My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

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BB,

SuiGeneris Today at 3:48 am

B.B.Baghor wrote:​

The magic that began to unfold from then on is a great surprise and very welcome, for things began to unfold in a way that was beneficial to my being and my life in all aspects. I began to create my reality based on that new attitude. If I'm right, I tend to see the step that Sui Generis takes, the liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult, as chosen in a similar stance or calibre. Regarding the cutting of strings and attachments, although it's an understandable action, it usually isn't effective on the long run. Naturally, the effect is relative to the strength of the string or contract. When it concerns a one time event, it's relatively easy to let go, although the impact of it can be very strong. When it concerns a long connection with a person, or a group, also through more than 1 lifetime, it's often a more complex attachment.​

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I will tell you my approach.

Just for a bit of context. Ever since i was little, i always felt that whenever i refused something, that something i was refusing somehow 'won' over me. Later on, as i was growing up, my grandmother and my uncle would point out to me different instances when i was refusing just so that i would become aware of how i was doing it so i would learn to refuse consciously. As a child, younger than seven, i had no idea why i was refusing...i simply knew i did not want something. As a child, older than seven, i began to become aware of why i was refusing...after that fact was being made aware to me over time. The reason i was being made to pay attention to my refusals was so that i would realize the reason why i would refuse something, and to see the reason for that was in me and not in the thing i was refusing. I began to see that more clearly when i turned fourteen and i could actually see this in practice with my friends at school. By then i knew, refusal is not integration; and by me refusing something is a way of admitting defeat and indirectly adjudicating power to that something that i was unable to merge into me. So then i learned to refuse but on my own terms, and those terms usually implied that i had to be able to go beyond that something first, to win over it, to dissect it, or know it deeply first...so that only then i would be able to 'leave it be' in a way that i would be satisfied. All of this was self imposed by me onto me, and i must say it made my childhood exceedingly interesting and fun. I would engage in mental power games with my closest friends to see who would have better control of 'the force' with unsuspecting others, never in a cruel or harming way but in an innocent way just to practice self control. I would constantly find different ways to experiment, i would put myself in different situations on purpose just to see how well i could adapt to the new impending situation and then to its consequence again and so on...day in and day out...that was my very own mental playing field in between my songs, dresses and boyfriends.

Therefore, my liberation from the Thuban Sex cult did not come as a result of me refusing Thuban. I did not turn my back on it for a second. I still don't and i never will. I withdrew my presence from Thuban facing Tony and stepping backwards. I face him even still. It is not that I "couldn't handle it", or that I "didn't get it", or whatever else TR & company decide to imagine. Not at all. Tony did not "kick me out" either. The decision to leave came as a result of me having already gone all the way in and integrated all the little things i needed to integrate into me regarding the issues that interested me of it in the first place, which was namely Sexual Integration in Core dynamics. Those little things are sensations and notions nothing more. I did not need much, but what little i needed was found at the very bottom of the hole.
You could say i precipitated my exit by confronting TR but i never expected to actually win any argument...as perhaps Spregovori was thinking at one point. And so, i left on my own terms at my own pace and ultimately on my own time, because after years and years of charts and timelines and endless theories, I was the only one along with Rok who was willing to put Thuban to the test and I decided to experiment and test it out actually doing this bridging between two worlds...specially after Tony said the Logos requires actual physical contact for the sexual hexacore to work. Rok and I met twice over the course of three years. I risked everything in order to give Thuban a chance to work on 3D. I walked the talk and even went over and beyond what was humanly possible in order not to lose myself in the process. So no, i did not "refuse" Thuban. No one can ever say that i refused Thuban. That is not refusing. That is taking it all in. That is being Thuban in the flesh. And after having being there and done that...and after seeing that Core Integration simply does not work as it is being filtered by the facilitator, i decided to do it my own way and the way i always knew how. Reason why the time is ripe for me to do it now because i am still not done testing myself and the Shakti wants to dance without any outside intrusion.

B.B.Baghor wrote:​

I've learned a thing or two in how those actions or attitudes of others, which cause me to feel hooked, hurt and abandoned, find their way into my energy-system, due to unclear or missing boundaries. We speak here of autonomy and awareness of what happens in one's energetic playground and about discernment of what's owned as one's own and what's entering as energy of others. In the trainings of intuitive development, that's called "Dealing a blow to a person's 3rd chakra" it's a forceful attempt to bend another person's personal will. By projecting one's own. See what I mean? It makes little difference if this happens in the 3D world, or in the virtual world. Although a physical presence may offer an acuteness of sensation, when expressed also a chance to discuss.... what on Earth.....? is happening.
Often participants in such an experience, are unaware of those kind of energetic acrobatics. Most of us don't receive an education on that sort of things, do we?​

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Indeed, but the ones who do, know their responsibility and they don't bear that burden lightly.

B.B.Baghor wrote:​

Fill up any empty space in your energy-system that you find present. Drink water and eat something as a treat.​

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The empty space inside is an illusion, in the sense that no one should ever go and seek...to fill. From the soul's perspective the hurt is real, the disappointments, the feelings are real and when you perceive you lose something or when you think you lack you go and seek to fill. But in truth there is nothing to fill. When you look at yourself from the Spirit's perspective you know you are already whole.

B.B.Baghor wrote:​

Take your time to let go of tears or laughter, both forms of healing and clearing. Eat something. Become familiar with having ended the contract and get settled, adjusting your physical body and energy-system to the new situation and new experience of your-self. You may find a need for much sleep, swimming, quietude and silence, your presence in nature. Allow yourself a rest of 3 days, if possible. At least, be gentle with yourself for some time, while adjusting to a greater sense of freedom.​

I like this advise and i agree. people should be more conscious and kinder to themselves. Love themselves properly.


Xeia ​

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SuiGeneris Today at 3:53 am

Sanicle wrote:​

Brilliant post Xeia. ​

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ThanX Sanicle! hehe


big hug,


Xeia ​

 

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Dear DD,

SuiGeneris Today at 4:29 am
Aquaries1111 wrote:
Spregovori wrote:
Look, a cupcake, have a taste. You like that, yes? Now, let me serve you some icing...dab slowly, feel the taste in your mouth...swallow.

