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shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Mar 14th 2013

The current pope is resigning the 28th of Februry

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burgundia Yesterday at 10:19 am

From facebook:

Are you not aware that PETER THE ROMAN is already running the Vatican? ISCARIOT, lookup "Tarcisio Peter Bertone"

ISCARIOT an anagram for Tarcisio

ISCARIOT as in JUDAS the betrayer of Christ...



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enemyofNWO Yesterday at 11:58 am

The new PAPPA ( sic ) has been elected . We don't know who it is .

At the site below on the right of the window there is a link to a live commentary

Click below this sign " Attesa per sapere il nome del nuovo Papa|Diretta video in corso "

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enemyofNWO Yesterday at 12:15 pm

His name is Bergoglio and comes from Buenos Aires ( Argentina ) South America




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Carol Yesterday at 1:50 pm

Ecco Papa Francesco: è l'argentino Bergoglio
"Hola"
'Did not want to be pope'...
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Aquaries1111 Yesterday at 2:44 pm
POPE FRANCIS I ELECTION
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Significance of Date
+ 13.3.13- North
+14.3.13- South
+Traditional Ides of Mars (March) in Lunar Calendar
+Traditional Birthday of Mithra, (14th Mars, 455 BCE)
+Traditional Birthday (14th Mars 6 CE) of Iesus
+See: http://one-ireland.org/sacred_texts/clann_glas/clann_glas_0180.htm
and Day of Crucifixion (14th Mars 36 CE) of Iesus
+See: http://one-ireland.org/sacred_texts/clann_glas/clann_glas_0200.htm
+Day that Jesuits were allowed to start their mission via Papal Bull Injunctum nobis (14 March 1543)
+Birthday of Francis Anthony O’Collins (Frank O’Collins) 3.14.1965
+Pi = 3.14 1 5 9 2 65

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Significance of Name
+Francis = France/Franks and the founders of the original and true Catholic Church
+See: http://one-evil.org/content/entities_organizations_catholic_church.html
+Francis is name given to the famous Venetian Doge known as “Francis of Assisi” who founded the apparatus of the Roman Cult
See: http://one-evil.org/content/people_13c_francis_of_assisi.html
+Amongst other definitions, Frank means “spear” or “lance”
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Significance of Appearance
+ Pope Francis I appeared as Patriarch and Vicar, not as Supreme Pontiff, fulfilling the Prophecy of St Malachy (Moloch), that the reign of Supreme Pontiffs is over
+ Pope Francis I indicated an urgency to go and pray to Mary (the carnation of Magna Mater and Cybele) the patron Deity of Rome, indicating as such. Not only does this indicate the fulfilment of the prophecies of Fatima, but evidence of some deep spiritual event within the Conclave.
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[3:36:22 AM- Friday, March 15th, 2013 +11UCT -March of Ides and Assassination of Julius Caesar 33BC]
Wyzard97: http://one-ireland.org/sacred_texts/clann_glas/clann_glas_0180.htm
[3:36:28 AM] Wyzard97: 358-360
[3:37:24 AM] Wyzard97: Can Antilogos be more vile and misleading?
[3:38:44 AM] Wyzard97: http://www.ucadia.com/gen_society.htm


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Logos Questions continued


[11:31:23 AM-Friday, March 15th, 2013 -+11UCT]
Wyzard97:
So Francis I the Franciscan Jesuit
[11:31:39 AM] Sirius 17: yes and apparently he fulfils Malachy
[11:31:41 AM] Wyzard97: This fits with Chavez South-America
[11:31:58 AM] Wyzard97: Remember the Kryon post to Xeia?
[11:32:06 AM] Sirius 17: umm not specifically
[11:32:20 AM] Wyzard97: I thought an Italian was more likely
[11:32:33 AM] Sirius 17: well the whole world did too
[11:32:49 AM] Sirius 17: but it makes sense concerning catholic agenda
[11:33:00 AM] Sirius 17: huge hispanic catholic population
[11:33:16 AM] Sirius 17: this will get them all fired up
[11:33:19 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and he is just a token pope
[11:33:37 AM] Wyzard97: Malachy is done
[11:33:43 AM] Sirius 17: yes a new face for Catholicism
[11:34:12 AM] Sirius 17: i dont know that much about him but i like his bold choice of the name of Francis
[11:34:17 AM] Wyzard97: Well in a few weeks, the razzamattaz will be over
[11:34:24 AM] Sirius 17: that took some balls lol
[11:34:30 AM] Wyzard97: Noone dared hitherto yes
[11:34:51 AM] Wyzard97: So it is a symbol for the end of the pomp
[11:35:22 AM] Sirius 17: i can see the humbliness they are trying to portray by choosing him though
[11:35:22 AM] Wyzard97: A political powershift from Europe to SA
[11:35:33 AM] Sirius 17: i dont know if he is much of a reformer, he seems too placid
[11:35:49 AM] Wyzard97: He is as conservative as the rest
[11:36:02 AM] Wyzard97: antisex etc
[11:36:14 AM] Sirius 17: i wonder if he will adress the abuse scandle or ignore it like the rest
[11:36:25 AM] Wyzard97: It is the location that is a shift not the dogma
[11:36:40 AM] Wyzard97: dogma is as usual
[11:36:41 AM] Sirius 17: yes i can see how it empowers SA somewhat
[11:36:59 AM] Wyzard97: Yes this is the thing with little else
[11:37:14 AM] Wyzard97: Bertone was the Romanus
[11:37:23 AM] Wyzard97: The Italian
[11:37:35 AM] Sirius 17: oh the stand in?
[11:37:48 A] Sirius 17: yes i recall you mention he fulfilled Malachy
[11:37:53 AM] Wyzard97: Of course and burgundia saw this on facebook
[11:38:03 AM] Wyzard97: His name is an anagram for Iscariot
[11:38:10 AM] Wyzard97: I liked that
[11:38:11 AM] Sirius 17: lol
[11:38:15 AM] Sirius 17: really
[11:39:02 AM] Sirius 17: ISCARIOT an anagram for Tarcisio
ISCARIOT as in JUDAS the betrayer of Christ...
[11:39:06 AM] Sirius 17: oh i see it now
[11:39:17 AM] Sirius 17: lol clever Burgundia
[11:39:30 AM] Wyzard97: From facebook:
Are you not aware that PETER THE ROMAN is already running the Vatican? ISCARIOT, lookup "Tarcisio Peter Bertone"
ISCARIOT an anagram for Tarcisio
ISCARIOT as in JUDAS the betrayer of Christ...
[11:39:46 AM] Wyzard97: Yes but she found it not deduced it
[11:39:54 AM] Sirius 17: ah yeah
[11:40:02 AM] Wyzard97: But this is fulfilment
[11:40:21 AM] Wyzard97: RCC is 'Logos officially' deceased
[11:40:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes finally
[11:40:47 AM] Wyzard97: Bertone 'betrayed' or sold the legacy of the papacy
[11:40:51 AM] Sirius 17: they have no more authority
[11:41:07 AM] Wyzard97: Ides of March today
[11:41:19 AM] Sirius 17: oh it is the 15th there
[11:41:21 AM] Wyzard97: Caesars demise as Roman emperor
[11:41:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes perfect timing
[11:41:30 AM] Wyzard97: Yes it is now
[11:41:36 AM] Wyzard97: 33BC
[11:42:25 AM] Wyzard97: Caesar dies as Old Rome and the Holy Roman Empire, which became the modern west now has 'fallen' too
[11:42:50 AM] Wyzard97: See the 'west' went 'south'?
[11:43:15 AM] Sirius 17: yes as prophecied
[11:46:46 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130314102140.htm
[11:46:49 AM] Sirius 17: did you see this
[11:46:55 AM] Sirius 17: another release today
[11:47:28 AM] Wyzard97: yes old hat
[11:47:56 AM] Wyzard97: Nothing new about the HB. They only verified the energy level
[11:48:11 AM] Sirius 17: yes just the timing of the release and how it fits with everything
[11:48:33 AM] Wyzard97: Ah, I see the naming as the 'God Particle'
[11:52:10 AM] Wyzard97: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=54C5812C-5B5A-455F-B5D4-80FBD9A74B98
[11:52:31 AM] Wyzard97: KRYON=83=WISDOM=GNOSIS=IN PERU=IN 60=IN WORD=IN RAVEN=HER CAT IN BAB E5=CATHERINE
APEP=38=NOAH=BRIDE=ALPHA
* Kryon Book 8 - 2000 - Page 341 "The Journey of the Feathered Serpent."
For Xeia SuiGeneris and the Sisterhood of Andromeda in the Ennead of the Astral Southern Waters of Atlas-Pleione
in Perseus Enantio Dextro and Andromeda Enantio Levo
http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_Lima-11.html

[12:00:45 PM] Sirius 17: So this 'Love of God' is actually the 'Particle of all of Creation'. We dragons term it the LOVEPHOTON and it is defined in precise mathematical parameters, which relate and couple the macrocosmos as the winded and low energy mode of the 10D superstrings to the vibratory and high-energy modes of the microcosmos.
It is the Father Eps=1/e*=1/2Rec2 =Energy-Prime-Source part of the coupling- or entanglement constants from above; the other part being the Mother part as the Ess=Energy-Secondary-Sink part defining the indicated White Holes and Black Holes as wormhole bridges.

[12:00:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes hehe
[12:02:10 PM] Wyzard97: This is NOT the Higgs Raven
[12:02:39 PM] Wyzard97: This is a vector boson of integer spin, the HB has 0 spin
[12:02:59 PM] Sirius 17: what is not the higgs?
[12:03:06 PM] Sirius 17: what they have found you mean?
[12:03:27 PM] Wyzard97: The HB has matter colour, but the Lovephoton, whic h is a gauge boson has radiation colour
[12:03:50 PM] Wyzard97: Your Dragon reference is the real 'God Particle'
[12:03:59 PM] Sirius 17: well the Love Photon is our God Particle
[12:04:08 PM] Wyzard97: The HB is YYCCMM and the LP is RGB
[12:04:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes why i pasted it
[12:04:35 PM] Wyzard97: yes
[12:04:55 PM] Sirius 17: it is the real God-Particle...not the higgs
[12:05:24 PM] Wyzard97: The HB is actually a primordial double neutron, each of spin ½, but of opposite and so cancelling quantum spin
[12:05:38 PM] Wyzard97: +½-½=0
[12:05:44 PM] Sirius 17: they have not found it yet then
[12:06:03 PM] Wyzard97: This is what this article confirmed with more data analysis
[12:06:44 PM] Wyzard97: They found a HB as the scalar integral or summation of its lower energy selfstates
[12:06:56 PM] Sirius 17: well anyhow, it was not so much what the article said just the timing of it today, its all over the news as to why i thought it was relevant
[12:08:04 PM] Wyzard97: The HB is the antiradiation substitute and so symbolises the antiLogos becoming disempowered yes
[12:08:45 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/14/tech/innovation/higgs-boson-god-particle/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 see even on CNN MSN
[12:09:10 PM] Wyzard97: Before there was any mass, there were radiative and antiradiative eigenstate templates, which allowed the RGB to transform into inertia as YCM matter and MCY anhtimatter
[12:10:03 PM] Sirius 17: so they have found a primordial particle then yes?
[12:10:36 PM] Wyzard97: Because there is no natural antimatter in the universe (except in pair production FROM sufficiently enhanced energy states), the antiradiation became 'suppressed' in favour of the HB
[12:10:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[12:11:19 PM] Wyzard97: But they dont understand yet, that the HB is NOT primordial as the origin of energy
[12:11:35 PM] Wyzard97: It is the origin of manifested mass though
[12:11:37 PM] Sirius 17: no i didn't think they could
[12:12:06 PM] Wyzard97: This relates to the mystery of gravity of course
[12:12:21 PM] Sirius 17: well will this tell them more about gravity then?
[12:12:48 PM] Wyzard97: Mass and inertia become a cosnsequence of the string epoch BEFORE the Big Bang classical-relativistic
[12:13:23 PM] Wyzard97: No, because the Graviton is coupled to the HB and to the LP and some other gauges
[12:13:38 PM] Wyzard97: The graviton has spin 2
[12:13:47 PM] Wyzard97: The LP has spin 1
[12:13:52 PM] Wyzard97: The HB has spin 0
[12:14:07 PM] Wyzard97: They all must couple to add to a total 0 spin
[12:14:32 PM] Wyzard97: So you have a Gluon and a Weak Vector Boson as well
[12:14:41 PM] Sirius 17: so CERN likely is not powerful enough to see this connection then?
[12:15:03 PM] Wyzard97: I detail all of this on the science threads, like Genesis of Genesis
[12:15:26 PM] Wyzard97: You are moving in unfamiliar waters here Raven
[12:15:37 PM] Sirius 17: i know
[12:15:58 PM] Wyzard97: You dont have the background to understand what I am saying and the news releases dont tell you this either in thyeir generalities
[12:16:01 PM] Sirius 17: i am not a quantum physicist
[12:16:36 PM] Wyzard97: The LP is +1 and the Graviton is -2
[12:17:26 PM] Wyzard97: The HB is 0 and encompasses the nuclear interactions in a Gluon of +1 and the suppressed antigauge of -1
[12:17:39 PM] Wyzard97: his latter can be very well called the 'Devil Particle'
[12:17:56 PM] Sirius 17: gravity then?
[12:18:13 PM] Wyzard97: So adding this up leaves you a -1 quantum spin
[12:18:18 PM] Sirius 17: or the consequence of it rather
[12:18:25 PM] Wyzard97: This becomes what we call the RMP of +1
[12:18:45 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Particle of Quantum Consciousness'
[12:18:58 PM] Wyzard97: No gravity is coupled to the EMR in the -2
[12:19:42 PM] Sirius 17: i am just trying to figure out why you said the latter could be called the Devil Particle
[12:19:42 PM] Wyzard97: So the 'longrange' interactions have a net quantum spin of -1 and so require a 'mediator' in the RMP
[12:20:21 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, but desribed this countless times in the posts in relatively easy to understand equations
[12:20:42 PM] Sirius 17: well never mind then
[12:20:55 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Devil particle' is the Ess photon gauge you mentioned before
[12:21:09 PM] Wyzard97: Eps=+1 and Ess=-1
[12:21:32 PM] Wyzard97: This is the real origin of the quantum cosmology and does NOT require a HB
[12:21:36 PM] Sirius 17: yes the -1
[12:22:02 PM] Wyzard97: But putting Eps+Ess=God+Devil (say) gives you the HB as 0 spin
[12:22:06 PM] Wyzard97: Easy now?
[12:22:16 PM] Sirius 17: ok that makes sense lol

[12:22:57 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, the point is that the HB came AFTER the radiation gauges of say 'light and darkness' became manifest in a MASSLESS Universe
[12:23:44 PM] Wyzard97: Modern science 'suspects' a fifth gauge to harmonise the gluons, but has not yet made the leap to define this as consciousness
[12:23:53 PM] Sirius 17: but the HB seems to point to supersymmetry as being the key, at least from what I can understand
[12:24:05 PM] Wyzard97: My published paper describes it too, I recall
[12:24:20 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and here you will get confused
[12:24:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes the so called 'dark matter'
[12:24:41 PM] Wyzard97: Because supersymmetry has been more or less found wanting
[12:24:49 PM] Wyzard97: Recall my SUSY post?
[12:24:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[12:25:25 PM] Wyzard97: The supersymmetry is already INBUILT into this spin equation and does not require additional particle agencies
[12:25:59 PM] Wyzard97: I posted on the unnecessity of SUSY many years ago and this was basically verified
[12:26:47 PM] Wyzard97: There is supersymmetry, but this is what I just described in the spin equation: LP+Graviton+Gluon+Weakon+RMP=0=+1-2+1-1+1
[12:27:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember when it was verified and your post on it
[12:28:27 PM] Wyzard97: The Weakon here is a manifestation of MASS AS the suppressed 'Devil Particle'
[12:28:55 PM] Wyzard97: The Weakon for matter is always +1 to neutralise the -1 of the Ess
[12:29:29 PM] Wyzard97: So you see right here, that there is NO Antimatter required
[12:29:44 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes because 0 is attained
[12:30:13 PM] Wyzard97: Because the Weakon for antimatter must always be -1 and so requires a +1 Ess, but this is already made manifest as either the Gluon or the LP

[12:30:43 PM] Wyzard97: This simple stuff here solves one of the greatest 'unsolved' mysteries of the universe
[12:31:31 PM] Wyzard97: But as long as the pundits consider the HB as fundamental, they will bang their heads around regarding the 'missing antimatter' and the 'dark matter'
[12:31:50 PM] Wyzard97: The 'dark matter' is the RMP in quantum terms, solvingb yet another mystery
[12:32:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can see how they might get totally sidetracked with the Higgs
[12:32:33 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130313214031.htm
[12:32:34 PM] Wyzard97: If Susan could understand this stuff and share it around, some heads would begin to mshake
[12:32:36 PM] Sirius 17: look at this
[12:33:44 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, this is the quantum paradox of the MindBody as a Wavicle or Wave-Particle
[12:34:20 PM] Wyzard97: Now you can perhaps see, that Jesus knew this in Logos terms of spirit and flesh or similar stuff
[12:34:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes of course
[12:35:01 PM] Sirius 17: they just published this today as well
[12:35:08 PM] Sirius 17: so interesting timing again
1835 Birth of Giovanni Schiaparelli, the astronomer known for his studies of Mars
1879 Birth of Albert Einstein, one of the most recognisable physicists in history, who originated the theories of relativity and explained the photoelectric effect in terms of quantum mechanics, for which he was awarded the 1921 Nobel Prize

[12:36:51 PM] Sirius 17: lol did you know it was Einsteins birthday today
[12:39:42 PM] Wyzard97: Your way yes, March 14th 1879 - 18 April 1955
[12:43:16 PM] Wyzard97: So nabs idiot FOC shares his birthday with AE lol
[12:43:56 PM] Wyzard97: Like the Queen of England shares hers with AH (Adolf Hitler) as April 19th-20th
[12:44:12 PM] Sirius 17: umm i thought FOC's birthday was the 13th?

[12:44:36 PM] Wyzard97: DD said/copied March 14th
[12:44:55 PM] Sirius 17: oh god your right
[12:45:01 PM] Sirius 17: yuck
[12:46:24 PM] Wyzard97: Well there will be about 7 billion/365~ 19 Million people who do too Raven
[12:46:51 PM] Wyzard97: But he is as deluded as Albert was brilliant nevertheless
[12:48:24 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
[12:48:29 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130314144348.htm
[12:48:33 PM] Sirius 17: this is really facinating
The senior author on the paper, virologist Didier Trono, has been interested in the KRAB/KAP1 system for several years. 350 million years old, it is known to have a role in "silencing" components of the mammalian genome known as retroelements, because they were originally retroviruses that became incorporated into the genetic code of the organisms they infected. "It did such a good job that over the course of evolution it got co-opted to do many other things," Trono says.

[12:50:57 PM] Sirius 17: viruses are remarkable, it seems this modification came about in some kind of virus symbiosis with humans
[12:51:41 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is the epigenesis of the endosymbiosis
[12:52:00 PM] Sirius 17: so the fact we have red blood cells that can uptake oxygen could be the responsibility of a virus
[12:52:06 PM] Wyzard97: One agent becomes absorbed by a host
[12:52:17 PM] Sirius 17: this is so cool
[12:52:36 PM] Wyzard97: Yes viruses carry the original quantum geometry
[12:53:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes and apparently the retroelements became encorporated into our DNA template to produce 'empty' cells with no mitochondria
[12:53:54 PM] Sirius 17: when redblood cells are going through mitosis down though the germline they expell their mitchondria
[12:54:01 PM] Wyzard97: Meaning that the mitochondrial ancestors or precursors were themselves virus related
[12:54:10 PM] Sirius 17: near the time they become almost fully mature
[12:54:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is significant
[12:55:00 PM] Sirius 17: lol maybe HIV is playing some genetic role like this
[[12:57:25 PM] Wyzard97: HIV is a perfect Icosahedron, one of the Platonic Solids, the most complex one
[12:59:23 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130314111851.htm
[12:59:24 PM] Wyzard97: But I will go now Raven, Xeia is online and your exams are over soon for a while
[12:59:27 PM] Sirius 17: this is cool too
[12:59:40 PM] Sirius 17: oh have you been up all day?
[1:00:51 PM] Sirius 17: ok Tony, well take care sweety. Sorry if i kept you awake.
[1:01:00 PM] Wyzard97: I have been for a while yes, chasing this pope agenda
[1:01:24 PM] Sirius 17: hi Xeia
[3:40:17 PM] Wyzard97: I did not feel this straight away, but it dawned
[3:40:38 PM] Wyzard97: to be 'of service'?
[3:40:44 PM] Sirius 17: her pasting of Robert and the Seth stuff was odd
[3:40:54 PM] Sirius 17: and how that relates
[3:41:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes because Set is just the last chart. The sexchange op even-odd Osiris-Set
[3:41:19 PM] Sirius 17: you know Jane channeled Seth, maybe she means to imply that she made room for someone...
[3:41:44 PM] Wyzard97: Seth, as you know is excellent science and utter BS regarding Logos
[3:41:50 PM] Sirius 17: which is weird since she considers possession and all that to be off limits to her line of thinking
[3:41:54 PM] Wyzard97: But Seth says the same here as Ucadia
[3:42:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes i read all the Seth books, they are in my collection
[3:42:32 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus went to India and married MM and did not die. Well Seth says Jesus was subbed
[3:42:44 PM] Sirius 17: i learned a lot from Seth, but I did not like his take on Jesus either
[3:43:03 PM] Sirius 17: he said his death was a mass dream
[3:43:16 PM] Wyzard97: Halfway channel in a clear darkness-light filter
[3:43:51 PM] Wyzard97: Well in a sense it is. But he said a 'madman' took his place
[3:44:11 PM] Wyzard97: There was a remote viewing video made, apparently confirming this
[3:44:19 PM] Wyzard97: I debunked it a while ago
[3:44:36 PM] Sirius 17: Jane was revolutionary for the time though, many fakes took off after her death and made a ton of money. Jane and Robert pretty much were normal middle income people, they never got rich off the publications. You can see from the video how simple they lived.
[3:44:54 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the 'channeling' was clear and good
[3:45:09 PM] Wyzard97: The Jesus data simply was the antilogos
[3:45:15 PM] Sirius 17: and i loved Seth 2
[3:45:22 PM] Sirius 17: he reminded me of Allisiam
[3:45:31 PM] Wyzard97: And meant to be to allow the science data to be correct
[3:45:32 PM] Sirius 17: when he would come in
[3:46:19 PM] Sirius 17: but my mothers friend turned me onto these books way back in the day as i told her of my experience with Allisiam and she was an open minded new age lady
[3:46:31 PM] Sirius 17: i didn't read them until years later
[3:46:36 PM] Wyzard97: Good, something positive
[3:46:42 PM] Sirius 17: could not understand them at 12 years old lol
[3:47:05 PM] Sirius 17: then i met my friend Dan who gave me a copy of creating your own reality
[3:47:20 PM] Sirius 17: but something bothered me about that whole idea
[3:47:31 PM] Sirius 17: in one sense i could create my own reality
[3:47:40 PM] Sirius 17: but i could never translate it to the rest of the world
[3:47:57 PM] Sirius 17: so i knew that there was some BS involved
[3:48:16 PM] Sirius 17: after Seth i became born again
[3:48:27 PM] Wyzard97: Nabs yes in praxis, though the basic concept is valid
[3:48:30 PM] Sirius 17: i am sure my parents thought i was nuts lol
[3:49:06 PM] Wyzard97: You cant do anythin g WITHIN the universe, because you are inside the christ body
[3:49:13 PM] Sirius 17: but i do feel that much of what he said about the multiplicity of the soul was right and how consciousness is alive and within everything
[3:49:21 PM] Wyzard97: But letti9ng Jesus out allows you to cocreate the christ body
[3:49:28 PM] Wyzard97: This is the simplicity of it
[3:49:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes the key
[3:50:11 PM] Wyzard97: So the Nabs morons create their ego timelines and worlds all WITHIN a greater 'kingdom'
[3:50:20 PM] Wyzard97: A world, they often deny
[3:50:34 PM] Wyzard97: Parallel universe BS
[3:51:12 PM] Wyzard97: Accept the greater and your own world CAN become also a greater world
[3:51:21 PM] Wyzard97: Deny the Logos and you become trapped eternally
[3:51:33 PM] Sirius 17: its not a parallel universe it is though infact their higher D nature, i knew this a long time ago, that the world Allsiam showed me was destined to meet this one. It exists like a shadow over this one.
[3:51:52 PM] Wyzard97: Yes true
[3:52:04 PM] Sirius 17: and the funny thing is, this world is the shadow lol
[3:52:15 PM] Sirius 17: like the backdrop
[3:52:20 PM] Sirius 17: platos cave
[3:52:21 PM] Wyzard97: And to be such a shadow, it must become WITHOUT and exposed to a higherD ultimate lightsource
[3:52:43 PM] Wyzard97: So you must release the inner christ
[3:53:01 PM] Wyzard97: If you are waiting for the outer christ, it will never come
[3:53:22 PM] Sirius 17: this is Xeia's frustration i think
[3:53:27 PM] Wyzard97: But the outer christ is the total world and here is your dilemma
[3:53:40 PM] Wyzard97: You must identify as the universe, like your anatomy
[3:53:49 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, she hates the idea
[3:53:55 PM] Wyzard97: Because it is cosmic, yet mentally demanding and requiring discernment and mindful self discipline
[3:54:13 PM] Sirius 17: well i do identify as being all of it and the Julienne part in it
[3:54:18 PM] Sirius 17: but its not enough lol
[3:54:21 PM] Sirius 17: like you
[3:54:32 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I know, but show me who can perceive this way?
[3:54:37 PM] Wyzard97: Some sufis can
[3:54:44 PM] Wyzard97: True gnostics
[3:54:47 PM] Sirius 17: i only know of one and i am talking to him
[3:54:52 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[3:55:05 PM] Wyzard97: There are people like this, a famous sufi
[3:55:07 PM] Sirius 17: i can see me as we as us as them
[3:55:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am sure there is
[3:55:27 PM] Sirius 17: there has to be
[3:56:22 PM] Sirius 17: but this is what happened with you, i recognized you and you triggered a lot of memory in me
[3:56:59 PM] Sirius 17: my soul recognized you from the moment i saw your first post on AV1
[3:57:34 PM] Sirius 17: there are people like us but how many of them recognize each other? how many find each other
[3:58:26 PM] Wyzard97:

Logan Antico:
"Everyone who thinks, must be a philosopher; the human tragedy is, that the ability to think is so grossly underused by some and so arrogantly misused by many others, the latter who often pride themselves in regards to their prowess of using their mind in their presumed applied intelligence."

Robert Sceptico:
"But see what happened to Giordano Bruno, he could be charged guilty of philosophical statements such as: "Mundus Nihil Pulcherrimum - The World is a Beautiful Nothing!"
And what are the scriptural references, which have been used to condemn free spirited thinkers, such as Giordano Bruno, urged from their own spiritual impulses from within to follow the path of insight and to search for experiential 'Union with God' in the form of their 'soul' merging with the 'world-soul' of the unity?

How many people, guilty of 'praying to and seeking communion with the God within' have been tortured and murdered by selfproclaimed 'upholders of God's law' as 'witches' or gnostic heretics, from the Cathars of the Balkans (Bogomils) in the twelfth century to the Albigenses of France in
the thirteenth; when the 'Rule of Catholic Rome' was practically indistinguishable from the 'Holy Roman Empire' of a political Europe's popes, bishops, kings and emperors.
The ignorant application of literal interpretations of scripture are not resticted to Judeo-Christianity alone however.
Consider the Sufi mystic Al-Hallaj who was publically executed in Baghdad in 922BC.
Al-Hallaj had penetrated the exoteric form of islamic interpretation of the Koran and had experienced union with Allah in experiences, which made him proclaim his gnostic insights in statements, condemned by the islamic orthodoxy as blasphemy:

"I am He whom I love, and He whom I love is me.
We are two spirits dwelling in one body.
When thou seest me thou seest Him, and when thou seest Him, thou seest us both."

Sounds like the words of Jesus-Yeshua 950 years later, does it not?:

John.10.30: "I and my Father are one.
John.12.45: "And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me."
John.15.23: "He that hateth me hateth my Father also."
Exodus.22.18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
Leviticus.19.31: "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God."

[3:59:31 PM] Sirius 17: haha yeah
[3:59:40 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
[4:00:59 PM] Sirius 17: so i imagine they killed him
[4:05:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes and the problem also now of getting our cores to understand this, but this is where I do not know the answer, only that this is the power of the Logos. I did not cause myself to be awakened at 8 years old and come to know my higher self....I was a typical little girl, who like Carla, day dreamed my way through school lol
[4:06:58 PM] Sirius 17: Allisiam came to me from within myself but something much greater then my 8 year old mind could dream of
[4:08:09 PM] Sirius 17: and at the time when i was young i did feel like the powers of the universe were in my command, and this seemed natural to me.
[4:08:31 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed and with me it was at 18 as a naive young man suddenly 'seeing' Calvary.
[4:08:33 PM] Sirius 17: of course as skeptisim crept in so did my confidence take a nose dive
[4:09:40 PM] Sirius 17: when i tried to tell my mother she said 'oh thats nice dear, what an over active imagination you have'.
[4:09:52 PM] Sirius 17: nails in the coffin lol
[4:11:14 PM] Sirius 17: and i scared my little friends with my knowing also
[4:11:22 PM] Sirius 17: i never fit in
[4:11:24 PM] Sirius 17: anywhere
[4:11:57 PM] Sirius 17: and so i also told Allisiam to go away
[4:12:26 PM] Sirius 17: because it frightened me how much people hated me
the world was not ready for her
[4:14:22 PM] Sirius 17: i realised though something, she never really left lol
[4:14:45 PM] Sirius 17: just my identification with her did
[4:14:57 PM] Sirius 17: i locked my own door to my higher self

[4:17:48 PM] Sirius 17:

(2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

[4:18:35 PM] Sirius 17: so the first time i saw you share this i knew what had occured in a sense, this was me at 8
[4:19:18 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, it is the same True Logos for everyone, but depends if you can handle the energy in a form of 'innocence'.
[4:19:54 PM] Wyzard97: If not you filter, filter, filter and filter in your biases and belief systems and culturual conditionings.
[4:20:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i was totally innocent then
[4:20:34 PM] Sirius 17: i guess i had some filters but very little
[4:20:53 PM] Sirius 17: i experienced the purity of the gnosis though
[4:20:53 PM] Wyzard97: And the 'tradition' does not matter, like the ashas and xeias believe. The 'heart' is the fiduciary.
[4:21:51 PM] Wyzard97: The sufi 'can get it' as can the Christian or the gnostic or the buddhist. I was Christian traditionalised then and knew nothing of gnosis.
[4:22:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is true
[4:23:46 PM] Sirius 17: well i have followed this inner knowing now all my life and many years ago she told me that i would find what i was seeking
[4:24:56 PM] Sirius 17: it was always myself but at this part of the journey the definition of 'myself' is all encompassing
its sort of comical all the clues she gave me lol
[4:25:53 PM] Sirius 17: comical, ironic, serindipitous.....
[4:28:29 PM] Wyzard97: Serendipity and chancey alright
[4:29:02 PM] Wyzard97: But I must retire now Raven, buenas. I share some of this on the forum
[4:29:19 PM] Sirius 17: ok hon, yes sleep well
[4:29:31 PM] Sirius 17: thank you for keeping me company
[4:29:56 PM] Wyzard97: No problem, if I can keep up with you.
[4:30:11 PM] Sirius 17: lol what do you mean
[4:30:25 PM] Wyzard97: You are pacey!
[4:30:43 PM] Wyzard97: You have a good sponge brain for your age
[4:31:20 PM] Sirius 17: lol yes i am sorry
[4:31:32 PM] Wyzard97: This was a compliment silly
[4:31:40 PM] Sirius 17: thank you
[4:31:50 PM] Wyzard97: It means you are a good 'learner'
[4:32:06 PM] Wyzard97: And teacher too as Doc Raven
[4:33:02 PM] Sirius 17: well i dont know about that lol
[4:34:10 PM] Wyzard97: You know more anatomy than most, including me
[4:34:33 PM] Sirius 17: a bit yes, but its still kindergarten
[4:34:39 PM] Wyzard97: And it will be yours to keep
[4:34:56 PM] Wyzard97: In any world, old and new
[4:35:10 PM] Sirius 17: the science is exploding daily with all the new discoveries, but at least i have a foundation for watching it expand
[4:35:21 PM] Sirius 17: i can fill in the blanks as i go now
[4:36:00 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and a willingness to expand. Most dont have that. They wish to 'delegate' this to the experts
[4:36:22 PM] Wyzard97: So some of us have to accept to have a certain 'expertise'
[4:36:41 PM] Sirius 17: well its a beautiful thing
[4:37:09 PM] Sirius 17: i love intellegence in all forms
[4:37:44 PM] Sirius 17:

25) Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."

