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Shenandoah - Posted Feb 22nd 2013

Introduction

Have you ever gone to a carnival, or a fair of some kind, and played the game "Whack-a-Mole"? It's a table with holes in it, and little mechanical rodents pop their heads out for about a half a second. You have to hit them with a mallet. If you wait too long, they duck back under. But every time you hit one, one or two pop up again. No matter how many you whack, there are always more.

Pseudoscientists are like those moles. You can whack one down, but then another springs up, like the head of Hydra.
In May 2003, when Planet X didn't show up as Nancy Lieder claimed, a lot of people thought the whole Planet X garbage would disappear. I knew better. Even as Nancy's life in the limelight was fading, the vultures were circling overhead. Mark Hazlewood was one. He was a Nancy acolyte, but abandoned ship as soon as he was caught by Nancy doing some rather unscrupulous things. Hazlewood was lost in a sea of pseudoscience, without direction. But then he found what he needed: James McCanney.

McCanney's head popped out of the hole a few years back. He's been making wacky claims for decades, but like most tabloid scientists, it was the internet where he finally found an audience (his website is at http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/). That, and fringe radio shows. He was an infrequent guest on many of these programs, but of late-- probably due to several astronomical events, like the appearance of some bright comets-- he has been getting more time. He's been on "Coast to Coast AM" quite a bit, for example.
His spiel on these programs is pretty much what you'd expect: he says that everything we know about astronomy (and really, all of science) is wrong. He says that NASA is lying to you, scientists are lying to you, I am lying to you. And, of course, only he knows The Truth.
His topics range rather widely, but he does talk a bit about Planet X, mostly in the guise of his weird comet theory (which I debunk in these pages). Planet X seems to be a topic he has picked up on rather recently, adding it, it seems, as a way to attach a topical flavor to his comet theory. I won't go into his Planet X ideas in these pages much, because I have nailed Planet X pretty thoroughly elsewhere. But his wacky comet theories...
He has lots of theories, and he will talk about them endlessly. However, he says these things without the benefit of being right. I have run into a lot of pseudoscientists saying wrong things in my time, but McCanney is neck-and-neck with Richard Hoagland for being the wrongest. His theories are not just bad, they're truly awful, just as wrong as they could be. In fact, he's so far off base that's it's easy to show just where his theories fall apart (basically, at square one); and I'll be happy to show you the details.
So let's go on that journey, shall we? It's neither a tough nor a long one. Just go to the table of contents at the top of this page, and from there you will be able to see just a slice of some of the wackiness Mr. McCanney doles out.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/mccanney/index.html
James M. McCanney
from JMccanney Website

James M. McCanney, M.S. received a sound classical physics training at St. Mary’s University, receiving a Bachelor of Arts degree with a double major in physics and mathematics in 1970. He was offered full scholarship awards to three major US physics graduate schools to pursue his graduate physics studies.

However, he chose instead to postpone graduate studies for a period of three years while he traveled and taught Physics and Mathematics in Spanish in Latin America.

During this time he spent a good deal of time traveling to ruins of ancient cities and archeological sites, studying firsthand many times as the ruins were dug from under dirt that had not been moved for thousands of years. Also during this time he developed the basis for his theoretical work that would, at a later date, deal with the celestial mechanics of N-bodies and plasma physics.

It was here also that he learned to appreciate the fact that the ruins and devastation he was witnessing had to have come from celestial events that were so devastating that they left the Earth and these stone cities in ruins, in some cases, leaving no trace of the inhabitants.

With this new understanding of archeology, astronomy of the ancients, physics and the world around him, Mr. McCanney returned to graduate school in 1973 and earned a master’s degree in nuclear and solid-state physics from Tulane University, New Orleans, LA. He was again offered a full fellowship to continue on with Ph.D. studies, but once again he declined and returned to Latin America to study archeology and teach physics, mathematics and computer science in Spanish. He continued his work to explore the mysteries of celestial mechanics and its relationship to the planets, moons and other celestial bodies.

In 1979 he joined the faculty of Cornell University, Ithaca N.Y. as an introductory instructor in physics. It was during this time that he had access to NASA data returning daily from the Voyager I and II spacecraft as they traveled by the planets Jupiter, Saturn and beyond (as well as data from many other space craft).

It was here he recognized that his theoretical work regarding the electro-dynamic nature of the solar system and universe had its signatures in the new data that was streaming in from the edges of the solar system. All standard science continued to look at gravitational explanations for the working of the planets, moons and other objects of the solar system, while Mr. McCanney was applying his electro-dynamic scientific theories, and ventured to say for the first time that comets were not dirty snowballs.

His papers were published at first in the standard astrophysical journals, but soon he began to receive resistance from the standard astronomical community and within a short period of time, the journals would no longer publish his theoretical work. Mr. McCanney was removed from his teaching position because of his beliefs regarding the electro-dynamic nature of the solar system.

Contrary to the traditional belief that the solar system formed all at one time 4.5 billion years ago and has not changed significantly since, Mr. McCanney’s theoretical work essentially stated that the solar system was dynamic and adopting new members on an ongoing basis. He pointed to the planet Venus, the Jovian moon Io, the Saturnian moon Titan and the small planet Pluto (which supports an atmosphere even though it is so distant from the warmth of the Sun and has insufficient gravity to hold an atmosphere for long) as being obvious new members of our solar system. He stated that all this was proof that the way this occurred was by “planetary capture”.

His theoretical work additionally stated that comets were not dirty snowballs, but were large electrical “vacuum cleaners” in outer space. The comets were drawing in vast amounts of material by way of powerful electrical forces and there was potential for very large comets capable of disrupting the planetary structure that was already in place. His innovative theories on plasma physics and a new model for fusion in the solar atmosphere provided the basis for the electric fields and plasma discharge phenomena that have become the core elements of his theoretical models of the true nature of the solar system in which we live.

Upon being fired from the physics department for his radical beliefs, Mr. McCanney was rehired shortly thereafter by the mathematics department also at Cornell University, where he taught for another year and a half and continued to publish his papers in astrophysical journals. Once again astronomers forced his removal and he was once again blackballed from publishing in the astrophysics journals in1981.

During this time Mr. McCanney established himself as the originator of the theoretical work regarding the electrical nature of the cosmos for which he coined the term “THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE”, which today is being proven correct on an ongoing basis by space-probes returning data from outer space. Many of his predictions such as x-rays to the sunward side of comet nuclei, that comet nuclei would be found to have no ice or water frozen on their surfaces and that comets interact electrically with the Sun to affect Earth weather, have now been confirmed by direct measurements in 1986, 1996, 2001 and 2002 respectively. Many other more abstract concepts have also been verified.

There exists a rare combination of factors that makes Mr. McCanney a unique person who stands alone in the development of the scientific principles and historical perspectives summarized in this book. Some have tried to borrow and copy this work, but when observers consider the factors involved they too will agree that the extensive rewriting of standard scientific structures had to be accomplished by someone with a rare set of characteristics and circumstances.

He was always at the top of his classes in Mathematics and Physics and was always creating his own formulas and proofs. His education was soundly based in classical and modern physics. He was able to recognize that when the basic new aspects of the functioning of the solar system were understood and then verified in space probe data, he had the ability to extend this information and take it to all its logical conclusions. This all occurred while working in and around the top rated scientists of the day at Cornell University who were still at least 2 decades behind what Mr. McCanney was discovering and writing.

Another unique condition was that Cornell University offered a rare location since it was not only a Library of Congress (if it was in print it was there), but also it was a repository of data for NASA. Armed with his existing theoretical work and this incredible source of information, and with the timing that coincided with the daily arrival of new data from the Voyager and other space craft from the far reaches of the solar system, he was in a totally unique position to do what he has done.

An essential requirement of anyone who attempts to alter the fundamental propositions of a subject as complex as astronomy and astrophysics, is an in depth knowledge of the history of that and all related sciences. Mr. McCanney has studied the history of science extensively and understands where the theories came from that currently make up the structures of science. He studied archaeology and geology and was in the field in remote areas to witness ancient civilizations unearthed from a previous devastation,.

He has the rare ability to speak at many levels. He has taken a topic as complex as plasma physics and celestial mechanics (the study of rarified gasses and the motion of the celestial bodies) and simplified it in terms that the general public can understand. That is why his university classes always grew rapidly.

In 1981 the Interdisciplinary Journal KRONOS agreed to publish what has since become known in inner circles as the “3 Part comet paper”, which is republished in it’s entirety at the end of the first book of this series Planet X, Comets and Earth Changes, along with other historically significant publications of Mr. McCanney. His work today includes many new significant insights into the connection between the Sun, comets, earth weather, The Sun-Earth Connection and Earth Changes. The results of that knowledge will become obvious when you read these books.

Mr. McCanney has also remained active and well known within the space science - astronomy community and within professional societies, and although standard astronomers still resist accepting his theoretical work, he is generally well respected amongst his peers in these communities when attending professional conferences. He

is what some have called “the last of the independent scientists” who were able to work “on the inside” and still remain active to talk about it on the “outside”.
In the mid-1990s Mr. McCanney’s work was recognized by a group of high-level Russian scientists who had measured but did not understand electro-dynamic effects around Earth and in the solar system. They translated all of his papers to date into Russian. These are being taught at the university level as the leading edge of research in this field. It is only due to the ongoing and intentional efforts of NASA that his work has received such little attention in the western scientific community and press.

It should be pointed out also that no new or bizarre fundamental laws of physics are needed to understand the electro-dynamic nature of the universe. This entire textbook is based on standard physics and simply introduces the principles of the working of our solar system based on a new understanding of how the Sun produces fusion and therefore electric fields (and magnetic fields) in the solar system. Once these fundamental principles are put in place, the rest is simply the logical conclusion of standard laws of physics being applied to the situation.

It is very interesting to note that historical records of the major disasters witnessed by the ancients are now understood in light of this new understanding of how our solar system works. A scientific basis and the “theoretical key” has now been introduced to give fundamental understanding of:

the Biblical references regarding the End Days

the accounts of the Exodus from the Legends of the Jews

the Mayan accounts of Quetzalcoatl (the plumed serpent god of the night sky whose heart became the planet Venus)

the accounts of the Egyptian mythological planet Nibiru

the accounts and historical records and writings of the destruction of Atlantis

the writings of such world renowned authors as Casey, Sitchin, Velikovsky, Blavatsky, Donnelly and others who could see beyond the standard and incorrect explanations of where we came from and the true history of man and our planet

This book is a summary of information that spans over 25 years of serious research and is needed on the international market to inform the public of the true nature of our past relative to celestial events, and additionally, of the dangers that stand before us as we deal with the possibility of new planetary members being adopted into the solar system.

The books in this series do not make any specific predictions of dates on the arrival of a new celestial object nor does it make any predictions or analysis regarding any particular planetary object(s) that might come into the solar system.

Additionally, regarding the historical events, these books do not state definitive dates for past events … but only indicate the most plausible dating based on current information. Dating of events is a difficult area of study and many times taken too lightly by people who have done insufficient study to know what they are really talking about. The study of ancient calendars, for example, is probably one of the most complicated areas of study known to man.

The current text is the fourth in a series of books.

The first book Planet X, Comets and Earth Changes defines the science behind the true electrical workings of the solar system and relates it to historical studies and modern space probe data. It is a treatise written for the layman on the 25 years of Mr. McCanney’s theoretical work. It is essential that the reader understand at minimum the basic contents of that book to put the current book into perspective. The reader will not understand the current book and the science of the ancients without having a basic understanding of the true electrical nature of the workings of the solar system.

The second book of the series Surviving Planet X Passage (a 60 page pamphlet), although not essential, covers an aspect of history that the avid reader may well wish to understand. This is the re-calendaring of our celestial clock after the Earth’s orbital elements have been affected by a close encounter with a near passage of a massive celestial object as we know has happened in the past. This book outlines what the ancients performed to rebuild their calendars for survival so they would know the correct planting seasons.

The third book Atlantis to Tesla – The Kolbrin Connection takes the reader’s knowledge to a new level and for the first time, defines for the general public the Physics of the ancient advanced cultures such as Atlantis. It links the past with the present, giving also a glimpse of the direction we must take to assure our species a place amongst the stars.

The current book Principia Meteorologia - The Physics of Sun Earth Weather

i

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_mccanney_a.htms the culmination of Mr. McCanney’s lifelong work which now details the effects of electrical conditions in the solar system on space weather and ultimately the weather systems of Earth. At present there are two more books destined to become part of this series that will be released at later dates.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Mar 4th 2013

The End of the Curse of Babylon

[8:01:43 PM- Monday, March 4th, 2013-+11UCT] Wyzard97:
http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=E21D7430-1FB7-4633-BB84-CA89385725F7

[8:01:47 PM] Wyzard97: Look now
[8:01:56 PM] Kali 666: let me see
[8:02:52 PM] Kali 666: Tony
[8:03:07 PM] Kali 666: accept the images i'm sending you on my window
[8:04:09 PM] Wyzard97: I did
[8:04:15 PM] Kali 666: k
[8:05:18 PM] Wyzard97: I got it all
[8:05:34 PM] Wyzard97: edited version first and then the originals
[8:05:45 PM] Wyzard97: She cant delete it from here
[8:06:15 PM] Wyzard97: Nabs idiots
[8:06:37 PM] Kali 666: i see them ok
[8:06:50 PM] Wyzard97: Good you had the originals
[8:07:06 PM] Wyzard97: I can edit the posts, but need the source material
[8:11:03 PM] Wyzard97: I added a new edit on the timeline too
[8:11:29 PM] Kali 666: where?
[8:11:34 PM] Wyzard97: Fitting I could get this info today when the concalve starts
[8:11:39 PM] Kali 666: do you have a link?
[8:11:43 PM] Wyzard97: March 4th, remember?
[8:11:49 PM] Kali 666: oh yes
[8:12:02 PM] Wyzard97: Just look at this link beneath Fates pics
[8:12:17 PM] Wyzard97: The bishops and cardinals arrived in Rome
[8:15:50 PM] Wyzard97: I added the bottom to it, which mentiones the 'white smoke'
[8:16:10 PM] Wyzard97: The queen got sick on the same day
[8:16:31 PM] Wyzard97: Many synchronicities. She was supposed to fly to Rome
[8:17:09 PM] Wyzard97: March 4th is the 'official' Logos enddate of the Roman Catholic popes
[8:17:50 PM] Wyzard97: 3½ days after the 'resignation'
[8:17:55 PM] Kali 666: 3 years ago it was Thuban's end on Avalon
[8:18:33 PM] Wyzard97: Avalon started January 4th-18th, 2010 and ended so April 5th
[8:18:51 PM] Wyzard97: April 5th-6th ended Camelot exactly 1 year after
[8:19:14 PM] Kali 666: is that when you were banned?
[8:19:26 PM] Wyzard97: The important dates were January 4th and January 18th, 2010
[8:19:41 PM] Wyzard97: Thuban was born then
[8:19:58 PM] Wyzard97: And ended as 'open source' on February 19th, 2013
[8:20:04 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and at both places about the same time
[8:20:17 PM] Wyzard97: Thuban is no longer 'open source'
[8:20:46 PM] Wyzard97: This is why DD left to show her true self and you and Raven are 'seeing it more thoroughly'
[8:21:13 PM] Wyzard97: Raven's vision was May 10th to start the 1000 days in the 'shortening of days'
[8:21:32 PM] Wyzard97: Your vision began the 1000 days in the 'long days count'
[8:21:52 PM] Wyzard97: It is perfectly aligned in the codes now decoded
[8:22:10 PM] Wyzard97: I added the precise dating of Raven on this last edit
[8:22:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yours is fine as the above day count ending December 21st, 2012 was the last 'long day count'
[8:23:01 PM] Wyzard97: December 22nd, 2012 started the 'short day count'
[8:24:21 PM] Wyzard97: There are exactly 1000 days between March 28th, 2010 and December 21st, 2012
[8:24:50 PM] Wyzard97: There are exactly 1000 days between May 10th, 2011 and February 3rd, 2014
[8:25:14 PM] Wyzard97: You begin and end with the 3½ days
[8:25:52 PM] Kali 666: sry Tony
[8:26:01 PM] Wyzard97: So the two major prophetic timelines in the bible; of Daniel in the OT and of Revelation in the NT become calibrated and synchronised
[8:26:38 PM] Wyzard97: They gave me this last piece just as March 4th arrived
[8:27:06 PM] Wyzard97: March 4th is the demise of Babylon
[8:27:33 PM] Wyzard97: Ergo this 'manifests' in this DD now refused 'publically'
[8:27:37 PM] Kali 666: hard for me to follow you now
[8:27:44 PM] Wyzard97: Never mind
[8:27:48 PM] Kali 666: i'm fighting with Rok about debra again
[8:28:00 PM] Wyzard97: He talks to her?
[8:28:22 PM] Kali 666: he was against me even replying to her on Mists
[8:28:34 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and it does not matter now
[8:28:47 PM] Wyzard97: We should utterly ignore her from now on
[8:29:16 PM] Wyzard97: Only the Lassie memory is of Logos relevance now
[8:29:37 PM] Wyzard97: This is the 'death of the hierarchy'
[8:29:41 PM] Kali 666: i don't see it as debra, but as an attack of the anti
[8:29:50 PM] Kali 666: and i don't ignore those
[8:29:58 PM] Wyzard97: Look at the chart at the last day on the left where it says March 4th
[8:30:06 PM] Wyzard97: You will see the Life-Death mirror

[8:30:21 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and you are correct
[8:30:31 PM] Wyzard97: I felt the darkness flowing into MI
[8:30:42 PM] Kali 666: i wanted that picture of us gone from Mists, and i got what i wanted
[8:30:42 PM] Wyzard97: There is no more DD-Babylon now
[8:30:59 PM] Wyzard97: She is just a nabs bimbo now
[8:31:07 PM] Wyzard97: Irrelevant
[8:31:14 PM] Kali 666: she should feel that she can't just do whatever she wants when it comes to Thubans
[8:31:45 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter what she feels and particulary thinks from now on Sui
[8:31:49 PM] Wyzard97: The anti is gone
[8:32:02 PM] Kali 666: gone as in?
[8:32:06 PM] Kali 666: gone from her?
[8:32:16 PM] Wyzard97: Returned from whence it came
[8:32:22 PM] Wyzard97: Yes in praxis
[8:32:34 PM] Wyzard97: As said it is in the JCCJ
[8:32:35 PM] Kali 666: oh absorbed you mean...eaten?
[8:32:38 PM] Wyzard97: YES
[8:32:49 PM] Wyzard97: Logos had to wait for March 4th
[8:33:07 PM] Kali 666: well and perhaps this is why we can see it for what it is
[8:33:08 PM] Wyzard97: This becomes the 4D symbol of the 'new pope'
[8:33:41 PM] Kali 666: i just won't stand idle when something ticks me off
[8:33:42 PM] Wyzard97: Cant you see the trick of the Logos in the 3½ days?
[8:34:00 PM] Wyzard97: Tell me the name of the 'caretaker pope'?
[8:34:19 PM] Wyzard97: And then compare this name with the Malachi prophecy
[8:34:32 PM] Wyzard97: Rather simple actually
[8:34:57 PM] Wyzard97: But the 'pundits' as usual dont see the obvious
[8:34:59 PM] Kali 666: caretaker pope is the acting pope now?
[8:35:02 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[8:35:10 PM] Kali 666: i see
[8:35:10 PM] Wyzard97: Not Benedict
[8:35:41 PM] Kali 666: so in essence this may the the last pope
[8:35:56 PM] Wyzard97: Write the name and you see
[8:37:54 PM] Wyzard97: Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro (Peter) Evasio Bertone
[8:38:17 PM] Wyzard97: The 'evasive Peter, the Roman'. He is in Rome is he not?
[8:38:28 PM] Wyzard97: So there you are
[8:38:50 PM] Wyzard97: March 4th is the 'official' end of all popes including Peter
[8:39:14 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus has RECLAIMED the 'keys into the real heaven'
[8:40:24 PM] Wyzard97: Now look at the chart and you see the 'Curse of Babylon' ending March 4th, 2013 converging all the other timelines
[8:41:22 PM] Hades 88: [8:27 PM] Kali 666:
<<< i'm fighting with Rok about debra again

ignoramus...it is not about dd
[8:41:59 PM] Hades 88: [8:33 PM] Kali 666:
<<< i just won't stand idle when something ticks me off

oh yea...ready the cannons

[8:42:30 PM] Kali 666: Rok i got what i wanted
[8:42:34 PM] Kali 666: why are you so upset?
[8:43:13 PM] Hades 88: it may be the symbolic end of pope
[8:43:21 PM] Hades 88: but they will elect a new bastard
[8:43:40 PM] Kali 666: fine be evasive
[8:43:48 PM] Wyzard97: Irrelevant Rok. The 'office is kaput' and disempowered
[8:44:16 PM] Hades 88: [8:42 PM] Kali 666:
<<< why are you so upset?

[8:38 PM] Hades 88:
<<< it is how u go about things and where do u "Put Me" when i dont blindly follow

[8:44:41 PM] Kali 666: what have i asked you that you "did not follow"?
[8:44:42 PM] Hades 88: yes the "office" might be done with...but the new face will come there and people will flock to see it
[8:44:45 PM] Wyzard97: This is the metaphysical jurisdiction to which all 'lower laws' must adhere to in jurisprudence and in executive function
[8:44:49 PM] Wyzard97: It is all farce now
[8:45:00 PM] Kali 666: it is more me not following your order not to reply to debra
[8:45:17 PM] Hades 88: rome currently has no papa and no prime minister...
[8:45:24 PM] Wyzard97: This world and its sytems are 'farce' too and still to be endured
[8:45:27 PM] Hades 88: it does have a mayor and a president though
[8:45:51 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is another symbol
[8:46:19 PM] Wyzard97: No political leader and no spiritual leader the classic mind-body dichotomy
[8:46:30 PM] Wyzard97: Cartesian Dilemmas
[8:46:37 PM] Hades 88: well it is without government and without papa yes
[8:46:52 PM] Wyzard97: Send in the Clowns
[8:46:58 PM] Kali 666: how rude you are
[8:47:05 PM] Kali 666: why are you ignoring me?
[8:47:06 PM] Hades 88: clowns? bebe grillo
[8:47:09 PM] Hades 88: i am not
[8:47:27 PM] Wyzard97:

[8:47:37 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Grillo
[8:47:43 PM] Kali 666: gn Tony
[8:47:46 PM] Hades 88: xeia the way u get "ticked off" is not ok.
[8:47:47 PM] Wyzard97: But I leave you to it now
Kali 666
[2:37:45 AM-Tuesday, March 5th, 2013 -+11UCT]
Wyzard97: Allow me to clarify a few things about March 4th and its relationship to the metamorphosis of the archetypes. I just was woken and asked to elaborate a little.
[2:38:29 AM] Wyzard97: First of all, Thuban is no longer 'open source' by invitation. This means that people will have to actually search to find the 'New World data'.
[2:38:49 AM] Wyzard97: It will no longer be 'presented' anywhere but our own forums
[2:40:00 AM] Wyzard97: This came 'into effect' February 19th, 2013 and became made manifest in the accident of February 21st, coinciding with the 'white smoke' in Ravn's house and the 'dreams' of the true Thuban testifiers
[2:41:41 AM] Wyzard97: Now the Babylon Curse in Revelation and related scrolls is the 'Temple Scroll' in the Dead Sea documents and relates as well to a 'place of judgement by the elders' in the ancient Palestina. This place is called 'shiloh' and yes, i knew this and called my avatar on MOA after this
[2:42:05 AM] Wyzard97: Babylon=71=Temple=Shiloh, if you care to check

[2:42:54 AM] Wyzard97: So when Jesus talks about his body being this 'Temple of Building, Destruction and Reconstruction', he actually refers to his death and resurecction as being this course of events
[2:43:02 AM] Wyzard97: I show the code
[2:45:13 AM] Wyzard97:

John 2:13-22 - King James Version (KJV)

13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

[2:45:47 AM] Wyzard97: This is self evident now and in the light of what I just said.
[2:46:46 AM] Wyzard97: Now the 'Fall of Babylon' represents the 'new merkabah' or the 'doubled selfhood' as Raven has shared many times and which is one of the main pathways of understanding through the GOT
[2:47:03 AM] Wyzard97: For example this saying directly relates to what I am going to share
[2:47:48 AM] Wyzard97:

(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

[2:48:03 AM] Wyzard97: Now the inner nous is this.
[2:48:44 AM] Wyzard97: Every man and woman has a Mind as a Wave form and a Body as a Particle form by the cosmic birthright
[2:48:56 AM] Wyzard97: But this is like Day and Night or Light and Darkness
[2:49:39 AM] Wyzard97: So the wave is by nature the light of omniscience say and omnipresence, but the body is by nature ignorant and isolated 'as a bodyform'
[2:50:07 AM] Wyzard97: So this becomes the Cartesian science of the Mind-Body duality underpinning all sciences for example
[2:50:56 AM] Wyzard97: It is also the Chicken-Egg and the Schrödinger Cat paradox in Quantum Mechanics etc.
[2:51:19 AM] Wyzard97: So to be 'Fully Alive' you cannot have a Body in the darkness
[2:51:44 AM] Wyzard97: So only the dead ones are really 'alive' in the cosmic nature of things and the cosmogenesis
[2:52:26 AM] Wyzard97: Corollarily, to 'be incarnated in a bodyform', 'curses you with darkness' by the selfsame definitions and you are literally a 'living dead' one
[2:53:21 AM] Wyzard97: This again is the reason and purpose of life and the many 'stories'; namely to find a 'way out o9f the life-death' cycle, which is actually a day-night metaphor
[2:54:11 AM] Wyzard97: Now before day and night came into existence; the Logos existed as the unifying principle. This is of course no Jesus incarnate, but hisher understanding or 'Word of God'.
[2:54:49 AM] Wyzard97: So ONLY the Logos could Upon incarnating, try to manifest a Day-Night or Life-Death synthesis
[2:56:25 AM] Wyzard97: This means that the Day or Light or Wave of the Cosmic Human Mind is no longer restricted or trapped to be separated from the Night or Darkness or Particular Expression of the Cosmic Human Body
[2:57:25 AM] Wyzard97: The 'Mind Above' becomes a MindBody as a Wave-Particle and the 'Body Below' becomes a Particle-Wave
[2:57:53 AM] Wyzard97: This in a nutshell is the resurrection without any spiritual clap trap or superstitions
[2:58:46 AM] Wyzard97: So what happened on March 4th, 2013; is that EVERYONE CAN, upon seekin g and wanting it, partake of this 'resurrection temple' as a new merkabah for the starhuman cosmic redefinition
[2:59:15 AM] Wyzard97: Now listen carefully as to what this means in the individual cases
[3:00:16 AM] Wyzard97: Jesus could, because heshe is the Logos existing before anything else synthesize the Light-Life of the Mind and the Darkness-Death of the Body
[3:00:34 AM] Wyzard97: Noone else, no Hindu gurus or 'ascended masters' or buddhas or 'prophets' can do this, because they all came after day and night were created
[3:02:28 AM] Wyzard97: This so becomes the 'curse of Adam and Eve' as the Light-Mind-Wave-Life and the Darkness-Body-Particle-Death respectively and many other association with those archetypes, stories and symbols
[3:03:22 AM] Wyzard97: But only Jesus had the MAXIMUM Potential to put the Light into his Body, live or dead for everyone else; and to put the Darkness into his Mind
[3:03:51 AM] Wyzard97: This is his raison d' etre' in a physical incarnation in a nutshell

[3:05:06 AM] Wyzard97: So from March 4th, 2013 we all, and the Thubans are 'insiders' as the story tellers only here and no 'a 'hidden source'; CAN indeed tap and maanifest their own 'twinselves' or 'shadow bodies and shadow minds' as indicated
[3:05:27 AM] Wyzard97: Now again, slowly. This does not mean miraculous transformations or such
[3:05:51 AM] Wyzard97: It means that you are all now doubled with yourselves as a JCCJ merkabah
[3:06:23 AM] Wyzard97: This applies both to the individual AND to the cores, who can now begin to 'feel the cosmic entwinements'
[3:06:49 AM] Wyzard97: Remember, I emphasised the 'Maximum potential'?
[3:07:39 AM] Wyzard97: Only Jesus and now as the cosmic twinship JCCJ has this maximised. All incarnates, including us are a 'grey soup of light and darkness' all mixed together
[3:08:24 AM] Wyzard97: But this template of the reconfigured JCCJ blueprint belongs to Thuban as ikts cosmic commission and agency
[3:08:49 AM] Wyzard97: So we are the pioneers of 'a new idea' say in the most skeptical description
[3:09:22 AM] Wyzard97: But the story is real and is supported by all the scripture codes and the human history in science and evolvements
[3:10:23 AM] Wyzard97: So in praxis then, Xeia and Rok as a core have 'received' something in themselves, a new opportunity or possibility to GROW and EVOLVE into this starhuman merkabah
[3:11:42 AM] Wyzard97: March 4th, 2013 is the demise of the old and the birth of the new in the context of the MindBody above being no longer just the 'light of the wave', but now also carries an 'INBUILT" bodyform of darkness
[3:13:06 AM] Wyzard97: Correspondingly, the BodyMind below now is no longer just a 'walking Zombie, waiting to get old and die', but CAN share in the JCCJ template of the lightbody which is actually misnamed as a Dark BodyLightMind or whatever
[3:14:08 AM] Wyzard97: The emphasis is CAN. A new cosmic jurisprudence now exists and this is symbolised in the papal and political manouvers in Rome and Italy at the present time
[3:15:19 AM] Wyzard97: We are all still 'grey hybrids' between the waved light and the particularised darkness (of ignorance or original sinfulness'; but we and all have now an open door, because babylon has fallen
[3:16:08 AM] Wyzard97: We are at least potentially now, in chapter 19 of Revelation, where the old heaven and earth are 'rolled up' and replaced by something new
[3:16:43 AM] Wyzard97: The 'Wedding Feast of the Lamb' as the JCCJ template and the collective cosmic human blueprint and archetype has begun
[3:17:33 AM] Wyzard97: Also the Queen is sick at 86 and I should end for now in sharin g that this ev ent relates to the New Testament code of the 'Eternal Priesthood' of JCCJ
[3:18:27 AM] Wyzard97: The code is 86=Melchisedec in the Greeek NT version and not the OT version which is often misused and abused by the Nabsers in Melchizedek, which is 101 but 5 binary
[3:18:53 AM] Wyzard97: I will share this explanation on the JT-Conversations forum

[3:18:59 AM] Hades 88: [3:17 AM] Wyzard97:
<<< Also the Queen is sick at 86

prevented her from visiting...Rome

[3:19:05 AM] Wyzard97: Exactly
[3:19:10 AM] Wyzard97: Just a hint
[3:19:56 AM] Wyzard97: I woke up middle in the night here and so found it pertinent to share this 'insight'
[3:20:24 AM] Kali 666: [2:58 AM] Wyzard97:
<<< EVERYONE CAN, upon seeking and wanting it, partake of this 'resurrection temple'
upon seeking and wanting what exactly?

[3:21:25 AM] Wyzard97: 'Eternal Life' and the 'Promises given to the starseed of Abraham and Sarah' to recall the scripturally defined 'birthrights'
[3:21:47 AM] Wyzard97: A 'New World' promised
[3:22:07 AM] Kali 666: what about all those who are completely unaware of this?
[3:22:34 AM] Wyzard97: Life as usual, with a new form of dreams, thoughts and 'visits' thrown in
[3:22:48 AM] Wyzard97: This is Logos dear not Thuban
[3:23:03 AM] Wyzard97: Thuban is like a Librarian
[3:23:27 AM] Wyzard97: Every individual JCCJ coupling can make their own choices and decisions
[3:23:33 AM] Kali 666: many know not what they seek nor what they want
[3:24:12 AM] Wyzard97: You can USE the maximised Darkness and the maximised Light, you now have access to or stay as you are in the misted zones and the twilights
[3:24:34 AM] Wyzard97: No and our agency is that of the book keepers and no more
[3:25:26 AM] Wyzard97: So as a core, you can decide to live and construct your own castle and stay there in isolations and relative tranquility or you can go out and attempt to share your information and 'yourself' around in whatever pleases you or what you desire as a Cosmic Starhuman or Dragon
[3:26:16 AM] Wyzard97: You are the Kali and the Shiva now. What you do with it is up to you and this applies to both you as Individual SheHe Xeia and as POTENTIAL RokSui core
[3:28:21 AM] Wyzard97: The archetypes are reconfigured and so like the 'next pope' and all the politicians, they are all figure heads only with no cosmic jurisdiction
[3:28:37 AM] Wyzard97: The new laws will come in the New World and not from the old one
[3:29:28 AM] Wyzard97: This is not here yet and will await the completion of the chapters 19-22 in the Book of Revelation
[3:29:47 AM] Wyzard97: The only things I know about this are on the chart
[3:30:24 AM] Wyzard97: The times must come apparently and fulfil themselves, before anyone really can predict the dates
[3:31:18 AM] Wyzard97: But the chart says the next nexus dates are Easter and April and then June and July and then January to March 2014
But Babylon has fallen as prophecied and this was crucial
[3:41:35 AM] Wyzard97: I am going back to sleep gn
[3:41:54 AM] Kali 666: thank you Tony
[3:41:54 AM] Kali 666: gn
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SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Mar 4th 2013

recently, we also spent 4 days in bed
and, there is NO doubt,
sometimes, we are called
& many do NOT even realize they are having a calling
- there is absolutely NO doubt,
in my heart or in my mind
that 'everyone' has within them
the ability to activate their full 'raft of potentials'
simply, will it to be, so, it will be, and, so it is
.... susan 333-333-315* *** (just sub. your soul sigil aka soul signature where mine are parked in this message)
Thank you, for these good words
may the many who read them
put their own will, into finding the way
Will is The Way
simply command and demand, in 100% alignment with your missions, your purposes and your tasks
...ask, ask, ask, that they be given to you
and, be sure to ask, ask, ask,
that you are always in 100% alignment
with anything you choose pre-natally,
and, anything you have chosen to amend
since incarnating into your currrent 'life cycle'
Be it, to do, it
Do it, to be, it
it is as simple, as that
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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Mar 6th 2013

Logos Questions regarding the Bridges towards Contact

[3:52:23 AM-Wednesday, March 6th, 2013 -+11UCT]
Sirius 17: i had a strange dream this morning....we were preparing our birth certificates all of us and organizing our life history onto a few pages. I saw Rok and Julissa in the dream, and Rok was asking me if I thought his was fine or if he was missing anything. I thought the way he was piecing it together was interesting and told him that I thought it was fine but that he could leave out the parts of his history he didn't like.

[3:52:43 AM] Sirius 17: I don't remember much else, but it seemed we all needed to do this for like some job.
[3:53:26 AM] Sirius 17: it was like a detailed resume and birth certificate combined
[3:54:55 AM] Sirius 17: Rok had snapshots of his childhood in his papers and i remember seeing him when he was little holding the teddy bear in one.
[5:39:02 AM] Sirius 17: good video Rok, I shared it on FB
[6:02:16 AM] Hades 88: thx and yes the video has a good point...but the presentation could be much shorter
[7:25:54 AM] Hades 88: http://rt.com/usa/drone-spotted-over-new-york-864/
[10:04:01 AM] Sirius 17: yeah those Drones are nuts
[10:04:10 AM] Sirius 17: makes me not want to fly
[10:15:23 AM] Sirius 17: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/03/04/locust-swarms-descend-on-egypt-like-biblical-plague/?iid=nf-main-trend-now&hpt=hp_t2
[10:15:34 AM] Sirius 17: This is interesting
[11:54:35 AM] Kali 666: nice
[11:55:23 AM] Kali 666: just like in the time of Moses
[12:28:02 PM] Morgan Swanson: heya
[12:35:01 PM] Kali 666:

Exodus 10:12-23

12 And the Lord said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand over the land of Egypt for the locusts, that they may come up upon the land of Egypt, and eat every herb of the land, even all that the hail hath left.
13 And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the Lord brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts.
14 And the locust went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such.
15 For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.
16 Then Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron in haste; and he said, I have sinned against the Lord your God, and against you.
17 Now therefore forgive, I pray thee, my sin only this once, and intreat the Lord your God, that he may take away from me this death only.
18 And he went out from Pharaoh, and intreated the Lord.
19 And the Lord turned a mighty strong west wind, which took away the locusts, and cast them into the Red sea; there remained not one locust in all the coasts of Egypt.
20 But the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go.
21 And the Lord said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.
22 And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:
23 They saw not one another, neither rose any from his place for three days: but all the children of Israel had light in their dwellings.