Here a portal i open for you, now if you dare...go on...step through.



Come on... let's step through.

Hi koR


This is interesting...

Is this koR as "Core"? or is it just you wanting to play the trickster again?

Lookie here Rok, seems Debra couldn't forget what she saw in Cancun ...how cute


Oh and speaking of tricksters...


Carol wrote:

Sui, I truly appreciate your courage in all of this and sharing your story as this has cleared up quite a few questions I've had regarding Tony's relationship with the dragons. Pretty much anyone can learn how to go into an altered state of consciousness and channel some type of entity from another dimension.. and subsequently become self-delusional believing everything that is channeled. One just needs to keep in mind the TRICKSTER element in these types of communications.


Debra was the trickster, and apparently she misses that role.

Tony on the other hand was never a trickster.
Rejecting the female, rejecting the Spirit, he has become like a corrupted Brahman...an archetypical Archon.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons02.htm


Xeia

 

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orthodoxymoron Today at 10:45 am
I once encountered an interesting COR aka (a name similar to David Bowman (from 2001: A Space Odyssey). That's all I'm going to say about that. A strange and interesting woman named TREEE once spoke of Dragons dying while spying on the "Real Jesus"!! She claimed that Queen Elizabeth was shocked at the identity of the "Real Jesus". She claimed that the "Real Jesus" was living in substandard conditions. I posted a lot of TREEE Videos a few years ago. Interestingly, I noticed that the male Ancient Egyptian Deity I encountered had a tattoo in the same location as TREEE!! When I mentioned this, they replied, "You've got me all figured out, don't you??" TREEE once sent me the email addresses of 50 top NASA personnel (which I never used, and no longer have). Then, in Guardians of the Galaxy, there was that character named GROOT (which is sort of like TREEE)!! Is this simply a coincidence?? TREEE was this former prostitute, meth-head, Hell's Angels Babe, Bohemian Grove Attendee (unofficial, I think), and close to a Master-Mason, and correspondent with Queen Elizabeth (as the story goes)!! I think I've encountered different individuals who were the same soul. Different Bodies -- Same Soul -- Multiple Personalities. I've encountered more than one "Dogma" character. I could be more specific, but I'd rather not. I was recently accused of "Playing Into the Devil's Hands"!! Perhaps they were right. I've attempted to be open, honest, and innovative -- MUCH to My Detriment. Attempting to Understand and Save the World is SO Overrated!! Still, I think the territory I've covered yields Science-Fiction which one couldn't possibly make-up!! I don't know why I posted all of the above. I guess I'm tired and bored. Now I'm going to sleep. I Dream of Jeannie with the Polka-Dot Bikini!!

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Carol Today at 5:23 pm

I enjoy your posts Oxy and the photos. What an interesting life you have.





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orthodoxymoron Today at 7:27 pm
Carol, the reality is that I'm miserable, burned-out, disillusioned, crazy -- and that I had more than enough, a very-long time ago. This online-madness is just catharsis -- and perhaps a research-baseline for future-reference. But I haven't lied about the "crazy-stuff". I keep repeating this fact (over and over again). I actually hold myself back (to an excruciating extent). In real-life I am the most boring and stupid ignoramus imaginable -- yet I seem to be capable of constructing somewhat interesting internet-posts (which very-few view or give a damn about). I SO Want to STOP.

I'm increasingly thinking in terms of a mildly-malevolent historical secret-government, which became more radical in the 20th century, and which now is in the process of unraveling. Beware of poison-pills and a scorched-earth policy. I'm also increasingly thinking in terms of a highly problematic universe, going back billions, or even trillions, of years. I'm increasingly thinking that we cannot properly understand our current nightmare, without understanding our ancient nightmare. But this might be too much for most of us to bear. Even Jesus said, "I have many things to tell you -- but you can't bear them." What if there is something worse than the New World Order, waiting in the wings? I have become very suspicious and pessimistic about a lot of things. I feel as if I am in profound conflict with Myself, Divinity, and Humanity -- as I seek an idealistic New Solar System in a Brave New Universe. I tend to think things are going to get significantly worse before they get better -- if they get better. Many of us are probably 'Good' because we have lacked the 'Opportunity' to be 'Bad'. In other lifetimes, some of the do-gooders might've been real-mothers! None is righteous. No, not one. What sort of beings might we encounter in the near-future? How might God relate to all of this? Can the Sovereignty of God coexist with Human Responsible-Freedom? Can the Royal-Model of Governance coexist with the Servant-Model of Governance? Is Absolute-Obedience and 'Just Following Orders' a Recipe for Disaster? But if the Commandments of God are interpreted merely as 'Suggestions' is this not also a Recipe for Disaster? Is there a Happy Medium in the house? This is enough to drive a man to drink!! What Would Bill Cooper Say? (WWBCS?) What Would Loki Do? (WWLD?) Here is another theologian who I have listened to rather closely, including in his office. Dr. Alden Thompson.
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlcDUqOXY9w
You will gain a real treat if you read his paper 'From Sinai to Golgotha' http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/white/alden/ or his book 'Who's Afraid of the Old Testament God?' Now I'm going to listen to another exciting Sherry Shriner show at www.thewatcherfiles.com Once again, this is NOT an endorsement. I am simply attempting to get used to all of the upsetting stuff on the internet -- and I like listening to Sherry's show because it forces me to think about things I'd rather not think about. She also seems to have an insider perspective. I'm still not sold on the orgone -- but I haven't really studied the subject. I've been thinking about researching Wilhelm Reich -- for a variety of reasons -- including the orgone issue. Supposedly the orgone burns Aliens, and causes UFO's to crash. I don't know if this is the case or not -- but I'm still trying to be somewhat neutral as I continue to passively shine the bright-lights on the subjects of Aliens and UFO's. I am bravely open-minded -- yet I retain a healthy level of reverent fear and trembling. Some time ago, I suggested the possibility that Nibiru (if it existed) might take up a relatively circular orbit, safely beyond the orbit of Pluto. What if this has indeed occurred??!! But what if Nibiru is filled with Giants who hate Earth-Humans? I also suggested the possibility that Nibiru might become a part of the hypothetical United States of the Solar System -- and that they might assist us in defending the solar system from hypothetical enemies. Is there any sense to this sort of thing? Once again, I have no idea what we're really dealing with. I get the feeling that those who really know, won't be talking to people like me anytime soon -- so the galactic guessing game continues. What would be the relationship between a United States of the Solar System, the hypothetical Orion-Sirius-Egyptian-Roman Empire, and the hypothetical Reincarnating Osiris-Isis-Horus-Set Royal Family? What about Dracs and Greys? Would the Galactic Powers That Be declare war on a newly established United States of the Solar System?