[4:37:50 PM] Sirius 17: my eyes
[4:38:02 PM] Sirius 17: are many lol
[4:38:40 PM] Wyzard97: Of course as the 4 universal eyes of Abba with/as Baab
[4:39:11 PM] Wyzard97: The back of your head as your core
[4:39:25 PM] Wyzard97: Janus and all those evil Romans
[4:39:51 PM] Wyzard97: Remus and Romolus
[4:40:09 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging.html
[4:40:16 PM] Sirius 17: i have been reading about this guy
[4:40:20 PM] Sirius 17: i like the way he thinks

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Allisiam - Posted Mar 16th 2013

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  orthodoxymoron wrote:
• I feel very weak and helpless. I'll probably just keep doing what I'm doing -- hoping that things will eventually improve -- even though I know that they won't. Truth-seeking and moralistic-reflection often seems to be an exercise in futility. I'll continue this cold-war -- but I don't expect a happy outcome -- no matter what I do -- and no matter how hard I try.I expect that even my very passive quest will be shut-down at some point in the near future. I'm trying to be on everyone's side -- but just trying to make things better seems to go counter to whatever is being inflicted upon humanity. I continue to suspect that Earth-Humanity will never be allowed to become truly successful and happy. We seem to be sentenced to Purgatory -- with the threat of Hell --and the promise of Heaven -- to motivate us to perform our daily tasks in a somewhat acceptable manner. I keep getting the strong impression that those at the top of the pyramid do NOT want us to figure things out -- and to become all that we are capable of being. I am VERY worried and VERY frightened presently. I'm really tiredof this guessing-game. I'm really tired of wondering how much trouble I'm really in -- at all levels of my existence -- and in all of the various files on me, which are undoubtedly becoming larger by the minute.
  
  
  
  
  
  (24) His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
  
  He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  2 Timothy 2:7 - Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
  
  Corinthians 14:33 - For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
  
  
  
  Matthew 7:21-23
  
  King James Version (KJV)
  
  
  ²¹ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom
  of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
  ²² Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy
  name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many
  wonderful works?
  ²³ And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
  
  Acts 1:18-19 Now this man purchased a field with
  the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the
  midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the
  dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper
  tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.
  
  
  http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3240-archangelic-queens-of-heaven-and-the-united-states-of-the-solar-system
  
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  orthodoxymoron wrote:I feel very weak and helpless. I'll probably just keep doing what I'm doing -- hoping that things will eventually improve -- even though I know that they won't. Truth-seeking and moralistic-reflection often seems to be an exercise in futility. I'll continue this cold-war -- but I don't expect a happy outcome -- no matter what I do -- and no matter how hard I try.I expect that even my very passive quest will be shut-down at some point in the near future. I'm trying to be on everyone's side -- but just trying to make things better seems to go counter to whatever is being inflicted upon humanity. I continue to suspect that Earth-Humanity will never be allowed to become truly successful and happy. We seem to be sentenced to Purgatory -- with the threat of Hell --and the promise of Heaven -- to motivate us to perform our daily tasks in a somewhat acceptable manner. I keep getting the strong impression that those at the top of the pyramid do NOT want us to figure things out -- and to become all that we are capable of being. I am VERY worried and VERY frightened presently. I'm really tired of this guessing-game. I'm really tired of wondering how much trouble I'm really in -- at all levels of my existence -- and in all of the various files on me, which are undoubtedly becoming larger by the minute.
  
  
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  orthodoxymoron wrote:
  
  Well Raven! Things were just starting to get interesting! I really enjoyed our conversation - including the post where you cussed me out! I think I deserved a lot of that - and I took what you said seriously. I actually miss you. You obviously know a helluva lot. I sensed some dark spirituality - but that may go with the territory. I sometimes wondered if you might be the modern incarnation of Kali - or at least a goddess-type of person with some sort of connection to Kali, Mary, the Goddess of This World, or the Queen of Heaven. I'm not a scholar or an experiencer - so I don't really know. I really and truly am an ignoramus. My egotistical posting style is really a cover for my rather substantial insecurities. Sounds kinda sexy - doesn't it?! I actually liked the porno part of all of this! I am more repressed than you can imagine - but I do like to joke around - and I am not easily offended - especially online! In person - things would be entirely different. I suspect that the real Queen of Heaven is highly intelligent and highly refined - yet very, very tough, decisive, harsh, reprobate - and able to swear like a trooper! You'd be amazed at the mental picture I have of the Queen of Heaven! But this is merely a hypothesis and a figment of my diseased imagination. I will probably continue to work with this subject for years - or at least until disclosure occurs. Anyway - regardless of who you really are, Raven - it's been a pleasure. Perhaps we can share a bottle of fine French wine someday! Namaste.
  
  Cheers Oxy!!
  
  
  
  [3:12:05 PM-Sunday, March 17th, 2013-+11UCT]
  Sirius 17: Tony how does this relate to me and James then?
  [3:12:12 PM] Wyzard97: But March 25th will manifest a new dispensation
  [3:12:18 PM] Wyzard97: Same thing
  [3:12:37 PM] Wyzard97: The Cosmic Mother and Cosmic Father blend with the biopartents
  [3:12:53 PM] Wyzard97: You birth your inner and outer christs
  [3:12:53 PM] Sirius 17: its strange i don't feel Rose about, not like before, but my grandmother and grandfather are strong lately
  [3:13:08 PM] Wyzard97: You must be REBORN
  [3:13:35 PM] Wyzard97: Just as Jesus said and this is it not some silly baptism of dogmatists
  [3:13:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes but how?
  [3:13:53 PM] Wyzard97: You rebirth yourself AS Mary Magdalene Raven
  [3:14:18 PM] Wyzard97: You can do this without James
  [3:14:32 PM] Sirius 17: i am not trying
  [3:14:34 PM] Wyzard97: But you cant rebirth yourself externally without him
  [3:14:41 PM] Sirius 17: to do it without him
  [3:14:44 PM] Wyzard97: Internally you can
  [3:15:01 PM] Wyzard97: The external christ daughter becomes the New World made manifest
  [3:15:16 PM] Wyzard97: As is the external christ son
  [3:15:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes i realise that James is like DD in a sense
  [3:15:31 PM] Wyzard97: This then is the 2nd coming and not some other stuff
  [3:15:55 PM] Wyzard97: This chart shows you the template, the equation
  [3:16:01 PM] Wyzard97: It is just an example
  [3:16:07 PM] Wyzard97: People dont get it
  [3:16:25 PM] Wyzard97: DD and James dont matter as personas
  [3:16:36 PM] Wyzard97: What matters is their genetic constitution
  [3:17:00 PM] Wyzard97: Their lineages from the templates of Adam and Eve
  [3:17:12 PM] Wyzard97: But not in physicality but in the evolution
  [3:17:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes i figured
  [3:17:40 PM] Sirius 17: but it seems i hold the body and the mind
  [3:17:42 PM] Sirius 17: lol
  [3:18:16 PM] Wyzard97: I HAVE to use 'my' MI and 'my' Deborah; because this is how I can interpret the energies
  [3:18:39 PM] Wyzard97: This new data came because of how I felt regarding Debbie
  [3:18:50 PM] Wyzard97: You cant deduce this from text books
  [3:19:09 PM] Wyzard97: It is pioneering work and unprecedented
  [3:19:26 PM] Sirius 17: when i was in the shower i was looking at myself from the outside and thinking how i can turn inside out
  [3:19:36 PM] Wyzard97: Yes you are attuned
  [3:19:43 PM] Wyzard97: To what i experience
  [3:19:54 PM] Wyzard97: The mirror witness
  [3:20:01 PM] Wyzard97: The Logos sister
  [3:20:14 PM] Wyzard97: You know that, why you get the flack now
  [3:20:24 PM] Sirius 17: its like pulling the singularity backwards in a way
  [3:20:33 PM] Wyzard97: Jealousies which are not even known as jealousies
  [3:20:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes it makes my heart sad though
  [3:21:03 PM] Wyzard97: Abba wants Baab is the equation, rather simple
  [3:21:18 PM] Wyzard97: Because of their egos
  [3:21:27 PM] Wyzard97: They see our egos as their own
  [3:21:45 PM] Wyzard97: They DONT put JCCJ first
  [3:21:50 PM] Wyzard97: We do
  [3:21:54 PM] Sirius 17: hmm yes true
  [3:21:59 PM] Sirius 17: i did not think of this
  [3:22:11 PM] Wyzard97: Why we are meant to be arrogant relative to human perception
  [3:22:24 PM] Sirius 17: and if they don't see JCCJ first they surely cannot see or understand us
  [3:22:40 PM] Wyzard97: It is JCCJ arrogance we project and defend NOT our own
  [3:22:50 PM] Wyzard97: Now you got it
  [3:23:03 PM] Sirius 17: this is the gate to the new jerusalem, entry is only gained through JCCJ
  [3:23:07 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
  [3:23:23 PM] Wyzard97: Recall the major commandment
  [3:23:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes love thy brother with all your heart
  [3:23:56 PM] Wyzard97: 'Love your God with all your heart and mind and soul and love your neighbour (your own mirror/core) as yourself
  [3:24:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes i shortend it lol
  [3:24:17 PM] Wyzard97: YOUR GOD must come first as your own cosmic superego/id
  [3:24:21 PM] Sirius 17: The golden rule
  [3:24:34 PM] Wyzard97: No fucking false humility in Jesus as there is in say Susan
  [3:24:36 PM] Sirius 17: he does and always has
  [3:24:56 PM] Wyzard97: This is Xeia's ire
  [3:25:05 PM] Wyzard97: HER Logos equal to ours
  [3:25:11 PM] Wyzard97: It is NOT
  [3:25:14 PM] Sirius 17: its not
  [3:25:36 PM] Wyzard97: Because our Logos is NOT human mind created
  [3:25:41 PM] Wyzard97: Hers is
  [3:26:07 PM] Wyzard97: Once Xeia understands the GOT she can begin to say her Logos is cosmic
  [3:26:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see this now, especially in all the nabs groups too, they follow after their own mental creations instead of THE CREATION
  [3:26:33 PM] Wyzard97: She is 'offended' by scripture quotes, which shows her level of nous
  [3:26:41 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
  [3:27:17 PM] Sirius 17: well she really pissed me off in her judgements of you and I
  [3:27:22 PM] Wyzard97: Because if you consider scripture human made, then you can dismiss it
  [3:27:40 PM] Sirius 17: but i guess it is to be expected because of the times
  [3:27:45 PM] Wyzard97: Do I consider E=mc^2 manmade?
  [3:27:48 PM] Sirius 17: she went and got all self rightous again
  [3:27:53 PM] Wyzard97: An old dilemma see
  [3:28:12 PM] Sirius 17: i knew something was up when she didn't talk to me for so long
  [3:28:13 PM] Wyzard97: The ultimate reality is abstract and 2D
  [3:28:39 PM] Wyzard97: Is the world platonic or aristotelian?
  [3:28:46 PM] Sirius 17: when morgan came back actually she dumped him off on me and then i guess got pissed off at what i said to him, i don't know
  [3:28:59 PM] Wyzard97: It is both of course, but in being so, the God must exist
  [3:29:29 PM] Sirius 17: i always knew he existed
  [3:29:43 PM] Sirius 17: never denied that, couldn't if i tried lol
  [3:29:50 PM] Sirius 17: i knew i was not from here
  [3:29:52 PM] Wyzard97: Requiring definition of course, not 'blind belief '
  [3:30:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes and he is defined in the creation spread out before us
  [3:30:37 PM] Sirius 17: elegantly so
  [3:30:47 PM] Sirius 17: so obvious this intelligence of God
  [3:31:19 PM] Sirius 17: did you see that video i shared on starplanet?
  [3:31:27 PM] Sirius 17: the journey through the cell
  [3:31:35 PM] Sirius 17: omg its remarkable
  [3:31:41 PM] Wyzard97: Well once you know what 'God' is, then you can understand how this universe works
  [3:32:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes even Einstein knew
  [3:32:10 PM] Wyzard97: micro-macro and the self evolution of all of it in the parts being the whole
  [3:33:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes this video shows a lot of that too
  [3:33:17 PM] Sirius 17: doubt anyone watched it though
  [3:33:29 PM] Wyzard97: Every single cell you see IS a galaxy 'out there'
  [3:33:37 PM] Sirius 17: James is too busy scoping the nabs forums on Keshe
  [3:33:44 PM] Wyzard97: Oh dear nabs ok
  [3:34:02 PM] Sirius 17: you would love this video
  [3:34:28 PM] Sirius 17: [Saturday, 16 March 2013 11:39 AM] Sirius 17:
  <<< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz7agFqI7iE
  This is a graphically very accurate depiction of the inner workings of the cell. They created this video using what science has discovered and CGI...its really facinating.watch it when you have time
  [3:35:00 PM] Sirius 17: the renditions of the inner workings of the cell and how the first cell was born
  [3:35:11 PM] Sirius 17: endosymbosis
  [3:35:40 PM] Sirius 17: this video goes through the viral war that is waged in your body though and how they evolved along side cells
  [3:35:52 PM] Sirius 17: viruses are just old cell reminents
  [3:36:21 PM] Sirius 17: almost like the orignal programming of sorts
  [3:36:21 PM] Wyzard97: Well I remember in the early 1980's when endosymbiosis was 'controversial' and called fringe science by some 'experts'
  [3:36:32 PM] Wyzard97: Lynn Margulis and Dorian sagan
  [3:36:36 PM] Wyzard97: Boston
  [3:36:54 PM] Sirius 17: this is how they can get into the nucleus though, the nucleus recognizes them
  [3:37:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes as we said the other day and this will eventually lead the 'experts' to understand where 'Life came from'
  [3:37:36 PM] Wyzard97: Quantum Geometric Induction of magnetocharge
  [3:38:00 PM] Sirius 17: but it got me thinking that the viruses cannot replicate without life and it does seem that the more science knows about them the more they are actually helping us
  [3:38:11 PM] Wyzard97: This derives from the weak interaction in the nuclear physics (radioactivity) magnifying in the biology
  [3:38:11 PM] Sirius 17: they helped us to evolve
  [3:38:38 PM] Wyzard97: Yes they are the geometries and forms the multiorganisms use
  [3:38:56 PM] Sirius 17: they have DNA see, but no way to reproduce it without a living cell
  [3:38:59 PM] Sirius 17: micro programs
  [3:39:17 PM] Sirius 17: they are not alive but they are not dead either
  [3:39:25 PM] Sirius 17: high strangeness
  [3:39:27 PM] Wyzard97: More elementary in that the form defines the 'container' for the biochemistry
  [3:39:41 PM] Wyzard97: You are too technical here
  [3:40:06 PM] Wyzard97: There is a nonparity and assymetry in the nuclear physics
  [3:40:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes sorry i just get excited
  [3:40:20 PM] Wyzard97: This becomes a way for nature to seek reharmonisation
  [3:40:45 PM] Wyzard97: This is the Fibonacci series
  [3:41:06 PM] Wyzard97: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8... etc MISSING the 4 and 6 and 7 and 9 etc
  [3:41:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes the hidden template of organizational patterns
  [3:41:30 PM] Wyzard97: It all comes from this in the nature of life and physical creation
  [3:43:01 PM] Wyzard97: To contain the data in a form, the geometric solids evolve from symmetry
  [3:43:13 PM] Wyzard97: This is why Virus data is so geometric and bacteria and eukaryotes are lesser so
  [3:43:43 PM] Wyzard97: The imperfection becomes the reharmonisation
  [3:43:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  [3:44:06 PM] Sirius 17: they are very geometrical
  [3:44:25 PM] Wyzard97: The most pertinent example is fivefolded symmetry in Penrose tiles the Curtis dna helix and shechtmanite quasicrystals
  [3:44:45 PM] Sirius 17: in this video they look like ETs
  [3:44:53 PM] Sirius 17: little spaceships inside the cell
  [3:45:41 PM] Wyzard97: This video is not available in your country -lol
  [3:45:47 PM] Wyzard97: But I know
  [3:46:42 PM] Sirius 17: oh damn
  [3:47:40 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cHEZRVofzE
  [3:47:41 PM] Sirius 17: try this one
  [3:48:01 PM] Wyzard97: Same thing
  [3:48:13 PM] Sirius 17: shit well its BBC
  [3:48:13 PM] Wyzard97: discovery channel is copyrighted there
  [3:50:42 PM] Sirius 17: http://secret-universe.co.uk/extracellular-matrix
  [3:50:50 PM] Sirius 17: well this is their website
  [3:50:53 PM] Sirius 17: fuck
  [3:50:59 PM] Sirius 17: how can we find you a copy to see
  [3:52:45 PM] Sirius 17: http://ttp://vimeo.com/52177048
  [3:52:47 PM] Sirius 17: try this
  [3:52:59 PM] Wyzard97: Yes you see the quantum geometry here clearly
  [3:53:32 PM] Wyzard97: yes put this one on spruz with your post
  [3:54:08 PM] Wyzard97: Embed under videos and after it is in videos copy paste onto your post
  [3:55:31 PM] Sirius 17: the vimeo one?
  [3:55:41 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
  [3:55:46 PM] Sirius 17: will it embed?
  [3:55:50 PM] Wyzard97: I try embed code on html code
  [3:57:18 PM] Sirius 17: stupid firefox
  [3:57:22 PM] Sirius 17: it won't let me
  [3:57:24 PM] Wyzard97: I did it
  [3:57:28 PM] Sirius 17: only takes youtube videos
  [3:58:09 PM] Sirius 17: you did? on spruz or mists?
  [3:59:44 PM] Wyzard97: spruz
  [4:00:09 PM] Wyzard97: to share on moa you must use the pink AA and paste
  [4:00:28 PM] Sirius 17: oh i don't see it
  [4:00:35 PM] Sirius 17: where did you put it?
  [4:00:40 PM] Wyzard97: They might not use vimeo
  [4:00:47 PM] Wyzard97: It is on spruz videos
  [4:01:42 PM] Sirius 17: oh i thought you were going to put it under my oxy post
  [4:01:52 PM] Sirius 17: thats where i tried to put it
  [4:02:19 PM] Wyzard97: I did on spruz look again
  [4:03:20 PM] Sirius 17: can you make it bigger?
  [4:03:36 PM] Wyzard97: Dont know
  [4:06:16 PM] Wyzard97: I added the link, but MOA does not like vimeo and silly merc has disabled html
  [4:06:24 PM] Wyzard97: It would work if html is enabled
  [4:08:00 PM] Wyzard97: I made it bigger on spruz
  [4:08:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes i just discovered this
  [4:10:16 PM] Sirius 17: my silly car cost me $1000 today
  [4:10:39 PM] Wyzard97: This says 120 Trillion cells this fits into my calculus of 8x62.5 Trillion=500 Trillion cells as the frequency of orange light in lightspeed invariance
  [4:10:48 PM] Sirius 17: the mechanics up here apparently get $90 an hour
  [4:11:14 PM] Wyzard97: 500 Trillion Hz x 6000 Angstroems = 300,000 km per second
  [4:11:16 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes i thought this number might work
  [4:11:37 PM] Wyzard97: 8x62.5=4x125=2x250=500 and 500 Starcoulomb is the definition of the LP or Lovephoton
  [4:12:58 PM] Wyzard97: The 'God Particle' frequency as 3 thousand million billion trillion Hz
  [4:13:17 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Devil Particle' has this frequency inverted
  [4:13:34 PM] Sirius 17: yes why we die
  [4:14:18 PM] Wyzard97: If you want this video to be more clear give the spruz link
  [4:14:26 PM] Wyzard97: I mean on Moa
  [4:14:59 PM] Sirius 17: well the youtube video is in HD
  [4:15:15 PM] Sirius 17: silly vimeo people didn't seem to use the HD version
  btw the animation in this video is what they have seen under microscope, it is anotomically correct
  [4:40:30 PM] Sirius 17: hehe enjoying that video i guess
  [4:45:57 PM] Wyzard97: I put some comments with your post
  [4:46:15 PM] Wyzard97: But will leave it at that
  [4:53:40 PM] Sirius 17: gah you want to fan the flames higher lol
  [4:53:59 PM] Wyzard97: ?
  [4:54:21 PM] Wyzard97: This is just a record of those video numbers and some background
  [4:54:37 PM] Wyzard97: I dont care about personas anymore
  [4:54:51 PM] Wyzard97: People can hate me as much as they wish
  [4:55:04 PM] Wyzard97: I left the first parts out
  [4:55:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes i guess it doesn't matter what they think anyhow
  [4:56:45 PM] Wyzard97: Nope
  [4:57:01 PM] Wyzard97: I wont post much at all anymore
  [4:57:18 PM] Sirius 17: they never read it anyhow
  [4:57:22 PM] Wyzard97: Nope
  [4:57:48 PM] Wyzard97: It serves more as a selfremembrance of previous info published
  [4:57:56 PM] Sirius 17: like oxy today, i dont even know if he watched the video or read the scripture
  [4:58:05 PM] Sirius 17: seemed he glanced at it
  [4:58:14 PM] Wyzard97: So I recall the 62.5 because of your video and then all this interrelates
  [4:58:35 PM] Sirius 17: you enjoying the video?
  [4:58:38 PM] Wyzard97: This is why i put some convos up as evidence of the overall cohesion
  [4:59:02 PM] Wyzard97: I have not watched it fully but knew for a long time what this looks like'
  [4:59:10 PM] Sirius 17: i mean its pretty good overall and it shows just how vast the microscopic world is and a universe in itself, how the micro and macro relate
  [4:59:32 PM] Wyzard97: The better science tech gets, the more will they find the validation of what I said 20 years ago
  [4:59:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  [5:00:10 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and I understand this from the abstract level of the quantum geometry in 2D
  [5:00:11 PM] Sirius 17: they have some pretty powerful ways to look inside the cell now even down to the atomic level
  [5:00:20 PM] Wyzard97: The Moebius plane is just that
  [5:00:24 PM] Wyzard97: The manifold folding
  [5:01:17 PM] Sirius 17: i saw all the DNA in there swimming around though and it made me think of strings in quantum mechanics lol
  [5:01:34 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and those strings are volumar branes in 12D
  [5:01:55 PM] Wyzard97: Reducing to 3D looking shapes from the holographic mapping
  [5:02:31 PM] Wyzard97: The magnetocharges of 12D manifesting as electrocharges
  [5:02:49 PM] Wyzard97: Using 12=1+2=3
  [5:03:07 PM] Wyzard97: Or 3+9=12. This they call the 'brane bulk'
  [5:03:08 PM] Sirius 17: they even have seen the ATP pumps on the mitochondria and they are like little ratchets spinning furiously fast and creating the ATP, mini turbines
  [5:03:27 PM] Wyzard97: Nanotech yes
  [5:03:35 PM] Sirius 17: this is what it looks like
  [5:03:48 PM] Sirius 17: for real though, the body is an incredible machine
  [5:04:01 PM] Wyzard97: The Information Pathway via the nexus frequencies in the spectrums
  [5:04:34 PM] Wyzard97: The TLTR post on Quagecoms describes all this so 10 years ago
  [5:04:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember that post
  [5:05:09 PM] Sirius 17: this is the stuff they are discovering now
  [5:05:11 PM] Wyzard97: Well it is validated by this video
  [5:05:34 PM] Wyzard97: Rydberg spectra
  [5:06:32 PM] Wyzard97: UV unification in blue stars at 180 nanometers and the infrared window in the atmosphere at 9 microns and the optical unification at the orange light wavelength at 6000 Angstroems up to the LP frequency at the Big Bang wormhole wavelength
  [5:07:15 PM] Wyzard97: The triple alpha finestructure in the electromagnetic constant and the Bohr Hydrogen and the Rydberg constant
  [5:12:33 PM] Sirius 17: this website is pretty cool too, you can interactively explore the cell and read about the parts
  [5:15:46 PM] Sirius 17: It is a wonder of evolution that the 40 genes contained within this relatively small length of DNA can override the functioning of the entire human genome - but once it is inside our nucleus, that is exactly what it does. By utilising the army of molecular machines that transcribe and copy our DNA, it turns our cells from healthy functioning units of life into a factory for building a new army of viral clones.
  
  [5:15:52 PM] Sirius 17: here is something interesting
  [5:16:02 PM] Sirius 17: the virus has 40 genes
  [5:16:23 PM] Sirius 17: thats all it takes to take over a cells DNA factory
  [5:23:17 PM] Wyzard97: The 'minimum size' for the data encoding nucleotide is thought to be in the 25nm range
  [5:23:56 PM] Wyzard97: A HIV virus is about 200 nm long and so you have the 8 nucleotidal bits approximately
  [5:24:49 PM] Wyzard97: This means that a gene is so 5nm in characteristic scale then
  [5:25:27 PM] Wyzard97: This then correlates with the nanotechnology in computers and microrobotics
  [5:25:57 PM] Wyzard97: With laser lambdas in the 100 nm range for computer chips and so on
  [5:26:29 PM] Wyzard97: But I am no expert here, but this is part of the quagecom pathway
  [5:27:11 PM] Wyzard97: Remember the microbaceria 'controversies' in academia and the 'martian microbes' etc?
  [5:27:32 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
  [5:27:49 PM] Wyzard97: All this relates to those minimum 'packing sizes' of nucleotidal genetic bits collecting to hold enough data to form a 'living organism'
  [5:27:54 PM] Sirius 17: well they are using DNA as a library now, its a storage device
  [5:28:04 PM] Wyzard97: Well logically
  [5:28:40 PM] Wyzard97: Why there is so much 'junk', which serves as 'memory' and so is no junk
  [5:29:09 PM] Wyzard97: Natural Quantum computing in parallel processing capacities
  [5:30:39 PM] Sirius 17: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2013/01/24/data-storage-in-dna-becomes-a-reality/#.UUVi8FeFkSk
  
  
  Data Storage in DNA Becomes a Reality
  
  By Breanna Draxler | January 24, 2013 3:18 pm
  
  Genetic and binary code. Image courtesy of artida / shutterstock
  
  
  DNA is the building block of life, but in the future it may also be the standard repository for encyclopedias, music and other digital data. Scientists announced yesterday that they successfully converted 739 kilobytes of hard drive data in genetic code and then retrieved the content with 100 percent accuracy.
  The researchers began with the computer files from some notable cultural highlights: an audio recording of MLK Jr.’s 1963 “I Have a Dream” speech, all 154 of Shakespeare’s sonnets, and, appropriately, a copy of Watson and Crick’s original research paper describing DNA’s double helix structure. On a hard drive, these files are stored as a series of zeros and ones. The researchers worked out a system to translate the binary code into one with four characters instead: A, C, G and T. They used this genetic code to synthesize actual strands of DNA with the content embedded in its very structure.
  The ouput was actually pretty unimpressive: just a smidgeon of stuff barely visible at the bottom of a test tube. The wow factor arose when they reversed the process. The researchers sequenced the genome of the data-laden DNA and translated it back into zeros and ones. The result was a re-creation of the original content without a single error, according to the results published in Nature on Wednesday.
  So what does DNA offer that other data storage methods don’t? One, it can pack data really densely. A single gram of DNA holds more than a million CDs, according to the researchers. Two, DNA lasts a really long time in a range of conditions. It is not nearly as sensitive or fragile as existing data centers. Three, DNA has a reputation for safely storing information: It holds the history of all life on Earth, a tough resumé to top.
  This is not the first time DNA has been used to store data, but the latest iteration is far more efficient, accurate and scale-able than its predecessors. The method would be especially useful for archives that need to be stored long-term without frequent access, acting as an emergency backup rather than a practical replacement for your flash drive.
  The thing holding the technology back at this point is the cost. Sequencing and especially synthesizing the DNA is a pricey process, but like most new technologies, it is getting cheaper fast. The researchers say DNA data storage could be a large-scale solution as soon as 2023.
  [5:34:56 PM] Wyzard97: I added this to your post
  [5:35:21 PM] Wyzard97: The internal ET technology remade by human technology
  [5:35:26 PM] Sirius 17: http://news.discovery.com/videos/dna-data-storage-your-genetic-material-is-a-hard-drive.htm
  [5:35:33 PM] Sirius 17: dont know if you can see this video
  [5:36:16 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
  [5:38:12 PM] Sirius 17: and i dont know how old this video is but the cost of sequencing has come way down
  [5:38:28 PM] Sirius 17: they can sequence the entire genome now for around $1000
  [5:38:37 PM] Sirius 17: because of new PCR techniques
  [5:39:12 PM] Wyzard97: Well, you are more cutting edge, than me here. I am getting tired of it all actually
  [5:39:24 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/510246/why-dna-will-someday-replace-the-hard-drive/
  [5:39:52 PM] Sirius 17: well i discovered all this stuff going to school
  [5:39:57 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is all ET technology, not the moronic nabs stuff of Keshe and the humbug Moa posts
  [5:40:03 PM] Sirius 17: researching around about DNA lol
  [5:40:25 PM] Sirius 17: amazing what you can find in the science world
  [5:40:39 PM] Sirius 17: but the discoveries are going bonkers now
  [5:40:51 PM] Sirius 17: its like they have reached some kind of critical mass
  [5:41:23 PM] Wyzard97: It did December 21st. Recall the Black Holed 4D Earth turned inside out from data basorber to data emitter
  [5:41:26 PM] Sirius 17: why this Aubry De Grey guy can be so positive about curing aging and such, he has seen biology from an engineering viewpoint
  [5:41:43 PM] Wyzard97: But do the 'clever nabs morons' listen?
  [5:41:44 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
  [5:41:59 PM] Sirius 17: no and they are missing out on all this
  [5:42:13 PM] Sirius 17: science is learning mind blowing things daily
  [5:42:23 PM] Wyzard97: No they construct bases on Mars and Keshe gimmicks and Ucadian laws of good heavens and evil hells
  
  [5:42:59 PM] Sirius 17: anyhow De Grey has amassed quite a foundation and is bringing the whole scientific community together and showing them how to network
  [5:43:29 PM] Sirius 17: he is funding fast track projects over the slow shit
  [5:43:55 PM] Sirius 17: he saw the problem and said, well fuck lets fix it here we go
  [5:44:34 PM] Wyzard97: Good luck to him
  [5:44:37 PM] Sirius 17: but his theory is very interesting and how we can all live to 1000 or more with the tech once they have it
  [5:44:45 PM] Sirius 17: he calls it escape velocity
  [5:45:20 PM] Wyzard97: This tech then would relate to some natural process ending the telomerase depletion and also relate to the atomic reconfiguration of the 'resurrection'
  [5:45:38 PM] Sirius 17: but don't you see this is new world stuff, scientists working together to solve the problem, this kind of cooperation was unheard of in previous years
  [5:45:40 PM] Wyzard97: Escape Velocity ultimately becomes Black Hole parametric
  [5:45:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes ye
  [5:45:52 PM] Wyzard97: So this is the dimensional extension
  [5:45:56 PM] Sirius 17: he is working on telomeres and all that
  [5:46:19 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and what are telomeres?
  [5:46:25 PM] Sirius 17: he has scientists all over the world working on the core problems
  [5:46:31 PM] Wyzard97: They are geometric add-ons. See the drift?
  [5:46:34 PM] Sirius 17: right lol
  [5:46:53 PM] Sirius 17: well so far they have sucessfully grown them longer in labs
  [5:47:06 PM] Sirius 17: they are working on mice atm
  
  [5:47:24 PM] Wyzard97: Well the scientists, all of them, are under 'papal control' and have sworn 'allegiance' to the 'evil lords', reptilian or otherwise
  [5:47:56 PM] Sirius 17: if they increase their longivity then it translates to us because he is working on problems that have to do with the oxidative aging process, it happens to all creatures
  [5:48:00 PM] Wyzard97: So is this a ptb agenda or a 'real new age' pioneering effort?
  [5:48:21 PM] Sirius 17: oh god are you going all conspiracy on me now lol
  [5:49:22 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sens.org/research/introduction-to-sens-research
  
  [5:49:25 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and Oxygen was toxix 3 billion years ago, but allowed the cellular evolution from the primoridial elements a billion years later and then Oxygen became the agent to allow water based unicellulars to become terrestrial with lung capacity
  [5:49:30 PM] Sirius 17: here are the targets down in the chart
  [5:49:49 PM] Wyzard97: You are really into this Raven. I am not
  [5:50:29 PM] Wyzard97: It will take another 20 years for any of this to become 'available' to the people and by then it will be far too late
  [5:50:34 PM] Sirius 17:
  
  The specific metabolic processes that are ultimately responsible for causing all of this damage are still only partially understood. The good news is that we don’t need to answer the many open questions about the causes of structural decay in order to develop effective therapies to reverse it. No matter what caused a given unit of damage in the first place, the same regenerative therapeutics can be used to repair it. In other words, it doesn’t matter how a given microscopic lesion occurred, if we apply rejuvenation biotechnologies that restore the machinery of life to proper working order,
  The even better news is that we now understand how to fix all of this damage. For each major class of aging damage, a strategy for its removal or repair either already exists in prototype form, or is foreseeable from existing scientific developments: see the specific “Rejuvenation Biotechnology” listed for each kind of aging damage in the Table, and the right-hand navigation bar above.
  
