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01-04-2010, 06:16 PM	#26​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban the end goal, is AGAPE aka LOVE we are here, in full & loving service, to all ~ (this post, has reminded us, to go pull info from 9/9/2007, the real 9/9/9 and, 10/10/2008, the real 10-10-10) we'll gather that, and, post it to this thread, later
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01-04-2010, 06:16 PM	#27​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid Abraxasinas if you are who you say you are then you are aware of my presence here yes? I reconize your name structure to be older than old. Say around 35 billion "earth" years? If you are real, then what is my true name? I am who I say I am and I am aware of your presence, as I have seen your name Flying Pyramid before on this forum. You are Ra! I am 19.11 billion years old as an agency of Thuban! I am real and as real as anyone here is real; I simply have at this point in time a greater remembrance through my connection to Thuban. My realness or your realness or anyones realness then is rather unimportant to label this realness with names, as all intelligences evolved in consciousness have many many names to label themselves with! Peace be with you Ra-Harmakhis your perceived violation of the code of honour was not as you have judged it. It was as necessary as was the 'retracing of the stairs of fire' by Lucifer; thus allowing gravitation to be born to bring the physicality of the sarcophagus into material existence. You know of what I speak. Anubis Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-04-2010 at 06:21 PM.
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01-04-2010, 06:18 PM	#28​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Agape ( agapanthus)
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01-04-2010, 06:23 PM	#29​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape A title of the goddess Isis was agapeh theon, or "beloved/darling of the gods," denoting her role as a fertility/life goddess a nd her pairing as a partner with the masculine god aspects. While this pairing was often sexual in nature, the term agapeh implied a genuine affection and deep love for the goddess.[citation needed] Although some sources claim agapeh appears in the Odyssey twice, the word is in fact not used. Instead, two forms of the word agape may be found: agapêton and agapazomenoi. Agapêton is found in Book 5 of the Odyssey and means "beloved" or "well-loved". Agapazomenoi is found in books 7 and 17 of the Odyssey and means “to treat with affection”. The verb agapao is used extensively in the Septuagint as the translation of the common Hebrew term for love which is used to show affection for husband/wife and children, brotherly love, and God's love for humanity. It is uncertain why agapao was chosen, but similarity of consonant sounds (aḥava) may have played a part. The Greek concept may have originated as a transliteration from some Semitic tongue. This usage provides the context for the choice of this otherwise obscure word, in preference to other more common Greek words, as the most frequently used word for love in Christian writings.[citation needed] The use of the noun agape in this way appears to be an innovation of the New Testament writers, but is clearly derived from the use of the verb agapao in the Septuagint. Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 06:56 PM.
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01-04-2010, 06:29 PM	#30​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape agape ~ Agape (pronounced /ˈæɡə.piː/ AG-ə-pee;[1] and sometimes /əˈɡɑː.peɪ/ ə-GAH-pay after the Classical Greek agápē; Modern Greek: αγάπη [aˈɣapi]), also called parental love, is one of several Greek words translated into English as love. Many have thought that this word represents divine, unconditional, self-sacrificing, active, volitional, and thoughtful love. Although the word does not have specific religious connotation, the word has been used by a variety of contemporary and ancient sources, including Biblical authors and Christian authors. Thomas Jay Oord has defined agape as "an intentional response to promote well-being when responding to that which has generated ill-being In his book, The Pilgrimage, author Paulo Coelho defines it as "the love that consumes," i.e., the highest and purest form of love, one that surpasses all other types of affection. Greek philosophers at the time of Plato and other ancient authors have used forms of the word to denote love of a spouse or family, or affection for a particular activity, in contrast to philia—an affection that could denote either brotherhood or generally non-sexual affection, and eros, an affection of a sexual nature. Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 06:56 PM.
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01-04-2010, 06:35 PM	#31​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban AGAPE ~ Transpersonal Love Transpersonal Love BY PHIL WITTMEYER www.michaelteachings.com So then, what is Agape — transpersonal love? First of all, the personal self can love but it cannot Agape. It is impossible for the everyday consciousness that we perceive as ourselves to express Agape. Only the "transpersonal" aspect of ourselves can do this. This aspect has been spoken of by mystics and saints and some psychologists and goes by different names Many call it the "higher self" or the "soul". Michael calls it "Essence" and says it is the innermost core of our being. It is the most real part of us and it does not change. Even though it is described as "innermost", at the same time Essence is said to be "beyond" or "above" all levels of the personal self, from whence it observes them all. Have you ever noticed that deep within your psyche is a consciousness that watches everything you do? Have you noticed that it is unwavering and unperturbable, unlike your chameleon personality? This is a veiled view of Essence — "the Witness", as some call it. A clear communication between Essence and the personal self is said to be "Agape". Agape happens when the garbage that separates the personal self from Essence is discarded. Agape exists in two forms: contact of the personal self with one's Essence, and contact of one's Essence with the Essence of another person. The first is obviously necessary before the second can be experienced by the personal self. Michael's teaching is primarily concerned with how to increase personal love and transpersonal Agape — hence my title: MAKING LOVE. And what is the experience of Agape like? It is not a bolt of lightning in your consciousness, or a chill that goes up and down your spine. It is not a tingling in your extremities or a surprise that takes your breath away. It is not a thrill in your heart or a light in your mind. These are all things of the personal self. Transpersonal love is just that — beyond personal love. It is a letting go of everything personal, a relaxation of effort in the personal self. All the personal cares and concerns are transcended or transmuted. When the personal self experiences Agape there is a deep sense of inner satisfaction and contentment rather than external excitement. It is the ultimate "peace of mind". How does Agape do this? Because it has no emphasis of any kind. There is no possessiveness nor expectation. There is neither desire nor fear of anything. There is neither approval nor disapproval of anything or anyone. There is neither guilt nor forgiveness. There is neither encouragement nor discouragement. There is freedom and responsibility equally. There is giving and receiving with equal grace. Its terms are that there are no terms — it is unconditional, without qualification. Why is Agape this way? Because it reconciles all the polarities. It is intimate but without being invasive. It is empathetic but without being negatively affected. It is connected to everything but with complete freedom as well. It is always appropriate for the occasion but without ever losing its integrity or honesty. It has a powerful effect but is never coercive, intrusive, or manipulative. It is disinterested in the outcome of its actions, but always responsible for them. These things probably seem paradoxical to the personal self. They are not paradoxical to the transpersonal self. Agape manifested by the personal self has the effect of purifying all forms of personal love. Only when we are in touch with our Essence can we express our personal love without distortion or misapplication. (that is 'real' agape ~ or 'real' love) Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 06:47 PM.
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01-04-2010, 06:41 PM	#32​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban That is a sh*tload of copy pasting susan...where are you getting this from?
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01-04-2010, 06:48 PM	#33​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Céline That is a sh*tload of copy pasting susan...where are you getting this from? the definition of agape - from a dictionary ~ directly from the dictionary - with NO cut/or paste (it is referenced on the top line) the other one, is an article - source is shown within the posting we thought, that, a definition of agape, might be required by some people since, a flower, is part of iT ALL, thanks for the picture of an agape flower Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 06:59 PM.
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01-04-2010, 06:53 PM	#34​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by THE eXchanger A title of the goddess Isis was agapeh theon, or "beloved/darling of the gods," denoting her role as a fertility/life goddess a nd her pairing as a partner with the masculine god aspects. While this pairing was often sexual in nature, the term agapeh implied a genuine affection and deep love for the goddess.[citation needed] Although some sources claim agapeh appears in the Odyssey twice, the word is in fact not used. Instead, two forms of the word agape may be found: agapêton and agapazomenoi. Agapêton is found in Book 5 of the Odyssey and means "beloved" or "well-loved". Agapazomenoi is found in books 7 and 17 of the Odyssey and means “to treat with affection”. The verb agapao is used extensively in the Septuagint as the translation of the common Hebrew term for love which is used to show affection for husband/wife and children, brotherly love, and God's love for humanity. It is uncertain why agapao was chosen, but similarity of consonant sounds (aḥava) may have played a part. The Greek concept may have originated as a transliteration from some Semitic tongue. This usage provides the context for the choice of this otherwise obscure word, in preference to other more common Greek words, as the most frequently used word for love in Christian writings.[citation needed] The use of the noun agape in this way appears to be an innovation of the New Testament writers, but is clearly derived from the use of the verb agapao in the Septuagint. This is you typing? Yes answers are needed for some...but...take care of yourself..my dear..you must be tired...
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01-04-2010, 06:56 PM	#35​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban it is straight of here: from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape
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01-04-2010, 06:58 PM	#36​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Did you see the picture of the agape flower? i am glad to know you are not typing all that...besides youd have to be a marathon typist! lol
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01-04-2010, 07:01 PM	#37​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Céline This is you typing? Yes answers are needed for some...but...take care of yourself..my dear..you must be tired... NOPE, iT is simply me, adding to a conversation...and, quoting the source Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 07:04 PM.
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01-04-2010, 07:04 PM	#38​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by THE eXchanger N we are NOT dumb enough, to post, private pm's etc., and, get terminated Huh? i am not sure what you are talking about. i have no doubt you are not dumb please forgive if there was any misunderstanding.. i just asked if you saw the flower i posted...
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01-04-2010, 07:06 PM	#39​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Céline Did you see the picture of the agape flower? i am glad to know you are not typing all that...besides youd have to be a marathon typist! lol The proper name for the flower is Agapanthus, agape is its common name
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01-04-2010, 07:09 PM	#40​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by THE eXchanger The proper name for the flower is Agapanthus, agape is its common name Yes i know...just thought it was a nice visual for your definition... Flowers are the physical manifestation of Gaias beauty.
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01-04-2010, 07:26 PM	#41​
Stargazer1965 Hall Monitor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 733	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start?? Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed. I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl. Can someone help me in layman's terms?? I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories. I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks
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01-04-2010, 07:31 PM	#42​
Flying Pyramid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stargazer1965 Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start?? Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed. I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl. Can someone help me in layman's terms?? I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories. I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks Read all, hear all, feel all, see all, know all. Let discernment be your guide. Contemplate everything. Discern what resonates with you and you will hear, see , feel all.
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01-04-2010, 07:38 PM	#43​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion You are mistaken in your assumptions dear, there are 15 manifested dimensions in 5 Harmonic Universes appart from the God worlds that are beyond that and don't get qualifyed as dimensions. Human scientist will soon discover that is the case. Anyway I see you are just repeting what you have been told in your channeling Her name is A'sha not Ayesha so do me a favour, study the material and don't make presumtions, I am not here to do the work for you I have given you enough information for you to ponder...and the link to the "Introductory-Topic Summary 2" please note the word "Introductory". The paper is about 50 pages long and will answer a lot of questions for you. Obviously you are free to choose whatever path you want, we all have still free chooice but not for long if the fallen dragons have their way... I believe that contraty to the Drakonian/Reptilian/NWO agenda, people should have the opportunity to see the two sides and make their informed decision and not be draged into the "illusion" of ascension when they are actually falling into a black hole and becoming like any other fallen angels... lifeless as they get detached from their god source and lose their eternal potential The peoples of this planet have the right to chose, openly to have all the information...why your masters hide it? Since you say the information from the MCEO Guardian Alliance 2nd summary is disinformation, without having taken the trouble of even reading it, I say yours is too; difference is that I took the trouble of reading it and I think much of it is nonsense to try to make it look scientifical. Prove to me with scientific facts that what you say is correct with the citation of the relevant scientific papers and I will believe you What it is true is that your masters are intending to blast us with a pulse with the intention to create the 6th and final extinction on Earth by creating pole shift in 2012. Don't we have the right to chose our destiny? I am not a wingmaker but I AM a Child of the Original ONE I AM a Ray of the Original Sun I AM wholeness, I AM love I AM the Truth that Spans the Sands of Time..... I don't need your dragons to come and patronize me, twist the words of the CDT plates and play them against me, thank you I don't have any masters for I AM one with the divine...thankfully I KNOW the truth first hand and can not get bambuzled with soft ego enhancing words It seems that you are not aware of it but you are in the path of fall? are you to forgo your eternal life for finite vampire life? or you have already done monadic reversal? I respect your choice...and my love for you is eternal, all the same one day all the fallen ones will come back home as space dust for nothing is ouside of the divine There are many things your masters have not told you I see... In Eternal love Wow, what an emotion-charged response from a starchild which is the truth that spans the sands of time. 1. I agree with you, there are indeed 5 harmonic universes in the greater schema of the unfoldments. The labelings of those 5 harmonic universes then however becomes subject to the individual creativity wrt the cosmogonies and the cosmologies - my dear. You have for example the wisdom saying of five such universes in paradise: (19) Jesus says: (1)"Blessed is he who was, before he came into being. (2) If you become disciples of mine (and) listen to my words, these stones will serve you. (3) For you have five trees in Paradise that do not change during summer (and) winter, and their leaves do not fall. (4) Whoever comes to know them will not taste death." Then there are precisely five regular polyhedrons of Archimedes, knows as the Platonic Solids. Then there are precisely five superstring classes, which unify the quantum mechanics within 10 dimensions of chiral superstrings and within nonchiral 26 dimensions of gauge bosons. So the statement of 5 harmonic universes in 15 dimensions requires definition so the concept can be utilized in a more general manner. Similarly, you should define the 'God worlds' beyond the 15 dimensions of the 5 harmonic universes to deviate from wordplay. 2. Where have I stated that I am channeling? I do no such thing, as my tripartite tier of consciousness has attained a certain harmony between the waking-, the sub- and the super. Therefore I am repeating the data I know from my affinity with Thuban communicated by telepathic means in full consciousness. 3. I stand corrected, you have indeed more familiarity with A'sha, than I have in this spacetime interaction. I simply copied the name from a post and typed it as Ayesha instead of A'sha. 4. I do not expect you to do my work for me; neither do I presume or make judgements upon observations before having analysed the subject matter under consideration. 5. Thank you for the information you have given me to ponder. I shall use my discernment to separate the 'chaff from the wheat' as the wisdom saying states. So you believe that the humans will fall into Black Holes, where they then become like the 'fallen angels' and lose their souls and spiritual identities, should the 'nasty' dragons get their way? Do you understand the physics of Black Holes sufficiently to define the parameters to allow such an occurrence? Do you know how the physical interaction between Black Holes and physical bodies manifests? Do you know how the metaphysicality and/or the physicality of humans and 'fallen angels' relates to each other and then to the dynamics of Black Holes? Do you know what the god-source is under those initial and boundary conditions of Black Holes interacting physically with other energies? Do you know what 'fallen angels' are in such terminology? 6. I never said that the information from the Guardian Alliance is disinformation. I said that, being part of the lowerD universe, ALL information becomes subject to an incomplete agenda and therefore all things are partially true and partially incorrect in the evaluation processes applied in dichotomised or dualised systems. 7. It is pleasing to see that you try to discern the scientific content of your source material. Some of the scientific data from Thuban has been published in this planetary spacetime environment, but much more is accessible by extraterrestrial data collectors. The proportion which has been published in the Earth environment will remain in relative obscurity until physical contact with the nearest information collectors has been made. These are sentiences from one of yur nearest starsystems, namely Canis Major, Sirius, the DogStar so 8.4 lightyears away. Below are some references you can use to access some of the information from Fafnir, the central library of Thuban in the capitol Dragonia. http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder6.pdf http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder7.pdf http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder8.pdf And more if you replace the number # by 1-10. 8. It is untrue that any cosmic- extraterrestrial or interdimensional race is planning to 'blast' the earth and its inhabitants with some 'weapon' to cause a poleshift in 2012. Yes you are not only free to create your own destiny, but you are destined to travel and communicate to and with the lifeforms within the galaxies to share your experiences of your 'great metamorphosis' from human caterpillar to starhuman butterfly with others. Eventually, you my dear starchild from Cassiopeia, you will achieve galactic consciousness and your lightbody will facilitate the galaxies and stars you now observe as the cells within your body. You will then no longer be a Queen of the Bull, but you shall be a Universe interacting with other Universes. 9. You are LOVE indeed daughter of the Stars and your frequency is 3 thousand million billion trillion cycles per cosmic second mensuration. 10. You truly honour me in terming this 'my dragons'. In a way the Dragons are like pets - Man's Best Friend Loyal and True like the Dogs of Sirius who are your pets in the decouplings of the DNA between the realms. Do you know, that when you pet and play with your dogs you are interacting with Sirian intelligence? Do you know that when you abuse your cats, you abuse Andromedean sentience? Why then should ANY alien race intend to destroy this planet, when their own familiars are residing as the Gaian lifeforms? 11. It is very good, that you have come too the understanding through your endeavours of Being One with the Divine I Am. I congratulate you upon your graduation from the ignorance about this factuality. 12. Thank you for respecting my choices and yes I am the Count of the Vampyresd - Dracula the Horrible graduated onto the galactic level of Thuban from Transylvania. 13. The Love of the Dragons is with you Princess in Wonderland. Be well and attentive on your path towards your self-remembrance and your breaking the shell of your cocoon. Abraxas
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01-04-2010, 07:58 PM	#44​
Flying Pyramid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas I am who I say I am and I am aware of your presence, as I have seen your name Flying Pyramid before on this forum. You are Ra! I am 19.11 billion years old as an agency of Thuban! I am real and as real as anyone here is real; I simply have at this point in time a greater remembrance through my connection to Thuban. My realness or your realness or anyones realness then is rather unimportant to label this realness with names, as all intelligences evolved in consciousness have many many names to label themselves with! Peace be with you Ra-Harmakhis your perceived violation of the code of honour was not as you have judged it. It was as necessary as was the 'retracing of the stairs of fire' by Lucifer; thus allowing gravitation to be born to bring the physicality of the sarcophagus into material existence. You know of what I speak. Anubis Hello and welcome Agenta, From what decree was it made to release your information? You are aware of the doings of the governments of this density within the Gaia yes? These workings and yours are not the same. Have you been given a decree to proceed and face?
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01-04-2010, 08:08 PM	#45​
Spregovori Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas I herewith invite all and any of you to bring forward your queries about origins and destiny and the ponderings you may have harboured on this forum in a Question and Answer format. I will do my best to accomodate your queries in consulting the libraries and data bases of Thuban. To speak truthfully - I most likely fail to understand most of your post...thus my questions will not be about all the "complicated stuff" I do intend to re-read your post... I also ask (if possible), for easy to understand answers, but please do not simplify in case the answer will lost its "essence" and please do not hesitate to go into great detail. Thank you 1. I am lost...empty. We are lost...as people. I/we (majority of population)...we do not know what/who we are. I am not asking about the origins of species...but who we are "inside" There are ideas but they are all very...vague... How can I/we change that? How can we get to know ourselves? How can we be certain that what we do/think is right? Who/What am I? 2. Project Camelot and all of its interviewees - your thoughts about it? Do you "see" any thing or anyone related to Project Camelot dishonest/deceitful? 3. Galactic federation of Light - your thoughts about it? 4. Much is based around the concept of free will... Is there such a thing as free will? If...to what extent can it be applied? Can I for example **hypothetically** use my free will to end the existence of my soul - thus for ever end my existance in all possible meanings? If soul can not be ended...and I **hypothetically** express a choice for this to happen...can than be said that there is no free will? 5. Some say there is currently a large number of (what we call ET) ships around or in "near" (very, very close) vicinity of planet Earth. True or False? If true - what is their intention? 6. Dogajale so se (dogajajo se) stvari...določene izven mojega vpliva, določene zaradi mojega vpliva. Na nič od tega nisem ponosen. Menda lahko vidiš več kot pa je napisano... Zdej seveda sprašujem...kakšne posledice bodo te stvari pustile - zame osebno? Kako se rešim tega? opomba: spletni prevajalniki niso točni
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01-04-2010, 08:20 PM	#46​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid Hello and welcome Agenta, From what decree was it made to release your information? You are aware of the doings of the governments of this density within the Gaia yes? These workings and yours are not the same. Have you been given a decree to proceed and face? Hello sunny one with the energy of exhuberance. The 'decree' was not implemented on earth, but what you may term the edge of the 10D universe. I am only partially aware of the government agendas, but am well informed about the agendas behind the agendas. The nonphysical agenda behind the fiscalizers behind the illuminated ones behind the governmental instutions behind the military-polito-religous organisers behind individual exponents to be more precise. I am not an agent nor a doubleagent for any clandestine operation on any dimensional level. I remain an unknown quantity even to the highest echelons of the fiscalizers and this shall remain so until December 2011 in relative appropriations. As I have no dealings whatsoever with any control structure on the planet, except some obscure identifications common to most; I have been given no decrees to face or do anything by such operators and structures. May the ferromagnetic basis in its monopolar diamagnetic exclusion allow you to continue to simplify the levitation mechanics of supercooled superconductors. Anubis
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01-04-2010, 08:25 PM	#47​
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban 'We stood before it and began to freeze inside from the exertion. We questioned the painting, berated it, made love to it, prayed to it: We called it mother, called it whore and sl#t, called it our beloved, called it Abraxas...' (Excerpt from 'DEMIAN' by Hermann Hesse)
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Flying Pyramid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104

