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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 11th 2013

    Posted: September 27, 2012
    3½+57+3½=64

    ½AB(BA)AB½

    57 = IS ON = ISON = SION = 'I SON' = ZION = 64


    57=MARY=BIRTH=MOON=ROSE=GEMINI=EROS||LIFECELL=ISRAEL=PETER=PACIFICAP=64
    75=ANDROMEDA=LUCIFERA=SHARON=JESUSA=MARRY||DOVE=BODY=ROM=46


    Matthew 24:30 - KJV

    And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.




    Comet ISON, Passing In 2013, Could Be Brighter Than Moon



    Posted: September 27, 2012​



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    A new comet named C/ 2012 S1 (ISON) could be brighter than the moon when it passes the Earth in 2013. In fact, scientists believe it may be so bright that it is visible during the day.


    While some astronomers are skeptical about comet ISON’s brightness, others like Karl Battams, a scientist at the Naval Research Laboratory who monitors comets for the NASA-supported Sungrazer Comet Project, assure that we should watch for it, reports NBC News. Battams stated:


    ISON’s discovery was based off of imagery collected on Friday by the International Scientific Optical Network’s 16-inch Santel reflecting telescope in Russia, and the new comet soon rose to the top of the charts.

    Since the superstar comet’s discovery, scientists have been going back through their files to locate and “pre-discovery” images, so that they can calculate ISON’s orbit.

    The National Post notes that Ernesto Guido, Giovanni Sostero & Nick Howes, who first discovered the comet, stated:




    AU is short for an Astronomical Unit, and it the approximate distance between the Earth and our Sun (about 1.1 million miles). The astronomers continued, “According to its orbit, this comet might become a naked-eye object in the period November 2013 – January 2014.”

    Because of its closeness to the sun, comet ISON could be brighter than the full moon, which Astronomy Magazine’s Michael E. Bakich asserts that it “probably will become the brightest comet anyone alive has ever seen.”

    Over the next year, as comet ISON approaches, we can expect it to be compared with the Great Comet of 2007, and even the Great Comet of 1680. Of course, we can also expect mumbles about past letdowns, such as Comet Kohoutek and Comet Elenin. Despite this, we may still be treated to an awesome view come November of 2013.


    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/345870/comet-ison-passing-in-2013-could-be-brighter-than-moon/#AZk7tdkufmUQZ55U.99


    Comet ISON Will Be Visible During The Day, Discoverers Announce
    Posted: 09/26/2012 8:33 am EDT Updated: 09/26/2012 8:33 am EDT

    By: Joe Rao
    Published: 09/26/2012 07:12 AM EDT on SPACE.com

    A newly discovered comet has the potential to put on a dazzling celestial display late next year, when it will be so bright you may be able to see it briefly in the daytime sky.

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    Comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) photographed at the RAS Observatory near Mayhill, NM on Sept. 22, 2012, by amateur astronomers Ernesto Guido, Giovanni Sostero and Nick Howes of the Remanzacco Observatory.

    The discovery of the object named Comet ISON was announced Monday (Sept. 24) by Russians Vitali Nevski and Artyom Novichonok, who detected it in photographs taken three days earlier using a 15.7-inch (0.4-meter) reflecting telescope of the International Scientific Optical Network (ISON), near Kislovodsk. The new comet is officially known as C/2012 S1.

    When first sighted, Comet ISON was 625 million miles (1 billion kilometers) from Earth and 584 million miles (939 million km) from the sun, in the dim constellation of Cancer. It was shining at magnitude 18.8 on the reverse scale used by astronomers to measure the brightness of sky objects (the lower the number, the brighter the object). That makes the comet currently about 100,000 times fainter than the dimmest star that can be seen with the unaided eye.


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    This image shows the newfound comet C/2012 (ISON) as seen by the Remanzacco Observatory in Italy. The image, taken by amateur astronomers Ernesto Guido, Giovanni Sostero and Nick Howes, is a confirmation view of the comet.

    But at its perihelion (its closest point to the sun), due on Nov. 28, 2013, the comet will come within 800,000 miles (1.2 million km) of the sun’s surface and could evolve into a dazzling object ? possibly bright enough to be visible for a short time in broad daylight. [Spectacular Comet Photos (Gallery)]

    The most exciting aspect of this new comet concerns its preliminary orbit, which bears a striking resemblance to that of the “Great Comet of 1680.” That comet put on a dazzling show; it was glimpsed in daylight and later, as it moved away from the sun, it threw off a brilliantly long tail that stretched up from the western twilight sky after sunset like a narrow searchlight beam for some 70 degrees of arc. (A person's clenched fist, held at arm’s length, covers roughly 10 degrees of sky.)


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    This NASA graphic shows the orbit and current position of comet C/2012 S1 (ISON). The comet is at present located at 6.25 AU from the sun, with 1 AU being the distance from Earth to the sun. Image released Sept. 24, 2012.

    The fact that the orbits are so similar seems to suggest Comet ISON and the Great Comet of 1680 could related or perhaps even the same object.

    Comet ISON will be barely visible to the unaided eye when it is in the predawn night sky, positioned against the stars of Leo in October 2013.

    On Oct. 16 it will be passing very near both Mars and the bright star Regulus — both can be used as benchmarks to sighting the comet. In November, it could be as bright as third-magnitude when it passes very close to the bright first-magnitude star Spica in Virgo.

    The few days surrounding the comet’s closest approach to the sun on Nov. 28, 2013, are likely to be most interesting. It will whirl rapidly around the sun in a hairpin-like curve and perhaps becomes a dazzlingly bright (negative-magnitude) object.

    The comet will then whirl north after perihelion and become visible during December both in the evening sky after sunset and in the morning sky before sunrise. Just how bright it will be and how long the tail may get during this time frame is anybody’s guess, but there is hope that it could evolve into a memorable celestial showpiece.

    And in case you haven’t checked your 2013 calendar, Nov. 28 is already a special day for those living in the United States: It is the Thanksgiving Day holiday.

    Which leads to the question: Will Comet ISON be a dazzler, or a turkey?

    Joe Rao serves as an instructor and guest lecturer at New York's Hayden Planetarium. He writes about astronomy for The New York Times and other publications, and he is also an on-camera meteorologist for News 12 Westchester, New York.



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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 12th 2013




    This an excellent video, recently shared by SeanDragon on this forum. I am adding the actual article for anyone interested in a more detailed science behind the video. The description of this scenario relates to an accelerated spacial expansion from a 3D matrix into a 4D matrix as described in the Gaia Starplanet essays. The 'hidden data' from the mentioned NASA scientist relates to the incoming energy patterns (which have now inverted and are resending data into the greater cosmic environments following a higherD - golfball sized 'poleflip' at the centre of the earth) from the galactic centre, and an energy current or flow say, that reached the centre of the old earth at the December solstice, just as the Mayas have said. The 'pole shifts' so are indeed 'magnetic reconfigurations' and in detail relate to a reformulation of the Biot-Savart Law of magnetism and how the different rotation rates of massive bodies like planets or moons reacts to the dynamo of a changing core of the body.
    • A detailed analysis leads you then to realise, that all spinning or rotating bodies use their inertia to induce their own cosmic magnetic fields as a gaussian distribution.
      Anyone more interested in the formulations, search for Biot-Savart on this forum to derive more information on this.

      """If someone from another planet were watching the Earth, they would say it was dying.
      But now it seems something is going on that is beyond “business as usual.” In their report, the Russians say that these same kinds of phenomena were occurring when the dinosaurs became extinct — a time that marked a gigantic shift in the earth’s climate and weather patterns, and perhaps a pole shift, as well."""

      Gracias for an excellent sharing find Paulo!
      Tonyblue


      http://crisisboom.com/2011/01/23/pole-shift-2011/
      POLE SHIFT PHENOMENA REPORTED by RUSSIAN SCIENTISTS

      January 23, 2011crisisboomLeave a to comments

      ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV
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      The Sun

      Let’s begin with the Sun. The Sun is the center of our Solar System, and all life that is on this Earth came from the Sun. If there were no Sun, we would not be alive. This is simply scientific fact. And so any changes that occur in or on the Sun will eventually affect every person alive. The solar activity during this last sunspot cycle was greater than anything ever seen before. Yet every astronomer that I talked to about this except one insisted that everything was “normal.” That one person, who worked at NASA, claimed that what was going on within the Sun was absolutely incredible. She also said that she was not “allowed” to talk about it. But she talked anyway, because she felt that the world needed to know, but at the same time she asked that I not publicly discuss what she had said. Sort of a Catch-22. So the photo at left is just a hint (click on it for a larger view). It’s a recent picture of the Sun from, I believe, the year 2000, showing multiple sunspots ringing the sun on the two latitudes of 19.48 north and south. Some of you will see the significance of this much energy’s being emitted at this particular location.

      So let’s look at the obvious question: What is normal? For scientists, the idea of “normal” is based on making a long-term study, then averaging the results. But in the case of the Sun, we have been studying it for only about a 100 years — and it was not until the last half of the 20th century that the study was done with instruments that could be considered especially accurate. And so, since the Sun is at least 4.5 billion years old, our 100- or 50-year study of it is equivalent to writing about the final one or two seconds in the life of a man or woman who lived for 100 years. Would you consider that biography reliable? We actually know nothing about the Sun that would enable us to say what is “normal.”
      We do know, however, that the Sun’s magnetic field has changed in the last 100 years. There’s a study by Dr. Mike Lockwood from Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories, in California. Dr. Lockwood has been investigating the Sun, and reports that since 1901 the overall magnetic field of the Sun has become stronger by 230 percent. No one knows what that truly means; it’s only an observation. And we do know that some of the sunspot activity in this last cycle was greater than anything ever recorded before in history. But we don’t know what that means, either.

