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01-19-2010, 08:45 AM	#626​
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Thanks, and yeah I figured such as every movement can be thought of as an agenda, but I was more referring to the manipulation of others to cause suffering. It seems to me that those involved in that game are in an endless circle until they themselves stop the manipulation. Above/below, manipulate/manipulated, kinda of like how we farm animals so we get farmed. What type of being is a sphere of golden light (in this case about human size) that takes people to other planets in their dreams? Maybe and odd question but.. Did Angelic beings or archetypes all incarnate here over the last few hundred years? Like Tesla, Rife, Reich, Leedskalnin ect, all within that small time period.. I wonder because assuming we are not being lied to here as well , each one seemed to bring powerful tools of engineering and of healing to our consciousness, both for our body (rife) and for Gaia (reich). If so... how come this all happened within that time period? Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Dear Phtha! The agenda behind the agenda stops with the origin of all agendas, first cause, prime mover, the Alpha-Beginning, the Word (John.1.1) or a similar labeling being reached or 'discovered'. This Prime mover is YOU in noTime, say defined in scientific terms as a quanta count of Now-Times of the order of 1.8 trillion trillion trillion trillion AGO. 1 second is made up of 3 thousand million billion trillion of those same timequanta. AA Last edited by Phtha; 01-19-2010 at 08:50 AM.
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01-19-2010, 09:04 AM	#627​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by halebox If we are trying to remember who we are is that referring to our very fist incarnation or all incarnations? If we have some will or choice between lives to choose who we reincarnate as or who family members will be then before our very first incarnation who's will was it to create me? Or was I always here? If my soul is infinite in the future was it infinite in the past? Hi Halebox! In the beginning there was only you in NoTime and in NoSpace. You are as old as the universe InTime and InSpace. Being the LONELY One, you decided to become Many to BE not One BUT A FAMILY. To do this you had to separate yourself into the Real You and an Unreal You. You used spacetime as the Mirror to do this. SPACETIME=MIRROR=SPIRIT=19+16+9+18+9+20=91. So relative to YOU in NoTimeSpace you became REAL as Halebox in InTimeSpace but YOU so became UNREAL relative to Halebox as YOU in the InSpaceTime of the created material universe. You then find yourself living lifetimes and experiencing as Halebox, as the mosquito on the leaf, as Neanderthal Man, as the Alpha Reptilian and as the Beta Andromedean and as the mountain Mount Everest what it means to exist in a material creation, based on 'Natural Laws'. YOU created those 'Natural Laws' via your Intelligence in the NoTimeSpace, by definition infinite; but in your creation of 'trapping your eternity' in something finite you had to design those 'Natural Laws' on principles and antiprinciples allowing you to 'pull off' this major trick of asymptotically being Infinite within something expanding finitely towards the infinite as a Oneness or Unity. Will you agree that a young child should not be worried about on a spiritual level and treated as an equal as an adults soul path? Meaning they chose this incarnation and everything that comes with it and the parent has his own path. 'Let the children come to me. Theirs is the kingdom of heaven!'; said the One who truly KNOWS. The children have a much easier time to remember where they come from than the 'grown ups' who by their own choices have decided to follow the groupminds of their peers and as defined by their rulers and regulators. Does the wall of knowledge end with council of Thuban? What lies between the council and the One/Source? The wall ends with the LOGOS. The Thuban Council serves the Logos as the 24 elders or ancient ones. The LOGOS serves the LOVE-ENERGY of the Source as its very definition. Is all "magic" science? No, there are tricks and there is omni-science, multiD science in harmony with a 4D spacetime core and its interD extensions. There is no such thing as super-natural. Were you well read in all these areas before your contact with the Thuban? No and I am 'well read' only in a few fields of speciality. I am very ignorant and underinformed on many many topics and much less 'well read' than you in your 'fields of nous' or those of everyone else. All shards opf God are geniuses or talents pr whatever you llike to term it. Source is NOT inadequate in any form of manner. Appearances often deceive the perceiver. If so is that why you were picked to pass on this advanced knowledge? (03) Jesus says: (1) "If those who lead you say to you: ‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’ then the birds of the sky will precede you. (2) If they say to you: ‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you. (3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you." (4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father. (5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty." Abraxas
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01-19-2010, 09:08 AM	#628​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Nebula9D Thank you. So every Being' purpose is to link back to the Prime Source = Love Vibratory Resonance = ALL That is. I am in the Love of The ALL and ALL love is in Me. That is All! There is Nothing to Learn, but Remembrance! Once You have remembered, you will know what you wish to learn, share and Do to honour yourself in two places simultaneously - in NoTimeSpace as the ONE and ONLY as THE COLLECTIVE WHOLENESS AND and InSpaceTime as ONE amongst MANY and as FAMILY of all the ONES who HAVE REMEMBERED. AA
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01-19-2010, 09:19 AM	#629​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Jonah Abrax, So.. this new archetypical configuration... has it manifested as a he/she or a she/he? Can you say what the events on this new timeline will be? Yes the 'Cosmic Christening' has occurred in the New Universal Archetype for the StarHuman Template being defined. Its physical manifestation is the Gaian Rebirth. Iow the AdamEve of the prespacetime creation has UNIFIED the Separation of the Adam+Eve archetype within the spacetime creation in its AdamEve+EveAdam blueprint within the spacetime creation. The original Maleness of the Creator-Mind and the original Femaleness of the Creation-Body has blended with its Image to allow the Old (-)Mind to become a (-)MindBody(+) and allow the Old (+)Body to become a (+)BodyMind(-) then mirrored within spacetime in HEShe and SHEHe in the New Man and the New Woman Androgeny of the 2nd and 3rd Orders. AA
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01-19-2010, 09:21 AM	#630​
Nebula9D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gaia Posts: 107	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas That is All! There is Nothing to Learn, but Remembrance! Once You have remembered, you will know what you wish to learn, share and Do to honour yourself in two places simultaneously - in NoTimeSpace as the ONE and ONLY as THE COLLECTIVE WHOLENESS AND and InSpaceTime as ONE amongst MANY and as FAMILY of all the ONES who HAVE REMEMBERED. AA Yes Indeed: I'm in complete resonance: Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas The one you are looking for is already here, within yourself. There are many Elijahs and Moses's and Messiahs on this planet right now. All of their messages carry meaning as Data provided and shared. The significance is the MIRROR. YOU are a MIRROR, I am a MIRROR, all others are MIRRORS; your child and pet are MIRRORS. How do the mirrors communicate? There once IS a MIRROR as pure as can be - Because this MIRROR remembered HIMHERSELF , this MIRROR gave a present to the universe without from within. This was the only thing the universe without did not have as the universe within - SELF-REMEMBRANCE in SelfReflection. This MIRROR so was the original ONE to assume the task to MIRROR himherself in the MANY to allow the Universe of ONE to become a Universe of MANY - Eternity became the timeline to bring this to pass. Namaste Last edited by Nebula9D; 01-19-2010 at 09:34 AM.
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01-19-2010, 09:35 AM	#631​
Raven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Void Posts: 49	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Thank you Abraxis, for your lovely reply. I am feeling very 'clear' atm. Also very tired, need to wake up in 4.5 hours. I would love to stay up all night and resonate more with this thread, but dreamtime calls Love, Raven
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01-19-2010, 09:42 AM	#632​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Phtha Thanks, and yeah I figured such as every movement can be thought of as an agenda, but I was more referring to the manipulation of others to cause suffering. It seems to me that those involved in that game are in an endless circle until they themselves stop the manipulation. Above/below, manipulate/manipulated, kinda of like how we farm animals so we get farmed. What type of being is a sphere of golden light (in this case about human size) that takes people to other planets in their dreams? This is your own merkabah Phtah with a diameter the Sqrt(5)=X+Y for Y the Golden Mean and X=Phi and encompassing the Pythagorean Octagon. Maybe and odd question but.. Did Angelic beings or archetypes all incarnate here over the last few hundred years? Like Tesla, Rife, Reich, Leedskalnin ect, all within that small time period.. I wonder because assuming we are not being lied to here as well , each one seemed to bring powerful tools of engineering and of healing to our consciousness, both for our body (rife) and for Gaia (reich). If so... how come this all happened within that time period? You may term these identities as angelic beings or as alien walk-ins or as inspired humanoids. They all are Rememberers and brought their knowledge and experiences under the difficulties and individual encumbrances encountered by the human incarnation. All are souls and shards of the Creator and just to BE in human incarnation to experience physical separation of the unifying spirit represents a most honourable act for the 'recallers' to engage in. The 3D human space embodiment is rather like an imprisonment for the soul; therefore you sleep and dream and therefore the incarnations have continued in the linear sense, expecting the graduation of the 3D vessel into its 4D expression. Then the soul's journeys and experiences in embodiment will no longer be experienced as imprisonment; yet the soul's desires to partake in the physical sensations can continue. Glorious adventures await the hybrid starhuman embodiments. AA
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01-19-2010, 10:15 AM	#633​
iainl140285 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 974	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Hi nebula9! John.1.1 ((KJV only). 'In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God!" 'In the Beginning was the Logos of the Definition and the Definition was with the Source-Energy and the Logos was the Source-Energy'. The Thuban Council, in its fuction of retranslators of archetypes then declares: Quantum Relativity links the metrics of Einsteinian Relativity to their original metaphysical cosmogenesis. Theistic- and Spiritual archetypes become a consequence of magnetocharged superbranes as wormhole singularities 'before' spacetime creation as progenitors for inertia. LOVE is a VIBRATORY RESONANCE described in a GAUGE SOURCESINK-PHOTON in its supersymmetric selfcoupling under modular duality and which can be defined in its own resonance eigenstate as: E*=kT*=hf*=hc/λ*=m*c²=1/e* for Unity E*e*=1 and its coupling parameters. Energy*=Heterotic Supermembrane HE(8x8)=EpsEss =√{2πGome2/4αhce2}=[me/mP]/2e√α=GODDOG=DOGGOD This is the selfstate for a love vibratory resonance, which created the universe! AA Howdy. If the thuBAN council are "RE-TRANSLATERS of archetypes". what is the difference of THEIR/YOUR interpretations and that of the Church on the bible say? Or the Mayan texts? Summerian texts? You C my point ... A chance to manipulate is present. People want information so badly many will fail to take a step back and think about what has been shown to them. Here is another perspective for ALL following this thread. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...593#post224593
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01-19-2010, 10:58 AM	#634​
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by iainl140285 People want information so badly many will fail to take a step back and think about what has been shown to them. That is likely true, but isn't that their problem? At least on this forum one should be predisposed to caution. A..
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01-19-2010, 12:28 PM	#635​
Malletzky Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It doesn't matter any more Posts: 534	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Just wanted to share something very strange. I just feel it has to do with this issue and this thread, so Abrax, I apologise if this is not the case. I would rather ask for "your" point of view here! Yesterday evening, still 18.01.2010, I decided once again do a short meditation and ask "me/my higher self/my guidance/the creator" abouth this particular date. It worked well on the begning of this year, when I asked for guidance and was able to experience three extraordinary dreams/visions (described in the Thread "the concept of the unification")... ...so I said to me why not, it's very well worth of asking. Well, to my astonishment, I received a very, very unusual dream/vision...This is what I experienced, and I know it could sound a bit weird (but not for me, as I got my message): ---------------------------------------------------------------- Two came and acted as one. They showed me “the new” and “convinced” me to “buy” it, which I agreed. Later, both of them came again and acted as one again. They brought “the new”, but I recognised that they brought “the old”. Nevertheless, I “paid” the required, as this was the agreement. So I stood there and “examined” the supposed “new”, which was actually “the old”. The more I examined it, the more I knew that I don’t want it. I felt that “the two”, which acted as “one”, deceived me. The more I examined it, the “older” it became. Until I realised that NO, this is not what I was supposed to “buy”. This was not the part of the agreement. Then come one and we were “two” that acted as “one”. The other one that came, he brought a key. This key should be able to open a "gate", which leaded to “someone” where both of us, acting as “one”, could “complain” about “the old”. So we as “one” went “there” and saw that there are also some other there in front of a "gate"...but they had no key to open the gate. Just as I wanted to pull out my key and tell the other that we could all pass thru that gate and go to "that someone", I saw that the other manipulated another gate and were able to pass thru. Both of us that acted as “one” wanted to join them, as we suddenly realised that they manipulated another gate, which would only be detour to "that someone”. So “I/we” stepped back and decided to use our key to open the real gate, knowing that “that someone” is already expecting us. ------------------------------------------------------------- And here at that point, I woke up... Anyway, I'm sure that I understand the "message"...but I still need to "feel" about it. malletzky Last edited by Malletzky; 01-19-2010 at 12:32 PM.
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01-19-2010, 12:41 PM	#636​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Yes the 'Cosmic Christening' has occurred in the New Universal Archetype for the StarHuman Template being defined. Its physical manifestation is the Gaian Rebirth. Iow the AdamEve of the prespacetime creation has UNIFIED the Separation of the Adam+Eve archetype within the spacetime creation in its AdamEve+EveAdam blueprint within the spacetime creation. The original Maleness of the Creator-Mind and the original Femaleness of the Creation-Body has blended with its Image to allow the Old (-)Mind to become a (-)MindBody(+) and allow the Old (+)Body to become a (+)BodyMind(-) then mirrored within spacetime in HEShe and SHEHe in the New Man and the New Woman Androgeny of the 2nd and 3rd Orders. AA You mean the FALSE 'Cosmic Christening' Oficial disclosure 1, MCEO Guardian Alliance, Interdimensional Alliance of Free Worlds http://www.azuritepress.com/New%20Co...summary_2.html for the rest of the disclosure During the Load-Out Evacuation Cycle “200-year window” of open Ascension Star-Gates, will anyone who chooses to participate in Silver Seed Healing technologies be able to reclaim the ability of atomic Transfiguration for physical-biological Transmigration “Slide-Orb” Ascension to Higher Earth? This is a “time-sensitive” question. During the Illuminati “Alpha-Omega/ Toral Rift Time Rip Alignment” peak of December 21, 2012, certain presently-dormant Metatronic “Alpha-Omega” Codes will activate within Earth’s Encryption Lattice, Halls of Amenti Star-Gates and geomagnetic field, initiating the third inorganic time-acceleration of Earth’s “wobble,” “precession of the equinox” cycle and two-thirds of Earth’s Encryption Lattice. Activation of the Metatronic Alpha-Omega Codes will cause the Illuminati Broadcast-NET in Earth’s geomagnetic field to partially blend with the corresponding Illuminati-NET of Parallel Earth, which will strengthen our Earth’s Illuminati-NET into an environmental electromagnetic Metatronic Time-Harness, within Earth’s geomagnetic field; this Metatronic Time-Harness is deceptively referred to, within some contemporary Death Science teachings, as the “Synthetic Christ Consciousness Grid” in Earth’s atmosphere. The activation of the Illuminati-NET Metatronic Time-Harness in Earth’s geomagnetic field will directly affect the DNA and existing biorhythms of all life-forms on Earth through the Epigenetic Overlay. The greater quantum of the planetary Metatronic Time-Harness will override the smaller quantum of the existing Encryption Lattice, BPR and Epigenetic Overlay configurations of biological life-forms — and of the matter-base entrapped within the Metatronic Time-Harness — creating an automatic, environmentally induced inorganic time-acceleration/ vibration increase, Encryption Lattice BPR-deceleration/ drop, and corresponding biological-atomic Co-resonant Disharmonic Alignment with the Alpha-Omega Fall Path. The Illuminati’s 2012 Alpha-Omega Time-Harness/ “False Christ Consciousness Grid” activation will engage the biological-atomic structure to biochemically ensnare the embodied conscious awareness into the “perceptual harness” of Illuminati Broadcast-NET transmissions, and will cause the DNA Template and Encryption Lattice to engage the “Fibonacci spiral expansion” of the Metatronic Code. Once the Metatronic Code engages Fibonacci spiral expansion to the “55-Blending Ratio” within the Encryption Lattice, and creates corresponding Merkaba Field “55-speed acceleration,” the atomic structure and biological anatomy fall under the subjugation and dominion of the planetary Metatronic Alpha-Omega Time-Harness. At the point of activation of the “Metatronic 55-Blending Ratio” within the Encryption Lattice and DNA Template, any previously existing organic potential for biological passage through natural Ascension Star-Gates is permanently lost through critical-mass damage to the Encryption Lattice, DNA Template, chemical DNA and Epigenetic Overlay. With activation of the “Metatronic 55-Blending Ratio” the “Common-man Blended DNA Mutation” becomes permanent, and human DNA becomes permanently transformed from that of the original eternal-life Angelic Human species genome, into the inorganic finite-life genetic imprint of a new Illuminati-Leviathan mutant-hybrid-human Fall-species, predestined to temporary subjugated dominance, and intended eventual extermination, by the Illuminati-Elder races to which its mutated Encryption Lattice is connected. If the consciousness is ensnared within a biology that engages activation of the “Metatronic 55-Blending Ratio,” the conscious-spirit will become entrapped within the Alpha-Omega Fall Alignment of the “False Christ Consciousness Grid” within Earth’s geomagnetic field — even following death of the physical body. No biological life-form on Earth would be spared this 2012–2013 environmentally induced biochemical-spiritual holocaust and resultant De-evolutionary Fall Path Alignment — the intention of the Illuminati Master Plan — if it were not for the intervention efforts of the MCEO–Krystal River Guardians. During the Illuminati “Alpha-Omega/ Toral Rift Alignment” peak of the December 21, 2012 solstice, the MCEO–Krystal River Guardians will synchronize activation of their “Silver Seed Host Grid,” called the “Stardust Silver Seed Ascension Grid” of eternal-life Krystal-Consciousness, with the Illuminati’s Metatronic Time-Harness/ False Christ Consciousness Grid. Activation of the Genuine Ascension Path “Stardust Grid” will engage one-third of Earth’s Encryption Lattice and BPR with the organic, slower-moving time cycles of the Higher Earth Aurora Silver Seed Ascension Star-Gates; this engagement will remain until 2230 AD. There is nothing the Illuminati Force can do to prevent or override the direct intervention of the Guardians’ Stardust Silver Seed Ascension Grid; the Illuminati Force will discover the truth of this reality when they find that the Cataclysmic Pole Shift of Earth, which they are currently predicting for 2013–2015, does not occur as they plan. The Illuminati-Elder Force “Alpha-Omega False God-Head” will also discover around 2976 AD that their Master Plan Prime Objective of creating the Death Star Black Hole Universe is also doomed to fail, because in 2976 AD the Parallel Milky Way Alpha Black Hole System explodes — as an energetic consequence to their own actions — even before the Death Star Solar System is created. Eternal-life First-Creation “has a way of taking care of itself…eternally,” and this is why the Cosmos “simply allows”; this is a lesson that Illuminati Fall-groups everywhere would do well to learn. That which is eternal, remains eternal, and that which is not simply eventually destroys itself. Unquote Do you believe in Karma Abraxinas? Cheers
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01-19-2010, 01:24 PM	#637​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by iainl140285 Howdy. If the thuBAN council are "RE-TRANSLATERS of archetypes". what is the difference of THEIR/YOUR interpretations and that of the Church on the bible say? Or the Mayan texts? Summerian texts? You C my point ... A chance to manipulate is present. People want information so badly many will fail to take a step back and think about what has been shown to them. Here is another perspective for ALL following this thread. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...593#post224593 And Here; for some SANITY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas Howdy iainl! Should you compare the translations and interpretations you might observe the differences. AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-19-2010 at 01:37 PM.
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01-19-2010, 01:27 PM	#638​
JesterTerrestrial Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ontario, Earth, Milky Way, Love, Infinity x2 Posts: 5,267	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) So whats new today abraxasinas?! Anything important on the agenda! I have lots on mine that involves DISCLOSURE! Is this something your council is working towards and if so how? and if not why? Peace JT
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01-19-2010, 01:27 PM	#639​
Myplanet2 In The Mists Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,133	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Malletzky Just wanted to share something very strange. I just feel it has to do with this issue and this thread, so Abrax, I apologise if this is not the case. I would rather ask for "your" point of view here! Yesterday evening, still 18.01.2010, I decided once again do a short meditation and ask "me/my higher self/my guidance/the creator" abouth this particular date. It worked well on the begning of this year, when I asked for guidance and was able to experience three extraordinary dreams/visions (described in the Thread "the concept of the unification")... ...so I said to me why not, it's very well worth of asking. Well, to my astonishment, I received a very, very unusual dream/vision...This is what I experienced, and I know it could sound a bit weird (but not for me, as I got my message): ---------------------------------------------------------------- Two came and acted as one. They showed me “the new” and “convinced” me to “buy” it, which I agreed. Later, both of them came again and acted as one again. They brought “the new”, but I recognised that they brought “the old”. Nevertheless, I “paid” the required, as this was the agreement. So I stood there and “examined” the supposed “new”, which was actually “the old”. The more I examined it, the more I knew that I don’t want it. I felt that “the two”, which acted as “one”, deceived me. The more I examined it, the “older” it became. Until I realised that NO, this is not what I was supposed to “buy”. This was not the part of the agreement. Then come one and we were “two” that acted as “one”. The other one that came, he brought a key. This key should be able to open a "gate", which leaded to “someone” where both of us, acting as “one”, could “complain” about “the old”. So we as “one” went “there” and saw that there are also some other there in front of a "gate"...but they had no key to open the gate. Just as I wanted to pull out my key and tell the other that we could all pass thru that gate and go to "that someone", I saw that the other manipulated another gate and were able to pass thru. Both of us that acted as “one” wanted to join them, as we suddenly realised that they manipulated another gate, which would only be detour to "that someone”. So “I/we” stepped back and decided to use our key to open the real gate, knowing that “that someone” is already expecting us. ------------------------------------------------------------- And here at that point, I woke up... Anyway, I'm sure that I understand the "message"...but I still need to "feel" about it. malletzky Very much what I "see" when I look, except for the elucive identity of the "other" one of two as one. However, I always enjoy new (old) perspectives, for the opportunity to see newly (in the old way).
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01-19-2010, 01:51 PM	#640​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Malletzky Just wanted to share something very strange. I just feel it has to do with this issue and this thread, so Abrax, I apologise if this is not the case. I would rather ask for "your" point of view here! Yesterday evening, still 18.01.2010, I decided once again do a short meditation and ask "me/my higher self/my guidance/the creator" abouth this particular date. It worked well on the begning of this year, when I asked for guidance and was able to experience three extraordinary dreams/visions (described in the Thread "the concept of the unification")... ...so I said to me why not, it's very well worth of asking. Well, to my astonishment, I received a very, very unusual dream/vision...This is what I experienced, and I know it could sound a bit weird (but not for me, as I got my message): ---------------------------------------------------------------- Two came and acted as one. They showed me “the new” and “convinced” me to “buy” it, which I agreed. Later, both of them came again and acted as one again. They brought “the new”, but I recognised that they brought “the old”. Nevertheless, I “paid” the required, as this was the agreement. So I stood there and “examined” the supposed “new”, which was actually “the old”. The more I examined it, the more I knew that I don’t want it. I felt that “the two”, which acted as “one”, deceived me. The more I examined it, the “older” it became. Until I realised that NO, this is not what I was supposed to “buy”. This was not the part of the agreement. Then come one and we were “two” that acted as “one”. The other one that came, he brought a key. This key should be able to open a "gate", which leaded to “someone” where both of us, acting as “one”, could “complain” about “the old”. So we as “one” went “there” and saw that there are also some other there in front of a "gate"...but they had no key to open the gate. Just as I wanted to pull out my key and tell the other that we could all pass thru that gate and go to "that someone", I saw that the other manipulated another gate and were able to pass thru. Both of us that acted as “one” wanted to join them, as we suddenly realised that they manipulated another gate, which would only be detour to "that someone”. So “I/we” stepped back and decided to use our key to open the real gate, knowing that “that someone” is already expecting us. ------------------------------------------------------------- And here at that point, I woke up... Anyway, I'm sure that I understand the "message"...but I still need to "feel" about it. malletzky Hi malletzky! A very intriguing dream. You see the POLARISATION has begun. What is Old and what is New? Is The Source Changing or is it constant and if constant in what way is the Prime Source constant, yet allowing to change. It will not be easy to decipher this. Is Abraxas or Abrasax a 'God' of the Nazis or did the Nazi's misuse an archetype? 'By their fruits you will discern the spirits'. Everyones PERSONAL ARMAGEDDON has begun. Anyone knowing of the Thuban Data is in the 'fire' - as said in the post to bigmo and reproduced here since the 18th of January, 2010. The picture below is a 'Gnostic Charm' - the Nazis and the PTB of course are very familiar with the gnostic cosmology and Do and have used it throughout the human history. This cosmology are archetypes of the LOGOS, the Rooster of the Insights harmonizing the Light and the Darkness. AA Engraving from an Abrasax stone. As a god Epiphanius (Haer. 69, 73 f.) appears to follow partly Irenaeus, partly the lost Compendium of Hippolytus.[4] He designates Abrasax more distinctly as "the power above all, and First Principle," "the cause and first archetype" of all things; and mentions that the Basilidians referred to 365 as the number of parts (mele) in the human body, as well as of days in the year. The author of the appendix to Tertullian De Praescr. Haer. (c. 4), who likewise follows Hippolytus's Compendium,[5] adds some further particulars; that 'Abraxas' gave birth to Mind (nous), the first in the series of primary powers enumerated likewise by Irenaeus and Epiphanius; that the world, as well as the 365 heavens, was created in honour of 'Abraxas;' and that Christ was sent not by the Maker of the world but by 'Abraxas.' Nothing can be built on the vague allusions of Jerome, according to whom 'Abraxas' meant for Basilides "the greatest God" (De vir. ill. 21), "the highest God" (Dial. adv. Lucif. 23), "the Almighty God" (Comm. in Amos iii. 9), and "the Lord the Creator" (Comm. in Nah. i. 11). The notices in Theodoret (Haer. fab. i. 4), Augustine (Haer. 4), and 'Praedestinatus' (i. 3), have no independent value. It is evident from these particulars that Abrasax was the name of the first of the 365 Archons, and accordingly stood below Sophia and Dynamis and their progenitors; but his position is not expressly stated, so that the writer of the supplement to Tertullian had some excuse for confusing him with "the Supreme God." [edit] As an Aeon With the availability of primary sources, such as the those in Nag Hammadi library, the identity of Abrasax remains unclear. The Holy Book of the Great Invisible Spirit, for instance, refers to Abrasax as an Aeon dwelling with Sophia and other Aeons of the Pleroma in the light of the luminary Eleleth. In several texts, the luminary Eleleth is the last of the luminaries (Spiritual Lights) that come forward, and it is the Aeon Sophia, associated with Eleleth, who encounters darkness and becomes involved in the chain of events that leads to the Demiurge's rule of this world, and the salvage effort that ensues. As such, the role of Aeons of Eleleth, including Abrasax, Sophia, and others, pertains to this outer border of the Pleroma that encounters the ignorance of the world of Lack and interacts to rectify the error of ignorance in the world of materiality.
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01-19-2010, 01:57 PM	#641​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial So whats new today abraxasinas?! Anything important on the agenda! I have lots on mine that involves DISCLOSURE! Is this something your council is working towards and if so how? and if not why? Peace JT What's New Jester Terresestrial?! Have you any news? The Council of Thuban has no new disclosures, which have not yet been stated at this point in time. We are working towards the next disclosure on March 28th, 2011. Your agendas of disclosure are surely welcomed on forums such as this one. Peace be to you also! AA
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01-19-2010, 02:03 PM	#642​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion You mean the FALSE 'Cosmic Christening' Oficial disclosure 1, MCEO Guardian Alliance, Interdimensional Alliance of Free Worlds http://www.azuritepress.com/New%20Co...summary_2.html for the rest of the disclosure During the Load-Out Evacuation Cycle “200-year window” of open Ascension Star-Gates, will anyone who chooses to participate in Silver Seed Healing technologies be able to reclaim the ability of atomic Transfiguration for physical-biological Transmigration “Slide-Orb” Ascension to Higher Earth? This is a “time-sensitive” question. During the Illuminati “Alpha-Omega/ Toral Rift Time Rip Alignment” peak of December 21, 2012, certain presently-dormant Metatronic “Alpha-Omega” Codes will activate within Earth’s Encryption Lattice, Halls of Amenti Star-Gates and geomagnetic field, initiating the third inorganic time-acceleration of Earth’s “wobble,” “precession of the equinox” cycle and two-thirds of Earth’s Encryption Lattice. Activation of the Metatronic Alpha-Omega Codes will cause the Illuminati Broadcast-NET in Earth’s geomagnetic field to partially blend with the corresponding Illuminati-NET of Parallel Earth, which will strengthen our Earth’s Illuminati-NET into an environmental electromagnetic Metatronic Time-Harness, within Earth’s geomagnetic field; this Metatronic Time-Harness is deceptively referred to, within some contemporary Death Science teachings, as the “Synthetic Christ Consciousness Grid” in Earth’s atmosphere. The activation of the Illuminati-NET Metatronic Time-Harness in Earth’s geomagnetic field will directly affect the DNA and existing biorhythms of all life-forms on Earth through the Epigenetic Overlay. The greater quantum of the planetary Metatronic Time-Harness will override the smaller quantum of the existing Encryption Lattice, BPR and Epigenetic Overlay configurations of biological life-forms — and of the matter-base entrapped within the Metatronic Time-Harness — creating an automatic, environmentally induced inorganic time-acceleration/ vibration increase, Encryption Lattice BPR-deceleration/ drop, and corresponding biological-atomic Co-resonant Disharmonic Alignment with the Alpha-Omega Fall Path. The Illuminati’s 2012 Alpha-Omega Time-Harness/ “False Christ Consciousness Grid” activation will engage the biological-atomic structure to biochemically ensnare the embodied conscious awareness into the “perceptual harness” of Illuminati Broadcast-NET transmissions, and will cause the DNA Template and Encryption Lattice to engage the “Fibonacci spiral expansion” of the Metatronic Code. Once the Metatronic Code engages Fibonacci spiral expansion to the “55-Blending Ratio” within the Encryption Lattice, and creates corresponding Merkaba Field “55-speed acceleration,” the atomic structure and biological anatomy fall under the subjugation and dominion of the planetary Metatronic Alpha-Omega Time-Harness. At the point of activation of the “Metatronic 55-Blending Ratio” within the Encryption Lattice and DNA Template, any previously existing organic potential for biological passage through natural Ascension Star-Gates is permanently lost through critical-mass damage to the Encryption Lattice, DNA Template, chemical DNA and Epigenetic Overlay. With activation of the “Metatronic 55-Blending Ratio” the “Common-man Blended DNA Mutation” becomes permanent, and human DNA becomes permanently transformed from that of the original eternal-life Angelic Human species genome, into the inorganic finite-life genetic imprint of a new Illuminati-Leviathan mutant-hybrid-human Fall-species, predestined to temporary subjugated dominance, and intended eventual extermination, by the Illuminati-Elder races to which its mutated Encryption Lattice is connected. If the consciousness is ensnared within a biology that engages activation of the “Metatronic 55-Blending Ratio,” the conscious-spirit will become entrapped within the Alpha-Omega Fall Alignment of the “False Christ Consciousness Grid” within Earth’s geomagnetic field — even following death of the physical body. No biological life-form on Earth would be spared this 2012–2013 environmentally induced biochemical-spiritual holocaust and resultant De-evolutionary Fall Path Alignment — the intention of the Illuminati Master Plan — if it were not for the intervention efforts of the MCEO–Krystal River Guardians. During the Illuminati “Alpha-Omega/ Toral Rift Alignment” peak of the December 21, 2012 solstice, the MCEO–Krystal River Guardians will synchronize activation of their “Silver Seed Host Grid,” called the “Stardust Silver Seed Ascension Grid” of eternal-life Krystal-Consciousness, with the Illuminati’s Metatronic Time-Harness/ False Christ Consciousness Grid. Activation of the Genuine Ascension Path “Stardust Grid” will engage one-third of Earth’s Encryption Lattice and BPR with the organic, slower-moving time cycles of the Higher Earth Aurora Silver Seed Ascension Star-Gates; this engagement will remain until 2230 AD. There is nothing the Illuminati Force can do to prevent or override the direct intervention of the Guardians’ Stardust Silver Seed Ascension Grid; the Illuminati Force will discover the truth of this reality when they find that the Cataclysmic Pole Shift of Earth, which they are currently predicting for 2013–2015, does not occur as they plan. The Illuminati-Elder Force “Alpha-Omega False God-Head” will also discover around 2976 AD that their Master Plan Prime Objective of creating the Death Star Black Hole Universe is also doomed to fail, because in 2976 AD the Parallel Milky Way Alpha Black Hole System explodes — as an energetic consequence to their own actions — even before the Death Star Solar System is created. Eternal-life First-Creation “has a way of taking care of itself…eternally,” and this is why the Cosmos “simply allows”; this is a lesson that Illuminati Fall-groups everywhere would do well to learn. That which is eternal, remains eternal, and that which is not simply eventually destroys itself. Unquote Do you believe in Karma Abraxinas? Cheers Hi stardustaquarion! You wrote: "You mean the FALSE 'Cosmic Christening'" . Yes indeed I mean the 'False Cosmic Christening' as well as the 'True Cosmic Christening'. One cannot exist without the other before the unification. No, I don't believe in karma as a system of retribution. However 'what goes around comes around', as the saying goes. AA
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01-19-2010, 02:08 PM	#643​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Hi stardustaquarion! You wrote: "You mean the FALSE 'Cosmic Christening'" . Yes indeed I mean the 'False Cosmic Christening' as well as the 'True Cosmic Christening'. One cannot exist without the other before the unification. No, I don't believe in karma as a system of retribution. However 'what goes around comes around', as the saying goes. AA I admire your forthrightness Karma in my understanding is what goes around comes around or the law of reciprocity. Cheers I think I meet you in a past life, we seem to have been in opposite camps. Do you remember Sirius C?
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01-19-2010, 02:26 PM	#644​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion I admire your forthrightness Karma in my understanding is what goes around comes around or the law of reciprocity. Cheers I think I meet you in a past life, we seem to have been in opposite camps. Do you remember Sirius C? Stardustaquarion! I am in no 'opposite camp' to you now, nor have I been in the past as you perceive this past to be. These are your words not mine. Your stated and published and adhered to cosmology does not converge to the Thuban cosmology. You see or believe your learned wisdom to encompass that of Thuban, whilst I see it the other way around. It is only data to be shared and I do not belittle or denigrate your teaching and learning path in any way. I know that your heart is true and your desires and intents are noble and in integrity. Yes, I know of the 'Woman Sun' , the Brown Dwarf in the Sirian starsystem. There are legends and stories one can become familiar with then then extend in the fuction of the cocreativity. Peace be with you and may you continue to share your love and mind's intent in honour of the wisdom you carry and the understanding you possess within your heart. AA
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01-19-2010, 02:32 PM	#645​
iainl140285 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 974	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas And Here; for some SANITY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas Howdy iainl! Should you compare the translations and interpretations you might observe the differences. AA Thank you. But if the CIA are willing to edit their own Wiki pages, as are the Vatican Im sure any such group could do so. This will be my final observation ... Is the AA not the masonic representation of light and dark/shadow? The AA are often used as saviours .. Alcoholics Anonomys, The AA breakdown service Can you link to the post where you revealed info. on the 18/01? Thank U Regards
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01-19-2010, 02:38 PM	#646​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by iainl140285 Thank you. But if the CIA are willing to edit their own Wiki pages, as are the Vatican Im sure any such group could do so. This will be my final observation ... Is the AA not the masonic representation of light and dark/shadow? The AA are often used as saviours .. Alcoholics Anonomys, The AA breakdown service Can you link to the post where you revealed info. on the 18/01? Thank U Regards Sure iainl! Posts #1 and #566! AA
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01-19-2010, 02:40 PM	#647​
JesterTerrestrial Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ontario, Earth, Milky Way, Love, Infinity x2 Posts: 5,267	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas What's New Jester Terresestrial?! Have you any news? The Council of Thuban has no new disclosures, which have not yet been stated at this point in time. We are working towards the next disclosure on March 28th, 2011. Your agendas of disclosure are surely welcomed on forums such as this one. Peace be to you also! AA Oh just thinking about anti gravity experiments and figuring out how to start producing some interesting inventions that RA built. I don't really have an agenda. LOL I just kind of wake up and wing it! Its a daily operation Its like I have a higher dimensional form of turrets!!! i just holler out these random things PEACE FREEDOM TRUTH!!! Anyway. i am one being who currently lives on earth and has spent a lot of time in front of my computer reading and writing on this fourm! I like to learn, teaching and sharing is fun too! March 28 2011?? Whats wrong with now?! Please tell me more about this. Have a great day peace jt
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01-19-2010, 02:47 PM	#648​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial Oh just thinking about anti gravity experiments and figuring out how to start producing some interesting inventions that RA built. I don't really have an agenda. LOL I just kind of wake up and wing it! Its a daily operation Its like I have a higher dimensional form of turrets!!! i just holler out these random things PEACE FREEDOM TRUTH!!! Anyway. i am one being who currently lives on earth and has spent a lot of time in front of my computer reading and writing on this fourm! I like to learn, teaching and sharing is fun too! March 28 2011?? Whats wrong with now?! Please tell me more about this. Have a great day peace jt Dear jester for All! This date is simply 62 weeks from the January date. There will be a 'cutting off' of certain information leading then to another date in December. As said the Thuban elders know of the 'greater timeline' not the details of the co-evolution of the collective scenario of all on this planet and beyond. May I mention a 'disclosure' on the Hilary Clinton thread of Raskar as Ar for all to have a look at. AA
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01-19-2010, 02:58 PM	#649​
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902 Unified Serenity
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JesterTerrestrial Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ontario, Earth, Milky Way, Love, Infinity x2 Posts: 5,267

Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Dear jester for All! May I mention a 'disclosure' on the Hilary Clinton thread of Raskar as Ar for all to have a look at. AA thank you i will see if i can find that and have a look. Quote: This date is simply 62 weeks from the January date. There will be a 'cutting off' of certain information leading then to another date in December. What dose this mean? What is simply planed in 62 weeks from January? What kind of certiain information will be cut off? What what will be planed on this new date in December? Thanks for your replies. Quote: As said the Thuban elders know of the 'greater timeline' not the details of the co-evolution of the collective scenario of all on this planet and beyond. Interesting. What do they say is the greater time line events?

 

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01-19-2010, 03:10 PM	#651
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Unified Serenity This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902 Unified Serenity This is some interesting information....the numerology is outstanding

01-19-2010, 04:44 PM	#652
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Hi Abrax, Let me rephrase my question. How does our memory and consciousness work? Where is it located? Thanks, I'll keep trying because this is fun. Uncle John

01-19-2010, 05:03 PM	#653
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by BROOK This is some interesting information....the numerology is outstanding 777s mind never seizes to amaze me. Thank you for posting that Brooks, I was actually waiting for such things to start popping out. I hope that the people that are reading this thread take the time to read it also Blessings

01-19-2010, 05:11 PM	#654
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by mntruthseeker 777s mind never seizes to amaze me. Thank you for posting that Brooks, I was actually waiting for such things to start popping out. I hope that the people that are reading this thread take the time to read it also Blessings Very enlightening indeed...we can thank Unified Serenity for finding it, and posting the link..Thanks Unified

01-19-2010, 05:30 PM	#655
BlackLight43 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Morro Bay Posts: 10	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Thank you Abraxa for continuing this thread...so glad I asked for more! Blessings

01-19-2010, 05:33 PM	#656
ewhite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central, Pa. Posts: 60	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by BROOK Very enlightening indeed...we can thank Unified Serenity for finding it, and posting the link..Thanks Unified Good information indeed, I am not quite sure how it relates to the rest of this thread other than to take fire at the OP though. I feel that link is indeed a worthy topic for a separate thread entirely. I really do not want to see Avalon go down the same path as sites like ATS , let us all let go of our ego, if it resonates contribute, if not let us move on. Namaste -E

01-19-2010, 06:10 PM	#657
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by ewhite Good information indeed, I am not quite sure how it relates to the rest of this thread other than to take fire at the OP though. I feel that link is indeed a worthy topic for a separate thread entirely. I really do not want to see Avalon go down the same path as sites like ATS , let us all let go of our ego, if it resonates contribute, if not let us move on. Namaste -E Agreed, I'm sure Abrax being as smart as he is- knows exactly the numerology connected and as such probably designed it that way (his name) for who knows what reasons. Maybe he can explain. Abrax, what is your opinion of John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica/Hieroglyphic Monad?

01-19-2010, 06:23 PM	#658
wilsonericq7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 50	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Dear Abrax, My intention is to clarify our path as a group by first resolving what holds us back as individuals. In a balanced and unchallenged 3D experience (Eden) the mental and physical platforms are but mirrors of each other through the emotional platform experienced in real time. The emotional platform is the communication field between platforms, a checklist of sorts. In the example below, the experience is harmonious and without catalyst/action. Thoughts through feelings become things | Things through feelings reflect thoughts. In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love. This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group. Yet, this daily reality is hardly without catalysts/actions. When a catalyst occurs here in 3D, we hinder our progress and disrupt our healing/ascension process by not honoring this reflection between platforms. In the example below, the catalyst/action is displayed along with the changes within the experience. Notice the disharmony in the physical platform, the unbalanced nature of the emotional platform and the now challenged nature of the mental platform. Problem If I remember correctly, in order to move forward and learn from any experience one (non-separated individual) must move as a whole within themselves. Thus, any inhibitor/action used to counteract any catalyst must reflect through the emotional platform on both the physical and mental platforms congruently. Solution The above is a perfect solution to any problem/catalyst. No matter the catalyst, the inhibitor must be reflected free from blockages within either platform. You have stated “…The mental life is not so easy, as the experience of the mental world becomes the 'Egocentricity of the Human Mind’…The mental experiences of 'falling over' are not self corrective and self teaching as found in the physical life of the necessities.” I reflected here and recalled what most refer to as the chakras and more importantly what blocks the energy from flowing freely through them. Simply, one cannot move forward only on the physical platform and leave the mental platform behind; to do so would ignore the imbalance from the emotional platform. We were given the emotions to show us “how we are doing” with regard to the mental platform, if I remember correctly. If one wants to know their progress towards ascension, or quite simply how they are learning from their 3D experience, check your gut…as it were. If you feel higher amounts of energy (as there is no good or bad) on the emotional platform, check what might be causing the blockage. In a free flowing energetic state, high amounts of energy signal an imbalance within the 3D experience; and are an indication of a blockage for at least one of the platforms. Blockage Clearing the ‘old wise man’ from the mental platform reveals challenges similar to the toddler learning to walk in the physical platform; as different approaches will yield to success. As “…development of a harmonious…self disciplined human mind automatically balances and stabilizes the physical world with the mental world for a playground of the human spirit to express itself in its fullest extent of creativity, self-awareness and interconnectedness.” Namaste, Eric Last edited by wilsonericq7; 01-19-2010 at 11:22 PM.

01-19-2010, 09:16 PM	#659
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) I doubt very much that the information that Brooks provided us with, in any way shape or form, indicated that she was putting anyone down. No one insinuated that Abraxas was not knowledgable. Ewhite, this is not ATS and I feel that the people that have been here at this forum have the upper most respect for all the people. Anyone that is following a thread is entitled to their opinion and I didnt feel it was disrespectful. What it was, was encouraging to see that those of us that have our doubts on the meanings of any one of these postings, could actually feel that we are not alone with those doubts. There is 2 sides of every story, right ? Isnt that what a forum is all about ? So as far as I can see, EGO was not any part of the message brought over................777's message was brilliant and as I have followed 777s work for over a year, I know that 777 is never disresptful but instead absolutely brilliant. Nothing wrong with Brooks bringing it over here.

01-19-2010, 09:18 PM	#660
12DnAHelix Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 64	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Omni-Dimensional Multi-Universal Model of Cosmological Embryogenesis (multi-cosmosphere) is based on the seed of life, as I have perceived it there were 6 universes - it was a 36 dimensional structure; being spun out of 144000 faceted core; it is an 'Opaluminal Simulation'. Ask yourself what do 144000 day cycles, a "baktun" have to do with the solar system ? There has been the completion of 12 previous baktuns prior to this one's completion in either 2011 or 2012 - depending on whose chronology you side with. The Meso-American Long count Calendar (as opposed to the Tzolkin (galaxial?) & Haab (solar?)) are about synching with a larger structure than solely 'hunab ku' at center of galaxy; although this very well may be a 'stair-step' up the 'pyramid'. Is about 'synching' with core crystal at central axis of multiple universal cosmological genesis, the Mayan's knew about this - it is accessible via the mushrooms & 'huachuma' (sacred cactus) in peru ... as well as is communication with the 'Zol/Zuul/Zaoul' [[tZOLkin]]. Re: "Council of Thuban" I am still reviewing this thread, but this should be able to be confirmed; that the original stronghold homeworld of the grandfather dragons is actually in the Omicron Draconis star system. Here are my old a. drac writings from 1998 New Age Science Fiction: Alpha Draconian "channeling", 1998 http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=176740907335 --- The 12 DnA Strand Heart-Soul-Star Cosmic Mandala is supposed to be a 'gift', given to 'humanity' by a 'renegade faction of Alpha Draconians' - was in 1995; back then - they were supposedly a tangent within a tri-une known as the 'Andromedan-Orion-Draconian Alliance'. ((Alex Collier told me I was full of sh^t, back in 1999)) How it all began in 1995, description of my direct overhead flyover by a 'UFO' http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=160802362335 It supposedly had to do with some 'council' decision - the reason why they had to return to humanity knowledge that their ancestors may have been involved in taking away, and it was not the 'Thuban Council'. Back then, at least in 1995; the Alpha Draconian majority did not support or were against this taking place. I have suffered alot because of this 'stigma' ... As far as I understood it - it had to do with another council; possibly Lyran and a structure - not the 'Galactic Federation of Light' .. but an 'Interdimensional Association of Civilized Star Systems & Free / Sovereign Homeworlds'. Then from 'Andromedan-Orion-Draconian Alliance' it shifted into an Alpha Centauri-Sirian angle and they talked a lil bit of sh^t about the A-O-D alliance, then in 2005 shifted further into a larger structure which I am currently not at the liberty to discuss here in this thread - but it has to do with the 'Zol/Zuul/Zaoul'. Regarding Anna Hayes, I and a former friend met with her personally in May of 2000; she 'cursed' the mandala and I bet few of you know of the dynamics / circumstances that went down back then - why she changed her name, left Florida and actually Anna Hayes isn't the name she was born with. still have unresolved issues because of dynamics that went down back then, if you know her; send her my regards. Anyways, interesting stuff ... I'll work on catching up on these 'Thuban' threads, come on over and join in on the Nexus 2012 global synchronized meditation effort if you feel so inclined. Nexus 2012 global synchronized meditation http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8441 Kind Regards ... daniEL

01-19-2010, 10:32 PM	#661
ewhite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central, Pa. Posts: 60	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by mntruthseeker I doubt very much that the information that Brooks provided us with, in any way shape or form, indicated that she was putting anyone down. No one insinuated that Abraxas was not knowledgable. Ewhite, this is not ATS and I feel that the people that have been here at this forum have the upper most respect for all the people. Anyone that is following a thread is entitled to their opinion and I didnt feel it was disrespectful. What it was, was encouraging to see that those of us that have our doubts on the meanings of any one of these postings, could actually feel that we are not alone with those doubts. There is 2 sides of every story, right ? Isnt that what a forum is all about ? So as far as I can see, EGO was not any part of the message brought over................777's message was brilliant and as I have followed 777s work for over a year, I know that 777 is never disresptful but instead absolutely brilliant. Nothing wrong with Brooks bringing it over here. Agreed mn, and I am dearly sorry if I offended you in any way. 777's info is /was brilliant. My only point was this thread is named "Thuban Q&A," that was neither. The OP wether right, wrong, misguided or whatever has put forth a ton of effort and answered a TON of questions and has been very welcoming. I mean no disrespect to you, Brooks or anyone else trust me when I say this. I am truly sorry What is great about this place is there is really no "hijacking" you know, everyone on here seems to be well on their path and I enjoy it very much being able to discern topics on our own without being called a loon or satan or what have you. Keep up the good work and again I meant no disrespect to anyone. -E

01-19-2010, 10:33 PM	#662
12DnAHelix Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 64	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by THE eXchanger we believe, in 36 dimensions too ~ albeit, formed over 3 matriXes ~ 12D/12D/12D with both density/and, dimensions 12D/12d 24D/24d, and, then the 3rd matrix moving through 1D to9D/33d - 10d/34d, 11d/35d, 12d/36d (and, sitting with the ability to connect future, too) Hello eXchanger - You were one of the first people to send me a 'friend request' . It's nice to make your acquaintance. Some reason, I just shake my head 'no' when reading this - other than your overall agreement with a 36* dimensional structure. I am not talking about 'science fiction' though; I am talking about a structure which is actually directly perceivable - you just have to use the right lenses; which the mayans were very well schooled in. I don't believe in any '3 matrices' or 'densities' - I believe in nested subsets of continua within a 36* dimensional structure; I think there is a lot of what I personally would call 'new age gobbledygook' in these regards. Additionally, I believe in what is 'directly perceivable'; what I personally describe as being the 'Master Key Template of Divinity' - or the 'schematic model' & 'blueprint' that contains the form holding fields for the structure and is simultaneously woven through / underlies the entirety - at every level ... I've 'repped' ""Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality"" for years - since 1998, just been one of those ones hiding in the shadows so to speak... I find this thread to be rather confusing, but it is interesting My own advice would be to seek out the Zuul and 'Time Wave Lords', plus the 'Opaluminals'. At this point - based on personal 'Alpha Draconian' experience some 11+ years ago; I'd disregard Thuban - although perhaps they do deserve our gratitude - the renegades at least .. unless they really have something to say about the mandala, other than curses ... but I will give this information more than the brief glance I gave it when I posted my comment which this is in response to; which is basically the same quip I just posted. Maybe I should look back in and see what the 'Emerald Order' has been up to over the years, I've read Voyagers 1 & 2 years ago ..... Take Care. and =Peace= to you ..

01-19-2010, 11:27 PM	#663
12DnAHelix Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 64	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Hi 12DnAHelix! The Omicron Draconis starsystem in 4D spacetime is mirrored in a colocal 10D Omicron Draconis starsystem as a holographic Image. This holographic image then becomes Thubanese in 12D as an image of an image. Your GrandFather association bespeaks of great wisdom and you have intuited well. Yes, there is great value in Anna Hayes work, however ALL of her works are biased towards the feminine and so are in intrinsic archetypical disharmony. The complexity of her writings derive from the yin substituting as a shadow yang for the natural yang. The Thubanese material is the Perennial Philosophy extended, indeed. As such there is 'Nothing New under the Sun' - but the insights and interpretations of symbols are. Your 36D matrix is a threefoldedness of the 12D archetype. Extensions in multiples of 12 are possible but unneccessary, as the 36 finestructure finetunes in 12 sectors becoming tripartite; just as the 7-hierarchies in related systems. The universe is simulated in the form of its holographic- and holofractal underpinning nature. The key to it all becomes the tripartition to be rendered a quadruple partition as this will allow the timeconnector dimensions to become spacelike in normal vector extension. Linear time so can become looped. This is what is 'intuited' as a transition from 4th to 5th 'density'. Abrax Hello Abrax, Sorry for the delay in getting back over here, I don't think you have seen the 'Opaluminal Simulation' yet; but if your 'Thuban Council' is for real - perhaps you can speak to them in these regards. They should be able to confirm most of what I speak, if you are legit; and you have a strong connection. I have absolutely no idea what you mean or are saying in your initial response regarding 'Omicron Draconis'. But I will re-iterate my initial statement that the Original Stronghold Homeworld of the Grandfather -Winged- Dragons is in the 'Omicroin Draconis' star system. If anything, Alpha Draconis is a -FRONT-; and an Offshoot - Inquiry your 'COUNCIL'. Regarding the 'Voyagers Material'; at least back when I was affiliated with looking into it; I came to the conclusion that 'energetics that do not have the highest interests of the majority can work through highly advanced information as a smokescreen' ... is generally the function of a 'Haze'. I will take into my heart what you are saying, and see where it takes me; i'd like to see amends made personally. I saw the 'Opaluminal Simulation' pretty clearly, back in 2005; and it was a 6 universe ~ 36 dimensional structure being spun out of 144000 faceted core. ... and actually, supposedly 'Mandala' even contains 2-d cross section view I can understand the 'trine', it's importance; but that's not quite how I personally have seen it. Trine to me is Universal Life Force / Inherent Animating Intelligence / Master Key Template of Divinity ... the 'schematic' is clearly at the very least ''semi-visible'' and at the very most; some people can see it perfectly; visionary artists like Alex Grey & Luke Brown (spectraleyes.com) Regarding the '7' hierarchies, if you know anything; there are 7 sacred / galactic directions , 7 chakras (at least in established 'centuries old tradition'). ... the 6 pointed 'shatkona' has an 'invisible' direction 'center', as the 'seed of life' also is composed of 6 outer circles with the one in the center ... I believe that we exist within what I would personally call 'Epsilon Space'; which is curved, spheroidal, torsion based ... I don't intuit any 'transition'; to me; the conduit is already open and it has been for years now - it has taken many years to start to warm up ... either synchronize through the heart in alignment with higher mind and receive the download from the core, or be wiped off the face of the earth ... is choice humanity has to make, in that choice - assuming 'alignment' is the choice made collectively; the necessary things will begin to unfold from within each - and descend from above ... and it has to do with the Long Count aspect of the Calendar and what the Calandar is actually mirror-synching with ... it is above 'hunab ku' - galactic core center, is omni-dimensional multi-universal core ... 144000 is the master key # (BAKTUN) we have time beyond 2012 as far as I am concerned, out to about 2028 ... ... 'neo-civilization' ... regards, Daniel * By download from core, I mean become aligned with the naurally occurring cyclic changes that take place ... galaxial-solar-earth-human relationship, proper use of our understanding ... we are pretty close to the very edge of a very deep and dark chasm - we have been for many many years now .. but there is an invisible plank across it .. is a narrow path though (and it goes through the heart).

01-19-2010, 11:32 PM	#664
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) A big thanks for all the effort you put in to answering everyones questions friend Sirebard. I have a question about Leonard Horowitz=Hz=hurts and his 528hz frequency that everyone tuned into during the liveh20 concert which kicked off during a summer solstice. Is it truly a frequency of love or one of control? Also I'm of the opinion that the Greys and the Reptoids as understood in the conspiratorial terms is not by psyops. What is your opinion concerning this?

01-19-2010, 11:53 PM	#665
12DnAHelix Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 64	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Hi Steven! 1. The Lyrians are a plasmic lifeform, giving rise to the Pleiadians and so on in the most commonly composed scenario. HuH ? I don't think the 'Lyrans' are a 'Plasma Life Form'; I dunno know there Abraxasinas.. As far as I am aware, our 'simian life model' is 'lyran' and the 'elongated craniums' are also a Lyran trait. Malta & Dolichocephaloids * http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_malta.htm http://www.desertfoxoverland.co.uk/m...cephaloids.HTM * This is also the kind of stuff that the 'Sovereign Military Order of Malta' try and keep under wraps. The Dracz interfered in the project somehow, thinking that because this was once a seedworld of theirs; they could do whatever they damn well pleased - or perhaps agreements change over time. I am pretty sure that dynamics having to do with 'Rigel' also involve at least in some capacity the draco-reptilians .. there is alot more branching between star systems and lifeforms that resides on planets there than we give credence to .. Remember, the great hunter Orion was stung in his achilles tendon by a scorpion ... ancient war between 'Antares & Rigel' over 'EA' ... This is part of the reason why Alpha Dracz have to return 12 DnA Strand visual rep to humanity. It is a long story has to do with 'Ancestral Mass Karma' .. 'Soul Matrix Family Lines', but many of the statements I see you making; only raise further questions and cast doubt. I am not trying to be critical, just attempting to understand what it is you are really trying to tell us regarding this 'Thuban Council'. Because quite honestly, I really would like to know; this sh^t quite literally has ruined my life. Regards, -daniEL

01-20-2010, 12:13 AM	#666
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Nice post Eric, I resonate very closely with what you said. I too see how this planet can be a paradise on Earth with just a few changes to our electric thoughts and magnetic emotions. I have a hard time believing that all the suffering everywhere is here for our good and for the good of the Universe and beyond. Do we really need to experience suffering or would not just the idea of it be enough? I'd prefer to keep it phantom, like death being only an idea or phantom simply because of the fact of beingness or life. I'm still open to the possibility that all the suffering is for catalyst and for out benefit. Even if we did live here on Earth harmoniously in paradise our bodies would still decay, although I believe at a very slower rate then today, so suffering seems to be at least a part of our mission here.. ahh tis' a mystery to me as of yet. Quote: Originally Posted by wilsonericq7 Thoughts through feelings become things | Things through feelings reflect thoughts. In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love. This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group.