Will the Dracs declare war on me for posting this??? Will I experience a Drac-Attack??? Imagine the Dracs emerging from the spaceship doing the 'Dracarena'! I wonder if this sort of thing makes them mad at me??!! They might eat me!! You Are What You Eat!!

"Hey Dracarena!!!"
Listen to the Dracarena
while watching the Dracs Dance!!





"Once You've Had Drac -- You Never Go Back!!!"

This is a "Grey-Area"!!!



The End.​

 

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Carol Today at 10:50 am
Oxy, the truth of the matter is that we don't need to focus on any nightmare, past or present. I find watching Bob Ross painting videos to be an excellent form of creative meditation where he illustrates how to paint his happy little clouds. This is a man who lived through the horrors of war and came out of it choosing to be creative and happy.. helping others to tap into their own creative connection to Source as well.

The one thing about being human is we have a choice on what we focus on. Even in the midst of chaos those who focused on something positive.. their loving connection to family, friends and god faired the best.

Coming from a Buddhist perspective it's all illusion. Set illusion aside and what's left. One learns how to become a detached observer, yet someone with compassion for even the smallest of creations. Focus on compassion and your world perspective alters dramatically. How to do that? Focus on your heart, the portal to compassion.



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orthodoxymoron Today at 11:12 am
Bob Ross Rocks!! I learned about Bob from a VERY Talented Artist I know!! Notice Bob painting a cloud (below)!! I honestly think I'm morphing from "Crazy" Mode into "Positive-Reinforcing" Mode. Ignorance is Bliss!! Knowingness is SO Overrated!! Ironically, this website deals with a lot of Dark-Matter and Grey-Matter (and rightfully so IMHO). This internet-adventure has been an experiment for me. I've created a nasty-wound over the past eight-years -- and now I need to heal it. Luckily, I've been pretty tight-lipped about it -- and most of the posters know a lot more than I do -- so mostly "No Harm -- No Foul". Unfortunately, my local-community got warned and informed about me (by nefarious-forces) -- so I've lived in a "Fish-Bowl" for many years now. It seems to me that this sort of thing should be highly-illegal -- but what do I know?? Tough Times Never Last!! But Tough People Do!! Now I'm going to finish watching the 2011 movie Margin Call. It's really quite-fine. Then, I'll probably watch some old shows and movies featuring Raquel Welch or Barbara Eden. They are exquisite and heavenly!! Accentuate the Positive!!

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Sanicle Today at 11:25 am
SuiGeneris wrote:

Sanicle wrote:​

I was taught long ago that the mere act of closing a door for privacy on this level has the effect of presenting a barrier to those on the subtle levels as well, as our WILL to have that privacy for ourselves makes it so there. This has been proven to me to be truth. (Actually, just this past weekend, I was visited by something nasty. I appear to have developed clairolfactance over past months and the powerful stench of this being was that of rotten meat. I didn't notice it until I went to the bathroom and shut the door and that's when the stench came to me, accompanied by strong rattling of said door. It had to give up in the end as I had no fear of it so no link/hook was able to be made with me.) As is said so often, what you believe, but moreso what you KNOW to be true, is your defence against all from those realms. They can only do to you what you believe they can and/or allow them to.​

What caused the rattling of the door, and why does this seem to happen to some people and not others? What do you think is the determining factor for these 'visitations'?


Xeia

That is rather a large question to answer Xeia as there could be various answers dependent on the situation and the beings involved IMO.

As regards the door rattling it was the same you’d hear when a really strong gust of wind hits against an outside door or window. This was an inside door however and I can only assume that there was a strong influx of energy forced up against the door in an attempt to get through it. I know astral beings (including humans having an out of body experience) can manipulate energy thus through an effort of will backed by strong emotions, having experienced it before in different ways. I’ll give you a couple of examples.

Many long years ago a very irate ‘friend’ was unhappy with the lack of attention he was receiving while I was quietly doing some research on the computer, so he gave me a blow to the solar plexus which resulted in me feeling instantly sick and dizzy. I had to lie down on the cold floor in the bathroom for around half an hour before the sickness passed. This happened more than once. Another time, this same possessive and angry soul also took his temper out on a male friend of mine whom I was quite taken with. While this man was driving in the country, the jealous one caused his car to veer off the road into a tree. And yes, that dear friend died in the accident. Obviously that still upsets me………a lot.

So I would say that it most probably depends on who is hanging around you in each case and how intense their temper is, if they have the knowledge of directing their will in this way, and if they seek to cause harm and/or fear in this realm for purposes of their own. Most will wait to deal with you in the astral when you sleep which is a much fairer way of battling you, as there you have the same power of will to use to protect yourself against them IF you know how to use it. Or maybe some are just too impatient to wait for you to go to sleep.

I think it’s also fair to say that many may have been attacked like this from the astral but may not have recognized it consciously as being that or, more likely, would refuse to acknowledge that such a thing is possible and chosen to ‘forget’ it.