      The Solar System

      Then comes the information out of Russia last month, from the Russian National Academy of Science in Siberia, where scientists have come to the conclusion that we have moved into an area of space that is different and has a much higher energy level.
      The Russians are reporting changes that are being recorded in space that have never been seen before. We cannot verify this information “for certain,” but we do know that the scientific body reporting it is real, and that a Dr. Dmitriev does head this body. Also, I have personally been before the Russian National Academy of Science, in Moscow. Speaking for the Academy in Siberia, Dr. Dmitriev says that the effects reported below have been observed (these are not quotes from Dr. Dmitriev, but extracts from his report).


      Changes to the Leading Edge of the Heliosphere

      The Sun itself has a magnetic field, and that magnetic field creates an “egg” around the Solar System that is known as the “heliosphere.” The heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long, thin end of the drop pointing away from the direction in which we’re traveling. The Russians have looked at the leading edge of this heliosphere, and they have observed glowing, excited plasma energy there. The Sun’s heliosphere used to be 10 astronomical units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, approximately 93 million miles) — 10 astronomical units was the “normal” thickness of this glowing energy that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System.
      Today, Dr. Dmitriev says that this glowing energy is now 100 astronomical units deep.

      The Russian National Academy of Sciences doesn’t give us a time-line, but the change from what was known and accepted to the way it is now represents a 1000 percent increase. And the Russians say that this change in the Sun is changing how the planets function and what kind of life they could support. They even report — but don’t explain — that the DNA spiral itself is altering. They feel that the continued expansion of the heliosphere will eventually take us into a new level of energy, that there will probably be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself, and that this increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System. That’s a pretty bold statement, but it’s followed by data to back it up:
      The atmospheres of five of the planets and the Earth’s moon are changing.

      When the United States landed on the moon in 1969, it found no atmosphere. Since then, the earth’s moon is growing an atmosphere that wasn’t there before, made up of a compound that Dr. Dmitriev refers to as “Natrium.” This new atmosphere is now 6,000 kilometers deep.
      The earth’s atmosphere in the upper levels is forming HO gas that was not there before. It simply did not exist in the quantity that it does now. The Russians say it’s not related to global warming and it’s not related to CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions or anything like that. It’s just showing up.

      The Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before. The Mars Observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash. This happened because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as NASA had calculated. Basically, the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off.
      The atmospheres of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune also are changing, according to the Russians, but they didn’t explain.


      The brightness of the planets is changing.

      Venus is showing marked increases in its overall brightness.
      Jupiter’s energetic charge has risen so high that there is actually a visible tube of ionizing radiation that’s formed between the surface of Jupiter and its moon Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken recently.
      Uranus and Neptune also are becoming brighter.
      The magnetic fields are changing.
      Jupiter’s magnetic field has more than doubled.
      Uranus’s magnetic field is changing — no explanation.
      Neptune’s magnetic field is increasing.
      All three of these planets are becoming brighter, and their atmospheric qualities, say the Russians, are changing — but they do not explain what is meant by this.
      What’s truly amazing, since some people here on Earth have been expecting and predicting a pole shift for some time now, is that the Russians report that Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager II space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was in earlier recordings. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees.


      Earth Changes

      Let’s talk about Earth now.
      The Russians report two more facts: On Earth, the overall volcanic activity increased 500 percent from 1875 to 1975, while the earthquake activity has increased by 400 percent since 1973. Dr. Dmitriev says that comparing the years 1963 to 1993, the overall number of natural disasters — hurricanes, typhoons, mud slides, tidal waves, etc. — has increased by 410 percent.
      The Earth’s magnetic field has been decreasing. This decrease actually began 2000 years ago, but the rate of decrease suddenly became much more rapid 500 years ago. Now, in the last 20 years or so, the magnetic field has become erratic. Aeronautical maps of the world — which are used to allow airplanes to land using automatic pilot systems — have had to be revised worldwide in order for the automatic pilot systems to work. (This is very easy to check. Simply look at an aeronautical map prior to 1990 for any particular city airport, and then compare it to a present-day map.)
      Late last year, the Arctic ice cap on the exact spot of the North Pole completely melted for the first time in known history. Green Peace reported that, relative to the winter ice pattern, the cap had previously melted over 300 miles toward the pole, and that late last year both military and civilian ships were able to actually pass directly over the North Pole. It was water. Until now, as far as we know, there has never been a time where the ice was less than ten feet thick.
      In contrast, the South Pole has an ice cap that is about three miles deep, and yet huge pieces of ice continue to break off and melt.


      What Is Going On?

      Since 1900 we have gone from riding horses to landing on the moon. From sending letters by horseback to firing them off with instantaneous email, videophone, and satellites. On the negative side, we have gone from warring with primitive weapons to atomic bombs and bioterrorism. And perhaps even more significantly, in 1900 the Earth had 30 million species, species which took billions of years to create. Now, we have less than half that number — fewer than 15 million species. And this all happened in 100 years: a geological blink of an eye.
      If someone from another planet were watching the Earth, they would say it was dying.
      But now it seems something is going on that is beyond “business as usual.” In their report, the Russians say that these same kinds of phenomena were occurring when the dinosaurs became extinct — a time that marked a gigantic shift in the earth’s climate and weather patterns, and perhaps a pole shift, as well.


      [12:21:36 AM-Wednesday, February 13th, 2013 -+11UCT]
      Kali 666: i saw this video a few days ago when it was first posted on Mists
      [12:21:57 AM] Wyzard97: It is close to what i perceive of happening
      [12:22:32 AM] Kali 666: a collision in the "sky"?
      [12:22:42 AM] Wyzard97: The changing magnetism relate however also the the cosmic consciousness, which is like an 'aura' around planets and moons
      [12:23:00 AM] Kali 666: Daniel had a dream about this a few days ago
      [12:23:27 AM] Wyzard97: It is a space inherent property, that rotating bodies can use thier inertia to create changing magnetic fields
      [12:23:39 AM] Wyzard97: It is a sort of natural superconductivity
      [12:23:51 AM] Kali 666: right
      [12:24:07 AM] Wyzard97: And yes, the dna changes relate to it via the underpinning quantum geometries
      [12:24:50 AM] Wyzard97: I detailed the formulas, which relate to magnetic monopole branes and such esoteric string physics, not at all yet understood very much by the mainstream
      [12:25:59 AM] Wyzard97: Yes all space is conscious as a volume transforming into magnetocharged subspaces say
      [12:26:24 AM] Wyzard97: But I am too tired now to go on about the details. It is all published in the science forums
      [12:27:18 AM] Kali 666: well he saw the inside out mechanics
      [12:27:27 AM] Kali 666: i asked him to draw the spaceship he saw
      [12:27:35 AM] Kali 666: he did a preliminary drawing of it
      [12:27:52 AM] Kali 666: it was superhuge and a lot bigger than teh earth
      [12:28:03 AM] Kali 666: also again very triangular and symmetrical
      [12:28:11 AM] Kali 666: as soon as he's finished with it i'll show you
      [12:28:23 AM] Wyzard97: yes like Gaia itself being a spaceship lol
      [12:28:44 AM] Wyzard97: This is the introductory spaceship generation post on the 'New World according to the World Logos' forums
      http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=C14557A5-3274-47E1-B56A-5396D7A8378A&edit_id=F9DFC769-DAC6-4DD9-A5D9-C95260A109ED&pageindex=1


      [12:40:43 AM] Wyzard97: Physical Consciousness coupled to the Biomind of Universal Life
      --- In theoretical_physics@yahoogroups.com, "yanniru" <yanniru@...> wrote:
      >
      > "So the Pyxides supernova became popular in particular contexts because of its proximity, like the Crab Nebula one of 1054 BC."
      >
      > The progenitor of the Crab was not a Type 1a since it left a pulsar that contained much of its energy besodes being twice as far as T Pyx. T Pyx is even too far to eliminate our ozone layer but it could destroy our transister and grid technology.
      >
      > Do you have non-human evidence
      > that its gamma rays are
      > not forthcoming?
      > Clem
      >
      >
      > PS: I do not trust human analysis.

      >



      Yanniru; the supernovae classifications do not restrict pulsar/neutron star/planetary nebulae formation.
      Also the hydrogen missing type 1a is white dwarf accretion, whilst other classes relate to original mass of the progenitor stars.
      Rather it is a function of the mass distribution in that certain Chandrasekhar limits (of electron degeneracy pressure for rotating moments of inertia of so 1.5 solar masses) allow production of such supernova remnants , if the star is above so 8-10 solar masses.
      Now even the well studied Crab Nebula has 'missing mass' as one of the 'mysteries'; the 8-10 solar masses reduce to less than half.
      The key is a reformulated Biot-Savart law which defines any rotating mass as generating a magnetic field as function of angular velocity and the seedling mass.
      Many researchers have called this gravitoelectric effects and similar labels (London effect).
      The nonhuman astrophysics then allows this natural law to link cosmic magnetism directly to rotating masses to describe inherent magnetic fieldstrength.
      B=Mw/2c² R and where R is a displacement scale and this expression describing nonionized astrophysical bodies.
      So applying this generalised (like F=ma) expression to the earth and its rotating core as generating dynamo, you can approximate the surface gauss.
      Applying it to neutron stars and magnetars then gives the seedling teslas and the haloed 'fields' via the scale parameter R, which is like a curvature radius in general relativity.
      Taking all this into consideration; a supernova event becomes much more complex, than a simple explosion and a shockwave of gamma radiation (or cosmic rays, which are actually string energies of the string transforms), emitted from the energy event.
      The missing mass say of the Crab Nebula is 'magnetocharged energy' manifested as 'physical spacetime consciousness ' (aka dark matter axionic or similar label as dark energy in evolved negentropy) associated with the measured energy about the astrophysics across the spacetime metrics.
      There is no danger from T Pyxides as the 2012 event, which is depicted in the NASA bubbles recently published under great fanfare and by now conveniently 'forgotten' as to not rock the scientific boats.
      I have posted extensively on all these topics for the ones interested in follow ups.