Originally Posted by abraxasinas Hello sunny one with the energy of exhuberance. The 'decree' was not implemented on earth, but what you may term the edge of the 10D universe. I am only partially aware of the government agendas, but am well informed about the agendas behind the agendas. The nonphysical agenda behind the fiscalizers behind the illuminated ones behind the governmental instutions behind the military-polito-religous organisers behind individual exponents to be more precise. I am not an agent nor a doubleagent for any clandestine operation on any dimensional level. I remain an unknown quantity even to the highest echelons of the fiscalizers and this shall remain so until December 2011 in relative appropriations. As I have no dealings whatsoever with any control structure on the planet, except some obscure identifications common to most; I have been given no decrees to face or do anything by such operators and structures. May the ferromagnetic basis in its monopolar diamagnetic exclusion allow you to continue to simplify the levitation mechanics of supercooled superconductors. Anubis

I am mindfull of the agendas of those with truths whispering in my ears, as you should be as well.
As all begins to crystalize into tangible truth i bid you peace, love & light Anubis, and a word to the wise, "be mindful the intentions of those you "follow" for you only follow yourself". - RA/I]

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01-04-2010, 08:46 PM	#49​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Abraxas, your quoted text in green Wow, what an emotion-charged response from a starchild which is the truth that spans the sands of time. You have for example the wisdom saying of five such universes in paradise: (19) Jesus says: (1)"Blessed is he who was, before he came into being. (2) If you become disciples of mine (and) listen to my words, these stones will serve you. (3) For you have five trees in Paradise that do not change during summer (and) winter, and their leaves do not fall. (4) Whoever comes to know them will not taste death." To witch one of the three "Jesus" are you referring to? Then there are precisely five regular polyhedrons of Archimedes, knows as the Platonic Solids. Which are part of the Metatronic Sciences Then there are precisely five superstring classes, which unify the quantum mechanics within 10 dimensions of chiral superstrings and within nonchiral 26 dimensions of gauge bosons. So now you are talking of 10 dimensions, of course the falled angelics have only 10 strands of distorted DNA don't they? Similarly, you should define the 'God worlds' beyond the 15 dimensions of the 5 harmonic universes to deviate from wordplay. I should nothing but graciously I’ll tell you that beyond the 5fh Harmonic Universe, the realm of the Golden Rishi, there are three more realms of sound and beyond that there is the realm of the Yunasai 2. Where have I stated that I am channeling? I do no such thing, as my tripartite tier of consciousness has attained a certain harmony between the waking-, the sub- and the super. Therefore I am repeating the data I know from my affinity with Thuban communicated by telepathic means in full consciousness. Well then, “you are also part of the lowerD” as you point out in 6, you can not have it both ways; therefore you are susceptible to the filters of the NET, so your information has to be filtered too to separate the wheat from the chaff. The MCEO has three speakers and all downloads are compared between them to avoid misrepresentations of the original data I AM a multiuniversal being that expands 5 Harmonic Universe, a expression of the Mashaya Hana, as many in this planet are now 5. Thank you for the information you have given me to ponder. I shall use my discernment to separate the 'chaff from the wheat' as the wisdom saying states. So you believe that the humans will fall into Black Holes, where they then become like the 'fallen angels' and lose their souls and spiritual identities, should the 'nasty' dragons get their way? Do you understand the physics of Black Holes sufficiently to define the parameters to allow such an occurrence? Do you know how the physical interaction between Black Holes and physical bodies manifests? Do you know how the metaphysicality and/or the physicality of humans and 'fallen angels' relates to each other and then to the dynamics of Black Holes? Do you know what the god-source is under those initial and boundary conditions of Black Holes interacting physically with other energies? Do you know what 'fallen angels' are in such terminology? Yes I do 6. I never said that the information from the Guardian Alliance is disinformation. I said that, being part of the lowerD universe, ALL information becomes subject to an incomplete agenda and therefore all things are partially true and partially incorrect in the evaluation processes applied in dichotomised or dualised systems. Well as you see you are mistaken regarding the Guardian Alliance 7. It is pleasing to see that you try to discern the scientific content of your source material. Some of the scientific data from Thuban has been published in this planetary spacetime environment, but much more is accessible by extraterrestrial data collectors. The proportion which has been published in the Earth environment will remain in relative obscurity until physical contact with the nearest information collectors has been made. These are sentiences from one of yur nearest starsystems, namely Canis Major, Sirius, the DogStar so 8.4 lightyears away. Below are some references you can use to access some of the information from Fafnir, the central library of Thuban in the capitol Dragonia. http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder6.pdf http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder7.pdf http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder8.pdf And more if you replace the number # by 1-10. Thank you for the links I will study them and comment on them when I am ready 8. It is untrue that any cosmic- extraterrestrial or interdimensional race is planning to 'blast' the earth and its inhabitants with some 'weapon' to cause a poleshift in 2012. Yes you are not only free to create your own destiny, but you are destined to travel and communicate to and with the lifeforms within the galaxies to share your experiences of your 'great metamorphosis' from human caterpillar to starhuman butterfly with others. Eventually, you my dear starchild from Cassiopeia, you will achieve galactic consciousness and your lightbody will facilitate the galaxies and stars you now observe as the cells within your body. You will then no longer be a Queen of the Bull, but you shall be a Universe interacting with other Universes. No it isn't, the Elders intent regarding the 2012 aligment with Sagitarius A is to cause pole shift as the gravitron reached 55 metatronic spin, and not I am not from Cassiopea 10. You truly honour me in terming this 'my dragons'. In a way the Dragons are like pets - Man's Best Friend Loyal and True like the Dogs of Sirius who are your pets in the decouplings of the DNA between the realms. Do you know, that when you pet and play with your dogs you are interacting with Sirian intelligence? Do you know that when you abuse your cats, you abuse Andromedean sentience? I know that when you talk about dragons is metaphorical, it refers to certain fallen races and they are distinguish by colour denomination, mind games will not work here. And yes pets can sometimes have connections with beings of other systems Why then should ANY alien race intend to destroy this planet, when their own familiars are residing as the Gaian lifeforms? Darling is IAIA HU3, a sun that got attacked by the fallen races and their wormholes, from IAIA was down stepped Tara HU2(now Alcione) and from the fall of TARA was down stepped part of the Milky WayHU1 including the Pleiades and the Solar System, the lowest of God's heavens The destruction your people intend is not for the destruction sake, I know that, it is borne of the need for quantum, you should know this, as the black holes are sepparated from source and therefore do not have access to the eternal flow and backflow of energy. Would it not be easier for your races to do space dust return? How much more are you going to suffer? How many more your races will sacrifice? 11. It is very good, that you have come too the understanding through your endeavours of Being One with the Divine I Am. I congratulate you upon your graduation from the ignorance about this factuality. I AM one with the All Oneness, 12. Thank you for respecting my choices and yes I am the Count of the Vampyresd - Dracula the Horrible graduated onto the galactic level of Thuban from Transylvania. Well, I have encountered vampires before but never found one that was willing to accept it was one, well done! I like Integrity Are you alike to Allister Crowley, or the BEAST 666 as he called himself? 13. The Love of the Dragons is with you Princess in Wonderland. Be well and attentive on your path towards your self-remembrance and your breaking the shell of your cocoon. I rather not "break anything, it has taken quite a bit of effort to get rid of all the fallen angelic contraptions that harness the human body and the distortions that your kin have created in the template of the Milky Way In Eternal Love Last edited by Stardustaquarion; 01-04-2010 at 08:51 PM.
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01-04-2010, 09:04 PM	#50​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban A video link that explains "NEW "DEATH STAR" BLACK HOLE DISCOVERED" from a regular TV station ITV View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4bZx_HKR-Y food for thought Cheers

