Schwenger - Holocaust Victims

SS Salier Bremen, Germany to New York 1882
This is the boat that Heinz Schweiger
(had a sister named Minnie Schweiger) not schwenger
& CH aka CHAS or Karl or Carl Heinrich Schwenger
aka Charles Henry Schwenger (our great grandfather)
travel to NYC from Germany in 1882,
He was 19, and, heinz was 22
Details Here:
SS Salier Bremen,
Germany to New York
8 July 1882
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
120 Carl (CHAS) Schwenger 19 m none Germany U.S.A.
Steerage
181 Heinz Schweiger * 22 m ????? Germany U.S.A.
Steerage)
http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/salier18820708_01.html

 

Adventures to Canada
for my great grandfather,
who created the 1st Hotel in Hamilton, Ontario in Canada
(in 1899- he would have been approx 37 years old)
he came on:
SS Salier Bremen, Germany to New York 1882
CH aka CHAS or Karl or Carl Heinrich Schwenger
aka Charles Henry Schwenger (our great grandfather)
travel to NYC from Germany in 1882,
He was 19
Details Here:
SS Salier Bremen,
Germany to New York
8 July 1882
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
120 Carl (CHAS) Schwenger 19 m none Germany U.S.A.
Steerage
181 Heinz Schweiger * 22 m ????? Germany U.S.A.
Steerage)
http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/salier18820708_01.html
Approx 1899
Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple (baby in mothers arm)
- born 1898 (approx 1.5 years old)
Albert Heinrich Schwenger (beside his mother)
- born 1894 (approx 5 years old)

This is the absolute corrrect version on 12 aug 2022
left to right
1 Great Grandfather Karl or Carl Necker
2 Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker-Schwenger
from Waldenbuch, near Stuttgart, Germany.
3 Baby in Arms - Bert aka Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple
4 Albert Heinrich aka Albert Henry Schwenger my youngest brother
5 Unknown Man in doorway
6 small body behind post - Judge William Frederick Schwenger later Judge Schwenger
7 Unknown Man in doorway
8 man in white apron..my uncle August George Gotthilf Fredrick Friedrich Necker, mother's brother. He was our bartender
9 man in grey hat behind Carl my father, Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger proprietor
10 karl aka Carl Edward Schwenger aka Charles (aka karl) edward schwenger, became chief engineer of Toronto Hydro
11 dog foxterrier.. Bob, a great ratter
men
12 unknown
13 unknown
14 unknown
all are unknown

THE HAMILTON LIBRARY advised that Bertha Louise Temple
donated pictures of The Schwenger Hotelfamily genelogy was on the back of it
it said; that 'katherine rosine aka 'barbara' necker* (nicker) had a father visiting
the bartender of "the Chas schwenger hotel' was her brother,
known, as "August Necker" which surfaced 2 records (see below)
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/went00.htm
record # 1
#017575-00 : Ernest MAIER, 29, butcher, Germany, Hamilton, s/o Fred MAIER & A. FRUGERLAND, married Maulda SCHULER, 18, Detroit Mich., Hamilton, d/o George SCHULER & Bertha SCHORHENEDE (?), witnesses were August NECKER & Minnie HAY or HAP, both of Hamilton, 4 Sep 1900, at Hamilton
record # 2
#017502-00 - August NECKER, 23, tinsmith, Germany, Hamilton, s/o *Carl NECKER & Rosina ECKHARDT, married Louisa DUNEMANN, 22, Canada, Hamilton, d/o Heinrich DUNEMANN & Elizabeth HEINBUCH, witn: Carl HAMAN & Clara DRUMM, both of Hamilton, 29 Sept 1900 at Hamilton (Lutheran)
*the mother of katherine rosine aka barbara necker - schwenger was Rosina Eckhardt
and, her husband: was grosvater /grossvater / Großvater = Grandfather Karl or Carl Necker
The Schwenger hotel was on the west side of McNab Street North…at 41 McNab Street North
across from the old Market Square.
The Connaught Hotel was built after the Waldorf was demolished.
Prior to the Royal Connaught, it was the Waldorf Hotel that was located on the south side of King Street East, between John and Catharine. I have attached an image, taken in 1899 by Charles S Cochran. The Waldorf was opened in 1898 and demolished in
1914.
I will forward a list of names from the back of the Schwenger Hotel picture…
I received it from the donor of the picture.
These names were provided by the donor’s mother (Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger)- Temple in 1973.
left to right (by Bertha Temple 1973)
1 elderly man..could be grosvater Grandfather Karl or Carl Necker who was in Canada about that time.
(Karl Christian Necker)
he was father of Mrs Chas Schwenger (my mother) Katherine Rosine Necker - Schwenger
from Waldenbuch, near Stuttgart, Germany.
2 baby in arms.. myself Bert aka Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple
later married to Alex N. Temple (their son, was Finlay aka Finn Temple)
3 lady in doorway..my mother Mrs. Chas Schwenger wife of proprietor = Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker-Schwenger
4 small boy.. Albert Heinrich aka Albert Henry Schwenger my youngest brother
5 UNKNOWN
6 small boy behind post.. Judge William Frederick Schwenger later Judge Schwenger
7 unknown
8 man in white apron..my uncle August George Gotthilf Fredrick Friedrich Necker, mother's brother. He was our bartender
9 man in grey hat behind Carl my father, Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger proprietor
10 boy next to bartender / Carl Edward Schwenger, became chief engineer of Toronto Hydro (STANDS in front of his dad #9)
11 dog foxterrier.. Bob, a great ratter
men 12, 13, 14 = NOT known
and, the picture is missing a family member
Catherine(Kate) Marie Schwenger... (who was a single lady)
others in picture unknown to me
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(links to photograph in next posting
Susan Lynne Schwenger February 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Got some photographs of the Schwenger Hotel
(don't know where to upload them too)
Details of Hotel & Photograph
The Schwenger Hotel stood is now part of Gage Park in Hamilton.
For many years apparently, the name of the hotel was still seen on the sidewalk
where the name had been engraved into the sidewalk.
A number of years ago, however they replaced the sidewalk and the slab
with the name was removed.
I’ve no idea if it was saved for the local historical museum
or was just broken up and thrown away.
(story told by Kathryn Schwenger - great great grandaughter, daughter of Wallace Schwenger)
properly tagged as to who is who on:
Geni - Photos in Photos of Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger
https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=photos_of_me&id=6000...

