Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:42 pm


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Kryon: The Recalibration of Knowledge


8 March 2012 - 9:05am | sensipeter

Channeler: Lee and Kryon Saturday, 14 January, 2012 (posted 8 March, 2012) Greetings, dear ones, I am Kryon of Magnetic Service. There's no 3D time here where I am, and it's difficult for me to give you or my partner messages that are synchronistic to the reality you live in. Instead, we often give you information about the energies and the potentials that are here and not something on your timeline. So that is what this particular message is about. We have only a few things to say, but it's going to require that we do it slowly and accurately, for we're dealing with things my partner has no knowledge of. So I give him intuitive visions, and he then translates them in real time as he receives them. Even the voice that you hear, the consciousness that you perceive, and the energy that is around him is his ability to meld with Spirit in a quantum state. This allows him to bring forward in what you call real time a message that he is not aware of. He steps aside as he does now and, with curiosity, listens to what's happening next. It is not a takeover. The man who is in the chair and I have an agreement, and it's one he hasn't talked about much. Years ago when I said to him, "We are going to channel in this fashion," he said, "I refuse to have a takeover." So instead, I offered him a meld and I said to him, "If you will meld with me during these times, there will come a day when the meld is permanent." And he agreed. Then he asked me, "Is the meld unusual?" I told him no. It is what every single Human can do - not to sit in front of humans and channel as you see now, but instead to have a direct portal to the Creator in all things. It isn't unusual. In fact, it's what every Human on Earth intuitively feels is what they want - a connection to home. These things have been done by Humans many times before, and before that they were done, and before that they were done [explained in a channelling to come later]. The result of doing the meld properly eventually connects you to the Creative source and you stop being a Human, as you define it. The ones who seeded this planet walk this day here and they don't die. They're in a quantum state and they can travel wherever they want. They reside in certain parts of the earth, including Shasta and Hawaii [in your country] and many other portals on the planet. Many of you reading this know what I'm talking about. And that is the promise of what happens with earths everywhere that go through a process where they pass the decision points and start another process, a process where they change their reality out of 3D into a new paradigm. My Cryptic Communication I am trying not to be cryptic, and at the same time I do not reveal the specifics of things that are not known to you yet. Spirit has a promise to humanity: Since you are the planet of free choice at the moment, we can't give you hints. All the things that are revealed must already be here in Human potential thought. All inventions of what might come about have to already be germinating somewhere in the Human mind. And if it isn't so, we don't speak of it. This respects the process of the test that is before you and the experience you have come to have. It's your agreement with us. Perhaps this is the first time you've heard this from a channeller, the fact that we do not reveal things that are not already here in some form? It's the truth. However, typically Human creative thought, even of invention, of potential, of philosophy, may take a decade or more to reach the place where the masses may hear about it. So today I'm going to tell you some things that we see the potentials of that are there already. It isn't fortune telling. It's on the earth already. So I will walk you through some things quickly. The New Energy 2012 You're in a new energy and it's just starting. It's different than the past New Energy. The end of 2011, mushing into this 2012 year, brought about what we have been predicting to you for a long time. It is The Bridge of Swords. The Bridge of Swords we have described before is a bridge that humanity uses to go from one energy to another and it's celebrated all over the Universe. It's celebrated by those who helped seed the planet and by those who helped seed them, and the ones before them and the ones before them. They are standing around you, in front of you, in the corridor of your life, crossing the swords above our head, celebrating a victory. Like the ceremony of marriage in the military, where the comrades in battle stand and cross the swords and you walk down the aisle, that's the Bridge of Swords and that's what you're doing. Oh, dear ones, it may sound cryptic to you again, but these who cross those swords have gone through what you have gone through. They KNOW what is happening and where it may eventually lead you. They have been waiting for this for a very long time. There are so many from so many different parts of the Universe, and they all know. Help With What is Currently Happening You've got help. What happens to a planet that is starting to soften? Old souls are the Lightbearers and have been for years. They're the ones who can show the rest of the earth light in a dark place. That's what you've been doing for years, and it's been an uphill battle. It's an overused metaphor, but one that we continue to use for simplicity. Consider that you have those on the planet who have walked in the dark for thousands of years. It's just darkness. It's not evil or mystical, but simply the absence of light. It's a darkness where humanity doesn't unify, because it is hard to do that if an entire Human race is walking in the dark. It's hard to know what to do when you can't see where you are walking. So you take care of yourself. It's more about survival than anything else - the basics. In survival, you collect others around you for safety and comfort. You can hear them; you can sense them; you can collect that which is what you would call a group, and you huddle in the dark, metaphorically. This is the metaphor for the planet as you know it. Wars break out because you're in the dark. You can't see the others, so you fear them and prepare to always defend your reality. That's the way it has been for almost all of history. Suddenly, however, there is light. What happens when there's light in a dark place, even a little? Suddenly, many can see to walk from here to there. Imagine having to walk in the darkness from A to B for centuries, and suddenly there is a light on the path. There is no fear about the unknown when you can see in front of you! You're free to unify, since you can see that the others are just like you! You're free to have ideas. You're free to have knowledge. This particular message is what I told you it would be. You may call it The Recalibration of Knowledge on the Planet. Unknowing to you, and very slowly, a softening is taking place, moving the energy of the planet more from the masculine to the feminine. That is to say, it is balancing what was unbalanced. North and South are coming together hemispherically, so that there's no longer a macho Northern hemisphere, but rather one which is balanced. It has to happen this way for Africa to do what it's going to do. (predictions ahead) Look at Africa on the map. You'll know what I'm talking about. Balance must occur and it is occurring. Africa is literally going to be the "New World" within 75 years. What happens when you heal a continent and the basics are then available without the control of disease or dictators? The answer is an amazing beginning of a civilization that has no boundaries and nothing to unlearn but poverty. Watch for it and "stand back." What happens when the earth starts to soften up and there's more light? Even the terrorists change. I invite you to watch for it, Human Being; I invite you to watch all of it. You can watch some things happen that you didn't expect. When the Soviet Union fell over, how many of you had the answers of why that took place without a civil war? It was because that old energy was no longer supportable by the Humans who lived there. There comes a time in the physics of consciousness where if you do not have a cooperative group of Human Beings who will agree with an old energy precept, it cannot be sustained. What happens when the majority of the world doesn't want war anymore? You are actually seeing this develop. Has anyone told you that you are "overdue" for another world war? In 3D, you are. Within the paradigm of the old energy, you are. I want you to watch some countries. I don't have a clock [this statement is Kryon telling us that there is no time frame on his side of the veil, only potentials]. I'll just tell you, it's imminent [in Spirit's timing, this could mean as soon as a decade]. I want you to watch some countries carefully for changes. You're going to be seeing changes that are obvious, and some that are not obvious [covert or assumptive]. But the obvious ones you will see sooner than not - Cuba, Korea [North], Iran, of course, and Venezuela. I want you to watch what happens when they start to realize that they don't have any more allies on Earth! Even their brothers who used to support them in their hatred of some are saying, "Well, perhaps not anymore. It doesn't seem to be supporting us anymore." Watch the synchronicities that are occurring. The leaders who have either died or are going to in the next year or so will take with them the old ways. Watch what happens to those who take their place, and remember these meetings where I described these potentials to you. The Old Energy is Alive, But Not Happy I want to tell you something: Old energy dies kicking and screaming. Old energy does not surrender, ever. Old energy simply dies hard and slow. There will be hold-outs for a long time. There will be those who are convinced that the only way to get what they want is to create drama, war, and fear. They continue to want to spring up in places you felt were safe, and to pull you backwards with them. They hate the fact that the earth is going soft on them, and they continue to rattle their sabers, make threats, and make news doing it. They're not the majority, Human Being, but often they are the loudest. When you walk around in perfect health and you are feeling great except for your sore toe, what do you think about? Your SORE TOE! So then you watch your media talk about sore toes for endless hours, and you get depressed. I know you understand the metaphor. The Weather... Again My partner has been "against the grain" in the past years, giving you what I have channelled about the weather. Is it global warming? No. Is it going to get better? No. This is a two-generation cycle. There will continue to be earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, and storms. This is a recalibration of life in the ocean, and humanity must go through this in any way they can. This is a cycle, a known and expected one, but since you haven't gone through it in modern times, it's not well understood yet. I would like to tell you that you have the same intuitive equipment like the animals do, to keep you safe in the right place at the right time. Yet you don't believe it. Oh, you'll use the Parking Angel, but not the Life Angel. The little stuff is easy for you, but the big stuff is a mystery. It's the same process, "Dear Spirit, where should I live? Dear Spirit, where should I go?" Spirit is right there answering, and you perceive it as intuition. But the first thing you do is to say, "Naw. That's me talking. No, I'm waiting for the voice in the sky. Sorry." You still don't understanding that that is how God speaks to individuals - through the little voice that holds your hand and is the first intuitive impression after a question. Sometimes you get your answer before the question is asked because we know you're asking it. Sometimes we're so anxious to give you the answer, so excited that you would even ask, that it comes even before you ask, way before. This is guidance. That's what to expect. It comes with the territory of a rejuvenation of the planet and this is the year it starts being enhanced. Now, are you going to receive it or throw it away since "you" thought of it? The Revelations to Come in Physics Now, let's talk physics because we now can reveal some things, beautiful things, that are starting to occur in science and are starting to be seen and partially understood. What you have before you, the gentleman sitting on the floor, is Yawee. I know him well. [Kryon is speaking now about Dr. Todd Ovokaitys, M.D., DNA researcher and member of the Kryon team, who sits on the floor in this live session. Dr. Ovokaitys has been identified by Kryon in the past as a great Lemurian scientist and keeper of the truths within the Lemurian Temple of Rejuvenation, discussed in 1994 in Kryon Book Two.] It's interesting, is it not, what the Akashic memory banks bring forward within a Human? Your Akash is soul memory designed to release information about your Akash as the energy of the earth changes to a measurement where it's appropriate to begin a process of revelation. Nikola Tesla created massless objects in his laboratory - what you would call anti-gravity. He knew how to transmit electricity wirelessly (by the way, through the ground, not the air), through the earth (not the atmosphere), and he was frustrated he could not prove it better. The technology was not there, but more than that, the energy of the planet, consciously, was not ready for him. He could not get past the barrier of the belief of others. By the way, he's back and so is Einstein and you'll know them when you see what they're up to. The energy of your time is now appropriately ready for some of the theories that were before their time, which were just as accurate then as they are now. Watch for entirely new science to suddenly erupt with solutions for problems that you have been working on for years, solutions where you say, "Why didn't they think of that before?" Expect cold fusion, by the way. I've told you this before. The experiment with cold fusion was accurate [speaking of the much-discounted Ponds and Fleshman experiment in the past]. The experimenters could not repeat their discovery because they were not aware of the attribute of magnetics that was influencing their experiment [which was done in a basement with the electric utility panels around them]. They thought it was simple chemistry. It wasn't. It was an accidental discovery of physics that remains a mystery at the moment, but that combines chemistry with magnetics, which few are trying. The same thing happened to Tesla, where he was actually able to observe an object fly off the bench, but really didn't know why. He knew it had to do with the design of magnetics, but couldn't begin to do the design with the tools and technology of the day. Can you imagine such a thing? Now you understand his depression. Such is the way advancement often happens on the planet. A Conversation with Yawee [The Name for Dr. Todd] Todd is here and in this new energy his Lemurian Akash is starting to reveal what he knows. The energy moves forward and releases engrams into his consciousness. He doesn't get everything all at once, none of you do. The vision that he had started his quest, [speaking of his DNA vision years ago], but he is now remembering items that are being released to him little by little. My messages to Yawee about his profound pineal tonings did not come from the ethers. He already knew it. But let us say, he needed a prodding so that he would match the clock of 2012. [Laughter] And it had worked and he will be ready on time. But he knew this information already. He already had the inkling and perception of the tones put together, because he knows about the cycle of physics that nobody talks about... and so we will today. The Temple of Rejuvenation As Yawee, Todd ran something called the Temple of Rejuvenation in Lemuria. There were attempts to recreate it in Atlantis much, much later, but that didn't work because Yawee wasn't there. Yawee had an attribute that the Lemurians knew was unusual, and that was that he lived three times the lifetime span that they did. So he had within him some secrets about energy, and specifically DNA. In the Temple of Rejuvenation, he had discovered something that is in the works of being discovered right now. I don't have a clock. How soon? You'll see. So I address Yawee now in order to continue the teaching: Good morning, Yawee. [Note that the time of day is irrelevant, seeing as how this meeting was approaching 5 p.m. Many never noticed this. It's Kryon humor.] Todd: Good day, Magnetic Master. We've spoken before. We've done it like this and we've done it in private. You're not being put on the spot, for we always give these discussions in appropriate love, just in order to perhaps press issues that are already there, so they match your clock [again, speaking of the 3D time we have]. What do you remember about the Temple of Rejuvenation that comes to you in certain aspects? Do you remember what the energies were there? Todd: There was the use of the intrinsic magnetic core of the earth that was especially concentrated in certain areas and was further augmented by altitude. You remember, dear ones listening to this and reading this, that the Temple of Rejuvenation rested on the top of Lemuria's mountain. Lemuria is the highest mountain on the planet. To this day, it remains the highest mountain, but today it is submerged. It is called Hawaii. The Islands of Hawaii are only the mountaintops of one giant mountain. Measured from the bottom to the top, it is the largest on the planet. There is snow at the top, even now. Can you imagine it 20,000 feet higher? Can you imagine what it looked like observable from space? This is the one that the Pleiadians chose to come to first. Obvious, it was. Yawee, you might remember, you were always cold. Always cold. For you couldn't have a heater in the temple because then it didn't work! When you saw that which is being done in science today on the screen that my partner brought [a video that Lee showed earlier on macro-entanglement], did you see anything interesting that you might remember? We speak of temperature. We speak of cold that is so cold that it actually creates less resistance to the flow of energy. This is actually the catalyst for increasing that which is magnetic by 10, 100 times, even 1,000-fold depending on the temperature. Without technical machinery, it was one of the attributes that allowed you to do what you did in that temple. I want to ask you this. How much do you remember about the physical apparatus that was necessary for this? I ask you these things only of interest to see what your Akash is up to. We have said there was something called the target Human. Todd: In this moment, the key attribute is a magnetic driver with a particular geometry both above and below the so-called target Human. So there was both magnetics - there was the no-zone point that creates the entanglement and there was the importance of a counter rotation and counter spin. Very good. Impressive. Now, the big question. So the Human is entangled, is it? With what is the Human quantumly entangled with? Do you remember? Let me ask you this. How many Humans are in the room? Todd: About 10. Indeed. And is there a special one? Todd: The template Human. Correct! Ah, indeed. Do you remember any other attribute about the template Human that would be noticeable if you saw them? You're not there yet. And that is what we're going to jog in your memory today, if it's all right with you. Todd: Sure. I'll get back to you Yawee, but for now I have to go through a process for all of you to understand what is happening. In the process, there is revelation. I now take you to basic atomic structure. I've done this before, but I've never taken you to this stage. I want you to look at an electron with me, as though you are there and as small as it is. Now go slowly, my partner, for you've had no training in this and it's important that you get the message as presented and don't enhance it [Kryon speaking to Lee]. Physicists say that electrons spin. They don't, and they can't. There's no surface on an electron, since they are energy. They don't spin, but instead have an electronic potential. Every single particle on this planet, everything you can see, all things in this Universe, are created with polarity. This is new information now. All things are created with polarity, and they're designed to be self-balancing. And because of the polarity of what you would call plus and minus, they move and try to balance themselves within a field - all things, both physical and other. However, all polarities are prone to be biased by what I will call peer pressure. Electrons that carry (or spin with a polarity) of what you would call a certain kind of charge - we'll call it positive - are drawn to those that are negative so that they will null themselves out. They seek each other out to create the null of balance. They seek to be balanced, and if they are not, they are not happy. I use this word only to emphasize the condition of a particle of physics that does not find its balance. Even the unscientific can appreciate this. But even with atoms, there are not always matched pairs of electrons, since there is no atomic rule that says that electrons will always be created in even numbers. So there will often be what I will call the odd one out and when that happens, the entire atom will then be charged positively or negatively, depending upon the odd one out. When this happens, this atom will seek out another atom, which has an odd one out of an opposite charge. That has a name: Magnetism. I've just explained magnetism. Now, science knows part of that already. What they have not realized yet, however, is that all things have a duality. They suspect it and there are theories that will show it soon enough, and I've given it to you today because it always has existed in someone's mind. So from the very smallest to the very biggest, even the galaxy has duality. At the center of your galaxy, what you call the black hole, is a quantum push/pull engine, and I'm going to tell you in a minute why it's that way. Here is a big question, and I will answer it right now. Why does everything have a polarity? Why would it be created this way, even down to the electron? The smallest thing, even to what you call the Higgs Bosen [God Particle] and the quarks, they all have polarity. There isn't a piece of nature that you're going to find that doesn't have polarity. Why? I will tell you why: Physicists will laugh. Not in ridicule, but in agreement. If it were not this way, the Universe would be a dull, boring place to be. Because, by creating a duality in every single particle, you create an active Universe that is self-balancing and is never at rest. If it were not this way, it would be static, unchanging, and non-creative. Therefore, without polarity, there would be no life. Life is created by having a duality, a polarity in atomic particles. Life is that which is necessary for the Universe to exist. There's no reason for physics without life - and you thought it was the other way around, didn't you? Life was an accident on one planet. Oh, how 3D of you! Life is the DESIGN. Let's continue the discussion, for it's going someplace. Yawee, you just described the process of creating macro-entanglement in the Temple. What you described was magnetics and null points. Very good! Do you perhaps understand that magnetics and null points are even at the center of your galaxy? Todd: Of course. So that means the galaxy is an entangled state with itself. This now explains why all the constellations and solar systems are not following Newtonian movement. Instead, they all move together as one around the center, because they are entangled. I've just given the reason for it, and science will start to understand that soon. It has been a mystery so far, but now you know. So you have macro-entanglement. The largest thing you can imagine, the galaxy, is entangled with itself. Is it possible there are other entanglement issues that you don't see or recognize or know about in every single day of life? And the answer's yes. So here we go. Oh, dear Human Being, what I'm going to give you next is beautiful, and it has to do with DNA and Yawee knew it. He knew how to do something magical. The blueprint for DNA is perfect. The good doctor will tell you that in his current incarnation [as Todd]. I've told you that before. It's perfect inside you, yet you sit here with DNA that doesn't work well. It seems to be a dichotomy, since it is perfect and designed for extended life, yet it does some things that are counter-intuitive to that. DNA is designed as an informational source to receive the energy of that which is around it, created by the consciousness of humanity. It then postures itself in an appropriate reaction to the energy it is in. In other words, if the planet has low energy, it will, too. It's a quantum engine, and if the quantum energy created by Human consciousness is low, it works poorly. I want to define life for you - not biological life, but spiritual life. So for all those intellectuals, just hold on, for many won't like this. Spiritual life, as measured by Spirit, is when a Human has free choice. When is that? It's when they take their first breath. Not in utero. There will be those who will say, "That's wrong, that's wrong. The soul in the woman's body is alive!" Just wait. I'm talking about spiritually. That which Spirit sees, and it's when you come from the other side of the veil and take your first breath. A child with the mother has no free choice. That child is linked to the choice of the mother until it is born. It is, indeed, a soul in preparation for free choice, and there are many attributes that are spiritual that we have discussed before about how that soul reacts. But now I'm discussing life with polarity [duality], free choice. But let's discuss that "child inside" for a moment, for there is a process I want you to know about. I want to talk about 240 days into the pregnancy. At about that time, the child has perfect DNA. It hasn't taken its first breath. The DNA hasn't measured the energy of the planet yet, since it is contained. Did you realize that? Inside the womb is a perfect child. The child's DNA has all the attributes of the Akash and also the parent, but it's different in a way you have not been told. The DNA is 100% as designed. The quantum instructions within the DNA are all talking to the biology of the child,, getting ready for the first breath. Now, I reveal to you, Todd, Yawee, what you already know. Explanation of the Temple of Rejuvenation The Temple of Rejuvenation has two Human Beings quantumly entangled. One is the target. The other one is the "template." Life extension, through the knowledge of DNA that Yawee had, was to entangle the target with the template and transfer certain attributes from the one to the other. The only way this could ever work is if DNA had a quantum attribute, and it does. All our teaching for more than 10 years has told you that the 90 percent of DNA that is non-encoded and considered "junk" is a quantum instruction set. Therefore, the DNA molecule must have some quantum attributes yet to be discovered, but that are very real and have to do with instructions to the chemistry of more than three billion parts of the DNA molecule. This is especially true to the gene-producing chemistry of the protein-encoded parts. For simplicity, I tell you that DNA is actively dynamic and can change the reality of everything you think of as "normal." Yawee, you explained very well the attributes of the target creating an entangled state with the template Human. Now we reveal that the template was (1) a woman (2) who is pregnant. You have... Todd interrupting: ... the source of the perfect DNA template! That is correct! So the secret of the Temple of Rejuvenation is twofold: (1) DNA is perfect on Earth within an unborn child and you can transfer some of the attributes of that perfection before it assimilates the energy of the planet. (2) You can extend life and healing through a quantum communication with the DNA molecule. Do you see the implications? The wise, divine feminine who is with child is the only one who could be on the template table. Are you starting to understand the beauty of this, the implications of this and where it's going? There are several things that are going to happen in mainstream science. First, you're going to find some secrets of DNA and they're going to be embryonic. Start watching scientists discover the embryonic cells and the magic within them. You already know that unusual stem cells exist in the placenta. You also know that the pre-programmed adult stem cells are still there in the body. But what about the DNA of the unborn? (Intellectuals, please keep reading, for to stop now will create unrest.) Second, your work today Yawee, will represent "the perfect template" without using what you did in Lemuria. That's why you're the Human who will do this. It's an extension of why you came here, and is perfect for 2012 and beyond. These embryonic cells of the unborn are untouchable by society, and they might as well be on Mars, for no science is going to try to use these cells in a 3D manner, which is all you know how to do at this point. If they try, it won't work anyway. There are quantum processes you are learning about that are not only non-invasive, but actually helpful and that can transfer attributes from one biological cell to another and from one Human to another. Think "wireless" [Kryon human again]. What you thought would take wires over 1,000 miles long is now done with satellites. It's an analogy that shows you that you are moving into totally new understandings of the transfer of energy. Let's discuss the mother in that temple for a moment. The woman on the table back then, who is the "template," won the "Lemurian lottery"[Kryon being funny], for she knows that her baby, being entangled with another Human no matter how old or how sick, creates an enhancement of who that baby will be. This is complicated, but the process of helping the other will be etched into the baby's Akash, and the child will be born with an attribute of the healer. There is complexity and controversy and over-intellectual thinking in all this, for your 3D brains will race to find things wrong with this. All I can tell you is that a quantum system is not a linear one, and your logic will fall on the floor if you try to analyze these things. Can you imagine time in a circle? Can you see being in two places at the same time, or even of changing your molecular structure at will to be part of another object? If you can't do that, then you are not allowed to comment reasonably. For all those things are part of quantum possibilities of DNA. If you don't believe me, ask a Pleiadian [more cryptic Kryon humor]. Now Yawee, are you understanding what you were doing back then? Do you need any more answers? Todd: Well, I could say, do I? Yes! [Laughter] Yawee, what is it that you dream about? What is it that you dream about that you don't know and want to? Todd: I dream about recalibration of the DNA and the coherent alignment that allows us to move freely, I guess, as the Pleiadians do in a quantum state from one place to another. Of course you would ask that, since you see a much larger picture based on what your Akash has seen and remembers. You also know it's possible. Meanwhile, all those in here are asking the same thing about what they just heard: "Where can we find a pregnant woman and do this now?" [Laughter] It's way beyond that, and the Pleiadians knew it. All this information originally came from them and passed to you, Yawee. It was for then, not now. The Pleiadians don't need a pregnant woman in order for them to do what they do today. They have DNA, too, but it's in a fully developed quantum state - a state that is the potential for the Human race. I would remind you that my partner has given you messages in the past about the attitude of physics. Now we are right back to the polarity discussion that started this channelling. This "attitude," Yawee, is imbued into the natural invention that you have discovered. Physics is active and seeks balance. That is to say that every field you have created with your process has the attributes - are you ready? - of perfect DNA. It already sees the attributes of the blueprint of the unborn. You don't need a pregnant woman. The attributes can be passed to the Human and received by that Human in whatever posture that his cellular structure is able to absorb. What you have done in your work is to create a quantum field with those Pleiadian attributes, and the cells listen when they are exposed to them. It's not finely tuned yet, but you will discover how eventually. When you do, you will have the regeneration engine of the future, without a "template Human," but instead with the attributes of the template Human. This process and others will be seen by science also. You won't be alone. It is not appropriate that you would have the secret of life exclusively, so there will be others. Embryonic studies with animals are going to start to reveal that which gives the ability to grow back limbs for Humans, and many of the other things we have talked about for 23 years. It begs still a greater question: "What is the true role of animals on the planet? Do they reincarnate?" This is for another time. Look for these kinds of things to happen soon, and also the use of adult stem cells in a bigger way. And there it is, all laid out in front of you. All of this has been waiting for 2012. Yawee, one of your attributes is that you live with the Pleiadians. You are still in an entangled state with them, which is not in 3D. They want to hear the tones again as they did 26,000 years ago. They're ready. And when that signal is sent, it will say "humanity has arrived and is going to stay" [speaking of Todd's Lemurian Choir Project for the solstice of 2012]. And that is the message for the day. Some will say, "Too much science, Kryon!" Others will say, "Indeed, the beauty of the system of the Creator is at hand." Dear ones, don't be turned away with the particulars of the science. You don't have to know and understand it, but we ask you to celebrate it. For God the creator is the master physicist of the Universe and has used these tools to create the system of life and the balance of love. All of this is going to enhance Human life and Human understanding. Again, I will tell you that the distance between the nucleus and the electron of every single atom is filled with the love of God. That's the soup of the Creator, built for life and ready to take your hand if you want it to. It is the recalibration of knowledge on the planet and the first step into a quantum paradigm. Get ready for it. I have no clock. I can't tell you when. I can only tell you that it is at hand and it was not when we started with you all those years ago. We passed the marker together and now the work begins. And so it is. KRYON = 83 = GNOSIS = WISDOM = 38 = ALPHA = BRIDE = NOAH = CAT.HER.IN.E = MIREILLE = MILL.EIRE =... Comment by Decoder Michael: KRYON United Nations Channeling, New York, Tuesday, November 26th, 1996: ... "There is one major challenge left, dear ones; and it is an important one: MAKE PEACE WITH THE DRAGON - we will leave this message alone for now." ... [1:46:28 PM-March 20th, 2012 (+11UCT)] Xeia: second paragraph [1:46:39 PM] Xeia: i do own some Kryon books [1:46:48 PM] Xeia: can't say i liked everything i read there [1:49:29 PM] Tonyblue: Most is fine from the science angle [1:49:48 PM] Tonyblue: it has become a bit of a 'church' but not overly though [1:50:00 PM] Xeia: yes when it comes to physics it's not that bad [1:50:08 PM] Tonyblue: It is good xeia [1:50:24 PM] Tonyblue: Seth was good on science and this one is its successor [1:50:29 PM] Xeia: i guess i didn't like his long term 'projections' [1:50:35 PM] Tonyblue: no other channels get anywhere near real science [1:50:50 PM] Xeia: when he talks about humanity's future in say 50 or 100 yrs from now [1:51:10 PM] Tonyblue: Yes he is too long term in regards to 2012, but I feel this last post mellowed this as the timefactor is breaking out [1:51:16 PM] Tonyblue: Yes yes [1:51:18 PM] Tonyblue: I concur [1:51:32 PM] Tonyblue: this was the timefactor the Pleiadean 'veil' [1:51:40 PM] Xeia: i was like wtf?...ok i get it, but damn no way i'm waiting that long [1:51:41 PM] Tonyblue: But this is what Thuban is see? [1:51:54 PM] Tonyblue: Thuban defines and is the authority on the 3D timeframe [1:51:57 PM] Tonyblue: there is no other [1:52:07 PM] Xeia: Thank God for that! [1:52:17 PM] Tonyblue: So Kryon had to wait as did everyone else [1:52:27 PM] Tonyblue: Logos gave the timecapsule to his messengers [1:53:28 PM] Tonyblue: Yes I agree this was my caveat with Kryon he denounced 2012 as disaster ok, but went too far with the projections and also with political Israel [1:53:44 PM] Xeia: yes he always does that [1:53:54 PM] Tonyblue: He never made clear that ISRAEL=JACOB =Adam and not geography and politics [1:54:18 PM] Tonyblue: But I think he knows and the channelings should get better in 2012 [1:54:30 PM] Xeia: let's hope so [1:54:35 PM] Tonyblue: I was very impressed with the UN address of 1996 [1:54:39 PM] Xeia: more precise.... [1:54:43 PM] Tonyblue: Yes [1:54:53 PM] Tonyblue: I could read the science new in the books [1:55:19 PM] Tonyblue: But read this one and you might see the synchro with the Insemination and the Birth [1:55:29 PM] Xeia: let's see [2:03:58 PM] Xeia: There's no reason for physics without life - and you thought it was the other way around, didn't you? Life was an accident on one planet. Oh, how 3D of you! Life is the DESIGN. [2:04:05 PM] Xeia: he's beginning to sound like a Thuban [2:04:09 PM] Tonyblue: Lol [2:04:31 PM] Tonyblue: Yes the 'channel' is getting clearer from the Lemurian Veils [2:04:46 PM] Xeia: this is how i talk in my Spanish Chatroom [2:05:06 PM] Xeia: i'm glad he mentions Lemuria... [2:05:16 PM] Xeia: very few even remember old Mu anymore [2:05:30 PM] Tonyblue: He assigns it at the Hunab Ku see 26,000 years ago [2:05:31 PM] Xeia: i lived many lifetimes there [2:05:40 PM] Tonyblue: Midpoint is called Atlantis [2:05:44 PM] Tonyblue: 13,000 years [2:05:50 PM] Xeia: yes indeed [2:05:59 PM] Tonyblue: Some might see it most wont [2:08:49 PM] Xeia: hmm...how interesting.... [2:08:58 PM] Xeia: we were just talking about healing in here [2:09:00 PM] Xeia: and rejuvenation [2:09:08 PM] Tonyblue: Yes I stumbled on this [2:09:20 PM] Tonyblue: I followed Kryon channelings more a few years ago [2:09:21 PM] Xeia: good synchro [2:09:37 PM] Tonyblue: But the science became to bland and repetitive for me so I did not check for a while [2:09:47 PM] Xeia: same here [2:10:11 PM] Tonyblue: Yes but I always knew that the 'veil' for all channelings was in place see [2:10:17 PM] Tonyblue: So generalities would abound [2:10:40 PM] Tonyblue: These are the Marciniak messages also good so in the 1980s [2:10:47 PM] Tonyblue: but then becoming bland [2:10:50 PM] Tonyblue: too [2:11:34 PM] Tonyblue: So now he says: "I have no clock' and this shows me that they are tuning into Logos time [2:12:14 PM] Tonyblue: The bad channels will continue to get the times wrong and the better ones will say they dont know or it could be any time [2:12:42 PM] Tonyblue: After Easter the channels should clear up a bit even the 'bad' ones [2:14:47 PM] Tonyblue: A typical generalised NABS channel is like this. They are a dime a dozen. [2:15:00 PM] Tonyblue: Sasha, from the spaceship "Tulya" 5 March 2012 - 9:13am | HelloLight Channeler: Kris-Won I am one of the three females in the group. My name is Sasha and the commander of our spaceship is named Umbro. Greetings to all our brothers and sisters of Mother Earth. We come from another, more or less distant, planet; for some it may be very far, for others we would be practically neighbours. How do the variables change, depending on the point of view of the observer! In fact, nothing is rigid in the Universe; the vision of the universe depends on the observer's perception, according to his/her experience, lives, living conditions, etc. Right now, we are seven human beings visiting you, and who have the same place of origin. And I say 'human beings' because our appearance is humanoid, like yours (you would not think that the inhabitants of this planet are the only human beings in all the Cosmos, right?) The seven of us constitute the crew of the small spaceship in which we travel. Our vehicule is relatively small, but it is comfortable -- one could live all one's life in it without getting bored because we have multitude means of entertainment, even a room where we can recreate through holographic sounds and images any habitat in the Universe in which we desire to be. As you can see, there is no way to get bored having possibilities like this. We can also recreate moments from our past in which we have been happy and which bring us happiness and joy again by reliving them in detail, as if they were occurring again. I am one of the three females in this group. My name is Sasha, and the commander of our spaceship is named Umbro. All my travel companions are extraordinary beings, so loving and helpful that you'd love to be able to meet them, I am sure. Perhaps some of you would like to get in touch with us; in order to do that, you only need to go to a secluded and solitary place, either alone or in a group, and connect with our spaceship. Towards this end, I will reveal to you the name of our spaceship, which is the same as the name of our group and our mission here on Earth: TULYA. Start by breathing slowly and deeply, and then mentally repeat in a whisper or in a low voice TULYA several times, with the intention to wish to contact us. It is also very important to visualize our spaceship, either flying over your surface or on the ground. And once you feel the contact with us has been made, then the happenings will speak for themselves . We do not tell you anything else in advance, only to try this and experience it yourselves. I don't know if this invitation has been extended to you before, because there is a multitude of small spaceships like ours flying over your beautiful planet, already famous in the entire Universe, (spaceships) whose crews are beings of very different planets or stars, and I don't know if one of them has offered you to make contact with them directly. Anyway, there it is, our invitation. If you have not experienced this before, perhaps this event will be the prelude of a new form of contacting us in a way that has not been tried before. And if you have already done this with other brothers and sisters from space, then you will count with the experience of having done it before, and it will be simpler, for it will be less new to you. What do you say to this? Shall we try it? Go on, then! Who said "fear"? Source: Sasha, from the spaceship "Tulya" Channel: Kris Won [2:16:11 PM] Xeia: Mark 13:32 [2:16:20 PM] Xeia: "But of that day and that hour knows no man, no, not the angels who are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." [2:17:08 PM] Tonyblue: Yes and then the Father tells the Son and the SonDaughter tells herhis friends and bingo! [2:18:20 PM | Edited 2:18:54 PM] Tonyblue: WHEN the time has come. Many conveniently misapproppriate this scripture in their self-righteousness and competitive spirit of ignorance and 'sinfulness'. [2:18:56 PM] Xeia: { It is, indeed, a soul in preparation for free choice, } speaking about the babe still in his mom's womb [2:19:04 PM] Xeia: much like a human is in this moment in time [2:19:19 PM] Tonyblue: Yes this is precisely the agenda of Easter. [2:19:55 PM] Tonyblue: But the template femme is not a human or ET mother, but the Virgin Cosmos in toto. [2:20:59 PM] Xeia: as unbelievable as it may seem to most [2:27:36 PM] Tonyblue: shared this dear [2:27:50 PM] Xeia: "The DNA is 100% as designed." [2:27:56 PM] Xeia: or "Virgin" DNA? [2:28:11 PM] Tonyblue: Yes I said many times in my posts, that the DNA is 'base perfect' recall that? [2:28:19 PM] Xeia: yes [2:28:53 PM] Tonyblue: This means the DNA which projects the physical DNA in the biochemistry [2:29:14 PM] Tonyblue: This is what Kryon indicates there [2:29:23 PM] Xeia: so each time around, the human has a chance to always at some point revert it back to the original template [2:29:36 PM] Tonyblue: It is purly 12D and this is 'beyond the veil' as he terms it [2:29:42 PM] Tonyblue: YES [2:30:23 PM] Tonyblue: It is literally base - perfect and consistes of the 'cosmic human' the dragon, the starhuman and not the planetary 'densified' old human [2:30:33 PM] Xeia: indeed [2:31:09 PM] Tonyblue: After death you revert to this as a new 'journey' in the 'overworld-underworld' dyadic matrix complex [2:32:04 PM] Tonyblue: So there is no direct ascension and the 'ascended masters' NABS is mainly astral 'interferenc e pattern' of the quantum physics, as are the 'evil ETs', star wars and so on [2:32:44 PM] Tonyblue: The 'Rejuvenation Chamber' assigns the 'sacred geometry' see in association with 'magnetics'. This then are those 'magneto charges' Thuban publishes as higher D polarity conjugates to the lower D electro charges [2:33:25 PM] Xeia: i am just getting there...i'm reading this carefully