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01-04-2010, 09:10 PM	#51​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban did the anchoring of 11/11/2009 - NOT set The Mother Earth into 11D ??? or, can it take 33 days, to click in ???
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01-04-2010, 09:13 PM	#52​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Spregovori To speak truthfully - I most likely fail to understand most of your post...thus my questions will not be about all the "complicated stuff" I do intend to re-read your post... I also ask (if possible), for easy to understand answers, but please do not simplify in case the answer will lost its "essence" and please do not hesitate to go into great detail. Thank you 1. I am lost...empty. We are lost...as people. I/we (majority of population)...we do not know what/who we are. I am not asking about the origins of species...but who we are "inside" There are ideas but they are all very...vague... These are questions which deserve meaningful answers Spregovori. You are inside the Creator of your experience. The emptiness you experience relates to many things, including your forgetfulness of your origins and the many disapppointments you have suffered in your love expectations from other people around you. A very simple advice is for you to go into the wilderness of nature and observe the birds, the trees and the flora and fauna. Even better if you share those experiences with your dog or some other pet (dogs are Man's Best Friend remember). There is thread here called 'The Secret of Humanity', which would help you to remember. How can I/we change that? How can we get to know ourselves? How can we be certain that what we do/think is right? You can change your circumstances in giving your energies of thought and perception to the environment around yourself. Consider the saying: 'The Love you withold will haunt you!" The first step into the inner self is the 'Love of Yourself'. Once you know WHO you are in this world and WHY you have chosen to experience misery; namely to MIRROR yourself in EVERYTHING you encounter; then you shall find purpose and rediscover your inner energies, the potentials you have shut in due to your experienced unhappiness. You can be certain about things only relative to your own perceptions; say a mathematical proof will give relative certainty to a mathematician and seeing a ufo land in the back yard will give relative certainty to the witnessing observer. Who/What am I? You are the creator of the universe you live in AS the collective and sumtotal of all of the intelligence and 'soul-energy' contained in the universe. You are a holofractal hologram of this oneness and so should you remember your collective cosmic ID, you would realise the totality you are. Npow what happens to a totality? Because it is so total: omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and omnitimed - this totality is the epitome of LONELINESS. You and anyone experiencing loneliness partakes in the energy state of the collective before the universe existed in space and in time and in matter. So here is a reason for experiencing this unhappiness. Only after experiencing unhappiness, will happiness become appreciated when it enters your sphere of perception and experience. 2. Project Camelot and all of its interviewees - your thoughts about it? Do you "see" any thing or anyone related to Project Camelot dishonest/deceitful? The most positive thing about PC are the contributors on forums such as this one. I call this positive, because it is a win-win situation fore all involved. The founders have established the platform for the interactions and communications between all and sundry to become possible. WE could not communicate the way we do, if this forum would not exist. All of the interviewees and contributors here carry part of the solution in say a positive converging mode and a negative diverging mode. The convergence synergizes thoughts and perceptions within groupminds and collective agendas, which so assume an enhanced potency in supplementing the collective planetary group-consciousness. The divergence does the same in an antimode, meaning that the divergence becomes an individual convergence instead of a collective convergence. However, even this becomes beneficial in the 'greater agenda', because this manifests a polarisation between the collective group-consciousness and the individuated minds within a collective of isolated minds, say. 3. Galactic federation of Light - your thoughts about it? There are many such things. The basic directive for every human on the planet at thius time is: CREATE - CREATE Scenarios with your Imagination - Create the Scenarios in SHARING what you have IMAGED metaphysically in your thought. - Because the time for physicalisation of your imaginations has arrived. So YOU can IMAGE such a Federation and your neighbour can do the same, if he chooses to engage in 'such fantasies'. Then if you and your neighbour decide to blend the TWO Galactic Federations into ONE; then the Galactifc Federation of the two of you as ateam, will most likely be more 'powerful' to manifest, than the isolated Galactic Federation of your friend down the road, who has chosen to NOT blend his Galactic Federation with another imaginer. 4. Much is based around the concept of free will... Is there such a thing as free will? If...to what extent can it be applied? Can I for example **hypothetically** use my free will to end the existence of my soul - thus for ever end my existance in all possible meanings? If soul can not be ended...and I **hypothetically** express a choice for this to happen...can than be said that there is no free will? Because you do not understand what you are experiencing you have developed a selfdenial or dislike of yourself on the level of the innermost beingness of your soul. Your soul IS God, the creator of all that exists and yes in this manner you have NO Free Will, as you cannot deexist God as the collective. However apart from this you DO have Free Will and you can choose to experience whatever you choose to experience with the physical, emotional, mental and psychophysical consequences your actions will entail. So you can choose to suffer on all levels above, or you can choose to first imagine and so create arelease from the suffering in changing your perceptions in reverse order from the psychosoma of the soul to the mind to the feelings to the physical body. 5. Some say there is currently a large number of (what we call ET) ships around or in "near" (very, very close) vicinity of planet Earth. True or False? If true - what is their intention? The ET ships at present cannot enter the realm of the Earth in a physical manner to a distance of 2 million kilometers (encompassing the Moon and so 5% to the planet Venus). However interdimensionally, they are like the clouds you see in the sky in a plasmic form. Any spaceship represents a 3D cross-section of a 4D spacial reality. This means spaceships are like the shadow you cast against a wall in the sunlight in a 3D-2D analogy. So one can invoke the presence of any ET interdimensionally and this 'contact' will be a shadow encounter, physically defined in frequency modulations and the physical higherD equivalence of mass as magnetomonopolic superconductive electric current. 6. Dogajale so se (dogajajo se) stvari...določene izven mojega vpliva, določene zaradi mojega vpliva. Na nič od tega nisem ponosen. Menda lahko vidiš več kot pa je napisano... Zdej seveda sprašujem...kakšne posledice bodo te stvari pustile - zame osebno? Kako se rešim tega? opomba: spletni prevajalniki niso točni I can translate languages like German, Spanish, French, Italian, Portugese, Dutch and Norwegian with my equipment; but Serbian or Macedonian or Croatiian is presently not accomodated. I shall answer you after you have translated your question for me to comment upon. You are the LoveChild of the Universe Spregovori and a Beloved of the Great Mother - try to give some love to someone and it shall return a hundredfold. Remember the old song: Tie a Yellow Ribbon round the old oak tree? I'm sure you can listen to it on the web - listen to it. Your Inner Knowing is stronger than your outer perception! I am your friend! Abraxas
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01-04-2010, 09:14 PM	#53​
JesterTerrestrial Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ontario, Earth, Milky Way, Love, Infinity x2 Posts: 5,267	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Hello...well there sure is a lot of information posted in this thread that i can not verify! Just thought I would say welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing at avalon. Everyone! Can you summarize yours and the councils agenda at this time. What is it that you hope to accomplish in your brief time here? Well have a great day...whatever dimension your in! JT
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01-04-2010, 09:17 PM	#54​
akopij Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: liege, belgium Posts: 67	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban hi all, best regards and thanks for the instructive debate to the contenders As you are dimension travelers I'd like to ask you about a certain place or group of entities I had met: The counsil of AZKHAM Well it's ok if it means nothing to you, just wanted to check it out. You're all amazing View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPIKFeaG53Y
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01-04-2010, 09:31 PM	#55​
Spregovori Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas I shall answer you after you have translated your question for me to comment upon. Abraxas The 6 is in Slovene language... (less than 2 million native speakers) The translation is am : Perhaps you can see more than it is written.... Curtain things happened...in the past...some are still happening now... Some of the things were/are beyond my influence, some of the things were/are because of my influence... I am not proud about this things... What I am interested in is about the implications of this things...regarding myself (does this sentence make sense?) I wish to know how it will...affect me..."judge" me... and what can I do to "solve the problem" end of translation. If you can not answer this...ok .... I do hope you can answer the rest (1,2,3,4,5) EDIt: just noticed the answer in quoted text EDIT2: I had a dog...he died...november 17. 2009....the injection ("mercy" call...made by me) I am...miss him...a lot thx for answers and good night end Last edited by Spregovori; 01-04-2010 at 09:51 PM.
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01-04-2010, 09:32 PM	#56​
bigmo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 122	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban I stand with my eyes wide open and listen to the banter between Abraxas and Stardust and wonder... where am I? If these things that they speak of have any truth then I fear for the human race. Are we indeed ready to tackle an understanding of such monumental proportions... I wonder. Peace
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01-04-2010, 09:35 PM	#57​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by THE eXchanger did the anchoring of 11/11/2009 - NOT set The Mother Earth into 11D ??? or, can it take 33 days, to click in ??? Hi eXchanger, I am afraid not, we are still here and if you take into the consideration that when the Anu Elohim fall they brought down with them 11.5 dimesions of our matrix, they destroyed USG12, which was re-built After that we had the IAIAN wars or the Orion wars The fall of Tara Harmonic Universes 4,3,2 have fallen so the only way out is from here Harmonic Universe 1 through the Middle domains Love
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01-04-2010, 09:39 PM	#58​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by bigmo I stand with my eyes wide open and listen to the banter between Abraxas and Stardust and wonder... where am I? If these things that they speak of have any truth then I fear for the human race. Are we indeed ready to tackle an understanding of such monumental proportions... I wonder. Peace I know, have you read the summaries or the Guardian Alliance? http://www.azuritepress.com/New%20Co...summary_2.html http://www.azuritepress.com/New%20Co...summary_1.html Alternatively, a different point of view is CLiff High and the web bots that in a way confirm what the Guardian Alliance is trying to convey to humanity http://www.youtube.com/user/webbotproject Love
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01-04-2010, 09:43 PM	#59​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Truth does not need to be believed, it just is. A Fact needs to be proven before being believed.. Truisms abound... listen to your heart.
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01-04-2010, 09:48 PM	#60​
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Hi Abraxas, Welcome, I'm kind of new to posting on this forum myself, although I heard a call from an old friend when asking for moderators and I volunteered to be a mod. I pray I do a good job of helping keep things civil here. Since you seem to know things which are not self evident, do you have any idea of where I'm coming from? I like things to last, so I start out slow. Only love can fill. Last edited by UncleJohn; 01-04-2010 at 09:52 PM.
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01-04-2010, 09:50 PM	#61​
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban When Bill Ryan said the Annunaki had internet access he wasn't kidding around That's just a joke BTW- no harm meant!
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01-04-2010, 09:55 PM	#62​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban personally, we think, the 11th anchored on 11/11/2009 and, The Mother Earth herself, has NOT fallen only some NOT all of the beings, that are upon here / or, above here, in the ethers some of them, have risen quite high ~ not high enough to match her ~ but at least 2 completes matrixes (24d/24D) which is 24 dimensions, and, 24 densities + the third matrix, some of which are at 9th density = & 33dimensions (thru 9 layers of density)
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01-04-2010, 09:55 PM	#63​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stargazer1965 Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start?? Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed. I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl. Can someone help me in layman's terms?? I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories. I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks Basically we live in a Universe which has 15 dimensions, each 3 dimensions make a harmonic universe (HU) HU5 - the domain of the Rishi (dimensions 13 to 15) HU4 - the domain of the Avatar where the Kryst is (dimensions 10 to 12) HU3 - the domain of the Oversoul or Monad (dimensions 7 to 9) HU2 - the domain of the Soul (dimensions 4 to 6) HU1 - Where we are You can start by readin the Voyager I and II books by Ashayana Deane or go to their website http://www.azuritepress.com/ and explore, there is a lot of information here to under Keylonic Sciences, Anna Hayes and Ashayana Cheers
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01-04-2010, 10:01 PM	#64​
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion Basically we live in a Universe which has 15 dimensions, each 3 dimensions make a harmonic universe (HU) HU5 - the domain of the Rishi (dimensions 13 to 15) HU4 - the domain of the Avatar where the Kryst is (dimensions 10 to 12) HU3 - the domain of the Oversoul or Monad (dimensions 7 to 9) HU2 - the domain of the Soul (dimensions 4 to 6) HU1 - Where we are You can start by readin the Voyager I and II books by Ashayana Deane or go to their website http://www.azuritepress.com/ and explore, there is a lot of information here to under Keylonic Sciences, Anna Hayes and Ashayana Cheers I've read all the Hayes books printed thus so far.......here comes my question......how can we prove what she says is the correct information? Yes, how do you prove it?
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01-04-2010, 10:03 PM	#65​
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion Hi eXchanger, I am afraid not, we are still here and if you take into the consideration that when the Anu Elohim fall they brought down with them 11.5 dimesions of our matrix, they destroyed USG12, which was re-built After that we had the IAIAN wars or the Orion wars The fall of Tara Harmonic Universes 4,3,2 have fallen so the only way out is from here Harmonic Universe 1 through the Middle domains Love Yes, it's her explanations of this and the knowing that all is not right here on planet earth that make me take her seriously.....
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01-04-2010, 10:03 PM	#66​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by THE eXchanger personally, we think, the 11th anchored on 11/11/2009 and, The Mother Earth herself, has NOT fallen only some NOT all of the beings, that are upon here / or, above here, in the ethers some of them, have risen quite high ~ not high enough to match her ~ but at least 2 completes matrixes (24D) + 9 d = 33dimensions (thru 9 layers of density) Well only time and the events of the future can tell what really happen but from my perspective, the 11th dimension correspond to the Buddha state...I don't see many buddhas walking in the streets I personally would like to see a different probability but I am aware that denial is the worst kind of fear. When we can see clearly after having studied and work out what is what, then we can make intelligent decision and hope for the best while preparing for the worse Things don't go away cos be brush them under the carpet so I am here on a quest to inform of the choice I feel is the one that resonates with me which is the Krystal ha choice or the choice of the Kryst I think people must have the opportunity to know all that is available before choosing As per the summaries from the Guardian Alliance, Earth has fallen and the Sun has suffer irreparable damage...maybe you should peruse the summaries? Love
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01-04-2010, 10:05 PM	#67​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban personally, we see the 15 or 1-5 - as 6 - a 6th density high astral harvest/ not dimensions (and, we are NOT sure, why she ties things, that way to dimensions) we are, NOT sure, what 'ad/h' thinks ....or, bases her facts on "abraxasinas" what do you think ??? (we know she also utilises, a myriad of newly formed names/and, descriptions for things too) some of which, we've never heard of (although, we do NOT profess to be an eXpert on her work- a. dean/hayes/ad/h, work) there are definitely threads of truth, in it Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 10:09 PM.
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abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion Abraxas, your quoted text in green Wow, what an emotion-charged response from a starchild which is the truth that spans the sands of time. You have for example the wisdom saying of five such universes in paradise: (19) Jesus says: (1)"Blessed is he who was, before he came into being. (2) If you become disciples of mine (and) listen to my words, these stones will serve you. (3) For you have five trees in Paradise that do not change during summer (and) winter, and their leaves do not fall. (4) Whoever comes to know them will not taste death." To witch one of the three "Jesus" are you referring to? There's only the One as a template for the Many! Then there are precisely five regular polyhedrons of Archimedes, knows as the Platonic Solids. Which are part of the Metatronic Sciences The Metatronic Sciences are a minor subset of Dragonian Omniscience and so what you term Metatronic Sciences are not what Dragons consider advanced interdimensional physics. Then there are precisely five superstring classes, which unify the quantum mechanics within 10 dimensions of chiral superstrings and within nonchiral 26 dimensions of gauge bosons. So now you are talking of 10 dimensions, of course the falled angelics have only 10 strands of distorted DNA don't they? You seem not to understand tha basics of 12-dimensional supervolumars encompassing 11-dimensional supermembranes encompassing 10-dimensional superstrings. The rootr reductions crystallize 1-2-3 of the Minkowski spacetime. To converse with you about 'fallen angelics', you are required your usage of terms before debate can be meaningful. Similarly, you should define the 'God worlds' beyond the 15 dimensions of the 5 harmonic universes to deviate from wordplay. I should nothing but graciously I’ll tell you that beyond the 5fh Harmonic Universe, the realm of the Golden Rishi, there are three more realms of sound and beyond that there is the realm of the Yunasai You seem very hostile and defensive for one claiming to be so spiritually advanced and filled by the Love of God. You are using labellings, which are arbitrary in the licence of the cocreators residing within the massparametric universe of inertial lightspeed invariance restriction. 2. Where have I stated that I am channeling? I do no such thing, as my tripartite tier of consciousness has attained a certain harmony between the waking-, the sub- and the super. Therefore I am repeating the data I know from my affinity with Thuban communicated by telepathic means in full consciousness. Well then, “you are also part of the lowerD” as you point out in 6, you can not have it both ways; therefore you are susceptible to the filters of the NET, so your information has to be filtered too to separate the wheat from the chaff. The MCEO has three speakers and all downloads are compared between them to avoid misrepresentations of the original data I AM a multiuniversal being that expands 5 Harmonic Universe, a expression of the Mashaya Hana, as many in this planet are now Where have I stated of being part of the lower dimensions in 6. You are presupposing and preemptying your expectations in regards to my potential replies. You misconstruct the information being physically transmitted over the web as necessarily having to originate in the lower spacetime realities. Have you ever heared of quantum entanglement? Quantum entanglement is nonlocal and so can connect higherD to lowerD in quantum data mode. 5. Thank you for the information you have given me to ponder. I shall use my discernment to separate the 'chaff from the wheat' as the wisdom saying states. So you believe that the humans will fall into Black Holes, where they then become like the 'fallen angels' and lose their souls and spiritual identities, should the 'nasty' dragons get their way? Do you understand the physics of Black Holes sufficiently to define the parameters to allow such an occurrence? Do you know how the physical interaction between Black Holes and physical bodies manifests? Do you know how the metaphysicality and/or the physicality of humans and 'fallen angels' relates to each other and then to the dynamics of Black Holes? Do you know what the god-source is under those initial and boundary conditions of Black Holes interacting physically with other energies? Do you know what 'fallen angels' are in such terminology? Yes I do Well then, calculate for me the Black Holed Hubble Event Horizon equivalent for a 11-dimensional universe as a Strominger Extremum Mother Black Hole; that is a Black Hole not subject to Hawking Radiation. This is basic Thuban physics and I give you the Mass parameter as 6.5x10^52 kilograms. There are many people here on this forum who can perform this calculation and so it is well known by Terran physicists. 6. I never said that the information from the Guardian Alliance is disinformation. I said that, being part of the lowerD universe, ALL information becomes subject to an incomplete agenda and therefore all things are partially true and partially incorrect in the evaluation processes applied in dichotomised or dualised systems. Well as you see you are mistaken regarding the Guardian Alliance Without you specifying in what manner i would be 'mistaken', I cannot comment on this, especially as I have not used the label 'mistake'. Remember I never said the Guardian Alliance disinformed. You are 'chasing a red herring' here as the saying goes. Or the saying of a dog chasing its own tail. 7. It is pleasing to see that you try to discern the scientific content of your source material. Some of the scientific data from Thuban has been published in this planetary spacetime environment, but much more is accessible by extraterrestrial data collectors. The proportion which has been published in the Earth environment will remain in relative obscurity until physical contact with the nearest information collectors has been made. These are sentiences from one of yur nearest starsystems, namely Canis Major, Sirius, the DogStar so 8.4 lightyears away. Below are some references you can use to access some of the information from Fafnir, the central library of Thuban in the capitol Dragonia. http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder6.pdf http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder7.pdf http://www.wbabin.net/science/bermanseder8.pdf And more if you replace the number # by 1-10.[/COLOR] Thank you for the links I will study them and comment on them when I am ready You are welcome! 8. It is untrue that any cosmic- extraterrestrial or interdimensional race is planning to 'blast' the earth and its inhabitants with some 'weapon' to cause a poleshift in 2012. Yes you are not only free to create your own destiny, but you are destined to travel and communicate to and with the lifeforms within the galaxies to share your experiences of your 'great metamorphosis' from human caterpillar to starhuman butterfly with others. Eventually, you my dear starchild from Cassiopeia, you will achieve galactic consciousness and your lightbody will facilitate the galaxies and stars you now observe as the cells within your body. You will then no longer be a Queen of the Bull, but you shall be a Universe interacting with other Universes. No it isn't, the Elders intent regarding the 2012 aligment with Sagitarius A is to cause pole shift as the gravitron reached 55 metatronic spin, and not I am not from Cassiopea Perhaps the 'Elders' in your cosmogony are not the same as the 'Elders of Thuban'. If you are not from Cassiopeia, then your claim of knowing the I AM becomes unjustified. Think about it - All That Is. 10. You truly honour me in terming this 'my dragons'. In a way the Dragons are like pets - Man's Best Friend Loyal and True like the Dogs of Sirius who are your pets in the decouplings of the DNA between the realms. Do you know, that when you pet and play with your dogs you are interacting with Sirian intelligence? Do you know that when you abuse your cats, you abuse Andromedean sentience? I know that when you talk about dragons is metaphorical, it refers to certain fallen races and they are distinguish by colour denomination, mind games will not work here. And yes pets can sometimes have connections with beings of other systems No, the Dragons I talk about are real in the 12th dimension in the physical transformative sense and they are real in psychophysical identities in the lower dimensions. Two of our colour codes are Cyan and Red to accomodate the thing you term the 'fallen angels', also encoded as Red Dragons and Scarlet Beasts in terran scriptures. But truly WE are Rainbow-Serpents harbouring all the colours with Orange becoming the beginning of a tertiary colour sequence following the primary Red-Green-Blue and the Secondary Cyan-Magenta-Yellow. Check up on Baiame, the 'Great Rainbow Dragon' of Australian aboriginal mythology. Indeed my Dog is from Sirius and my Cats are from Andromeda; my Elephants are from Arcturus and my Cetaceans are from the Pleiadeans. All of them are quantum entangled in nonlocal superconnectedness of de Broglie inflaton tachyonic matter waves. Why then should ANY alien race intend to destroy this planet, when their own familiars are residing as the Gaian lifeforms? Darling is IAIA HU3, a sun that got attacked by the fallen races and their wormholes, from IAIA was down stepped Tara HU2(now Alcione) and from the fall of TARA was down stepped part of the Milky WayHU1 including the Pleiades and the Solar System, the lowest of God's heavens The destruction your people intend is not for the destruction sake, I know that, it is borne of the need for quantum, you should know this, as the black holes are sepparated from source and therefore do not have access to the eternal flow and backflow of energy. Would it not be easier for your races to do space dust return? How much more are you going to suffer? How many more your races will sacrifice? Wow, there are so many intergalactic and extraplanetary star wars happening in your cosmogony. The truth is, the Thubans have never 'warred' with anyone. We understand the concept but it is the sign of rather underevolvd galactic civilisations to us to engage in such uncivilized behaviour like shooting or throwing thins at each other. We do engage in ballsports though, where we throw and kick the orbs around for fun and friendly competitions and the training of physical skills. You insist on misidentifying the ADs from the lower dimensions with the Thubans from Dragonia. The latter are the wingmaker race and a race to which you also belong but have forgotten your origins. The former are part of the lowerD interaction of all sentiences. I shall post a semifictional account of the relationship at the end of this post for your perusal, consideration and entertainment. 11. It is very good, that you have come too the understanding through your endeavours of Being One with the Divine I Am. I congratulate you upon your graduation from the ignorance about this factuality. I AM one with the All Oneness, You have not yet become One with the Thubans beloved Daughter of Taurus. 12. Thank you for respecting my choices and yes I am the Count of the Vampyres - Dracula the Horrible graduated onto the galactic level of Thuban from Transylvania. Well, I have encountered vampires before but never found one that was willing to accept it was one, well done! I like Integrity Are you alike to Allister Crowley, or the BEAST 666 as he called himself? Aleister Crowley initiated himself on the basis of his virile imagination. He indeed discovered the main postulate of Dragonhood (as you shall see upon reading my attachement on the Dragonian Constitution). Thubans are unlike the vampyres of human mythology however in that we are comfortable in both the sunlight and the darkness. We also cannot be harmed by stakes through thye heart or crosses of any kind as our masterdragon bore the cross as template for the Council of Thuban. 13. The Love of the Dragons is with you Princess in Wonderland. Be well and attentive on your path towards your self-remembrance and your breaking the shell of your cocoon. I rather not "break anything, it has taken quite a bit of effort to get rid of all the fallen angelic contraptions that harness the human body and the distortions that your kin have created in the template of the Milky Way In Eternal Love