 

Judge William Frederick Schwenger,
Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker - Schwenger, (mother)
Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple,
Charles (Karl) Edward Schwenger,
CH aka CHAS - Carl Heinrich or Karl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger, (father)
Kate or Katrina Marie Schwenger,
Albert Heinrich Schwenger

DETAILS OF GREAT GRANDPARENTS
Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger

German: Karl Heinrich

Gender:	Male
Birth:	March 15, 1863 Stuttgart, Stuttgart, BW, Germany
Death:	August 14, 1929 (66) Hamilton, Hamilton Division, ON, Canada (Cirrossis of the Liver)
Place of Burial:	Hamilton Cemetery, Hamilton, Hamilton Division, ON, Canada
Immediate Family:	Son of {unknown father of Charles Henry Schwenger} and Maria Sophia Schwenger - Hetzinger Husband of Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker - Schwenger Father of Charles (Karl) Edward Schwenger; Kate or Katrina Marie Schwenger; Judge William Frederick Schwenger; Albert Heinrich Schwenger and Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple Half brother of Fritz Johannes Hezinger - Schwenger

 

Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker - Schwenger (Necker)

Gender:	Female
Birth:	May 04, 1862 Waldenbuch, Stuttgart, BW, Germany
Death:	October 04, 1946 (84) Burlington, Regional Municipality of Halton, ON, Canada
Immediate Family:	Daughter of Karl Christian Necker and Rosina Katherina or Rosine Katherine Eckhardt - Necker Wife of CHAS AKA CH AKA KARL / Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger Mother of Charles (Karl) Edward Schwenger; Kate or Katrina Marie Schwenger; Judge William Frederick Schwenger; Albert Heinrich Schwenger and Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple Sister of Wilhelm Friedrich Necker; Karl Christian Necker; Wilhelm Friedrich Necker; Johanna Karolina Necker; Karolina Paulina Durst; AUGUST George GOTTHILF Fredrick FRIEDRICH NECKER* and (lots OF WAYS found for spelling) Maria Rosina Necker

 

Karl Christian Necker (FATHER)
Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker - Schwenger (mother)
and, BERT AKA Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple (daughter)

 

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1) Great Grandfather Karl or Carl Necker
2)Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker-Schwenger from Waldenbuch, near Stuttgart, Germany
3) Baby in Arms - Bert aka Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple
4) Albert Heinrich aka Albert Henry Schwenger my youngest brother
5) Unknown Man in doorway
6) small body behind post - Judge William Frederick Schwenger later Judge Schwenger
7) Unknown Man in doorway
8) man in white apron..my uncle August George Gotthilf Fredrick Friedrich Necker, mother's brother. He was our bartender
9) man in grey hat behind Carl my father, CHAS SCHWENGER AKA Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger proprietor
10) karl aka Carl Edward Schwenger aka Charles (aka karl) edward schwenger, became chief engineer of Toronto Hydro
11) dog foxterrier.. Bob, a great ratter
12) unknown
13) unknown
14) unknown


This is the absolute corrrect version on 12 aug 2022
left to right
1 Great Grandfather Karl or Carl Necker
2 Barbary aka Katherine Barbara Rosine Necker-Schwenger
from Waldenbuch, near Stuttgart, Germany.
3 Baby in Arms - Bert aka Bertha Louise Rosine Schwenger - Temple
4 Albert Heinrich aka Albert Henry Schwenger my youngest brother
5 Unknown Man in doorway
6 small body behind post - Judge William Frederick Schwenger later Judge Schwenger
7 Unknown Man in doorway
8 man in white apron..my uncle August George Gotthilf Fredrick Friedrich Necker, mother's brother. He was our bartender
9 man in grey hat behind Carl my father, Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger proprietor
10 karl aka Carl Edward Schwenger aka Charles (aka karl) edward schwenger, became chief engineer of Toronto Hydro
11 dog foxterrier.. Bob, a great ratter
men
12 unknown
13 unknown
14 unknown
all are unknown