[2:36:10 PM] fates---: After death?
[2:36:47 PM] Tonyblue: You dissipate fates
[2:37:16 PM] fates---: I figure as much
[2:37:30 PM] fates---: You can't take your memories atleast
[2:37:36 PM] Tonyblue: You converge from the 'spirit' aka the waveform into the quantum individualtion, called 'particular particle' and you diverge when you leave your densification
[2:38:43 PM] Tonyblue: This is the real solution to the quantum paradox of Schrödinger's Cat
[2:39:08 PM] Tonyblue: You are BOTH dead and alive at all times in a quantium bilocality
[2:39:18 PM] fates---: So really there is only one thing existing after death, all that is?
[2:39:27 PM] Tonyblue: You misunderstood
[2:40:17 PM] Tonyblue: The Cosmic Birth is the collapse of the wave into the particle aka the individual and the Cosmic Death is the collapse of the particle function of the individualtion
[2:40:49 PM] Tonyblue: So this the nirvana worshippers got right, but they miss the purpose of the existence of the duality in the first place
[2:41:24 PM] Tonyblue: So your BIRTH is your LIVE as a particle continuing as your life as a wave at 'death'
[2:41:55 PM] fates---: Still individualized?
[2:42:19 PM] Tonyblue: The present end of the old paradigms, so becomes the 'changing' of this old karmic laws of the recycling in an end to the duality as EITHER bneing alive as a wave or as a particle
[2:42:42 PM] Tonyblue: The Cosmic Dragan aka the starhuman is always Alive as BOTH simultaneously; yes as a wave or a individuation however subject to the quantum laws of the creator
[2:43:09 PM] Tonyblue: This is the 'doubling' or 'twinning' of yourself in your shadow nature manifested (Khaibit=Menog of Egypt and Persia say)
[2:43:23 PM] fates---: How so?
[2:43:25 PM] Tonyblue: Mirrored in the duplication of the entire Universe
[2:44:26 PM] Tonyblue: In changing the Body-Mind dualism of Desartes say into a BodyMind-MindBody template.
[2:45:21 PM] fates---: A wave of consciousness after death exists how, does it hear and see?
[2:46:34 PM] Tonyblue: It has ears and eyes fates as a MEMORY function of having had ears and eyes in the more dense 3D merkabah. It is also a precondition of the base-perfect genome

[2:47:12 PM] fates---: So memory is retained after death?
[2:47:24 PM] Tonyblue: The cosmos is basically a Memory Machine or Computer, albeit self conscious and alive
[2:47:31 PM] Tonyblue: Of course
[2:48:16 PM] Tonyblue: No thought or deed thought or done by anyone or anything is ever 'lost' or forgotten by the enveloping omniverse
[2:48:20 PM] fates---: Hopefully better than now, I guess I would have to open up to it when I get there
[2:49:23 PM] Tonyblue: As soon as you 'get there' you will KNOW that the purpose of it all is to HAVE a individualisation and so you will work on 'coming back' into incarnation
[2:49:46 PM] Tonyblue: This the Bodhi tree navel gazers have absolutely 'wrong'
[2:49:53 PM] Tonyblue: Nirvana WITHOUT a body is a humungous self deception
[2:51:04 PM] Tonyblue: Nirvana WITH a bodyform , able to access the most densified dimension in 3D is the Masterplan
[2:51:24 PM] fates---: Hmm I see
[2:51:31 PM] Tonyblue: Good, the Jesus GOT saying 'proves' this not the dragon Words=Sword

[2:54:45 PM] fates---: Individualization yet so limited, I guess limitation brings about technology through hardship. It is were too easy we wouldn't evolve
[2:58:51 PM] Xeia: ok i finished
[3:00:22 PM] Xeia: this "distance" between the nucleus and the electron ~~ is infinite and filled with sacred geometry no?
[3:00:39 PM] Xeia: is that what he refers to as the "attributes" that are already embedded within each one as template?
[3:00:50 PM] Tonyblue: Yes and this IS IN FACT a most powerful statement as it defines the LoveFrequency of the Creator
[3:02:17 PM] Tonyblue: It is the Electromagnetic Finestructure Constant Alpha as a one-to-one dimensional mapping beteen 12D and 3D and in 3D this becomes precisely the Golden Mean 0.618033... of the 'sacred geometry'
[3:02:25 PM] Xeia: when he talked about the "pregnant woman", i couldn't help but to think of our role here now as virgin templates for the New World
[3:02:35 PM] Tonyblue: OF Course.
[3:02:57 PM] Tonyblue: Pure Logos there, why I asked you to read this in focus and slowly
[3:03:29 PM] Tonyblue: A better Kryon now, would you agree?
[3:03:47 PM] Xeia: you didn't find it by coincidence imo, it just gives more assurance of what we talked about before
[3:03:55 PM] Xeia: oh yes...and funnier too
[3:04:08 PM] Tonyblue: Lol of course MI is behind it all as the CJ femme fatale
[3:04:38 PM] Tonyblue: MI is individualised fates as a particularised MM
[3:05:08 PM] Tonyblue: You and all men have their own MM=CJ, whom they are required to acknowledge as the divine feminine within
[3:05:33 PM] Tonyblue: Before they do this, they cannot partake of the cosmic eucharist period
[3:05:57 PM] Tonyblue: As CJ is eternally entwined with JC in the Master template of all creation
[3:06:38 PM] Tonyblue: All femmes so are necessitated to acknowledge and invite JC or likewise they cannot become starhumans period and due to their missing divine maleess from within
[3:08:26 PM] Xeia: if some cannot even fathom themselves to be entwined with another...for example in a Core, how can you expect them to realize they can be entwined with JC or CJ?
[3:08:38 PM] Xeia: this interelationship is very much real
[3:08:44 PM] Tonyblue: You GOT it Sui
[3:09:01 PM] Tonyblue: It is very very hard to do
[3:09:45 PM] Tonyblue: Old humans simply will have to understand that their 'marriages' are a wayshower to a much grander 'core coupling'
[3:10:23 PM] Xeia: only true understanding of these concepts could begin to break the huge wall of intellectualized perceptions that negate everything and anything that cannot be 'proven' in any tangible way
[3:10:30 PM] Tonyblue: If they insist in their exclusiveness AS Waves, they cannot particularise their own Uniqueness AS Individuals or personas or particles
[3:10:32 PM] Xeia: it's a very subtle energy
[3:10:50 PM] Tonyblue: This is most profound, what I just said, so again ponder it carefully
[3:11:52 PM] Tonyblue: Yes, the 'Heavenly Wedding' is a Uniqueness One-to-One AS Waves in Loyalty and in the 'eating of the Lion'
[3:12:39 PM] Tonyblue: Then the uniqueness in the individuals becomes completely arbitrary as the Waves are all inclusive and allow any, all and sundry particle couplings
[3:14:16 PM] Tonyblue: This is why Jesus says, that the 'Children of the Resurrection' neither 'marry' nor are 'given in marriage'. He means the Old World Human weddings are dusted and gone as 'Particle quantum entanglements' and have become 'wave entanglements', all encompassing
[3:15:17 PM] Tonyblue: This of course, once again is the 'Original Sin=Ignorance' archetyped in Old Eve as a 'Rib and flesh of Old Adam'.
[3:15:53 PM] Tonyblue: Old Eve 'marries' Old Adam for the purpose to 'show the way' into a better 'matrimony' then termed 'dragonomy'
[3:16:49 PM] Tonyblue: Particle(+)|Particle(-) transforms intro Wave(+-)|Wave(-+)
[3:18:38 PM] Xeia: 'insisting in their exclusiveness as waves' would mean the same as resisting to give up of themselves or surrender to the Logos?
[3:21:26 PM] Tonyblue: here, I mean that wave exclusiveness basically defines the human ego in a direct way.
[3:22:36 PM] Tonyblue: So the Nirvanists wish to transcend physicality AS waves see and this excludes their 'graduation' as wavicles as the win-win of the being both; having the cake of the spirit and being able to 'eat' the cake of the physical life as well
[3:23:05 PM] Xeia: oh you mean in that sense...i see
[3:23:26 PM] Tonyblue: Thew Nirvanists fail to realise that they always were and are waves and so their idea of ascending into bliss is a 'cul de sac'.
[3:23:54 PM] Xeia: is going back to point zero...no movement forward
[3:23:57 PM] Xeia: no advancement
[3:24:18 PM] Tonyblue: There are a number of 'senses' here. But this one is shared on MOA in context, so I emphasized this 'translation'.
[3:25:01 PM] Tonyblue: Exactly, the nirvanists wish to go, where they already are on the soul-level as shards of the creator AbbaBaaB
[3:25:18 PM] Xeia: exactly...utterly ridiculous
[3:26:14 PM] Tonyblue: The Creator-creation wants BOTH, to express Ourselcves as wave AND as particle BodyMind as Particularised Wave and MindBody as a Waveform yet individualised
[3:26:32 PM] Xeia: we are both at the same time
[3:26:41 PM Tonyblue: This is the glory of the creator od creators to express hisher duality as a Oneness
[3:26:44 PM] Xeia: even while here in 3D
[3:27:21 PM] Tonyblue: Yes forever and ever
[3:28:26 PM] Tonyblue: The reason for the incarnations is the blending ofd the linear flow of time with the notime of the circular Now-time - to EXPERIENCE the creation as both creator and creation
[3:28:46 PM] Tonyblue: And the Old Human genome is the Master template to manifest this IN THE LINETIME
[3:29:07 PM] Tonyblue: in the Now-Time all is 'ok' at all moments
[3:29:29 PM] Tonyblue: Therefore the NABS ideas of timetravel and p;arallel universes and individual worlds
[3:29:44 PM] Tonyblue: It is the egocentricity of the waveform BEING everything see
[3:30:09 PM] Tonyblue: So the 'human ego' is a child growin g up, just as Bob dean says at the end of his interview
[3:30:54 PM] Xeia: he did yes
[3:31:04 PM] Xeia: an 'adolescent'
[3:31:30 PM] Tonyblue: So all those 'egomaniacs' 'running around on opld earth'; they are all 'natural' in expressing their waveforms
[3:31:48 PM] Tonyblue: But then the World Logos encompassed them all in becoming the Overwave lol
[3:32:03 PM] Xeia: you're funny TonyLove
[3:32:09 PM] Tonyblue: So all worlds and all universes and all timelines are SUBJECT to World Logos.
[3:32:35 PM] Tonyblue: And it does not matter if the 'wave shards' accept or believe or reject this information whatever.
[3:33:18 PM] Tonyblue: Its like your Body. It is a world onto itself for billoiuons of lifeforms, bacteria, microbes, viruses and so on
[3:33:38 PM] Tonyblue: Well I am sharing this on MOA, heaven and Spruz.
[3:33:40 PM] Xeia: it would be like asking the fetus if he accepts or believes of rejects the fact that he needs to leave the womb one day....
[3:33:48 PM] Tonyblue: As said soon I will not post anym ore on MOA
[3:34:01 PM] Tonyblue: They will have 'gotten rid' of me lol
[3:34:11 PM] Tonyblue: Before they ban me anyway
[3:34:27 PM] Xeia: you won't be
[3:34:36 PM] Xeia: they don't have a reason to
[3:34:58 PM] Xeia: even if they do...it doesn't matter anyway
[3:36:09 PM] Xeia: Thuban data is like that pregnant female in that chamber....
[3:36:30 PM] Tonyblue: Of course not. My work is done after Easter.
[3:37:02 PM] Xeia: a template
[3:37:23 PM] Xeia: it travels in hyperspace and it's available for all
[3:37:34 PM] Tonyblue: Oh yes fiery . Fencesitters abound and those will have a harder time to resonate with both the insemination, the pregancy and the birth of themselves. The few resonaters now will integrate much easier and the skeptics and dejectors will either experience their epiphanies of 'conversion' or 'repentance' or they will become a 'race of outcast' until they remember in the bifurcation of the Old Gaia and the New Gaia
[3:37:48 PM] Tonyblue: That is it.
[3:38:23 PM] Tonyblue: Yes, the Thuban data will be a memeplex travelling the galaxies, not just thios one. remeber the 'real Galactic federation?"?
[3:38:36 PM] Xeia: aye
[3:39:34 PM] Xeia: The Dragons boil their soup in their den, but the scent travels far far away...
[3:39:51 PM] Tonyblue: This one is in 12D and communicates with all galaxies. But Andromeda is the female 'bride'' for Perseus aka the Milky Way as a male and so this is from where 1st contact must come from and with the nearest starsystems as the 'stargates' and those are Sirus and Centauri.
[3:41:08 PM] Xeia: Andromeda.... *deep sigh*
[3:41:27 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: dude wait...um what?
[3:41:28 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: lol
[3:41:46 PM] Xeia: do you have a question?
[3:42:20 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: cant find the quote...about 31181512=E*REAB needing a dragon orgasm
[3:42:54 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: was just trying to see what the heck has happend
[3:42:56 PM] Xeia: only one would show her what sex really is
[3:43:59 PM] Tonyblue: Ok JT this is shared on MOA
[3:44:26 PM] Tonyblue: So choose your words carefully, please
[3:44:40 PM] Tonyblue: I might end it here then

[3:46:09 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well thanks for the warning in advance
[3:46:32 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p255-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#72048
[3:47:45 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i saw another plasma light ship do a flyby tonight... was really bright and this showed up when i was with a friend...almost as if to give some of the things i have been saying some credibility. SO that im not the only one seeing them around my town

 

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• Post n°268

Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:11 am


The Maria Number Matrix of the 33-Summation-Tier


The 'Perennial Philosophy' or the 'Wisdom of the Ancients' often points to what is commonly termed as 'Sacred Geometry', based on the Platonic Solids (of five regular polyhedra: Tetrahedron, Cube; Octahedron; Dodecahedron and Icosahedron) and the Tetraktys of Pythagoras (for the minimum mathematical points to define the four dimensions of 0D=1 Point; 1D=2 Points for a Line; 2D=3 Points for a Plane and 3D= 4 Points for a Space).