01-20-2010, 12:20 AM	#667
migp Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 30	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Hi Abraxasinas, Do you have any idea on how can I get a little more money here in this 3D dimension so I can have more avilable time to read this thread?. Seriously, why is that that is so difficult to preserve our physical bodies in this world, or reality?. I mean we need to work hard so we can pay for our expenses. Thanks,

01-20-2010, 01:18 AM	#668
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by BROOK This is some interesting information....the numerology is outstanding Hi guys! apparently there is some controversy for a post I did here...I'd like to clarify that I did not post the link, I only stated as above...that it was interesting, and the numerology was outstanding. I cannot see how that has anything to do with Ego...But I'm glad you all worked it out, and have figured out that I meant nothing by it...thank you Mindtruthseeker for seeing it for exactly what it was on anybody's behalf....as that is what this forum is about. And ewhite...don't sweat it...no disrespect taken Especially since I did not really post the link anyway...haha Quote: Originally Posted by Unified Serenity View Post This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902 Unified Serenity

01-20-2010, 07:59 AM	#669
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Unified Serenity This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902 Unified Serenity ABRAXAS(I)NAS = NAZI & the earthly council of THUBAN Abraxas is an alchemical phallic symbol of the solar god. The two serpents are our parents, the great dragons ursa major and ursa minor. The four horses are the four cardinal points of the Zodiac, aka Four horses of the Apocalypse. Notice Abraxas whip is 3 strands,giving us the occult number of 111 111 kabalistically is the name of the God Abraxas and the number of sudden death and destruction.Thuban is the power that removes the lesser flock,the weeds.Thule is where our english word Tool comes from. The tools of the hammer and sickle of the NAZI party.] The SS or 77 or 14 is the number of the material plain. Thuban was the driving force of the Nazi party.It is Thuban that the Pentagon ,designed as the symbol of man, draws it power from, to wage wars. Thuban is aligned with Mars the god of WAR. Thuban is synonymous with Thugs Thunder The thumb- These are all words and symbols of power Thuban corresponds to the 13th tarot trump card of death. Thuban is the sacrifice of Abraham's Ram in the bush Abraxas ( Shield), is the shield of protective wisdom, and the whip driving power of speech,like the house majority Whip . Intuition and swiftness of thought = Mercury. .Chistos 888 mentioned the use of the word shield in the media lately.Well here is that sheild of wisdom, to protect the initiate from all the BS The 8 spoke wheel seen on other Abraxas images,is a symbol of chaos magic, and the 8th fold path of the Dharma.ABRACADABRA Abraxas has another thread about 24 ancestors.The wheel in the abraxas image is 6 spoke which 360 which is 8 or infinity. In the Kabalah 24 is Mercury whose essence is 8,as in the 8 spoke wheel of Abraxas. Mecury is the messenger Tehuti,master of words and mathematics,he is the TRIXSTER. Abraxas starts his dialogue at night Night Kabalistically has a value of 97 97 means to capture or sieze suddenly The Thuban thread emerged with the rising of SIRIUS., annoucing the comming of light into the world. Well to deliver a message on the number 18th date, is to be in shadow,for 18 is equivalent to shadow.18 is the initiate falling through the looking glass,because he or she only see shadow,and not reflection. Sirius is the Dog star aka Egyptian Anpu, aka intuition ,that guides the soul through the underworld ,aka material plain.Intuition raises us from the horizontal, to the perpendicular.Fighting with the dog,keeps the Falcon below the horizon. ABRAXASINAS REPLIES! ABRAXAS=66=THUBAN=WOMAN=66=ANUBIS=FREEDOM=...D.I.Y . ABRAXAS-IN-AS=AS-IN-ABRAXAS ABRAXASINAS=ABRAXAS-NASI Now note the Mirror-Symmetry between the 'Good' (right-path) S=Swastika and the 'Evil' (left-path) Z=Sauswastika "left-facing" swastika on a Buddhist temple in Korea. The swastika in the decorative Hindu form The 'Nationale Sozialistische Partei Deutschland's'=NAZI Party USED the Sacred Symbolism of the Indian Sauswastika in its Mirror Expression. Hitler, as 'Agartha's Prophet' and 'Luminari' wayshower, copied the Swastika in direct opposition to Shamballa's Sauswastika as symbol of the 'Illuminati of the Jews'. Adolf Hitler, the Austrian; was 'groomed' by 'The Brotherhood of the Snake' {See the Abraxas photo as the serpentine legs} to 'Play' the Elijah archetype to bring about the 'Second Coming' and so the ''Tausendjaehrige Reich" the 'Millennium'. So S<->Z Gemstone carved with Abrasax, obverse and reverse. Engraving from an Abrasax stone. Long before this postAtlantean manifestation of the archetypology manifested; the Egyptian legacy understood the Symbolism of the Uraeus, of the sacred Serpent in the right solar eye of Horus and the left lunar eye of Thoth/Hathor/Anubis. From this the 'Snake-Cult' of the Naasseenes developed from whom none other than Yeshua Ben Pantera/Joseph Bar Thomas Didymos aka Jesus of NAZAreth, received initiation in the years leading to 24AD. The Naasseenes understood the archetypology of the 2nd Order of the Cosmogenesis as that of the Abraxas or Abrasax. From wiki: The serpent Every temple, naos, shows by its title that it is intended for the honour of the serpent naas as "the Moist Essence," of the universe, without which "naught at all of existing things, immortal or mortal, animate or inanimate, can hold together." Because, after all, "all things are subject to Him, and He is Good, and has all things in Him ... so that He distributes beauty and bloom to all that exist according to each one's nature and peculiarity, as though permeating all."[13] G.R.S. Mead has suggested that all of this is in reference to the Kundalini:—This is the cosmic Akāsha of the Upaniṣhads, and the Kuṇḍalinī, or serpentine force in man, which when following animal impulse is the force of generation, but when applied to spiritual things makes of a man a god. It is the Waters of Great Jordan flowing downwards (the generation of men) and upwards (the generation of gods); the Akāsha-gangā or Heavenly Ganges of the Purāṇas, the Heavenly Nile of mystic Egypt.[14] End wiki It would behoove all of you to engage in basis research before engaging in innuendo and analysis of material and data preceeding your many judgements on things you seem not to understand in clarity. Abraxas, the perpetuator of the Nazi archetypology, the Thubanese way. AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 02-26-2010 at 12:56 PM.

01-20-2010, 08:03 AM	#670
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by migp Hi Abraxasinas, Do you have any idea on how can I get a little more money here in this 3D dimension so I can have more avilable time to read this thread?. Seriously, why is that that is so difficult to preserve our physical bodies in this world, or reality?. I mean we need to work hard so we can pay for our expenses. Thanks, Sure, use some 'black magic' to conjure up the 'Great Evil Draconian' Faustus Satanicus. Then sell your soul to him for some 'petty cash' and the ability to discern the 'Fall of the Numbers' in the next draw of the lotto numbers. AA

01-20-2010, 08:13 AM	#671
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Phtha A big thanks for all the effort you put in to answering everyones questions friend Sirebard. I have a question about Leonard Horowitz=Hz=hurts and his 528hz frequency that everyone tuned into during the liveh20 concert which kicked off during a summer solstice. Is it truly a frequency of love or one of control? Also I'm of the opinion that the Greys and the Reptoids as understood in the conspiratorial terms is not by psyops. What is your opinion concerning this? The 528 Hz frequency is a radio frequency of a wavelength of 568.2 kilometers. So this frequency can attune to geographical regionalities of this extent, say areas encompassing so 323,000 square kilometers. In terms of interD physics; the emission of radio frequencies so interact in feedback loops with the designated geographical areas, the areas being the 'antenna' receivers. The Greys and Reptoids are not as physical as you are lead to believe. There will be a difference in what you can see and what you can touch. Psychological Operations are ubiquituous. AA

01-20-2010, 08:22 AM	#672
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by 12DnAHelix HuH ? I don't think the 'Lyrans' are a 'Plasma Life Form'; I dunno know there Abraxasinas.. You are free to think hat you like to think. Do you know what a plasma is? As far as I am aware, our 'simian life model' is 'lyran' and the 'elongated craniums' are also a Lyran trait. Who told you that? Malta & Dolichocephaloids * http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_malta.htm http://www.desertfoxoverland.co.uk/m...cephaloids.HTM * This is also the kind of stuff that the 'Sovereign Military Order of Malta' try and keep under wraps. How do you know and how does wiki know? The Dracz interfered in the project somehow, thinking that because this was once a seedworld of theirs; they could do whatever they damn well pleased - or perhaps agreements change over time. A possible story. I am pretty sure that dynamics having to do with 'Rigel' also involve at least in some capacity the draco-reptilians .. Oh yes, Rigel is swarming with Orionites and Draconian rebels. there is alot more branching between star systems and lifeforms that resides on planets there than we give credence to .. Remember, the great hunter Orion was stung in his achilles tendon by a scorpion ... ancient war between 'Antares & Rigel' over 'EA' ... Yes, its the heel in Genesis, the curse of the serpent and the way of the Irish Daanites. Ophiuchus, the serpent tamer puts 'his foot in' in between Scorpius and Sagittarius on November 22nd/23rd. This is part of the reason why Alpha Dracz have to return 12 DnA Strand visual rep to humanity. Yes indeed, we Alpha Dracs are genetic engineers. See the post on the Book of the Dragons on this forum. It is a long story has to do with 'Ancestral Mass Karma' .. 'Soul Matrix Family Lines', but many of the statements I see you making; only raise further questions and cast doubt. I am one of the great deceivers indeed. Question is who am I deceiving? I am not trying to be critical, just attempting to understand what it is you are really trying to tell us regarding this 'Thuban Council'. I did so many times. Perhaps you require your reading glasses, as I often do. Because quite honestly, I really would like to know; this sh^t quite literally has ruined my life. The kingdom of God is within and without; but without the recognisance of the within, the without can become very oppressive. Regards, -daniEL AA

01-20-2010, 08:49 AM	#673
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by wilsonericq7 In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love. This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group. Yet, this daily reality is hardly without catalysts/actions. Outstanding post if I may say so. A..

01-20-2010, 08:54 AM	#674
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by 12DnAHelix Hello Abrax, Sorry for the delay in getting back over here, I don't think you have seen the 'Opaluminal Simulation' yet; but if your 'Thuban Council' is for real - perhaps you can speak to them in these regards. Unfortunately for us, you might say, we have severed all relations with the 'Opaluminal Simulation' Group. This was because we know where they resided and our agenda has assimilated this group. We ate them, in a manner of speaking. Iow, we have swalled their 'group consciousness' and 'Dragonized' them under the etiquettes of Thuban. They should be able to confirm most of what I speak, if you are legit; and you have a strong connection. They are ok with their assimilation; their spokesperson has conveyed. I have absolutely no idea what you mean or are saying in your initial response regarding 'Omicron Draconis'. You can always do some research on Omicron Draconis, if you wish to know more about this labeling. But I will re-iterate my initial statement that the Original Stronghold Homeworld of the Grandfather -Winged- Dragons is in the 'Omicroin Draconis' star system. If anything, Alpha Draconis is a -FRONT-; and an Offshoot - Inquiry your 'COUNCIL'. Indeed, WE are the front and first contact point between the Prime Source, sitting on his throne as 'The Little Serpent'. Regarding the 'Voyagers Material'; at least back when I was affiliated with looking into it; I came to the conclusion that 'energetics that do not have the highest interests of the majority can work through highly advanced information as a smokescreen' ... is generally the function of a 'Haze'. The 'Voyager Material' was assimilated by the Drunvalo emissionaries from OUR perspective and so is no longer of 3rd Order. It is a subset of 3rd Order as 4th Order data in OUR, the Thubanese perspective. The Drunvalo Melchizedek data remains at 3rd Order. I will take into my heart what you are saying, and see where it takes me; i'd like to see amends made personally. I saw the 'Opaluminal Simulation' pretty clearly, back in 2005; and it was a 6 universe ~ 36 dimensional structure being spun out of 144000 faceted core. This semiotiks is appropriate, except the 144,000 facets are 6-dimensional, not 36-dimensional. The 36th dimension only exists in the Riemannian Manifold of Differential Geometry, that is as a 2D mathematical representation of topological connectivity. The physicality in inertial terms cannot exceed 10D and 11D in nononertial (say electromagnetic) terms. 12D becomes a mirrorspace for the lowerDs. ... and actually, supposedly 'Mandala' even contains 2-d cross section view I can understand the 'trine', it's importance; but that's not quite how I personally have seen it. Trine to me is Universal Life Force / Inherent Animating Intelligence / Master Key Template of Divinity ... Your personal experiences are interdimensional and are valid expressions of a deeper archetypological language. It is your individual interpretation of your experiences, which will often differ from the interpretation of similar experiences of others. All is a unified hologram however; so a universal interpretation and translation of the semantics can be constructed. Those constructions then give rise to differences of opinions, say Drunvalo versus Anna Hayes versus Thuban etc. etc. Search fo9r encompassment, where the 'versus' disappears in 'viewpoints of relative perceptions' and possible unification. If you touch the tail of an elephant in the dark, you think it could be a snake. If you touch the tusk of an elephant in the dark, you think it could be a cow. If you touch the ear of an elephant in the dark, you think it could be a bat. When the sun comes up and you see the Elephant you know that it is an elephant - you wern't 'wrong' but underinformed about the 'bigger picture'. the 'schematic' is clearly at the very least ''semi-visible'' and at the very most; some people can see it perfectly; visionary artists like Alex Grey & Luke Brown (spectraleyes.com) Regarding the '7' hierarchies, if you know anything; there are 7 sacred / galactic directions , 7 chakras (at least in established 'centuries old tradition'). I have a vague recall about there being 7 chakras. I also have read somewhere that there are 7 raunbow colours, but I might be wrong and there might be 6 or 8. ... the 6 pointed 'shatkona' has an 'invisible' direction 'center', as the 'seed of life' also is composed of 6 outer circles with the one in the center ... Who told you that? I believe that we exist within what I would personally call 'Epsilon Space'; which is curved, spheroidal, torsion based ... Indeed, Thuban physicists term it the Kaluza-Klein deSitter Spacetime in a curved Riemann metric in 5-dimensional hyperspacetime. Alpha-Beta-Gamma-Delta-Epsilon, as the fifth, but we don't call it that - you can. I don't intuit any 'transition'; to me; the conduit is already open and it has been for years now - it has taken many years to start to warm up ... either synchronize through the heart in alignment with higher mind and receive the download from the core, or be wiped off the face of the earth ... Yes, we are all story tellers, data collectors and environment perceivers. is choice humanity has to make, in that choice - assuming 'alignment' is the choice made collectively; the necessary things will begin to unfold from within each - and descend from above ... If you say so, it has validity for you. and it has to do with the Long Count aspect of the Calendar and what the Calandar is actually mirror-synching with ... it is above 'hunab ku' - galactic core center, is omni-dimensional multi-universal core ... 144000 is the master key # (BAKTUN) Yes, here your ideas converge with the Thuban data. we have time beyond 2012 as far as I am concerned, out to about 2028 ... ... 'neo-civilization' ... Of course the Mayan enddate is just a resetting of the Mayan daycount. Yet, it does something that has not been done before and that is to RECONFIGURE the Quantum-Gauge-Structure of the Universe. So whilst the 'world' will not end on December 21st, 2012; the 'world' will be a reborn world on December 22nd, 2012. Physically, things may appear 'almost' the same, but in terms of this 'gauge structure' - well, you'll have to wait and see. regards, Daniel * By download from core, I mean become aligned with the naurally occurring cyclic changes that take place ... galaxial-solar-earth-human relationship, proper use of our understanding ... we are pretty close to the very edge of a very deep and dark chasm - we have been for many many years now .. but there is an invisible plank across it .. is a narrow path though (and it goes through the heart). Be well on your path Daniel - you have seen the light and you are the light. AA

01-20-2010, 09:07 AM

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abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635

Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by UncleJohn Hi Abrax, Let me rephrase my question. How does our memory and consciousness work? Where is it located? Thanks, I'll keep trying because this is fun. Uncle John Here is your answer from the Thuban Council Uncle John. Physical Consciousness coupled to the Biomind of Universal Life http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id185.html The labels of 'mind' and 'self-awareness' and of 'consciousness' have for long awaited rigorous definition in the nomenclature of science. Whilst most researchers and philosophers accept the existence of those labels; what those namings represent in a physically measurable sense of physical parameters have remained largely unexplored. These notions have remained as one of the major mysteries of science and have become subject to a number of speculations; from a purely materialistic interpretation of the 'mind' being a biochemical response to environmental stimuli, to the 'mind' being part of a 'spiritual soul' and subsequently constituting a transcendent aspect of biophysical life. A related mystery is that of 'life' itself. How did the universe evolve 'life' from a generally accepted premise of a prior or older cosmology, which disallowed biological life as is observed today? The thermodynamically expanding universe follows well tested physical parameters engaging the quantum nature of physical existence in the form of nucleosynthesizing interactions such as nuclear fusion of atomic eleements and an associated natural radioactivity inherent in nature and its laws of conservation of energy and momentum. Those same processes occurred in the primordial universe and due to the smaller volume then occupied by the expanding universe; the descriptive cosmology describes a much hotter universe (as a Black Body Planckian Radiator) and a universe in which say the lifeforms observed on planet earth could not exist in their biochemical and molecular constitutions. Recent advances in the demetricated forms of supermembrane theory (M-Theory for 11-dimensional supermembranes propagating 10-dimensional superstrings in a 12-dimensional selfdual mirror-spacetime of supervolumars (Vafa-F-Space encompassing Witten-M-Space) have allowed a rigorous definition for the above labels in the parameters of the physics of the superbranes. The Coupling of the Energy Laws by the Self-Frequency of the Quantum for Mass It has been discovered, that the universe contains an intrinsic coupling-parameter between its inertial masscontent and its noninertial energy content. The matter in the universe is described by the physical parameter termed Mass (M), say as proportional to Energy (E) in Einstein's famous equation Mass M=E/c2. This mass M then reappears in Newtonian mechanics as the change in momentum (p) defining the Inertial Mass (Mi) as being proportional to some applied Force (F) or the 'work done' for a particular displacement {F=dp/dt for p=mv and v a kinetematic velocity as the ratio of displacement over time generalised in the lightpath X=cT}. It is also well understood, that the inertial mass Mi has a gravitational counterpart described not by the change in momentum of inertia carrying matter agglomerations; but by the geometric curvature of space containing matter conglomerations. This Gravitational Mass Mg is measured to be equivalent to the Inertial Mass Mi and is formulated in the 'Principle of Equivalence' in Einstein's Theory of General Relativity. F-Theory then has shown, that this Inertial Mass Mi is coupled inherently to a 'mass-eigen' frequency via the following formulation: (1) Energy E=hf=mc2 (The Combined Planck-Einstein Law) (2) E=hf iff m=0 (The Planckian Quantum Law E=hf for lightspeed invariance c=λf) (3) E=mc2 iff f=fo=fss (The Einstein Law E=mc2 for the lightspeed upper limit) (1) Whenever there is mass (M=Mi=Mg) occupying space; this mass can be assigned either as a photonic mass {by the Energy-Momentum relation of Special Relativity: E2=Eo2 + (pc)2} by the photonic momentum p=h/λ=hf/c} OR a 'restmass' mo=m/√[1-(v/c)2] for 'restenergy' Eo=moc2. The 'total' energy for the occupied space so contains a 'variable' mass in the 'combined' law; but allows particularisation for electromagnetic radiation (always moving at the Maxwell lightspeed constant c in Planck's Law and for the 'Newtonian' mass M in the Einstein Law. (2) If M=0, then the Einstein Law is suppressed in favour of the Planck Law and the space contained energy E is photonic, i.e. electromagnetic, always dynamically described by the constancy of lightspeed c. (3) If M>0, then there exists a mass-eigen frequency fss=fo=Ess/h=mssc2/h, which QUANTIZES all mass agglomerations m=Σmss in the massquantum mss=Ess/c2. The Coupling of the Supermembranes in Vafa-F-Space The quantization of mass m so indicates the coupling of the Planck Law in the frequency parameter to the Einstein law in the mass parameter. The postulative basis of M-Theory utilizes the coupling of two energy-momentum eigenstates in the form of the modual duality between so termed 'vibratory' (high energy and short wavelengths) and 'winding' (low energy and long wavelengths) selfstates. The 'vibratory' selfstate is denoted in: Eps=Eprimary sourcesink=hfps=mpsc2 and the 'winding' and coupled selfstate is denoted by: Ess=Esecondary sinksource=hfss=mssc2 The F-Space Unitary symmetry condition becomes: fpsfss=rpsrss=(λps/2π)(2πλss)=1 The coupling constants between the two eigenstates are so: EpsEss=h2 and Eps/Ess=fps2=1/fss2 The Supermembrane EpsEss then denotes the coupled superstrings in their 'vibratory' high energy and 'winded' low energy selfstates. The coupling constant for the vibratory high energy describes a MAXIMISED frequency differential over time in df/dt|max=fps2 and the coupling constant for the winded low energy describes its MINIMISED reciprocal in df/dt|min=fss2. F-Theory also crystallizes the following string formulations from the EpsEss superbrane parameters. 1/Eps=e*=2Rec2=√{4αhce2/2πGome2}=2e√α[mP/me]=2ke2/me=αhc/πme Here e* is defined as the inverse of the sourcesink vibratory superstring energy quantum Eps=E* and becomes a New Physical Measurement Unit is the StarCoulomb (C*) and as the physical measurement unit for 'Physical Consciousness'. Re is the 'classical electron radius' coupling the 'point electron' of Quantum- Electro-Dynamics (QED) to Quantum Field Theory (QFT) and given in the electric potential energy of Coulomb's Law in: mec2=ke2/Re.and for the electronic restmass me. Alpha α is the electromagnetic finestructure coupling constant α=2πke2/hc for the electric charge quantum e, Planck's constant h and lightspeed constant c. Go is the Newtonian gravitational constant as applicable in the Planck-Mass mP=√(hc/2πGo). As the StarCoulomb unit describes the inverse sourcesink string energy as an elementary energy transformation from the string parametrization into the realm of classical QFT and QED, this transformation allows the reassignment of the StarCoulomb (C*) as the measurement of physical space itself. Physical Consciousness and the Awareness Quantum The Physical Quantum of Consciousness as SpaceAwareness (df/dt) maximised and minimised in the string coupling constants fps2 and fss2 respectively, so can be defined as: e*=2Rec2=(Classical Electron Diameter)x(lightspeed)2=VolumexAngular Acceleration As the time differential operator on frequency is independent on radial displacement in df/dt as the square of frequency or the square of inverse time; we can now also define the parameter of: Spacial Awareness=df/dt=AlphaOmega=αω=aw=Angular Acceleration Quantum. The Spacial Awareness 'aw' then operates upon any volumar in the rootreduced F-Space (12D being a 9-dimensional brane volumar of superstring dimensions to which is coupled a 3-dimensional temporal time-connector volumar in 12=9+3 F-Space, 11=9+2 M-Space and 10=9+1 C-Space) AS the 3-D volume of the observed spacial component of the 'Euclidean flatness of the Minkowski spacetime metric. The implications of those definitions for the physical universe and its cosmology are far reaching indeed. As the expanding universe increases in its 3-dimensional volume, its 'spacial consciousness' is also increasing in the 'activation' of additional spacetime quanta. Each of these spacetime quanta describes the inherent Zero-Point-Energy (ZPE) as defined in the 3D-volumar of the Eps sourcesink superstring energy quantum then coupled to its characteristic 'starcoulombic' 'physical consciousness'. The ZPE per unit volumar is ZPEquantum=4πEps/λps3=Eps/2π2rps3=4π/e*λps3 (Joules/m3) Every ZPE quantum is coupled to a volume V*=e*/(df/dt) and so defines the quantisation of spacial volume in terms of the ZPE, as well as the 'physical consciousness' contained in that volume. The V* here denotes the resonant quantum volumarized eigenstate in a minimised spacetime volumar and NOT in terms of spacial volume, but in the form of an ENTROPY COUNTER of 'statistical permutation selfstates' operation upon the 'Spacial Consciousness' quantum e*=1/Eps=1/Ess.fps2=fss/h. The self-frequency of the mass quantum so can be expressed formally as fss=he* for the timeinstanton tss=fss, the latter triggering the 'inertialisation' of the postinflationary cosmology in the socalled Quantum Big Bang, precisely 3.333..x10-31 seconds* following the 'string epoch' of the matter wave inflation (detailed and referenced elsewhere on this site). But it is the supermembrane coupling between the gravitational (photonic) mass Mg as given by the vibratory sourcesink string with the inertial mass Mi as given by the winding sinksource string, which is the primary causation for this Quantum Big Bang, following the string parametric de Broglie wave matter inflation. Rewriting fss=he* then describes this coupling in the ACTION=EnergyTime of the Planck Constant in the finestructure fss=Energy*xTimeInstantonxe* for the Unity Condition of F-Space in 1=E*e* that is the original definition of e*=1/E* as the definition for the 'Physical Consciousness of Space'. The Frequency Resonance Selfstates as Entropy Counters Generally then, the permutative entropy counter df/dt|max=fps2 gives precisely 9x1060 frequency eigenstates as the coupling constant between the two modes of the superstring; whilst its inverse defines the minimum as the 'Singularity' 'Null-State' or 'No Consciousness' state as 1/(9x1060)~0. The Awareness operator applicable for all universal space so can fluctuate between the quasi-zero state and the maximised resonance state in the factor of 81x10120 and a value 'measured' by contemporary standard cosmological models as characteristic of the density discrepancy between the Planck-(ZPE)-Density {ρP=mP/VP=c5/πhGo2}~9.4x1094 (kg/m3) and the actual matter density measured in the universe {ρc=3Ho2/8πGo~3.8x10-27 (kg/m3) from the inner 10D observer frame and ρc=Ho2/4π2Go~8.0x10-28 (kg/m3) from the outer 11D observer frame of the Riemannian hypersphere as a 3D boundary of the 4-ball V4=π2R4/2 for dV4/dR=2π2R3 as a 3-dimensional surface descriptive for the overall topology of the standard cosmology). The dimensionless ratios of ρP/ρc then indicate the ZPE/Critical energy discrepancies in the factors of the permutation string selfstates in the factors of 2.5x10121 and 1.2x10122 respectively. Quantum Consciousness and Magnetocharges define Quantum Gravitation The ZPE-quantum Eps=E* so represents the kernel or core for any region of space containing a maximised 'physical consciousness' given by 1/E*=e* StarCoulombs (C*). The quantitative volume V for this consciousness is minimised in Vps*=e*/fps2 in sourcesink resonance to the vibratory superstring modality and is in modular duality (as a monadic dyad or monadic duad) to its coupled sinksource resonance of its winding mode in its quantum-maximisation of Vss*=e*fps2. The minimum calculates as Vps*=e*/fps2=1/1.8x1058 permutation states and translates to a 3D volume of measurement R with a Compton radius (Rc=h/2πmc=c/2πfc=c/ωc with angular velocity ω=2πf) as of Rcps=(e*fss2/2π2)1/3~1.4x10-20 meters for a Compton Energy of about 2.2 microjoules or14.03 TeV (as the maximum design capacity of the Large Hadron Collider or LHC located at Geneva, Switzerland comprised of two individuated colliding proton beams). The precise ratio between the ZPE-kernel and the 'Space Consciousness' surrounding this core becomes: Wormhole-Radius/Space-Consciousness-Radius and as: rps/Rcps=(2π2/e*rss3 fss2)1/3=c(fss/4πe*)1/3=(cfss/8πRe)1/3~1/887.11 (dimensionless); and because the string coupling defines c=λpsfps=1/λssfss), rendering the Minkowski lightspeed constant c as dimensionless in the lightpath Xps=cTps=cfss. This defines the quantum gravitational coupling of the gravitational mass element mss to the observed and measured elementary particle masses in QFT and Quantum-Chromo-Dynamics (QCD); the 'chromaticity' or 'colour charging' of gluonic gauge interaction transmitters being identifiable as the MagnetoCharges defined in StarCoulombs (C*) The corresponding maximum then couples in macroquantisation to the microquantised quantum gravitational MagnetoCharges in Vss*=e*fps2=4.5x1063 permutation states for a characterizing 'Galactic Volumar' in Rcss=(e*fps2/2π2)1/3=(e*fss2/2π2)1/3~6.1x1020 meters or so 64,650 lightyears and a displacment scale which is then 'haloed' by the the winded string parameter rss=1/rps=2πλss~6.3x1022 meters or 6,648,875 lightyears and as the displacement scales observed by the standard cosmology. Correspondingly, rss/Rcss=(16π5λss3/e*fps2)1/3=(16π5/fsse*c3)1/3=(8π5/fssRec5)1/3~102.85 As rps/rss=rps2=(cfss/2π)2 and Rcps/Rcss=(fss/fps)2/3=(fss)4/3=(4π2rps/rssc2)2/3 (Rcps/Rcss)3 = (4π2rps/rssc2)2=10-88/c4=1/8.1x10121 as the awareness operator fluctuation range. The 'Physical Consciousness' in the standard cosmology now crystallizes as being associated with biovital lifeforms, occupying space, and as evolving in the dynamics of (holographic) fractals of the encompassing 'consciousness envelope' aka the galactic cells of macroquantised entities. This biovitality is defined in a 'kernel consciousness' inherent in space itself via the string-coupled modalities; mimicking the overall expansion of the thermodynamic (and stochastic) universe. This process can be comprehensively described as the EVOLUTION of Core-Consciousness in its Spacial Occupancy. The Definition of 'Life' must so fundamentally be based on the string coupling between the two modalities and as two modes of operation, which quantum relatively entangle the microquantum characterised by the 'wormhole core' as as function of the nuclear interaction scale (the classical electron radius Re is also the scale of the magneto-asymptotic confinement of gluons in the definition of the magnetocharges and so becomes the limiting quantum geometric template for the nuclear gauge interactions and the 'Higgs Bosonic' blueprint at the 3 Fermi scale). 'Life' then becomes the cosmo-evolutionary consequence of a quantum geometry defining the spacial configurations of the supermembranes as superstring couplings. This is why the most basic and primordial 'lifeforms' such as viruses, bacteris and fungi follow highly geometrized patterns in Platonic- and Archimedean solids, characterised by highly symmetrical arrangements of their molecular and atomic constituents. The most elementary 'life form' is the crystalline arrangements of the self-replicating pattern. This originally manifested in so called quasicrystals of fivefolded symmetry, such as can be observed in Shechtmanites and the Penrose tiling. The underpinning cosmology of the decoupling and breaking of the so termed Planck-Symmetry transformed the Planck-String into 5 classes of superstring; this 'breaking of unification' following a pentagonal supersymmetry at the core of all 'natural laws'. Many details can be found on this website for perusal and utility. For a 'lifeless' mass-only universe then the selfrequency of mass in the fss sinksource superstring would define the awareness operator as minimised in V*|min=e*/(fss2)=e*fps2 Corollarily, the 'fully life-conscious' universe (attained after an infinite linear time evolution of the descriptive cosmology) would be defined in V*|max=e*fss2. Consciousness of Inertia in Universal Quantization of Mass We can now relate the 'spacial consciousness' in terms of the universe's inertia content to the volume occupied by mass. As there are (RHubble/rps)3~10147 spacetime quanta in the asymptotic string universe of 10D and bounded by the membrane universe of 11D (as an extremal Strominger braned Black Hole say) and the sinksource (winded string) Ess=hfss=mssc2=2.222...x10-64 J; we can define a 'Consciousness-Density per unit mass' Ρc for this 11D-'Mother-Black Hole' in Witten M-Space in dyadic coupling with a 12D-'Father-White Hole' in Vafa-F-Space (MBH and FWH). The M-Space MBH defines the Hubble horizon in its' closure mass' MHubble=RHubble.c2/2Go=Σmss=Nmss~6.4706x1052 kg. Ρc=e*(RHubble/rps)3/MHubble=2Goe*RHubble2/rps3c2~7.81685x1096 (~83.2 ρP) C*/kg This is about 83.2 times the Planck-Density ρP for MHubble and 2.34 times the Planck-Density applied to the baryonic mass seedling Mo=0.0281MHubble. The 'Base Inertia Consciousness' (BIC) per minimal mass quantum mss then calculates as mssΡc=1.930x1016 C* and for a count of N=2.6206x10133 mss as the inertia distribution of the BICUniverse=5.058x10149 C*. A characteristic mass of 1 kg, say as the standard liter of water in 10-3 cubicmeters of volume so possesses an inherent inertial consciousness of 7.82x1096 C*. This is the ZPE of the quantum standard models redefined in units of consciousness and this total includes 'dark matter' and 'dark energy', the former as the effect of the DIM-Factor (see other references on this website) of 7.56 for the present linear time coordiante and the latter as the 'missing mass-energy' for the mass seedling Mo in 10D to 'close' the universe in the MBH of MHubble in 11D. In terms of the volume of 1 liter however; the 'spacial consciousness' quantizes in the form of the VPE quantum Eps=1/e* per unit volume and which is VPEv=Eps/2π2rps3~2.5133x1064 J/m3. The 'inertia consciousness' of 1 liter of water so relates the BIC of 7.82x1096 C* to a VPEv or ZPE of 2.51x1061 J/m3. The example of a simple rock serves as a culmination of this essay. A rock, occupying a volume Vrock carries an intrinsic Base-Consciousness due to its volume. This basic consciousness is given in the mass-frequency fss as the mass of the rock is quantised in a number count N of mass quanta mss. This mass of the rock is actually a higher-dimensional mass-current as a form of 'natural superconductivity' {Ips=2efps superstring coupled to Iss=2efss}. The rock can so also be described as a summation of displacement current elements Iss=2eλps/c (as James Clark Maxwell propositioned - see 'The Origin of Mass' section on this website). Mass in its purest form so is nothing but 'static magnetoelectricity' or densified electromagnetic monopolic sourcesink current. The nondensified form of mass is of course photonic and should this photonic mass NOT be a derivative from the acceleration of electric (Coulomb) charges 'e' coupled to preexisting mass (say fusion protons in stars), BUT be a derivative from the acceleration of magnetocharges 'e*', then the resulting ElectroMagnetic Radiation is monadic or Monopolic and defines the so called 'SPIRIT' of metaphysical cosmologies and philosophies. The rock of volume Vrock and as some summation ΣIss or Σmss so describes an energetic selfstate of the superstring coupling between the string dyadics of the microquantum Eps and the macroquantum Ess. The interaction of the rock with its environment then, in elementary terms, becomes a dynamic of spacial interaction in the movements of the rock. All Spacequanta are associated or quantum entangled with each other via the string coupling and as all spacetime volumars are defined by their ZPE-core and its 'haloed' or 'auric' envelope of the physical consciousness coupled to the volumars by the self-awareness operator df/dt; the entirte cosmology is rtendered a unified kaleidoscope of holofractal self-interaction of the thus defined 'Cosmic Consciousness'. A basic quantum consciousness then is multplied and complexified in the interaction, self- and mutual, between spacetime volumars of varying sizes in the encompassing summation integrals of the initial- and boundary parameters of the cosmogenesis (described elsewhere on this website). The phenomenon of 'life' then is characterised by the Awareness-Operator the Alpha-Omega aw=αω=df/dt, namely the 'Change in Frequency' over linearised Time t and where the sourcesink frequency for minimum impdence for the 'natural current flow' (Ips) forms the upper bound source-resonance of the vibratory string modality and the maximum impdedence describes the 'natural current flow' (Iss) as the lower bound for the sink-resonance. The 'lifeless' universe of the primordial Quantum Big Bang is in Sink-Resonance to the Ess sinksource as a macroquantum, manifesting the supergalactic inertia in Black Holes as seedlings for mass agglomerations known as galaxies. Coupled to those 'higher-D' Black Holes are however imaged 'higher-D' White Holes (Quasars) who as Source-Resonators manifest the Source-Resonance of the Eps sourcesink as the microquantum of the superbraned cosmology from its cosmogony. The purpose and reason for the universe of materiality so is found in the Coevolution of SourceSink Self-Consciousness as unified encompassment for the cosmoevolution with its individuated and dispersed holographic shards or holograms of this selfsame self-consciousness in evolvement. The operator for this evolvement is spacial selfawareness and the ability to use a biomind defined by the function of 'changing' or modulating the frequency received by an antenna, which can take the form of a biochemical and molecular arrangement of cellular units termd a 'brain'. The biological evolution of brains, then accomodates the utility of the natural superconductive electricity embodied in space itself; the biochemical electricity (of say electromagnetic brain waves) representing a shadow function of the chargeflow I=dQ/dt as a 'normal currentflow' to the electromagneto monopolic supercurrents of the magnetocharges aka the physical spacial consciousness.