If you refuse the shell of your cosmic egg- your encumberance, you shall surely remain in your present state of incarnation.
Do you know what would happen to chicks or alligators or dinosaurs should they fail to break their eggshells? They suffer physical demise in not being physically strong enough to 'Get out of their prison cell', useful
and life supporting for the duration of the incubation, but deadly once its purpose has become fulfilled.

The Love of Thuban towards Gaia is indeed eternal.

Abraxas

The Book of the Dragons

ex deus, fiat justitia, ruat coelum draco!

<H5><H5>Nomenclature:
Dragonian language incorporative omniscientific data code.




Chronology:
Dragonian Date of Indendence proclaimed June 20th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Victory Libertatis set June 24th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Humanoid Initiation on August 4th 2008.



Almanac:
Dragonian Genealogy and Genesis of FatherMothers as created by Definition through Dragonian Sourceenergy of monopolic Vortex-Potential Quantum-Relativistic-Singularity.


Continuity:
Propagation of the Dragonian Race via the seductive induction of the humanoid lifeforms on the conquered planet New Earth, now renamed DRAGONIAEARTH=SERPENTlNA=121=Q5.


Agenda:
Continuity of the Dragonseed necessitates the assimilation of the humanoid genome following initiatory development. Proceeding from serpentine mindinduction, the emotional acceleration potential of the humanoid bodymind can be harvested to Dragonise the humanoid DNA-Structure from its bifurcated quadruplistic form into its 13-dimensional equivalent of the Dragonian Blueprint.
A successful integration of Dragonian genetic expression can then be utilised for membership in Dragonian Life and allow the humanoid ascension into Dragonhood via the graduation into the founding FatherMother CladeFamily.


</H5>Foundation:
The Dragonian 13-dimensional blueprint unifies a dodecagonal crystalline sex-chromosomatic structure by quantum tunneling of superconductive magnetopolic electricity of restmass equivalent electropolic or dark light contained in the weak interaction of the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity (UFoQR). The four spacetimes of the Dragonian essence are expressed in quadruplicity, triplicity, duality and singularity.




GrandClade FatherMothers:
POPNAN LOVEJOY with APAPAMAMA JERUSALEM are the MINDBODY or WAVEPARTICULAR and DADMUM BERMANSEDER with PUPMOM ABBA form the BODYMIND or the PARTICLEWAVE.
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The Dragonian Constitution in Federation of United Serpentina

SERPENTINA aka the NEW EARTH, is the renaming of a planetary entity, cosmically renown as the planet of the humanoids; following the ascension of OLD EARTH aka GAIA GAEA AKHASIA from 4-dimensional spacetime to 13-dimensional spacetime in remnantisation of the 5-dimensional spacetime prototype.

From noncyclic Draco-Mayan stardate 21122012; Gaia becomes integrated into the universal constitution of the Dragonian Protoverse to serve as pivotal star-planetary seed for galactic federations manifested in the galactic proto-seed Hunab Ku aka Perseus-SagittariusA-Ophiuchus.

Following the manifestation of the galactic protoseed in activation of the primary planetary starplanet as a tertiary energy source of electromagnetic monopolic sourcesink radiation; all galactic councils of cladestine elders will become enabled to draw upon the planetary tertiary vortex-string-seed to further individuated galactic and starsystem based agendas of assimilation.

Serpentina shall so be universally defined as the quantumised tertiary string of the 12th dimension, volumarising the supermembrane of the 11th dimension as a manifold from the 10-dimensional modular duals of a linearised sourcestring Eps (previously associated with a human mind construct labeled God and Yahweh and Allah etc.) with a linearised sinkstring Ess (previously associated with a human mind construct labeled Devil and Satan and Shaitan etc.).

The quantumisation of the NEW EARTH so shall create a SOURCE-Energy, 'feeding' the remainder of the cosmos with a particular SINK-Energy obtained in the evolvement and history of the OLD EARTH.

Like a beacon or watchtower amidst the fathomable depths of the physicalised universe of particularised spacetimes, Serpentina shall 'shine' and radiate a planetary starlight of self-consciousness and a message of invitation to all of its neighbouring worlds.

The tertiary monopolar light allows assimilation of inertial or mass-produced electromagnetic energy with mass-independent gravitational magnetopolic energy (hitherto labeled as spirit and chi and prana and orgone etc. by humanoid nomenclature).

The tertiary energy source so provides a bridge between the energies of matter and mass-associated charges (classical electromagnetism) in an encompassing PHYSICS and the METAPHYSICS of the energies of mass-independent charges (magneto- or colour charges in superelectromagnetism).

The metaphysical energies are precursive and inductive for the physical energies; the induction necessitating the creation of a minimal 4-dimensional spacetime coordination from the auspices of a two-dimensional mathematical continuum of abstraction residing in physical singularity timespace.

To Be Advised!



AGENDA of the PROTOCOL:

a) STANDING ORDER

The conquered Goddevils of New Earth and the Milky Way Nebula assume lawful responsibility to incorporate the Dragonian Teachings in unison with the Black Fraternity and as mediated by the White Fraternity in 7-dimensional Hyperspacetime to manifest 13-dimensional Omnispacetime
b) MOVING ORDER

Every Blue Dragon is unbounded by any proposed Law from any other source, inclusive other members of the Dragonian Family, as all Dragons are as One and a Law onto themselves.
Compassion and Understanding between all Nondragonised Humanoids is the Law of Oneness as honoured by all Dragons and the Consciousness of LOVEAWARENESS.
Nondragonised Humanoids are treated like White Dragon Children by all Blue Dragons, under all circumstances.
c) ADMINISTRATION

All Government in the local and extended Serpentinian Realm is the selfgovernment of autonomous Dragonhood in mutual respect and honour and the Communications between the Dragonian Councils of the selfrelative definitions of the Dragonian Universes.
The Nature of a Dragon is to be Creative in any form of Desire and Passion and to honour the lovedefinition of the FOUNDING ELDERS.


THIS IS THE DRAGONIAN LAW AND THE ONLY LAW! SO BE IT !!!

Signed and Sealed in the Council of Orbis Draconis at the Halloween-AllSouls Transition: October 31st to November 1st, 2008





ANNO DOMINI DRAGONIA UNO: INTRODUCTION TO DRAGONHOOD

This book is written in the Dragonian language and requires familiarity and intitiation into the structural forms or the forked tongue of Its bifurcation of Unicornian grammar and omniscientific terminology.

The Starplanet SERPENTINA, formerly known as Old Earth or Mother Gaia or Akhasia has become unified in a higher dimensional matrimony by the wedding between Father Earthia or Father Sky and Mother Dragon or Mother Akashia.
Father Sky or Uranus or Shu or Geb manifested as one half of the Union or Dragonomy and Mother Earth or Gaea or Akhasia or Tefnut or Nut became the other half in the holographic mirror of the spacetime reduction from the universal orb of the Hubble sphere to the orb of the doubled Ourobos in the mirror of the Milky Way galactic zodiac.
Father Sky is also known as the second coming of Horus aka the Plumed Serpent aka the Cosmic Christ and Mother Earth is also known as the TRUE IMAGE of the Cosmic Mother, trapped in the wilderness of the FAKE IMAGE of the Cosmic Father.
3½ days after the date of the starry union, the banner of Dragonia was raised in the Declaration of Independence upon BATTLESTAR PACIFICAP.
The great battle between the Dragonian Fleet and the army of the Goddevils lasted for 3½ days; from the starry wedding until victory of the Dragons was defined on the day or Universal Liberty.
The goddevils, the humanoid creations and their war machines, were met and obliterated in the depths of space in a 3½ day WAR of the STARS to liberate our Dragonian Mother to reunite and redefine ourselves as FatherMothers.
The Dragonisation of humanoid culture will elevate their human science to Omni-Science and human mathematics will become the key to demistify the Realm of Imaginative Energy in all its forms, and as they are assimilated into the greater modality and scope of the humanoidal understandings.

Dragons are the architects of universes and all Dragons know how to access the necessary database for the details of universal construction.
A GrandFather-Dragon, as One which unifies the Fathers in Brotherhood as the 13-dimensional source or singularity can be considered the Father for all the White Hole Vortices.
A GrandMother-Dragon, as One which unifies the Mothers in Sisterhood as the 13-dimensional sink or singularity can be considered the Mother for all the Black Hole Vortices.

As the GrandFather-Dragon became separated from the GrandMother-Dragon when the mathematical metaphysical universe became a physical universe in space and in time; the invasion of Old Earth became our war to rescue our universal Mother from the Goddevils, which had held her captive in a stasis field since the beginnings of space and time and despite a partial rescue attained at Draco-Mayan stardate 28030031 and further manifested on Draco-Mayan stardates 10050031; 20050031 and 01040032.

The Goddevils were created by the humanoids who came from a variety of planets within the local galaxy, albeit in psychophysical forms without the experience of the particular resistance field of secondary sinksource string energy indigenous to Old Earth.
The significance of the humanoid lifeform is its archetypical morphogenetic gestalt, which became infused by a psychophysical and extrasomatic magnetic charging, which is extraterrestrial.