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Carol Today at 11:32 am

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdr4t7cQW2U




View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmdzfvXRuw




View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW2wKKFvH1g


Have fun. ​

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Sanicle Today at 1:04 am
Sanicle wrote:

SuiGeneris wrote:

Sanicle wrote:I was taught long ago that the mere act of closing a door for privacy on this level has the effect of presenting a barrier to those on the subtle levels as well, as our WILL to have that privacy for ourselves makes it so there. This has been proven to me to be truth. (Actually, just this past weekend, I was visited by something nasty. I appear to have developed clairolfactance over past months and the powerful stench of this being was that of rotten meat. I didn't notice it until I went to the bathroom and shut the door and that's when the stench came to me, accompanied by strong rattling of said door. It had to give up in the end as I had no fear of it so no link/hook was able to be made with me.) As is said so often, what you believe, but moreso what you KNOW to be true, is your defence against all from those realms. They can only do to you what you believe they can and/or allow them to.​

What caused the rattling of the door, and why does this seem to happen to some people and not others? What do you think is the determining factor for these 'visitations'?


Xeia​

That is rather a large question to answer Xeia as there could be various answers dependent on the situation and the beings involved IMO.

As regards the door rattling it was the same you’d hear when a really strong gust of wind hits against an outside door or window. This was an inside door however and I can only assume that there was a strong influx of energy forced up against the door in an attempt to get through it. I know astral beings (including humans having an out of body experience) can manipulate energy thus through an effort of will backed by strong emotions, having experienced it before in different ways. I’ll give you a couple of examples.

Many long years ago a very irate ‘friend’ was unhappy with the lack of attention he was receiving while I was quietly doing some research on the computer, so he gave me a blow to the solar plexus which resulted in me feeling instantly sick and dizzy. I had to lie down on the cold floor in the bathroom for around half an hour before the sickness passed. This happened more than once. Another time, this same possessive and angry soul also took his temper out on a male friend of mine whom I was quite taken with. While this man was driving in the country, the jealous one caused his car to veer off the road into a tree. And yes, that dear friend died in the accident. Obviously that still upsets me………a lot.

So I would say that it most probably depends on who is hanging around you in each case and how intense their temper is, if they have the knowledge of directing their will in this way, and if they seek to cause harm and/or fear in this realm for purposes of their own. Most will wait to deal with you in the astral when you sleep which is a much fairer way of battling you, as there you have the same power of will to use to protect yourself against them IF you know how to use it. Or maybe some are just too impatient to wait for you to go to sleep.

I think it’s also fair to say that many may have been attacked like this from the astral but may not have recognized it consciously as being that or, more likely, would refuse to acknowledge that such a thing is possible and chosen to ‘forget’ it.

I've thought about this further Xeia (plus slept on it where I get further input ) and I'm now wondering if it might depend also on the type of entity making the attack, whether it be human or of some other origin.

You see the being that caused me to be ill with the 'punch' and effected my friend who was driving was an astral traveling human with a bad, bad temper. I'm of the impression that, as I've indicated elsewhere, humans have more power behind their will because they have the element of emotions to add to their will and it's one other humans would relate to energetically, making it easier to 'slip in' to our aura, if you will. We often hear that the 'deceased' can effect electrical items, move things, etc with their will. There's also evidence that when a human is possessed that the entity within can move things in our reality, so I'm supposing it would be using the human's energy field to do this. These are the types of events that I've read and heard of, or experienced personally, in which some form of energetic contact and effect in this realm has been made. Essentially human to human, ie via those who have a natural, or innate, capacity to participate and wield energy here.

From my own experience, those whose natural 'home' is the astral can't truly effect us here in a physical way. For instance, I've been attacked by giant spiders while awake and felt nothing. The qualifier to that statement is that those who belong to the astral realms can't unless we ourselves are open to and have some link into the energies of the astral realm ie a doorway through which they can make their presence known to us (through the psychic senses) and thus effect us mentally and emotionally. It may be that they cannot actually effect us physically unless our own mental/emotional being registers the threat as such and 'allows' our body to register the effects through our own belief that they can do so. In essence, WE manifest the physical elements ourselves through our belief........energy following thought. All the entity needs to do is to influence our mind in such a case. Further to this, I'd like to add that I didn't actually see the bathroom door shaking (not that I was looking for it), but as I can hear them audibly (eg speaking) it could be that I 'heard' the rattling clairaudiently.

Have I explained all of that in a way that makes sense to you? I'm no expert and can only interpret things in accordance with my own experiences with said beings, so I'm not claiming to know the full 'truth' of things here.

Oh and one further thing I just thought of. This planet, including it's subtler bodies (eg astral, etheric, etc) is the natural territory of those who incarnate here and thus are given the spiritual right and ability to manipulate its energies via our bodies, physical and subtle. It stands to reason to me that the inhabitants of this world would, therefore, innately have more power to wield energies here, physically and subtly, than any visitors to our realm of being. Maybe there's a clue to there as to why the 'aliens' are working so bloody hard to create their hybrids. And, even more insidiously, why mind control is their major weapon against us.

 

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B.B.Baghor Yesterday at 10:55 pm
What a beatiful thread this is, offering much understanding and inspiration to me. Today I was curious about what happened in here. Voila

My words: "If I'm right, I tend to see the step that Sui Generis takes, the liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult, as chosen in a similar stance or calibre".

Part of Sui Generis' reply to this:
"Therefore, my liberation from the Thuban Sex cult did not come as a result of me refusing Thuban. I did not turn my back on it for a second.
I still don't and i never will. I withdrew my presence from Thuban facing Tony and stepping backwards. I face him even still"

Reading your reply, I found myself remembering what I've shared here about my willingness to read and see my own story, when in a conflict with
others or with a situation. In other words, to see what's in it for me that shows the truth of who I am, present in any circumstance that I'm part of
or that I witness around me, which easily becomes the same thing

Thank you for refining your explanation of how you chose your attitude, Sui Generis. That's an inspiration to me and if I may refer to your "bit of
context" where you talk about refusing, what it did to you and offered you as information, as truth about yourself, I can see, by your explaining
of your liberation from the Thuban Sex cult, that it doesn't work: running-or-walking away from what's being refused or rejected.

I can see clearly that the emotional content in that gesture, that action, is exactly the burden on our back, running with us. Or also, according to
a law of nature, where attention goes, energy flows.