  [5:50:56 PM] Sirius 17: well this guy is on fire, he is trying to get them to hurry the hell up
  [5:50:58 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, so ask him to 'fix' my HSP
  [5:51:17 PM] Wyzard97: I always knew all this can be 'cured'
  [5:51:23 PM] Sirius 17: he would if he could and the science he is working on will likely repair it
  [5:51:34 PM] Wyzard97: In 20 years dear
  [5:51:46 PM] Sirius 17: he is going right to the core though, the cure
  [5:51:55 PM] Sirius 17: like he says above
  [5:52:06 PM] Wyzard97: When there will be no more pachyderms or cetaceons or rain forests
  [5:52:07 PM] Sirius 17: why focus on what causes disease lets just fucking cure it
  [5:53:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes well if your still alive then these therapys will likely be able to regenerate you
  [5:53:33 PM] Sirius 17: and it could be faster BECAUSE the logos is here
  [5:53:52 PM] Sirius 17: speeding things up
  [5:54:45 PM] Wyzard97: Perhaps
  [5:54:48 PM] Sirius 17: anyhow i can see that this guy is a true humanitarian and in the right place in his heart, why he was given this vision
  [5:54:58 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I see this too
  [5:55:14 PM] Wyzard97: But I am not as excited over human ingenuity as you are
  [5:55:43 PM] Sirius 17: his story is kind of funny too, he married a geneticist and he was an engineer and in his love for her he strove to understand biology
  [5:55:53 PM] Wyzard97: Unless you change the 'power structures', all this is utopian, albeit scientifically validated and achievable
  [5:55:57 PM] Sirius 17: he went back and studied it all and redid his major
  [5:56:00 PM] Sirius 17: lol
  [5:56:19 PM] Sirius 17: and he saw the problem right away
  [5:56:36 PM] Sirius 17: because of his engineer mind he was able to see a solution to it
  
  [5:56:37 PM] Wyzard97: Eliminate the money stream and the bankers and you can start the new world without ETs
  [5:57:03 PM] Sirius 17: but he had to teach himself molecular biology at a very deep level
  [5:57:16 PM] Sirius 17: it wasn't even his interest lol
  [5:57:32 PM] Sirius 17: kind of a serendipitious thing really
  [5:57:48 PM] Sirius 17: but yes and i think he would agree
  [5:57:53 PM] Sirius 17: the money is BS
  [5:58:03 PM] Sirius 17: its slowing everything down
  [5:58:05 PM] Wyzard97: Well he is older than this Jacob math genius and so should not succumb to peer pressure and the like if he is 'inspired'
  [5:58:27 PM] Sirius 17: no he did all this on his own and started the foundation
  [5:58:31 PM] Sirius 17: got funding
  [5:58:41 PM] Sirius 17: from governments and private rich people
  [5:59:01 PM] Sirius 17: he is not a nabs artist
  [5:59:19 PM] Sirius 17: they are doing millions in research and this guy lives very simply like a hippie
  [5:59:26 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, it could be genuine philantrophy then, if some rich people support him
  [5:59:29 PM] Sirius 17: all the money goes to research
  [6:00:07 PM] Sirius 17: but its people like him that will help change things
  [6:00:13 PM] Sirius 17: his ideas are revolutionary
  [6:00:21 PM] Wyzard97: It might be part of the New World then Raven with us or without us
  [6:00:37 PM] Sirius 17: well i think so hon
  [6:00:53 PM] Wyzard97: The 'true God' is not existing in a vacuum like the nabs idiots believe
  [6:01:14 PM] Sirius 17: no he is right here with us
  [6:01:17 PM] Sirius 17: in everything
  [6:01:25 PM] Wyzard97: I mean academia and the 'evil religions' etc are all part of 'The All' too
  [6:01:35 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
  [6:01:44 PM] Sirius 17: creator lost in his own creation
  [6:01:49 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed
  [6:01:52 PM] Sirius 17: but heshe is waking up
  [6:02:10 PM] Sirius 17: becoming aware of itself within creation
  [6:02:17 PM] Sirius 17: instead of outside of it
  [6:02:26 PM] Wyzard97: As the femaleness being without the maleness and the inner maleness masquerading as the 'cosmic truth'
  [6:02:38 PM] Wyzard97: Yes you got this
  [6:03:03 PM] Sirius 17: so no matter what anyone says, this is happening
  [6:03:15 PM] Wyzard97: 'The All' as a physical reality is femme. This asha got right in basics but wrong in continuity
  [6:03:32 PM] Sirius 17: might be slower then what some people want, but i feel it will snowball quite rapidly
  [6:03:57 PM] Wyzard97: We can hope
  [6:04:25 PM] Sirius 17: i mean look 20 years ago how people percieved gay people, and 50 years ago people of color....times are changing
  [6:04:34 PM] Sirius 17: the prejudice is falling away
  [6:04:58 PM] Sirius 17: as the world becomes globally interconnected
  [6:05:05 PM] Sirius 17: the internet, while artificial, is the secret
  [6:05:38 PM] Sirius 17: its 3-D fact of higher d communication
  [6:05:44 PM] Sirius 17: even in its infancy
  [6:06:16 PM] Sirius 17: it could not of come about if it were not already part of the higher d matrix
  [6:06:22 PM] Sirius 17: its all so real
  [6:06:31 PM] Sirius 17: people don't see this
  [6:07:25 PM] Sirius 17: and the bible is there as the singularity and it is now available to anyone connected
  [6:07:33 PM] Sirius 17: alpha and omega
  [6:08:16 PM] Sirius 17: i feel the work we all did unlocked something incredible
  [6:08:32 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is the meaning of Jesus saying that the 'gospel of the kingdom' must be preached in all nations, before the end can come
  [6:08:59 PM] Wyzard97: The internet and the social media
  [6:09:12 PM] Wyzard97: No missionaries to the 'natives'
  [6:09:23 PM] Sirius 17: the future is recreating the past
  [6:09:35 PM] Wyzard97: Well a different kind of 'missionaries' I would say
  [6:10:14 PM] Sirius 17: the natives already know i feel
  [6:10:24 PM] Sirius 17: they know mother
  [6:10:41 PM] Sirius 17: and have that closeness with Gaia
  [6:11:30 PM] Sirius 17: at least speaking of the ones who have not had much outside influence from the world anyhow and its BS
  [6:11:38 PM] Sirius 17: they are pure
  [6:12:32 PM] Sirius 17: lol i have a massive headach
  [6:12:56 PM] Sirius 17: my head is exploding with connections
  [6:13:08 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I gotta go too. Take care for the end of your course now and try to relax
  [6:13:38 PM] Wyzard97: You are beginning to see the overall creative purpose, I feel
  [6:13:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will devote tomorrow for review and go take my final monday
  [6:13:45 PM] Wyzard97: The Allness
  [6:14:05 PM] Wyzard97: Once you do, you can leave the silly human mindedness behind
  [6:14:18 PM] Wyzard97: You think bigger
  [6:14:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes i pretty much have left it behind
  [6:14:42 PM] Wyzard97: You see and understand, even partially what 'God' must be and only 'Can Be'
  [6:15:09 PM] Wyzard97: This Jesus did and this is why he became 'arrogant'
  [6:15:30 PM] Sirius 17: well i would rather be 'arrogant' then ignorant
  [6:15:48 PM] Sirius 17: the ignorance has deadly consequences
  [6:15:49 PM] Wyzard97:
  
  These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.
  (1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
  (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
  
  [6:15:57 PM] Wyzard97: It says it right at the start
  [6:16:28 PM] Wyzard97: So to 'become astonished' is to become 'arrogant' in human value judgements
  [6:17:07 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i always thought to myself that it is not logical that creation is somehow separate from the creator, it makes no sense to me, never did
  [6:17:52 PM] Sirius 17: it is all interconnected
  [6:18:41 PM] Sirius 17: lol yeah and to understand also means we are parrots in the minds of some
  [6:18:57 PM] Sirius 17: but this is it Tony, this is the resonance that is the life force
  [6:19:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and once you understand this from the heart AND the mind in the Feeling Mind and the Thinking Heart, you can read the GOT and not before
  [6:19:48 PM] Sirius 17: all those cells....look how they work together to build our bodies and their is no conflict there, they just live naturally and do what they are meant to do
  
  [6:20:04 PM] Wyzard97: Nabsers pride themselves on their 'feeling hearts' which deceive them very easily and the book skeptics pride themselves on their 'thinking minds' which do the same the other way around
  [6:20:46 PM] Wyzard97: Parrots of Abba and Baab are the true ambassadors of the cosmos, including all ETs as Cosmic Family
  [6:20:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes and books are evil to some, learning is discouraged
  [6:20:52 PM] Sirius 17: spat on
  [6:21:18 PM] Wyzard97: Not many humans can dig this as yet, preferring money and weapons to the creative morphologies
  [6:21:50 PM] Sirius 17: i would not of been able to make all these connections if i lacked the desire to know, to learn, to define it all for myself
  [6:22:37 PM] Sirius 17: science and education are frameworks for understanding, how can the nabs people be so stupid to not see this?
  [6:23:27 PM] Wyzard97: Well they are the ones trapped in their own human vanities, then often masquerading as 'humbleness' of their ignorance and laziness to think things through AND correlating their thoughts with their feelings
  [6:23:43 PM] Sirius 17: how long do you have to sit crosslegged in your bedroom before you realise that yeah your happy, but what about the rest of the world around you? what about what is outside of you?
  [6:24:14 PM] Sirius 17: you cannot be connected to it all in separation like that
  [6:24:18 PM] Sirius 17: its not logical
  [6:24:51 PM] Sirius 17: its narsicist to the ultimate degree
  [6:25:08 PM] Sirius 17: to deny what is before you
  [6:25:13 PM] Sirius 17: all around you
  [6:25:19 PM] Wyzard97: Nirvana Nabs like moabytes' devakas, who seems to have gone to her gurus
  [6:25:22 PM] Sirius 17: ??? never got that shit
  [6:25:37 PM] Wyzard97: And DD gone to FOC
  [6:25:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes it makes you want to scream
  [6:26:22 PM] Wyzard97: As they have ignored Logos dispensations, so they shall be ignored by the Logos
  [6:26:33 PM] Sirius 17: but this is a Logos problem, i realise that and I trust that it has taken over
  [6:27:20 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it has since February 19th as Thuban Elders. It continues templating though and the individualised forms of the blueprints have only just begun
  [6:27:59 PM] Sirius 17:
  
  (24) His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
  He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."
  
  [6:28:06 PM] Sirius 17: this is what we should focus on i feel
  [6:28:20 PM] Sirius 17: just keep shining in the damn dark
  [6:28:24 PM] Sirius 17: like we always have
  [6:29:17 PM] Sirius 17: but collectively it grows brighter each day
  [6:29:28 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know how i know this but i do
  [6:30:20 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I agree. The science discoveries are all part of the 'golfball' inversion at the center of the earth of December 21st
  [6:30:48 PM] Wyzard97: But did anyone 'take this data to heart'? It was just data, yet got bundled with the Nabs crap
  [6:31:15 PM] Sirius 17:
  
  (50) Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where did you come from?', say to them, 'We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it you?', say, 'We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' If they ask you, 'What is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, 'It is movement and repose.'"
  
  [6:31:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes got bundled with Susan's 50 daily posts
  [6:31:49 PM] Sirius 17:
  
  (83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."
  
  [6:31:52 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the relative dynamics of Baab in BodyMind relative to the stasis of Abba as a MindBody
  [6:31:57 PM] Sirius 17: been thinking about 83 a lot lately
  [6:32:24 PM] Wyzard97: 83=GNOSIS=WISDOM=CATHERINE
  [6:32:32 PM] Sirius 17: lol
  [6:32:47 PM] Wyzard97: 38=NOAH=ALPHA=BRIDE
  
  [6:33:19 PM] Sirius 17:
  
  (38) Jesus said, "Many times have you desired to hear these words which I am saying to you, and you have no one else to hear them from. There will be days when you will look for me and will not find me."
  
  [6:33:31 PM] Sirius 17: haha
  [6:33:33 PM] Wyzard97: 38+50=83+5=88 with 50=LION=SNAKE=ARACHNE=CIRCLE=PAUL
  [6:34:03 PM] Sirius 17: blind people have no idea where to look for Jesus
  [6:34:15 PM] Wyzard97: The 5 are the 'five trees in paradise' as one of many links
  [6:34:18 PM] Sirius 17: can't see what is in front of them
  [6:34:32 PM] Wyzard97: Also the five platonics
  [6:34:43 PM] Wyzard97: The five superstring classes
  [6:34:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes my roulette dream Rose gave me lol
  [6:35:12 PM] Wyzard97: The first Fibonacci number skipping a lower number in 0,1,1,2,3,5
  [6:35:28 PM] Wyzard97: So the 5 'invariant trees' are 0,1,1,2,3
  
  Or in binary stringform: 01110101
  [6:38:26 PM] Sirius 17: [6:35 PM] Wyzard97:
  <<< Or in binary stringform: 01110101U
  
  [6:39:15 PM] Sirius 17: lol did you know that
  [6:39:26 PM] Sirius 17: i ran it through a binary decoder
  [6:40:06 PM] Wyzard97: Easy 2=10 and 3=11 and 4=100 and 5=101 etc
  [6:40:57 PM] Wyzard97: This has a exponent definition in mod2
  [6:41:40 PM] Sirius 17: 0100101001100101011100110111010101110011
  [6:41:53 PM] Wyzard97: 0,1,2,3,.. become 1 and 2 and 4 and 8 etcetera if a digital placeholder is present and becomes a 0 if it is not
  [6:42:16 PM] Wyzard97: Yes you decode the string in knowing the place holders
  [6:42:33 PM] Sirius 17: i have not figured it out yet
  [6:42:48 PM] Sirius 17: but the above was Jesus
  [6:42:50 PM] Wyzard97: Take a number 83
  [6:42:52 PM] Sirius 17: in binary
  [6:43:02 PM] Wyzard97: You decompose 83 into powers of 2
  [6:43:30 PM] Wyzard97: 128 is too big, but 64 is part of it. Then go on with this for the lower powers of 2
  [6:43:45 PM] Wyzard97: 128-64-32-16-8-4-2-1
  [6:44:01 PM] Wyzard97: Add 64+16+2+1=83
  [6:44:13 PM] Sirius 17: oh but why do you go up to 128 ?
  [6:45:02 PM] Wyzard97: So 83 digitalises as 1 for 64 and 0 for 32 and 1 for 16 and 0 for 8 and 0 for 4 and 1 for 2 and 1 for 1
  [6:45:16 PM] Wyzard97: So 83=1010011
  [6:45:25 PM] Wyzard97: Same thing for ANY number
  [6:45:51 PM] Wyzard97: 128 was the FIRST power of 2 greater than 83
  [6:45:59 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok
  [6:46:00 PM] Wyzard97: So it is the limit
  [6:46:08 PM] Sirius 17: i think i am too tired i guess
  [6:46:27 PM] Wyzard97: Now show me what is 38 in binary
  [6:46:53 PM] Wyzard97: Just look for the numbers you add AS powers of 2
  [6:47:04 PM] Wyzard97: Recalling that 2^0=1
  [6:47:52 PM] Sirius 17: 32+8=38
  [6:48:01 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
  [6:48:09 PM] Wyzard97: And so 38 binary is?
  [6:48:30 PM] Sirius 17: 01
  [6:48:40 PM] Wyzard97: Try 101000
  [6:48:56 PM] Sirius 17: still not getting that part
  [6:49:20 PM] Wyzard97: 1 for 32 and 0 for 16 and 1 for 8 and 0 for 4 and 0 for 2 and 0 for 1
  [6:49:38 PM] Wyzard97: 01 binary is just 1
  [6:49:53 PM] Wyzard97: But this was the key to the birth of the universe
  [6:50:04 PM] Wyzard97: Because 0+1=1=1+0
  [6:50:06 PM] Sirius 17: lol ok i get it partially
  [6:50:10 PM] Wyzard97: BUT 01=1 and 10=2
  [6:50:28 PM] Wyzard97: This allowed 'God' to INVENT the number 2
  [6:50:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes ok i see
  [6:51:04 PM] Wyzard97: This in more technical terms becomes the NONcommunativity of matrices as the foundation of quantum mechanics
  [6:51:13 PM] Sirius 17: just by inverting the 0's and 1's
  [6:51:16 PM] Wyzard97: YES
  [6:51:40 PM] Wyzard97: Now you are 'reading the mind of God' As the Logos before the Big Bang
  [6:51:50 PM] Sirius 17: its a code lol
  [6:51:57 PM] Wyzard97: Dont the astrophysicists like to 'go there'?
  [6:52:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  [6:52:17 PM] Wyzard97: But they are rejected in their Logos denials
  [6:52:30 PM] Wyzard97: This is the master algorithm published
  [6:52:59 PM] Wyzard97: How the 'Fibonaccis' downloaded January 18th, 1985
  [6:53:18 PM] Sirius 17: what was the number again?
  [6:53:31 PM] Wyzard97: What number?
  [6:53:39 PM] Sirius 17: the algorithm
  [6:54:01 PM] Sirius 17: wait i am thinking of something else i guess
  [6:54:03 PM] Wyzard97: It is a computer program which creates the Fibonacci sequence from first principles
  [6:54:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember your paper on the algorhythm
  [6:54:19 PM] Wyzard97: As 'Awareness Triplets'
  [6:54:44 PM] Wyzard97: (Old State-Experience-New State due to Experience)
  [6:54:50 PM] Wyzard97: This is how 01 becomes 10
  [6:55:21 PM] Wyzard97: (0,0,0) to (1,0,0) to (1,1,1) to (1,1,10)
  [6:55:31 PM] Wyzard97: This is the actual code here
  [6:55:47 PM] Wyzard97: The middle number is the self experience of the I AM
  [6:56:07 PM] Wyzard97: Void-Void-Self-Self
  [6:56:07 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok i see
  [6:56:51 PM] Sirius 17: thats heavy
  
  [6:56:57 PM] Wyzard97: Because the third Self is the same as the fourth, but somehow MUST BE DIFFERENT as the 3rd new State, the 3rd 1 as 01 BECOMES REDEFINED as 10=2
  [6:57:10 PM] Wyzard97: Not really but absolutely fundamental
  [6:57:26 PM] Wyzard97: This is the secret of the Big Bang
  [6:57:38 PM] Wyzard97: Why it could occcur
  [6:57:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see he kept adding to himself
  [6:57:54 PM] Wyzard97: YES
  [6:58:00 PM] Wyzard97: Looking for the missing 4
  [6:58:23 PM] Sirius 17: we were created to find the number 4
  [6:58:26 PM] Sirius 17: space
  [6:58:37 PM] Wyzard97: 4 became the fundamental force interactions in gravity electromagnetism and the two nuclear interactions
  [6:58:42 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
  [6:58:48 PM] Wyzard97: In basic terms yes
  [6:59:03 PM] Wyzard97: All derived from this algorithm
  [6:59:14 PM] Wyzard97: And see how this is now becoming mainstream science?
  [6:59:44 PM] Wyzard97: Yes 4 space dimensions allow a 13D cosmos
  [7:00:07 PM] Wyzard97: Why JC=13=CJ and why there are 26 Bosonic string dimensions
  [7:00:20 PM] Wyzard97: GOD=DOG=26=JCCJ
  [7:00:21 PM] Sirius 17: lol yeah
  [7:00:47 PM] Sirius 17: its so simple, yet they can't see it
  [7:00:58 PM] Wyzard97: Bosonic means integral quantum spin and NO Pauli Exlusion in the electron fermionic quantum state
  [7:00:58 PM] Sirius 17: too close to the forest to see the trees
  [7:01:26 PM] Wyzard97: Well this is gematria in alphanumerics but as Isaac code in English it is valid
  [7:01:51 PM] Sirius 17: no i meant the algorithm
  [7:01:52 PM] Wyzard97: The algorithm is of course independent on language codes, except the mathematical one
  [7:01:59 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
  
  [7:02:15 PM] Sirius 17: its like right there
  [7:02:25 PM] Sirius 17: staring at them daily lol
  [7:02:27 PM] Sirius 17: hahaha
  [7:03:07 PM] Sirius 17: i need to lay down though Tony
  [7:03:16 PM] Sirius 17: my head is pounding
  [7:04:17 PM] Sirius 17: so i will say goodnight dear
  [7:04:33 PM] Sirius 17: thank you for the binary lesson and showing me this
  [7:05:06 PM] Wyzard97: No problem, take care
  [7:05:09 PM] Sirius 17: i will probably dream of 0's and 1's now lol
  [8:39:51 PM] Wyzard97: So this is factual and so has Logos meaning
  [8:40:03 PM] Wyzard97: Take care and buenas Raven
  [8:40:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes you too hon
  [8:40:32 PM] Sirius 17: buenas noches babe
  [8:40:34 PM] Wyzard97: We are still 'testimony keeping'. This is our role
  [8:41:06 PM] Wyzard97: All else can fall by next weekend
  [8:41:07 PM] Sirius 17: (F)(heart)(F)yes Allisiam told me a long time ago that I am a watcher
  [8:41:43 PM] Wyzard97: You are!
  [8:42:05 PM] Sirius 17: she told me its like a guardian, a witness, record keeper
  [8:42:25 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and we do this instinctively and naturally
  [8:42:27 PM] Sirius 17: and to take lots of notes lol
  [8:42:49 PM] Wyzard97: Without questioning it or asking for human accolades or approval
  [8:43:09 PM] Wyzard97: Really? She wants you to take notes?
  [8:43:16 PM] Sirius 17: i have felt like that many times, like some ethnobiotinist on some weird interplanetary mission lol
  [8:43:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes she told me i am a data gatherer
  [8:44:01 PM] Sirius 17: by notes she meant to hold onto my memories
  [8:44:09 PM] Sirius 17: keep them safe
  
  [8:44:11 PM] Wyzard97: All are, but only some know that they are
  [8:44:40 PM] Sirius 17: so she is watching me and i am watching the world lol
  [8:45:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yep this is Baab sending Baab watching herself
  [8:45:44 PM] Wyzard97: The Baab destined to return to Abba watching her own evolution
  [8:49:32 PM] Sirius 17: she said something strange to me once though. that to come back to earth at this time was a gift because i am already ascended and i did not have to come back but that i chose to. like i was already there in the new world, the future and i am time traveling in some weird way. i understand though why i would choose to be here again as the gateway between my future and my past. it makes sense to me now but it didn't then when she first told me this...it was perplexing to me all these memories i had.
  [8:50:29 PM] Wyzard97: Well the point here is, that whatever 'New World' you were in was NOT the ultimate 'New World'
  [8:50:34 PM] Wyzard97: It was a pretender
  [8:51:11 PM] Wyzard97: The ultimate requires the maximum polarisation to transform the most dense bodyforms into light-inertia hybrids
  [8:51:42 PM] Wyzard97: But yes you can only understand the GOT if you are rather familiar with Cosmic Logos
  [8:52:03 PM] Wyzard97: This was your 'ascension state'
  [8:52:36 PM] Sirius 17: well i think this is the reason i just know inside that this will all turn out because some part of me from the future knows
  [8:52:47 PM] Wyzard97: It is the future which was projected as the 'pretender' not the past
  [8:53:09 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the future is the Logos definition as say in Isaiah
  [8:53:28 PM] Wyzard97: it is NOT some human created parallel universe of autonomy
  [8:53:48 PM] Sirius 17: time does not exist for Allisiam like us Tony, its like a 3-D movie and not linear to her
  [8:53:51 PM] Wyzard97: You can only ever become 'autonomous' or sovereign THROUGH the Cosmic JCCJ
  
  [8:54:23 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, but you are nabsing here
  [8:54:37 PM] Sirius 17: no i am explaining it as i understood it from her
  [8:54:50 PM] Sirius 17: call it it nabs if you want
  [8:54:54 PM] Wyzard97: When you say 'time does not exist' then this is Nabs
  [8:55:20 PM] Wyzard97: Time is a placeholder dimension yes, but the plan is to experience linear time concurrent with cycle time
  [8:55:26 PM] Sirius 17: i said it does not exist like it does for us, i did not mean it doesn't exist hon, she sees it differently
  [8:55:40 PM] Wyzard97: You are talking like Nabs saying that the timeless world is in some way superior
  [8:55:46 PM] Sirius 17: no no
  [8:55:49 PM] Wyzard97: This is just how Xeia perceives apparently
  [8:55:56 PM] Sirius 17: this is not what i mean
  [8:56:29 PM] Wyzard97: Seeing this differently means that the higherD allows you to superpose the circular onto the linear
  [8:56:45 PM] Wyzard97: The circular time is actually the inverted wormhole frequency
  [8:56:56 PM] Wyzard97: This stuff is rigorously defined Dear
  [8:57:01 PM] Wyzard97: Not wishy washy nabs
  [8:57:14 PM] Sirius 17: i can sense a timelessness ok, the eternal part of my soul if you will and linear time i am not trying to imply that its better, just that i have these two perceptions
  [8:57:37 PM] Wyzard97: So yes, I know what Allisiam MEANS, but this is far from easy to understand in a human mindset
  [8:57:58 PM] Wyzard97: The timelessness technically is the 5D Raven
  [8:58:04 PM] Sirius 17: i didn't read this out of a book tony i am speaking of subjective experience and things she shows me, its a perception thing
  [8:58:29 PM] Wyzard97: Only with an added 4th space dimension can you overcome the lightspeed tyranny
  [8:58:57 PM] Wyzard97: See yourself in a train in a big circle track
  [8:59:05 PM] Sirius 17: so yes part of me can surf time if you will and like you said i am only likely about 3% aware of it, but i can't deny these experiences
  [8:59:19 PM] Wyzard97: Then at any momnt in the train you think you are travelling straight
  [9:00:02 PM] Wyzard97: But if you take a helicopter view far above the train, you see the circular track and know that you will go back where you are at any time in the future
  [9:00:13 PM] Wyzard97: This is what this is
  [9:00:35 PM] Sirius 17: one vision she gave me was i was standing in the center of all time and i could look in a 360 degree view of many lives and times, but they all converged on the center where i was standing...time was expanding out from me like rays
  [9:00:41 PM] Wyzard97: This does on no way diminish the at a time experience of travelling in the train
  [9:00:52 PM] Wyzard97: You ought to be careful when making such statements
  [9:01:23 PM] Wyzard97: Now what is 360 degrees?
  [9:01:27 PM] Wyzard97: The circle
  [9:01:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  
  [9:01:51 PM] Wyzard97: So there you have an easy to grasp understanding of what NOW-Time is
  [9:01:55 PM] Wyzard97: BUT
  [9:02:19 PM] Wyzard97: for this circle to exist its micro-minimum must exist and this is the wormhole of the LP
  [9:02:56 PM] Wyzard97: The LP is simply the building fractal for any bigger circle in the physicality and the metaphysicality
  [9:03:28 PM] Wyzard97: So the description here validates Allisiam but shows how easily this can become Nabs
  [9:04:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i don't know how to translate what she showed me in physics terms as easily as you can
  [9:04:09 PM] Sirius 17: but i know what i saw
  [9:04:10 PM] Sirius 17: and felt
  [9:04:14 PM] Wyzard97: You were the center because you are the greatest circle in the physicality and this is the cosmos itself
  [9:04:39 PM] Wyzard97: This shows that you are a collection of LPs or wormholes
  [9:05:02 PM] Wyzard97: And your cells are galaxies consisting of billions of such LPs
  [9:05:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  [9:05:36 PM] Sirius 17: it is fractal like, that is a good description
  [9:06:08 PM] Sirius 17: because it was like sphere that expanded out forever
  [9:06:20 PM] Wyzard97: The Nabsers have similar experiences as you and then construct their vanities of self autonomy and this becomes the obnoxious parallel worlds cosmology of the 'devil'
  [9:06:36 PM] Sirius 17: and i could see down through time sort of like fractal zoom i guess
  [9:06:59 PM] Wyzard97: Where no encompassment logistic is required for their own existence in their perceived 'self defined liberty'
  [9:07:17 PM] Sirius 17: no i still felt Allisam around me
  [9:07:24 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the sphere is expanding in 11D
  [9:07:39 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this is because Allisiam is Baab
  [9:07:51 PM] Wyzard97: Baab evolved from Barbelo
  [9:08:05 PM] Sirius 17: there are higher spheres of this she told me
  [9:08:07 PM] Wyzard97: Because of Natural evolution and Gaia evolvements
  [9:08:17 PM] Wyzard97: No
  [9:08:40 PM] Wyzard97: If there were higher spheres, then Abba would be a subset and there would be a higher Abba
  [9:08:52 PM] Wyzard97: This is the reducio ad infinitum fallacy
  [9:08:58 PM] Sirius 17: i mean in ways of seeing time
  [9:09:16 PM] Wyzard97: You can regress from existing maximum to minimum, but not vice versa
  [9:09:33 PM] Wyzard97: This is dangerous stuff now Raven and very wrong
  [9:09:44 PM] Sirius 17: no you can't because you get to the void
  [9:09:52 PM] Wyzard97: 0 is the minimum in both the physics and the metaphysics
  [9:10:04 PM] Wyzard97: Infinity is limitless with no upper bound
  [9:10:18 PM] Wyzard97: Without lower bound no universe could ever exist
  [9:10:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know this dear
  [9:10:40 PM] Wyzard97: As no singularity could exist to invert the infinite
  [9:11:14 PM] Wyzard97: But this 0 does NOT exist in the physical but only as the metaphysics (maths say)
  [9:11:37 PM] Sirius 17: true, it would be a paradox if it did
  [9:11:40 PM] Wyzard97: But as lower bound it is definable simply as an Identity element for a+(-a)=0
  [9:11:52 PM] Wyzard97: You dont have this in infinity
  [9:12:20 PM] Wyzard97: So there are NO higher spheres. Where would they be?
  [9:12:28 PM] Sirius 17: no i understand the asymptote
  [9:12:30 PM] Wyzard97: Where is the 'space' they reside in?
  [9:12:44 PM] Wyzard97: The ONE space derives FROM the VOID
  [9:12:47 PM] Sirius 17: maybe i worded this wrong
  [9:13:34 PM] Wyzard97: Then you have interwoven spheres as many as you like, but no separated bigger ones
  [9:13:40 PM] Wyzard97: This is very bad nabs
  [9:13:44 PM] Sirius 17: [9:08 PM] Sirius 17:
  <<< i mean in ways of seeing time the feeling i got from her was that there were other ways seeing it
  
  [9:14:02 PM] Wyzard97: Yes but this is subjective now
  [9:14:11 PM] Sirius 17: no i never saw separate spheres
  [9:14:22 PM] Wyzard97: Like a fly's clock 'ticks faster' than that of an elephant
  [9:14:37 PM] Wyzard97: Perspectives are ok
  [9:14:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  [9:15:02 PM] Wyzard97: I know that Allisiam is right, but worry you constructing some bs from it
  [9:15:32 PM] Sirius 17: well i dont try to construct anything from it i try to understand it is all
  [9:15:37 PM] Wyzard97: Read to many NDEs and OBEs and so and you get those ideas about space
  [9:16:17 PM] Sirius 17: i don't really read much of that shit Tony you know that
  [9:16:20 PM] Wyzard97: The unlimitedness is the unbounded future IN linear time perception
  [9:16:34 PM] Wyzard97: The circle has NO limited size iow
  [9:16:44 PM] Wyzard97: This is the Radius too
  [9:17:02 PM] Wyzard97: Oh it is not shit, IF you read it with insight
  [9:17:27 PM] Wyzard97: But without experience it is like scripture and easily misunderstood and dismissed
  [9:17:34 PM] Sirius 17: i mean the nabs stuff, i dont ravish the channelings like other people do
  [9:17:55 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this has gotten to a ridiculous stage now
  [9:18:02 PM] Sirius 17: i read Robert Monroe years ago about OBE's and half the stuff he talked about i knew was BS
  [9:18:03 PM] Wyzard97: We are You crap
  [9:18:30 PM] Sirius 17: the Loosh stuff and that humans are being harvested for it
  [9:18:42 PM] Wyzard97: Well
  [9:18:46 PM] Sirius 17: some of the shit he saw was super rediculious
  [9:18:58 PM] Wyzard97: Most is now worse than ever
  [9:19:30 PM] Sirius 17: i read him mostly to discover the technique he used to produce an OBE
  [9:19:33 PM] Wyzard97: Now they use 'educated' lingo to fool the gullible
  [9:19:34 PM] Sirius 17: i was facinated with it
  [9:19:50 PM] Sirius 17: i wanted my own verification not someone elses journeys
  [9:20:15 PM] Sirius 17: and this is the reason most of the nabs stuff doesn't appeal to me
  [9:20:29 PM] Sirius 17: because much of it is subjective
  [9:20:30 PM] Wyzard97: It is inside your own body dear and so your body is the filter and mirror
  [9:20:56 PM] Wyzard97: So all such experiences must be filtered by definition
  [9:21:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  [9:21:22 PM] Wyzard97: The New World will allow this filter to become a new adventure OUTSIDE your body
  [9:21:27 PM] Wyzard97: This is a key btw
  [9:21:40 PM] Wyzard97: This is the ET dilemmas
  [9:21:51 PM] Wyzard97: Where are they? In you!
  [9:22:14 PM] Wyzard97: How can they come out? Only by the Logos whose body IS the Outside!
  [9:22:17 PM] Wyzard97: Keys like that
  [9:22:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes
  [9:22:25 PM] Sirius 17: that makes sense
  [9:22:45 PM] Wyzard97: Gracias
  [9:23:11 PM] Sirius 17: i am going to go to bed now lol
  its almost 3:30 am
  [9:23:40 PM] Sirius 17: i can't sit in this chair anymore, i gotta lay down
  [9:24:06 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I will go and eat
  [9:24:08 PM] Sirius 17: sweet dreams hon
  [9:24:10 PM] Wyzard97: Buenas dear
  [9:30:42 PM] Wyzard97: And you see here, that we do not always agree after all
  
  
  
  Post last edited Mar 17th 2013

 

The Electra-Oedipus Synthesis Decomplexified
A Template for Alchemical Core Dragonomy in Thuban Cosmogenesis​

When a girl is born, who was supposed or wished for to have been a boy; then certain cosmogenetic factors can manifest and use this occurrence to harmonise the universally applicable genome in this particular event of unfulfilled desires and disappointments.
Abraxasinas

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you; if you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.
— Gnostic Gospel of Thomas

What you fear is an indication of what you seek. — Thomas Merton

​

Tuesday, March 19th, 2013
Wyzard


Aries Ingress – March 20th UT 2013
Aries Ingress 2013 : 20th March 2013 : 11:01 am UT

Astrologers around the world celebrate International Astrology Day, IAD, as we all welcome the Suns move into the first sign of the zodiac, Aries, known as the Aries Ingress. Zero Aries is a very significant point, as are the other zero degrees of the cardinal signs Libra , Cancer and Capricorn. These four points are also known as the world points that correspond to the Equinoxes and Solstices as significant turning points in our year. Zero Aries remains the most significant as here we begin a new cycle as the Sun once again illuminates our year ahead.