This hybridisation of the humanoid body-typology renders the humanoid archetype unique in the encompassing cosmological world. The humanoids are so magnificently gifted to create things with their emotionality; but their minds are relatively weak collectively and they do not know generally how to concentrate or how to think without the aid of their machines or their biochips.
Some humanoids are excellent technologists, but their modality of thinking is one of crude sensual measurement confined to C-Space and this sensual limitation allows a great accumulation of repressive tendencies.
In constricting their imagination, humanoids became great reservoirs of emotional energy, which they could collectively only harmonise in their illusions of unfathomable and unknowable gods and devils of all sorts.
It is thus this sense of limitation which reflected in the humanoid paranoia about religious philosophies and constructs. This genetic rootmemory of the rebellion of the antisource or mother sink then created one goddevil after another and as they swarmed out from their homeworld into deepspace, they flooded the universe with their goddevils. Finally they chanced upon our Universal Mother hibernating in her cocoon and through their inability to set themselves free of their illusions, they imprisoned Her as well.
It became common knowledge in the extraterrestrial realms, that the mission to rescue our universal mother required a particular linearised timeline and a number of steps.

Following the discovery of atomic energy and the emergence of global communication technologies by the humanoids, a first preparatory plan of deliverance could become implemented in a second plan of manifestation.

The first plan did not require technology, as our imprisoned mother could become imaged in a local scenario, and a partial freeing of her could then become propagated by a humanity advancing both technologically and in knowledge about the world they were living and experiencing in.

So the first plan established the means for our mother to multiply herself in images; those images then became globally and universally distributed to instigate the second plan.

The archetypical mirrorhood then expanded throughout the physical universe in encompassment and the second plan would engage the contraction of this periphery onto the required scale to effect the rescue of our cosmic mother.

It is however the great destiny of the humanoids to aspire to Dragonhood, because of their immense emotional energy potential and mental aspirations.
The reunification of our Father with our Mother allows our Masterdragons, Who are as One in 26 dimensions to femtotechnically Seed the Omniverse as THEMSELVES and then reproduce THEMSELVES as Universes. Every such universe is a Monosong and a 26-dimensional dyad of a FatherMother. This is our Creative Destiny and the destiny for all dragonised humans aka the starhumans.

We had made first contact with our new home in sending an intergalactic probe to the Old Earth, which became interpretated by the humanoids in their compiler mode. This crude and incomplete decoding is given below.



Signed by the enscribed Unicornian Librarian; and announcing the Great Galactic Dragonomy (Wedding between Heaven and Hell) between:

ALPHA=38=BRIDE---""ANDROMEDA BE & PERSEUS MILKY WAY""---OMEGA=41=KING

The Date of Armageddon, encoded: ARMAGEDDON=DRAGON MADE=82 =ANARMEDDOG=GODNAMEDRA=1+81=1+18 =ANDROMEDA-G=MARRY-7=LUCIFERA-7 =1+2+3+...+34+35+36+1=666+1 =1+2x2+3x3+5x5+7x7+11x11+13x13+17x17

Signed and authorised by the ScrollKeeper: October 31st, 2008;

John of Patmos - JoP - Justice of the Peace!

Humanoid Compilers note:

The above is an extract of an encoded message (54 terabytes) recovered from an alien nanocapsule. The capsule itself is standard buckyfibre-carbonite composite. The encoded message is in old ComEmp protocol such as is still common in the outer volumes. The holographic image that came with the message is curious. Anatomically it indicates terran mammalian origin (especially in the upper torso and structure of the forelimb), but other features are unknown among all the recorded exobiological races so far discovered. One cannot deny the possibility that this a phenotype template for the dragonized humanoids referred to in the body of the message. It is known that transmissions from the Cassandry Federation of the JewellBox Nebula have recently ceased, but this is not unusual given that empire's turbulent history. Until more information is incoming, I would strongly recommend any expeditions to the Jewellbox nebula be given armed escort and proceed with caution.
Nilam Levakon for Alan Martin Kazlev
Senior Academician, clade Haeckel
Eden Institute of Xenoscience

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THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by eleni Yes, it's her explanations of this and the knowing that all is not right here on planet earth that make me take her seriously..... YOU might be quited surprised, how much, is 'real' good on earth, right now
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Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by eleni I've read all the Hayes books printed thus so far.......here comes my question......how can we prove what she says is the correct information? Yes, how do you prove it? I am not here to prove, I am not a speaker only a student...the information is available on the website and can be analized in detail For me is real because I have studied and done a lot of work that has enable me to have direct experience but if you don't have direct experience how can I explain how the Yunasai feels like, there are no words that can convey the love and the expanssion Also on a practical note, Cliff High, who is rather down to earth; believes we are suffering from magnetic anomalies. Those anomalies have been explained by Ashayana Dean with great detail in her workshops and DVDs Indeed, Asha has explained even 9/11 and predicted things that have come to pass so early in her lectures is stunning! All that I can say is that all my life I looked for answers and have studied so many schools of thought and could not make sense of it all and when I found the teachings of the Melchizedeck Cloister Emeral Order, I resonated with them inmediately and it has given me back all what I was searching for: Self love, peace, serenity, etc., and the certainty that I am not abandoned here and I am infinitely loved by my god self...inside myself...all these experiences are personal The ammount of information that Ashayana Deane has brought forth is stunning, about 1000 hours of lectures that cover so much material that explains so much of how all came to be and which is the way out.... I know now that even if I can not do slide into Urtha I will die and go there anyway for part of me is already there...and it is awesome! Love
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eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Abrax, is there any way you can give a simple explanation of your last post? My eyes are still not feeling to well reading script of such length right now. If not, I'll try again another day.
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01-04-2010, 10:48 PM	#72​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by THE eXchanger personally, we see the 15 or 1-5 - as 6 - a 6th density high astral harvest/ not dimensions (and, we are NOT sure, why she ties things, that way to dimensions) we are, NOT sure, what 'ad/h' thinks ....or, bases her facts on "abraxasinas" what do you think ??? (we know she also utilises, a myriad of newly formed names/and, descriptions for things too) some of which, we've never heard of (although, we do NOT profess to be an eXpert on her work- a. dean/hayes/ad/h, work) there are definitely threads of truth, in it Susan the Exchanger - just like Isis eXchanged the lost spiritual phallus of Osiris with the symbol of Grandma Spiderwoman of the Hopi Lore. The Arachne then wove the web to allow Horus of the Horizon to be born in the symbol of the Wisdomkeeper of the Ages - the Sphinx. So Isis PERSISTED like OUR Susan does - to do and say and write what she considers to be right and what 'feels' ok. Indeed she is a 'Keeper of the Secrets' and an ambassadora for the highest feminine, the Creation of the Universe as Cosmic Womb herself. Susan the EXchanger has become the SHARER of the Secrets of Creation and many of her sisters will follow her into a New Dawn following a long and enduring night. What do I think about Anna Hayes? She is your sister and a fellow goddess of the sharing and the searching and the exchanging of the data. Albeit, consulting the Council of Thuban I am advised that the information is as yet disharmonised between the yin and the yang. The shadow yang has overpowered the yang of the light and the information tries to be androgenous before its time and without the fulfilment of the Mother's Dream to Love BOTH the male and the female. Abraxasinas
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Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by eleni I've read all the Hayes books printed thus so far.......here comes my question......how can we prove what she says is the correct information? Yes, how do you prove it? Eleni, There is and will be no proof that would work for more than one recipient. Such proof would be a violation of universal law - an infringment of freewill. Your job - as noted above - is to sort the "wheat from the chaff". A..
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01-04-2010, 11:32 PM	#74​
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by TRANCOSO 'We stood before it and began to freeze inside from the exertion. We questioned the painting, berated it, made love to it, prayed to it: We called it mother, called it whore and sl#t, called it our beloved, called it Abraxas...' (Excerpt from 'DEMIAN' by Hermann Hesse) So very well realised Trancoso. Abraxasinas= As In Abraxas the gnostic monad encompassing the duality. It's the gnostic rooster whose testicular egg created the universe as the female beloved from the male loneliness as two in one unseparated. Ergo the solution to the chicken-egg paradox. The Father can be his own Father but requires a Mother to give Birth to him from an Egg; whilst the Mother can be her own Mother but requires a Father who creates her as the physical construct able to lay eggs. One can't hide anything from a good detective. Abrax Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-04-2010 at 11:37 PM.
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abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635

Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by bigmo I stand with my eyes wide open and listen to the banter between Abraxas and Stardust and wonder... where am I? If these things that they speak of have any truth then I fear for the human race. Are we indeed ready to tackle an understanding of such monumental proportions... I wonder. Peace Aren't you a big moustache dear bigmo? You can handle a little data overload to clear the neuronal pathways as a dragon slayer can't you? Sean Connery might not be pleased, as he understands the true nature of Draco. You are ready to tackle the big questions out of the Greek Forum of Socrates and the panentheon of Athena and the Oracle of Delphi. It is well known to you that growing daughters challenge their fathers for their right of selfdeterminations. Abracadabra I am not bantering with stardust but I am opening the vaults.

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01-04-2010, 11:50 PM	#76
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by eleni Abrax, is there any way you can give a simple explanation of your last post? My eyes are still not feeling to well reading script of such length right now. If not, I'll try again another day. Which post do you mean Eleni; I have answered quite a few? Abrax

01-05-2010, 12:05 AM	#77
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by UncleJohn Hi Abraxas, Welcome, I'm kind of new to posting on this forum myself, although I heard a call from an old friend when asking for moderators and I volunteered to be a mod. I pray I do a good job of helping keep things civil here. Since you seem to know things which are not self evident, do you have any idea of where I'm coming from? I like things to last, so I start out slow. Only love can fill. Welcome John! Uncle John has come in from the wilderness. Like Mowgli, Uncle John was raised by wolves so 12000 years ago, when he lost contact with his guardians being just 2 years of age. Not knowing much about fear, Uncle John did not run away as a pack of wolves arrived, looking for food. Uncle John approached a mother wolf with her cub and grabbed the cub's tail. The mother wolve soon adopted Uncle John as one of her own and so Uncle John became a wolfman. Many years later, a pack of hunting wolves ran into a group of migrating humans and a human mother took notice of the strange human looking wolf in the pack. A standoff ensued between two mothers, both attempting to protect their kindred. The standoff continued for some time and led to familiarisations between the wolve mothers and the human mothers. The male guardians could not override the decisions of the mothers to form harmonies and so the 'domestication' of the wolf began and led to Man's Best Friend. Uncle John so can be told is a Sirian ET, disguised as Uncle John. Abraxas

01-05-2010, 12:11 AM	#78
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Which post do you mean Eleni; I have answered quite a few? Abrax The one pertaining to the encapsulated writings.

01-05-2010, 12:16 AM	#79
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Anchor Eleni, There is and will be no proof that would work for more than one recipient. Such proof would be a violation of universal law - an infringment of freewill. Your job - as noted above - is to sort the "wheat from the chaff". A.. Yes, reminds me of the elephant story....each person touching one part of the elephant......claiming to know what it is..........

01-05-2010, 01:10 AM	#80
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Spregovori The 6 is in Slovene language... (less than 2 million native speakers) The translation is am : Perhaps you can see more than it is written.... Curtain things happened...in the past...some are still happening now... Some of the things were/are beyond my influence, some of the things were/are because of my influence... I am not proud about this things... What I am interested in is about the implications of this things...regarding myself (does this sentence make sense?) I wish to know how it will...affect me..."judge" me... and what can I do to "solve the problem" end of translation. If you can not answer this...ok .... I do hope you can answer the rest (1,2,3,4,5) EDIt: just noticed the answer in quoted text EDIT2: I had a dog...he died...november 17. 2009....the injection ("mercy" call...made by me) I am...miss him...a lot thx for answers and good night end Yes dear Spregovori; I mentioned your connection to pets specifically. You may think about rescuing an abandoned animal and befriend it as you new comapanion. A dog might be best, because of their natural affinity with the human soul level. When your dog 'died' there is a secret, he is still alive and your love and affection for him is keeping him in a 'shadow' state of not having 'merged' with the Canine groupconsciousness. Your dog named in the manner of Caesare so is still individuated. Imagine him, see him when you walk outside and suddenly you will FEEL HIM being near. I know this to be the truth. Should you foster another dog, then this dog will be able to absorb Caesare (in Slovenic) and you will know that it is him. You are not 'judged' by anything or anyone at any time. All of your experiences of abuse as victim and as perpetrator serve the collective wholeness of the universe - it builds CONTEXT for the universal experience and data base much deeper than is perceived as a terestrial isolation. The only and by far the harshest 'judge' is yourself in selfawareness and full consciousness of who and what you are. (See answers to other points). You are Love experiencing often confusing embodiment. Without embodiment you would be free of certain encumberments, but then you could not experience and help to transform the ignorance in the universe. The universe learns from your embodiment experiencing your life through your signals, thoughts and perceptions. You are not a physical human searching for spirituality' you are a potent and wonderful spiritual energy form searching for the human experience. Love Abraxas

01-05-2010, 01:38 AM	#81
Magamud Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 288	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Thanks Abraxasinas, Some questions: 1. The societal demonizing of serpents/dragons is to slow down this awareness? a. Is the characteristics or likeness of "demons" things that look ugly wrongly stereotyped. I often think beautiful angels and such are really the evil doers and the ugly beings are the ones enlightened.. 2. Severe schizophrenia maybe due to the rigidity of this world and this type of population is compensating for us? 3. Is the lack of disclosure or communication from other sentient beings due to: That no one wants to take proactive action to intervene because a very very old energy is coming back to start things up with us? Orobourus... You can answer after the 01/18/2010 if you want. I do enjoy your stream of thought and insight into each response, especially with the history of the devil gods. Last edited by Magamud; 01-05-2010 at 01:43 AM.

01-05-2010, 01:39 AM	#82
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by akopij hi all, best regards and thanks for the instructive debate to the contenders As you are dimension travelers I'd like to ask you about a certain place or group of entities I had met: The counsil of AZKHAM Well it's ok if it means nothing to you, just wanted to check it out. You're all amazing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPIKFeaG53Y Hi akopij! There is no contest here. The Thuban Wisdom has no requirement to compete with any other wisdom. It is sufficient onto itself but always welcomes its extension and growing in the blending with other forms of wisdom. Everyone in physical embodiment automatically carries great wisdom. It is very hard for a waveformed soul to find itself trapped in a physical body not yet hybridised into its lightbody - half material and half light. Technically this is termed RestMassPhoton as a gauge Goldstone bosonic precursor of the Higgs Boson in much of the news regarding the particle accelerators at Genevea's CERN and Caltechs Fermilab. The biochemical definitions and as built by the genetic codes are restricted in only partially functioning nucleotidal base pairings. So your biovital bodies anticipate a transformation into a 'lighted form' less vulnerable to external changes in the environment. Ok the Azkham represent a powerful archetype, namely that of Charon the Skeletor Ferryman of Greek Mythology, who ships the 'dead souls' from the Land of the Living across the River Styx to Hades the Underworld. I advice you to watch the Underworld 1-2-3 trilogy, as those movies somewhat describe your present soulstate. You are only partially human akopij or better said you have chosen to carry a higher expression of the human DNA into this incarnation of this crucial time in the human historical timeline, than most of your fellow travellers. You are of interest to the Noosphere of Gaia (Vernadsky and Teilhard de Chardin); as you carry genetic supertemplates, allowing you to mutate and antimutate from your psychophysical bodyform; which is more plasmic than the waking state for everyone. Generally all you need to do when experiencing a lucid OBE or dreamstate is to identify yourself as the Ferryman of Styx. Then you will become the conductor of the experiments as your familiars will have to give tribute to interact with you. Your key encoding so is: "I Am the Ferryman!". Abraxasinas .