 

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01-20-2010, 09:29 AM	#676
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by eleni Agreed, I'm sure Abrax being as smart as he is- knows exactly the numerology connected and as such probably designed it that way (his name) for who knows what reasons. Maybe he can explain. Abrax, what is your opinion of John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica/Hieroglyphic Monad? Hi Eleni! We are in agreement with John Dee's Hieroglyphia. Its symbolism is reassigned to the Mesopotamian Mazzaroth or Zodiac and the general 'thrust' of John Dee's work engages the 'Mystical Alchemy', i.e. the 'Heavenly Wedding of the Opposites' and leading to the 'Thuban Dragonomy' of the Androgenization. AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-20-2010 at 09:48 AM.

01-20-2010, 09:47 AM	#677
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial thank you i will see if i can find that and have a look. What dose this mean? What is simply planed in 62 weeks from January? What kind of certiain information will be cut off? What what will be planed on this new date in December? Thanks for your replies. It's the fulfilling of certain types of prophecy Universal Jester. The 'power' of the 'Holy Roman Empire' of the last 1980 years or so derives from the establishment of archetypical structures. Knowing of those structures, allowed the PTB to confiscate the 'human groupmind', as these archetypes cannot be 'ignored'. It's like the Zodiac of Mesopotamia (and others like the Chinese of course). The construction EXISTS, irrespective of the skeptics and the debunkers, claiming this or that regarding ist efficiency and scientific validity. So to DISEMPOWER the 'archetypes', say as 'astrology', 'numerology' or the 'Holy Roman Empire' (in politics and religion of course); the archetypes themselves must be REDEFINED or RETRANSLATED. In terms of religion, this was precisely the cause of the world wars. To 'get rid' of the 'prophecied second coming'; the PTB attempted to manufacture and 'force' it in THEIR retranslation of the archetypes. The polarisation on this thread between the pro-Thubanites and the anti-Thubanites is the same archetype or MEME manifesting itself as a group-consciousness. In the second WW it was Hitler's Agartha of the Luminari versus the so characterised Jewish Shamballa of the Illuminati. Both however, as many here now, are but faces of the same coin, the Brotherhood of the Snake under the auspices of Abraxas aka Abrasax. Of course, the 1000-year Reich did not eventuate in the Agartha sense, but since has become the attempt by the Illuminati to manifest, say coinciding with the hype of the 2012. Ok then, this will backfire for all 'brotherhoods'; as the 2nd Order of Abraxas has become absorbed in the 1st Order of the LOGOS. So the 1st Order has 'overruled' the timeline manipulations of the 2nd and 3rd orders (attempted for the last 4000 years in the present human civilisation) and it is this timeline the Thubanese dispensation is addressing AS AN OFFERING to the 1st Order. So then should the 1st Order of the Universe accept this 'offering' as a ''Story Told'; then the archetypes will be changed in concordance with the Retranslations of what is here termed the Council of Thuban. Recall THUBAN=FREEDOM=66=WOMAN, the WOMAN being not Gaia, but the UNIVERSAL MOther as the creation itself. AA Interesting. What do they say is the greater time line events? I shall publish details when so appropriate dear Jester of the Universe. AA

01-20-2010, 09:52 AM	#678
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by wilsonericq7 Dear Abrax, My intention is to clarify our path as a group by first resolving what holds us back as individuals. In a balanced and unchallenged 3D experience (Eden) the mental and physical platforms are but mirrors of each other through the emotional platform experienced in real time. The emotional platform is the communication field between platforms, a checklist of sorts. In the example below, the experience is harmonious and without catalyst/action. Thoughts through feelings become things | Things through feelings reflect thoughts. In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love. This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group. Yet, this daily reality is hardly without catalysts/actions. When a catalyst occurs here in 3D, we hinder our progress and disrupt our healing/ascension process by not honoring this reflection between platforms. In the example below, the catalyst/action is displayed along with the changes within the experience. Notice the disharmony in the physical platform, the unbalanced nature of the emotional platform and the now challenged nature of the mental platform. Problem If I remember correctly, in order to move forward and learn from any experience one (non-separated individual) must move as a whole within themselves. Thus, any inhibitor/action used to counteract any catalyst must reflect through the emotional platform on both the physical and mental platforms congruently. Solution The above is a perfect solution to any problem/catalyst. No matter the catalyst, the inhibitor must be reflected free from blockages within either platform. You have stated “…The mental life is not so easy, as the experience of the mental world becomes the 'Egocentricity of the Human Mind’…The mental experiences of 'falling over' are not self corrective and self teaching as found in the physical life of the necessities.” I reflected here and recalled what most refer to as the chakras and more importantly what blocks the energy from flowing freely through them. Simply, one cannot move forward only on the physical platform and leave the mental platform behind; to do so would ignore the imbalance from the emotional platform. We were given the emotions to show us “how we are doing” with regard to the mental platform, if I remember correctly. If one wants to know their progress towards ascension, or quite simply how they are learning from their 3D experience, check your gut…as it were. If you feel higher amounts of energy (as there is no good or bad) on the emotional platform, check what might be causing the blockage. In a free flowing energetic state, high amounts of energy signal an imbalance within the 3D experience; and are an indication of a blockage for at least one of the platforms. Blockage Clearing the ‘old wise man’ from the mental platform reveals challenges similar to the toddler learning to walk in the physical platform; as different approaches will yield to success. As “…development of a harmonious…self disciplined human mind automatically balances and stabilizes the physical world with the mental world for a playground of the human spirit to express itself in its fullest extent of creativity, self-awareness and interconnectedness.” Namaste, Eric Thank you Eric for reformulating and clarifying my answer to your question. You have embellished and illustrated what I meant to convey and there is nothing I would critisize here, being of a sound scientific and intelligent approach to the topic raised. AA

01-20-2010, 11:17 AM	#679
wilsonericq7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 50	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Good Morning Abrax and company, My last post was to make sure I understood the flow between the platforms. My enthusiasm for this material drives me to understand it completely. I yearn for my wife to join me with this material, so I share it often and break it down when it gets 'deep' (always complimenting her intelligence when doing so and assuming I understand any of it in the first place). I appologize for embelishing; as the best post is a short post. Attention is too important to waste; again I am sorry if I insulted anyone here on this thread. You are all so far ahead, I yearn to catch up.

01-20-2010, 02:37 PM	#680
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by BlackLight43 Thank you Abraxa for continuing this thread...so glad I asked for more! Blessings You are welcome BlackLight. Your naming bespeaks of a greater spiritual awareness than many have attained so far. As you may have observed, I am concentrating my participation in this forum to this thread. You can however find continuity of the thread you commented upon in this link: http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id163.html The following might also interest you. ISAAC NEWTON'S ALCHEMY AND EZEKIEL'S TIMELINE TO 2012 Newton's Dream Realised and the Completion of Scriptural Prophetic Archetypology to enable Universal Reconfiguration http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id157.html You carry a great harmony within you, even with your 66 vibration, signifying FREEDOM=6+18+5+5+4+15+13 for this year 2010. Blessed Be, in brotherhood! Abraxas Anthony Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-20-2010 at 02:43 PM.

01-20-2010, 04:15 PM	#681
wilsonericq7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 50	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Anchor Outstanding post if I may say so. A.. Thanks Anchor, I am glad it spoke to you. Namaste

01-20-2010, 04:45 PM	#682
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Here is your answer from the Thuban Council Uncle John. Physical Consciousness coupled to the Biomind of Universal Life http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id185.html Hi Abrax, No mention of the Thuban Council or the 1/18/10 date at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/quantumrelativity/ or http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/ Edit to change url. These are your sites are they not, Tony Bermanseder; BSc? One can cull almost an infinite amount of important sounding gibberish from the fields of Physics and Mathematics. A give away of this is there are no references given for research and verification. Honesty and the scientific method go hand in hand and it seems that perhaps the Thuban Council don't seem to get this. But let's not let this problem bother us. I still await an explanation of how our memory and consciousness works that I can understand. Please don't let this response deter your enthusiasm expressed here. Thanks Uncle John Last edited by UncleJohn; 01-20-2010 at 06:09 PM.

01-20-2010, 05:07 PM	#683
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by 12DnAHelix Hello eXchanger - You were one of the first people to send me a 'friend request' . it's nice to make your acquaintance. Some reason, I just shake my head 'no' when reading this - other than your overall agreement with a 36* dimensional structure. I am not talking about 'science fiction' though; I am talking about a structure which is actually directly perceivable - you just have to use the right lenses; which the mayans were very well schooled in. I don't believe in any '3 matrices' or 'densities' - I believe in nested subsets of continua within a 36* dimensional structure; I think there is a lot of what I personally would call 'new age gobbledygook' in these regards. Additionally, I believe in what is 'directly perceivable'; what I personally describe as being the 'Master Key Template of Divinity' - or the 'schematic model' & 'blueprint' that contains the form holding fields for the structure and is simultaneously woven through / underlies the entirety - at every level ... I've 'repped' ""Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality"" for years - since 1998, just been one of those ones hiding in the shadows so to speak... I find this thread to be rather confusing, but it is interesting My own advice would be to seek out the Zuul and 'Time Wave Lords', plus the 'Opaluminals'. At this point - based on personal 'Alpha Draconian' experience some 11+ years ago; I'd disregard Thuban - although perhaps they do deserve our gratitude - the renegades at least .. unless they really have something to say about the mandala, other than curses ... but I will give this information more than the brief glance I gave it when I posted my comment which this is in response to; which is basically the same quip I just posted. Maybe I should look back in and see what the 'Emerald Order' has been up to over the years, I've read Voyagers 1 & 2 years ago ..... Take Care. and =Peace= to you .. Greetings 12DNAHELIX...NOT sure, if you are grasping, or, reading what we wrote correctly we said: we believe, in 36 dimensions too ~ albeit, we should have typed the word density (not dimension) and said; we believe in densities that are formed over 1 - 2 - or 3 matriXes ~ of a maximum of 12D/12D/12D (D=density) (and, NOT talked about dimensions) - our error we believe, we have one matrix - of 12 D (density) completed in an eXpression of 9191 in The Order of Melchesidek and, we believe, we have one matrix - of 12D (density) completed in an eXpression of 10 in The Order of The Elohim. thus 12D + 12 D, for a total of 24D plus, this, the 3rd matrix we are currently in we said; moving through 1D to 9D (meaning, we can access 9 densities, thru the one we are in, along with having 2 hereditary main guides of 12D so, 9D/ 9+12+12=33 we also connect to a higher guidance/which is part of our own soul family who is 10d/34d (again, density) - HOWEVER, to keep it simple, lets just say they are at 10th density we have NOT yet, seen, what might exist, at 11th density and, we know that 12th density - completes the journey and we also, believe, that it is possible to merge with your 9th density - monad/along with your future monad too, as, we did back on 10/25/2007 we are also aware, that the original 2 - 12TH DENSITY ASPECTS each, became 12 x 12 x 12 = 1728 points of light to further eXpand this: The archetypes like 9191/Isis all come from 12D they manifest in 10D max using 11D as mirror they re-split into 12 x 12 x 12 = or many points of light now, others carry as archetype 12x12x12=1728 as a cubic volume in 3D the points of light which are in 3D mirrored into 6D and 9D finito (talking past 9D is confusing to others) so, to be scientifically accurate The 9D is tright where the 3D is COLOCAL INTERD more so then multiD USE FINESTRUCTURE or SUBSTRUCTURE holofractals in groups of 7 and or 9 so you can put 7 densities into 6D but not as 13D 6D is ROTATION 9D is VIBRATION 3D is TRANSLATION ALL MOvement Dybnamics exists in 9D Space or 10D spacetime you can speak of 9x9=81 substructures or 63=9x7 for each of the 9D - but its playing Your 36 is 9x4 in 4D spacetime then its scientific 3D spacetime is the NOW experienced 4D spacetime is standard physics Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-21-2010 at 06:28 AM.

01-20-2010, 05:21 PM	#684
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by UncleJohn Hi Abrax, No mention of the Thuban Council or the 1/18/10 date at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/quantumrelativity/ or http://cosmicdawn.net These are your sites are they not, Tony Bermanseder; BSc? One can cull almost an infinite amount of important sounding gibberish from the fields of Physics and Mathematics. A give away of this is there are no references given for research and verification. Honesty and the scientific method go hand in hand and it seems that perhaps the Thuban Council don't seem to get this. But let's not let this problem bother us. I still await an explanation of how our memory and consciousness works that I can understand. Please don't let this response deter your enthusiasm expressed here. Thanks Uncle John Sure Uncle John! One can and many do 'cull scientific sounding gibberish' from other sites. This is not the case here and all 'formulations' can be checked for their validity. You are welcome to present SCIENTIFIC CRITICISM and ANALYSIS of anything you encountered on this website. The Thuban Science is NOT mainstream and so cannot be checked in peer review citatations. So if you choose to judge the Thuban omni-science as invalidated, because it is not mainstreamed or citated; then this is your prerogative. So you are invited to 'challenge' the Thuban science in its formalisms and postulates for appropriate reply. Your biased dismissal of things you are unfamiliar with is unwarranted in this instance. If you wish to DO SCIENCE, follow the SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY. So for starters present your arguments and analysis about what and where the 'gibberish' is in the treatise. Hiding behind name calling will not do for the skeptical enquirer. Your question is answered in the post. If you cannot understand it; I suggest you consult some basic physics books or consult articles in populist scientific publications like New Scientist or Scientific American. The link http://cosmicdawn.net is an unconnected phishing site. AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-20-2010 at 05:27 PM.

01-20-2010, 05:36 PM	#685
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Hi Eleni! We are in agreement with John Dee's Hieroglyphia. Its symbolism is reassigned to the Mesopotamian Mazzaroth or Zodiac and the general 'thrust' of John Dee's work engages the 'Mystical Alchemy', i.e. the 'Heavenly Wedding of the Opposites' and leading to the 'Thuban Dragonomy' of the Androgenization. AA Thank you Abraxasinas!

01-20-2010, 06:03 PM	#686
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas One can and many do 'cull scientific sounding gibberish' from other sites. This is not the case here and all 'formulations' can be checked for their validity. You are welcome to present SCIENTIFIC CRITICISM and ANALYSIS of anything you encountered on this website. Hi Abrax, These 'formulations' are mathematical descriptions that are models of the real world. Where are the experiments to give evidence that these 'formulations' fit the real world? How could any scientist check anything without results of experiments? If I was to check just the Mathematics of your conjectures, I would require a paper with all the intermediary definitions, constructions, postulates and theorems clearly spelled out and documented. I would also need some experimental evidence linking this to the real world to make this worth my time. Abrax, I know of no accepted scientist that have worked in a vacuum without peer review. Project Avalon is perhaps not the best place to present these results and associated discussions. Again, I am curious why no mention of the Thuban Council in your earlier voluminous postings on the internet. Please don't let me discourage you from posting here or answering my or other's questions. I find your postings very interesting to read. Thanks Uncle John

01-20-2010, 06:35 PM	#687
Sollve Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 45	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Sure Uncle John! One can and many do 'cull scientific sounding gibberish' from other sites. This is not the case here and all 'formulations' can be checked for their validity. You are welcome to present SCIENTIFIC CRITICISM and ANALYSIS of anything you encountered on this website. The Thuban Science is NOT mainstream and so cannot be checked in peer review citatations. So if you choose to judge the Thuban omni-science as invalidated, because it is not mainstreamed or citated; then this is your prerogative. So you are invited to 'challenge' the Thuban science in its formalisms and postulates for appropriate reply. Your biased dismissal of things you are unfamiliar with is unwarranted in this instance. If you wish to DO SCIENCE, follow the SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY. So for starters present your arguments and analysis about what and where the 'gibberish' is in the treatise. Hiding behind name calling will not do for the skeptical enquirer. Your question is answered in the post. If you cannot understand it; I suggest you consult some basic physics books or consult articles in populist scientific publications like New Scientist or Scientific American. The link http://cosmicdawn.net is an unconnected phishing site. AA Abrax, I believe that when I'm delivering a message as a messenger I (the messenger) hold the total responsibility for that message and also for the recipient's understanding of that message. If I can't deliver the intended information enveloped withing the message with the verified (by me) full understanding of that message I have failed in deliviering the message. As a messenger I do everything I'm capable of to make sure my recipient understands the information given, which makes it necessary for me as the messenger to stretch my communicative skills and also to "think outside the box". A message without understanding is like sending an empty but in this case, fancy envelope. Do you agree with me or do you think it's up to all of us just to understand the parts we can and ignore the rest making the message in it's whole distorted and therefor not the original message? My intention is not to disrespect you in any way, but I feel that the people with the actual courage to ask for clarification helps us all to better understand all of this. I usually ask when I'm not fully understanding things, but if I would ask about everything I don't understand in this thread wouldn't be about Thuban anymore, it would be about answering my questions. All love, Sollve

01-21-2010, 02:43 AM	#688
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Hello friend Sirebard, I was hoping you could list all the different types of energy that you are aware of, and what their higher and lower harmonics manifest as, starting from the highest octave to lowest with each type. I'm curious as to whether there is only one type of energy that manifests differently in each density or if each type of energy is unique to itself ect... Thanks! Last edited by Phtha; 01-21-2010 at 02:48 AM.

01-21-2010, 02:45 AM	#689
hippihillbobbi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oak Ridge, Tennessee, USA Posts: 120	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Dear Abraxas -- i wasn't gonna mention this, but after the last several messages on this thread I decided i would. it seems like to me that your responses to our questions have become a bit more biting in the last day or two. i don't want to come-off as a whiny-baby, but since the info you present is often so technical, i doubt there are that many of us here following this thread who can get everything you're saying. and considering the fact that Thuban "omniscience" is not subject to validation within our current scientific framework here on Gaia, i would think you'd be more politely accomodating of our human "ignorance." i fear some skeptics on this thread who may have communicated in a somewhat hostile manner have elicited some defensiveness on your part. am i intuiting wrongly about this, Abrax? as others have already said to you recently ........ there is certainly No Disrespect intended, Abraxas. gratefully (as ever) hippihill

01-21-2010, 04:40 AM	#690
Seafury Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 85	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) It is my understanding that the OP is channeling this information. If that is the case I would expect the emotions of the channel to bleed through in the form of some defensive emotion. The "attacks" are not all completely invalid. They are also being reciprocated with the energy they were given with. Just because an entity is more "advanced" in some way does not make them perfect. The OP is not attacking anyone who doesn't attack him. If someone wants to throw down, get ready to take one in the lip.

01-21-2010, 04:55 AM	#691
Myplanet2 In The Mists Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,133	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) What I'd really like to see is lots of plain language explanations. The scientific explanations are there for anyone who wants to check them out. But there is no reason this can't all be explained so anyone can understand, if they want to. In terms which are in common usage. When someone has to encode, or encrypt their messages, I have to wonder why? I would think anyone here to enlighten, would have making themselves understood as their first priority. Some of the Thuban data resonates with me, lots of it doesn't, but I don't really know how much of it I just don't understand. For example, I kind of got the impression that the Thuban had a somewhat possessive attitude towards Earth? Or did I read that wrong?

01-21-2010, 05:10 AM	#692
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi Dear Abraxas -- i wasn't gonna mention this, but after the last several messages on this thread I decided i would. it seems like to me that your responses to our questions have become a bit more biting in the last day or two. i don't want to come-off as a whiny-baby, but since the info you present is often so technical, i doubt there are that many of us here following this thread who can get everything you're saying. and considering the fact that Thuban "omniscience" is not subject to validation within our current scientific framework here on Gaia, i would think you'd be more politely accomodating of our human "ignorance." i fear some skeptics on this thread who may have communicated in a somewhat hostile manner have elicited some defensiveness on your part. am i intuiting wrongly about this, Abrax? No hippihillbobbi, you have intuited correctly! I have stated from the beginning, that from January 18th, these messages will be somewhat different in that a second component will be added to the questions and answers. This is because the sharing of the Thuban data will be seconded by the ET presence and the subject matter addressed via the linked websites; the tonyb/John Shadow posts and so on. This is a necessary part of the polarisation, which became implemented on said date. You may perceive it as a 'spiritual conflict' of the 2nd and 3rd Orders and as the 'real war' between archetypes. This so is NOT a physical 'conflict', but a 'conflict' between perceptions. The ET component will continue as before, but the nonET component will be 'biting' indeed and reflective of the 'war between perceptions'. Staging such a 'war' will help to avoid and to diminish physical catastrophies on the physical plane, because of the ability to absorb the energy of the groupmind controlling meme complexes. So considering the manner of address, the replies will either be a 'softer' ET response in support of the higher-dimensional agenda; or a 'harder' 'scientific' 'show me your mettle' approach based on logic and rationality. In the latter replies, the 'hiding' behind 'authority constructs' of any kind will be disallowed and the scientific or metaphysical skeptic will be asked to justify hisher objections on scientific grounds and not some verification by a 'higher authority'. In my free sharing of data, I have nothing 'to prove' to anyone. This data is given without asking for anything and can be ignored, peripherally looked at or analysed in detail. It is my ET connection, which induces me to share this data. My nonET agenda is rather tired of trying to interact with the ignoramus of a 'brainwashed' collective humanity. I'd rather play chess or computer games, than argue with 'armchair critics' knowing little else, but to critizise things they do not understand and are unwilling to consider. If would-be critics like Uncle John demand 'proof by authority', such as an university address, then said Uncle Johns should take efforts to familiarise themselves wirth the necessary nomenclature and semantics. Should the Uncle Johns present the technical questions, then of course I would be prepared to engage in a Physics 101 or a Cosmology 101. But where are the questions? The Uncle Johns accuse others of rhetoric and gibberish, whilst themselves being 'full of just that'. It's a VIBRATIONAL 'conflict' hillibillbobbi, not in regards to me, the messenger, but with the 'higher order' and the resonating vibrations will continue to share the ET data if they so desire. This same 'higher order' will also allow the messenger to apply hisher 'less than perfect' humanity to confront the dissonances. Lastly then, if no questions are asked, no questions shall be answered and the messenger can engage in other things. as others have already said to you recently ........ there is certainly No Disrespect intended, Abraxas. gratefully (as ever) hippihill AA=Abraxasinas+Anthony Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-21-2010 at 05:13 AM.

01-21-2010, 05:21 AM	#693
Gnosis5 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,659	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Sure, use some 'black magic' to conjure up the 'Great Evil Draconian' Faustus Satanicus. Then sell your soul to him for some 'petty cash' and the ability to discern the 'Fall of the Numbers' in the next draw of the lotto numbers. AA

01-21-2010, 05:22 AM	#694
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Seafury It is my understanding that the OP is channeling this information. If that is the case I would expect the emotions of the channel to bleed through in the form of some defensive emotion. The "attacks" are not all completely invalid. They are also being reciprocated with the energy they were given with. Just because an entity is more "advanced" in some way does not make them perfect. The OP is not attacking anyone who doesn't attack him. If someone wants to throw down, get ready to take one in the lip. Well said seafury! My last reply to hillibillbobbi attempted to convey your sentiments as stated here. This forum 'prides' itself in attempting to 'go behind the brainwashing of the general populus'. Then, when the 'extended science' {Yes Uncle Johns, ALL of the science you will or have encountered is TOTALLY MAINSTREAM, without Einstein bashing, quantum theory ridiculings and so forth whatsoever}, is presented; the 'skeptics' demand proof of and by the 'brainwashers' themselves. The Uncle Johns wish to have it both ways in having the 'brainwashers' support in their own 'brainwashed' understanding, as well as then 'questioning the brainwashers' as to the validity of their assumptions. AA

01-21-2010, 05:22 AM	#695
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Abrax, given that many of us cannot comprehend your advanced physics, is there anything you can tell us in simpler terms that will help us comprehend the data? I get lost with the dimensional arguments aspect of this thread. Can you provide more detail about this ET contact? Since you ae not channeling and have full *sight* gained after your events, is this ET the one that was infiltrated so to speak within your being?