[12:36:33 PM] Kali 666:
So the locusts came before the 3 days of darkness
[12:36:47 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[12:36:52 PM] Kali 666: interesting
[12:37:00 PM] Sirius 17: i would say this is symbolic of the times
[12:37:47 PM] Kali 666: yes absolutely
[12:39:39 PM] Kali 666: Daniel has been dreaming of the ships lately
[12:39:57 PM] Sirius 17: did you see my dream this morning
[12:40:11 PM] Kali 666: about Rok?
[12:40:22 PM] Kali 666: yes i read it
[12:40:31 PM] Sirius 17: you were there too, i visually saw the two of you but the rest were there
[12:40:51 PM] Sirius 17: and we were preparing our birth records and life history
[12:40:51 PM] Kali 666: what rest?
[12:41:09 PM] Kali 666: perhaps that is exactly what we are doing right now in the astral
[12:41:16 PM] Kali 666: recordkeeping
[12:41:24 PM] Morgan Swanson: =)
[12:41:24 PM] Kali 666: to get ready for the final hour
[12:41:30 PM] Kali 666: hi fates!
[12:41:34 PM] Kali 666: :*
[12:41:50 PM] Sirius 17: Tony, James, Fates, Susan....and other Thubans i guess, i felt them there at my periphery
[12:42:13 PM] Sirius 17: but i was focused on the two of you because of Rok's specific questions
[12:42:25 PM] Sirius 17: you both wanted me to look over his stuff for some reason
[12:42:32 PM] Sirius 17: and he was asking me questions
[12:42:43 PM] Morgan Swanson: what do you want to know?
[12:42:53 PM] Morgan Swanson: "i know everything" -final fantasy x-2
[12:42:54 PM] Sirius 17: hey Fates
[12:42:54 PM] Morgan Swanson: loll
[12:43:12 PM] Kali 666: leaving out the parts of his history he didn't like is a little like getting rid of all of that which you don't need
[12:43:30 PM] Morgan Swanson: history is cyclic
[12:43:31 PM] Kali 666: washing of your robes
[12:43:48 PM] Morgan Swanson: you cant avoid repeating the mistakes of the past until you learn from them
[12:44:07 PM] Morgan Swanson: thats why we are here right?
[12:44:09 PM] Kali 666: leaning the lesson yes, but once it's learned...you don't need to carry it with you
[12:44:13 PM] Morgan Swanson: yep
[12:44:20 PM] Morgan Swanson: believe me, ive learned a lot
[12:44:26 PM] Morgan Swanson: of lessons =P
[12:44:36 PM] Kali 666: it's emotionally liberating
[12:44:46 PM] Morgan Swanson: thats true
[12:44:48 PM] Kali 666: and we have the need for that don't we?
[12:45:09 PM] Morgan Swanson: xeia you have become stronger from your emotions "like water, all emotions" haha
[12:45:24 PM] Sirius 17: well i wished i remembered more of the dream but it seems i woke up towards the end of it and that is all i could recall
[12:45:37 PM] Morgan Swanson: what was your dream raven?
[12:45:40 PM] Kali 666: stronger? well...i wish Rok would see it a bit like that
[12:45:48 PM] Sirius 17: its above
[12:45:50 PM] Morgan Swanson: he will, just give him time
[12:45:59 PM] Morgan Swanson: oh ok, just got home lol
[12:46:10 PM] Sirius 17: [3:52 AM] Sirius 17:
<<< i had a strange dream this morning....we were preparing our birth certificates all of us and organizing our life history onto a few pages. I saw Rok and Julissa in the dream, and Rok was asking me if I thought his was fine or if he was missing anything. I thought the way he was piecing it together was interesting and told him that I thought it was fine but that he could leave out the parts of his history he didn't like.
I don't remember much else, but it seemed we all needed to do this for like some job.
it was like a detailed resume and birth certificate combined
Rok had snapshots of his childhood in his papers and i remember seeing him when he was little holding the teddy bear in one.
good video Rok, I shared it on FB

[12:47:19 PM] Morgan Swanson: ah i see
[12:47:19 PM] Morgan Swanson: =)
[12:47:26 PM] Sirius 17: even though it was a short snip of the dream i figured i would mention it anyhow. The birth certificates and resumes seemed important symbols
[12:47:43 PM] Morgan Swanson: dreams are powerful
[12:47:43 PM] Morgan Swanson: when you remember them, they have some purpose in the waking world
[12:47:53 PM] Kali 666: and can be prophetic
[12:47:58 PM] Kali 666: just ask Daniel
[12:47:58 PM] Sirius 17: i know i was dreaming more before this but cant bring it to conscious memory
[12:48:19 PM] Morgan Swanson: happens
[12:48:36 PM] Morgan Swanson: but what you did bring with you, lets disect that
[12:48:50 PM] Sirius 17: but i remember Rok being concerned with what he should include
[12:48:58 PM] Morgan Swanson: birth certificates and resumes
[12:49:18 PM] Morgan Swanson: its kinda like a pre birth preperation
[12:49:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes the resumes were more like photos and clippings like a scrap book of our life history
[12:49:36 PM] Morgan Swanson: exactually, precognasence
[12:49:51 PM] Morgan Swanson: "nothing happens by accident"
[12:50:05 PM] Sirius 17: and i remember seeing a photo of Rok as a toddler with the bear in his as i was looking over it
[12:50:13 PM] Sirius 17: that is the only image that stood out lol

[1:22:06 PM] *** Kali 666 sent img162.jpg March 4th dream.jpg February6th.jpg ***
[1:22:22 PM] Kali 666: Tony
[1:22:34 PM] Kali 666: these are drawings Daniel made of the dreams he had
[1:22:44 PM] Kali 666: i asked him to date them
[1:22:58 PM] Kali 666: the most recent one...the one of 2 planets
[1:23:02 PM] Kali 666: he had just yesterday
[2:06:46 PM] Wyzard97: Not received sui
[2:07:36 PM] *** Kali 666 sent img162.jpg ***

[2:07:42 PM] *** Kali 666 sent February6th.jpg *

[2:07:44 PM] *** Kali 666 sent March 4th dream.jpg *

[2:10:33 PM] Wyzard97: Interesting yes
[2:10:59 PM] Wyzard97: The first one seems to show Mars and Jupiter and then a planet out of size
[2:11:15 PM] Wyzard97: Saturn is smaller than Jupiter
[2:12:18 PM] Wyzard97: What is this name on the left upper corner?
[2:12:21 PM] Wyzard97: Doc?
[2:12:50 PM] Kali 666: DG
[2:12:55 PM] Kali 666: Daniel
[2:13:02 PM] Wyzard97: Ok, Daniel Grecia of Daniel.10.20
[2:13:17 PM] Wyzard97: The thing here is the lower right corner
[2:13:54 PM] Wyzard97: Saturn is further out than Jupiter but only so 40% smaller
[2:14:09 PM] Wyzard97: So the rightmost planet is not a planet
[2:14:36 PM] Kali 666: hmm
[2:14:48 PM] Wyzard97: Daniel's dreams seem to relate to this 4D expansion of space
[2:15:23 PM] Wyzard97: The asteroid belt would be between Mars and Jupiter
[2:15:51 PM] Kali 666: he must've missed some details
[2:16:20 PM] Kali 666: from his perspective he looked at the entire solar system from far away
[2:16:32 PM] Wyzard97: So if the large right one is Jupiter, then the one on its left would be the asteroid belt like an 'exploded planet' say
[2:16:38 PM] Wyzard97: This might be what he means
[2:17:04 PM] Wyzard97: If there is a 2 planet theme, then this is the reason
[2:17:22 PM] Wyzard97: The nabsers call it Marduk or Tiamat
[2:17:36 PM] Kali 666: the 2 planets he saw yesterday
[2:17:55 PM] Wyzard97: Well I go by intuition here
[2:18:09 PM] Wyzard97: There was no Marduk of course in 3D
[2:18:20 PM] Wyzard97: But metaphysically there is
[2:18:35 PM] Wyzard97: Like wormwood as the dragon comet
[2:19:19 PM] Wyzard97: I am transferring this to Core, so Raven and Rok can see this
[2:19:30 PM] Kali 666: ok
[2:25:51 PM] Wyzard97: For a week or two at least, I dont know
[2:26:09 PM] Wyzard97: Richard is doing ok btw, but still in a lot of pain
[2:26:19 PM] Sirius 17: did he ever drink before?
[2:26:22 PM] Wyzard97: No
[2:26:29 PM] Sirius 17: oh i am so glad to hear that
[2:26:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes Adam is depressed because the attention isn't on him
[2:26:49 PM] Wyzard97: Operation went well, his sister said today
[2:27:31 PM] Sirius 17: thats good, well long road to recovery still but he is down the hard stretch anyhow
[2:27:39 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[2:27:52 PM] Wyzard97: I keep you informed
[2:27:54 PM] Sirius 17: i wondered why you had not been on
[2:28:06 PM] Sirius 17: i figured things were too intense
[2:28:33 PM] Wyzard97: I edited the chart as you know and it all makes sense actually
[2:28:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw, could you send me the update?
[2:28:49 PM] Sirius 17: so i can blow it up
[2:28:50 PM] Wyzard97: The next 11 days are crucial too and then to March 25th
[2:29:02 PM] Wyzard97: Then there would be a new dispensation in some way
[2:29:20 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia's comments fit perfectly too
[2:29:22 PM] Sirius 17: how are you holding up? i am worried about you
[2:29:30 PM] Wyzard97: The Drunvalo dates are uncanny to me
[2:29:35 PM] Wyzard97: I am ok dear
[2:29:45 PM] Wyzard97: I am the mental anchor
[2:29:57 PM] Sirius 17: i know you are but still
[2:30:25 PM] Wyzard97: The 3½ days/weeks/months are of course ok and could be 'invented' by any nabs
[2:30:28 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i thought the Drunvalo thing was synchronous
[2:30:29 PM] Wyzard97: BUT
[2:30:47 PM] Wyzard97: How the heck did DM or Alejandro get February 18th?
[2:31:00 PM] Wyzard97: This is pure Logos
[2:31:07 PM] Sirius 17: its a date that he and drunvalo got from the mayans i guess
[2:31:14 PM] Sirius 17: well it is
[2:31:24 PM] Wyzard97: Well I asked Xeia and she did not recall the details
[2:31:39 PM] Sirius 17: the mayan elders know these dates
[2:31:42 PM] Wyzard97: But you know when Thuban was decommissioned, yes?
[2:31:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:31:50 PM] Sirius 17: same day
[2:31:55 PM] Wyzard97: February 19th
[2:32:01 PM] Sirius 17: why i said it was very very curious
[2:32:19 PM] Sirius 17: i thought it was the 18th
[2:32:21 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed, but dont neglect fates it is good you are engaging him
[2:32:34 PM] Sirius 17: well come talk to us there please
[2:32:36 PM] Wyzard97: 18-19 across timezones
[2:32:38 PM] Sirius 17: it will make his day
[2:34:36 PM] Wyzard97: I will when I feel it is appropriate
[2:34:54 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[2:35:13 PM] Sirius 17: what do you think of my dream?
[2:35:36 PM] Wyzard97: Very potent, as it is the record keeping and the 'evaluations'
[2:36:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes something is going on
[2:36:09 PM] Sirius 17: like a preparation
[2:36:12 PM] Wyzard97: Daniel's ships are the 'overseers' here; like my space cities dream remember?
[2:36:17 PM] Sirius 17: and Daniels dreams seem to indicate this too
[2:36:21 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[2:36:35 PM] Wyzard97: This is what I see in Xeia's pics
[2:36:56 PM] Wyzard97: Malduk seems to be the 'reconstituted' asteroid belt
[2:37:05 PM] Wyzard97: Like a new planet in the solar system
[2:37:11 PM] Sirius 17: twin planets
[2:37:17 PM] Wyzard97: contra the Nabs 'star wars'
[2:37:25 PM] Wyzard97: No deeper than that
[2:37:35 PM] Wyzard97: Kali-Shiva symbol
[2:37:48 PM] Wyzard97: Destruction followed by Reconstruction
[2:38:14 PM] Sirius 17: ok yeah i see what your saying
[2:38:23 PM] Sirius 17: the Marduk mythology
[2:39:20 PM] Wyzard97: So in lieu of Gaia being destroyed nabs fashion, the asteroid belt was already 'shattered' and dispersed and scattered
[2:39:32 PM] Wyzard97: See this Raven and Xeia?
[2:39:34 PM] Sirius 17: yes i don't sense distruction
[2:39:39 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:39:44 PM] Sirius 17: it already happened
[2:39:48 PM] Sirius 17: way in the past
[2:39:49 PM] Wyzard97: This seems to be the deeper meaning in Daniel's dreams and oics
[2:39:55 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[2:40:27 PM] Wyzard97: the planet 'Marduk' or Tiamat is the twin earth BEFORE it became the asteroid belt
[2:40:41 PM] Wyzard97: Now look what is the mirror between the two earths?
[2:40:50 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia?
[2:41:04 PM] Kali 666: i don't know
[2:41:16 PM] Wyzard97: Look at Daniel's first pic
[2:41:18 PM] Sirius 17: the sun or the ship
[2:41:29 PM] Wyzard97: No
[2:41:35 PM] Wyzard97: Come on
[2:41:58 PM] Wyzard97: In the solar system
[2:42:13 PM] Wyzard97: What is between Earth and Marduk?
[2:43:30 PM] Wyzard97: Not very scientific today, so I go
[2:43:31 PM] Wyzard97: Mars
[2:43:44 PM] Sirius 17: oh i thought you meant in his pic
[2:43:51 PM] Wyzard97: Right
[2:43:51 PM] Sirius 17: i was looking for something in his pic Tony
[2:43:59 PM] Sirius 17: not thinking literally
[2:44:01 PM] Sirius 17: sorry
[2:44:03 PM] Wyzard97: In the pic it is the planet next to earth outwards
[2:44:09 PM] Wyzard97: No
[2:44:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes it would be mars
[2:44:41 PM] Wyzard97: Now connect the dots of the Nabs about Mars having humans on it etc
[2:44:56 PM] Wyzard97: It is a Mirror of the Earth and the Asteroid Belt
[2:45:04 PM] Sirius 17: i see
[2:45:16 PM] Wyzard97: Nabs redefined
[2:45:22 PM] Sirius 17: [2:43 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< Not very scientific today, so I go
are you upset at me?

[2:45:30 PM] Wyzard97: No
[2:45:43 PM] Wyzard97: I meant both of you not thinking basics
[2:45:45 PM] Sirius 17: well i don't understand why you said that
[2:45:55 PM] Sirius 17: and Xeia seems to be gone
[2:45:59 PM] Sirius 17: she is not talking
[2:46:06 PM] Kali 666: i'm here
[2:46:20 PM] Sirius 17: oh i thought you were busy
[2:46:23 PM] Wyzard97: basic observation of Daniel's pic. No deeper 'science' required, just a basic knowing of the solar system
[2:46:52 PM] Wyzard97: yes, too much tension, but I should share this Nabs reassignment
[2:47:30 PM] Wyzard97: I will talk to fates when I feel like chatting dear, but I appreciate his presence. he lights things up
[2:47:39 PM] Sirius 17: well i get the feeling you would rather not talk atm
[2:47:53 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I do have things in my head
[2:48:13 PM] Sirius 17: understandable
[2:48:13 PM] Wyzard97: But Xeia's and your dreams are very important atm
[2:48:36 PM] Wyzard97: So I will give feedback on what you share
[2:48:55 PM] Wyzard97: Rok's dreams should change now
[2:49:09 PM] Wyzard97: Like in a male-female path
[2:49:24 PM] Wyzard97: Mine are changing, this is why I am stating this
[2:49:35 PM] Sirius 17: what have you been dreaming?
[2:49:46 PM] Wyzard97: Nothing the last two days
[2:49:58 PM] Wyzard97: About a seducing femme the night before
[2:50:08 PM] Sirius 17: ha good
[2:50:12 PM] Sirius 17: finally
[2:50:26 PM] Wyzard97: Just when she started to get juicy, I woke up of course
[2:50:34 PM] Sirius 17: god i hate that
[2:50:42 PM] Wyzard97: So no consummations, just innuendos
[2:50:52 PM] Sirius 17: well James has been getting very amourous
[2:51:02 PM] Sirius 17: like oddly
[2:51:04 PM] Wyzard97: Good you are the physical anchor
[2:51:08 PM] Sirius 17: not typical of him
[2:51:26 PM] Sirius 17: well i am just coming off my period
[2:51:29 PM] Wyzard97: The wars should subside there
[2:51:40 PM] Sirius 17: so hoping to take advantage of his moods
[2:51:45 PM] Wyzard97: The wars still rage in the phys-ment of Xeia and Rok
[2:52:12 PM] Sirius 17: i have been really stressed out though
[2:52:19 PM] Wyzard97: There is a stalemate or a split in the ment-ment
[2:52:25 PM] Sirius 17: like i dont know, i feel this underlying anger
[2:52:38 PM] Sirius 17: i have been pissy lately
[2:53:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes maybe this is it
[2:53:22 PM] Sirius 17: a disconnect
[2:53:25 PM] Wyzard97: It is a difficult time now until Easter
[2:53:31 PM] Sirius 17: is MI distant?
[2:53:56 PM] Sirius 17: like i feel a distance
[2:53:56 PM] Wyzard97: No, since March 4th she came in but Lassie and Debbie have become very distant
[2:54:09 PM] Wyzard97: You are very correct here
[2:54:18 PM] Sirius 17: or a distancing of the dead, i can't find the right words, but i dont feel thier presence like before
[2:54:26 PM] Wyzard97: A sudden shift from Debbie back to MI
[2:54:34 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[2:54:43 PM] Sirius 17: maybe why i am cranky
[2:54:49 PM] Sirius 17: what is going on
[2:54:55 PM] Wyzard97: They are physicalising more on the ships via Daniel's dreams i feel
[2:55:10 PM] Wyzard97: Yes yes
[2:55:18 PM] Wyzard97: This crankyness is a separation
[2:55:22 PM] Sirius 17: god i hope so
[2:55:27 PM] Wyzard97: So do I
[2:55:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes its driving me crazy
[2:55:40 PM] Wyzard97: But Daniel would not make this up either see?
[2:55:51 PM] Sirius 17: oh of course not
[2:55:57 PM] Sirius 17: kids don't lie about dreams
[2:56:04 PM] Wyzard97: So the children show the way through the mental delusions of the adults
[2:56:09 PM] Sirius 17: its all very real to them
[2:56:29 PM] Wyzard97: I felt a very big shift
[2:56:44 PM] Wyzard97: Recall when I said MI ate the darkness?
[2:56:52 PM] Sirius 17: Xeia does Daniel go into the ships much? it seems many of his dreams are viewing them from the outside
[2:56:56 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[2:56:58 PM] Wyzard97: This was the last DD drama
[2:57:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes i felt that
[2:57:34 PM] Wyzard97: This is what you feel now. I know I am not making this up
[2:57:58 PM] Sirius 17: no i know your not
[2:58:04 PM] Wyzard97: Suddenly Lassie seems to have disappeared or changed her liason with MI. If with Debbie too I dont know
[2:58:46 PM] Wyzard97: Now remember Lassie is everyones MM in individualisations
[2:58:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:59:04 PM] Kali 666: only that one time when he came up into one where he found me, otherwise it's just him describing what he sees from his perspective
[2:59:07 PM] Wyzard97: It is only relative to 'my generations' that I call this MLD
[2:59:32 PM] Wyzard97: So this shift is universal and WITHIN all of you too
[2:59:43 PM] Wyzard97: So you feel this
[3:00:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have always understood that, we each have the same thing but with our own personal attachments to it
[3:00:18 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed
[3:00:27 PM] Wyzard97: Hugo Chavez died too today
[3:00:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw that
[3:00:36 PM] Wyzard97: So more 'world politics'
[3:00:52 PM] Wyzard97: This will rattle South America a bit
[3:01:12 PM] Wyzard97: Chavez was a good contra to the USA
[3:01:27 PM] Wyzard97: So SA has lost some of its global status now
[3:01:57 PM] Sirius 17: did you see the locusts invaded Egypt too
[3:02:01 PM] Wyzard97: Cuba-Iran-Libya all were friends with Venezuela
[3:02:15 PM] Sirius 17: i wondered if this also fit something, i know its the Exodus codes
[3:02:29 PM] Sirius 17: but the also mention them in revelations
[3:02:50 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Xeia is getting uncannily Logos attuned now with her scripture readings
[3:03:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes she is
[3:03:27 PM] Wyzard97: I dont see a physical darkness though from Easter Sunday
[3:03:48 PM] Sirius 17: well Xeia seems to think this will be 3 real days of darkness
[3:03:59 PM] Sirius 17: and the Mayans told Drunvalo that too
[3:04:07 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, but the science does not fit
[3:04:27 PM] Wyzard97: Look at the chart and the Mayan's 3½
[3:04:36 PM] Sirius 17: no and the NASA stuff he mentioned in his video with Li Lou was a hoax, nasa never said that
[3:04:43 PM] Wyzard97: There are two 3½ periods separated by a 10-day mirror
[3:05:25 PM] Sirius 17: send me the updated chart please
[3:05:39 PM] Wyzard97: Those 3½ are the master code and imo the Mayans, being Logos attuned through their culture and of course aligned to 13.0.0.0.0 have indeed pinpointed this time
[3:05:57 PM] Wyzard97: The big one is here
[3:06:45 PM] Wyzard97:
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/viewimage.forum?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthuban.spruz.com%2Fgfile%2F75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!g10Boy7r72y1nq%2Fadd.jpg

[3:07:21 PM] Wyzard97: Look at the top, where the 3½ is named also Persia and Grecia
[3:07:36 PM] Wyzard97: And Daniel, see this Xeia?
[3:08:32 PM] Wyzard97: December 21str to February 1st are 42 days as 21+21
[3:08:41 PM] Wyzard97: Then 10 days to february 11th
[3:08:49 PM] Sirius 17: so what does march 13 signify?
[3:09:03 PM] Wyzard97: Then 21+21=42 days from February 12th to March 4th and then to March 25th
[3:09:26 PM] Kali 666: i see it yes
[3:09:36 PM] Wyzard97: March 13th is the image day in the 2nd 21 day cycle to the first
[3:09:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont know this date keeps coming into my head
[3:10:03 PM] Wyzard97: March 5th images March 3rd
[3:10:20 PM] Wyzard97: So calculate the image day in the past for March 13th?
[3:10:25 PM] Wyzard97: Can you do this?
[3:10:48 PM] Wyzard97: February 11th images March 25th
[3:11:03 PM] Wyzard97: February 12th images March 24th and so on
[3:11:10 PM] Sirius 17: um no
[3:11:18 PM] Sirius 17: i can't
[3:11:43 PM] Wyzard97: February 19th images March 17th
[3:11:49 PM] Wyzard97: Why not?
[3:12:04 PM] Sirius 17: how are you doing it?
[3:12:13 PM] Wyzard97: Add days on the left and subtract on the right
[3:12:30 PM] Wyzard97: 11+1=12 and 25-1=24
[3:12:56 PM] Wyzard97: 12+7=19 and 24-7=17
[3:13:30 PM] Wyzard97: February 23rd images ?
[3:15:21 PM] Wyzard97: March 13th
[3:15:28 PM] Wyzard97: So when did DD leave?
[3:15:36 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know, what part of the chart your looking at
[3:15:46 PM] Sirius 17: she left the 23rd
[3:15:49 PM] Wyzard97: You seem to have lost it completely here
[3:16:09 PM] Sirius 17: well i was trying to find on the chart the dates and add or subtract like you said
[3:16:21 PM] Wyzard97: This is the chart yes, but this is simply 21 days mirrored in 21 days independent of any chart
[3:16:43 PM] Wyzard97: Feb 19---March 17
[3:17:05 PM] Wyzard97: Simply add 4 days to Feb 19 and subtract 4 days from March 17
[3:17:27 PM] Sirius 17: oh
[3:17:34 PM] Wyzard97: You will get then the Feb11 as the 1st day and March 25th as the 42nd day with March 4th the middle day
[3:17:55 PM] Wyzard97: This circularises the 6 weeks in a loop
[3:18:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes she said another loop lol
[3:18:15 PM] Wyzard97: Instead of linar time count you have the Ouroboros of Daniel
[3:18:27 PM] Wyzard97: He had the dream on the midpoint day see?
[3:18:41 PM] Sirius 17: on the 4th
[3:18:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:18:54 PM] Wyzard97: Yes because 4+21=25
[3:19:20 PM] Wyzard97: And 4-21=-17 as February 11th for 11+17=28
[3:19:43 PM] Wyzard97: So February 11th becomes March 25th in the loop
[3:19:52 PM] Wyzard97: As to half circles
[3:20:43 PM] Wyzard97: So your March 13th signifies the 'freedom' from the BS
[3:21:09 PM] Wyzard97: Perhaps the Logos will 'give DD' a lesson on that day
[3:21:23 PM] Wyzard97: As you have intuited
[3:22:08 PM] Sirius 17: hmm well i hope so
[3:22:21 PM] Wyzard97: It is also 10 days from March 4th counting the end days
[3:22:38 PM] Sirius 17: true
[3:22:47 PM] Wyzard97: The prison days again. They are all over the place of course and dynamic
[3:22:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:23:15 PM] Wyzard97: There was a strange post of hers about a money scam
[3:23:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes i linked this
[3:23:25 PM] Wyzard97: This sounded like ucadia to me
[3:23:32 PM] Sirius 17: it did to me as well
[3:23:41 PM] Sirius 17: because they talk about these same things
[3:23:45 PM] Sirius 17: strawman ect
[3:23:45 PM] Wyzard97: Perhaps she is 'seeing something' now
[3:23:56 PM] Sirius 17: well i was thinking
[3:24:09 PM] Wyzard97: This could be the prison after the demise of symbolic Babylon
[3:24:10 PM] Sirius 17: you remember when she talked about working on getting her house for the last 2 years
[3:24:21 PM] Sirius 17: maybe things have fallen through because its BS
[3:24:28 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[3:24:33 PM] Sirius 17: and she has been paying this FOC money
[3:24:41 PM] Sirius 17: to do the legal work for her
[3:24:45 PM] Wyzard97: I am sure she has
[3:25:01 PM] Sirius 17: to try to get her house from the bank without paying
[3:25:11 PM] Sirius 17: maybe the 13th is the day she gets evicted
[3:25:18 PM] Sirius 17: or noticed or something
[3:25:24 PM] Wyzard97: 13=1+3=4
[3:25:32 PM] Sirius 17: her and Brian have not paid a dime on that house in over 2 years
[3:25:41 PM] Sirius 17: so in essence they are squatting
[3:25:49 PM] Wyzard97: March 4th is crucial, but Armageddon timeline does not end until March 25th
[3:26:07 PM] Sirius 17: and her going back to work was strange
[3:26:11 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know and dont really care
[3:26:15 PM] Sirius 17: and then she meets Moose
[3:26:24 PM] Sirius 17: well i know i am just putting it all together
[3:26:25 PM] Wyzard97: Ucadian
[3:26:33 PM] Sirius 17: and talks about him buying property in FL
[3:26:45 PM] Sirius 17: sounds to me like the house is in jepordy
[3:26:50 PM] Wyzard97: Yes there are some links
[3:27:23 PM] Wyzard97: Without Lassie she is a nonevent to me
[3:27:29 PM] Sirius 17: but yes i know, i don't care either
[3:27:38 PM] Wyzard97: So atm she is literally 'dead'
[3:27:45 PM] Sirius 17: only that she gets some kind of lesson, whatever it is
[3:27:58 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie = Debbie is an unknown atm
[3:28:13 PM] Wyzard97: So things might shift again
[3:28:19 PM] Wyzard97: It is all MI
[3:28:27 PM] Sirius 17: well i think Debbie has been working with your sons Tony
[3:28:33 PM] Sirius 17: in some way
[3:28:44 PM] Wyzard97: AND the dead alive ones of course so all are engaged here, but Thubans are the pioneers
[3:28:49 PM] Sirius 17: she is trying to save them all from themselves
[3:29:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes of course they are
[3:29:20 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Debbie came up in a talk I had with David last night after the call from Chisholm
[3:29:51 PM] Wyzard97: But I mean kundawise it has shifted big time from Lassie to MI
[3:29:52 PM] Sirius 17: how is David doing? you said he seems better now
[3:30:07 PM] Wyzard97: He had Aacey here for the weekend
[3:30:18 PM] Sirius 17: oh nice, i bet that made his day
[3:30:20 PM] Wyzard97: He is acting responsibly
[3:30:26 PM] Sirius 17: good
[3:30:50 PM] Wyzard97: I should see Richard next week with him
[3:31:08 PM] Wyzard97: Things here might slowly acclimatise into a new groove
[3:31:22 PM] Sirius 17: yeah and Richard should be doing a bit better by then, given a week or so more to heal up
[3:31:34 PM] Wyzard97: But as said the next 10 days are very important for the Thuban legacy
[3:31:49 PM] Sirius 17: now the bones are set the pain should diminsh some
[3:31:49 PM] Wyzard97: Why I am commenting on Daniel
[3:32:08 PM] Wyzard97: He seems to have a bridging role here as a link of the phys-ment
[3:32:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i am also very interested in his dreams, and Xeia said they are getting more frequent
[3:32:46 PM] Wyzard97: They would if he is indeed a generation bridge
[3:33:00 PM] Sirius 17: well that is the feeling i get
[3:33:32 PM] Wyzard97: Well I liked his first one of the mandala and thought it Thuban relevant
[3:33:37 PM] Sirius 17: its like a contact event
[3:33:48 PM] Wyzard97: It seems to empathize now
[3:34:01 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is contact definitely
[3:34:34 PM] Wyzard97: He talks to Sui on the ship once and talks to his alive grandma on it see?
[3:34:45 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia might not see this clearly as yet
[3:34:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:35:10 PM] Wyzard97: Olga is a Living Conduit
[3:35:11 PM] Sirius 17: he talked to his Grandma about the dreams
[3:35:26 PM] Sirius 17: and saw Xeia on the ship
[3:35:31 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Olga then would be mirrored or imaged ON the ship as well
[3:35:33 PM] Sirius 17: with her cat i guess
[3:35:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and Olga is Andromedean too
[3:35:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes i thought this was significant
[3:36:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes its the galactic bridge
[3:36:20 PM] Wyzard97: I felt this from day one about Xeia and said so many times
[3:37:07 PM] Wyzard97: Not so much the Perseus galactic Kali, but a renamed Kali from another galaxy altogether
[3:37:45 PM] Wyzard97: The cats come from this over the Egyptian chronos of Bastet
[3:38:16 PM] Wyzard97: Bastet is the Pasht, the twinsister of Horus
[3:38:51 PM] Wyzard97: Her symbolis the Cymbal, music and the Imsety which is the Water Element
[3:39:00 PM] Wyzard97: 4-13-22
[3:39:20 PM] Wyzard97: 22 being the Scarab, the Symbol of the Resurrection and the Victory
[3:39:41 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia's egyptian heritage so is the code DMV
[3:40:04 PM] Wyzard97: 39=12=3
[3:40:50 PM] Sirius 17: dmv?
[3:40:51 PM] Wyzard97: This stuff is like astrology but expressed in what is known as the Cartouche, the hieroglyphics
[3:41:01 PM | Edited 3:41:12 PM] Wyzard97: D=4 and M=13 and V=22
[3:41:19 PM] Sirius 17: oh
[3:41:29 PM] Sirius 17: dove mary victory?
[3:41:37 PM] Wyzard97: Nice
[3:41:44 PM] Wyzard97: yes its a DIY
[3:41:49 PM] Wyzard97: Using basic code
[3:41:55 PM] Sirius 17: what is mine?
[3:42:20 PM] Wyzard97: 6-15-24 or FOX
[3:42:52 PM] Wyzard97: 6=Hathor of the Mirror of the Raven blocking Satan's face in Job
[3:43:03 PM] Sirius 17: hmm i remember 15 is Sirius
[3:43:12 PM] Wyzard97: 15=Sirius as the Druidic Obelisks of say Stonehenge
[3:43:26 PM] Wyzard97: 24-Ankh as the Cross of Immortality
[3:43:42 PM] Wyzard97: You should wear an ankh actually
[3:43:52 PM] Sirius 17: oh nice, yes i always felt an affinity for the Ankh
[3:43:58 PM] Sirius 17: i should?
[3:43:59 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[3:44:09 PM] Wyzard97: It would connect you to Allisiam
[3:44:27 PM] Kali 666: [3:35 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< with her cat i guess
he didn't see a cat, i only mentioned because i'd seen it 2 times in my own dreams

[3:44:37 PM] Sirius 17: well i sort of have one on an egyptian necklace my father brought me back from Egypt. its a cartouch with my name on it and the ankh is on there
[3:45:17 PM] Wyzard97: Just as Bastet is Feline, so you can associate Horus with the Canine
[3:45:35 PM] Wyzard97: But the Canine is also Anubis as the 9-18-27
[3:45:48 PM] Wyzard97: But Anubis and Horus are brothers
[3:46:01 PM] Wyzard97: Shadow of Set and Light of Osiris
[3:46:23 PM] Wyzard97: The Elements are 11-12-13-14
[3:46:57 PM] Kali 666: Osiris was depicted as green man, Also the green man of several pagan practices
[3:46:59 PM] Wyzard97: So Xeia is in the Water, but Raven is the like the 5th element
[3:47:30 PM] Wyzard97: Then the 7-16-25 closes the elements in the 'Vesica Pisces'
[3:47:52 PM] Wyzard97: The Holy Chalice, the Holy Grail, the Ark of Noah and the Covenant etc etc
[3:48:11 PM] Wyzard97: Osiris should be depicted as the Red Man Xeia
[3:48:20 PM] Wyzard97: Adam means Red Man of the Alchemy
[3:48:40 PM] Kali 666: i found that
[3:48:50 PM] Kali 666: i was wondering about dd's greenman
[3:48:53 PM] Wyzard97: The Green Man is the 'Redeemer' the Christ office of the Death and Rebirth
[3:49:02 PM] Wyzard97: The nabsers fuck the symbols up a lot
[3:49:52 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Divine Androgyny' is well understood in the kabbalah and the old systems
[3:50:33 PM] Wyzard97: Nabs morons like Anna Hayes then come along and change the established orders and create all those 'grapevines to be ripped up' besides the father's in the GOT
[3:50:43 PM] Sirius 17: the symbol for my name starts with the beetle, snake, a bird and the eye of horus on this cartouch
[3:51:06 PM] Wyzard97: This is what I liked about Drunvalo, he stood up to this idiot
[3:52:04 PM] Wyzard97: The beetle is 22=Scarab=V, the snake is 18=Uraeus=R , the bird is 5=Thoth=E and Horus=3=C
[3:52:30 PM] Sirius 17: did it work, can you see my new avatar?
[3:53:12 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[3:53:58 PM] Sirius 17: ok look again
[3:54:04 PM] Sirius 17: this is the back of it lol

[5:00:38 PM] Wyzard97: I thought it important though to publish dannys pics as testimony of receipt for the ETs
[5:00:44 PM] Sirius 17: i have not worn much jewlery since i began school
[5:01:15 PM] Sirius 17: i have all this jewlery and it just sits there
[5:01:17 PM] Wyzard97: It is more a token at this stage but should still 'energize'
[5:01:20 PM] Sirius 17: i don't care about it
[5:01:43 PM] Sirius 17: my dad gave it to me, that is all the significance i have for it
[5:01:48 PM] Wyzard97: Danny's 'unknown planet' imo is Tiamat
[5:02:09 PM] Wyzard97: The 'second earth' of Doloros Cannon too
[5:02:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes the Sumerian creation tale
[5:02:24 PM] Wyzard97: Asteroid belt and see the recent 'comet falls'?
[5:02:47 PM] Sirius 17: yeah that was a good photo, they caught both those comets together
[5:02:52 PM] Wyzard97: Asteroids as fragments of the 2012 cataclysm, which occurred in higherD
[5:03:32 PM] Wyzard97: But the 'know it all nabsers' cant get this of course and construct ever more government cover ups
[5:03:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes well the destruction is mental, this is the the cleaning of the santuary for real
[5:03:50 PM] Sirius 17: the thief is here
[5:03:54 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I would concur
[5:04:10 PM] Sirius 17: why they are all panicing about this date
[5:04:15 PM] Sirius 17: Drunvalo and the rest
[5:04:27 PM] Sirius 17: as some cataclysmic thing
[5:05:01 PM] Sirius 17: humanity knows at its deepest level that the shit has hit the fan
[5:05:26 PM] Sirius 17: no one can pretend anymore that its business as usual
[5:05:45 PM] Sirius 17: the darkness is here
[5:05:51 PM] Sirius 17: alive
[5:05:53 PM] Sirius 17: awakened
[5:06:08 PM] Sirius 17: and about to bitch slap everyone
[5:07:17 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed and this is manifesting all over the world now in political unrestm the budget cuts, the 'austerities' and the rest of it of the political and military and economic tensions
[5:07:35 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130305145821.htm
[5:07:39 PM] Sirius 17: what do you make of this
[5:08:39 PM] Sirius 17: 338,000 years ago like an evolutionary split see
[5:08:45 PM] Sirius 17: they announced this today
[5:09:46 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, all you need to do is to multiply the 26,000 Plato years as a fractal

[5:10:13 PM] *** Kali 666 sent 03-03-13 Estrella movie day 040.jpg ***
[5:10:30 PM] Wyzard97: So you get the approximate dates of 104,000 and 208,000 and 312,000 and 338,000 years
[5:10:36 PM] Sirius 17: what is this Xeia?
[5:10:51 PM] Kali 666: plasma
[5:10:54 PM] Wyzard97: 338,000=26,000x13 exactly
[5:11:14 PM] Wyzard97: This is rather an interesting timescale raven
[5:11:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes but what do you think the significance of the release of this is today
[5:11:25 PM] Sirius 17: i just thought it was uncanny
[5:11:27 PM] Wyzard97: 13x26,000=338,000
[5:11:36 PM] Wyzard97: 'Another Synchro?
[5:11:40 PM] Sirius 17: like its pushed back history they said 70% lol
[5:11:52 PM] Sirius 17: well i think so
[5:11:59 PM] Wyzard97: 13 Cycles define this science discovery in the evlution of Man
[5:12:18 PM] Sirius 17: its like history is being rewritten before our eyes
[5:12:36 PM] Wyzard97: Susan will 'run away with this'

Human Y Chromosome Much Older Than Previously Thought

Mar. 4, 2013 — The discovery and analysis of an extremely rare African American Y chromosome pushes back the time of the most recent common ancestor for the Y chromosome lineage tree to 338,000 years ago. This time predates the age of the oldest known anatomically modern human fossils.