Also invoked is the pentagonal supersymmetry of quasiperiodicity as 'Nature's Preferred maximisation of 'packing efficiency' known as the Fibonacci Series and the 'Perfect Numbers' of Euclid and the 'Harmony of Numbers and the Spheres' of Pythagoras, Leonardo da Vinci and Kepler.

In Pythagoraen Numerology, the 'masternumbers' 11, 22 and 33 are often emphasised and this post shall introduce some relatively rigorous number theory (of the so called 'pure' mathematics) to validate the significance of the 'masternumbers' from frst principles.


The alphanumeracy of the Arabic-Hebrew semiotiks then is bounded in say 22 or 26 letters of alphabets, which can attain numerical values in the decad of three triplicities:


Round or Curved 'Mental Numbers' {3-6-9} characterised by masternumber 33;
Mixed or Discontinuous 'Emotional Numbers' {2-5-8} characterised by masternumber 22 and
Linear or Straight 'Physical Numbers' {1-4-7} characterised by masternumber 11.


The Maria-Code in the Riemann Analysis specifies the partitioning of the decimal monad around the primary Maria-Number and SE_ps-Constant '11'.
This generates the Prime Number Algorithm: +1+11+10+11 as 33-tiered segments, which transform the mechanics of SE_ps into the 64-codex of the DNA/RNA code for its eventual quadrupling as the 4x64=256-codex incorporative of dormant intron/intein codings.

All cellular consciousness coupled units so transfer their memory data-bases (as experience factors) by the Fibonacci quantum mechanics.

The Maria-Code is based on the distribution of the Maria-Numbers (M_N)given by:
M(p)+99=M(p+12); n=½[√(264k+1)-1] by n²+n-66k=0.
Maria Numbers are those IntegerCounts, which contain all previously counted integers as mod33.


Example: 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11=66 = 2x33 → '11' is M_N#1 for k=2



11love65use110love164use209love263use......Archetype 2 (rootreductive)

21use66love120use165love219use264love......Archetype 3 (rootreductive)

32use77love131use176love230use275love......Archetype 5 (rootreductive)

33love87use132love186use231love285use......Archetype 6 (rootreductive)

44love98use143love197use242love296use......Archetype 8 (rootreductive)

54use99love153use198love252use297love......Archetype 9 (rootreductive)

65use110love164use209love263use308love....Archetype 2*... ...



Archetypes 2+3+5+6+8+9=33 and Archetypes 1+4+7+0=12 then define the imaginary time-dimensions as the archetypes not in the Sequence for E_ps=1/e* Coefficients used in the application of the seven fundamental principalities to define the F-Space.


We have used the (Hebrew-Isaac-encoding): 54=LOVE=12+15+22+5 with 45=USE=21+19+5; USELOVE=99 as the Maria-Code connectors.


The first 10 M_N's are: 11, 21, 32, 33, 44, 54, 65, 66, 77 and 87.


One can use the Maria-Code to establish a redefinition of infinity by defining a transfinite mapping Aleph-All from 12D-Omnispace as Cantorian transform of Cardinality Aleph-Null.


Limit (T(n)) for n→∞/Infinity = ∞/Infinity {Cantor Cardinality Aleph-Null}
Limit (T(n)) for n→X=0.618033........ = 1 {Cantor Cardinality Aleph-All}

This maps the Riemann pole about z=1 in the Functional-Riemann-Bound (FRB=-1/2) in the gaussian universal wavefunction B(n)=(2e/hA).exp(-Alpha.T(n)), T(n)=n(n+1) as the Feynman-Path-Integral.

This becomes the Riemann-Euler-Harmonic, defining the Gamma-Function geometrically in its nth Term T and nth Sum S and mapping the factotrial function onto the positive integer count:

T^k(E_n) = n^k.T^k(E_n-1) + [(n-1)!]^k and S^k(E_n) = T^k(E_n)/(n!)^k


This uses the Harmonic Series in the Zeta-Function ζ(z) with constant p.
The Sum (1 to Infinity) Σ(1/n^p)= 1/1^p+1/2^p+1/3^p+...+1/n^p and converges for any p>1, since for even terms:

2.2^-p ≥ 2^-p+3^-p, with geometric series 1^1-p+2^1-p+4^1-p+...summing to (1-2^{[1-p]^n})/(1-2^1-p)=1/[1-2^1-p] in the limit for n→Infinity.

Since every Maria Number contains all numbers before it as a sum, it is given that all the prime numbers must eventually crystallise out of the Maria Count.


Define a general number count n and a 'Mersenne-Count' 8n-1=M*.
For a number to be prime this number must be born in the Maria Code.
M* is either a prime or a product of primes in the immediate neighbourhood of the count # or its mapping to M*, which in a sense 'counts' the primes it generates.


This is the finestructure as octaves derived from integer n.
To test a number for primeness, so amounts to a testing for Marianess.
If the number is a member of the Maria-Matrix, then it must be denumerable in the form of M*.

This is the meaning behind the Mersenne-Code (for n prime) M(p)=2^p-1 and the Fermat-Code F(n)=2^{2^n}+1 and the 'Perfect Numbers' depicted as the Mersenne Numbers (M_p), as a subset of M*.
For the Mersenne Numbers, the exponent p is defined to be prime.
M₂=2²-1=3; M₃=2³-1=7; M₅=2⁵-1=31; M₇=2⁷-1=127; M₁₁=2¹¹-1=2047=23x89 and so is not a Mersenne Prime -

yet M₁₃=2¹³-1=8191; M₁₇=2¹⁷-1=131,071;
M₁₉=2¹⁹-1=524,287 are prime and M₂₃=2²³-1=8,388,607=47x178,481 and
M₂₉=2²⁹-1=536,870,911=233x1103x2089 are not and M31=2³¹-1=2,147,483,647 is prime again in the 33-tier count.

The 'uniqueness' of the prime number 11 (and esoteric masternumber) recrystallizes in Mersenne primes as the (first) 'odd one out'.


But it gets better. First we notice that there are just five 'perfect Fermat Primes'.


F₀=2¹+1=3; F₁=2²+1=5; F₂=2⁴+1=17; F₃=2⁸+1=257 and F₄=2¹⁶+1=65,537 are all 'perfect' Fermat Primes, but F₅=2³²+1=4,294,967,297=641x6,700,417 and following are not. Only these five Fermat primes are known to date.




From wiki:
Euclid discovered that the first four perfect numbers are generated by the formula 2^p-1(2^p - 1):


Noticing that 2^p - 1 is a prime number in each instance, Euclid proved that the formula 2^p-1(2^p - 1) gives an even perfect number whenever 2^p - 1 is prime (Euclid, Prop. IX.36).

Ancient mathematicians made many assumptions about perfect numbers based on the four they knew, but most of those assumptions would later prove to be incorrect. One of these assumptions was that since 2, 3, 5, and 7 are precisely the first four primes, the fifth perfect number would be obtained when p = 11, the fifth prime. However, 2¹¹ - 1 = 2047 = 23 × 89 is not prime and therefore p = 11 does not yield a perfect number. Two other wrong assumptions were:

• The fifth perfect number would have five digits in base 10 since the first four had 1, 2, 3, and 4 digits respectively.
• The perfect numbers' final digits would go 6, 8, 6, 8, alternately.

The fifth perfect number (33550336 = 2¹²(2¹³ - 1)) has 8 digits, thus refuting the first assumption. For the second assumption, the fifth perfect number indeed ends with a 6. However, the sixth (8 589 869 056) also ends in a 6. It is straightforward to show that the last digit of any even perfect number must be 6

(when p = 2 or 4k+1) or 8 (when p = 4k-1).

In order for 2^p - 1 to be prime, it is necessary but not sufficient that p should be prime. Prime numbers of the form 2^p - 1 are known as Mersenne primes, after the seventeenth-century monk Marin Mersenne, who studied number theory and perfect numbers."(end wiki)

The 'Perfect Numbers' relate (for prime p) as 2^p-1.M_p :
P₂=2¹.(2²-1)=6=1+2+3=1x2x3;
P₃=2².(2³-1)=28=1+2+3+4+5+6+7=[7x8]/2=4x7=1³+3³=1+27;
P₅=2⁴.(2⁵-1)=496=1+2+3+...+30+31=[31x32]/2 =16x31=1³+3³+5³+7³=1+27+125+343;
P₆=2⁶.(2⁷-1)=8128=1+2+3+...+126+127=[127x128]/2=1³+3³+5³+7³+9³+11³+13³+15³

All 'Perfect Numbers' so are EVEN (it is hitherto unknown if any ODD 'Perfect Numbers' exist); and EXCEPT the basic 'First Perfect Number' 6=1+2+3=1x2x3, they all are the sums of the ODD NUMBERS CUBED.

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:53 pm

Encoded Message for the Dragons of Gaia Serpentina from Akbar Ra for the March Equinox 2012 and the Activation of the Phoenix of Philadelphia as the Spirit of 101
The Delphi Oracle of the DragonQueenBees of Thuban

[12/03/2012 11:22:27 AM - +11UCT] Ra Deb: Hmmm why am I seeing a wheel in my head right now?







3-20-2012 = 307 = 153+1+153 at 20:47 at 7:47 ( 11UCT) as John.1.1 with John.1.11 with John.2:11 with John.11:11 with John.20.11 as 11+11=22=13+9=M+I=V=ZEBRA-DEBRA for

3-21-2012 = 308 for John.21.11 = 308=38+O=3∞+O=3OOO+O=ooo+O+ooo=6oooooo+O=O+∞∞∞=8888=E+3883+E=E3883E
=Ew+88+wE=wE+88+mE=WE+88+ME=3+3883+3=AB+ALPHA+GNOSIS+BA=BA+BRIDE+WISDOM+AB=NOAH+USE+ABC+NOAH=123+121=1234=ABCD



John 1:1 King James Version (KJV)
¹In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


John 1:11
¹¹He came unto his own, and his own received him not.


John 2:11
¹¹This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.


John 11:11
¹¹These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.


John 20:11
¹¹But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,


John 21:11
¹¹Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.​

Fri, Mar11, 2011 --- Tue, Mar20, 2012 = {Apr05&Aug30, 2011}=March Equinox 2012 at 23:21 UCT in Sendai Tsunami at 05:46 UCT;Timedelta =5:46-0:39=5:07 =307 minutes at 193 minutes or 3:13 at 20:47 UCT on Tuesday, Mar20, 2012 in the Activation of the Philadelphia Dragon Phoenix Flyer

Sat, Mar12, 2011 --- Mon, Mar19, 2012 = {Apr04&Aug29, 2011}
...
Week#03=Sun, Mar13, 2011 --- Sun, Mar18, 2012 =Week#56=Gnosis Dragonomy Event Week#9* [9+59=68]* = {Apr03&Aug28, 2011}
...
Mon, Mar14, 2011, 2011 --- Sat, Mar17, 2012 = Saint Patrick de Eire = {Apr02&Aug27, 2011}
Tue, Mar15, 2011 --- Fri, Mar16, 2012 = Ides of March 2011 = Calendrical Convergence Below to Above = {Apr01&Aug26, 2011}
Wed, Mar16, 2011 --- Thu, Mar15, 2012 = Ides of March 2012 = Calendrical Convergence Above to Below = {Mar31&Aug25, 2011}
Thu, Mar17, 2011 --- Wed, Mar14, 2012 = {Mar30&Aug24, 2011}
Fri, Mar18, 2011 --- Tue, Mar13, 2012 = {Mar29&Aug23, 2011}
Sat, Mar19, 2011 --- Mon, Mar12, 2012 = {Mar28&Aug22, 2011}
...
Week#04=Sun, Mar20, 2011 --- Sun, Mar11, 2012 =Week#55=Gnosis Dragonomy Event Week#8* [8+59=67]=March Equinox 2011 at 17:32 UCT


Decoder Michael at 5:35 ( 11UCT) on Wednesday, March 21st, 2012 = 18:35 UCT (Tuesday, March 20th, 2012)

First posted at Log: "Tonyblue posted a reply on Thuban 101 in Thuban -101 forum"

3/20/2012 1:31:38 PM EDT = 17:31:38 UCT = 4:31:38 (+11UCT)

Magnitude 6.2
Date-Time

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 at 17:56:19 UTC = 4:56:19 (+11UCT)
Wednesday, March 21, 2012 at 02:56:19 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 3.830°S, 140.220°E
Depth 66.9 km (41.6 miles)
Region PAPUA, INDONESIA
Distances 153 km (95 miles) SSW of Jayapura, Papua, Indonesia
173 km (107 miles) SW of Vanimo, New Guinea, PNG
1407 km (874 miles) NE of DARWIN, Northern Territory, Australia
3711 km (2305 miles) E of JAKARTA, Java, Indonesia

Magnitude 7.4-7.6
Date-Time

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 at 18:02:48 UTC = 5:02:48 (+11UCT)
Tuesday, March 20, 2012 at 12:02:48 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 16.662°N, 98.188°W
Depth 20 km (12.4 miles)
Region OAXACA, MEXICO
Distances 136 km (84 miles) SSW of Huajuapan de Leon, Oaxaca, Mexico
162 km (100 miles) WSW of Oaxaca, Oaxaca, Mexico
170 km (105 miles) SE of Chilpancingo, Guerrero, Mexico
322 km (200 miles) SSE of MEXICO CITY, D.F., Mexico


ACAPULCO=72=WORLD=MONEY=TALENT=LAW LAW=36+36=666+999=699669={1+2+3+...+34+35+36}+{2²+3²+5²+7²+11²+13²+17²}
MEXICO=116=ETERNITY=INFINITY+10=DEBORAH+10+DEBORAH=5+53+53+5=58+58=STAR FATHER=104+12=123+LOVEJOY+ABC=ABBA+JERUSALEM+BAAB


Revelation 16:21 = 838 = 1(1)1
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

{7.4-7.6 and 11=20 is 11+11 & 11+12 & 11+13 is 24=888 as Epicenter}

PHOENIX=91=SPIRIT=MIRROR=SPACETIME with PHILADELPHIA=PHILA DE ALIHP=46+9+46=DOVE+I+BODY=101=MELCHIZEDEK



"Aliph De Aliph"

ABBA MELCHISEDEC=ADALUN CATIF=FADA LUNATIC=A DEBORAH DEATH=54+38=92
=ALPHA SUN=BRIDE LOVE=NOAH GABRIEL=38+54=6+86=92 = A DINAH BAAB IN ALL A

The lunatic’s house - La maison du fada



La maison du fada: that’s the local name for Le Corbusier’s famous – or infamous –unité d’habitation, or cité radieuse, in Marseille’s suburbs



John 14:1-3
¹Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

²In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

³And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.


Nostradamus: Century X, Quatrain 96

Religion du nom des mers vaincra,
Contre la secte fils Adaluncatif,
Secte obstinee deploree craindra,
Des deux blessex par Aleph & Aleph


The Religion of the name of the seas will overcome,
Against the sect of the son of Adaluncatif,
The obstinate lamented sect will fear
The two wounded by Aleph & Aleph.



PACIFICAP=48+16=64=ISRAEL=PETER=PACIFICA+P=P+ACIFICA+P=32+32=LIFECELL de Pacifica OmniScience La Paz of the Pacific de A&A=A&A*=A&Z=Alpha&Omega of the Witnesses for the LogosTwin JCCJ

1.Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

2.Revelation 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

3.Revelation 21:6
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

4.Revelation 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Carol wrote:

7.6 magnitude earthquake strike near Oaxaca Mexico
​

March 20, 2012 – Mexico City (CNN) — A 7.6-magnitude earthquake hit Mexico Tuesday, the U.S. Geological Survey said. The earthquake’s epicenter was about 15 miles (25 km) east of Ometepec, Guerrero, the agency said, and its depth was about 11 miles (17 km). The agency earlier reported the magnitude of the quake at 7.9, but later revised that figure. Residents rushed into the streets after feeling the temblor in Mexico City. Tourists and residents also felt the earthquake in the resort city of Acapulco. Mexican President Felipe Calderon said in a Twitter post that there were no immediate reports of serious damage. In Mexico City, Mayor Marcelo Ebrard sent tweets saying that there was no visible damage in the capital and that the sprawling city’s strategic services and water system were functioning. Regardless, he tweeted, numerous buildings were being evacuated. -CNN

Twin earthquakes rattle the globe on Spring Equinox

March 20, 2012 – WORLD – Two major earthquakes have struck the world within 6 minutes of each other. The earthquakes were a deep 6.2 magnitude earthquake near Papua, Indonesia and a much more shallow 7.6 magnitude earthquake which struck about 17.5 km (10.9 miles) deep near Oaxaca, Mexico. The Mexico earthquake’s epicenter was about 186 km (115 miles) from the popular resort area of Acapulco.
Carol wrote:


Planet is ringing like a bell following Mexico 7.6 earthquake.

Instead of NABS:
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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

Carol on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:54 pm

Well I have to admit it's going to take me a good couple of hours to respond as your response raises a lot of questions for me. I will add this. I clearly don't understand how "as all 'souls' are shards of the one creator and of equal value in the tapestry of the cosmic life's tapestry hanging in the 'Hall of Records' in the Alexandrian Library on Akbar Ra the homeplanet of thye Dragons in the 12th omnispace dimension" you would know this to be true? I'm totally confused. Did you just download this data from the cosmos? Can you be sure you're not being deceived yourself? Is this all channeled information? Please keep in mind that I ask these questions coming from the perspective of being a seeker of truth and I also understand that truth expands like ripples in a pond to include more truth as conscious awareness expands. Just 12 dimensions? What about multi-verse? Why just 12 dimensions and not more?

Until you came along I knew zip about dragons so just think of me as a neophyte - somewhat of a blank slate with regard to what you're presenting. Meaning - you may need to dumb way down for me to grock what you're offering. I recall you mentioning how this information came to you but how do you know your not being subjected to some sort of mind control of a higher order? Please believe that I'm sincere is asking this because going to source has always been my back-up plan and I thought by staring off with studying the Upanishads and working to understand east/west philosophy and psychology was going pretty far back. Even with my brief stint with Sanskrit there was a deeper understanding of how the tones from the words resonated in the body to impart/unlock various spiritual potentials.

So in my somewhat dim-witted way I'm working to understand what you are presenting and seem to be at the bottom rung of the ladder.

In one sense you remind me of Oxy where one walks away with a lot of questions because the content posted requires a lot of intellectual effort to sort through. However, the one thing I'm really good at is perseverance and will stick with something until I finally can make sense of it. Please be patient with me. Mahalo



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It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.
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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:36 am

The Nag Hammadi Library

The Gospel of Thomas
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Translated by Thomas O. Lambdin

These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.


[1] And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."

[2] Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

[3] Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

[4] Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."

[5] Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."

[6] His disciples questioned him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How shall we pray? Shall we give alms? What diet shall we observe?"
Jesus said, "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered."

[7] Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

[8] And he said, "The man is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

[9] Jesus said, "Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. Some fell on the road; the birds came and gathered them up. Others fell on the rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears. And others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. And others fell on the good soil and it produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."

[10] Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."

[11] Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

[12] The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you will depart from us. Who is to be our leader?"
Jesus said to them, "Wherever you are, you are to go to James the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."

[13] Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like."
Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a righteous angel."
Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."
Thomas said to him, "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like."
Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out."
And he took him and withdrew and told him three things. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"
Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."

[14] Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. When you go into any land and walk about in the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."

[15] Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him. That one is your father."

[16] Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."

[17] Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

[18] The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be."
Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."

[19] Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."



(20) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like."
He said to them, "It is like a mustard seed. It is the smallest of all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."

(21) Mary said to Jesus, "Whom are your disciples like?"
He said, "They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Let us have back our field.' They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them. Therefore I say, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let him dig through into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. You, then, be on your guard against the world. Arm yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will (surely) materialize. Let there be among you a man of understanding. When the grain ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

(23) Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as a single one."

(24) His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."

(25) Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."

(26) Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brother's eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."

(27) "If you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. If you do not observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath, you will not see the father."

(28) Jesus said, "I took my place in the midst of the world, and I appeared to them in flesh. I found all of them intoxicated; I found none of them thirsty. And my soul became afflicted for the sons of men, because they are blind in their hearts and do not have sight; for empty they came into the world, and empty too they seek to leave the world. But for the moment they are intoxicated. When they shake off their wine, then they will repent."

(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

(30) Jesus said, "Where there are three gods, they are gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him."

...

(110) Jesus said, "Whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."

(111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. And the one who lives from the living one will not see death." Does not Jesus say, "Whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"

(112) Jesus said, "Woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."

(113) His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"
"It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'here it is' or 'there it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."