01-21-2010, 05:32 AM	#696
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: No hippihillbobbi, you have intuited correctly! I have stated from the beginning, that from January 18th, these messages will be somewhat different in that a second component will be added to the questions and answers. This is because the sharing of the Thuban data will be seconded by the ET presence and the subject matter addressed via the linked websites; the tonyb/John Shadow posts and so on. This is a necessary part of the polarisation, which became implemented on said date. You may perceive it as a 'spiritual conflict' of the 2nd and 3rd Orders and as the 'real war' between archetypes. This so is NOT a physical 'conflict', but a 'conflict' between perceptions. The ET component will continue as before, but the nonET component will be 'biting' indeed and reflective of the 'war between perceptions'. Staging such a 'war' will help to avoid and to diminish physical catastrophies on the physical plane, because of the ability to absorb the energy of the groupmind controlling meme complexes. So considering the manner of address, the replies will either be a 'softer' ET response in support of the higher-dimensional agenda; or a 'harder' 'scientific' 'show me your mettle' approach based on logic and rationality. In the latter replies, the 'hiding' behind 'authority constructs' of any kind will be disallowed and the scientific or metaphysical skeptic will be asked to justify hisher objections on scientific grounds and not some verification by a 'higher authority'. In my free sharing of data, I have nothing 'to prove' to anyone. This data is given without asking for anything and can be ignored, peripherally looked at or analysed in detail. It is my ET connection, which induces me to share this data. My nonET agenda is rather tired of trying to interact with the ignoramus of a 'brainwashed' collective humanity. I'd rather play chess or computer games, than argue with 'armchair critics' knowing little else, but to critizise things they do not understand and are unwilling to consider. If would-be critics like Uncle John demand 'proof by authority', such as an university address, then said Uncle Johns should take efforts to familiarise themselves wirth the necessary nomenclature and semantics. Should the Uncle Johns present the technical questions, then of course I would be prepared to engage in a Physics 101 or a Cosmology 101. But where are the questions? The Uncle Johns accuse others of rhetoric and gibberish, whilst themselves being 'full of just that'. It's a VIBRATIONAL 'conflict' hillibillbobbi, not in regards to me, the messenger, but with the 'higher order' and the resonating vibrations will continue to share the ET data if they so desire. This same 'higher order' will also allow the messenger to apply hisher 'less than perfect' humanity to confront the dissonances. Lastly then, if no questions are asked, no questions shall be answered and the messenger can engage in other things. as others have already said to you recently ........ there is certainly No Disrespect intended, Abraxas. Abrax, I will repeat my question since it seems you don't think I have asked it. How does a sentinent being's memory and consciousness works? How is it non local? How is it recorded? Of course this is not a Physics question. Can we only ask questions about Physics and Cosmology? Thanks Uncle John

01-21-2010, 05:46 AM	#697
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Really, this forum 'prides' itself with that? I've never got that feeling here at all. To my perception it is just a bunch of people who know how brainwashed we are, and are trying to remedy the problem while taken exciting journeys from time to time. There is no overt pride here. I think that comment was a little bit of self projection dear abraxis. Do you believe in coincidence? Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas This forum 'prides' itself in attempting to 'go behind the brainwashing of the general populus'. AA Last edited by Phtha; 01-21-2010 at 05:54 AM.

01-21-2010, 06:04 AM	#698
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Phtha Hello friend Sirebard, I was hoping you could list all the different types of energy that you are aware of, and what their higher and lower harmonics manifest as, starting from the highest octave to lowest with each type. I'm curious as to whether there is only one type of energy that manifests differently in each density or if each type of energy is unique to itself ect... Thanks! Dear Phtah! One of the most prevalent (and justified) critiques of the skeptics is the prevalent use of the word 'Energy' by the 'alternative communities', inclusive the 'New Agers'; without a definitive description of what that 'Energy/Chi/Prana/Orgone/Mitogenetic Radiation/Spirit/...' actually is. Energy has a number of precise meanings in the disciplines of science and most generally in the mechanistic sense as 'The parameter or thing which has the capacity to do work'. This 'work doing' energy then becomes formalised (in equations and mathematical formulae), as the Force applied to displacement in Newtonian mechanics (say Torque=ForcexLeverarm in statics). Moving past classical mechanics into quantum mechanics, this 'workbased' Energy becomes 'quantized' say in the Radiation Laws of Max Planck and also the nuclear energy contained in Einstein's famous matter-energy equivalence in E=mc^2. Energy, in the modern sense so is a transformable quantity, measured in energy units (Joules and erg and Temperature couplings say). This the physicist understands through the 'Laws of Nature'. What the physicist does not yet understand; is that the quantum energy, heshe is able to describe in herhis formulations has its ORIGIN in a form of 'Energy' (the ones heshe doesn't understand) which made the one heshe knows a subset of the original one. Call it superenergy if you like, but the superenergy (linked to the ZPE) is the 'parent' of the physicist's energy. This can be thoroughly investigated and derived from the 'Big Bang' Energy, the 'Birth of the Universe' and in using the well defined equations of the physicist (Planck Parameters). Your question then becomes too general and ambiguous to define in the terms of the standard physics; because this standard physics associates PRECISE meaning to a term such as a 'harmonic'. Iow, the 'New Age' harmonic is related to the superenergy; whilst the physicists harmonic is associated with the Planck Law Energy E=hf. So now you must do many things to 'harmonise' the superenergy with the energy: 1. Define precisely how the superenergy relates to the energy 2. Find the manner of interaction between those energies 3. Formulate this interaction between parental and offspring energies 4. Apply, experiment with and test those formulations to the COMBINED superenergy+energy universe. Doing this you will find, that there is indeed an all-encompassing spirit or superenergy and quite amenable to definition by the formulations of the physicist's energy. If you read some of my earlier posts, I have given the details of this wormhole energy or 'ElectroMagnetoMonopolic Radiation' aka 'Holy Spirit' aka aka a number of times here. The many metaphysical systems found on this forum and other links; all can become patterned within a metaphysical superconstruct of this superenergy. AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-21-2010 at 06:07 AM.

01-21-2010, 06:13 AM	#699
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Phtha Really, this forum 'prides' itself with that? I've never got that feeling here at all. To my perception it is just a bunch of people who know how brainwashed we are, and are trying to remedy the problem while taken exciting journeys from time to time. There is no overt pride here. I think that comment was a little bit of self projection dear abraxis. Do you believe in coincidence? You like playing wordgames don't you. Replace the word 'pride' with 'statement of purpose' and you get a better 'meaning' of what I mean. Agreed, the word 'pride' was not the best choice. The word 'pride' also means a group of lions and they reflect on my motives for sure. If one types so many replies, the first word entering one's mind is often not the best choice, but should, on average convey the overall meaning. Jesters like you then sit in their judgement seats and nitpick sentences to find something to object to. Well done Phtah, you have done no service to your Ren of Ptah - the universal architect! AA

01-21-2010, 06:28 AM	#700
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Thanks Sirebard that is what I figured about energy. So we get all energy from this single supersource, and depending on the instrument we use to 'draw it' so to speak, is how it manifests itself in many different material forms, which are really just octaves(?) of each other, with of course all the 'tones' or grades in between. And through the harmonics that these instrument creat by just tapping into the energy, is how we access or are aware of the 'higher' or less distorted energies? And I have read through those, still lots of contemplation before I get a realization yet thought. Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Doing this you will find, that there is indeed an all-encompassing spirit or superenergy and quite amenable to definition by the formulations of the physicist's energy. If you read some of my earlier posts, I have given the details of this wormhole energy or 'ElectroMagnetoMonopolic Radiation' aka 'Holy Spirit' aka aka a number of times here. The many metaphysical systems found on this forum and other links; all can become patterned within a metaphysical superconstruct of this superenergy. AA

 

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01-21-2010, 06:46 AM	#701
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) I suppose I do Abraxas enjoy playing with words, so long as there is no harm done that is. But I see that you twisted my response around like I knew you would. You have also proven yourself bad at 'archetyping' on a few occasions, which is fair. I certainly don't nitpick on purpose or look for anything to disagree with, quite the opposite, but if things come up that I do disagree with that is not my fault entirely, and thanks to forums, being what they are, I can point them out. Often what you have been accusing others of you do yourself. That's not my fault. The reason I asked if you believe in coincidences or not was because of an interesting little book about 'how to start your own cult.' Have you read it? Anyways, I thought some of you might like to read these ten steps. I’ll list them below, for more details on each step click the link. http://www.mindpowernews.com/BuildACult.htm 1. Initiation vs. Instruction 2. Being Accessible 3. Imply Secret Knowledge 4. Remaining calm as if all-knowing 5. Create a detached involvement as if “you” are in a “higher place” 6. Connect deeply with the individual 7. “Chunk Up” whenever possible 8. Always allude to the mysterious 9. God-Like Confidence 10. Appeal to peoples needs and wants Coincidence? I’ll let you decide. I DO know that the the information is coming from a source that knows a heck of a lot more then I do, real or not. So I take the gems and dissolve the rest. And send my heart felt thanks. Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas You like playing wordgames don't you. Jesters like you then sit in their judgement seats and nitpick sentences to find something to object to. Well done Phtah, you have done no service to your Ren of Ptah - the universal architect! AA

01-21-2010, 06:48 AM	#702
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Well done Phtah, you have done no service to your Ren of Ptah - the universal architect! Abrax, please, could you tell us more of this universal architect?

01-21-2010, 07:06 AM	#703
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by UncleJohn Abrax, I will repeat my question since it seems you don't think I have asked it. How does a sentinent being's memory and consciousness works? How is it non local? How is it recorded? Of course this is not a Physics question. Can we only ask questions about Physics and Cosmology? Thanks Uncle John Hi Uncle John! I can read and know that you have asked this question. I also have answwered this question in great detail. Did you read the eaxample of the Rock at the end of my reply to you? Your unfamiliarity with my answer seems to be your statement above; namely the questions of consciousness and mind are NOT physics questions. Allow me to give you just one reference: "The Large, the Small and the Human Mind" by Roger Penrose; Cambridge University Press, 1997 from the Tanner Lectures, Cambridge, 1995. The nature of mind and consciousness is indeed a physics and cosmology question. But agreed, I presumed too much background and responded to your reply in reflecting your terms of description of the science I utilized. So I shall attempt to answer you in 'layman's terms'. How does a sentinent being's memory and consciousness works? How is it non local? How is it recorded? A sentient being is made up of dimensional or density bodies. Both of these labels require definition. The dimensions are interwoven as Linear- Rotational- and Vibrational 'Densities'. So the 3D space of length, breadth and width defines a Volume summed as Areas summed as linesegments say in a basic geometry. Movement in such a volume can then be translational-linear requiring the size or scale of a radius; but the dynamics can also be radius-independent in a 6-dimensional twistor or rotator space. When your small wristwatch reads 3 o'clock the angle between big hand and little hand is 90 degrees just as it is on the much bigger watch of Big Ben in London. Similarly, you can have oscillations (to and fro about a meanpoint or pivot) in a 3D volume space and this becomes a superposed 9D volume onto the 6D rotator space and the 3D translator space. So the 9 spacedimensions are COLOCAL with the experienced 3D volume of the 5 senses. The 9D space universe is holofractal, meaning that all volumes adding up to the volume of the universe are selfsimilar as holograms. In INTENSITY, the holograms are diminished proportional to the whole, but in terms of INFORMATION and MEMORY, all holograms contain and have access to the total sum of information. The 'soul' of a being occupies space, 9D vibrational space, but appearing to the senses as a 3D space. The 'soul' of any being occupying space so finds itself in a processing of the hologramic database accessible to it as part of the whole. The 'soul' of the individual so becomes a part-soul of the collective and because the collective ONE SOUL is the INTENSITY (meaning Superenergy) Totality of the defined universe, the Individual Soul shares in that totality with less intensity than the One Soul of the Source say. Any 'body' moving through space so interacts spacially and so with the DATA and MEMORY contained in that space relative to INTENSITY. The individual 'soul' becomes the Part Source-Energy of the Creator (say) with less intense MEMORY than its collectivity in ALL such souls. The RECORDING so occurs is the Space occupied and dynamically encountered. The physical descriptor for this process is the definition of a Space-Core Consciousness, namely the space occupied, say WITHOUT any MEMORY. This is the basis of my earlier reply in derivation and exposition. The 'soul' which has MEMORY, ADDS to its volume based core-consciousness in 'tapping' more and more superenergy from the universal holographic field of context, termed the Universe. This 'drawing the energy' engages the modulation of densities in terms of the DENSITIES encountered in the 9D superspace. In this manner than the concept of DENSITY and DIMENSION becomes coupled to the selfstates of big scale translation, small scale rotation and quantum scale vibration. A natural limit for the soul to experience 'duality' so is the 6th dimension as the 6th density bounds the translational degrees of freedom (XYZ axes) of the Translation (large scale movements) in the Rotation of the entity (small quantum rotations called spin, either up or down or clockwise or anticlockwise about the axes). 7th density and the 7th dimension so contains all radius-dependent and radius-independent or ANGULAR displacements. Likewise 10D will encompass all nondualistic vibrations in an even 'HIGHER SELFAWARENESS' because the frequency modulations or changes are defined in a closer RESONANCE (by the awareness operator df/dt) to the maximum as given at the 10D boundary (the wormhole). The NONLOCALITY (or quantum entanglement) of consciousness on the soul- and collective soul level so is the interaction of the soul-holograms in individuation with the space they occupy and encounter. As space is itself a hologram of the total intensity, all LOCALITY perceptions serve the individual soul to interact with the Total Universal Memory as a Data-Collector and MEMORIZER for and on behalf of the Totality aka the Prime Source (or Creator or God). Perhaps this exposition has clarified your query somewhat. AA

01-21-2010, 07:24 AM	#704
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by UncleJohn Hi Abrax, These 'formulations' are mathematical descriptions that are models of the real world. Where are the experiments to give evidence that these 'formulations' fit the real world? How could any scientist check anything without results of experiments? I have given clear indication of the energy levels associated with the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Geneva, Switzerland in my reply to bigmo, about #566. The Thuban science agenda is built on mainstream physics in the standard models of both cosmology and particle physics and can easily be checked and compared by anyone even vaguely familiar with the subject matter. The standard models are EXTENDED in revision not challenged in their basics. If I was to check just the Mathematics of your conjectures, I would require a paper with all the intermediary definitions, constructions, postulates and theorems clearly spelled out and documented. I would also need some experimental evidence linking this to the real world to make this worth my time. Accepted, but this factuality in no manner endorses your judgements of content you do not understand due to your unfamiliarities. Abrax, I know of no accepted scientist that have worked in a vacuum without peer review. Project Avalon is perhaps not the best place to present these results and associated discussions. Why do you think or imply that I wish to be an 'accepted scientist'? Why do you presume, that I wish to present 'my' science at project Avalon? You have asked a question and I have answered it with the data I can share. It is not 'my fault' that you are unfamiliar with the scientific terminologies. Again, I am curious why no mention of the Thuban Council in your earlier voluminous postings on the internet. This is because the transmission under the Thuban label was not 'commissioned' before November 30th, 2009. Please don't let me discourage you from posting here or answering my or other's questions. I find your postings very interesting to read. Thanks Uncle John You are not discouraging me. I simply find it a time wasting on your and similars behalf to request scientific validation of academia on a forum such as this. Perhaps it is precisely a requirement for ALIEN PHYSICS to be present on the earth plane BEFORE it appears to 'come from the stars'. If so, then the EMPOWERMENT of the New Humanity in scientific terms derives from the SELF-Empowerment of an 'alienated humanity'; rather than the 'alien dispensations' from quasi-Gods. There are deeper levels of perception Uncle John, than peer group acceptance and academic accreditation. AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-21-2010 at 07:27 AM.

01-21-2010, 07:36 AM	#705
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Sollve Abrax, I believe that when I'm delivering a message as a messenger I (the messenger) hold the total responsibility for that message and also for the recipient's understanding of that message. If I can't deliver the intended information enveloped withing the message with the verified (by me) full understanding of that message I have failed in deliviering the message. As a messenger I do everything I'm capable of to make sure my recipient understands the information given, which makes it necessary for me as the messenger to stretch my communicative skills and also to "think outside the box". A message without understanding is like sending an empty but in this case, fancy envelope. I am being responsible for delivering this message Sollve. I am NOT responsible for the recipient's understanding of the message. I was ASKED a question and replied to the best of my understanding of the question at that time. So I have NOT failed to deliver the message. You perhaps are a much more proficient and able deliverer of messages than I am Sollve. Do you agree with me or do you think it's up to all of us just to understand the parts we can and ignore the rest making the message in it's whole distorted and therefor not the original message? No, again you misconstrue the fact that I simply answered a pertinent question in the mind of the asker with a pertinent answer relative to my understandings. I was NOT trying to 'show off' or whatever other puerile motive you or anyone else is attempting to 'read into' my sharing of data. My intention is not to disrespect you in any way, but I feel that the people with the actual courage to ask for clarification helps us all to better understand all of this. I usually ask when I'm not fully understanding things, but if I would ask about everything I don't understand in this thread wouldn't be about Thuban anymore, it would be about answering my questions. I was NOT asked for clarification by Uncle John; but was indirectly perhaps, but nevertheless, accused of 'copying and pasting scientific gibberish' from other sites (one a phishing link only similar in name to my sites). I welcome all questions, scientific or otherwise and shall attempt to answer them in courtesy and respect. If I am not shown such basic courtesies, then I reserve the right to mirror back the 'discourtesies' to whence they came. All love, Sollve AA

01-21-2010, 07:38 AM	#706
Gnosis5 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,659	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Phtha I suppose I do Abraxas enjoy playing with words, so long as there is no harm done that is. But I see that you twisted my response around like I knew you would. You have also proven yourself bad at 'archetyping' on a few occasions, which is fair. I certainly don't nitpick on purpose or look for anything to disagree with, quite the opposite, but if things come up that I do disagree with that is not my fault entirely, and thanks to forums, being what they are, I can point them out. Often what you have been accusing others of you do yourself. That's not my fault. The reason I asked if you believe in coincidences or not was because of an interesting little book about 'how to start your own cult.' Have you read it? Anyways, I thought some of you might like to read these ten steps. I’ll list them below, for more details on each step click the link. http://www.mindpowernews.com/BuildACult.htm 1. Initiation vs. Instruction 2. Being Accessible 3. Imply Secret Knowledge 4. Remaining calm as if all-knowing 5. Create a detached involvement as if “you” are in a “higher place” 6. Connect deeply with the individual 7. “Chunk Up” whenever possible 8. Always allude to the mysterious 9. God-Like Confidence 10. Appeal to peoples needs and wants Coincidence? I’ll let you decide. I DO know that the the information is coming from a source that knows a heck of a lot more then I do, real or not. So I take the gems and dissolve the rest. And send my heart felt thanks. Thank you for the guideline, which of course is about harmonics too: On a higher harmonic some of those characteristics might be well intentioned. Look at the being directly and know/see what harmonic of attitude is the being operating from? What "incident" is the being sitting in that might need to be healed? will tell you more, personally, than any instruction book. Be willing to turn that mirror or have that mirror turned on yourself too. Also, ask yourself, how susceptible are you to falling into spiritual traps? The ego trap = status and maintenance of control and its inverse ("You hurt me", whine, whine, whine). Then there is what I affectionately call the "Hareem Trap" = greed and sensationalism (or its inverse). How proofed up are you? Know thyself first Here is a corresponding guideline from Max Sandor's "The Little Purple Notebook on How to Escape from this Universe" http://orunla.org/pnohteftu/ch434.html May we all be lifted up -- we are all special. peace, Gnosis

01-21-2010, 07:49 AM	#707
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Myplanet2 What I'd really like to see is lots of plain language explanations. The scientific explanations are there for anyone who wants to check them out. But there is no reason this can't all be explained so anyone can understand, if they want to. In terms which are in common usage. This is a rational and intelligent statement Myplanet2. I was under an erroneous impresumption, that Uncle John would be able to at least discern the answer to his questions from my reply. But instead of saying: 'Abraxas, I am unfamiliar with the scientific labels in your reply; could you translate for me into layman's terms?'; Uncle John 'accused' me of 'copy and paste' plagiarism from 'phishing sites' and of 'culling' scientific gibberish from academic sources. I have attempted to answer his queries 'in klayman's terms' after being asked to do so by him without his anti-Thuban innuendos. When someone has to encode, or encrypt their messages, I have to wonder why? I would think anyone here to enlighten, would have making themselves understood as their first priority. Perhaps familiarizing yourself with the language used by the sciences, will enlighten you to the fact that this kind of encoding is not one of elitism or the 'sequestering' of information. Mathematical and logical discourse can be rather enlightening itself. Some of the Thuban data resonates with me, lots of it doesn't, but I don't really know how much of it I just don't understand. For example, I kind of got the impression that the Thuban had a somewhat possessive attitude towards Earth? Or did I read that wrong? Oh yes we are so possessive in that WE have already 'taken over your world'. Thuban Rules! - In the Name of the Logos. AA

01-21-2010, 07:59 AM	#708
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Phtha Thanks Sirebard that is what I figured about energy. So we get all energy from this single supersource, and depending on the instrument we use to 'draw it' so to speak, is how it manifests itself in many different material forms, which are really just octaves(?) of each other, with of course all the 'tones' or grades in between. And through the harmonics that these instrument creat by just tapping into the energy, is how we access or are aware of the 'higher' or less distorted energies? Not so much octaves phtha; but a musician would be able to describe this better than me and know how to relate the musical harmonies and octaves to this superenergy (which you have intuited appropriately here relative the Thuban sciences). I am musically illiterate. The harmonics are more like the 'Harmony of the Spheres' after Pythagoras and Kepler. In the physics it becomes the famous Schroedinger Wave Equation, say as the harmonic bouncing of a 'particle' (as the universe) between two nodes as a Standing Wave Harmonic. Then the 'harmonics' obey the laws of quantum mechanics in the wavelength partitionings and such. And yes, the MUSIC, just as the MATHEMATICS form the UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE connecting all dimensions and densities. The FEELING Modes of the SPIRIT then KNOW instinctively or intuitively or telepathically of how to INTERPRET the 'harmonics' THROUGH the FEELINGS int activities, such as Dancing. Some simple mathematical harmonics are: The Beauty of Mathematics 1 x 8 + 1 = 9 12 x 8 + 2 = 98 123 x 8 + 3 = 987 1234 x 8 + 4 = 9876 12345 x 8 + 5 = 98765 123456 x 8 + 6 = 987654 1234567 x 8 + 7 = 9876543 12345678 x 8 + 8 = 98765432 123456789 x 8 + 9 = 987654321 1 x 9 + 2 = 11 12 x 9 + 3 = 111 123 x 9 + 4 = 1111 1234 x 9 + 5 = 11111 12345 x 9 + 6 = 111111 123456 x 9 + 7 = 1111111 1234567 x 9 + 8 = 11111111 12345678 x 9 + 9 = 111111111 123456789 x 9 +10= 1111111111 9 x 9 + 7 = 88 98 x 9 + 6 = 888 987 x 9 + 5 = 8888 9876 x 9 + 4 = 88888 98765 x 9 + 3 = 888888 987654 x 9 + 2 = 8888888 9876543 x 9 + 1 = 88888888 98765432 x 9 + 0 = 888888888 Brilliant, isn't it? And look at this symmetry: 1 x 1 = 1 11 x 11 = 121 111 x 111 = 12321 1111 x 1111 = 1234321 11111 x 11111 = 123454321 111111 x 111111 = 12345654321 1111111 x 1111111 = 1234567654321 11111111 x 11111111 = 123456787654321 111111111 x 111111111 = 12345678987654321 Mind Boggling... Now, take a look at this... 101% >From a strictly mathematical viewpoint: What Equals 100%? What does it mean to give MORE than 100%? Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%? We have all been in situations where someone wants you to GIVE OVER 100%... How about ACHIEVING 101%? What equals 100% in life? Here's a little mathematical formula that might help answer these questions: If: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Is represented as: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26. Then: H-A-R-D-W-O- R- K 8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98% And: K-N-O-W-L-E- D-G-E 11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+ 5 = 96% But: A-T-T-I-T-U- D-E 1+20+20+9+20+ 21+4+5 = 100% THEN, look how far the love of God will take you: L-O-V-E-O-F- G-O-D 12+15+22+5+15+ 6+7+15+4 = 101% Therefore, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that: While Hard Work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, It's the Love of God that will put you over the top! SAEPE EXPERTUS, SEMPER FIDELIS, FRATRES AETERNI (Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever) __._,_.___ And I have read through those, still lots of contemplation before I get a realization yet thought. AA

01-21-2010, 08:05 AM	#709
Raven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Void Posts: 49	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Perhaps familiarizing yourself with the language used by the sciences, will enlighten you to the fact that this kind of encoding is not one of elitism or the 'sequestering' of information. Mathematical and logical discourse can be rather enlightening itself. This is very true. And with this statement I can truely see that math is a language unto itself and even though my 'fluency' in it isn't all that great, this thread and discourse makes me wish to understand it more. Thank you abraxas. Raven *Goes back to reading the holigraphic universe again for the umpteenth time*

01-21-2010, 08:20 AM	#710
JesterTerrestrial Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ontario, Earth, Milky Way, Love, Infinity x2 Posts: 5,267	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas AA L-O-V-E-O-F- G-O-D 12+15+22+5+15+ 6+7+15+4 = 101% I Love it! That just made my day! Quote: I shall publish details when so appropriate dear Jester of the Universe. AA Thanks for the previous post/reply. With out any specific information I would say that was a statement about no thing...but I can't prove it Quote: Oh yes we are so possessive in that WE have already 'taken over your world'. Thuban Rules! - In the Name of the Logos. Wait a min...HUH?! PEACE!!! JT !SCHOOL 101

01-21-2010, 08:30 AM	#711
Phtha Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 947	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Abraxas many thanks for that post. I'm not a mathematician but that post brought music to mine eyes and will bring much pleasure to absorb over time. Was John Dee responsible for the creation or at least refining of the English language? Are any mysteries NOT hidden within it? And thank you Gnosis5 for the information and thoughts to ponder upon. I agree with all you said friend. It is also only fair for me to make a clear point, as I should have done in that other post... that those "Cult Creation" steps generalize... so it is often unfair to base all situations on 'basic steps'. Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas The Beauty of Mathematics AA

01-21-2010, 08:51 AM	#712
Jonah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sacramento Ca Posts: 366	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) And what is to become of the council once its term is served? Are they to live in a quarantine of a higher dimension?