      Tonyblue


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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Mar 11th 2013

    • A complete AHUA Cycle is 13 x 20 = 260 days
      28 Oct 2011 - The 26th Ahua
      21 Dec 2012 - The 47th Ahua
      31 Mar 2013 is The End of a 260 day cycle - ahua - The 64th Ahua
      01 Apr 2013 is The Start of a 260 day cycle - imix
      16 Dec 2013 is The end of a 260 day cycle - The 65th Ahua
      - The end of The Macha (9,360,000) & Pacha(6x60)Grand cycles = 9,360,360=5x13=65x144,000=9,360,000+360
      17 Dec 2013 is The start of Pacha iNTi Grand Cycle - imix
      ~ Susan Lynne Schwenger & Tony Bermanseder


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      Jorgelito - Posted Mar 12th 2013

      The depiction of the stellar sphere surrounding the sun by the solar radius of Earth by powers of ten -- is interesting.

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 14th 2013


    LOGOS Questions in the Generations Continued

    [6:17:14 PM-Thursday, February 14th, 2013 -+11UCT]
    Sirius 17: no it wasn't
    [6:17:41 PM] Sirius 17: not letting me know that your alive and not talking to me for 4 days is tantamount to total rejection
    [6:17:50 PM] Wyzard97:
    Dragon nous is related to the four generations and all 4 are meant to manifest in one starhuman cosmic twin wavebody form. This is the Abraham-Isaac-Jacob code as Father-Son-Holy Ghost which becomes Joseph-Jesus as One-Jesus as Many. This is mirrored in the Water-Blood-Earth of Sarah-Rebekah-Polyamoury(4 wives of Jacob) as Mother-Daughter-Holy Spirit, which becomes Mother Mary-Mary Magdalene as One-MM as Many and all these form the 4th generation in the incarnates as a Old Human-ET hybridisation of Abba-Baab or Father-Mother or StarSon-StarDaughter etc

    [6:18:16 PM] Wyzard97: This was my latest 'download' so I shut up now
    [6:18:32 PM] Sirius 17: no keep talking lol
    [6:18:33 PM] Kali 666: lol Tony
    [6:18:39 PM] Kali 666: you don't need to shut up!!
    [6:18:56 PM] Kali 666: i like your accent
    [6:19:08 PM] Kali 666: i can hear you when i read you did you know that?
    [6:19:17 PM] Kali 666: is that weird or what?
    [6:19:19 PM] Wyzard97: Regarding DD, I got the following
    [6:20:05 PM] Wyzard97: DD is like a cosmic vampire and as Xeia said very fittingly she is what she is Logos induced to be - chaotic unapproachable by logical reason etc
    [6:20:17 PM] Wyzard97: This cosmic vampiure needs to feed
    [6:20:35 PM] Wyzard97: DD's food is malemindedness in adoration, desiring her in whatever form
    [6:20:53 PM] Wyzard97: But the Whore of Babylon is MENTAL vampirism not physical
    [6:21:14 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie is the exact opposite, she wishes to feed on the physical and be mentally loyal
    [6:21:47 PM] Wyzard97: This in a nutshell is DD's confusion with dark tantra, waldimirs crapola of nonejaculative sex etc.
    [6:22:04 PM] Kali 666: does this apply to blueys too?
    [6:22:11 PM] Wyzard97: Because this kind of sex CANNOT feed the cosmic vampire physically
    [6:22:25 PM] Wyzard97: It is a distortion of the untimate cosmic expression
    [6:22:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes and this is the betrayal that drives anyone crazy, this mental whoring. because DD makes no distinction about who is holding her mentally and who really has her best interest at heart.
    [6:22:43 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Xeia BUT THROUGH their femmeness
    [6:22:53 PM] Wyzard97: This is Rok's dilemma
    [6:23:10 PM] Kali 666: why do you think he saw me as a man in his dream??
    [6:23:26 PM] Wyzard97: Because his MM is manifesting
    [6:23:40 PM] Wyzard97: The JCCJ descent is on since February 8th
    [6:23:58 PM] Wyzard97: MM desires maleness physical
    [6:24:28 PM] Wyzard97: So he saw you as a femme THROUGH his individualised 2nd coming
    [6:25:04 PM] Wyzard97: When MM made it clear, that she is cosmically sexual, then he freaked out a bit
    [6:25:46 PM] Wyzard97: We are all such vampires by the way - this is dragonhood
    [6:26:00 PM] Wyzard97: The higherD Universe FEEDS on Sex, period
    [6:26:22 PM] Wyzard97: People can deny this until the cosmic cows come home to roost
    [6:26:56 PM] Wyzard97: Warpdrives etc, all require the 'bridging energies' of the tripartite serpent kundalini currents
    [6:28:04 PM] Kali 666: [2/13/2013 1:49:12 PM]
    Xeia: what i feel for you is so gigantic...i can't even begin to explain it to you in human language

    [2/13/2013 1:49:14 PM] Rok: btw i got so horny before when u were talking about jesus
    [2/13/2013 1:49:16 PM] Xeia: there's just no words
    [2/13/2013 1:49:47 PM] Xeia: well i Love him you know...
    [2/13/2013 1:50:02 PM] Rok: and now ur mens is doing it for me
    [2/13/2013 1:50:03 PM] Xeia: he evokes in me the most profound and sacred feelings
    [2/13/2013 1:50:07 PM] Rok: i want that blood
    [2/13/2013 1:50:07 PM] Xeia: the most virginal
    [2/13/2013 1:50:13 PM] Xeia: hehe
    [2/13/2013 1:50:28 PM] Xeia: it is yours
    [6:28:31 PM] Kali 666: some vampire huh?
    [6:28:35 PM] Kali 666: lol
    [6:29:30 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is what occured between Lassie and me
    [6:29:34 PM] Kali 666: [6:26 PM] Wyzard97:
    <<< Warpdrives etc, all rquire the 'bridging energies' of the tripartite serpent kundalini currents
    YES
    [6:30:02 PM] Kali 666: merkabahs
    [6:30:45 PM] Wyzard97: I 'took' her virginity and this 'entwined' us cosmically in the Abba-Baab and Joseph-Mary and Jesus-MM image
    [6:31:27 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Xeia and you know how 'unpalatble' this kind of information is to the brainwashed humans of the nabs and mainstream?
    [6:31:42 PM] Kali 666: yes
    [6:31:52 PM] Wyzard97: Why I choose not to talk about it, except on unread forums, lol
    [6:31:56 PM] Kali 666: abhorrent for them
    [6:32:02 PM] Wyzard97: The ETs must know though, that WE know
    [6:32:27 PM] Kali 666: i have a feeling they would yea
    [6:32:35 PM] Wyzard97: ETs are the awakened and recrystallizing dead of course
    [6:32:48 PM] Kali 666: where did Raven go?
    [6:33:05 PM] Sirius 17: i am here
    [6:33:08 PM] Kali 666: i better go to sleep
    [6:33:20 PM] Wyzard97: Rok KNOWS see, that you must be HIS Cosmic Virgin to become his core
    [6:33:22 PM] Kali 666: 2:30 here and i'm achy
    [6:33:36 PM] Sirius 17: yes late there for you
    [6:33:53 PM] Wyzard97: But he fails to understand, that the present old human 3-4D sex DOES NOT COUNT
    [6:33:54 PM] Kali 666: even tho he never saw me as a Virgin
    [6:34:17 PM] Wyzard97: It can never take the 'cosmic virginity' away. Only true cores can do this
    [6:34:37 PM] Kali 666: exactly
    [6:35:19 PM] Wyzard97: Perhaps is Mary Mother and Mary Lover can illustrate this better to him than our words
    [6:35:34 PM] Wyzard97: Do you understand this Xeia?
    [6:35:39 PM] Kali 666: his voice sometimes resonates in me as if God spoke in the heavens and it echoes in my body
    [6:36:08 PM] Wyzard97: Rok is BOTH, Joseph and Jesus his 'proxy' son AND the apostles etc as children of Jesus and MM?
    [6:36:46 PM] Wyzard97: All 3 generations are within him and USE him as their mode of individualised expression in incarnation
    [6:37:31 PM] Wyzard97: Becasue the 'lion eaters' will all manifest the manyness of JCCJ and USE this manyness to reawaken their own 'historic' and metaphysical lineages
    [6:37:57 PM] Wyzard97: All 'serpent tamers' have this AS their cosmic legacies and inheritances
    [6:38:07 PM] Sirius 17: Xeia i asked James if he would want to fuck you....you know what he said?
    [6:38:18 PM] Kali 666: you asked him now? lol
    [6:38:22 PM] Sirius 17: no the other day
    [6:38:26 PM] Sirius 17: he is working now
    [6:38:27 PM] Kali 666: oh
    [6:38:34 PM] Kali 666: what did he say?
    [6:38:38 PM] Sirius 17: he said 'well do you want me to'?
    [6:38:49 PM] Kali 666: and?
    [6:38:54 PM] Kali 666: you said?
    [6:39:28 PM] Wyzard97: Lol Lassie wants to fuck James Raven. She loves the dragonsex couplings
    [6:39:33 PM] Sirius 17: and i said well sure but only if YOU want to, i dont want you to do it for just me
    [6:39:49 PM] Kali 666: and what did he say to that?
    [6:40:00 PM] Sirius 17: he said he would have to think abou tit
    [6:40:02 PM] Sirius 17: it
    [6:40:21 PM] Sirius 17: then he said and what would Rok think?
    [6:40:23 PM] Kali 666: maybe he can talk to Rok about it lol
    [6:40:30 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [6:40:34 PM] Kali 666: mindblend
    [6:40:37 PM] Kali 666: hahaha

