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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Aug 10th

Australia’s Surveillance State: Metadata and the Derogation of Privacy Rights

By Binoy Kampmark
Global Research, August 09, 2014
Region: Oceania
Theme: Police State & Civil Rights





It is sometimes hard to know whether those in power adopt a policy of confusion purposely, or through grand design. When it comes to the flawed policy of data retention on a mass scale, a burden that is bound to fall on telecommunications companies, the problem is most acute of all. What is to be kept? What falls within that broad term metadata?


The Australian Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, a somewhat challenged individual in twenty first century politics, is one such example. Here, dinosaur meets politician, and the result is far from pretty. It is less pretty for the fact that his Attorney-General, George Brandis, is talking another language on the same subject.

Neither seems entirely clear what the subject of metadata constitutes. For Abbott, it is a matter of dealing with “the material on the front of the envelope” while leaving the contents of the letter untouched, a crudely inaccurate analogy if ever there was one. On public channels, Brandis claims that the new proposals on mandatory data retention would require internet service providers (ISPs) to retain “metadata” for up to two years which would include “the web address” of each site visited by the individual user.
Within the Australian cabinet, some dissent has brewed over the subject. The communications minister, Malcolm Turnbull[1], is irritated for good reason – he is the one left carrying the can and mollifying ISPs over their onerous duties. He wasn’t even invited to Monday’s national security committee meeting.

Turnbull, in an attempt to clear the mud that had invariably slipped into the waters, suggested on Friday that metadata was a matter of difference. In his postmodern retort, a user’s web browsing history would not be part of the captured mix.

“There has been some concern expressed that the government was proposing that telcos should retain for two years a record of the websites that you visit when you’re online, whether that’s expressed in the form of the domain names or their IP [internet protocol] addresses – in other words, that there would be a requirement to keep a two-year record of your web browsing or web surfing history.”

Turnbull then brought in the traditional card of policing data, denying that the browsing history would be the subject of retention. “What they are seeking is that the traditional phone records that are currently kept, and by some ISPs and telcos for more than two years, that is the caller, the called party – you know, I called you, time of call, duration of call… they want them to be kept for two years.”
But of course, it does not stop there. The IP address, or as Turnbull describes it, “the number that is assigned to your phone or your computer when you go online by your ISP” is to be retained.

Similar denials on the extent of data capture have also been issued by the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) chief David Irvine, and the Australian federal police (AFP) deputy commissioner, Andrew Colvin. While both were keen to dispel rumours that browsing histories would be captured, they dumped on the idea that warrants were required to access metadata.
As Irvine explained, metadata was already being accessed “for many years”, a process that was bound to continue. Then there was the honourable, reliable office of the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security (not, of course, a judge or an expression of the law) keeping an eye on “the way we access [metadata].”

Colvin, in an unconvincing attempt to pacify critics, attempted to draw a distinction between metadata, which can be accessed as an “initial investigative tool” and actual content. The latter required a warrant, with its judicial protections.
Australia remains virginal when it comes to matters associated with accessing metadata, with authorities totally oblivious to a scheme of rights and protections to prevent overstretch of power. Even the independent national security legislation monitor, Bret Walker SC, has suggested a warrant system.[2] By all means, store the data, but ensure some means of control when accessing it. Traditionally conservative voices from such organisations as John Roskam of the IPA[3] have also warned that, “Once it happens there is no winding this back. It gives enormous power to the government over people’s privacy. The material will leak. It will be used for purposes not related to anti-terrorism.”

The assumption here is that the authorities will stick to the straight and narrow, refusing to step into the realms of illegality. Sticking to such protocols of propriety is, however, impossible in an age where metadata is the guiding principle of the information age. All governments want to feast on it, and they get rather frustrated when the civil rights lobby remind them that information should not be there for the taking without just and probable cause.

The excuse, as it always tends to be, is also one of blunt pragmatism. Privacy rights, and correlative obligations to respect them, tend to be matters of nuisance to spy chiefs and figures behind the intelligence gathering apparatus. For Irvine, having a warrant for each request for metadata would see “the whole system…grind to a halt.” This is patent nonsense, seeing as an intelligence service operating within the boundaries of warrants and judicial oversight is bound to be better for it. More gaps does not necessarily imply more insecurity or less freedom. It does, in fact, suggest the reverse.


Dr. Binoy Kampmark was a Commonwealth Scholar at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He lectures at RMIT University, Melbourne. Email: bkampmark@gmail.com
Notes
[1]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/08/asio-and-federal-police-seek-to-clear-up-confusion-over-metadata-collection
[2]http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4062418.htm
[3]http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/8/8/technology/abbotts-national-security-failure

http://www.globalresearch.ca/australias-surveillance-state-metadata-and-the-derogation-of-privacy-rights/5395353




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WAR ON THE INTERNET
http://media.theage.com.au/technology/digital-life/war-on-the-internet-6619276.html​

The Senate Has Passed The Government’s Site-Blocking Bill; Here’s What That Means For You

By Meg Watson, 23/6/2015 12427

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Late yesterday afternoon, after a full day of debate and months of anticipatory cringing, the Senate passed the Copyright Amendment (Online Infringement) Bill. Intended to combat the vast and very real problem of online piracy, the legislation will see torrenting sites like The Pirate Bay, Kickass Torrents and Project Free TV blocked by internet service providers if and when the applications of copyright owners are approved by the Federal Court.
The legislation was developed by metadata enthusiast Attorney General George Brandis and Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull (an adult human who ostensibly does not know what “a Pirate Bay” actually is). And despite considerable opposition from the public, experts, tech giants and Senator for the Internet Scott Ludlam, the bill easily passed with bipartisan support — 37 votes to 13. Aside from the Greens, the only representatives to oppose the measure were Senators Ricky Muir, Jacqui Lambie, David Leyonhjelm, and Glenn “The Brick With Eyes” Lazarus.




So. What The Fuck Happened?

It’s no secret that the government’s been railing against piracy for some time now, and they have good reason. As Elmo Keep wrote for us a couple of years back, the “free economy” is having a disastrous impact on creative communities as well as the larger corporations they work for. The debate has been raging on, in Australia especially, for decades.
The issue came to the fore in February last year when the Australian Law Reform Commission tabled a report (Copyright and the Digital Economy), which detailed exactly how vast and unwieldy the problem was. In response, Brandis released a discussion paper stating, “there is no easy solution to preventing online copyright infringement”, and he’s been trying to find one ever since.
Instead of working with the official recommendations of the ALRC’s report, the government came up with the idea of site-blocking. Conveniently, it promised to turn around Australia’s reputation as a barren land of jerks and swindlers, it placated increasingly pissed rights holders, it fell right in line with the general policy of publicly shaming and inconveniencing young people at any given opportunity, but it didn’t necessarily promise any real results. The idea was first brought forward in cabinet meetings at the end of last year, officially introduced in March, and last week it cruised through the House of Reps albeit with the explicit objections of Labor MP Ed Husic.
Labelling its logic “lopsided”, Husic argued the bill was “a clamp-down on piracy [that doesn’t] deal with a business system that is broken … I don’t like it. I didn’t like it. I fought against it.
I lost this round but I view it as a battle which is part of a broader campaign for change.”



Similar objections came from the Senate yesterday, as Liberal Democratic Senator David Leyonhjelm called it “a drastic remedy and a blunt tool”.



But all this got kicked up a few notches when Greens Senator Scott Ludlam came in to bat.
“This is a bill that is at once lazy and dangerous,” he said. “It gives the impression of having done something, and it directly answers to its cashed-up donors and lobbyists.” Describing it as a “second internet filter”, he also expounded on the way such legislation could be used as justification for blocking other sites in the future.
“From little things, big things grow,” he said, sadly not in song.



He then proposed seven — count ‘em — amendments to the bill which were swiftly rejected. As were his pleas to the Labor Party; despite calling for the ALP to “actually be the Opposition and try and hold this government to account for a change”, all 26 Opposition senators voted in favour of the Coalition’s bill.
On a completely unrelated note, earlier this year Josh Taylor of ZDNet found that in the last financial year, Village Roadshow donated $227,500 to the Labor Party and $329,919 to the Libs.



What Sites Will It Block And When?

The law is structured to put the onus on individual copyright holders, but it’s safe to assume it’ll be all of the major ones and soon. If Village Roadshow and Sony see one of their works on an international torrenting site (which they will), they can now apply to the Federal Court to get the whole thing banned (which OF COURSE they will). The Pirate Bay, Kickass Torrents and Project Free TV have all been mentioned in passing; if the court agrees that the “primary purpose” of these sites is to share copyrighted material, Australian ISPs will be forced to block them. iiNet won’t be putting up a fight. You won’t even get the chance to risk going to jail over a Matthew McConaughey film.
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This (but everywhere).
If you’d like to keep track of all the sites on the no-go list, tech journo Will Ockenden has you covered. Last week, anticipating the sadly predictable result of yesterday’s vote, he made a site to track all the applications that will inevitably come through the Federal Court. You can sign up to the mailing list, follow the special Twitter account, or keep an eye on the site itself.
It even comes with a cute picture to make everything a little more bearable. (I’ll see myself out).




Will It Work?

Foxtel seems to think so! But hey, they also thought they were gonna be Australia’s main destination for Game of Thrones.
In a statement released yesterday, the company’s Chief Executive Richard Freudenstein congratulated both major parties for taking a strong stance on the issue, and expressed his faith in the bill noting the success of other countries with similar legislation.
This is true. The UK, for instance, has blocked 93 torrenting sites under similar measures and has enjoyed positive results. But as the BBC have noted, this doesn’t last on a long-term basis — casual users get easily discouraged, but more experienced pirates always continue to do their thing. Moreover, with many taking to VPNs and similar geo-blocking software, it becomes impossible to track how much is being downloaded and from where.
On last week’s Lateline, Pirate Bay co-founder Peter Sunde issued a similar warning to Australian legislators. As a nation long dissatisfied with the range and price of content of local entertainment options, we’ve already heartily taken to Virtual Private Networks, which would render the new law meaningless.



Of course, there are always ways to combat piracy. As Choice campaign manager Erin Turner told us earlier this year, “Stopping the worst of piracy is possible, but only if the Government looks at the reasons behind people’s behaviour … Give people better access to timely, affordable content, and you’ll be giving people reasons to buy instead of pirate.” The launch of Australian Netflix and local streaming services like Stan are evidence of great advances on this issue, but we’re still an age away from being on par with international offerings.
Case in point: with Foxtel, HBO Go, and torrents, you had three options when watching True Detective last night. Only the most expensive one was above board.




So, Pirates Can Just Use A VPN?

Yep! For now at least. There’s been concerns that this bill could be used to also target those accessing (and paying) for international services like US Netflix, Hulu and HBO Go, but it’s all still up in the air.
Earlier this year Australian Competition and Consumer Commission Chairman Rod Sims told ZDNet the bill needed to “ensure that a definition of infringing content does not apply to content authorised by owners in other jurisdictions”, to avoid copyright owners “inappropriately threatening” users. But speaking in the House of Reps last week, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull explicitly minimised the concern. “If Australian rights owners have got issues about American sites selling content to Australians [that they don’t have the local rights for], they should take it up with them,” he said. “The big boys can sort it out between themselves and leave the consumers out of it.”
Senator Ludlam drew attention to this confusion before the vote, putting forward an amendment to “clear up the definition of sites targeted by the bill, so that it cannot include Virtual Private Networks which have legitimate purposes”. But hey, you should know how that goes by now:

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Re: The Factuals versus the Old Age BS or OABS

Raven Yesterday at 11:57 pm
[9:49:36 AM-Tuesday, June23rd, 2015/-7UCT] Sirius 17: well it took me about 12 hours to drive here
[9:50:05 AM] Sirius 17: we got here last night around 9:30 pm
[9:50:31 AM] Sirius 17: mom just got done mowing the lawn and seems to be doing well
[9:50:35 AM] Sirius 17: it is hotter than hell here
[10:08:19 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/australian-senate-passes-controversial-antipiracy-websiteblocking-laws-20150622-ghuorh.html
[10:08:31 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Neat yes good you arrived safely
[10:21:49 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/577999/copyright-legislation-fears-scope-creep-website-blocking-regime/
[10:22:03 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/577761/dallas-buyers-club-won-t-reveal-how-much-pirates-will-pay/
[10:23:00 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

JohnnyB • 5 days ago

It's a shame the Greens have no power in the parliament as they seem to be the only group concern about people’s rights over overseas corporations rights.

Labor seem to be sitting on their hands on the matter. They have probably been paid off just like the Libs which large "donations" to ensure that overseas corporations get to run this country and not Australians.
The anti-piracy filter will be through soon, just watch. Get a VPN now while you can www.reviewmyvpn.com

[10:23:10 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/577772/greens-call-delay-anti-piracy-internet-filter/
[10:28:51 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://media.smh.com.au/video-technology/video-digital-life/war-on-the-internet-6619276.html
[10:28:56 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: War on the Internet
[10:29:30 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: remember I could not watch youtube because of geoblocking, like the 'Hello Earth"
[10:30:01 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I installed a VPN and now can
[12:51:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember
[12:51:57 PM] Sirius 17: what is vpn?
[12:53:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://junkee.com/junk-explained-what-even-are-vpns-and-will-you-get-in-trouble-for-using-one/55754
[12:56:51 PM] Sirius 17:
(It’s worth noting they’re not really worthwhile for anyone with a slow connection — it’ll just make everything even more torturous and hey, you’re probably not doing a whole lot of streaming or uploading anyway.)
Read more at http://junkee.com/junk-explained-what-even-are-vpns-and-will-you-get-in-trouble-for-using-one/55754#DtP6odhxyYG8Cqzl.99
[12:56:57 PM] Sirius 17: how is your connection speed?
[12:57:40 PM] Sirius 17: interesting that Australia is doing this
[12:57:50 PM] Sirius 17: the anti-piracy shi20
[12:57:56 PM] Sirius 17: big brother strikes again
[12:58:22 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Oh yes read about the lag of material
[12:59:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: it often takes 3 months before a USA release is available here it’s the old business of film- film release-wait for the box office-then give it to tv stations and then wait again and then put it on dvds
[12:59:54 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Also Oz prizes for most films and software are so 200-300% more expensive than in the USA and Europe
[12:59:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is difficult to get new releases
[1:00:13 PM] Sirius 17: but with bit torrent it is not lol
[1:00:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is a big rip-off
[1:00:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
[1:00:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I posted a detailed post with videos
[1:00:42 PM] Sirius 17: you guys especially are getting ripped off
[1:00:51 PM] Sirius 17: oh where?
[1:00:53 PM] Sirius 17: on moa?
[1:00:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7453p30-the-factuals-versus-the-old-age-bs-or-oabs#113327
[1:01:08 PM] Sirius 17: i have not checked anything here yet i was visiting with my mom
[1:01:27 PM] Sirius 17: she is laying down for a nap now
[1:01:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes you said she is ok
[1:01:37 PM] Sirius 17: she mowed the whole back lawn already
[1:01:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I posted all of the other 2 chapters on xen but not on moa
[1:05:34 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[1:06:49 PM] Sirius 17: are you up late or early there?
[1:08:32 PM] Sirius 17: this censorship is such bs
[1:08:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: late
[1:08:43 PM] Sirius 17: so much for free internet
[1:08:45 PM] Sirius 17: idiots
[1:09:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes and i took a VPN to safeguard at least the next year or so
[1:11:03 PM] Sirius 17: well i don't download off pirate bay or anything so i don't need to worry about it
[1:11:18 PM] Sirius 17: but look at youtube
[1:11:25 PM] Sirius 17: this is the future of its content
[1:11:29 PM] Sirius 17: empty
[1:11:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes same thing
[1:11:56 PM] Sirius 17: because everyone is using everyone else in making videos from music to photos to video
[1:12:10 PM] Sirius 17: and so if they enact this than you might as well shut youtube down
[1:12:24 PM] Sirius 17: the idiots that own youtube should have fought this tooth and nail
[1:12:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: well it was a clandestine trick by the Tories here and it will publically backfire
[1:12:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But it will take time
[1:13:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes exactly weak morons
[1:13:41 PM] Sirius 17: they are just doing their part to make Orwell come true
[1:17:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://junkee.com/junk-explained-are-you-going-to-jail-over-a-matthew-mcconaughey-film-or-what/54663
[1:18:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: this is the test case the morons are testing with Oz courts
[1:18:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But as you see they are using threatening tactics and have bribed and bought the Oz government and opposition
[1:19:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes they should have resisted the ass8oles, what are they going to do now, jail the entire country? i doubt it
[1:19:36 PM] Sirius 17: they strong armed them for monetary settlements
[1:19:37 PM ] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is serious in a way, as the Oz public is too stupid generally to see this as it is
[1:19:39 PM] Sirius 17: such bs
[1:20:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: we know the USA folks are dumbed down but they believe in their constitution of rights
[1:20:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: we don’t have such a bill here
[1:20:54 PM]Shiloh Za-Rah: So the gov gets away with the media PR bs
[1:21:54 PM] Sirius 17: unreal
[1:22:02 PM] Sirius 17: yeah they should have just told them to fuc11 off
[1:22:26 PM] Sirius 17: what are they going to do, toss everyone who has ever downloaded into jail?
[1:22:28 PM] Sirius 17: go for it
[1:22:37 PM] Sirius 17: it would be idiotic
[1:22:56 PM] Sirius 17: no, they are threatening them with fines because they know fearful people will just send cash
[1:23:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[1:23:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is a test case
[1:23:10 PM] Sirius 17: and since it works they keep doing it
[1:23:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Oz gov is too idiotic and luddite to see this
[1:23:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They also gave donations to BOTH parties
[1:23:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: bought them
[1:23:49 PM] Sirius 17: silly
[1:23:54 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Foxtel and Murdoch moron
[1:24:56 PM] Sirius 17: i really think art has lost meaning when it costs money
[1:25:12 PM] Sirius 17: of course not a single actor or actress would agree
[1:25:17 PM] Sirius 17: they make bank
[1:25:46 PM] Sirius 17: but i got this sick feeling at the arts festival in Edmonds about just this sort of thing
[1:26:06 PM] Sirius 17: that all art is being watered down and we are now all paying for shittyness. Serial Andy Warhol art, repetitive.
[1:26:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: greed greed greed
[1:26:23 PM] Sirius 17: nothing extraordinary has come out of Hollywood in years
[1:26:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCA/2015/317.html
[1:26:36 PM] Sirius 17: it is all re-runs of the same regurgitated bs
[1:28:17 PM] Sirius 17: people are stupid though, they continue to support shittyness not realizing that where they spend their money can change the game
[1:28:47 PM] Sirius 17: if everyone stopped supporting Hollywood, they might learn a lesson
[1:28:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If this Oz regulation becomes law, which is likely now this iinet isp will change its support of its customers
[1:28:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://blog.iinet.net.au/not-our-kind-of-club/
[1:29:06 PM] Sirius 17: they make fuc11ing billions already, what is it to them a few fuc11ing free downloads
[1:29:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
In this case, we have serious concerns about Dallas Buyers Club’s intentions. We are concerned that our customers will be unfairly targeted to settle any claims out of court using a practice called “speculative invoicing”.

What is speculative invoicing?
Speculative invoicing, as practiced overseas, commonly involves sending intimidating letters of demand to subscribers seeking significant sums for an alleged infringement. These letters often threaten court action and point to high monetary penalties if sums are not paid.