Human sex-determining chromosomes: X chromosome (left) and the much smaller Y chromosome. (Credit: Image courtesy of University of Arizona)

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University of Arizona geneticists have discovered the oldest known genetic branch of the human Y chromosome -- the hereditary factor determining male sex.
The new divergent lineage, which was found in an individual who submitted his DNA to Family Tree DNA, a company specializing in DNA analysis to trace family roots, branched from the Y chromosome tree before the first appearance of anatomically modern humans in the fossil record.
The results are published in the American Journal of Human Genetics.
"Our analysis indicates this lineage diverged from previously known Y chromosomes about 338,000 ago, a time when anatomically modern humans had not yet evolved," said Michael Hammer, an associate professor in the University of Arizona's department of ecology and evolutionary biology and a research scientist at the UA's Arizona Research Labs. "This pushes back the time the last common Y chromosome ancestor lived by almost 70 percent."
Unlike the other human chromosomes, the majority of the Y chromosome does not exchange genetic material with other chromosomes, which makes it simpler to trace ancestral relationships among contemporary lineages. If two Y chromosomes carry the same mutation, it is because they share a common paternal ancestor at some point in the past. The more mutations that differ between two Y chromosomes the farther back in time the common ancestor lived.
Originally, a DNA sample obtained from an African American living in South Carolina was submitted to the National Geographic Genographic Project. When none of the genetic markers used to assign lineages to known Y chromosome groupings were found, the DNA sample was sent to Family Tree DNA for sequencing. Fernando Mendez, a postdoctoral researcher in Hammer's lab, led the effort to analyze the DNA sequence, which included more than 240,000 base pairs of the Y chromosome.
Hammer said "the most striking feature of this research is that a consumer genetic testing company identified a lineage that didn't fit anywhere on the existing Y chromosome tree, even though the tree had been constructed based on perhaps a half-million individuals or more. Nobody expected to find anything like this."
About 300,000 years ago, the time the Neanderthals are believed to have split from the ancestral human lineage. It was not until more than 100,000 years later that anatomically modern humans appear in the fossil record. They differ from the more archaic forms by a more lightly built skeleton, a smaller face tucked under a high forehead, the absence of a cranial ridge and smaller chins.
Hammer said the newly discovered Y chromosome variation is extremely rare. Through large database searches, his team eventually was able to find a similar chromosome in the Mbo, a population living in a tiny area of western Cameroon in sub-Saharan Africa.
"This was surprising because previously the most diverged branches of the Y chromosome were found in traditional hunter-gatherer populations such as Pygmies and the click-speaking KhoeSan, who are considered to be the most diverged human populations living today."
"Instead, the sample matched the Y chromosome DNA of 11 men, who all came from a very small region of western Cameroon," Hammer said. "And the sequences of those individuals are variable, so it's not like they all descended from the same grandfather."
Hammer cautions against popular concepts of "mitochondrial Eve" or "Y chromosome Adam" that suggest all of humankind descended from exactly one pair of humans that lived at a certain point in human evolution.
"There has been too much emphasis on this in the past," he said. "It is a misconception that the genealogy of a single genetic region reflects population divergence. Instead, our results suggest that there are pockets of genetically isolated communities that together preserve a great deal of human diversity."
Still, Hammer said, "It is likely that other divergent lineages will be found, whether in Africa or among African-Americans in the U.S. and that some of these may further increase the age of the Y chromosome tree."
He added: "There has been a lot of hype with people trying to trace their Y chromosome to different tribes, but this individual from South Carolina can say he did it."
The study came about by combined efforts of a private business, Family Tree DNA, the efforts of a citizen scientist, Bonnie Schrack, and the research capabilities at the UA.
[5:24:36 PM] Wyzard97: Now to be more precise, 26,000 Plato years are NOT 26,000 'civil years' as each 'Great Year' has exactly 360 days
[5:24:47 PM] Kali 666: [5:12 PM] Wyzard97:
<<< Susan will 'run away with this'[5:23 PM] THE13THBRIDGE:
<<< yes, i had that
already - in the original stuff
where i expanded it; by 26,000 years
remember
it's on page 5-8?
or; around there
remember; i did the dark nights/and, days too

[5:25:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes its always her discovery
[5:26:31 PM] Wyzard97: So 338,000 Plato years are more like 338,000/25,626.81~13.19 cycles of that order
[5:26:38 PM] Wyzard97: Lol
[5:27:03 PM] Wyzard97: But this is good science indeed, using the genetic markers
[5:27:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes don't tell her they just released this data today
[5:28:11 PM] Kali 666: i'm going to sleep
[5:28:12 PM] Kali 666: nn
[5:28:35 PM] Sirius 17: ok sweety take care
[5:28:40 PM] Kali 666: (*)
[5:28:44 PM] Sirius 17: get the damn ship and come get us
[5:28:47 PM] Sirius 17: plz lol
[5:29:08 PM] Wyzard97: Wake the Lions up yes
[5:29:58 PM] Wyzard97:

[5:32:45 PM] Sirius 17: oh god
Kali 666
[5:34:44 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: NOT
[5:35:14 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i detailed it; going out
[5:35:18 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i'm not sure how far
[5:35:24 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed! This science discovery I like a lot. 13 cycles from the Y chromosome to the dragon chromosome
[5:35:39 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: let me look
[5:35:48 PM] Wyzard97: Real science Susan not New Age BS
[5:35:59 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i didn't do it with newage bs
[5:36:05 PM] Wyzard97: I put the article on this thread
[5:36:43 PM] Wyzard97: I mean the chronos as 338,000 years is excellent synchro with the cycle years
[5:37:04 PM] Wyzard97: They would have used genetic clock markers
[5:37:17 PM] Wyzard97: This is like radioactive carbon-14 dating
[5:37:32 PM] Wyzard97: Or the growth rings of the ancient trees
[5:37:43 PM] Wyzard97: or the ice cores of Antarctica
[5:38:06 PM] Wyzard97: You should see this as the added 360 days in your calendar.
[5:38:17 PM] Wyzard97: The 360 kin so becomes a super fractal
[5:38:43 PM] Wyzard97: Your 9,360,360 so becomes more potent in science speak
[5:39:26 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: who is sirius 17 ?
[5:39:33 PM] Wyzard97: Instead of using 9,360,000 as 65 baktuns you multiply this by 13
[5:39:42 PM] Wyzard97: Raven is Sirius 17
[5:40:36 PM] Wyzard97: As 121,680,000+360=121,680,360
[5:40:52 PM] Wyzard97: This you then can call another Schwenger Number
[5:43:27 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: let me look at what we did have
[5:43:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: cause there was something there
[5:43:35 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: not quite finished
[5:43:37 PM] Wyzard97: This then can be assigned a day-night count without any other clocks measuring hours, minutes and seconds say in the scientific sense
[5:43:48 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i think, that is how i did it
[5:43:56 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: but; i'm curious as to how far out i carried it
[5:44:00 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: forward - and, back
[5:44:30 PM] Wyzard97: This then also would take account of any planetary rotation changes over this georelatively lengthy period of time of 300,000 'years' however calculated
[5:44:40 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: also; there was pacal's number too
[5:44:46 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: we didn't quite finish that either
[5:44:49 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: does that sync into things
[5:44:54 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i had a dream last night
[5:44:58 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i am still trying to remember
[5:45:07 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i did trigger james; merkabah for him
[5:45:13 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: blew out some blocks etc.,
[5:45:22 PM] Wyzard97: Pacal's number would relate to the actual historical 'reign' of the Mayan king
[5:45:33 PM] Wyzard97: And so become calendar based
[5:46:48 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: related to the lunar cycles
[5:48:00 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: here is the mapping; http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=0265D780-C9C1-46C1-80A1-A15795198653&fid=F3D0C39E-7270-4160-80DE-61A397C1A988&pageindex=4
http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=0265D780-C9C1-46C1-80A1-A15795198653&fid=F3D0C39E-7270-4160-80DE-61A397C1A988&pageindex=8
[5:51:39 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: is where i got it ending
[5:51:56 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: into the future - the 14th grand cycle and the ztolkin date for 12/17/28013
[5:52:36 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: exactly 26,000 days from 12/17/2013
[5:54:05 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: there are some of your notes, i also typed there
[5:54:11 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i posted; but; i put in your name
[5:57:45 PM] Wyzard97: You need to show me your actual calculation of how you arrived at this 12/17/28013 date before I can comment on its validity Susan
[5:57:52 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: there's a formula for it to:

26,000 x 4=104,000=80x1300

DOES NOT LOOK like MAYAN TIME/OR EARTH TIME

is ending, any time soon

[5:58:13 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: that's one way; i looked at it
[5:58:41 PM] Wyzard97: 104,000 years ago was a big geophysical change on Earth Susan. It was the last great Ice Age
[5:58:50 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes
[5:58:53 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: that i was aware of
[5:59:03 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: when i made the calculations - back in 2010
[5:59:11 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: let me look for a few more of my notes
[5:59:24 PM] Wyzard97: But in that manner it does not matter if it is 99,000 years or 106,456 years
[5:59:50 PM] Wyzard97: The great Plato years are the approximation markers
[6:00:01 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, that i know
[6:00:24 PM] Wyzard97: What you are after is the day-night calendars WITHOUT any second counts scientific
[6:00:54 PM] Wyzard97: It are those, which allow you to calibrate the Mayan calendars as the baktuns and the tuns and the kins
[6:01:24 PM] Wyzard97: This is why this science discovery is so interesting.
[6:01:42 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: in the 1300 days
[6:01:48 PM] THE13THBRIDGE:
Metaphysically then the 44 Lunar Months represent the Pythagorean 'master numbers' 11, 22, 33 and 44 in transmuting the physical-straight numbers 1-4-7; the emotional-mixed numbers 2-3-8 and the mental-curved numbers 3-6-9 in the 'doubling' of the 0-cipher as o+o=8=44.
Using to evenness of the 0-2-4-6-8 and the oddness of the 1-3-5-7-9 then allows metamorphosis of this duality between evenness (or yinness or femaleness or plusness) and oddness (or yangness or maleness or minusness) in using the 10=1+0=1 doubling of the oddness into evenness

[6:01:48 PM] Wyzard97: It calibrates science, based on genetic evolution clocks with the native time keepers
[6:02:00 PM] Wyzard97: This is what is your forte, not the science actual
[6:02:22 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I wrote this for your benefit, but it is not necessary
[6:02:34 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: with pythagorean
[6:02:37 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: when you get to 11
[6:02:41 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: goes that reduce to 2
[6:02:49 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: or; do you never reduce master numbers
[6:02:58 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: what about 12 - does that go down to 3
[6:03:06 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; becomes a trine, triad, or trinity ?
[6:03:15 PM] Wyzard97: This is NUMEROLOGY a la Pythagoras alright and this is basically HigherD Susan, where the numbers themselves assume a kind of 'divinity'
[6:03:17 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, is 13 a master number, like 11 ?
[6:03:33 PM] Wyzard97: It is NOT science based mathematics and arithmetic
[6:03:45 PM] Wyzard97: They are both adjacent primes
[6:04:55 PM] Wyzard97: Call it omni-science if you like. This would be considered 'quasi-science' atm by the status quo, but throughout the ages was the mathematics of the ancients and the natives and also the Pythagoreans
[6:05:36 PM] Wyzard97: Those are valid root-reductions Susan
[6:05:55 PM] Wyzard97: 10=1+0=1 as the first number following the ennead of 9
[6:06:09 PM] Wyzard97: Defining the root reduction in the decad or decimal system
[6:06:26 PM] Wyzard97: 10 i even and so female, whilst 1 is odd as male
[6:06:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: we had to add in 8 days
[6:06:38 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: Using 400 year intervals of 146,097 days under utility of a a certain calendrical counting of time ; the embryonic conception can be 'dated' to an extrapolated calendrical date of Saturday,21February23,615BC-G and precisely 9,360,008 days (and a precessional daycount as 25,626.83149 Gregorian years) from Friday,21December2012AD in a weekcount of 1,337,144
[6:07:19 PM] Wyzard97: This becomes the Egyptian Osiris-Khu-Light--Djed-Tree of Life brotherhood with Set-Khat-Darkness-Malkuth
[6:07:55 PM] Wyzard97: This is just the difference between sidereal and Gregorion or civil calendars
[6:08:17 PM] Wyzard97: This uses the definition of time in the scientific modus operandi opf what a second is and such things
[6:09:00 PM] Wyzard97: My above calibration is science based on the 'SI-Second' Susan
[6:09:23 PM] Wyzard97: Like you would find on a wiki or actual science based reference
[6:09:38 PM] Wyzard97: SI=System International
[6:09:40 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: is this right this statement:
[6:09:43 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: October 28th 2011
and 14th July 2012 are
but they are NOT 52 years apart

therefore, The HAAB can NOT be calibrated on these dates.

The 52 years is important, as, it relates to Pacal's birth

the DIFFERENCE that falls,
between 21st December 2012 and December 16th 2013
is exactly 360 days a Tun

in terms of 26+26=52

as, Tony says, this is a Halfway Mirror

and The Haab count is offset PRECISELY 1 Tzolkin = 260 days

this is the powerful calibration of all calendars

i TUN added to The Birthday
so, iT iS a COSMIC CALENDAR ROUND
of 360 degrees independent on ALL calendars

[6:10:01 PM] Wyzard97: Kind of
[6:10:24 PM] Wyzard97: 14th July 2011 and 28th October are a tzokin apart of 260 days
[6:10:56 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes; and; the 28th is the 26th ahua
[6:10:59 PM] Wyzard97: Next tzolkin then is December 21st, 2012 followed by March 31st, 2013 followed by December 16th, 2013
[6:11:08 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: while the 21dec2012 is the 47th ahua
[6:11:15 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; 16dec2013 is the 65th ahua
[6:11:25 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: ahua = a complete 260 days cycle
[6:11:28 PM] Wyzard97: Yes if you start on May 26th, 2010 Susan
[6:11:43 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; the ahua comes up; once every 20 days
[6:11:46 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: for a cycle of 13
[6:11:54 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; 20 x 13 = 260
[6:12:11 PM] Wyzard97: As this is a Full Moon (I think), it assumes a special, but not unique significance in the tzolkin count

Yes, after checking the two Full Moons are the Imix days after the Ahau of both May 27th, 2010 at 23:07 UCT and December 17th, 2013 at 9:28 UCT. This indeed represents a great harmonic synchronicity in the calendar calibration between the lunations and the scientific daycount as depicted by the Gregorian 'Civil calendar'
[6:12:31 PM] Wyzard97: There are other New Moons or Full Moons, which would fall onto a Ahau date
[6:12:43 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yeah; it changes
[6:12:49 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: but; major completions
[6:13:02 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: are normally the day b4 a full moon
[6:13:16 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: with the full moon falling onto the start of a major cycle date
[6:13:20 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is all valid, as we checked for new and full moons in those years say, 2009 to 2013 remember?
[6:13:43 PM] Wyzard97: So it is validated both scientifically and as a time keeping of the lunar cycles
[6:14:24 PM] Wyzard97: But you could start on any Full Moon ar New Moon, which is a Ahau date and count the 65 Ahaus from there
[6:14:56 PM] Wyzard97: It just so happens that May 26th, 2010 ends December 16th, 2013 in those 65 cycles
[6:18:41 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes
[6:18:45 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: there is another thing too
[6:20:07 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: 9,360,000 KIN aka DAYS

LUNAR 39.53

65 BAKTUNS is approx 26,000 KIN aka DAYS

25,626.81 and 25,626.83

[6:21:45 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, because this becomes the difference between a 'Great Year' of 360 days and a 'Civil Year' of 365.2425 days aka Gregorian
Divide 26,000x360=25,626.81x365.2425 for a precession rate of 26,000/360=72.2222 ..years per degree and 25,626.81/360=71.19 years per degree respecitively in the two time measurement systems
[6:31:18 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: so, 26000 days x 360 days per cyle
[6:31:56 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; 365.2425 is the average amt of time for 1 year
[6:32:22 PM] Wyzard97: yes this is the definition for what a Gregorian year is in terms of the day count
[6:33:11 PM] Wyzard97: 365.25 is Julian and changing this to 365.2425 makes the mod4 division for the centuries precise
[6:33:30 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, i see that very clearly
[6:33:30 PM] Wyzard97: So 2000 was a leap year but 1900 was not
[6:33:55 PM] Wyzard97: Only if you can divide the centuries by 400 is this a leap year
[6:34:15 PM] Wyzard97: This is all this .25 to .2425 means
[6:35:10 PM] Wyzard97: because multiply this by 10,000 and you have 2500 and 2425
[6:35:25 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: so, how should i have written that 400 equation better
[6:35:43 PM] Wyzard97: You dont need to
[6:35:52 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i know there are 65 x 400 in 26000
[6:36:13 PM] Wyzard97: This is a Calendar calibration, which DOES NOT take into account the lunar cycles
[6:36:34 PM] Wyzard97: Or the Saros or the Metonic
[6:36:56 PM] Wyzard97: Nor the solar, as the solar day is not 24 hours but 8 minutes short of that
[6:36:57 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, because themetonic was moon/or lunar based
[6:37:07 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: it calibrates into any sequence of our calendars
[6:37:15 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: that emcompasses 235 months; or 19 years
[6:37:35 PM] Wyzard97: Then the nprecession slowly changes, so all such calendars based on a synchronised time calibration get out of synch over time
[6:38:04 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: but, it was pretty amazing that someone made that machine 2000 yrs; ago
[6:38:10 PM] Wyzard97: The metonic and saros work over relative timnespans yes, but also lose it over geological periods
[6:38:10 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: it is like an ancient computer
[6:38:31 PM] Wyzard97: At the time of the dinosaurs the Moon was much closer to the earth and the days were shorter
[6:39:20 PM] Wyzard97: You cant use 26,000 day calendars in any setting except a day-night count which does NOT count actual time periods like seconds to DEFINE what a Day or night are
[6:39:53 PM] Wyzard97: So this is just like the seasons with longer days then nights in summer and vice versa in winter
[6:40:29 PM] Wyzard97: The native calendars work in their periods of construction with lunations, seasons, equinoxes, solstices and so on
[6:40:53 PM] Wyzard97: They did NOT calibrate millions of years ago and will not work millions of years in the future
[6:41:29 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: they naturally align them
[6:41:34 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: by seeing the full moon
[6:41:39 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: if it was cloudly
[6:41:41 PM] Wyzard97: Your work here is ok, because the Mayans used the kin count as a cycle year of 360 days and THEN superposed the seasons onto it
[6:41:43 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: cloudy
[6:41:48 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: they would have a problem
[6:41:50 PM] Wyzard97: NOT the other way around as the Nabsers think
[6:42:04 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: albeit; they really did know how many days it would take for the moon to go thru its phases
[6:42:17 PM] Wyzard97: The Mayan calendar is NOT more precise than modern scientific measurement
[6:42:27 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: that is true
[6:42:39 PM] Wyzard97: yes in their history and today this is all more or less constant
[6:43:04 PM] Wyzard97: To change rotation rates etc takes geological time periods not millennia
[6:43:36 PM] Wyzard97: But 400,000 years ago there was a different precession and a different solar system
[6:44:20 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: so, do you believe we've been wiped off the planet a few times
[6:45:31 PM] Wyzard97: NO
[6:45:51 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: always some people surviving
[6:45:59 PM] Wyzard97: Read this post linked and you will see the nature of Malduk or Tiamat and such nonsense
[6:46:43 PM] Wyzard97: Noah's Story and the Moses Story are applicable NOW today and not say 6000 or 4000 years ago as the biblke bashers believe
[6:47:16 PM] Wyzard97: So Tim is BOTH Noah and Moses in his/your world or Universe or Monosong
[6:47:52 PM] Wyzard97: Tim is also Adam and Abraham and even King David and Solomon. Though from there it becomes more historical
[6:48:39 PM] Wyzard97: Your father is those 'characters' too by the way
[6:49:00 PM] Wyzard97: So your lineages can be seen as true, but in a more encompassing 'light'
[6:49:24 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: tony - how you explain these dreams
[6:49:36 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: of me crashing into mirrors; and; them shattering
[6:49:39 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; blades above them
[6:49:56 PM] Wyzard97: Dreams are multiD by n ature and encompass all those archetypical worlds as real energy manifestations
[6:50:13 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, like i am blasting thru a pathway
[6:50:17 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: thru 11d mirrors
[6:50:35 PM] Wyzard97: You are in a process of destroying your own delusions, as well as the delusions of the old worlds
[6:50:52 PM] Wyzard97: The SEA is the cosmic mirror
[6:51:14 PM] Wyzard97: Like the Vatican calls it the Roman See and the City of the Seven Hills
[6:51:33 PM] Wyzard97: This then is nabs hijacked as the Bablonian Whore etc
[6:51:40 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i see the colours like an elevator of sorts
[6:51:55 PM] Wyzard97: But Babylon is the Old Jerusalem the old world including yourself and yours
[6:52:05 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: funny thing
[6:52:16 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: even the honest corporations will fall with the dishonest ones
[6:52:42 PM] Wyzard97: The system is utterly corrupt and beyond repair Susan
[6:53:05 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, it really is
[6:53:14 PM] Wyzard97: All must fall, but in a more subtle way, then the new agers portray and believe
[6:53:19 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: inner circles are already turning on the innermost circles
[6:53:28 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: good ones; and bad ones
[6:53:35 PM] Wyzard97: The cataclysm is Malduk say as a past revisited
[6:53:44 PM] Wyzard97: The second earth is the asteroid belt
[6:54:00 PM] Wyzard97: Hence the 'asteroids' falling see this now?
[6:54:07 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes,
[6:54:14 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; the big one due in 16dec2013
[6:54:28 PM] Wyzard97: It is the symbol of the apocalypse alright, but not cataclysmic in terms of the global civilisation
[6:54:48 PM] Wyzard97: yes ISON is the Kachina of the Hopi
[6:55:06 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, in the light of that day - is a few thuban kachinas
[6:55:24 PM] Wyzard97: The Red Dragon of the apocalypse ENTWINED with the Blue Dragon (Star) of Hope
[6:56:03 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: rok, xeia, raven, james, allisiam, alienne, tony, susan ...
[6:56:13 PM] Wyzard97: So the 'destruction of the old earth' is Tiamat and hence the nabs ideas of the 'wars in the stars'
[6:56:24 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: and; dymaic red + dynamic blue = purple
[6:56:52 PM] Wyzard97: Dolores 'Second or parallel earth' is the same, as is Nibiru, the second sun, planet X as Nemesis and all this nonsense
[6:57:30 PM] Wyzard97: It is what happened in the solar system a long time ago, when it formed, say 5 billion years ago, which has now become the 'parallel world'
[6:58:31 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia's pic on this link and my feedback on this indicates this
[6:59:13 PM] Wyzard97: On this pic, there is Tiamat not yet 'shattered'
[6:59:42 PM] Wyzard97: As a planet between Mars and Jupiter; Mars being the Mirror of the Solar System
[6:59:58 PM] Wyzard97: So your 'shattering dreams' would relate to the Mars nabs
[7:00:41 PM] Wyzard97: Humans on Mars and their cities etc and 'black projects' of 'time travellings through remote viewing glasses' etc.
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[9:35:53 AM-Sunday, March 10th, 2013 -+11UCT]

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Zaina:
Dream on the 4th march ,the sea was rough and grey coloured ,I was getting on a large ship as many people were but as the ship starting sailing through the water i saw many people on little boats and some in rowing boats they looked puzzled as i did to ,as to why i was on this huge ship .that was about all i remember ....

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Jorgelito - Posted Mar 11th 2013

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Mar 11th 2013

The Electra-Oedipus Synthesis Decomplexified
A Template for Alchemical Core Dragonomy in Thuban Cosmogenesis

When a girl is born, who was supposed or wished for to have been a boy; then certain cosmogenetic factors can manifest and use this occurrence to harmonise the universally applicable genome in this particular event of unfulfilled desires and disappointments.
Abraxasinas

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you; if you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.
— Gnostic Gospel of Thomas

What you fear is an indication of what you seek. — Thomas Merton

Zechariah 13:2-4 {King James Version (KJV)}

²And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

³And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.
⁴And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

Matthew 10:34-38

³⁴Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
³⁵For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
³⁶And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
³⁷He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
³⁸And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Matthew 12:46-50

⁴⁶While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
⁴⁷Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
⁴⁸But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
⁴⁹And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
⁵⁰For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Matthew 19:4-6&26-30

⁴And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
⁵And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
⁶Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
.......
²⁶But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
²⁷Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
²⁸And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
²⁹And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
³⁰But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.

Luke 12:52-54

⁵²For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.⁵³The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
⁵⁴And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.

Luke 14:25-27

²⁵And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
²⁶If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
²⁷And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

John 3:3-5

³Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
⁴Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
⁵Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 19:26-28

²⁶When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
²⁷Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
²⁸After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

Gospel of Thomas {Lambdin}

(53) His disciples said to him, "Is circumcision beneficial or not?"
He said to them, "If it were beneficial, their father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become completely profitable."

(54) Jesus said, "Blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of heaven."

55) Jesus said, "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not be worthy of me."

(99) The disciples said to him, "Your brothers and your mother are standing outside."
He said to them, "Those here who do the will of my father are my brothers and my mother. It is they who will enter the kingdom of my father."

(100) They showed Jesus a gold coin and said to him, "Caesar's men demand taxes from us."
He said to them, "Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar, give God what belongs to God, and give me what is mine."

(101) "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not love his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. For my mother [...], but my true mother gave me life."

(102) Jesus said, "Woe to the pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the manger of oxen, for neither does he eat nor does he let the oxen eat."

(103) Jesus said, "Fortunate is the man who knows where the brigands will enter, so that he may get up, muster his domain, and arm himself before they invade."

(104) They said to Jesus, "Come, let us pray today and let us fast."
Jesus said, "What is the sin that I have committed, or wherein have I been defeated? But when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them fast and pray."

(105) Jesus said, "He who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."

(106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will move away."

(107) Jesus said, "The kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. One of them, the largest, went astray. He left the ninety-nine sheep and looked for that one until he found it. When he had gone to such trouble, he said to the sheep, 'I care for you more than the ninety-nine.'"

(108) Jesus said, "He who will drink from my mouth will become like me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed to him."

(109) Jesus said, "The kingdom is like a man who had a hidden treasure in his field without knowing it. And after he died, he left it to his son. The son did not know (about the treasure). He inherited the field and sold it. And the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. He began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished."

(110) Jesus said, "Whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."

(111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. And the one who lives from the living one will not see death." Does not Jesus say, "Whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"

(112) Jesus said, "Woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."

(113) His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"
"It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'here it is' or 'there it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

1 Corinthians 15

¹ Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
²By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
³For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
⁴And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
⁵And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
⁶After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
⁷After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
⁸And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
⁹For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
¹⁰But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
¹¹Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
¹²Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
¹³But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
¹⁴And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
¹⁵Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
¹⁶For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
¹⁷And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
¹⁸Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
¹⁹If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
²⁰But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
²¹For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
²²For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
²³But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.]²⁴Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
²⁵For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
²⁶The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
²⁷For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
²⁸And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
²⁹Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
³⁰And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
³¹I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
³²If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.
³³Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
³⁴Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
³⁵But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
³⁶Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
³⁷And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
³⁸But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
³⁹All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
⁴⁰There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
⁴¹There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
⁴²So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
⁴³It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
⁴⁴It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
⁴⁵And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
⁴⁶Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
⁴⁷The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
⁴⁸As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
⁴⁹And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
⁵⁰Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
⁵¹Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
⁵²In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
⁵³For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
⁵⁴So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
⁵⁵O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
⁵⁶The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
⁵⁷But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
⁵⁸Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Mar 12th 2013

Logos Questions regarding the Bridges towards Contact Continued

[9:35:53 AM-Sunday, March 10th, 2013 -+11UCT]

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00=Begin=Go=24Feb-----12Mar=Come=End=16 as ''Hour of the Beast" in 360 Days/24 Hours=15 Days/1 Hour
25Feb13-07:20UCT-FullMoon Virgo-Pisces Sun-----11Mar13-19:51UCT-NewMoon Pisces-Pisces Sun
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Zaina:
Dream on the 4th march ,the sea was rough and grey coloured ,I was getting on a large ship as many people were but as the ship starting sailing through the water i saw many people on little boats and some in rowing boats they looked puzzled as i did to ,as to why i was on this huge ship .that was about all i remember ....

The Electra-Oedipus Synthesis Decomplexified
A Template for Alchemical Core Dragonomy in Thuban Cosmogenesis

When a girl is born, who was supposed or wished for to have been a boy; then certain cosmogenetic factors can manifest and use this occurrence to harmonise the universally applicable genome in this particular event of unfulfilled desires and disappointments.
Abraxasinas

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you; if you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.
— Gnostic Gospel of Thomas

What you fear is an indication of what you seek. — Thomas Merton

[Tuesday, 12 March 2013 1:39 AM-+11UCT]
Kali 666:
<<< i dreamt i was in the middle of a stage...performing
i was singing and dancing and then all of a sudden a couple of lions came towards me
i'm pretty sure they were lions but female lions and they were really big and looked energetic...
i got bothered at first thinking what are they doing here? that someone had gotten them loose or something...i didn't know where they came from
they were on a sort of mechanical belt where i was supposed to get onto and walk in one direction..they were right on it coming towards me...i pulled a sort of curtain thinking maybe they would hurt me but when they got to me i noticed they didn't
they only wished to lick me and cuddle me
after that i felt a great earthquake sound and i found myself in the outside of a building....and i jumped on a pool
i noticed that i could breathe under water and this time i remembered that this had happened to me before in a previous dream and so i paid more attention and began to do it consciously...i smiled and was happy enjoying myself when all of a sudden i realized i was half naked and there were a few other people there in the water
i decided to wear a yellow and red bikini and it suddenly appeared on me...i looked at myself and liked it a lot and then i wondered if you would like it
it was really small i was barely wearing anything and then as soon as i thought of you you appeared
you also jumped in the pool and i told you what i could do and you tried it too..i was teaching you how to breathe under water, and then i noticed that the sea was coming out or ratehr inland and the waves were coming over the pool...there was a wave that was so super tall like 10 feet that was to crach over us and i stopped it with my mind
i noticed that the water stopped in mid air and so there was only a wall of water there...some of the people around were looking at it with fear and then i slowly made the water come down into the pool without it crashing with great force but gently...
then you wanted to go "home" and so you took me by my hand and hugged me and flew upwards, taking me to one of the upper levels of that building...then we appeared upstairs inside one of the appartment building...it has great windows that made up the entire wall overlooking the ocean
it was rather small but it had some furniture there already that i didn't like, you told me i could change it any way i wanted to and so i did with my mind...then something caught my eye...a shadow
that streamed across the livingroom...and i went towards the window and i sat on the floor next to where you were and i noticed it was a huge blue bird flying
i pointed it out to you and then i positioned myself right behind you and i put both my arms around you and i came really close to your face and i said: look at the color of its wngs...looka at that intense blue color...have you ever seen a color like that?
now notice the sky and everything else...see how brilliantly clear everything is?
then we saw that there were many other types of birds flying about and then you turned and smiled to me and kissed me
omg i loved your kiss
then you told me you had to go out for a while and that i should stay there fixing the place up if i wanted....and so you left and then it was night time and we were supposed to have some guests staying for dinner...
it turned out to be your parents and mine and some other people who i never saw before....so i went to what was once the kitchen and "made" some food appear on some beautiful ceramic bowls that were on the counter and then i pretty much arranged everything else really quickly...and then people started to appear out of thin air
they were sitting down and telling me they were really tired and the first thing i offerd them was some water
only after they drank from my water they felt relieved and refreshed and with energy again..
you came in after a long while and you were really tired but you came right to me to kiss me and then you said you wanted to rest and will go talk to our guests...so you sat with them in the dining table and began to eat with them...
then after dinner you made a screen appear on the wall and you made a circle of pillows appear on the floor....so that everyone would sit in a circle and you said we are to watch what what you were doing while you were out
and so the screen began to show you and what you were doing as if someone was filming you from behind or something and everyone was already sitting in the cirlce of pillows on the floor relaxing and talking about this new life we (all of us) were starting

<<< my mom saw me again in another vision
she said this time i was floating going up in the air
i looked like she had seen me before
in my cat form
but my color was not as blue...but my skin was turning blue as she saw me
i had the same face
yellow eyes
pointy ears
long black hair
but it was really big and sort of electrified or something
as if it was also floating
i didn't have a uniform this time but a white dress on
something like a tunic
and she noticed one of my legs was extended and the other one was flexed as i was moving up
she said i saw her and recognized who she was and smiled at her but continued on my way

[4:02:38 AM] Kali 666: http://intellihub.com/2011/07/17/remote-viewing-the-event-666-days-and-counting/

The following contains a large amount of Nabs in terms of the 'science debunkings' and 'conspiratory speculations', but the general timeline described is aligned with the World Logos. This, the synchronised Logos timeline related to this thread on 'Contact Preparations', is the reason I share it here.
wyzard

Remote Viewing the "Event" – 666 Days and Counting

July 17, 2011 | Filed under: Archives (2010-2013),Featured | Posted by: Shepard
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July 17, 2011

When I was three years old, in the spring of 1955, The Bone Lady came calling on me one fine day and blew my little boy mind wide open. She downloaded so much data into my nodal connections that I could scarcely grok it all – then or now. But especially then, at the age of three.
One of the major take-away messages that she impressed on me was that this dark time of turmoil and trouble into which we have now begun entering was on the way. Over the years I sort of half-thought that maybe it would never arrive, that somehow humanity could avoid the inevitable rendezvous with karmic destiny and grand tour cosmic cycling that bids fair to soon make mincemeat out of so many, in so many ways, in such a comparatively short period of time.

As the years went by I stumbled across the Hopi prophecies that resonate closely with The Bone Lady’s dream stream currency. Then I encountered the Mayan Elders’ teachings about this period of time, that also resonate with The Bone Lady’s message. I pored over the Cayce prophecies and readings, the Nostradamus material, and a great deal of other literature that also warned of carnage and cataclysm at this historical juncture.
In all of this I found a resonance with what The Bone Lady conveyed to me. In short, numerous individuals and groups over a period of many centuries have pointed to this specific historical period as characterized by tremendous upheaval, turmoil, warfare and cataclysm.
You can add Clif High to the list, with his ultra left-brain, digital scrying method that sends webbots out to scour the Internet and sift through reams of verbiage to find the faint psychic signal in the cacophonous din of the polyglot, global conversation.
The interesting thing is that he has a big data gap that rears its head starting in March of 2012, and then grows steadily larger until March of 2013, after which time he essentially cannot find anymore data. It’s as if the Internet – and everything else – change so much sometime in the next 20 months or so that the data stream reflects virtually nothing back after an unknown, near future, threshold event occurs. But what could that be? What does the absence of data in the human information flow after March of 2013 portend?

Courtney Brown, the well-known remote viewer at the Far Sight Institute, and the cohort of remote viewers who collaborate with him, have also detected upheaval and cataclysm in our near future.
http://www.farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html
http://farsightpresentations.com/
http://farsightpresentations.com/index.html Click on web series.

In brief, Courtney Brown’s expert remote viewers find that by June of 2013, less than 2 years from now, the world and the human race abruptly experience massive, cataclysmic events that decisively rupture the present world order, wreaking global havoc on a large scale, precipitously ushering in a vastly different era.
This scenario is consonant with what The Bone Lady showed me, with the Hopi prophecies, with the Mayan teachings, with Nostradamus’ visions, with certain aspects of the Edgar Cayce readings and with the big data gap that Clif High’s webbots have brought back from future language time – beginning in March of 2012 and dwindling away to practically zip, i.e. close to nada, by the middle of March 2013 – after which point a sudden silence descends on this planet.
The global chatter of seven billion voices suddenly hushes and grows virtually silent.

