun	Friday	Thursday	Saturday	Sunday
May 27th	Thu/Sat	Sun/Tue	Tue/Ascent Thu	Ascent Thu	Monday	Saturday	Friday	Whit Sun	Monday
May 29th	Sat/Mon	Tue/Thu	Ascent Thu/Sat	Saturday	Wednesday	Monday	Sunday	Tuesday	Wednesday
June 2nd	Wed/Fri	Sat/Mon	Mon/Wed	Wednesday	Sunday	Friday	Ascent Thu	Saturday	Sunday
June 4th	Fri/Sun	Mon/Wed	Wed/Fri	Friday	Tuesday	Whit Sun	Saturday	Monday	Tuesday
June 6th	Sun/Tue	Wed/Fri	Fri/Whit Sun	Whit Sun	Thursday	Tuesday	Monday	Wednesday	Thursday
June 8th	Tue/Thu	Fri/Sun	Whit Sun/Tue	Tuesday	Saturday	Thursday	Wednesday	Friday	Saturday
June 12th	Sat/Mon	Tue/Thu	Thu/Sat	Saturday	Wednesday	Monday	Whit Sun	Tuesday	Wednesday
May 20th

THE BUILDING OF ZION=64 in the WARPING ENDTIMES from 28BC to 2013

64=ISRAEL=CHARDRAHC=CH.AUARA.CH=PETER=CELL+LIFE=32+32 ​

The Julian timeperiod from Friday, October 7th, 28BC to Saturday, July 4th, 7BC to Friday, June 4th, 6BC to Wednesday, August 4th, 6BC to Thursday, December 23rd, 6BC becomes the lower boundary for a 36 year period upper bounded in the 397 days from Tuesday, July 4th 30AD to Monday, June 4th, 31AD to Saturday, August 4th, 31AD to Sunday, December 23rd, 31AD.

This is 'timewarped' in 1980=36x55 years into the Gregorian timeperiod from Wednesday, October 7th, 1953 to Friday July 4th, 1975 to Friday, June 4th, 1976 to Wednesday, August 4th, 1976 to Thursday, December 23rd, 1976 as the lower warped boundary which is upper bounded in the timespan from Monday, July 4th, 2011 to Monday, June 4th, 2012 to Saturday, August 4th, 2012 to Sunday, December 23rd, 2012
The 55=HEAVEN=SKY=CLOUD=SONG=SATAN=A LOVE=1+ 54=A DECODER=A SUN=A GABRIEL=A NAVIGA=A VAGINA 36 year cycles so are defined in one such 36=LAW cycle of the 54=LOVE encoding in the gematrias of the applied alphanumeracy.


The years 7BC and 6BC with 30AD and 31AD and now 1975/76 and 2011/12 manifest something that was encoded to become manifest in the physical universe from a metaphysical precursor.

36 years 36 years = 72 years, with 72 as say a geometrical pentagon partition of the circle in 360/5=72 degrees.

Symbols for this can be found everywhere, including the precession of the earth in this starsystem and so the 26,000 year history of the human genotype in the universe.
As the sun's angular size is 0.53 degrees, it will take about 72 'civil years' for 1 Degree to become transversed and 'energy transmitted'.

Ergo the changing from one age into the other will occur in a 36 year period, which is here decoded and specified as being from 7/6BC to 30/31AD and mirrored or mapped in the timespan from 1975/1976 to 2011/2012


The timeperiods from July 4th to June 4th to August 4th for a 'civil leap-year' of 366 days so is supplemented in a month of 30 days and a day for 365+30+1=396 days and counting the boundary days of 'Independence Day' July 4th and 'Blessing Day' of August 4th in a cosmic logistical sense, defines 4 warptime periods, each of 397 days and precisely 36 years apart in the 'lifetimes' of the Cosmic Logos and warpedonto the 'End of the World' in a shift of 1980=1+(8+1)+8+0=1+8+8+1 years.