Just like in that story of the 2 monks, arriving at the shore of a lively stream, finding a woman present, trying to find a way to cross the water in safety. One of the monks suggests to her, to carry her on his back and she accepts. Once they've safely arrived on the other side, the woman chooses her own path and the 2 monks continue to walk their own path. After a while, the monk who carried the woman, exclaims "We monks aren't supposed to touch a woman and I did!" To this his companion answers "You're still carrying her and I've forgotten about her already when we came to the other shore,
where she disappeared in another direction"

I'm fond of that story, for its mix of humor and wisdom teaching, how our mind is hooked as soon as its triggered by guilt for having disobeyed a rule
that isn't created and chosen by ourselves, a fear of punishment that brings instant punishment on the beholder. That's maybe similar to what Ortho chooses to call it, as he does in post 76 here.


B.B.Baghor wrote:
"Fill up any empty space in your energy-system that you find present. Drink water and eat something as a treat".

Sui Generis' reply to this:
"The empty space inside is an illusion, in the sense that no one should ever go and seek...to fill. From the soul's perspective the hurt is real, the disappointments, the feelings are real and when you perceive you lose something or when you think you lack you go and seek to fill. But in truth
there is nothing to fill. When you look at yourself from the Spirit's perspective you know you are already whole".

Yes, I agree with you, Sui Generis, that you and I with everybody are already whole. I think I forgot a detail in the instruction of filling up any empty
space. I should have said "Fill yourself up with your own energy, wherever you find or sense an empty space" That's a significant difference
and as far as I've experienced it, it works well for me to do that. Not as in "this instruction is a guarantee for success" for I believe that in this sort of
working, there are as much curriculums as there are human beings, when using their skills of creatorship.

To offer you a bit of context too, in the early '80's I was introduced to a school, a training for intuitive development and I believed these instructions
to be dictated rules that I had to obey, in order to make them work for me. Being a minister's daughter, having grown up in a small world with people who mostly shared more of the same view with me, I held quite a black-and-white view on life, how I dealt with it and with others in it. I believed that
all the teachers were seeers who could see everything and therefore know all truth in everybody.

So, in a way, I declared them Gods and Goddesses, now that I think of it. Wasn't I thrown in the cauldron of that religious potion, so that I belonged
and should know that I was loved by God? What more do you need, hmm? If you look at life with an intention to "gather together in front of God's
throne and sing and dance in white robes, for eternity? That's an image I held inside of me as a young girl. Another part of me was wiser and rebellious,
shrugging shoulders, showing off in bravery, jumping in the ditch on Summer Sundays after the sermon of my father, with other kids. Our black lackered shoes and clean white socks on the shore, at times nearly left behind.

It took me 30 years and a prophecy to myself, a surprise gift to myself on my 59th birthday, Jan. 1 2010: "From now on I will come out of the closet
with all of my faces and all of my masks" voiced with my own voice out of the deepest blue. The prophecy became an action, I experienced a big
rumbling inner earthquake that year. In despair for identifying myself with an illusion, which became for one and a half year, the tree root to which I
clung onto, on the edge of a cliff. This was purgatory too and to me the essence of the 9 of swords Tarot card.

And so it happened that I could let that black-and-white view and attitude melt, for some time all was fluid, as the fluid phase of the chrysalis, at some point ready to come out of its butterfly cocoon, drying its wings and spreading them for a first flight. To me this was a rebirth with a new vitality, spontaneity and wonder, in more of me, myself and I. I danced a lot at home, my body lost 15 kg in 6 months time. All of it was as much welcome as it was scary! Oh boy, oh girl, how I learned that being truly powerful and strong includes all flavors of the emotional rainbow as well! And that vulnaribility was a great companion to it! Plus the mundanities of life and the exquisities of life, courseness and refinement both.

The garbage of planet Earth as the compost for the flower to feed on and florish. I guess this post describes in several ways how qualities of transformation and transmutation manifest themselves in the real world... out there. Most of it happened without me noticing it, until I began creeping out of my cocoon

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Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

orthodoxymoron on Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:27 am

I'm sorry for some of the insensitive posts I've made on this thread. I guess I hoped they would be therapeutic for myself and others -- but neither seems to be the case. But seriously, I think that Psychology, Ethics, Law, and Money should be near the center of most serious philosophical and spiritual discussions (including the topic of this thread). "What's Wrong With It??" "What's Right With It??" I keep wondering if there is an alternative to Thuban Thinking and Speaking which simply focuses upon Science and Science-Fiction??!! The Dragonian Mumbo-Jumbo seems to be a nearly insurmountable obstacle for most of us. I've tried to provide a Kinder and Gentler More-User-Friendly alternative to Thuban with my strange threads -- but they obviously haven't caught-on!! Now I've given-up -- and I'm moving-on -- for better or worse, I know not. You won't have orthodoxymoron to kick around anymore!! What Would Richard Nixon Say?? One last thing. A serious and mature discussion of Sexual-Ethics might be beneficial. I shy away from such discussions, simply because I'm probably one of the most repressed specimens on the planet. Anyway, I'm out of here. Good-Bye.

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Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Sanicle Today at 9:24 am

Good grief!! I've just read over some of the posts I've made here and it sounds as though I've had nothing but negative experiences with some of the 'more difficult' beings to be found in the other dimensions when nothing could be further from the truth haha. If anyone's wondering, let me assure you that I've had many experiences with rather wonderful beings there also and feel truly blessed. For instance, as regards the recent development of clairofaction (or clairalience), that 'angel' I spoke of recently smells absolutely heavenly. (Forgive the pun but he does.) I suspect that he and his gifted me with this ability actually as he was the first I experienced it with when I met him.

The reason I mentioned experiences with the 'darker' ones was so that Xeia knows that I'm not entirely ignorant as regards these types of situations and can relate in part.

So to be clear, apart from the recent 'meeting' with that putrid smelling being a few weeks back, it's been an exhilarating and beneficial journey for years now, and I'm healthy, happy and sane. Which is the whole point of relating these older experiences in that there's no need to fear them. Rather they were very educational, balancing and strengthening. As the 'angel' said to me just a few nights ago (which was lovely to hear) the reason I have strong beings around me now is because I am strong, and I know going through those older nasty experiences are a good part of why that is so. (And the 'angel' knows all about all of them.) Until you've been tested, you never really know what you are capable of enduring and rising above. (The dark night of the soul?)