Are you ready for Prime Time? Because it sure does look like the Feature Show is just about to start. The trailers and previews of coming attractions are drawing to a close. After an upcoming, chaotic pause of anywhere from about three to 20 months, beginning most any time now, it looks like this planet and the human race are going to be rocked by –
What??!!
I cannot tell you for sure, but we are all going to find that out. Together, at the same time.
If I could be so bold as to hazard to predict the reaction of the global populace to the Feature Show, I rather suspect that audience reaction will be split right down the middle.
Some will be absolutely horrified, stricken with abject terror to the very depths of their souls (if they even have souls). I mean to say that they will uncontrollably shit and piss their pants like little children who have not been toilet trained, that excrement and urine will run down their legs and puddle in their shoes and they won’t be able to help themselves, there’s not a thing they can do about it, nothing at all, because their total personal life account will suddenly come due, and will be immediately, instantly payable in full, every little criminally gotten farthing and stolen widow’s mite of it, for every last miserable nanosecond of their entire multiencarnational existences. And they will not be able to negotiate with the Lords of Time, because for them Time will have irrevocably and finally expired, for once and for all.
For them there will be no “Time Out.” That Time has come and gone and a new regime is descending on the Earth. That’s the way it looks from my vantage point.
For others, what is coming will represent a time of Glad Tidings and great rejoicing, of release from bondage. It will herald the entry of a new way of living and thinking, a new way of being human on this planet. For them, an oppressive burden will be lifted, they will have the sensation of being freed from irksome yokes and confining collars that for much too long have restrained the free expression of their sacred life potential.

It is this happening that the others fear, no, more than that, it is this happening that the others detest, with every loathsome fiber of their monstrous hollowness. They will therefore struggle violently against its ineluctable onset, for, to be sure, they well understand that it foreshadows their consignment to the fate that they have labored unimaginably long and hard to achieve.
What I mean to say is that the Dark Ones will be hideously violent until their bitter end, at which point they will either flip 180 degrees, fully embrace the light and join the others, or alternatively they will continue to pursue their hollow nothingness all the way to its logical conclusion of utter nullity, and be no more, never to be seen or heard from again, anywhere, ever, for all time and space to come.
That is their stark choice, and I don’t envy them their fate. Nevertheless, that is the decision tree they have created for themselves.
Thus it is that an ineffable watershed Event demarcates the boundary realm as we slip over the galactic frontier into the Age of Aquarius.
If I understand correctly, Courtney Brown seems to want to know how to bring this upcoming Event to people’s attention, including, I gather, to the attention of the global scientific and political elite.
But this is largely to be a fruitless and pointless effort by Courtney, that’s my view. Those who want to know, make it their business to find out what it is they want to know.
This is especially the case when it comes to the mainstream scientific and engineering community, most of whom are stuck in a reductionist, Newtonian, Cartesian, swamp of 19th Century group think. Yes, I know we are in the early years of the 21st Century, but you would never know it by the piffle and fiddle-faddle that emanates from the unimaginative Grand Poobahs of scientific orthodoxy.
As for getting those scientific dinosaurs to accept that there could be a science of future viewing, Karl Popper, the eminent 20th Century philosopher of science, put paid to that notion, when he opined that there can be no predictive science of human history.
Popper’s thought casts a long shadow to this day. As does the work of Thomas Kuhn, who demonstrated that normal science actually vigorously rejects genuinely new knowledge and methods, because they conflict with the prevailing scientific and intellectual paradigm.
So the linear thinking, Newtonion, reductionist, Uniformitarian paradigm will not willingly give way. It will cede ground to no pretenders, challengers or alternative views. If it permitted other ways of knowledge and doing science then it wouldn’t be Newtonian, or reductionist or Uniformitarian.

Will flogging a dead horse prevent its putrid corpse from rotting? Clearly not.
Note to Courtney: Put your findings out there, and let the chips fall where they may.
The intellectual establishment doesn’t care about you or remote viewing and you won’t get their blessing. Don’t wait for the approval or the O.K. of mentally constipated, (so-called) “scientific authorities” who need a brain enema in the worst sort of way.
Take your agenda directly to the street. Remote view with your very best remote viewers the following events and release the data directly to the Internet ASAP, and then you and they can go on as many radio shows and Internet forums as possible to discuss the results.
I’m thinking of places like:

Jeff Rense
The Intellihub
Signs of the Times
Webbot Forum
George Ure’s Urban Survival
Mel Fabregas’ Veritas Show
Red Ice Radio
Coast To Coast AM
Godlike Productions
Wayne Madsen Report
RT.com

… and as many more as possible. Do a massive date dump, to as many sites as possible simultaneously. Know any digital geeks, who could creatively spread your results far and wide in cyber space? Think outside the box. You’re already well outside of it, so swing for the fence. It’s home run derby Time. This is the Time you have been waiting for. If not now, when? If not this year, then next year may be too late.
Here’s what you should unflinchingly remote view and then fearlessly put out there – anonymously, far and worldwide. Cause a public SPECTACLE that cannot be shut up.

Your Quantum Event Altering Remote Viewing Data Dump:
1: The major actors behind the assassination of President Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy. Martin Luther King, Jr.
2: The hidden hands behind the World Trade Center and Pentagon 9/11 attacks.
3: The truth behind the many secret underground and undersea bases on the Earth.
4: What is being done in the sprawling subterranean labyrinths deep beneath Washington, DC and Camp David.
5: The true extent of the secret space program(s) and the technologies in the Black Budget world.
6: Tell us about the bases on the Moon and Mars.
7: Tell us what is inside the Moon. Beings? Machinery? Artificial Intelligence? Cities? Another civilization?
8: Describe what is beneath the Giza Plateau and what lies inside the secret chambers of the Great Pyramid.
9: Why all the secrecy about the Antarctic? Tell us what the National Science Foundation and the USA Navy are covering up. Dimensional portals? Flux in the time-space continuum? Evidence of previous high civilization in pre-ice Antarctica? Extraterrestrial bases? Something else?

10: What are the extraterrestrial species visiting the Earth, what are they doing, how many of them are there?
11: Is the USA government in league with darkly, malevolent, Satanic, off-planet species? The same goes for the European Union, the government of the Jewish State, aka, Israel, and the Roman Catholic Hierarchy, aka, The Vatican.
12: How far has cloning technology gone? How many prominent public figures on the global scene are in effect biological robots, even outright programmed clones that appear to be natural human beings, but who are not?
13: Barack Obama has very prominent, large scars on his head, looking like he has had major brain surgery. Has he? Has his mind been surgically altered and programmed by the CIA or some other agency?
14: Describe the power behind the criminal banking cartel known as the U.S. Federal Reserve bank.
15: Describe the origin of the Moon. How and when did it come into orbit around the Earth? Is it artificially engineered, in part or substantial whole?

And think of other, similar, paradigm-busting questions.
The time for hand-wringing is over. The ethical portion of the remote viewing community that hasn’t spread wide the lobes of their brains’ “hemi”-spheres and sold their souls to the CIA, NSA, Army Intelligence, ONI, DIA, Mossad, MAD, BND, La Piscine, the Fortune 500, etc. has to find the courage of its convictions and soon. Forget about career security, or retirement, or free dental plans.
You’ve seen what’s coming. None of what so many have grown accustomed to as the perks of working for a government agency will be there, none of that will matter, so why not lay it all on the line now, just for the sheer Heaven of doing so? Maybe with a sudden outburst of global truth telling some of the direst doom and gloom can yet be avoided.
We are at 666 days and counting, give or take, and that does seem like an ominous interval, though it need not be so, unless we dither and do nothing substantive or meaningful in the interim.

My quibble is not with the mental technique of remote viewing per se – it is after all but a type of siddhi, a power that comes with practice of a certain yogic type of discipline, of calming and focusing the mind. There is however an issue with the omerta-like code of silence that the military, espionage and industrial remote viewers have. Their loyalties have been bought, or co-opted. As a guild they are very secretive, stealthy, compartmentalized.
This does not alter the fact that they do nevertheless have a deep obligation to speak out, due to the fact that the knowledge they have is truly the commonwealth, the collective patrimony of humanity, as it applies to our common plight together on this planet. We deserve to know.
Why not do some creatively nonviolent truth telling, along the lines of what I lay out in my recent webbot forum interview?
Three times in my life, beginning in the early 1980s, I have gone out on nuclear missile silos in Arkansas, Missouri and most recently in North Dakota, where I staged nonviolent peace demonstrations – repeatedly risking personal safety, including the possibility of being shot by military security personnel, certain arrest, criminal trial and conviction, the dangers of more than a year and a half of incarceration in a dozen different jails and prisons, the burden of living life with a so-called “criminal” record, loss of personal property and losing untold tens of thousands of dollars in foregone earnings, all while enduring public ridicule and scorn from many of my barely conscious fellow “humans,” as well as other diverse threats of various sorts, USA government surveillance, and much more.
And still I did it. Again and again. At great personal cost, because the stakes for us all are so enormously high. The destiny of the Earth and the human race are on the line. Everything hangs in the balance. I was willing to make a very high stakes wager, with my life, my freedom, and my prosperity because so much depended on my acting, or not acting.

Why can’t the guild of remote viewers show the same mettle, and throw caution to the wind?
So what could “The Event” be? Who knows.

It does occur to me that maybe we have been shrouded in a vast time cloak for a very long time and the time cloak is getting ready to be ripped away – leaving us in a “time” that will take some “time” to get used to.
But I can’t say for sure. No one can! So I’m like Courtney Brown. Check with me again in about 2 years.
Could such a Time Veil or Time Cloak exist for an entire planet? Yeah, maybe so. Could tugging on loose threads to the time-space continuum in secret government underground laboratories start a process that leads to abrupt unraveling of the time-space continuum as we have known it for seeming thousands of years, bringing on a sudden, world-wide, “Doh!!” moment where the totality of the human race is stunned into an enormous simultaneous silence by the total Mind-Frakking- High-Strangeness-Of-It-All as we see naked reality clearly, without an artificial veil, maybe for the first time in aeons of externally applied amnesiac forgetfulness, ignorance and genetically dumbed down blindness to cosmic reality.
Could that cause an abrupt watershed moment in the human sojourn on this planet and power torque humanity into an entirely new space, mentally and in every other inconceivable way?

First Demonstration of Time Cloaking
Read the article and imagine what might be possible for an interstellar civilization with a more sophisticated technological base. If you scale the technology up could you create a Time Cloak that would effectively quarantine an entire planet and seal it off from the rest of the galaxy in its own hidden space-time compartment? Just give it its own, independently generated, local time-space coordinates and set it to spinning like a top for hundreds of thousands or millions of years, like a private prison planet, or water-planet torture palace where anything goes and no one hears the screams?
What if?

And what happens when that Time sealed compartmentalization unzips?
You see, what the prison planet wardens want to stifle more than anything, is the World of Unfettered Imagination, because they know that when Sleeping Beauty awakens that there will be Heaven To Pay.

Does anyone else like Handel? How about a little Xerxes?
Please visit Richard Sauder’s Blog HERE

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[5:04:37 AM] Wyzard97: The following contains a large amount of Nabs in terms of the 'science debunkings' and 'conspiratory speculations', but the general timeline described is aligned with the World Logos. This, the synchronised Logos timeline related to this thread on 'Contact Preparations', is the reason I share it here.

wyzard

[5:04:49 AM-Wednesday, March 13th, 2013 -+11UCT]
Wyzard97: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=BDB3F1DE-78FA-4432-8DE8-567D1E8AF6BB
[5:06:33 AM] Wyzard97: I am seeing Richard later on today. No news regarding Adam. Xeia your dreams relate to the New Moon in Pisces
[5:07:20 AM] Wyzard97: March 11th, 2013 at 19:51 UCT, which is March 11th at 14:51 your time
[5:07:39 AM] Kali 666: oh good luck with him Tony
[5:07:54 AM] Kali 666: hope he's doing better under the circumstances
[5:07:57 AM] Wyzard97: Richard is said to be doing ok and is in healing mode
[5:08:35 AM] Wyzard97: Your dream relates to you as the New Juliet with Rok the New Romeo
[5:08:49 AM] Wyzard97: Raven would be able to explain this chart better
[5:08:53 AM] Wyzard97: It is on heaven too
[5:09:53 AM] Kali 666: ok great
[5:10:47 AM] Wyzard97: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t232p15-the-constitution-of-the-new-cosmos-in-dragon-law-and-jurisprudence
[5:11:17 AM] Wyzard97: However I did not put your dream there, only on spruz at the link above
[5:11:48 AM] Wyzard97: All DQBees are the New Eve and have now assimilated the JCCJ AbbaBaab template
[5:11:57 AM] Wyzard97: It activated March 11th-12th
[5:12:14 AM] Wyzard97: This is why Olga came in your dream
[5:12:29 AM] Wyzard97: She is of course your Biomother2 in the chart
[5:12:46 AM] Wyzard97: Sue is Raven's biomother2
[5:12:57 AM] Wyzard97: Rok's mother is Biomother1
[5:13:39 AM] Wyzard97: The living are the Biomothers/fathers and the dead become the universals as the cosmics and ETs etc
[5:14:33 AM] Wyzard97: "Deborah Christ daughter" is everyones 'unborn' or dead or aborted 'cosmic daughter'
[5:15:34 AM] Wyzard97: So starbabies are all 'christened', both boys as Sons of Man and girls as Daughters of Women
[5:17:35 AM] Kali 666: Tony do you remember of that event that i talked about before of a sign in the sky?
[5:17:47 AM] Wyzard97: Not in detail
[5:18:04 AM] Kali 666: the warning of Garabandal and also of what the remote viewers said they saw?
[5:18:05 AM] Kali 666: well
[5:18:19 AM] Wyzard97: I read your remote viewing link, which is utter Nabs, but has the timeline right
[5:18:23 AM] Kali 666: they're all talking about the same event
[5:18:41 AM] Wyzard97: Yes, but they are seeing the metaphysics not actual physics
[5:18:48 AM] Wyzard97: meme wars
[5:19:01 AM] Kali 666:
http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2013/03/pat-supernova-christian-pentacostal-miracle-prophesying-descent-holy-spirit-christed-source-energy-human-flesh/
[5:19:12 AM] Kali 666: now he is talking about it too
[5:19:21 AM] Kali 666: http://quantumodyssey.squarespace.com/blog/2013/3/5/march-2013-the-next-great-event-in-the-awakening.html

March 2013 The Next Great Event in The Awakening!
Mindy Mitchell

Hello Everyone!
I conducted a research project using QHH to obtain more clarity for humanity regarding The Shift and all it entails. My focus was what we would be experiencing and how to prepare ourselves mentally, physically and spiritually. The information brought forth was truly enlightening especially regarding what the electronic/wireless environments are doing to us!
The book is called Quantum Odyssey by Mindy Mitchell and is available as an ebook at Www.Booktango.com and at Www.Amazon.com. The following is an excerpt from my book regarding the next possible upcoming event of The Awakening.
I wanted to be sure and share this information with everyone as this stated event is to occur this March 2013! I look forward to sharing our collective experience of this event as it unfolds over the next few months and how it unfolds for each and everyone of us.
As I tell all of my QHH clients, there is no wrong way to have an experience. Each of us are here on our own journey and as such will have a variety of experiences and responses to our lives on Earth. Not all will be aware to the same thing at the same time. Some will recognize change immediately, others slowly but surely, some not at all.
Below is a segment from an actual Quantum Healing Hypnosis session (QHH) where I explored using QHH as a research tool to go forward into time and ask many of the hot topics that are circulating regarding the new millennium we are moving into and the New Earth..The Ascension...The Shift...The Awakening.
I don't believe that there is any one truth or reality out there as I believe that the truth and reality exists as a multi-faceted gem. Each facet of the gem provides a different perspective, different from all the other facets. None being more real or greater than the other. We each will experience our reality and truths through different facets of perception.
The more we open ourselves to experiencing a different reality than we have been conditioned to, the more likely we are to evolve and awaken to a New Earth!
The world was absolutely flat for centuries. Until it wasn't......
Remember...keep all THREE eyes open!

M represents me Mindy and E is Ellen the subject.
E: I see a like a moment in time. The only thing I can describe it like…it is like when you flip the switch and the lights go on. There is this incredible blue light! So soft… I see color of blue light and when this light switch goes on the light expands... It is so beautiful! Throughout the whole universe and it’s the coming together of one mind! It so unbelievable!
M: Is this a happening at this time or a future event?
E: It is a future event...and it’s going to happen. The only thing I can think of is a scripture that says "…in the twinkling of an eye" and it’s so amazing!!!! (Spoken with absolute wonder and awe)
M: Is there an earth time when this event will be taking place?
E: It is soon...it’s now...it feels now...like now. It’s melting... it doesn’t feel far away.
M: Is this "The Shift" "The Awakening" that’s coming?
E: Yes! It’s all minds coming to together in a split second! It’s so bizarre!
M: Will that event take place on our calendar year of 12-21-12?
E: March 2013
M: When you say ALL minds…Will all human beings experience the same thing or will there be individuals who are unaware of this event?
E: This is so wild! (Experiencing extreme visual and sensory downloads)
Everyone will know. Not everyone will care.
M: Does this correlate with the event known as the second coming of Christ?
E: Yes!
Holy sh**! (…experiencing huge waves of energy and emotion) I wish you could feel what I feel right now!
M: Describe what you are experiencing right now!
E: Gasping. Holy cow. Gasping...oh my god oh my god oh my god! I can’t describe it...it’s like a download where you are all tingly on the outside but this is on the inside...oh my god! Oh geez! The light is amazing!
M: Is this light what you are experiencing or is it something else?
E: Yes, it’s the light! It’s like...it’s like...I have never seen anything like it! So crazy!
M: So is this second coming of Christ actually the Christ "consciousness" coming back onto the planet?
E: And it’s been building and building. But it’s like it going to...the minds unite! It’s like a moment in time for all of us that have been waiting...Our minds are united!
M: What is the outcome of that when all the minds unite? What does that produce or create?
E: Clarity. Oh geez... it’s like waking up from a dream. The words that are coming up for me is, the ILLUSION is gone! Oh my god its wild!
M: That is very exciting!
E: It affects everybody but there are those still in the illusion and those out of it. It like there’s two groups of people.
M: Is there anything that defines those who are still in the illusion? Any reason why there are those choosing to stay in the illusion? The reason they have created that reality for themselves?
E: Fear.
M: Is that fear of change or fear anything new? What is that fear of?
E: Fear of knowing!
M: What is it that they don't want to know?
E: That it is ALL an illusion.
M: Are these the people that hold on to the illusion of separateness and hierarchies and power structures?
E: Its attachment to the illusion! (with wonder)… they believe that they are a part of what they see! It’s like a hologram. So wild! They can't see the light; they can't connect because they believe they are the illusion. They believe themselves to be what they are...but that’s not it! It’s like I believe I am a monkey so I appear as a monkey! OH geezzzz!
M: For those that can experience the light and experience this awakening, what is it that they believe? What is it that allows them to see the light and participate and be transformed?
E: They believe. This is sooo weird. They believe that they are not important! Ha...wow! It’s like when you see fish swim together and birds fly together, they all become one yet they are separate. They are individual but one is not more important than the other!... Here comes another wave!
M: I just had a flash of something I have always heard but didn’t understand...Is this what is meant by "the meek shall inherit the Earth"?!!
E: Yes!!
Oh god...ooooooh...(more huge waves of energy are pulsing through her!) Oh my god I wish you could feel this! It’s like being on a rollercoaster...its sooooo beautiful! I feel so humble (sobbing and tears)
M: So those that don’t experience this are attached to the ego-self? Their importance in the material realm? Those who define themselves and others by the material world? What their car makes them, what their mansions make them, what their bank account makes them?
E: Yes, Yes! But they could also be a poor person who still thinks they are important, it’s not just the rich, and it’s everybody! Everybody who thinks they are more important...It’s a mindset!
M: So anybody who thinks they are more important than their fellow human beings?
E: Yes!
M: Ah ha! That’s powerful, so profound!
M: What else do we need to share with humanity and the average person who maybe reading this. About this event?
E: It’s so weird... it’s "know thy self-know thy neighbor" "know thy self, know thy neighbor". When you know yourself you can truly know your neighbor. But if you are afraid of yourself and don't know yourself, how can you know your neighbor? How can you put yourself in your neighbors shoes of you don’t even know yourself? Each person is important. They are important but not more important than the other. That’s how we are part of the one.
M: What is the time frame for when this uniting of one mind will take place?
E: March 2013. It’s a big month!
M: That is interesting because that somewhat correlates with Hopi prophecy of in this time frame we are in now we will be a door will be opening from the 4th world which we are currently to the 5th world. Is that the door that is opening into the 5th world, also known as the 5th dimension?
E: Yes...oh here come the waves again!
The waves she experienced equaled validation of absolute truth!

[5:19:52 AM] Wyzard97: Yes again it relates to the real Logos and just like the Papal Conclave now under way and finished by March 15th as the 'Ides of Caesar'
[5:20:03 AM] Wyzard97: Stankov is Nabs
[5:20:09 AM] Wyzard97: quasi science
[5:20:25 AM] Wyzard97: But they tuned into the correct timeline, most of them
[5:20:40 AM] Wyzard97: The energies are INTENSE and all water related - Piscean
[5:21:13 AM] Kali 666: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/02/no-kidding-march-2013-the-new-12-21-2012-25-events-to-watch-2565128.html
[5:22:11 AM] Wyzard97: The Mayans knew this from the solstice date see and now the New Agers are 'feeling' the energy shifts and construct their Nabs from their 'intuitions'
[5:22:42 AM] Wyzard97: We have known this for some time from the timeline charts. It is just noone can read them
[5:23:22 AM] Wyzard97: The month from February 25th to March 27th is the 'Devil's Last Hurrah'
[5:27:07 AM] Kali 666: what is it Web Bot? senses a "silence" after March 21st
[5:28:35 AM] Wyzard97: Clif High's stuff. Ok to a degree, but Nabs and a scam overall
[5:29:01 AM] Kali 666: btw i don't consider remote viewing bullshit
[5:29:25 AM] Wyzard97: The Real Armageddon must map the encoded 'Captivity of Babylon', historically dated from 608BC to 538BC, Xeia
[5:29:46 AM] Wyzard97: These are 70 years, which will end on March 25th, 2013
[5:29:59 AM] Kali 666: this is tribulation right here i know that
[5:30:17 AM] Wyzard97: Then 7 days later is the 'resurrection-Rebirth Sunday' of Easter 2013
[5:30:31 AM] Wyzard97: No I am not implying that
[5:30:46 AM] Wyzard97: But Courtney Brown has an antiLogos agenda
[5:31:16 AM] Wyzard97: And there are NO human bases on Mars. There might be on the Moon
[5:32:00 AM] Kali 666: yeah i'm sure they would have to mix in a lot of stuff
[5:32:06 AM] Kali 666: i mean what they don't know about
[5:32:08 AM] Wyzard97: Yes tribulation is the Armageddon, which started January 14th, 2013
[5:32:23 AM] Kali 666: still, i am interested in what fits..
[5:32:38 AM] Kali 666: what synchronizes
[5:32:54 AM] Wyzard97: The ET science is NOT yet available to whatever faction on the earth Sui
[5:33:11 AM] Kali 666: oh and i began to listen to this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eRivtKcLqek#t=4909s

but i didn't like it when he called the three days of darkness 3 eclipses...
[5:33:39 AM] Kali 666: i stopped then
[5:34:01 AM] Kali 666: but it caught my eye all those 3 1/2 dates
[5:37:01 AM] Wyzard97: Yes many nabsers have tuned into the Logos energy stream. This is also related to the 7 'planetary stellum' in Pisces at the present time
[5:37:24 AM] Wyzard97: But dont 'believe' their conclusions of HOW things might change
[5:38:44 AM] Kali 666: Jesus ressurected
[5:38:47 AM] Kali 666: i do believe
[5:39:02 AM] Kali 666: if he changed....why can't we?
[5:40:21 AM] Wyzard97: We can and I said this in 1 Corinthians 15 with the 'Twinkling of an Eye' body change. But this could mean the metaphysical law before any actual physical possibilities again.
[5:41:11 AM] Kali 666: i think the physical simply follows the metaphysical
[5:41:37 AM] Kali 666: and things have been happening for some time now
[5:41:41 AM] Wyzard97: I am sure the 'changes' are happening in the metaphysics. But how rapid or slowly this can manifest in 4D now is still an open question to me and any rational assessment
[5:41:49 AM] Wyzard97: Yes this is true

[5:47:53 AM] Kali 666: there is a giant eagle flying outside my house
[3/6/2013 3:10:02 PM] Rok: there are eagels in florida?
[3/6/2013 3:10:25 PM] Xeia: at least i think it is an eagle
[3/6/2013 3:10:31 PM] Xeia: its wingspan is huge
[3/6/2013 3:10:41 PM] Xeia: it's so beautiful
[3/6/2013 3:10:58 PM] Xeia: i ran outside to take a picture of it but i couldn't see where it went

[5:48:02 AM] Kali 666:

Exodus 19 King James Version (KJV)
19 In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.
2 For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to the desert of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness; and there Israel camped before the mount.
3 And Moses went up unto God, and the Lord called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.

[5:48:19 AM] Wyzard97: Daniel is the appropriate scripture code as the forerunner of Revelation, yes, but the 3½ relate to time cycles as time+times+half a time and so are multivalued as days and weeks and months or whatever cycles are encoded
[5:48:58 AM] Wyzard97: The Eagle's Wings are Ezekiel 17. Read this one for a connection

[5:48:19 AM | Edited 5:49:45 AM] Wyzard97: Daniel is the appropriate scripture code as the forerunner of Revelation, yes, but the 3½ relate to time cycles as time+times+half a time and so are multivalued as days and weeks and months or whatever cycles are encoded
[5:48:58 AM] Wyzard97: The Eagle's Wings are Ezekiel 17. Read this one for a connection
[5:56:40 AM] Kali 666:

Revelation 12
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[5:57:15 AM] Kali 666: Tony can you help me understand this?
[5:57:19 AM] Kali 666: what does it mean?
[5:58:00 AM] Wyzard97: It relates to the 3½ as the halving of the 7
[5:58:31 AM] Wyzard97: In Revelation 13 then the 'beast' is allowed to continue for 42 months, which are 3½ years
[5:58:51 AM] Wyzard97: This is what the Add-chart describes in thorough detail
[5:59:25 AM] Wyzard97: The Earth 'swalloing the flood' is Gaia as the Baab for Mary say
[6:00:01 AM] Wyzard97: Mary is the ambassadora for Gaia, just as Gaia is the ambassadoro for the entire creation/universe
[6:00:20 AM] Wyzard97: It means that the 'flood' cannot 'touch' or destroy the Descended Mother
[6:00:25 AM] Wyzard97: The Eagle is John
[6:00:33 AM] Kali 666: why does it say that bout the dragon?
[6:01:17 AM] Wyzard97: There are two, a red one, said to be the 'enemy in heaven' and a blue one (say the Hopi's Kachina' 'Star of Hope'
[6:01:24 AM] Wyzard97: They MUST 'fall together'
[6:02:07 AM] Wyzard97: So the 'Second Coming' is encoded as two dragon in state-antistate as Red and Skyblue neutralise each other
[6:02:24 AM] Wyzard97: So Red Dragon means antichrist and Blue Dragon means Christ
[6:02:40 AM] Kali 666: i see
[6:03:03 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and they BOTH descend ONTO the Earth as a Cocoon or Cosmic Ovum/Egg
[6:03:16 AM] Wyzard97: This is the Hill Sphere technically of Thuban 101
[6:03:47 AM] Wyzard97: So you have a double entwined dragon around the earth since June 2008 to be more precise
[6:04:07 AM] Wyzard97: I described all this many times
[6:04:36 AM] Wyzard97: The Dragon in this code is the antiLogos energy in all their manifestations
[6:04:50 AM] Wyzard97: Many of which we have direct contact with and had
[6:05:31 AM] Wyzard97: They MUST be together, just like hot and cold or above and below or mind and body in polarisations
[6:05:59 AM] Kali 666: indeed
[6:06:26 AM] Wyzard97: They are the motto of the 'Unmovable object meeting the Irresistable Force'. So because they cannot evade each other, they MUST Blend and merge as One
[6:06:32 AM] Kali 666: was it debra who said she refused the notion that God has a place saved for her in the wilderness?
[6:06:58 AM] Wyzard97: In some words like this yes
[6:07:15 AM] Wyzard97: DD's problem is now solved because of her dead father
[6:07:33 AM] Kali 666: how so?
[6:07:45 AM] Wyzard97: He manifested and 'chucked yaldabaoth' as her self deluded mindset
[6:08:00 AM] Wyzard97: This was the March 11-12 descent
[6:08:30 AM] Wyzard97: Remember over a year ago, I described 'making peace with the yaldebaoth' antistate?
[6:08:50 AM] Wyzard97: I know now what this was on September 18-21, 2011, when I had a gnosis event
[6:09:24 AM] Wyzard97: This was DD's father not yet revealed as the Cosmic Abba-Joseph template
[6:09:58 AM] Wyzard97: Because it is now revealed as a real human being/soul - yaldebaoth had to vanish
[6:10:05 AM] Wyzard97: It is as simple as that
[6:10:21 AM] Wyzard97: The 'Great revealing' means the end of the mystery
[6:10:46 AM] Kali 666: wow
[6:10:53 AM] Wyzard97: This is cosmic of course, but as a template it must first be individualised and this is or was the Thuban agency
[6:10:56 AM] Kali 666: i remember the picture Raven posted on Mists
[6:11:02 AM] Kali 666: ugly fellow
[6:11:07 AM] Wyzard97: Oh yes and Debbie is manifested too
[6:12:35 AM] Wyzard97: The Dead Daughter RETURNS to from where she came see, as the X-chromosome of the father and the dead father returns to his own creation as his own daughter he made with his X-sex chromosome
[6:13:07 AM] Wyzard97: This is beautiful cosmology fulfilling many scriptures and you see this as the Electra Complex in psychology
[6:13:32 AM] Wyzard97: The Father has 'unlawful sex' with his daughter
[6:14:04 AM] Wyzard97: But I am not sure the world is ready yet to digest the details of this cosmic reconfiguration
[6:14:12 AM] Wyzard97: I hinted at it in the edited chart
[6:15:09 AM] Kali 666: oh btw in my dream, while i was preparing the food for the dinner we were going to have, in the screen on the wall we could see Rok helping set the world on fire
[6:15:40 AM] Kali 666: we were to sit in a circle over some pillows on teh floor
[6:15:44 AM] Kali 666: and watch this
[6:15:45 AM] Wyzard97: Yes this is the Aries Equinox of March 20th to April 21st then
[6:16:09 AM] Kali 666: hmm...
[6:19:38 AM] Wyzard97: The Pisces New Moon of March 11th officially ended the 2012 season Xeia
[6:20:01 AM] Wyzard97: As the Pisces Moon is the last moon in the equinox year
[6:20:34 AM] Kali 666: i began my moon yesterday the 11th
[6:20:50 AM] Wyzard97: So the last quarter or season as Winter 2012/2013 in the Northern hemisphere is the crucial transition time from the Mayan end date
[6:21:06 AM] Wyzard97: This is why so many nabsers now get things more right, than before
[6:21:31 AM] Wyzard97: Very fitting as a New Eve DQBee Sui
[6:22:06 AM] Wyzard97: December 21st, 2012 to March 20th, 2013
[6:22:39 AM] Wyzard97: The next 'Full Moon' will be a Libra Moon in the Aries Sun on March 27th
[6:23:03 AM] Wyzard97: Libra means Cosmic Balance and Harmony
[6:23:27 AM] Kali 666: hopefully that will remain forever
[6:23:37 AM] Wyzard97: The very difficult metaphysical 'law making' year of 2012 will be under new auspices
[6:23:56 AM] Wyzard97: It means the Logos words are 'FULFILLED'
[6:24:29 AM] Wyzard97: From then on, physical changes can indeed and will manifest in the lowerD linearity time chronos
Kali 666
[6:26:36 AM | Edited 6:26:39 AM] Kali 666: so that means now
[6:28:48 AM] Wyzard97: The Wings of Maria and Solomon's Song !

The Wings of Maria and Solomon's Song !

A new day is breaking across the plains of the desert, Maria's golden dawn to greet;

like a lush green meadow, Bathsheba is awaiting the dewdrops, deliciously sweet.

It's Solomon's flowery nectar, growing in a valley of memories forgotten for so long;

where a beautiful song is playing, birthing a new world for our sweet Maria to belong.

Out in the dry desert, a caravan of camels paces steadily towards its vermilion oasis;

a mighty rock, telling its tales of old, when wisdom still was found in hidden places.

Baiame, the serpent's rainbow is arching across a glorious sky, shining in hues azure;

and there's Maria, a flower from the desert with her love to share so gently and demure.

Merlin, the crimson dingo has come to the great meet, with stories of a redrosy sky;

so many desertdwellers to share in adventures, hearing a majestic eagle's eerie cry.

Amidst the gathering is our queen, dancing to the mother's calling, love's own tune;

What a celebration at the edge of nowhere, this wedding betwixt the sun and the moon.

Jonathan, the emu has arrived with a message about Maria from the heavens above;

the dragon's friends are found all about, guided in the peace of the snowwhite dove.

There is Toby, the alabaster unicorn, pacing for Maria's mounting and to elope away;

into a realm of lofty mountains, where the regal eagle's loveplay always holds sway.
The Wings of Maria and Solomon's Song !

Excalibur, the sword of truth has broken forth to swiftly rent the veils holding asunder;

a mighty tempest sweeps across a forlorn land, a world shaken in lightning and thunder.
Maria's dreams of love and sublime desires, all have sprouted upon Pegasusian wings;

from the heights of peaky treetops and of oaken branches, where the nightingale sings.

You pretty pink flamingo, wading by across the shores of longings, bubbling all adrift;

if you'd just fathom the inner essence of your glory, your ecstacy would come so swift.

Upon the wings of Solomon, you shall find the Dragon's daughter's passage to be free;

oh sweet remembrance of the days of old, Maria of Jerusalem has found her lost key.

The name of the Mother's poem is your own; your courting troubadour so fit to see;

a dawning of love's joy in all is splendour, so devoted and wondrously in wait for thee!