Fire and water shall wonders do,
England shall at last admit a foe.
The world to an end shall come,
In eighteen hundred and eighty one."

Mother Shipton ​

The partitioned warptimeline for the 396+1=397 days is defined in the Reconstruction of the ZION=64=ISRAEL in the symbol of a TEMPLE=71 OF=21 SOLOMON=103 =71+124=195 in divers decodings and including:

124=COMPASSION = I LOVE YOU=9+54+61 with 195=MOTHER OF I AM THAT I AM = TAURUS OF NEPTUNE = MOTHER OF EXCALIBUR = MOTHER OF SCORPIO and SOLOMON=103=RABED CHAPEL OM=FATHER CHAPEL=USE SCIENCE=STARUSE=PEACE IS CHAPEL=MAN USE BIBLE=OM USE EAGLE=WE USE BREAD

This reconstruction of the Old Cosmic metaphysical creation in symbols, archetypes and memeplexes of energy 'gestalts' or 'merkabah forms' becomes reconfigured in the cosmic gestations or 'world pregnancies' of the 337=1+70+266=1+70+196+70=1+70+{71+54+71}+70=71+71+{26+1+26}+71+71=142+53+142 days with added codes 26+26=GOD DOG=52=EARTH=HEART=DEVIL=FINANCE=PRIDE=LIVED and 53=DEBORAH=HAROBED=52+1=54-1=LOVE-1 with 124=I LOVE YOU=COMPASSION=OF SOLOMON

This expands as the daycount:
71+71+24+71={7+49+15}+{15+49+7}+{53}+{7+15+49}+{7+49+15}=
={49+15+7}+{15+49+7}+{777515777}+{7+15+49}+{7+49+15}=71+71+21+11+21+71+71


{July 4th}+70{September 12th}+15{September 27th}+49{November 15th}+7{November 22nd}+7{November 29th}+7{December 6th}+7{December 13th}+5{December 18th}+1{December 19th}+5{December 24th}+7{December 31st}+14{January 14th}+7{January 21st}+15{February 5th}+49{March 25th}+7{April 1st}+49{May 20th}+15{June 4th}

The Building of the Temple is so defined in the 64=49+15=15+49 day count as 7 weeks 1 hour in the proportion 15x24=1x360 or 360/24=Degree year days/Hours in a day=15/1
1 Year + 1 Month + 1 Day + 1 Hour = 365+30+1=397=337+60=30+337+30 days

June 4th in the leap-year so adds 30 days as the month to complete the 'full year' begun on July 4th of the non leap-year and then adds 31 days to end the timelines on August 4th of the leap-year as the mirror boundary to July 4th of the non leap-year as July 4th 366+31 days = August 4th.

As the Gestation period from September 12th to June 4th is mirrored in the Cosmic Pregnancy from April 1st to December 21st as 265 days in a leap-year; adding the boundary days in a 267 day gestation defines December 23rd as a new endday for the extended timeline from March 31st/Apr 1st to June 4th/5th to December 21st/22nd for two encompassing initializing days as October 7th 28BC and October 7th, 1953 as 0-counts mirrored in December 23rd.

Adding 360 degree days to the Cosmic Birthday of December 21st, 2012 aligns and calibrates all calendrical systems in the 13 Ahau 18 Mac longcount 13.0.1.0.0 and as Gregorian date Monday, December 16th, 2013.

As one loop is comprised of 2670 days, the gestation period of 267 days represents one tenth of a loop decoding the 'fallen tenth of the c and the 'ending of the mystery of God' in the 7th trumpet of Revelation.11.13-19.

70 day-years of 'captivity' encoded in scriptures, so become 60 10=70 days with 10 days of 'imprisonment' encoded in Revelation.2.10 and as the difference between the 40 dayyears in the 'wilderness' and the temptations and the ascension to the 50 days as 7 weeks between Easter Sunday of the Resurrection and Whit Sunday of the Pentecost.