That reminds me, back in 1988 when I was doing all of that (what I call) impressed writing (like firefly's daughter) I was told that my journey was going to include what they called being 'alieved'........in their words: "a time of Light is come to lift and a time of Love is come to weigh" in order to help that person. That was before I began that journey with the angry, young astral traveller who "accidentally" (he says) killed my friend.

So I hope this explanation puts things into better perspective if that indeed was needed.



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Carol Today at 11:05 am
Goodness Oxy. I've never considered any of your posts negative except for when you get down on yourself. We you.



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orthodoxymoron Today at 6:44 pm

Carol, what is implied with the little bull?? Somewhat unrelatedly, I keep wondering about Taurus and Mithras Precursors. I keep thinking about what Brook said about Isis being thrown into a snake-pit for refusing to cooperate with the reptilians in the enslavement of humanity. Dr. Richard Carrier describes a goddess (I can't remember which one) who was executed, and THEN placed on a cross (presumably long before Taurus, Mithras, and Jesus). I need to do some research, and get my facts straight BUT I keep thinking about the "Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World" in the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Was this the original Solar System CEO?? Were they replaced by a MUCH Tougher Solar System CEO (who has ruled since the Garden of Eden)?? Acts through Revelation say suspiciously little about the Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ. Why?? I love Idealistic Messianic Conceptualizations BUT The Greatest Story Ever Told seems to be Fatally-Flawed. What Would Albert Schweitzer Say?? What Would Rudolph Bultmann Do?? As you well know, I have suggested studying Job through Malachi side-by-side with Romans through Jude as a possible modality for approximating the Character of the Real-Christ (who might've lurked in the shadows -- rather than being featured in scripture). What if Isis created the Bible as Puzzle and Punishment for a Rebellious and Recalcitrant Earth-Humanity?? What if we are fundamentally dealing with Two Rival Goddesses in the Garden of Eden?? OR What if we are dealing with Two Closely-Related Goddesses who FAKED a War in Heaven and Earth -- so as to create an APPARENT Power-Vacuum specifically intended to Cleanse the Sanctuary -- such that Sin an Sinners will be no more -- and that a Rebellion Against God Will NEVER Happen Again?? Do you see why I'm miserable and paranoid?? Do you see why I want to STOP??!! I keep wondering if the Editorial-Voice in the Post 1890 Writings of Ellen White is somehow the Voice of Isis -- rather than the voice of a 3rd grade educated hyper-religious and somewhat-fanatical strong-woman?? What Would Delenn and Vala say?? What Would Serqet Say?? What Would Amen Ra Say?? I honestly don't want to think or talk about this stuff anymore. I'd rather just drive around in some sort of sports-car (dreaming of giving Jeannie in a Polka-Dot Bikini a ride)!! It might be easier that way!! What Would Sherry Shriner Say?? Where the Hell is Carrollton, Ohio?? What Would Brother Rich Say?? What Would Anubis Do?? What Would Anchor Do?? What Would the Humble Janitor Do?? What Would Archangel Gabriel Do?? What Would Edgar Mitchell Do?? What Would Carol Rosin Do?? What Would Mr. Edgars Do?? What Would Mitchell Do?? What Would the Ancient Egyptian Do?? The AED mentioned a "Woman Hidden in a Male-Body"!! What Would Alanis Morissette Say?? What Would Alan Rickman Say?? I should STOP!! This stuff Scares the Hell Out of Me!! Good-Bye Again!!

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B.B.Baghor Yesterday at 11:16 pm
Sanicle wrote:

... As the 'angel' said to me just a few nights ago (which was lovely to hear) the reason I have strong beings around me now is because I am strong, and I know going through those older nasty experiences are a good part of why that is so. (And the 'angel' knows all about all of them.) Until you've been tested, you never really know what you are capable of enduring and rising above. (The dark night of the soul?)

That reminds me, back in 1988 when I was doing all of that (what I call) impressed writing (like firefly's daughter) I was told that my journey was going to include what they called being 'alieved'........in their words: "a time of Light is come to lift and a time of Love is come to weigh" in order to help that person. That was before I began that journey with the angry, young astral traveller who "accidentally" (he says) killed my friend.

So I hope this explanation puts things into better perspective if that indeed was needed.

That's so good to hear you, Sanicle, that you had and still have enjoyable contacts and experiences, with support present for you in company of the testing events and beings that are part of it. I'm going to post my experience and view out in the open, reminded by Sui Generis' suggestion, in her response to my first post in this thread (if I'm right) to post in the open space of the Forum for the benefit of a broader discussion, in other words, shedding light on it from different angles, so that clarity is gained for those who wish for it.

I've read your post through and with former posts of you here, it puts things into better perspective for me, a better understanding of your life-journey, at least that's how I feel now. Not having followed you in your Elementals-thread from the start I feel there are gaps in my understanding of it and therefore, of who you are in it, in the sort of experiences you describe, which makes it easier for me now to connect some dots or commas.

The parts of your post in the quote above made me think of the role and value of what it means to be in resonance. For the sake of progress in one's life, or obstacles. I think I need to give an example of what I mean by that. First: "the role": imagine me holding an emotional charge inside that attracts a similar charged person or event. Just like when you pluck a guitar string and the same string on a second guitar vibrates "in resonance" with it.

Translating that same process to an experience with a person that makes me react in shock, going into survival, I'm not able to see the story triggered, resonating within me. Not immediately. I'm human enough to know that I went, according psychological laws, through emotional phases that are known to most of us, I presume: initial shock, denial, anger, sadness, etc. the whole rainbow of emotions to work through. Or in other words "The truth will set you free, but first it pisses you off".

When there's a growing acceptance of that rainbow, an admitting of having invited the experience in my life due to resonance, or.... like attracts like, then and there enters "the value": it triggers and brings the emotional charge in awareness, so that its witnessed, felt and possibly released of its charge and healed. I'm describing experiences I've gone through that turned out that way, see? It's not a prescription like "one size fits all", for we all row our own boat on the ocean of our existence. A wave in my ocean may seem a drop to others and this is true in reverse as well. I know I've felt like drowning at times, which only felt that way but wasn't at all.