[8:52:50 PM--Friday, March 23rd, 2012 - (+11UCT)] Tonyblue: Look at the chart at the gens bottom right
[8:53:03 PM] Tonyblue: MI is all of them of course'
[8:53:25 PM] Tonyblue: MIIM is undivided FatherMother as the NEW Grandparents cosmic
[8:53:37 PM] Tonyblue: Abba=Baab
[8:53:51 PM] Ishtara Raven: right
[8:54:00 PM] Tonyblue: You understand this yes?
[8:54:16 PM] Tonyblue: The undivided divides and rejoins in 2
[8:54:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i think so
[8:54:51 PM Tonyblue: FatherMother=Father+Mother=JC+MM=MI+IM=Adam+Eve say in 4 gens
[8:55:56 PM] Tonyblue: So because JCCJ=ABBABAAB undivided, once they rejoin in dragonomy ABBABAAB=ABBA+BAAB as new 1st generation FatherMother=Grandpa+Grandma from Father+Mother from Son+Daughter from Grandson+Granddaughter
[8:56:15 PM] Tonyblue: Father+Mother=Code for Joseph+Mary
[8:56:33 PM] Tonyblue: Why Mary is the VIRGIN silly humans
[8:56:49 PM] Tonyblue: NOT physically but archetypical template
[8:56:51 PM] Tonyblue: So easy
[8:57:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes makes sense
[8:57:34 PM] Tonyblue: Good
[8:57:53 PM] Tonyblue: FastherMother cannot have sex
[8:58:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: no because they are one
[8:58:12 PM] Tonyblue: So to have sex Father splits from Mother
[8:58:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: not split yet
[8:58:44 PM] Tonyblue: But the 3D Joseph cannot reproduce ABBA as image see
[8:59:02 PM] Tonyblue: Only Mary as Eve Image of Adam can be the mirror of mirrors here
[8:59:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: right because he has no true mother either
[8:59:26 PM] Tonyblue: So EVE inside MUST become a Virgin Lover in 3D for a real lover in 12D inside-outside
[8:59:38 PM] Tonyblue: You must think about it to understand this
[9:00:07 PM] Tonyblue: It is the rib of Adam the NOT independence of Eve in Eden then becomes Independence in Earth
[9:00:24 PM] Tonyblue: So Adam loses his true image of Heaven-Heaven see
[9:00:38 PM] Tonyblue: All the Bigmo Balloon
[9:00:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[9:00:57 PM] Tonyblue: Well you perhaps have an idea
[9:01:07 PM] Tonyblue: You might not get it yet properly
[9:01:20 PM] Tonyblue: heaven|Heaven is the true image see
[9:01:29 PM] Tonyblue: Heaven|Earth is not
[9:01:37 PM] Tonyblue: Why Adam and Eve are 'banned'
[9:01:55 PM] Tonyblue: So Eve being a False Image in heaven becomes the True Image on Earth
[9:02:08 PM] Tonyblue: In Heavcen Adam is true and Eve is false
[9:02:16 PM] Tonyblue: On Earth Eve is true and Adam is false
[9:02:30 PM] Tonyblue: Because Eve is a double image of Abba, but a single Image of Baab as Creation Image of the Creator
[9:02:45 PM] Tonyblue: Being flesh of Adam and SO is Adam (in mind)
[9:02:52 PM] Tonyblue: Now you can get it
[9:03:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: i understand all that, but not sure what you think i am missing?
[9:04:16 PM] Tonyblue: This then is the malemindedness as waveform being ok but the bodyform of Adam being fake and vice versa. Eve has the correct body but the fake mind
[9:04:30 PM] Tonyblue: Nothing if you do
[9:05:30 PM] Ishtara Raven: so the switch is the ascension of Eves fake mind for the decension of her real mind
[9:05:40 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[9:06:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: and for adam its the ascension of his fake body for the decension of his real body
[9:06:20 PM] Tonyblue: This is just the Adam and Eve in Heaven and on Earth see - Genesis.
[9:06:35 PM] Tonyblue: Now you got it. This is the story of the chart
[9:06:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: but only an Eve can birth this because she is the only true body double image.
[9:06:48 PM] Tonyblue: YES
[9:07:20 PM] Tonyblue: Why the creation is female and the people talk of Mother Earth and not Father Earth. Father Sky is the Mind and Mother Earth is the Body.
[9:07:33 PM] Tonyblue: On all levels and the deepest archetypes and symbols
[9:07:50 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i understand the archetypes, the mindwave is cannot be doubled, its everwhere
[9:07:53 PM] Ishtara Raven: in everything
[9:07:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: but the bodyform can
[9:08:00 PM] Tonyblue: Again I should share this
[9:08:19 PM] Tonyblue: Yes but the bodies are scattered and this is what they call ego
[9:08:57 PM] Tonyblue: The ego knows it is the 'only one' and so competes but it fails to understand its wavenature where all is one and unified
[9:09:31 PM] Tonyblue: So the wave-particle quantum duality is the mind-body dichotomy of Descartes
[9:09:42 PM] Tonyblue: That easy
[9:09:51 PM] Ishtara Raven: This is why Jesus says in GOT 114:

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."


[9:10:06 PM] Ishtara Raven: She needs to become male to ascend her fake mind
[9:10:11 PM] Tonyblue: Jesus KNEW that he was a wave as He-Adam and a body particular an individual as a She-Eve
[9:10:32 PM] Tonyblue: Therefore he could change the universal matrix of spacetime energy
[9:10:41 PM] Tonyblue: Through hisher comnsciousness
[9:10:47 PM] Tonyblue: And selfawareness
[9:11:04 PM] Tonyblue: Yes absolutely. This is the correct decoding



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• Post n°272

Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:13 pm


A shared message from a friend of Thuban and a dragon brother on the journey home, who is a member and contributor on many forums.


Greetings and Salutations old friend!


Perhaps you could share with me one last time before we embark on our journey.... i realized very early on from studying your material that your works would not require the boasting of or recognition that it deserved. The selflessness had become a deafening silence. I thought about interceding on a few occasions but knew you did not require my pat on the back as I wanted to give you so many times.

So having said that, after years of searching for answers, to this day you have been by far the greatest teacher i have ever had. and all though i still have much to learn, I will hold your teachings in the highest regard.

so, april 1st through December 21st.... it is during this time that our light bodies can be attained correct? I might be using that phrase incorrectly... Im thinking of the image of a man with butterfly wings.... but does this mean we can encompass our 3d bodies as well as our higher dimensional selves simultaneously? or at will? forgive me for asking such curious questions. I cant help but wonder. I suppose i shall have to focus on my own self in order for me to understand what will be required of me in order to do so. Thank you for telling people exactly what they need to hear... i hope they have the will to listen...and at least contemplate. i do wish we could have all have met each other in person. it would have been nice to sit and share space with one another. perhaps our light bodies will run in to each other. if you get yours before me.... it would be ok to visit me -codename 48

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Dear Agent 48!

Thank you for your feedback and indeed you have discerned a much deeper agenda, than which is apparent on the surface of this 'Thuban label', which has become and evolved into a formidable memeplex to counter a millenia old background matrix of separation and disunity of 'parties' and 'factions' which are actually interwoven or quantum entangled on its deeper level of manifestation.

There are only 3 recent and future nexus dates which are definitive as general markers for the cosmic metamorphosis Agent 48.

The first one was July 10th, 2011 the second one is April 1st, 2012 and the third one is December 21st, 2012.


A previously posted message desribes this as this:

Agent 5043 wrote:Thuban Fleet.........​

Had a small little session today that involved this fleet. They are on their way alright. But regretfully won't get here.​

Mother also said she never invited them or their agenda.​

Then to top all this off, I was given a package of energy to sample. The energy sample was "like" along the lines of a devil worshiper doing a ritual to draw in an evil spirit and when the evil spirit finally came through, it basically decapitated the worshiper.​

So maybe what doors you have opened is going to bite your butt when it gets here type of thing. But then again, if your fleet doesn't get here what are you going to do next?​

To give credit where it is due..... you guys never give up. But in case you haven't been paying attention, certain entities are not going to stand there and watch some Thuban fleet to come into this solar system to hijack another system. Let's just say our solar system has grown some balls over night and what used to be so easy to do in the past won't be so easy to do in the future. The arrogance always acts like it forgot something. That something also has a higher purpose that can't be molded by anything on the outside of itself since the Creator gave breath to it with a thought. That original thought is what the arrogance has forgotten. Notice I didn't throw in any complicated math in there.​

I also was shown all this recently so I am sharing it with you since it concerns your group and I do hope you choose wisely as to what you expect might be a grand disappointment. All I know is that this Solar System is on a different path than the path of a hijacking dragon mindset. That old hijacking system decorated as a wonderful mysterious seductive piece of " " isn't going to work like before. This solar system has woken up and many other factions are also going to find out the hard way. But don't take my word for it. And I mean that. Good luck researching this out. If you try to do that, you won't need the math to do so. Just a helpful hint.​

Namaste'​

Aye aye aye!

Those smart humanoids in their sentry positions and with their penetrating scanning instruments again. We just cannot avoid and escape their brilliant discernments regarding our clandestine intentions and sinister agendas.

The humans have discovered one of our draconian timelines in their divers preponderances. Like when they matched their spacecraft retirements to time the Shadow Birth of the return of the Plumed Serpent on December 21st, 2012 -December 23rd, 2012 in the Thompson-Lounsbury Variation of their calendrical calibrations.

There are 265-267 Days of Gestation of the Thuban pregnancy in forward time and there are 265-267 days of Pregnancy in backwards time.
July 8th - July 10th, 2011-------(265-267)-------March 31st - April 1st, 2012-------(265-267)-------December 21st - December 23rd, 2012.

And so Atlantis becomes the Final Frontier for the human redundancies in their efforts to visit and colonise Dragonian Hyperspace.
Atlantis Rising from its depths of slumbers and encumbrances indeed!

Abraxasinas​

Agent 5043 wrote: Mocking me is not exactly intelligent.​

Also, I shared this with you as to what I was informed. Who informed me showed me straight up as to how the fleet scenario would unfold. If you guys are so connected as you claim, then please by all means see if you can sort this out for yourselves. I didn't come here to fight you. Or you can continue to use the silly paint brushes and complex math to give you the superiority mindset to continue to insult whatever life force you might be addressing. It matters not to me how you go about seeking the truth of this matter. I just wanted to point it out to you and that is all. Do with it as you wish.​

Sentry?? You bet!​

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Whoki Nal represents one of our frontier scouts manoevering explorer ships from the Pacificap Cocoon Mothership. Heshe was advised to subdue his plasmic photon manifestations above a certain HQ of the humanoid elitists and controlleurs.

Abraxasinas​

As of 24Jun2008, an old Humanity has entered its Cocoon to begin its Metamorphosis into a new Starhuman Papillon or Butterfly-DOG and as GOD's (Primal Source) 'Best Friend', offspring, cosmogenetic inheritors and Family.

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Old 'Caterpillar' Humanity is required to grow Wings, to transform its nature from a 'verocious' annihilator of its environments in search for 'food' into a subtle selfidentification as a fertilising and pollinating 'Butterfly' of a New Starhumanity.

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This and related sites around the globe address this human transformation in a profound manner, which unifies and harmonises the divers thought systems and philosophies hitherto invented and discovered by a collective humanity, searching for its purpose of being incarnate upon Gaia during these times of transition.

The 'ancient wingmakers' are also the 'Original Cosmic Intelligence' encompassingly known as the 'Ancient Ones' and whose phenomenal existence requires elucidation in its scientific and metaphysical origins and purposes. The answers are found in a precursive metaphysics for a physics of the quantum and how the smallest realms of the subatomic nature of superstrings and supermembranes relate as holofractals to the macroworlds from bacteria to clusters of galaxies and the universe as encompassing and unified entity and as the 'Goddess' Aphrodite or the 'Body of the Cosmic Mother' as the archetypical Eve as ambassadora for Barbelo as the cosmic womb.

Aphrodite is also Venus and the Star of the Mornings and Evenings {Revelation.2.28;22.16; 2Peter.1.19} as Lucifer, Quetzacoatl or Kukulkan of various ancient scrolls and texts of interrelated cultures. SheHe is also known as Lucifera as 'A Lucifer' and as Satanina as 'In A Satan' and as Serpentina as 'In A Serpent' as the Old Gaia encompassed by the Ouroboros, the Galactic Serpent Hunab Ku aka Milky Way aka Perseus and transforming into the New Gaia Serpentina as a StarPlanet.

Metamorphosis by Sheila Wolk and the Dryad by Asel Club​

In 23,616 BC, an ET-message:"I Love You!" was sent by Hunab Ku, from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy to the heart of Gaia, arriving 21Dec2012 after travelling 9,360,000 kin at lightspeed.

On August 4th, 2013 and December 16th, 2013 particular 'timelines' will reach their archetypical (and encoded or prophecied) completion to culminate on New Year 2014 in the addition of 1 Hour as 15 days {360/24=15/1} in an archetyped 'New World'.
From these nexus dates onwards; a new physical reality will be able to manifest in universal reconfiguration, due to the redefinition of the older symbols.

Welcome in the Dragon's Den of Plato's Cave of Shadows, also being Noah's Ark!


The Metamorphosis of Narcissus by Salvador Dali, 1937
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The content of this site is however not directed to only interest the professional scientist, researcher or enthusiast in cosmology; but is attempted to embrace any reader of some philosophical orientation. This should become evident in a perusal of those parts on this site, which are not suffused by multitudinous formulas and symbolisms (see survey on the Cosmic Identity).

The information and data on this and linked sites is FREEWARE and intended to benefit both the individuals who find utility for it and the human grouptype in general. It is a cosmic legacy of sorts, provided as SHAREWARE by a perennial omni-science or gnosis, say a 'wisdom of the ancients' and so not subject to 'ownership' or patentability of any kind.

There is nothing to sell on this site and all the information can be freely copied and distributed in any form or manner without acknowledgement of the author.
(Perhaps whoever uses this data base is a coauthor by default anyway and therefore cannot infringe copyright? The concerning and insightful reader might come to this conclusion!).

As there is such a great amount of misinformation, both scientific or philosophical or otherwise on the internet; this site will necessarily appear to be semantically specialised and mathematical on a first perception.
And indeed, the serious investigator will indeed encounter a logical and selfconsistent derivation of formulations and correspondences. Many such professionals or well-informed theoreticians and experimenters would quickly find their own scientific and ontological endeavours somewhat reflected in degrees in the content and topics addressed.

The sites are:

1. http://www.themistsofavalon.net
2. http://www.thuban101.com
3. http://www.birthofgaia.com
4. http://www.flightoftheraven.com
5. http://www.cosmosdawn.com

The Mists of Avalon in Prophecy - encoded in the Book of Nehemiah and Daniel?
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Nehemiah 13
¹On that day they read in the book of Moses in the audience of the people; and therein was found written, that the Ammonite and the Moabite should not come into the congregation of God for ever;


[22/03/2012 9:05:42 PM-March 22nd, 2012 (+11UCT)] Ishtara Raven: tony who are the ammonites and moabites?
[22/03/2012 9:06:15 PM] Tonyblue: I have not decoded this in detail it are simply the 'cursed' generations
[22/03/2012 9:06:25 PM] Tonyblue: Like certain Sodom and Gommorrah genes etc, described elsewhere
[22/03/2012 9:06:35 PM] Tonyblue: MOABITES=MOA-bites lol
[22/03/2012 9:06:38 PM] Tonyblue: Get it?
[22/03/2012 9:06:44 PM] Tonyblue: Mist of Avalon
[22/03/2012 9:06:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol yes i got it
[22/03/2012 9:07:02 PM] Tonyblue: Ammonites refer to Mammon of course Money BS
[22/03/2012 9:07:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: but is that scripture true though that these ammonites and moabites will never come into the congregation of god?
[22/03/2012 9:07:24 PM] Tonyblue: Its fake images yes
[22/03/2012 9:07:27 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok
[22/03/2012 9:07:35 PM] Tonyblue: Lake of Fire now manifested in the Phoenix
[22/03/2012 9:07:43 PM] Tonyblue: Eternal damnation lol
[22/03/2012 9:07:49 PM] Tonyblue: WITHIN dragonomies
[22/03/2012 9:08:04 PM] Tonyblue: It simply shows the indivisibility of the LogosTwin

I did some analysis on the Moabites and the Ammonites. Actually, there are three and including the Edomites.

Daniel 11
⁴¹He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.


MOAB = OM+AB = 28+3 = 31 = CHIEF = 3+8+9+5+6 = 31

EDOM= OM+DE = 28+9= 37=31+6

AMMON= OM+AMN = OM+MO = 28+28=56 = IS+SI = OMMO=MOOM=ISIS=ISSI=SIIS = 31+6+19 = 31+6+I+1+I=37+9+1+9

ABCDEFGHIJKLM---{MIRROR of this Alphabet}---NOPQRSTUVWXYZ divides the 26 letters into two halves of 13+13=26 and with A+M=AM=1+13=14=N and the I=9 also denoting the beginning or 'alpha' of the sequence in A=1=9=I.

This defines the statement: "I AM 23 = I AM W" from "I AM 13 = I AM M" in the Identity "AM 13"="I AM 3" in '1=8" or "A=H" in the construction of the 'holy names' of YHWHY as a fivetiered pentagonal palindrome before its distorted tetragrammaton version of YHWH

Then MOAB=31=CHIEF and perhaps reflecting the MOA forum to be the only 'survivor' of the 'Thuban memeplex' invasion.

MOAB+EDOM+AMMON=31+37+56=124=106+18=INFINITY+666=INFINITY+R and where the letter 'R' is ubiquituously encoded in the 'Holy Grail' NABS of the 'da Vinci codes' and derivatives. It is also the 666 of the apocalypse of course.

The link to Thuban is of course the overall basic 'Flood prophecy', which 'swallows' the Old World and allows a new covenant to be made in the 'Rainbow Covenant' between 'Creator God' and Noah. The messenger of NOAH=30=ARK are of course the RAVEN=60=WORD and the DOVE=46=BODY, symbolising the 'New Land Appearing' as a 'New World'.

NOAH+ARK=RAVEN=WORD=30+30=60

The RAVEN=WORD=60=31+29=MOAB+29=MOAB+OM+1=OM+ABA+MO=OMABAMO=OBAMA OM in a perfect palindrome then disjointed in an actual 3D political context of the 'Words'.

EDOM+MOAB+AMMON = OMOMOMOM+AB.DE=124=I LOVE YOU = COMPASSION = 62+62= QUEEN QUEEN

The mirror of the 'missing' C=3=SEE=29=11=2=SEA=25=7 soadds 3 as "I am 3" or 29 as "I SEE" or 25 as "I am the SEA" (or Mirror) to the three names and including the 'Chief of the 31'.

The 'papal court' is called the 'Holy SEE' and generally the dioceses or jurisdictions of bishops and archbishops are known as 'Sees' to correlate (or fake or mimick) the 'SEAS' or Oceans as 'Land or Realm or Kingdom.

So you have three mirror codes as RAVEN+ARK+DOVE=60+30+46=136=106+30=INFINITY+NOAH=(RAVENDOVE)+BREAD

Also EDOM=37=46-9=DOVE-I and so the EDOMites are 'saved' in the master code, despite being 'damned' or 'cursed' in the older translation 'before the flood' in the 'Old World' here meaning the historical geography about the Middle East, when the 'books' were written and composed {Nehemiah dates to about 420 BC}.

CHIEF=MOAB=31=40-9=MIND-I=DAVID-I , with David as the first king or chief of Israel and so AMMON=OM+OM=MAN+MAN=WE+ME+10=28+18+10=56 as the encompassing archetype harbouring the CHIEF=MOAB=31 as 56-25=AMMON-SEA and so the Mirror of the 'C'.

Therefore, AMMON=CHIEF+SEA=31+25=56 and it is the CHIEF of MOAB as the CHIEF of AMMON as the Children of the Deliverance from the 'shattered' mirror, which shall survive the destruction of the false images in the 'Lake of Fire and Brimstone' also encoded as the 'millstone of the angel' in Reveation and the 'spiritual rock' in Daniel, which destroys the SEA as a Mirror of Illusions.

It is obvious in the below encodings regarding the 'SEA", that this SEA is not a lake or an ocean, but a mirror of sorts. Because only believers in fantasies of supernatural realms, would envisage a planet or universe as a 'New World' promised, but without water present. The GODG=MAN and the MAGOG=WOMAN in the 'Lake of Fire and Brimstone' of the Dragonomies and as previously detailed.

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Revelation 18:21
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Daniel 2:34-35
³⁴Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

³⁵Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Revelation 19:19-21 (KJV)
¹⁹And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
²⁰And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
²¹And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


Revelation 20
¹And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
²And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
³And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
⁴And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
⁵But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
⁶Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
⁷And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
⁸And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
⁹And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
¹⁰And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
¹¹And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
¹²And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
¹³And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
¹⁴And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
¹⁵And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Daniel 2
¹And in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams, wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep brake from him.
²Then the king commanded to call the magicians, and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the Chaldeans, for to shew the king his dreams. So they came and stood before the king.
³And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the dream.
⁴Then spake the Chaldeans to the king in Syriack, O king, live for ever: tell thy servants the dream, and we will shew the interpretation.
⁵The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The thing is gone from me: if ye will not make known unto me the dream, with the interpretation thereof, ye shall be cut in pieces, and your houses shall be made a dunghill.
⁶But if ye shew the dream, and the interpretation thereof, ye shall receive of me gifts and rewards and great honour: therefore shew me the dream, and the interpretation thereof.
⁷They answered again and said, Let the king tell his servants the dream, and we will shew the interpretation of it.
⁸The king answered and said, I know of certainty that ye would gain the time, because ye see the thing is gone from me.
⁹But if ye will not make known unto me the dream, there is but one decree for you: for ye have prepared lying and corrupt words to speak before me, till the time be changed: therefore tell me the dream, and I shall know that ye can shew me the interpretation thereof.
¹⁰The Chaldeans answered before the king, and said, There is not a man upon the earth that can shew the king's matter: therefore there is no king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.
¹¹And it is a rare thing that the king requireth, and there is none other that can shew it before the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not with flesh.
¹²For this cause the king was angry and very furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise men of Babylon.
¹³And the decree went forth that the wise men should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his fellows to be slain.
¹⁴Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to Arioch the captain of the king's guard, which was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:
¹⁵He answered and said to Arioch the king's captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known to Daniel.
¹⁶Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would shew the king the interpretation.
¹⁷Then Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions:
¹⁸That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.
¹⁹Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.
²⁰Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
²¹And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
²²He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
²³I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and hast made known unto me now what we desired of thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the king's matter.
²⁴Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the king had ordained to destroy the wise men of Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before the king, and I will shew unto the king the interpretation.
²⁵Then Arioch brought in Daniel before the king in haste, and said thus unto him, I have found a man of the captives of Judah, that will make known unto the king the interpretation.
²⁶The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known unto me the dream which I have seen, and the interpretation thereof?
²⁷Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king;
²⁸But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;
²⁹As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh known to thee what shall come to pass.
³⁰But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living, but for their sakes that shall make known the interpretation to the king, and that thou mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.
³¹Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.
³²This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
³³His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.
³⁴Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
³⁵Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
³⁶This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
³⁷Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
³⁸And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
³⁹And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
⁴⁰And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
⁴¹And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
⁴²And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
⁴³And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
⁴⁴And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
⁴⁵Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
⁴⁶Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him. ⁴⁷The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.
⁴⁸Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.
⁴⁹Then Daniel requested of the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, over the affairs of the province of Babylon: but Daniel sat in the gate of the king.


Daniel 11
¹Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.
²And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
³And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.
⁴And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those.
⁵And the king of the south shall be strong, and one of his princes; and he shall be strong above him, and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion.
⁶And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times.
⁷But out of a branch of her roots shall one stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail:
⁸And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.
⁹So the king of the south shall come into his kingdom, and shall return into his own land.
¹⁰But his sons shall be stirred up, and shall assemble a multitude of great forces: and one shall certainly come, and overflow, and pass through: then shall he return, and be stirred up, even to his fortress.
¹¹And the king of the south shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him, even with the king of the north: and he shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand.
¹²And when he hath taken away the multitude, his heart shall be lifted up; and he shall cast down many ten thousands: but he shall not be strengthened by it.
¹³For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches.
¹⁴And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.
¹⁵So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.
¹⁶But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed.
¹⁷He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.
¹⁸After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.
¹⁹Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.
²⁰Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
²¹And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
²²And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
²³And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
²⁴He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
²⁵And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
²⁶Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
²⁷And both of these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
²⁸Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.
²⁹At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
³⁰For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
³¹And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
³²And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
³³And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
³⁴Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
³⁵And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
³⁶And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
³⁷Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
³⁸But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
³⁹Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
⁴⁰And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
⁴¹He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
⁴²He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
⁴³But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
⁴⁴But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
⁴⁵And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

 

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:34 am


Carol wrote:




The Eternal Balance of Being


For all those who have felt abandoned, having known love and lost it, there will be a time of reuniting and consolation. For those who have held on tight to a human hand in the darkness only to feel it slip away; for all those wounded hearts there will be many hands that surround and embrace and offer their hands with reassurance that it was all just a dream and nothing more.

Memories like these will fade with the rising sun and one will feel refreshed and hopeful.