Revelation 9 (KJV)
¹And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
² And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
³ And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
⁴ And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
⁵ And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
⁶ And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
⁷ And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
⁸ And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
⁹ And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
¹⁰ And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
¹¹ And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
¹² One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
¹³ And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
¹⁴ Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

¹⁵ And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

¹⁶ And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
¹⁷ And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
¹⁸ By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
¹⁹ For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
²⁰ And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
²¹ Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Revelation 11
¹And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
² But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
³ And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
⁴ These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
⁵ And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
⁶ These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
⁷ And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
⁸ And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
⁹ And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
¹⁰ And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
¹¹ And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
¹² And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

¹³ And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

¹⁴The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
¹⁵ And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
¹⁶ And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
¹⁷ Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
¹⁸ And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
¹⁹ And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Revelation 10
¹And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
² And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
³ And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
⁴ And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
⁵ And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
⁶ And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:


⁷ But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

⁸ And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
⁹ And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
¹⁰ And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
¹¹ And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

Daniel 9:2
In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

Jeremiah 29:10
For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.

Isaiah 23:15
And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.

Revelation 2:8-10
⁸ And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
⁹ I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
¹⁰ Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Amos 5:8
Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:

Revelation 2:28
And I will give him the morning star.

Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Nehemiah 4:21
So we laboured in the work: and half of them held the spears from the rising of the morning till the stars appeared.

Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

2 Peter 1:19
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star
arise in your hearts:

Revelation 8:12
And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?



Gospel of Thomas (Lambdin)
(4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."

266+7=266=539=266+3½+3½+266=269+1+269=71+128+70+1+70+128+71
=1+70+64+64+70+1+70+64+64+70+1=





265+7+265=537=265+3½+3½+265=268+1+268=71+64+130+7+130+64+71
=1+70+64+70+60+7+60+70+64+70+1=

The Daughter of God

A Creation of the New Eve from the New Adam
The Creation of the Worlds by the Word of God Revisited​

1. The Creator God is polarity neutral and so is defined in a -1+1=0 cosmogenetic template or blueprint.

2. The Creation becomes manifested from this polarity neutralisation in a halving of the original template as -½+½=0=+½-½.
This allows the symbolic FatherMother=0=1=∞=Infinity to separate into a Creator Father and a Creation Mother, denoted by a (-)Mind(-)Body for a symbolic maleness and a (+)Mind(+)Body for a templated Femaleness.

3. A 'Firmament' or multidimensional Mirror becomes defined in the 'split' between an abstract 'Heaven' and an abstract 'Earth'; allowing however for a physical creation to crystallise from this abstract mathematical, yet 'spiritually' energized reality matrix. The notion of 'spiritual energy' then is redefined in new assignment parameters from the material creation, following its appropriate evolvement and development as a multidimensional spacetime matrix of the omniphysicality.

4. The 'first man' Adam represents the 'perfect image' of God, the Creator Father in a (-)Mind(-)Body polarity and who therefore harbours the (+)Mind(+)Body polarity of the Creation Mother within himself, just as God did as FatherMother before Adam was created.

5. Eve is defined from the 'Rib of Adam', which taken out, renders Eve as 'part of Adam' in 'Adam's flesh'. This 'rib' is however the 'severance' of Adam's phallus as a (-)Mind(-)Body polarity template and a 'castration of the female' which renders both Adam and Eve as (-)Mind(+)Body templates in their mirror images of each other.

6. Eve's 'missing' phallus so inverts as Eve's Vagina or Yoni mirrored in Adam's Penis or Djed. Therefore, and archetypically or symbolically, every Old Eve becomes a 'castrated' Old Adam without a phallus and represents the root cause and reason for a cosmically lawful cosmogenetically inherent bisexuality within all of the creation.
It also shows why some Old Adams desire to transform into Old Eves or vice versa and why some Old Eves show sexual preferences for other Old Eves and some Old Adams are sexually attracted to other Old Adams.