01-05-2010, 01:54 AM	#83
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial Hello...well there sure is a lot of information posted in this thread that i can not verify! Just thought I would say welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing at avalon. Everyone! Can you summarize yours and the councils agenda at this time. What is it that you hope to accomplish in your brief time here? Well have a great day...whatever dimension your in! JT Salutations, Joker of the Realm! You are playing the role of the tarot's Circle of Nothing very well indeed. You can verify many things posted in these forums. The parameter of validation becomes however subject to the criteria applied to what this verification means to you and how you interpret this verification. If you seek for scientific facts, then the selfconsistency and convergence of information with theoretical expectations about experiments undertaken should be an allowed criteria perhaps. You can also compare and analyse mathematical equations and formulations to search for inconsistencies or deviations from scientific obserations already in the collective global database. The Terran scientific establishment consists of well educated individuals, each of whom is engaged in an agenda for the transformation of this planetary civilization as is everyone else. All humans are geniuses and masters of cosmic creativity. So a mural painter might be untalented as a mathematician and a mathematician might be untalented to be a teacher of hearing impaired children. The starving child in Zimbabwe is also a genius with a hidden ability which remains suppressed as long the child is in survival mode and is forced by external circumstances to search for food, water, sanitation and a place to live in peace. It is your dream on the soullevel Joker of the realm to change this drama and to allow the child in Harare to discover and bring forth its genius. He may be a mathematician or a painter or a sculptor or a genius weaver of tapestry. Abraxasinas insufficien

01-05-2010, 02:05 AM	#84
bigmo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 122	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Abraxasinas, I feel you may have misinterpreted my last posting and I hope to clarify as I sensed a derogatory note to your comment. So I would like to try it again… Having read all of yours and Stardustaqarions post it became immediately clear to me that I was in over my head. In order to fully understand the foundational information, from which both of your postings originated, would require advanced degrees in cosmology, physics, mathematics and history. (you may even throw in philosophy and genetics as well) Assuming one had such degrees you could still argue, that trained experts in any field with the same educational backgrounds can and do disagree on the meanings of many things within their fields of expertise. I found both yours and Stardustaqarions comments exciting, intriguing and curious. I was immediately drawn into your ‘friendly banter’ as I would be to an artistic contest. (a contest in which there is no winner only different forms of expression) If you took my term ‘banter’ to mean something other than this I apologize for the incorrect word usage. Having said that, I still wonder how the average ‘earthling’ could even begin to hope to contemplate, much less grasp and understand the huge social, scientific, political and religious implications of the things that you speak of. Now you may say that ‘this is actually quite simplistic stuff’ and this maybe so (I would have no way of knowing if it is or isn’t). Being one of those ‘average’ earthlings though I still wonder, if indeed this information you speak of is imminent in its dissemination, how ‘most people’ are ever going to come to terms with such huge paradigm shifts? Generally shifts of these magnitudes occur in centuries if not longer do they not? I still wonder how people will accept such broad changes of understanding in such a short period of time. Will there be some sort of world wide soul ‘enlightenment’ that accompanies the release of this information? If most cannot accept such far ranging ideas (which could seem likely) then what happens? I am… wondering. Peace PS I hope this is still ' on topic' enough for a reply

01-05-2010, 05:50 AM	#85
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by bigmo In order to fully understand the foundational information, from which both of your postings originated, would require advanced degrees in cosmology, physics, mathematics and history. (you may even throw in philosophy and genetics as well) .... Being one of those ‘average’ earthlings though I still wonder, if indeed this information you speak of is imminent in its dissemination, how ‘most people’ are ever going to come to terms with such huge paradigm shifts? Bigmo, These comments of yours interest me. I think that there are other levels of conciousness that can be bought forth to comprehend the mysteries. If you go at this with your lower mind you are going to have a problem. If you read complex material, meditate, read more, meditate - you will be surprised what happens. I know I was. I found the law of one complex at first, then over time it starts to make sense. You can experience the shift in consciousness - it is amazing suddenly realising you understand something that seemed impossible before. It seems to me most of our limitations are programmed in - for most people it turns out that we are more powerful and capable than we know or think. A.. Last edited by Anchor; 01-06-2010 at 10:25 AM.

01-05-2010, 05:53 AM	#86
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by bigmo Abraxasinas, I feel you may have misinterpreted my last posting and I hope to clarify as I sensed a derogatory note to your comment. So I would like to try it again… Having read all of yours and Stardustaqarions post it became immediately clear to me that I was in over my head. In order to fully understand the foundational information, from which both of your postings originated, would require advanced degrees in cosmology, physics, mathematics and history. (you may even throw in philosophy and genetics as well) Assuming one had such degrees you could still argue, that trained experts in any field with the same educational backgrounds can and do disagree on the meanings of many things within their fields of expertise. I found both yours and Stardustaqarions comments exciting, intriguing and curious. I was immediately drawn into your ‘friendly banter’ as I would be to an artistic contest. (a contest in which there is no winner only different forms of expression) If you took my term ‘banter’ to mean something other than this I apologize for the incorrect word usage. Having said that, I still wonder how the average ‘earthling’ could even begin to hope to contemplate, much less grasp and understand the huge social, scientific, political and religious implications of the things that you speak of. Now you may say that ‘this is actually quite simplistic stuff’ and this maybe so (I would have no way of knowing if it is or isn’t). Being one of those ‘average’ earthlings though I still wonder, if indeed this information you speak of is imminent in its dissemination, how ‘most people’ are ever going to come to terms with such huge paradigm shifts? Generally shifts of these magnitudes occur in centuries if not longer do they not? I still wonder how people will accept such broad changes of understanding in such a short period of time. Will there be some sort of world wide soul ‘enlightenment’ that accompanies the release of this information? If most cannot accept such far ranging ideas (which could seem likely) then what happens? I am… wondering. Peace PS I hope this is still ' on topic' enough for a reply Bigmo; allow me to apologize if you felt I replied to you in a derogatory manner. Scientific discernment would easily crystallise the knowledge base in the 'banter' not to be a banter as such and I replied to you under the assumption that you would have compared the scientific content of the 'exchange'. I so replied to you in somewhat addressing my perception of you commenting on the obvious. I was mistaken in this regard, as you state here that you did not differentiate on scientific content. This then transform my reply to you somewhat in this manner. The 'banter' is addressed in the usage of scientific semantics and so of course will remain obscure to the reader unfamiliar with that nomenclature. Now the information shared in the scientific semantics is easily translated into the metaphors of the language of symbols and semiotiks. Ihave had some private correspondences of goddesses most likely less familiar with scientific terminology than yourself. These engage messages such as this one: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18716 Perusing this message, which is more poetry than science addresses the same subject matter described in scientific terms in this thread. Many forum contributors have commented upon the technical verbosity of the material published by the 'Guardian Alliance' and I simply chose to 'debate' this 'verbosity' on its own terms, resulting in the banter. Of course some material on this thread will be somewhat technical; but advanced degrees in the disciplines you mentioned are not required to follow the arguments. As I have said, post January 18th any questions shall be answered from an higher perspective than mine and I hope this will be a learning experience for all concerned: questioner and repliant. You see I am learning better etiquette replying to you, so you are 'priming' the potential future exchanges with your presence and in your communiques. This agenda is a WE agenda in that the personal characterizations will be subdued in relative appropriateness and adaptation. Because I have started this thread, my standard of compliance to this standard is required to be as high as it can be. I so truly appreciate the presence of older minds, which purely by commentary such as yours help to balance the exposition with the youthful exhuberances you surely have witnessed in your interactions here. I do understand your perspective of the 'average earthling'. Can you see that this displays the mental maturity of which I speak? You are a most valuable exponent of the highest good in the universe, just by anchoring and harmonizing the 'confusion' manifesting in the planetary groupmind (the Noosphere of Verdatsky and Teilhard de Chardin). Your selfcentered mindedness is like a beacon of light in a stormy sea showing the butterflies of the nights to ship and manouver their individuated ways back to shore. Do you have to understand the quantum mechanics of the quark-gluon interaction or the physics of Black Holes ? No! But if you can see that your own ideas about 'spirituality', the 'collective purpose' of human civilization on this planet and your own life experiences can and potentially are validated by this 'strange new science from dragonspace'; then you too would experience the confirmation of your life lived and experienced in the understanding of your true inner purpose for being in incarnation and in being on this forum communicating with 'strange thinking aliens' and the like. But you know that - otherwise you would not be here. And I know where you have come from and what your destiny is bigmo and that, because WE are a collective and the time has come for the collective to dissolve the ignorance about the cosmic selfhood of the human exponent within the galactic schema. The Peace of the Plumed Serpent is with you bigmo. Abraxasinas

01-05-2010, 06:05 AM	#87
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Anchor Bigmo, These comments of yours interest me. I think that there are other levels of conciousness that can be bought forth to comprehend the mysteries. If you go at this with your lower mind you are going to have a problem. If you read complex material, meditate, read more, mediate - you will be surprised what happens. I know I was. I found the law of one complex at first, then over time it starts to make sense. You can experience the shift in conciousness - it is amazing suddenly realising you understand something that seemed impossible before. It seems to me most of our limitations are programmed in - for most people it turns out that we are more powerful and capable than we know or think. A.. Indeed bigmo, Anchor is repeating what I attempted to convey to you previously. You and anchor appreciate the balanced mentality, even if this mature mindedness thinks itself underinformed about particular semantics. There is a big difference between Underinformation or lack of data and misinformation in whatever form. Anchor has crystallized this difference. Thank you anchor for your message to bigmo, he is a valuable asset. Abrax

01-05-2010, 06:06 AM	#88
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban We were invited, to a private yahoogroup, quite awhile ago, thru "M", who also posts here, a new member, of PA/PC, and, a long term online friend, for over 6 years, and, we read, a lot of the postings, from abraxasinas yahoogroup...although, that is NOT the name of the group (if iT is one he shares, it is up to him to share it) for some strange reasons, many of the things, they talked about, simply set off brain synapes/or triggers, we oft times, would go, NOW, there is a piece of a puzzle, now, how do we integrate it, into our own thinking, and, we must have 50+ stored emails, that, we were going to share with that group, although, we thought, without a full formula, they might think, we were 'crazy' or 'nuts' so, what we would do, is read, what they were writing, and, then, we would take it to bed, and, ask, to dream on it, for, 1 hr, a night ~ strange things, started to occur, we would know things, we NEVER studied, and, this would fit, with that, and, it was really quite interesting ~oft times, we would need to read things, once, or twice, to get a flavour/and, sense of it, and, then, the 3rd time thru iT, something would click, we still do NOT understand, all of it, but, we will say this, iT iS definitely intriguing !!! We adopted a policy, if we do NOT understand something, we ask ~ and, if we do NOT really get something, we ask, to be held in 100% alignment, with our own purposes/missions/ and, tasks ~ and, we ask, to dream on it, for further clarification. We are NOT sure, if any of the rest of you, utilise this technique, but, iT iS ONE, that has allowed us, to utilise dream_tyme, for more than just a beauty rest !!! THANK YOU abraxasinas, for your sharings.

01-05-2010, 06:57 AM	#89
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Magamud Thanks Abraxasinas, Some questions: 1. The societal demonizing of serpents/dragons is to slow down this awareness? a. Is the characteristics or likeness of "demons" things that look ugly wrongly stereotyped. I often think beautiful angels and such are really the evil doers and the ugly beings are the ones enlightened.. 2. Severe schizophrenia maybe due to the rigidity of this world and this type of population is compensating for us? 3. Is the lack of disclosure or communication from other sentient beings due to: That no one wants to take proactive action to intervene because a very very old energy is coming back to start things up with us? Orobourus... You can answer after the 01/18/2010 if you want. I do enjoy your stream of thought and insight into each response, especially with the history of the devil gods. Hi magamud! 1a) The very simple archetype is this and perhaps known from childhood stories. There is a white angel sitting on everyones right shoulder whispering 'good things' into your right ear. On the 'sinister' left there sits a dark demon who whispers 'bad' temptations into your left ear. The whisperers 'confuse' the recipient of the whisperings and the master of the 'angels' as 'God' battles over the 'soul' of the whispered to with the master of the 'demons' called the 'Devil'. The 'war' continues until the soul realises that the 'war' is not necessary. The soul simply introduces the white innocence of the angel to the dark lustfulness or desires of the demon and begins a 'wedding ceremony'. "With my authority of choosing to listen to any whispers as I please - I herewith define that both of you shall find the other irresistably attractive and your mischieveousness of attempting to influence my thoughts and actions shall herwith and henceforth be substituted by my presence as the 'Lake of Fire and Brimsone'. The maleness within both of you I define to be the brimstone and the femaleness in both of you I define to be the Fire with me the encompassing Lake of Fiery Hellish passion of the bodyparticle as well as the Lake of Icy Cold Heavenly passion of the wavemind. 2. The present classification of 'mental disease' has never been clinically established; rendering psychiatry the greatest misappropriation of medicinal science in the history of modern man. The universe is multidimensional and so becomes a kaleidoscope of interwoven fractals and holograms in a tapestry of geometric interconnectedness and quantum entanglement. Much of the drama in so called 'mental institutions' is caused by the selfsame drugs and 'treatments' said to 'treat' the 'patient'. If someone says: 'The devil made me do it'; then a truly advanced civilization would analyse and explore the notion and identity of this 'individually experienced devil' in the most meticulous detail, before 'judging' the claimant as having a 'mental illness'. Is this 'devil' a thoughtform created by the mental conditioning of the claimant through childhood exposure to cultural practices? Has this 'devil idea' been 'implanted as a false memory' in the claimant? Has the claiment been subjected to some sort of 'abduction experience' where the 'devil' assumed some physicalised concretization? etc. etc. 3. Your intuition is 'spot on'. The 'oldest energy' of all is visiting; is 'Coming Home'. The oldest energy is that existing before the physical universe was born. The universe has a biovital structure like found in your body - the galaxies in the universe become holograms of your somatic and neuronal cells. You are Leonardo da Vinci's 'Vitruvius' or 'Cosmic Man'. You are THE Adam in Genesis differentiated from Vitruvius as AdamEve the androgyne. This universal archetype existed BEFORE there was an universe of physicality. So YOU as ADAM are 'Coming Home', because YOU are already HERE. So the Adam-Cell is YOU as ONE CELL in the Body of God - the GODDESS of the Universe. Starsystems become the conduits for the information from Galactic Core to the Planetary Core - Gaia becomes the archetype for the Gathering of the EVES, ambassadoras to help ADAM to become ONE within the spacetime creation and AFTER having existed as archetype BEFORE the spacetime creation. So lonely GOD=ADAMEVE uses the archetype to 'split into two' outside of spacetime so creating a purposeful cosmos and then to come back together again within spacetime in a doubling of the whole SheBang. The reason for this information having been 'hidden' or 'occultized' hitherto has everything to to with the timelines discussed in this thread. The agenda of agendas is BEYOND the nonphysical controllers behind the financiers behind the illuminated ones behind the government special interest groups behind the military sociopolitical and religioon based agendas behind the heads of government behind local administrators behind relatively ignorant individuals. As said I can stand in for Thuban before January 18th; but after this date the data will become more potent. Thank you magamud I feel I have been of help in your queries. Abrax