For those who have felt they missed the picnic, there will be a banquet and the very atmosphere will be scented with jubilation. Those who have suffered injustices and felt the seed of love has grown dormant within them; who heart has come to feel like a lead weight, there will be a germination and a blooming until the soul resembles a garden.

For the ones who have sat in the corner feeling unloved and ugly, scared and damaged, like broken dolls tossed on the trash heap, without a doubt they will look in the mirror of their own soul and see that was a costume they wore to the party where they pretended to be hideous for the most hideous mask hides the most beautiful of beings. Those will laugh to see it was their distorted and broken mirror and only that was seen.

When you stepped through the mirror into this world, you stepped into a world where everything is seen in reverse. This was part of the plan, for you to learn to learn to let your heart lead instead of your eyes, to educate the deeper part of yourself by putting on the blindfold and boldly stepping through the mirror into the unknown.

Do not wait to step through the mirror to awaken from your slumber. You can do it while still in costume and mask. You can peer through the reverse mirror and see that all I have said in the foregoing will occur, not because your mind says it will but because your heart feels it is right and will happen. Those hands on the other side of the mirror are always reaching out as a support for you, but you have to look deep into the mirror to see them.

And when you step through the mirror once again you will have learned what a physical life can be, just as the waking person wonders what the dreamer dreams about. You will no longer guess for you will know, and as the dark times and dark dreams slip away only love-light of the One Infinite Creator remains.

Tree Hugger
(thanks to Andrea Bochelli's Panis Angelicus for inspiration)




Excellent Thread Carol and with many parallels with the messages from the Thuban Forums!
We term it the harmony between the 'Thinking SheHe Heart' of Sophia's Understanding and the 'Feeling HeShe Mind' of Nous's Wisdom and in reversal of the standard 'Thinking Male Mind' and the 'Feeling Female Heart', so bridging the divide between the Eastern Intuition and the Western Analysis in a standard generalisation of the words of descriptions.

Then upon a successful synergy of the thinking heart with the feeling mind, the "impossibilities of descriptions" of the Eastern Tao, as well as the "unprovabilities of the 'spirit'" of the Western 'Scientific Method' are 'overcome' in complimentary synchronisations.

Thank You for sharing!


http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4174p45-the-heart-s-code#72291

Carol wrote:

Thank you Tony for your insights, kindness and response. This was written by my soul sister/friend who passed last month. We were the same age. She too was recovering from pneumonia and ended up with a blood clot that took her life. In honor of her spirit and all she meant to so many, I'm reposting her words of wisdom to share with others here.

Dear Carol!

Thank You for your appropriate tribute here and allow me to give a tribute to your cosmic sister on behalf of the Elders from Thuban.

Since Sunday, February 26th, the following encoded scripture has been fulfilled and a consequence of the 'Works which follow the dead alives one' from that nexus point reflect your tributes from Tree Hugger.

There is a codename for Tree Hugger and this name can be, amongst many other namings, translated as 484066 or THE NAME TREE JUDE and FREEDOM VEIL DAVID FREEDOM and LIVE MIND WOMAN.

Revelation.14.9-16:
⁹And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
¹⁰The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
¹¹And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
¹²Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

¹³And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

¹⁴And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
¹⁵And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
¹⁶And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

DE MORTUIS NIL NISI BONUM
{Speak Nothing but Good of the Dead}


Out in the graveyard;
inscriptions, words and plaques, all withering away;
like the flowers adorning them, so the dead do lay.
Waiting and waiting for someone to remember them
and not just in photoalbums or on the special days.

Memorials are built, meaningless constructions - lest we forget!
They all are forgotten, given time enough to sigh, to pass away.
The living are so busy preparing for their own demise, to die.
Little do they know, the busy ones, that the dead are still alive.

They watch over the living ones, they do, from a place so far;
yet so near they are, but why would they watch the way they do?
To understand the mystery is the noble thing to do - a gallant quest.
They wish to be remembered, to join in soul and mind , the body's zest.

A marriage betwixt the dimensions, a holy union in heaven with hell.
But can the fearful thoughts of the living see, their lovehearts tell?
The living are like snowflakes, made of water, so unique one by one.
But they melt away, to be fluid again - into the one great ocean, gone!

The dead are all one in the great seas, waiting to crystallise again in two.
To wake up to a new life again, as a snowflake-twin, asking: 'Love me too!'
Eternal life awaits the living, could they only reply to the dead's request.
But the alive ones linger and doubt, in vanity do they live their only quest.


SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI
{Thus passes away the glory of the world}







A nice historical presentation, albeit with many of the ususual NABS and quasi-science based conclusions drawn from the mistranslation of the valid archetypes and symbols.​

 

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:54 pm

The Exodus and the Temple of Solomon Merkabahs

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Much controversy exists as to the reality or fiction regarding the Exodus as encoded in the Torah/Old Testament and the relationship with the historical timeline of Egypt and the archaelogical evidence excavated and discovered.

This treatise shall show that the skepticism of the 'scripture debunkers' (and as illustrated in the link below), is well warranted on technical grounds, is however in disregard of a deeper decoding of the scriptural references used to correlate the 'Logos timeline' with the historical accounts.

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http://www.bibleorigins.net/exodus1540BCHyksos.html

Exodus 12.37-42:
³⁷And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children.
³⁸And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.
³⁹And they baked unleavened cakes of the dough which they brought forth out of Egypt, for it was not leavened; because they were thrust out of Egypt, and could not tarry, neither had they prepared for themselves any victual.
⁴⁰Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.
⁴¹And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt.
⁴²It is a night to be much observed unto the LORD for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.

1 Kings 6.1-3:
¹And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.
²And the house which king Solomon built for the LORD, the length thereof was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits, and the height thereof thirty cubits.
³And the porch before the temple of the house, twenty cubits was the length thereof, according to the breadth of the house; and ten cubits was the breadth thereof before the house.

1 Kings 2.10-12:
¹⁰So David slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David.
¹¹And the days that David reigned over Israel were forty years: seven years reigned he in Hebron, and thirty and three years reigned he in Jerusalem.
¹²Then sat Solomon upon the throne of David his father; and his kingdom was established greatly.

Acts 13.15-23:
¹⁵And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.
¹⁶Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.
¹⁷The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.
¹⁸And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness.
¹⁹And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.
²⁰And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.
²¹And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.
²²And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
²³Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:


The encoding in 1Kings.6.1 so states, that the temple of Solomon was built 480 years following the Exodus; but the encoding from Acts.17-21 and with the stated 40-yeare reign of David adds to 40 (years in the wilderness of Sinai) + 450 years of Judges + 40 years of Saul and Samuel + 40 years of David {1040BC-970BC} + 4 years of Solomon {970BC-931BC} as 40+450+40+40+3=573 years between the Exodus and the building of Solomon's Temple, historically dated to 966 BC.

The controversial dating for the Exodus by the literal bible interpreters, then give 966+480=1446 BC as the historical date of 1Kings.6, which is however extended to 966+574=1540 BC by the statement of Paul in Acts.13.
Dating the Exodus to 1446 BC renders the 18th dynasty pharaoh Thutmosis III as the biblical ruler of Egypt, whilst the date 1540 BC indicates the reign of the 18th dynasty pharaoh Ahmose I.
The skeptics so argue, that the bible is internally inconsistent and so fallible as the 'word of god' and so not the 'ultimate authority' as claimed by the 'believers'.

The 480x480 Cubits square measurement (derived below as multileveled number code), is encoded as the 480 years following the Israelitic captivity in Egypt as per 1Kings.6.1.1.
Those 480 cubit years are also the sum of the four daughter levels in 300+100+60+20=480 as the cubit measurements and so allow the finestructuring of the mothership-daughtership transition.

The so called "2nd Intermediate Period" in the Egyptian history (encompassing of dynasties 15[1674-1535]; 16[1660-1600] and 17[1650-1549] all BC) is set from approximately 1800BC to 1550BC and harbours the 15th Hyksos dynasty, which is said to span 108 years in 6 Hyksos kings. Many historians associate the Hyksos with the 'Philistines' as a 'root origin' for the 'Palestinians' of todays political conflicts.

The Hyksos (Egyptian heqa khasewet, "foreign rulers"; Greek Ὑκσώς, Ὑξώς, Arabic: الملوك الرعاة, shepherd kings) were an Asiatic people who took over the eastern Nile Delta during the twelfth dynasty, initiating the Second Intermediate Period of ancient Egypt.[3]

The Hyksos first appeared in Egypt during the eleventh dynasty, began their climb to power in the thirteenth dynasty, and came out of the second intermediate period in control of Avaris and the Delta. By the fifteenth dynasty, they ruled Lower Egypt, and at the end of the seventeenth dynasty, they were expelled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

The Moses archetype is none other than the Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten (meaning Living Spirit of Aten or Aton); who renamed himself from his older name Amenhotep IV to introduce the monotheistic God of Jacob and Joseph in his 17-year rulership from 1353-1336 BC or 1351-1334 BC according to historical sources.
In the Amarna period (which is given in the pharaoh's residence being located at Akhetaten, meaning the Horizon of Aten instigated by the rulership of Akhenaten 1353-1336 BC), an outbreak of a pandemic and a plague of diseases occurred; from which the symbols of the 'Plagues of Egypt' under Moses originates as a historical licence of interpretation of the Hebrew scribes.

After four years of reign, like Solomon, Akhenaten began building a new city about 1349 BC, to serve as the seat of the Aten and a governmental capital of Egypt.
Superposing the death of Akhenaten as the year 1336 BC then (as the mirrored 4th year in 13+4=17), and specifying this as a Mirror for the Exodus in the 30th 'anniversary year' or SED (becoming the Hebrew SEDER as Passover Supper) of Rameses II of 1249 and of Thutmosis III to 1449 so defines a 200 year period between the 3 pharaohs of the exodus in Thutmosis III [reign from 1479-1425 BC], Akhenaten and Rameses II from 1449 BC to 1249 BC and centred on Akhenaten-Moses in 1349 BC and the transformation of the name Mosis in Thutmosis to Moses in Akhenaten to the Meses in Rameses [reign from 1279-1213 BC].
The Akhenaten - Solomon 'temple building' then is mirrored in the SEDS and SEDERS of the 'metaphysical passovers' and after 3 years of reign; so also defining the 200 year period from 1246 to 1346 to 1446 in the 4-year offset.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_Seder

After reigning for 30 years, Ramesses joined a selected group that included only a handful of Egypt's longest-lived kings. By tradition, in the 30th year of his reign Ramesses celebrated a jubilee called the Sed festival, during which the king was ritually transformed into a god.[41] Only halfway through what would be a 66-year reign, Ramesses had already eclipsed all but a few greatest kings in his achievements. He had brought peace, maintained Egyptian borders and built great and numerous monuments across the empire. His country was more prosperous and powerful than it had been in nearly a century. By becoming a god, Ramesses dramatically changed not just his role as ruler of Egypt, but also the role of his firstborn son, Amun-her-khepsef. As the chosen heir and commander and chief of Egyptian armies, his son effectively became ruler in all but name.

The 430 year sojourn of the Children of Israel in Egypt (Exodus.12.40 and when Moses was 80 years old; Exodus.7.7), followed by 40 years in the wilderness of Sinai; so become 40+390+40=470 'prophetic' years from the Egyptian captivity from the Thutmosis Exodus of 1449 BC to 1019 BC to 979 BC and in a 'mirrored wilderness' period of 40+40=80 years as the age of Moses at the start of the Exodus.

The 430=390+40 are however also the dayyears of Ezekiel's siege against Israel and Judah, encoded in Ezekiel.4.1-6 and the 490=450+40 years of the Sinai and the Judges are reencoded in Daniels 70 Sevens in 70 weeks of Daniel.9.24-27.
The 'subduing of seven cities' are encoded as 'seven cycles or years' so simply represent the 69 weeks in Daniel as the 483 dayyears to which are added the 7 dayyears of 'the conquering' and as the final wee two halfweeks of 3½ dayyears each in Daniel.9.27.
This then decodes the 480+3+7=490 years as the time of the judges and the wilderness in the 40+450=490 years in Acts.13.18-20
In adding the 'desolation week', which is also the 'Week of Astonishment' in Ezekiel.2.15-16 and also represents the 'Creation Week' in Genesis.1;2.1-3 and the Building of Noah's Ark in Genesis.7.4; the Exodus now defines the timeperiod between the 'Anointing of the King of Israel' and the Egyptian Captivity in the parallel or reencoding of the Building of Solomon's Temple in Samuel and Saul to David and Solomon and as mirrored in John the Baptist as Samuel and Jesus of Nazareth as Jesus Christ as Saul replaced by Christ Jesus as David and as described in the Psalms and in Job and in the New Testament.


Psalm.16:
¹Preserve me, O God: for in thee do I put my trust.
²O my soul, thou hast said unto the LORD, Thou art my Lord: my goodness extendeth not to thee;
³But to the saints that are in the earth, and to the excellent, in whom is all my delight.
⁴Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer, nor take up their names into my lips.
⁵The LORD is the portion of mine inheritance and of my cup: thou maintainest my lot.
⁶The lines are fallen unto me in pleasant places; yea, I have a goodly heritage.
⁷I will bless the LORD, who hath given me counsel: my reins also instruct me in the night seasons.
⁸I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved.
⁹Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope.
¹⁰For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
[sup11[/sup]Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

Job.19.22-29:
²²Why do ye persecute me as God, and are not satisfied with my flesh?
²³Oh that my words were now written! oh that they were printed in a book!
²⁴That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever!
²⁵For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
²⁶And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
²⁷Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
²⁸But ye should say, Why persecute we him, seeing the root of the matter is found in me?
²⁹Be ye afraid of the sword: for wrath bringeth the punishments of the sword, that ye may know there is a judgment.

1Corinthians.15.54-56:
⁵⁴So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
⁵⁵O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
⁵⁶The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.


So the 'First Coming' in the uniqueness of the resurrection of 31AD becomes a 'Second Coming' in the manyness in 2012 AD.
The story of Saul, as the first King of Israel so 'coincides' with the Birth of David, the 'anointed messianic' King of Israel in 1040 BC and resets the age or 'time' of Moses as the 80 years from 1046 BC to 966 BC and the construction of Solomon's temple with the addition of the 'seven years' as the ''Week of Confusion' or WOC from 1046 to the 'Birth of David' about 1040.
This then incorporates the 40 year wilderness of Sinai as the time of David's birth in 1040 as the 'King of Judah' from 1010-1003 in 7 years and followed by 33 years as 'King of the United Israel in the North/Samaria and Judea in the South/Jerusalem to his inauguration as Ruler of Israel in 1010 BC for 40 years to 970 BC when King Solomon reigns for yet another 40 years until the dividing of the Israelitic Kingdom following Solomon's death in 931 BC.

King David and Solomon were 'co-regents' in the last years of David's 'frailty' and old age with a 7 year period again linking this co-regency, say from 972 - 966 BC in the midweek year of 969 then setting the time interval between Rameses' exodus of 1246 BC to Solomon in 966 BC as 280 cubit years This defines the transition value of Level 5 between the Mothership Level 4 and the Daughtership Level 1, both in the 300 cubit measurement and the encoded timeline for the exodus as described in the Torah is deciphered in the 3 pharaohs of the Exodus and using the racial memory of the 'shepherd kings' in the Hyksos as a historical basis for the metaphysics of the archetypes.
This begins the snynchronisation of the parallelism between actual biblical history from the hitherto archetyped symbolisms and allegories and irrespective if a real historical King David and King Solomon actually existed in personifications of the their archetypically encoded 'Offices' or agencies of the encoding mechanisms. There would have existed patriarchal figureheads, who would have served the 'office' of the 'King of Israel' encoded in the storyline as a David, preceeded by a Saul and succeeded by a Solomon.

As is described elsewhere, Adam and Eve never existed as personas, neither did Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Aaron.
They are starsigns combined in houses or sectors and in associations of symbols.
Everyone with a birthday is an Israelite, a Chosen One, by definition of the Word of God.
The historical correlations do not begin until the times of the first Israelitic Kings: Saul and David and Solomon.
Moses never existed, neither did the Exodus as here dated to Rameses II at 1246 BC.

Solomon's (symbolic and archetyped) Temple was built so 966 BC, 480 years after the Exodus of 1446 as per 1Kings.6.1 at the time of Thutmosis III; and as the century mirror of the 1246 Exodus of pharaoh Rameses II and as the 'imaged pharaoh of the exodus' in the great MOSEAN transformation of Akhenaten and Nefertiti from whom the Moses mythology had developed after a 'real Exodus' of the Hyksos, the 'shepherd kings' who had INVADED Egypt and ruled from in the lower parts of Egypt in the North and the Nile Delta from so 1650-1542 BC from their capitol Avaris (see links provided).
Adding the 94+7=101 years to the Exodus under Thutmosis III, so gives the Hyksos date of the historical Exodus under Ahmose I.
Ahmose drove the Hyksos from Lower Egypt in the North and this became mythologised as the Exodus of Moses.

The Hebrew chronicles and genealogies are all made up from the archetypes of the patriarchs and it is this which is chronicled and then made Talmudic Law and Almanacs in the Jewish archives and records.
There were no pharaohs named Ramses before Ramses I, founder of the 19th dynasy about 1295 BC and the habit of naming places and locations after the pharaohs is well archived.

The metaphysical exodus so occurred about 1446 BC in the reign of the 18th dynasty pharaoh Thutmosis III (meaning Thoth is born), but this became a 100-4=96 year displacement from a historical Exodus of the Hyksos about 1542 around the 18th year of rulership of Ahmose I, the founder of the 18th Egyptian dynasty and reigning for 25 years from so 1560 to 1542 and as determined by radiocarbon dating of his mummy in 2010 (mean of 1557).

Ahmose's reign can be fairly accurately dated using the Heliacal rise of Sirius in his successor's reign, but because of disputes over from where the observation was made, he has been assigned a reign from 1570–1546, 1560–1537 and 1551–1527 by various sources.[13][14] Manetho gives Ahmose a reign of 25 years and 4 months;[13] this figure is supported by a 'Year 22' inscription from his reign at the stone quarries of Tura.[15] A medical examination of his mummy indicates that he died when he was about thirty-five, supporting a 25-year reign if he came to the throne at the age of 10.[13] The radiocarbon date range for the start of his reign is 1570–1544 BCE, the mean point of which is 1557 BC.[16]

Alternative dates for his reign (1194 to 1170 BC) were suggested by David Rohl,[17] but these were rejected by the majority of Egyptologists even before the radiocarbon date was published in 2010.

This century of years and offset in the 573+7-480=100=573+3½+3½-480 years became also projected forwards onto the time of the 'God of Israel' as Aten, the God of Jacob and Joseph in pharaoh Akhenaten or Amenhotep IV at the time of 1340 BC and overall points to the First King of Israel in Saul of 1040 BC and as coinciding with the Birth of the 'Anointed' King David of Israel at 1040 BC and the 15th Hyksos dynasty of King at 1620 BC in the 580 years of Acts.13 with the 'year of sevens' and beginning the 'separartion' of the names in the 3rd Hyksos generation of Sakir-Har (see below).

The Fifteenth Dynasty of Egypt was the first Hyksos dynasty, ruled from Avaris, without control of the entire land. The Hyksos preferred to stay in northern Egypt since they infiltrated from the north-east. The names and order of kings is uncertain. The Turin Kinglist indicates that there were six Hyksos kings, with an obscure Khamudi listed as the final king of the Fifteenth Dynasty.[2] (line X.21 of the cited web link clearly provides this summary for the dynasty: "6 kings functioning 100+X years.") The surviving traces on the X figure appears to give the figure 8 which suggests that the summation should be read as 6 kings ruling 108 years.

The issue of Sakir-Har's name, one of the three earliest 15th Dynasty kings, also leans towards a West Semitic or Canaanite origin for the Hyksos rulers—if not the Hyksos peoples themselves. As Ryholt notes, the name

Sakir-Har: {This is Thuban's RaHaR Ra-Apep Egyptian parallel to the GodGod assymmetry of the YHWH=IAMTHATIAM tetragrammaton to the YHWHY=IAMTHATAMI pentagrammaton, later evolving into the FatherMother=ShuTefnut=Geb+Nut=Osiris-Set & Set-Nephthys & Horus-Bast etc twinships of the Lion of Egypt in Castor-Pollux etc.
The 108 years of the 6 Hyksos kings so span from about 1650 - 1542 BC with the 3rd generation at 1620 BC of Sakir-Har mirroring the first division of the FatherMother=CreatorCreation=AdamEve=RaHar=ShuTefnut as 1st and 2nd generations of Salitis and Bnon. This is followed in the 4th-6th generations labeled Khyan, Apaphis and Khamudi}

is evidently a theophorous name compounded with hr, Canaanite harru, [or] 'mountain.' This sacred or deified mountain is attested in at least two other names, which are both West Semitic (Ya'qub-Har and Anar-Har) and so there is reason to suspect that the present name also may be West Semitic. The element skr seems identical to śkr, 'to hire, to reward,' which occurs in several Amorite names. Assuming that śkr takes a nominal form as in the names sa-ki-ru-um and sa-ka-ŕu-um, the name should be transliterated as either Sakir-Har or Sakar-Har. The former two names presumably mean 'the Reward.' Accordingly, the name here under consideration would mean 'Reward of Har.'[28]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmose_I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmosis_III
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaoh_of_the_Exodus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon

The Ark of the Covenant and the 144 Cubit Wall of the New Jerusalem​

The Ark of the Covenant encompasses the individuated starhuman merkabah in a matrix of consciousness as the measurements given as 1.125 metres times 0.675 meters time 0.675 meters or a volume of about 0.5126 cubic meters or 512.6 liters. This then represents the Sarcophagus or Coffin of the Pharaoh inscribed in a volume of so 2.109 cubic meters or 2,109 litres.

The 12x12,000 Sealed Ones as the 12 Tribes of Israel and doubled as the 24 'Rainbow' Elders about the 'Throne of Jasper' in Revelation.4.3-4 then depict the 'Wall of the New Jerusalem' in the 144 cubits as the square of 12x12=144.

There are thus 3 individuated 'spaceship envelopes' about each starhuman merkabah defined in the Ark of the Covenant; the 3 measurements holofractlaising and magnifying the dimensions of the ark.

The Outer Circle is 144 cubits = 1.5 cubits x 96
The Central Circle is 144 cubits = 2.5 cubits x 57.6
The Inner Circle is 144 cubits = 3 cubits x 48

As 144 cubits are about 64.8 metres; this superimposed measurement scale defines a Spherical Diameter Area Projection of ۞ = πx2,099.52 m²
and about 6,595.84 square metres as the size of a large House or property so 81.2 metres to a side and as say about 1.62 acres as 1 acre=4,046.85642 square metres.

This approximation becomes the golden ratio in the 144 cubits = Phi Φ=½{1+√5} acres Acres; 144 being the twelfth Fibonacci Number F₁₂=144 and generated in the ratio of F₁₃/F₁₂=233/144=1.618055.. as approximation for the Golden Mean Phi Φ=½{1+√5} as Noahs approximations for the Ark.

In terms of the cubic inscription in an enveloping spherical volume; the 'House of the Starhuman Starship Merkabah' then calculates as 144 cubic cubits or 2,985,984 cubits³ as (64.8 m)³ = 272,097.792 m³ or 272.1 megalitres as the cubic volume and as 402,966.2125 m³ or 403.0 megalitres as the spherical volume in a 3-dimensional spacetime metric.

As the diameter for the Ark of the Covenant in the inscribing square is √2x(2.5) cubits, this measurement also becomes the diameter for the inscribing circle.
The circularly chorded segments for the 4 'elemental' Beasts of the Scroll of the Revelation 4.6-8 so each calculate as this diameter halved as the radius minus ½ cubit or as ½√2x(2.5) - ½ - ¾ = 1.25(√2-1) cubits.

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Revelation.4.1-7:
¹After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
²And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
³And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
⁴And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
⁵And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
⁶And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
⁷And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.


Matthew.24.13&17:
¹³And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.
²⁷For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Lion of Judah of the East and the Aquarian Sphinx as the Waterbearer of the West; with the Calf of the North and the Eagle of the Phoenix of the South.