Genesis 1 (KJV)

²⁶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
²⁷ So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2 (KJV)

⁷ And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.²¹ And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
²² And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
²³ And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
²⁴ Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Genesis 2 (KJV)

¹⁶ Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

7. This cosmosexual 'breaking of harmony and symmetry', which can also be called the 'fuc11up of the original creation' then allows the original abstraction of the 'heaven and the earth' to physicalise in the birthing of a protoversal omniversal seed or uni-verse. This 'changing of the 'Garden of Eden' from metaphysical abstraction into physical realism, using the ontological definition of an encompassing 'spiritual energy', one might label as code 54=LOVE; then becomes encoded in the 'Banishment of Old Adam and Old Eve from an abstract Paradise of naivety, innocence and ignorance aka sinfulness.

8. The New Adam manifests as a 'New Son of God' to end the ignorance of the Old Adams and the Old Eves, not remembering, that their exodus from Eden was their agency and ambassadorships of mending the original disharmonies of the creation in bringing the polarity separated Father Creator and Mother Creation back together again.
This New Adam is also known as Jesus and many other names as the Word of Creation or the World Logos as the original intelligence of the 'Energy=Love=Spirit' definition for the primordially androgenous FatherMother or a palindromatic semantic of GoddoG=DoggoD.

9. The New Adam so still carries the 'rib', which created Eve and so can function as a new unique (-)Mind(-)Body polarity and which was defined in the precreation, when no spacetimes and no uni-verse yet existed. As Jesus has a physical bodyform after the nature of any Old Adam, being born of woman; he is enabled to use his cosmogenetic (-)Body polarity to exchange for his human genetic (+)Body polarity rendering his (-)Mind polarity as exchanged for the original cosmogenetic (+)Mind polarity of the Mother Creation.
The Oneness and Uniqueness of Jesus as the Original Logos of all Creation so becomes defined in his 'Virginity' of the (+)Mind(-)Body cosmogenetic self definition in mirrored harmony to all Old Adams and Old Eves, who are cosmogenetically defined in their (-)Mind(+)Body blueprints.

10. The New Eve so is any Old Adam and any Old Eve and following the 'Ascension' of the (+)Mind(-)Body of Jesus as a Waveparticular quantum energy waveform; a 'chosen' , meaning a named Old Eve in the form of Mary Magdalene quantum entangled her original and humanity common (-)Mind(+)Body waveform following her physical death with that of her ascended lover.

11. This quantum entanglement or 'heavenly wedding' or dragonomy then allows the Cosmic Twinship between the 'Son of God' and the 'Daughter of God' to heal the original 'fuc11up' of the cosmogenetic sexes in recreating the original maleness as a (-)Mind(-)Body for any Old Adam(Eve) desiring to become a New Adam(Eve), but ALWAYS in a coring or dragonomy with his own cosmic 'perfect twinsoul' represented by the cosmogenetic template of the New Eve in the (+)Mind(+)Body blueprint for the original cosmically divine femininity.

12. 600+3x20+6=660+6=66+6= ADAM AND EVE = 19+21+32=72=WORLD=WOMAN + ABBA = FREEDOM + BAAB = THUBAN + AB+BA = MONEY = LAW+WAL

AntiChrist + Christ are together as ANY New template or CORE for an 'eternalised' Starhuman 'ManWoman' entwined WITH an 'immortalised' Starhuman 'WomanMan' in a intimate foursome with the Cosmic Twinship of JCCJ.
It is the 'Old broken symmetry' between Adam and Eve as archetypes for later incarnating, evolving and emerging energy templates, which represent the 'Evil=VEIL=Live' of the 'Devil=Lived' thoughtforms and memeplexes, labeled as antiforms of creation in a necessitated dualism, now found and located at its 'Use by Date'.