Our concerns with speculative invoicing by Dallas Buyers Club in Australia include:
Users might be subject to intimidation by excessive claims for damages, as made by Dallas Buyers Club in other countries.
Because allegations of copyright infringement are linked to IP addresses, the alleged infringer could be incorrectly identified if details of the account holder were revealed. For example, the relevant IP address could have originated from a person in a shared household, an individual visiting a household which has open WiFi, or a school, or an Internet cafe.
Because Australian courts have not tested these cases, any threat by rights holders, premised on the outcome of a successful copyright infringement action, would be speculative.
- See more at: http://blog.iinet.net.au/not-our-kind-of-club/#sthash.QoXsDwhG.G8xFCzp4.dpuf
[1:30:30 PM] Sirius 17: well good for iinet for fighting it
[1:30:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol this was 0ct 2014
[1:30:50 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: BEFORE this judge opened the door
[1:31:16 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If court orders iinet MUST release the details which they did 4k of them
[1:31:57 PM] Sirius 17:
What is speculative invoicing?

Speculative invoicing, as practiced overseas, commonly involves sending intimidating letters of demand to subscribers seeking significant sums for an alleged infringement. These letters often threaten court action and point to high monetary penalties if sums are not paid.
- See more at: http://blog.iinet.net.au/not-our-kind-of-club/#sthash.Gou1KTl2.dpuf
[1:32:03 PM] Sirius 17: and so this is what did happen then?
[1:32:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is very devious
[1:32:28 PM] Sirius 17: fuc11ing hell
[1:32:35 PM] Sirius 17: unbelievable
[1:32:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: they want to know your income and practices
[1:32:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: the 'fines' would depend on your income
[1:32:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/577761/dallas-buyers-club-won-t-reveal-how-much-pirates-will-pay/
[1:32:59 PM] Sirius 17: great
[1:33:01 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Nice folks those 'artists' indeed
[1:33:24 PM] Sirius 17: makes me want to boycott Hollywood totally
[1:33:48 PM] Sirius 17: i need a vpn and to start pirating everything lol
[1:34:01 PM] Sirius 17: this is what people should do
[1:34:09 PM] Sirius 17: like everyone
[1:34:14 PM] Sirius 17: don't go to the movies ever
[1:34:23 PM] Sirius 17: just download the pirated copies
[1:34:26 PM] Sirius 17: fuc11 them
[1:35:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/heres-the-letter-aussie-dallas-buyers-club-pirates-are-getting-in-the-mail/
[1:36:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: A $5 dvd becomes 10,000
[1:36:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol
[1:37:58 PM] Sirius 17: yeah talk about racketeering
[1:39:09 PM] Sirius 17: people should just ignore the letters
[1:39:15 PM] Sirius 17: what are they going to do if you don't pay?
[1:39:22 PM] Sirius 17: they are not going to throw everyone in jail
[1:40:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
This was designed to avoid so-called "speculative invoicing", which Voltage has used in the US to demand up to $9,000 in compensation or face having to pay potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages under court order.
[1:40:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.zdnet.com/article/dallas-buyers-club-vows-to-send-letters-to-infringers/
[1:41:27 PM] Sirius 17: this is serious extortion
[1:41:50 PM] Sirius 17: they went after the mobs for this kind of sh9t
[1:42:01 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Bleeding hearts pretending yes
[1:42:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 100,000 for a $5 download
[1:42:43 PM] Sirius 17: seriously who has that kind of money these days?
[1:42:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The pirates of Oz
[1:42:58 PM] Sirius 17: not the poor folks who are downloading
[1:43:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The pirates might have buried treasures on fantasy islands
[1:43:32 PM] Sirius 17: right
[1:43:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It’s a bluff mostly
[1:43:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[1:44:01 PM] Sirius 17: but a clever one to see what they can get away with
[1:44:08 PM] Sirius 17: insidious and sick
[1:44:22 PM] Sirius 17: they will find people who will pay the fines
[1:44:33 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
The amount of compensation is likely to be much lower in Australia than in the US, according to Shelston IP partner Mark Vincent.

"I think the realistic expectation is that if you sue someone for infringement for a single download would be to make AU$20, as a studio," he told ZDNet.

The court may award additional damages, but Vincent said that courts have historically been reluctant to do so.

"There is some ability for an Australian court to find that additional damages are warranted under Section 115 of the Copyright Act. That section has been used sparingly by the courts, and has only been used for the most flagrant cases of infringement," he said.

"And even so, they've been pretty modest, in the low tens of thousands."
[1:44:35 PM] Sirius 17: and make 10x the money
[1:45:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: lol
[1:45:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: it’s a test case to see if they can dupe Oz courts and lawmakers
[1:45:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes well see they should only be able to charge for the price of the DVD
[1:45:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Seems they can
[1:45:40 PM] Sirius 17: not 10k
[1:45:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: read the article i excerpted
[1:46:02 PM] Sirius 17: which one, you pasted so many, i have been reading them
[1:46:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
Voltage Pictures may seek to recoup some of its court costs, but Vincent said it would be difficult for the company to seek costs from all 4,726 alleged infringers.

He said individuals may face having to pay court costs should the cases go to court, but most individuals would be encouraged to make an offer to settle the case, and win back their own costs.

"So it is possible for an individual infringer to say 'well in terms of damages, I will pay you AU$25', and if you don't beat that award, I am going to seek costs from you. It is not a forgone conclusion that there would be a big costs bill for an individual infringer," he said.

He said that the court rules made Australia "not a great jurisdiction" for rights holders to chase individual downloaders.

"Certainly not compared to the US. No one would do it as a money-making exercise -- pursue an individual infringer. It could only be to make a stand for the purpose of educating the public about the appropriate forms of conduct online, and keeping the debate rolling on," he said.

"It's a debate that isn't finished, and won't be finished for the foreseeable future -- and may never be finished as technology keeps changing."
[1:47:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.zdnet.com/article/dallas-buyers-club-vows-to-send-letters-to-infringers/
[1:49:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
"We're the first film maker to say enough is enough; if we don't change the business model, we will fail. We want to continue as a business, but when I see piracy rates in Australia above 50 percent, that's not a business model that can be sustained."
[1:50:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: check 'Australia Tax' for background why this rate is 50%
[1:50:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes, i had no idea how much you guys were being raped in taxes
[1:51:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.afr.com/technology/web/ecommerce/online-piracy-fuelled-by-australia-tax-price-gouging-20140729-jk4dl
[1:51:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
An independent study has found 79 per cent of Australians are concerned about being charged significantly more than their US counterparts for digital products like movies, music, software and games, despite a bipartisan parliamentary enquiry a year ago urging changes.

The survey of almost 1200 Australians by Essential Media Communications found 58 per cent are also concerned that movies and TV shows were available for downloading in other countries but not legally in Australia. The study comes after a draft government discussion paper was leaked on Friday, which set out tough plans to crack down on Australians breaching copyright via online piracy.
[1:51:42 PM ] Shiloh Za-Rah: Voltage conveniently forgets to address this
[1:52:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes hypocrites
[1:52:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
After hearing from the major players involved, including Apple, Microsoft and Adobe, the final report from last year’s inquiry found goods and services are, on average, 50 per cent more expensive in Australia than other countries, prompting the committee to suggest changes to the law to reduce local prices

Often termed the “Australia Tax", the report highlighted numerous examples of products costing significantly more in Australia than elsewhere in the world. Companies claimed this was due to a mixture of local copyright holders in the case of iTunes, retailer’s decisions on what a market can bear in the case of Microsoft and various other factors impacting on the cost of doing business in Australia.

The report largely rejected this, saying the price differences for IT products could not be explained by the cost of doing business in Australia, particularly when it came to digitally delivered content.

Consumer advocacy group CHOICE said the tone of the government’s piracy discussion paper had shown little attention had been paid to the raw deal experienced by Australians, who attempted to buy online from overseas.

CHOICE campaigns manager Erin Turner said Australians still commonly paid twice as much for software and other digital products like games and music. While she said the IT Pricing Enquiry had provided a bipartisan blueprint for reforms to address price discrimination, the government had seemingly failed to take any notice.
[1:53:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Pisswek Oz govt taking bribes. So you see why this will become a public issue
[1:54:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: you see why this issue will become a public issue
[1:54:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[1:55:28 PM] Sirius 17: that is crazy that you guys have to pay so much
[1:55:31 PM] Sirius 17: no reason for it
[1:55:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

“If the leaks are correct, the government’s leaked anti-piracy discussion paper has missed the opportunity to deal with this problem – in fact, the paper explicitly says the government does not want to receive comment on Australia tax issues," MS Turner said.

She said the leaked paper appeared to focus on expanding the liability of internet service providers for copyright infringement, and introducing an anti-piracy internet filter, whereas these kinds of measures had proven ineffective against piracy overseas and had been costly for consumers.

One argument often offered to justify the high levels of piracy in Australia is the lack of availability of affordable and timely legal alternatives in Australia. File-sharing website TorrentFreak, for example, said Game of Thrones, which is broadcast exclusively by Foxtel in Australia, was illegally downloaded 1.5 million times by Australians in the 12 hours following the finale of its latest season in the US.
[1:56:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Foxtel is a monopoly of this idiot billionaire Australian who has taken US citizenship
[1:56:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Rupert Murdoch
[1:57:01 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he owns over 50% of ALL media in Oz
[1:57:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He bought the last election too
[1:58:01 PM] Sirius 17: ptb oligarchs again
[1:58:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
[1:58:08 PM] Sirius 17: Murdoch is on the list
[1:58:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.businessinsider.com/inside-rupert-murdochs-luxurious-private-jet-2015-6?IR=T
[1:58:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he is actually an Oz traitor
[1:59:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But of course the business moguls love him
[1:59:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he owns fox
[1:59:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: and cnn or the like
[2:00:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As Fox is the only place where game oft can be seen legally he charges a lot in monopoly and the kids download games via torrents as alternative
[2:01:04 PM] Sirius 17: i thought Ted Turner owned CNN
[2:01:12 PM] Sirius 17: unless he sold it to Murdoch
[2:01:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes i meant 21st century fox
[2:01:42 PM] Sirius 17: oh
[2:02:31 PM] Sirius 17: yeah anyone who has an 84 million dollar jet doesn't have their head on straight
[2:02:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Rupert_Murdoch_Wendi_Murdoch_2011_Shankbone.JPG/220px-Rupert_Murdoch_Wendi_Murdoch_2011_Shankbone.JPG
[2:02:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: lol
[2:03:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I don’t think he can fuc11 Wendi
[2:03:21 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[2:03:27 PM] Sirius 17: doesn't look like it
[2:03:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: sugar daddy
[2:03:43 PM] Sirius 17: he must get his rocks off some other way
[2:03:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well power games
[2:04:01 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he is behind Oz elections
[2:04:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: manipulates public opinion via his media control
[2:04:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He basically brainwashed the Oz electors
[2:04:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes obviously and here too with the fox cinema and what films they produce
[2:04:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yet he is American see?
[2:05:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes totally conservative rightwing republican of course
[2:05:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see
[2:05:22 PM] Sirius 17: i am sure he has his fingers in American politics too
[2:05:36 PM] Sirius 17: anyone that rich in America has major influence
[2:05:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
In May 2007, Murdoch made a $5 billion offer to purchase Dow Jones. At the time, the Bancroft family, who had owned the Dow Jones for 105 years and controlled 64% of the shares at the time, declined the offer. Later, the Bancroft family confirmed a willingness to consider a sale. Besides Murdoch, the Associated Press reported that supermarket magnate Ron Burkle and Internet entrepreneur Brad Greenspan were among the other interested parties.[99] In 2007, Murdoch acquired Dow Jones,[100][101] which gave him such publications as The Wall Street Journal, Barron's Magazine, the Far Eastern Economic Review (based in Hong Kong) and SmartMoney.[102]

In June 2014, Murdoch's 21st Century Fox made a bid for Time Warner at $85 per share in stock and cash ($80 billion total) which Time Warner's board of directors turned down in July. Warner's CNN unit would have been sold to ease antitrust issues of the purchase.[103] On 5 August 2014 the company announced it had withdrawn its offer for Time Warner, and said it would spend $6 billion buying back its own shares over the following 12 months.[104]
[2:06:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes see the Warner thing there?
[2:06:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: lol
[2:06:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he wanted CNN too
[2:06:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes but Ted is no dumb cookie
[2:06:54 PM] Sirius 17:
In 2007, Murdoch acquired Dow Jones,[100][101] which gave him such publications as The Wall Street Journal, Barron's Magazine, the Far Eastern Economic Review (based in Hong Kong) and SmartMoney.[102]
[2:06:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Do i care?
[2:07:00 PM] Sirius 17: this is scary sh9t
[2:07:07 PM] Sirius 17: right before the 2008 crash
[2:07:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes a mammon devil
[2:07:35 PM] Sirius 17: well i actually like Ted Turner, he is into conservation
[2:07:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I don’t know lol
[2:07:46 PM] Sirius 17: he is not bad for a rich guy
[2:07:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No opinion, The mammon is Murdoch
[2:08:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes he is a big oligarch fish
[2:08:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: rather
[2:08:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I mention this because he is the numero uno sponsor of rightwing politics in Oz
[2:09:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Ergo behind this new law
[2:09:08 PM] Sirius 17: up there with the Rockefellers, Waltons and such
[2:09:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Foxtel has the 'rights' to the us media releases etc
[2:09:42 PM] Sirius 17: oh really
[2:09:51 PM] Sirius 17: that is interesting
[2:09:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Oz folks want to watch new releases they either 'buy' Murdoch stuff or have to pirate
[2:10:08 PM] Sirius 17: i am with them on pirating
[2:10:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well game of thrones is the test case as you see in my post
[2:10:34 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He owns exclusive rights to broadcast in Oz
[2:10:37 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: noone else can
[2:10:51 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[2:10:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The dwarf Tyrion lol
[2:11:03 PM] Sirius 17: have you downloaded game of thrones yet?
[2:11:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: no
[2:11:08 PM] Sirius 17: you should
[2:11:13 PM] Sirius 17: you would love it
[2:11:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I know of it via Asha and Tyrion
[2:11:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:11:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: well your comparison
[2:11:41 PM] Sirius 17: i have watched it on HBO the last 5 years
[2:12:02 PM] Sirius 17: it is 5 seasons and still going
[2:12:14 PM] Sirius 17: the guy has an incredible imagination
[2:13:20 PM] Sirius 17: yeah they charge like $80 a season on DVD here i think
[2:13:27 PM] Sirius 17: it is huge money
[2:14:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
On 25 June 1999, 17 days after divorcing his second wife, Murdoch, then aged 68, married Chinese-born Wendi Deng.[131] She was 30, a recent Yale School of Management graduate, and a newly appointed vice-president of his STAR TV. Murdoch has two daughters with her; Grace (born 2001) and Chloe (born 2003). Rupert Murdoch has six children in all, and is grandfather to thirteen grandchildren.[132] On 13 June 2013, a News Corporation spokesperson confirmed that Murdoch filed for divorce from Deng in New York City, U.S.[133] According to the spokesman, the marriage had been irretrievably broken for more than six months.[134] Murdoch also ended his long-standing relationship with Tony Blair after suspecting him of having an affair with Deng while they were still married.[135]
[2:14:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is funny
[2:14:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Wendi fuc11ing Tony Blair
[2:14:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: British expm
[2:15:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes that is funny
[2:15:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: lol it stays in the megalomaniac family
[2:15:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: ptb wannabees
[2:15:24 PM] Sirius 17: right lol
[2:15:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Unfathomable why Wendi is wanting other blokes, is it not?
[2:16:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: having this rich dic11
[2:16:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: What would have been the 'settlements'?
[2:17:03 PM] Sirius 17: yeah who knows
[2:17:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I am being sarcastic
[2:17:24 PM] Sirius 17: i read about the Russian oligarch getting divorced and his settlement running into the billions
[2:17:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
[2:17:45 PM] Sirius 17: it is sick sh9t though seriously
[2:18:15 PM] Sirius 17: they called his divorce the most expensive in history
[2:18:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_21st_Century_Fox
[2:18:59 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/20/world/europe/russian-billionaire-dmitry-rybolovlev-divorce/index.html
[2:19:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
News Corp papers were accused of supporting the campaign of the Australian Liberal government and influencing public opinion during the 2013 federal election. Following the announcement of the Liberal Party victory at the polls, Murdoch tweeted "Aust. election public sick of public sector workers and phony welfare scroungers sucking life out of economy. Other nations to follow in time".[154]
[2:19:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He does not like poor people, calling them welfare suckers
[2:20:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is the big push here too with the right wing republicans, get rid of the socialists and fuc11 the poor and homeless
[2:20:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: well he is a 'naturalized American'
[2:20:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes, useless eaters as the ptb say
[2:23:18 PM] Sirius 17: wow Fox owns a huge portion of the media
[2:30:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes you saw my reply to nabs Burgundia?
[2:30:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I was induced to answer her crap, which was all ignored of course
[2:31:45 PM] Sirius 17: no i haven't read moa yet
[2:31:50 PM] Sirius 17: give me a link
[2:32:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7241p525-we-are-being-hypnotized-by-numbers-letters-symbols-colours
[2:33:03 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes this i saw
[2:33:09 PM] Sirius 17: well on xenforo
[2:33:15 PM] Sirius 17: i didn't see it on moa until now
[2:33:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes the 7th son
[2:33:22 PM] Sirius 17: why i commented on seeing the seventh son
[2:33:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But see how they all ignored real analysis?
[2:33:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes of course
[2:34:02 PM] Sirius 17: they only see what fits their NABS agenda, like some people we know
[2:34:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This September 23rd date is well and easy known without any ptb conspiracy
[2:34:33 PM] Sirius 17: anything pointing out their fallacies they conveniently sweep under the rug
[2:34:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It will be interesting how all forget about the imminence of this 'end of the world' on October 1st, lol
[2:35:28 PM] Sirius 17: right, until the next prediction
[2:35:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Of course the ptb 'know' this date from their researchers
[2:35:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: June 7th, 1967 is historically used to 'predict' future developments ergo those youtubers
[2:36:12 PM] Sirius 17: should i watch those videos you put there - ?
[2:36:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes, because then you can see the associated pics in the proper context like the gens
[2:36:52 PM] Sirius 17: ok i will put it on my to do list then
[2:36:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You will actually understand the agenda then
[2:39:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxw2uK7WGtA​

[2:39:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is also interesting about contact and the ETs- Richard Dolan and the book quotes of this Hellyer bloke
[2:39:51 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/us/feat-ceres-pyramid/index.html did you see this?
[2:39:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It refers to the disclosure of Thuban-Logos
[2:40:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I mean they don’t know but we do what this scenario is
[2:41:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: could be some chemical deposit
[2:43:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 3 miles is about 5 km Mt Everest is 8 km
[2:44:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Anyway listen to this foot doctor Leir and Dolan mainly
[2:45:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: there is some good stuff from Leir at the end
[2:45:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hellyer is ok when reading from the ET telepathy
[2:45:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: most other stuff you can skip and Greer you know
[2:45:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The science bloke just describes our 'Cosmic magnetism' paper
[2:46:06 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[2:46:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he is wrong calling Einstein's Equivalence Principle wrong, but I know what he means
[2:46:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He means the prior magnetic monopole physics of rotating masses/inertia
[2:47:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will watch it
[2:47:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You will understand this well enough

 

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• Post n°35

Re: The Factuals versus the Old Age BS or OABS

shiloh Today at 9:20 pm
Raven wrote: [9:49:36 AM-Tuesday, June23rd, 2015/-7UCT]

Extraterrestrial Physics of the Citizen's Disclosure Project​

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxw2uK7WGtA​

[2:39:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is also interesting about contact and the ETs- Richard Dolan and the book quotes of this Hellyer bloke
[2:39:51 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/us/feat-ceres-pyramid/index.html did you see this?
[2:39:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It refers to the disclosure of Thuban-Logos
[2:40:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I mean they don’t know but we do what this scenario is
[2:41:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: could be some chemical deposit
[2:43:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 3 miles is about 5 km Mt Everest is 8 km
[2:44:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Anyway listen to this foot doctor Leir and Dolan mainly
[2:45:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: there is some good stuff from Leir at the end
[2:45:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hellyer is ok when reading from the ET telepathy
[2:45:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: most other stuff you can skip and Greer you know
[2:45:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The science bloke just describes our 'Cosmic magnetism' paper
[2:46:06 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[2:46:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he is wrong calling Einstein's Equivalence Principle wrong, but I know what he means
[2:46:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He means the prior magnetic monopole physics of rotating masses/inertia
[2:47:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will watch it
[2:47:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You will understand this well enough

​

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The Inertial Newtonian Mass equation F=ma, applied to the Lorentz Force F=qvxB and applied as a magnetic force law is not quite correct, but is rather an approximation to the actual ET omniphysics.
Just as the electromagnetic wave propagation consists of both electric and magnetic field components; so does this connection of forces unify characteristic accelerations in a dimensional bridge, transformation or intersection.