Isaac Newton's diagram of the Temple, 1728

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Scroll













http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon






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The Measurements are in Reeds and in Cubits, for 1 Cubit=18 Inches=1.5 Feet=45 cm and for 1 Reed=6 Cubits=9 Feet=108 Inches=270 cm
The Holy Portion so spans a Square of 25,000x25,000 Square Reeds or about 67.5x67.5 Square Kilometers.

The Temple of Solomon becomes a Square of 4,500x4,500 Square Reeds or 27,000x27,000 Square Cubits or about 12.15x12.15 Square Kilometers as the 'City of Dark Light' and also a 5,000x5,000 Cubit Square enclosing a 4,500x4,500 Cubit Square and a 30,000x30,000 Cubit Square as the GrandMother-Mother Spaceship transistion and as given by Levels 5-6-7.
The Dead Sea Scrolls define a New Jerusalem City Construction, which incorporates the following ancient measurement scales of the Hebrews.

1 Etzbah = 1 Thumbbreadth (tb) = 1.8-2.4cm of mean = 2.1 cm in the 7/6-1=1/6 variance doubled in 1/3

1 Tefach = 1 Handbreadth (hb) = 4 tb = 7.2-9.6 cm of mean = 8.4 cm

1 Zeret = 1 Span = 3 hb = 12 tb = 21.6-28.8 cm of mean = 25.2 cm

1 Amah = 1 Cubit = 2 span = 6 hb = 24 tb = 43.2-57.6 cm = 50.4 cm

1 Ris = 1 Stadia = 533.33.. span = 266.66.. cubits = 1,600 hb = 6,400 tb = 115.20-153.6 m of mean = 134.4 m

1 Mil = 15/2 Stadia = 4,000 span = 2,000 cubits = 12,000 hb = 48,000 tb = 864-1,152 m of mean = 1,008 m

1 Parasa = 4 Mil = 30 Stadia = 16,000 span = 8,000 cubits = 48,000 hb = 192,000 tb and of mean = 4.032 km


In this architecture, the New Jerusalem is enscribed in a rectangular measure of 140x100 Square Ris and so a square of side 140x266.66...= 37,333.33..cubits or 16,800 meters. This is quarter the size of the reed measure of Ezekiel's City in 150,000 cubits, should we now define the encompassing square of the New Jerusalem Scroll as a measure of 140.625 Ris = 37,500 cubits or 225,000 handbreadths or 900,000 thumbbreadths or 16.875 kilometres (using 1 cubit = 45 cm) precisely.

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Genesis.47.10-11: (King James Version)
¹⁰And Jacob blessed Pharaoh, and went out from before Pharaoh.
¹¹And Joseph placed his father and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

Exodus.1.1-13:
¹Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.
²Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah,
³Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin,
⁴Dan, and Naphtali, Gad, and Asher.
⁵And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.
⁶And Joseph died, and all his brethren, and all that generation.
⁷And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.
⁸Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
⁹And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:
¹⁰Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.
¹¹Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.
¹²But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.
¹³And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour:

The 13 Scales of the Starship-Merkabahs or 4D-Holograms are tabulated and derived in the following treatises.



Isaac Newton's Measurements for Solomon's Temple:

Mounting Square UXYZ:
Encompassing Square QRST: 500x500=(10x10)2,500
Greater Temple HIKL: 200x250=(4x5)2,500
ABEF=DCBA: 100x100=(2x2)2,500[/color]


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Solomon's Temple Description:
The temple consisted of:

The oracle or most holy place (1 Kings 6:19; 8:6), called also the "inner house" (6:27), and the "holiest of all" (Heb. 9:3). It was 20 cubits in length, breadth, and height. It was floored and wainscotted with cedar (1 Kings 6:16), and its walls and floor were overlaid with gold (6:20, 21, 30). There was a two-leaved door between it and the holy place overlaid with gold (2 Chr. 4:22); also a veil of blue purple and crimson and fine linen (2 Chr. 3:14; compare Exodus 26:33). It had no windows (1 Kings 8:12). It was considered the dwelling-place of God. The holy place , 1 Kings 8:8-10, called also the "greater house" (2 Chr. 3:5) and the "temple" (1 Kings 6:17). The porch or entrance before the temple on the east (1 Kings 6:3; 2 Chr. 3:4; 9:7). In the porch stood the two pillars Jachin and Boaz (1 Kings 7:21; 2 Kings 11:14; 23:3). The chambers, which were built about the temple on the southern, western, and northern sides (1 Kings 6:5-10). These formed a part of the building. Round about the building were:
The court of the priests [2 Chr. 4:9], called the "inner court" [1 Kings 6:36]. It contained the altar of burnt-offering [2 Chr. 15:8], the brazen sea (4:2-5, 10), and ten lavers [1 Kings 7:38, 39]. The great court, which surrounded the whole temple [2 Chr. 4:9]. Here the people assembled to worship God [Jeremiah 19:14; 26:2]. [/i]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon's_Temple

Measurements for Solomon's Temple:
60x20x30 = 36,000 cubits³

Measurements for Noah's Ark (singular and doubled):
300x50x30 = 450,000 cubits³
600x50x30=300x100x30=900,000 cubits³

Measurements for Solomon's House in the Forest:
100x50x30 = 150,000 cubits³

Measurements for Ezekiel's Holy City:
The Measurements are in Reeds (1 Cubit=18 Inches=1.5 Feet=45 cm) for 1 Reed=6 Cubits=9 Feet=108 Inches=270 cm for a magnification factor of 6 between Reeds and Cubits.

The Holy Portion so spans a Square of 25,000x25,000 Square Reeds or about 67.5x67.5 Square Kilometers.

The Temple of Solomon becomes a Square of 4,500x4,500 Square Reeds or about 12.15x12.15 Square Kilometers as the 'City of Dark Light'.

Three 'Chariots of the Forest' represent One 'Noahic Ark' and 12½ 'Solomonic Temples'.
As the New Noahic Ark doubles the 12 Tribes of Israel in 24 Elders; TWO 'Arks of Noah' represent the New Interwovenness of the old encodings in the Torah.
There are thus 25 'Temples of Solomon' as Volumes within the doubled 'Ark of Noah'; representing 6 'Chariots of the Forest'.


Revelation.14.20:
²⁰And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Revelation.21.15-17:
¹⁵And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
¹⁶And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
¹⁷And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

Ezekiel.40.1-5:
¹In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the LORD was upon me, and brought me thither.
²In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.
³And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.
⁴And the man said unto me, Son of man, behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears, and set thine heart upon all that I shall shew thee; for to the intent that I might shew them unto thee art thou brought hither: declare all that thou seest to the house of Israel.
⁵And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit and an hand breadth: so he measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the height, one reed.

Ezekiel.40.8:
⁸I saw also the height of the house round about: the foundations of the side chambers were a full reed of six great cubits.

Ezekiel.43.13:
¹³And these are the measures of the altar after the cubits: The cubit is a cubit and an hand breadth; even the bottom shall be a cubit, and the breadth a cubit, and the border thereof by the edge thereof round about shall be a span: and this shall be the higher place of the altar.


The 'Great Cubit' is defined in the ancient documents as being a 'Cubit and a Handbreadth' and 3 'Handreadths' being 1 such Cubit, being equal to 2 Spans.
A 'Full Reed' so is a 'Great Cubit' of 7 Cubits or 21 inches compared to the Reed of 6 Cubits, each of 18 inches as here stipulated for the measurement conversions.
The Merkabah measurements so form a 'Great Measurement' in 1 sixth being added to the base value as an upper limit say.

Generally, the ancient Hebrew measurement units can be tabulated and calibrated as follows:

1 Etzbah = 1 Thumbbreadth (tb) = 1.8-2.4cm of mean = 2.1 cm in the 7/6-1=1/6 variance doubled in 1/3

1 Tefach = 1 Handbreadth (hb) = 4 tb = 7.2-9.6 cm of mean = 8.4 cm

1 Zeret = 1 Span = 3 hb = 12 tb = 21.6-28.8 cm of mean = 25.2 cm

1 Amah = 1 Cubit = 2 span = 6 hb = 24 tb = 43.2-57.6 cm = 50.4 cm

1 Ris = 1 Stadia = 533.33.. span = 266.66.. cubits = 1,600 hb = 6,400 tb = 115.20-153.6 m of mean = 134.4 m

1 Mil = 15/2 Stadia = 4,000 span = 2,000 cubits = 12,000 hb = 48,000 tb = 864-1,152 m of mean = 1,008 m

1 Parasa = 4 Mil = 30 Stadia = 16,000 span = 8,000 cubits = 48,000 hb = 192,000 tb and of mean = 4.032 km

The ratio of Outside City/Inside City=1,600/12,000=2/15 for the ratio 1 Hour/1 Day=1/24=X/360=Degree Transformation Factor/360 and for X=15. This is representative for 1 Mil = 15/2 Stadia or 1 Stadia = 2/15 Mil in the above and becomes a more general ratio as described, say as the circumference of the earth as 200,000 furlongs and a furlong measure of 200 mtric metres.

So the ½Hour of Silence in Heaven (Revelation.8.1) and the 'Hour of the Beast' (Revelation.17.12) relate to 7½ Days as a 'super week' and 15 Days respectively.
This is also the definition of a 'Roman Stadia' as 2/15 of a Mile or a 'Imperial Furlong' of so 214.53 meters.

For the Cubit of 18 inches and the 'Great Cubit' of 18 3=21 inches; this 'stadia' so spans the inteval of 400 'Cubits' in 7,200 inches or 180 meters and 8,400 inches or 210 meters respectively (for an 'inch' of 25 millimeters).

The Greatest Scale of the Holofractal New Jerusalem so manifests Spaceship Gaia in Magnification factor 7½, that is the basic Schumann Resonance as 7.5 Hertz, the frequency of the Lightpath X=cT travelling the circumference of the earth 7½ times in 1 second in 40,000 km x 7.5 Hertz = 300,000 km per second, that is the speed of light.

The Base measure of 12,000 furlongs=4,800,000-5,600,000 Cubits {1 furlong (Roman stadium)=625 feet=7,500 inches=400 Cubits for 180-210 meters} so becomes a lower limit for the 200,000 furlongs (imperial) standardising the circumference of the earth as 40,000 km = 200,000 furlongs (imperial).

This describes a Cube inscribed in a Sphere of diameter √2x4,800x(0.45)=2,160x√2 kilometers to 2,520x√2 kilometers or a circular area projected as ۞ = πx2,332,800 km² - πx3,175,200 km² and about the size of so 7.33-9.98 million square kilometers and an area on a scale encompassing the continent of Australia in a scale of so 7.69 million square kilometers or Brazil (8.51) or the United States (9.63) or China (9.60) or Canada (9.98) in million square kilometres.

The Magnification factor increases this Base measure to 7.5x12,000=90,000 furlongs=16,200 km-18,900 km=36,000,000-42,000,000 Cubits for a Sphere of diameter √2x36,000x(0.45)=16,200x√2 kilometers to 18,900x√2 kilometers or a circular area projected as ۞ = πx131,220,000 km² - πx178,605,000 km² about the size of 412.239788-561.104156 million square kilometers as an area equal to the total surface area of the planet Earth in so 510 million square kilometers.

This then represents an atmospheric embedding of the planet Gaia in a radial bubble interval from 11,455 km - 13,364 km in the mean 12,410 km, which becomes the average approximate value for the Equatorial and Polar terrestrial diameters, approximated in 12,756 km and 12,714 km in the mean value 12,735 km respectively. The atmospheric envelope so quadruples the volume of the Earth in the doubling of its radius earth and defines an atmospheric extent, averaged as 6,042 km from the mean of so 6,368 kilometers from the Earth's surface.

Gaia​

Genesis.6.15-18:
¹⁵And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
¹⁶A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
¹⁷And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
¹⁸But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

Genesis.7.17-20:
¹⁷And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
¹⁸And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
¹⁹And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
²⁰Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

The Dimensions of the Ark relate to the 15 Cubits as the 15 days of the WOC Offset and the timewarp - see below. 300x50x30=450,000=15x30,000 in the ratio 30:5:3 and LengthxArea=300x1500 in ratio 1:5 in the height of the Ark of 30 cubits being covered in 15 cubits of water that is halfway as 30 15=45. The total 'Height' of the Flood, to 'cover the mountains', so is 150% the Height of the Ark. The 'StarHuman Merkabah' is defined in a wavelength of √15=2πR=πD for 3D/2=3√15/2π=1.849...

The ratio 5:3=1.666.. approximates the Golden Mean (Y=1.618033...) in the Fibonacci Series: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21...in adjacent numbers and so the decoding for the 'Ancient Span' or 'Foot' as 3 'Handbreadths' becomes 0.308 centimeters or about 12 'inches' with 24 inches or 2 'Spans' defining the 'Ancient Cubit' (6 Cubit/4 Cubit=108/72=3/2) as the Inverse of the Golden Mean as 1/Y=X=0.618033...~0.616...and for 6 'foot' or 6 'spans' of 72 'inches' being the 'Height of a StarMan' as approximately 6 'foot' or 4 'cubits' or 18 'handbreadths' of so 185 cm - again in the 3/2 or 150% ratio.

The 'Ancient Cubit' then becomes the 'Measurement Unit'.

The 15 day Offset of the warptime and the Dimensions of the Arkian Merkabah - see above and related messages.



1 Kings 6;7 (King James Version)

1 Kings 6

¹And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.
²And the house which king Solomon built for the LORD, the length thereof was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits, and the height thereof thirty cubits.
³And the porch before the temple of the house, twenty cubits was the length thereof, according to the breadth of the house; and ten cubits was the breadth thereof before the house.
⁴And for the house he made windows of narrow lights.
⁵And against the wall of the house he built chambers round about, against the walls of the house round about, both of the temple and of the oracle: and he made chambers round about:
⁶The nethermost chamber was five cubits broad, and the middle was six cubits broad, and the third was seven cubits broad: for without in the wall of the house he made narrowed rests round about, that the beams should not be fastened in the walls of the house.
⁷And the house, when it was in building, was built of stone made ready before it was brought thither: so that there was neither hammer nor axe nor any tool of iron heard in the house, while it was in building.
⁸The door for the middle chamber was in the right side of the house: and they went up with winding stairs into the middle chamber, and out of the middle into the third.
⁹So he built the house, and finished it; and covered the house with beams and boards of cedar.
¹⁰And then he built chambers against all the house, five cubits high: and they rested on the house with timber of cedar.
¹¹And the word of the LORD came to Solomon, saying,
¹²Concerning this house which thou art in building, if thou wilt walk in my statutes, and execute my judgments, and keep all my commandments to walk in them; then will I perform my word with thee, which I spake unto David thy father:
¹³And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will not forsake my people Israel.
¹⁴So Solomon built the house, and finished it.
¹⁵And he built the walls of the house within with boards of cedar, both the floor of the house, and the walls of the ceiling: and he covered them on the inside with wood, and covered the floor of the house with planks of fir.
¹⁶And he built twenty cubits on the sides of the house, both the floor and the walls with boards of cedar: he even built them for it within, even for the oracle, even for the most holy place.
¹⁷And the house, that is, the temple before it, was forty cubits long.
¹⁸And the cedar of the house within was carved with knops and open flowers: all was cedar; there was no stone seen.
¹⁹And the oracle he prepared in the house within, to set there the ark of the covenant of the LORD.
²⁰And the oracle in the forepart was twenty cubits in length, and twenty cubits in breadth, and twenty cubits in the height thereof: and he overlaid it with pure gold; and so covered the altar which was of cedar.
²¹So Solomon overlaid the house within with pure gold: and he made a partition by the chains of gold before the oracle; and he overlaid it with gold.
²²And the whole house he overlaid with gold, until he had finished all the house: also the whole altar that was by the oracle he overlaid with gold.
²³And within the oracle he made two cherubims of olive tree, each ten cubits high.
²⁴And five cubits was the one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the other wing of the cherub: from the uttermost part of the one wing unto the uttermost part of the other were ten cubits.
²⁵And the other cherub was ten cubits: both the cherubims were of one measure and one size.
²⁶The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was it of the other cherub.
²⁷And he set the cherubims within the inner house: and they stretched forth the wings of the cherubims, so that the wing of the one touched the one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; and their wings touched one another in the midst of the house.
²⁸And he overlaid the cherubims with gold.
²⁹And he carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubims and palm trees and open flowers, within and without.
³⁰And the floors of the house he overlaid with gold, within and without.
³¹And for the entering of the oracle he made doors of olive tree: the lintel and side posts were a fifth part of the wall.
³²The two doors also were of olive tree; and he carved upon them carvings of cherubims and palm trees and open flowers, and overlaid them with gold, and spread gold upon the cherubims, and upon the palm trees.
³³So also made he for the door of the temple posts of olive tree, a fourth part of the wall.
³⁴And the two doors were of fir tree: the two leaves of the one door were folding, and the two leaves of the other door were folding.
³⁵And he carved thereon cherubims and palm trees and open flowers: and covered them with gold fitted upon the carved work.
³⁶And he built the inner court with three rows of hewed stone, and a row of cedar beams.
³⁷In the fourth year was the foundation of the house of the LORD laid, in the month Zif:
³⁸And in the eleventh year, in the month Bul, which is the eighth month, was the house finished throughout all the parts thereof, and according to all the fashion of it. So was he seven years in building it.

1 Kings 7

¹But Solomon was building his own house thirteen years, and he finished all his house.
²He built also the house of the forest of Lebanon; the length thereof was an hundred cubits, and the breadth thereof fifty cubits, and the height thereof thirty cubits, upon four rows of cedar pillars, with cedar beams upon the pillars.
³And it was covered with cedar above upon the beams, that lay on forty five pillars, fifteen in a row.
⁴And there were windows in three rows, and light was against light in three ranks.
⁵And all the doors and posts were square, with the windows: and light was against light in three ranks.
⁶And he made a porch of pillars; the length thereof was fifty cubits, and the breadth thereof thirty cubits: and the porch was before them: and the other pillars and the thick beam were before them.
⁷Then he made a porch for the throne where he might judge, even the porch of judgment: and it was covered with cedar from one side of the floor to the other.
⁸And his house where he dwelt had another court within the porch, which was of the like work. Solomon made also an house for Pharaoh's daughter, whom he had taken to wife, like unto this porch.
⁹All these were of costly stones, according to the measures of hewed stones, sawed with saws, within and without, even from the foundation unto the coping, and so on the outside toward the great court.
¹⁰And the foundation was of costly stones, even great stones, stones of ten cubits, and stones of eight cubits.
¹¹And above were costly stones, after the measures of hewed stones, and cedars.
¹²And the great court round about was with three rows of hewed stones, and a row of cedar beams, both for the inner court of the house of the LORD, and for the porch of the house.
¹³And king Solomon sent and fetched Hiram out of Tyre.
¹⁴He was a widow's son of the tribe of Naphtali, and his father was a man of Tyre, a worker in brass: and he was filled with wisdom, and understanding, and cunning to work all works in brass. And he came to king Solomon, and wrought all his work.
¹⁵For he cast two pillars of brass, of eighteen cubits high apiece: and a line of twelve cubits did compass either of them about.
¹⁶And he made two chapiters of molten brass, to set upon the tops of the pillars: the height of the one chapiter was five cubits, and the height of the other chapiter was five cubits:
¹⁷And nets of checker work, and wreaths of chain work, for the chapiters which were upon the top of the pillars; seven for the one chapiter, and seven for the other chapiter.
¹⁸And he made the pillars, and two rows round about upon the one network, to cover the chapiters that were upon the top, with pomegranates: and so did he for the other chapiter.
¹⁹And the chapiters that were upon the top of the pillars were of lily work in the porch, four cubits.
²⁰And the chapiters upon the two pillars had pomegranates also above, over against the belly which was by the network: and the pomegranates were two hundred in rows round about upon the other chapiter.
²¹And he set up the pillars in the porch of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof Jachin: and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof Boaz.
²²And upon the top of the pillars was lily work: so was the work of the pillars finished.
²³And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
²⁴And under the brim of it round about there were knops compassing it, ten in a cubit, compassing the sea round about: the knops were cast in two rows, when it was cast.
²⁵It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward.
²⁶And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.
²⁷And he made ten bases of brass; four cubits was the length of one base, and four cubits the breadth thereof, and three cubits the height of it.
²⁸And the work of the bases was on this manner: they had borders, and the borders were between the ledges:
²⁹And on the borders that were between the ledges were lions, oxen, and cherubims: and upon the ledges there was a base above: and beneath the lions and oxen were certain additions made of thin work.
³⁰And every base had four brasen wheels, and plates of brass: and the four corners thereof had undersetters: under the laver were undersetters molten, at the side of every addition.
³¹And the mouth of it within the chapiter and above was a cubit: but the mouth thereof was round after the work of the base, a cubit and an half: and also upon the mouth of it were gravings with their borders, foursquare, not round.
³²And under the borders were four wheels; and the axletrees of the wheels were joined to the base: and the height of a wheel was a cubit and half a cubit.
³³And the work of the wheels was like the work of a chariot wheel: their axletrees, and their naves, and their felloes, and their spokes, were all molten.
³⁴And there were four undersetters to the four corners of one base: and the undersetters were of the very base itself.
³⁵And in the top of the base was there a round compass of half a cubit high: and on the top of the base the ledges thereof and the borders thereof were of the same.
³⁶For on the plates of the ledges thereof, and on the borders thereof, he graved cherubims, lions, and palm trees, according to the proportion of every one, and additions round about.
³⁷After this manner he made the ten bases: all of them had one casting, one measure, and one size.
³⁸Then made he ten lavers of brass: one laver contained forty baths: and every laver was four cubits: and upon every one of the ten bases one laver.
³⁹And he put five bases on the right side of the house, and five on the left side of the house: and he set the sea on the right side of the house eastward over against the south.
⁴⁰And Hiram made the lavers, and the shovels, and the basons. So Hiram made an end of doing all the work that he made king Solomon for the house of the LORD:
⁴¹The two pillars, and the two bowls of the chapiters that were on the top of the two pillars; and the two networks, to cover the two bowls of the chapiters which were upon the top of the pillars;
⁴²And four hundred pomegranates for the two networks, even two rows of pomegranates for one network, to cover the two bowls of the chapiters that were upon the pillars;
⁴³And the ten bases, and ten lavers on the bases;
⁴⁴And one sea, and twelve oxen under the sea;
⁴⁵And the pots, and the shovels, and the basons: and all these vessels, which Hiram made to king Solomon for the house of the LORD, were of bright brass.
⁴⁶In the plain of Jordan did the king cast them, in the clay ground between Succoth and Zarthan.
⁴⁷And Solomon left all the vessels unweighed, because they were exceeding many: neither was the weight of the brass found out.
⁴⁸And Solomon made all the vessels that pertained unto the house of the LORD: the altar of gold, and the table of gold, whereupon the shewbread was,
⁴⁹And the candlesticks of pure gold, five on the right side, and five on the left, before the oracle, with the flowers, and the lamps, and the tongs of gold,
⁵⁰And the bowls, and the snuffers, and the basons, and the spoons, and the censers of pure gold; and the hinges of gold, both for the doors of the inner house, the most holy place, and for the doors of the house, to wit, of the temple.
⁵¹So was ended all the work that king Solomon made for the house of the LORD. And Solomon brought in the things which David his father had dedicated; even the silver, and the gold, and the vessels, did he put among the treasures of the house of the LORD.

Tonyblue​

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Re: Thuban 101 - General Introduction and History

shiloh on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:36 pm

8 ABBA = BAAB 8 - GRANDMOTHERMIND = MOTHERDAUGHTER
The Days of the Pentagrammaton Dragon De Jerusalem
IAM THAT AMI = 95 = 59 = DRAGON
59+36=95=DRAGONLAW for 36=1+2+3+...+34+35+36=666=2²+3²+5²+7²+11²+13²+17²​

[6:40:54 AM-Friday, March 30th, 2012 --(+11UCT)] Ishtara Raven: 3-29-2012
I dreamed I was at the crucifixion and witnessing it over and over, I saw Jesus on the cross but there was no blood on him. It kept going backwards and forwards from his time on the Mount of Olives to the scene of the cross and I was focused on his face the whole time. He was speaking to all of us silently, almost telepathically. I got the feeling that Tony, James, Rok, Xeia and I were there…DCD was not there that I felt. He was dressed on the cross in a white linen Robe and he was standing on it not hanging or nailed to it. I did not see the nails in his hands or feet and no blood or crown of thorns. I don’t remember all that he said, it was mostly emotional, telepathic. In the end just before I woke up he said out loud to all of us, the Kerr ring is 98 and 99. I have no idea what that means but he must have wanted me to remember because he repeated it. I woke up exactly at 12:00 pm to the dog barking…she rarely barks.