The Number of a MAN is WO+MAN=66 and 'The Mother of All Living' is EVE=32=LIFE=CELL
EVERY Old human MAN=AntiChrist, AS is every Old human WOMAN as the 'Number of a MAN'.
Both carry the 'Original Sin=Ignorance' of the shared malemindedness within a femalebodiedness as a (-)Mind(+)Body polarity.
The Cosmic Twinship Logos of Jesus JC as the RIGHT Side Christ of the 'Father' and of Mary Magdalene CJ as the LEFT Side Christ of the 'Mother' TOGETHER harmonise the New Adam in Jesus Christ's (+)Mind(-)Body 'merkabah' or waveform gestalt, with that of the Old Eve in Christ Jesus' (or Jesusina=In A Jesus) in the form of Mary Magdalene's (-)Mind(+)Body bodyform, common to ALL incarnates as part of the 'Old creation' waiting in pain for 'Her' = All of the Physicalised Uni-Verse or Mono-Song and including of ALL lifeforms.
Only a welcomed and invited dragonomy or Cosmic Eucharist of 'the old man' and the 'old woman' 'rebirthing themselves in such a manner, can 'save' the 'old creatures' from cosmic self-extinction.


Genesis.3.20:
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.


Revelation.12.18:
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Romans.8:21-23:
²¹Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
²² For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
²³ And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.




Revelation 13 (KJV)
¹ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
² And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
³ And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
⁴ And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
⁵ And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
⁶ And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
⁷ And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
⁸ And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

⁹ If any man have an ear, let him hear.
¹⁰ He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

¹¹ And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
¹² And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
¹³ And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
¹⁴ And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
¹⁵ And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

¹⁶ And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
¹⁷ And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
¹⁸ Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."


(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

(50) Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where did you come from?', say to them, 'We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it you?', say, 'We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' If they ask you, 'What is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, 'It is movement and repose.'"

(83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."

(84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"

(85) Jesus said, "Adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, but he did not become worthy of you. For had he been worthy, he would not have experienced death."

(101) <Jesus said,> "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not love his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. For my mother [...], but my true mother gave me life."

(105) Jesus said, "He who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."

(106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will move away."

(108) Jesus said, "He who will drink from my mouth will become like me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed to him."

(109) Jesus said, "The kingdom is like a man who had a hidden treasure in his field without knowing it. And after he died, he left it to his son. The son did not know (about the treasure). He inherited the field and sold it. And the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. He began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished."

(110) Jesus said, "Whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."

(111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. And the one who lives from the living one will not see death." Does not Jesus say, "Whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"


(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

The Gospel According to Thomas (Lambdin)

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Malachi 1 King James Version (KJV)

¹ The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.
² I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,
³ And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
⁴ Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever.
⁵ And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The Lord will be magnified from the border of Israel.
⁶ A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the Lord of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?
⁷ Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the Lord is contemptible.
⁸ And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the Lord of hosts.
⁹ And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the Lord of hosts.
¹⁰ Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the Lord of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand.
¹¹ For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts.
¹² But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the Lord is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.
¹³ Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the Lord of hosts; and ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; thus ye brought an offering: should I accept this of your hand? saith the Lord.
¹⁴ But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the Lord of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen.


Malachi 2

¹ And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.
² If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the Lord of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.
³ Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.
⁴ And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you, that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the Lord of hosts.
⁵ My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name.
⁶ The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.
⁷ For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.
⁸ But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the Lord of hosts.
⁹ Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.
¹⁰ Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
¹¹ Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the Lord which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.
¹² The Lord will cut off the man that doeth this, the master and the scholar, out of the tabernacles of Jacob, and him that offereth an offering unto the Lord of hosts.
¹³ And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the Lord with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
¹⁴ Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
¹⁵ And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
¹⁶ For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
¹⁷ Ye have wearied the Lord with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the Lord, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?



Malachi 3

¹ Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.
² But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
³ And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness.
⁴ Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the Lord, as in the days of old, and as in former years.
⁵ And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the Lord of hosts.
⁶ For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
⁷ Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
⁸ Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
⁹ Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
¹⁰ Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
¹¹ And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.
¹² And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.
¹³ Your words have been stout against me, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
¹⁴ Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the Lord of hosts?
¹⁵ And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
¹⁶ Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name.
¹⁷ And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
¹⁸ Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.


Malachi 4

¹ For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
² But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
³ And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.
⁴ Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
⁵ Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
⁶ And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.



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