The derivation engages the higher dimensional membrane physics and is based on the definition of physical consciousness as inverse source energy of the Zero-Point Energy or Vacuum Potential Energy characterising both the 'dark matter' and the 'dark energy' and as Tom Valone appropriately infers from the UFO science in his testimony given in the video presentation above.

The universal spacetime matrix defines the inverse source energy as a high energy microcosmic part of the 11D supermembrane unified with its low energy macrocosmic partner and as E_{(p)rimary(s)ource}=hf_ps=1/e* and with e* being the higher dimensional originator for the link between universal gravitation and magnetism in the form of a magnetic monopole.
This form of primordial higherD magnetism then forms a dimensional gradient or intersection with a lower electric pole, known as the familiar electric charge carrying inertial mass associated elementary particles, like electrons and protons and subatomic constituents of matter.

In the origins of the universe, the quantum form of the Big Bang manifested space from a quantum fluctuation, which can be described as the 'bounce of a minimum length' or a 'Planck-Length-Oscillation', which can be formally expressed as the ratio of 'MassCharge'/Energy = e/c² in the Planck Oscillator E_o=½hf_o=hw/4p as precursor for the 'Uncertainty Principle' of the Heisenberg Field matrix of spacetime.

The mensuration- or measurement units for the 'Planck-Length-Oscillator' so identify the origin of displacement as a Electropole Charge 'e'/c² ratio and which has 'Stoney Charge Units' for a 'dimensionless' 'speed of light squared'.

e/c²=√Alpha.Planck-Length=√{(e²/2e_ohc).(G_oh/2pc³)}=√(G_oe²/4pe_oc⁴)=√(G_o/4pe_o).e/c²=e/c² for Unity 1 in G_o=4pe_o.

This unity boundary condition or 'Action=Charge Squared' Universal Law of MultiD crystallizes naturally from the Identification of the dimensionless finestructures for the higher dimensional membrane unification between the gravitational and electromagnetic finestructures.
Omega = Gravitational Finestructure = 2pG_oM²/hc = 2pke²/hc = Alpha = Electromagnetic Finestructure and for k=1/4pe_o.
Then G_oM² = ke² and for G_ok=1 for G_o=1/k=4pe_o.

The 'Universal Mass' M can then be expressed as M² = k²e² and M=e/4pe_o

The Maxwell Theory of Electromagnetism however defines the invariance of the Mass/Energy ratio for the inverse of the square of the speed of light as the product of magnetic permeability m_o and electric permittivity e_o in the coupling of the magnetic field with the electric field in that electromagnetic wave.
This can be written as m_oe_o=(120p/c)(1/120pc)= 1/c² with M=e/4e_o=[30ec]_monopolar

The magnetopole charge e* from the 'higher' 12th dimension so 'maps' or dimensionally intersects the 'lower' 3rd dimensional electropole charge e across a 11-dimensional mirror, which can be formally identified as the higher dimensional boundary for the lower dimensional universe and also as its 'holographic' de Sitter Black Hole 'Hubble Event' Horizon.

The 12 dimensional 'displacement bounce' manifests as a 3 dimensional elementary distance scale, known as the classical radius of the electron and defined in the electropotential energy of the electron in E=m_electronc²=ke²/R_electron and so for R_electron=ke²/m_electronc².
Setting the Inverse Source Energy quantum at the foundational VPE wormhole scale, defined in the magnetopole charge e*=1/E_ps=2R_electronc² then defines this inversion membrane-string quantum energy as the product of ordinary 3D volume multiplied by angular acceleration, expressed as the time differential for frequency f or df/dt=awareness aw, say as the alphaomega quantum of creation.

The Linear Acceleration in Newton's Force Law F=ma transforms into an Angular Acceleration in the Lorentz Law formulations of Haisch-Puthoff utilized by Thomas Valone.

The Biot-Savart Law for a magnetic field is given by B=m_oev/4pr² measured in Tesla with a linear velocity v relating to an angular velocity w via radius r as v=wr=2pf.r and reducing to v=wr=pf.r for the minimum Planck Oscillator E_o=½hf_o

B=(120p/c).ewr/8pr²=30ecw/2rc² = Mw/2c²r

A reformulation of the Biot-Savart Law inclusive of the higher dimensional acceleration coupling, then equates to the Lorentz Force manifesting as the UFO propulsion-antigravitational dynamics observed and analysed.

F=evxB = ewr.Mw/2c²r = e w²_angularM_{gravitational=inertial higherD}/2c² = M_{inertial lowerD}a_linear in the elementary ET Force Ratio:

F_12D/F_3D = M_{gravitational}w²_angular/M_inertiala_linear = 2c²/e = 2c²R_electron/eR_electron= e*/eR_electron = 1/E_pseR_electron = 1/hf_pseR_electron

In higher D it is the electropole charge e of the lower dimension, which manifests the magnetopole charge e* as universal 'spacetime awareness' or physical consciousness.
The 'Magnetic Lorentz Force' of Haisch-Puthoff-Valone then superimposes the intrinsic (selfcontained) angular 'higher D' acceleration of the UFO spacecraft as dimensional gradient between the space -separated charges e and e* onto its linear 4D spacetime matrix to manifest the 'spacetime jumps' and rapid acceleration phenomena observed in UFO manouvers.

This part of their formulation is correct; however the Equivalence Principle of General Relativity remains valid in that the inertial mass acceleration measured in Minkowski spacetime is gravitationally indistinguishable from the acceleration experienced in a gravitational field.
It is not a difference in the formulations for the mass-inertia parameter, which enables the force interactions to intersect dimensionally without the spacetime dependency as stipulated by lightspeed invariance; but the origins of the mass itself, either expressed linearly inertially or spinning gravitationally.
The origins of mass as fundamental parameter to formulate a law of gravitation, so derives not from some 'Big Banged' matter-antimatter distribution, but from a massless 'wormholed' supermembraned universe, whose curvature was caused by the unification boundary condition of the equivalence of the electromagnetic- and gravitational finestructures, known as Alpha and Omega respectively.

Those finestructures then determined the quantum properties of displacement, time, mass and charge as a function of the 'wormhole oscillation'; defining properties such as the mass, charge and size of the electron as the fundamental spacetime path of the minimum 12D spacetime configuration of the wormhole and given by the Planck-Length-Oscillation as a direct manifestation or image in the Classical 3D Radius of the Electron, the latter also defining the subatomic magnetic asymptotic confinement of the nuclear interactions and the size of the Higgs- and Weakon bosons.

The Alpha-Omega Unification underpinning all physics terrestrial and omniphysics extraterrestrial then enables the physical cosmology and universe to emerge in an evolving spacetime continuum, however wormhole based; from its metaphysical precursor, whose elementary building block becomes the Quantum of Consciousness defined in the inversed source energy aka the magnetopole charge e*.

The metaphysical connector to the physics can be shown to unify in a pure abstract mathematical series known as the Fibonacci Numbers and a 'Golden Ratio' to relate in one-to-one correspondence to the electromagnetic finestructure constant Alpha defined in a manifested physical universe as the size and scale of an electropolar charged electron.

The Zero-Point-Energy of the wormhole matrix permeating all spacetimes then provides a energy reservoir of potential manifestation and utility, depending however on the ability of spacetime inhabitors and observers to 'tap' this energy via resonating with the native definitions of the 'cosmic awareness' defining the constituents of the universe and including such notions of 'Dark Energy' and the 'Dark Matter' and as a function of the 'Consciousness Supercosmic Energy'.


Now some not so moronic, naive and gullible nabsers swarming the 'alternative science' forums might understand the real ET physics and could share this information with the Citizen's Disclosure Project's congress folk and say Steven Greer and Thomas Valone and Roger Leir and associates and similars.
Would this not allow the ETs to move a step closer of real science disclosure being made possible?
The true ET Councils know their own science of course, but the fake ET councils do not.
Then any 'incomplete and underinformed' 'ptb secret technology' and 'dark operation projects' will lose their relevance and no longer would be necessity for ET contact with their cosmic agendas and as stipulated by the real ET councils.

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Shalom de Alpha Draconis Omega of the 4th Contact Scenario in the Shadow of Logistics of Thuban​

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[23-Apr-16 1:15:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: Well hopefully you feel the beneficial energy from it
[23-Apr-16 1:29:33 PM] Sirius 17: we are back, yes today is earth day as well and so the ultimate truth cannot be conveyed in words but can be felt as energy
ShilohaPlace: This is a non sequitur. Of course feeling is potent but proper explanations can certainly lead to understandings
Sirius 17: yes i guess what i was trying to convey is that the energy can't lie; it either is or it isn't - you can't twist its words
ShilohaPlace: True what I am trying to show you with my desires for your bodyform. This is being FELT and has biochemical brain-mind effects etc
Sirius 17: yes i understood something just now
ShilohaPlace: Phew. Namely?
Sirius 17: call it a wordless knowing, i felt the truth
ShilohaPlace: Which is?
Sirius 17: the Logos
ShilohaPlace: Yes and how do we feel the Logos?
Sirius 17: well through love and the desire for more of it and the desire to merge with it
ShilohaPlace: Yes cosmic seduction is a word for some high sexual vibration energy permeating our bodies or such. Kundalini as just another word for it, but known for millennia to exist
Sirius 17: yes but it is beyond kundalini
ShilohaPlace: In our case yes, as it is the JCCJ. But the kundalini idea is the sexual expression of the two as one etc say as a triple serpent not just a twin
Sirius 17: anyone can induce kundalini, this is much deeper and more intense
ShilohaPlace: As said the white serpent from above is new adding to the left black and right gold. So it is actually two-way-communication across dimensions

[23-Apr-16 2:37:38 PM] Sirius 17: but how does this relate to the color triplicities
[23-Apr-16 2:38:10 PM] ShilohaPlace: A little technical, but there are 2 basic triplets
Sirius 17: left=...right=...gold=...?
ShilohaPlace: A third becomes the blend of the first 2. No Red is primary start and Yellow is secondary start. Now tell me the tertiary start as a colour
Sirius 17: green?
Shilohalacee: No, Green is the 2nd of the 1st triplet
Sirius 17: blue
ShilohaPlace: RGB and YCM remember. Blue is the 3rd of the 1st. How was the 2nd tripled made? RGB is the beginning. Mix Red and Green = ?
Sirius 17: by mixing rgb with ycm?
ShilohaPlace: Yes; Red+Green=Yellow. Look at this 'secret' for UFO propulsion with respect to what Valone and company term the 'shielding of inertia'. You are here seeing the primary causes of why the ufos display the colours they do in their manouvers. Of course he got 'Einstein's Equivalence mistake' mistaken lol, as what he terms gravitational mass as distinct from inertial mass relates to mass spacetime quantization in the 11D membrane field, where inertial mass becomes a frequency equivalence. But the observation of rotating ufos creating the magneto monopolic electricity as gravitation is correct as shown in this post and elsewhere. The second pic relates to the intrinsic supersymmetry of Maxwell's equation in the introduction of the magnetic (Dirac) monopole as parallel energy manifesto for the higher D - lower D intersection.

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[23-Apr-16 2:41:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: So what is the new potential to make the 3rd? As you said mix 1st and 2nd triplets. Red+Yellow = ?
[23-Apr-16 2:41:36 PM] Sirius 17: lol i don't know i am lost; orange
ShilohaPlace: Indeed. Orange is the start of the third triplet of the radiationmass -resurrection energy etc
Sirius 17: and orange is what chakra again?
ShilohaPlace: Red-Green-Blue = Radiation/Antiradiation - Yellow-Cyan-Magenta = Matter/Antimatter triplet
Orange-Lime-Aquamarine-Turqouise-Indigo-Purple becomes the third. Doubled because Red mixes with Yellow mixes with Green. So there are 2 colours in between R-Y-G. Namely Orange and Lime
Sirius 17: yes i see
ShilohaPlace: Its just the rainbow. Ergo the NW covenant of the Noah as a rainbow. Now you see why Orange is often associated with 'spirituality' say in the robes of tibetean monks etc
Sirius 17: yeah
ShilohaPlace: And the Mexican Ufos you posted some years ago. Drunvalo stuff
Sirius 17: we actually came across one at the tulip festival, a tibetian monk, he was wearing the orange toga robe
ShilohaPlace: So you see I am not making things up. There are contexts
Sirius 17: i never thought you were making anything up
ShilohaPlace: I know but many do lol
Sirius 17: yes i know, they don't read deeply enough
ShilohaPlace: And you are labelled as a Parrot a truth parrot to me
Sirius 17: or at all in most cases and yes i am just a mindless parrot on a string lol; don't tell them i am the string itself tony, lol
ShilohaPlace: sexy bird goddess to me - volupta
Sirius 17: did i tell you Carolina drew me as a bright red unicorn with a green mane?
ShilohaPlace: Red+Green from spirit creates the body in mass
Sirius 17: she is going to surpass me as an artist if she chooses
ShilohaPlace: Sure kids normally do. She wont surpass you in sexappeal though relative to Abba
Sirius 17: so what are you doing now?
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Shiloh Za-RaH

I Am the Darkness of the Purple Dawn and the Light of the Moon Turquoise!



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The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
I Am One in Many and Many in One!
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Signs: The Apocalyptic Vision of The Daniel Project

April 25th, 2013

Signs: The Apocalyptic Vision of The Daniel Project

Posted by: Barry
Published on April 25th, 2013 @ 07:59:00 pm , using 5814 words,
Posted in Opinion

Conservative Refocus Reports
By Barry Secrest
What is it that is now happening to both America and our world?​

Our formerly impregnable walls of security have now been breached twice, in a major way, leading to both death and destruction not only to our own people, but also in many ways to our way of life.
Things have been changing quite dramatically in only the last score of years and to such a degree that billions are increasingly searching for answers and the truth, but more often than not, in all the wrong places. But, what if those answers that we so desperately are seeking have always been easily available to us, if we were to but travel all the way back to our roots, as a nation?
It has been true since the beginning of recorded history and even beyond that. In the earliest days of human history, glyphs and mysterious symbols have been etched into the timeless permanency of stone by ancient man. From massive markings often miles in formation made on earth's many plains only to be seen from strikingly unattainable altitudes, to ruins of ancient mystical origin frequently difficult to trace or even decode for modern man.​

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Humankind has always tried to divine either meaning or portent from past events to include prophetic texts, especially as they might approach future events delving often into the wholly archaic, in many cases. For instance, Astrology, the use of stars to foretell man's comings and goings, is an ancient system obviously still in use, which fuels millions of internet searches daily, and which can generally be found in most morning papers. What many left-stream editors probably fail to understand is that ancient mythology holds that the Archangel Michael was the divine being responsible for delivering the precepts of astrology to man.
The Gathering Storm
In that particular vein and on this site, stretching over the years, we have delved into a number of questions that have bedeviled any sort of rational explanation along with a rather startling amount of apostasies that have plagued both America and the world as a whole. From Earthquakes that sparked conspiracy theories of underground nuclear blasts on the US East Coast or para-Presidential security agents who seemed to visually morph into something else altogether unworldly, to even seeming governmentally involved False-Flag operations which habitually confound the mainstream media to even glance momentarily in a different direction, despite certain evidences to the contrary lying clearly all about.
Meanwhile Peppered in between these articles which seek to question, visitors will find journalistic stories and often unconventional Conservative opinion articles also dealing with everyday political events and what they might mean to each of us, while forever being centered upon traditional precepts.
If there are questions that seem to defy the standard group think model, we atypically, if not unabashedly, ask those questions.
In that vein, Eschatology, also referred to as apocalypticism, is defined by the Oxford Dictionary as "The theological sciences concerned with the four last things: death, judgment, heaven and hell," and which is exactly where our X-files type of extreme curiosity leads us within this particular project.

The Daniel Project​

These reasons, among many others, are why we found the documentary titled The Daniel Project (Facebook link) to be an astonishing work that should not be ignored by anyone, especially for those who still hold a belief that the truth is out there.
In America, with the changes wrought both for and by the government in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the subsequent 2008 financial meltdowns, and even the more recent attacks in Boston, a new societal paradigm has emerged largely predicated on a mass governmental breakdown of its historical function reaching mythic proportions.
This new paradigm now encompasses an America comprised of a significant number of citizens readying themselves in myriad ways, from Preppers who seek survival in a post-apocalyptic world to the "End of Days" believers who are dedicated to the proposition of a coming world tribulation period as laid down by biblical scriptures.
The political Left will often laugh at any such precepts offered by religion with a special emphasis on Protestantism and Catholicism, while the mainstream media will more often than not run stories designed to denigrate and debase these same belief systems, while upholding the murderous machinations of fundamentalist Islam. This, despite a US population that far more often than not holds a belief in a greater truth, or Judeo-Christian God of Goodness, to the tune of about 87%.
This alone, should speak volumes to those who hold a special type of understanding that many of the less spiritually inclined simply cannot fathom, or find stupid beyond belief, as the idiomatic case may be.
"Only the Wise Will Understand"
However, with the hundreds of predictions found throughout both the old and new testaments of the Bible, these prophecies in fact reveal an "astonishing panorama of future events" which appear to be, even now, coming true, like it or not. So, even if one might be a skeptic, non-believer, or even an Atheist, anyone who views the following predictions from ancient texts will tend to come away with an unsettled spirit if, indeed, they truly hold an open and critical mind.
But, there is that one other element as proclaimed by the biblical Prophet Daniel being "only the wise in the final generation would understand," and this is where we begin within the alarming precepts of the Daniel Project, while focusing on an entirely different type of politics altogether, for a change, which is but one more piece of the puzzle that we have constantly referred to at this site.
As we move through the precepts of the Daniel Project there are several things to note. As a writer and one unusually familiar with the prophetic texts in combination with world events, I have at times taken the liberty of lending my own research and knowledge within the ideas as presented by the Daniel Project in order to add an additional dimension. The results, while chilling, provide at least a foundation of understanding for those who are unfamiliar but may wish to learn more. Many regular readers may have also noted the additional time between what are normally once per week article additions to this website, however, this is due to the massive amount of additional research required to properly undertake this type of project.
So, behold, as they say, let's look at the evidence as presented by The Daniel Project thus far:

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Biblical Prediction #1 and #2-Jews will be exiled, scattered and persecuted throughout the world and then regathered
(Book of Deuteronomy ~ written 2,500 years ago)
To most people living in the western world and especially to western Christians, the extraordinary amount of hatred and cruelty historically lavished on the Jewish people is a thing that routinely inspires confusion. Why do they hate the Jews so? Throughout time and from ancient Egypt, the Russian Pogroms and, of course, Hitler's nearly successful attempt at Jewish Genocide to the tune of over 6 million dead, Jewish hatred has left many non-Jews and Jews alike often dazed and confused at how a people could engender so much hate. So, why is this?
Many believe that the answer can be found in Deuteronomy Chapter 12 in which God indicates that the Jews are God's chosen people and also where the verse goes on to exclaim that "whoever blesses the Jews will be blessed and whosoever curses the Jews will be cursed." When one begins to understand who, exactly, God's chief adversary is, one can also then understand why hatred of the Jews might be a foregone conclusion to this proliferation of hate--it makes sense. Indeed, a well-worn word was crafted for this very thing which we refer to as "anti-Semitism."
Not missing here is the fact that America, much like Israel, tends to be almost equally hated in much of the world, however there is one particularly stunning school of thought that deals with this phenomenon as well.
The main point being, however, that approximately 600 years prior to the event, it was foretold in the Bible that the Jews would be scattered and persecuted throughout the world--which has subsequently been proven true and is the Genesis of our story, which also includes the Jews regathering over 2,548 years later in Israel...an amazing thing unto itself and yet it was foretold six centuries in advance of the scattering and 2.5 millennia prior to the regathering.
Remarkable.
Biblical Prediction #3- Within the last days, the Jews will be returned to their homeland
(Book of Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)
Anyone who reads the story of how the United Nations, often now at odds with anything Semitic, helped to create a partition plan allowing the Israeli's to repatriate their homeland in 1947 and directly after World War II, might be astounded. Yet, as promised over 2,500 years ago, the Jews did eventually find their homeland after being scattered the world over, and resettled in Israel in the years following 1948 via UN mandate.
"It was predicted, and it happened" as The Daniel Project's Jacob Prasch will repeatedly assert throughout both this text and in the documentary.
The unsettling thing to remember, within the above heading, is the phrase "within the last days."