{Composed by the tripartite One: Logan Antico of Arndale; Robert Sceptico of Jones and Tony WhyNot}

The Papal Conclave, presently undertaken means 'Fitting the Key (of Jesus' kingdom of the father)'

[6:35:51 AM] Wyzard97: In the poem above, Maria of Jerusalem is none but the Cosmic femmeness of a DQBee
[6:36:09 AM] Wyzard97: The Universal Maria Infinity as the Christ Mother
[6:36:37 AM] Wyzard97: The one of the scriptures becoming a manyness for the ones who can core with their Josephs
[6:37:52 AM] Kali 666: (makeup)
[6:37:56 AM] Wyzard97: All New Eves are MI's both in BodyMind and in MindBody, so allowing the cosmic alchemical twinships of the double Dragon entwinements to manifest as the blending of heaven with hell/earth and so on
[6:38:48 AM] Wyzard97: This solves the Chicken-Egg quantum paradox on the genetic and sexchromosomatic level and renders the old darkness as the entwined partner of the old light
[6:43:08 AM] *** Kali 666 sent DSCN0656.JPG ***

[6:44:22 AM] Wyzard97: Nice, but I must go now to prepare for my hospital visit Ciao and take care
[6:44:48 AM] Kali 666: Xau Tony
[6:45:18 AM] Kali 666: godspeed!
[6:45:31 AM] Kali 666: (*)
Kali 666
[3:59 AM -Wednesday, March 13th, 2013 -+11UCT]
Sirius 17:

<<< i had a strange dream this morning of my grandfather. we were all in my mothers house and my grandfather was back, we were celebrating a reunion. Strangely we all knew he had died but it was like he was back from the dead. One of his friends or a group of his friends i am not sure, had purchased a ticket for him to fly a B-17 plane again. The certificate sat upon my mothers old hutch and it had his name on it and then wording from a woman named Margaret..."If I should die then this gets passed onto......." in honor of Fred Nudell and then his air force title on it. I remember looking at the certificate thinking what a nice thing his friends had done for him....that when he came back he could fly again. And suddenly I realised my grandfather was back from the dead to recieve this present. I woke up after this.
I have not dreamed of my grandfather ever that i can remember....
My grandfather never flew actually, he was an airplane mechanic, but my grandmother did fly for the civil air patrol....strange dream anyhow

[12:06:41 PM] Sirius 17: i also had a dream but i guess you didn't see it
[12:06:59 PM] Sirius 17: i hope your visit with Richard was nice, let me know how it went
[12:16:44 PM] Sirius 17: i am in the middle of finals week now and so things are pretty intense. I will take my last test on monday. I have a test Thursday for Anatomy and one Friday for this bio ethics class. I am here on skype if you want to talk though, it seems no one does lately. I miss you a lot but I understand your situation. Seems Xeia and Rok prefer to talk among themselves then to me much....kind of lonely for me without you.
[2:57:52 PM] Wyzard97: No didn't see this. It goes with Xeia's which I saved
[2:58:05 PM] Wyzard97: Just came back from the hospital
[2:58:34 PM] Sirius 17: hey sweety, how did it go?
[2:58:39 PM] Wyzard97: Richard is doing ok. He is fluent mentally now and we talked stuff
[2:58:52 PM] Wyzard97: When did you have this dream?
[2:59:08 PM] Sirius 17: this morning just before i woke up
[2:59:23 PM] Wyzard97: March 12th
[2:59:29 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[2:59:42 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is the Logos marker March11-12
[2:59:55 PM] Wyzard97: It is 3 pm 13th here
[3:00:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes your ahead of me lol
[3:00:27 PM] Wyzard97: yes this dream is the chart of the Romeo-Juliet
[3:00:36 PM] Wyzard97: You read the convo with Xeia?
[3:00:41 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i did
[3:01:09 PM] Wyzard97: I added her links and some things about March on spruz
[3:01:32 PM] Sirius 17: i haven't even checked the news today yet, did they pick a pope yet?
[3:01:41 PM] Wyzard97: black smoke lol
[3:01:45 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[3:01:54 PM] Sirius 17: good well we got the white smoke
[3:01:59 PM] Wyzard97: the white smoke was February 21st
[3:02:16 PM] Wyzard97: mindblend
[3:02:20 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[3:02:38 PM] Sirius 17: so how is Helen have you heard from her, i forgot to ask you
[3:02:49 PM] Wyzard97: Look at this last post on coversations and you will see the connects
[3:03:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw the new chart and the updated add as well
[3:03:18 PM] Wyzard97: No last time I spoke to her mum, she was days away of returning to this country town
[3:03:39 PM] Wyzard97: But now 'in the system' for rehab, so this should work out ok
[3:03:50 PM] Sirius 17: oh that is good
[3:04:01 PM] Sirius 17: i hope she can still come visit you sometimes
[3:04:17 PM] Sirius 17: sounds like things are looking up a bit for her though anyhow
[3:04:23 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[3:04:39 PM] Wyzard97: But you are right, we need a femme here
[3:04:50 PM] Wyzard97: 4 guys and a cat and a dog all males
[3:05:05 PM] Sirius 17: i got my hep b vaccine today and Tdap, they titered me for mMr and chicken pox
[3:05:30 PM] Wyzard97: Well Richard is likely to be in nthere for another 2 months or 3 and then comes here
[3:05:44 PM] Wyzard97: Adam I dont know, I check Friday
[3:05:52 PM] Wyzard97: David is here atm
[3:05:54 PM] Sirius 17: oh yeah i agree you do, i was going to ask you what is going on with Debbie, I felt her really strong on that one photograph....maybe she brings a femme your way
[3:06:22 PM] Wyzard97: Debbie is in me now as per this chart
[3:06:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes i figured
[3:06:55 PM] Wyzard97: March 11-12 manifested the JCCJ template, ergo your dream about your grandpa
[3:07:10 PM] Wyzard97: This is all ready now to individualise
[3:07:18 PM] Sirius 17: lol yeah, nice synchro it seems
[3:07:35 PM] Sirius 17: i was so happy for my granpa in the dream
[3:07:58 PM] Sirius 17: and i felt after i awoke the flying certificate means something too
[3:08:01 PM] Sirius 17: ETs
[3:08:05 PM] Sirius 17: ships
[3:08:25 PM] Sirius 17: and he is blended with my grandmother somehow
[3:08:37 PM] Sirius 17: she was not in the dream but she flew
[3:09:16 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I agree. This blending is the JCCJ
[3:09:39 PM] Wyzard97: See all New Adams with New Eves are cosmic parents now
[3:09:51 PM] Wyzard97: Son of man and Daughter of Women
[3:10:10 PM] Sirius 17: but then it was a reunion between the dead and living see....everyone knew my grandfather was dead in this dream, it was like a casual thing and only until i was almost awake did i realise the significance of it
[3:10:19 PM] Wyzard97: So the bioparental lineages synchronise with the living dead ones, as we have often said
[3:10:34 PM] Wyzard97: mindblend see how all this fits?
[3:10:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:11:11 PM] Wyzard97: The chart looks like it is about a Deborah, but this Deborah is the coded one
[3:11:36 PM] Wyzard97: All DQBees are the New Eve-Juliet
[3:11:43 PM] Sirius 17: and also, i really have never dreamed of my grandpa, always when i was little i dreamed of my grandmother....i was closer to her and spent more time with her i guess is why. i really find this unusual that i would dream of him now
[3:11:55 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this is very significant
[3:12:16 PM] Wyzard97: It is the biofather 2 in the chart
[3:12:41 PM] Wyzard97: As the 1st gen or the 4th in your case
[3:12:54 PM] Sirius 17: ok i see
[3:12:56 PM] Wyzard97: Sue is your biomother2 in that
[3:13:07 PM] Wyzard97: I said this in the post
[3:13:27 PM] Wyzard97: 4 generations
[3:13:47 PM] Wyzard97: So James father is biofather1
[3:13:58 PM] Wyzard97: AS his own Y-chromosome
[3:14:20 PM] Wyzard97: This is how MI can blend with me
[3:14:28 PM] Sirius 17: and weirdly enough look what my real father said today....he never comments on my FB btw either
[3:14:34 PM] Wyzard97: Anyones MI of course individualised
[3:14:45 PM] Sirius 17: Dave Mestek hey we all like that special treat, keep it that way, not an addiction, you can make it....
[3:14:55 PM] Wyzard97: Yes yours and Xeia's are still alive
[3:14:59 PM] Sirius 17: i made a comment about missing my espressos lol
[3:15:20 PM] Wyzard97: DD's is dead and this caused thge 'revealing'
[3:15:31 PM] Sirius 17: yeah James's father is dead
[3:16:00 PM] Wyzard97: I would say, because yours is alive your grandpa filled the role
[3:16:12 PM] Wyzard97: It is the lineage of the Y chromosome
[3:16:30 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[3:16:41 PM] Wyzard97: Is he patriarchial or matriarchial?
[3:16:55 PM] Sirius 17: my grandpa?
[3:17:00 PM] Wyzard97: Yes you have 2
[3:17:13 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm i would say he is matriarchal
[3:17:22 PM] Sirius 17: my grandmother wore the pants
[3:17:43 PM] Wyzard97: Nono I mean is your grandpa the father of Sue or your father
[3:17:52 PM] Sirius 17: oh my mother
[3:18:08 PM] Wyzard97: So he is your matriarchial grandfather and the lineage of the father's X-chromosome
[3:18:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:18:37 PM] Sirius 17: both my fathers parents are dead too, i never dream of them though
[3:18:37 PM] Wyzard97: This is the Jesus 'controversy' in Luke and Matthew
[3:19:12 PM] Wyzard97: Matthew is patriarchial via Joseph, whilst Luke is matriarchial via Mary
[3:19:25 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[3:19:28 PM] Sirius 17: cool
[3:19:41 PM] Wyzard97: Dear I have written on this many times
[3:19:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
[3:20:01 PM] Wyzard97: But forgotten it
[3:20:03 PM] Sirius 17: my mind is so full of Anatomy dear
[3:20:18 PM] Sirius 17: its in there, but in the back yes
[3:20:27 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and you should focus on this until next week
[3:20:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am taking a mini break to talk to you though

[3:52:15 PM] Wyzard97: You got it
[3:53:21 PM] Sirius 17: CNN did a really great report on our failing health care system and they had Dr. Andrew Weil in it. He is leading edge on combining western medicine with holistic.
[3:53:38 PM] Wyzard97: This is the way to go
[3:53:45 PM] Sirius 17: He talked about how our healthcare system only acts as a bandaid
[3:53:56 PM] Sirius 17: and treats the symptoms and does NOTHING for prevention
[3:54:07 PM] Sirius 17: most of the cost in our health care is preventable
[3:54:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yes in an advanced civilisation, they would be
[3:54:32 PM] Sirius 17: Drs are now churned out of med school with pen and perscription pad in hand and he said this is very wrong
[3:55:08 PM] Sirius 17: the USA and New Zealand are the only countries where big pharma is allowed to advertise their BS
[3:55:14 PM] Sirius 17: drugs
[3:55:39 PM] Sirius 17: and that this is causing many of the doctors to be pressured by patients into over perscribing these drugs
[3:55:57 PM] Sirius 17: oh it was really good and on national TV, he ripped them a new asshole
[3:56:11 PM] Sirius 17: its something people need to see
[3:56:31 PM] Wyzard97: If they watch it
[3:56:39 PM] Sirius 17: but he is pretty cool, he runs a fellowship for doctors that teaches them the new ways
[3:57:10 PM] Wyzard97: Yes not all the systems in place are so bad to be dismantled
[3:57:11 PM] Sirius 17: one doctor on there quit her clinic job because they forced her to see 6 patients an hour. money money money over quality care.
[3:57:48 PM] Sirius 17: she got so frustrated with them that she found a clinic that allowed her to give the care she was trained for
[3:57:53 PM] Sirius 17: and wished to give
[3:57:59 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
[3:58:39 PM] Wyzard97: Like the last pope, the systems are 'use by date' now
[3:59:06 PM] Wyzard97: Facade and the new stuff can begin to substitute
[3:59:21 PM] Wyzard97: 2013 is the transition year
[3:59:30 PM] Sirius 17: and they did a spotlight on cleaveland medical clinic. A few docs got together and decided they all worked better as a team so they started it and pay themselves a reasonable salary and focus on teamwork in patient care. They have the highest sucess rates for health and lowest cost in the nation.
[3:59:46 PM] Wyzard97: I hope Xeia will not be too disappointed again if nothing major changes by April
[4:00:20 PM] Wyzard97: She expects big things, she read on those links
[4:00:41 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the human consciousness is changing big time in a FEW
[4:00:47 PM] Sirius 17: what do you make of NK? Do you think that they are crazy enough to start a war?
[4:01:09 PM] Wyzard97: Perhaps, but most probably not
[4:02:04 PM] Sirius 17: i have been thinking that this young kid is just trying to rally the country behind his new leadership, so he is getting them all stoked in his rhetoric and such
[4:02:06 PM] Wyzard97: Perhaps this stuff serves as a trigger for Israel to act
[4:02:20 PM] Wyzard97: He is a kid
[4:02:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes and he is trying to show he is an adult with leadership capabilities
[4:03:11 PM] Sirius 17: but it is kind of scarry to think he might just be meglomaniac enough to force them into war
[4:03:49 PM] Wyzard97: Armageddon code ends March 25th
[4:04:09 PM] Wyzard97: Until then, we are in the 'last hour' of 15 days
[4:04:34 PM] Wyzard97: So March 11th-March 25th is indeed 'crucial' as Xeia's links proclaim
[4:04:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have been feeling things in my body, i have been very tired
[4:04:55 PM] Sirius 17: no energy
[4:05:02 PM] Wyzard97: So past March 25th, there will be a new energy stream
[4:05:15 PM] Sirius 17: i hope so, i need a change
[4:05:37 PM] Wyzard97: Well in terms of memes there must be
[4:05:48 PM] Wyzard97: How this physicalises is anyone's guess
[4:05:53 PM] Sirius 17: but i am hoping it is something good rather then a doomsday event you know
[4:06:07 PM] Wyzard97: I dont think there will be any doomsdays
[4:06:22 PM] Sirius 17: i dont want war, people dying, mass disaster, pole shifts or any of that shit
[4:06:23 PM] Wyzard97: Look at all the natural disasters of the last 3 months
[4:06:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[4:06:35 PM] Wyzard97: NOT many human casualties
[4:06:40 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
[4:06:46 PM] Wyzard97: property destructions yes
[4:07:09 PM] Sirius 17: even the sun is calm
[4:07:17 PM] Wyzard97: What I 'predicted' as a consequence of the December 21st solstice and the new 5D
[4:07:48 PM] Wyzard97: So Thuban has claimed the opposite of 'doomsday'
[4:09:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes why i have been looking at the science feeds ect, because the new laws should manifest there too
[4:09:36 PM] Sirius 17: as people all get more as people all get more on the same page
[4:10:22 PM] Sirius 17: but i do feel the even that Xeia sees is like the guy described in his article, where the masses will become aware in a very deep way of the judgement
[4:10:44 PM] Sirius 17: but i see this as more of a dawning then a darkening
[4:13:34 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this is your 'decent doctors' package and so on; the few amongst the many
[4:14:09 PM] Wyzard97: But the few will eventually become a potent force to then become the majority
[4:14:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes this i feel is the awakening of the divine femme, the Maya's and Hopi predicted as well.
[4:14:56 PM] Wyzard97: But too much nabs and bogus conspiracies muddle and brainwash the people just as the mainstream media does
[4:15:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes still a lot of confusion reigning out there
[4:15:55 PM] Wyzard97: One is underkill and the other overkill of disinfo
[4:16:18 PM] Sirius 17: i have to laugh at Carol
[4:16:39 PM] Wyzard97: Oh she is 'unbelievable' and then 'administering' a forum
[4:16:52 PM] Sirius 17: someone debunked her cliff high reports and she just acts like oh well...he was one of her top disinfo sources
[4:17:02 PM] Wyzard97: Her 'admin and ceo' experience are something to behold
[4:17:28 PM] Sirius 17: i have been scanning the forums over there and its gotten so bad now
[4:17:33 PM] Sirius 17: they have nothing to talk about
[4:17:39 PM] Sirius 17: zero zip nada
[4:17:54 PM] Wyzard97: 1000 members lol and the main posters are we are you and carol
[4:18:03 PM] Sirius 17: so now she is beating dead horses, nibiru, conspiracy, the news....
[4:18:27 PM] Wyzard97: I did put one post there, as it is super relevant
[4:18:49 PM] Wyzard97: Above their heads of course, but they 'had been given notice' so no excuses
[4:18:52 PM] Sirius 17: oh i noticed you logged me on but didn't see the post
[4:19:12 PM] Sirius 17: oh did you sneak it in as an edit?
[4:19:16 PM] Wyzard97: First post since December 8th
[4:19:30 PM] Wyzard97: No it is on constitution
[4:19:56 PM] Wyzard97: Oxy is quoting you and abrax a bit lately though
[4:20:11 PM] Wyzard97: He reads your posts
[4:21:02 PM] Sirius 17: oh i have not read his shit in a long time
[4:21:19 PM] Wyzard97: He misses the Thubans
[4:22:05 PM] Sirius 17: no wonder i didn't see it, Susan bumped her post again. i usually look from the homepage and scan down the forums to see what today's posts were. I don't have to log in this way to find the newest posts usually.
[4:22:09 PM] Wyzard97: But I must tune another computer Raven. I am using one of Richard's here atm
[4:22:36 PM] Sirius 17: yes i need to get busy studying anyhow lol
[4:22:55 PM] Wyzard97: Your post is on constitution. Oxys are on his main thread
[4:23:08 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i will look later when i have time
[4:23:31 PM] Wyzard97: Buenas and take care an good luck Julienne
[4:23:42 PM] Sirius 17: thank you Tony
[4:23:49 PM] Sirius 17: Buenas noches to you too
[4:24:11 PM] Sirius 17: (F)(heidy)(F)

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Re: The Constitution and Almanac of the New Cosmos in Dragon Logos Law and Jurisprudence

Raven on December 8th 2012, 11:10 pm
Raven wrote:

More on New Age Bullshit deceptions, this time obscured as hidden 'conservative' right-wing political infiltration - or not!

[3:34:47 PM - Tuesday, July 31st, 2012 - 10UCT]

Thubanis: Some of you may know of the 'factions in politics' like Republican Right Wing and Democratic left wing stereotype in the Land of Uncle Sam or the Tories of the conservatives in the Uk versus the Progressives of the left in the 'house of commons'
[3:35:49 PM] Thubanis: Surprise , surprise then here in Australia this standoff is between the 'Liberals' of the right and the conservatives versus the 'Labour' Unionists of the left as the progressives
[3:37:07 PM] Thubanis: Then we find a hilarious situation, when the 'conservative right, meaning in earnest, Big Brother and Control by 'fiscal responsibility' and budget keeping, progress for profit etc, as a Founder of a new 'spiritual movement' for a new world
[3:37:15 PM] Thubanis: Excerpt:
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Q11. Is the founder a member of any groups/associations?

Yes, Frank O’Collins is commissioned as a Notary of One Heaven according to the Covenant of One Heaven. A one-time member of the Liberal Party of Australia up until 1994/5, O’Collins has never been a member or associate of any radical group or movement. However, O’Collins is no longer a financial member of any other professional body or political association.

[3:37:58 PM] Thubanis:
Q7. What are the qualifications/skills of the founder of UCADIA?

The founder, Frank O'Collins does not currently have a university degree or equivalent qualification to validate his knowledge and expertise. Instead, O'Collins is a musician, poet, philosopher, software designer and business documents writer by trade having worked in a wide variety of careers including politics, religion, finance and information technology.

[3:38:09 PM] Thubanis: This is just too funny! Note this: "" business documents writer""
[3:39:08 PM] Thubanis: Most people in Australia KNOW what the philosophy olf the 'liberals' is and how it is aligned to the tories of Great Britain and the republicans in the USA
[3:40:14 PM] Thubanis: The 'Notaries of Heaven' under UCADIA.
[3:41:34 PM] Thubanis: I might mention here, that there is information relating to ACADIA in the templar lineage agendas. I try to find some data on it.

[3:42:20 PM] Thubanis: Meanwhile this is yet another deception attempt from the powers that wish to be.

Arcadia has remained a popular artistic subject since antiquity, both in visual arts and literature. Images of beautiful nymphs frolicking in lush forests have been a frequent source of inspiration for painters and sculptors. As a result of the influence of Virgil in medieval European literature (see, for example, Divine Comedy), Arcadia became a symbol of pastoral simplicity. European Renaissance writers (for instance, the Spanish poet Garcilaso de la Vega) often revisited the theme, and the name came to apply to any idyllic location or paradise. Unlike the word "utopia" (named for Thomas More's book, Utopia), "Arcadia" does not carry the connotation of a human civilization; Arcadia is presented as the spontaneous result of life lived naturally, uncorrupted by civilization.

The 'hints' as to 'Divine Comedy' and 'Utopia' are here illustrated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(utopia)
[3:42:26 PM] Thubanis:

Q1. What is UCADIA about?

Q2. What does the word UCADIA mean?

Q3. What is the underlying idea underpinning the UCADIAN model?

Q4. Who founded UCADIA?, when and why?

Q5. Where was the founder of UCADIA born? when? where does he live now?

Q6. Has any other group(s)/individual(s) contributed to the creation of UCADIA?

Q7. What are the qualifications/skills of the founder of UCADIA?

Q8. Who helped fund the creation and update of UCADIA?

Q9. How big is UCADIA?

Q10. Because of its size, where is the best place to start with UCADIA?

Q11. Is the founder a member of any groups/associations?

Q12. From what sources did all the information in the UCADIAN model come?

Q13. Where can I find a list of citations of sources for the UCADIAN model?

Q14. Has any of UCADIA been properly tested and/or checked by “experts”?

Q15. Does the founder of UCADIA think he is some kind of guru/messiah?

Q16. Who and what does the founder think he is?

Q17. What is the end goal/objective of UCADIA?

Q18. Is UCADIA some kind of religion?

Q19. Is UCADIA a cult?

Q1. What is UCADIA about?

UCADIA represents a spiritual and legal presence, a classification structure of knowledge and rules, a collection of models of law and function of societies and a language of pure symbolic semantic meaning.

As a spiritual and legal presence, the proof is to be found in the meaning of the word UCADIA; As a classification structure of knowledge and rules, the proof is to be found in the seven (7) patents of UCADIA; As a collection of models of law and function of societies, the proof is to be found in the links to the many political and free society sites; and as a language of pure symbolic semantic meaning, the proof is to be found in the language, both explained in the patents and on this site.

Q2. What does the word UCADIA mean?

UCADIA stands for Unique Collective Awareness of DIA. A DIA are pure symbolic representations of meaning, the units of meaning upon which the UCADIAN language of pure symbolic semantic meaning is constructed.

Unique Collective Awareness (‘UCA”) means the unique collection of all things, a pure concept defined as the ultimate paradox, the absolute. The relationships of UCA are reflected in the first seven (7) patents.

Q3. What is the underlying idea underpinning the UCADIAN model?

It’s about an idea that life is a dream of awareness in motion, that because we exist within the dream, we are bound by the rules of the dream, but because we are also awareness, we can determine how the dream unfolds.

Q4. Who founded UCADIA? When and why?

Frank O’Collins founded UCADIA back in 1995 after fifteen years of research and reflection. UCADIA was first launched on the Internet in 2001 and the additional websites launched starting in 2005. The reason why UCADIA was created relates to the personal journey of Frank O’Collins as explained on this site. The simplest answer is that the information could no longer be ignored and needed to be presented for all to see.

Q5. Where was the founder of UCADIA borne? when? where does he live now?

Frank O'Collins was born was borne at the Mercy Maternity Hospital East Melbourne (formerly known as Emerald Hill), Melbourne Australia March 14th 1965. O'Collins now lives in Sydney Australia.

Q6. Has any other group(s)/individual(s) contributed to the creation of UCADIA?

Until 2009, Frank O’Collins has been the sole Architect of UCADIA and all the information on the associated websites. No other group has contributed to its creation and while Frank O’Collins has shared various insights throughout the years with a handful of individuals, he remains its sole Author. In August 2009, through the Covenant of One Heaven a conference of notaries was founded and is now the custodians of ongoing development, refinement, correction and publication of the UCADIAN information.

Q7. What are the qualifications/skills of the founder of UCADIA?

The founder, Frank O'Collins does not currently have a university degree or equivalent qualification to validate his knowledge and expertise. Instead, O'Collins is a musician, poet, philosopher, software designer and business documents writer by trade having worked in a wide variety of careers including politics, religion, finance and information technology.

Q8. Who helped fund the creation and update of UCADIA?

Up until 2010, the sole funding for the creation and update of UCADIA has been through the personal investment of its founder Frank O’Collins with no related benefactors, patrons, major donations or any other direct or indirect external financial assistance. From 2010, ongoing funding and development is managed by the notaries of One Heaven and associated societies of UCADIA through coordinated fundraising and asset management programs.

Q9. How big is UCADIA?

The UCADIA Model is represented presently by 38,500 web pages over 50 websites including political, spiritual, economic, scientific, information technology, societies, legal, financial and economic sites.

Q10. Because of its size, where is the best place to start with UCADIA?

Because of the tens of thousands of pages and over 50 web sites, it is easy to be overwhelmed with UCADIA. That is why it is recommended all readers begin with the e-books the Journey of UCA and the Journey of Self first as a good outline to the intention and core concepts of UCADIA before branching out into the other related web sites and information.

Q11. Is the founder a member of any groups/associations?

Yes, Frank O’Collins is commissioned as a Notary of One Heaven according to the Covenant of One Heaven. A one-time member of the Liberal Party of Australia up until 1994/5, O’Collins has never been a member or associate of any radical group or movement. However, O’Collins is no longer a financial member of any other professional body or political association.

Q12. From what sources did all the information in the UCADIAN model come?

The Information contained in the Ucadian model up until 2010 has come from three principle sources: (1) Detailed reading and analysis of thousands of texts and articles on a wide variety of subjects from physics, chemistry, history, sociology, biology, mathematics, politics, economics etc read by Frank O’Collins; (2) Original invention and critical analysis by Frank O’Collins on the thousands of texts and articles written, producing unique perspectives on the material written; and (3) Divine inspiration.

Q13. Where can I find a list of citations of sources for the UCADIAN model?

Where a direct quote of information is reproduced in any way within any of the writing on any site of UCADIA, an embedded citation is listed. However, UCADIA does not adhere to the Roman citation method that requires all arguments to be based on the assumption of referenced primary texts in order to be legitimate.

Q14. Has any of UCADIA been properly tested and/or checked by “experts”?

Many elements of the UCADIA model have been submitted to academic and industry experts for their review over the years, including the fields of physics, philosophy, chemistry and mathematics. However, in almost all cases due to the lack of adherence to established academic protocols for precisely how new research is recognized as valid, no official validations have yet been given (as at 2009) to any of the information contained in UCADIA.

Q15. Does the founder of UCADIA think he is some kind of guru/messiah?

No. Frank O’Collins goes out of his way to demonstrate he does not think, behave or believe he is any kind of guru or messiah. In fact, UCADIA has an entire chapter devoted to explain the illness affecting many—but not the author—who openly or secretly believe themselves to be messiahs, called “messiah Syndrome”.

Q16. Who and what does the founder think he is?

The Founder of UCADIA, Frank O’Collins considers himself to be a man, no more or less special than any other man. That is why he lists his final will and testament with details on how he came to write UCADIA so it is clear to all who care to read that he considers the value and usefulness of the ideas of UCADIA fare more important than any personal benefit and awareness.

Q17. What is the end goal of UCADIA?

The end goal of UCADIA is that individuals have access to comprehensive, logical, integrated models of society capable of offering a real difference and that these alternatives provide choice when current societies face periods of crisis in coming years concerning depression, climate change and rule of law.

Q18. Is UCADIA some kind of religion?

No, UCADIA is not some kind of new religion. Many elements of UCADIA refer to religion and extend certain narratives and belief systems concerning religious history as key models. However, all religious references and information remains firmly in the context of models of society and society function and not as an exclusive separation from existing religious and cultural beliefs.

Q19. Is UCADIA a cult?

UCADIA in no way can be called a cult, unless the individual making such accusations wishes to deliberately misrepresent UCADIA for some ulterior motive. By definition, such a slander implies “some kind of unorthodox or spurious religion”—in other words against orthodox religious beliefs and without sound foundation. UCADIA demonstrates through its religious models a fulfilment of orthodox beliefs, not a conflict. Furthermore, UCADIA demonstrates comprehensive scriptural references and frameworks—again contrary to any poorly founded fringe group. Therefore, any claim of UCADIA being a cult must be treated as deliberately false and/or misinformed.

[3:42:40 PM] Thubanis: http://www.ucadia.com/gen_help.htm

[3:48:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: TONY - now, THIS IS INTERESTING - 20 calendars - of which, they give 16 of them
[3:52:13 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: every one of them - fits into those 144
[3:52:18 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: numbers
[3:52:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: except one - the 5th on tz'otz-tun 364 day

[3:53:00 PM]Thubanis:

The reference to esotericism, from which I am rather sure O'Collins received his 'inspration' about UCADIA is a famous painting of the rennaisance.

Btw I checked some of the proposed 'unified science' from this Ucadia site and it is laughable. He invents new names, which have absolutely nothing to do with the well tested and verified physical nature and structure of the factual universe... an example is this below and anyone halfway familiar with ANY real science would see that O'Collins simply has no deeper familiarity with the real science of the human historical journey.

For example a magneton is a well defined characteristic of quantum mechanics, regarding the intrinsic angular momentum of an electron. Frank Collins then 'invents something' he considers unique to the UCADIA 'unified theory' as a magneton and distinguishes it as a magnetic 'agent' from the 'electric' agent. A truly 'heavenly' fantasy!...

Also any physics graduate clearly understands that neutrinos are ALWAYS associated intrinsically to the weak nuclear force (radioactivity) and so do NOT characterise the strong nuclear force. But then the NABSERS and quasi scientists mislead the seekers and now they hide as ex-political conservatives. It must be something in the waters they drink. The "heaton" as a new form of the 'calorie' and the 'phlogiston' prior to the discovery of 'Oxygen' as a 'particle of Heat'??!! Truly amazing that such nonsense is published on the web as a 'science or classification system' onto which a 'new world' could be built from the old previous construction. And the guru groupies follow this stuff and attempt to share this around? Learn some real physics and learn some real history before sprouting your nonsense about in your mental environment pollutions.

http://ucadia.com/uca/u09/091000.htm

Traditional force/energy

Level---UCA element name

Gravity---1. Unita---NEDA Unita

Strong force---2. Super sub---E Neutrino

Radiation (gamma)---2. Super sub---Cosmics

Magnetism---2. Super sub---Magneton

Light---3. Sub atomic---Photon

Heat (infrared)---3. Sub atomic---Heton

Electricity---3. Sub atomic---Electron,Positron

Burn (fire)---4. Atomic---Hydrogen

[3:52:45 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: which obviously fits with 364 1
[3:52:47 PM] Thubanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_in_Arcadia_ego
[3:53:04 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: or 365 - there 'rebooting day' as , aluna calls it - or, dead day
[3:53:17 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: in haab 360 5
[3:54:10 PM ] Thubanis: It so is used by many new agers to link the 'Tomb of Mary Magdalene' or 'God' or the 'Black Madonna' etc etc to this painting and the ARCADIA ARCHETYPE

[3:54:14 PM] Thubanis: "Et in Arcadia ego" is a Latin phrase that most famously appears as the title of two paintings by Nicolas Poussin (1594–1665). They are pastoral paintings depicting idealized shepherds from classical antiquity, clustering around an austere tomb. The more famous second version of the subject, measuring 87 by 120 centimetres (34.25 x 47.24 in), is in the Louvre, Paris, and also goes under the name "Les bergers d'Arcadie" ("The Arcadian Shepherds").

[3:55:00 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, poussin
[3:55:11 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: reincarnated as a famous british painter
[3:55:16 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: named Ralph Shepherd
[3:55:32 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: part of a group of 12 painters in britian
[3:56:22 PM] Thubanis: LOOK HERE
[3:56:31 PM] Thubanis: Arcadia

The 16th century Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano applied the name "Arcadia" to the entire North American Atlantic coast north of Virginia. In time, this mutated to Acadia. The Dictionary of Canadian Biography says: "Arcadia, the name Verrazzano gave to Maryland or Virginia 'on account of the beauty of the trees', made its first cartographical appearance in the 1548 Gastaldo map and is the only name on that map to survive in Canadian usage. . . . In the 17th century Champlain fixed its present orthography, with the 'r' omitted, and Ganong has shown its gradual progress northwards, in a succession of maps, to its resting place in the Atlantic Provinces".

[3:57:47 PM] Thubanis: The letter 'R' omitted renders Arcadia as Acadia with CR=U phonetically as See R with R=666=99
[3:59:50 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: can someone capture this painting - http://www.redshiftarts.co.uk/contact-red-shift-arts and post it somewhere on thubansprutz

[3:59:51 PM ] Thubanis: Finally this 'critique' from an Icke forum tells the brainwashed seeker a little more about Frank O'Collins and the real motives of UCADIA. Interesting that one 'conspirator' critiques another 'conspirator here.

The UCADIA organization, created by Frank O'Collins, from which Brian quotes in his article and promotes on his website is simply a "model" from which to form a new society. It appears as a large organization with many affiliates but upon closer examination you will notice that every single affiliate website which are listed in his website are all owned by Frank himself. There are no member lists or contacts other than Frank. All websites have been created from the same template. The organization is built around philosophies which Frank highlights in his 2 books, "The Journey of UCA" and "The Journey of Self". The former outlining his concepts, ideologies, language and complex symbols which make up this language. The latter exposing his ideoligies regarding religion, the soul, the mind, ancient systems of law, socio-political models and much more... Frank, however, advocates the United Nations model and seperates the world into unions, eerily similar to the Club of Rome's plan to divide the world into 10 regions. It seems odd to me that a man who seems to be knowledgeable in so many aspects of social and political systems would be oblivious to the reality of why, and by whom, the United Nations were formed. How can a man who is well versed in ancient systems of law and the etymology of words and is advocating a new system of law, be supporting the United Nations model?

The UCADIA model also supports a global currency. In chapter 18 of "The Journey of Self" entitled "EKELOS - ethical economics", Frank states that "A single global currency however, would fundamentally alter and enable a revolution in the way trade is conducted around the world" He continues with the idea that every human being would be digitally identified through corporate controlled Unique Digital Avatars.
"In the 21st century, all human beings are identified by electronic information in some way on a number of computer systems. This electronic information might be as simple as dates of births, deaths and marriages. Electronic information will also exist if a person has a bank account, or earns income and is subject to paying taxes."
"A credit would be printed on a smart card device with an electronically charged value of 1, 5, 10, 20. Alternatively a credit would be a corporate created device storing credits through their credit network (such as EFTPOS)."

In other words, Frank would like a societal model based on UN philosophy, a global currency controlled by corporations and a unique digital identification system which stores all your personal information which would also be controlled by corporations. Sound familiar?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148360

So for the Dragons here, the true 'quasi-political' agenda of UCADIA should become rather obvious and as exemplified by the critique of the Icke forum above. And this is just what my first impression about this was. This could actually be a real ptb infiltrator and 'double-agent whistleblower' if this UCADIA has a big readership as is claimed. Then, due to the lack of substance, this could be 'big brother' deception at its devious worst.

...

People around the globe are awakening to the truth. I am grateful to so many people who have taken the time to share their knowledge so that we may all benefit from their insight. I thank you as well Brian, for sharing your thoughts, however, it is my opinion that your website, through collaboration, is deliberately set up as a stepping stone to the UCADIA website, which is a classic dis-information website.

http://university.ucadia.info/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1196.0

[9:01:41 PM] Thubanis: On this link Frank O'Collins directly 'wars' with ninz, the OP on the Icke thread at the 'University of Ucadia' - One can see, that ninz is tolerated there by the admins and mods for a while, but that the general mileu as NABS reurgitation should be selfevident. Ninz got the 'Lucifer' archetype all wrong, whilst Frank has this symbol rather right; but so has the Lucifer Trust and the 'Illuminati' as the 'Enlightened Ones' now don't they?

This forum is comparable to MOA though in terms of scope and membership and so I do no longer carry the view, that Frank O'Collins functions in the capacity of a ptb infiltrator, like the Camelot/Avalon became or were. He seems to be sincere in his wellmeaning 'self delusions' and the 'mental illnesses' he accuses other 'alternative reformers' though.

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[8:09:02 PM] Thubanis: Beware Princesses of the New Age of Aquarius - beware!~

Susan the calendars are ok as they are

[1:30:19 PM - Wednesday, August 1st, 2012 - 10UCT]

Thubanis: FYI I do NOT consider Aquaries copy-pasting any data publically accessible from there as being in any way a 'break of protocol'.
[1:30:57 PM] Thubanis: There was one instance, where intimate data about Raven was on cosmosdawn, when it should not have been
[1:31:28 PM] Thubanis: This was my error and my fault alone, as I did not proof read this post, before it was shared on MOA I recall
[1:32:35 PM] Thubanis: As I have stopped sharing on MOA. anyone sharing ANY public data from Thuban on ANY other forum is welcome to do so
[1:33:19 PM] Thubanis: Having said this, I did not see the post in question here, as Carol edited it, so I cannot further comment as to if i feel this is appropriate or not
[1:35:07 PM] Thubanis: I shared this Ucadia post however to make a point about how the 'would be reformers' fighting each other and there were the two opposing views in that post; besides my obvious comments, which analysed and critisized the metaphysical and scientific 'understanding' of Frank O'Collins
[1:37:00 PM] Thubanis: I am well aware, that Aquaries is a 'follower' of Frank O'Collins and attempts to display openly how his 'view' and cosmology contrasts, competes or supplements Thuban cosmology. She does the same with oxymoron's 'obsessions' and the Logos deniers on a regular basis.
[1:37:18 PM] Thubanis: This is nothing to 'worry about'
[1:38:12 PM] Thubanis: I also know that Aquaries is fundamentally anti-Logos and adversarial to anything we are trying to do here.
[1:38:39 PM] Thubanis: But after being a 'puppet' of the wishy-washy NABS for so many years, this is a point we can understand, or should try to accomodate
[1:42:49 PM] Thubanis: What my sharing of this latest NABS nonsense tried to show, was that the real information, necessary to herald in a 'New World' MUST be thoroughly selfconsistent and rationally built on the existing edifices and mental structures
[1:44:13 PM] Thubanis: Frank's science is utter BS, as anyone with an inkling of the history of science would see straight away. Frank is an expolitician and 'business LAW consultant'. This is why he puts so much emphasis on statutes and regulations.
[1:47:32 PM] Thubanis: This ninz character is a super debunker and skeptic, who appears to be overzealous in his 'pursuits' of the disinformers. Yet he does a valuable 'job' of this and the refusal of Frank to further engage him and to let it up to his 'moderators' to defend Ucadia also shows the 'true character' in terms of his 'University of Ucadia' of having any cosmic 'clout'. It has a little, as Frank imo means well, but is somewhat 'lost' in his manner of blending his 'lifeexperience' as a 'business law consultant' with his earnest desire to bridge the chasms between real science and the metaphysics.
[1:47:48 PM] Thubanis: This is the same Thuban and many other 'groups' are doing.
[1:50:38 PM] Thubanis: The point is however, that the 'uniqueness' of Thuban cannot be copied or shared as some other 'uniqueness', say as Camelot or Avalon or Ucadia or MOA or Nexus or Atticus or Majix etc etc, as to do so, would require a much much deeper understanding of the premises, than you will find on the web and mainstream and alternative sites.
[1:53:13 PM] Thubanis: So the 'competition' which Aquaries and other Thuban debunkers, espouse is a non sequitur; as to USE or UNDERSTAND Thuban, requires a lot of work, which is NOT found in any form of the NABS, which by nature is OVERGENERALISED in 'Love and Light' and wishy-washy pastings together of what is called New Age Philosophy or religion and also politics.
[1:54:46 PM] Thubanis: So finally, Aquaries has done the dragons a favour in acting as a delegate from Thuban to MOA and in publishing a Thuban perspective on the value of UCADIA
[1:55:33 PM] Thubanis: A kind of double-agent in the agency of not knowing what one does, seems an appropriate and final comment on this matter. And Aquaries' sharing of the 'Dead Sea Scroll' post and critique was similar and apparently did not result in 'deletions'. It also should be self evident that the actual 'readership' of anything Thuban is comparatively miniscule. This is at it should be for the dragon science to become a potent factor in the cosmic metamorphosis. Not many can understand the deeper agendas regarding this transformation in the present times.
[1:56:09 PM] Thubanis: I might be away for a while!