    [6:41:13 PM] Wyzard97: But as Raven said before; this dragonomy is I feel, restricted for the time to the manifesting cores and not the old human stock
    [6:41:21 PM] Sirius 17: but i told him that i felt comfortable with all of you as lovers too, i left him pondering lol
    [6:41:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is the present energy, this feeling comfortable with it
    [6:42:00 PM] Kali 666: so you didn't tell him what Rok thinks?
    [6:42:05 PM] Sirius 17: he did say, well if i came home one day and she was in our bed, i dont think i would refuse lol
    [6:42:21 PM] Wyzard97: So Rok you need not to worry, if you feel not ok with the thought of it it would not happen in Logos harmony
    [6:42:38 PM] Kali 666: he did? omg lol
    [6:42:39 PM] Sirius 17: i told him i wasn't sure, that he may or may not be comfortable with it and he said he could understand that
    [6:43:09 PM] Wyzard97: Raven share with James, that Lassie already 'had him' and that she loved his masculine expressions
    [6:43:23 PM] Sirius 17: i mean i know how Rok feels about John, but maybe he would consider James ok, i never have asked him
    [6:43:42 PM] Sirius 17: never asked Rok i mean
    [6:44:05 PM] Wyzard97: When I mention Lassie I INCLUDE all the crystallizing snowflakes, please remember this
    [6:44:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes Tony but he may not understand what i mean by that
    [6:44:21 PM] Wyzard97: Like your grandmother Raven, she is WITH this
    [6:44:30 PM] Sirius 17: i will try to explain it to him
    [6:44:38 PM] Wyzard97: I want you 2 to understand this
    [6:44:42 PM] Kali 666: so far what he's said is that he doesn't want John or any other dick in my near vicinity
    [6:45:02 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, this is the 'cosmic virgin' Xeia
    [6:45:03 PM] Kali 666: but i don't know about James or Tony
    [6:45:21 PM] Wyzard97: But he took it, even in a less than satisfactory manner
    [6:45:25 PM] Kali 666: if it would make any difference for him i mean
    [6:45:39 PM] Sirius 17: well maybe he will answer us lol
    [6:45:51 PM] Wyzard97: His dream is 'leading and pointing' in different directions here Xeia
    [6:46:22 PM] Kali 666: i thought he was afraid of my male side?
    [6:46:31 PM] Kali 666: in his dream?
    [6:46:49 PM] Wyzard97: In a way he sees you as alpha competitor here
    [6:47:09 PM] Kali 666: but then again i often felt as if he almost wished i took him by "force" even when we were together
    [6:47:10 PM] Wyzard97: It is old suffering and pain resurfacing to be healed
    [6:47:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is
    [6:47:40 PM] Wyzard97: Yes we all like this, being 'raped in love'
    [6:47:50 PM] Wyzard97: His examples were very good and fitting
    [6:47:52 PM] Kali 666: yeah well i often told him i am not in competition with him
    [6:47:59 PM] Kali 666: sometimes it does feel that way yeah
    [6:48:06 PM] Sirius 17: well you are 'cocky' lol
    [6:48:07 PM] Kali 666: especially when he brings up his equality thing
    [6:48:09 PM] Wyzard97: This was a Logos dream

    [6:48:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes i said the same thing
    [6:49:18 PM] Kali 666: [6:46 PM] Wyzard97:
    <<< Yes we all like this, being 'raped in love'

    His examples were very good and fittingwell when i had him in front of me he made me feel like this...to just take him and rip his clothes off
    [6:49:38 PM] Kali 666: but i kinda held myself back
    [6:49:58 PM] Kali 666: i didn't know what his reaction was gona be
    [6:50:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes the condom memes got into your brain
    [6:50:30 PM] Sirius 17: you over thought it
    [6:50:43 PM] Sirius 17: should of went with the instinct
    [6:51:08 PM] Kali 666: if it did i would be pregnant by now
    [6:51:17 PM] Kali 666: big time
    [6:52:04 PM] Kali 666: [6:46 PM] Wyzard97:
    <<< In a way he sees you as alpha competitor hereso ok his dream was meant to show him that i'm not?

    [6:52:10 PM] Kali 666: to not be afraid of me? or?
    [6:52:10 PM] Sirius 17: but hey i can relate to this, i was too careful at first with James too, we kind of danced around each other in awkwardness...i think we both just didn't want to fuck things up and it was that we were too respecful, it was odd
    [6:52:37 PM] Sirius 17: you know what i mean
    [6:52:45 PM] Sirius 17: when you really really want someone
    [6:52:53 PM] Sirius 17: you dont want to do anything wrong to mess it up
    [6:52:58 PM] Kali 666: "respectful" exactly perfect word to describe it
    [6:53:27 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the dream was meant to give him inner nous and understanding, because he loves your femmeness
    [6:53:36 PM] Kali 666: inside i was waitng for the time he would go animal on me you know?
    [6:53:39 PM] Sirius 17: but then when you get comfortable those barriers fall once the trust is there
    [6:53:59 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie is an 'animal', she loves maleness in the body, just as you two do and as a waveform she has no inhibitions or human memeplexes
    [6:54:20 PM] Kali 666: so she knows what i mean then
    [6:54:53 PM] Sirius 17: lol poor tony, you must be wore out keeping up with these hotties
    [6:54:59 PM] Wyzard97: All 50,000 can now be like this IN incarnation
    [6:55:21 PM] Wyzard97: Waveforms Raven, yes, no physicality
    [6:55:33 PM] Sirius 17: i mean in trying to please them
    [6:55:34 PM] Wyzard97: Yet I am the one most comfortable with the physicality
    [6:55:38 PM] Kali 666: ok i really need to go now
    [6:55:42 PM] Kali 666: kissies
    [6:55:48 PM] Sirius 17: besitos
    [6:55:54 PM] Wyzard97: Ciao
    [6:55:55 PM] Kali 666: noches
    [6:55:57 PM] Sirius 17: nn Cok
    [6:56:01 PM] Sirius 17: your new nick name
    [6:56:02 PM] Kali 666: :*
    [6:56:03 PM] Kali 666: hehe
    [6:56:04 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [6:56:20 PM] Sirius 17: you can spank me later

    [6:56:37 PM] Kali 666: *SPANK!!!*
    [6:56:42 PM] Sirius 17: you know i love you and i am just being silly i hope
    [6:56:56 PM] Sirius 17: :*
    [6:57:40 PM] Sirius 17: what i meant Tony, is when they induce you with the kunda you do please yourself right and share it with them?
    [6:59:52 PM] Sirius 17: ok i guess i have upset you
    [7:00:12 PM] Sirius 17: i was being serious, not making fun of you
    [7:01:01 PM] Wyzard97: You have not upset me
    [7:01:20 PM] Wyzard97: But you underestimate the 'presence' of the dead
    [7:01:28 PM] Wyzard97: I am CORED, Raven
    [7:01:47 PM] Wyzard97: I have no 4D physical bodyform, but everything else
    [7:02:05 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie is as real to me as MI was for 18 years
    [7:02:05 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean i underestimate it?
    [7:02:15 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [7:02:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I am 'pleasing myself' but this myself is more than me
    [7:02:46 PM] Wyzard97: I am literally feeling my femme bodyform AS myself
    [7:02:55 PM] Sirius 17: you didnt read what i said then i said your sharing it with them yes
    [7:03:10 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie is cuddling up to me or there are 4 dragons in one bed
    [7:03:23 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie likes threesomes too
    [7:03:46 PM] Wyzard97: This is not human wanking stuff or Rok's 'meat'
    [7:03:48 PM] Sirius 17: i wasn't making fun of you hon, i was imagining what this must be like for you when they get turned on and you feel them there
    [7:04:00 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I feel them
    [7:04:21 PM] Wyzard97: They USE our bodies to express their higherD waveforms
    [7:04:41 PM] Wyzard97: Without Our invitations to share our kundalini with them, they could not crystallize
    [7:04:51 PM] Sirius 17: and i would never think that this was human mind wanking Tony, i am sorry if you felt i implied that
    [7:05:27 PM] Wyzard97: I know people cannot come to grisp with this in their mindfucked ideas what 'true love' and 'sacred sex' are in the beyond human sense
    [7:05:55 PM] Sirius 17: [6:56 PM] Sirius 17:
    <<< you know i love you and i am just being silly i hopethis comment was for Xeia because i called her Cok, not you