Biblical Prediction# 4-Israel will become the center of world tension
(Book of Zechariah ~ written 2,500 years ago)

It's a known fact that in modern times the Muslims and the Arab world at large have always held claim to the lands which Israel now owns and occupies. But does the Arab world, in fact, have a legitimate claim to the land? Do the Native Americans have sole right to all lands possessed by the US government and citizens? Should we, as Americans, just give the land back? That's ridiculous, most Americans would say, and they would be right in doing so.
The struggles for the land of Israel between Arabs, Israelis, Muslims and Jews have gone on almost endlessly throughout time. Indeed, whoever holds the land at any given time, it should be noted, is the one that holds clear rights to the land. Possession is 9/10ths of the law, as they say.
But as to the 4th prediction, can anyone doubt that Israel is not at the center of world tension in this modern day? When we view the history of this mideast region, these tensions are nothing new, in fact, wars of conquest have been repeatedly fought all the way back to 1,200 BCE with various Rulers taking and retaking and then losing the land that is now Israel throughout its entire history. It wasn't until the British retook the land from the Ottomans, in World War 1, who had in turn seized it from the Syrians about 500 years prior, that the modern-day return of the Israeli's to their homeland could be made possible. However, only after the heinous genocide of WW2 and once again under a UN mandate, did the Israeli's finally return to their homeland.
The fact that all of this was predicted by a man living 2,500 years in advance? Remarkable, once again. How could a Prophet who lived over 2,500 years ago possibly know this would happen and get it exactly right?


Biblical Prediction #5-The lost language of Hebrew will be restored to Israel, as with the shekel also, in the last days
(Book of Zephania, book of Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)

Language death or linguicide is an actual form of study in linguistics; however, the fascinating thing, for our purposes, is the fact that most instances of language death are rarely if ever reversible. Yet, as we are now learning, the Jewish people seem able to constantly find ways to bedevil prevailing conventions, and so it is with the Hebrew language.
Hebrew, as a commonly spoken tongue, died in the late antiquity period just before the middle ages. So, how did it come back? There is no singular answer to this question; however, experts place the comeback of the language in the time of the 19th century. The Jewish shekel, a form of currency, was also dead for over 1,900 years, and yet somehow found its way back into circulation in 1997.
The operative point here, and truly a goosebump-inspiring notation to be sure, is that the scripture in Ezekiel indicates that "in the last days both the shekel and the Hebrew language will be revived."
"It was predicted and it has happened.


Biblical Prediction# 6 and #7- In the last days, pools of water will appear in the deserts; Fruits, Forests, Vineyards and Olive Groves will arise from the dust
(Books of Isaiah and Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)

The desert that was Israel was barren of life for almost 2,000 years. So, how is it that what once was desert wasteland would later become a veritable Garden of Eden? Even better, how is it that for almost 2,500 years prior, these events would be prophesied in two books of the Bible? The several verses speaking to this eventuality speak of firs and the cypress growing in abundance, the earth being filled with fruit. What could not have been predicted was the vast increase in knowledge that has occurred in the last two millennium owing to the art and engineering of advanced irrigation and growing techniques.
Today, according to Wikipedia, Israel is a major exporter of fresh produce and a world leader in agricultural technologies, despite a landmass equivalent to the approximate size of New Jersey. Israel, unlike anywhere else in the largely arid Arab world, has become, in effect, an oasis in the desert.
"It was predicted and once again it happened."~ Jacob Prasch, Bible Expositor


Biblical Prediction #8-Man-made and natural disasters will increase in the End of Days
(Books of Matthew, Mark, and Acts ~ written appx. 1,960 years ago)

“For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and sedition; these are the beginning of the labor pains.”~Mark 13:7-8
The key here to remember is that throughout all of history both natural and man-made disasters have always occurred in a diversity of places and times. However, the four predictions indicated here, and resultantly the scriptures, specify an increase in both intensity and knowledge of these events.
The knowledge comes to us by way of a now highly interconnected international web and media, along with the natural increase in populations of areas which were only sparsely populated in times not far past.
These four major types of signs include:
Environmental- including natural disaster, famines and pestilence, hurricanes, tsunamis and quakes intensified and viraled by both the worldwide web and international media.
Wars and Rumors of Wars- Catastrophes that are man-made, specifically to include ethnic tensions between ethnic nations; civil wars, and governmental breakdowns will occur is a series of chained events.



Astronomical Signs-changes in the sun, meteors, comets and asteroids will all be increasingly visible.
Moral Collapse-Churches, governments and even society itself will exercise moral relativism unlike any other time in modern history.
Just in this sense alone, we can see a convergence of each of these types of events all seemingly occurring with both an increased intensity and frequency. But are we seeing the worst of this convergence now or are there even more horrible events yet to come?


Biblical Prediction#9-Lawlessness, Moral Collapse and Social Breakdown
(Book of Timothy ~ written 1,950 years ago)

As the Arab Spring has either toppled or is toppling empire after Mideast empire, while Islamic Sharia law takes a firm hold on the lands of the Mideast, we have already seen a panoply of Christian persecutions taking place. Christian crucifixions, rapes and even beheadings are at an all-time high in modern history, and this, just in the last five years. In addition, for the first time in US history, the sitting leader of the Free World was declared the "First Gay US President" by a leading media magazine.

"Perilous times shall come - Times of danger, of persecution, and of trial."

Meanwhile, western society is said to have become "post-Christian and neo-pagan," says Jacob Prasch, which speaks to a prophetic series of cultural breakdowns unparalleled in modern times, but also, within the Christian Church.
"It was predicted, and it is happening now."
Who, in truth, would have thought even only a score of years ago, that published government manuals of today speak to published warnings of the dangers of so-called Christian extremism and phantom Right-Wing terrorism, which in those days would have been so unthinkable as to leave any administration backing such precepts politically stranded if not completely ruined.
Yet, it is happening right now and right here in an America, with these same very belief systems that actually built America. Now, Christianity and Judaism are often being held out as both archaic and even reprehensible, in far too many circles. While those things which oppose Judeo-Christian Values are held up as shining examples of both multi-culturalism, acceptance and Progress.

Biblical Prediction#10-Christian Apostasy, Mass Spiritual Delusion, and a Great Leader​

(Book of 2nd Timothy ~ written 1,950 years ago)

While an increasingly large number of Churches have, in the recent past, fallen under what many might term the slippery slope of feel-good religions, the number of individuals who have fallen victim to certain groups which they thought were Protestant only to later learn rather painfully that they were not. Financial con artists and certian so-called Christian Televangelists have turned the Church into a laughing-stock of greedy caricatures, while unabashedly begging for money, and sometimes even much worse.
These groups, while always present in one form or another, have in the modern day reached what could be described as a plague of delusions built largely for financial gain to the proprietor. The Bible refers to this period as "The Great Apostasy" or departure from the truth. According to Jacob Prasch, this is associated with "The man of lawlessness," also a metaphor for the anti-Christ, who God will allow to deceive many of those whom are in search of a new Messiah.
"As the world strains under the weight of humanitarian issues, mankind will desperately seek a new leader, a savior."~Jacob Prasch


Biblical Prediction # 11- A Great Leader to Bring Peace Within A New World Order- and biblical prediction# 12-Resulting in one-world government, a forced financial system, state control
(Book of Revelation~written 1,900 years ago)

The words "A new world order" have been repeated more and more often in the last two decades by political leaders more than any other time in US history. Although author H.G. Wells seemed to first write of such an order in his book of essentially the same name written in 1940 which expounded largely on the wonders of Socialism, George H.W. Bush was the first to use the actual term in a speech in late 1990.



So, how does this tie in with biblical prophecy? Many biblical scholars believe that several Revelation references to "One World Government" dovetail perfectly with the meaning behind the words "new world order" that can be found in Revelation chapter 13: 7, which states:


"The beast was permitted to go to war against the saints and conquer them. He was given ruling authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation"

Biblical experts further believe that the United Nations will be the organization at the heart of such power. An increasing loss of confidence in the world's leading financial systems and then the various national economies faltering will cause the rise of a single world financial system. According to Jacob Prasch, this, coupled with a grand convergence of natural calamities and the terror that ensues will cause many individuals to seek security and leadership from both a political and religious leader who claims to have the answers to virtually everything "and they'll get one."
Prasch notes that this is the man that the scriptures refer to as "the man of sin" or the "anti-Christ" who will act as a sort of "redeemer figure." This individual will be able to bring together all of the world's faiths via a political agenda and a "corrupted world religious system." Many, in addition, believe that the country which has the greatest capacity to produce such a figure is America, however, this is not necessarily a given, all belying evidence to the contrary.
The problem with the advent of such an individual deemed as a one-world government leader will be the loss of liberties and democracy throughout the world, as the resultant absolute power of such a central goverment over national-regional governments will cause absolute corruption. This is where unconstrained tyranny will take over and man will once again be at the mercy of his own singular government creation, the world over.
Who or what could stand against such a power?
Here also is where a forced financial system, after numerous currency failures, and the much talked about "mark of the Beast" will be set upon each world citizen either in their right hand or forehead. This mark would seem to represent a new financial system or currency which is embedded or marked upon each person in order to buy or trade--which could now be achieved through existing digital micro-technology.


The scriptures further indicate that anyone who does not receive such a mark will be executed.


But then, how could a veritable primitive who lived almost two thousand years ago predict such a thing that appears relatively easily achieved in this modern day?


Biblical Prediction# 13- A Peace Treaty signed yet a military coalition strikes Israel, Tribulation ensues
(Prophet Daniel and the Book of Revelation ~ written over 1,900 years ago)

At this point in human history, the last seven years of the age will have been reached which some refer to as the Tribulation period. The long sought after and all-encompassing peace treaty between Israel and other Middle East states will finally be signed at the beginning of this final seven years.
However, the anti-Christ who initially presented himself as a man of peace and who inaugurated the agreement with Israel will break the peace agreement mid-way through this final seven years. Also, at this time, the Prophet Daniel states that the ancient nation of Persia, which is now modern-day Iran, will rise up against Israel and war will ensue.
Here, it would be prudent to point out, that the Islamic nation of Iran's religious government leaders, not to mention millions of Muslims everywhere, believe in what is known as the 12th Imam or Mahdi who will come back to rule the nations at the end of time. In the prophetic texts of the Koran, this fearful leader will seek to wipe out the nation of Israel and its supporters while heralding a new age. Indeed, many religious leaders within the Islamic faith, including the theocratic leaders of Iran, believe that chaos is the only thing that will hasten the "Hidden Imam's" return which is what the religious Islamic nation of Iran seems often enough to be hedging its national health upon.
However, it's not just the nation of Iran, but rather the entire Islamic fundamentalist world which often seems intent in forcing its belief systems and law on the nations. Many believe that the Arab spring movement may be the final precurser to an Islamic Caliphate, a confederation of Islamic States which many Islamists are even now touting.
Could this powerful Caliphate eventually come to be the embodiment of the anti-Christ so talked about in Revelation?

The chaos of war, these Islamic fundamentalist leaders believe, will hasten the 12th Imam's return which could be why Iran often appears to be desperately seeking a nuclear weapon, and at any cost, in order to spark the return of the 12th Imam and initiate a nuclear exchange with Israel. According to Jacob Prasch, "we are told by Ezekiel that Russia, Turkey and the nations of Soviet central Asia will come into some type of military confederation with Iran to invade Israel" but this attack will fail due to a type of divine intervention which will impart natural disasters ostensibly as the attack takes place.
Interesting that these particular alliances only seemed possible in just the last five years....and they were foretold over 2,500 years ago.


Biblical Predictions #14, #15 , #16 & #17-~Physical Signs~The Return, an earthquake which splits The Mount of Olives, water flowing beneath Jerusalem, the Rebuilding of the Jewish Temple and the East gate remains sealed
(Books of Zechariah & Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)

"And his feet shall stand in that day on the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall split in the middle thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south."~Zech.14:4


The Fissure

With modern technology, we know already that a tectonic fissure exists which runs along the center of the Mount of Olives. According to scriptures, the Messiah's return will herald a great earthquake which both splits and moves the Mountain of ancient history apart. This will also cause fresh water to flow from underneath the Mount and towards the Dead Sea changing the entire environment. In addition to this, we also know of the fresh streams of waters as verified by archeologists indeed flowing underneath both the city of Jerusalem and the Mount of Olives.
But, how could an ancient prophet of over 2,500 years ago known of this tectonic fissure and a subterranean aquifer in the middle of what was a desert? Even better? The Biblical prediction that the Dead Sea will teem with sea life after this event unfolds.
According to Jacob Prasch, the Prophet Isaiah foretells that the Messiah Jesus' return will originate at the ancient city of Petra in Jordan, but will culminate in his descending down upon the Mount of Olives making all of these astounding events take place, sequentially.


The Temple

Apocalypticists have long known and have established as a sort of bookmark in time marking the end days, that according to biblical prophecy, the event to watch closely for is the rebuilding of the Great Temple in Jerusalem. Remarkably, the cornerstone of this soon to be rebuilt Temple, weighing 13 tons was presented to the world on May 21st, 2009. The Temple Institute, which is a Levitical organization dedicated to the new Temple's construction, has recently expanded its visitor's center three-fold and continues to gather artifacts to be housed in the new temple.
All the pieces appear to be in place, but can and will it happen?




The East Gate

The golden gate, as it was also called, holds several deeply religious meanings for the Jews, which is largely why the gate was sealed back in the 1500's by Ottoman conqueror Suleiman the Magnificent. Suleiman also placed a cemetery in front of the gate in order to keep Jewish Holy Priests from being able to enter or exit through the gate, as their entering a cemetery is ostensibly not allowed , which is part of the reason for Suleiman's tactics.
The remarkable thing here is that, once again, the sealing of the gate and the fact that the continuance of this condition was predicted almost 2,000 years before the fact and continues to this day.


Biblical Prediction # 18~ The Kings of the East cross the Euphrates River for a great war
(Books of Ezekiel & Revelation ~ written 2,500 & 1,900 years ago respectively)

I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 31 ~The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.~Joel 2:30-31

The Bible foretells in Revelation that the kings of the East, who many believe is the nation of China and or Russia along with her ancillary nations, will cross the Euphrates in an invasion of the Mideast and in preparation for war against Israel and perhaps Israel's western allies.
The scriptures, in anticipation of this event, speak to the "angels bound at the River Euphrates" to lead 2oo million men in battle. The remarkable thing here is the fact that going back through ancient history, at no time was there ever a population capable of producing, arming, and supporting such a massive army of men. Yet, in modern day, the Chinese army currently lists an active duty capacity of about 318 million men fit for military service, which is about the size of the currrent US population, if we include illegals.
Interestingly, and at the time of this prophecy of over 1,900 years ago, the population of planet Earth has been estimated at about 100 million people. So, how could an ancient prophet understand that the Earth would be heavily populated [enough] to support this massive of an army?



According to Jacob Prasch, The Ataturk dam in Turkey which could block or restrict the flow of the river southward allowing such a massive army's passage possible. Ataturk Dam lies just off the border of Syria. This possible drying up or stoppage of the Euphrates would also cause crop failures and incredible starvation In Iraq. Prasch further indicates that according to the scriptures, this will cause one of the worst holocausts of all time.
But the Kings of the East will be gathering for a singular reason.....


Biblical Prediction#19~Armegeddon, the war to end all wars
(Books of Revelation, Matthew, Jeremiah, and Zechariah-each written over 1,900 years ago)

Yet another interesting note, this final war to end all wars appears to be in no less than 4 scriptural texts and perhaps even more:
For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again. 22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.~Matthew 24:21-22

So which countries might find themselves in such a terrible coalition?
Interestingly, we have already stated such a military confederation, in fact. In the 13th prediction Ezekiel states that "Russia, Turkey and the nations of central Asia will come into some type of military confederation with Iran to invade Israel." The scriptures seem to further allude to weaponry akin to nuclear technology. We further know that the eastern powers of North Korea, possibly Iran, China, Russia and Pakistan each has an arsenal of nuclear weaponry.
So, are the pieces of the puzzle now ready to be engaged?

Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.~Revelation 16:16

Armageddon mentioned here has long been a subject of considerable biblical discussion. The Valley of Megiddo does exist in modern times and is a plain located in Israel that has seen several ancient historical battles. However also, the scriptures clearly indicate that without divine intercession, "man's days would be numbered." a chilling thought when prefaced by the fact that these words were, once again, written at a time when nuclear technology was not even an idea.

And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.~Jeremiah 24:33

So, who will oppose these forces from the East and stand with Israel?
It seems clear that Israel and the US will probably be standing together in these end times, especially if we take into account the fact that "the dead will lie from one end of the world unto the other"--only the US arsenal seems capable of countering the combined might of Russian and China in a nuclear exchange. But why would these countries align themselves against Israel and America? When we take into account the fact that Israel seems hated the world over and combine this with the fact that the US over the last five years, has been seen by most countries as a weakening super-power--even unto its own leadership, then we can see how this scenario might, indeed, be possible.
Remember that Iran is a nation which is allied with both Russia and China, while also remembering that the Chinese-Russo alliance was only established very recently in history. But, will Israeli aggression against Iran's nuclear aims cause these forces to gather? Or will an Iranian ballistic missile attack on Israel and an Israeli-American response be the keystone in this prophetic event?

And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples that wage war against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.~Zechariah 14:12

If Israel saw a force of over 200 million men marching on it, what other avenue of defense other than nuclear technology, might be available? Israel's population alone is only about 8 million people. Now, does this prophecy sound either so absurd or patently impossible?