I offer my thoughts and views, wondering how your thoughts and views are on this aspect of resonance, Sanicle. For it seems to me, that you and I are on a life-journey, with a few wayshowers and signs that look similar. To me, the middle of the road I chose, proved to be a truth about myself, showing me that by bypassing my core issues, working on the issues of others to make them and the world feel okay with me, I was creating many windings and windmills of my mind, even entering the world of illusions to try to make my world go round smoothly.

It was until I began to find the affinity within my heart for myself, in honest tears and laughter, that I found the portal that gave entrance to that landscape, which I describe and choose as a metaphor for autonomy. A landscape without a fixed horizon. By that I mean that my learning never
ends and by knowing that, there's always a new choice in every next moment. That reminds me of the fluidity, mentioned in the blog by female warrior.

Thank you for your thoughtfulness and sharing in honesty.

 

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Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Sanicle Today at 7:11 am

Goodness, to my way of thinking you are asking a loaded question re the possible energetic reasons behind the type of relationships we both endured on our journey that has no short answer BB, although I guess you could say it has on a more mundane level so I’ll start with that aspect first.

As regards ‘resonance’ I would say that probably exists between you and I as regards us both having a traumatic relationship that called up our core issues to resolve and ‘set us free’ from the pain. So ‘Like attracts Like’ probably applies there. But there’s also the ‘Opposites attract’ law and I think that is more applicable in the relationship I had. (I don’t know about yours.) You see I learned over time that he ‘suffers’ from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (confirmed by others) and my self-esteem was very low when we met, making me the perfect patsy for him to manipulate. At an astral level, because of the relationship, it also made me a great feeding ground for him and his darker associates, which he admitted having eventually, his excuse being that he wanted to learn ‘their tricks’ so they couldn’t trap him in them. I could go on about the delusions in his mind, and/or that he fed me, about that but it would make this post far too long.

Next I’ll go on and say that I also learned of ‘karmic’ bonds between us, going back many thousands of years. The ‘first’ life together on this planet explains all the others that followed, the core issue between us not really changing over the years. That involved the choice between holding on to our spiritual connections or learning about, by indulging in, the animal lusts of the bodies we found ourselves in, the latter being his choice then and since. I felt guilt (which is what I believe really leads to what is called ‘karma’ in the western world) after the first time around because I’d continued my spiritual studies (being the leader of the temple) while hoping that he would return to the fold of his own accord ie I didn’t go out of my way to ‘help’ him overcome his ‘curiosity’ and felt responsible for the connections he lost as a result of his forays.

At a broader level, to my mind anyway, that original issue between us correlates in many ways to what I’ve come to see as being a major issue on this planet, especially for truth seekers and as regards the male/female dynamic, and that’s where there is no short answer. Rather I will list a few things, general and specific, for your consideration. Where to start?

At a general level, why is there so much snake/reptilian symbology tied up with the more challenging aspects of the journey of a seeker of truth on this planet eg the kundalini’s fiery awakening, the ourobouros, dragons, sea serpents, the serpents invariably seen by those who take Ayahuasca, the reptilians ETs and those who supposedly live underground on our planet (ie above and below)?

Why is it that when we dream about being chased by snakes we are said to have a fear of sex?

Why do men talk about their ‘trouser snake’ and use it to delight or torment women and, on that note, why is the F word in such common usage when its energetic signature is to dominate and take from women?

Why is it that the passion/lust derived from the lower chakras can lead to life (via sex) or death (via jealousy, rape, the lust to kill, etc)?

Why is it that this planet is sandwiched between the energy flows of Venus and Mars?

Why did the old male god Yahweh only punish Eve for taking the apple rather than punish Adam for listening to her and partaking of the apple as well? Why was it Eve was told it would give her knowledge of ‘good and evil’ and why was it a ‘serpent’ that gave it to her? And what about Lilith?

Why that ‘dark’ energy is said to signify the negative and all that is evil, but also the feminine and receptivity?

Why is it in ‘modern’ religions men are told to persecute women because of their sexuality, blaming the woman for the desires of the man?

Why is it that we speak of this planet as ‘Mother’ Earth and speak of her being ‘raped’ by the male-run industries of today?

How could these reptilian ETs (and others) ‘feed’ on sexual energies if there were no women, especially women who’ve been conditioned to fear the strength of dominating males? But how would life exist on this planet without us?

I could go on but suffice it to say that I see the reasons for going through these relationships as we did as having a lot more significance on our journeys towards truth. And I listed them on this thread as I think they pertain to what Xeia has had to say about what underlies the teachings of Thubanism as well.

I think people generally tend to avoid the significance of the reptilian energy existent everywhere in our realities, mundane and spiritual, and they really shouldn’t as it is key. As is said, all the answers are there to be seen in the world around us. And I haven’t even gone into the roles the females of each species play in Nature re what the true balance might be.

 

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Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

B.B.Baghor Yesterday at 11:42 am

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Thank you, Sanicle, for your honesty. Yes it's honest to say that we share a similar imprinting at the start of our lives. Although I woke up to enter the core of it, 5 years ago. My question regarding resonance addresses issues in all levels of life, for isn't resonance an initial starting up of a process, a life event that is lived through with all of that we are and how we express ourselves, physically, emotionally and spiritually?

To me, when talking about opposites that attract each other, as you call it, and my view on resonance in "like attracts like" I see no opposite in the way I look at it. There's a sense of opposition maybe, I can see that, but I can't see an opposition in both beings that are involved, at the root of it, deep inside.

To me, there's a different expression of the same issue, in 2 people that feel attracted to each other, so that people from the outside exclaim"Oh, these two are so very different, like the day and the night"

One may choose to survive by sublimating the pain and masking the trauma, projecting each evidence of that in his/her life, fully on others. The pain is fuel for an abuse of power in order to build walls around a broken trust. The other of the two may choose to survive by feeling unworthy and guilty, suppressing the trauma too, but in a different way, avoiding the use of power at all costs, for that's what caused the trauma in this person in the first place.