We arrive at this Equinox in flux and in transition, disturbed by the past and still eager to see the world change for the better. The recent Pisces symphony has shown up a world of extremes , hot and cold, dark and light , pain and joy , although nothing new, these extremes seem to be becoming more extreme. With Mercury recently refreshed and realigned, having just turned direct in our heavens and a new Moon only days ago at 21 Pisces, our collective psyche is flooding with memories, hopes and inspiration as we nurture the new forms emerging from within and prepare to pour them into the matrix without .
An examination of the Aries Ingress Chart gives us a good idea of the flavour of the year ahead. At last year’s Aries Ingress 2012, the Sun was conjunct Uranus and Mercury in Aries, was retrograde. Although 2012 was the year with the potential for great change , with the Sun conjunct revolutionary Uranus, it still felt as though major change and the new beginnings were actually on hold. Saturn was still in Libra, Mars was retrograde in Virgo, the Moon was doused by Neptune and yes, Mercury was retrograde.



Enter 2013. Mars now joins Uranus and the Sun in early Aries. So this year action is the key word. Many astrologers would say to expect the worst; blood, terror, an upsurge in violence and war and more war. War is nothing new and seems to be a constant in some parts of the world just at varying degrees of different intensity. To make war has been the way the system has worked for millennia for nations to get their way. Now the war machine has become more powerful, more secretive, more dangerous and more lethal. In the new world of causal intention, reconsidering where we put our focus and our intention is vital. Our intentions are not for War and more bloodshed, but brave and radical moves toward effective change.

Over the last 4000 years we have lived in a predominantly masculine dominated world, which took over from much more egalitarian societies, where the sacred feminine was honoured and respected. We now strive for a return of this balance. Astrology became well developed in these early days of power and control and Mars has always been associated with blood, war and the military. Yet as we have become ever more conscious beings, it is imperative to channel the energy of Mars into action, and not war. The fixed star Regulus has also now moved into the sign of Virgo after 2160 years , and calls for the return of the sacred feminine to help fix the system. Uranus opens a new way for our Martian actions this equinox and as it squares the Moon at 7 Cancer, takes us out of our comfort zone.
Much of the world’s peoples continue to live in poverty in appalling conditions as planet Earth gets ever more populated, the environment gets ever more polluted, as more resources are destroyed. The reality of climate change confronts us, whilst the mega powerful continue to rape the earth and governments continue to support their vile acts in the name of the economy. It is easy to find ourselves wondering if indeed it can ever change.

It is the state and the mainstream masses that keep allowing this to happen, that keep propagating and supporting this system, while brave grass roots warriors and Uranian types work hard at breaking the endless cycle of greed, domination and destruction. The value of what we do is in the effort. Our efforts are not going unnoticed as we continue to collaborate with like minded people. The lightning bolts of Uranus ignite those in a certain state of being, those in the same state of flux and nothing can stop our impact. “The value is in the effort”, keep saying that to yourself, “ the value is in the effort”. We forge ahead with a strong Promethean urge to create change.
Mercury in Pisces is all perceptive, challenging us to think differently and urging us not to use the same old channels to come up with answers. Mercury in Pisces is beyond alternatives and has the capacity to think beyond to uncover and decipher and come up with some bright ideas to illuminate what’s ahead.
So keep your ears pricked because the Moon from Cancer trines Mercury, and Saturn in Scorpio affirms it, as we are guided by what feels right. This is a prelude to the grand water trine in effect during July 2013, with Jupiter in Cancer trining Saturn and Neptune. All Mercury retrogrades this year are in water signs and the watery realm throughout 2013, leads us to experience deeply, find meaning, to connect and collaborate on the important issues more than we are used to.
The Yod between Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto is a strong signature for the year ahead. Who is the judge and whom are we judging? Have we become awake and aware enough to push against the powers that be that appear to have the control.

Jupiter is in Gemini and is pushing for an expansion of ideas and a seeking of wisdom in ordinary channels. May the truth guide us, seems far from the Truth. We continue to be open-minded , yet won’t allow ourselves to be dumbed down, by propaganda, media hype and governmental promises. We are still learning a lot about the power of that which won’t budge and there are many more questions than answers at the moment. A great urge still resides within to continue to push against the system, as we collectively strive to solve the many problems that lie ahead.
The Moon is square Uranus, opposite Pluto and trine Saturn. We, the people, the collective, the community are more powerful than we might imagine. We know what the world needs and as Pluto and Uranus square again this year in May and November, the evolutionary urge rides within us all. At this Ingress, Pluto and Uranus square each with an orb of 3.5 degrees, last year it was five degrees. In 2014 and 2015 this orb gets tighter and tighter. The revolution is happening and the momentum is building. In the chart for this ingress there is a kite formation present, with Pluto at the apex and the Moon opposite, this is an image of people power. We hold the power to heal our planet and uncover new systems that better support us.

Venus, at 27 Pisces is exalted by sign and degree and is about to make her next Star point aspect. On March 28th Venus will join the Sun and Uranus at 8 Aries. She divines with the sky Gods, preparing to deliver a new message , due by Jan 2014, at her next retrograde conjunction with the Sun at 23 Capricorn. As Venus weaves the magical pentacle around our Earth, she calls us to create. Venus represents what we attract to this world, what we deeply desire, value and appreciate and how art and culture influence our world. Her strength at this time is what keeps us going, what can keep us flourishing, ahead in the zodiac at the 358th degree. If all we can do is be creative, to strive for peace, to love and stand up for equality then we are doing well. Venus in Pisces is infectious and we are the antiseptic agents of change, the spreading and nurturing of this unrelenting force, no-one can take away.
So at this Equinox, our collective cosmic intelligence and wisdom impels us to create positive change, to be conscious partners in the revolutionary dance. As the evolutionary agents, the strange attractors that we are, may our creative force guide our revolution with positive results for all peoples and our planet.
Mandala above by Chris Flisher – Agent Seven O, go to link to see more of his work .

Happy Equinox !
http://www.cosmicintelligenceagency.com/2013/03/aries-ingress-2013/


[12:02:19 PM-Wednesda, March 20th, 2013-+11UCT]
[12:02:37 PM] Wyzard97: Cyprus is interesting
[12:02:55 PM] Wyzard97: Cyrus 'releases' the captives on Monday
[12:03:15 PM] Sirius 17: the cyprus bank thing?
[12:03:18 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[12:03:25 PM] Wyzard97: Cy(p)rus
[12:03:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes kind of scarry
[12:04:04 PM] Wyzard97: This fits the timeline exactly
[12:04:17 PM] Wyzard97: Well March 25th is the 'release' day
[12:04:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes monday
[12:04:32 PM] Wyzard97: I finished the chart edits
[12:04:50 PM] Sirius 17: Jarrod comes home then too
[12:04:56 PM] Sirius 17: from his vacation
[12:05:03 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED&fid=C8003AFA-256F-490A-942F-15A004A56BC8&pageindex=9
[12:05:49 PM] Wyzard97: This tells me that the genetic lineages have become reconfigured on the highest level
[12:06:09 PM] Wyzard97: This shows how the 'reincarnation' stuff works
[12:06:20 PM] Wyzard97: But I wont detail this
[12:06:41 PM] Wyzard97: Everyone can figure for themselves. It should be self-explicatory
[12:08:27 PM] Wyzard97: The quasi-Y of the mother defines the daughter, just as the X of the Father defines the son
[12:08:57 PM] Wyzard97: The pundits knew for some time, that the presence or absence of the Y-chromosome defines the gender
[12:10:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes true
[12:13:44 PM] Wyzard97: Anyone understanding this chart, can then see many reasons for the mysterious sayings of Jesus. Such that you must be born again and the harlot mother and the human marriage becoming voided by the alchemy
[12:14:20 PM] Wyzard97: And of course the Adam-Eve fuckup, causative for the sexism in creation
But atm noone will understand this or be interested enough to even think about the implications and consequences

[12:15:15 PM] Sirius 17: Tony what do the S and D stand for?
[12:15:47 PM] Wyzard97: S=Son and D=Daughter
[12:15:54 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[12:16:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes sorry
[12:17:07 PM] Wyzard97: Basically this shows the genetic descent of everyone who has ever lived
[12:18:34 PM] Wyzard97: Because IF you render the two X sex chromosomes of the mother as different and baby sex determinative, depending on the spermatozoa, then you recreate an original supersymmetry between Abba and Baab or Creator and Creation or Wave Universal and Particular Universe
[12:18:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes its complex but not really, just trying to understand it all
[12:19:09 PM] Wyzard97: It is not complex but looks as so it is, yes.
[12:19:39 PM] Wyzard97: It is much simpler than Mendelian genetics for humans, because the two Xs become distinct
[12:19:55 PM] Wyzard97: This btw is the Sodom and Gomorrah code in the bible
[12:20:10 PM] Wyzard97: And the 'disowned' children of the 'Harlot Mother' in Hosea
So it is far reaching for the people of the insight-gnosis
[12:21:45 PM] Sirius 17: so in the starhuman the inside becomes like the outside and the outside becomes like the inside in the genetics? The image feedsback on itself
[12:22:19 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, but this is too general
[12:23:01 PM] Wyzard97: The point is the dead alive ones as waved particular individuals become reconfigured as the original Adam-Eve genome
[12:23:22 PM] Sirius 17: well i just saw how you show the MI individualized being half in the male and the other in the female
[12:23:47 PM] Wyzard97: So it does not matter what body you got etc, because after dying you universalise as Joseph=IM individual, but ascended and as Abba=IM universal
[12:24:15 PM] Wyzard97: This is why MY MI is everyones universal Baab but individualised relative to me as MY Mary
[12:24:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is beautiful
[12:24:47 PM] Wyzard97: Oh yes and super profound
[12:24:58 PM] Wyzard97: It solves many mysteries in the biology as well

[12:25:29 PM] Sirius 17: Yet as we have become ever more conscious beings, it is imperative to channel the energy of Mars into action, and not war. The fixed star Regulus has also now moved into the sign of Virgo after 2160 years , and calls for the return of the sacred feminine to help fix the system. Uranus opens a new way for our Martian actions this equinox and as it squares the Moon at 7 Cancer, takes us out of our comfort zone.
[12:25:36 PM] Sirius 17: i also liked this

[12:25:38 PM] Wyzard97: And the ETs of course are lineage related and require the human old templates to become starhuman dragon blueprints to manifest themselves
[12:26:09 PM] Sirius 17: no wonder Xeia is so screwy lately
[12:26:15 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I added this, because it crystallises this superenergy in Pisces in the February-April period 2013
[12:26:42 PM] Wyzard97: This chart is just as deep as the final timeline one
[12:26:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see that, it is fixing the genetics
[12:27:18 PM] Sirius 17: making ABBABAAB the true mother and father
[12:27:22 PM] Wyzard97: But 'Alchemy' is easier to read or understand than 'Add'
[12:27:27 PM] Wyzard97: YES
[12:27:31 PM] Wyzard97: Everyones
[12:28:01 PM] Wyzard97: And ANY dead alive parent becomes the individualisations of cosmic Abba and cosmic Baab
[12:28:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes i always knew that
[12:28:33 PM] Wyzard97: So to become reborn, the dead alive ones MUST manifest sex genetically in the Living Dead
[12:29:09 PM] Wyzard97: Any dead parent becomes Joseph and Mary; just as I was 'seduced' into to understand in 1995
[12:29:16 PM] Sirius 17: why the core is needed then, well at least for the genetic purposes
[12:29:25 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the core is elementary
[12:29:40 PM] Wyzard97: Cores are the prerequisite for ET manifesto
[12:30:43 PM] Wyzard97: Debbie is no longer 'MY Daughter' as she has used the indvidualisation of the Alive Dead Biogenetics to Universalise and Reindividualise again
[12:30:50 PM] Wyzard97: Alpha-Omega Closure
[12:31:02 PM] Wyzard97: This the chart 'proves' logistically
[12:31:26 PM] Sirius 17: She is you
[12:32:02 PM] Sirius 17: reborn in you
[12:32:09 PM] Wyzard97: Her new father went into another 'daughter' as Individualised Joseph and her new mother so in individualisation becomes the mother of the host
[12:32:13 PM] Wyzard97: No
[12:32:36 PM] Wyzard97: Debbie is reborn literally in whoever 'MY Core' is
[12:32:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes and your core is you too
[12:32:53 PM] Wyzard97: It is the Individualised MI=Mary, who is reborn in me
[12:33:01 PM] Sirius 17: what i meant anyhow, but yes i know what your saying
[12:33:03 PM] Wyzard97: No my core is the New Juliet
[12:34:06 PM] Sirius 17: so do you feel this new template will trigger on the 24th then?
[12:34:11 PM] Wyzard97: My biomother's x-chromosome defines my sonship see; but this is maleness and changes via the universality into the femaleness of the 'new father'
[12:34:21 PM] Wyzard97: It is already made manifest
[12:35:13 PM] Wyzard97: Raven you, as a Cosmic Daughter must carry the Universal Baab with and Universal Father
[12:35:34 PM] Sirius 17: true
[12:35:57 PM] Wyzard97: It is your core, who mirrors this as a Cosmic Son in carrying the Universal Abba with an Individualised Baab
[12:36:16 PM] Wyzard97: This we always have known, b ut now we could express it logistically
[12:36:35 PM] Wyzard97: This is why cores are elementary
[12:36:53 PM] Wyzard97: As the Lake of Fire and Brimstone
[12:37:09 PM] Wyzard97: Fire=CJ and Brimstone =JC
[12:38:01 PM] Wyzard97: Wherein all 'false images' will be damned for for eternity; because the original 'sin' is dissolved as the ignorance between Manhood and Womanhood
[12:38:28 PM] Wyzard97: This is EVERYONE's Cosmic Blueprint into eternal life
But of course it will be ignored as usual
[12:39:35 PM] Sirius 17: yes but for how long will it be ignored?
[12:40:40 PM] Sirius 17: it has to manifest in the manyness somehow
[12:40:49 PM] Sirius 17: like Jesus did
[12:41:16 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed and this is March 25th to July 5th
[12:42:29 PM] Wyzard97: Look at the timeline add. Cyrus releases the Israelites in the 'Edict of Cyrus' for the israelites to return to 'Build Solomon's Temple'
[12:43:11 PM] Wyzard97: This relates symbolically to this political BS of CY(P)RUS with the 'edicts' of the IMF and the European banks
[12:43:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes it makes sense
[12:44:14 PM] Wyzard97: You see here a precise cosmic synchronicity between the Logos timeline, describing Babylon in Daniel in the OT with Revelation in the NT
[12:44:57 PM] Wyzard97: I dont care if anyone can see this Raven. I know it is 'fulfilment' of the Logos words
[12:45:04 PM] Wyzard97: This is all that matters to me now
[12:45:13 PM] Sirius 17: i know hon
[12:46:08 PM] Wyzard97: But you for one, should be able to understand what this means personally for your life and coring
[12:46:33 PM] Wyzard97: You dont have to understand the timeline to apply the new cosmogenetics
[12:47:09 PM] Wyzard97: It is for anyone to apply this personally for it to be useful for the incarnated body selves
[12:47:16 PM] Sirius 17: did you update the add chart on mists?
[12:47:33 PM] Wyzard97: Now you 'feel' Rose and the Dead Alive Ones and this is the key here
[12:47:38 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[12:47:41 PM] Sirius 17: i was looking for the edict of cyrus thing
[12:48:00 PM] Sirius 17: lol i know i saw it before
[12:49:01 PM] Wyzard97: Oh this is on the forums and historically verified
[12:49:06 PM] Wyzard97: 538BC
[12:49:15 PM] Wyzard97: I wrote many posts on this
[12:49:43 PM] Sirius 17: ok i see it now in the middle far right of the chart
[12:50:07 PM] Sirius 17: yes i wondered reading yesterday about this bank scandal in greece what it meant
[12:50:21 PM] Wyzard97: From the 'Battle of Armageddon-Meggido' of 609-608BC to this 'Edict' of 539-537BC
[12:50:58 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/viewimage.forum?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthuban.spruz.com%2Fgfile%2F75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!g10Boy7r72y1nq%2Fadd.jpg
[12:51:00 PM] Sirius 17: Carol posted something on this
[12:51:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am looking at it
[12:51:36 PM] Sirius 17: uncanny timing lol
[12:51:55 PM] Sirius 17: so the banks are still frozen until monday?
[12:52:06 PM] Sirius 17: they extended it past thursday?
[12:52:22 PM] Sirius 17: that was the last i read
[12:52:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is verification indeed

[12:53:56 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know, but this is the 4D code of the lower filter indicating the the higherD maniferstation and new lawfulness
[12:55:12 PM] Sirius 17: i wonder if the whole eurozone will collapse after this bank fails
[12:55:18 PM] Wyzard97: 'For the eyes that can see and the ears that can hear'!
[12:55:31 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter, Raven
[12:55:58 PM] Wyzard97: The 3-4D world is the filter down effect of the 12-13D
[12:56:10 PM] Wyzard97: This is what people cant get
[12:56:15 PM] Sirius 17: only in the sense that it would snowball the demise is what i am thinking of the whole monitary system
[12:56:31 PM] Wyzard97: It is top-down not bottom-up, the lawmaking
[12:56:47 PM] Sirius 17: it would be an outward manifestation and proof its over
[12:56:54 PM] Wyzard97: Oh yes, anything is possible in the old system collaps and demise
[12:57:22 PM] Wyzard97: I just dont think the timing of this is subject to its own dimensional manouvers. It is Logos decision from the wavestate universal
[12:57:30 PM] Sirius 17: from what they are saying this will ripple through the whole of europe
[12:57:36 PM] Wyzard97: Hopefully
[12:57:47 PM] Wyzard97: But I am always skeptical
[12:57:53 PM] Sirius 17: no it seems really big
[12:58:13 PM] Sirius 17: this could be a huge deal and see talk of it is very supressed in the US media
[12:58:36 PM] Sirius 17: the major networks are burying this stuff
[12:59:21 PM] Wyzard97: Because the banksters fear this would ripple through the other countries and the people withdrawing all the money from the banks
[12:59:29 PM] Sirius 17: what does the 10% mean can you decipher, the bank will take 10% off off every investor
[12:59:31 PM] Wyzard97: This is fiscal nightmare collapse alright
[12:59:44 PM] Sirius 17: i mean for us and the decoding, not the economy
[12:59:53 PM] Wyzard97: I read 6.5%
[1:00:11 PM] Wyzard97: But yes, this is the 'biblical tithing' of the one tenth
[1:00:29 PM] Sirius 17: well it was first discussed to be 10%
[1:00:39 PM] Sirius 17: i don't know it is one of the articles Carol posted
[1:00:47 PM] Sirius 17: they may of negotiated lower
[1:01:31 PM] Wyzard97:

Revelation 11:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

[1:01:54 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes this is what i thought
[1:02:19 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/19/cyprus-rejects-eurozone-bailout-savings-tax
[1:05:43 PM] Sirius 17: Accounts holding €20,000 to €100,000 still faced a 6.75% levy, and any account with more than €100,000 a tax of 9.9%, despite calls by Cyprus's eurozone partners not to tax accounts below €100,000 – the level at which a European Union-wide guarantee kicks in if an EU bank goes bust.
[1:06:23 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, you were right. It is 10% for the bigger amounts
[1:07:01 PM] Wyzard97: It is the 'death of the one and only Devil'
[1:07:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see it as such
[1:07:22 PM] Wyzard97: The 'False idol and God' of this old world
[1:07:33 PM] Sirius 17: this thing could have serious global implications
[1:07:52 PM] Sirius 17: no bailout will help it
[1:07:59 PM] Wyzard97: The NWO as the Feds globalised, yes
[1:08:59 PM] Sirius 17: and if that happens the world could turn into one big syria
[1:09:53 PM] Wyzard97: Well I no longer care actually. But the Logos timeline says the time until July 5th and then a countdown to February and March 2014
[1:09:54 PM] Sirius 17: our government is flying B-52's over Korea now
[1:10:04 PM] Sirius 17: seems they are taking this guy serious
[1:10:06 PM] Wyzard97: It is all madness
[1:10:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes its escalating into all out craziness
[1:10:27 PM] Wyzard97: Recall Netanyahu and Iran and his May deadline?
[1:10:34 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[1:11:00 PM] Wyzard97: So, whilst I am no conspiracy theorist, I know of the ptb agendas
[1:11:32 PM] Sirius 17: well look within our microcosm here, we have a stalemate with Xeia and Rok, its like a divide has been cast
[1:11:38 PM] Wyzard97: The 'cabal' is however not a human elite or evil ETs; it is a 'system of thinking' - period
[1:11:40 PM] Sirius 17: this is also what worries me
[1:12:15 PM] Wyzard97: I saw Xeia signing into spruz. She does not do this very often
[1:12:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes she is reading i guess
[1:12:36 PM] Sirius 17: likely to see if we are talking about her lol
[1:12:43 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia and Rok are 'cored' in the template in a new way Raven
[1:12:54 PM] Sirius 17: so paranoid she is
[1:12:56 PM] Wyzard97: Since February 19th as a matter of fact
[1:13:04 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[1:13:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know this dear, i just hope that she comes to her senses
[1:14:08 PM] Wyzard97: There are remnants of the old world ballyhoos in Xeia and in Rok (and in us too of course); and this is under a cosmic processing legislature and jurisprudence now
[1:14:23 PM] Sirius 17: what do you feel about Xeia, like do you sense anything? i feel contempt for us
[1:14:51 PM] Wyzard97: But those 'remnants' express individually and differently and them two have different 'issues' to ours
[1:14:59 PM] Sirius 17: true
[1:15:23 PM] Wyzard97: I am not worried about Xeia or Rok as I am also not 'worried' about say Susan or JT
[1:15:53 PM] Wyzard97: They have imo 'qualified' for whatever the Logos will dispense in due time
[1:16:12 PM] Wyzard97: It will almost 100% be NOT what they expect or envision though
[1:17:20 PM] Sirius 17: i saw something this lady on AV1 was discussing about a client of hers she was working with, this woman saw a blue light engulfing everything in march
[1:17:44 PM] Sirius 17: from the excerpt it seemed as if she was downloaded with something, she even used this word
[1:17:53 PM] Sirius 17: she called it the christ consciousness
[1:18:28 PM] Sirius 17: it was full of nabs of course but the guts of it struck me
[1:18:34 PM] Sirius 17: especially this blue light
[1:18:55 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this is the same stuff Xeia mentioned and linked before
[1:18:55 PM] Sirius 17: reminded me of a similar light Allisam has shown me
[1:19:06 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i realized that
[1:19:29 PM] Wyzard97: It is definitely on and this chart makes this 'middle of March' equinox setting rather personal
[1:19:31 PM] Sirius 17: but many of her clients i guess are experiencing similar strange things
[1:19:55 PM] Wyzard97: This equinox is also the 10th anniversary of Bush's Iraq invasion
[1:19:57 PM] Sirius 17: personal for you yet universal, as you said MI is in everyone
[1:20:24 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and it is now or the latest from March 25tyh onwards
[1:20:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes they are talking about it all over the news here
[1:20:40 PM] Wyzard97: It HAD to template UNTIL this timemarker was reached
[1:20:41 PM] Sirius 17: reminiscing
[1:20:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes the mapping
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130319144540.htm
this is interesting
[1:22:15 PM] Sirius 17: The code used in these simulations was OSIRIS, a PIC code that has been developed over more than 10 years in a collaboration between the University of California, Los Angeles and Portugal's Instituto Superior Técnico.
[1:22:22 PM] Sirius 17: the word OSIRIS caught my eye
[1:23:51 PM] Wyzard97: Well, because the 'ptb', here meaning the 'nothing better to do' than the 'priviledged' aristocrats and 'rich'; KNOW of the connectivity between the ancient codes and histories
[1:24:08 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130319124214.htm
[1:24:22 PM] Sirius 17: and this too, some new research in quantum computing
[1:24:30 PM] Wyzard97: Why you get all those codenames carrying deeper meanings to the 'insiders'
[1:24:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes i figured
[1:24:56 PM] Sirius 17: both these articles came out today
[1:25:02 PM] Wyzard97: The point is however, that those 'insiders' are 'outsiders' relative to the 'Logos Insiders'
[1:25:25 PM] Wyzard97: You can read between the words here
[1:25:26 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130319144535.htm
and this one too
[1:25:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes they are
[1:25:57 PM] Sirius 17: i am just observing all this too
[1:26:16 PM] Sirius 17: but today was interesting with the bank stuff and all these tech discoveries
[1:27:47 PM] Wyzard97: It is the midway day of the 5 months of 150 days as 150/30=5 and the 150/15=10 days from the Ideas of March to March 25th
[1:28:00 PM] Wyzard97: As the precise March Equinox 2013
[1:28:13 PM] Wyzard97: At 01:11 UCT
[1:28:26 PM] Sirius 17: today is the equinox?
[1:28:31 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[1:28:34 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[1:28:51 PM] Sirius 17: nice
[1:29:23 PM] Wyzard97: Well you are 8 hours before UCT, so it is so 2½ hours ago for Seattle time
[1:31:31 PM] Wyzard97: You are 7 hours before UCT since March 10th, as you started DLS
[1:31:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes well we are back to normal time now
[1:32:01 PM] Wyzard97: So it is now 02:31 UCT
[1:32:16 PM] Wyzard97: And the Equinox was 1½ hours ago
[1:32:26 PM] Sirius 17: about the time i layed down for a nap
[1:32:32 PM] Wyzard97: No you are unnormal time now
[1:32:45 PM] Wyzard97: Your normal time offset is 8 hours
[1:33:10 PM] Sirius 17: oh well they add an hour in spring and take it away in fall for DLS
[1:33:32 PM] Sirius 17: i thought that we were on normal time now
[1:33:37 PM] Sirius 17: so confusing
[1:33:42 PM] Sirius 17: i hate it that they do this shit
[1:33:54 PM] Wyzard97: Your DLS is +1 hour and this is 'unnormal'
[1:34:10 PM] Wyzard97: I know it is very confusing
[1:34:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i know they do it to supposedly add more daylight hours in the winter
[1:34:33 PM] Wyzard97: We here 'change' on April 7th and we go -1 hour
[1:34:36 PM] Sirius 17: makes no sense to me
[1:35:11 PM] Sirius 17: they are not adding anything just making people get up earlier lol
[1:38:28 PM] Wyzard97: I checked the Equinox; it is 11:02 UCT and so still coming
[1:39:10 PM] Wyzard97: It will be in 8½ hours from now or was 8 minutes ago
[1:40:14 PM] Wyzard97: 11:02 = 11011 and DDs code as Aquaries1111
[1:40:56 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[1:41:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, we addressed the chart a bit here
[1:41:10 PM] Sirius 17: anything from her
[1:41:19 PM] Wyzard97: This will do, regarding elucidations
[1:41:28 PM] Wyzard97: No
[1:41:34 PM] Wyzard97: Take care Raven
[1:41:42 PM] Sirius 17: are you going?
[1:42:50 PM] Wyzard97: [1:32 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< about the time i layed down for a nap

[1:43:12 PM] Wyzard97: Oh I see, you meant the 1½ hours
[1:43:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes i thought you said the equinox was a few hours ago
[1:43:33 PM] Wyzard97: I am sharing this on the chart post on cosmosdawn
[1:43:37 PM] Sirius 17: when i was napping
[1:43:53 PM] Wyzard97: [1:38 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< I checked the Equinox; it is 11:02 UCT and so still coming
It will be in 8½ hours from now or was 8 minutes ago

[1:44:06 PM] Wyzard97: I messed up the 1's
[1:44:09 PM] Sirius 17: oh
[1:44:18 PM] Wyzard97: 01:11 becomes 11:01
[1:44:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes i thought it was on the 21st
[1:44:32 PM] Wyzard97: No. it is today
[1:44:38 PM] Sirius 17: i really did not know
[1:44:57 PM] Wyzard97: It changes year by year with the lunations, each 29.53 days
[1:45:51 PM] Wyzard97: You can check them here
[1:45:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes i googled it, it says March 20th 11:02 UTC
[1:45:57 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/isun2000.pdf
[1:46:15 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and the astrology post said 11:01
[1:46:36 PM] Wyzard97: Nice how you check everything
[1:46:46 PM] Wyzard97: This is how not to fall into the Nabs trap
[1:47:17 PM] Wyzard97: Use and compare at least two different sources and you have a fair amount of validity
[1:47:54 PM] Sirius 17: oh this is interesting its astrology and planet alignments
[1:48:00 PM] Wyzard97: So using me as one source and cross checking will show quickly if I made a mistake, see that?
[1:48:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes i just didn't think of it until you said you made a mistake
you always double check yourself anyhow
[1:50:43 PM] Sirius 17: 2013
Mar
20 11:02
0°
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[1:50:54 PM] Wyzard97: Yes with specifics, because I do make mistakes, despite my rigour
[1:50:57 PM] Sirius 17: yeah this astro reference confirms it
[1:51:21 PM] Sirius 17: lol 0 degrees Taurus it should say
[1:51:45 PM] Sirius 17: err wait is that Aries
[1:51:48 PM] Wyzard97: The often 'maligned' and under appreciated 'scientific method'
[1:51:55 PM] Wyzard97: Aries
[1:52:19 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i was reading AV1 last night and shaking my head
[1:52:38 PM] Sirius 17: these nutty nabs freaks are scared of modern science to the nth degree
but i thought i would surf their forums as mists is entirely boring as hell now
[1:53:59 PM] Sirius 17: its all so boring
[1:54:15 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed, I hardly ever check Camelot or AV
[1:54:18 PM] Sirius 17: its pretty bad when i have to turn to CNN for an objective view lol
[1:54:54 PM] Wyzard97: The 'New Age' and alternative media has 'officially' become just another dogmatic religion and belief system
[1:55:35 PM] Wyzard97: It will 'go to hell', just as the mainstream systematics are doomed
[1:56:17 PM] Wyzard97: Logos Rules for Abba and Baab and I dont care if people laugh at this statement!
[1:56:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes ignorance is not sustainable
[1:56:59 PM] Sirius 17: did you see this Ted talk video I shared with you?
[1:57:12 PM] Wyzard97: Not after this 'cosmic lineage' for the new 'Dragon Universe' has manifested
[1:57:25 PM] Sirius 17: this guy did research on desertification and its causes and came up with a surprising conclusion
[1:57:26 PM] Wyzard97: I cant emphasize enough, how potent this chart is
[1:57:36 PM] Wyzard97: I saw this yes
[1:57:49 PM] Sirius 17: mimicing nature
[1:57:56 PM] Sirius 17: haha who would of thought huh?
[1:58:34 PM] Sirius 17: all these years everything we have been taught about grazing
[1:58:37 PM] Sirius 17: is wrong
[1:59:38 PM] Wyzard97: All good Raven, but the 'New World' needs actual changes like in the human body and until the Logos disppenses the new jurisdiction, things like that will retain their novelty value, but fail to impact the collective agendas
[2:00:26 PM] Wyzard97: But this is the way FOR the New World and a New Ecology indeed
He is a New World Pioneer, like your anti ageing champion
[2:02:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw him as such
[2:02:32 PM] Sirius 17: there are a few responsible humans still
[2:02:46 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and the codes number them as 50,000
[2:03:06 PM] Sirius 17: teachers in the New World for sure
[2:04:09 PM] Wyzard97: 7/10,000 of a % actually or 1 in 144,000
[2:04:41 PM] Sirius 17: http://ttp://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57078-The-aliens-really-demons....
[2:04:45 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[2:04:51 PM] Sirius 17: they locked this thread today
[2:05:31 PM] Wyzard97: Locked why?