Biblical Prediction # 20~ Only the wise will understand and escape
(Prophet Daniel~written over 2,100 years ago)

According to Jacon Prasch, the Prophet Daniel indicates that the scriptures clearly state that only the wise will understand these prophecies, which to many, must seem glaringly accurate especially at this point in history. However, Prasch further notes that Daniel also makes it known that "The Wicked" will not understand. Prasch also postulates that according to both Daniel and Jesus, there will be a way to escape this particular hell on earth scenario.
So there you have it, the terrifyingly realistic prophecies as evidenced by The Daniel Project, which also states that since this work was published, even more signs have occurred which fall into line in support of these prophetic texts.



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Conclusions​

Jeremy Hitchen does a masterful job in presenting the movie as a skeptic. Bible Expositor,Jacob Prasch, also presents a stunning panoply of knowledge in describing the events as they unfold, but also as one who originally sought to scientifically disprove the Bible, earlier on in his career.
In putting this article together my very able and extraordinarily educated editor and producer, who has not been formally submerged with the prophetic texts of the Bible, and as a former college academian, has come away with a feeling of being absolutely blown away by what she has both seen and heard, especially with how ancient biblical texts written over two millennia ago can be so stunningly accurate now, in the modern day.
She was truly frightened as the prophecies came together.
However, we must add that this particular article is only an expansive summary of what is contained visually within the movie of the same name titled, "The Daniel Project." If you would like to see these texts brought to life, we would urge you to see the movie for yourself and make your own decisions and conclusions.

"About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the Prophecies,and insist on their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition."
~Sir Isaac Newton, Mathematician and the father of modern science
Author's note:
Since our review of the Daniel Project and after adding multiple links to find their website, overall web traffic to their site has surged by over 200,000 ranking positions internationally, and over 100,000 ranking positions in the US. An increase of over one-third in the US alone, according to webdata traffic services.
No other site has featured or reviewed their data.
Where to findThe Daniel Project

 

The Mark of The Beast Decoded: Who is the Anti-Christ? --- Project Daniel!​

The following two essays are from a fundamentalist neo-Christian website and so incorporate agenda biased information.
As its general address of the 'Antichrist' memeplex is however rather articulated and analytically sound with respect to the ET-Logos agenda; the Thuban Council feels it appropriate to share this information base regarding the 'antichrist- anti-Logos' thoughtform and human created memeplex here in those two posts.
In other words, those two articles represent a correct and valid interpretation as to the issues and topics addressed, should this criteria engage the historical and human-centred or anthropomorphic context and inclusive of a anthropomorphic 'God-AntiGod' and its related' Christ-Antichrist' context and worldview and cosmogony (creation science/intelligent design/mythos).

Anyone even a little familiar with the Thuban Logos agenda, would know as to what parts of those two essays are in 'cosmic dragon alignment' and which parts are not.

Shiloh, July 1st to 2nd, 2015 as the Mirror of the Sea of the Apocalyptic beast exposed and risen!

The Mark of The Beast Decoded: Who is the Anti-Christ?

Posted by: Barry
Published on March 31st, 2015 @ 08:16:00 pm , using 2475 words,
Posted in Opinion

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Conservative Refocus
By Barry Secrest

It has been a question and the subject of numerous books, movies, news articles and even a religious field of inquiry (eschatology) for over two millennia; what is the 'mark of the beast' and who is the 'Anti-Christ?'
Evangelists and Priests the world over have been both preaching and teaching on the subject for well over a millennium. Cults have been founded and ended over the question, along with false witnesses conveying a snake-oil salesman-like approach in order to profit lavishly from the question.
But no matter "who" or "what" one might singularly approach for an answer to the question, there will always be hundreds of diverging opinions, via voice and or print, in expert disagreement.
So, is there at least something of a definitive answer, today, concerning the mark of the beast?

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Signs

While watching the signs closely over the years and engaging in numerous studies to at least understand the vagaries surrounding the question of the anti-Christ, it has always been difficult to assimilate at least something of a conclusion to this chilling question--that is--until the events of 9/11/2001 transpired.
On that particular day, which will live in infamy in America and something akin to glory across the Mideast, the question began to boldly answer itself. The enemy of the largest Christian nation on the planet had finally made its intent known, and that enemy holds in contempt virtually everything America holds dear.
But is radical Islam and its multitude of followers the legion of the anti-Christ prophesied in the Bible? To be certain, there are numerous other factions and faiths that have been outwardly anti-Christian, throughout history. However, Islam with its brutal dictates grounded in both Shariah and numerous passages of the Quran seeded towards brutal violence, seems to possess a singular brand of enmity unparalleled with regard to all things Judeo-Christian.
The United States has always embodied a large number of reasons to be hated by Islam, present leadership excepted, not the least of which being the fact that the US holds as one of its closest and most steadfast allies, the nation of Israel, as a singularly devout arch-enemy to its most ancient of foes.
Ultimately, we may now finally hold the knowledge to unlock what the Holy Bible foretold, well over two thousand years ago. Indeed, unlike most of America's historical enemies, this enemy is wholly different, and across numerous ideological fronts.


The Two Testaments

The tenets of radical Islam are devolved from an ancient political belief system which holds as its central element the death of those who do not believe as they do. Their natural foe is primarily comprised of two groups associated with two ancient Biblical Testaments. The Old Testament, which includes the Torah, is comprised largely of the first group of believers known as the Jews, while the New Testament is comprised of the 2nd group of "new covenant" believers known as Christians.
The two nations which primarily adhere, obviously enough, to these two ancient Testaments of the Holy Bible are Israel and the United States. While Europe still tenuously holds to these two belief systems to various degrees, they do so at a lesser and lesser rate. Meanwhile Paganism, Atheism, and New Age cultism are increasingly gaining in numbers of followership, unparalleled in modern times.
While a vast number of journalists, pundits, and bedeviled politico's, seem still to devote much of their time in trying to ascertain the question of why radical Islam hates both the US and Israel with such depth and intensity, they do so only because they invariably ignore the lessons of ancient history and these ancient religions, taken as a whole.
But then, even with the most obvious of historical elements between Judaism and Islam, there is in fact an even deeper form of enmity between these two adversaries and this element involves not only religion, but also race. In this instance, both the Quran and the Old Testament speak to the history between Isaac and Ishmael, as the offspring of Abraham, born in the year 1813 B.C. E., who is considered to be the father of the Jewish nation.
Abraham was, in fact, a 10th-generation descendant of Noah, and was born of the line from Noah's son, Shem.


Origins

When Sarah, Abraham's wife who was considered as one of the most beautiful women of that age, grew distraught over the fact that she couldn't conceive a child for Abraham, she insisted that Abraham take her handmaiden, Hagar a Princess and daughter of the Egyptian Pharaoh, as wife in order to conceive an offspring. Hagar soon gave birth to Ishmael, as Abraham's firstborn. It was only a few years later and in old-age that Sarah would eventually give birth to Isaac, who would become the father of the nation of Israel-- much as Ishmael would eventually become father to the Arab nations. However, enmity soon developed between Sarah and Hagar when Ishmael, then a teenager, was discovered by Sarah to be mocking her son, Isaac.
As a result of this enmity, Sarah urged Abraham to expel Hagar and Ishmael from their company, and Abraham sent the mother and son away into the wilderness, with the approval of the Lord. Many believe that it was here that the enmity between the Arabs and the Jews was incepted, and nothing has seemingly changed since that time.
The Bible further states, as an extreme point of reference, that Abraham's firstborn son Ishmael, would "be a wild donkey of a man, in that his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."
This particular prophecy in no way can be disallowed in the modern-day, as terrorism worldwide has taken on an almost supernatural vehemence in its brutal nature.
Despite Islam's being often described as an ancient "Abrahamic faith," the Arab and Mideast nations, in eschewing the true God of Abraham and the Torah, would eventually adopt a number of pagan Gods to worship from ancient times.
One of these deities was an ancient desert Moon God known as 'Sin' or 'Suen.' Many biblical experts state that the modern Islamic Deity was eventually transformed from this ancient Arab Pagan deity, by Mohammed. The crescent moon which can be seen on most Islamic flags and other representatively-styled banners could be considered as a strong indication of this fact.

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Moreover, it was only when Islam was firmly established as a religion in about 600 AD that the Arab Pagan Moon God under Islam's prophet was re-established into what the Islamic world would name as Allah. This is also why numerous efforts have been only marginally successful at trying to establish Islam's "Allah" and the Judeo-Christian "God of Abraham," as one in the same. Nothing could, in fact, be further from the truth, once the origins are firmly established from ancient history.
Indeed, the Quran, which was written in 610 AD, borrows heavily from the Torah, written almost 2,000 years earlier in 1312 B.C.E. Not to mention other ancient Jewish texts, which to some degree account for the Quran's inclusion as an Abrahamic faith, lent credibility only by its heavily borrowed manuscript.

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But, all history aside, with 1.2 Billion adherents across the world, Islam as the foundation of the recurrent problem that is modern-day radical Islam, presents to us an essential quandary which is confounded by any conventional problem-solving techniques.
There is, in effect, no diplomatic solution for those who see unbelievers of their cult of an ancient desert Moon-God, as deserving of nothing other than complete annihilation, and it is here where the seeds of the Anti-Christ, are sewn, and in full measure.
Now, we have new evidence which many find well beyond compelling, regarding this ancient mystery, as the world slowly erupts into chaos.

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The Anti-Christ

In our efforts to understand the origins of the anti-Christ as it's applied to Islam, the New Testament book of Revelation gives us the initial clue. In verse 13:18 the verse states " Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

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This numeral, given as 666 has become commonly referred to as "The Mark of the Beast," but what does this number refer to, exactly? It is commonly accepted that the apostle John wrote the book of Revelation, as an exile on the Isle of Patmos, and as a vision from God. So, in effect, John saw a vision of these numbers as denoting the rise of the beast, and this would be the mark of that beast.
John's vision, as written, was later transcribed by the Greeks, as the characters "Chi Xi Stigma" in representation of the original text of the vision, which John saw.

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As indicated, these numerals have long been a subject of conjecture and theory, a puzzling enigma, at least perhaps until now. Indeed, earlier interpretations of these numbers contained ambiguities. which seemed to defy explanation.
But, were these ambiguities initially conceived due to John's vision of exactly what he saw?
If we look at another symbol widely seen throughout the world in the modern day, we will notice similarities between the Greek representation and the below characters that are extraordinarily difficult to deny.
The characters pictured below represent the Arabic phrase "bismillah" followed by two crossed swords, in noting that Arabic, like Judaism, is read from the right to the left.
Bismillah, when translated, means, "In the name of Allah."

Notice the extraordinary similarities between the Greek "666" and the Arabic symbols "Bismillah."
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When the symbols are laid out completely aligned, the similarities between the two symbolic configurations are well beyond stunning, in what they seem to portend.
What this line of reasoning suggests becomes evident, that John may have been writing exactly what he saw in the Arabic symbols, rather than the numerals 666.
This compelling evidence may further indicate why this particular revelation is now taking the Biblical world by storm. The YouTube video logically asks the question concerning the Lord's revelation to John:
"Would the Lord ask us to use wisdom and insight to identify the beast, and then give us a virtually unsolvable puzzle?"
Why would God, who taught against the occult practice of numerology, ask followers to use numerology to ascertain who the beast of the Anti-Christ, actually is? Or, would the characters of the text speak to an exact visual representation of what John actually saw, in his vision?

The video goes on to point out that the Creator does actively conceal knowledge until such time as the unveiling is appropriate. But even further is the fact that the Bible states that the "Mark of the Beast will cause all to receive a mark on their right hand or in their foreheads." (Rev. 13:16)

It is a common practice in fundamentalist Islam, for its practitioners to wear these badges or shields on their forehead or on their right arm, or both.



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Within all of this relatively new information concerning Islam and 'the mark of the beast,' this revelation fittingly came to us from none other than a former Muslim, who just so happened to notice the remarkable resemblance between the Arabic symbols of "Bismillah, he had seen many times before his conversion, alongside the Greek letters written down in the book of Revelation, by John.

The video makes one other rather remarkable point that cannot be escaped with regard to the use of the Greek translation in its full context as it regards Islam and the mark of the beast.
Concerning the verse in Revelation ( 13: 18) at the heart of this enlightening piece of the puzzle, is the fact that if we once again look at the passage from the King James Bible, we read the following:

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

"The word count (from the Greek psephizo) in this verse may also be translated as reckon or decide. The word number (from the Greek arithmos) may also refer to a multitude (as in peoples or nations)"
So, if we use contextual wording in the verse as translated from the original greek passage, the verse would read as follows:

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding reckon the multitude of the beast: for it is the multitude of a man; and his multitude is in the name of Allah"
While no one can be certain of these findings and there will probably remain a great many individuals who might disagree with these interpretations, there can be little doubt that of all the various theories and suppositions which have evolved from this mystery of mysteries, for almost two thousand years, this theory interlocks quite remarkably with what we've seen unfolding in the Mideast, since Israel became a nation again in 1948.

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In an earlier article from 2012, titled "The Daniel Project", we detailed many of the prophetical events and signs which have come true over the last 100 years, for the most part. With regard to the Beast. In our earlier article, we noted what the Bible states concerning the Beast, in this specific passage:

"And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." (Rev. 13: 7)

But, there is even one additional inclusion which might be operative with regard to Islam, the beast, and the anti-Christ. We had earlier noted the fact that a number of experts believe that the ancient desert moon-God of the Arabs had been eventually morphed into the deity which eventually became known as Allah, by Mohammed. This ancient moon-God's name was "Sin" or "Suen."

There is one passage within the Book of 2 Thessalonians 2:3, which states the following:
"let no man beguile you in any wise: for `it will not be,' except the falling away come first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."

Could this verse, which seems to describe the anti-Christ identity as "man of sin" be offering up yet another cryptic clue as to the origins of the anti-Christ with a solid link to this ancient Arab moon-God, Sin or Suen?
Many individuals believe that the New World Order under the auspices of the United Nations will help to bring about the horrific changes, as stated in these verses, into reality. Now, we may have several other pieces of the puzzle that clarifies and defines what is currently happening, and which easily belongs in the realm of the unthinkable.

"About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the Prophecies,and insist on their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition."
~Sir Isaac Newton, Mathematician and the father of modern science


*Special thanks to Rich Holland for providing access to the video

http://conservativerefocus.com/blog...k-of-the-beast-decoded-who-is-the-anti-christ

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Shiloh Za-RaH

 

Signs: The Apocalyptic Vision of The Daniel Project​

The following two essays are from a 'conservative' fundamentalist neo-Christian (associated) website and so incorporate agenda biased information.
As its general address of the 'Antichrist' memeplex is however rather articulated and analytically sound with respect to the ET-Logos agenda; the Thuban Council feels it appropriate to share this information base regarding the 'antichrist- anti-Logos' thoughtform and human created memeplex here in those two posts.
In other words, those two articles represent a correct and valid interpretation as to the issues and topics addressed, should this criteria engage the historical and human-centred or anthropomorphic context and inclusive of a anthropomorphic 'God-AntiGod' and its related' Christ-Antichrist' context and worldview and cosmogony (creation science/intelligent design/mythos).

Anyone even a little familiar with the Thuban Logos agenda, would know as to what parts of those two essays are in 'cosmic dragon alignment' and which parts are not.

Shiloh, July 1st to 2nd, 2015 as the Mirror of the Sea of the Apocalyptic beast exposed and risen!

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Signs: The Apocalyptic Vision of The Daniel Project
Posted by: Barry
Published on April 25th, 2013 @ 07:59:00 pm , using 5814 words,
Posted in Opinion

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Conservative Refocus Reports
By Barry Secrest

What is it that is now happening to both America and our world?

Our formerly impregnable walls of security have now been breached twice, in a major way, leading to both death and destruction not only to our own people, but also in many ways to our way of life.
Things have been changing quite dramatically in only the last score of years and to such a degree that billions are increasingly searching for answers and the truth, but more often than not, in all the wrong places. But, what if those answers that we so desperately are seeking have always been easily available to us, if we were to but travel all the way back to our roots, as a nation?
It has been true since the beginning of recorded history and even beyond that. In the earliest days of human history, glyphs and mysterious symbols have been etched into the timeless permanency of stone by ancient man. From massive markings often miles in formation made on earth's many plains only to be seen from strikingly unattainable altitudes, to ruins of ancient mystical origin frequently difficult to trace or even decode for modern man.

Humankind has always tried to divine either meaning or portent from past events to include prophetic texts, especially as they might approach future events delving often into the wholly archaic, in many cases. For instance, Astrology, the use of stars to foretell man's comings and goings, is an ancient system obviously still in use, which fuels millions of internet searches daily, and which can generally be found in most morning papers. What many left-stream editors probably fail to understand is that ancient mythology holds that the Archangel Michael was the divine being responsible for delivering the precepts of astrology to man.


The Gathering Storm

In that particular vein and on this site, stretching over the years, we have delved into a number of questions that have bedeviled any sort of rational explanation along with a rather startling amount of apostasies that have plagued both America and the world as a whole. From Earthquakes that sparked conspiracy theories of underground nuclear blasts on the US East Coast or para-Presidential security agents who seemed to visually morph into something else altogether unworldly, to even seeming governmentally involved False-Flag operations which habitually confound the mainstream media to even glance momentarily in a different direction, despite certain evidences to the contrary lying clearly all about.
Meanwhile Peppered in between these articles which seek to question, visitors will find journalistic stories and often unconventional Conservative opinion articles also dealing with everyday political events and what they might mean to each of us, while forever being centered upon traditional precepts.
If there are questions that seem to defy the standard group think model, we atypically, if not unabashedly, ask those questions.
In that vein, Eschatology, also referred to as apocalypticism, is defined by the Oxford Dictionary as "The theological sciences concerned with the four last things: death, judgment, heaven and hell," and which is exactly where our X-files type of extreme curiosity leads us within this particular project.

The Daniel Project

These reasons, among many others, are why we found the documentary titled The Daniel Project (Facebook link) to be an astonishing work that should not be ignored by anyone, especially for those who still hold a belief that the truth is out there.
In America, with the changes wrought both for and by the government in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the subsequent 2008 financial meltdowns, and even the more recent attacks in Boston, a new societal paradigm has emerged largely predicated on a mass governmental breakdown of its historical function reaching mythic proportions.
This new paradigm now encompasses an America comprised of a significant number of citizens readying themselves in myriad ways, from Preppers who seek survival in a post-apocalyptic world to the "End of Days" believers who are dedicated to the proposition of a coming world tribulation period as laid down by biblical scriptures.
The political Left will often laugh at any such precepts offered by religion with a special emphasis on Protestantism and Catholicism, while the mainstream media will more often than not run stories designed to denigrate and debase these same belief systems, while upholding the murderous machinations of fundamentalist Islam. This, despite a US population that far more often than not holds a belief in a greater truth, or Judeo-Christian God of Goodness, to the tune of about 87%.
This alone, should speak volumes to those who hold a special type of understanding that many of the less spiritually inclined simply cannot fathom, or find stupid beyond belief, as the idiomatic case may be.