[2:27:21 PM - Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 - 10UCT]
Ishtara Raven:
It appears that there was a misunderstanding about the content and sharing of personal private Thuban chats from Aquaries. I have looked over the shared messages and find nothing personal or private that we would not otherwise share on our own public forums. It appears she took the conversations from our own forums to augment her own discussion about Ucadia and this is fine. I would like to say however should she paste any sensitive material from the private chats I would wish this to be deleted immediately. I will put my trust in Aquaries for now not to do such a thing and honor her desire to share Thuban data streams.

Sincerely, Raven

UCADIA Cult Predicts 4-Horsemen End of the World in 2012

It seems that a group calling themselves the Unique Collective Awareness of DIA (UCADIA) has claimed to have predicted the arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, and allege that the first two have already arrived.

This self-proclaimed Spiritual Society (which is in fact made up of several smaller societies) was founded by Frank O’Collins in 1995.

Though the group’s site is adamant about denying that it is a cult, it does portray many cult-like characteristics.

One of which is predicting an impending end of the world in 2012.

According to the Standard Examiner, UCADIA has openly stated the following:

“The UTC Date for the 1st Horseman of the Apocalypse ‘White Horse’ was 12/21/2009 aka ‘Day of Divine Agreement.’ Haiti earthquake, Deepwater Horizon, Australia fires, Pakistan and India Flooding, Russian heat wave/drought, and the European deep freeze soon followed. The UTC date for the 3rd ‘Black Horse’ is 12/21/2011 aka ‘Day of Judgment’. The UTC date for the 4th ‘Pale Horse’ is the ‘Day of Redemption’ 12/21/2012.”

Notice a pattern here?

All of these dates revolve around the winter solstice. The final being (you guessed it) December 21, 2012. It seems the “Ucadians” are jumping on the 2012 bandwagon with their own version of what is to come.

UCADIA Societies Create "Supporting Evidence"

What is really comical about the cult’s predictions is that in the Standard Examiner’s articles about them, the author lists 10 other websites that seem to back up the claim.

However, all of the websites listed are in the same network of “societies” that make up UCADIA.

What is the group’s rationale behind this? Simply put; money! Just read their Help UCADIA webpage:

Now, ahead of handing over the complete Ucadia model to communities that support Ucadia around the world, Frank O'Collins and Ucadia need your support and help. Without your help, the next six months will be even more difficult as devoting the time necessary to prepare transition means almost no time to earn an income to pay to survive and support UCADIA.

Please show your help in a practical way by choosing to donate through one of the four options below.

Those options are: $60, $300, $900, or $1800.

In short, UCADIA is just another Doomsday Cult out to make a quick buck off the whole End of the World in 2012 theory.

[11:49:44 AM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=390539641028734&set=a.119791638103537.28779.117905868292114&type=1&theater
[11:49:49 AM] Ishtara Raven: tony look at this
[12:53:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: hmmm researching this ucadia XXXX ....Tony this crap is scarry as hell, and I believe 44 has been into this for a while now. I am seeing all kinds of crap about how to challange the laws and the system, mortage fraud ect. Remember when she said she is challanging the mortgage of her house and all that? Well I think Frank O Collins has been helping her out here. She is deep into this XXXX, worshiping him like a god. i read her dialogue with xeia and it is very troubling to me.
[12:55:03 PM] Ishtara Raven: i have tried to find anyone debunking ucadia and the guy must have google paid off or something because every thing i type in with his name or ucadia comes up with his websites, youtube videos and it goes pages deep into the searches. this is so disgusting.
[12:55:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2011/06/ucadia-cult-predicts-4-horsemen-end-of-the-world-in-2012/
[12:55:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: so far i have found this article, but everything else pretty much leads you to one of his websites
[12:56:33 PM] Ishtara Raven: this is obviously a huge money making scam
[12:56:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: and i think she has been sucked in
[12:57:07 PM] Ishtara Raven: likely he is acting as councel for people who want to take on the system and charging them money, like ungodly ammounts of money
[12:57:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: it is my suspicion that he is totally freelancing this garbage from his home pc

[6:34:57 PM] Ishtara Raven: seems he is worshiped quite heavily
[6:34:58 PM] Thubanis: This was important to me
[6:35:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: no i dont mind
[6:35:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am disgusted with it
[6:35:14 PM] Thubanis: Good
[6:35:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: totally
[6:35:31 PM] Ishtara Raven: its obscene how he has blocked anything negative about himself
[6:35:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: and his organization
[6:36:20 PM] Ishtara Raven: and after i read xeias convo with 44, which just loaded today for some reason, it had the hair on my back raised
[6:36:35 PM] Thubanis: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED
[6:36:40 PM] Thubanis: I know
[6:36:56 PM] Thubanis: He is antichrist mind through and through
[6:37:07 PM] Thubanis: Hiding as love and light in new laws
[6:37:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: santos bonnaci and maxwell and the rest of the naBS circle of deniers back ucadia, so disgusting
[6:37:30 PM] Thubanis: Well of course
[6:37:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes and i see a ptb agenda here too, these are UN charter laws
[6:37:45 PM] Thubanis: It is the antichrist mind as said
[6:37:48 PM] Thubanis: in full flight
[6:37:50 PM] Ishtara Raven: its total promotion of the UN theme
[6:38:07 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes horrifiying
[6:38:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am pissed off lol
[6:38:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: i want to dig up anything on this dude
[6:38:19 PM] Thubanis: Well you could reply on MOA if floyd says something see'[6:56:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: well its a big circle of false crap, the nesara people are behind ucadia too
[6:56:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: backing it
[6:56:11 PM] Thubanis: Really?
[6:56:14 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
[6:56:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: use bing
[6:56:19 PM] Thubanis: How do you know?
[6:56:34 PM] Thubanis: You should say this on floyds thread
[6:56:53 PM] Thubanis: Exposing this crap is appropriate
[6:56:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: because of the websites that i found and the discussions about it, these people all talk about nesara and promote it along with ucadia
[6:57:10 PM] Thubanis: 44's new cosmic family
[6:57:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: and nesara is a huge scam
[6:57:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: money money money
[6:57:24 PM] Thubanis: Yes ptb I know that
[6:58:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: so nesara has adds running on a lot of affiliate sites that support and link to ucadia

[7:15:13 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes definately
[7:15:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: i do feel this that its activated and very powerful atm
[7:15:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: because people really are in deep reflection atm
[7:16:01 PM] Ishtara Raven: all over the world
[7:17:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: but yeah this nesara BS has so many mesmerized and the ucadia crap too
[7:17:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: like you need a piece of paper to declaire yourself free? wtf is this XXXX
[7:17:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: does a squirrel need to declaire itself a freeman?
[7:18:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: and draw up some fancy paper with a seal?
[7:18:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: who came up with this XXXX
[7:18:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: humans
[7:19:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: and 44 is so facinated by Ucadia's so called legitimacy, all because it looks fancy and is another form of legalese and doubletalk, such crap
[7:19:22 PM] Ishtara Raven: signed her soul over to the devil
[7:19:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: idiot

[7:21:53 PM] Ishtara Raven:

(64) Jesus said, "A man had received visitors. And when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite the guests.
He went to the first one and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said, 'I have claims against some merchants. They are coming to me this evening. I must go and give them my orders. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master has invited you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a house and am required for the day. I shall not have any spare time.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'My friend is going to get married, and I am to prepare the banquet. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a farm, and I am on my way to collect the rent. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused.'
The servant returned and said to his master, 'Those whom you invited to the dinner have asked to be excused.' The master said to his servant, 'Go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you happen to meet, so that they may dine.' Businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."

[7:22:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: put this with it because nesara and ucadia are merchant men
[7:22:23 PM] Ishtara Raven: maybe someone will get this
[7:23:32 PM] Thubanis: Ok
[[7:25:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am trying to find another piece of scripture where jesus says the kingdom is not for sale
[7:29:01 PM] Thubanis: Hmm I dont know the passage, he talks in a certain way on this
[7:29:23 PM] Thubanis: Perhaps you mean the 'living waters'
[7:29:33 PM] Thubanis: All free

[7:30:00 PM] Ishtara Raven:

[7:30:24 PM] Ishtara Raven:

Luke 12:10-40 (New King James Version)

10 “And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven.

11 “Now when they bring you to the synagogues and magistrates and authorities, do not worry about how or what you should answer, or what you should say.

12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.”

The Parable of the Rich Fool

13 Then one from the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”

14 But He said to him, “Man, who made Me a judge or an arbitrator over you?”

15 And He said to them, “Take heed and beware of covetousness,[a] for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.”

16 Then He spoke a parable to them, saying: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded plentifully.

17 And he thought within himself, saying, ‘What shall I do, since I have no room to store my crops?’ 18 So he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build greater, and there I will store all my crops and my goods.

19 And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years; take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry.”’

20 But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul will be required of you; then whose will those things be which you have provided?’

21 “So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.”

Do Not Worry

22 Then He said to His disciples, “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; nor about the body, what you will put on. 23 Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing.

24 Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap, which have neither storehouse nor barn; and God feeds them. Of how much more value are you than the birds?

25 And which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?

26 If you then are not able to do the least, why are you anxious for the rest?

27 Consider the lilies, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; and yet I say to you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

28 If then God so clothes the grass, which today is in the field and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, how much more will He clothe you, O you of little faith?

29 “And do not seek what you should eat or what you should drink, nor have an anxious mind.

30 For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows that you need these things.

31 But seek the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added to you.

32 “Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

33 Sell what you have and give alms; provide yourselves money bags which do not grow old, a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches nor moth destroys.

34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

[7:30 PM] Ishtara Raven:

<<< 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

[7:32:14 PM] Thubanis:

Isaiah 52:2-4

2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

3 For thus saith the Lord, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.

4 For thus saith the Lord God, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause.

[7:32:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes that one is good too
[7:32:37 PM] Thubanis:

Isaiah 55:1-3 King James Version (KJV)

1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Revelation 21:5-7

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Revelation 22:16-18

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

[7:33:48 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes 17
[7:34:13 PM] Thubanis: [7:32 PM] Thubanis:

<<<
1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

[7:34:19 PM] Thubanis: I used this before
[7:34:27 PM] Ishtara Raven: God did not say please donate in increments of 60 to 1800 dollars so i can keep my website going blah blah BS
[7:34:32 PM] Thubanis: Lol
[7:35:03 PM] Thubanis: Well add those quotes to your post on MOA
[7:35:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: well XXXX, this Frank O Collins guy poor thing, he just cannot do his 'good' works without donations....
[7:35:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: Do we ask for money?
[7:35:21 PM] Thubanis: It is on floyds as well as thuban
[7:35:53 PM] Ishtara Raven: do the animals ask for reimbursment for eating them?
[7:38:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: but what does someone living in a gated community know of these things
[7:39:22 PM] Thubanis: Right
[7:39:27 PM] Thubanis: Self-Imprisonments
[7:39:53 PM] Thubanis: mental zombiness and gullible exposure to the liars and cheats

Full discussion here:
http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED&fid=C8003AFA-256F-490A-942F-15A004A56BC8&cachecommand=bypass&pageindex=3

Beware of pretenders. I will share this with floyd Tony. This might be a cult, he is unawares of.

Raven

The 'reply' below requires no further commentary to illustrate the deceptive gullibility of the human mind underinformed and undereducated.

(34) Jesus said, "If a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a pit." {Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin}

Aquaries1111

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Aquaries1111 Today at 12:23 pm

WARNING ----WARNING -----WARNING

You CANNOT issue a writ unless you have completed all the necessary steps to reclaim your abandoned Life Estate and (1) complete your will and testament (2) issue the appropriate notices of recording of will (3) letter of executor appointment (4) notice of appointment of General Executor (5) claim of right and notice of claim of right.
If you ignore this warning and continue, then you risk putting yourself in far more serious legal position. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ISSUE A WRIT FROM YOUR ESTATE UNLESS YOU ARE A COMPETENT GENERAL EXECUTOR

[... 8:54:41 AM] Aquaries: Do you want to see what a true Writ of Right looks like?
[... 8:55:52 AM] Aquaries: The Right to issue writs to one or more respondents
By the very function of writs, a General Executor and Sovereign may not issue a writ to one or more respondents that do not possess a relation to the estate, nor are subjects of the estate as in such examples, the estate has no Jurisdiction to issue nor enforce such precepts.

The same applies when a corporation masquerading as an estate issues one or more writs for which it has no authority to issue, nor jurisdiction to enforce. To enforce an illegal and unlawful instrument is a declaration of anarchy and the cessation of Rule of Law. Not even under the Laws of Nations defining armed conflict between peoples is the enforcement of instruments to which there is no jurisdiction or authority considered legal or lawful.

[... 8:55:59 AM] Aquaries: http://globe-union-court.org/info_law_writ/writs_right_introduction.htm
[... 8:57:40 AM] Unknown 2: I am issuing a writ...are you sure this is for me...If it is...then it's Ok I follow what you're saying...
[... 8:57:54 AM] Aquaries: Be careful
[... 8:58:06 AM] Aquaries: about issuing a Writ if you have not claimed your Estate properly
[... 8:58:21 AM] Aquaries: Yes it's for you
[... 8:59:12 AM] Unknown 2: I haven't done any structure yet in regards preliminary filings..
[... 8:59:36 AM] Unknown 2: I wouldn't be in any position I believe at the moment...
[... 9:00:21 AM] Aquaries: Do not file any writs unless you are already in a "case" against your Estate, filed by the Privateers or Corporations.
[... 9:04:18 AM] Unknown 2: I follow...I will acquaint myself as move along...no-thing will be done till I gain the correct comprehension
[... 9:05:12 AM] Aquaries: Very good.. You don't want to find yourself without the "umbrella" of One-Heaven.. Get all your documents filed in One-Heaven as your "support" of being in a "society" that cannot be dismissed by the Roman Cult.. for we are not acting in accordance as a loner..
[... 9:06:18 AM] Aquaries: The Covenant and Canons is "our Law"..
[... 9:06:35 AM] Aquaries: Good.. now keep proceeding like I am with your document uploads
[... 9:06:56 AM] Aquaries: then you will also feel the true power of the next steps you take toward being True General Executor of your Estate
[... 9:07:33 AM] Unknown 2: excellent...will do so as I go along..
[... 9:08:06 AM] Aquaries: The spiritual power you harness then will be beyond anything any court, judge, can deal with.. for your connect is between you and the Divine.. UCA
[... 9:08:08 AM] Aquaries: Ucadia
[... 9:08:34 AM] Aquaries: and your action in document upload to One-Heaven is the "action" for this.
[... 9:08:37 AM] Aquaries: the rest will follow
[... 9:08:39 AM] Aquaries:
[... 9:09:01 AM] Unknown 2: got you!
[... 9:09:51 AM] Aquaries: It's easy to want to rush things and get things moving but one cannot get to Georgia without having all 4 wheels and the engine running.. if you know what eye mean.
[... 9:10:38 AM] Unknown 2: certainly...and a good road map as well
[... 9:11:16 AM] Unknown 2: with all the expenses covered..meaning the homework is done..
[... 9:11:18 AM] Aquaries: One-Heaven is our road map.. Why I want you to not "rush" this and trust all will be in order when you are "ready" with "full powers".
[... 9:12:23 AM] Unknown 2: The Map has already been created...what I meant is that I am here getting a copy for myself..
[... 9:13:22 AM] Unknown 2: pace is very vital...never rush..
[... 9:13:26 AM] Aquaries: Yes and do not get confused with all the other noise going on.. if you are to act, act according to the Law that we subscribe to... The Covenant of One-Heaven and the Canons... This is our law which already has "consumed" the Roman Cult Law.
[... 9:14:01 AM] Unknown 2: I follow...
[... 9:14:43 AM] Aquaries: The Roman Cult will respect us more if they know we are in the jurisdiction of One-heaven and not the Roman Cult.. we can show evidence of such with all of our document uploads when they are done..
[... 9:15:29 AM] Aquaries: all those links if you click on them under Sovereign over my own mind, body and spirit
[... 9:15:32 AM] Aquaries: are evidence
[... 9:15:55 AM] Aquaries: Ambassador for any matters pertaining to my Estate or Person
I. Firstly, I am the duly appointed Apostolic Minister Plenipotentiary (or simply "diplomatic agent") under "Full Powers" for my Estate and Person as Registered in the Manor Roll of the Estate; and
II. Secondly, my Certificate of Credentials clearly demonstrates who I am; and
II. Thirdly, my Proof of Life demonstrates overwhelmingly that I am alive and not a dead, lost or abandoned entity.
[... 9:16:19 AM] Aquaries: We even reference the Covenant
[... 9:16:32 AM] Aquaries: which is
[... 9:16:39 AM] Aquaries: Pactum De Singularis Caelum
[... 9:17:01 AM] Aquaries: They cannot look at us as one man bandits anymore
[... 9:17:04 AM] Aquaries: acting on our own
[... 9:17:18 AM] Aquaries: For we have Divine Powers
[... 9:17:38 AM] Aquaries: in One-Heaven
[... 9:17:52 AM] Aquaries: This is where most of the other group chats fail
[... 9:17:59 AM] Aquaries: they do not have "umbrella"
[... 9:18:02 AM] Aquaries: we do!
[... 9:18:16 AM] Aquaries: This is key factor in any outcome
[... 9:18:25 AM] Aquaries: Why so many will continue to fail
[... 9:18:40 AM] Unknown 2: got you!
[... 9:18:51 AM] Aquaries: Do you?
[... 9:20:28 AM] Unknown 2: UCADIA brought us back to where we should have been from the begining.
[... 9:21:05 AM] Unknown 2: creating a stucture to safeguard what is..
[... 9:21:25 AM] Aquaries: Indeed, back to the Divine.. this is why the Roman Cult System is "consumed".. we know who we are.
[... 9:21:32 AM] Unknown 2: hence preventing any other to interface..
[... 9:22:16 AM] Unknown 2: beautiful
[... 9:22:28 AM] Aquaries: This is bigger than an "individual win".. why we cannot rush to win individually... if we do this right then we potentially affect the outcome for All in a more positive manner.
[... 9:23:12 AM] Unknown 2: you are right...it matters what we do and how we do it...
[... 9:23:27 AM] Aquaries: Exactly, for we do this not just simply to gain for ourselves..
[... 9:23:36 AM] Aquaries: One-Heaven includes All
[... 9:23:44 AM] Aquaries: We do for All
[... 9:23:49 AM] Aquaries: of Us
[... 9:24:02 AM] Unknown 2: parfait!
[... 9:24:10 AM] Aquaries: I know you "get it"
[... 9:24:22 AM] Aquaries: I just had to reel you in a little bit
[... 9:24:25 AM] Aquaries: Hope you don't mind
[... 9:24:29 AM] Aquaries: Spirit moved me
[... 9:24:31 AM] Aquaries:
[... 9:24:59 AM] Unknown 2: not at all...the discourse sets it even the more..
[... 9:25:18 AM] Aquaries: Do not spread that Writ toward people who are incompetant
[... 9:25:22 AM] Aquaries: it can do more damage than good
[... 9:25:54 AM] Unknown 2: I can't share anyting at the moment..I have not graduated yet..
[... 9:26:19 AM] Aquaries: Exactly.. let's focus on getting all of our documents uploaded, for we HAVE made the commitment.
[... 9:26:25 AM] Aquaries: To getting this done right.
[... 9:26:37 AM] Unknown 2: you got it..
[... 9:26:44 AM] Aquaries: It is up to each individual then to do their own homework
[... 9:26:48 AM] Aquaries: they need not be spoonfed
[... 9:26:53 AM] Aquaries: If they want this
[... 9:26:58 AM] Aquaries: they will take their action.
[... 9:27:11 AM] Aquaries: You just happened to land in the right lap
[... 9:27:47 AM] Aquaries: They need to "embody" One-Heaven.. it is not our job to "convince them".
[... 9:30:01 AM] Aquaries: Yes.. "Embody" One-Heaven and you will "know".
[... 9:30:06 AM] Aquaries: Read the Covenant
[... 9:30:10 AM] Aquaries: Journey of Self
[... 9:30:11 AM] Aquaries: as said
[... 9:30:14 AM] Aquaries: and Canons
[... 9:30:25 AM] Unknown 2: right... will do
[... 9:31:13 AM] Unknown 2: I began that one didn't I?
[... 9:31:36 AM] Unknown 2: I am on page 100 something
[... 9:31:38 AM] Aquaries: This journey cannot be accomplished in a day.. climbing a mountain takes preparation.. Food takes preparation.. It is all in the "preparation".. Ever painted the inside of a room? It takes more work to prep than it does to paint..
[... 9:32:22 AM] Unknown 2: got you!or I follow I should say..
[... 9:33:32 AM] Aquaries: The beauty of the artwork then can be displayed more beautifully.. Yes you do!
[... 9:33:59 AM] Aquaries: No sloppy paint drops on the carpet
[... 9:34:20 AM] Aquaries: Covered in prep.
[... 9:34:47 AM] Unknown 2: got it!
[... 10:48:19 AM] Aquaries: I have 45 minutes then I need to get moving
[... 10:49:51 AM] Unknown 2: are you ready to take taylor to the attraction..?
[... 10:50:12 AM] Aquaries: They're coming here around 12.15pm to pick me up.
[... 10:50:57 AM] Unknown 2: ok...I guess you have just a few minutes left...
[... 10:53:48 AM] Unknown 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKRlTTO6JjY&feature=player_detailpage#t=95s
[... 10:54:24 AM] Unknown 2: the sound isn't that great...but I watched most of it...
[... 10:56:50 AM] Aquaries: Nice
[... 10:57:13 AM] Unknown 2: isn't it?
[... 10:57:30 AM] Aquaries: Yes
[... 10:57:42 AM] Unknown 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7koXW5V_Q
[... 10:57:48 AM] Unknown 2: 2mn
[... 11:01:28 AM] Unknown 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-DhISwiIVU
[... 11:02:59 AM] Unknown 2: "You know better than I"
[... 11:03:13 AM] Aquaries: "You know the Way"
[... 11:04:38 AM] Unknown 2: " have I not come to know the way?"
[... 11:04:51 AM] Aquaries: "You Are The Way"
[... 11:05:00 AM] Aquaries: Always were
[... 11:05:46 AM] Unknown 2: " You bear the Truth, and all-ways will"
[... 11:07:14 AM] Aquaries: You process a new soup having digested all the elements in a Carrot, Potato, Celery Stick and a drop of oil.
[... 11:07:53 AM] Aquaries: Virgin
[... 11:08:55 AM] Unknown 2: you gathered the ingridients so that the possibilites may be had...
[... 11:09:35 AM] Aquaries: A conduit I am to shine the light in the shady corners of all 4.
[... 11:10:27 AM] Unknown 2: A vessel am I not to express what may become.?.
[... 11:11:41 AM] Aquaries: Yes indeed, a vessel and a conduit to share and relish in the Divine Beauty, Divine Grace, Divine Being and Becoming all that you Are, and were.. in the annals of Mind.
[... 11:12:23 AM] Aquaries: Divine Mind
[... 11:15:12 AM] Unknown 2: The Divine Mind that led me on to your door step...to share and relish indeed Grace divine, Beauty and atonement..without which the bliss we could not share.
[... 11:20:21 AM] Unknown 2: A oneness that may only be equated to the vibrations that surpasses our earthly frame...L_iving O_nly V_eritable E_xtasy...
[... 11:24:56 AM] Aquaries: No more being alone, no more seeing only Eye, but being as We in the togetherness as Equals in Love, Equals in Heart, Equals in Divine Mind, sharing with unique awareness all of the delights that beautiful Earth bestows us so we can Live, Love and create more Beauty than she has ever known... Raising All to the Joy that we forgot to play a game of chess where there is a Winner and a Loser.. No more Chess Games, no more Checker Boards, no more pain, no more separation and no more fear! Let us embrace the unknown in knowing Life is a Beautiful Gift with many corridors yet to traverse in wonderment and Bliss in Peace, Harmony, Balance, Joy and Love.
[... 11:25:47 AM] Aquaries: So Be it.
[... 11:34:29 AM] Unknown 2: How else could It have been said ? What must I add? How to attain... weren't it not conveyed with mercy? Well done...the call we seek...and for a cause to our cause..a state of gratitude will forever remain our crave..
[... 11:53:43 AM] Unknown 2: may you cheerful be wherever your path may lead... the ramainder of this day... May my warmth and love be felt within the deepest and most cherished parts of your frame.. (hug).I am you and you are me (hug)...
[... 2:14:20 PM] Unknown 2: Desire is the one Power Source Potent Enough to bring about change...~author unknown~

If the blind ones could just understand their own mutterings and messages from the cosmic jurisprudence..

“I dreamed I spoke in another’s language,
I dreamed I lived in another’s skin,
I dreamed I was my own beloved,
I dreamed I was a tiger’s kin.

I dreamed that Eden lived inside me,
And when I breathed a garden came,
I dreamed I knew all of Creation,
I dreamed I knew the Creator’s name.

I dreamed–and this dream was the finest–
That all I dreamed was real and true,
And we would live in joy forever,
You in me, and me in you.”

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Strangest freeman on the land movement I have ever seen

Strangest freeman on the land movement I have ever seen

Where no two people are likely to agree.

Post #1 by zola » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:00 am
I have not seen a lot of threads on this forum that have discussed the freeman on the land movement (unless I habe not looked properly), so I just want to show what could be the strangets Freeman movement I have ever come across.

So there is this guy called Frank O'Collins who is a big advocate of the freeman movement and has his own radio show. Yet he also seems to have some sort of Christian apocalyptic sentiment. He claims that on the 21st of this month., Judgement day will come, and the first thing that will happen? To eliminate the corrupt courts!

Anyway the video in question concerns a woman he met that had a "vision". Apparently when the great day of awekening arrives, the dead start rising and we see the arrival of the almighty spirits, the first thing they will do iscome and sort her court case out from the corruption! Seriously, its really weird, even for the freeman movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JfVuHNd ... r_embedded

And this guy has his own website where he actually has written some covenant that is suppose to be all ancient and mystical -

http://one-heaven.org/home.asp
http://university.ucadia.info/page.php?9

Post #2 by Matthew Ellard » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:14 am

Hi Zola. Where are you located and practice accounting? There is something familiar about your posts.

The video, on YouTube says the world is going to end in thirty days but is dated November 2011. What is even odder is that the narrator is an Australian author Frank O'Collins who is promoting his latest book. One wonder how he is going to pick up his royalties and why he is talking about the American court system.

http://www.ucadia.com/frank/frank.htm

Post #3 by Flash » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:59 am
Zola wrote:

Anyway the video in question concerns a woman he met that had a "vision". Apparently when the great day of awekening arrives, the dead start rising and we see the arrival of the almighty spirits, the first thing they will do iscome and sort her court case out from the corruption! Seriously, its really weird, even for the freeman movement.

Weird? It's pathologically crazy. Why is it that certifiable lunatics get to publish books, and broadcast their lunatic ideas on radio or TV with such an ease?
Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me.

Post #4 by Gord » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:22 am

Flash wrote: Zola wrote:

Anyway the video in question concerns a woman he met that had a "vision". Apparently when the great day of awekening arrives, the dead start rising and we see the arrival of the almighty spirits, the first thing they will do iscome and sort her court case out from the corruption! Seriously, its really weird, even for the freeman movement.

Weird? It's pathologically crazy. Why is it that certifiable lunatics get to publish books, and broadcast their lunatic ideas on radio or TV with such an ease?

Freedom of babble.

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Post#5 by Flash » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:32 am

Gord wrote:

Freedom of babble.

Yes, we've got the bubblocracy. Careers and big money are being made as we speak on talentless bubbling, just look at the Kardashian phenomenon.
Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me.

Post #6 by zola » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:01 am
I manage to find a thread at Randi http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php? ... c&t=200370. They do a better job at explaining it then I could ever do. Enjoy the moonshine.

Post #7 by Matthew Ellard » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:32 am
zola wrote:I manage to find a thread at Randi http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php? ... c&t=200370. They do a better job at explaining it then I could ever do. Enjoy the moonshine.

cestui que vie was the give away. Frank O'Collins is misinterpreting a Elizabethan trust law document from the period after when churches attempted to settle tenant farmer properties for the benefit of others, in trust, to avoid the land going to the crown. Read the extract on the opening JREF post with this in mind and it makes sense.

Cestui Que Vie Act 1666
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Cha2/18-19/11

Frank O'Collins was a loon who charged money pretending he could find loopholes but never goes to court to do so. He has obviously gone spiritual.

Post #8 by zola » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:51 pm
Oh god, he seems to have a big following with the new age movement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k6AZTkz ... er&list=UL

Post #9 by Gord » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:18 pm

zola wrote:Oh god, he seems to have a big following with the new age movement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k6AZTkz ... er&list=UL

Waste. Of. Time.

Shouldn't you be out working or something?
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Post #10 by citizenschallenge » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:42 am
Gord wrote:
zola wrote:Oh god, he seems to have a big following with the new age movement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k6AZTkz ... er&list=UL
Waste. Of. Time.

Shouldn't you be out working or something?

I was going to pipe in - but you know man, you nailed my sentiments exactly. Fortunately, I do have plenty of work these days
but that means, no time to post... to the relief of some of my pals I'm sure.

So tell me Gord, Getting back on topic here, I'm not particularly familiar with this 'freeman' thing. What can ya tell me

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The AGW consensus IS compelled by the evidence.
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Post #11 by Gord » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:04 am
citizenschallenge wrote:So tell me Gord, Getting back on topic here, I'm not particularly familiar with this 'freeman' thing. What can ya tell me

The topic doesn't matter, it's the original poster that's flippin' nutsoloony.
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Post #12 by fromthehills » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:40 am

Gord wrote:citizenschallenge wrote:So tell me Gord, Getting back on topic here, I'm not particularly familiar with this 'freeman' thing. What can ya tell me

The topic doesn't matter, it's the original poster that's flippin' nutsoloony.

Personally attacking the OP doesn't make the argument invalid.

Post #13 by Gord » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:04 pm
fromthehills wrote:Gord wrote:citizenschallenge wrote:
So tell me Gord, Getting back on topic here, I'm not particularly familiar with this 'freeman' thing. What can ya tell me

The topic doesn't matter, it's the original poster that's flippin' nutsoloony.

Personally attacking the OP doesn't make the argument invalid.

Making the argument valid won't fix stupid.

"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site

"You are also taking my words out of context." -- Justin

Post #14 by citizenschallenge » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:42 pm
Gord wrote:citizenschallenge wrote:
So tell me Gord, Getting back on topic here, I'm not particularly familiar with this 'freeman' thing. What can ya tell me

The topic doesn't matter, it's the original poster that's flippin' nutsoloony.

Well yea, that's why I decided not to waste my time posting on it after looking at it.
I was just wondering about the freeman movement in general,
which I actually don't know squat about...
other than... perhaps it being merely any other example of the slow maturation of
our global hominid rat-over population experiment that society has been conducting.
The AGW consensus is NOT formed by scientists.
The AGW consensus IS compelled by the evidence.
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http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=17443

10th February 2011, 02:41 PM #1

tsig
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Cestui que vie act of 1666

During the freeman discussions the Ucadia group was discussed, this thread is for that discussion.

Here is a sample:

X1Recital that Cestui que vies have gone beyond Sea, and that Reversioners cannot find out whether they are alive or dead.
Whereas diverse Lords of Mannours and others have granted Estates by Lease for one or more life or lives, or else for yeares determinable upon one or more life or lives And it hath often happened that such person or persons for whose life or lives such Estates have beene granted have gone beyond the Seas or soe absented themselves for many yeares that the Lessors and Reversioners cannot finde out whether such person or persons be alive or dead by reason whereof such Lessors and Reversioners have beene held out of possession of their Tenements for many yeares after all the lives upon which such Estates depend are dead in regard that the Lessors and Reversioners when they have brought Actions for the recovery of their Tenements have beene putt upon it to prove the death of their Tennants when it is almost impossible for them to discover the same, For remedy of which mischeife soe frequently happening to such Lessors or Reversioners.

Cestui que vie remaining beyond Sea for Seven Years together and no Proof of their Lives, Judge in Action to direct a Verdict as though Cestui que vie were dead
If such person or persons for whose life or lives such Estates have beene or shall be granted as aforesaid shall remaine beyond the Seas or elsewhere absent themselves in this Realme by the space of seaven yeares together and noe sufficient and evident proofe be made of the lives of such person or persons respectively in any Action commenced for recovery of such Tenements by the Lessors or Reversioners in every such case the person or persons upon whose life or lives such Estate depended shall be accounted as naturally dead, And in every Action brought for the recovery of the said Tenements by the Lessors or Reversioners their Heires or Assignes, the Judges before whom such Action shall be brought shall direct the Jury to give their Verdict as if the person soe remaining beyond the Seas or otherwise absenting himselfe were dead

So, in my current vernacular and typical speech patterns, it appears, that in 1666, the English Government passed an Act called The Cestui que vie Act which declared everyone legally missing or dead. And if after 7 years from their registered birth date they still haven't told the government they are not missing or dead, the government will just consider them dead and no longer missing.

To the forums:

http://university.ucadia.info/e107_p...pic.php?830.10

To the site:

http://one-heaven.org/home.asp

10th February 2011, 11:06 PM #2

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They never get that one right, any half right thinking person reading the act can clearly understand what its about.
You have to be a bit silly to come up with any other explanation.

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11th February 2011, 02:43 AM #3

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Quote:
So, in my current vernacular and typical speech patterns

A flawless approach to understanding a legal document written in 1666.

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11th February 2011, 03:20 AM #4

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Anyone have a link to what appears to be the earliest corruption of the meaning of this Act?

I believe demonstrating the fault in the original premise is a good approach in trying to get people to think about what they are believing.

11th February 2011, 04:05 AM #5

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Originally Posted by jargon buster
They never get that one right, any half right thinking person reading the act can clearly understand what its about.
You have to be a bit silly to come up with any other explanation.
Long exhausted sigh

The CQVA 1666 clearly does what is say on the tin - ie provides a remedy for the heirs of missing persons & nothing more. It is NOT a cunning device created by a sneaky Pope to put the population of the world into a state perpetual servitude.

The UCADIA interpretation is clearly massively flawed. It was passed into law in England in 1666. The UCADIAN's have conveniently brushed the not insignificant matter of the Reformation under the carpet. The average Englishman of 1666 had a not dissimilar attitude towards Catholicism & the Papacy as a particulary rabid Ulster loyalist (think 'Dr' Ian Paisely). The idea that the English legislative process was influenced by the Vatican is 'frankly' idiotic.

Furthermore, it's a bit of English statutory law & has no application in mainland europe or elsewhere (except perhaps the US which was an English colony in those days)

The thing is that O'Collins has created UCADIA with 2 presumptions:-

1) Everyone in the world has for a long time been secretly enslaved by a evil cabal of conspirators (Venetians, Khazaks & of course the Papacy).

2) A new order needs to be instituted & surprise, suprise it's to be designed by O'Collins.

He then had to construct a narrative & philosophy that fitted his rigid world view & egotism. He would have absolutely found no evidence to bolster his conspiracy theory in the conventional narrative of European / Papal history & so has to 'warp' the material he has to hand.

11th February 2011, 04:33 AM #6

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Its baffling to think that OCollins could have actually done something constructive and worthwhile with the time he has clearly wasted on this Ucadia nonsense.
The amount of hours he must have put into the site is mindboggling, and for what?
To attract a few halfwits who cant think or decide something for themselves.
Oh and have yozhik as a bezzie mate (the last one would have been the clincher as to if I went live with the site or not)

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11th February 2011, 04:49 AM #7

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Originally Posted by jargon buster
Its baffling to think that OCollins could have actually done something constructive and worthwhile with the time he has clearly wasted on this Ucadia nonsense.
The amount of hours he must have put into the site is mindboggling, and for what?
To attract a few halfwits who cant think or decide something for themselves.
Oh and have yozhik as a bezzie mate (the last one would have been the clincher as to if I went live with the site or not)

He claims he was a staffer for an Australian Politician & has developed lucrative software with business applications on the self absorbed bio section on the UCADIA website.

The fact of the matter is O'Collins is seriously bad news. He's 'helping' people with foreclosure cases (according to one of his lickspittles on the UCADIA forum which is allegedly why he can't reply to questions in person) - we all know which way those cases are going to go. Another case of a legal conspiracy theory 'Guru' sending the desperate & vulnerable to their dooms with absurd quasi legal documents & arguments. I don't mind or care about the Lucifer rubbish or his UCADIA world reorganisation fantasies - that's harmless (& kinda funny) but when he's getting involved in ongoing legal disputes & wrecking people lives for his own vanity then it's open season.

11th February 2011, 05:12 AM #8

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Quote:
Another case of a legal conspiracy theory 'Guru' sending the desperate & vulnerable to their dooms with absurd quasi legal documents & arguments. I don't mind or care about the Lucifer rubbish or his UCADIA world reorganisation fantasies - that's harmless (& kinda funny) but when he's getting involved in ongoing legal disputes & wrecking people lives for his own vanity then it's open season.
YOU HAVE REKINDLED MY ENTHUSIASM

I feel I need a puppet on Ucadia

poopr twister/ralfy has already lost a life on Ucadia because they thought he was me.
Just wait until I get into yozhiks ribs over there.