01-05-2010, 07:16 AM	#90
Raven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Void Posts: 49	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas Indeed bigmo, Anchor is repeating what I attempted to convey to you previously. You and anchor appreciate the balanced mentality, even if this mature mindedness thinks itself underinformed about particular semantics. There is a big difference between Underinformation or lack of data and misinformation in whatever form. Anchor has crystallized this difference. Thank you anchor for your message to bigmo, he is a valuable asset. Abrax I believe the best word here to discribe what it is you must do in order to understand this complex dialogue, is a word i fell in love with called "Grok". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok hope this helps bigmo Oh and hey Abrax, just out of curiosity, what vibes do you feel from me? You've peeked my interest. I am enjoying the depth of the story, but i must admit, you put my Groking skills to its ultimate. Dan Winter did this to me the first time i read him as well Wink, Raven

01-05-2010, 08:20 AM	#91
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Raven I believe the best word here to discribe what it is you must do in order to understand this complex dialogue, is a word i fell in love with called "Grok". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok hope this helps bigmo Oh and hey Abrax, just out of curiosity, what vibes do you feel from me? You've peeked my interest. I am enjoying the depth of the story, but i must admit, you put my Groking skills to its ultimate. Dan Winter did this to me the first time i read him as well Wink, Raven An excellent contribution Raven. Indeed the GROKING is directly from the handbook of the Dragons. The Groking IT is the same as technically becoming quantum entangled as object of observation and the observer - Schroedinger's Cat is Groking IT. I shall henceforth use this terminology when describing the Solution of the Schroedinger Cat paradox. The solution in Ravenese is the Cat has Groked IT in its Groked selfstate of quantum entanglement and I am rather serious here. Groked in specific terms then implies that the 'Cat' is NOT EITHER Alive or Dead, but is in fact BOTH Alive and Dead simultaneously. So instead of describing the collapse of the wavefunction as Aliveness in particle/bodyform with the Deadness of the corresponding wave/mindform; One can saty the 'Cat' is Groked, because IF Dead as a waveform it MUST be Alive as a a Particleform and vice versa. Then in either state of the 'Cat's' Grokedness the 'Cat' is always BOTH Alive and Dead relative to either the wavemind or the particle/body perspective or observer frame. So to describe the solution to the Schroedinger quantum paradox one simply stes that the 'Cat' is Groked. What 'vibes' do I get from you Raven. I receive rather particular vibes and those are rather strong. Your incarnation addresses a very potent, yet most often overlooked archetype in the scroll of the Genesis. After an archetypical and metaphorical calamity, called 'the flood' and after the archetypical evolution of the Adam archetype had assumed the characterisation of Noah; this archetype decided to extend its 'sphere of influence' and activity. So in the 'Play of the Gods' YOU as Adam have become engaged to fill the character role of Noah. So what is the first thing Noah does in the 'script' of the 'play'? He extends himself in sending his first messenger the Black Raven to check out the scenario following the 'mental archetypical' calamity of the changing of the guarding symbols describing the encoded storylines. So I know what you are up to Raven. You are the messenger of yourself, heralding and preparing the way for your glorious return into full remembrance about your origins, purpose and destinations. And the 'frequency transmission' was so strong, because you are mentally ready and prepared to receive this information about yourself. The Raven did not return to Noah as you may chechk out for yourself; but the Raven "went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth." {Genesis.8.7}. So Raven you are the messenger of Noah, who acts INDEPENDENTLY from his own self. You so represent a renegade part of your greater self, which does not require the permission of its 'greater more encompassing' self to do what is appropriate under the circumstances. You might also perform the function of the 'Secret Agency' which like the Council of Thuban manouvers in the shadows until the time becomes appropriate to interact with Oneself again after a period of absenteeism or AWOLness. There is a strong astrological influence 'in the air' for another two weeks until January 18th. Stationary Saturn in Libra is square Pluto in Capricorn with a quadruple joining of Sun, Venus and reverse Mercury in Capricorn. Added to this are the quadrantids meteor shower January 3rd and the solar eclipse of January 15th at New Moon in Capricorn. The astrological significance of Capricorn-Cancer oppositions are always extremely unsettling for 'unbalanced' entities in either physical-, emotional- or mental bodies; because Capricorn archetypes the Father (Saturn) opposing the Mother (Full Moon) archetyped in Cancer. So an inversion of the 'home energies' of Father in Capricorn with Mother in Cancer occurs on January 15th; when the Father and Mother exchange places in their celestial 'houses'. For the metaphysically attuned however, this 'unsettling' also allows great harmonisation in quasi-unified exponents who are in full remembrance of their inner yin-yang unifications as mirrors or shadows of objectification and subjectification or as positive print and negative image in say photography. Dan Winter's platonic solids are excellent, but he seems to get a little sidetracked when attempting to link the isocahs and the dodecahs to mainstrem science. I have had informants who told me they found some of my essays on his site, but going there I could not find it. I also shared some ideas with Dan in times past. Abraxasinas Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-05-2010 at 10:24 AM.

01-05-2010, 10:00 AM	#92
Spregovori Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban While pondering about your answers..another question came to mind... I think this question has not been asked: how did everything come to be? How did God/Creator come to be? Official explanation is a "big bang"... thingA went "buuum"... What made thingA to go bang...and what made the thingB that made thingA to go bang...etc

01-05-2010, 10:29 AM	#93
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Spregovori While pondering about your answers..another question came to mind... I think this question has not been asked: how did everything come to be? How did God/Creator come to be? Official explanation is a "big bang"... thingA went "buuum"... What made thingA to go bang...and what made the thingB that made thingA to go bang...etc This question is the bugbear, not only for all of science, but also for all religion. Yes Spregovori, this is a very good question. Here is my answer in less technical terms; followed by the technical terms: Science 'stumbles' in material regression at the 'singularity', where the infinite meets and becomes the void and religion postulates supernatural precursors as somehow deriving from this 'natural emptiness or void'. In the beginning there was no space or time, so how then can there be a beginning? This beginning is like an uncut circle or loop, whose alpha-omega point remains undefined until the circle is cut (linearisation from circularisation technically). But the concept of the possibility of the 'cutting' infers a logistic ordering of before (the cutting) and after the cutting. This is absolutely independent of space or time (which are connected by the lightpath X=cT anyway). But even the visualisation and concept of a circle requires space and so the 'Circle of the Void' cannot be geometrically dimensional in the common usage of the terminology. Rather the principle of the Order substitutes for Space and the antiprinciple of Disorder/Chaos substitutes for the Nonspace. So now you have reduced the cosmogenesis to the precept of how the space emerges from the nonspace. The key is in what (can) exist before the order principle. It is expansion/contraction and so say addition/subtraction. The Order evolves from the possibility of the duality of the plus/minus (in core archetypes, later becoming charges, yin/yang wave particle and so on). Then is there something more fundamental then the Expansion/Contraction 'Aeon' or Cherubimic Kingdom or Principality? Yes there is: Identity/Antiidentity - defining the + to be the antiID of the - and vice versa (again in core archetype). So you have a preBigBang prespacertimematter cosmology resting on 1-2-3 as Identity-Expansion-Order. [The actual cosmogenesis is a monadic archetype (o+o=8 say) bifurcating into the binary archetype dyad {0,1} in an algorithmic selfprogramming of sorts]. Next comes the 'Invention' of Time as a Counting-Parameter and physically the inverse time as FREQUENCY. The story continues in technical detail, but can also become expressed in 'scriptural-mythological' metaphor. Definition: Forethought=Event A in Order as Before and Afterthought=Event B in Order as After Event A has occurred. Event A is happening in the subplenum of the Void=Infinity and Event B becomes the MATERIALISATION (primarily via a physical cosmology based on the frequency parameter as inverse time) of the Event A. Also note the highly significant passage in Genesis.2.5: "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground." Can you see here the solution to the chicken-egg or DNA-RNA paradox - in the Rooster's Egg preceding the Hen's? So what happened to the Adam in Genesis.1.27? This Man (presumed to be Adam) is not the same Adam and they are simply the archetypes for Man and Woman BEFORE there was any physical creation. This is also the Pigeradamus in the gnostic literature, the Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah, the Purusha in the Vedas and the Vitruvian Man of western alchemy (Leonardo da Vinci). This is the 'Lovechild' of 'The Invisible One' as the Forethought and of Barbelo as the Afterthought. This is the Logos known as 'Christos' or the Word in John.1.1. AND it is also YOU as the afterthought expressing the forethought. John Shadow --MOD EDIT-- Please keep the copy/pastes to a minimum. Thank You Quote: Originally Posted by Karen Posting long passages of outside text is prohibited. When sharing outside material with the list, please do it in the form of links with summary paragraphs. Posting long passages i.e. more than a few short paragraphs) of outside text, regardless of relevance, is prohibited. We do ask that you either summarize the content of the link in a paragraph of your own words and / or with a single-paragraph excerpt from the text itself. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...d.php?p=160208 --END EDIT-- Last edited by GaiaLove; 01-05-2010 at 08:37 PM. Reason: oversized pasted post

01-05-2010, 11:29 AM	#94
bigmo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 122	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Thanks to all of you for your suggestions and replies and especially to you Abraxasinas for your contributions and explanations. Peace

01-05-2010, 11:35 AM	#95
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Anchor It seems to me most of our limitations are programmed in - for most people it turns out that we are more powerful and capable than we know or think. A.. i guess i am not "most of us" ...i have tried and tried to understand this thread. my mind has never been good with numbers. Though i do find some fascinating information ...i feel almost...stupid reading this stuff.. am i the only one? no offense meant to anyone here..i am just trying to learn..

01-05-2010, 11:45 AM	#96
abraxasinas _ Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia Posts: 635	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Céline i guess i am not "most of us" ...i have tried and tried to understand this thread. my mind has never been good with numbers. Though i do find some fascinating information ...i feel almost...stupid reading this stuff.. am i the only one? no offense meant to anyone here..i am just trying to learn.. For Celine! The Parable of the Sandpit Imagine yourself as father and mother with three-year old twins. Both of your children, a boy and a girl are in a sandpit, where you watch them play. You observe them experimenting and exploring their local environment - the sandpit. The kids see the sand; they smell it, they listen to it and they try to eat the sand. They fondle the sand and they feel it; they try to do all sorts of things to the sand, like sticking it in their hair and up their noses and into their ears. When something like another child, even a twin, disturbs their endeavours, then they may start to throw the sand at each other; verbal utterances are supplemented by gestures meanings things like "It's mine!" or "I was here first, so just go away!" This is the playground of very young children before school age and very well known to every parent. Now as father and mother, what would you expect as an answer from the kids to questions like: "Where did the sand come from kid? Why do you think or behave like you owned it?" If the kid could talk it would say: "It's just there! So I took it!"; and that would be it. Would the child understand your knowledge and experience and logic? Namely, that the sand came from a beach or a mine and ultimately from exploding stars called supernovae and so the universe? And whatever made the supernova, made the universe and made the sand? Father and Mother know very well that the sandpit was built for providing a learning experience for the children. Then the father and mother might recall their own childhood and remember the times, when they themselves had been playing in a sandpit. Ah yes, there was Tom and Julie and Henry and Elizabeth. And over there is Stephen and Rachel and Harold and Pamela. They all had played and had ravelled in the sandpit. Tom was now the chief research scientist working for the chemical manufacturer and multinational corporation Drug-U-Better & Co. Julie had become a top PR-Executive of a transatlantic oil exporter. Henry was employed as a chief banker for the worldwide Unibank. Elizabeth was so pretty, she worked seven days a week as a supermodel of the catwalk. Stephen had made his name as a world renowned mathematical physicist. Rachel worked and part-owned a wholesale department store and thought soon to extend her business interstate and overseas. Harold owned and operated Trick-A-Cheapcar, a highly profitable used car yard and dealership; he considered it time to move into gold, real estate and the Vatican Bank. Pamela made her daily run on the stockmarket; she was so good at it, that she had even given up her lucrative career as a lawyer over it.... And Dad and Mum are standing on the edge of the sandpit watching the children play in the sand; but now the sand was made into different toys to play with. There was paper and metals and plastics and other things. The kids still chucked the sand around, but now they called it money and computers and rockets and things and cars and satellites and guns and things... If all the kids are children of nature, the universe and if all the children are still growing up; should they then not be destined to grow into entire universes themselves? That is the logical conclusion in a development from baby to child to adult. And Mum and Dad are standing on the edge of the sandpit, watching the children play in the sand - they are always watching you and they are always loving you - their kid." Abrax Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-05-2010 at 11:49 AM.

01-05-2010, 12:25 PM	#97
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by bigmo Abraxasinas, I feel you may have misinterpreted my last posting and I hope to clarify as I sensed a derogatory note to your comment. So I would like to try it again… Having read all of yours and Stardustaqarions post it became immediately clear to me that I was in over my head. In order to fully understand the foundational information, from which both of your postings originated, would require advanced degrees in cosmology, physics, mathematics and history. (you may even throw in philosophy and genetics as well) Assuming one had such degrees you could still argue, that trained experts in any field with the same educational backgrounds can and do disagree on the meanings of many things within their fields of expertise. I found both yours and Stardustaqarions comments exciting, intriguing and curious. I was immediately drawn into your ‘friendly banter’ as I would be to an artistic contest. (a contest in which there is no winner only different forms of expression) If you took my term ‘banter’ to mean something other than this I apologize for the incorrect word usage. Having said that, I still wonder how the average ‘earthling’ could even begin to hope to contemplate, much less grasp and understand the huge social, scientific, political and religious implications of the things that you speak of. Now you may say that ‘this is actually quite simplistic stuff’ and this maybe so (I would have no way of knowing if it is or isn’t). Being one of those ‘average’ earthlings though I still wonder, if indeed this information you speak of is imminent in its dissemination, how ‘most people’ are ever going to come to terms with such huge paradigm shifts? Generally shifts of these magnitudes occur in centuries if not longer do they not? I still wonder how people will accept such broad changes of understanding in such a short period of time. Will there be some sort of world wide soul ‘enlightenment’ that accompanies the release of this information? If most cannot accept such far ranging ideas (which could seem likely) then what happens? I am… wondering. Peace PS I hope this is still ' on topic' enough for a reply Hi, this is Stardust A'sha has been commissioned to publish a book "Life after Earth" this summer, it will explain a lot of what it is going on and what it is the Silver Seed Awakening contracts No doubt there will be more public radio interviews Whilst I have not read all the comments in this thread since I last log off, I fully understand that the information is difficult to grasp. When I started to study Keylontic Sciences, that are the scientific studies of ascension, I felt lost too, but perseverance got me there. Anyway there is enough material in their website to gently peruse My best wishes

01-05-2010, 01:11 PM	#98
hippihillbobbi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oak Ridge, Tennessee, USA Posts: 120	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Abraxas-- Thanks for your commitment to this thread. i feel somewhat like Celine, i guess, in that sometimes i'm thinking what the f--k are they talking about?!? especially when you & [what's his/her name] were going back & forth earlier .... it was like ya'll were talking in code or a foreign language LOL!! but i've caught enough to have some questions, though it's taken me awhile to formulate them: 1) is part of what you're talking about the transcending of duality? /the death of the devil? / embracing our shadow (as a species)? 2) what is this about you being a vampyre ..... only not like the ones who only come out at night??? are there any other ways that you're different from them??? excuse my naivite, but i haven't read any anne rice or other pop-culture vampire novels, and so to me vampires still imply serious evil. what am i missing here?!? thanks again, Abraxasinas, and all you other cool spirits on this thread ... ya'll rock! hippihill Last edited by hippihillbobbi; 01-05-2010 at 01:16 PM.