"Only the Wise Will Understand"

However, with the hundreds of predictions found throughout both the old and new testaments of the Bible, these prophecies in fact reveal an "astonishing panorama of future events" which appear to be, even now, coming true, like it or not. So, even if one might be a skeptic, non-believer, or even an Atheist, anyone who views the following predictions from ancient texts will tend to come away with an unsettled spirit if, indeed, they truly hold an open and critical mind.
But, there is that one other element as proclaimed by the biblical Prophet Daniel being "only the wise in the final generation would understand," and this is where we begin within the alarming precepts of the Daniel Project, while focusing on an entirely different type of politics altogether, for a change, which is but one more piece of the puzzle that we have constantly referred to at this site.
As we move through the precepts of the Daniel Project there are several things to note. As a writer and one unusually familiar with the prophetic texts in combination with world events, I have at times taken the liberty of lending my own research and knowledge within the ideas as presented by the Daniel Project in order to add an additional dimension. The results, while chilling, provide at least a foundation of understanding for those who are unfamiliar but may wish to learn more. Many regular readers may have also noted the additional time between what are normally once per week article additions to this website, however, this is due to the massive amount of additional research required to properly undertake this type of project.
So, behold, as they say, let's look at the evidence as presented by The Daniel Project thus far:

Biblical Prediction #1 and #2-Jews will be exiled, scattered and persecuted throughout the world and then regathered
(Book of Deuteronomy ~ written 2,500 years ago)

To most people living in the western world and especially to western Christians, the extraordinary amount of hatred and cruelty historically lavished on the Jewish people is a thing that routinely inspires confusion. Why do they hate the Jews so? Throughout time and from ancient Egypt, the Russian Pogroms and, of course, Hitler's nearly successful attempt at Jewish Genocide to the tune of over 6 million dead, Jewish hatred has left many non-Jews and Jews alike often dazed and confused at how a people could engender so much hate. So, why is this?
Many believe that the answer can be found in Deuteronomy Chapter 12 in which God indicates that the Jews are God's chosen people and also where the verse goes on to exclaim that "whoever blesses the Jews will be blessed and whosoever curses the Jews will be cursed." When one begins to understand who, exactly, God's chief adversary is, one can also then understand why hatred of the Jews might be a foregone conclusion to this proliferation of hate--it makes sense. Indeed, a well-worn word was crafted for this very thing which we refer to as "anti-Semitism."
Not missing here is the fact that America, much like Israel, tends to be almost equally hated in much of the world, however there is one particularly stunning school of thought that deals with this phenomenon as well.

The main point being, however, that approximately 600 years prior to the event, it was foretold in the Bible that the Jews would be scattered and persecuted throughout the world--which has subsequently been proven true and is the Genesis of our story, which also includes the Jews regathering over 2,548 years later in Israel...an amazing thing unto itself and yet it was foretold six centuries in advance of the scattering and 2.5 millennia prior to the regathering.
Remarkable.


Biblical Prediction #3- Within the last days, the Jews will be returned to their homeland
(Book of Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)

Anyone who reads the story of how the United Nations, often now at odds with anything Semitic, helped to create a partition plan allowing the Israeli's to repatriate their homeland in 1947 and directly after World War II, might be astounded. Yet, as promised over 2,500 years ago, the Jews did eventually find their homeland after being scattered the world over, and resettled in Israel in the years following 1948 via UN mandate.
"It was predicted, and it happened" as The Daniel Project's Jacob Prasch will repeatedly assert throughout both this text and in the documentary.
The unsettling thing to remember, within the above heading, is the phrase "within the last days."


Biblical Prediction# 4-Israel will become the center of world tension
(Book of Zechariah ~ written 2,500 years ago)

It's a known fact that in modern times the Muslims and the Arab world at large have always held claim to the lands which Israel now owns and occupies. But does the Arab world, in fact, have a legitimate claim to the land? Do the Native Americans have sole right to all lands possessed by the US government and citizens? Should we, as Americans, just give the land back? That's ridiculous, most Americans would say, and they would be right in doing so.
The struggles for the land of Israel between Arabs, Israelis, Muslims and Jews have gone on almost endlessly throughout time. Indeed, whoever holds the land at any given time, it should be noted, is the one that holds clear rights to the land. Possession is 9/10ths of the law, as they say.
But as to the 4th prediction, can anyone doubt that Israel is not at the center of world tension in this modern day? When we view the history of this mideast region, these tensions are nothing new, in fact, wars of conquest have been repeatedly fought all the way back to 1,200 BCE with various Rulers taking and retaking and then losing the land that is now Israel throughout its entire history. It wasn't until the British retook the land from the Ottomans, in World War 1, who had in turn seized it from the Syrians about 500 years prior, that the modern-day return of the Israeli's to their homeland could be made possible. However, only after the heinous genocide of WW2 and once again under a UN mandate, did the Israeli's finally return to their homeland.
The fact that all of this was predicted by a man living 2,500 years in advance? Remarkable, once again. How could a Prophet who lived over 2,500 years ago possibly know this would happen and get it exactly right?


Biblical Prediction #5-The lost language of Hebrew will be restored to Israel, as with the shekel also, in the last days
(Book of Zephania, book of Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)

Language death or linguicide is an actual form of study in linguistics; however, the fascinating thing, for our purposes, is the fact that most instances of language death are rarely if ever reversible. Yet, as we are now learning, the Jewish people seem able to constantly find ways to bedevil prevailing conventions, and so it is with the Hebrew language.
Hebrew, as a commonly spoken tongue, died in the late antiquity period just before the middle ages. So, how did it come back? There is no singular answer to this question; however, experts place the comeback of the language in the time of the 19th century. The Jewish shekel, a form of currency, was also dead for over 1,900 years, and yet somehow found its way back into circulation in 1997.
The operative point here, and truly a goosebump-inspiring notation to be sure, is that the scripture in Ezekiel indicates that "in the last days both the shekel and the Hebrew language will be revived."
"It was predicted and it has happened.


Biblical Prediction# 6 and #7- In the last days, pools of water will appear in the deserts; Fruits, Forests, Vineyards and Olive Groves will arise from the dust
(Books of Isaiah and Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)

The desert that was Israel was barren of life for almost 2,000 years. So, how is it that what once was desert wasteland would later become a veritable Garden of Eden? Even better, how is it that for almost 2,500 years prior, these events would be prophesied in two books of the Bible? The several verses speaking to this eventuality speak of firs and the cypress growing in abundance, the earth being filled with fruit. What could not have been predicted was the vast increase in knowledge that has occurred in the last two millennium owing to the art and engineering of advanced irrigation and growing techniques.
Today, according to Wikipedia, Israel is a major exporter of fresh produce and a world leader in agricultural technologies, despite a landmass equivalent to the approximate size of New Jersey. Israel, unlike anywhere else in the largely arid Arab world, has become, in effect, an oasis in the desert.
"It was predicted and once again it happened."~ Jacob Prasch, Bible Expositor


Biblical Prediction #8-Man-made and natural disasters will increase in the End of Days
(Books of Matthew, Mark, and Acts ~ written appx. 1,960 years ago)

“For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and sedition; these are the beginning of the labor pains.”~Mark 13:7-8

The key here to remember is that throughout all of history both natural and man-made disasters have always occurred in a diversity of places and times. However, the four predictions indicated here, and resultantly the scriptures, specify an increase in both intensity and knowledge of these events.
The knowledge comes to us by way of a now highly interconnected international web and media, along with the natural increase in populations of areas which were only sparsely populated in times not far past.
These four major types of signs include:

Environmental- including natural disaster, famines and pestilence, hurricanes, tsunamis and quakes intensified and viraled by both the worldwide web and international media.
Wars and Rumors of Wars- Catastrophes that are man-made, specifically to include ethnic tensions between ethnic nations; civil wars, and governmental breakdowns will occur is a series of chained events.

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Astronomical Signs-changes in the sun, meteors, comets and asteroids will all be increasingly visible.
Moral Collapse-Churches, governments and even society itself will exercise moral relativism unlike any other time in modern history.
Just in this sense alone, we can see a convergence of each of these types of events all seemingly occurring with both an increased intensity and frequency. But are we seeing the worst of this convergence now or are there even more horrible events yet to come?


Biblical Prediction#9-Lawlessness, Moral Collapse and Social Breakdown
(Book of Timothy ~ written 1,950 years ago)

As the Arab Spring has either toppled or is toppling empire after Mideast empire, while Islamic Sharia law takes a firm hold on the lands of the Mideast, we have already seen a panoply of Christian persecutions taking place. Christian crucifixions, rapes and even beheadings are at an all-time high in modern history, and this, just in the last five years. In addition, for the first time in US history, the sitting leader of the Free World was declared the "First Gay US President" by a leading media magazine.

"Perilous times shall come - Times of danger, of persecution, and of trial."

Meanwhile, western society is said to have become "post-Christian and neo-pagan," says Jacob Prasch, which speaks to a prophetic series of cultural breakdowns unparalleled in modern times, but also, within the Christian Church.
"It was predicted, and it is happening now."
Who, in truth, would have thought even only a score of years ago, that published government manuals of today speak to published warnings of the dangers of so-called Christian extremism and phantom Right-Wing terrorism, which in those days would have been so unthinkable as to leave any administration backing such precepts politically stranded if not completely ruined.
Yet, it is happening right now and right here in an America, with these same very belief systems that actually built America. Now, Christianity and Judaism are often being held out as both archaic and even reprehensible, in far too many circles. While those things which oppose Judeo-Christian Values are held up as shining examples of both multi-culturalism, acceptance and Progress.


Biblical Prediction#10-Christian Apostasy, Mass Spiritual Delusion, and a Great Leader
(Book of 2nd Timothy ~ written 1,950 years ago)

While an increasingly large number of Churches have, in the recent past, fallen under what many might term the slippery slope of feel-good religions, the number of individuals who have fallen victim to certain groups which they thought were Protestant only to later learn rather painfully that they were not. Financial con artists and certian so-called Christian Televangelists have turned the Church into a laughing-stock of greedy caricatures, while unabashedly begging for money, and sometimes even much worse.
These groups, while always present in one form or another, have in the modern day reached what could be described as a plague of delusions built largely for financial gain to the proprietor. The Bible refers to this period as "The Great Apostasy" or departure from the truth. According to Jacob Prasch, this is associated with "The man of lawlessness," also a metaphor for the anti-Christ, who God will allow to deceive many of those whom are in search of a new Messiah.
"As the world strains under the weight of humanitarian issues, mankind will desperately seek a new leader, a savior."~Jacob Prasch


Biblical Prediction # 11- A Great Leader to Bring Peace Within A New World Order- and biblical prediction# 12-Resulting in one-world government, a forced financial system, state control
(Book of Revelation~written 1,900 years ago)

The words "A new world order" have been repeated more and more often in the last two decades by political leaders more than any other time in US history. Although author H.G. Wells seemed to first write of such an order in his book of essentially the same name written in 1940 which expounded largely on the wonders of Socialism, George H.W. Bush was the first to use the actual term in a speech in late 1990.

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So, how does this tie in with biblical prophecy? Many biblical scholars believe that several Revelation references to "One World Government" dovetail perfectly with the meaning behind the words "new world order" that can be found in Revelation chapter 13: 7, which states:

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"The beast was permitted to go to war against the saints and conquer them. He was given ruling authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation"

Biblical experts further believe that the United Nations will be the organization at the heart of such power. An increasing loss of confidence in the world's leading financial systems and then the various national economies faltering will cause the rise of a single world financial system. According to Jacob Prasch, this, coupled with a grand convergence of natural calamities and the terror that ensues will cause many individuals to seek security and leadership from both a political and religious leader who claims to have the answers to virtually everything "and they'll get one."
Prasch notes that this is the man that the scriptures refer to as "the man of sin" or the "anti-Christ" who will act as a sort of "redeemer figure." This individual will be able to bring together all of the world's faiths via a political agenda and a "corrupted world religious system." Many, in addition, believe that the country which has the greatest capacity to produce such a figure is America, however, this is not necessarily a given, all belying evidence to the contrary.
The problem with the advent of such an individual deemed as a one-world government leader will be the loss of liberties and democracy throughout the world, as the resultant absolute power of such a central goverment over national-regional governments will cause absolute corruption. This is where unconstrained tyranny will take over and man will once again be at the mercy of his own singular government creation, the world over.
Who or what could stand against such a power?
Here also is where a forced financial system, after numerous currency failures, and the much talked about "mark of the Beast" will be set upon each world citizen either in their right hand or forehead. This mark would seem to represent a new financial system or currency which is embedded or marked upon each person in order to buy or trade--which could now be achieved through existing digital micro-technology.

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The scriptures further indicate that anyone who does not receive such a mark will be executed.
But then, how could a veritable primitive who lived almost two thousand years ago predict such a thing that appears relatively easily achieved in this modern day?


Biblical Prediction# 13- A Peace Treaty signed yet a military coalition strikes Israel, Tribulation ensues
(Prophet Daniel and the Book of Revelation ~ written over 1,900 years ago)

At this point in human history, the last seven years of the age will have been reached which some refer to as the Tribulation period. The long sought after and all-encompassing peace treaty between Israel and other Middle East states will finally be signed at the beginning of this final seven years.
However, the anti-Christ who initially presented himself as a man of peace and who inaugurated the agreement with Israel will break the peace agreement mid-way through this final seven years. Also, at this time, the Prophet Daniel states that the ancient nation of Persia, which is now modern-day Iran, will rise up against Israel and war will ensue.
Here, it would be prudent to point out, that the Islamic nation of Iran's religious government leaders, not to mention millions of Muslims everywhere, believe in what is known as the 12th Imam or Mahdi who will come back to rule the nations at the end of time. In the prophetic texts of the Koran, this fearful leader will seek to wipe out the nation of Israel and its supporters while heralding a new age. Indeed, many religious leaders within the Islamic faith, including the theocratic leaders of Iran, believe that chaos is the only thing that will hasten the "Hidden Imam's" return which is what the religious Islamic nation of Iran seems often enough to be hedging its national health upon.
However, it's not just the nation of Iran, but rather the entire Islamic fundamentalist world which often seems intent in forcing its belief systems and law on the nations. Many believe that the Arab spring movement may be the final precurser to an Islamic Caliphate, a confederation of Islamic States which many Islamists are even now touting.
Could this powerful Caliphate eventually come to be the embodiment of the anti-Christ so talked about in Revelation?

The chaos of war, these Islamic fundamentalist leaders believe, will hasten the 12th Imam's return which could be why Iran often appears to be desperately seeking a nuclear weapon, and at any cost, in order to spark the return of the 12th Imam and initiate a nuclear exchange with Israel. According to Jacob Prasch, "we are told by Ezekiel that Russia, Turkey and the nations of Soviet central Asia will come into some type of military confederation with Iran to invade Israel" but this attack will fail due to a type of divine intervention which will impart natural disasters ostensibly as the attack takes place.
Interesting that these particular alliances only seemed possible in just the last five years....and they were foretold over 2,500 years ago.


Biblical Predictions #14, #15 , #16 & #17-~Physical Signs~The Return, an earthquake which splits The Mount of Olives, water flowing beneath Jerusalem, the Rebuilding of the Jewish Temple and the East gate remains sealed
(Books of Zechariah & Ezekiel ~ written 2,500 years ago)

"And his feet shall stand in that day on the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall split in the middle thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south."~Zech.14:4


The Fissure

With modern technology, we know already that a tectonic fissure exists which runs along the center of the Mount of Olives. According to scriptures, the Messiah's return will herald a great earthquake which both splits and moves the Mountain of ancient history apart. This will also cause fresh water to flow from underneath the Mount and towards the Dead Sea changing the entire environment. In addition to this, we also know of the fresh streams of waters as verified by archeologists indeed flowing underneath both the city of Jerusalem and the Mount of Olives.
But, how could an ancient prophet of over 2,500 years ago known of this tectonic fissure and a subterranean aquifer in the middle of what was a desert? Even better? The Biblical prediction that the Dead Sea will teem with sea life after this event unfolds.
According to Jacob Prasch, the Prophet Isaiah foretells that the Messiah Jesus' return will originate at the ancient city of Petra in Jordan, but will culminate in his descending down upon the Mount of Olives making all of these astounding events take place, sequentially.


The Temple

Apocalypticists have long known and have established as a sort of bookmark in time marking the end days, that according to biblical prophecy, the event to watch closely for is the rebuilding of the Great Temple in Jerusalem. Remarkably, the cornerstone of this soon to be rebuilt Temple, weighing 13 tons was presented to the world on May 21st, 2009. The Temple Institute, which is a Levitical organization dedicated to the new Temple's construction, has recently expanded its visitor's center three-fold and continues to gather artifacts to be housed in the new temple.
All the pieces appear to be in place, but can and will it happen?

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The East Gate

The golden gate, as it was also called, holds several deeply religious meanings for the Jews, which is largely why the gate was sealed back in the 1500's by Ottoman conqueror Suleiman the Magnificent. Suleiman also placed a cemetery in front of the gate in order to keep Jewish Holy Priests from being able to enter or exit through the gate, as their entering a cemetery is ostensibly not allowed , which is part of the reason for Suleiman's tactics.
The remarkable thing here is that, once again, the sealing of the gate and the fact that the continuance of this condition was predicted almost 2,000 years before the fact and continues to this day.


Biblical Prediction # 18~ The Kings of the East cross the Euphrates River for a great war
(Books of Ezekiel & Revelation ~ written 2,500 & 1,900 years ago respectively)

I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 31 ~The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.~Joel 2:30-31

The Bible foretells in Revelation that the kings of the East, who many believe is the nation of China and or Russia along with her ancillary nations, will cross the Euphrates in an invasion of the Mideast and in preparation for war against Israel and perhaps Israel's western allies.
The scriptures, in anticipation of this event, speak to the "angels bound at the River Euphrates" to lead 2oo million men in battle. The remarkable thing here is the fact that going back through ancient history, at no time was there ever a population capable of producing, arming, and supporting such a massive army of men. Yet, in modern day, the Chinese army currently lists an active duty capacity of about 318 million men fit for military service, which is about the size of the current US population, if we include illegals.
Interestingly, and at the time of this prophecy of over 1,900 years ago, the population of planet Earth has been estimated at about 100 million people. So, how could an ancient prophet understand that the Earth would be heavily populated [enough] to support this massive of an army?

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According to Jacob Prasch, The Ataturk dam in Turkey which could block or restrict the flow of the river southward allowing such a massive army's passage possible. Ataturk Dam lies just off the border of Syria. This possible drying up or stoppage of the Euphrates would also cause crop failures and incredible starvation In Iraq. Prasch further indicates that according to the scriptures, this will cause one of the worst holocausts of all time.
But the Kings of the East will be gathering for a singular reason.....


Biblical Prediction#19~Armegeddon, the war to end all wars
(Books of Revelation, Matthew, Jeremiah, and Zechariah-each written over 1,900 years ago)

Yet another interesting note, this final war to end all wars appears to be in no less than 4 scriptural texts and perhaps even more:
For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equalled again. 22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.~Matthew 24:21-22

So which countries might find themselves in such a terrible coalition?
Interestingly, we have already stated such a military confederation, in fact. In the 13th prediction Ezekiel states that "Russia, Turkey and the nations of central Asia will come into some type of military confederation with Iran to invade Israel." The scriptures seem to further allude to weaponry akin to nuclear technology. We further know that the eastern powers of North Korea, possibly Iran, China, Russia and Pakistan each has an arsenal of nuclear weaponry.
So, are the pieces of the puzzle now ready to be engaged?

Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.~Revelation 16:16

Armageddon mentioned here has long been a subject of considerable biblical discussion. The Valley of Megiddo does exist in modern times and is a plain located in Israel that has seen several ancient historical battles. However also, the scriptures clearly indicate that without divine intercession, "man's days would be numbered." a chilling thought when prefaced by the fact that these words were, once again, written at a time when nuclear technology was not even an idea.