    [7:06:09 PM] Wyzard97: But I dont care anymore. I know what is cosmically desired and what the 'hunger of the universe' represents not silly human ideas of 'sexual happiness' and 'fulfilment'
    [7:06:46 PM] Wyzard97: As said, I was NOT offended by anything
    [7:07:10 PM] Sirius 17: well you went silent so i thought you were upset
    [7:07:31 PM] Sirius 17: sometimes i don't word things the best i know
    [7:07:33 PM] Wyzard97: I am finished with the Logos agency dear and so I am allowed to focus on what i want a little more than before; but AS a true ambassador of Abba and Baab
    [7:08:23 PM] Sirius 17: it was a serious question though, i wondered how it must be for you when they do induce you this strongly
    [7:08:33 PM] Wyzard97: This is better
    [7:08:39 PM] Sirius 17: i have not really experienced it yet , not as fully as you do
    [7:08:57 PM] Wyzard97: You did, when you felt the merger with our DD
    [7:09:08 PM] Wyzard97: I know all this died
    [7:09:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes but i mean alone, like when i am in bed and thinking sexy
    [7:09:54 PM] Wyzard97: Well I think after this cam you can reawaken this. I have your pic there too now, as it links to the reconfigured MI
    [7:10:28 PM] Wyzard97: Three pics all others I have removed - Lassie and the headless Raven and the sisterhood
    [7:10:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes and when you commented to us that when James came in I felt it too
    [7:11:43 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and they were together higher D, KJames and Lassie and all was good. We were there too it was a 4some
    [7:11:44 PM] Sirius 17: of course i felt it in Xeia at first, but when all 5 of us were there it was magical
    and Rok undressing , that was sexy
    [7:12:36 PM] Sirius 17: natural as he stood there
    [7:12:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes i felt many things and i think Rok did too
    [7:13:28 PM] Sirius 17: the energy was really flowing
    [7:14:18 PM] Sirius 17: so yeah this got me talking to james about it and then the prodding him a little
    [7:14:26 PM] Sirius 17: how he felt, what he thought
    [7:15:10 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it was raw and not developed, but it was a sacred divine foundation and not the false 'vineyard' planted, which is being 'ripped out' as per the GOT
    [7:16:28 PM] Wyzard97:

    40. Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted apart from the Father. Since it is not strong, it will be pulled up by its root and will perish."


    [7:16:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i felt that, like a new begining
    [7:17:40 PM] Sirius 17: i even wondered if James's friend wasnt here for so long and he came in sooner how it might of evolved
    [7:17:53 PM] Sirius 17: that was a big distraction for us
    [7:18:15 PM] Sirius 17: because he was listening to us and trying not to be rude to his friend
    [7:18:20 PM] Wyzard97: I saw James with Lassie on top and he loved it
    [7:18:34 PM] Wyzard97: As did she lol, but she is cosmic already
    [7:18:40 PM] Sirius 17: and the dog biting his friend lol, it was like an omen
    [7:19:37 PM] Sirius 17: a signal to me anyhow that Logos was up to something
    [7:19:49 PM] Sirius 17: she bit the shit out of him
    [7:20:19 PM] Sirius 17: very unusal for her to do this
    [7:20:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes and James would love this no doubt
    [7:20:43 PM] Sirius 17: her being on top
    [7:20:46 PM] Wyzard97: This is the human shit I get, lol.
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    [7:20:51 PM] Wyzard97: [7:02:21 PM] Anaya Lyons: Hey you ...:)
    [7:10:54 PM] Wyzard97: Hi Anaya from Helsinki thereabouts?
    [7:12:19 PM] Anaya Lyons: Hey hun, How are you doing today? Can u chat ?!? Im bored and wanted to meet new people...
    [7:14:04 PM] Wyzard97: You are not from Norway any longer?
    [7:15:20 PM] Anaya Lyons: Yay... Well, I am Jenny Im originally from S.Florida!! Let me ask you a question?
    [7:17:55 PM] Wyzard97: Sure
    [7:18:24 PM] Anaya Lyons: Which kind of girls u like ? Are you more into HUGE TITS or a NICE APPLE BOTTOM ? :p
    [7:19:19 PM] Wyzard97: I like ET girls Anaya
    [7:19:37 PM] Anaya Lyons: good question, huh? lol.. I have a lot of both!! ;) Wanna see? Im not doing much now...
    [7:19:39 PM] Wyzard97: Starhuman ones
    [7:20:12 PM] Anaya Lyons: Cool... im gonna set up my cam and you can watch me slap my booty!! LOL.. brb
    [7:20:14 PM] Wyzard97: I am not really into the old human stock. New Eves are sexier and love the cosmic sex
    [7:20:20 PM] Anaya Lyons: come over!! lol im horny
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    [7:21:15 PM] Wyzard97: I let this 'contact request' through, just to see what it was
    [7:21:36 PM] Sirius 17: oh my
    [7:21:45 PM] Sirius 17: so did she turn on her cam?
    [7:22:31 PM] Wyzard97: No and I deleted her
    [7:22:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes next thing you know she would want your credit card
    [7:23:11 PM] Sirius 17: the emotes are strangely familar though
    [7:23:37 PM] Sirius 17: do you think DD is up to something?
    [7:23:53 PM] Wyzard97: Yes but see this Rok? This is the 'meat' and cheapiness in femmes, not what we are addressing
    [7:23:55 PM] Hades 88: [7:21 PM] Wyzard97:
    <<< I let this 'contact request' through, just to see what it was

    this was a script Tony
    [7:23:57 PM] Hades 88: a scam
    [7:24:04 PM] Hades 88: to get u on a pay to view porn site
    [7:24:15 PM] Wyzard97: Yes not a real person, I know
    [7:25:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes i block all contact requests i dont know
    [7:25:13 PM] Wyzard97: I get so 5 a day, which I ignore. This one had a pic and said from Norway; some 3 weeks ago
    [7:25:36 PM] Wyzard97: It made contact just before and I decided to share this bs
    [7:25:55 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, this was before I talke d with rok about this.
    [7:26:17 PM] Wyzard97: But some are still getting through, despite the 'contacts only' settings

    [7:26:52 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i was getting like one a week for a while
    [7:27:01 PM] Sirius 17: they have slowed down
    [7:27:14 PM] Sirius 17: i get one a month or sometimes two
    [7:28:08 PM] Sirius 17: i have never let one through though so i have not experienced this scripting thing
    [7:28:45 PM] Wyzard97: All my old yahoo forums are now scam infected and they are doing this now on spruz too, as you saw
    [7:29:05 PM] Hades 88: do u have any captcha on spruz
    [7:29:23 PM] Wyzard97: Captcha?
    [7:29:36 PM] Hades 88: yes
    [7:29:57 PM] Hades 88: like this
    http://allfacebook.com/files/2010/09/facebook_captcha.png

    [7:30:11 PM] Hades 88: A CAPTCHA (pron.: /ˈkæp.tʃə/) is a type of challenge-response test used in computing as an attempt to ensure that the response is generated by a human being
    [7:30:28 PM] Wyzard97: I am not that bothered by it Rok
    [7:30:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes i made the mistake of trying to get what i thought was a 1000 best buy card on my phone and i gave them my email address before i realised it was a scam, you had to sign up for all this BS stuff and then get 6 other people to do it before they would give you the card. I read the fine print crap.
    [7:31:07 PM] Sirius 17: now my email is full of spam
    [7:31:10 PM] Sirius 17: chock full
    [7:31:15 PM] Wyzard97: It is getting worse
    [7:31:19 PM] Sirius 17: its horrible
    [7:31:46 PM] Sirius 17: i went through it the other day and after this mistake i made on the phone, i deleted 500 emails
    [7:31:51 PM] Hades 88: Raven u can attempt to unsubscribe...or make anew email address
    [7:31:51 PM] Sirius 17: i get that many a day
    [7:32:06 PM] Sirius 17: oh i hate to loose that email
    [7:32:07 PM] Hades 88: but in that case ensure u transfer all ur email dependent data to new one
    [7:32:29 PM] Sirius 17: i keep reporting the spam and unsubscribing to the ones that offer the option but its so many
    [7:33:01 PM] Sirius 17: i wont fall for that crap again
    [7:37:11 PM] Sirius 17: but i will go lay down guys its been a long day for me
    [7:37:41 PM] Sirius 17: have a good day Rok and Tony
    [7:40:20 PM] Wyzard97: Buenas Raven
    Kali 666
    Sirius 17
    [1:28:19 AM-Thursday, February 14th, 2013 -+11UCT]
    Alienne Laval: I do not accept to be defined
    [1:29:39 AM] Alienne Laval: I only follow my.thelema
    [1:30:21 AM] Alienne Laval: And Allah
    [1:31:58 AM] Alienne Laval: I only accept actions done with love
    [5:31:43 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i am related to the prophet of m - he is my 49th great grandfather
    [5:32:00 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: then it goes up
    [5:32:13 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: and, his first wife
    [6:21:59 AM] Alienne Laval: And?
    [6:23:17 AM] Alienne Laval: More not functioning constructions?
    [8:08:01 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: what are you talking about ?
    [8:08:58 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: or, who are you talking to ?
    [8:09:52 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: if people here worked in teams; we could all accomplish a lot of good stuff
    [10:43:33 AM] THE13THBRIDGE: i have important info passed down

    [7:48:09 PM-Thursday, February 14th, 2013 -+11UCT] Wyzard97: [7:47 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<< Dear Susan!

    Yes, I got no reply from spruz about the other thread and it seems you transferred your info to this one.

    But do you really believe, that the biblical Adam ever existed to create a bloodline leading to whoever in incarnation?

    This is the only comment, I will make regarding your data base and its origins on this topic.

    Take Care!