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11th February 2011, 05:27 AM #9

gtm
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Originally Posted by jargon buster
YOU HAVE REKINDLED MY ENTHUSIASM

I feel I need a puppet on Ucadia

poopr twister/ralfy has already lost a life on Ucadia because they thought he was me.
Just wait until I get into yozhiks ribs over there.

You won't last 10 minutes - most of the posters are moderators & they'll bin you as soon as you start asking difficult questions.

Did you notice this?

http://university.ucadia.info/e107_p...wtopic.php?811

UCADIA Montreal Workshop. No wonder Menard hates Brian T Collins. A rival 'Guru' competing for followers in Canada. that's far too close to home

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137758

I love when they squabble.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=33b461d768db05272e037a064aef4a1c&t=200370

11th February 2011, 06:59 AM #10

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I recently had a case involving asset forfeiture. In the past, the State was required to seize assets pursuant to the criminal case, meaning they needed to obey individual due process requirement and obtain convictions before they could take the cars and other items used in the crime.

When the "War on Drugs" started, this procedure proved to be too cumbersome, so they used this bizarre combination of maritiem and admiralty law and various statutes spread out all over the Federal Codes to use civil law to seize assets. Here's one of the laws I was reading:

http://openjurist.org/title-28/us-co...nd-asset-forfe

Now, the really odd thing is that to use these rules, the government files against the property, itself. THus, you receive filings with headings that look like this:

United States of America,
Plaintiff,

v.

Ford Explorer, License #_____
Defendant.

They refer to the "defendant property" throughout. Obviously a car doesn't have Constitutional rights, so the seizures become much easier to obtain.

Obviously there's legitimacy to the idea, though the process is bizarre. But the relevant point to this discussion is that in reading this tangled web of laws in order to figure out what I had to prove to get my client's car back, I read the strangest, least cogent statutory structure outside of the Medicare law.

I think I could really easily produce Freeman on the Land mythos. You guys keep your eyes open, if I get a little time and someone lets me use some 'shrooms, I think I'm going to delve into the Supplemental Rules for Admiralty or Maritime Claims and Asset Forfeiture and an incomprehensible, badass exegesis on the law that means none of us will ever have to pay a parking ticket again.

11th February 2011, 08:09 AM #11

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I like the idea that we could be all "enslaved" to the pope in a way in which we don't even know about it. We're free to go about our lives, we live in liberal democratic societies, we don't pay any money to the pope, we travel around freely, we are not forced to do any work, we can enforce individual rights through the court, we have social programs designed for ou benefit, etc. Turns out being a slave isn't all bad.

11th February 2011, 08:32 AM #12

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Originally Posted by JLord
I like the idea that we could be all "enslaved" to the pope in a way in which we don't even know about it. We're free to go about our lives, we live in liberal democratic societies, we don't pay any money to the pope, we travel around freely, we are not forced to do any work, we can enforce individual rights through the court, we have social programs designed for ou benefit, etc. Turns out being a slave isn't all bad.
{C}Herewith Frank O'Collins explanation for our slavery:

I. A World of Slavery
i. You are a slave, just as your parents, your grandparents and great grandparents were slaves. You may be lucky enough to live in a pleasant plantation with other slaves, managed by overseer slaves such as police, judges, doctors and politicians where few examples of slave cruelty occur. Or you may be witnessing changes in the community plantation, which is part of a state slave plantation and national slave plantation where there is more crime, more misery and death. The fact that you are a slave is unquestionable. The only unknown is whether you will permit your children and their children to also grow up as slaves; and
ii. You are a slave because you live under slave law, also called Commercial Law and Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC) first introduced in 1933 and based upon the ancient principles of Sumerian slave law enshrined in the Ur-Nammu Code of 1900 BCE that “all crime against slaves is commercial”. Under the UCC Slave Laws applied to all nations as corporations registered in the state of Delaware of the United States, corporations hold no real property, only debt and the energy of slaves, with you considered an employee of a corporation and its surety as evidenced by the certified copy of the birth certificate which you hold, but can never own; and
iii. Therefore under the UCC Slave Laws which most slave plantations of the world operate you can never own a house, even though they trick into believing you do; you never really own a car, or boat or any other object, only have the benefit of use. Indeed, you do not even own your own body, which is claimed to have been lawfully gifted by your parents at your birth in the traditions of old slave contracts in which the slave baby had its feet or hands dipped in ink, or a drop of blood spilt on the commercial transaction document we know as the live birth record; and
iv. You may not realize you are a slave under the slave laws of Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC), but may still erroneously believe you are slave with “more rights” as used to be afforded under “Common Law” until it was largely abolished back in 1933 without properly telling you. The word “common” comes from 14th Century Latin communis meaning "to entrust, commit to a burden, public duty, service or obligation". The word was created from the combination of two ancient pre-Vatican Latin words com/comitto = "to entrust, commit" and munis = "burden, public duty, service or obligation". In other words, the real meaning of common as first formed because of the creation of the Roman Trust over the planet is the concept of “voluntary servitude” or simply “voluntary enslavement”; and
v. Common Law is nothing more than the laws of “voluntary servitude” and the laws of “voluntary slavery” to the Roman Cult and the Venetian Slavemasters. It is the job of the overseer slaves to convince you that you are not slaves, the common law still exists and has not been largely abolished and replaced with commercial law, to confuse you, to give you false hope. In return, they are rewarded as loyal slaves with bigger homes to use and more privileges than other slaves; and
vi. The reason why the overseer slaves such as judges, politicians, bankers, actors and media personalities are forced to lie and deny we are all slaves is because the slave system of voluntary servitude or “common law” was not the first global slave system, but merely its evolution. Before the emergence of Common Law, we were all subject to being considered mere animals or things under Canon Law of the Roman Cult, also known as the Law of the See, or Admiralty Law; and
vii. Under Admiralty Law, you are either a slave of the ship of state, or merely cargo for lawful salvage. Thus in 1302 through Unam Sanctam, the Roman Cult unlawfully claimed through trust the ownership of all the planet and all living "things" as either slaves, or less than slaves with things administered through the Court of Rota. This court, claimed as the Supreme Court of all Courts on the planet was initially abolished in the 16th Century only to be returned in 1908 under Pope Pius X as a purely spiritual ecclesiastical court of 12 "apostolic prothonotary" spirits, implying the twelve apostles. Since then, this new purely spiritual court has remained in constant "session", with the local courts using these powers to administer Divine Immortal Spirits expressed in Trust into Flesh Vessels as mere dead things ; and
viii. Yet this is not the only form of slave law still in force today. Instead, the oldest, the most evil are based on the false history of the slave laws of the Menesheh, also known as the Rabbi through the unholy document of hate, first formed in 333 known as the Talmud of the Menesheh- the false Israelites. Through the Talmud of the false Israelites, the whole planet is enslaved with the servants of the “chosen people” known as Caananites or K-nights (Knights) also known as the Scythians and then the rest as the goy/gyu and goyim – namely meaning the cattle, the dead lifeless corpses; and
ix. The truth known by those who claim to rule and by those who loyally serve such pretenders is that the world has been enslaved for many hundreds of years, without respite until now.

II. A prison designed with no way out
i. Before this time, the system of global slavery and the treatment of the world as one large slave plantation was designed so there is no way out – as evidenced through the courts of the priests of Ba’al known as the judges of most legal systems in the world; and
ii. Even the most educated of men and women may remain tricked into believing that upon self-representation they may claim their “common law rights” as means of defense, only to find the judge unlawfully rejects any and all claims. As the first law of the courts is the Uniform Commercial Codes of slavery as introduced in 1933, the defendant is an employee of a corporation and therefore automatically assumes the liability of any injury. Unless they can pay, they may be sent to prison; and
iii. If such a trickster as the judge is challenged, they are permitted to escape to their chambers and call upon even greater power to return and magically establish a new court, without telling the defendant they have now entered Admiralty Court, or the laws of the See in accordance with Canon Law of the Roman Cult issued in 1983. Now the judge can impose grave penalties upon such an unresponsive defendant including contempt of court and other punitive prison sentences, with the defendant having no rights unless they know Canon Law concerning juridical persons and establishing standing above being called a “thing”; and
iv. Sadly, few people actually know the original meaning of "thing" as a judicial meeting, or assembly; a matter brought before a court of law; a legal process; a charge brought; or a suit or cause pleaded before a court. This meaning is then used with devastating effect through the heretical concept of Pius X from 1908 to claim the dead apostles sit in permanent and open session as the "twelve prothonotaries" of the Sacred Rota - as the highest Supreme Court on the planet. So when a man or woman receives a blue or yellow notice from a court issued through this unholy knowledge of Canon law, by the time they come to court, they are automatically a thing. When a man or woman seeks to defend themselves by seeking to speak before the judge, they automatically "consent" to being a thing. Thus a judge with knowledge of such trickery can silence any man or woman by "lawfully" threatening contempt of court if the "thing" does not stop making noise; and
v. Indeed, it is the Roman Cult Canon Law of 1983 that establishes all courts are oratories, with judges holding ecclesiastical powers as “ordinaries” and their chambers as “chapels”. Thus the Bar Associations around the world have assisted judges in learning of their new powers in order to counteract those men and women who continue to wake up to their status as slaves, but demonstrating how to remain “in honor” with such perverse law and ensure such “terrorists” are sent to prison for long sentences as a warning to others; and
vi. If a judge is so inclined to ensure an educated defendant is legally sent to prison or worse, he or she may run away for a third and final time to their chamber and invoke their most powerful standing as rabbi of a Talmud Court under the Talmudic Laws of the false Israelites of the House of the twelve tribes of Menesheh. Now, even a judge in a nation that is against the death penalty may choose to impose a “legal” sentence against any goy/gyu or goyim who dares injure an Israelite – which is normally death. However, while judges in the United States and other nations have started to be trained in the re-imposition of Talmudic Law, it is at the hands of the false Menesheh, also known as the Scythians, also known as the Black Khazars and now the Ashkenazi; and
vii. The training that has been given to judges and lawyers of the Bar Associations by the Ashkenazi Rabbi is false, flawed and has no spiritual or lawful basis. It is the Ashkenazi Rabbi and their families of bankers, industrialists and slave traders who were responsible for breaking the sacred covenant of the Talmud in the unlawful sacrifice of millions possessing the blood of the Menesheh by fire in World War II, the unlawful creation of the state of Israel and the ultimate breach of the covenant in creating the new covenant of the United Nations which they claim control; and
viii. Indeed, these arrogant, ignorant and blind rabbi and families openly proclaim themselves as “Jews” – a word mysteriously introduced in the 16th Century by real Menesheh rabbi. As the true definition of “jew” is goy/gyu and goyim, it is the false Menesheh, being the Scythians, also known as the Ashkenazi who are the self confessed heretics and the rest of us who are the true Israelites; and
ix. In spite of the truth, in spite of their own laws they will continue to refuse to yield, for they have claimed control of a system designed so that no one escapes, in which no one is free and the whole world remains enslaved.

III. The true origins of the Scythians also known as the Askhenazi
i. Every narrative that has stood the test of time contains at least some grains of truth sown through it. The Scythian is an ancient Greek term applied to the many nomadic tribes, whose origin is from the Kazak Mountains and around the Caspian Sea in central Asia and at one time by the 6th Century BCE, dominated an area stretching more than 2,000 miles from the Ukraine to Mongolia. They were never worshippers of Ba’al Moloch, also known as Satan, Sabaoth, The Devil and Lucifer – therefore they were never Sarmatian until the 7th Century CE. Nor were the Scythians ever descended from the Israelites or adherents to the traditions of the Yahud and Messiah Kings – only to begin pretending to follow the Talmud upon their conversion to worshipping dark forces and evil in the 7th Century; and
ii. The Sarmatian priest class known as the House of Menesheh were well acquainted with the leaders of the Scythians and when their kingdom was smashed by the Byzantines, they sought refuge in the lands of the Scythians. Upon the arrival of the great plagues that killed one in two of the population of the known world, the Menesheh became the great “White Khazars” and gods of the Scythian tribes, while the leaders of the Scythians were relegated to the lesser bonded “knights” known as the “black khazars”; and
iii. It was this subservient role that many of the Scythian tribes continued to honor, including their most famous hero Genghis Khan who subjugated most of the known world, but was never permitted to enter Jerusalem. As the Khazarian empires broke up, some converting to Islam and others shifted Westward and North into Russia created the great empire of Sarmatia, the Scythians followed as the loyal bonded servants to their “white khazar” overlords; and
iv. By the twelfth century, the term Ashkenazi first appeared to define these recent converts to Sarmatianism and the worship of demons, who were never true blood descendents of the Menesheh and never true Israelites. The word comes from three Hebrew words ash meaning fire (in this case spiritual fire), ke meaning (like a) and nazi meaning prince/elevated (initiated) one – hence Ashkenazi meaning literally “spiritual fire/faith like a true initiated one”. Thus, the name is proof the Scythian descendents even in the twelfth century knew they were less than their overlords, the blood descendents of the Menesheh; and
v. Yet by the sixteenth century, the Scythian descendents, now known as the Ashkenazi or simply the slang term “nazis” began to show their disapproval and rebellion against their former “masters”. By the nineteenth century, the Ashkenazi merchants, bankers, and traders were in open rebellion against their traditional lords, who themselves were never true Israelites. Then in the twentieth century, the Ashkenazi devised an ingenious and unholy plan to sacrifice the ignorant and unknowing descendents of the Menesheh and manufacture the end of the Covenant of the Talmud in exchange for creating their own new covenant in the form of the United Nations, the creation of the state of Israel which they would control and the global commercial banking system; and
vi. Thus the events known as the Holocaust during World War II took place, permitting the Scythians/Ashkenazi to perform their heresy against the faith they claim to follow. But through the deliberate sacrifice of millions through fire, the Scythian/Ashkenazi money lenders concocted and even more appalling scheme – they stole the names, the ancestry and persona of hundreds of thousands of true descendents of the Menesheh and “white khazars”, switching names on lists so that those burnt alive were the true Menesheh, while those that travelled under false passports and papers prepared by the Vatican and its agents were the Scythian/Ashkenazi tricksters. Thus architecting the greatest identity theft in history – aided and abetted by the Vatican took place in a further historic breach against the Covenant of the Talmud. Since then, all major world events have largely revolved around these Scythian/Ashkenazi descendents and their complete incompetence as trustees for those who themselves claim to control the world; and
vii.These are the people that claim to run the world today- their names are stolen from people their parents and grandparents helped murder; they pretend to follow the Talmud, but really seek to protect their precious covenant of the United Nations; they believe in nothing and no one; they seek to feed off the work of others and promote ignorance amongst all but a few; they were never the true Menesheh; and the heirs to the Covenant within the Talmud and they definitely were never true Yahud and true Israelites.

IV. Liars and thieves who will never yield power
i.When faced with the reality that much of the fate of the world is in the hands of a few families of people who are founded on lies, cannot speak anything else but lies, believe in nothing and seek to control everything – we are speaking about liars and thieves who will never yield power, despite overwhelming signs of divine protest; and
ii.Simply, these people do not fear divine retribution from the Divine Creator of all, nor from Satan/Moloch/Lucifer for their historic act of heresy against the Talmud, because they don’t really believe there is either a God or a dark force. Instead, they believe all these things to be the creation of the collective imagination of people throughout the ages- a tool to be manipulated, to be corrupted for their own benefit; and
iii.Even when these liars and thieves will be caught out in their own courts, they will not be moved – except to vomit forth more lies and propaganda on how they are being persecuted, how such revelation of truth is anti-semitic- when they are not even true Israelites, nor those mentioned as the Chosen People of the Covenant of the Talmud; and
iv.While remedy and forgiveness has been offered to them, in spite of their horrible crimes against humanity, they will find ways to delay, to try and negotiate, to twist and turn because they truly believe themselves to be smarter than the rest of the world, whilst the rest of the world remains chained to faith, to belief and to common ideas of decency; and
v.Therefore, it remains improbable that the leaders of such people will relinquish that which they have stolen- instead preferring to burn and destroy that which they can no longer control. It rests then with those few who know the truth and have the power to stop these insane pretenders, lest the world suffer any more harm from their madness ; and
vi.If the world can be saved from any more of their harm, then let the models of fairness, freedom, equality, justice, empathy and compassion spread across the world and truly herald in the age promised to all.

Therefore upon this Pronouncement, warranted by Our Right, upon necessity, We invoke both our free domain of agency and these Rights for Ourselves and for and on behalf of all men and women, living or deceased, with the considerate judgment of all men and women living and deceased and the gracious favor of the Divine Creator; and
We hereby give life and personality to this sacred irrevocable Deed through Our seal in Our blood; and
As it is written, so let it be done! let it be done! let it be done

hmmmm.

11th February 2011, 09:09 AM #13

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Does anybody have any idea what prompted O'Collins to start this adventure?
We know that Menard had his nose bloodied by the state when his child was removed which appears to have set him on his path of being anti government and attempting to remove himself from society, but what drove O'Collins? AS JB has said, O'Collins has put an awful amount of his time into this.
And, what is his obsession with Rome all about?
Perhaps he was once cut up by somebody driving a Fiat?

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11th February 2011, 09:19 AM #14

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Perhaps he was once cut up by somebody a priest driving a Fiat(insert as applicable) up his back passage.

Fixed that for you

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11th February 2011, 10:30 AM #15

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Originally Posted by gtm
Herewith Frank O'Collins explanation for our slavery:

I. A World of Slavery
i. You are a slave, just as your parents, your grandparents and great grandparents were slaves. You may be lucky enough to live in a pleasant plantation with other slaves, managed by overseer slaves such as police, judges, doctors and politicians where few examples of slave cruelty occur. Or you may be witnessing changes in the community plantation, which is part of a state slave plantation and national slave plantation where there is more crime, more misery and death. The fact that you are a slave is unquestionable. The only unknown is whether you will permit your children and their children to also grow up as slaves; and
ii. You are a slave because you live under slave law, also called Commercial Law and Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC) first introduced in 1933 and based upon the ancient principles of Sumerian slave law enshrined in the Ur-Nammu Code of 1900 BCE that “all crime against slaves is commercial”. Under the UCC Slave Laws applied to all nations as corporations registered in the state of Delaware of the United States, corporations hold no real property, only debt and the energy of slaves, with you considered an employee of a corporation and its surety as evidenced by the certified copy of the birth certificate which you hold, but can never own; and
iii. Therefore under the UCC Slave Laws which most slave plantations of the world operate you can never own a house, even though they trick into believing you do; you never really own a car, or boat or any other object, only have the benefit of use. Indeed, you do not even own your own body, which is claimed to have been lawfully gifted by your parents at your birth in the traditions of old slave contracts in which the slave baby had its feet or hands dipped in ink, or a drop of blood spilt on the commercial transaction document we know as the live birth record; and
iv. You may not realize you are a slave under the slave laws of Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC), but may still erroneously believe you are slave with “more rights” as used to be afforded under “Common Law” until it was largely abolished back in 1933 without properly telling you. The word “common” comes from 14th Century Latin communis meaning "to entrust, commit to a burden, public duty, service or obligation". The word was created from the combination of two ancient pre-Vatican Latin words com/comitto = "to entrust, commit" and munis = "burden, public duty, service or obligation". In other words, the real meaning of common as first formed because of the creation of the Roman Trust over the planet is the concept of “voluntary servitude” or simply “voluntary enslavement”; and
v. Common Law is nothing more than the laws of “voluntary servitude” and the laws of “voluntary slavery” to the Roman Cult and the Venetian Slavemasters. It is the job of the overseer slaves to convince you that you are not slaves, the common law still exists and has not been largely abolished and replaced with commercial law, to confuse you, to give you false hope. In return, they are rewarded as loyal slaves with bigger homes to use and more privileges than other slaves; and
vi. The reason why the overseer slaves such as judges, politicians, bankers, actors and media personalities are forced to lie and deny we are all slaves is because the slave system of voluntary servitude or “common law” was not the first global slave system, but merely its evolution. Before the emergence of Common Law, we were all subject to being considered mere animals or things under Canon Law of the Roman Cult, also known as the Law of the See, or Admiralty Law; and
vii. Under Admiralty Law, you are either a slave of the ship of state, or merely cargo for lawful salvage. Thus in 1302 through Unam Sanctam, the Roman Cult unlawfully claimed through trust the ownership of all the planet and all living "things" as either slaves, or less than slaves with things administered through the Court of Rota. This court, claimed as the Supreme Court of all Courts on the planet was initially abolished in the 16th Century only to be returned in 1908 under Pope Pius X as a purely spiritual ecclesiastical court of 12 "apostolic prothonotary" spirits, implying the twelve apostles. Since then, this new purely spiritual court has remained in constant "session", with the local courts using these powers to administer Divine Immortal Spirits expressed in Trust into Flesh Vessels as mere dead things ; and
viii. Yet this is not the only form of slave law still in force today. Instead, the oldest, the most evil are based on the false history of the slave laws of the Menesheh, also known as the Rabbi through the unholy document of hate, first formed in 333 known as the Talmud of the Menesheh- the false Israelites. Through the Talmud of the false Israelites, the whole planet is enslaved with the servants of the “chosen people” known as Caananites or K-nights (Knights) also known as the Scythians and then the rest as the goy/gyu and goyim – namely meaning the cattle, the dead lifeless corpses; and
ix. The truth known by those who claim to rule and by those who loyally serve such pretenders is that the world has been enslaved for many hundreds of years, without respite until now.

II. A prison designed with no way out
i. Before this time, the system of global slavery and the treatment of the world as one large slave plantation was designed so there is no way out – as evidenced through the courts of the priests of Ba’al known as the judges of most legal systems in the world; and
ii. Even the most educated of men and women may remain tricked into believing that upon self-representation they may claim their “common law rights” as means of defense, only to find the judge unlawfully rejects any and all claims. As the first law of the courts is the Uniform Commercial Codes of slavery as introduced in 1933, the defendant is an employee of a corporation and therefore automatically assumes the liability of any injury. Unless they can pay, they may be sent to prison; and
iii. If such a trickster as the judge is challenged, they are permitted to escape to their chambers and call upon even greater power to return and magically establish a new court, without telling the defendant they have now entered Admiralty Court, or the laws of the See in accordance with Canon Law of the Roman Cult issued in 1983. Now the judge can impose grave penalties upon such an unresponsive defendant including contempt of court and other punitive prison sentences, with the defendant having no rights unless they know Canon Law concerning juridical persons and establishing standing above being called a “thing”; and
iv. Sadly, few people actually know the original meaning of "thing" as a judicial meeting, or assembly; a matter brought before a court of law; a legal process; a charge brought; or a suit or cause pleaded before a court. This meaning is then used with devastating effect through the heretical concept of Pius X from 1908 to claim the dead apostles sit in permanent and open session as the "twelve prothonotaries" of the Sacred Rota - as the highest Supreme Court on the planet. So when a man or woman receives a blue or yellow notice from a court issued through this unholy knowledge of Canon law, by the time they come to court, they are automatically a thing. When a man or woman seeks to defend themselves by seeking to speak before the judge, they automatically "consent" to being a thing. Thus a judge with knowledge of such trickery can silence any man or woman by "lawfully" threatening contempt of court if the "thing" does not stop making noise; and
v. Indeed, it is the Roman Cult Canon Law of 1983 that establishes all courts are oratories, with judges holding ecclesiastical powers as “ordinaries” and their chambers as “chapels”. Thus the Bar Associations around the world have assisted judges in learning of their new powers in order to counteract those men and women who continue to wake up to their status as slaves, but demonstrating how to remain “in honor” with such perverse law and ensure such “terrorists” are sent to prison for long sentences as a warning to others; and
vi. If a judge is so inclined to ensure an educated defendant is legally sent to prison or worse, he or she may run away for a third and final time to their chamber and invoke their most powerful standing as rabbi of a Talmud Court under the Talmudic Laws of the false Israelites of the House of the twelve tribes of Menesheh. Now, even a judge in a nation that is against the death penalty may choose to impose a “legal” sentence against any goy/gyu or goyim who dares injure an Israelite – which is normally death. However, while judges in the United States and other nations have started to be trained in the re-imposition of Talmudic Law, it is at the hands of the false Menesheh, also known as the Scythians, also known as the Black Khazars and now the Ashkenazi; and
vii. The training that has been given to judges and lawyers of the Bar Associations by the Ashkenazi Rabbi is false, flawed and has no spiritual or lawful basis. It is the Ashkenazi Rabbi and their families of bankers, industrialists and slave traders who were responsible for breaking the sacred covenant of the Talmud in the unlawful sacrifice of millions possessing the blood of the Menesheh by fire in World War II, the unlawful creation of the state of Israel and the ultimate breach of the covenant in creating the new covenant of the United Nations which they claim control; and
viii. Indeed, these arrogant, ignorant and blind rabbi and families openly proclaim themselves as “Jews” – a word mysteriously introduced in the 16th Century by real Menesheh rabbi. As the true definition of “jew” is goy/gyu and goyim, it is the false Menesheh, being the Scythians, also known as the Ashkenazi who are the self confessed heretics and the rest of us who are the true Israelites; and
ix. In spite of the truth, in spite of their own laws they will continue to refuse to yield, for they have claimed control of a system designed so that no one escapes, in which no one is free and the whole world remains enslaved.

III. The true origins of the Scythians also known as the Askhenazi
i. Every narrative that has stood the test of time contains at least some grains of truth sown through it. The Scythian is an ancient Greek term applied to the many nomadic tribes, whose origin is from the Kazak Mountains and around the Caspian Sea in central Asia and at one time by the 6th Century BCE, dominated an area stretching more than 2,000 miles from the Ukraine to Mongolia. They were never worshippers of Ba’al Moloch, also known as Satan, Sabaoth, The Devil and Lucifer – therefore they were never Sarmatian until the 7th Century CE. Nor were the Scythians ever descended from the Israelites or adherents to the traditions of the Yahud and Messiah Kings – only to begin pretending to follow the Talmud upon their conversion to worshipping dark forces and evil in the 7th Century; and
ii. The Sarmatian priest class known as the House of Menesheh were well acquainted with the leaders of the Scythians and when their kingdom was smashed by the Byzantines, they sought refuge in the lands of the Scythians. Upon the arrival of the great plagues that killed one in two of the population of the known world, the Menesheh became the great “White Khazars” and gods of the Scythian tribes, while the leaders of the Scythians were relegated to the lesser bonded “knights” known as the “black khazars”; and
iii. It was this subservient role that many of the Scythian tribes continued to honor, including their most famous hero Genghis Khan who subjugated most of the known world, but was never permitted to enter Jerusalem. As the Khazarian empires broke up, some converting to Islam and others shifted Westward and North into Russia created the great empire of Sarmatia, the Scythians followed as the loyal bonded servants to their “white khazar” overlords; and
iv. By the twelfth century, the term Ashkenazi first appeared to define these recent converts to Sarmatianism and the worship of demons, who were never true blood descendents of the Menesheh and never true Israelites. The word comes from three Hebrew words ash meaning fire (in this case spiritual fire), ke meaning (like a) and nazi meaning prince/elevated (initiated) one – hence Ashkenazi meaning literally “spiritual fire/faith like a true initiated one”. Thus, the name is proof the Scythian descendents even in the twelfth century knew they were less than their overlords, the blood descendents of the Menesheh; and
v. Yet by the sixteenth century, the Scythian descendents, now known as the Ashkenazi or simply the slang term “nazis” began to show their disapproval and rebellion against their former “masters”. By the nineteenth century, the Ashkenazi merchants, bankers, and traders were in open rebellion against their traditional lords, who themselves were never true Israelites. Then in the twentieth century, the Ashkenazi devised an ingenious and unholy plan to sacrifice the ignorant and unknowing descendents of the Menesheh and manufacture the end of the Covenant of the Talmud in exchange for creating their own new covenant in the form of the United Nations, the creation of the state of Israel which they would control and the global commercial banking system; and
vi. Thus the events known as the Holocaust during World War II took place, permitting the Scythians/Ashkenazi to perform their heresy against the faith they claim to follow. But through the deliberate sacrifice of millions through fire, the Scythian/Ashkenazi money lenders concocted and even more appalling scheme – they stole the names, the ancestry and persona of hundreds of thousands of true descendents of the Menesheh and “white khazars”, switching names on lists so that those burnt alive were the true Menesheh, while those that travelled under false passports and papers prepared by the Vatican and its agents were the Scythian/Ashkenazi tricksters. Thus architecting the greatest identity theft in history – aided and abetted by the Vatican took place in a further historic breach against the Covenant of the Talmud. Since then, all major world events have largely revolved around these Scythian/Ashkenazi descendents and their complete incompetence as trustees for those who themselves claim to control the world; and
vii.These are the people that claim to run the world today- their names are stolen from people their parents and grandparents helped murder; they pretend to follow the Talmud, but really seek to protect their precious covenant of the United Nations; they believe in nothing and no one; they seek to feed off the work of others and promote ignorance amongst all but a few; they were never the true Menesheh; and the heirs to the Covenant within the Talmud and they definitely were never true Yahud and true Israelites.

IV. Liars and thieves who will never yield power
i.When faced with the reality that much of the fate of the world is in the hands of a few families of people who are founded on lies, cannot speak anything else but lies, believe in nothing and seek to control everything – we are speaking about liars and thieves who will never yield power, despite overwhelming signs of divine protest; and
ii.Simply, these people do not fear divine retribution from the Divine Creator of all, nor from Satan/Moloch/Lucifer for their historic act of heresy against the Talmud, because they don’t really believe there is either a God or a dark force. Instead, they believe all these things to be the creation of the collective imagination of people throughout the ages- a tool to be manipulated, to be corrupted for their own benefit; and
iii.Even when these liars and thieves will be caught out in their own courts, they will not be moved – except to vomit forth more lies and propaganda on how they are being persecuted, how such revelation of truth is anti-semitic- when they are not even true Israelites, nor those mentioned as the Chosen People of the Covenant of the Talmud; and
iv.While remedy and forgiveness has been offered to them, in spite of their horrible crimes against humanity, they will find ways to delay, to try and negotiate, to twist and turn because they truly believe themselves to be smarter than the rest of the world, whilst the rest of the world remains chained to faith, to belief and to common ideas of decency; and
v.Therefore, it remains improbable that the leaders of such people will relinquish that which they have stolen- instead preferring to burn and destroy that which they can no longer control. It rests then with those few who know the truth and have the power to stop these insane pretenders, lest the world suffer any more harm from their madness ; and
vi.If the world can be saved from any more of their harm, then let the models of fairness, freedom, equality, justice, empathy and compassion spread across the world and truly herald in the age promised to all.

Therefore upon this Pronouncement, warranted by Our Right, upon necessity, We invoke both our free domain of agency and these Rights for Ourselves and for and on behalf of all men and women, living or deceased, with the considerate judgment of all men and women living and deceased and the gracious favor of the Divine Creator; and
We hereby give life and personality to this sacred irrevocable Deed through Our seal in Our blood; and
As it is written, so let it be done! let it be done! let it be done

hmmmm.

Wow.Just Wow. THere is so much total crap in that rant that I really don't know where to begin.

11th February 2011, 10:45 AM #16

gtm
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Originally Posted by jargon buster
Perhaps he was once cut up by somebody a priest driving a Fiat(insert as applicable) up his back passage.

Fixed that for you
O'Collins is an Irish surname. Maybe he got a nasty spanking from a bloody minded nun in some parochial school?

Last edited by gtm; 11th February 2011 at 11:23 AM.

11th February 2011, 11:10 AM #17

Stacey Grove
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Originally Posted by gtm
Maybe he got a nasty spanking from a bloody minded nun
Some people would pay good money for that

11th February 2011, 11:53 AM #18

TraneWreck
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Quote:
You may not realize you are a slave under the slave laws of Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC)
Just scanning, that one made me laugh. The UCC clarified, simplified, and made the existing common law more useable for businesses. I honestly have no idea what part of that Code this nut could possibly be referring to.

11th February 2011, 12:00 PM #19

gtm
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Originally Posted by TraneWreck
Just scanning, that one made me laugh. The UCC clarified, simplified, and made the existing common law more useable for businesses. I honestly have no idea what part of that Code this nut could possibly be referring to.
Being a pedantic english solicitor soon after I became aware of FMOTL'ers utter terror of the dreaded UCC I though I ought to have a look at the damned thing. I was very surprised to find that instead of a sort of legal 'satanic bible' it looked very much liked at combination of our Consumer Credit Act '74, Sales of Goods Act '79, Sale & Supply of Goods & Services Act '82. I wonder what Frank would think?

11th February 2011, 01:43 PM #20

Horatius
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Originally Posted by gtm
Being a pedantic english solicitor soon after I became aware of FMOTL'ers utter terror of the dreaded UCC I though I ought to have a look at the damned thing. I was very surprised to find that instead of a sort of legal 'satanic bible' it looked very much liked at combination of our Consumer Credit Act '74, Sales of Goods Act '79, Sale & Supply of Goods & Services Act '82. I wonder what Frank would think?

"Consumer" is an obvious code word for Slave. "Credit" is how the slave owner extracts his value from the owned slave.

"Sales of Goods" clearly deals with sales of "goods", better known as "slaves". What's the point of having slaves you can't sell?

"Sale & Supply of Goods & Services", here they're obviously providing slave "services" via their human "goods", i.e., slaves.

It's really not that hard to come up with this stuff.

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11th February 2011, 02:10 PM #21

tsig
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Originally Posted by Horatius
"Consumer" is an obvious code word for Slave. "Credit" is how the slave owner extracts his value from the owned slave.

"Sales of Goods" clearly deals with sales of "goods", better known as "slaves". What's the point of having slaves you can't sell?

"Sale & Supply of Goods & Services", here they're obviously providing slave "services" via their human "goods", i.e., slaves.

It's really not that hard to come up with this stuff.
Then why you might ask is Frank's law better than yours?

i. By Right, Power and Authority of Article 89 of Pactum De Singularis Caelum, also known as the Covenant of One Heaven these pronouncements of law known collectively as Canonum De Lex Divina and also known as the Canons of Divine Law are hereby promulgated in the original form of Ucadian Language; and
ii. The Canonum De Lex Divina represents the primary, one and only true first canon of Divine Law. Excluding the Covenant of One Heaven, all other laws, claims and agreements claiming standards of Divine Law shall be secondary and inferior to the Canonum De Lex Divina ab initio (from the beginning)

11th February 2011, 03:18 PM #22

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Originally Posted by tsig
Then why you might ask is Frank's law better than yours?

Well, obviously it isn't better than mine, so you'd better buy into my scheme while you still can!

I have very reasonable rates for those with the proper attitude.

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11th February 2011, 03:28 PM #23

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Originally Posted by TraneWreck
I recently had a case involving asset forfeiture. In the past, the State was required to seize assets pursuant to the criminal case, meaning they needed to obey individual due process requirement and obtain convictions before they could take the cars and other items used in the crime.

When the "War on Drugs" started, this procedure proved to be too cumbersome, so they used this bizarre combination of maritiem and admiralty law and various statutes spread out all over the Federal Codes to use civil law to seize assets. Here's one of the laws I was reading:

http://openjurist.org/title-28/us-co...nd-asset-forfe

Now, the really odd thing is that to use these rules, the government files against the property, itself.

Admiralty cases against inanimate defendants have been going on for a lot longer than that. See, for example, United States v. One Hundred and Thirty-Two Packages of Spirituous Liquors and Wines et al., 76 Fed 364 (1896), or any of the other odd case names listed in Megarry's Miscellany-at-Law at pp. 288-9.

The FOTLers will get overexcited if they discover that these procedures actually involve TEH ADMIRALTY LAW.

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11th February 2011, 04:08 PM #24

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Originally Posted by Horatius
"Consumer" is an obvious code word for Slave. "Credit" is how the slave owner extracts his value from the owned slave.

"Sales of Goods" clearly deals with sales of "goods", better known as "slaves". What's the point of having slaves you can't sell?

"Sale & Supply of Goods & Services", here they're obviously providing slave "services" via their human "goods", i.e., slaves.