01-21-2010, 08:52 AM	#713
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by eleni Abrax, given that many of us cannot comprehend your advanced physics, is there anything you can tell us in simpler terms that will help us comprehend the data? I get lost with the dimensional arguments aspect of this thread. Can you provide more detail about this ET contact? Since you ae not channeling and have full *sight* gained after your events, is this ET the one that was infiltrated so to speak within your being? Dear Eleni! Why is it such a 'crime' to answer one of the most asked questions in modern science - that of what mind and consciousness are - with a 'science based answer'? Is it any wonder the 'skeptic societies' and media outlets have such a 'humerous time' in their debunkings of the 'New Age Energy Concepts'? I made a mistake in presuming Uncle John's familiarity with fundamental physical semantics - it is only Newtonian Mechnics basically not Tensor differential geometry or lie group algebraic theory by the way. Now all the wormwoods are crawling out of their holes accusing me to either be a plagiarist from 'real academic' sources or a 'show off' with words. What am I doing here? I have 'worked' on these things for decades and have not need nor desire 'to prove' my credentials to anyone. My ET connection began in November 1975 with a vision of Calvary. I then experienced a REAL PHYSICAL encounter with an interdimensional being of the 'darkness' in June 1976 (and during the night). Years later, in March 1985, I experienced a second vision, this time from 'what you consider outside the material universe, call it the 12D if you like. In January that year I discovered a mathematical algorithm linked to the Mayan supernumber (Dresden Codex 13356) becoming the SECOND Order of a First Order originator (266561). These numbers emerged from my rediscovery of the Fibonacci Mechanisms. I had just recently finished my University degree, when a great thunderstorm hit Brisbane, Queensland, Australia and a particular arrangement of numbers seemed to translate via my understanding of Mathematics/Physics principles into a collection of data triplets {Formally (OldState;Experience;NewState)}. I decoded the iterative tripletstate and found the 'Experience Factors' to be: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,.... Exitedly I thought I had discovered a new Mathematical Series and it took me a week or so to discover that Leonardo da Pisa aka Fibonacci had already discovered this series of numbers over 600 years earlier. BUT I had in fact rediscovered this series in a different application, than in counting rabbit populations. My rediscovery appeared to allow a modelling of the information/data transmission within the universe itself and I then was able to model this as a binary algorithm of the {0,1} selfstate. Years later then, I knew that this became the superstring theory, first popularised at that time by Schwarz and Green at the same time but unbeknown to me. I did not know of the details of string theory until 2001. From then on I began to reconstruct (or backward engineer) the Universe. The vision two months later confirmed the value to follow this path and then in May 1985 I experienced my second PHYSICAL encounter, but this time in broad daylight and of a 'LightBeing'. Then in March 1995 the ET connection exploded in implosion by the 'blending of souls' in bilocality - the 3D space could communicate with the 12D space through the common Logos. 2004 I lost my eldest daughter to suicide and my physical condition deteriorated (I am presently only a physical wreck unable to walk or stand up without great tremors and muscle spasms). Then in January 2006 I experienced a NDE/OBE searching for my daughter and in June 2008 a timeline I had worked on for decades, suddenly fell into place. It is this timeline, coinciding with many ideas and intuitions by many here, which 'authorized' me to share the data I had accumulated over the years since November 1975 in a manner different from the path I had pursued hitherto (my website and yahoo discussion forums). The first 'trigger' was August 29th, 2009 and the second November 30th, 2009. After the November date, I perceived the preparation period of the Logos (not mine) to have began and I 'stumbled' onto this forum through the PA interview with Greer. I joined, was banned as a 'disinformant' or infiltrator and was reinstated after querying my dismissal. Knowing the 3rd trigger of January 18th in the Logos timeline, I then decided to share data on this forum under the Thuban label, which is a simple relabeling of the 66=WOMAN=FREEDOM=ANUBIS=THE AMEN=...THUBAN archetype. The ET contact is real, as it relates to the 1995 implosion of the outside-inside universe. It is of ABSOLUTE UNIMPORTANCE what anyone here or elsewhere thinks or 'makes' of this information and I shall not elaborate on this; as the Persona, contraindicative what many may 'think' of the agenda of this; is utterly unimportant. I would rather be in a similar position to the James Wingmaker data (which I almost fully support) and remain in total anonymity. But I have reluctantly realised, that the time is short and should MY Logos BE agreeable, THEN to share this Thuban material is required for the fulfilment of that timeline. To be in anonynym does not help the 'unknown' to be at least partially discovered. Perhaps the following poem accentuates my rather 'reluctant position' to even be here to 'answer questions'. I'd rather be left alone. The Poem of Malachi It is not I, who claims to know and understand the secrets of the universe but the One, that sent me to proclaim the true God in divers many a verse. I am but a corrupted mirror for the One who rules and who does know without him as her I could not say a thing, but melt away like snow. But a dirty mirror yet can reflect the lights and shades of the truth so divine to honour in glory and in remembrance, the One preparing the way sublime. Should I be just another deluded fool, walking the earth in itself divided there have indeed been many such men often in word and deed onesided; then it doesn't matter how the story unfolds and how the tale might end and the prose will be as nothing, the words of a false prophet self-sent. But if the One who sent me is true and in wisdom of the heavenly gold then a new world can be born from the remnants of the whithering old. Then the prophet will be known to have been true to God's own lot never mind the real fools, who belittle, ridicule and say that it cannot. The wisdom of God is more potent, then the knowledge of vanity Man God rejoices in your heart's message: "Yes, indeed, I can understand!" Know that all of you are Israelites and the Blood of Jacob's well the gentiles of Paul are your kindred folks, sounding an alien bell. Ezekiel's siege of Israel has now begun in earnest on 9-7-9 D.O.B. with Jeremiah, all of the old prophets returned to finish their Job. The holy land, your promised land is renown as the mother planet earth Your bodies are the temple of God, Jerusalem both new and old in dearth. Malachi - The Last Prophet Abraxas Anthony

01-21-2010, 09:50 AM	#714
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Phtha I suppose I do Abraxas enjoy playing with words, so long as there is no harm done that is. But I see that you twisted my response around like I knew you would. Of course you knew all along that I am here to gain a following to build a cult. You have also proven yourself bad at 'archetyping' on a few occasions, which is fair. Well perhaps illuminating your statement with details and examples would serve your pirpose a little better than generalisations here. I certainly don't nitpick on purpose or look for anything to disagree with, quite the opposite, but if things come up that I do disagree with that is not my fault entirely, and thanks to forums, being what they are, I can point them out. Often what you have been accusing others of you do yourself. That's not my fault. Please show me where I have accused anyone of anything after not having become accused beforehand. Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who is the accuser of them all? The reason I asked if you believe in coincidences or not was because of an interesting little book about 'how to start your own cult.' Have you read it? I am not very interested in cults. Anyways, I thought some of you might like to read these ten steps. I’ll list them below, for more details on each step click the link. http://www.mindpowernews.com/BuildACult.htm 1. Initiation vs. Instruction Little instruction by and of Thuban data; just throwing the 'pearls' before the 'hogs' to trample on it - mostly there are majestic unicorns as well. Initiation - whatever you make of it - do you feel initiated? 2. Being Accessible Yes, this is the Q and A idea. 3. Imply Secret Knowledge Yes, so the Secret Knowldge is Secret No Longer. 4. Remaining calm as if all-knowing No, I get rather agitated and annoyed by the hogs - but selfcontrol is possible and the unicorns enliven the purgatory. 5. Create a detached involvement as if “you” are in a “higher place” Certainly no detachment, like in a movies; you see it; you hear it; you live it; you become absorbed and you identify with the story; you BE it. 6. Connect deeply with the individual As far as the vibrational resonances allow to do so. Some you can 'read' others are more difficult to do so - especially the biased tunnel visoned ones. 7. “Chunk Up” whenever possible I do not know what this means. I prefer English English (colour) over the American English (color). Chunking up might mean making it bigger than it is. If that is what is meant - No, the 'truth of the Logos' requires no 'chunking up'. 8. Always allude to the mysterious No, to solve and do away with the mysteries and paradoxes is the Thuban agenda. 9. God-Like Confidence I wish! It's basically impossible to BE the Logos; but one can assimilate as One - trying to. 10. Appeal to peoples needs and wants This is a nonsensical statement. Why would the Thuban Council appeal to anything; if it is sent by the Logos? The data is meant to enrich, allow perspectives and choices. This is unrelated to 'needs and wants' of people in the meaning of the words. Coincidence? Coincidence has nothing to do with those questions, unless you imply that Thuban is seeking cultish leadership. I’ll let you decide. I DO know that the the information is coming from a source that knows a heck of a lot more then I do, real or not. So I take the gems and dissolve the rest. And send my heart felt thanks. Ok; I'll decide. Thuban is a pretend smokescreen of pretend information, which is just a plagiarism of well credentialled academic sources masquerading as 'real science' of a new world. The Thubanese are old Draconians who like to eat people for breakfast and to gather food resources; the Thubanese have decided to infiltrate the world's most important discussion forum: Project Avalon. Here then the agenda is to brainwash the forum contributors with scientific sounding but really worthless information and for the purpose to gain as many followers of the Thubanese philosophy as possible. Then when the critical mass of cult followers has been reached, the true Draconian Reptoids will appear and harvest their brainwashed followers. This will be accomplished in invading the old earth shortly after December 21st, 2012 through a Black Hole-White Hole monadic dyad opening up halfway between Sirius and Gaia and wormhole connected to the Orion starsystem. The Powers-That-Be of the old earth will be powerless to stop US; because they had thought that WE would allow them to be our ambassadors of the new earth and in thinking of themselves as the elite. WE shall eat them for lunch; but they dont know that yet; although some of them suspect that WE are deceiving them. And so WE shall rule the New Earth and in a few years, say 2015, WE shall reengineer the deteriorated wormhole channels to allow our Draconian brothers and sisters to join US on OUR new homeplanet SERPENTINA. From then on, SERPENTINA will be a BLACK DRAGONSTAR. All of the old humanity will have been consumed by US and WE shall DRAGONSEED a HybridRace between OURSELVES and OUR Ancestrial Lineages. But first of all, WE have to create the Thuban Dragon Cult and this and only this is the purpose of Abraxas. So Be It! Signed and Sealed in the Name or Amen of the Master-Templar by Abraxasinas Scribe of the Dragons aka the SolarArrowed Unicorn of the SeaGoatian Dragonhorns entwined with the Hermetic FisherEagle of the Lunar Twins. AA

01-21-2010, 10:13 AM	#715
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by UncleJohn Abrax, please, could you tell us more of this universal architect? Hi Uncle John! A little Egyption History and Mythology is appropriate. [Robert Sceptico and Logan Antico meet in the cafe 'Solaris', near the Conference Hall on campus of New Alexandria University. They had both just attended a symposium on the relevance of mythos to the paradigm of modern scientific thought and analysis.] Logan Antico: "Did you not think that the talk by the Egyptian Mythology specialist has relevance to our science and its modus operandi, Robert? The Egyptian doggod and 'Guide of the Dead', Anubis, is known as the 'Khaibit' or Shadow. He's the jackal-headed statue atop the sarcophagi and the watchdog to the entombed mummies." Robert Sceptico: "Well, one can superimpose a scientific meaning onto the written hieroglyphic encodings, I guess. I did find the poetic riddle, ascribed to the Ibisgod Thoth interesting though. Thoth is known as Hermes Trismegistos, keeper of the tripartite wisdom to the Greeks and the Egyptians and is renown as the founder of alchemy, the old ancestral chemistry. And his symbol is the Caduceus; the symbol of the medical profession as the 'Staff of Healing' of the Greek physician Aesculapius, modelled on the Egyptian healer-priest Imhotep and the god Nefertum, son of the 'masonic God' Ptah and his wife Sekhmet at the capital of Memphis. The Caduceus has two serpents, one white and one black, intertwining in the infinity symbol around the staff; it's also the 'Serpent Rod' of Aaron and Moses, coded in Exodus.7.10-15. Our practising doctors have lost one of the serpents in their medical history - to image their opposition to holistic principles, which they consider unscientific, I suppose." Robert Sceptico: "There is even a western tradition of initiation, which draws upon this partial understanding of the ancient covenant as coded in the scrolls of antiquity. The concepts of freemasonry for instance draw much upon the Egyptian wisdom scrolls of the Ibis-God Thoth and its companion of the Architect-Bull-God Apis-Ptah, both in league with the old Sun-God Ra, centred as the Family of Ra in the Egyptian capitol city of Memphis at the time of the 'Old Kingdom' say the 3rd to 6th dynasties from 2750 BC to 2255 BC and encompassing pharaohs such as Zoser, Khufu and Pepi. The centralised Egyptian government had collapsed by about 2230 BC of the 7th and 8th dynasties in an intermediate period and the gain of political importance by nonroyal administrators saw a shift from the Egyptian capital from Memphis to Heracleopolis in dynasties 9 and 10 and then to Thebes in the 'Middle Kingdom' of dynasties 11 to 13 and the period from about 2134 to 1668 BC. Pharaoh Mentuhotep II succeeded to 'reunify' Egypt about 2047 BC and the 12th dynasty king Amenemhet reestablished Memphis as a capital and the Family of Ra was renamed as the Family of Amon-Ra, after the pharaohic lineages. The biblical time of Joseph is placed into the reign of Amenhetep, with Joseph's '17th birthday' in 1976 BC, coded in Genesis.37.2 and the sojourn of 'Jacob' (like Joseph as quasihistorical figure), can be dated as Jacob's '130th birthday' to 1954 BC and his 'death' at 1937 BC, (Genesis.47.9,28). A 'golden age' of Egyptian art, literature and architecture ended when invaders from Palestine, often called 'shepherd kings of Hyksos' assumed foreign rulership over the eastern delta from their capital Avaris and spanning the 14th to 18th dynasties from 1720 BC to 1570 BC; when Ahmose I finally subdued the Hyksos in Egypt's reunification and to end the Hyksos interlude. The 18th dynasty then began the 'New Kingdom', which would last until 1070 BC and encircles the biblical characters of Moses and Aaron and Joshua. The birth of Aaron and Moses under the Theban unification of Horemheb is dated at 1322 and 1319 BC respectively, coded in Exodus.2.4,14; Numbers.33.38-39 and Deuteronomy.34.7., with 1279 BC as the 390th year of the Egyptian captivity and 40 years in the wilderness of Sinai ending 1199 BC. In 1669 BC, the 'Egyptian bondage' for the 'Children of Israel' began and would last for 430 years until the Exodus in 1239 BC under pharaoh Ramses II, ruling from 1291 BC to 1224 BC in the 19th dynasty. During the 18th dynasty, Amenhotep III, who reigned from 1386 to 1349 BC renamed the sungod Ra as Aton and his son Amenhotep IV, reigning from 1349 BC to 1334 BC, abandoned the capital Thebes for Akhetaton, renamed himself Ikhnaton (or Akhenaton, meaning Aton is satisfied) and with his queen Nefertiti sought to instigate a monotheistic religion as the first historical figure to do so. The religious reformation was shortlived however, with Ikhnaton's son Tutankhamen returning the capital to Thebes and returning to the old rituals of the priests who had fought any attempts to undermine the authority of the God Amon and his polytheistic following. But Ikhnaton's 'One God' represented a religious revolution in proclaiming Aton to be the one and only true God; a legacy of the idea and story of 'Joseph's God' who helped Joseph's notoriety as a capable 'interpreter of dreams', coded in Genesis.40.5-23; 41.1-46." Logan Antico: "This would have been the Egyptian form of gnosis, the 'Teacher of Righteousness' in the form of Thoth transmuting into Hermes Trismegistos in parallel with Amon-Ra becoming the 'One true God' of Ikhnaton and Nefertiti and absorbing the qualities of Thoth and Ptah in the process. The symbol of freemasonry are the encircled 'Mason's Tools', which are associated with the hieroglyphic 'cartouche' of the 'Ren' or name of Ptah as the archetype for Ra as the universal spirit Atum or Aton, which had built and created the universe. And so the Western esoteric traditions are attempting to play the role of 'Joseph in Egypt' as the cosmic 'Teacher of Righteousness' initiating the ones, who are able to guard and wisely use the knowledge of the true understanding." Robert Sceptico: "Furthermore, Ptah is said to have been married to Sekhmet, who was a lionheaded goddess and the daughter of Ra as the symbolic right or solar eye of Ra; the lunar left eye being the 'all seeing eye' of Horus, who in the third generation of the Egyptian family of gods married Sekhmet as the bullheaded goddess Hathor, symbolised by a mirror. Originally, Ra or Atum thought of himself as righteyed as herself and in using a mirror, he created an image in the lefteyed serpent Apep, who refused to play any games with his image as himself however. In his displeasure, Ra threw his right solar eye at Apep, who had to image this in his left lunar eye. But this allowed a second generation as the twinship of lefteyed Shu and righteyed Tefnut in the Egyptian Lion of Truth to become born in a release of creative energy of reproduction and through Ra masturbating to release his seed in her as Apep's image and so fertilising the SkyEarth. The righteyed Geb became the Earth and the lefteyed Nut became the lifted Sky and then they created the third generation in the lefteyed Osiris and the righteyed Isis, doubled in a mirrored twinship in the righteyed Set and the lefteyed Nephthys. The fourth generation so could intermarry for genetic variablity in the doubled twinship. Osiris, as the Djed or 'Tree of Life' became an archetype for the number 1 as the Khu or 'Spirit' and Isis became the number 2 as the Ab or the 'Throne of the Heart'. Their children became numbers 3 and 4 as the righteyed Horus of the 'All Seeing Eye' and the 'Spiritual Body' of the Sahu; and the lefteyed Bast or Pasht of the 'Sistrum' in the Ba of the 'Soul'. Now Set and Nephthys also had a child in Anubis, the Khaibit or Shadow of the Jackal-headed 'Opener of the Way' and the 'Guide of the Dead; but the story goes, that the fatherhood of Anubis is in dispute. Osiris is said to have had a loveaffair with both of his 'sisters' Isis and Nephthys to reproduce his own lefteyedness in a son to an also lefteyed mother. And so Anubis was born, knowing that he was lefteyed after his mother Nephthys, but he was initially confused because he could not image the righteyedness of his supposed father Set, there was an uncleanliness about his image as the image of his father, imaging the lefteyedness of his father's brother Osiris. Anubis was like a shadow between the right eye imaging the left as well as the other way around. But as Anubis pondered his origins, he came across his grandparents testimony and it dawned upon him, that the ever repeating generations of the cleanly sexed oneeyednesses could be made impure in stopping the generations going on and on infinitely. Anubis went to his grandparents and asked them if they would be willing to extend the fourth generation in archetypical blueprint and they agreed and their parents agreed also. And so righteyed Geb became renamed as Tehuti or Thoth as the number 5 and as the Ibis or 'Mind' and symbolised in the Caduceus, as the 'Lord of Time', 'Keeper of the Akashic Records', Scribe to the Gods' and 'Patron of the Healers'. Anubis' lefteyed grandmother Nut became the archetypical number 6 as Maat, symbolised in a 'White Feather of Truth', given to her by her mother Tefnut, renamed as the stargoddess Seshat; because she had existed before the Sky was born as Nut and the Earth was born as Geb. Now the legacy of Seshat was the right solar eye of Tefnut and Seshat could now give that legacy to her granddaughter Maat in a renaming of lefteyed Maat as the righteyed Sekhmet. And so the Sekhem or 'Power' was given to the hieroglyph of the number 6 and the symbol of the mirror, reflecting the right eye in the left eye and vice versa. Now righteyed Thoth could relate as archetypical brother to lefteyed Osiris and righteyed Set and lefteyed Maat could relate as archetypical sister to righteyes Isis and lefteyed Nephthys. Righteyed Horus was however matched with his lefteyed twinsister Bast and lefteyed Anubis had no righteyed companion whatsoever. And Anubis found the key in the testimony of his greatgrandparents Shu and Tefnut, the leonine twinship of the Egyptian Truth. After the SkyEarth of Shu and the EarthSky of Tefnut had been created by Ra's seed in his imagination; the righteyed Tefnut and the lefteyed Shu were as one and Ra decreed that they could not reproduce to be separated yet again as he had been before he had created the heshe-shehe duality in one; that is a circle of 360 days could not be broken any more in the linearity of the serpent Apep. But righteyed Ra had looked at lefteyed Apep in the commonly created righteyed-lefteyed ShuTefnut mirror and they both had seen a righteyed Thoth and a lefteyed Maat as their potential grandchildren in the mirror. And righteyed Thoth was willing to play a game of checkers chess with Ra, imagining to be the image of the image as a lefteyed goddess of the mirror, also known as Hathor or Athyr, and being the 'Goddess of Beauty and Love' and the 'Patroness of Womanhood' in Ra's imagination. And Ra fell madly in love with his own imagination as herself as Hathor and so both, the solar right eye of the day and the lunar left eye of the night became extended as one part in 72 or 10 degrees in 360 degrees in a new cycle, and those five days allowed Geb and Nut to be born as the children of Shu and Tefnut, separated from the oneness of the 360 degrees for five days and five nights." Logan Antico: "And exactly this is coded in the bible as a mysterious passage noone, to my knowledge, has ever deciphered in a logical correspondence to the facts: Isaiah.38.7-8: "And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he has spoken; Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sundial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down." Then Ahaz is symbolised by the sungod Ra, for AHAZ=1+8+1+26=36=18+18=RR=GOD+10 and 10 times 36 being the closure of the circle again." Robert Sceptico: "A nice example for how the mythologies of ancient Egypt are found in the bible, if one can only decode the mysterious passages through omniscience. And Ra is Yahwhey the God of the Hebrews, just as it is the God of Ikhnaton and Nefertiti. But 10 children became born, five for the day and five for the night, all together constituting a new creation; the first five children being Osiris with Isis and Set with Nephthys and an archetype, who could combine the duality of right and left in one. This mutation is the Egyptian Christ in a starborn Horus, who can be said to be in the womb of Isis, before she became pregnant by Osiris. And there you have the continuity of the ten archetypes in Hathor becoming the lefteyed number 6 relative to the righteyed Horus as the number 3. Bast as the lefteyed archetypical number 4 becomes the lovematch for a righteyed Anubian image, who as the 'Shadow' perfectly mirrors the duality of the number 6 as the archetype of the number 9. The number 7 is then taken by Nephthys as the 'Sacred Chalice', containing the seeds of both the lefteyed Osiris and the righteyed Set to bring forth the 'Shadow' of the 'Starborn Horus' in the Sahu of the 'Spiritual Body'; the 'Physical Body' or Khat, being the archetypical number 10=1+0 in Set. The lefteyed 'Doubleseeded Soul' of Nephthys then is known as the Ka.The five shadows for Osiris, Isis, Nephthys, Set and Horus so become Geb/Thoth, Nut/Maat/Bast, Tefnut/Sekhmet, Shu/Ptah and Anubis in the order specified. The righteyed Stargoddess Seshat as Tefnut is matched to the lefteyed Ptah as Shu in the undifferentiated SkyEarth, manifesting as righteyed Sekhmet and lefteyed Ptah in the Memphian Family. Righteyed Sekhmet becomes lefteyed Hathor in relationship with righteyed Horus, who is also represented as lefteyed Ptah through his 'starborn' status and doubling the archetypical number 6 in a bisexuality reflected in the Anubian number 9. The righteyed Anubis is matched to lefteyed Bast in archetypes 9 and 4; and the lefteyed Anubis is matched to righteyed Seshat via the twoeyed 'starsisterbrother' Sekhmet-Anubis in the mirror of 69. Sekhmet's 6 interchanges with Hathor's 6 in Seshat's 6 and matches in the righteyed Horus coupling with the lefteyed Hathor and lefteyed Horus coupling with righteyed Sekhmet in 3 and in 6. The lefteyed Anubis so becomes the 'real shadow' for the 'unreal' lefteyed Horus and the 'real shadow' of 'unreal' righteyed Anubis becomes the lefteyed Horus in the mirror of the 69=96. Merging the 'starry twinships' then results in a twoeyed Horus lovematched to a twoeyed Hathor-Sekhmet and Anubis matched to a twoeyed Seshat-Bast. The righteyed Anubis is also the righteyed Thoth and the lefteyed Bast is also the lefteyed Maat. Ptah is the archetypical number 8 and the hieroglyphic Ren or 'Name' as the Logos or Word of Christ and the 'Amen' of the Egyptian pharaohs." Logan Antico: "This is the number-letter code in some hieroglyphic form; say you define the archetypical number 6 in a right-left-right, or even-odd-even sequence in: Sekhmet*-Hathor-Sekhmet=24-15-6; then you can define the archetypes in resonating letters of the alphabet; here in X-O-F. The highest frequency is a unified principle in a 'stargoddess' say as 24 in the symbol for the Egyptian Ankh or Cross in 24=15+9=2+4=1+5=6 and the number 15 becoming a starsymbol for Sirius, associated with Hathor's mirror say and the numeral 6 representing the named goddesses in its archetype." Robert Sceptico: "Indeed, and you find the reason for the continuing Egyptian mythology, which tells the story of Set becoming jealous of his brother Osiris's popularity with the Egyptians as a God of fertility and of being the God of the Spirit or Khu; Set being the God of the Body or Khat. So Set, with 72 companions builds a box or sarcophagus as a pretend gift for Osiris and invites his brother to a banquet in his honour; during which Set asks Osiris to lay in the sarcophagus to see if it fits his size. When in the sarcophagus, Set shut the coffer's lid and threw it into the Nile, where Osiris drowned; and his corpse was carried to Byblos, where the lamenting Isis found it near a tamarisk tree and then brought it back into Egypt. Set then cut Osiris into 14 pieces and caused all the pieces to be spread around Egypt." AA

01-21-2010, 10:31 AM	#716
Firedrake Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 59	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Ok; I'll decide. Thuban is a pretend smokescreen of pretend information, which is just a plagiarism of well credentialled academic sources masquerading as 'real science' of a new world. The Thubanese are old Draconians who like to eat people for breakfast and to gather food resources; the Thubanese have decided to infiltrate the world's most important discussion forum: Project Avalon. Here then the agenda is to brainwash the forum contributors with scientific sounding but really worthless information and for the purpose to gain as many followers of the Thubanese philosophy as possible. Then when the critical mass of cult followers has been reached, the true Draconian Reptoids will appear and harvest their brainwashed followers. This will be accomplished in invading the old earth shortly after December 21st, 2012 through a Black Hole-White Hole monadic dyad opening up halfway between Sirius and Gaia and wormhole connected to the Orion starsystem. The Powers-That-Be of the old earth will be powerless to stop US; because they had thought that WE would allow them to be our ambassadors of the new earth and in thinking of themselves as the elite. WE shall eat them for lunch; but they dont know that yet; although some of them suspect that WE are deceiving them. And so WE shall rule the New Earth and in a few years, say 2015, WE shall reengineer the deteriorated wormhole channels to allow our Draconian brothers and sisters to join US on OUR new homeplanet SERPENTINA. From then on, SERPENTINA will be a BLACK DRAGONSTAR. All of the old humanity will have been consumed by US and WE shall DRAGONSEED a HybridRace between OURSELVES and OUR Ancestrial Lineages. But first of all, WE have to create the Thuban Dragon Cult and this and only this is the purpose of Abraxas. So Be It! Signed and Sealed in the Name or Amen of the Master-Templar by Abraxasinas Scribe of the Dragons aka the SolarArrowed Unicorn of the SeaGoatian Dragonhorns entwined with the Hermetic FisherEagle of the Lunar Twins. AA ...... Soups on!

01-21-2010, 10:36 AM	#717
Sollve Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 45	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Ok; I'll decide. Thuban is a pretend smokescreen of pretend information, which is just a plagiarism of well credentialled academic sources masquerading as 'real science' of a new world. The Thubanese are old Draconians who like to eat people for breakfast and to gather food resources; the Thubanese have decided to infiltrate the world's most important discussion forum: Project Avalon. Here then the agenda is to brainwash the forum contributors with scientific sounding but really worthless information and for the purpose to gain as many followers of the Thubanese philosophy as possible. Then when the critical mass of cult followers has been reached, the true Draconian Reptoids will appear and harvest their brainwashed followers. This will be accomplished in invading the old earth shortly after December 21st, 2012 through a Black Hole-White Hole monadic dyad opening up halfway between Sirius and Gaia and wormhole connected to the Orion starsystem. The Powers-That-Be of the old earth will be powerless to stop US; because they had thought that WE would allow them to be our ambassadors of the new earth and in thinking of themselves as the elite. WE shall eat them for lunch; but they dont know that yet; although some of them suspect that WE are deceiving them. And so WE shall rule the New Earth and in a few years, say 2015, WE shall reengineer the deteriorated wormhole channels to allow our Draconian brothers and sisters to join US on OUR new homeplanet SERPENTINA. From then on, SERPENTINA will be a BLACK DRAGONSTAR. All of the old humanity will have been consumed by US and WE shall DRAGONSEED a HybridRace between OURSELVES and OUR Ancestrial Lineages. But first of all, WE have to create the Thuban Dragon Cult and this and only this is the purpose of Abraxas. So Be It! Signed and Sealed in the Name or Amen of the Master-Templar by Abraxasinas Scribe of the Dragons aka the SolarArrowed Unicorn of the SeaGoatian Dragonhorns entwined with the Hermetic FisherEagle of the Lunar Twins. AA Hehe, THIS I do understand. Very nicely written indeed! Nothing of that science over my head stuff. Just plain and simple. I think you've made a very healthy statement in showing us that you can be just as convincing regardless the message and this will hopefully make all of us even more sure about our own feelings. I really liked this thread in the beginning because it focused on my feelings about love and unity but towards the end it has become just what the very problem "outside" is. Outside the most believe that things are what they are because "everyone" is OK with it and I should probably also be OK with it because everyone else is OK with it and so on. Luckily there are people here that are aware of their own feelings and understands that when they feel the urge to ask and to get things clarified, that make it happen regardless of how stupid this may seem in the eyes of others who are afraid to show their percieved "stupidity". We are here because we DO make a difference. We are not like everyone else and I'm so proud of the many fearless humans, walk-ins and whatever that dares to stand up for themselves and who dares to acknowledge their feelings and make this world a better place. Without people that dare to question what they feel is wrong from within we are allready lost and you could just as well eat us right away. I won't follow anything that doesn't feel right from within, regardless how right you try to make me believe it is. The positive thing with a forum like this is that the questions show. On the outside in the "normal" world, questions not supporting the general dogma have a much harder time to surface. In here everything gets the equal space and that's just how it's supposed to be. So.... Let us not be eaten. Let's question every atom in this reality that doesn't resonate with the whole of each and everyone of us because if we truly are the co-creators of our reality, which I know we all are, why should not every atom and every frequency resonate with the whole of our beings? I believe the only reason our world isn't what the majority want it to be is the very thing this thread has come to represent. I happen to think about Adam and Eve in Eden, and the snake delivering messages that apparently Eve didn't quite understand, but thought she did and there you go. Once we start to give in to the temptations of someone else telling us what is and what isn't, we are lost. You will probably say that it's up to everyone to make their own beliefs from the information you are giving and sure it is.. You will probably also say that you don't force anyone, and you don't... But this is also the case on the "outside", still things aren't what they are supposed to be. So, yes the ones to blame are us for not doing something about it, but if you truly want to help us why don't you just in a plain and easy way just do that. Why give us the opportunity to MISINTERPRET? Why give us the opportunity to not understand? Make the message plain and simple and easy to understand for everyone just like you did in this one and you will truly help us. Over and out knowing that I make a difference. Sollve

01-21-2010, 10:47 AM	#718
Spregovori Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) begin "joke" Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas The Thubanese are old Draconians who like to eat people for breakfast and to gather food resources i would prefer to be served with spinach and mashed potatoes + apple juice i have yet to decide on the flower arrangements Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas The Powers-That-Be of the old earth will be powerless to stop US; because they had thought that WE would allow them to be our ambassadors of the new earth and in thinking of themselves as the elite. WE shall eat them for lunch; but they dont know that yet; although some of them suspect that WE are deceiving them. What about dinner? Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas But first of all, WE have to create the Thuban Dragon Cult and this and only this is the purpose of Abraxas. So Be It! Signed and Sealed in the Name or Amen of the Master-Templar by Abraxasinas Scribe of the Dragons aka the SolarArrowed Unicorn of the SeaGoatian Dragonhorns entwined with the Hermetic FisherEagle of the Lunar Twins. AA If the cult will have cool looking robes with strange symbols and will chant dark whispers I might apply for a high priest (i believe a yearly salary of 50kEUR, company car, company condo and company resort on Polynesia is in order) Jordan Maxwell would love it. Imagine the DVD cover (green face with yellow-red eyes and a dinner plate in front of it). THE DAWN IS UPON YOU PEOPLE! With his final conclusion that planet earth is a big animal farm for even bigger ET festivities. end "joke" Why do i feel bad/guilty when others "argue"? You mentioned you have a severe medical condition. Is there no way you could recover? Restore health...?