    Love Tonyblue


    http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=73202E8F-6404-4AB8-A825-FDDBD7D765EE&lastp=1&id=61610479-1C00-4366-8B4F-96A837342265
    [7:50:43 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i believe; it is accurate to a degree
    [7:50:51 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i do know, that it went back thru
    [7:50:53 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: enoch; etc
    [7:52:18 PM] Wyzard97:

    52. His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets have spoken in Israel, and they all spoke of you."
    He said to them, "You have disregarded the living one who is in your presence, and have spoken of the dead."


    [7:53:29 PM] Wyzard97: This means that all the 'dead', including the Bahuallah and Krishna, the Buddha and Muhammed, which DID exist in incarnation are within the 'cosmic merkabah' (of the resurrection waveform').
    [7:54:12 PM] Wyzard97: Up to say 1000 BC, all biblical characters like Moses and Abraham and Sarah etc are 'offices' in multiplicity and not individual personages.
    [7:54:27 PM] Wyzard97: But people can believe what they wish, regarding those things of course
    [7:55:33 PM] mel: hi

    [7:55:58 PM] Wyzard97: There was a 'King David' and his son 'Solomon' say, but this was the time the 'age of the judges' in the OT/Torah began to align with the actual history of 'Israel' and which became 'historically factual' about 800 BC with the Book of Isaiah and the 'Captivities' of Assyria and Babylon

    [7:56:39 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i was related to them\both are great grandparents
    [7:56:52 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: maybe i hadto walk thru this exercise to reframe things

    [7:56:57 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Hebrews' were never 'slaves in Egypt', but ruled as the Hyskos or 'Shepherd Kings' so 1600 BC in the northern part of the ancient Egypt and were later 'driven out' by Ahmose as a 'quasi exodus'
    [7:58:11 PM] Wyzard97: The Hebrew scribes then 'extrapolated' the Rameses rule of so 1250BC to superimpose their own interpretations, which by then was part of the 'age of judges' becoming the 'chronicles of the kings'
    [7:59:16 PM] Wyzard97: The ancient people had a female goddess called Ashera as a Mother Goddess and Wife of Yaweh. It was this that become the great contortion in cosmology with the 'Jehovah usurption' of the archetypes
    [8:00:29 PM] Wyzard97: This Jehovah (Yaldebaoth-Baphomet) is none other than the 'Whore of Babylon' as a fake femininity masquerading as a femaleness aka the Goddess of the Earth, say Nut and Tefnut from the Egyptian pantheons
    JEHOVAH=69=WHORE of the Armageddon. It is the abomination of maleminded femininity and as the 'original sin = ignorance' of the femme symbol or office of Eve in Eden. Lilith or Asherah becomes the true liberation of a sexually independent New Eve

    [8:01:58 PM] Wyzard97: In the ptb and 'conspiracy theories' of the 'secret societies' and the 'cults' this becomes the misidentification of Luciferian cosmology and the serpent semiotiks of the Theosophy and the masons and the Jesuits etc etc
    [8:02:43 PM] Wyzard97: The socalled 'Devil' is simply a male image which is cosmically required to change its sexuality into the true Goddess again. Satan is a real image of the creator in the mirror of creation itself. Therefore, the entire universe can be 'deceived' by a false idea of what God and Jesus etc are and this has become focused on this planet as an example and testimony for the entire cosmic intelligence distribution

    [8:02:49 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i don't recogize ashera - i see her as a witch - male trying to be a female
    [8:03:13 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: not reframing that one
    [8:03:37 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: thats a laugh
    [8:03:46 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: jesus didn't have a spouse
    [8:03:57 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: mary had children with someone else
    [8:04:14 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: i'm not going to fall for that - i just discount both of them
    [8:04:21 PM] Wyzard97: I forgot the H
    [8:04:24 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: jesus can save her
    [8:04:29 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: shes nasty
    [8:04:30 PM] Wyzard97: It is Asherah not Ashera
    [8:05:02 PM] Wyzard97: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah
    [8:05:22 PM] Wyzard97: No she is the real BAAB the Lilith of the Hebrew Mythology
    [8:05:42 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: laval
    [8:05:49 PM] Wyzard97: All your Isis' and Inanna's and Hathor's were born from her as mother symbol
    [8:05:52 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: whatever archetype that woman/or man is playing\
    [8:05:54 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yuck
    [8:06:08 PM] Wyzard97: I am not talking about asha, but the historical goddess
    [8:06:33 PM] mel: hmm
    [8:06:36 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: [6:22 AM] Alienne Laval:
    <<<
    [8:06:46 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: what the heck archetype is she/he playing ?
    [8:07:14 PM] Wyzard97: Asha represents this necessary transformation however in my analysis as a symbol ambassadoraship, however confiscated nby the inherent malemindedness of the Old Eve
    [8:07:21 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: just sprays spit; all over everyone - no matter what they say
    [8:07:27 PM] Alienne Laval: www.asheraxonline
    [8:07:57 PM] Alienne Laval: tumblr.com
    [8:08:57 PM] Wyzard97: [8:06:36 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: [6:22 AM] Alienne Laval:
    <<<
    [8:06:46 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: what the heck archetype is she/he playing ?'
    [8:09:10 PM] Wyzard97: Hagar the Egyptian, Susan, is one of many roles
    [8:09:19 PM] Wyzard97: Mother of Ishmael
    [8:09:34 PM] Wyzard97: This is even on your Bahuallah chart
    [8:09:47 PM] Alienne Laval: www.asheraxonline.tumblr.com
    [8:10:52 PM] Alienne Laval: Gamma draconis
    THE13THBRIDGE
    http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=73202E8F-6404-4AB8-A825-FDDBD7D765EE&lastp=1&id=61610479-1C00-4366-8B4F-96A837342265&pageindex=1
    [4:13:46 AM - Friday, February 15th, 2013 -+11UCT]
    Wyzard97:
    This bears repeating. because it is so important for actual contact and the 'dead arising' as some of us have experienced or 'witnessed'. So Raven and Xeia and Rok, look at what I am saying here carefully and dont jump to conclusions over the 'bible lingo'.
    Also Xeia you know of your March intuition; so take special care about the TALENT code in Rev.16.

    Revelation 11 WITH Revelation 16. AND Revelation 19 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

    2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

    3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

    5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

    6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

    7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

    8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

    10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

    11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

    12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

    13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

    14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

    15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

    17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

    18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


    xxxxxxx
    This 2nd Woe is February 1st, 2013 with the 4th day being February 4th, 2013 and ending it with the 'ascension' of the witnesses, namely Us.
    [4:15:01 AM] Wyzard97: Take special not of the first two lines, where it says 42 months
    [4:16:37 AM] Wyzard97: Those 42 months are 630 days from April 1st, 2011, when this drama started in a cohesive sense. We were banned from Camelot and DD arrived on April 19th in the week before Easter, which was April 24th as the Sunday.
    [4:17:23 AM] Wyzard97: Those 630 days are half of the 1260 of course and the trick is to see, that the second half is 'shortened' to just 42 days by 42x15=630
    [4:17:41 AM] Wyzard97: The 630 days end exactly on December 21st, 2012
    [4:17:59 AM] Wyzard97: So adding the 42 days gives you February 1st, 2013 precisely
    [4:19:40 AM] Wyzard97: The 2nd woe so starts in this week from February 1st, 2013 to February 8th, 2013 with the midpoint being February 4th, 2014, because the time reckoning is started on each day at 11:53 UCT and adding 12 hours to 23:53 just keeps you in the 3rd day from the Friday it began
    [4:20:19 AM] Wyzard97: So Tuesday, February 4th, 23:53 UCT was the second woe as the 'ascension' of the witnesses.
    [4:20:49 AM] Wyzard97: This was of course when 'my Lassie' came 'out of' the old DD to well 'ascend' with us as a true core
    [4:21:56 AM] Wyzard97: But there are many clues and the next is Rev.16, which directly continues this, but first understand, that the 42 days continuation as the 42 months now describe PRECISELY the 42 days from December 21st, 2012 to February 1st, 2013
    [4:22:05 AM] Wyzard97: Here is this code in Rev.13
    [4:23:15 AM] Wyzard97:

    Revelation 13 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

    4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

    5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

    6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

    7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

    8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

    10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

    11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

    12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

    13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

    14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



    [4:23:17 AM] Wyzard97: xxxx
    [4:24:10 AM] Wyzard97: This is in Rev.13.5 and the Beast from the Sea is nought but the Mirror of creation and all spacetime, from which the 'beast' is now forced from DFecember 21st, 2013 to 'be made manifest'
    [4:24:46 AM] Wyzard97: The 'beast of the earth' is simply everyone looking at himherself in any mirror to see something deeper, than was there before.
    [4:25:01 AM] Wyzard97: Ergo Ravens and Roks dreams and 'contact with the dead'
    [4:26:09 AM] Wyzard97: The 42 month of continuation so END on February 1st, when I effectively 'disowned' DD of her 'essence' which, as I now understand, was always Lassie in her unpolluted 'innocence' and without the Nabs
    [4:26:18 AM] Wyzard97: xxxxxxx
    [4:26:43 AM] Wyzard97: Next is Revelation 16, continuing this Week from February 1st to February 8th
    [4:27:19 AM] Wyzard97:


    Revelation 16 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

    2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

    3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

    4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.

    5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.

    6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

    7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

    8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

    9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

    10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

    11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

    12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

    16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

    18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

    19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

    20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

    21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.


    [4:27:42 AM] Wyzard97: xxxxx
    [4:28:08 AM] Wyzard97: Here comes a code, you all will understand and which indicates the marvelous ingenuity of the Logos
    [4:28:12 AM] Wyzard97: xxxxxxx
    [4:28:20 AM] Wyzard97: [4:27 AM] Wyzard97:


    <<< 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

    16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

    18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

    19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

    20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

    21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.