So can you work out now why 144,000 are 'chosen' as 50,000 unique pioneering individuals?
[2:06:44 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know i am looking to find out, but its AV2 so likely it was getting too much controversy and traffic
[2:07:48 PM] Sirius 17: its a fractal of the template the 144,000, i think you showed me this several times 12x12=24=144,000 or something like that
[2:08:04 PM] Sirius 17: the Elders
[2:08:43 PM] Wyzard97: It is the global critical mass populus, which includes 200 million ETs divided by 144,000
[2:08:45 PM] Sirius 17: because they can remember who they are and why they are here
[2:09:21 PM] Wyzard97: Whatever, this is Logos choosing and so relates to the self awareness of whoever feels 'ready'
[2:09:31 PM] Wyzard97: There are no 'judges'
[2:09:50 PM] Wyzard97: But most new agers dont qualify
[2:10:01 PM | Edited 2:10:31 PM] Wyzard97: As they reject the uniqueness of the Logos
[2:10:07 PM | Edited 2:10:56 PM] Wyzard97: Krishna=Jesus=Horus=Maitreya=....Nabs
[2:11:56 PM] Wyzard97: The fundamentalist bible/scripture bashers disqualify, because they 'worship' a 'nirvana god'
[2:12:30 PM] Sirius 17: most 'Christians' worship life after death
[2:12:39 PM] Wyzard97: The materialist skeptics disqualify, because they 'worship' the 'devil god' of the money makers
[2:12:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes nirvana
[2:13:29 PM] Wyzard97: So you dont have most people NOT 'following' any of those three 'stream systems'
[2:13:57 PM] Wyzard97: The remnant are some sufi-true gnosis-universal science-...adherents
[2:14:29 PM] Wyzard97: 50,000 as fractal of the Cocoon Population
[2:14:51 PM] Wyzard97: The 200 Million are defined specifically in the Book of Revelation
[2:14:57 PM] Sirius 17: well it's like we said before there is nothing out there in any writing like the GOT...there it has been hidden for centuries and anyone reading it can see that these are not human words...i mean just objectively looking at it and one can see this. It is totally unlike anything on earth.
[2:15:42 PM] Wyzard97:

Revelation 9:16
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

[2:16:11 PM] Sirius 17: i cannot think of a single book or piece of writing that says, if you understand this fully then you shall not experience death... i mean who would dare say that?
[2:16:50 PM] Wyzard97:

(23) Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as a single one."

This is the GOT code for this
[2:17:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes one of my favorites
[2:17:16 PM] Wyzard97: Two out of 10,000 means 1(2),000=12,000
[2:18:15 PM] Wyzard97: And 12x12,000=144,000 as per the 'Sealing of the chosen' in Rev.7
[2:18:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:19:31 PM] Wyzard97:

Revelation 5:11
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

[2:19:41 PM] Wyzard97: You 'prove' it by this and Daniel
[2:20:09 PM] Wyzard97:

Daniel 7:10
A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

[2:20:26 PM] Wyzard97: As 10,000x10,000=100 Million see?
[2:20:38 PM] Wyzard97: 'And the Books were opened'.
[2:20:49 PM] Wyzard97: This is so profound, perhaps you can see it?
[2:21:28 PM] Wyzard97: The 'doubling' of the 100 million in Daniel for the 144,000x2=288,000
[2:21:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:21:52 PM] Sirius 17: i can see it
[2:22:11 PM] Wyzard97: The 12 Elders as Men become 24 Elders as Men and Women
[2:22:37 PM] Wyzard97: Why there are 24 Elders around the 'Throne in Heaven' and not just the 12
[2:22:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes the doubling
[2:23:10 PM] Sirius 17: the cores as Elders
[2:23:48 PM] Wyzard97:

Revelation 4:10
The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

Revelation 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Revelation 5:14
And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Revelation 11:16
And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

Revelation 19:4
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
So all of those codes are interwoven and also validated in association with the GOT as NOT having beeen composed by some ancient human scribe(s) subject to editing.
[2:31:36 PM] Wyzard97: I mean the nmumber codes of course.
[2:31:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes i agree
[2:32:28 PM] Sirius 17:
Cowards.
What is this place for?
Yes, well I know full well what you think it's for, but look at you.
If I started to reveal what I'm all about and what I could could tell you, Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy would be all over me like a rash over a whore. That's why I came here. I thought it would be a good thing to do. I learned from an unfortunate early encounter that this wasn't the case. Some people here may think I'm the class clown. You know what I really am?
No. I'm not going to tell you. Suck on it.
I will tell you what I've gleaned though. You're all looking in the wrong place. You want inside info? You want to know who the Anunnaki are? You want the real story? Keep looking. You'll never find it. It isn't something you would understand even if someone were to kindly take your hand and coax you through it.
You are farmed units. Your lives have no meaning. You are supposed to be ignorant, stupid, reactionary chumps. Well done.
Do you honestly think you pose any threat whatsoever to the people who run this world? Wow.

[2:32:38 PM] Wyzard97: And some idiotic Nabs morons believe that some Roman smartarses not only 'invented' Jesus, but also 'invented' all those intricacies from Genesis to Isaiah to Ezekiel and Daniel and the Revelation
[2:32:44 PM] Sirius 17: looks like this Borden guy pissed them off by challanging their nabs
[2:33:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, one can only wonder
[2:33:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes well its obvious they could not invent the codes since many of them came from different scribes
[2:33:56 PM] Sirius 17: and times
[2:34:20 PM] Wyzard97: But this could also be another 'Frank O'Collins' or Keshe quasi scientist, never mind the classical disinformers Bill and Kerry interview
[2:34:46 PM] Sirius 17: but they don't see this, they take the literal translations and look at how those have manipulated the entire world for thousands of years and think it must be a conspiracy
[2:34:59 PM] Wyzard97: Ask one question in all of this: Is whoever posts honouring the Logos and the GOT?
[2:35:18 PM] Sirius 17: lol who does that Tony?
[2:35:53 PM] Wyzard97: If they put Logos first and consider the 'Resurrection' factual and the 'Virgin Birth' encoded; THEN I will take them serious
[2:35:55 PM] Sirius 17: no this guy has as big of an ego as the nabsters he is putting to trial
[2:36:08 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, this is what I sensed too
[2:36:31 PM] Sirius 17:
Default Re: The aliens really demons....
Why do you think that, Wind?
Does it appeal to the archetypal forces of your subconscious mind? Is it a good story? Are you someone who has detected the whiff of control and bull**** in the mystery religions? Why are you so quick to fall for another mythos???
Upon what is your belief based? Does it feel nice? Does it make sense of the jangle of polarities within your id? For (insert deity)'s sake! Is this all there is? Are we cattle? (No offense, Paul).
Do you know what a Djinn is? Have you encountered one?
I am perilously close to spilling various things I HAVE encountered and DO know in this place. You know why? Because it appalls me to hear this kind of new age hypno-speak. Good aliens? Bad aliens? Angels? Demons?
I'm reminded of this lyric from someone brilliant:
'Little man dimensionless, don't dare look to the sky,
your brain will sing, your mind will turn, your eyes will pop and fry'.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. And very often the best available option is to push it in, because it's never going to understand a &$*%ing thing you tell it.

another one of his posts
[2:38:00 PM] Sirius 17: it is amusing though how he is taking them to tax on their beliefs and the fact they blindly believe everything on the internet
[2:38:34 PM] Sirius 17: i am sure he will be banned shortly lol
[2:39:43 PM] Sirius 17: but i did find it interesting that this discussion was on ETs, angels and demons....once again another hot topic that they cannot seem to get around without getting everyone inflamed
[2:41:15 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the last post's ending is very good

[2:41:56 PM] Sirius 17: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1277-From-futurist-Stephan-A.-Schwartz-Trends-That-Will-Affect-Your-Future----/page27
[2:42:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes his ego clashes with Bill's and we know who 'runs' the data dissemination on PA
[2:42:14 PM] Sirius 17: this is interesting what giovanni found, last post on this cyprus crisis
[2:42:35 PM] Sirius 17: turns out i guess their banks have been a haven for dirty Russian money, much like swiss banks
[2:42:44 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
[2:43:59 PM] Wyzard97: Oh yes and they dont want to lose the 'overseas investors'
[2:45:42 PM] Sirius 17: yeah this could be potentally serious for Europe
[2:46:44 PM] Sirius 17: also over the week Chase bank had some computer glitch and ATM's were showing 0 balances
[2:46:55 PM] Sirius 17: people thought they had been hacked
[2:47:02 PM] Wyzard97: When money becomes a 'problem', then 'start a war' has been the motto since the medieval kings could not 'pay' their goldsmiths as the original bankers, who 'paid' their 'courts' and 'armies'. This how money became invented as less 'cumbersome' to carry about, than actual gold coins
[2:47:05 PM] Sirius 17: paranoia is at an all time high with the banks here
[2:48:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes and that is exactly what will happen to distract people
[2:48:28 PM] Sirius 17: even if places like Korea and Iran pose no serious threat, they will pick one or both to invade
[2:48:34 PM] Sirius 17: if shit hits the fan
[2:50:30 PM] Wyzard97: Contingency planning yes, but this will be Logos authority with human wanna bes the filtered down effects
[2:51:45 PM] Sirius 17: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57097-New-Avalon-main-site-is-under-construction
[2:51:48 PM] Sirius 17: last post
[2:52:00 PM] Sirius 17: looks like Bill is revamping the forum again
[2:52:23 PM] Wyzard97: Yes he does not want another Abrax issue
Selfdestruction mode if you ask me. Same at Moa now
[2:53:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes seems he has to always reinvent himself
[2:53:26 PM] Sirius 17: keep the donations coming in
[2:53:33 PM] Sirius 17: now that 2012 is over lol
[2:53:41 PM] Sirius 17: onto another conspiracy
[2:56:00 PM] Wyzard97: Waiting for the Annunaki and Nibiru and the NWO informers and insiders - exclusive to Bill Ryan and/or Kerry Cassidy
[2:56:22 PM] Sirius 17: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57133-Large-asteroid-heading-to-Earth-Pray-says-NASA
[2:56:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes and they totally misread things like this
[2:56:50 PM] Sirius 17: all because some editor thought it would be funny to use the headline
[2:58:32 PM | Edited 2:58:48 PM] Wyzard97: And expecting the 'flushing out' of the the evil Reptoids in their underground bases and their hide-outs on Mars and Phobos and the Moon

[3:00:54 PM] Sirius 17: and gun freaks still obsessing over Sandy Hook as if it was some conspiracy to snatch all the guns...totally ignoring the fact that their little world is full of mentally ill people who can and do perpitrate these kind of things. They totally missed the lesson of those babies dying....makes me nauseous they can be so blind.
[3:01:17 PM] Wyzard97: I dont bother anymore with Nabs like this Raven. I did this mammoth post on Nibiru and noone could make heads or tails of this TLTR 'factual science'
[3:01:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know, no one reads the truth
[3:02:55 PM] Wyzard97: As you know, Thuban did its own symbolic 'remembrance' for those 'babies' and this relates to this latest chart now as dead alive daughters and sons
[3:03:42 PM] Wyzard97: Imo Sandy Hook was a 'cosmic plaque' for the thousands of UNNAMED children dying all over the globe in wars, atrocities, starvation and diseases
[3:03:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is what i meant, their deaths have significant meaning for us all
[3:04:07 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
[3:04:07 PM] Wyzard97: Why I made it relate to the '24 Elders'
[3:04:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes and this was beautiful
[3:04:37 PM] Wyzard97: And the '24 Elders' are made manifest Now in this Logos timeline
[3:04:50 PM] Wyzard97: And who knows about it Raven?
[3:04:53 PM] Wyzard97: You and I
[3:05:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:05:52 PM] Sirius 17: the Logos will spread the news i feel
[3:06:08 PM] Sirius 17: in manifestation
[3:06:32 PM] Sirius 17: silly skype
[3:06:50 PM] Sirius 17: i am lagging again
[3:07:13 PM] Wyzard97: It is already 'spread' in the higher worlds, where it actually counts for much more, than old world recognisances
[[:09:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes i feel that
[3:19:41 PM] Sirius 17: Tony
[3:20:24 PM] Sirius 17: maybe you should leave out the stuff about Xeia, she will misinterpret this again
[3:21:28 PM] Sirius 17: i just don't want to reinforce whatever BS is going on in her mind about us
[3:22:25 PM] Wyzard97: No, this is the truth here and we have nothing to hide
[3:22:54 PM] Wyzard97: Let your aye be aye and your nay be nay remember?
[3:23:09 PM] Wyzard97: If other people wish to play mindgames let them
[3:23:57 PM] Wyzard97: But we can end talking now. But as you see I edited and talked for an exposition of the chart and the code relevances
[3:25:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes i understood that
[3:25:08 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia is ok, she simply should realise her own Logos and how this might not be the Cosmic Logos, but her individualised one
[3:25:50 PM] Wyzard97: This has been a misunderstanding from the start
[3:26:04 PM] Wyzard97: Thinking Tony's Logos is the Cosmic Logos
[3:26:25 PM] Wyzard97: And Raven's GOT is the Cosmic GOT
[3:27:05 PM] Wyzard97: The convergence of the latter is very high and this is why you can understand the TLTR much better than anyone else on the forums
[3:27:50 PM] Wyzard97: Aptitude, intent and interest are qualifiers not 'royal birth' or 'bloodlines' etc
[3:29:21 PM] Sirius 17: well anyone can understand as well as I have if they desire it, I am no better then the next person.
[3:29:29 PM] Sirius 17: i just wanted to know
[3:29:33 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed, same with me
[3:29:50 PM] Sirius 17: i asked God to know
[3:30:00 PM] Sirius 17: to show me
[3:30:14 PM] Sirius 17: give me eyes to see
[3:30:24 PM] Wyzard97: But true or deeper understanding demands effort and hard work of using your mind and most dont want this, especially if they doubt the validity of the scrolls
[3:30:40 PM] Wyzard97: This is such a hindrance, as you might fathom, this doubt
[3:30:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can see how many struggle with it
[3:31:21 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the numero uno block in people like Susan and DD and most
[3:31:56 PM] Wyzard97: Then some egocentric drive to 'self-validate' becomes a driving mental force
[3:31:57 PM] Sirius 17: i can't doubt it though, i did at one point in my path, because of misunderstandings brought on by the dogma from churches ect. I turned away from it, they do make it a turn off.
[3:32:30 PM] Sirius 17: but i could never turn from Jesus's teachings and gnosis
[3:32:33 PM] Wyzard97: Yes of course and this is like an 'obscuration' by the 'thief of the night'
[3:32:37 PM] Sirius 17: this stayed in my heart
[3:32:43 PM] Wyzard97: It is hard to find the 'narrow path'
[3:33:14 PM] Sirius 17: i knew the churches definition and understanding of who is his was wrong
[3:33:20 PM] Sirius 17: too limted
[3:34:40 PM] Sirius 17: and their ideas of what constitutes sin was in error, i never could buy into that concept of original sin, but i can see now where the misinterpretation came from
[3:40:52 PM] Sirius 17: the churches and organized religion as a whole have prostituted the entire Biblical message into one of guilt, shame, fear and all that BS. I always knew that the Bible could not be of private interpretation and that only by the Logos giving someone understanding could it be known and understood. I knew I would have to set aside my own ego to be shown anything as well as false humiliity. But really the GOT is truly what did it for me, when I read these words
(108) Jesus said, "He who will drink from my mouth will become like me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed to him."
[3:41:12 PM] Sirius 17: the first time i read this i knew what Jesus was trying to tell me
[3:41:36 PM] Sirius 17: and it really is that simple
[3:44:03 PM] Sirius 17: how come people just can't look through his eyes?
[3:45:35 PM] Sirius 17: stupid organized relgion has scared anyone off from doing so
[3:46:54 PM] Wyzard97: Because it means you are 'claiming' your cosmic inheritance and birthright and this is interpreted as 'arrogance' and 'smart know it allness' by the human minds
[3:48:19 PM] Sirius 17: i am a smart ass because i wanted to know who the real Jesus is?
[3:49:02 PM] Wyzard97: 'Following Jesus' NOT as a guru, but as the Cosmic Bridge is rather different than what the 'blind believers' do
[3:49:08 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[3:49:19 PM] Wyzard97: And more than that; you are hated because of it
[3:49:57 PM] Sirius 17: indeed we are
[3:50:15 PM] Sirius 17: this blows my mind truly
[3:50:34 PM] Sirius 17: if Jesus is of no consequence and a fraud and some made up BS, why hate us
[3:50:43 PM] Wyzard97: It is why he said not many can 'truly follow him and bear their own crosses'
[3:51:29 PM] Wyzard97: Because any real seeker will find the necessity for the existence of the Logos, just on scientific grounds alone
[3:51:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes this was always clear to me
[3:52:13 PM] Wyzard97: But this Religion-Science schism has led most, educated academics and amateurs, astray
[3:52:23 PM] Sirius 17: the ever present intelligence of the creator within creation
[3:52:30 PM] Wyzard97: The Big Bang requires Logos for instance
[3:54:24 PM] Wyzard97: Yes. you found the truth in your own way; simply in having a faith in your own logic of looking at all data which is available atm in this time
[3:54:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes why Einstein is so admired, he saw the connections and quoted it that science without relgion is blind and vs versa
[3:55:06 PM] Wyzard97: See you are everything but a 'puppet follower'. The ones calling you that are the puppets, following their limited human mind perspectives
[3:56:57 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, NOT dismissing the GOT and other scripture and NOT dismissing real science as some evil conspiracies gave you a solid foundation to find what you were looking for
[3:58:07 PM] Sirius 17: sometimes i feel that these nabs people would have us burn all the books...like Devakas, astounding to me she could say such a thing. I wonder what she would say if someone suggested to burn all the Vedas. Dark age thinking like this is what has humanity by the balls. They are afraid of what we as a human being are capable of knowing.
[4:00:06 PM] Sirius 17: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57086-Information-and-Links-on-the-Blue-Brain-Project&p=650950&highlight=blue+brain#post650950
[4:00:15 PM] Sirius 17: look at this how terrified they are to know
[4:00:46 PM] Sirius 17: this blue brain research is pretty phenominal actually
[4:01:06 PM] Sirius 17: they are attempting to map the entire human brain neuron by neuron in 10 years
[4:01:20 PM] Sirius 17: they are using a mini super computer atm to mimic a rat brain
[4:01:43 PM] Sirius 17: but these nutjobs at AV2 are freaking out
[4:02:03 PM] Sirius 17: omg we might understand how a rat thinks
[4:02:11 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and since December 21st and the rebirth in the higherD, 'Gaia's Legacy' in the humanity of 'her children' has indeed awakened in a way, which is now accelerating
What our Starplanet post was all about - TLTR of course for the know it betters
[4:03:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes they would rather discuss the conspiracy of learning rather then learning anything
[4:03:24 PM] Sirius 17: to know is to loose fear of it
basic principle of life
[4:06:02 PM] Sirius 17: oh the fact this research was funded by DARPA makes it conspiracy all over lol
[4:06:38 PM] Sirius 17: but its such heavy science you can see that not many are taking an interest in the thread anyhow
[4:06:39 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, they fear their own potential genius
[4:06:43 PM] Sirius 17: TLTR
[4:07:30 PM] Sirius 17: exactly and the responsibility that it entails to know
[4:07:58 PM] Sirius 17: but we are mad scientists Tony....lol
[4:08:08 PM] Sirius 17: nutters
[4:08:11 PM] Wyzard97: If Hitler, Mussolini or whatever megalomaniac funds some potent astrophysics or science for whatever purpose and this research discovers a fact about the universe, should we dismiss the facts for the 'nebulous purposes' of the funding?
[4:08:37 PM] Wyzard97: The Nabs idiots never think even that deep
[4:08:47 PM] Sirius 17: the nabsers and conspiracy nuts would tell you yes, refute it, its dangerous
[4:09:04 PM] Wyzard97: They are like the self-righteous pharisees and sadducees of Jesus' days
[4:09:11 PM] Wyzard97: And he called them hypocrites
[4:09:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes pretending to know without actually double checking themselves
[4:09:38 PM] Sirius 17: they were pretenders
[4:09:50 PM] Wyzard97: And you need look no further than the posters on the Nabs forums to see them all being here again, hating the ones that tell the truth
[4:09:55 PM] Sirius 17: had they really known they would of recognized him
[4:10:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes same scenario all over

[4:10:29 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed
[4:12:19 PM] Sirius 17:
this reminds me of the black abbot of westminster abbey.
back when england and the catholic church were really at war,
some of the jesuits fled to england and set up private practice at the behest of the royalty.
this is when the english monarchies got into black magic and alchemy, if my research proves accurate.
those jesuits really knew their science and were very far ahead of the norm.
if anything things used to be more closed and compartmentalized in the past than they are now.
i think it's because of feudalism and monarchies, they knew that knowledge was power and they kept better secrets than modern politicians.
in fact i would imagine that the modern jesuit order is a bit more tame because their position is no longer in peril as it once was.
you should really read up on the Vatican partnership with CERN that was announced a while back.
CERN is working on the Blue Brain Project, which I call the World Brain Project. it's ugly, it's sin, it's evil as the pit,
and it's coming to a vatican near you.

[4:12:29 PM] Sirius 17: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57038-The-New-Pope-A-High-Jesuit-NWO-Exposed&p=650072&highlight=blue+brain#post650072
[4:13:09 PM] Sirius 17: ugly, sin, evil to the pit Tony lol
[4:13:26 PM] Wyzard97: Oh dear, Carol would lick it up and Susan too and dont forget oxy
[4:13:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes more fodder for the conspiracy cannons
[4:14:00 PM] Sirius 17: *KABOOM*
[4:14:04 PM] Sirius 17: LOL
[4:14:08 PM] Wyzard97: It is of course true, that the RCC had the 'Knowledge' from the middle ages before the Renaissance and the Gutenberg Printing press
[4:14:18 PM] Wyzard97: They were the only ones that could read and write
[4:14:26 PM] Sirius 17: god forbid

[4:14:33 PM | Edited 4:14:54 PM] Wyzard97: So this becomes the 'evil conspiracy' of the monks and nuns
[4:15:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes and thankfully someone did perserve the ability in those times. according to the nabs freaks we should all be nuked back into the dark ages.
[4:16:01 PM] Sirius 17: its not the knowledge that is corrupting this world, the technology, all that
[4:16:20 PM] Sirius 17: its the ignorance and lack of responsibility of what to do with that knowlege
[4:16:34 PM] Sirius 17: GREED and MONEY have taken over
[4:18:13 PM] Sirius 17: but if you took everything that we know up to date and actually removed money out of the equation and put the word 'humanitarian' in its place, imagine what could be done....like this guy on the Ted talk about cattle grazing and Aubry De Grey and his pursuit of ending aging associated death
[4:18:38 PM] Sirius 17: they are not in it for the money
[4:18:57 PM] Sirius 17: to turn a quick buck
[4:19:03 PM] Wyzard97: Now you are 'seeing' the 'New World'
[4:19:14 PM] Sirius 17: most intelligent people understand that money and consumerism is not sustainable anyhow
[4:19:28 PM] Wyzard97: Science IS the 'Universal Language' of Zephaniah.3.9
[4:20:07 PM] Wyzard97:

Zephaniah 3:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent.

[4:20:26 PM] Wyzard97: And this includes an end to the old religions
Being replaced by Logos Omni-Science, including all things now termed 'spiritual'
[4:21:27 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
[4:22:39 PM] Wyzard97: Then you are to 'reeducate' the nutters who 'hate and misunderstand' who this 'Lord' is
[4:23:28 PM] Wyzard97: It is you sitting on the 'Throne of the Thinking Loveheart and Feeling Lovemind' in 'Heaven' and AS your Oneness waveexpressed in individuality in the manyness in incarnation
[4:26:05 PM] Sirius 17: hehe Tony you have a poetic way with words
[4:26:32 PM] Wyzard97: I know that
[4:26:59 PM] Wyzard97: But it is also convoluted and TLTR to 'keep the babble away'
[4:27:48 PM] Sirius 17: unfortunately i cannot do as you ask because i am seen as a walking lung disease 'know it all' brat who lacks humility
[4:28:05 PM] Wyzard97:

(93) "Do not give what is holy to dogs, lest they throw them on the dung-heap. Do not throw the pearls to swine, lest they [...] it [...]."

[4:28:26 PM] Sirius 17: so very true
[4:28:29 PM] Wyzard97: Now you are realising your true ID Raven
[4:29:29 PM] Sirius 17: hehe
[4:29:48 PM] Wyzard97: 'Knowing THE ALL', does not imply that you 'Know IT All'; if you can discern the colossal difference here
[4:30:36 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus KNEW The All; he did not Know IT All. I guess, he did NOT know differential calculus or computer science or how to weld metals together
[4:31:00 PM] Sirius 17: of course, but i can at least pursue to know it all, i never claimed to know it all
[4:31:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes true
[4:31:23 PM] Wyzard97: To the nabsers, it is all the same
[4:31:32 PM] Sirius 17: but he did understand where he came from
[4:32:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes well and this is the rub isn't it
[4:32:16 PM] Sirius 17: surely if we know the ALL we must know it all
[4:32:21 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, this is 'Knowing The All' and ALL is German for Universe as Weltall (World of all things)
[4:32:23 PM] Sirius 17: this is what they think
[4:32:56 PM] Sirius 17: and because we don't and Jesus didn't we don't qualify as truth
[4:33:12 PM] Wyzard97: Because you are the universe in the cocooned 'bodymorph', Jesus could ascend the human condition of the 'not knowing' aka the 'original sin' or 'primordial ignorance' or unconsciousness of Barbelo, which was also the original ignorance of 'God' himherself before he bacame a He All Knowing and a She Knowing Nothing at all
[4:33:18 PM] Sirius 17: show me any guru or enlightened human who knows it all
[4:33:46 PM] Sirius 17: this is the encompassment they fail to see
[4:34:07 PM] Sirius 17: and cannot submit to
[4:34:59 PM] Wyzard97: I said something profound in the above
[4:35:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see
[4:35:29 PM] Wyzard97: So the 'Original and First Sinner' was God as a FatherMother
[4:35:38 PM] Wyzard97: Lol, can you see this?
[4:35:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes lol
[4:36:14 PM] Wyzard97: And 'God' transferred hisher sin to Adam and Eve to make them solve the cosmic dilemmas
[4:36:38 PM] Wyzard97: FOR Him WITH Her now divided as Father+Mother
[4:36:54 PM] Wyzard97: This was required to solve the cosmic cul de sacs
[4:37:08 PM] Wyzard97: And guess what this present timeline is doing?
[4:37:30 PM] Wyzard97: It 'solves' the dilemmas
[4:37:52 PM] Wyzard97: THEN FatherMother=Father+Mother=FatherMother+MotherFather
[4:38:13 PM] Wyzard97: The doubling of the original AS the solving of the dilemmas
[4:38:44 PM] Wyzard97: Brilliant and ingenious eh?
[4:38:55 PM] Wyzard97: But now we are being arrogant know-it-alls again
[4:38:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[4:39:03 PM] Sirius 17: hehe

[4:39:34 PM] Wyzard97: Because we are parroting the 'Nous and Knowing' of the Logos and NOT our human mindedness and understandings
[4:40:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes we are reflecting the truth
[4:45:35 PM] Wyzard97:

Isaiah 28:8-10 King James Version (KJV)
8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

14 Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.

15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

[4:47:04 PM] Sirius 17: [4:45 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a littleh i like this one
[4:48:00 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it describes a lot of work

[4:48:12 PM] Sirius 17: it is very true, you cannot teach someone to read before he understands the meanings of the letters on the page
[4:48:19 PM] Wyzard97: Isaiah is just a great book
[4:48:28 PM] Wyzard97: It was Jesus' favourite too
[4:48:56 PM] Wyzard97: It is relevant to NOW and this age of the 21st century beginning
[4:49:58 PM] Wyzard97:

Isaiah 62:6-8 King James Version (KJV)
6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence,

7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.

8 The Lord hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:

[4:50:08 PM] Wyzard97: This one often gave me hope to carry on
[4:50:35 PM] Sirius 17: yes it describes you to a T
[4:51:22 PM] Sirius 17: its beautiful
[4:54:40 PM] Wyzard97: [4:49 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< 7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.Who do you think 'they' are?

[4:54:58 PM] Wyzard97: The ones who watch and 'give no rest'?
[4:55:11 PM] Wyzard97: Dont say it, but you know.
[4:55:12 PM] Sirius 17: well the dead
[4:55:25 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+58&version=KJVj
[4:55:27 PM] Wyzard97: And the ETs yes.
[4:55:39 PM] Wyzard97: Call them angels and demons if you must
[4:55:53 PM] Wyzard97: Waveformative Intelligences
[4:55:54 PM] Sirius 17: gah i cant edit it

it won't let me
[4:56:30 PM] Sirius 17: i like this one though
[4:56:33 PM] Sirius 17: 58
[4:58:17 PM] Wyzard97: Delete the last j
[4:58:24 PM] Sirius 17:

10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:
11 And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

[4:59:20 PM] Sirius 17: there i fixed it
[4:59:54 PM] Wyzard97:

Isaiah 58 King James Version (KJV)
1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.

3 Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.

4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the Lord?

6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the Lord shall be thy reward.