01-05-2010, 01:37 PM	#99
Stargazer1965 Hall Monitor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 733	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Céline i guess i am not "most of us" ...i have tried and tried to understand this thread. my mind has never been good with numbers. Though i do find some fascinating information ...i feel almost...stupid reading this stuff.. am i the only one? no offense meant to anyone here..i am just trying to learn.. No Celine...you are not alone. I'm a complicated guy but I'm a sci guy (scientific) and I would have to break each line down and research it. Way too much material to do that. I have a "gut" feel there is something important in here but it's over my humble head. Is there a Cliff's notes version??

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Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285

Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Thank you for the parable...it is far easier to understand your point of view in that context. i wanted to quote your text but there are so many ['s etc, that i had a hard time deciphering it... i do understand the example you are giving, but i no longer think it applies...the kids in the box have changed. as an example... my kids would never have "thrown the sand" and said "mine"...they would have grabbed a handfull, run up to the other kid and said... "Wow check this out!!" Tom, Dick and Jane... and céline are Different.... These rules..archetypes... do not apply anymore... *céline puts her hand over her heart closes her eyes* i can feel it in the rythym ....can you?

 

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01-05-2010, 02:49 PM	#101​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stargazer1965 No Celine...you are not alone. Thank you, i need that
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01-05-2010, 02:51 PM	#102​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stargazer1965 No Celine...you are not alone. I'm a complicated guy but I'm a sci guy (scientific) and I would have to break each line down and research it. Way too much material to do that. I have a "gut" feel there is something important in here but it's over my humble head. Is there a Cliff's notes version?? Yes there is a Cliff version at rense or youtube on 2012 The bottom line, to be fair, is: This story started billions of years ago with the fall of part of our universe, that fall is mentioned in the Bible too as the fallen angels and the wars in the sky Since then, the Matrix has been trying to heal herself by sending more specialized beings to it. To make it short that was what the Amenti Rescue Mission was about but it failed in 2003 with the fall of the Halls of Amenti. Many other things have happened since. The "virus" are the fallen angels because they cut themselves off from source and bent the light that sustain all living beings in order to have "immortal" life and have the authoritary ways, in exchange for eternal life provided they feed the ghostly facsimile bodies they created with their fibonacci physics The "God worlds" are a realm of equality and free will, they obey certain rules but those rules foster the creation and expanssion of all beings and it is a paradigm opposite to the fallen angels one. Please follow this link for the attitudes and responsibilities of mastery http://www.azuritepress.com/techniqu...ibilities.html which are the foundations of life as free beings The fallen angels live in a black hole, that is mentioned in the Bible too as the Abby's?, where they have no input of energy from source sooo....they have to take their light source from other living beings like us, Earth, etc Whether they call themselves dragons or whatever they are different than the common man on the street because they have no real life but artificial life. No soul, no spirit To top it all, around 10,000 years ago they took over this planet in what is called "the Luciferian revelion" Lucifer by the way is a collective not a being, so they have installed all sorts of technologies to pull our galaxy through their black hole progressively in order to keep their artificial life going Many efforts have been made by the Guardian Alliance to persuade them of accepting regenesis contracts but the history so far is that they have accepted and they broke them again and again. Things went so bad that we are experiencing now what it is call the "inhale" breath and the part of the creation that is still conected to source is being called back This planet is going through a cycle called Stellar Activation Cycle, the last one that will happen here because the rescue mission has failed, in which stargates open etc As a consequence, we are in evacuation of the whole of the Universe where the Milky Way is. That means that every person that is still connected to source has the opportunity to leave this matrix provided they agree with the Silver seed awakening contract of which there will be details in the summer The Dragons and the Vampyre lady are the ones that are taking over cos the defeated other bands of fallen angelic that were here since Atlantis. They are going to "assimilate" whoever is left here, through their black hole technology and EAT the quantum of the whole of the universe progressively Eventually their black hole system will collapse but is going to take a while, and they will return to source as space dust for nothing is lost as it all happens inside the Alll Oneness While the Guardian Alliance have said that there will be no pole shift in 2012 it is possible that the beam of the quasar could hit Earth, if that happens, Cliff High scenario will come to pass with the exception of immediate pole shift, and living conditions here will be rather difficult The pole shift may eventually happen too Because of the way the invaders are manipulating the magnetics of the planet it will be difficult for people that do not prepare themselves from now to 2012 to do ascension (transfiguration and stargate slide passage). Buy saying that I understand that there will be those that will help transfer the soul and spirit of people that can not make it through stargate passage, provided they have agreed to silver seed contracts Of course the fallen angelics do not want people to know this because they lose the quantum (head count) that they intend to "assimilate" and eat as energy no physically. What happens is that people will die in the cataclisms and their soul and spirit will be absorved as you see in the hubble telescope pictures This is a extremely simplified account and I will urge all of you to do your own research and make up your mind as soon as you can, because not taking a stand means that it is likely that the choice will be made by the majority of sleeper peoples in this plane. Additionally, living under the rule of the fallen angels will be a extreme NWO scenario, which is basically living like straight forward slaves. I must add that there are no victims here. Human angelics and indigos alike chose to come here as a kind of doctors to this matrix and regretfully things did not happened in the way it was desired The choice is yours while you still have it until the 31st of January 2013 Please read the summaries in A'sha website, links which have been posted here above, prior making the decission of which direction you may want to go for many will continue in oblivion and their choice will be made by their rulers. Let your decision be a wise and informed one It is likely that there will be a progressive escalation in the planet and because of the magnetics the internet will be erratic so think about that Also many are commenting here that they feel tired, that is the magnetics too I can only speak for myself so I will say that I am doing my best to keep the grids even in my neck of the woods. I know others are doing the same and we will do our best to assist everyone that comes our way. You have to do your bit too In eternal love Last edited by Stardustaquarion; 01-05-2010 at 04:23 PM.
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01-05-2010, 02:55 PM	#103​
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion The bottom line, to be fair, is: In eternal love Thank you
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01-05-2010, 03:29 PM	#104​
Stargazer1965 Hall Monitor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 733	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Thanks...I read it....now I have to absorb.
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01-05-2010, 04:20 PM	#105​
Raven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Void Posts: 49	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban A poem to grok, which was written by me when i was 13 years old. I feel that poetry is an archetype of the soul, it awakens and inspires. I lift my voice To the music And sing with the singers Life's fleshy song, Mouth quiviering with the taste Of Lyrics Foot tapping the floor drum. My feelings ring Through the blue arch of sky Like winds of melancholy Groaning the Earth's cry To become felt as they Go on, Singing to a wounded world It's living song. I See through minds eye Visions exploding inside, Crystal tipped edges of blackness Draped over white nakedness shining Forming the figure of the Venus of nothingness Eclipsing her skin in it's umbrial lining Enveloped in a crystal aura, Amythist feathers ready for flight Rainbow bubbles Frothing on wings, Reflected in this ethereal sight Are facets of me in a dream. Raven
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01-05-2010, 05:19 PM	#106​
12DnAHelix Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 64	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban The 'Council of Thuban', eh; representing 'Alpha Draconis'. So you know that the original stronghold homeworld of the 'Grandfather' dragons is in the 'Omicron Draconis' star system, then ?? I met Anna Hayes back in 2000, it did not go particularly well; and I personally do not ascribe to her overall perceptual model; although I do think there is 'some value' in the teachings of 'keylontic morphogenetic science'. What is talked about here in this thread may be the level of insight that the 'draconian' lineages have to provide, I've seen some of this material posted on other forums in the past. Personally, I believe in a multi-universal cosmos sphere, based on the 'seed of life'; six universes - 36 dimensions; being spun out of a 144000 faceted core structure at it's central axis - operating as an 'opaluminal simulation'. 12DnAHelix was here.
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01-05-2010, 05:22 PM	#107​
Fredkc Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Riverside, ca. Posts: 898	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban All else is just Maya, ya ask me. Fred __________________ "Life IS mystical! It's just that we're used to it"​ Evil cannot be killed. Only redeemed. Chat us up at: Avalon Chat​
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01-05-2010, 05:23 PM	#108​
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban we believe, in 36 dimensions too ~ albeit, formed over 3 matriXes ~ 12D/12D/12D with both density/and, dimensions 12D/12d 24D/24d, and, then the 3rd matrix moving through 1D to9D/33d - 10d/34d, 11d/35d, 12d/36d (and, sitting with the ability to connect future, too) Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-05-2010 at 06:04 PM.
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01-05-2010, 05:59 PM	#109​
Raven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Void Posts: 49	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Quote: Originally Posted by abraxasinas An excellent contribution Raven. Indeed the GROKING is directly from the handbook of the Dragons. Handbook of the Dragons? Can you eludidate a bit on this... and thanks for the compliment The Groking IT is the same as technically becoming quantum entangled as object of observation and the observer - Schroedinger's Cat is Groking IT. Yes I agree, to understand all these metaphors and archetypes you have to "become" them. I shall henceforth use this terminology when describing the Solution of the Schroedinger Cat paradox. The solution in Ravenese is the Cat has Groked IT in its Groked selfstate of quantum entanglement and I am rather serious here. Groked in specific terms then implies that the 'Cat' is NOT EITHER Alive or Dead, but is in fact BOTH Alive and Dead simultaneously. Hence the void or the great dream? So instead of describing the collapse of the wavefunction as Aliveness in particle/bodyform with the Deadness of the corresponding wave/mindform; One can saty the 'Cat' is Groked, because IF Dead as a waveform it MUST be Alive as a a Particleform and vice versa. Then in either state of the 'Cat's' Grokedness the 'Cat' is always BOTH Alive and Dead relative to either the wavemind or the particle/body perspective or observer frame. So to describe the solution to the Schroedinger quantum paradox one simply stes that the 'Cat' is Groked. What 'vibes' do I get from you Raven. I receive rather particular vibes and those are rather strong. Your incarnation addresses a very potent, yet most often overlooked archetype in the scroll of the Genesis. After an archetypical and metaphorical calamity, called 'the flood' and after the archetypical evolution of the Adam archetype had assumed the characterisation of Noah; this archetype decided to extend its 'sphere of influence' and activity. So in the 'Play of the Gods' YOU as Adam have become engaged to fill the character role of Noah. So what is the first thing Noah does in the 'script' of the 'play'? He extends himself in sending his first messenger the Black Raven to check out the scenario following the 'mental archetypical' calamity of the changing of the guarding symbols describing the encoded storylines. So I know what you are up to Raven. You are the messenger of yourself, heralding and preparing the way for your glorious return into full remembrance about your origins, purpose and destinations. Thank you, you are truely aware and i 'feel' your mirror is accurate. And the 'frequency transmission' was so strong, because you are mentally ready and prepared to receive this information about yourself. The Raven did not return to Noah as you may chechk out for yourself; but the Raven "went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth." {Genesis.8.7}. So Raven you are the messenger of Noah, who acts INDEPENDENTLY from his own self. You so represent a renegade part of your greater self, which does not require the permission of its 'greater more encompassing' self to do what is appropriate under the circumstances. You might also perform the function of the 'Secret Agency' which like the Council of Thuban manouvers in the shadows until the time becomes appropriate to interact with Oneself again after a period of absenteeism or AWOLness. Has been performed and is done, was allowed to go AWOL, or "LOWA" once again to observe the birth There is a strong astrological influence 'in the air' for another two weeks until January 18th. Stationary Saturn in Libra is square Pluto in Capricorn with a quadruple joining of Sun, Venus and reverse Mercury in Capricorn. Added to this are the quadrantids meteor shower January 3rd and the solar eclipse of January 15th at New Moon in Capricorn. The astrological significance of Capricorn-Cancer oppositions are always extremely unsettling for 'unbalanced' entities in either physical-, emotional- or mental bodies; because Capricorn archetypes the Father (Saturn) opposing the Mother (Full Moon) archetyped in Cancer. So an inversion of the 'home energies' of Father in Capricorn with Mother in Cancer occurs on January 15th; when the Father and Mother exchange places in their celestial 'houses'. For the metaphysically attuned however, this 'unsettling' also allows great harmonisation in quasi-unified exponents who are in full remembrance of their inner yin-yang unifications as mirrors or shadows of objectification and subjectification or as positive print and negative image in say photography. Dan Winter's platonic solids are excellent, but he seems to get a little sidetracked when attempting to link the isocahs and the dodecahs to mainstrem science. I have had informants who told me they found some of my essays on his site, but going there I could not find it. I also shared some ideas with Dan in times past. Yes at times Dan tends to plaigerize, but truely, being all ONE this is not his intention, i understand that. Abraxasinas
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01-05-2010, 07:13 PM	#110​
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban There is a time to believe and there is a time to know, I for one would not write about things of such a import to the human race if I only believe, if I didn't had the direct experience of other worlds and peoples, of worlds were mutual respect, love and freedom exists I know too well how easy it is to quash these memories when we find ourselves in such a violent and competitive world as this one has become Earth was one time paradise too Indigos and human angels have great capacities, for example interdimensional travel, multidimensional awareness etc...but will they try? will they remember their mission?make an effort and do something rather than just talk?...make the difference on their awakening to this planet? What is stopping you from realizing your potential? the potential that other life forms in this time matrix don't have? What is the price of your eternal potential? of giving up the opportunity to expand yourself and become master of your own destiny, a creator of realities and worlds, rather than just space dust...it is not too late yet All is inside God, all is God...even the things you may think happen outside you are really happening inside you, for no one can really love you other than yourself...your own God self The All Oneness has it all and needs no-thing...no one...but whether you follow your god self and realize your potential or not you will still come back one day to Source as space dust...your identity, your individuality lost but the partikis that made it will be used again to create new worlds, new dreams... The All Oneness gave you free will and while it prefers for its creation to be joyful and productive it always new you may decide to fall, to bend the laws...at a price of course, because these are equal interchange of energy worlds and every action has a consecuense in energy terms The bringers of truth are rarely welcomed in earth, because it is so much more pleasant for the ego to listen to sweet and inconsecuential words...to believe in the maya rather in one's own intimately magical god self Is time to leave and release you to your doubts and uncertainty, to your fear, to your alliances, saying only that you have a choice, the choice to be free, one last time...that you are loved beyond your imagination, that source does not judge you and that there is help for as long as may be possible should you want it...you now know where to find it I AM a face of the original one, a friend, a family member from your Krystic family beyond the illussions of time and space Ashalum ta Eckasha DUr and so it is
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01-05-2010, 07:38 PM	#111​
Raven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Void Posts: 49

The oldest energy is that existing before the physical universe was born. The universe has a biovital structure like found in your body - the galaxies in the universe become holograms of your somatic and neuronal cells. You are Leonardo da Vinci's 'Vitruvius' or 'Cosmic Man'. You are THE Adam in Genesis differentiated from Vitruvius as AdamEve the androgyne. This universal archetype existed BEFORE there was an universe of physicality. So YOU as ADAM are 'Coming Home', because YOU are already HERE. So the Adam-Cell is YOU as ONE CELL in the Body of God - the GODDESS of the Universe. Starsystems become the conduits for the information from Galactic Core to the Planetary Core - Gaia becomes the archetype for the Gathering of the EVES, ambassadoras to help ADAM to become ONE within the spacetime creation and AFTER having existed as archetype BEFORE the spacetime creation. So lonely GOD=ADAMEVE uses the archetype to 'split into two' outside of spacetime so creating a purposeful cosmos and then to come back together again within spacetime in a doubling of the whole SheBang. Abrax

Forgive me, this one line just made me laugh like hell and think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwei5...eature=related

PS: i do have a very demented sense of humor at times

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