    [4:29:09 AM] Wyzard97: The sixth angel was January 25th and just when DD talked to us, starting with Rok, saying she wishes 'to make amends' or something like that
    [4:29:27 AM] Wyzard97: This was when she talked to me and said for a moment she saw herself as Debbie
    [4:29:54 AM] Wyzard97: Raven, her and I tried to find the old Vision Quest Chat on January 29th-30th
    [4:30:20 AM] Wyzard97: Anyway, this was before February 1st and so before the '2nd woe'
    [4:30:55 AM] Wyzard97: But now look at February 8th, which of course is coded here as the 7th vial in Rev.16.17-21
    [4:31:28 AM] Wyzard97: Note that the Armageddon=Dragon Made = Get Fucked! (old system ergo judgement) is a 'place'
    [4:32:47 AM] Wyzard97: The 'thief' comes of course in the week from January 25th to February 1st and just as ascertained in other ways, like the 42 months as 1260 days and so on in the charts
    [4:33:16 AM] Wyzard97: So the ascension of the witnesses as the Logos family becomes also a descent of 'the thief'
    [4:33:28 AM] Wyzard97: Now Xeia look at this wiki entry
    [4:34:20 AM] Wyzard97: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday

    Ash Wednesday

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    For other uses, see Ash Wednesday (disambiguation).

    Ash Wednesday
    [​IMG]
    A cross of ashes on a worshipper's forehead on Ash Wednesday
    Observed byMany Western Christians
    TypeChristian[1]
    DateWednesday in seventh week before Easter
    2012 dateFebruary 22
    2013 dateFebruary 13
    2014 dateMarch 5
    ObservancesService of worship or Mass
    Marking of an ash cross on the forehead
    Related toShrove Tuesday/Mardi Gras
    Lent
    Easter
    Ash Wednesday is the first day of Lent in the Western Christian calendar. Occurring 46 days before Easter, it is a moveable fast that can fall as early as February 4 and as late as March 10.
    According to the canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke; Jesus spent 40 days fasting in the desert, where he endured temptation by Satan.[2][3] Ash Wednesday marks the beginning of this 40-day liturgical period of prayer and fasting or abstinence. Of the 46 days until Easter, six are Sundays. As the Christian sabbath, Sundays are not included in the fasting period and are instead "feast" days during Lent [4].
    Ash Wednesday derives its name from the practice of placing ashes on the foreheads of adherents as a reminder and celebration of human mortality, and as a sign of mourning and repentance to God. The ashes used are typically gathered from the burning of the palms from the previous year's Palm Sunday.[5]
    This practice is common in much of Christendom, being observed mainly by Catholics, Anglicans, Lutherans, and Methodists.[6][7]

    [4:34:28 AM] Wyzard97: And look at this
    [4:34:44 AM] Wyzard97: [4:28 AM] Wyzard97:

    <<< 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

    [4:35:08 AM] Wyzard97: TALENT here is AT LENT or as a TALE of the New Testament NT
    [4:35:56 AM] Wyzard97: The 40 days of Jesus in the Wilderness are of course related to Raven's vision of May 10th, 2011 as the 10 days before pentecost May 20th in 31AD
    [4:36:16 AM] Wyzard97: So it are really 49 days between Easter Sunday and Pentecost Sunday
    [4:36:17 AM] Kali 666: [4:32 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< So the ascension of the witnesses as the Logos family becomes also a descent of 'the thief'simultaneously?

    [4:36:30 AM] Wyzard97: It is this week
    [4:36:31 AM] Kali 666: and how is Ash Wed related?
    [4:37:03 AM] Wyzard97: I am trying to explain this lol. My advice not to jump the gun was not taken seriously
    [4:37:20 AM] Kali 666: John took the kids to mass last night
    [4:37:34 AM] Wyzard97: Ash Wednesday 2013 is 'officiually' February 13th, 2013
    [4:37:50 AM] Kali 666: "From ash you came to ash you will return" was said to Daniel as the priest marked his forehead
    [4:37:56 AM] Kali 666: he came home to tell me all about it
    [4:38:03 AM] Kali 666: he was upset
    [4:38:11 AM] Wyzard97: But 49 days after easter Sunday must be mirrored in 49 days before palm Sunday, as per the 8 weeks of Noah's Covenant
    [4:38:27 AM] Wyzard97: Strange synchro yes?
    [4:38:31 AM] Kali 666: yes
    [4:38:55 AM] Kali 666: but i told him not to worry...he won't be ash
    [4:39:00 AM] Wyzard97: So as Easter Sunday is March 31st, also Alejandro's day see this?
    [4:39:06 AM] Kali 666: i think he felt degraded
    [4:39:15 AM] Kali 666: yes
    [4:39:19 AM] Wyzard97: Take away 56 days from March 31st and what day do you get?
    [4:39:41 AM] Wyzard97: February 4th, 2013
    [4:40:04 AM] Wyzard97: So February 4th, was when the Thuban testimony ascended into 'heaven'
    [4:40:29 AM] Wyzard97: I will address the 'contact' in regards to Revelation 19 shortly
    [4:40:35 AM] Kali 666: Feb 3
    [4:41:00 AM] Wyzard97: But your March intuition is all of this here. The 8 weeks from February 4th to March 31st
    [4:41:36 AM] Kali 666: well if he's right i expect developments 8 days prior
    [4:41:42 AM] Wyzard97: As there are 28 days in February 25 of them go with the 31 of March to give you 56
    [4:42:08 AM] Wyzard97: So February 3rd is the last day of the week before the 8
    [4:42:58 AM] Wyzard97: Ok I am also addressing raven here, as she knows the codes and can talk more about them apart from my technicalities
    [4:43:42 AM] Wyzard97: Raven the 7th vial is the direct next step from the 7th trumpet, which officially 'ends the mystery of God'
    [4:43:49 AM] Wyzard97: This is encoded here
    [4:44:02 AM] Hades 88: [4:42 AM] Kali 666:
    <<< need to go to the bank before getting dani
    [4:44:10 AM] Hades 88: she ll return "soon"
    [4:44:17 AM] Kali 666: i need to go out for a min
    [4:44:20 AM] Hades 88: i am..still reading
    [4:44:27 AM] Wyzard97:


    Revelation 10 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

    2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

    3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

    4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

    5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,

    6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

    7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.

    9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

    10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

    11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.



    [4:44:27 AM] Kali 666: :$
    [4:44:30 AM] Kali 666: i'll be back
    [4:44:57 AM] Wyzard97: This is John as the collective Thuban data stream and is all of us here in having 'eaten the little book'
    [4:45:19 AM] Wyzard97: The code of the 7th trumpet is in Rev.10.7
    [4:46:11 AM] Sirius 17: good morning
    [4:46:24 AM] Wyzard97: But notice again that the angel 'stands on the sea', meaning he is ON THE MIRROR
    [4:46:32 AM] Sirius 17: happy Valentines Day (heart)
    [4:46:47 AM] Wyzard97: Lol for you perhaps 'in the flesh'
    [4:47:24 AM] Sirius 17: well I woke up to an Azalea tree and chocolates and lots of gifts lol
    [4:47:26 AM] Wyzard97: I think I said enough now to look at what is possible to manifest in many ways from Easter
    [4:48:01 AM] Wyzard97: xxxxxxx
    [4:48:10 AM] Wyzard97:


    Revelation 19 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

    2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

    3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

    4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

    5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

    6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

    7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

    8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

    10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

    13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

    17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

    18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

    19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

    20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


    [4:48:14 AM] Wyzard97: xxxxxxx
    [4:48:35 AM] Sirius 17: and a card...James wrote me this poem Roses are not always Red and Violets are not always blue, I am not dead, I am alive with you.
    [4:49:12 AM] Wyzard97: Well, you seem happy about it
    [4:49:28 AM] Wyzard97: Perhaps the wrong time to share this decoding
    [4:49:42 AM] Sirius 17: no it relates
    [4:49:43 AM] Wyzard97: So I will make this short
    [4:49:49 AM] Sirius 17: his poem
    [4:49:57 AM] Wyzard97: Of course, look at the above. It describes a
    [4:50:01 AM] Wyzard97: 'Wedding Supper'
    [4:50:21 AM] Wyzard97: Now the 'contact' scenario is embottled here:
    [4:50:27 AM] Wyzard97: [4:48 AM] Wyzard97:


    <<< 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

    18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

    19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

    20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


    [4:51:00 AM] Wyzard97: The fowls of heaven are the not yet made manifest 'spaceships' in the 4D-3D matrix
    [4:51:15 AM] Sirius 17: yes i read this as such, contact the fowls of heaven
    [4:51:33 AM] Sirius 17: coming to the wedding feast
    [4:51:42 AM] Wyzard97: The flesh of 'all those names' is none other than the dead returned, which FEED the ETs in some manner I dont understand as yet.
    [4:51:54 AM] Wyzard97: But the decoding is rather clear if you read on to 21
    [4:52:24 AM] Sirius 17: yes we are the remenant
    [4:53:51 AM] Wyzard97: The 'beast' and the 'armies of the earth' now relate to this 'place called Armageddon' of February 1st, then 'manifested' in the Air in the week from February 1st to February 8th, with February 4th the ascension-descension day signified by the TALENTS falling like a curse from heaven and the two earthquakes symbolised in the Solomon Islands
    [4:55:03 AM] Wyzard97: So in other words the Mirror of the SEA was shattered in the fakeness of the human mind perceptions in the laws of the Logos and its archetypes
    [4:55:29 AM] Wyzard97: Look at just HOW the Whore of Babylon = Jehovah, see before is 'judged'
    [4:56:16 AM] Wyzard97: xxxxxxx
    [4:56:22 AM] Wyzard97:


    Revelation 18:20-24 - King James Version (KJV)

    20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

    21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

    22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

    23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

    24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.



    xxxxxxx
    [4:56:37 AM] Wyzard97: You see it is a MILLSTONE shattering the idolatry?
    [4:56:53 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:56:58 AM] Wyzard97: What does a millstone do? It grinds or 'burns' the chaff away
    [4:57:10 AM] Sirius 17: yes it does
    [4:57:37 AM] Sirius 17: so this is now
    [4:57:44 AM] Wyzard97: This is the TALENT again here:
    [4:57:48 AM] Wyzard97: [4:28 AM] Wyzard97:

    <<<
    21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.