And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.~Jeremiah 24:33

So, who will oppose these forces from the East and stand with Israel?
It seems clear that Israel and the US will probably be standing together in these end times, especially if we take into account the fact that "the dead will lie from one end of the world unto the other"--only the US arsenal seems capable of countering the combined might of Russian and China in a nuclear exchange. But why would these countries align themselves against Israel and America? When we take into account the fact that Israel seems hated the world over and combine this with the fact that the US over the last five years, has been seen by most countries as a weakening super-power--even unto its own leadership, then we can see how this scenario might, indeed, be possible.
Remember that Iran is a nation which is allied with both Russia and China, while also remembering that the Chinese-Russo alliance was only established very recently in history. But, will Israeli aggression against Iran's nuclear aims cause these forces to gather? Or will an Iranian ballistic missile attack on Israel and an Israeli-American response be the keystone in this prophetic event?

And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples that wage war against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.~Zechariah 14:12

If Israel saw a force of over 200 million men marching on it, what other avenue of defense other than nuclear technology, might be available? Israel's population alone is only about 8 million people. Now, does this prophecy sound either so absurd or patently impossible?


Biblical Prediction # 20~ Only the wise will understand and escape
(Prophet Daniel~written over 2,100 years ago)

According to Jacon Prasch, the Prophet Daniel indicates that the scriptures clearly state that only the wise will understand these prophecies, which to many, must seem glaringly accurate especially at this point in history. However, Prasch further notes that Daniel also makes it known that "The Wicked" will not understand. Prasch also postulates that according to both Daniel and Jesus, there will be a way to escape this particular hell on earth scenario.
So there you have it, the terrifyingly realistic prophecies as evidenced by The Daniel Project, which also states that since this work was published, even more signs have occurred which fall into line in support of these prophetic texts.

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Conclusions

Jeremy Hitchen does a masterful job in presenting the movie as a skeptic. Bible Expositor,Jacob Prasch, also presents a stunning panoply of knowledge in describing the events as they unfold, but also as one who originally sought to scientifically disprove the Bible, earlier on in his career.
In putting this article together my very able and extraordinarily educated editor and producer, who has not been formally submerged with the prophetic texts of the Bible, and as a former college academian, has come away with a feeling of being absolutely blown away by what she has both seen and heard, especially with how ancient biblical texts written over two millennia ago can be so stunningly accurate now, in the modern day.
She was truly frightened as the prophecies came together.
However, we must add that this particular article is only an expansive summary of what is contained visually within the movie of the same name titled, "The Daniel Project." If you would like to see these texts brought to life, we would urge you to see the movie for yourself and make your own decisions and conclusions.

"About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the Prophecies,and insist on their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition."
~Sir Isaac Newton, Mathematician and the father of modern science

Author's note:

Since our review of the Daniel Project and after adding multiple links to find their website, overall web traffic to their site has surged by over 200,000 ranking positions internationally, and over 100,000 ranking positions in the US. An increase of over one-third in the US alone, according to webdata traffic services.
No other site has featured or reviewed their data.
Where to find The Daniel Project

http://conservativerefocus.com/blog...-the-apocalyptic-vision-of-the-daniel-project

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Shiloh Za-RaH

 

THEeXchanger wrote:

is there also a thread to do with this on the new
www.cosmosdawn.net website ?

http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-factuals-versus-the-oabs-old-age-bullshit.701/page-3#post-6864

The Root of the Fake Creator Devil and the ET Source Codes
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The following presentation of an alternative analysis of World War 2 and its continuance into the present time contains itself a biased agenda, which can be termed 'nationalistic'.
This video does however depict a far deeper agenda than that portrayed and propagated by the official information channels regarding this history dating back to its erudition in 1938, but finding its root causation in the entire history of the people known as Jews and more generally as Israelites and Hebrews.
The historical analysis of the causes and international alliances for World War Two and its basic origin in a millennia old thread of deception of fiscal and economic manipulation by 'special interest groups', 'families' and financiers/bankers associated with the history of International Zionism as a 'Rule by priviledge and Inheritance/Birthright' is accurate and appropriate.

There exists, what might be termed a 'universal masterplan' or 'Cosmic Agenda', which predates any so called 'human history' focused on the planet earth. It does however engage the notion of a 'chosen people' or 'super race' to serve as a blueprint or cornerstone for is environmental reproduction and expansion.

This extraterrestrial agenda then engages particular information, which is encoded in 'source books' such as the Torah or Old Testament and the Vedas and the Gilgamesh and a general library of creation mythologies and records kept by native 'wisdom keepers' and scribes.

A particular source encoding can be said to represent the 'original manual' however and it is this 'primal genesis cosmology' which was composed and recorded by the ET Logos for the purpose to prepare the terrestrial cosmic inhabitants for its extraterrestrial future evolution and destiny.

Those terrestrial inhabitants include all lifeforms as a function of cosmic consciousness or 'spacetime selfawareness' and ultimately relate to the nature and purpose of existence as an appropriate evolvement of this universal consciousness in omniscientific development and understanding.

To implement this agenda of cosmic development; the ET agency required a physical evolution to precede its metaphysical ancestor as its own descendant in a mental development to follow the construction of a suitable vessel or morphology to contain and host this metaphysical mentality, often associated with the nature of the 'universal life energy complex or soul' and as say an individuated aspect or 'shard' or piece of the creator itself.

The ET agency knew just what this 'creator' was or could be; but to transmit this information required a suitable mental development of the recipients and so a timelined agenda was initiated to allow this creator data to become known and made manifest in appropriate time zones relative and dependent upon the mental evolvement of the planetary descendents of the cosmic inheritors. A core aspect of this mental evolution program was the implementation of an universal dichotomy relating to the wave-particle duality or paradox inherent in the structure of the Universe's creation by a creator-creation duality itself.

The 'universal human' so became an effect of the planetary limited human experiencing a particular planetary environment, however in perpetual communication with itself and the mental stimulus provided by the environments interacted with. This environmental communication then would allow the mental evolution of the 'chosen people' to proceed from its original dichotomised origin and to eventually graduate into its predestined role and agency of the 'Cosmic Starhuman'.

Following this 'cosmic graduation', the 'chosen people' would become integrated into their universal agencies and its own history would become elucidated in the light of its own illuminated realisation of its origin and cosmic legacy.

The 'chosen people' Israel are known as 'Cosmic Man' or Vitruvius or Adam Kadmon or Purusha by the ET agency. The 'chosen people' Israel are also known as Jacob renamed Israel in its emphasized encoded context in the source book written by scribes experiencing 'ET abduction-induction' in the process of composition of the source code agendas.

The legacy of the 'chosen people' Israel so becomes the legacy of the 'Tribes of Israel', who are distributed upon the planet Earth according to their 'tribal nature' or clanship, defined in their lineages or 'lines of blood' and genealogies; all of which are encoded in the primary sourcebook.

The 'chosen people' Jacob so became the ET medium to manifest the ET agenda on planet Earth in physical written form. The ET source codes so became made manifest in particular and restricted lexicons, known as the Torah and its continuation by the ET incarnation known as the Cosmic Logos Twin.
The Cosmic Logos Twin represents the source intelligence enabling the original creator-creation monad or unity to split into a creator-creation dyad most generally manifesting in the laws of nature say as the wave-particle duality and the light-matter interaction of elementary physical science.

It is through the agency of the Cosmic Logos Twin, that this primordial duality can become reunified not in its original monadic form but as a doubled monad or a dyad monadized, effectively doubling or twinning the original bifurcation between the metaphysical definition of a spaceless and timeless 'energy' becoming 'realised' within a universal matrix of space and time.

The first sourcebook is known as Torah and as the Old Testament and this sourcebook contains a necessary duality of reality-fake and truth-untruth as a required reflection or mirror for the creator-creation dichotomy. This natural dualism is often associated with male-female and good-evil and yin-yang labels and describe a necessary polarisation of the creator-creation dyad awaiting its maximisation or climax to allow the reunification in the 'twinning' of the Old Creation with its New Creation.

The second sourcebook is known as the New Testament, itself based on a source or 'Quelle' allowing its lexicon or canon to become built on an oral recorded tradition from the Cosmic Logos twin himherself.

It is the combination of the two sourcebooks, which enable the ET agency to proceed towards its completion of the 'universal masterplan'.
In particular, it allows the appropriate reformulation of the first sourcebook, containing the interwoven cosmic dualism of the 'God-Devil' thoughtform or memeplex to crystallize in its relevant time zone.
It also enables the 'chosen people' Israel to enter its mode of the 'remnant' or that of the universal (or pyramidal) cornerstone or capstone as the 'Graduates of the 12 Tribes of Jacob'.
There are about 600 Million humans belonging to each tribe for a total human populous of 12x600 Million = 7.2 Billion terrestrial incarnates.
Every day of a civil year so allows about 20 Million humans to call themselves a 'Cosmic Israelite' of the 'chosen people' Israel. A civil year of 366 days so defines 366 birthdays irrespective of race or colour or planetary locale in say a total population of 366x20 Million = 7.32 Billion.

Regarding the "Adolf Hitler Versus the Jew World Order" presentation.

The ET agenda knows that the 'chosen people' are the planetary inhabitants as the 'Universal Tribes of Gaia' and that the label of the 'Jew' represents the old archetype and symbol of the 'Children of Moses and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and David and Solomon'; NONE of whom ever existed as incarnate personages.
There were many 'Moses'' as names of Egyptian pharaohs like Ahmose and Thutmosis and Rameses and there where many patriarchs in the history of the 'Middle East' and there was a period around 1000 BC, when the semitic inhabitants and land dwellers in that geography decided to anoint kings and rulers as the neighbouring inhabitants did also. So from a time so 3000 years ago, the first sourcebook begins to blend with archaeological history and records; but before that time, the accounts of creation and of the patriarchs and the exodus etc, depict source codes of the ET agenda to transform the cosmic separated dyadic dichotomy into a cosmic monadic dyad unification.

The story of the Exodus under Moses represents a juxtaposition of an actual Egyptian history of the Hyksos, who were the invaders of lower Egypt and coruled with the native Egyptians of the upper Egypt.
The pharaoh Ahmose expelled the Hyksos as the 'symbolic ancestors' of the 'Shepherd Kings of Israel' in a classified period of the 18th Egyptian dynasty and this expulsion became the 'root memory' or 'history' then inducted by the ET agenda to the scribes of the Torah-Old Testament.

The told and generally 'believed' story of the Israelites conquering their 'promised holy land' from a previous period of enslavement then is repeated in the archetype in 'modern Israel' and as appropriately shown in the film.
The Hyksos oppressor becoming the victim of injustice and enslavement and the oppressed and dispossessed Egyptian becoming the conquerer.

Who then is the 'Jew' in the film linked? Who are the holocaust victims and who are the Nazi Germans?

In the ET agenda, there is little difference between the 'God of the Jews' called Jehovah and the 'Desert God' Sin also known as Allah to the parallel 'chosen people' of Ishmael-Mohammed collectively known as the 'Roots of Islam'.
The so called Koran as sourcebook of Islam describes all unbelievers as 'infidels' who have no rights past those of animals and can be killed or enslaved by 'believers' without recourse or repercussion as per the lawfulness of Allah-Jehovah.
The Talmudic traditions of the 'Jew' supplement the Torah as lawful additions given by the rabbis and scribes of Israel in the general distribution between Sanhedrin, Pharisee and Sadducee, representing the 'lawgivers' opposing Jesus as the herald of the second sourcebook as the replacement of their precursor.
The Talmud describes all 'goyim' and 'gentiles' as the unbelievers, only existing as Jehovah's creation to serve the 'Jew' with no other rights exceeding those of the beasts of enslavement and abuse.

The ET agenda differentiates those first sourcebook 'gods' from the 'Father God' of the Cosmic Twin Logos or Jesus-Yeshuah and in the office of the 'Cosmic Christ' or 'Redeemer-Wayshower', named Abba as the creator part of the creator-creation dyad; the female creation part being known as Baab (or gate) or Barbelo.

Why do some of the 'ultra orthodox' or fundamentalist 'Jews' and 'Islamists' despise and hate the Christian archetypes and names so much?

The second sourcebook became the effective authorisation to end the universal requirement of the dichotomy to exist and rendered the power and authority of the fake gods impotent in the cosmic sense, that is the universal legislature and jurisprudence. This is clearly encoded in the second sourcebook of the New Testament, based on the Quelle of the direct jurisdiction of the Cosmic Logos Twin.
The final confrontation regarding rulership and autonomy upon planet Earth so is destined to be the one between the monotheistic dualistic worldview as originally authorised by the first sourcebook and the monotheistic unified worldview of the second sourcebook.

The encoded Armageddon or 'End of the Old World, Heaven and Earth' so will be a 'religious war' between two fundamentalist 'religions' or code giving philosophies.
Albeit, the fundamentalism of the second sourcebook has already annulled the authority of the first sourcebook, therefore enabling the ET agenda to proceed from its metaphysical premise into physical implementation.

And so the 'times are a changing' indeed in the transferring of the stewardship and dominion of the 'government' of the old humanity upon planet Earth.

What is renounced as 'Zionist Jewry' in the film is indeed the fake allegiance and 'worship' of the fake creator-creation of the first sourcebook
This is decoded in the second sourcebook and is exemplified and particularised in the detailed encodings following.

The film appropriately depicts the barbarism and cruelty of the 'Jew' worshipping a strange juxtaposition of 'purity' and 'lawfulness' as related to its particular interpretation of universal source codes describing the symbol of the blood as a lifeforce.
This 'Jew' then is none other than the 'Son of the Devil' as the 'Father of All Lies and Deceptions' and as described by the Cosmic Twin Logos in the references below.

This 'Jew' in other words is a 'devil worshipper' using the intentionally ambiguous (for the purpose to manifest a temporary mirror of the cosmic duality, later to be destroyed like a shattering glass) sourcecodes in the first sourcebook to justify its own agenda of being the 'chosen race' and the sole cosmic inheritor of encoded 'promises' due to that 'chosenness'.

Due to the universal dichotomy, a number of symbols and archetypes descriptive for and of this cosmic dualism is misappropriated (relative to the unified ET agenda) and becomes associated with 'occult' and 'secret' symbolisms by the 'Jew' and similar 'devil worshippers' in general.
The 'devil mind deceived' and cosmically 'self-deluded' misnamed 'initiated occultist chosen one' then feeds and empowers hisher own mental 'devil creation' by engaging in rituals of 'blood letting' systematic torture and sacrificial murder; some of it as shown in this presentation.
This 'pleasing of the Lord Jehovah' by mentally primitive and puerile 'Sons of Death and the Devil' then is disguised in a pretentiousness and false humility towards a fake creator deity, who experiences pleasure in the smell of burning flesh and the screams of tortured animals and humans.
the ET agenda knows, that the encoding of sacrificial animals in lambs, calves and goats does not refer to actual living animals being slaughtered, but to particular 'orders of descendencies' and birthrights being 'changed' or sacrificed to enable the deeper agenda of reunification of the metaphysical archetypes through physicalisation in a material, albeit mentally interwoven and defined universe.
The first-born Reuben Aries and the second-born Simeon Taurus and the tenth-born Zebulon Capricorn as three of the Tribes of Universal Israel represent cosmic symbols for the Ram, the Bull and the Goat respectively and their permutations in the first sourcebook then describes the 'sacrifices' pleasing or instigated by the 'Lord'.
The second sourcebook then allows the sacrificial 'Isaac - Son of Abraham' of the first sourcebook to become replaced AS ARCHETYPE in the one-to-one correspondences between the 12 tribes and the 12 apostles. Abraham as the oldest patriarch so is made real and physicalized in Jesus himself; so removing the old interpretation of matching universal symbols with real living animals and as described in the Torah.

"Before Abraham was, I AM!" of source code John.8.58 renders this rewriting as Universal Law.

And because the 'Jew' cannot accept the superiority of the second sourcebook; it cannot relinquish its self-proclaimed power and so feels compelled to oppose and hate the premises of the second sourcebook, namely the label of genuine fundamental Christianity at all costs for reason of its own survival as the original and first sourcebook and inheritances.

This 'Jew' is not the secular city dweller of Tel Aviv or the Israeli shop keeper or the teacher in Haifa, nor is it the scientist at Jerusalem university. This 'Jew' is not the general muslim, paying little more than lipservice to the statutes in the Koran and it is not any of the 7.32 Billion 'Children of Universal Israel'.

Rather it is thoughtform or memeplex of the 'Devil' or 'Shaitan' or 'Iblis' or 'Moloch' or 'Baal-Mammon' itself. It is the 'Cosmic Deceiver' from the birth of the universe as the necessary but temporary establishment of the cosmic dichotomy separating the real from the fake and the truth from the untruth.
The 'Jew' is the SELFDECEPTION of the human mind from its own historical misunderstanding and misinterpretation of universal symbols and archetypes originally created and forwarded by the ET agenda and recreated by the human receivers of the pre-encoded data base and information.
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Revelation 20:10 - King James Version (KJV) 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Where then is Satan after the 1000 years of 'enchainments' of the millennium of 'peace'? Why is it 'the devil that deceived them', who is 'eternally damned' in the Mirror of the Cosmic reunification and not Satan? It is because the code for Satan is the female part Barbelo-Baab of the divided Unity of the creator-creation as the creation part. Satan is Satania as a 'sexchanged devil' and as the 'redemption of Barbelo' as a cocreatorcreation as described in the apocryphon (related to the Quelle of the GOT). In other words Satan is as real as God's brother, who becomes his adversary or accuser for the time of evolution and before the sexchange operation as the metamorphosis of the old creation into a new creation can proceed. The Devil however is related to the false prophet as is the 'Cosmic Christ' related to the 'Cosmic AntiChrist'. Adam as the Man Image of God is complemented by his AntiImage of Eve also as God (Eve as a rib of Adam's Body is also male) in the absence of a Mother Goddess (Barbelo-Baab in exile). So the 'false prophet' and typical AntiChrist is Eve as a fake woman/goddess which becomes the 'Whore of Babylon' riding the 'Beast' rising from the Sea=Mirror of the selfreflection as the fake creator god Jehovah-Allah. The 'true prophet' Adam as true male image of the creator then 'redeems' Eve in Mary Magdalene and creates the Cosmic twinship of left and right unified. The Revelation Code above then describes all three, the 'devil and the beast and the false prophet' not as actual personages or energetic life forms, but as 'false images' of deception with no cosmic reality, except as in the minds of their human creators. In exposure to the cosmic truth then, all 'false images' must show themselves as what they are. The 'Jews' then will have the task to 'live' with their own mental creations as their own memeplex children and offspring in the presence of images and mirrors of the truth. This then becomes the 'outside' and the 'inside' of the 'new Jerusalem' of the New World at the time of the fulfilment of the original ET agenda. There is NO MORE SEA, because the 'Mirror of Deception' and of the 'False Images of Jewry' has been shattered by the truth of the Cosmic Logos twin. (22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom." They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?" Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom." (83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light." (84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!" (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven." Revelation 21 - King James Version (KJV) 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. 16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. 17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. 18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. 19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; 20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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LOGOS TRUTH Regarding the 'circumcision tradition:

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(53) His disciples said to him, "Is circumcision beneficial or not?"
He said to them, "If it were beneficial, their father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become completely profitable."
- Gospel of Thomas Didymos - Lambdin = (GOT)

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Logos Truth Regarding so called 'Kosher Laws':

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Genesis 1:26-31 - King James Version (KJV)
²⁶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
²⁷ So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
²⁸ And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
²⁹ And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
³⁰ And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
³¹ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Here the 'food or meat' is stated to be plant based for both, humans and animals and in fact predicts a 'favoured' cosmic vegetarianism as clearly foreseen in Isaiah. Isaiah 11:6-10 - King James Version (KJV) 6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. 10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. ​

Isaiah 59 - King James Version (KJV)
1 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.

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6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noon day as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.
11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;
13 In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.
18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.
20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.