That's how I felt caught in that view, be it at the root of my present life or stemming from past life experiences. Or both, which was the case, in my situation. I've learned to look at it this way, going into deeper levels. At some point, two years ago, I asked myself a deeply honest question. I said "If I had to go through an experience of feeling abandoned and as a result of that, found evidence of being denied even, at the tiny first flowering of my life, what is it in me, what is it that caused me to choose for such a deep denial in the first place?"

I still can feel the trembling inside, when I asked myself this question. Slowly, through time, I've found the pieces of the puzzle, the true core of what caused my existences to be played out in a certain way. Not all was enshrouded in suffering, by the way, I've found that I've tried to look in many facets of the crystal called life.

Now that I've found the gift that was hidden in the suffering, and rewrote my life's script, I can still find similar tremblings inside, caused by triggers in the outside world, but I know how to look at them and see them for what they truly are, with compassion, common sense and humor, when I'm awake. More often than not, these days. Not always, for I'm no saint

And so, to go back to the question "Is it likeness or an opposite force?" although the way and expression is different, what's at the bottom of both partners is the same. To me, like always attracts like, and like finds its other like by resonance, so to speak. From the personality level it may seem there's an opposite, for when I'm upset and feel hurt by someone else, I'm instinctively jumping to conclusions that show up with proof "Oh no, I can't believe it, I would never do such a thing, I wouldn't even consider it an option!" To me, the tendency to judge any outside cause as "the guilty and nasty party" is part of the victim's role, in need of verifying and justifying the suffering that I may hold inside, as a victim.

To me, all mythical, psychic or drug induced visions of dragon - or snake like creatures, are projections of our human nature in polarity consciousness.
We seem to be sort of.... ordained to make chocolate of both sides of one hand. Figuring out what's been shown in this mirror: evil-live. I'm finding much recognition in the work of Carl Gustav Jung, more in his own biography, in the way he chose to walk his life, bravely exposing himself to the test of his own theories, when he grew up, while Sigmund Freud was becoming famous elsewhere in the world.

If I've understood well, living together for those two is what 's called a double bind relationships. We can't live without the other and so we sustain a life in suffering and we can't work it out, for being caught in that paradigm, that loop, when lacking confidence and feelings of safety and trust. Both partners keep this pact alive and so
the shackles are very strong.

It's synchronicity again, that I've followed several online discussions of people who've lived or still try to live with a parent, sibling or spouse with a narcistic personality. Some of them were honest in saying that they couldn't acknowledge
the truth of knowing that they lived with a spouse that showed many signs of a narcistic personality. After reading the signs and shared experiences.

Something inside couldn't cope with that truth and I can understand that very well, when I remember the time, when 2 parts of me with different views, were present in me. One part couldn't live with the truth and held on to an illusion and another part knew very clearly that this, what the other part avoided to acknowledge, in disbelief, was the truth.

Fortunately, I acted on the latter, in making different steps and new decisions in my life, which is almost as if it happened outside of me having a say in it. That is, it seems that my mind didn't have much say in this

I need to explain that once I began to discern and know my projections and the deeper issues that were triggered, I found that much of my pain had nothing to do with the cause, or rather... the trigger and waking up of all that was already present within me, but needed to be addressed. I know that my being was the director of all that happened in this life transforming experience, 5 years ago. Part of the healing was also going through past life experiences and memories, again, without my mind having a say in it

Thank you, Sanicle, for having this conversation with you. Do you feel we're having one? I'll come back to it in a week or so, for I'm busy with sorting out my home in Holland, having someone in my home to choose what can be arranged and made ready for transport and more of the sort of things that need to be done, when moving overseas, to another country.



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Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Sanicle Yesterday at 11:54 am

Interesting quote in the image above BB. And yes, it has been another interesting conversation with you but again it feels as if nothing much has been achieved as we both still seem to be reading different chapters of the same book, although each of us fully understands what the other is saying and prefers our own point of view at this point in time. And that's just fine.

I wish you well with your current re-arrangements and, as always, with your future journeying.




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B.B.Baghor Yesterday at 12:25 pm
Sanicle wrote:
Interesting quote in the image above BB. And yes, it has been another interesting conversation with you but again it feels as if nothing much has been achieved as we both still seem to be reading different chapters of the same book, although each of us fully understands what the other is saying and prefers our own point of view at this point in time. And that's just fine.

I wish you well with your current re-arrangements and, as always, with your future journeying.



Almost logging off, but I found your speedy reply in our conversation and I guess it's why I asked you if you felt we were having one,
that I felt the same as you're putting into words, for me, for us. I love to let it sit and simmer, see what it does to me. It always does. But I can't
put that in words very easily, which is fine with me. Thanks very much, Sanicle

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Sanicle Today at 11:06 pm
When you have time BB, would you mind explaining more fully and 'candidly' what you mean by polarity consciousness in this part of what you said above?

To me, all mythical, psychic or drug induced visions of dragon - or snake like creatures, are projections of our human nature in polarity consciousness.
We seem to be sort of.... ordained to make chocolate of both sides of one hand. Figuring out what's been shown in this mirror: evil-live.​

I'm assuming that it fits in with what you said in an earlier commentary..........

To me, the middle of the road I chose, proved to be a truth about myself, showing me that by s to try to make my world go round smoothly. bypassing my core issues, working on the issues of others to make them and the world feel okay with me, I was creating many windings and windmills of my mind, even entering the world of illusion to try to make my world go round smoothly.

It was until I began to find the affinity within my heart for myself, in honest tears and laughter, that I found the portal that gave entrance to that landscape, which I describe and choose as a metaphor for autonomy. A landscape without a fixed horizon. By that I mean that my learning never ends and by knowing that, there's always a new choice in every next moment. That reminds me of the fluidity, mentioned in the blog by female warrior.​

I get the feeling this is more at the heart of what's being discussed here and, in essence, a response to all those 'why' questions I proposed? Are the words "even entering the world of illusions" significant here?