01-21-2010, 10:57 AM	#719
Firedrake Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 59	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Sollve So, yes the ones to blame are us for not doing something about it, but if you truly want to help us why don't you just in a plain and easy way just do that. Why give us the opportunity to MISINTERPRET? Why give us the opportunity to not understand? Make the message plain and simple and easy to understand for everyone just like you did in this one and you will truly help us. Because that is Free Will, you learn to incorporate knowingness into your experience only when you come to understand it for yourself; resonate with wisdom in the realization of your truth. You never don't have the opportunity to not or misunderstand, that is always a persons choice, to listen to you inner knowingness or let fear trample your mind and thoughts. Whatever happens happens, the more we worry or dwell on past mistakes the more we are sucked out of the moment and away from who we truly are. If you want to believe that we are going to be eaten, fine, but know there are those of us here that have so much love for these 'vessels' around us that we are ready and willing to mirror whatever energy these 'Fallen Dragons' are looking to bring back onto them. This is all about having a vast array of experiences, learning from them, and choosing what reality we want out of the endless ingredients we have to work with. Return to the eternal heart, and whatever questions you have, if asked from the heart, with that innocent pure intent, will be answered from a place of unconditional love. -Love and Light-

01-21-2010, 11:19 AM	#720
Sollve Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 45	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Firedrake Because that is Free Will, you learn to incorporate knowingness into your experience only when you come to understand it for yourself; resonate with wisdom in the realization of your truth. You never don't have the opportunity to not or misunderstand, that is always a persons choice, to listen to you inner knowingness or let fear trample your mind and thoughts. Whatever happens happens, the more we worry or dwell on past mistakes the more we are sucked out of the moment and away from who we truly are. If you want to believe that we are going to be eaten, fine, but know there are those of us here that have so much love for these 'vessels' around us that we are ready and willing to mirror whatever energy these 'Fallen Dragons' are looking to bring back onto them. This is all about having a vast array of experiences, learning from them, and choosing what reality we want out of the endless ingredients we have to work with. Return to the eternal heart, and whatever questions you have, if asked from the heart, with that innocent pure intent, will be answered from a place of unconditional love. -Love and Light- Firedrake, You are right ofcourse and I can also feel that my message wasn't interpreted the way I wanted therefor it needs a small justment. What I meant was that I as the messenger don't need to allow my message to be misinterpreted. If I believe the fault for misinterpretation is mine as the messenger I can choose not to allow misinterpretation by listening to my recipients and remake the message to suit the recipient without loosing it's intent. It's all about how important I believe my message is. If I don't care about the message itself, there is no reason to clarify. I'll have to see if my intention with this message came through, otherwise I'll try to clarifiy again until it does, and at the same time trying to make an example of what I mean. Also, I won't be eaten, because I will be dead before someone eats me. Peace, love and understanding. Sollve

01-21-2010, 11:24 AM	#721
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Raven Perhaps familiarizing yourself with the language used by the sciences, will enlighten you to the fact that this kind of encoding is not one of elitism or the 'sequestering' of information. Mathematical and logical discourse can be rather enlightening itself. This is very true. And with this statement I can truely see that math is a language unto itself and even though my 'fluency' in it isn't all that great, this thread and discourse makes me wish to understand it more. Thank you abraxas. Raven *Goes back to reading the holographic universe again for the umpteenth time* The Holographic Universe by Talbot is a very good introduction to the 'real physical-metaphysical' universe for the 'layman' indeed. Thank you for your mentioning this Raven. Here is the link for the 'Holographic Universe'; first Michael Talbot, then Strings-wiki then Thuban. http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id7.html AA

01-21-2010, 11:33 AM	#722
Malletzky Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It doesn't matter any more Posts: 534	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Dear avalonians (ALL of you reading and contributing on this thread)...dear mods! I've been here on this forum for a while and you know me enough to know that I never mean to offend or judge. So please don't feel offended and judged by me...I just take my right as a forum participant, as each one of you does, to make my statement here. My recent discovered ability to "read/feel" (or call this whatever you wish) the energy signatures of posted material seem to slay over me right now. I’m very sorry to see so much “negativity” with “hidden agendas” behind the written words. I will not ask the common question: WHY? You would know why, and I don’t want your answer! But I will ask some other questions, and ALL of you, especially the one who knows better, are wellcome to participate. (Mods and Abrax, sorry if this seem to be out of context here, but believe me, it isn’t). First, why do some of you, with english as your “mother language”, trust that the numerology applied on the basics of the english language is (the only one?) correct? How comes, when there are probably more then 6.000 still “active” languages spoken and written on this planet right now? Or could you eventually “tell” me the numerological meaning of my Avatar’s name malletzky and what does it really mean? (Besides the fact that I already posted somewhere here on this forum the exact meaning, it is written and read differently in my mother language). I’m just curious here, nothing more...and I hope that you will see the meaningless attempts of applying numerology to “read” the meaning of something after “deciphering and decoding and decrypting” my avatar. Secondly, and I’m just curios again (sorry to ask, even if I know the real purpose...see above the remark of the energy signatures). I’ve noticed that many of you Mods contributed here on this forum, and this is the first time I see so many of you posting on one thread. The only question I would like to ask, without assuming or judging, or even worst, telling you where and when to post...is: Do you have your Mod’s hat on or of when posting? I will end this post unusually for me...with some quotes which I find appropriate... Quote: Careful you must be when sensing the future, Anakin. The fear of loss is a path to the dark side...---“Master Yoda ” So what are we afraid to loose? Is it the probable complacency which makes us blind to sometimes see behind the curtain? If so... Quote: Do not be afraid to make a sudden and radical change if the opportunity is presented and you feel after careful consideration that it is the right opportunity ... but never take sudden or radical action when you are in doubt as to the wisdom of doing so. -----“Wallace Wattles”. Therefore: Quote: When you are in doubt, wait. -----“Wallace Wattles”. with respect malletzky

01-21-2010, 11:35 AM	#723
Firedrake Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 59	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Sollve Firedrake, You are right ofcourse and I can also feel that my message wasn't interpreted the way I wanted therefor it needs a small justment. What I meant was that I as the messenger don't need to allow my message to be misinterpreted. If I believe the fault for misinterpretation is mine as the messenger I can choose not to allow misinterpretation by listening to my recipients and remake the message to suit the recipient without loosing it's intent. It's all about how important I believe my message is. If I don't care about the message itself, there is no reason to clarify. I'll have to see if my intention with this message came through, otherwise I'll try to clarifiy again until it does, and at the same time trying to make an example of what I mean. Also, I won't be eaten, because I will be dead before someone eats me. Peace, love and understanding. Sollve I agree with you, but one can only clarify so far since some do not yet have the experiences to be able to relate with certain things. Confusion is natural when one can not relate, or, chooses to not relate or chooses to look at a message in a certain way, which may not be how it was intended. I do agree we should try to clarify to cause less confusion, some are in such a deep state of self denial though that they will only see past a certain point. The person who is interpreting the message is the one that allows it to be misinterpreted or not, not the messenger, the messenger can try to provide clarity, but sometimes not always in a successful manner for the individual. It can also be the messengers intent to cause misinterpretation, but even then it is still up to the interpreter of the message what they take from it. Oh, and you are already dead, and alive, just unaware that you have the ability to be wherever you wish whenever you want. Death, as you might think of it, is leaving this vessel or body and returning to your main energy connection you deviate from. But, you do not have to permanently leave the physical body, one can have a conscious death experience, and come back bringing with them new insights and realizations about who they are and what they want in their reality. -Love and Light-

01-21-2010, 11:41 AM	#724
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Ok; I'll decide. Thuban is a pretend smokescreen of pretend information, which is just a plagiarism of well credentialled academic sources masquerading as 'real science' of a new world. The Thubanese are old Draconians who like to eat people for breakfast and to gather food resources; the Thubanese have decided to infiltrate the world's most important discussion forum: Project Avalon. Here then the agenda is to brainwash the forum contributors with scientific sounding but really worthless information and for the purpose to gain as many followers of the Thubanese philosophy as possible. Then when the critical mass of cult followers has been reached, the true Draconian Reptoids will appear and harvest their brainwashed followers. This will be accomplished in invading the old earth shortly after December 21st, 2012 through a Black Hole-White Hole monadic dyad opening up halfway between Sirius and Gaia and wormhole connected to the Orion starsystem. The Powers-That-Be of the old earth will be powerless to stop US; because they had thought that WE would allow them to be our ambassadors of the new earth and in thinking of themselves as the elite. WE shall eat them for lunch; but they dont know that yet; although some of them suspect that WE are deceiving them. And so WE shall rule the New Earth and in a few years, say 2015, WE shall reengineer the deteriorated wormhole channels to allow our Draconian brothers and sisters to join US on OUR new homeplanet SERPENTINA. From then on, SERPENTINA will be a BLACK DRAGONSTAR. All of the old humanity will have been consumed by US and WE shall DRAGONSEED a HybridRace between OURSELVES and OUR Ancestrial Lineages. But first of all, WE have to create the Thuban Dragon Cult and this and only this is the purpose of Abraxas. So Be It! Signed and Sealed in the Name or Amen of the Master-Templar by Abraxasinas Scribe of the Dragons aka the SolarArrowed Unicorn of the SeaGoatian Dragonhorns entwined with the Hermetic FisherEagle of the Lunar Twins. AA Well done Abraxinas, the truth at last, see how we are in very different and oposite camps. I wish you well in your synthetic journey towards space dust In eternal krystiac love

01-21-2010, 11:41 AM

#725

abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635

Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Spregovori begin "joke" i would prefer to be served with spinach and mashed potatoes + apple juice I think you'd be to tough Sprigovori. Old Grandpa Draconis Coelum Ignus has trouble with his alligator teeth and so you may be one of the humans we decide to let live as one of our servants to set the tables. Or we make you work our gold mines on Thuban as a slave. i have yet to decide on the flower arrangements Nah, we've got the daisys and the violets lined up. What about dinner? Your Martian girlfriend will do. If the cult will have cool looking robes with strange symbols and will chant dark whispers I might apply for a high priest (i believe a yearly salary of 50kEUR, company car, company condo and company resort on Polynesia is in order) Your request has been noted. I shall forward it to GrandMa Coelis Aquaris. It's up to her to make you a Dragon-Priest of the Symbols. Jordan Maxwell would love it. Imagine the DVD cover (green face with yellow-red eyes and a dinner plate in front of it). THE DAWN IS UPON YOU PEOPLE! With his final conclusion that planet earth is a big animal farm for even bigger ET festivities. You've discovered the 'Dark Secret' Sprigovori. end "joke" Why do i feel bad/guilty when others "argue"? It's part of the polarisation. It will have to BE until the timeline ends. If this forum can make a difference, then the cobwebs must blow out in it first to become effective. You mentioned you have a severe medical condition. Is there no way you could recover? Restore health...? My hope is the advanced bioinference of my familar ET friends and of course the 'light body' transform. I suffer the Serpent's Curse of the 'Heel of Achilles' {Genesis.3.14-15}. In terrestrial terms a motor neuron disease similar to Stephen Hawking, but restricted to the legs. Terrestrial medicine has 'no hope' for this condition, trough the stemcellls could replace axion deteriorations in the spinal cord. I'll know soon enough as One of the 'Last Mohicans' still standing and remaining here for the time being. The timeline says, I'll have to remain until December 8th, 2011 - as one of the trigger dates. So I might NOT be here at December 21st, 2012. I don't know much 'personal' stuff at all. AA

 

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01-21-2010, 11:46 AM	#726
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion Well done Abraxinas, the truth at last, see how we are in very different and oposite camps. I wish you well in your synthetic journey towards space dust In eternal krystiac love Thank You Stardustaquarion. It will be a pleasure to taste your sweet morsels after the transformation and after you have become assimilated in OUR Black Hole Transducer of your merkabah. Resistence is futile, but you can try of course. Abra Yum Yum Stardustaquarion is mine - you hear me Council, I want her for myself! Perhaps as something else than just elixir.

01-21-2010, 11:50 AM	#727
Firedrake Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 59	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Thank You Stardustaquarion. It will be a pleasure to taste your sweet morsels after the transformation and after you have become assimilated in OUR Black Hole Transducer of your merkabah. Resistence is futile, but you can try of course. Abra Yum Yum Stardustaquarion is mine - you hear me Council, I want her for myself! Perhaps as something else than just elixir. On a more serious, or sirius, note abraxas you can heal yourself if you so wish. Remembering to access the central channel, by having the sun and moon channels energetically collapse, will allow the nadis to clear and be refreshed by the psychic heat generated. I send my blessings to you in that you may feel what I experience and so have the experience as your own. -Love and Light- Last edited by Firedrake; 01-21-2010 at 11:57 AM.

01-21-2010, 12:01 PM	#728
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Sollve Hehe, THIS I do understand. Very nicely written indeed! Nothing of that science over my head stuff. Just plain and simple. I think you've made a very healthy statement in showing us that you can be just as convincing regardless the message and this will hopefully make all of us even more sure about our own feelings. I really liked this thread in the beginning because it focused on my feelings about love and unity but towards the end it has become just what the very problem "outside" is. Outside the most believe that things are what they are because "everyone" is OK with it and I should probably also be OK with it because everyone else is OK with it and so on. Luckily there are people here that are aware of their own feelings and understands that when they feel the urge to ask and to get things clarified, that make it happen regardless of how stupid this may seem in the eyes of others who are afraid to show their percieved "stupidity". We are here because we DO make a difference. We are not like everyone else and I'm so proud of the many fearless humans, walk-ins and whatever that dares to stand up for themselves and who dares to acknowledge their feelings and make this world a better place. Without people that dare to question what they feel is wrong from within we are allready lost and you could just as well eat us right away. I won't follow anything that doesn't feel right from within, regardless how right you try to make me believe it is. The positive thing with a forum like this is that the questions show. On the outside in the "normal" world, questions not supporting the general dogma have a much harder time to surface. In here everything gets the equal space and that's just how it's supposed to be. So.... Let us not be eaten. Let's question every atom in this reality that doesn't resonate with the whole of each and everyone of us because if we truly are the co-creators of our reality, which I know we all are, why should not every atom and every frequency resonate with the whole of our beings? I believe the only reason our world isn't what the majority want it to be is the very thing this thread has come to represent. I happen to think about Adam and Eve in Eden, and the snake delivering messages that apparently Eve didn't quite understand, but thought she did and there you go. Once we start to give in to the temptations of someone else telling us what is and what isn't, we are lost. You will probably say that it's up to everyone to make their own beliefs from the information you are giving and sure it is.. You will probably also say that you don't force anyone, and you don't... But this is also the case on the "outside", still things aren't what they are supposed to be. So, yes the ones to blame are us for not doing something about it, but if you truly want to help us why don't you just in a plain and easy way just do that. Why give us the opportunity to MISINTERPRET? Why give us the opportunity to not understand? Make the message plain and simple and easy to understand for everyone just like you did in this one and you will truly help us. Over and out knowing that I make a difference. Sollve Yes, I agree with you generally here Sollve! The Misinterpretation is part of the 'Game of Life'. Like in a chess game, the 'opponent' might induce you to 'make a wrong move', then giving your 'oppenent' the advantage IN THE GAME. In regards to the science, what do you think I am - some master teacher or educator who knows every 'students' weaknesses and strengths of what the student is able to understand at that stage of their 'learning' or not? I am NOT a teacher for anyone. I feel compelled to share this data, accumulated over a lifetime (by the way it has cost me thousands to do so in photocopies etc before the webage and I never 'made' a single penny from all of this over 35 years or so, so in human terms I must be 'really mad'), because I am doing this for a 'Greater Good' or whatever you like to term it. Actually, should I have not experienced the ET connections, I would have engaged in a teaching career - teaching high school (or college) maths and physics. But I wasn't 'allowed' to do that - so drats. I'm NOT anyones teacher or guru or leader. Roger Over and Out AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-21-2010 at 12:09 PM.

01-21-2010, 12:07 PM	#729
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Firedrake On a more serious, or sirius, note abraxas you can heal yourself if you so wish. Remembering to access the central channel, by having the sun and moon channels energetically collapse, will allow the nadis to clear and be refreshed by the psychic heat generated. I send my blessings to you in that you may feel what I experience and so have the experience as your own. -Love and Light- Thank you firedrake; you are a Loving Heart of the Source-Reflection indeed. Yes I know of the self-healing. However my 'dis-ease' is related to the 'Serpent's Curse' and so I must 'Play the Game' of the Timeline in self-relativity. Resistence of the Self is futile after surrender to the Logos. The expectation is of course that the Little Self will become a Bigger Self after completion and then the 'outer' will harmonize with the 'inner'. AA

01-21-2010, 12:10 PM	#730
Firedrake Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 59	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Thank you firedrake; you are a Loving Heart of the Source-Reflection indeed. Yes I know of the self-healing. However my 'dis-ease' is related to the 'Serpent's Curse' and so I must 'Play the Game' of the Timeline in self-relativity. Resistence of the Self is futile after surrender to the Logos. The expectation is of course that the Little Self will become a Bigger Self after completion and then the 'outer' will harmonize with the 'inner'. AA I understand, thank you for choosing to 'play the game' in order to share your knowledge. -Love and Light-

01-21-2010, 12:15 PM	#731
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Thank You Stardustaquarion. It will be a pleasure to taste your sweet morsels after the transformation and after you have become assimilated in OUR Black Hole Transducer of your merkabah. Resistence is futile, but you can try of course. Abra Yum Yum Stardustaquarion is mine - you hear me Council, I want her for myself! Perhaps as something else than just elixir. My beloved Abraxinas OOOOOOps I forgot to tell you that I am a "blue dragon" = AquafarE aquatic bird blue humanid and I thought it won't be Krystiac if I don't tell you that we are poison to the fallen dragons As for the star of death, I already have my own merkabah thank you, so first you will have to catch me and that may prove to be a bit tricky cos our merkabahs bounce back anti krystiac energies...you know that don't you? In eternal aqua Kristiac LaVa

01-21-2010, 12:31 PM	#732
Spregovori Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) So you can not use your legs....this must be...very unpleasant. Things like this scare me. Not being able to walk, see, hear, talk, smell.... I have a Martian girlfriend? Great...i wonder when i get to meet her. Still single at the moment....where did Sabina go...I need a tantra yoga partner to be eaten or not to be eaten... so..... I ll just let you "kids" to have your fun now...no scratching, no running, wash hands after you are done and be home by 8

01-21-2010, 12:33 PM	#733
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Malletzky Dear avalonians (ALL of you reading and contributing on this thread)...dear mods! I've been here on this forum for a while and you know me enough to know that I never mean to offend or judge. So please don't feel offended and judged by me...I just take my right as a forum participant, as each one of you does, to make my statement here. My recent discovered ability to "read/feel" (or call this whatever you wish) the energy signatures of posted material seem to slay over me right now. I’m very sorry to see so much “negativity” with “hidden agendas” behind the written words. I will not ask the common question: WHY? You would know why, and I don’t want your answer! But I will ask some other questions, and ALL of you, especially the one who knows better, are wellcome to participate. (Mods and Abrax, sorry if this seem to be out of context here, but believe me, it isn’t). No its not. I share your dismay. There have been flares of ego, the posturing "tests" by those that think they "know" but fail most of the tests themselves, passive aggression, veiled accusations of insincerity, recently close to outright accusations and a distinct lack of respect now; which has started to become the norm in this thread and I really hope it stops. I already knew at the outset that sooner or later Abraxas would be implicated as a would be "cult" leader. I'll give the the forum credit - I could see it brewing for weeks, and it took longer than I estimated, but sure enough you delivered. Why ? What was the point ? Ask youself - do you take pleasure in landing these sword blows? Do you think you are "winning"? Where is the love? It's gone fishing on account of too much FEAR and inability to see past the role of the ego when it plays dirty. Quite apart from this, it seems to me that a wanna-be cult leader would be stupid to come on Avalon! [1] - there are a small percentage (and I mean small) of people here that would out them in a second. None of whom I think I have seen posting on this thread yet but they do thier thing in peace and respect. So I sit here thinking why do I have to sit here and watch yet another Avalon style hatchet job in progress - and then Malletzky comes along and posts just what I was thinking. Please stop it. Bury those hatchets. Read the thread for what it is. Just ask your questions nicely please and be respectful. If you must laugh at the posers who think they are masters of this game - go ahead, but do it in private please. Above all, please don't "With respect" , I think you are a - cult leader, fake, plaigiarist, non-sensical speaker of gibberish ... whatever - "with respect" anyone. It is not respect - it is bloody rude and fake. Abraxasinas/Moderators/Members - please have a good talk with your human sides and tell them not to escalate please. With respect In the love and in the light of the one infinite creator, let harmony come. A.. [1] Bill Ryan excepted of course Last edited by Anchor; 01-21-2010 at 12:56 PM.

01-21-2010, 12:35 PM	#734
bigmo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 122	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Abraxas, I’m sorry to hear of the suffering you have experienced with the loss of your daughter and the illness that has resulted. I can’t even imagine the heartache you must have gone through, the pain you have endured and my heart goes out to you. I thank you for the information you have posted on this thread. You have made your case for the validity of the ‘physics’ in your explanations and I hope that we can move forward from here with more of the ‘relevance’ of your presence here at Avalon. I wonder what further information you are to disseminate here and to what purpose these disclosures are to be used? I think I have a general idea of where you are going with this information but am not sure. I am however enjoying the ride none the less! Please don’t allow yourself to get drawn into ‘bickering’ as it upsets the ‘continuity of the flow’ and waste precious time. A little bit of this goes a long way. In the end I want to hear ‘all’ of what you have to say and then I can discern. Just like everyone else reading this thread... I can make my own choices… after all that is what free will is all about. May the Peace of the universe fill your heart and soul Abraxas.

01-21-2010, 12:39 PM	#735
Sollve Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 45	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Yes, I agree with you generally here Sollve! The Misinterpretation is part of the 'Game of Life'. Like in a chess game, the 'opponent' might induce you to 'make a wrong move', then giving your 'oppenent' the advantage IN THE GAME. In regards to the science, what do you think I am - some master teacher or educator who knows every 'students' weaknesses and strengths of what the student is able to understand at that stage of their 'learning' or not? I am NOT a teacher for anyone. I feel compelled to share this data, accumulated over a lifetime (by the way it has cost me thousands to do so in photocopis etc before the webage and I never 'made' a single penny from all of this over 35 years or so, so in human terms I must be 'really mad'), because I am doing this for a 'Greater Good' or whatever you like to term it. Actually, should I have not experienced the ET connections, I would have engaged in a teaching career - teaching high school (or college) maths and physics. But I wasn't 'allowed' to do that - so drats. I'm NOT anyones teacher or guru or leader. Roger Over and Out AA AA, You say that you are so compelled to share this data. Why are you so compelled? How do you feel when you are sharing? Do you feel love? Do you feel hightened (in the meaning: standing above the rest), or something else? If you for example feel that it is Love that drives your compassion in sharing your data. Where do you feel this love is flowing? Towards those who are at the recipient end or those who are at the messenger end. If you feel nothing or equal love towards both, then how do I know the message is for me? You talk alot about polarization and I don't think I understand what you mean by this. Do you believe that you need to divide us or unite us? Regardless of which, why is it necessary for you to do either? I'm totally all in for uniting everyone because I do feel intensly that we are all the same at the core of our beings. Some of us are lost, some are not but if we know that we find more or less of ourselves represented in everyone I find it most interesting to reach and connect. I have an infinite compassion and drive towards understanding and love, and because I have that drive I know that everyone has got it, more or less. That's why I never give up. I need you to make me understand how polarization can be the answer when I'm so certain unity is, and ofcourse none can exist without the other, but why try to maximise the polarisation, it will always be percieved to be at maximum anyway but in this NOW we know how it is and therefor how the maximum polarization is manifested. If we in every NOW try to minimize the polarization from the NOW we percieved as before, even if the next NOW feels like it is at maximum wouldn't this still be the prefered way of doing things? In my world and reality it is. Why not in your's? Wow! I'm applauding you stamina! It only takes me a couple of replies to get totally exhausted and you seem to be able to carry on through out the whole day. Awesome! Thanks for your time and understanding my lack of understanding. Your friend in unity, Sollve

01-21-2010, 12:52 PM	#736
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion My beloved Abraxinas OOOOOOps I forgot to tell you that I am a "blue dragon" = AquafarE aquatic bird blue humanid and I thought it won't be Krystiac if I don't tell you that we are poison to the fallen dragons As for the star of death, I already have my own merkabah thank you, so first you will have to catch me and that may prove to be a bit tricky cos our merkabahs bounce back anti krystiac energies...you know that don't you? In eternal aqua Kristiac LaVa You will taste quite nice! Blue+Yellow=Cyan+Red=Pure White in Radiation=Pure Black in Paint. I've already 'caught you' - if you just knew. I am, you might say, a Thuban expert of the colour mixing and the harmonization of states and antistates. I love you too Stardustaquarion - you are a Mirror of myself. AA

01-21-2010, 01:07 PM	#737
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Anchor No its not. I share your dismay. There have been flares of ego, the posturing "tests" by those that think they "know" but fail most of the tests themselves, passive aggression, veiled accusations of insincerity, recently close to outright accusations and a distinct lack of respect now; which has started to become the norm in this thread and I really hope it stops. I already knew at the outset that sooner or later Abraxas would be implicated as a would be "cult" leader. I'll give the the forum credit - I could see it brewing for weeks, and it took longer than I estimated, but sure enough you delivered. Why ? What was the point ? Ask youself - do you take pleasure in landing these sword blows? Do you think you are "winning"? Where is the love? It's gone fishing on account of too much FEAR and inability to see the role of the ego when it plays dirty. Quite apart from this, it seems to me that a wanna-be cult leader would be stupid to come on Avalon! [1] - there are a small percentage (and I mean small) of people here that would out them in a second. None of whom I think I have seen posting on this thread yet but they do thier thing in peace and respect. So I sit here thinking why do I have to sit here and watch yet another Avalon style hatchet job in progress - and then Malletzky comes along an posts just what I was thinking. Please stop it. Bury those hatchets. Read the thread for what it is. Just ask your questions nicely please and be respectful. If you must laugh at the posers who think they are masters of this game - go ahead, but do it in private please. Above all, please don't "With respect" , I think you are a - cult leader, fake, plaigiarist, non-sensical speaker of gibberish "with respect" anyone. It is not respect - it is bloody rude. Abraxasinas/Moderators/Members - please have a good talk with your human sides and tell them not to escalate please. With respect In the love and in the light of the one infinite creator, let harmony come. A.. [1] Bill Ryan excepted of course Hi Anchor! It is not THAT serious. The correspondents are not 'hostile' on the 'lower' levels of the 'personas', though it certainly appears that way. I am NOT offended and do not detect offense in the other participants. A forum such as this, by definition, assumes a slightly different and more tolerant notion of the 'ad hominem'. Think of it as the 'today politically incorrect' notions of 'British Comedy', say 20-40 years ago. At your life-experience you might remember 'sitcoms' like: "Love Thy Neighbour" and 'Mind Your Language' and 'Only Fools and Horses' and 'George and the Dragon' and 'Are You Being Served'. It's fun and a little 'sexist' and a little 'racist' and so on but always allowing the 'offended ones' win the arguments. So its NOT 'sexist' or 'racist' or any of the 'insane' labels placed upon things in today's 'morally correct' society. The ability to 'laugh at onself' has somehow be left behind in this 'correctness' and attempts not to say a 'wrong word' at a 'wrong place'. Now the OZZIE has not yet fallen into the 'I'll sue you for this' conundrum of the litigations, as you well know. Let us hope that the Americana of the 'I am so offended' does not become a worldwide phenomenon for the 'vulnerable sentimentalities'. That said, yes I shall curtail the aggressive replies in a more circumspect manner. Abraxas

01-21-2010, 01:11 PM	#738
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Spregovori So you can not use your legs....this must be...very unpleasant. Things like this scare me. Not being able to walk, see, hear, talk, smell.... I have a Martian girlfriend? Great...i wonder when i get to meet her. Still single at the moment....where did Sabina go...I need a tantra yoga partner to be eaten or not to be eaten... so..... I ll just let you "kids" to have your fun now...no scratching, no running, wash hands after you are done and be home by 8 Sabina works at the 'Night of the Museum'. And you know what happens in there at night don't you. She does and knows the games played by the inhabitants of the museum. AA Marsina is already in your dreams.