9 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:

11 And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

[5:00:24 PM] Wyzard97: Yes a very fitting chapter
[5:00:50 PM] Wyzard97: [4:59 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< 12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
This is the Alchemy Chart to the dot
[5:01:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is
[5:01:02 PM] Wyzard97: The Lineage Cosmic redefined
[5:01:23 PM] Wyzard97: Besides you, who could see this, seriously?
[5:01:51 PM] Sirius 17: i don't know dear, i know you see
[5:02:08 PM] Wyzard97: And this is Jesus' doing not mine. Again, who can discern and know this?
[5:02:12 PM] Sirius 17: i know some see in part
[5:02:40 PM] Sirius 17: no you did not cause me to see
if that were the case they would all see
[5:05:15 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2060&version=KJV
[5:05:20 PM] Sirius 17: i like this one too
this one gives me hope
[5:09:06 PM] Wyzard97: yes we used this as introduction on the New World thread
[5:09:33 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember, i just like it
[5:09:35 PM] Wyzard97: It has the ET code in it.
[5:09:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes lol
[5:09:40 PM] Wyzard97:

8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

[5:09:44 PM] Sirius 17: yep
[5:11:15 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2019&version=KJV
[5:11:22 PM] Sirius 17: this one is interesting about Egypt
[5:11:30 PM] Sirius 17: i looked it up because today is the 19th
[5:12:39 PM] Wyzard97: 20th here and it is 11:11 pm your way so in 49 minutes it is equinox day in Seattle
[5:13:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes

[5:14:09 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2024&version=KJV
[5:14:33 PM] Sirius 17:

23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

[5:14:55 PM] Wyzard97: You are DISCOVERING the relevance of Isaiah to the present time here
[5:15:10 PM] Wyzard97: Knowing the GOT, you can see this straight away
[5:15:32 PM] Sirius 17: well i looked up 24 because i thought it relevant maybe to the 24th coming up
[5:15:47 PM] Wyzard97: Now we have Doc Raven medical as Raven Doc Philosophica as Theologian
[5:15:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes its all talking about now
[5:15:58 PM] Sirius 17: clearly
[5:16:31 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, again who can see this? And without mental 'coercions', as say I am often accused of engaging in?
[5:17:17 PM] Wyzard97: You see know, how tired I am of human mindedness in terms of about everything EXCEPT real science?
[5:17:19 PM] Sirius 17: well i doubt even anyone reading this can see it Tony
[5:17:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes i totally understand
[5:17:55 PM] Sirius 17: and i can relate
[5:18:01 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the 'Ancient of Days' is simply Abba returned in incarnated 'Adams' or Romeos
[5:19:00 PM] Wyzard97: He finally 'has a bodyform' to inhabit as nicely said in Revelation.22, right at the end when finally the 'Face of God' can be seen and is no longer a 'Burning Bush' as per Exodus.3
[5:20:02 PM] Wyzard97: So James, Rok, Tony, Bill Ryan,...anyone IS Abba IF they can discern their cosmic IDs and 'overcome' their human mindedness
[5:20:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[5:20:52 PM] Sirius 17: he is those eyes staring back at me in everyone
[5:21:08 PM] Sirius 17: whether they know or not, i know
[5:21:48 PM] Wyzard97: And Raven, you know that microsoft's skype no longer saves the chats past a certain time; so I am saving now what i consider is 'worth saving' and of relevance
[5:22:08 PM] Sirius 17:

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

[5:22:16 PM] Sirius 17: no i didn't know that? really
[5:22:25 PM] Wyzard97: Another step backwards many are ignorant of
[5:22:51 PM] Wyzard97: Well I lost all chats farther back than 3 months
[5:22:53 PM] Sirius 17: microsoft really screwed skype up
[5:22:59 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[5:23:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes and I lag often
[5:23:05 PM] Sirius 17: my chats don't send
[5:23:13 PM] Sirius 17: and i have connetion to the net
[5:23:21 PM] Wyzard97: But this is all about 'proficiency'
[5:23:28 PM] Sirius 17: i can browse web pages yet my chat won't send
[5:23:43 PM] Wyzard97: More and more gimmicks, not many want and lack of the basic substance
[5:24:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes they have monopolized the entire platform with their rediculious crap software
i really dispise this windows 8 stuff
[5:24:45 PM] Sirius 17: its like advertisment in your face
[5:25:05 PM] Sirius 17: i feel like my computer has been turned into a freaking app store
[5:25:36 PM] Sirius 17:

(106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will move away."

[5:25:41 PM] Sirius 17: 114 relates to 106
[5:25:56 PM] Sirius 17: and also 108
[5:26:05 PM] Sirius 17: its all interconnected lol
[5:28:00 PM] Wyzard97: Naturally Cosmically Archetypologically
[5:28:32 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%208&version=KJV
[5:28:39 PM] Sirius 17: this is pretty heavy

[5:28:42 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, they can keep W8 for the time being
[5:29:37 PM] Sirius 17:

21 And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.
22 And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness.

[5:29:54 PM] Sirius 17: this is now actually
[5:30:15 PM] Sirius 17: pretty much how people have felt since 2012 seemed to be a big zilch lol
[5:30:19 PM] Wyzard97: yes
[5:30:49 PM] Wyzard97: It is a mixture of despondency and gloomy outlooks
[5:31:32 PM] Wyzard97: Just look at Syria and the inability of the UN to do anything about it, except set up refugee camps in neighbouring countries
[5:31:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes and their civil war is spilling over all around them
[5:32:03 PM] Sirius 17: they have attacked places in Lybia now
[5:32:26 PM] Sirius 17: apparently they are not recognizing borders lol
[5:33:42 PM] Sirius 17: it is such a horrible humanitarian disaster now and growing worse by the day
[5:33:51 PM] Wyzard97: The 'experts' are realising, that there are 'jihad factions' in the 'Syrian rebels'; just as the Afgan rebels in their war against the Russian invaders were 'weapon supplied' by the US and allies and then turned the 'weapons' against their own suppliers
[5:34:07 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[5:34:17 PM] Sirius 17: and they predicted this long ago
[5:34:20 PM] Wyzard97: So it is one big 'international mess'
[5:34:25 PM] Sirius 17: before they ever armed them, that this could happen
[5:34:42 PM] Wyzard97: With no way out in political democracies and 'nation builders'
[5:35:10 PM] Wyzard97: You dont hear half of it in mainstream media OR alternative Nabs
[5:35:33 PM] Sirius 17: like the NRA, the military industrial complexes idea of making things better is MORE GUNS!!!
[5:36:02 PM] Wyzard97: Some documentary channels do give insights, but this is TLT View for the many
So the data is available, but ignored by mainstream and alternatives
[5:37:50 PM] Sirius 17: well there is good research out there too if you know where to look. But the economic hit men did most of this crap, instilling civil wars to rob these countries of natural resources....most of the bribery didn't work with the middle east though. It did in Africa and other 3rd world nations.
[5:38:24 PM] Sirius 17: so many weapons they put into their hands
[5:38:52 PM] Sirius 17: with the edict they will kill off all the rebels and be able to buy out the remianing regime
[5:39:01 PM] Wyzard97: If not machetes to hack people to death, then gunslingers and knives
[5:39:24 PM] Wyzard97: Its the way to 'boost the economy'; didn't you know?
[5:39:36 PM] Sirius 17: of course and steal natural resources
[5:40:06 PM] Sirius 17: the whole Iraq war was the biggest ruse ever
[5:40:29 PM] Sirius 17: it stimulated our economy into demise though lol
[5:40:46 PM] Sirius 17: but guess who got richer?
[5:41:07 PM] Wyzard97: The financiers of the war of course
[5:41:27 PM] Wyzard97: First thing they did is 'oversee' the Iraqi oilfields
[5:41:29 PM] Sirius 17: weapons manufacture, halliburtons and the other wealthy investors in the machine
[5:41:59 PM] Wyzard97: It takes some political genius mind to figure that one out
[5:41:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes its all about securing those oil fields
[5:42:18 PM] Sirius 17: the rest is just a cover story
[5:42:27 PM] Sirius 17: including the 911 disaster
[5:42:32 PM] Wyzard97: A 'Think Tank' of the money exchanger and aristocrats, Raven
[5:42:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can see Jesus tipping their tables like at the synagog
[5:43:07 PM] Wyzard97: Isaiah 2013 Daniel 2013 Revelation 2013
[5:44:26 PM] Sirius 17: well people are waking up to it, look at the Arab Spring
[5:44:32 PM] Wyzard97: Actually it starts with Genesis 2013 and has Ezekiel 2013 before Daniel 2013
[5:45:19 PM] Sirius 17: i think the youth in the middle east can see the writing on the wall and wanted to over throw these regimes before they also had themselves an Iraq war episode
[5:45:48 PM] Sirius 17: but the USA is orchstrating this whole mess along with Israel
[5:46:02 PM] Wyzard97: This is the 'Zeitgeist' Raven it is global
[5:46:47 PM] Wyzard97: The west has only begun to experience the 'fiscal restraints'. This was everpresent in the developing nations all the time
[5:46:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is global
[5:47:34 PM] Sirius 17: well world domination costs money, and they have broken this country with it
[5:47:59 PM] Sirius 17: people still dont see it
[5:48:05 PM] Wyzard97: It is worldwide beyond human repair mode Raven
[5:48:15 PM] Sirius 17: too busy bickering over the stalemate in the government lol
[5:48:23 PM] Wyzard97: This human civilisation is kaput
[5:48:40 PM] Sirius 17: not realising it is a stalemate in human intelligence
[5:48:48 PM] Wyzard97: It is only a question of time and WHEN the Logos intervenes per some ET visible presence
[5:48:57 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know WHEN truly
[5:49:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes i don't think its IF, but when
[5:49:16 PM] Sirius 17: the IF is out of the question now
[5:49:18 PM] Wyzard97: But I know what must become happenstance before this can manifest
[5:49:35 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is fait accompli!
[5:51:39 PM] Wyzard97: Sic transit gloria mundi!
[5:52:48 PM] Wyzard97: Cherchez la Femme!
[5:53:10 PM] Wyzard97: Cosi fan tutte!
[5:53:10 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
[5:54:22 PM] Sirius 17:

22 For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king; he will save us.
23 Thy tacklings are loosed; they could not well strengthen their mast, they could not spread the sail: then is the prey of a great spoil divided; the lame take the prey.
24 And the inhabitant shall not say, I am sick: the people that dwell therein shall be forgiven their iniquity.

[5:54:31 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2033&version=KJV
[5:54:59 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, WHEN not IF!
[6:01:04 PM] Sirius 17: its raining like hell here
[6:02:37 PM] Sirius 17: http://ttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+66&version=KJV
[6:02:45 PM] Sirius 17: i had not read 66 all the way
[6:03:00 PM] Sirius 17:

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

[6:03:50 PM] Sirius 17: this is also what i have felt and others too, that it will be a moment of utter knowing
[6:04:34 PM] Sirius 17:

18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.

[6:06:59 PM] Wyzard97: Rather familiar 'territory' and 'landscape' for real Thubans, yes?
[6:07:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes very heavy stuff here
[6:07:37 PM] Wyzard97: And you know, what I feel this 'glory' must be?
[6:08:13 PM] Wyzard97: Lol, you are 'getting to know' WHY I did this for 18 years now since MI's 'transformation'
[6:08:32 PM] Wyzard97: I read Isaiah long before I knew much about the GOT
[6:08:51 PM] Wyzard97: The GOT simply nailed everything into place
[6:09:09 PM] Wyzard97: And confirmed, what i thought Isaiah meant to say.
[6:09:52 PM] Sirius 17: well ABBA's glory would be establishing his covenant and the new earth, the end of division
[6:10:12 PM] Sirius 17: to see his beloved
[6:10:17 PM] Sirius 17: his femme
[6:10:19 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this covenant is between Abba and the few who can BE Noah
[6:10:54 PM] Wyzard97: Those must be cored New Adams, who rebirth themselves in denying their human lineages
[6:11:38 PM] Wyzard97: In a roundabout manner, Susan (and many others) knows this and tries to redefine herself; unfortunately in the Nabs way and not Logos way
[6:12:15 PM] Sirius 17:

66 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

[6:12:19 PM] Sirius 17:

(66) Jesus said, "Show me the stone which the builders have rejected. That one is the cornerstone."

[6:12:33 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and the 'house' is the new bodymind
[6:12:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes well we know this and can see it clearly, but they cannot
[6:13:13 PM] Wyzard97: You can call it lightbody, but it is much more than just an 'escape' from the mortality
[6:13:24 PM] Sirius 17: where is the place that Jesus will lay his head to rest? oh where oh where could it be?
[6:13:28 PM] Wyzard97: Like Xeia seems to believe
[6:13:48 PM] Wyzard97: Adam's 'place of repose'
And Eve's of course
[6:16:43 PM] Sirius 17: no the redemption is of the earth, she will not be distroyed, just the BS human minds that are as a plague
[6:17:54 PM] Sirius 17: Tony the last line of 66 is really heavy
[6:17:58 PM] Sirius 17:

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

[6:18:35 PM] Sirius 17: is this talking about the ones who don't have light bodies being an abhorring to all flesh?
[6:20:00 PM] Wyzard97: The carcases are the old humans, who have not become 'hybridised'. This is oxy's 'great fear' in his Sherry Shriner monstrosity nabs
[6:20:37 PM] Sirius 17: well this will happen
[6:20:41 PM] Wyzard97: The 'undying worms' are of course their 'unrelalised dragonhood' as their cosmic legacies
[6:20:59 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes that makes sense
[6:21:00 PM] Wyzard97: Recall 'Beelzebub' calling me 'worm' on June 5th, 1976
[6:21:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[6:21:21 PM] Sirius 17: catapillar lol
[6:21:31 PM] Sirius 17: waiting to become butterflys
[6:22:08 PM] Wyzard97: The 'fire' is THEIR unwilling realisation, that the dragonhood is the starhumanity. They become the 'ones outside the open gates' of the New Jerusalem in Revelation.22
[6:22:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is what i thought
[6:22:44 PM] Wyzard97: Fire of the femme cosmic as half of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone and as the CJ

THEY can always and are invited to 'come in', but are to fearful and ashamed to accept the invites
[6:25:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes well they lack the proper 'arrogance' lol
[6:25:54 PM] Sirius 17:

1 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:
3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

[6:26:05 PM] Sirius 17:http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+45&version=KJV
[6:26:21 PM] Sirius 17: this is interesting i just found this concerning Cyrus
[6:26:47 PM] Wyzard97: [6:25 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< yes well they lack the proper 'arrogance' lol
Very well discerned!
[6:29:09 PM] Wyzard97: The 'surname' is the tricky bit here as the renaming of the X-chromosome with the patriarchial descent becoming matriarchial
[6:29:26 PM] Wyzard97: But this is just the Jesus lineage 'controversy' in Matthew and Luke
[6:29:49 PM] Wyzard97: Now you can see the point behind all of this 'dilemma' for the 'experts'
[6:30:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes well they can't make heads or tails of it
[6:30:39 PM] Sirius 17: it seems like a contradiction but its not
[6:30:58 PM] Wyzard97: So again, this is not an 'idea' of the human parrots Raven and Tony; but it is a correct decoding of the Logos words in the scriptures often older than 2000 years and long before Raven and Tony were incarnate in present form
[6:32:23 PM] Wyzard97: No because Heli is Mary's BioFather to Solomon and David and Jacob in Matthew is Joseph's BioFather to Nathan and David
[6:34:04 PM] Wyzard97: NO biblical contradiction AT ALL, as the skeptics claim all over the place
[6:34:07 PM] Sirius 17: it was all in God's plan to create his mother
[6:34:28 PM] Wyzard97: So Heli is Jesus 'Father in Law' lol
[6:34:39 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[6:34:56 PM] Sirius 17: omg yes it seems so obvious now
[6:34:58 PM] Wyzard97: Easy yes?
[6:35:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[6:35:33 PM] Wyzard97: Well go nabs webbing and you come up with many 'theories', some even partially correct
[6:35:45 PM] Wyzard97: But many utter humbug and yada yada
[6:36:24 PM] Sirius 17: well do many of them even consider the GOT
[6:36:40 PM] Wyzard97: Susan for one cant see much difference in the data and tailor makes all information to her own ideas
[6:36:41 PM] Sirius 17: it really is the key of keys
[6:37:15 PM] Wyzard97: The GOT is considered dogmatic heresy by most historians and theologians
[6:38:13 PM] Wyzard97: It is thrown into the gnostic cauldron of the gnosis BS, just as Thuban science is called crackpot science amidst the 90% of quasiscience which is just that
[6:38:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes its way too 'arrogant' for the theologians, i mean who can take it seriously after all it says:

(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."

[6:38:30 PM] Wyzard97: Just look at you tube 'science videos' a la alternative style
[6:38:50 PM] Sirius 17: looking at the first line of the GOT they dismiss it
[6:39:15 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and isn't this just good - to shut the gate on the hypocrites?
[6:39:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes it shuts it right away
[6:39:47 PM] Sirius 17: who would be arrogant enough to believe those words?
[6:39:50 PM] Sirius 17: haha

[6:40:05 PM] Wyzard97: Well I know two people
[6:41:45 PM] Sirius 17:

(17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

[6:41:58 PM] Sirius 17: there is another door seemingly shut
[6:42:20 PM] Sirius 17: who can think like this?
[6:44:11 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i can see how Isaiah really ties into the GOT
[6:44:30 PM] Wyzard97: Not some Roman aristocrat, who wishes to 'control the people' using ancient myths of Gods and Goddesses
[6:44:43 PM] Wyzard97: Finally!
[6:44:58 PM] Sirius 17:

15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.
16 They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols.

[6:45:38 PM] Wyzard97: It is the Dragon prophecy, because the KJV has dragons and unicorns and screech owls in it. The 'modern bibles' have edited them out in their 'arrogant' belief, that dragons and unicorns do not exist
[6:46:08 PM] Sirius 17: or Leprechauns
[6:46:38 PM] Sirius 17: Carla wrote to a Leprechaun for St. Paddys day
[6:46:44 PM] Sirius 17: and it wrote back hehe
[6:47:03 PM] Sirius 17: his name was O'Malley or something like that, it was cute
[6:47:20 PM] Sirius 17: she left her note on the sidewalk
[6:47:32 PM] Sirius 17: underneath our mail boxes near the apt here
[6:47:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes just waveforms see that?
[6:47:55 PM] Wyzard97: Like in dreams
[6:48:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes i always new they were real
[6:48:27 PM] Wyzard97: The cockatrice and the basilisk of the 'evil eye' are in Isaiah too

[6:48:32 PM] Sirius 17: i loved unicorns
[6:48:51 PM] Sirius 17: and pegasus
[6:48:58 PM] Sirius 17: faireys
[6:51:57 PM] Sirius 17:

19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.
21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.
22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

[6:52:07 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+13&version=KJV
[6:52:19 PM] Sirius 17: Isaiah 13
[6:52:31 PM] Wyzard97: Well, read the end of the entire book now. You will understand it deeper now.
[6:52:37 PM] Wyzard97:

Revelation 21 King James Version (KJV)
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.


Revelation 22 King James Version (KJV)
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


[6:53:29 PM | Edited 6:53:39 PM] Wyzard97: No more sea means no more mirror to REFLECT false images - the idol worship
[6:54:41 PM] Wyzard97: [6:52 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

Here you got the 'open gates' for the goats outside and the sheep inside

[6:55:15 PM] Wyzard97: [6:52 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
Here you have the 'Face of Abba' finally seen
[6:56:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is most definately the light body
[6:56:49 PM] Sirius 17: what else would be a temple without a temple lol
[6:59:33 PM] Sirius 17: stupid skype is lagging again
[7:00:19 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[7:01:04 PM] Wyzard97: I am tired now and might cook something for my old bones
[7:01:33 PM] Sirius 17: [6:52 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
we never took anything away...only added our story
[7:01:43 PM] Sirius 17: as the saints of old did
[7:01:47 PM] Wyzard97: You have as few things to ponder, having become familiar with Isaiah - Jesus' guide book
[7:02:00 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this is another key
[7:02:34 PM] Wyzard97: To ADD and to ABSORB the 'human mind perceived EVIL=VEIL=LIVE=SEX=48=...
[7:03:22 PM] Wyzard97: THEN YOU take away 'the ignorance and sins of the old world', just as Jesus did
[7:03:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[7:03:49 PM] Wyzard97: Because you manifest their devils and demons and evil dragons beliefs
[7:04:01 PM] Wyzard97: So they WILL have something to FEAR
[7:04:06 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
[7:04:44 PM] Sirius 17: ok sweety i will let you go eat
[7:04:46 PM] Wyzard97: From nonexistent human mind made 'devils' of fiscal systems to real dragons flying about and amongst city constructs in the sky
[7:05:10 PM] Wyzard97: Hanging over their heads and something THEY can see and ponder and 'worry about'
[7:05:18 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[7:05:19 PM] Wyzard97: Buenas Raven
[7:05:24 PM] Wyzard97: Take care

[7:05:29 PM] Sirius 17: you too hon
[7:05:50 PM] Sirius 17: i hope you have sweet dreams
[7:06:24 PM] Sirius 17: (F)(heart)(F)
[7:07:55 PM] Wyzard97: I am resigned aka retired and have few expectations under my circumstances in the Old World
[7:08:29 PM] Wyzard97: But I have a new core now in extended waveform
[7:08:45 PM] Sirius 17: well from the ashes of the fire the seed will sprout
[7:09:05 PM] Sirius 17:

4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.

[7:09:17 PM] Sirius 17: i just saw this in Isaiah 1
[7:09:26 PM] Wyzard97: We will see, if this applies in any individual sense soon enough. It remains a question of WHEN and not IF
[7:09:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes as i have always known
[7:10:12 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, Isaiah is as rich and extensive in application as is the GOT and the Words of Jesus
[7:10:13 PM] Sirius 17: it will come
[7:10:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes i had read parts of it before
[7:10:51 PM] Sirius 17: but its more lucid now it seems
[7:11:13 PM] Sirius 17: of course my mind is not burdened with school atm either
[7:11:20 PM] Wyzard97: Bueana Notte, your way. Equinox is a little less than 3 hours now.
[7:11:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes its 1:11 now
[7:11:48 PM] Wyzard97: I dragged this convo out as testimony to this March-Easter Equinox 2013
[7:11:51 PM] Sirius 17: i am getting tired, i should go to bed but i miss James lol
[7:12:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw you have shared it
[7:12:44 PM] Wyzard97: Well it was a witness post and I shared it for the handful of people who will ever be aware of it atm

There is a lot of new and potent data in this message
[7:13:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes and it all ties in with your alchemy chart
[7:15:22 PM] Wyzard97: Very very much so. There is a Logos guidance here
[7:15:57 PM] Wyzard97: Whoever reads this will gain 'inspiration'; but this is not our decision
[7:16:16 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia will read it and this is appropriate
[7:17:05 PM] Wyzard97: There will be 'magnetic attraction' to this post; but again beyond our agency
[7:17:30 PM] Wyzard97: There will be little to add following March 25th
[7:18:08 PM] Wyzard97: But all of this is the 'Mid March Crisis', so many nabsers and otherwise are tuning into
[7:18:15 PM] Sirius 17: yeah equanox energized
[7:18:20 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[7:18:54 PM] Wyzard97: April 10th, New Moon in Aries completes the lunar cycles
[7:19:12 PM] Sirius 17: the two moons?
[7:19:31 PM] Wyzard97: Then countdown to 2013 'Ascension Thursday, May 9th and Pentecost May 19th
[7:20:13 PM] Wyzard97: The New Moons and Sabbaths are dynamic but end the Armageddon-Babylon on the March 25th date
[7:20:44 PM] Wyzard97: So the next New Moon from March 25th must be the fulfilment of the Sabbaths
[7:20:53 PM] Wyzard97: This is added to the alchemy chart
[7:21:24 PM] Wyzard97: Rok's birthday and Xeia's as the July 2nd and April 14th cross reference
[7:21:35 PM] Wyzard97: I dont think they ever saw this clearly
[7:21:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes or didn't understand the significance i guess
[7:22:29 PM] Wyzard97: It is the March 24th date as the 'River' Hiddekel day in Daniel
[7:23:23 PM] Wyzard97: The 'River' is the Kuxaan Sum of the Maya as the 'Street Home' and the Milky Way as the Ouroboros and the Nile and so on
[7:23:24 PM] Sirius 17: oh
[7:23:37 PM] Wyzard97: The Mazzaroth in Job is the Zodiac of the Alpha-Omega
[7:25:05 PM] Wyzard97:

Daniel 9:25
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Revelation 22 King James Version (KJV)
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

[7:25:45 PM] Wyzard97: See it now - clearly?
[7:25:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[7:25:59 PM] Sirius 17: wow
[7:26:00 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Street'
[7:26:07 PM] Sirius 17: the river of life
[7:26:20 PM] Wyzard97: This DEFINES March 24th, wait!
[7:27:07 PM] Wyzard97:

Genesis 2:14
And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

Daniel 10:4
And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;

[7:27:28 PM] Wyzard97: Remember the 'Kings in Revelation' come 'from the East'?
[7:27:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes lol 4 and 20th day omg MI
[7:28:06 PM] Sirius 17: the 24th
[7:28:07 PM] Wyzard97: Yes The first month is March not January in the scriptures
[7:28:35 PM] Wyzard97: With the Equinox Julian being 2-3 days after the Gregorion of today as March 20-21
[7:29:03 PM] Wyzard97: So March 24th is in Daniel AS Jesus birthday Julian
[7:29:11 PM] Wyzard97: No matter what the Nabsers invent
[7:29:20 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[7:29:38 PM] Sirius 17: no wonder her death triggered all this
[7:29:48 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed
[7:30:15 PM] Wyzard97: She simply became MY MARY, but the REAL ONE, not a historical invention
[7:30:38 PM] Wyzard97: MI is your Mary too though, once she becomes individualised from the universal
[7:30:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes and everyones
[7:31:04 PM] Wyzard97: This is what this chart describes in self consistent, but relatively simple derivations
[7:31:33 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is simply the XsYd chromosome of any Old Eve
[7:31:54 PM] Wyzard97: Now tell me just WHAT creates the human body?
[7:32:05 PM] Wyzard97: From seemingly nothing much at all?
[7:32:15 PM] Wyzard97: The human sex chromosomes - bingo!
[7:32:20 PM] Sirius 17: i saw Jesus in her from the begining though when i first looked at her photo....i knew this was no ordinary woman from Australia but something much bigger
[7:32:23 PM] Wyzard97: Fill in your own stories now
[7:32:46 PM] Wyzard97: As MY personification as Cosmic Mother Yes
[7:33:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes the combining of the 23 chromosomes from the father and 23 from the mother the zygote contains all the data to create a human being
[7:33:39 PM] Wyzard97: But she is also the sisterhood and her universality THROUGH Jesus ascended is and MUST be personalised OR no cores can form with cosmic potency of the JCCJ blending and hybridisation
[7:34:05 PM] Wyzard97: This is the 'Body of the Resurrection' never mind the scoffers
[7:34:24 PM] Wyzard97: All dead alive ones 'span the entire universe' AS WAVES
[7:34:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[7:34:53 PM] Wyzard97: So the 'uniqueness' of MI IS the uniqueness of Jesus UNTIL it is multiplied in domino mirrors
[7:34:59 PM] Sirius 17: not hard to understand if you know a little physics
[7:35:43 PM] Wyzard97: So Rose is MI and the old Queen Victoria and Cleopatra and the young mother in Somalia who has starved to death and the butchered holocaust victim
[7:36:21 PM] Wyzard97: BUT WHO can 'believe those reports', as clearly set down in the codes?
[7:36:26 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus did!
[7:36:36 PM] Sirius 17: yes he did
[7:36:48 PM] Sirius 17: how else would he of known what to do
[7:37:22 PM] Wyzard97:

Isaiah 53:1
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

[7:37:26 PM] Wyzard97: Isaiah again
[7:37:43 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
[7:38:03 PM] Wyzard97: This applies to EVERYONE! So scripture and Logos deniers, eat your short and limited vanities
[7:38:31 PM] Sirius 17: haha
[7:38:33 PM] Wyzard97: This is why the GOT says: "Whoever eats with my mouth..." - your favourite illuminator
[7:38:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes no mincing words there



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• Allisiam - Posted Mar 20th 2013
  
  Spring Equinox March 2013: Banish the Chill…Holy Fire!
  
  
  Spring Equinox 2013: March 20, 6:02 AM EST. Sun moves into Aries.
  
  
  
  
  Happy Astrological New Year! As the Sun moves into Aries, the first sign of the zodiac, the earth renews itself into Spring crying “I AM!” The first shoots appear above the ground, the air warms with Aries fire, the Sun intensifies. The Sun God Resurrects. And, Persephone comes back from the Land of The Dead, Maiden once more.
  
  The moment of the Equinox sets the tone for the season, and this one is full of creative imagination, high emotion, impulse and sudden changes.
  
  A big Grand Trine of Neptune, Mercury, Chiron in Pisces trine Moon in Cancer, trine Saturn retrograde in Scorpio tells us of a harmonious emotional energy. The poetry of life translates into easier expression, and the creation of beauty seems natural.
  
  March will bring the wind once more
  Sound the final battle call
  Relaease the flow of rising streams
  
  Unbury the Dead now staining the snow
  And you know we will always be
  born to die again
  Let the winds be...A melody
  --Backworld
  
  
  
  Things that have been in slow slogging motion speed up now. Mercury went direct on the 17^th, and things move forward. However, there is still the shadow phase to contend with, so we can still expect those moments of “did I REALLY just say that?”. (Yes, you probably did.)
  
  Mars conjunct Uranus in Aries is like the Tower card come to life. Bam! It’s all different now. After all the Piscean watery nebulousness that changed things through a slow dissolve, this fiery blast of energy might seem refreshing. But it’s a shock to the system, none-the-less. Venus and the Sun are close on the heels of these two planets, so the upset could have to do with changing the course of one’s heroic journey to create more vitality. With Venus still in Pisces, self-worth could still be a factor regardless of how much bravado is on the surface. Still, this change is REAL, and marks a new era of development. A bold step into Life!
  
  Now here's the thing...We DO still have the Uranus/Pluto square that has been in progress for the 2 years, changing and liberating us from that which is of an older era; some of us have experienced significant stress with the dramatic changes that have occurred. These have been years of tremendous upheaval collectively, and those of us with planets in the early cardinal signs (Aries, Cancer, Capricorn and Libra) are feeling it with the most intensity.With the Piscean stellium we've recently experienced, there was major change, but it happened in a way that was more subterranean and subtle. But now we have FIRE! Mars in Aries conjunct Uranus activates this energy once again, firing things up for more excitement. We are suddenly AWAKE!
  
  
  
  The Equinox is a moment of balance between Light and Dark. The Light moves into its season of victory. The heart can open up in an awe inspiring and beautiful and painful way, with the Light illuminating that which was in shadow for many months. This is the mythical egg hatching; that which has been growing and developing is ready for action in Aries!!!! The shoots come up through the ground and see the light of day, with but not without struggle; they must prove their ability to grow and hold their own now. That which is really strong and healthy will emerge with power and moxie, and grow stronger under the Sun's love and warmth.
  
  The Sabian Symbol for 0-1 Aries is: "Woman Just Risen From The Sea; A Seal Is Embracing Her".
  Sainte-Marie-de-la-Mer, aka Saint Mary Magdelene of the Sea, is the carrier of the grail as Her very womb. She Herself IS the Graal. After The Sun God's death and resurrection, which she was to witness and grieve, she went to Egypt, and then was sent adrift out into the sea from Egypt, landing in southern France. There She has been celebrated. She is often depicted as the "Black Madonnas" throughout Europe, most notably in France. Black in this context means "unknown" or "unrecognized". She is the true lover and spouse of the God.
  
  Mary Magdelene holds the symbol of the red egg as witness to the Resurrection of the Son God. So, here's the story: The douche-bag Ceasar said unto her, "Oh what you're telling me is bullshit! If a man can actually rise from the Dead, then that egg you hold will turn red." Well, surprise, sucka! It did! The Red Goddess is the Lover, the Witness and the Oracle. She betrays nor hides Her eyes, and she hold the promise of new life in Her red egg. The passion of LIFE! Red, like the color for the sign of Aries. She reminds us to be present and passionate, always.
  
  The struggle of the polarities of Light and Dark in ourselves produce both treasures and poisons. It is up to us to decide what to focus on, as anything we focus on becomes BIGGER. Understand that what or even who has been exiled, consciously or unconsciously, will show up with a special force now. That which has been put out to the sea is called home now; the Sun is brightening, and He has been resurrected as Spring!!!.This happens within each of our psyches now, as reflected in the cycles of Nature.
  
  What does Spring mean to you?
  http://www.aeprilsastrology.com/2013/03/spring-equinox-march-2013-banish.html
  
  
  Voyager 1 Has Apparently Left the Solar System [CORRECTED]
  
  By Phil Plait
  Posted Wednesday, March 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM
  
  
  
  
  Voayger 1, launched in 1977, has apparently crossed the boundary between the solar system and interstellar space. This diagram shows it and its sister spacecraft, Voyager 2 (below Voyager 1) leaving the solar system behind. Click to boldlygoenate.
  Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech​
  
  
  [Correction, March 20, 2013: I wrote the piece below after reading a press release from the American Geophysical Union (AGU) and after reading the professional science journal paper announcing the results. Just after posting this I received a press release from NASA/JPL quoting Ed Stone, the Voyager project scienist, saying "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space. In December 2012, the Voyager science team reported that Voyager 1 is within a new region called 'the magnetic highway' where energetic particles changed dramatically. A change in the direction of the magnetic field is the last critical indicator of reaching interstellar space and that change of direction has not yet been observed."
  [Emphasis mine.] I then received a follow-up press release from the AGU also backing off the claim of Voyager leaving the solar system.
  This is what I was alluding to in the third-to-last paragraph in the post below, why I emphasized the announcement from December, and why I was using the word "apparently" a lot. I did base this on what I read in the original press release and paper, but given the new JPL release I take responsibility for any statements I wrote making this seem firmer than warranted.
  I'll note there is some argument over what constitutes the boundary of the solar system. The transition region I describe below is one such boundary, but as Dr. Stone says the region where the magnetic field direction changes is a better, final one. I'm satisfied with this. Interestingly, the JPL press release doesn't define what the boundary of the heliosphere itself is, which strikes me as smart. These are not really definitions so much as concepts, since a hard edge is usually difficult to come by in astronomy.
  So to be clear, the science of what I describe below is accurate enough, but the idea that Voyager 1 has left the building is not. The original text of the post is below. UniverseToday.com has a good article on this as well.]
  