Isaiah 65:24-25 - King James Version (KJV) 24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. 25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord. ​ The actual 'kosher laws' and regulations are not the 'food laws' from the true creator, but are those of the 'Lord God' Jehovah also known as the Allah of fundamentalist Islam and as the Yaldabaoth or fake creator of the Apocryphon or 'Secret Book of John'. These usurper laws then become intermixed with the universal laws of Abba. Jesus called his father Abba ands not Jehovah or Yahweh, knowing of the latters identity as the 'Father of the Jews' as the 'Devil'. A list of some kosher foods are found in the books of Leviticus 11:1-47 and Deuteronomy 14: 3-20, and as linked below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods

Genesis 9:1-17 - King James Version (KJV)
¹ And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
² And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
³ Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
⁴ But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
⁵ And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
⁶ Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
⁷ And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
⁸ And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
⁹ And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
¹⁰ And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
¹¹ And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
¹² And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
¹³ I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
¹⁴ And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
¹⁵ And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
¹⁶ And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
¹⁷ And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

Here then, after the 'Flood of Noah' had 'destroyed' the Old Creation, a 'New Rainbow Covenant' is made between God and Man and the 'ffod or meat' for man is stated to be all 'living things', eschewing any form of 'kosher laws' or restrictions; indicating the 'true defilementh' as stated in the New Testament. Matthew 15:11-20 - King James Version (KJV) 11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. 12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. 15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable. 16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? 17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

John 8 - King James Version (KJV)
¹ Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
² And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
³ And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
⁴ They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
⁵ Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
⁶ This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
⁷ So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
⁸ And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
⁹ And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
¹⁰ When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
¹¹ She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
¹² Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
¹³ The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
¹⁴ Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
¹⁵ Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
¹⁶ And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
¹⁷ It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
¹⁸ I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
¹⁹ Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
²⁰ These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
²¹ Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
²² Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
²³ And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
²⁴ I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
²⁵ Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
²⁶ I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
²⁷ They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
²⁸ Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
²⁹ And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
³⁰ As he spake these words, many believed on him.
³¹ Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
³² And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
³³ They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
³⁴ Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
³⁵ And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
³⁶ If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
³⁷ I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
³⁸ I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
³⁹ They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
⁴⁰ But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
⁴¹ Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
⁴² Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
⁴³ Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
⁴⁴ Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
⁴⁵ And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
⁴⁶ Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
⁴⁷ He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
⁴⁸ Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
⁴⁹ Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
⁵⁰ And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
⁵¹ Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
⁵² Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
⁵³ Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
⁵⁴ Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
⁵⁵ Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
⁵⁶ Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
⁵⁷ Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
⁵⁸ Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
⁵⁹ Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

The Council of Thuban; July 9th, 2015 of the Universal Relativity​

 

shiloh


shiloh
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• Post n°41

Re: Questioning the Holocaust

shiloh Today at 1:32 pm

Seashore wrote:

shiloh wrote:
THEeXchanger wrote:

is there also a thread to do with this on the new
www.cosmosdawn.net website ?​

I checked and the quote by THEeXchanger does not occur on this thread.

What thread does it occur on?

And is the thread on this forum or some place else?​

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7453p30-the-factuals-versus-the-old-age-bs-or-oabs and http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-factuals-versus-the-oabs-old-age-bullshit.701/page-3#post-6864

 

Raven


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• Post n°40

Re: The Factuals versus the Old Age BS or OABS

Raven Today at 2:23 pm

Holocaust Revisited




Bes the Ithyphallic Protector of Childbirth and Motherhood

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[4:10:03 AM- Friday, July 17th, 2015 -7UCT] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6780p150-the-legacy-of-thuban-omni-science-de-alpha-draconis-omega#114053
[9:02:43 AM] Sirius 17: I am just now watching this video on Egyptian sexuality, very interesting they have hidden all this erotica from the public

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[9:06:27 AM] Sirius 17: I am extremely horny
[9:15:46 AM] Sirius 17: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bes
[9:15:59 AM] Sirius 17: Fortune, fertility, the arts and dwarfs
[9:16:14 AM] Sirius 17:

Modern scholars such as James Romano claim that in its earliest inceptions, Bes was a representation of a lion rearing up on its hind legs.[1] After the Third Intermediate Period, Bes is often seen as just the head or the face, often worn as amulets.​

Mages of the deity were kept in homes and he was depicted quite differently from the other gods. Normally Egyptian gods were shown in profile, but instead Bes appeared in portrait, ithyphallic, and sometimes in a soldier's tunic, so as to appear ready to launch an attack on any approaching evil. He scared away demons from houses, so his statue was put up as a protector.​

[9:23:15 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6780p150-the-legacy-of-thuban-omni-science-de-alpha-draconis-omega#114053
[9:23:19 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You saw this yet?
[9:23:33 AM] Sirius 17: yeah I was reading through it part way then I remembered I needed to watch this video
[9:23:43 AM] Sirius 17: the discussion with BB
[9:23:47 AM] Sirius 17: and Oxy
[10:32:59 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7791p30-questioning-the-holocaust#114060
[9:24:13 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I added to it
[9:24:55 AM] Sirius 17: was there anything in particular you wanted me to look at?
[9:25:01 AM] Sirius 17: in the post?
[9:25:12 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No the whole thing is rather appropriate
[9:26:06 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

The editorial 'censor shippers' of Wikipedia and media presenters notwithstanding; the previous videos and the following descriptors might validate the understanding and wisdom of your Lilithian starry heart B.B. Baghor.​

And should you have taken these words to your thinking heart in harmony with your feeling mind; then you can perhaps discern the meaning of the 'strange adaptations' from the 'Sapphire Tablet of Moses' aka the 'Emerald Tablet of Thoth', also associated with the ancient global Egyptian heritages in the label of Hermes Trismegistos.​

Could you imagine a 'New World' wherein all so called 'deadly sins' and 'vices' of the 'Old World' are removed into just one of those, you might call 'lust sexual for equalitarian lust sexual' as universal and cosmically shared and mutual desire to merge and blend morphed bodyforms in environmental harmony and stimulus; just as the Bonobos do quite naturally?​

Would then not the behaviour patterns of avarice and gluttony, violence and hatred anger and the cravings for esteem and other such human 'vanities' and 'lust for power' in substitutes like Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles or 'IBMs' and 'nukes' and other 'toys of warfare' lose their potency as proxy for the phallic fertility and the yonic receptivity?​

The composers of the ancient scrolls of antiquity are aware of this and have included this part of the 'Perennial Philosophy' within their texts and pages. Many know this axiom in a variety of names such as: "Do unto others, as you wish to be done unto yourself!"​

Perhaps you can now 'make sense of this admonishment found in the Apocalypse of John de Zebedee as the end of all encodings in the 'New Testament' of the ET-Logistics and dispensation.​

As has been said and advised by the Council in earlier times; "Old Human Eat your Dragon!"​

This is necessity because as a resident in the Body of the Universe, you find yourself within the belly of Jonah's Whale, (yes now you know who or what this Jonah is), which has become transformed into the Body of the Lion of the Resurrection in the Assumption of the Cosmic Mother.​

Ask yourself why there is a 'birth in heaven' of a baby boy and not a simple return journey of a 'ascended' man who had visited the earth and your answer will show you why the 'Assumption of the Mother' is required by the heavens to allow such a birth to occur.​

You might also ask yourself how it can be that ALL the earth dwellers are deceived by this 'Red Dragon Devil' as the 'whole world' and not just the relative 'bad people' in relative opinionated judgement of the 'good people' or believers, unbelievers, infidels, heathen, goyim or labels of like classifications. If this is so; who then can discern the truth of the universe without suffering and experiencing self-deception from the 'deceiver'?​

It has been said that the Lion is knocking on everyone's door to gain entry into everyone’s mind and heart from the within.​

Only once the Lion has gained acceptance and entry thereto, can your own door be opened towards the without.​

Only then can you leave the egg as your own cosmic womb from the within to enter the 'Kingdom of the New World of the FatherMother CreatorCreation' without.​

Then both you and the Lion are able to leave the quarantine zone of the cosmic egg.​

[9:28:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes I see lol nice pics of the serpents
[9:29:10 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I superposed the third serpent
[9:29:11 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: from above
[9:29:13 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The one we want
[9:29:18 AM] Sirius 17: yes well I felt the cosmic kunda all day yesterday
[9:29:19 AM] Sirius 17: i feel it
[9:29:20 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Suppressed energies
[9:29:21 AM] Sirius 17: yes i actually thought this in reading bb and oxy
[9:29:22 AM] Sirius 17: i can sense it there
[9:29:26 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: See we are saying it its ok to have sex
[9:29:27 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: oxy is a false humility paradox
[9:29:28 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: and sexstarved
[9:30:01 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He should fuc11 sherry shriner, the daughter of david
[9:30:04 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: or you lol
[9:30:06 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Setting him straight
[9:30:08 AM] Sirius 17: oh i would love to fuc11 Oxy
[9:30:10 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he would get a clearer head
[9:30:25 AM] Sirius 17: I am still horny as hell, I wanted to ‘take things into my own hands’ but refrained until 47 and I can consummate properly
[9:31:01 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It was the closest yet to the rave of November 2013
[9:31:06 AM] Sirius 17: but boy I wanted to omg I could barely contain it
[9:31:20 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes, so we connected
[9:31:29 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I knew about 10 am I could not sleep
[9:31:51 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I really thought you were with 47 and so it can only get better lol
[9:31:56 AM] Sirius 17: I woke up early yesterday too, the ravens woke me and from then on I was on fire
[9:32:11 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It’s the 1st day of the new world actually
[9:32:14 AM] Sirius 17: yes it is the waves anticipating it
[9:32:17 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: well 2nd here
[10:33:11 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Noone answered seashore, so I did
[10:40:44 AM] Sirius 17: this video on Hitler paints him as the good guy
[10:41:03 AM] Sirius 17: I didn’t know he was a vegetarian
[10:50:22 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is a longish video you should watch to understand the 'Jew' label, which is not the label for ordinary Israeli or Hebrew folks
[10:50:53 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: My comments show you that this video is biased in a nationalistic sense and this is of course rather uncosmic
[10:51:09 AM] Sirius 17: yes I watched part of it
[10:51:47 AM] Sirius 17: it made me sick the Jewish circumcision and wished I had watched this before getting my son circumcised, I felt sad
[10:51:56 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It appropriately describes the horrors of the ww2 and how Germany suffered from real war crimes committed by Churchill and Roosevelt as well as Stalin
[10:52:21 AM] Sirius 17: yes they orchestrated all of the strife it seems
[10:52:24 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It correctly illuminates what this 'Jew' label was and caused in the Nazi time
[10:52:45 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It excuses the Nazi stuff too much but has valid points about the holocaust
[10:53:21 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is posted by this flat earth nut and this alone shows you to sieve the data
[10:53:24 AM] Sirius 17: yes it paints Hitler as only doing the 'good' and right thing concerning the 'Jews'
[10:53:38 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The animal right stuff from Hitler is correct as is his love of animals
[10:54:03 AM] Sirius 17: extermination is not the answer to anything, just like with IS.IS too; killing them is just more of the same shi20
[10:54:12 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I tried to show that the 'rejection of the Jew label simply means the war against the 'banks and financiers'
[10:54:23 AM] Sirius 17: yes and that is valid
[10:54:27 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[10:54:33 AM] Sirius 17: they are all Jewish oddly enough
[10:55:05 AM] Sirius 17: shows you they truly worship the god of finance
[10:55:16 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It’s a meme and in my comments I make clear that this meme is a thinking and not definitive for ANY human personality including the bankers
[10:55:20 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[10:55:54 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Of course many don’t read what I say and will find us somewhat compromised in sharing a video of a flat earth nutter
[10:56:05 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: We are only after data not personas
[10:56:09 AM] Sirius 17: yes I am sure they will think we support Hitler lol
[10:56:13 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol
[10:56:26 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They are partial to the Jacob tribes too
[10:56:34 AM] Sirius 17: but I did learn something about him that I didn't know, his love for animals
[10:56:42 AM] Sirius 17: this was surprising to me
[10:56:46 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes he loved German shepherds
[10:56:56 AM] Sirius 17: oh yeah, reminded me of Ripper lol
[10:57:26 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And any animal would feel the affection as you know and were he the monster the mainstream makes him out to be, the animals would have eschewed his presence
[10:58:07 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It was an effect of his experience of the humiliation suffered by Germany which then caused him to disown the banks
[10:58:21 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: then Germany flourished and the 'empires' got jealous
[10:58:38 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This caused WW2 and the Poles massacres of Sudeten Germans
[10:58:46 AM] Sirius 17: but I can see how he got possessed by the 'Jew' meme and felt the only way to get rid of them was to exterminate them.
This in no way excuses him, but shows you how even his animal loving nature got compromised as he divided himself from the very people he was killing, as in an US vs THEM meme.
[10:59:04 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I know this from personal experience as I grew up with ww2 survivors remember
[10:59:22 AM] Sirius 17: yes
[10:59:40 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There were many 'Hitlers' then after he got some power he also was drugged a lot by quack personal doctors
[11:00:05 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Goehring liked to hunt and kill hundreds of animals as trophies for example
[11:00:14 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hitler was abhorred by that
[11:00:24 AM] Sirius 17: yes and I also think the occult Nazi's got a hold of him and instilled their own propaganda into his thinking
[11:00:45 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The 'Jew' in my post is synonymous with todays 'banker' period
[11:00:50 AM] Sirius 17: yes sick bastard this Goehring
[11:01:31 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So the historical retelling in this film I support, but not the conclusions of national resurgence
[11:02:02 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You can reply to this post with this as a sort of clarification if you like
[11:02:03 AM] Sirius 17: yes just like IS.IS, Nazi Germany probably attracted really mentally sick individuals just as they do today
[11:03:00 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Indeed and from 1941 Hitler became mentally sick and drugged and his advisors took over and just as is the case today with all human governments
[11:03:51 AM] Sirius 17: Eichmann comes to mind as one of the sickos
[11:04:00 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hitler himself became a puppet, even though he could overrule his war advisors about Russia etc at times because of the mutual mistrust and backstabbings
[11:04:36 AM] Sirius 17: they used his charisma to hold the masses, just like modern political 'puppets' of today
[11:04:48 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: In this video and elsewhere there are real holocaust survivors retelling their stories of having a theater and a swimming pool and pianos in some of their 'barracks'
[11:05:28 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Now if you run extermination camps as claimed, then you don’t let the victims play the piano and play theater for themselves or the wardens
[11:05:31 AM] Sirius 17: yes they took care of the artists and musicians quite well during the Holocaust
[11:06:05 AM] Sirius 17: other Jews were not so fortunate
[11:06:51 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The skeletal diseases in Auschwitz etc were Germany wide with the German population having no medicine for the Typhus plague; eating dead corpses etc
And after 'nice' Churchill bombed the civilian occupied major cities in Germany like Hamburg and Frankfurt into oblivion
[11:07:27 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes many Hebrew (not Jews lol) have many talents and are true cosmic citizens like everyone else
[11:08:21 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Also watch the science about zyklon gas
[11:08:53 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It causes blue pigmentation of the walls when used. The so called gas chambers show no blue discolouring
[11:09:16 AM] Sirius 17: I didn't know that, what were they using then in the gas chambers?
[11:09:41 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I am not saying some 1 million Hebrews and other 'undesirables' like the disabled and Romany gypsies and gay people and so on did not die in that war
Under Nazi auspices; but the mainstream history is very biased towards a victimization of the Jew
[11:09:50 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Zyklon gas
[11:10:27 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Watch the entire thing, but be warned I became physically ill seeing those kosher slaughtering of cows and lambs
[11:10:40 AM] Sirius 17: I have only watched half way through the Nazi video;
I am still trying to catch up with everything you posted while I was on vacation and doing it in a sort of backwards way, newest to oldest, so give me time
[11:11:00 AM] Sirius 17: yes I saw that part and I got sick too, that is where I had to stop
[11:11:06 AM] Sirius 17: and take a break
[11:11:07 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well the more recent is more appropriate than this 'war history retelling movie'
[11:11:13 AM] Sirius 17: I simply cannot handle it
[11:11:30 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I almost fainted, knowing they are torturing ETs
[11:11:51 AM] Sirius 17: yes I got lightheaded too and it made me not want to eat meat anymore
[11:12:22 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes circumcision is human body mutilation and nothing else
[11:12:32 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As Jesus tells you in the GOT
[11:13:00 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This kosher abomination is why I posted this too
[11:13:33 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So share this from the relevant point as a reply please
[11:13:49 AM] Sirius 17: well I admit I bought into the whole kosher/cleanliness meme of it myself, this is what is being taught to the masses, not just the Jewish/Hebrew masses either.
In the hospital they push circumcision as being healthier and it is total BS. I didn't know better then or I would not have allowed it with my son.
[11:14:45 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Of course it is a cultural memeplex, albeit from the 'devil'
[11:14:51 AM] Sirius 17: I didn't know the freaking rabbis sucked the penises of the babies either, that one almost made me vomit
[11:15:23 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well watch more and you will see from where this abomination and blood lust of the rabbis stems from
[11:15:27 AM] Sirius 17: but apparently it is perfectly acceptable in their culture, no one seems to question this
[11:15:44 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Then you will also understand just WHY the Jews were expelled from so many cities and places
[11:15:49 AM] Sirius 17: yes Baal worship going way back they said
[11:15:57 AM] Sirius 17: child sacrifice
[11:16:14 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes and even bloodletting of to be murdered children
[11:16:39 AM] Sirius 17: atrocities indeed
[11:16:42 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This 'belief' then derives from their Talmudic traditions as an excuse of misunderstood words in the OT
[11:16:53 AM] Sirius 17: yes I could see that clearly
[11:17:30 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is the 'Jew' I address with a commentary, yet supportive of the data supplied by this film, yet rejecting its nationalistic revival agenda
[11:17:59 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Jewish rabbi has the same mentality of the ISIS butchers
[11:18:23 AM] Sirius 17: yes seems so
[11:18:55 AM] Sirius 17: I saw the connect of Islam and the Hebrews and all their Kosher/Halal laws, makes sense
[11:19:26 AM] Sirius 17: both of them employ similar culling methods on cattle
[11:19:34 AM] Sirius 17: gross to the extreme
[11:19:46 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Once you see how clearly they despise any goyim or nonjew as no more than a slave or cattle and just as is written in the 'holy Quran' then you will see why I felt compelled to support the historical retelling of the Nazi rise to political power
[11:20:05 AM] Sirius 17: yes and treatment of women especially as cattle
[11:20:56 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is not just halal it is the hidden agenda of the Talmud and the Quran wanting and expecting no less than complete world domination and the extermination of all goyim and infidels
It IS the antichrist or antilogos agenda in the overarching sense as a human mode of perception and thinking using their 'source books' as justification for their genomulticides
[11:22:11 AM] Sirius 17: yes, sickos
[11:22:53 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You should watch all of it to see why I made this a Thuban platform of information
[11:23:52 AM] Sirius 17: well I tried but when I stopped watching it I was shaking all over and had to go lay down, I simply couldn't take anymore. I will try to finish it later perhaps. I am enjoying the Egyptian sexuality video much more Tonylove.
[11:24:28 AM] Sirius 17: it gives me a whole different feeling inside, if you get my drift
[11:24:33 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Put it on this holocaust thread and the oabs thread
[11:24:40 AM] Sirius 17: yes I am editing now
[11:24:47 AM] Sirius 17: spelling and such
[11:25:12 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You don’t have to watch it now. As said the sexy posts are more relevant right now
[11:25:49 AM] Sirius 17: lol good
[11:26:11 AM] Sirius 17: because that holocaust video is very non horny

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