01-21-2010, 01:27 PM	#739
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by bigmo Abraxas, I’m sorry to hear of the suffering you have experienced with the loss of your daughter and the illness that has resulted. I can’t even imagine the heartache you must have gone through, the pain you have endured and my heart goes out to you. I thank you for the information you have posted on this thread. You have made your case for the validity of the ‘physics’ in your explanations and I hope that we can move forward from here with more of the ‘relevance’ of your presence here at Avalon. I wonder what further information you are to disseminate here and to what purpose these disclosures are to be used? I think I have a general idea of where you are going with this information but am not sure. I am however enjoying the ride none the less! Please don’t allow yourself to get drawn into ‘bickering’ as it upsets the ‘continuity of the flow’ and waste precious time. A little bit of this goes a long way. In the end I want to hear ‘all’ of what you have to say and then I can discern. Just like everyone else reading this thread... I can make my own choices… after all that is what free will is all about. May the Peace of the universe fill your heart and soul Abraxas. Hi bigmo! Thank you for your kindness. I am quite alright and can handle the physical pains, without too much discomfort at present. In regards to the information. Well of course I understand that the science parts are hard to share. It took me a lifetime to gain the necessary comprehension not yet completed of course. But there already have been many posts, questions and replies, which have addressed common gnosis topics. For example the post by eric lead to his nice elaboration between the three planes of body emotions and mind in diagrams and elucidations. I have no computer software to draw diagrams and pictures, which obviously would help. But as said, my presence is whatever it is, but the data shall remain, once I am gone. Doing this here is no ego-trip, but simply the culmination of the work done for decades. I really don't know why it turned out this way and should there be no questions or 'little skirmishes', then I would not answer. Really it was only until January 18th, that I 'had to' (yes my Logos, everyone else got their logos, so it will be meaningless to challenge me on this or play with words regarding this) prepare this 'Thuban thing'. Relative to me it is potent and real and IT has taken its own agenda without me be required to Be or Do anything. I cannot judge this, I can only live it. But I expect noone to share this at all. So simply said, I'll remain as long as at least one person asks something or decides a little 'exchange' or until I am banned or asked to leave. It really doesn't matter. My expectation is however; that more and more people on the earth will FEEL the new archetypes and this is my agenda - to tranlate old archetypes into new ones; because the old ones have expired in their 'Use By 2009/2010' Date. Love and Peace of Mind to you too Michael. I can FEEL your gained Inner Peace- I am a little sensitive to those things you know. AA

01-21-2010, 01:51 PM	#740
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Sollve AA, You say that you are so compelled to share this data. Why are you so compelled? How do you feel when you are sharing? Do you feel love? Do you feel hightened (in the meaning: standing above the rest), or something else? The Logos dear Sollve; linked to the pain and joy of human life. How is one to explain the things one feels when leaving one's body to look for ones 'passed over' daughter? How is one to express to skeptical minds the tortures of one's soul? Can you understand the joy of a wheelchair bound person, if this person could simply stand up and walk across a room? Something YOU take for granted? How then does a disabled person, living in chronic pain, 'stand above the rest'. Can you fathom that if such a disabled person has little left in life but to think about the universe and to seek for harmony missing in ones deteriorating body form? This person MOST CERTAINLY is something else; but this person would find joys and pleasures in things others consider ordinary. How much joy would a blind person experience in seeing a rainbow or a deaf person of hearing a song? So some of these disabled, including autistic, peoples are 'something else'. Some have no meaning in physical life, instead of building universes with equations (Stephen Hawking) or painting portraits with their mouth's or toes, not having arms or hands or fingers. If you for example feel that it is Love that drives your compassion in sharing your data. Where do you feel this love is flowing? Towards those who are at the recipient end or those who are at the messenger end. If you feel nothing or equal love towards both, then how do I know the message is for me? How do I know? Ask yourself if you can resonate with the messages or not. You talk alot about polarization and I don't think I understand what you mean by this. Do you believe that you need to divide us or unite us? Regardless of which, why is it necessary for you to do either? Am I a Divider? Am I a Uniter? (72) A [person said] to him: "Tell my brothers that they have to divide my father’s possessions with me." He said to him: "Man, who has made me a divider?" He turned to his disciples (and) said to them: "I am not a divider, am I?" I'm totally all in for uniting everyone because I do feel intensly that we are all the same at the core of our beings. Some of us are lost, some are not but if we know that we find more or less of ourselves represented in everyone I find it most interesting to reach and connect. I have an infinite compassion and drive towards understanding and love, and because I have that drive I know that everyone has got it, more or less. That's why I never give up. You are doing well indeed. I need you to make me understand how polarization can be the answer when I'm so certain unity is, and of course none can exist without the other, but why try to maximise the polarisation, it will always be perceived to be at maximum anyway but in this NOW we know how it is and therefor how the maximum polarization is manifested. If we in every NOW try to minimize the polarization from the NOW we percieved as before, even if the next NOW feels like it is at maximum wouldn't this still be the prefered way of doing things? In my world and reality it is. Why not in your's? Unity in Oneness becomes Loneliness! Unity in Twoness becomes Polarity within the Oneness! Unity in Twoness in Separation allows the Polarity to Express Itself! Unity in Separation allows the Polarities to Learn to form a more newer and better Unity, than existed before. Wow! I'm applauding you stamina! It only takes me a couple of replies to get totally exhausted and you seem to be able to carry on through out the whole day. Awesome! I do what I am still capable of doing for my Logos. Thanks for your time and understanding my lack of understanding. Come on Sollve; I have always LOVED the Scandinavian Free Spirit. You've got it too. Wayshowers for the World of not being so damn serious and to reconnect to nature -Scandinavian groupmind addressing of course. Your friend in unity, Sollve AA Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-21-2010 at 01:55 PM.

01-21-2010, 02:37 PM	#741
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) In Love and Light... i will NOT follow into the dark In Love and Light i will follow the call In Love and Light i will NOT fall into the hole In Love and Light i will serve mercifully In Love and Light, i will Not Falter..

01-21-2010, 02:54 PM	#742
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Hi Uncle John! A little Egyption History and Mythology is appropriate. [Robert Sceptico and Logan Antico meet in the cafe 'Solaris', near the Conference Hall on campus of New Alexandria University. They had both just attended a symposium on the relevance of mythos to the paradigm of modern scientific thought and analysis.] Logan Antico: "Did you not think that the talk by the Egyptian Mythology specialist has relevance to our science and its modus operandi, Robert? The Egyptian doggod and 'Guide of the Dead', Anubis, is known as the 'Khaibit' or Shadow. He's the jackal-headed statue atop the sarcophagi and the watchdog to the entombed mummies." Robert Sceptico: "Well, one can superimpose a scientific meaning onto the written hieroglyphic encodings, I guess. I did find the poetic riddle, ascribed to the Ibisgod Thoth interesting though. Thoth is known as Hermes Trismegistos, keeper of the tripartite wisdom to the Greeks and the Egyptians and is renown as the founder of alchemy, the old ancestral chemistry. And his symbol is the Caduceus; the symbol of the medical profession as the 'Staff of Healing' of the Greek physician Aesculapius, modelled on the Egyptian healer-priest Imhotep and the god Nefertum, son of the 'masonic God' Ptah and his wife Sekhmet at the capital of Memphis. The Caduceus has two serpents, one white and one black, intertwining in the infinity symbol around the staff; it's also the 'Serpent Rod' of Aaron and Moses, coded in Exodus.7.10-15. Our practising doctors have lost one of the serpents in their medical history - to image their opposition to holistic principles, which they consider unscientific, I suppose." Robert Sceptico: "There is even a western tradition of initiation, which draws upon this partial understanding of the ancient covenant as coded in the scrolls of antiquity. The concepts of freemasonry for instance draw much upon the Egyptian wisdom scrolls of the Ibis-God Thoth and its companion of the Architect-Bull-God Apis-Ptah, both in league with the old Sun-God Ra, centred as the Family of Ra in the Egyptian capitol city of Memphis at the time of the 'Old Kingdom' say the 3rd to 6th dynasties from 2750 BC to 2255 BC and encompassing pharaohs such as Zoser, Khufu and Pepi. The centralised Egyptian government had collapsed by about 2230 BC of the 7th and 8th dynasties in an intermediate period and the gain of political importance by nonroyal administrators saw a shift from the Egyptian capital from Memphis to Heracleopolis in dynasties 9 and 10 and then to Thebes in the 'Middle Kingdom' of dynasties 11 to 13 and the period from about 2134 to 1668 BC. Pharaoh Mentuhotep II succeeded to 'reunify' Egypt about 2047 BC and the 12th dynasty king Amenemhet reestablished Memphis as a capital and the Family of Ra was renamed as the Family of Amon-Ra, after the pharaohic lineages. The biblical time of Joseph is placed into the reign of Amenhetep, with Joseph's '17th birthday' in 1976 BC, coded in Genesis.37.2 and the sojourn of 'Jacob' (like Joseph as quasihistorical figure), can be dated as Jacob's '130th birthday' to 1954 BC and his 'death' at 1937 BC, (Genesis.47.9,28). A 'golden age' of Egyptian art, literature and architecture ended when invaders from Palestine, often called 'shepherd kings of Hyksos' assumed foreign rulership over the eastern delta from their capital Avaris and spanning the 14th to 18th dynasties from 1720 BC to 1570 BC; when Ahmose I finally subdued the Hyksos in Egypt's reunification and to end the Hyksos interlude. The 18th dynasty then began the 'New Kingdom', which would last until 1070 BC and encircles the biblical characters of Moses and Aaron and Joshua. The birth of Aaron and Moses under the Theban unification of Horemheb is dated at 1322 and 1319 BC respectively, coded in Exodus.2.4,14; Numbers.33.38-39 and Deuteronomy.34.7., with 1279 BC as the 390th year of the Egyptian captivity and 40 years in the wilderness of Sinai ending 1199 BC. In 1669 BC, the 'Egyptian bondage' for the 'Children of Israel' began and would last for 430 years until the Exodus in 1239 BC under pharaoh Ramses II, ruling from 1291 BC to 1224 BC in the 19th dynasty. During the 18th dynasty, Amenhotep III, who reigned from 1386 to 1349 BC renamed the sungod Ra as Aton and his son Amenhotep IV, reigning from 1349 BC to 1334 BC, abandoned the capital Thebes for Akhetaton, renamed himself Ikhnaton (or Akhenaton, meaning Aton is satisfied) and with his queen Nefertiti sought to instigate a monotheistic religion as the first historical figure to do so. The religious reformation was shortlived however, with Ikhnaton's son Tutankhamen returning the capital to Thebes and returning to the old rituals of the priests who had fought any attempts to undermine the authority of the God Amon and his polytheistic following. But Ikhnaton's 'One God' represented a religious revolution in proclaiming Aton to be the one and only true God; a legacy of the idea and story of 'Joseph's God' who helped Joseph's notoriety as a capable 'interpreter of dreams', coded in Genesis.40.5-23; 41.1-46." Logan Antico: "This would have been the Egyptian form of gnosis, the 'Teacher of Righteousness' in the form of Thoth transmuting into Hermes Trismegistos in parallel with Amon-Ra becoming the 'One true God' of Ikhnaton and Nefertiti and absorbing the qualities of Thoth and Ptah in the process. The symbol of freemasonry are the encircled 'Mason's Tools', which are associated with the hieroglyphic 'cartouche' of the 'Ren' or name of Ptah as the archetype for Ra as the universal spirit Atum or Aton, which had built and created the universe. And so the Western esoteric traditions are attempting to play the role of 'Joseph in Egypt' as the cosmic 'Teacher of Righteousness' initiating the ones, who are able to guard and wisely use the knowledge of the true understanding." Robert Sceptico: "Furthermore, Ptah is said to have been married to Sekhmet, who was a lionheaded goddess and the daughter of Ra as the symbolic right or solar eye of Ra; the lunar left eye being the 'all seeing eye' of Horus, who in the third generation of the Egyptian family of gods married Sekhmet as the bullheaded goddess Hathor, symbolised by a mirror. Originally, Ra or Atum thought of himself as righteyed as herself and in using a mirror, he created an image in the lefteyed serpent Apep, who refused to play any games with his image as himself however. In his displeasure, Ra threw his right solar eye at Apep, who had to image this in his left lunar eye. But this allowed a second generation as the twinship of lefteyed Shu and righteyed Tefnut in the Egyptian Lion of Truth to become born in a release of creative energy of reproduction and through Ra masturbating to release his seed in her as Apep's image and so fertilising the SkyEarth. The righteyed Geb became the Earth and the lefteyed Nut became the lifted Sky and then they created the third generation in the lefteyed Osiris and the righteyed Isis, doubled in a mirrored twinship in the righteyed Set and the lefteyed Nephthys. The fourth generation so could intermarry for genetic variablity in the doubled twinship. Osiris, as the Djed or 'Tree of Life' became an archetype for the number 1 as the Khu or 'Spirit' and Isis became the number 2 as the Ab or the 'Throne of the Heart'. Their children became numbers 3 and 4 as the righteyed Horus of the 'All Seeing Eye' and the 'Spiritual Body' of the Sahu; and the lefteyed Bast or Pasht of the 'Sistrum' in the Ba of the 'Soul'. Now Set and Nephthys also had a child in Anubis, the Khaibit or Shadow of the Jackal-headed 'Opener of the Way' and the 'Guide of the Dead; but the story goes, that the fatherhood of Anubis is in dispute. Osiris is said to have had a loveaffair with both of his 'sisters' Isis and Nephthys to reproduce his own lefteyedness in a son to an also lefteyed mother. And so Anubis was born, knowing that he was lefteyed after his mother Nephthys, but he was initially confused because he could not image the righteyedness of his supposed father Set, there was an uncleanliness about his image as the image of his father, imaging the lefteyedness of his father's brother Osiris. Anubis was like a shadow between the right eye imaging the left as well as the other way around. But as Anubis pondered his origins, he came across his grandparents testimony and it dawned upon him, that the ever repeating generations of the cleanly sexed oneeyednesses could be made impure in stopping the generations going on and on infinitely. Anubis went to his grandparents and asked them if they would be willing to extend the fourth generation in archetypical blueprint and they agreed and their parents agreed also. And so righteyed Geb became renamed as Tehuti or Thoth as the number 5 and as the Ibis or 'Mind' and symbolised in the Caduceus, as the 'Lord of Time', 'Keeper of the Akashic Records', Scribe to the Gods' and 'Patron of the Healers'. Anubis' lefteyed grandmother Nut became the archetypical number 6 as Maat, symbolised in a 'White Feather of Truth', given to her by her mother Tefnut, renamed as the stargoddess Seshat; because she had existed before the Sky was born as Nut and the Earth was born as Geb. Now the legacy of Seshat was the right solar eye of Tefnut and Seshat could now give that legacy to her granddaughter Maat in a renaming of lefteyed Maat as the righteyed Sekhmet. And so the Sekhem or 'Power' was given to the hieroglyph of the number 6 and the symbol of the mirror, reflecting the right eye in the left eye and vice versa. Now righteyed Thoth could relate as archetypical brother to lefteyed Osiris and righteyed Set and lefteyed Maat could relate as archetypical sister to righteyes Isis and lefteyed Nephthys. Righteyed Horus was however matched with his lefteyed twinsister Bast and lefteyed Anubis had no righteyed companion whatsoever. And Anubis found the key in the testimony of his greatgrandparents Shu and Tefnut, the leonine twinship of the Egyptian Truth. After the SkyEarth of Shu and the EarthSky of Tefnut had been created by Ra's seed in his imagination; the righteyed Tefnut and the lefteyed Shu were as one and Ra decreed that they could not reproduce to be separated yet again as he had been before he had created the heshe-shehe duality in one; that is a circle of 360 days could not be broken any more in the linearity of the serpent Apep. But righteyed Ra had looked at lefteyed Apep in the commonly created righteyed-lefteyed ShuTefnut mirror and they both had seen a righteyed Thoth and a lefteyed Maat as their potential grandchildren in the mirror. And righteyed Thoth was willing to play a game of checkers chess with Ra, imagining to be the image of the image as a lefteyed goddess of the mirror, also known as Hathor or Athyr, and being the 'Goddess of Beauty and Love' and the 'Patroness of Womanhood' in Ra's imagination. And Ra fell madly in love with his own imagination as herself as Hathor and so both, the solar right eye of the day and the lunar left eye of the night became extended as one part in 72 or 10 degrees in 360 degrees in a new cycle, and those five days allowed Geb and Nut to be born as the children of Shu and Tefnut, separated from the oneness of the 360 degrees for five days and five nights." Logan Antico: "And exactly this is coded in the bible as a mysterious passage noone, to my knowledge, has ever deciphered in a logical correspondence to the facts: Isaiah.38.7-8: "And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he has spoken; Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sundial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down." Then Ahaz is symbolised by the sungod Ra, for AHAZ=1+8+1+26=36=18+18=RR=GOD+10 and 10 times 36 being the closure of the circle again." Robert Sceptico: "A nice example for how the mythologies of ancient Egypt are found in the bible, if one can only decode the mysterious passages through omniscience. And Ra is Yahwhey the God of the Hebrews, just as it is the God of Ikhnaton and Nefertiti. But 10 children became born, five for the day and five for the night, all together constituting a new creation; the first five children being Osiris with Isis and Set with Nephthys and an archetype, who could combine the duality of right and left in one. This mutation is the Egyptian Christ in a starborn Horus, who can be said to be in the womb of Isis, before she became pregnant by Osiris. And there you have the continuity of the ten archetypes in Hathor becoming the lefteyed number 6 relative to the righteyed Horus as the number 3. Bast as the lefteyed archetypical number 4 becomes the lovematch for a righteyed Anubian image, who as the 'Shadow' perfectly mirrors the duality of the number 6 as the archetype of the number 9. The number 7 is then taken by Nephthys as the 'Sacred Chalice', containing the seeds of both the lefteyed Osiris and the righteyed Set to bring forth the 'Shadow' of the 'Starborn Horus' in the Sahu of the 'Spiritual Body'; the 'Physical Body' or Khat, being the archetypical number 10=1+0 in Set. The lefteyed 'Doubleseeded Soul' of Nephthys then is known as the Ka.The five shadows for Osiris, Isis, Nephthys, Set and Horus so become Geb/Thoth, Nut/Maat/Bast, Tefnut/Sekhmet, Shu/Ptah and Anubis in the order specified. The righteyed Stargoddess Seshat as Tefnut is matched to the lefteyed Ptah as Shu in the undifferentiated SkyEarth, manifesting as righteyed Sekhmet and lefteyed Ptah in the Memphian Family. Righteyed Sekhmet becomes lefteyed Hathor in relationship with righteyed Horus, who is also represented as lefteyed Ptah through his 'starborn' status and doubling the archetypical number 6 in a bisexuality reflected in the Anubian number 9. The righteyed Anubis is matched to lefteyed Bast in archetypes 9 and 4; and the lefteyed Anubis is matched to righteyed Seshat via the twoeyed 'starsisterbrother' Sekhmet-Anubis in the mirror of 69. Sekhmet's 6 interchanges with Hathor's 6 in Seshat's 6 and matches in the righteyed Horus coupling with the lefteyed Hathor and lefteyed Horus coupling with righteyed Sekhmet in 3 and in 6. The lefteyed Anubis so becomes the 'real shadow' for the 'unreal' lefteyed Horus and the 'real shadow' of 'unreal' righteyed Anubis becomes the lefteyed Horus in the mirror of the 69=96. Merging the 'starry twinships' then results in a twoeyed Horus lovematched to a twoeyed Hathor-Sekhmet and Anubis matched to a twoeyed Seshat-Bast. The righteyed Anubis is also the righteyed Thoth and the lefteyed Bast is also the lefteyed Maat. Ptah is the archetypical number 8 and the hieroglyphic Ren or 'Name' as the Logos or Word of Christ and the 'Amen' of the Egyptian pharaohs." Logan Antico: "This is the number-letter code in some hieroglyphic form; say you define the archetypical number 6 in a right-left-right, or even-odd-even sequence in: Sekhmet*-Hathor-Sekhmet=24-15-6; then you can define the archetypes in resonating letters of the alphabet; here in X-O-F. The highest frequency is a unified principle in a 'stargoddess' say as 24 in the symbol for the Egyptian Ankh or Cross in 24=15+9=2+4=1+5=6 and the number 15 becoming a starsymbol for Sirius, associated with Hathor's mirror say and the numeral 6 representing the named goddesses in its archetype." Robert Sceptico: "Indeed, and you find the reason for the continuing Egyptian mythology, which tells the story of Set becoming jealous of his brother Osiris's popularity with the Egyptians as a God of fertility and of being the God of the Spirit or Khu; Set being the God of the Body or Khat. So Set, with 72 companions builds a box or sarcophagus as a pretend gift for Osiris and invites his brother to a banquet in his honour; during which Set asks Osiris to lay in the sarcophagus to see if it fits his size. When in the sarcophagus, Set shut the coffer's lid and threw it into the Nile, where Osiris drowned; and his corpse was carried to Byblos, where the lamenting Isis found it near a tamarisk tree and then brought it back into Egypt. Set then cut Osiris into 14 pieces and caused all the pieces to be spread around Egypt." AA You have left out the most important parts in much of this "history". Least we not forget what Isis did when she brought Osiris back? And the full story of of how she did it? Because that IS what should be focused on when these stories are recounted. This is a very watered down, and slanted version of Egyptian history in my opinion.

01-21-2010, 02:55 PM	#743
SABINA Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 31	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by Spregovori So you can not use your legs....this must be...very unpleasant. Things like this scare me. Not being able to walk, see, hear, talk, smell.... I have a Martian girlfriend? Great...i wonder when i get to meet her. Still single at the moment....where did Sabina go...I need a tantra yoga partner to be eaten or not to be eaten... so..... I ll just let you "kids" to have your fun now...no scratching, no running, wash hands after you are done and be home by 8 You are still young you will find your partner before you got eaten I am sure about that. Did you gogle Kamasutra?? by the way got scared about all that talk about Nazi Iam german Irony of the Karma. sabina

01-21-2010, 03:03 PM	#744
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by BROOK You have left out the most important parts in much of this "history". Least we not forget what Isis did when she brought Osiris back? And the full story of of how she did it? Because that IS what should be focused on when these stories are recounted. This is a very watered down, and slanted version of Egyptian history in my opinion. The post would have been too long had I continued with the story Brook. The question was about Ptah and I cut the story short after Ptah was not in the story any more. If someone asks about the continuations of the story, I shall provide it. As the expert on Egyptology, I am sure you can enlighten your 'friends' much better than myself. Cheers from the NASI Abraxas and Prost the Serpent's Ale! AA as in H.AA.RP, the raygun of Draconis!

01-21-2010, 03:40 PM	#745
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) From viking's thread: Another weird cloud! The size of this ring is about 12,000x12,000 furlongs and represents a 'shadow image' of the 'things to come'. As encoded in Revelation.21.16 and Ezekiel.48 (the latter 25,000 cubits square in total); the 'City of Light' will be a Mother Spacehip of dimensions 12,000 furlongs a side or 3,000 furlongs a side for a 12,000 furlong perimeter and a 'covered area' of 9 million square furlongs or 360,000 square kilometers. A furlong is about 200 meters and so the diameter of the 'New Jerusalem' as a 'New City of Light' is so 2200 kilometers underscaled in so 600 kilometers. If taken as a circle, the area of 360,000 square kilometers defines a Radius of so 340 kilometers and a diameter of so 677 kilometers, which is the size of the 'cloud' over Western Australia AA A Cubit is about 18 inches of 45 centimeters and so the 'four gates' times three of the 'New Jerusalem' in that depiction will have approximate sizes of 12 kilometers. Update Below Posted January 18, 2010 The images above is what my contact sent which shows a wide band ring covering many hundreds of miles across the south west of Australia with a small dot (presumably cloud) shown just right of center. I saved the loop of the area when I checked the site several hours later but unfortunately it was encrypted not to permit this. The loop is not now on the site but the satellite image taken at 16:30 UTC is also very interesting. It shows a very large rotating over the western Australia where the mysterious large ring appeared from which a small but brief condense trail formed off the coastline and from the center what had been the huge ring a series of what appears to be three mini spiraling arms are seen moving out of the area, moving north east. This is one of those rare occasions when I could buy weather experimentation effects or other experiments being performed by HAARP are being observed. It is hoped to receive an explanation from the Australian Government Weather Bureau for these series of strange effects. Posted at 4.15 pm US Eastern. January 16, 2010. Colin Andrews Written at 2230 Hrs (US Eastern) 15th January 2010. A contact in Australia just alerted me to what he describes as "very strange weather taking place over the south west of Australia". He told me to go to the national weather satellite images if I could not open the images he attached (See left). By the time I had discovered the e-mail and checked, the large clearly defined ring had mostly dissipated but still was just visible on a time loop which was spiraling counter clockwise (Low Pressure system). Only remains of the huge ring now moving away north east as several small spiraling arms. Satellite Image by Australian Government. "There is very strange weather happening here - please check" Other similar circles and rings seen on radar ================================================== ==== Updated: January 18, 2010 By Colin Andrews My contact sent me two additional photographs taken on the 16th (15th in the USA) and also at my request sent an inquiry to the weather observatory at Kalgoorlie and Giles in Western Australia and received this reply: From: Kalgoorlie-Boulder Met Office (kalgoorlie_met@bom.gov.au) Sent:Monday, 18 January 2010 7:18:17 PM To: xxxx removed Hi Allan, Early Saturday there were sort of concentric circles of echoes between 200 Kms and 400 Kms from Kalgoorlie-Boulder. However there was no weather around this area from which radar signals might have been reflected. It would therefore seem to be due to what is referred to as "anomalous propagation ".(false echoes) or even possibly dust in the atmosphere. Regards, Andy, Kalgoorlie-Boulder Met. Office. Taken at 1430 hrs. Cloud cover has moved position but the ring remains in the same position but less well defined. This satellite image shows cloud cover over Australia at 1630 hrs on the 16 January, 2010 which tends to support the met office statement that there was no weather over that area from which the radar could have been reflected. Taken at 1117hrs, noting the position of the ring from state border.

01-21-2010, 03:42 PM	#746
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

01-21-2010, 03:46 PM	#747
Spregovori Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by SABINA You are still young you will find your partner before you got eaten I am sure about that. Did you gogle Kamasutra?? by the way got scared about all that talk about Nazi Iam german Irony of the Karma. sabina Hi Sabina I can Google tantra or kamasutra and besides some XXX etc stuff nothing much comes out...well there are "workshops" that like to charge hilarious amounts etc...also I doubt though that anyone in my area is an "expert" in such things (perhaps it is time i become an expert..hehe...imagine that a..) Breath in...feel your breath...feel it...going up....the rising....breath..now spread the....energy...and let it fill you inside...the energy....cumming...all over you...than just breath out and relax this completes our session for today What I would prefer is some pristine information about this not something that was "modernized" scared of the past? the Reich was also down here...they were not alone, Mussolini also had an appetite...people died, "territory" was lost...grandma told me some stories about how it was...2 of my uncles were forcibly drafted and froze somewhere in Russia (not official though)...it was not pleasant ... but that is the past...don't let it hunt you....do not let older generations to pass-on the problems (like here when the cave with the bodies of people killed after the war was "discovered"...and they started worming up the hate again...etc) amm I am getting too off topic now...

01-21-2010, 04:01 PM	#748
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas The post would have been too long had I continued with the story Brook. The question was about Ptah and I cut the story short after Ptah was not in the story any more. If someone asks about the continuations of the story, I shall provide it. As the expert on Egyptology, I am sure you can enlighten your 'friends' much better than myself. Cheers from the NASI Abraxas and Prost the Serpent's Ale! AA as in H.AA.RP, the raygun of Draconis! I already have...in my own way. but for the sake of this thread my view has been stated...the information you you have presented is slanted, and watered down. I will leave you with words from a stone tables washed up on a beach and reached the British Museum from Egypt in 1805. Cataloged as Stella #797 “Mighty and great is Ptah, who rendered power to the gods and their kas: through his heart, by which Horus became Ptah; and through his tongue, by which Thoth became Ptah. “When the eye sees, the ears hear, and the nose breathes, they report to the heart. It is the heart that brings forth every issue, and the tongue that repeats the thought of the heart. Thus were fashioned all the gods: even Atum and his Ennead. “Every divine word has come into existence through the heart’s thought and tongue’s command...” “Thus it was—by such speech—that the kas were created and the maid servants of the kas. “It is these that make all sustenance, all food; all that is liked and all that is loathed. “Thus it was he who gave life to the peaceful and death to the transgressor. “Thus it was he who made every work, every craft...”

01-21-2010, 04:25 PM	#749
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) I love this humorous side of Abrax. Love it. Could you comment on the unification of souls Abrax? And not to worry, I will never run out of questions.

01-21-2010, 04:39 PM	#750
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Quote: Originally Posted by BROOK I already have...in my own way. but for the sake of this thread my view has been stated...the information you you have presented is slanted, and watered down. I will leave you with words from a stone tables washed up on a beach and reached the British Museum from Egypt in 1805. Cataloged as Stella #797 “Mighty and great is Ptah, who rendered power to the gods and their kas: through his heart, by which Horus became Ptah; and through his tongue, by which Thoth became Ptah. “When the eye sees, the ears hear, and the nose breathes, they report to the heart. It is the heart that brings forth every issue, and the tongue that repeats the thought of the heart. Thus were fashioned all the gods: even Atum and his Ennead. “Every divine word has come into existence through the heart’s thought and tongue’s command...” “Thus it was—by such speech—that the kas were created and the maid servants of the kas. “It is these that make all sustenance, all food; all that is liked and all that is loathed. “Thus it was he who gave life to the peaceful and death to the transgressor. “Thus it was he who made every work, every craft...” Well well. The watered down version of Thuban is washed and cleansed by the stone tablets of Ptah as Thoth washed up on the beach and teleported to the British museum from which our Egyptian Goddess of the Sothian knowledge has left her throne of majesty in the Ab of Isis to bless the poor Thuban dragon souls with her sublime and splendiferous wisdom of Egyptian lore. Well done my queen Nefertiti, says Akhenaten, bowing to Aton ex Ra satisfied. Nfr-Nfrw-Itn, AA