  It looks like humanity may have become the Earth’s first interstellar species.
  The spacecraft Voyager 1, launched on Sep. 5, 1977, has apparently left the solar system.
  A new paper has just been released showing that Voyager 1 has definitely breached the edge entered into a new part of the Sun’s heliosphere, the huge region around the solar system dominated by the Sun’s solar wind. This is essentially confirmation of what had already been announced in December 2012, so this isn’t exactly new news, but given the paper has been peer-reviewed and accepted for publication, this makes it official.
  
  
  Voyager 1, our emissary to the galaxy. Click to ilianate.
  Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech​
  So what does this mean?
  The Sun blows out a wind of subatomic particles at high speed, and these flow out and past the inner planets, into interstellar space. At a distance of roughly 18 billion kilometers, about four times the distance of Neptune from the Sun, that wind is slowed to a stop by slamming into the particles that exist between the stars, what we call the interstellar medium.
  That point where the solar wind stops is as good a definition of the edge of our solar system as any other. And Voyager 1 is now on the other side of it.
  Back in December 2012 it was announced that there were very strong signs that Voyager was passing through the doorway to interstellar space. Just at the poetically-named heliopause—where the solar wind stops—the characteristics of the environment change. We give the generic name of “cosmic rays” to particles zipping around space, and the ones from the Sun have a very different energy, in general, than the ones past the heliopause that come from the greater galaxy around us.
  
  
  
  
  
  This graph, from the paper, shows the number of solar cosmic rays (in blue, labeled "A") drops suddenly at the same time galactic cosmic rays (red and black, labeled "B" and "C") rise steeply (note the scales are different, but the important part is the sudden change). This happened on Aug. 25, 2012.
  Image credit: Webber and McDonald​
  
  
  The new paper shows that on Aug. 25, 2012, Voyager 1 reached the point in space where it detected that change, just as was previously announced. In a matter of days, the number of solar cosmic rays dropped precipitously, and the galactic cosmic rays ramped up at the same time.
  This means that for real and for sure, Voyager 1 has left the heliosphere.
  So where is it now? Well, we have to be careful. This is literally unexplored territory. Most models of how the heliosphere works have a fuzzy boundary between inside and outside (though Voyager 1 is definitely outside). There could be another region outside of that, for example, though no one is sure. More data from Voyager 1 may be able to clear that up over time.
  But either way, it has slipped the surly bounds of the Sun’s influence and is still moving with enough velocity to carry it out into the galaxy. Our proxy, our envoy, is heading out to the stars, where it belongs.
  It’s just the first. There will be many more, some of which are already well on their way. Someday, perhaps, we may join them.
  http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/03/20/voyager_1_the_spacecraft_has_apparently_left_the_solar_system.html
  
  The Voyager 1 spacecraft is a 722 kg (1,590 lb) space probe launched by NASA on September 5, 1977 to study the outer Solar System and interstellar medium. Operating for 35 years, 6 months, and 15 days as of 20 March 2013,^[2] the spacecraft receives routine commands and transmits data back to the Deep Space Network. At a distance of about 123 AU (1.840×10¹⁰ km) as of November 2012,^[3][4] it is the farthest man-made object from Earth. It is still unclear if Voyager 1 is the first man-made object to leave the heliosphere and enter interstellar space.^[5][6]
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot
  
  
  In his book Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space, astronomer Carl Sagan related his thoughts on a deeper meaning of the photograph:^[14]
  From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of any particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
  The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
  The Earth is the only world known, so far, to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment, the Earth is where we make our stand. It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.
  
  http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html
  
  (20) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like."
  He said to them, "It is like a mustard seed. It is the smallest of all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."
  
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  I shall forever remember Earth as The Blue Dot!

 

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SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Mar 20th 2013


you keep saying...that i support NABS stuff
however, there isn't one example of NABS stuff
that i share, or support
i have sent you a few links of stuff - for you to tear apart
however, that doesn't mean i support it
could you please clarify, what i have shared that is NABS ???

Thank you

 

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Mar 21st 2013

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THE13thBRiDGE-SUSAN - Posted 5 Hours Ago

you keep saying...that i support NABS stuff
however, there isn't one example of NABS stuff
that i share, or support

i have sent you a few links of stuff - for you to tear apart
however, that doesn't mean i support it

could you please clarify, what i have shared that is NABS ???
Thank you
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Dear Susan!
I share following the words Raven said to you and they describe my 'criticism on your Nabs' rather well.
Everyone in this timezone and spacial region in the universe is by nature embedded in what you can call the 'Earth's Cocoon' or a 'Cosmic Egg-Ovum' of incubating a 'New World' when the times are appropriate to do so.
There is both a collective and an individualised planetary consciousness and the collective one is what produces the multitude of 'feedback loops' and information, which is then individually 'processed' in the filtering system of the individual consciousness and results in the personal viewpoints and opinions and belief systems.
Now what I mean with Logos, is related to some sort of 'knowledge' and understanding (gnosis=science=insight), which is not only a collective of the Earth Cocoon and its history (yes and including all of your geni lineages); but spans whatever intelligence resides in the universe at all timeas and at all places.
This Logos then is related not to some human wise man (or manwoman), who was born of human parents and learned the wisdom in Tibetean caves or whatever native guru or wisdom keeper or elder you might image; but some form of 'energy' related to what is called mind or 'Cosmic Consciousness', which has and had to exist even before the physical universe (again with all your lineages) and even before any time or space could exist.
A more detailed description of the hows and whys are found in the 'Lucifer's Mirror' message here:
Lucifer's Mirror and the Emancipation of the Oneness
http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=446FBFE4-7F58-48D3-851F-3298C324827F&fid=40362A3C-C855-49F3-9206-BF665EDA6541
Now you and everyone alive of incarnated in the present past or future has part of this 'omni-scient' Logos as part of their own genetic makeup and so their 'Cosmic Lineage' residing within themselves as part of their own cosmic history of body-spirit-incarnations etc etc.
When I then call you or anyone as 'Nabs infected', I dont mean this in any derogatory manner, but as a recognition of the human factor subject to the ordinary human mindedness and as embedded in whatever 'mental environment' the recipients of whatever information find themselves in.
Your human mindedness becomes coupled to all of your experiences and serve as a reference frame for your choices and decision makings and this is then what Raven and me term the 'Little Logos'; still part of the 'Big Logos', but subject to the human environments, both mental and physical.
So to detail some of your 'Nabs statements', you have supported over the years, I have had the pleasure to interact with you and let me say here, that your support of the Dragon Logos and Dragon World is honoured and appreciated, despite certain 'belief structures' on which do not synchronise and harmonise very well.
a) Your 'belief' that Rhesus-Negative blood types bestow a particular 'specialness' on the carrier; often used by Nabs channels to speculate on Jesus-Mary Magalene bloodlines and many other 'derivatives' in descendencies - rather then viewing the blood types as a statistical genetic variation distribution.
b) Your 'belief', that Jesus might have a 'tomb' in India and that he was just one of many 'wisdom keepers' and is not cosmically unique as the Logos and the bridge between the human world and the ET cosmos
c) Your 'belief' that there are a number of conspiracies regarding the Roman Catholic Church regarding the Jesuits and other factions; apart from the historical factuality, that the RCC was the sole depository for academic knowledge in reading and writing for hundreds of years from say the time of Jesus until the renaissance and the 'invention' of the printing press allowed a 'reeducation' of the greater populace. This is no way infers, that there are no 'secret political shenanigans' occuring in the RCC as part of the global ptb manipulation of the populus across all nations.
d) Your 'belief' in related 'secret agendas', say in your 'stronger Nabs', exemplified in say Obama being a clone of Isama Bin Laden or the Sandy Creek massacre having been a conspiracy plot.
Apart from this, you have discerned some Nabs topics like the Nibiru nonsense or the 2012 apocalypse rather well and your thread on alternative medicine and 'healthy cuisine' are excellent, as are your affiliations with the Indigenous time keeping methods and calendars. And you know very well, that I have supported your efforts in those avenues at all times and consistently.
It was not my intention to offend your sensibilities Susan and if you were in some manner offended by my critique regarding your Nabs, which is part and parcel of everyones mental environment, because of the human collective group consciousness, then I would like to make clear to you, that I did not mean my critique personally, but collectively and encompassing the global human mentality.
Serafina Flys Again across the Dragon Sky!
Tonyblue


[6:46:17 AM-Wednesday, March 20th, 2013 --7UCT] Sirius 17: [9:32:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: is this raven ?
[11:30:36 AM] Allisiam: Default Re:
The Potentiality Of Love- A letter from Bill - Posted 19th March 2012 by Eva Moore.
The Bill in question is ex-navy seal Bill Wood/Brockbrader interviewed here by Kerry Cassidy for Project Camelot. The letter appears in it's entirity here and has some more information not mentioned in Smat's OP.
[11:30:44 AM] Allisiam: not the same Bill Susan
[11:30:51 AM] Allisiam: and yes this is Raven
[11:31:02 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: ohh
[11:31:07 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: what am i doing wrong ?
[11:31:14 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: to get strange comments from tony ?
[11:31:28 AM] Allisiam: yes if you read further down in the post you can see that the orignal poster confused everyone
[11:31:38 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i've always been very supportive of everything he does
[11:31:58 AM] Allisiam: what do you mean dear? strange comments?
[11:35:08 AM] Allisiam: and Tony knows you have been supportive of his work Susan

<<< [12:16 PM] THE13THBRIDGE:
<<< Wyzard97: No fucking false humility in Jesus as there is in say Susan
why compare me to jesus
i am proud of my bloodlines - and, so, i should be - part of my dna is passed grandmother to grandmother
in what way; is my humility false ?
was jesus, not proud of his family
although; his mother and father - were twins
mother older than father
and; jesus was adopted by joseph; who really wasn't his actual father
maybe; he was a divine intervention

[11:40:28 AM] Allisiam:

( 101) "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not love his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. For my mother [...], but my true mother gave me life."

[11:40:58 AM] Allisiam: he is talking about his true linage here Susan, which is spiritual and not of bloodlines
[11:41:26 AM] Allisiam: and your desire to trace your linage back through the bloodlines is fine but it is not where the true inheritance comes from dear.
[11:42:05 AM] Allisiam: so in this statement Jesus is saying his true mother and father are ABBABAAB the original creator of this universe and all in it
[11:42:16 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: STILL he is unkind - why single me out ?
[11:42:27 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i know; true lineage comes from many different places
[11:42:45 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or; like taking personal communication
[11:42:55 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: about RICHARD AND CELINE and, putting it out there in public
[11:43:02 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: he didnt need to do that
[11:43:29 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: its tacky
[11:43:52 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, this closes down people; to want to interact with him
[11:43:55 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: he isn't perfect either
[11:44:11 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: very likely jesus wasn't perfect til te last 33 days of his life
[11:44:16 AM] Allisiam: he is not singling you out, but he knows that you do not accept Jesus and your understanding of who he is has been confounded with all the NABS background. If you truly wish to know Jesus he isn't to be found in some channeling. I suggest reading the GOT and Isaiah from the KJV to understand more.
[11:44:31 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i don't have a NABS background
[11:44:36 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: that isn't true
[11:44:50 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: - i don't follow anyone
[11:44:54 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: never have; and; never will
[11:45:03 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; you need a reality check on that comment
[11:45:18 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: KJV was written by moral men
[11:45:21 AM] Allisiam: Tony is not asking you to follow anyone, not even him, he is a messanger plain and simple and his message is too deep for most
[11:45:28 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: did they allow any women to write ?
[11:46:11 AM] Allisiam: [11:45 AM] THE13THBRIDGE:
<<< KJV was written by moral men
this is exactly why you don't understand, while yes it may of been written by men those writings came from the Logos, they were inspired by its spirit Susan
[11:46:34 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i understand the logos
[11:46:52 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: without the need of a bible
[11:47:04 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: jesus is an example
[11:47:24 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: he isn't the only son of god

[11:48:03 AM] Allisiam: you understand your Logos Susan, but not the universal one, this is what he meant when he said you identify with your own Logos....everyone has both a personal Logos and then there is the true real LOGOS...the latter you have yet to realize.
[11:48:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: perhaps; that is your high and almighty opinion
[11:49:21 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: which, i doubt you are able to see mine
[11:49:34 AM] Allisiam: no its not my opinion Susan, there is only one universal Logos and i submit to it....Jesus knew it and identified with it
[11:50:33 AM] Allisiam: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html
[11:50:37 AM] Allisiam: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+1&version=KJV
[11:50:50 AM] Allisiam: but don't believe me, find out for yourself
[11:51:22 AM] Allisiam: and a hint to you when reading these things, Israel in this context is YOU and me and anyone else reading it, speaking of Isaiah
[11:51:58 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; is is-ra-el related to
[11:51:59 AM] Allisiam: because you think the bible being written by men is just some ordinary thing is the reason you cannot see it
[11:52:05 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: isis ra and, elohim ?
[11:52:26 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: where did they cook up that name
[11:52:29 AM] Allisiam: no Israel is exactly what I said, its everyone
[11:52:30 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: in the 50's ?
[11:52:36 AM] Allisiam: it is not land or a place on earth
[11:52:45 AM] Allisiam: it is your body
[11:52:48 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: lineages say otherwise
[11:52:59 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: the study of going thru my own genie; has been quite interesting
[11:53:07 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: seeing the irish verson to magagod
[11:53:12 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or; back to adam
[11:53:18 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or; back to abrahim
[11:53:36 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: funny thing; i know it was called palestine
[11:53:58 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: why would they change the name ?
[11:53:59 AM] Allisiam: yes you can see your physical linages just fine Susan, but the important one is the spiritual linage and what you came here to claim as your birthright.

[11:54:19 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; how do i do that ?
[11:54:45 AM] Allisiam: identify with the one thing you understand the least....Jesus and who and what is he
[11:54:54 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i have the ships all appearing in the sky
[11:55:00 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i figured out the spiral part
[11:55:00 AM] Allisiam: from the bible and from the GOT and not some channeler on the web
[11:55:18 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i don't get anything from channelers on the web
[11:55:27 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i am not sure; where you get that 'flakey' idea from
[11:55:33 AM] Allisiam: read his words, they are LIVING words in the bible
[11:55:34 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i have at times; tossed stuff tony's way
[11:55:40 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: for him to tear apart
[11:55:52 AM] Allisiam: and the only way to understand them is to see them through his eyes, you have to set your ego aside
[11:56:00 AM] Allisiam: imagine yourself as him
[11:58:40 AM] THE13THBRIDGE:

Isaiah / ישעיהו . MP
Birth: -778
Death: -698 (80)
Immediate Family:
Son of Amoz / אמוץ .
Husband of The Prophetess Princess of Southern Kingdom of Judah
Father of Hephzibah / חפצי-בה אשת חזקיהו; Pele joez El gibbor Abi-ad Sar Shalom / פלא יועץ אל גבור אביעד שר שלום .; Shear Yashuv Prince of Southern Kingdom of Judah; Maher Shalal Hash Baz / מהר שלל חש בז . and Emmanuel / עמנואל .

[11:58:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: is that; the one
[11:58:57 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: who wrote those words
[11:59:08 AM] Allisiam: yes they are words on a page Susan but those words have something behind them and that something is the Logos
[11:59:24 AM] Allisiam: speaking of the Bible and the GOT
[11:59:42 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: so; what do i read
[11:59:51 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: the whole of his writings ?
[11:59:52 AM] Allisiam: i gave you the links above
[11:59:57 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: he was my great grandfather; i think
[12:00:26 PM] Allisiam: the gospel of thomas, which is only 114 passages and the book of Isaiah
[12:00:37 PM] Allisiam: the book of Isaiah is all talking about now
[12:01:08 PM] Allisiam: and in that it refers to Israel, when reading that word i will remind you to think of it as yourself
[12:03:08 PM] Allisiam: so when God chastises Israel he is speaking of those who do not know him and follow after their own ways and the ways of idols, worshiping others and self instead of the one who made you.
[12:03:20 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i'm confused a bit here
[12:03:34 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: the word 'israel' was written in the bible
[12:03:42 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: in what year ?
[12:03:52 PM] Allisiam: but he also makes a promise to Israel and the whole book of Isaiah talks about this and how he will redeem it
[12:04:00 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i understand
[12:04:05 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: when you read is-ra-el
[12:04:06 PM] Allisiam: ISRAEL is your body susan, its everyone
[12:04:08 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: you activate
[12:04:16 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: a triad; trine; and; a trinity within you
[12:04:30 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: that leads to a bridge
[12:04:45 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: no one listens to anything i say - so; i sometimes wonder; why do i bother
[12:04:53 PM] Allisiam: no one listens to God either
[12:05:10 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: some of us; are hit by his thunder bolts
[12:05:20 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: maybe that is a different form of listening
[12:05:45 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: maybe it might be an idea
[12:05:58 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: to write it; in today's equv. of english language
[12:06:12 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: most people find 2000 year old stuff; pretty hard to read
[12:06:33 PM] Allisiam: anyhow sweety, i need to get going, but do take the time to read those links i gave you and set aside all your thoughts....really try to imagine what Jesus and the Logos is trying to say and there is some reading between the lines, not all is literal ok.
[12:07:00 PM] Allisiam: you do understand the symbols and archetypes
[12:07:09 PM] Allisiam: let those speak to you
[12:07:14 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: thanks
[12:07:18 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: you know; i'll read it
[12:07:28 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; rewrite it; as; we see it
[12:07:35 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: might be an idea for all of us; to do that
[12:07:51 PM] Allisiam: you are living the story hon
[12:07:57 PM] Allisiam: your life is the rewrite
[12:08:23 PM] Allisiam: and your understanding is the key to activating it all
[12:08:56 PM] Allisiam: can you see yourself as Jesus?
[12:13:00 PM] Allisiam: btw Isaiah is 66 chapters and you can just type it in the bible gateway bar there to pull up the directory with all the chapters. I am reading it myself from chapter one through 66.
[12:26:16 PM] Allisiam: Israel and Jerusalem are the same thing also, the holy city is your body.
[12:28:52 PM] Allisiam: also Isaiah is what Jesus read and how he understood himself and it speaks of contact, the ET's who slumber within everyone.

[7:07:16 AM] Sirius 17:

13 For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them, neither do they seek the Lord of hosts.
14 Therefore the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

[7:07:22 AM] Sirius 17: just saw this lol
[7:10:51 AM] Sirius 17:

12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
13 For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:

[7:11:08 AM] Sirius 17: This is Syria in a nutshell, wow this is mindblowing
[7:12:44 AM] Sirius 17: Al-Assad does think of himself this way
[7:18:15 AM] Sirius 17:

11 Shall I not, as I have done unto Samaria and her idols, so do to Jerusalem and her idols?
12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
13 For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:

[1:13:40 PM] Allisiam: look Susan
[1:13:56 PM] Allisiam: this is referring to Syria and Al-Assad the ruler of Syria right now
[1:15:31 PM] Allisiam: its uncanny if you read Isaiah with this in mind that it is speaking of now, many things are very very similar
[1:15:58 PM] Allisiam: why i keep saying that the Bible is like a time machine, and you and your understanding of cycles ect
[1:16:14 PM] Allisiam: the Bible is an orobouros
[1:16:17 PM] Allisiam: of time
[1:16:34 PM] Allisiam: everything is there hidden in the codes and archetypes
[1:17:45 PM] Allisiam: and this is the reason that while it may be just words written by men, they could not of known the future, it was divinely inspired

[7:20:35 AM] Sirius 17:

20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
23 For the Lord God of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined, in the midst of all the land.

[7:20:41 AM] Sirius 17: this is talking about us
[10:42:22 AM] Sirius 17: [9:37 AM] THE13THBRIDGE:
<<< thanks
i'll read this
yes, strangely i can see everyone as jesus - sadly, everyone can NOT see themselves as jesus - irony; isn't it lovely
strangely; i've been drawn to write a gospel of susan
kind of response - to the same things,
i guess; i'll work on that
if that is how, i find my understanding from it
i also saw something weird before i start
dragons 6 of them
almost like a game
i put a lime green one; over a red one
i put a green one ; over an orange one
i put a teal one; over a yellow one
poof --poof--poof
then 6 more dragaons
then 6 more dragons
i put inidgo one over cyan
magneta over acquarmine
and; purple over blue
poof...poof...poof
now; i see the outsides
of 2 star of davids
one on the horizon
one one the vertical
6 points each
so; overlaid they make 12
again i am shown 12 dragons ?
i put red over cyan
orange over acquamarine
yellow over blue
lime green over indigo
green over agneta
and; turq over purple
and; then a river of red washes over it; and; it becomes more purple
then a left spin - shows black
a right spin - show white

[11:20:30 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre92j17q-us-space-voyager/
[11:20:48 AM] Sirius 17: voyager 1 is almost out of the solar system
[11:21:05 AM] Sirius 17: they say it is on the fringe of the heliosphere
[11:41:30 AM] Sirius 17: The Voyager 1 spacecraft is a 722 kg (1,590 lb) space probe launched by NASA on September 5, 1977 to study the outer Solar System and interstellar medium. Operating for 35 years, 6 months, and 15 days as of 20 March 2013,[2] the spacecraft receives routine commands and transmits data back to the Deep Space Network. At a distance of about 123 AU (1.840×1010 km) as of November 2012,[3][4] it is the farthest man-made object from Earth. It is still unclear if Voyager 1 is the first man-made object to leave the heliosphere and enter interstellar space.[5][6]
[11:41:39 AM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1
[1:11:15 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED
[1:11:27 PM] Sirius 17: ok i did a post here tying all this together with the equanox
[1:12:03 PM] Sirius 17: added some astrology on there too, its a little nabsy but i liked how she mentioned the resurection and MM
[1:12:26 PM] Sirius 17: I think Xeia may like it

[6:43:42-Thursday, March 21st, 2013 -+11UCT]Sirius17:
hey Tony how are you?
[7:33:44 PM] Wyzard97: Ok
[7:33:56 PM] Wyzard97: I replied to Susan
[7:34:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes she was upset today
[7:35:37 PM] Sirius 17: did you see that voyager 1 might be out of the solar system now?
[7:36:08 PM] Sirius 17: i thought the annoucement was significant coming on the equinox anyhow
[7:36:24 PM] Sirius 17: it has been almost 36 years since they sent it
[7:39:55 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this is the 37 years again of the Logos incarnation mapping 6BC-32AD and 1975-2013
[7:40:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes i thought the timing again was significant
[7:41:09 PM] Sirius 17: the number of years voyager 1 has been out there
[7:41:18 PM] Sirius 17: i was 10 years old when they sent it
[7:41:27 PM] Wyzard97: I felt strange all night and day
[7:42:39 PM] Wyzard97: The next 5 dys might host another energy shift

[7:42:48 PM] Sirius 17: i am sick tonight
[7:42:57 PM] Sirius 17: i got some kind of stomach upset
[7:43:05 PM] Sirius 17: hurting me really bad
[7:43:29 PM] Sirius 17: something i ate i guess, took some tums and it seemed to help a little
[7:43:53 PM] Sirius 17: what are you feeling?
[7:44:39 PM] Sirius 17: i slept again most of the day
[7:45:29 PM] Sirius 17: i got up to get Carla off to school and i stayed up for a few hours and went back to bed lol.
[7:46:06 PM] Sirius 17: maybe i am trying to catch up on my sleep
[7:48:17 PM] Wyzard97: Chaos
[7:48:29 PM] Wyzard97: Mental chaos
[7:48:55 PM] Wyzard97: Everywhere from the individual to the global affairs
[7:48:57 PM] Sirius 17: with you?
[7:49:10 PM] Wyzard97: I feel the template
[7:49:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see it all over in the news
[7:49:37 PM] Wyzard97: Here in Oz a political coup that just failed weirdness
[7:49:57 PM] Sirius 17: i have been reading Isaiah today slowly
[7:50:09 PM] Sirius 17: googling different names i don't understand
[7:50:24 PM] Wyzard97: Could make you sick
[7:50:25 PM] Sirius 17: its mostly places in Israel
[7:50:32 PM] Wyzard97: All codes
[7:50:49 PM] Sirius 17: make me sick how?
[7:50:57 PM] Wyzard97: Data overload
[7:51:09 PM] Wyzard97: Because it is relevant
[7:51:11 PM] Sirius 17: humm never thought of that
[7:51:20 PM] Sirius 17: but yes i felt it deeply
[7:51:26 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[7:51:28 PM] Sirius 17: i cannot read it fast
[7:51:35 PM] Sirius 17: too much coming to me
[7:52:11 PM] Sirius 17: and i felt disgust today when I read the part that discribed Syria
[7:52:27 PM] Sirius 17: and then the news talked about them using chemical weapons
[7:52:32 PM] Wyzard97: Syria = Assyria yes
[7:52:49 PM] Wyzard97: Sad As
[7:52:59 PM] Sirius 17: it described Al-Assad to a T, he is one vain bastard
[7:53:31 PM] Wyzard97: In bed with the Russians and China, why the UN is lame
[7:53:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes hehe i did not see that....the anagram
[7:54:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes and China is in bed with NK too
[7:54:14 PM] Sirius 17: its all unraveling
[7:54:40 PM] Wyzard97: Obama is with Netanyahu right now too
[7:54:43 PM] Sirius 17: Tony when it talks about Moab, who does that refer to
[7:55:20 PM] Wyzard97: Moab refers to Ruth and Boaz, one of the lineage 'whores' or foreigners of Jesus
[7:55:46 PM] Sirius 17:

7 Therefore shall Moab howl for Moab, every one shall howl: for the foundations of Kirhareseth shall ye mourn; surely they are stricken.
8 For the fields of Heshbon languish, and the vine of Sibmah: the lords of the heathen have broken down the principal plants thereof, they are come even unto Jazer, they wandered through the wilderness: her branches are stretched out, they are gone over the sea.
9 Therefore I will bewail with the weeping of Jazer the vine of Sibmah: I will water thee with my tears, O Heshbon, and Elealeh: for the shouting for thy summer fruits and for thy harvest is fallen.

[7:55:56 PM] Sirius 17: and what is the vine of Sibmah?
[7:55:58 PM] Wyzard97: Tamar and Ruth and Bathsheba are all 'whores' in Jesus matriarchy
[7:56:31 PM] Wyzard97: This is all related to Hosea and the 'illegitemate' children
[7:56:44 PM] Sirius 17: ok the gentiles?
[7:56:54 PM] Wyzard97: Yes gentile bloodlines
[7:57:01 PM] Sirius 17: this is what i thought
[7:57:19 PM] Wyzard97: Read Hosea to compare and you see how the 'Lands' become mothers
[7:57:31 PM] Sirius 17: i googled Sibmah and it is some ancient town in Israel
[7:57:36 PM] Wyzard97: The code is femme=land
[7:57:54 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, you dont get this from wiki
[7:57:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see the femme throughout this
[7:58:22 PM] Wyzard97: Abba 'chastises' Old Jerusalem AS his runaway 'wife' - creation, Barbelo and Old Baab
[7:58:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see that part, what I told Susan
[7:58:57 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I used this in my reply
[7:59:10 PM] Sirius 17: jerusalem and israel are both indicative of those who knew god but turned away
[7:59:15 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed
[7:59:25 PM] Wyzard97: Cosmic Betrayal
[7:59:41 PM] Wyzard97: It never actually refers to humans
[7:59:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes and could be anyone at this point
[7:59:49 PM] Wyzard97: It is anyone
[8:00:06 PM] Sirius 17: but i sense how sad Jesus was reading this
[8:00:27 PM] Wyzard97: Hosea is only 5 chapters, but encapsulates this very poignantly
[8:00:27 PM] Sirius 17: i could feel his sadness for ABBA
[8:00:36 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, he understood the agendah
[8:01:27 PM] Sirius 17: the fatherless one, is that referring to Jesus?
[8:03:30 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, but also to households, whose fathers have died or such
[8:03:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes that was obvious, i saw the hidden meaning though
[8:04:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is related to the 'brothers' caring for their brothers wives etc
[8:04:30 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[8:04:40 PM] Wyzard97: If they dont Abba gets 'wrathful'
[8:05:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes he is not happy with the fake supplication and insense and all that pomp and crap
[8:05:39 PM] Sirius 17: can't imagine how he thinks of the vatican lol
[8:09:59 PM] Sirius 17: hmm CNN just announced that Obama visted the Dead Sea Scrolls today
[8:12:38 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I heard this last night on the news. Netanyahu mentioned the DSS
[8:14:16 PM] Sirius 17: i think i will go lay down sweety
[8:14:29 PM] Sirius 17: maybe it will make my stomach better
[8:15:19 PM] Sirius 17: buenas noches hon
[8:15:42 PM] Sirius 17: (F)(heart)(F)
[8:20:57 PM] Wyzard97: Take Care Raven!


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[11:18:55 AM-Friday, March 22, 2013 -+11UCT]
Sirius 17: http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Planck/Planck_reveals_an_almost_perfect_Universe
ESA > Our Activities > Space Science > Planck



Cosmic microwave background seen by Planck

Planck reveals an almost perfect Universe
21 March 2013
Acquired by ESA’s Planck space telescope, the most detailed map ever created of the cosmic microwave background – the relic radiation from the Big Bang – was released today revealing the existence of features that challenge the foundations of our current understanding of the Universe.
The image is based on the initial 15.5 months of data from Planck and is the mission’s first all-sky picture of the oldest light in our Universe, imprinted on the sky when it was just 380 000 years old.
At that time, the young Universe was filled with a hot dense soup of interacting protons, electrons and photons at about 2700ºC. When the protons and electrons joined to form hydrogen atoms, the light was set free. As the Universe has expanded, this light today has been stretched out to microwave wavelengths, equivalent to a temperature of just 2.7 degrees above absolute zero.
This ‘cosmic microwave background’ – CMB – shows tiny temperature fluctuations that correspond to regions of slightly different densities at very early times, representing the seeds of all future structure: the stars and galaxies of today.
According to the standard model of cosmology, the fluctuations arose immediately after the Big Bang and were stretched to cosmologically large scales during a brief period of accelerated expansion known as inflation.
Planck was designed to map these fluctuations across the whole sky with greater resolution and sensitivity than ever before. By analysing the nature and distribution of the seeds in Planck’s CMB image, we can determine the composition and evolution of the Universe from its birth to the present day.


Planck’s anomalous sky


Overall, the information extracted from Planck’s new map provides an excellent confirmation of the standard model of cosmology at an unprecedented accuracy, setting a new benchmark in our manifest of the contents of the Universe.
But because precision of Planck’s map is so high, it also made it possible to reveal some peculiar unexplained features that may well require new physics to be understood.
“The extraordinary quality of Planck’s portrait of the infant Universe allows us to peel back its layers to the very foundations, revealing that our blueprint of the cosmos is far from complete. Such discoveries were made possible by the unique technologies developed for that purpose by European industry,” says Jean-Jacques Dordain, ESA’s Director General.
“Since the release of Planck’s first all-sky image in 2010, we have been carefully extracting and analysing all of the foreground emissions that lie between us and the Universe’s first light, revealing the cosmic microwave background in the greatest detail yet,” adds George Efstathiou of the University of Cambridge, UK.
One of the most surprising findings is that the fluctuations in the CMB temperatures at large angular scales do not match those predicted by the standard model – their signals are not as strong as expected from the smaller scale structure revealed by Planck.




Asymmetry and cold spot


Another is an asymmetry in the average temperatures on opposite hemispheres of the sky. This runs counter to the prediction made by the standard model that the Universe should be broadly similar in any direction we look.
Furthermore, a cold spot extends over a patch of sky that is much larger than expected.
The asymmetry and the cold spot had already been hinted at with Planck’s predecessor, NASA’s WMAP mission, but were largely ignored because of lingering doubts about their cosmic origin.
“The fact that Planck has made such a significant detection of these anomalies erases any doubts about their reality; it can no longer be said that they are artefacts of the measurements. They are real and we have to look for a credible explanation,” says Paolo Natoli of the University of Ferrara, Italy.
“Imagine investigating the foundations of a house and finding that parts of them are weak. You might not know whether the weaknesses will eventually topple the house, but you’d probably start looking for ways to reinforce it pretty quickly all the same,” adds François Bouchet of the Institut d’Astrophysique de Paris.
One way to explain the anomalies is to propose that the Universe is in fact not the same in all directions on a larger scale than we can observe. In this scenario, the light rays from the CMB may have taken a more complicated route through the Universe than previously understood, resulting in some of the unusual patterns observed today.
“Our ultimate goal would be to construct a new model that predicts the anomalies and links them together. But these are early days; so far, we don’t know whether this is possible and what type of new physics might be needed. And that’s exciting,” says Professor Efstathiou.