It's really not that hard to come up with this stuff.
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11th February 2011, 05:23 PM #25

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Originally Posted by gtm
Herewith Frank O'Collins explanation for our slavery:

I. A World of Slavery
i. You are a slave, just as your parents, your grandparents and great grandparents were slaves. You may be lucky enough to live in a pleasant plantation with other slaves, managed by overseer slaves such as police, judges, doctors and politicians where few examples of slave cruelty occur. Or you may be witnessing changes in the community plantation, which is part of a state slave plantation and national slave plantation where there is more crime, more misery and death. The fact that you are a slave is unquestionable. The only unknown is whether you will permit your children and their children to also grow up as slaves; and
ii. You are a slave because you live under slave law, also called Commercial Law and Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC) first introduced in 1933 and based upon the ancient principles of Sumerian slave law enshrined in the Ur-Nammu Code of 1900 BCE that “all crime against slaves is commercial”. Under the UCC Slave Laws applied to all nations as corporations registered in the state of Delaware of the United States, corporations hold no real property, only debt and the energy of slaves, with you considered an employee of a corporation and its surety as evidenced by the certified copy of the birth certificate which you hold, but can never own; and
iii. Therefore under the UCC Slave Laws which most slave plantations of the world operate you can never own a house, even though they trick into believing you do; you never really own a car, or boat or any other object, only have the benefit of use. Indeed, you do not even own your own body, which is claimed to have been lawfully gifted by your parents at your birth in the traditions of old slave contracts in which the slave baby had its feet or hands dipped in ink, or a drop of blood spilt on the commercial transaction document we know as the live birth record; and
iv. You may not realize you are a slave under the slave laws of Uniform Commercial Codes (UCC), but may still erroneously believe you are slave with “more rights” as used to be afforded under “Common Law” until it was largely abolished back in 1933 without properly telling you. The word “common” comes from 14th Century Latin communis meaning "to entrust, commit to a burden, public duty, service or obligation". The word was created from the combination of two ancient pre-Vatican Latin words com/comitto = "to entrust, commit" and munis = "burden, public duty, service or obligation". In other words, the real meaning of common as first formed because of the creation of the Roman Trust over the planet is the concept of “voluntary servitude” or simply “voluntary enslavement”; and
v. Common Law is nothing more than the laws of “voluntary servitude” and the laws of “voluntary slavery” to the Roman Cult and the Venetian Slavemasters. It is the job of the overseer slaves to convince you that you are not slaves, the common law still exists and has not been largely abolished and replaced with commercial law, to confuse you, to give you false hope. In return, they are rewarded as loyal slaves with bigger homes to use and more privileges than other slaves; and
vi. The reason why the overseer slaves such as judges, politicians, bankers, actors and media personalities are forced to lie and deny we are all slaves is because the slave system of voluntary servitude or “common law” was not the first global slave system, but merely its evolution. Before the emergence of Common Law, we were all subject to being considered mere animals or things under Canon Law of the Roman Cult, also known as the Law of the See, or Admiralty Law; and
vii. Under Admiralty Law, you are either a slave of the ship of state, or merely cargo for lawful salvage. Thus in 1302 through Unam Sanctam, the Roman Cult unlawfully claimed through trust the ownership of all the planet and all living "things" as either slaves, or less than slaves with things administered through the Court of Rota. This court, claimed as the Supreme Court of all Courts on the planet was initially abolished in the 16th Century only to be returned in 1908 under Pope Pius X as a purely spiritual ecclesiastical court of 12 "apostolic prothonotary" spirits, implying the twelve apostles. Since then, this new purely spiritual court has remained in constant "session", with the local courts using these powers to administer Divine Immortal Spirits expressed in Trust into Flesh Vessels as mere dead things ; and
viii. Yet this is not the only form of slave law still in force today. Instead, the oldest, the most evil are based on the false history of the slave laws of the Menesheh, also known as the Rabbi through the unholy document of hate, first formed in 333 known as the Talmud of the Menesheh- the false Israelites. Through the Talmud of the false Israelites, the whole planet is enslaved with the servants of the “chosen people” known as Caananites or K-nights (Knights) also known as the Scythians and then the rest as the goy/gyu and goyim – namely meaning the cattle, the dead lifeless corpses; and
ix. The truth known by those who claim to rule and by those who loyally serve such pretenders is that the world has been enslaved for many hundreds of years, without respite until now.

II. A prison designed with no way out
i. Before this time, the system of global slavery and the treatment of the world as one large slave plantation was designed so there is no way out – as evidenced through the courts of the priests of Ba’al known as the judges of most legal systems in the world; and
ii. Even the most educated of men and women may remain tricked into believing that upon self-representation they may claim their “common law rights” as means of defense, only to find the judge unlawfully rejects any and all claims. As the first law of the courts is the Uniform Commercial Codes of slavery as introduced in 1933, the defendant is an employee of a corporation and therefore automatically assumes the liability of any injury. Unless they can pay, they may be sent to prison; and
iii. If such a trickster as the judge is challenged, they are permitted to escape to their chambers and call upon even greater power to return and magically establish a new court, without telling the defendant they have now entered Admiralty Court, or the laws of the See in accordance with Canon Law of the Roman Cult issued in 1983. Now the judge can impose grave penalties upon such an unresponsive defendant including contempt of court and other punitive prison sentences, with the defendant having no rights unless they know Canon Law concerning juridical persons and establishing standing above being called a “thing”; and
iv. Sadly, few people actually know the original meaning of "thing" as a judicial meeting, or assembly; a matter brought before a court of law; a legal process; a charge brought; or a suit or cause pleaded before a court. This meaning is then used with devastating effect through the heretical concept of Pius X from 1908 to claim the dead apostles sit in permanent and open session as the "twelve prothonotaries" of the Sacred Rota - as the highest Supreme Court on the planet. So when a man or woman receives a blue or yellow notice from a court issued through this unholy knowledge of Canon law, by the time they come to court, they are automatically a thing. When a man or woman seeks to defend themselves by seeking to speak before the judge, they automatically "consent" to being a thing. Thus a judge with knowledge of such trickery can silence any man or woman by "lawfully" threatening contempt of court if the "thing" does not stop making noise; and
v. Indeed, it is the Roman Cult Canon Law of 1983 that establishes all courts are oratories, with judges holding ecclesiastical powers as “ordinaries” and their chambers as “chapels”. Thus the Bar Associations around the world have assisted judges in learning of their new powers in order to counteract those men and women who continue to wake up to their status as slaves, but demonstrating how to remain “in honor” with such perverse law and ensure such “terrorists” are sent to prison for long sentences as a warning to others; and
vi. If a judge is so inclined to ensure an educated defendant is legally sent to prison or worse, he or she may run away for a third and final time to their chamber and invoke their most powerful standing as rabbi of a Talmud Court under the Talmudic Laws of the false Israelites of the House of the twelve tribes of Menesheh. Now, even a judge in a nation that is against the death penalty may choose to impose a “legal” sentence against any goy/gyu or goyim who dares injure an Israelite – which is normally death. However, while judges in the United States and other nations have started to be trained in the re-imposition of Talmudic Law, it is at the hands of the false Menesheh, also known as the Scythians, also known as the Black Khazars and now the Ashkenazi; and
vii. The training that has been given to judges and lawyers of the Bar Associations by the Ashkenazi Rabbi is false, flawed and has no spiritual or lawful basis. It is the Ashkenazi Rabbi and their families of bankers, industrialists and slave traders who were responsible for breaking the sacred covenant of the Talmud in the unlawful sacrifice of millions possessing the blood of the Menesheh by fire in World War II, the unlawful creation of the state of Israel and the ultimate breach of the covenant in creating the new covenant of the United Nations which they claim control; and
viii. Indeed, these arrogant, ignorant and blind rabbi and families openly proclaim themselves as “Jews” – a word mysteriously introduced in the 16th Century by real Menesheh rabbi. As the true definition of “jew” is goy/gyu and goyim, it is the false Menesheh, being the Scythians, also known as the Ashkenazi who are the self confessed heretics and the rest of us who are the true Israelites; and
ix. In spite of the truth, in spite of their own laws they will continue to refuse to yield, for they have claimed control of a system designed so that no one escapes, in which no one is free and the whole world remains enslaved.

III. The true origins of the Scythians also known as the Askhenazi
i. Every narrative that has stood the test of time contains at least some grains of truth sown through it. The Scythian is an ancient Greek term applied to the many nomadic tribes, whose origin is from the Kazak Mountains and around the Caspian Sea in central Asia and at one time by the 6th Century BCE, dominated an area stretching more than 2,000 miles from the Ukraine to Mongolia. They were never worshippers of Ba’al Moloch, also known as Satan, Sabaoth, The Devil and Lucifer – therefore they were never Sarmatian until the 7th Century CE. Nor were the Scythians ever descended from the Israelites or adherents to the traditions of the Yahud and Messiah Kings – only to begin pretending to follow the Talmud upon their conversion to worshipping dark forces and evil in the 7th Century; and
ii. The Sarmatian priest class known as the House of Menesheh were well acquainted with the leaders of the Scythians and when their kingdom was smashed by the Byzantines, they sought refuge in the lands of the Scythians. Upon the arrival of the great plagues that killed one in two of the population of the known world, the Menesheh became the great “White Khazars” and gods of the Scythian tribes, while the leaders of the Scythians were relegated to the lesser bonded “knights” known as the “black khazars”; and
iii. It was this subservient role that many of the Scythian tribes continued to honor, including their most famous hero Genghis Khan who subjugated most of the known world, but was never permitted to enter Jerusalem. As the Khazarian empires broke up, some converting to Islam and others shifted Westward and North into Russia created the great empire of Sarmatia, the Scythians followed as the loyal bonded servants to their “white khazar” overlords; and
iv. By the twelfth century, the term Ashkenazi first appeared to define these recent converts to Sarmatianism and the worship of demons, who were never true blood descendents of the Menesheh and never true Israelites. The word comes from three Hebrew words ash meaning fire (in this case spiritual fire), ke meaning (like a) and nazi meaning prince/elevated (initiated) one – hence Ashkenazi meaning literally “spiritual fire/faith like a true initiated one”. Thus, the name is proof the Scythian descendents even in the twelfth century knew they were less than their overlords, the blood descendents of the Menesheh; and
v. Yet by the sixteenth century, the Scythian descendents, now known as the Ashkenazi or simply the slang term “nazis” began to show their disapproval and rebellion against their former “masters”. By the nineteenth century, the Ashkenazi merchants, bankers, and traders were in open rebellion against their traditional lords, who themselves were never true Israelites. Then in the twentieth century, the Ashkenazi devised an ingenious and unholy plan to sacrifice the ignorant and unknowing descendents of the Menesheh and manufacture the end of the Covenant of the Talmud in exchange for creating their own new covenant in the form of the United Nations, the creation of the state of Israel which they would control and the global commercial banking system; and
vi. Thus the events known as the Holocaust during World War II took place, permitting the Scythians/Ashkenazi to perform their heresy against the faith they claim to follow. But through the deliberate sacrifice of millions through fire, the Scythian/Ashkenazi money lenders concocted and even more appalling scheme – they stole the names, the ancestry and persona of hundreds of thousands of true descendents of the Menesheh and “white khazars”, switching names on lists so that those burnt alive were the true Menesheh, while those that travelled under false passports and papers prepared by the Vatican and its agents were the Scythian/Ashkenazi tricksters. Thus architecting the greatest identity theft in history – aided and abetted by the Vatican took place in a further historic breach against the Covenant of the Talmud. Since then, all major world events have largely revolved around these Scythian/Ashkenazi descendents and their complete incompetence as trustees for those who themselves claim to control the world; and
vii.These are the people that claim to run the world today- their names are stolen from people their parents and grandparents helped murder; they pretend to follow the Talmud, but really seek to protect their precious covenant of the United Nations; they believe in nothing and no one; they seek to feed off the work of others and promote ignorance amongst all but a few; they were never the true Menesheh; and the heirs to the Covenant within the Talmud and they definitely were never true Yahud and true Israelites.

IV. Liars and thieves who will never yield power
i.When faced with the reality that much of the fate of the world is in the hands of a few families of people who are founded on lies, cannot speak anything else but lies, believe in nothing and seek to control everything – we are speaking about liars and thieves who will never yield power, despite overwhelming signs of divine protest; and
ii.Simply, these people do not fear divine retribution from the Divine Creator of all, nor from Satan/Moloch/Lucifer for their historic act of heresy against the Talmud, because they don’t really believe there is either a God or a dark force. Instead, they believe all these things to be the creation of the collective imagination of people throughout the ages- a tool to be manipulated, to be corrupted for their own benefit; and
iii.Even when these liars and thieves will be caught out in their own courts, they will not be moved – except to vomit forth more lies and propaganda on how they are being persecuted, how such revelation of truth is anti-semitic- when they are not even true Israelites, nor those mentioned as the Chosen People of the Covenant of the Talmud; and
iv.While remedy and forgiveness has been offered to them, in spite of their horrible crimes against humanity, they will find ways to delay, to try and negotiate, to twist and turn because they truly believe themselves to be smarter than the rest of the world, whilst the rest of the world remains chained to faith, to belief and to common ideas of decency; and
v.Therefore, it remains improbable that the leaders of such people will relinquish that which they have stolen- instead preferring to burn and destroy that which they can no longer control. It rests then with those few who know the truth and have the power to stop these insane pretenders, lest the world suffer any more harm from their madness ; and
vi.If the world can be saved from any more of their harm, then let the models of fairness, freedom, equality, justice, empathy and compassion spread across the world and truly herald in the age promised to all.

Therefore upon this Pronouncement, warranted by Our Right, upon necessity, We invoke both our free domain of agency and these Rights for Ourselves and for and on behalf of all men and women, living or deceased, with the considerate judgment of all men and women living and deceased and the gracious favor of the Divine Creator; and
We hereby give life and personality to this sacred irrevocable Deed through Our seal in Our blood; and
As it is written, so let it be done! let it be done! let it be done
Isn't this jackass Australian? I hear they don't take too kindly to anti-semitic hate-mongering down there. This is a really vile example of the genre.

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12th February 2011, 01:39 AM #26

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Ucadia and One-Heaven

Ucadia and One-Heaven need a separate thread from FMOTL (see http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...99#post6868899)

For those unfamiliar with Ucadia & One-Heaven see http://one-heaven.org/faq_lies.asp for starters.

Other useful background is here: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...61#post6868161

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12th February 2011, 01:56 AM #27

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Originally Posted by Stacey Grove
Does anybody have any idea what prompted O'Collins to start this adventure?
We know that Menard had his nose bloodied by the state when his child was removed which appears to have set him on his path of being anti government and attempting to remove himself from society, but what drove O'Collins? AS JB has said, O'Collins has put an awful amount of his time into this.
And, what is his obsession with Rome all about?
Perhaps he was once cut up by somebody driving a Fiat?
Some unkind person might suggest it's to do with the fact there is the option to subscribe via Paypal to One-Heaven/Ucadia.

12th February 2011, 02:08 AM #28

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So you're walking down the street...

& you happen upon an alien. You're gripped by a xenocidal frenzy & reach for a weapon with which to smash the little blighters gigantic brain in. STOP! It's against the law.

http://united-britain.org/code_crimi...ticle_0660.htm

Frank also wants to revive criminal libel (which some might say is a massive attack on freedom of speech)

http://united-britain.org/code_crimi...ticle_0870.htm

& he has a rather odd take on the death penalty:

http://united-britain.org/code_crimi...ticle_0430.htm

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12th February 2011, 03:13 AM #29

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We should merge this thread with the CQV 1666 thread.

12th February 2011, 04:45 AM #30

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Originally Posted by gtm
We should merge this thread with the CQV 1666 thread.
Yes.

Excuse my ignorance, how is this done?

Edit added - ok, I report it.

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12th February 2011, 07:49 AM #31

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I think a copy of the said act so we can all read and deduce its true meaning is needed
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Cha2/18-19/11
Quote:
Cestui Que Vie Act 1666

1666 CHAPTER 11 18 and 19 Cha 2

An Act for Redresse of Inconveniencies by want of Proofe of the Deceases of Persons beyond the Seas or absenting themselves, upon whose Lives Estates doe depend.
X1Recital that Cestui que vies have gone beyond Sea, and that Reversioners cannot find out whether they are alive or dead.

Whereas diverse Lords of Mannours and others have granted Estates by Lease for one or more life or lives, or else for yeares determinable upon one or more life or lives And it hath often happened that such person or persons for whose life or lives such Estates have beene granted have gone beyond the Seas or soe absented themselves for many yeares that the Lessors and Reversioners cannot finde out whether such person or persons be alive or dead by reason whereof such Lessors and Reversioners have beene held out of possession of their Tenements for many yeares after all the lives upon which such Estates depend are dead in regard that the Lessors and Reversioners when they have brought Actions for the recovery of their Tenements have beene putt upon it to prove the death of their Tennants when it is almost impossible for them to discover the same, For remedy of which mischeife soe frequently happening to such Lessors or Reversioners.

Cestui que vie remaining beyond Sea for Seven Years together and no Proof of their Lives, Judge in Action to direct a Verdict as though Cestui que vie were dead.

If such person or persons for whose life or lives such Estates have beene or shall be granted as aforesaid shall remaine beyond the Seas or elsewhere absent themselves in this Realme by the space of seaven yeares together and noe sufficient and evident proofe be made of the lives of such person or persons respectively in any Action commenced for recovery of such Tenements by the Lessors or Reversioners in every such case the person or persons upon whose life or lives such Estate depended shall be accounted as naturally dead, And in every Action brought for the recovery of the said Tenements by the Lessors or Reversioners their Heires or Assignes, the Judges before whom such Action shall be brought shall direct the Jury to give their Verdict as if the person soe remaining beyond the Seas or otherwise absenting himselfe were dead.

If the supposed dead Man prove to be alive, then the Title is revested. Action for mean Profits with Interest.

[X2Provided alwayes That if any person or [X3person or] persons shall be evicted out of any Lands or Tenements by vertue of this Act, and afterwards if such person or persons upon whose life or lives such Estate or Estates depend shall returne againe from beyond the Seas, or shall on proofe in any Action to be brought for recovery of the same [to] be made appeare to be liveing; or to have beene liveing at the time of the Eviction That then and from thenceforth the Tennant or Lessee who was outed of the same his or their Executors Administrators or Assignes shall or may reenter repossesse have hold and enjoy the said Lands or Tenements in his or their former Estate for and dureing the Life or Lives or soe long terme as the said person or persons upon whose Life or Lives the said Estate or Estates depend shall be liveing, and alsoe shall upon Action or Actions to be brought by him or them against the Lessors Reversioners or Tennants in possession or other persons respectively which since the time of the said Eviction received the Proffitts of the said Lands or Tenements recover for damages the full Proffitts of the said Lands or Tenements respectively with lawfull Interest for and from the time that he or they were outed of the said Lands or Tenements, and kepte or held out of the same by the said Lessors Reversioners Tennants or other persons who after the said Eviction received the Proffitts of the said Lands or Tenements or any of them respectively as well in the case when the said person or persons upon whose Life or Lives such Estate or Estates did depend are or shall be dead at the time of bringing of the said Action or Actions as if the said person or persons where then liveing.]

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13th February 2011, 03:05 AM #32

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Short version: If someone has been missing for seven years and there is no evidence that they are still alive they can be declared dead.

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13th February 2011, 03:08 AM #33

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thats it, they can be declared dead and there property shared amongst their heirs.
If they turn up later they still have a claim on things though.

Its either that, or the pope owns everyone on the planet

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13th February 2011, 06:46 AM #34

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Originally Posted by jargon buster
Its either that, or the pope owns everyone on the planet

Reading the second half just makes their interpretation of the first half even more ridiculous.

Part 1, in which the Pope, or whoever, outlines his nefarious plan to steal absolutely everything in the world. Followed by Part 2, in which the Pope, or whoever, outlines exactly what you need to do to get your everything in the world back, plus interest.

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13th February 2011, 08:59 AM #35

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Canons rule

Canon 1
A law is not a canon, but a false or lesser positive law unless it follows this law and belongs to the body of laws known as Astrum Iuris Divini Canonum in accordance with Pactum De Singularis Caelum.

I wonder if he had fun making all this up.

14th February 2011, 05:50 AM #36

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Originally Posted by D'rok
Isn't this jackass Australian? I hear they don't take too kindly to anti-semitic hate-mongering down there. This is a really vile example of the genre.
This is a standard far right 'motif' - ie there are harmless, real jews & there are destructive 'false' jews. It's a nasty little argument that is used to protect it's proponents from the accusation of anti semitism. Needless to say it has absolutely no historical & genetic validity.

Here is a weird article on the website of one, Eric John Phelps, a notorious white supremacist & conspiracy theorist.

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2010...rank-ocollins/

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14th February 2011, 06:04 AM #37

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Originally Posted by gtm
This is a standard far right 'motif' - ie there are harmless, real jews & there are destructive 'false' jews. It's a nasty little argument that is used to protect it's proponents from the accusation of anti semitism. Needless to say it has absolutely no historical & genetic validity.
Do you have any links to the historical/genetic validity? I need to counter this 'the not-really jews did it' stance. Thanks.

14th February 2011, 06:18 AM #38

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Originally Posted by Grassy Knowlington
Do you have any links to the historical/genetic validity? I need to counter this 'the not-really jews did it' stance. Thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

good 'ol wikipedia

14th February 2011, 06:38 AM #39

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Originally Posted by gtm
This is a standard far right 'motif' - ie there are harmless, real jews & there are destructive 'false' jews. It's a nasty little argument that is used to protect it's proponents from the accusation of anti semitism. Needless to say it has absolutely no historical & genetic validity.

Here is a weird article on the website of one, Eric John Phelps, a notorious white supremacist & conspiracy theorist.

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2010...rank-ocollins/
Ugh. I want to re-format the sectors of my brain where this "research" is now stored.

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14th February 2011, 11:26 AM #40

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Originally Posted by D'rok
Ugh. I want to re-format the sectors of my brain where this "research" is now stored.
Yozhik, chief O'Collins 'cheerleader' on the Icke forum has articulated the vicious racism that is at the very heart of UCADIA thinking.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=326

Seriously unpleasant stuff. Bring back Rob Menard. OK, he a cheap conman but is really quite inoffensive compared to this kind of crazy bigotry.

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14th February 2011, 12:03 PM #41

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Originally Posted by gtm
Yozhik, chief O'Collins 'cheerleader' on the Icke forum has articulated the vicious racism that is at the very heart of UCADIA thinking.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=326

Seriously unpleasant stuff. Bring back Rob Menard. OK, he a cheap conman but is really quite inoffensive compared to this kind of crazy bigotry.
Agreed. All this crap about "bloodlines" (O'Collins=good, Crypto-jews=bad) is really offensive. For all his antics, I seriously doubt Menard would buy into this kind of racist drivel.

I can't believe I just said something nice about Menard. I need a drink.

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14th February 2011, 04:02 PM #42

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Originally Posted by D'rok
Agreed. All this crap about "bloodlines" (O'Collins=good, Crypto-jews=bad) is really offensive. For all his antics, I seriously doubt Menard would buy into this kind of racist drivel.

I can't believe I just said something nice about Menard. I need a drink.

Maybe, but I have noticed that a very high percentage of the FOTLers seems to have "issues" with Jews and "non whites" in general.

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A law is not a canon, but a false or lesser positive law unless it follows this law and belongs to the body of laws known as Astrum Iuris Divini Canonum in accordance with Pactum De Singularis Caelum.

I wonder if he had fun making all this up.
Protego Horribilis!

I wonder if he's tried Harry Potter spells in the courtroom.

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Someone has slated Ucadia and the galant yozhik comes to the rescue.
This is almost a stundie
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=333
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You think it's a 'crock'?
Excellent - everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Now ... WHY is it a 'crock'?
Rebut it ... give your rationale ... deconstruct it point for point.
Substantiate the 'crock' label ... provide some 'flesh' to the 'bones' you're throwing.

It may well be a 'crock' ... but you give nothing as to WHY it is a 'crock'.
Hardly compelling or credible rhetoric.
He actually wants someone to rebut Ucadia using reason and logic.

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15th February 2011, 06:26 AM #45

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Back to the caves.

Originally Posted by jargon buster
Someone has slated Ucadia and the galant yozhik comes to the rescue.
This is almost a stundie
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=333

He actually wants someone to rebut Ucadia using reason and logic.
Yosick has certainly found himself a new guru.

We are where we are now because we have forgotten who we are.
Through generations, we have lost our customs, our traditions and our values.
The building blocks of the clann, tribe and community have been eroded systematically and intentionally ... and we and our ancestors not only watched it happen, on many occasions we invited it to happen.

15th February 2011, 06:30 AM #46

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How long can Rumpole last being the voice of reason there.

CQV 1666

It does what it says on the tin - ie allows the heirs of disappeared persons to administer their estates. FOC's interpretation is wholly misguided. It's a English Act of Parliament & by 1666 the reformation had totally eradicated 'Papal' power in mainland Britain. The idea that CQV 1666 is part of some nefarious plot involving the jesuits, khazars, venetians, reverse vampires, skull & bones etc is tosh.

15th February 2011, 06:31 AM #47

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Dont you mean yozhik has found someone to change his diapers for him.

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15th February 2011, 06:32 AM #48

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I would help but I have run out of sock puppets

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15th February 2011, 06:43 AM #49

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Originally Posted by jargon buster
Dont you mean yozhik has found someone to change his diapers for him.

Don't know about the diaper but I'll bet he gets his wallet cleaned out.

15th February 2011, 06:45 AM #50

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Originally Posted by jargon buster
I would help but I have run out of sock puppets
I hear the underpants gnomes have a sideline in hosiery.

15th February 2011, 06:57 AM #51

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Originally Posted by tsig
How long can Rumpole last being the voice of reason there.

CQV 1666

It does what it says on the tin - ie allows the heirs of disappeared persons to administer their estates. FOC's interpretation is wholly misguided. It's a English Act of Parliament & by 1666 the reformation had totally eradicated 'Papal' power in mainland Britain. The idea that CQV 1666 is part of some nefarious plot involving the jesuits, khazars, venetians, reverse vampires, skull & bones etc is tosh.
Not long I suppose, now that Yozhik has unveiled the depth of his racism and holocaust denial.

Originally Posted by anti-semitic *******
Of course the Holocaust happened ... exactly as the Zionists and Parasites planned it so. The numbers might be a little out ... ... but there is a reason for that too.

Without it, their Covenant would not have [prematurely and falsely] come to an end.

The Zionists and other Parasites NEEDED the Holocaust ... the Zionists and other Parasites PLANNED the Holocaust ... the Zionists and other Parasites EXECUTED the Holocaust ... it was a well executed plan with a purpose.

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15th February 2011, 07:50 AM #52

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Originally Posted by D'rok
Not long I suppose, now that Yozhik has unveiled the depth of his racism and holocaust denial.
It's utterly obscene.

The Jews 'holocausted' themselves but it doesn't really matter because the majority of the ones who were murdered were Khazar 'parasites'.

I used to think Yozhik was a harmless nut but he appears to have had his mind warped by the vile O'Collins.

For the record I'm done with posting on Icke. I've done it for nearly a year now & enough is enough.

15th February 2011, 08:09 AM #53

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Originally Posted by gtm
It's utterly obscene.

The Jews 'holocausted' themselves but it doesn't really matter because the majority of the ones who were murdered were Khazar 'parasites'.

I used to think Yozhik was a harmless nut but he appears to have had his mind warped by the vile O'Collins.

For the record I'm done with posting on Icke. I've done it for nearly a year now & enough is enough.
He is an idiot. But like all idiots with guns, he ends up turning it on himself. Here's a good example -

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...=157833&page=2

There's even a stundie at post 38

I totally agree that the section of that Ucadia thread that you object to is positively offensive.

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5th December 2012, 07:46 AM #54

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Frank goes there!!! - UCADIA & Admiralty law

It's amusing that the same old guff is continually recycled by legal / constitutional conspiracy theorists.

Herewith UCADIA chief wizard, Frank O'Collins, articulating the old chesnut vis a vis the law actually being 'evil' admiralty 'magical' spells:

http://blog.ucadia.com/2012/11/the-o...ommercial.html

The laughable thing about this is that O'Collins is poaching hackneyed old ideas first propogated by the early 1980's Sovereign Citizens.

5th December 2012, 12:32 PM #55

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It had to happen. O'Collins is as nutty as a fruit cake. No wonder yozhik is an avid follower.

This is my favourite bit.

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Again the pirates and privateers are openly and knowingly lying to the people they claim to uphold as the proof and method of how admiralty law is applied to each and every one of us- is breathtakingly simple and obvious- (1) we each require a birth certificate and registration and (2) we are birthed in hospitals that literally means a military establishment and legally is treated itself as a "vessel"- with hospitals both "commissioned" and "launched" and with people formally "admitted" "onboard" and discharged.

5th December 2012, 02:45 PM #56

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Originally Posted by Stacey Grove
It had to happen. O'Collins is as nutty as a fruit cake. No wonder yozhik is an avid follower.

This is my favourite bit. ....
Quote:
Again the pirates and privateers are openly and knowingly lying to the people they claim to uphold as the proof and method of how admiralty law is applied to each and every one of us- is breathtakingly simple and obvious- (1) we each require a birth certificate and registration and (2) we are birthed in hospitals that literally means a military establishment and legally is treated itself as a "vessel"- with hospitals both "commissioned" and "launched" and with people formally "admitted" "onboard" and discharged.
Seriously, its like a big merry-go-round.
One bunch of numpties fall for it, grows up, forgets about it and then the next platoon of numpties fall for this nonsense.

Gurus and really bad creators of CT websites need to realise that fooling the gullible and illiterate is not something to be proud of.
Hardly makes you "a wolverine"

(I'd address that at you Menard, Hi btw, but tbh you're even more numptier than your marks!).

So, to follow on, here follows my first post, (as a dimwit who believes conmen on YouTube), which I would post on Rob's 3-member WFS or over at the DIF FOTL-Waffle Thread, a mecca for free speech of course, ...if I were allowed to.

Ahem....
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6th December 2012, 01:53 AM #57

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Originally Posted by Stacey Grove
It had to happen. O'Collins is as nutty as a fruit cake. No wonder yozhik is an avid follower.

This is my favourite bit.
we are birthed in hospitals that literally means a military establishment and legally is treated itself as a "vessel"- with hospitals both "commissioned" and "launched" and with people formally "admitted" "onboard" and discharged.

This is ultra crazy. What O'Collins has failed to pick up on is that giving birth is hospital is a relatively recent innovation which is predated by the requirement to have a birth certificate. Kinda renders that limb of his argument void.

UCADIA is wonderfully dotty.

I have to confess there is a small part of me that admires O'Collins chutzpah. He has after all sat down and written a whole law code. It must have taken him ages. He's even included a law that deals with the killing of an Alien . The UCADIA websites are a monument to one mans mountainous arrogance & delusion.

That being said the anti semitism & anti catholicism are pretty unpleasant.

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Quote:
we are birthed in hospitals that literally means a military establishment and legally is treated itself as a "vessel"- with hospitals both "commissioned" and "launched" and with people formally "admitted" "onboard" and discharged.

And I always thought that a Hospital was a big building with patients. But that's not important right now.

Norm

6th December 2012, 07:55 PM #59

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Originally Posted by fromdownunder
And I always thought that a Hospital was a big building with patients. But that's not important right now.

Norm

Surely you must be joking!

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6th December 2012, 11:23 PM #60

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7th December 2012, 04:23 AM #61

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Seems he doesn't know how to spell Berth.

7th December 2012, 08:25 AM #62

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop
Seems he doesn't know how to spell Berth.
In FOTLish when a word sounds like another that means they have the same meaning.

7th December 2012, 09:12 AM #63

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Originally Posted by tsig
In FOTLish when a word sounds like another that means they have the same meaning.
Or words that seem to be embedded in others ("understand" = "stand under" in FOTLish).

... and they merrily ignore anyone who points out this doesn't work in other languages (most notably Canada, which has two official languages: English and French). What happens when the court proceedings aren't in English?

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7th December 2012, 10:07 AM #64

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Originally Posted by grmcdorman
Or words that seem to be embedded in others ("understand" = "stand under" in FOTLish).

... and they merrily ignore anyone who points out this doesn't work in other languages (most notably Canada, which has two official languages: English and French). What happens when the court proceedings aren't in English?

Well, in French, "understand" is "Comprendre".

"Comp" is something you get free at a casino (gambling)

"rendre" can be misspelled "render", that is, to give.

So if a Quebecois Cop asks if you "comprendre" him, he's really asking, "Do you want to take a gamble on my giving you your freedom?"

See, it's simple.

Sheeple.

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Originally Posted by Horatius
Well, in French, "understand" is "Comprendre".

"Comp" is something you get free at a casino (gambling)

"rendre" can be misspelled "render", that is, to give.

So if a Quebecois Cop asks if you "comprendre" him, he's really asking, "Do you want to take a gamble on my giving you your freedom?"

See, it's simple.

Sheeple.
I never trusted those Franco-Canadans...

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7th December 2012, 10:35 AM #66

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Originally Posted by Metullus
I never trusted those Franco-Canadans...
And them Franco-Americans, selling ersatz Italian food.

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All my four children were born at home, not in a hospital. Incidentally, so was I, and so was my mother. Does that mean I and my children somehow fall outside this madness, and am not a slave of OCollins' fantasy bad guys?

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Originally Posted by Agatha
All my four children were born at home, not in a hospital. Incidentally, so was I, and so was my mother. Does that mean I and my children somehow fall outside this madness, and am not a slave of OCollins' fantasy bad guys?
So was i as was all my brothers and sisters, I didn't even have a birth certificate till I was two.

We may be some of the last free humans.

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Originally Posted by Agatha
All my four children were born at home, not in a hospital. Incidentally, so was I, and so was my mother. Does that mean I and my children somehow fall outside this madness, and am not a slave of OCollins' fantasy bad guys?
Originally Posted by tsig
So was i as was all my brothers and sisters, I didn't even have a birth certificate till I was two.

We may be some of the last free humans.
I think this means you guys legally own the rest of us. Unless we're Moorish, and of course I'm a Moor* so you don't own me, but I think you're allowed to start making rules for everyone else, and maybe even selling off a few of them. I'm not sure what the going rate for slaves is, though and frankly, a lot of our fellow forumites have considerable tread wear, so it might not be all that lucrative. But, hey... owning people must be cool. How's that feel?

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9th December 2012, 08:42 AM #70

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Originally Posted by Agatha
All my four children were born at home, not in a hospital. Incidentally, so was I, and so was my mother. Does that mean I and my children somehow fall outside this madness, and am not a slave of OCollins' fantasy bad guys?
Bad news I'm afraid.
The clues are there: birth canal, waters breaking, it all leads back to admiralty law.

10th December 2012, 02:20 AM #71

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Yup. To quote Loon O' Collins:

Quote:
As you can see by these canons, the size and breath of admiralty is extraordinary. It is hoped this information will assist those facing the pirates and privateers of the private bar guilds who persistently refuse to follow their own rules, their own laws and remain obsessed in destroying any last vestige of rule of law.
It's dead easy to make all law admiralty law when you also define what admiralty law is.

I do enjoy an occasional look at O'Collins though, the extent of his self-imposed lunacy is really something to behold.

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It appears they are about to pass the Presumption of Death Bill:

http://www.lexology.com/library/deta...1-02&utm_term=

Apparently this will make it easier to declare people dead following major events where one can make a fair assumption as to the death of someone without having to wait the 7 years set out in the Cestui que vie act etc.

Isn't this going to remove a major pillar upon which FOTL woo is based?

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2nd January 2013, 07:13 AM #73

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Originally Posted by The Palmernator
It appears they are about to pass the Presumption of Death Bill:

http://www.lexology.com/library/deta...1-02&utm_term=

Apparently this will make it easier to declare people dead following major events where one can make a fair assumption as to the death of someone without having to wait the 7 years set out in the Cestui que vie act etc.

Isn't this going to remove a major pillar upon which FOTL woo is based?
That'll be the day. They'll either:
(a) ignore it (as they do whenever someone points out the repeal of most of the Magna Carta) or
(b) invent new woo based on the new statute

2nd January 2013, 07:30 AM #74

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No, they'll just see these bits:

Quote:
The Bill, if enacted, will simplify the current complex procedures ... it may also operate to cut short the very lengthy delay before a declaration can be made,

..and then claim it's all about making it even easier for The Government to declare you dead, so as to be able to steal all your stuff even sooner.

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2nd January 2013, 07:36 AM #75

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The thing that puzzles me is this...

Under Cestui que vie and every other rebuttal of death act type thing, surely it isn't the Government declaring to you that a person is dead and nicking his stuff, its YOU declaring to the GOVERNMENT that a person is dead so that YOU can nick HIS stuff...? Haven't the FOTLers got it kind of the wrong way round?

Sorry, talking sense again. Nasty habit.

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Originally Posted by The Palmernator
It appears they are about to pass the Presumption of Death Bill:

http://www.lexology.com/library/deta...1-02&utm_term=

Apparently this will make it easier to declare people dead following major events where one can make a fair assumption as to the death of someone without having to wait the 7 years set out in the Cestui que vie act etc.

Isn't this going to remove a major pillar upon which FOTL woo is based?

Since that isn't actually what they say the act does, they'll probably just ignore it. That, or say that it is a special sort of statute that can't ever be amended or repealed, as they do for statutes they approve of such as Magna Carta or the Bill of Rights.

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Quote:
Apparently this will make it easier to declare people dead following major events where one can make a fair assumption as to the death of someone without having to wait the 7 years set out in the Cestui que vie act etc.

Isn't this going to remove a major pillar upon which FOTL woo is based?
Nope, because they misinterpret the act anyway.

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Originally Posted by The Palmernator
Haven't the FOTLers got it kind of the wrong way round?

The answer to that question is, almost invariably, always "Yes".

Yes, they have it completely backwards, but for a group that on at least one occasion have asserted that the word "must" actually means "may" when used in statute law, simply getting the intended purpose of a law completely backwards isn't much of a stretch.

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Franks goes there!! The alien origins of humanity

http://blog.ucadia.com/2013/01/origi...of-of-our.html

Oh dear.

I enjoyed the bit about the 8 ft Neaderthals though.

Archaic alien slave plantations?

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