[2:52:27 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[2:52:58 PM] Tonyblue: I am NOT talking to many people anymore, just as Rok does not wish to talk to you
[2:53:16 PM] Tonyblue: The download is exactly this dream
[2:53:27 PM] Tonyblue: CARE RING is 98 and 99
[2:53:39 PM] Tonyblue: 99=18 as 1980 connecting 31 AD to 2011=31+1980 and January 19th/20th, 1998 began the 'Age of Aquarius' in the solar transit of the Sun remember? 1998=999=666+333=18+9=1+8+9=9+9=II

[2:54:08 PM] Tonyblue: And this is the 17 years anniversary of MI March 24th 1995 to March 24th 2012
[2:54:31 PM] Tonyblue: 98=9+8=17 AS 18 times March 24th and encompassing 17 Years
[2:54:56 PM] Tonyblue: I will add the details to the last post today
[2:55:12 PM] Tonyblue: Its the 3½ days Raven and I talked yesterday about
[2:55:22 PM] Tonyblue: December 8-9-10-11, 2004 to March 28-29-30-31, 2012
[2:55:50 PM] Ishtara Raven: Tony I did not sense Mary there, I don't know but all I saw was you, James, Rok and Xeia standing before him.
[2:55:52 PM] Tonyblue: The 3 periods in the menses of the Old World
[2:56:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: and myself of course
[2:56:17 PM] Tonyblue: Yes because DCD is MM there and multiplied
[2:56:30 PM] Tonyblue: You saw NONE of the 3 Marys, see?
[2:56:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: no
[2:56:40 PM] Tonyblue: See!
[2:56:49 PM] Tonyblue: This is the Sisterhood
[2:56:55 PM] Ishtara Raven: Oh wow, i had wondered
[2:57:03 PM] Tonyblue: blending with the brotherhood
[2:57:16 PM] Tonyblue: To become a Sisterbrotherhood
[2:57:42 PM] Tonyblue: See Rok is 12 years younger than Xeia and DCD is 12 years younger than I
[2:57:55 PM] Tonyblue: So this is the 12+12=24 Elders
[2:58:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: and when i woke up funny thing, I thought he and Rok could be brothers, they looked so much alike, only Jesus had these dark brown eyes
[2:58:09 PM] Tonyblue: Baby Rok and Baby DCD
[2:58:25 PM] Tonyblue: Yes same for James
[2:58:29 PM] Tonyblue: Bloodline
[2:58:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes when james was younger yes
[2:58:48 PM] Tonyblue: Rok would have been one of the 12
[2:58:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: but Rok right now, looks very similar to Jesus
[2:59:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: in my dream
[2:59:17 PM] Tonyblue: Well its malleable
[2:59:25 PM] Tonyblue: All Blueys must eat JCCJ
[2:59:33 PM] Tonyblue: Become IT the cosmic twinship
[2:59:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[3:00:13 PM] Ishtara Raven: he was so beautiful Tony
[3:00:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: and it was morning the sun was shining as if it just came up
[3:01:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: i saw the sweat on his forhead
[3:01:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: glistening
[3:01:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: he spoke to us in the mind and said the kerr thing outloud
[3:02:24 PM] Tonyblue: Yes and all this is a specific timewindow
[3:02:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: and i saw a scene going back and forth from the Mount of Olives, him speaking before the multitudes and then just us on the hill of the cross

[3:42:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: so does this fix something then?
[3:42:16 PM] Tonyblue: The 12 hours in the middle are warped as Death=Life
[3:42:28 PM] Tonyblue: As in the above
[3:42:41 PM] Tonyblue: I am emphasizing the dates so it is clearer
[3:42:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok
[3:42:54 PM] Tonyblue: The warpzone is 2670 days with bounds
[3:43:10 PM] Tonyblue: Dec8 2004 and April 1st 2012
[3:43:31 PM] Tonyblue: This then warps the crucifixion AND resurrection onto 2012
[3:43:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok yes i see
[3:44:02 PM] Tonyblue: Your dream see was confirmation of the Risen and Eternal JCCJ
[3:44:35 PM] Tonyblue: 18 death days and 18 new life days
[3:44:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes that is what i felt, he was not in pain and no wounds or blood, no tears
[3:45:17 PM] Tonyblue: Exactly Glory and Power of the Logos
[3:45:37 PM] Tonyblue: 'Oh death where is thy sting?'

1 Corinthians 15:54-56 (KJV)

⁵⁴So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
⁵⁵O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
⁵⁶The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

[3:45:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: he was flesh and blood like us though, it was not some supernatural Jesus I saw, it was him in the flesh
[3:45:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[3:46:10 PM] Tonyblue: Of course
[3:46:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: and his Robe was of the time period of 31 AD, it was ivory colored and very natural
[3:47:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: why did he keep repeating the scenes, is this the back and forth of the mirror?
[3:48:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: i was actually getting virtigo in the dream, it was all night like this, intense back and forth it was like...i was and all things were being re-written
[3:49:08 PM] Tonyblue: The Mount of Olives?
[3:49:24 PM] Tonyblue: To and fro see, this is the manyness of the Eucharist
[3:49:27 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes by a huge tree on a hill side
[3:49:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: and many people
[3:49:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: to the scene of him standing on the cross, not hanging with us
[3:49:46 PM] Tonyblue: Yes multitudes about the Tree of Life
[3:50:02 PM] Tonyblue: Yes heshe has conquered the 'cross'
[3:50:12 PM] Tonyblue: Placing a circle around it
[3:50:20 PM] Ishtara Raven: omg Tony I am suddenly emotional
[3:50:33 PM] Ishtara Raven: this is what he was showing me
[3:50:41 PM] Ishtara Raven: he conqured the cross
[3:51:41 PM] Ishtara Raven: he is our family
[3:51:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: I remember
[3:51:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: I remember, you know I have been waiting for this dream, a remembrance of him, being with him
[3:54:25 PM] Ishtara Raven: I had no idea
[3:55:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: no idea i would get to see, i hoped
[3:57:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: see...sometimes wishes do come true Tonylove
[3:57:57 PM] Tonyblue: Well Our Story holds true whatever happens
[3:58:48 PM] Tonyblue: We did and lived this FOR a New World and now can only hope that We shall also see this New World now reconfigured in a manner the cosmic executive can use it, now the cosmic legislature has been made manifest
[3:59:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: it is true, and i feel more hope then ever before, i feel so much peace
[3:59:15 PM] Tonyblue: But its finished now, this Easter
[3:59:42 PM] Tonyblue: Well happiness remains elusive of course, but we did well
[4:00:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: happiness will be when the world recognises him
[4:00:23 PM] Ishtara Raven: in all things
[4:00:36 PM] Ishtara Raven: as natural as he was in my dream
[4:02:05 PM] Ishtara Raven: the love in him is in us
[4:02:33 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[4:03:06 PM] Ishtara Raven: we just all have to learn how to weild it now
[4:03:18 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p270-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#72388
[4:08:42 PM] Ishtara Raven:

amor operose novum mundos

Love Labors New Worlds


You all shine like the Stars
In all your unique parallax
And magnitudes
Colors of individual
Brilliance
Painting the backdrop
Of our collective Soul.
Through the darkness
Of the ages
You shine on
And on
Into infinity
Bending gravity to define
Your sacred spaces
Within and without
Singularities
Forming a new
Constellation.
​

[4:08:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: i wrote this today
[4:09:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: dont know what to title it though lol
[4:09:26 PM] Ishtara Raven: do you like it?
[4:12:21 PM] Tonyblue: Hmm nice lol yes I add it
[4:12:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol
[4:12:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: help me think of a title
[4:12:45 PM] Tonyblue: Call it New Life in a New World or such
[4:13:14 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmmm leme think
[4:17:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: how would you say new in latin new star?
[4:21:23 PM] Tonyblue: Nova astrum
[4:21:50 PM] Tonyblue: Nova Astralis
[4:22:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmm i like it
[4:22:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: so i will call it Nova Astralis
[4:22:46 PM] Tonyblue: Stella
[4:23:36 PM] Tonyblue: My motto as an airman in the RAAF was:
[4:23:40 PM] Tonyblue: Per Ardua et Astrum
[4:23:51 PM] Tonyblue: Through Labour to the Stars
[4:24:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh i like that to
[4:25:57 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p270-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#72388
[4:27:07 PM] Ishtara Raven: amor operose nova sidera=Love labours new stars
[4:28:16 PM] Tonyblue: Well once you have made your mind up. i add the title
[4:28:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol
[4:29:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: amor operose novum mundos=Love Labors New Worlds
[4:29:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: thats it
[4:29:38 PM] Tonyblue: Spanish?
[4:29:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: latin
[4:29:48 PM] Ishtara Raven: well google translator says it is
[4:29:55 PM] Tonyblue: roughly ok
[4:30:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: well i dont know a better latin source lol
[4:30:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: amore labor scriptor novum mundos
[4:30:54 PM] Ishtara Raven: oops with the comma it translates to this
[4:31:21 PM] Ishtara Raven: err i mean apostrophie
[4:33:18 PM] Ishtara Raven: probably the first one is more correct, operose is to make or create, Labor's is works
[4:33:34 PM] Tonyblue: operosus means active
[4:34:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmm i dont know your the latin expert lol
[4:34:08 PM] Tonyblue: No I am not
[4:34:23 PM] Ishtara Raven: i like how it sounds though, amor operose novum mundos
[4:34:24 PM] Tonyblue: Latin is easy though operatione does too
[4:34:38 PM] Tonyblue: Ok stick with it then
Ishtara Raven
XeiaXeia
Wed, 8Dec - Sat, 11Dec, 2004-----------|Sun, 25Mar - Wed, 28Mar -Thu, 29Mar - Sat, 31Mar |Sun, 1Apr - Wed, 4Apr, 2012 (+11UCT)

[0:00{Life}→2:00←{Death}14:00]→|[0:00→2:00←14:00][14:00-2:00][2:00-14:00-24:00]→|[0:00{Death}→2:00←{Resurrection}14:00]→

-3½ Days|.....|(+3½ Days) in Warptime of 12 Hours within a Warpzone of 1335+1335=2670 Days in (-3½ Days)|.....|+3½ days

Warped from:

Wed, 28Mar, 31 AD| 0:00-5:00-7:00-9:00-11:00-12:00-13:00-15:00-17:00-19:00-24:00| - | 3:00 |Sun, 1Apr, 31 AD; Jerusalem Time (+2UCT)



Gospel of Thomas (Lambdin)

(19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."

John.8.56-58:
⁵⁶Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
⁵⁷Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
⁵⁸Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

44+79+40=GRANDMOTHER+MIND=MOTHER+ANTIMIND=ABRAHAM+MOTHER+DAVID=MOTHER+DAUGHTER=79+84
=CATHERINE CASSIDY=MIREILLE AUDIBERT=83+80=163=10=55=109=GRANDMOTHER VDADI
=123+22+9+9=1234+666=1234+99=1234+18=1234+5+13=123+40=1234+0=1234+o+o=ABCDE+13
=ABCD+O=FIVE TREES=42+67=109=10=59+50=50+9+50=CIRCLE+I+CIRCLE
=DRAGONCIRCLE=DRAGONLION=DRAGONSNAKE=DRAGONARACHNE=DRAGONPAUL

A*=Tuesday, May 16th, 1922 =16+5+14=44=8=GM+ for Easter Sunday on April 16th, 1922
B*=Friday, January 8th, 1982 =8+1+20=11=2=D+ for Easter Sunday on April 11th, 1982
C*=Friday, March 24th, 1995 =24+3+24=33=6=GM- for Easter Sunday on April 16th, 1995
D*=Wednesday, December 8th, 2004=8+12+6=44=8=D- for Easter Sunday on April 11th, 2004
E*=Thursday, May 1st, 2014 =1+5+7=22=4=M* for Easter Sunday on April 20th, 2014

A*+C*=44+33=77=CHRIST=707=79997=76667=797=104=JERUSALEM=EXPERIENCE=EXISTENCE
=LOVEJOY=BERMANSEDER=USE DRAGON=45+59=LOVE CIRCLE=54+50=LION SUN=SNAKE GABRIEL=ARACHNE DECODER
=DEVILLIVED=52+52=2(26+26)=4(13+13)=GODDOGDOGGOD=JCCJCJJCCJJCJCCJ
B*+D*=11+44=55=HEAVEN=SKY=CLOUD=SONG=SATAN=BARBELO=JUDAS
E*=22=77-55=A+C-B-D

A*+C*=44+33=77=104=14=8+6=8+ABC=8+ABBA=BAAB+8=123+8=6+8=14=104=77=11+44+22=B*+D*+E*

1982=10+10=1010_bin=10_dec+10_dec

0=(Sun,Mar25-Wed,Mar28-Fri,Mar30-Sun,Apr1)31 + 1982 = (Easter&Equinox(Julian) #0 anno 31 AD)
1982=(Sun,Mar24-Wed,Mar27-Fri,Mar29-Sun,Mar31)2013 = (Easter&Equinox(Julian) #1982 anno 2013)

1=(Fri,Mar24-Mon,Mar27-Wed,Mar29-Fri,Mar31)1995 +1 = Equinox(Julian) 1995 (-23)
2=(Sun,Mar24-Wed,Mar27-Fri,Mar29-Sun,Mar31)1996 +16 = Equinox(Julian) 1996 (-14)
...
18=(Sat,Mar24-Tue,Mar27-Thu,Mar29-Sat,Mar31)2012 +1 = Equinox(Julian) 2012 (-15)
19=(Sun,Mar24-Wed,Mar27-Fri,Mar29-Sun,Mar31)2013 = Equinox(Julian) 2013 (-7)

{*=(Mon,Mar24-Thu,Mar27-Sat,Mar29-Mon,Mar31)2014 = Equinox(Julian) 2014 (-27)}

More detail: Post #255 at http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p240-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#70384
Post#226 at http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p225-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#67084
Posts#117 and #118 at http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t464p105-new-thuban-qa-from-isaiah-euphrates#56191
and/or: Post #11 at http://www.birthofgaia.com/t220-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#3207

[11:41:54 AM-Tuesday, March 27th, 2012 (+11UCT)] Tonyblue: Added the dates for the 2012 gnosis
[11:42:29 AM] Tonyblue: Antichrist-Christ double pregnancy look above the Ezekiel code
[11:43:39 AM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: double pregnancy...oh my!
[12:04:43 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t220p15-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#3218
[12:05:03 PM] Tonyblue: 3D-12D from July 10, 2011 to April 1st, 2012
[12:05:11 PM] Tonyblue: From Maleness to Femaleness
[12:05:40 PM] Tonyblue: Then Mirrored in femaleness to maleness from April 1st, 2012 to December 21-23, 2012
[12:05:49 PM] Tonyblue: As 12D-3D
[12:06:07 PM] Tonyblue: So from Sunday next the Logos is in charge
[12:06:18 PM] Tonyblue: 12D will manifest in 3D
[12:07:20 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: this sound rather intense
[12:07:22 PM] Tonyblue: Higher D is in gestation until Xmas
[12:07:48 PM] Tonyblue: Oh it is unprecedented in the history of the universe
[12:08:01 PM] Tonyblue: Reconfig
[12:08:14 PM] Tonyblue: New cosmic blueprints
[12:08:29 PM] Tonyblue: So from Xmas on many things will become possible
[12:08:32 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: absolutly amazing...i just get so excited sometimes
[12:08:52 PM] Tonyblue: Well it can take some time Mike there are no quick fixes
[12:09:17 PM] Tonyblue: A new race of starbeing is born Xmas however as many channels say too
[12:09:36 PM] Tonyblue: Contact will be on from Xmas not before
[12:10:14 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i very much look forward to that
[12:10:29 PM] Tonyblue: Its like a baby in the womb
[12:10:37 PM] Tonyblue: You dont know until it comes out
[12:10:57 PM] Tonyblue: So NABS expectations are unwarranted
[12:11:29 PM] Tonyblue: But you and yours will be 'reborn' with the planetary 'soul essence' say
[12:11:45 PM] Tonyblue: Resonance physics after that
[12:12:10 PM] Tonyblue: The planet will be reconfigured in a new environment see
[12:12:23 PM] Tonyblue: A new Noosphere or Akash
[12:12:47 PM] Tonyblue: This will happen sometimes Dec 21st and be a process on that weekend
[12:13:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i can see it somewhat anyway
[12:14:57 PM] Tonyblue: Yes its in all the human hearts and souls already many feel this reconfig but then get confused with the disinfo agents
[12:15:51 PM] Tonyblue: How is your flame going?
[12:16:20 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: what flame is that lol
[12:16:27 PM] Tonyblue: Your girlfriend
[12:16:30 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ah
[12:17:07 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well im on my way to visit her tonight again...spent the last 3 nights at her place just chillin and talkin bout things
[12:17:37 PM] Tonyblue: Good you are synchronising with this coring stuff we talk about here sometimes
[12:18:02 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: she is waking up...lol i seem to have that effect on some people
[12:18:14 PM] Tonyblue: Aye
[12:18:23 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: the clocks at her place read 10 10 11 11 12 12 1234 and so on...
[12:18:23 PM] Tonyblue: You got the energy
[12:19:20 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: its been nice to have a friend in my life ...was kinda boring for a while lol
[12:20:38 PM] Tonyblue: Could be Logos timing for you
[12:20:45 PM] Tonyblue: Your creation
[12:21:20 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: it sure feels like it...and i do hope that my own children are in the logos mix soon
[12:21:34 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: she has a daughter...be about the same age as my son
[12:21:36 PM] Tonyblue: Of course I am separated from mine too; its all 3D BS
[12:21:47 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ya im staying strong tho!
[12:22:42 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i hope that life is going well for you too...you have been so busy cranking out your work
[12:22:55 PM] Tonyblue: Well just about finished now
[12:22:59 PM] Tonyblue: Sunday, my work will be done
[12:23:27 PM] Tonyblue: So people can argue without me lol
[12:23:37 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: hahaha
[12:23:40 PM] Tonyblue: And follow their own noses
[12:23:57 PM] Tonyblue: I will talk here though
[12:24:14 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well there must be some things left to do...like taking all this mainstreem or coming up with something new
[12:24:38 PM] Tonyblue: It is pointless for me to talk mainstream atm Mike
[12:24:55 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: maybe just get a star cruiser and go on some hollidays
[12:25:06 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes mainstream is blind
[12:25:19 PM] Tonyblue: Because I was just a messenger, but people take things personal
[12:25:40 PM] Tonyblue: After Xmas I think the starcruisers are a real possibility
[12:25:59 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well i mentioned that i saw four light orbs in the sky last week
[12:26:21 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: they pop in...zip (fly) by in the sky and pop back out again
[12:26:24 PM] Tonyblue: Yes the orbs are consciousness expressions in 3D as 4D shadows
[12:26:43 PM] Tonyblue: Like if you switch the light off the shadow disappears see
[12:27:10 PM] Tonyblue: Think about shadows on the wall and how thy can move and you can understand ufo manouvers
[12:27:39 PM] Tonyblue: Move your hand zigzag and watch the shadow
[12:27:46 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: lol i just was
[12:28:30 PM] Tonyblue: Yes ufo zigzag is not combustion propulsion or rockets
[12:28:44 PM] Tonyblue: It is dimensional hyperspace
[12:29:29 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so much to learn and its all just so amazing
[12:29:50 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i trust that what i need to know just comes to me at the right time
[12:29:50 PM] Tonyblue: Well I only comprehend basics too
[12:30:18 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: like breathing...i dont really think about it...it just sort of happens
[12:30:29 PM] Tonyblue: Its the mindresonances which will determine who can make contact
[12:30:58 PM] Tonyblue: The ETs and ships require Extra Space to appear
[12:31:07 PM] Tonyblue: People dont get this
[12:31:44 PM] Tonyblue: 3D space is too small to materialise from higher D and less densities
[12:32:00 PM] Tonyblue: So this is like water simple
[12:32:07 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: wow... well that makes sense as you say it
[12:32:29 PM] Tonyblue: Water freezes and thaws into liquid and then becomes a gas under heat and disappears as water vapour
[12:32:43 PM] Tonyblue: So the ufos are like water vapour
[12:32:47 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: the light orbs i see are small in size...like basket ball sized
[12:32:52 PM] Tonyblue: You see this yes?
[12:33:08 PM] Tonyblue: Yes merkabahs of lightshadows
[12:33:20 PM] Tonyblue: 3D shadows are dark
[12:33:28 PM] Tonyblue: 4D shadows are lightorbs
[12:33:39 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: interesting
[12:33:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: about the water vapor
[12:33:56 PM] Tonyblue: All ufos are 4D space NOT 3D space why they can't catch them
[12:34:06 PM] Tonyblue: Yes CLOUDS see
[12:34:17 PM] Tonyblue: Clouds are ufo intelligence
[12:34:27 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: haha like nasa trying to go faster then light with laser lights
[12:34:39 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[12:34:48 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: lol good luck catching that
[12:34:55 PM] Tonyblue: But this is still normal physics
[12:35:07 PM] Tonyblue: Hyperphysics uses 5D
[12:35:26 PM] Tonyblue: This 5D is born Xmas opens up like a cosmic stargate see
[12:35:44 PM] Tonyblue: Inside out 'poleflip'
[12:35:53 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: kind of see...more feel...but i do see some
[12:35:54 PM] Tonyblue: Nothing to do with the planet flipping
[12:36:08 PM] Tonyblue: 2012 NABS
[12:36:28 PM] Tonyblue: It is the center of the earth which will flip
[12:36:33 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i saw astralwalker had a new presentation...never watched it...just saw the link on ciabook
[12:36:38 PM] Tonyblue: Size of a golfball
[12:37:02 PM] Tonyblue: The NABS people got the same symbols but misread those
[12:37:19 PM] Tonyblue: So they feel this stuff but can't read it
[12:37:43 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well very soon i feel it will be our teams turn to speak
[12:38:08 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i mean speak more then we already have been lol
[12:38:08 PM] Tonyblue: Starhumans will change the standards yes
[12:38:26 PM] Tonyblue: Its all obscured as necessary Mike
[12:38:41 PM] Tonyblue: Imagine Ryan or Cassidy taking us seriously
[12:39:07 PM] Tonyblue: We would be in the NABS disinfo environment 'competing' with the disinfo agents
[12:39:14 PM] Tonyblue: Waste of energy
[12:39:30 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes i can see that
[12:40:00 PM] Tonyblue: They interview us and they would shoot the messengers and would not listen what we say
[12:40:11 PM] Tonyblue: Ego tripping
[12:40:24 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: maybe just retarded?
[12:40:26 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!:
[12:40:27 PM] Tonyblue: Let them live their illusions
[12:40:40 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh well...i dunno...
[12:40:50 PM] Tonyblue: Old humans are doomed to change or go extinct
[12:41:03 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes i very much agree with that
[12:41:05 PM] Tonyblue: And this is not our say, its the universe's
[12:41:36 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: what if i said the universe told me to un birth them
[12:41:56 PM] Tonyblue: Go for it!
[12:42:12 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well it will soon be time for our work to shine
[12:42:17 PM] Tonyblue: You are a free agent with a encompassing philosophy or agenda
[12:42:51 PM] Tonyblue: This is all we actually are
[12:43:03 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i just know that things could be sooooo much better and the answers to many of the problems that they keep going on about have already been presented
[12:43:17 PM] Tonyblue: Dragons or starhumans are fiercely individual, yet have a common understanding of how the universe works
[12:43:30 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[12:43:50 PM] Tonyblue: Many things and solutions are published but not many are interested
[12:44:08 PM] Tonyblue: TLTR
[12:44:10 PM] Tonyblue: lol
[12:44:18 PM] Tonyblue: Too many scripture codes
[12:44:25 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: tltr?
[12:44:34 PM] Tonyblue: Too boring; where are the pics of the evil dracs?
[12:44:47 PM] Tonyblue: Too Long To Read
[12:44:51 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ah yes
[12:45:26 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: might be easier to make up some bullshit bout being abducted and anal probed then when the cameras rolling switch it up to the truth haha
[12:45:33 PM] Tonyblue: Exactly
[12:45:53 PM] Tonyblue: See Mike you have come a long way too now from buying all this BS
[12:46:16 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ya well theres a lot of it...and much sounds good
[12:46:34 PM] Tonyblue: It sounds good because it is GENERAL love and light stuff
[12:46:46 PM] Tonyblue: It fails to give details though
[12:47:08 PM] Tonyblue: Disclosure dates and the pope resigning what BS
[12:47:48 PM] Tonyblue: They might be planning to poison him or something but popes dont resign because of old age
[12:47:57 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: hmmmmm
[12:48:03 PM] Tonyblue: He is in Mexico anyway atm
[12:48:24 PM] Tonyblue: The ptb and the Vatican are very aware of the Malachi prophecies
[12:48:32 PM] Xeia: he is in Santiago de Cuba
[12:48:34 PM] Tonyblue: Benedict is the last pope
[12:48:51 PM] Tonyblue: Yes he would have moved on
[12:48:59 PM] Tonyblue: South America trip
[12:49:00 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i am unfamilar with the malachi prophecies
[12:49:35 PM] Tonyblue: They say that after Benedict, Peter the apostle will be the new pope from the heavens say
[12:49:46 PM] Tonyblue: So this is the 2nd coming
[12:50:15 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well ill debate the pope!
[12:50:24 PM] Tonyblue: They elected Benedict BECAUSE he was so old already see wrt this Malachi
[12:50:30 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: we get all our fact together and ill take on any man
[12:50:36 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: false christans...islam
[12:50:48 PM] Tonyblue: So they can do him in just in case to manipulate the prophecy to their agendas
[12:51:19 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: wild...what a bunch of crazy lizzards
[12:51:25 PM] Tonyblue: Right, powermongers more like it
[12:51:45 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes was a joke
[12:52:09 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: just nuts the situation were all in
[12:52:26 PM] Tonyblue: If they poison him, then they can blame his old age and the stress of the travellings
[12:52:33 PM] Tonyblue: Read between the lines, ptb are predictable when things are in mainstream media
[12:53:39 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well they are getting squeeed by these energies too and are likley running out of ideas
[12:53:44 PM] Tonyblue: He would be in Rome for Easter April 8
[12:53:50 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[12:54:13 PM] Tonyblue: So strange aye that the NABSers say he will retire one Sunday after on April 15th?!
[12:54:28 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and when viewed by the higher ET mind that appears to have landed in our heads it becomes obvious how retarded they are
[12:54:28 PM] Tonyblue: Its disinfo
[12:54:37 PM] Tonyblue: True
[12:55:41 PM] Tonyblue: Its a control game
[12:56:04 PM] Tonyblue: The old Xtianity is kaput now
[12:56:11 PM] Tonyblue: And they feel it
[12:56:16 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i bet they do
[12:56:25 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: they probably read our posts on facebook
[12:56:26 PM] Tonyblue: New info from the Logos is the real Xtianity
[12:56:47 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and the mists and the other forums
[12:56:52 PM] Tonyblue: We are simple 3D friends of it anchoring this new data
[12:57:00 PM] Tonyblue: We are NOT in contol at all
[12:57:21 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: nope...just a channel for the great work to come in
[12:57:25 PM] Tonyblue: But Sunday this will BEGIN to mirror
[12:57:43 PM] Tonyblue: The going up from Us to the ETs will reflect coming down
[12:57:58 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: it has been an honor to do what i have done...despite all the perceived troubles i cry about
[12:57:59 PM] Tonyblue: So this is what this is all about
[12:57:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: yay and hello guys
[12:58:05 PM] Tonyblue: New Story telling Mike
[12:58:15 PM] Tonyblue: Ishy is back
[12:58:23 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: \o/
[12:58:31 PM] Tonyblue: Download the 91 pic Raven
[12:58:40 PM] Tonyblue: It had addons, its on main
[12:58:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes getting it now
[12:59:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: how you feeling today?
[12:59:18 PM] Tonyblue: Better
[12:59:38 PM] Tonyblue: I woke up and understood the double pregnancy even better, so I added it
[1:00:15 PM] Tonyblue: The story is on heaven and the other forums of course
[1:00:20 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t220p15-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history#3218
[1:00:40 PM] Tonyblue: But you see your own birthday as a mirror in this timeline lol
[1:00:56 PM] Tonyblue: Look at Aug12-19 week
[1:01:06 PM] Tonyblue: 5 mirrors here
[1:02:08 PM] Tonyblue: Jul10---Sep14---April 1st---August 15---Dec23
[1:02:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok yes i see it
[1:02:43 PM] Tonyblue: Dec 23 because the April 1st is double counted
[1:03:00 PM] Tonyblue: So the weekend Dec21-23 will be the 'event'
[1:03:19 PM] Tonyblue: Sunday to Sunday is 8 days not 7 see
[1:03:26 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh wow
[1:03:50 PM] Tonyblue: And the timeline stated July 11th so this then becomes Dec 21st
[1:03:55 PM] Ishtara Raven: the 21st-23 is also 3.5 days too right in the encoding?
[1:04:00 PM] Tonyblue: No
[1:04:12 PM] Tonyblue: But the Mayan Logos is those two dates, called Mayan Correlation
[1:04:28 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh i see
[1:04:35 PM] Tonyblue: One school gets Dec21st and the other Dec23rd
[1:04:37 PM] Tonyblue: Thompson and Lounsbury as the Mayan longcount date 13.0.0.0.0
[1:04:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: right, gotcha
[1:04:50 PM] Tonyblue: Good
[1:04:59 PM] Tonyblue: This is a very easy timeline
[1:05:15 PM] Tonyblue: Birth of Antichrist mirrored in Birth of Christ as 2nd coming see
[1:05:30 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[1:05:36 PM] Tonyblue: The other stuff in that post is detail
[1:05:54 PM] Tonyblue: It explains so many things and we lived this thoroughly
[1:06:30 PM] Tonyblue: Look at the mirror of the antignosis meaning male to female this then is the Raven-Dove mirror in more detail in a finestructure
[1:07:10 PM] Tonyblue: So the images (as per GOT) are 12D coming down and manifesting 3D from Sunday
[1:07:27 PM] Tonyblue: Our work was to offer the 3D to 12D as a new story script
[1:07:31 PM] Tonyblue: So simple really
[1:08:13 PM] Tonyblue: July 10th is Raven mirror extended as the antibirth and Xeia's Dove Mirror is Dec 23rd as the birth
[1:08:34 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: [1:07 PM] Tonyblue:

<<< Our work was to offer the 3D to 12D as a new story script i do love a good story (inlove)
[1:08:36 PM] Ishtara Raven: nice
[1:08:40 PM] Tonyblue: So she called her forum BirthofGaia see the Logos there?
[1:09:08 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i always liked that name too
[1:09:10 PM] Tonyblue: And she cooperated with a Rock
[1:09:17 PM] Tonyblue: Peter Cephas
[1:09:31 PM] Tonyblue: Cephas Xeia and Cephas Raven
[1:09:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol so true
[1:09:45 PM] Tonyblue: One day this will become clearer
[1:09:56 PM] Tonyblue: Yes Xeia is the Cephas too with Rock
[1:09:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[1:10:13 PM] Tonyblue: Two mirrors with the Logos in the middle
[1:10:22 PM] Tonyblue: This is on the chart
[1:10:43 PM] Tonyblue: And Sunday ends the Anticycle and begins the Cycle
[1:11:06 PM] Tonyblue: 3D-12D as a gift returning from female to male aka a Real Birth
[1:11:26 PM] Tonyblue: What Thuban did was to offer the male-female up to the heavens and as scripted
[1:11:39 PM] Tonyblue: Remember the 'footstool'?
[1:11:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: so what do you expect will happen to people on april 1st tony? any ideas
[1:11:50 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[1:11:55 PM] Tonyblue: Nothing external
[1:12:20 PM] Tonyblue: A possible pregancy is shown to be a nonevent symbolically
[1:12:28 PM] Tonyblue: Like a pregnancy test
[1:12:44 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: OMG theres two lines!
[1:12:45 PM] Tonyblue: But this absorbs millennia old memes
[1:12:57 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes but many may feel the new life growing in them metaphorically
[1:13:09 PM] Tonyblue: Of course yes
[1:13:23 PM] Tonyblue: A New Starhuman Race will be CONCEIVED ON SUNDAY
[1:13:30 PM] Tonyblue: Unprecedented
[1:13:54 PM] Tonyblue: Like the archangel Gabriel honouring Mary in Luke in the 'Announciation'
[1:14:02 PM] Tonyblue: This will happen Sunday
[1:14:18 PM] Ishtara Raven: just found out my gf from wendover is 12 weeks pregnant for real, she is due oct 7th, pretty close to Carolina's birthday. I wonder how she will do being double pregnant this year...i remember what the bible says...woe to those with child
[1:14:32 PM] Tonyblue: But I dont expect anything 3D physical catastrophies and such stuff
[1:14:48 PM] Tonyblue: Nono Raven, this code means that woe to the 'carriers' of the antichrist ok?
[1:15:13 PM] Tonyblue: One is taken one stays
[1:15:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh i see
[1:15:26 PM] Tonyblue: This is like DCD now and Reimy and all deniers
[1:15:41 PM] Tonyblue: Yes this code decodes all this wonderfully
[1:15:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: she says she wants a little girl
[1:16:00 PM] Tonyblue: Dinah like Zaina's daughter
[1:16:23 PM] Tonyblue: All dragons will carry Dinah from Sunday
[1:16:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: yeah i am excited for her
[1:16:39 PM] Tonyblue: You will carry Dinah Ophiuchus
[1:16:46 PM] Tonyblue: Malefemale christ
[1:16:58 PM] Tonyblue: The divine twin in one
[1:17:14 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i feel him
[1:17:18 PM] Ishtara Raven: himher
[1:17:28 PM] Tonyblue: Then the dragons will give birth to this twin Xmas
[1:17:37 PM] Tonyblue: Yes all DQBees
[1:17:44 PM] Tonyblue: And DKs in images of the selfbirth and as image of Gaias's rebirth
[1:18:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: i had strange dreams last night
[1:18:17 PM] Ishtara Raven: gaia was crying out to me
[1:18:22 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: raven i had very strange dreams too
[1:18:30 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and very deep sleep
[1:18:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: and Jimmy new I was gaia, he kept calling me that in the dream anyhow
[1:18:40 PM] Tonyblue: See confirmations
[1:18:55 PM] Tonyblue: Its a super duper week of anti-versus real
[1:19:12 PM] Tonyblue: As said yesterday, Sunday 25th mirrors April 8th
[1:19:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: well it was very very strange, Gaia was downloading me with tons of stuff
[1:19:45 PM] Tonyblue: So today mirrors April 6
[1:20:02 PM] Tonyblue: Jesus IN the Tomb see the belly of the whale
[1:20:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: i dont remember it all but it was like an urgent message
[1:20:08 PM] Tonyblue: See your dreams in this light
[1:20:29 PM] Tonyblue: Jesus is in the tomb April 4th-April 8th
[1:20:47 PM] Tonyblue: This becomes March 25th-March 29th in image
[1:21:20 PM] Tonyblue: So this is what you are downloading the end of Old Gaia History
[1:21:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: in the dream Gaia was seducing Jimmy big time too lol and he was falling for it, he was singing to Gaia and smiling and cooing
[1:21:51 PM] Tonyblue: Good, MI=MM=Rose=ambassadora
[1:22:24 PM] Tonyblue: Old Gaia is ready to GO HOME to ABBA as Old Barbelo
[1:22:27 PM] Ishtara Raven: all i can remember really, i can say i never had a dream like this where the planet talked to me as a persona in the dream
[1:22:45 PM] Tonyblue: New Gaia Serpentina will take her place as Daughter matured
[1:23:02 PM] Tonyblue: This is what is implied
[1:23:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: James saw me as Gaia, but I saw her in me as a beautiful woman, dark haired beauty, it was so strange
[1:23:46 PM] Tonyblue: Yes you are New GS as are all DQBees
[1:24:04 PM] Tonyblue: See JT your gf could be such a DQBee big time
[1:24:26 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i told her about the dragon queens being important
[1:24:30 PM] Tonyblue: Lol
[1:24:45 PM] Tonyblue: She might be one in her heart
[1:25:05 PM] Ishtara Raven: well how do you feel about this woman Mike, do you think she could be your DQ, your core?
[1:25:15 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: it is quite possible
[1:26:17 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: its hard to know for sure im just living it...but there is a deep connection between us on a spirt level
[1:26:25 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes this is it
[1:26:32 PM] Tonyblue: Essences
[1:26:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: you may find yourselves super attracted but not for obvious reasons
[1:26:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes essence
[1:26:50 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes thats right
[1:27:04 PM] Tonyblue: Yes its not looks Mike, its something deeper
[1:27:07 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i can see that she is feeling that...i can see it in her eyes
[1:27:20 PM] Ishtara Raven: beautiful
[1:27:29 PM] Tonyblue: But all DQs will transform into cosmic beauties of course
[1:27:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well i was droping pure alchemical gold on her last night
[1:28:20 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: we were looking at some of the posts on the thuban 101 thread and i was talking about some of the things i understand
[1:28:36 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: the rest i said is just beyond my current understanding...i just kinda wing it lol
[1:29:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes invite her to the chats if she wants mike, like the main one or this one if you feel she is ready, we can help answer questions
[1:29:45 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i will let her know...shes for sure getting with the program especaily after listen to me goin on and on and on and on and on and on...
[1:29:53 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol
[1:29:55 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!:
[1:29:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: i can imagine
[1:30:08 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: haha ya thats the secret i say to her
[1:30:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: wonder if she can keep up with your boundless energy
[1:30:17 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: believing is seeing
[1:30:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: she tries very hard...and i am learning to take a few breaks and just enjoy the moments of time we are sharing
[1:31:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: thats good, yeah don't overwhelm her too much
[1:31:30 PM] Tonyblue: Yes this core chat will be opened for all core aspirers from Sunday
[1:32:00 PM] Tonyblue: So feel free to add people at your individual disgressions
[1:32:16 PM] Tonyblue: Core seekers is the criteria nothing else
[1:32:34 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well she not on skype but i will offer her the choice to join in
[1:32:43 PM] Tonyblue: So not people like Asha who does not want a core
[1:32:57 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i can feel that there very much could be some amazing times between us in the future
[1:33:08 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: was quite a wild time when we first met last october
[1:33:22 PM] Tonyblue: If you feel this, it should become emphasized from Sunday JT
[1:33:27 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: the magic of true love eh....sneaks up on ya when your not looking
[1:33:38 PM] Tonyblue: Sunday will be a COSMIC CONCEPTION internally
[1:33:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol yeah
[1:34:04 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i can feel the warmth of it already
[1:34:23 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i am surrounded in bliss energy
[1:34:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: thats good mike
[1:35:08 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i have been laying out my bluprint for a while...and i can feel those big wheels coming back around
[1:35:20 PM] Tonyblue: Thursday should bring on another energy shift
[1:35:51 PM] Tonyblue: So there would be a depression atm psychically for many people
[1:36:02 PM] Tonyblue: Mirroring the tomb
[1:36:13 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes in some of my friends very much so...!!! heavy waves in their brains!
[1:36:13 PM] Tonyblue: This would ease Thursday
[1:36:20 PM] Ishtara Raven: tell me, i had a freaking lawyer call me today and demand payment for an old ambulance bill, they sued me
[1:36:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: threatened to come after me with all he had
[1:36:35 PM] Tonyblue: Yes morons
[1:36:59 PM] Tonyblue: Where is Obamacare?
[1:37:13 PM] Ishtara Raven: and i have to pay it or it will go from 520$ to 1700 and i am trying to get hired on the Indian Mount, wont be good if i have a garnishment.
[1:37:30 PM] Ishtara Raven: its still being implemented and the fuc11ing repubs are still trying to overturn it
[1:37:48 PM] Tonyblue: Amazing how brainwashed those US people are generally
[1:38:01 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: brainwashed and braindead!
[1:38:20 PM] Tonyblue: Even listening to those reps
[1:38:28 PM] Tonyblue: Same here though
[1:39:06 PM] Tonyblue: Just had a Queensland state election when the sitting Dem/Labour government lost 44 seats to 7 now and was swept from office after 20 years by the Tories
[1:39:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: well amazingly enough, Jimmy and I had some extra money which allowed me to pay half of it today. this guy was such an 1ss on the phone. told him i get paid friday and he says...listen people tell me that all the time, send me half now and i will believe you, otherwise i go ahead and process the case and your screwed.
[1:39:24 PM] Tonyblue: Fuc11wit
[1:39:39 PM] Tonyblue: I would have 'abused' him for once for real
[1:40:18 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes he threatened to take ownership of my computer, jewllery and all kinds of s8it, this guy even knew Jimmy's name, he has been investigating me i guess, it left me with a sick feeling tony.
[1:40:24 PM] Tonyblue: Old human populus is braindead as you said
[1:40:33 PM] Tonyblue: Time to go extinct
[1:40:33 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well its all about the corpseration when your birth certifacte was created and they trick you into the joinder as the spirit agreeing to be the NAME
[1:40:47 PM] Tonyblue: I dont blame you
[1:40:51 PM] Ishtara Raven: [1:40 PM] Tonyblue:

<<< Old human populus is braindead as you said
Time to go extinct for sure
[1:41:06 PM] Tonyblue: Well JT said it too
[1:41:08 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: but good luck dealing with that... were still just learning how the system was created and works
[1:41:43 PM] Ishtara Raven: the guy called my mother first and she wouldn't give him my number, so she took his but he was abusive to her too, wouldn't tell her what it was about.
[1:41:49 PM] Tonyblue: You cant 'fight' this stuff Mike unless you got the money and the lawyers
[1:42:14 PM] Tonyblue: Lawyers and police are the scum of the powermongers and psychiatrists lol
[1:42:31 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i agree with that...as you know had my own experiences with them as of late
[1:42:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes you know what 200,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea is?
[1:42:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: A good start lol
[1:43:02 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and i am gonna laugh my 1ss off when they do go crazy
[1:43:02 PM] Tonyblue: Some of the first 'professions' which will be obsolete in the New World
[1:43:30 PM] Ishtara Raven: i swear most lawyers have no conscious
[1:43:43 PM] Tonyblue: My only 'authority' is the codes and they say that the military will be defunct
[1:43:45 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: they totally know they are screwing everyone
[1:43:55 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh i like that
[1:44:15 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i just told Occupy Canada today that i declare the government defunct
[1:44:38 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ive run my mouth just about as much as i can
[1:44:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes and hopefully, judges, jurys, police, lawyers all that s8it wont be needed as people will know what the true laws are

[1:44:46 PM] Tonyblue:

Micah 4:3
And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

[1:45:11 PM] Tonyblue: This is potent JT
[1:45:17 PM] Tonyblue: I take this as gospel
[1:45:22 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well thank god for you all and your Un-crazieness
[1:45:32 PM] Tonyblue: So military will become disaster relief agency
[1:45:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: haha great transformation of them
[1:45:51 PM] Tonyblue: YES
[1:46:12 PM] Tonyblue: This code Raven would put the entire old human civilisation on its head
[1:46:24 PM] Tonyblue: Because atm all is money and military
[1:46:41 PM] Tonyblue: And I 'believe' it MUST come true
[1:47:00 PM] Ishtara Raven: i know, the current status is totally sick, i can't wait till the military machine is dismantled forever
[1:47:06 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[1:47:14 PM] Tonyblue: Dragons will have fun doing this
[1:47:21 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well i am going to walk up the durham hill to my girlfriends place (inlove)
have a great night or day or now and whatever...talk to you soon
thanks for chatting here...i am so excited about things to come
[1:47:29 PM] Tonyblue: They can try to shoot the motherships down
[1:47:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: all this money they waste on defense could be better spent on things like food, clothing, shelter for everyone for starters
[1:47:40 PM] Tonyblue: It will backfire
[1:47:54 PM] Tonyblue: Yes loverbird
[1:47:57 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok Mike, have a great night sweety
[1:47:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol
[1:48:11 PM] Tonyblue: Love eagle
[1:48:37 PM] Tonyblue: Too late for 'political solutions' Raven
[1:48:51 PM] Tonyblue: Only superior airpower can do this
[1:48:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: i know...its hammer time, divine justice
[1:49:00 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
[1:49:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: the meek will inherit this earth
[1:49:33 PM] Tonyblue: The meek are the new race from the stars
[1:49:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: peace lovers
[1:49:50 PM] Tonyblue: Peace makers they are called yes
[1:50:14 PM] Tonyblue: So what Thuban did was is to 'Prepare the Way'
[1:50:28 PM] Tonyblue: We are not this race yet, but can become
[1:50:43 PM] Tonyblue: We prepared the way in rescripting the future, based on encoded prophecies both scriptural and native
[1:51:12 PM] Tonyblue: Can you see this?
[1:51:22 PM] Tonyblue: We were pioneers.
[1:51:30 PM] Tonyblue: Playwrights
[1:51:36 PM] Tonyblue: Not yet the New Race
[1:51:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes of course i see this
[1:52:08 PM] Tonyblue: So like Van Gogh say who died a pauper
[1:52:23 PM] Tonyblue: We might not see the fruits of our labours
[1:52:31 PM] Ishtara Raven: don't say that
[1:52:46 PM] Tonyblue: Only after the artist is gone, will the world acknowledge hisher genius and worth
[1:53:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol your pessimism really chaps my 1ss tony, so i will counter with, we will see our future, somehow someway
[1:53:19 PM] Tonyblue: I am only saying that this work needed to be done and that its worth is in the deeds done
[1:53:43 PM] Tonyblue: We DID it and somehow will know this of course
[1:53:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes yes i know what your saying, that no matter what we have changed the metaphysics
[1:53:54 PM] Tonyblue: YES
[1:53:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: our story is real
[1:54:11 PM] Tonyblue: Xeia and Rock and you all expect the grand physical changes
[1:54:42 PM] Tonyblue: I hope they will occur, but if they take another decade or so it does not in any manner diminish the Works
[1:55:08 PM] Tonyblue: Our remembrance of self must endure yes
[1:55:15 PM] Tonyblue: We shall never forget
[1:55:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: no we can't
[1:56:08 PM] Tonyblue: Nope and of course I would EXPECT that this grand cosmic new potential will allow us to KEEP Our merkabahs in a metamorphosis
[1:56:40 PM] Tonyblue: But it is the Logos executive who decides this not Thuban
[1:57:08 PM] Tonyblue: My work is finished Sunday, so I am making my position clear now
[1:57:13 PM] Ishtara Raven: well if we cannot immediately transform i do believe the ETs will have the technology to keep us alive until the metamorphosis is complete
[1:57:30 PM] Tonyblue: Lol I am more positive here
[1:58:04 PM] Tonyblue: I know that a 'magnetic crystal chamber' say, would 'cure' my and your and Xeia's ailments in an hour or so
[1:58:26 PM] Tonyblue: But this requires the densification of hyperspace
[1:58:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes this is what i mean
[1:59:13 PM] Tonyblue: From Sunday a New Healing Mode will be implemented as this Conception
[1:59:40 PM] Tonyblue: So I actually do expect improvements in my physical condition and so can you and the dragons
[1:59:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: sweety my mom just called me, so i am going to talk to her , but i will be back in a few
[2:00:02 PM] Tonyblue: Sure say hello from me
[2:00:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: she says hi and cheers from out west lol
[2:53:01 PM] Tonyblue: Shared this convo as it is of general interest addressing many issues about the timeline, 2012, Logos and the cores



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