New cosmic recipe


New cosmic recipe


Beyond the anomalies, however, the Planck data conform spectacularly well to the expectations of a rather simple model of the Universe, allowing scientists to extract the most refined values yet for its ingredients.
Normal matter that makes up stars and galaxies contributes just 4.9% of the mass/energy density of the Universe. Dark matter, which has thus far only been detected indirectly by its gravitational influence, makes up 26.8%, nearly a fifth more than the previous estimate.
Conversely, dark energy, a mysterious force thought to be responsible for accelerating the expansion of the Universe, accounts for less than previously thought.
Finally, the Planck data also set a new value for the rate at which the Universe is expanding today, known as the Hubble constant. At 67.15 kilometres per second per megaparsec, this is significantly less than the current standard value in astronomy. The data imply that the age of the Universe is 13.82 billion years.
“With the most accurate and detailed maps of the microwave sky ever made, Planck is painting a new picture of the Universe that is pushing us to the limits of understanding current cosmological theories,” says Jan Tauber, ESA’s Planck Project Scientist.
“We see an almost perfect fit to the standard model of cosmology, but with intriguing features that force us to rethink some of our basic assumptions.
“This is the beginning of a new journey and we expect that our continued analysis of Planck data will help shed light on this conundrum.”


[11:39:24 AM] Sirius 17: what do you make of these anomolies they have detected?
[11:43:15 AM] Wyzard97: I have calculated, that their measured Hubble Constant should be 66.9 from the 'nodal' correct value of 58. Looks like they are getting closer. They say it is now 67.15 and much better, than their old 72
[11:43:55 AM] Sirius 17: so you think they are getting more accurate?
[11:44:21 AM] Wyzard97: The universe is 'directional' bec ause it must be a toroidal ellipsoid conceptually and not a perfect sphere
[11:44:57 AM] Sirius 17: so this is causing the tempurature fluctuations? Do they think it is a sphere?
[11:45:15 AM] Wyzard97: In terms of new technology of course; but their basic Big bang Theory and Inflation is still flawed, because they do not see the lightpath intersecting itself
[11:46:29 AM] Wyzard97: The temperature fluctuation relates to what Temperature is as a kinetic energy distribution and so this becomes the inflation mechanics of the brane cosmos BEFORE the inertial classical universe and not after
[11:48:06 AM] Wyzard97: Until they deviate from their 'mass rules' universe, they will get better and better approximations of a linearly expanding universe, which is acting strangely the further back they extrapolate the time
[11:48:49 AM] Sirius 17: yes i guess this shot is at 380 thousand years after TBB
[11:49:16 AM] Sirius 17: or so they say, i dont know how they determine that
[11:49:30 AM] Wyzard97: This is because the 'singularity' had a temperature-kinematics confined to small volumes in hyperspace and this temperature is a function of energy density
[11:50:26 AM] Wyzard97: Now if you use energy density as mass function, then you get those 'singularity' equationms, which appear physically untenable - ergo the Big bang bashers
[11:51:12 AM] Wyzard97: You must use the 'energy density' as ZPE or 'Dark Energy' before there was any mass in the form of elementary particles like protons, neutrons and electrons
[11:51:57 AM] Wyzard97: It is called recombination; it means that the universe as a 'energy furnace' changed from opaqueness to transparency
[11:52:22 AM] Sirius 17: well they released this shot today, i thought it was interesting anyhow, i knew you would know what it meant
[11:52:50 AM] Wyzard97: The 'light' as EMR could from then on 'escape' its own 'darkness'
[11:53:39 AM] Wyzard97: I never liked their Hubble Constant and knew it was much too high
[11:53:51 AM] Sirius 17: oh i see, so the light emerged out of the darknes cool
[11:54:06 AM] Wyzard97: Using the cyclic cosmology you have 58 but this is its minimum
[11:54:25 AM] Wyzard97: Its maximum is actually the LP, the God Frequency
[11:54:42 AM] Sirius 17: hehe yes of course it would have to be
[11:55:16 AM] Wyzard97: So superpositioning the linearity they believe in, makes the Hubble Constant oscillate between maximum and minimum every 16.9 billion years
[11:55:43 AM] Sirius 17: the heartbeat of the universe
[11:56:18 AM] Wyzard97: Then using the cyclic age of 19.1 billion yhears from the minimum of 16.9 Billion years you have the 2.2 billion year coordinate increasing the 58.0 to 66.9
[11:56:29 AM] Wyzard97: And this is just what they got as 67.15
[11:57:04 AM] Wyzard97: All their measurements are however still 'wrong' as thy are presupposing a linear expansion of the cosmos



[11:57:27 AM] Wyzard97: So this new Hubble constant might be a fluke or coincidence
[11:57:54 AM] Wyzard97: But perhaps it is good. I am not that good in working their models
[11:58:50 AM] Wyzard97: My work is actually just a 'rough overall view' itself and subject to many refinements
[11:59:45 AM] Sirius 17: yes well it seems to support the standard model well though
[12:00:56 PM] Sirius 17: so explain this to me again, the expansion occured metaphysically first right? and then the big bang occured filling the envelope in linearity? Am i seeing this right

[12:01:39 PM] Wyzard97: No not metaphysically. It was a real spacetime creation, but without any matter
[12:01:58 PM] Sirius 17: ok so it was not matter defined
[12:02:16 PM] Wyzard97: Recombination means, that the photons can separate from the massive particles from a energy plasma state
[12:02:25 PM] Wyzard97: So technically, this is all ok
[12:02:48 PM] Wyzard97: They KNOW, that matter was coupled to light, before the first Hydrogen atoms could form in 'recombining' previously 'plasma souped' protons and electrons, due to the energy-temperature drop
[12:03:24 PM] Wyzard97: What they dont understand is that there was a higher form of EMR, the monopolic kind which does NOT require inertia to create the EMR
[12:03:32 PM] Sirius 17: and then it became separate at what point like how many seconds or time into the big bang ?
[12:03:42 PM] Wyzard97: This is why I called it Monopolic EMR or EMMR
[12:04:02 PM] Wyzard97: At the inverse of the LP frequency
[12:04:14 PM] Wyzard97: This is defined as the Time Instantenuity
[12:04:56 PM] Wyzard97: It is the reciprocal of 3 Thousand Million Billion Trillion Hertz
[12:05:26 PM] Wyzard97: This is also the mass eigen frequency or self vibration as the 'Devil Particle'
[12:05:52 PM] Sirius 17: its what holds matter in stasis right? the standing wave
[12:05:54 PM] Wyzard97: It is the technical definition of spirit and 'love'
[12:05:58 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[12:06:20 PM] Sirius 17: without it we would not have bodies
[12:06:20 PM] Sirius 17: without it we would not have bodies
[12:07:28 PM] Sirius 17: how are you today btw?
[12:07:35 PM] Sirius 17: i am feeling better today
[12:08:09 PM] Sirius 17: decided to go get some pots and i transplanted my Japanese maple and some other plants into them
[12:08:29 PM] Sirius 17: i felt inspired to plant lol
[12:10:15 PM] Sirius 17: my baby maple is starting to bud so i wanted to get it into a bigger pot so it will have girth growth and be healthy. all my plants were screaming at me to get them into bigger pots, they had packed root balls.
[12:10:26 PM] Wyzard97: I edited the time chart to crystallize the '70th week' a bit better
[12:10:44 PM] Wyzard97: This 'Last week' begins today and fully calibrates Easter 2013
[12:10:48 PM] Sirius 17: oh i have not looked at it today
[12:11:16 PM] Sirius 17: i was thinking a lot about MI today and Rose and the birthday coming
[12:11:43 PM] Wyzard97: March 22nd 2013 maps December 24th, 2012 and so this aligns the December Solstice 2012 with the March Equinox 2013
[12:12:17 PM] Sirius 17: oh nice



[12:12:17 PM] Sirius 17: oh nice
[12:18:23 PM] Sirius 17: so Feb 6th was the midway point?
[12:18:47 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED
[12:19:00 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, 47+47=94=84+10 and 94x15=1410 days in the long count
[12:19:48 PM] Sirius 17: lol Tony
[12:19:52 PM] Sirius 17: your funny
[12:20:12 PM] Wyzard97: 47=TIME=74=EMIT
[12:20:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw this
[12:20:29 PM] Wyzard97: 47=ISAIAH=MALACHI=JOHN=ROCK=...
[12:21:11 PM] Wyzard97: 74=JESUS=SONGS=CLOUDS=ENERGY=ENGLISH=GOSPEL=CROSS=BEAUTY=MESSIAH=...
[12:21:27 PM] Sirius 17: hah ok now i didn't know that
[12:21:33 PM] Sirius 17: significant
[12:21:46 PM] Wyzard97: And LONDON=SUSAN=TONY=... lol DIY
[12:22:07 PM] Wyzard97: 74 is a master code indeed
[12:22:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes she is writing her own gospel now, she put the whole GOT on it :
[12:22:25 PM] Wyzard97: But of course just a coincidence!
[12:22:56 PM] Sirius 17: reference notes hehe
[12:22:59 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it will be interesting to see just HOW Susan will interpret the master manual in its intricacies
[12:23:16 PM] Wyzard97: A real and thorough test as to her cosmic understanding indeed
[12:23:21 PM] Sirius 17: well its good, at least she is reading it
[12:23:39 PM] Wyzard97: I reserve opinion until I see here details for now
[12:24:15 PM] Sirius 17: she said it helps her to understand it if she puts it into her own terms
[12:24:49 PM] Sirius 17: it helps me to understand it if i see it in Jesus's terms
[12:25:52 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, one can come to an understanding regarding just that
[12:31:27 PM] Wyzard97: Hmm yes today is in a way the death of the 2 witnesses though
[12:32:28 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know how those new Logos laws might manifest in individuals Raven
[12:32:34 PM] Wyzard97: One can only hope
[12:32:49 PM] Wyzard97: But March 25th is decisive
[12:33:27 PM] Sirius 17: well it was just odd, why i mention it to you
[12:33:33 PM] Wyzard97: March 22nd-25th-29th-31st-April 7th are 2 weeks or the 15 days
[12:36:17 PM] Sirius 17: so symbolically we are dead in the streets then?
[12:37:02 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and as an image from December 21st to 25th
[12:37:25 PM] Wyzard97: These are the days March 22nd - March 25th
[12:38:08 PM] Wyzard97: Also these are the last week of Daniel.9.24-27
[12:38:19 PM] Wyzard97: So there is desolation and floods
[12:38:55 PM] Wyzard97:

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

[12:39:03 PM] Wyzard97: Hmm yes, this fits
[12:39:20 PM] Wyzard97: This 'cut-off' is March 22nd
[12:39:34 PM] Sirius 17: hmm so today
[12:39:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the midweek is March 25th
[12:39:59 PM] Wyzard97: And the end of the week is Good Friday
[12:40:03 PM] Wyzard97: Fits eh?
[12:40:20 PM] Sirius 17: wow yeah
[12:40:30 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed and this is why I had to edit
[12:40:47 PM Wyzard97: I woke up early and knew something was up - on the day as usual
[12:40:57 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[12:41:08 PM] Wyzard97: They give me the data on the day and not before
[12:41:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes you seem to get not much forwarning
[12:41:15 PM] Wyzard97: Nope
[12:41:22 PM] Sirius 17: as it is meant to be
[12:42:06 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.facebook.com/Waljah/posts/352452111529835?notif_t=story_reshare

[12:42:33 PM] Sirius 17: this guy just shared this photo from my cosmic logos album the same time i said as it is meant to be
[12:43:05 PM] Wyzard97: This is part of one of my posts
[12:43:08 PM] Sirius 17: oh wait that was Maritza
[12:43:18 PM] Wyzard97: Lola
[12:43:25 PM] Sirius 17: she commented on something, but this guy shared that photo 24 mins ago
[12:43:36 PM] Sirius 17: and someone else shared it recently too
which i thought was strange
[12:44:13 PM] Sirius 17: oh they liked it
[12:44:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes its been several months since anyone said anything about these photos
[12:44:39 PM] Sirius 17: or liked them or shared them and i have no idea who this walle guy is, he is not even on my friends list
[12:50:20 PM] Sirius 17: interesting timing anyhow lol
[12:50:58 PM] Sirius 17: even though this isn't the updated version, i think they like the text below it
[12:51:47 PM] Sirius 17:
The Ark of the Covenant and the 144 Cubit Wall of the New Jerusalem
The Ark of the Covenant encompasses the individuated starhuman merkabah in a matrix of consciousness as the measurements given as 1.125 metres times 0.675 meters time 0.675 meters or a volume of about 0.5126 cubic meters or 512.6 liters. This then represents the Sarcophagus or Coffin of the Pharaoh inscribed in a volume of so 2.109 cubic meters or 2,109 litres.
The 12x12,000 Sealed Ones as the 12 Tribes of Israel and doubled as the 24 'Rainbow' Elders about the 'Throne of Jasper' in Revelation.4.3-4 then depict the 'Wall of the New Jerusalem' in the 144 cubits as the square of 12x12=144.
There are thus 3 individuated 'spaceship envelopes' about each starhuman merkabah defined in the Ark of the Covenant; the 3 measurements holofractlaising and magnifying the dimensions of the ark.
The Outer Circle is 144 cubits = 1.5 cubits x 96
The Central Circle is 144 cubits = 2.5 cubits x 57.6
The Inner Circle is 144 cubits = 3 cubits x 48
As 144 cubits are about 64.8 metres; this superimposed measurement scale defines a Spherical Diameter Area Projection of
۞ = πx2,099.52 m²
and about 6,595.84 square metres as the size of a large House or property so 81.2 metres to a side and as say about 1.62 acres as 1 acre=4,046.85642 square metres.
This approximation becomes the golden ratio in the 144 cubits = Phi Φ=½{1+√5} acres Acres; 144 being the twelfth Fibonacci Number F12=144 and generated in the ratio of F13/F12=233/144=1.618055.. as approximation for the Golden Mean Phi Φ=½{1+√5} as Noahs approximations for the Ark.
In terms of the cubic inscription in an enveloping spherical volume; the 'House of the Starhuman Starship Merkabah' then calculates as 144 cubic cubits or 2,985,984 cubits³ as (64.8 m)³ = 272,097.792 m³ or 272.1 megalitres as the cubic volume and as 402,966.2125 m³ or 403.0 megalitres as the spherical volume in a 3-dimensional spacetime metric.
As the diameter for the Ark of the Covenant in the inscribing square is √2x(2.5) cubits, this measurement also becomes the diameter for the inscribing circle.
The circularly chorded segments for the 4 'elemental' Beasts of the Scroll of the Revelation 4.6-8 so each calculate as this diameter halved as the radius minus ½ cubit or as
½√2x(2.5) - ½ - ¾ = 1.25(√2-1) cubits.

​

Revelation 4
1After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
3And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
4And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
5And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
7And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

The Sarcophagus for the Old human bodyform has dimensions LengthxWidthxHeight

Matthew 24:27 & Mark 14:11-16:
27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
13And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.

The Lion of Judah of the East and the Aquarian Sphinx as the Waterbearer of the West; with the Calf of the North and the Eagle of the Phoenix of the South.

http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=000AA12D-FF4C-455C-B6D3-20C21F277A7B&fid=6389FF9C-6EF0-4740-B5BD-EBBB1225BFD7
nice yes i linked it to the new world post
[12:56:33 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I just looked and it was Susan's
[12:56:41 PM] Sirius 17: well at least maybe some people are looking
[12:56:55 PM] Wyzard97: Who cares? Not me anymore!
[12:57:55 PM] Sirius 17: i know, i was just saying, it doesn't matter now anyhow
[12:58:02 PM] Wyzard97: Nope
[12:58:37 PM] Wyzard97: This week so is a 'confirmation of the covenant' week
[12:59:16 PM] Wyzard97: You see the intersection of two weeks from March 22nd to March 31st
[12:59:31 PM] Wyzard97: 10 Days
[1:00:20 PM] Wyzard97: March 22nd to March 27th then defines the final New Moon of Isaiah
[1:00:53 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok
[1:01:07 PM] Wyzard97: Then the mirror 5 days from March 27th, as Passion Wednesday to Easter Sunday March 31st
[1:01:29 PM] Wyzard97: March 27th-28th is Sui Generis' 'anniversary'
[1:01:56 PM] Wyzard97: Sui Generis is Latin for 'the unique one' or 'one of a kind'
[1:02:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember
[1:03:02 PM] Wyzard97: So yes. March 27th-28th and the New Moon in Aries will be 'energised' for Xeia
[1:03:21 PM] Sirius 17: when is the new moon in aries? what day
[1:03:29 PM] Wyzard97: March 27th
[1:03:35 PM] Sirius 17: lol
well she should be feeling it by now
[1:06:49 PM] Sirius 17: Isaiah mentions the throne of God too
[1:07:02 PM] Sirius 17: can't remember which one i read it in but i saw it there
[1:07:52 PM] Wyzard97: It is the Dragonomy Core as the Lake of Fire and Brimstone
[1:08:18 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6256-thousands-of-dead-prawns-wash-up-on-beach-in-chile
[1:08:27 PM] Sirius 17: this is strange
[1:08:42 PM] Wyzard97: Meaning that JCCJ span the spacetimes of the separations between the Cosmic Twinships

[1:09:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes i wish i could remember which passage i read it from
[1:11:18 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%206&version=KJV
[1:11:24 PM] Sirius 17: ah yes it was this one
[1:11:29 PM] Sirius 17: Isaiah 6
[1:12:48 PM] Sirius 17:

Isaiah 6 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.
6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,
12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.
13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.

[1:12:57 PM] Sirius 17: i liked this part
[1:15:51 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, this relates to the 'eating of the scroll' by Ezekiel and the 'Little Book' eaten by John in Revelations
[1:16:06 PM] Sirius 17: this one I wanted to ask you about, it is number 6 and contains 13 passages
[1:16:16 PM] Wyzard97: It is the way the 'prophets' become the 'messengers'
[1:17:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes i really liked this particular one and I don't know why
6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

[1:17:46 PM] Wyzard97: The tenth is the 'fallen city part' again and those are the 63 days of 630 as half of the 1260 of the 3½ years and so on
[1:18:16 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i saw that
[1:18:31 PM] Wyzard97: Also the 15 days as the 'hour' as a tenth of the 5 months of plagues or the 150 days of Noah's Flood
[1:18:55 PM] Wyzard97: So now look at Daniel.9.24-27 and see that the 'end' will be 'with a flood'
[1:19:27 PM] Wyzard97: The chart meticulously details all this
Everything is in a encoded symmetry of mirrors within mirrors
[1:23:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i am just discovering all this, you can see it much better of course with your familarity with the Bible...but it is beautiful
[1:24:31 PM] Sirius 17: and amazing
[1:24:39 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and thoroughly self consistent and logical
No channelers and quasi prophets like oxy's gurus are required. The source book suffices without human mind fuckups
[1:26:25 PM] Sirius 17: indeed and there it is in pristine form and no one has a clue but a few lol
[1:27:11 PM] Wyzard97: Exactly and I am sick and tired of attempting to share the source codes without being accused of being whatever
[1:27:31 PM] Sirius 17: i hear you
[1:28:06 PM] Wyzard97: Its the 'prophet's lot' though Raven
[1:28:22 PM] Sirius 17: it is, i always knew this
[1:28:28 PM] Wyzard97: And reluctant prophets at that
[1:28:54 PM] Sirius 17: i would not call you reluctant dear
[1:28:55 PM] Wyzard97: You have come to appreciate Isaiah now lol
[1:29:02 PM] Wyzard97: It is marvellous
[1:29:12 PM] Sirius 17: its beautiful
[1:29:23 PM] Wyzard97: I am reluctant
[1:29:25 PM] Sirius 17: but i can only take it in small doses it seems
[1:29:29 PM] Sirius 17: too powerful
[1:29:50 PM] Wyzard97: Precisely and now you can see Jesus' affinity with it
[1:30:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can and i can see how he saw how to solve things
[1:30:32 PM] Sirius 17: he had to be this essence in it
[1:30:37 PM] Wyzard97: He remembered himself as its author from the disincarnate wavestate
[1:31:23 PM] Wyzard97: And the 'expert historians and theologians' reckon Isaiah describes 700-600 BC
[1:31:34 PM] Sirius 17: hogwash lol
[1:31:51 PM] Wyzard97: Try to tell them that
[1:32:03 PM] Sirius 17: anyone reading it right now can see how it reflects these exact times we are in
[1:32:18 PM] Sirius 17: of course if they can not take things as literal, like i told Susan
[1:32:39 PM] Sirius 17: but maybe not i guess
[1:32:57 PM] Sirius 17: it seems obvious to me anyhow
[1:32:58 PM] Wyzard97: And exactly who reads Isaiah today, except selfdeluded bible bashers (students) and historians?
[1:33:12 PM] Sirius 17: we do lol
[1:33:20 PM] Sirius 17: nutters like us
[1:33:48 PM] Wyzard97: The tenths as a remnant symbol yes and related to the 144,000 as One
[1:34:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes it keeps mentioning this remnant
[1:35:38 PM] Sirius 17: 12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
[1:35:44 PM] Sirius 17: this is coming
[1:36:42 PM] Wyzard97: This has already come
[1:37:06 PM] Wyzard97: It means the dispensation has been given to the testimony keepers
[1:37:17 PM] Wyzard97: This is the start of the 1260
[1:37:19 PM] Sirius 17: 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
[1:37:31 PM] Sirius 17: this is the 21 days in the chart?
[1:37:52 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, this means the 'split' between the 42 days and the 42 days in 5+5=10 days
[1:38:16 PM] Wyzard97: Yes indeed at many places, but the completion is now
[1:38:40 PM] Wyzard97: Remember there is a long count and a short count
[1:38:49 PM] Wyzard97: The Mirror is the Birth of Gaia
[1:39:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes that is what i meant dear when i quoted Daniel above the 12th passage there. He is coming for thy words.
[1:39:36 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter dear, as long as the stuff is correctly decoded
[1:39:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[1:39:58 PM] Wyzard97: How many 'readers' have tried to decode Daniel over the centuries - Newton included??
[1:40:04 PM] Sirius 17: well this chart is the words and the key
[1:40:22 PM] Sirius 17: likely many and many still try
[1:40:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and I am in no way as clever as Newton. But this is the time
[1:41:00 PM] Wyzard97: But the 'Living' decoders cannot contribute to this 'solitary' endeavour
[1:41:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes but it is not your cleverness that makes it decoded right, it is the logos
[1:41:18 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Dead Ones' like Newton can. Perhaps you get the drift
[1:41:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes i do
[1:41:31 PM] Sirius 17: and i know why it is right
[1:41:42 PM] Sirius 17: they do know
[1:41:43 PM] Wyzard97: I am somewhat clever, but nowhere near genius level
[1:41:53 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[1:42:11 PM] Wyzard97: It is a 'communal work' between the living and the dead
[1:42:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes the bridge between worlds that we travel
[1:42:41 PM] Wyzard97: The 'solitariness' described in the gospels and the GOT refers to the living dead and not the dead alive
[1:42:44 PM] Sirius 17: they are the messangers
[1:43:36 PM] Wyzard97: Because 'sharing' this agency would result in war. Just as there could only be one Jesus incarnating in the flesh as the World Logos and not two or more
[1:44:09 PM] Wyzard97: But when the work is done, the manyness will be natural
[1:44:31 PM] Wyzard97: But this is WHY the true messengers will be hated and despised
[1:44:48 PM] Wyzard97: The 'devils' know the fakes and the genuine
[1:44:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes because they are as One
indeed they do
[1:47:01 PM] Sirius 17: 20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
[1:47:13 PM] Sirius 17: Tony what is the prince of Persia and Grecia?
[1:48:05 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Grecia is basically the time from February 11th in 21+21=42 days to March 25th with midpoint March 4th and Persia is December 21st to February 1st as 42=21+21 days with midpoint January 11th
[1:49:00 PM] Sirius 17: ok and now what about this one: 21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
[1:50:04 PM] Wyzard97: Grecia refers to Alexander the Great historically
[1:50:28 PM] Wyzard97: Persia is before it as the Babylonian Captivity
[1:50:54 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok, yes i meant how they represent now
[1:51:17 PM] Wyzard97: About 100 BC there was the Hellenisation of Israel as a land remember and leading to the Maccabean revolt described in the Dead Sea Scrolls
[1:52:21 PM] Wyzard97: As said, it is the 'inheritor' of the 'politics' and so the New Roman Empire of the West from the 'Holy Roman Empire' through the middle ages
[1:52:51 PM] Wyzard97: But all this 'history' and politics becomes 'eaten up' in the Logos timeline
[1:53:42 PM] Wyzard97: Michael is the 'Fire Cherubim' in harmony with the 'Air cherubim' Gabriel
[1:54:15 PM] Wyzard97: The fire requires air to 'live' in elemental terms, just as the earth requires the water to become fertile
[1:54:41 PM] Wyzard97: So this then relates to the four directions and the Kings of the North and South etc
[1:55:04 PM] Wyzard97: Like this facebook pic you shared before
[1:55:05 PM] Sirius 17: so also the ark of the covenent too?
[1:55:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[1:55:11 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[1:55:26 PM] Wyzard97: Michael 'defeats' the red dragon
[1:55:35 PM] Wyzard97: Gabriel is called 'A Man'
[1:55:54 PM] Wyzard97: It is the Gospel of Matthew as the Angel of Aquarius
[1:56:05 PM] Wyzard97: Fixed starsigns
[1:56:15 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok
[1:56:23 PM] Wyzard97: The Angel who measures the New Jerusalem is Gabriel
[1:56:37 PM] Wyzard97: In Revelation and in Daniel
[1:57:04 PM] Wyzard97: Gabriel stands on the 'divided waters' left foot on land and right foot on the sea (the mirror)
[1:57:10 PM] Wyzard97: Read this in Daniel
[1:57:43 PM] Wyzard97: This becomes the Beast rising from the Sea (mirror) in Revelation with the 'False prophet' standing on the earth
[1:57:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember this
[1:59:59 PM] Wyzard97:

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

[2:00:52 PM] Wyzard97: The two are 'divided' by the one in the middle and this is the period, I just specified from December 21st, 2012 to March 25th, 2013
[2:01:23 PM] Wyzard97: This is Daniel.12 and a key to the entire continuity then in the Book of Revelation
[2:02:10 PM] Sirius 17: i see yes, and the 1335 code
[2:04:04 PM | Edited 2:04:14 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed and noone knows the interpretation of this, except Thuban And this I can vow for
[2:04:37 PM] Wyzard97: Now see, how it says the 'dead will awaken'
[2:04:39 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was looking on the chart
[2:05:23 PM] Wyzard97: See the time and times and half a time as a generalised master key?
[2:05:24 PM] Sirius 17: [2:00 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.this part yes
[2:05:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes is that how you know where to set up the mirrors?
[2:06:08 PM] Wyzard97: The 'shame' is of course the 'ones outside' the gates of the New Jerusalem again
[2:06:27 PM] Wyzard97: It took me 30 years to figure this Raven
[2:06:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know, i am trying to understand it at a bit more depth hon
[2:07:14 PM] Wyzard97: And it was Matthew.24 and so Logos who gave the key. No human mind, including would be able to decipher this otherwise
[2:07:29 PM] Sirius 17: i know what you have sacraficed and given up for this key and for whom
[2:08:01 PM] Wyzard97:

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

[2:08:36 PM] Sirius 17: hehe
[2:09:15 PM] Sirius 17: the river of hiddekel
[2:09:28 PM] Sirius 17: the same place Daniel saw
[2:09:32 PM] Wyzard97:

Matthew 24:16-28 King James Version (KJV)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

[2:10:08 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, the River is the timeline as a mirror chart mandala and so able to circularise the linear
[2:10:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes and is the street to the land of the dead
[2:11:00 PM] Wyzard97: The chart begins with the 1260 days and ends them backwards. Can you see this?
[2:11:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:11:21 PM] Wyzard97: The carcases of the GOT
[2:11:28 PM] Sirius 17: i have always been able to see how it circularizes time
[2:11:59 PM] Wyzard97: MI as a dead alive one and the abomination of December 8th, 2004 when the timeline became anchored
[2:12:35 PM] Sirius 17: you are standing in the place Tonylove
[2:14:40 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter where I stand Raven. This must be accomplished and 2013 will just do this
[2:15:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know, i meant that metaphorically anyhow, not literally of course
[2:15:57 PM] Wyzard97: I am tired of humans, rather magnamously and just want peace of mind now for my days in this Old World
[2:16:02 PM] Sirius 17: the place of course is not a place yet seen
[2:16:48 PM] Wyzard97: You know where I consider 'my place' to be
[2:16:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes i do
[2:17:18 PM] Wyzard97: The space city like your Emerald City
[2:17:53 PM] Sirius 17: the New Jerusalem yes
[2:18:01 PM] Wyzard97: If I ever get there soon remains open to wishful thinking and imaginings
[2:19:05 PM] Sirius 17: well we are there hon, it has yet to materialize around us, but we are there
[2:19:33 PM] Wyzard97: Your dreamtimes dear
[2:19:48 PM] Sirius 17: maybe, or true memories
[2:20:07 PM] Wyzard97: I know this is the case in the wavestate and in higherD, but the 4D remains the crux of the agenda
[2:20:10 PM] Sirius 17: from my future past

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• SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Mar 23rd 2013
  
  I HAVE shared articles written by others
  on RH NEG O bloodlines - with their opinions,
  i've NEVER stated by own personal opinion on that
  -except to say i question why RH NEG O blood can NOT be cloned, that is a question, NOT an opinion.
• 
  2) i have absolutely NO 'belief's related to where Jesus might have walked, or even been laid to rest in this world
  i do believe, there have been a few souls, such as JESUS - maybe, all of them are incarnatons of the same thing
  but, i see the soul who walked as Jesus, and, brought The Logos to arms, as, merely an example
  of what is possible, in everyones 'raft of potentials"
  yes, i believe there have been many 'scribes' 'wisdom keepers' etc.,
  and, only a very small number of them, that could be classified as a transendual/infinite soul
  and, that this occurred for Jesus, in the last 33 days of his earthly incarnation
  and, to me, that would be 'good work' and, is one of the many things that made him/her cosmically unique
  and, that he/she did operate as The Logos and The bridge between the human world and the ET cosmos
• 
  c) The RCC seem to be at the root of a lot of things - i am NOT an expert on that - thus, i have NO real opinion,
  except, it does consist of Jesuits, White Popes, Black Popes, and, a huge library of information from an assortment of writers,
  the ethics behind how they acquired it all, is very questionable - and, the real truth on that, will likely NEVER be known
• 
  d) I do 'believe' that Obama exists, however, i do NOT believe there was ever a soul named Isama Bin Laden
  and, i do NOT believe Sandy Creek massacre occurred, as the mainstream media has protrayed the event
  - there are NO records of deaths for any of the people accessiable to anyone
  and, it mirrors exactly, an event that occurred in the UK, which had its records frozen for 100 years
  ironically, that event, had the same number of children,& the result of it, was the loss of the right to bear arms, for people in the UK
  -It wasn't until very recently, that i have started to even read anything related to 'the bible'
  i was NOT raised with any type of religious training, not at home, not at school, and, i've never been bapitized or christened.
  i have started with 2 things, that Raven suggested i read
  - Also, i wish, you would keep private conversations, private
  why do you find such delight in revealing names of people ?
  is there some kind of old score, you are trying to even with the two people you keep mentioning, from private chats ?
  i was asked 'once' by 'someone' in the chat group, to NOT post conversations/names - and, i immediately edited a post to exclude it...
  i have found, that when people find they can't talk freely, without having their conversations put out in public, without their permission
  that many, just disappear from the group, never to be heard of again
  in my opinion, a lot of what you are writing pertaining to me,
  is NOT fact, but fiction
  ~ Susan
  
  
  
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• Jorgelito - Posted Mar 23rd 2013
  
  NABS
  Susan, you have always made me smile and feel good when I read your posts. Don't let this thing get to you. I wish I could hold you and make the pain go away! The facts are not the thing I suspect -- but the way of a Being of the Stars (you!!!) who loves so dearly and so much who can navigate through this in one piece!
  
  . . . I think you just said hello back! You bathed me in waves and waves of love just now. I hope things go well for you in every way!
  
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