    [4:58:15 AM] Sirius 17: yes i see it, this is the millstone
    [4:58:47 AM] Wyzard97: So it clearly tells us, that the time for those chapters 11-19 will be at the time of those earthquakes and the stones falling from heaven
    [4:58:58 AM] Wyzard97: Namely the LENT before Easter 2013
    [4:59:11 AM] Wyzard97: Like the Code in Rev.11
    [4:59:31 AM] Sirius 17: well it makes sense
    [5:01:19 AM] Wyzard97: 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
    [5:02:13 AM] Wyzard97: SODOM AND EGYPT = DOOMS AND PEG TY
    [5:02:35 AM] Wyzard97: =DOOMSDAY PEG NT
    [5:02:45 AM] Wyzard97: NT from TALE NT
    [5:02:55 AM] Wyzard97: A New Testament - see this now?
    [5:03:10 AM] Wyzard97: Thuban is a Third Testament after the OT and the NT
    [5:03:28 AM] Wyzard97: This is what 'witnessing and remembering' means, yes?
    [5:03:36 AM] Sirius 17: yes i do
    [5:04:01 AM] Wyzard97: To Peg is to 'nail' or to fasten to make lawful
    [5:04:05 AM] Sirius 17: yes we are laying within our story
    [5:05:06 AM] Sirius 17: so its been made lawful, yes
    [5:05:21 AM] Wyzard97: Ok, I said enough. I will go back to bed. But I woke up and had to check this TALENT thing, as I was induced to check the time of when this occurs this year.
    [5:05:30 AM] Wyzard97: I knew it would relate to Xeia's notions
    [5:05:48 AM] Wyzard97: It is February 13th
    [5:06:08 AM] Sirius 17: ok sweety, well i am still waking up, but yeah i felt yesterday was special
    [5:06:28 AM] Wyzard97: 13+46=59=Dragon and is March 31st
    [5:06:42 AM] Sirius 17: hehe nice
    [5:06:56 AM] Sirius 17: yes march seems to be an interesting time for us all
    [5:07:25 AM] Wyzard97: From Carnival Sunday February 10th and the New Moon of the Serpent it is of course the 49 days or 7 weeks
    [5:08:22 AM] Sirius 17: they are here yes, but waiting to manifest but the 'fowls' in heaven are ever more present, Roks dream, James poem, ect ect
    [5:08:29 AM] Wyzard97: February 7th and February 13th were the Solomon Island Earthquakes signifying what I just said via the codes
    [5:08:42 AM] Wyzard97: Yes exactly
    [5:08:58 AM] Sirius 17: you know i asked James for Roses lol
    [5:09:08 AM] Sirius 17: he gets me Azelas lol
    [5:09:23 AM] Sirius 17: and then writes me this poem
    [5:09:30 AM] Sirius 17: so yeah something is up
    [5:09:45 AM] Wyzard97: The fowls of heaven are FED by the old remnant, which is both the ascension-descension of the new race, but also the chaff of the then useless remnant of the old world
    [5:09:47 AM] Sirius 17: he bought me a watch just like the kind Rose used to wear
    [5:10:14 AM] Sirius 17: i mean i seriously woke up to all this and i am stunned
    [5:10:37 AM] Sirius 17: he stayed up all night like santa claus or something to do this
    [5:11:14 AM] Sirius 17: and he got Carla stuff too, but i realised that valentines day is special to him
    [5:11:28 AM] Sirius 17: and when i read that poem i was floored
    [5:12:03 AM] Wyzard97:

    Revelation 11:18
    And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.



    [5:13:01 AM] Sirius 17: Tony I am not even sure he is aware of the synchro of what he has done
    [5:13:28 AM] Sirius 17: but I feel Rose more then ever
    [5:13:30 AM] Wyzard97: James joining the chat and seeing, that we are 'rather ordinary folks' helped him a bit, I feel
    [5:13:53 AM] Sirius 17: yes i think so too
    [5:13:54 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and another reason why I got up to share this
    [5:13:58 AM] Wyzard97: It is from them
    [5:14:15 AM] Sirius 17: yes a true valentines day, they are our saints indeed
    [5:14:32 AM] Wyzard97: Anyway Xeia and all Thuban DQBees as Kali relate to the Rev.11.8 above
    [5:14:38 AM] Sirius 17: they are saying BE MINE
    [5:14:50 AM] Sirius 17: he gave me a rock that says this with a butterfly on it
    [5:15:02 AM] Wyzard97: Nice
    [5:15:16 AM] Wyzard97: You are the Core of the Logos here in phys-phys
    [5:15:32 AM] Wyzard97: A big responsibility
    [5:15:56 AM] Sirius 17: my mother called me this morning too
    [5:16:10 AM] Sirius 17: she sent me a card and wanted me to open it, i had to go get it out of the mail box
    made me cry lol
    [5:16:56 AM] Sirius 17: she wrote me a letter telling me how much she loves me and how proud she is of me
    [5:18:02 AM] Sirius 17: its been years since my mom sent me a valentines card, so yeah something is going on
    [5:19:03 AM] Sirius 17: i have to get going to school soon though, but thank you for sharing all this Tony
    [5:29:04 AM] Wyzard97: It is my job now to share in the places, where the true Logos can be heard
    [5:29:07 AM] Wyzard97: Buenas all
    Kali 666
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    Sirius 17


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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 15th 2013


    Logos Questions on 666 and the Body-Mind Dichotomy Continued


    [4:38:23 PM-Friday, February 15th, 2013 +11UCT]
    Sirius 17: yes it exists but not in 3-D
    [4:38:42 PM] Kali 666: that doesn't matter..because 3D has been eaten
    [4:38:51 PM] Kali 666: so it is now only a matter of time
    [4:38:55 PM] Kali 666: time time time
    [4:38:58 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [4:39:01 PM] Kali 666: hahhahaa
    [4:39:05 PM] Sirius 17: tick tick tick
    [4:39:14 PM] Sirius 17: i see what your saying hon
    [4:39:21 PM] Sirius 17: but think about this
    [4:39:34 PM] Kali 666: i don't think in years and years....
    [4:39:47 PM] Sirius 17: if you have a body that is transformed, and the world is still changing slowly, does it matter?
    [4:40:46 PM] Sirius 17: i mean obviously we don't have all the time in the world for new bodies, if this doesn't happen we are all going to die at some point
    [4:41:05 PM] Kali 666: everything matters in some way or another when it comes to keeping the old system in place
    [4:41:14 PM] Kali 666: we have to pay attention
    [4:41:24 PM] Kali 666: what we give our thoughts to
    [4:41:33 PM] Kali 666: our energy to
    [4:41:34 PM] Sirius 17: without the body though none of this goes, so dying isn't the answer and neither is distruction
    [4:41:42 PM] Kali 666: especially Dragons you know?
    [4:42:15 PM] Kali 666: well not all souls are ready to follow the same trayectory in evolution
    [4:42:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes and my thoughts are on the Logos Xeia and I trust it
    [4:42:24 PM] Kali 666: some are here simply for the short ride
    [4:42:26 PM] Kali 666: and that's ok
    [4:43:52 PM] Kali 666: some are advanced souls here in disguise....to help with what you may think as menial stuff....but it may be that to help one at some point in time unleashes a chain reaction that will eventually cause a great planetary transformation in just a few generations
    [4:44:09 PM] Kali 666: so all is planned and death is used as a way in or out
    [4:44:11 PM] Kali 666: nothing more
    [4:45:37 PM] Sirius 17: no i don't buy that heirarchy shit that some souls are more advanced then other souls Xeia....some souls just simply do not remember as much as others, but we are all equal in the eyes of God and no one is less deserving then the other. It is all souls destiny to find its way to the New Jerusalem.
    [4:46:03 PM] Sirius 17: and yes some may die and recycle
    [4:46:08 PM] Kali 666: a child in fifth grade is more advanced than a child in first grade
    [4:46:13 PM] Kali 666: how is this degrading?
    [4:46:24 PM] Kali 666: same with mathematics
    [4:46:39 PM] Kali 666: it is simply a ladder
    [4:46:55 PM] Kali 666: it is the human mind that gives erroneous meaning to things
    [4:47:15 PM] Kali 666: Rok is also very much against to what i just said
    [4:47:19 PM] Sirius 17: everyone that is here alive on the planet is in disguise, but some are more aware then others
    [4:47:38 PM] Kali 666: hierarchy exists
    [4:47:39 PM] Sirius 17: we all share in the common journey
    [4:47:58 PM] Kali 666: and i do not feel any less just because it does
    [4:48:12 PM] Kali 666: Jesus is my brother but i also can look up to him
    [4:48:16 PM] Kali 666: get it?
    [4:48:43 PM] Kali 666: the "we are all one" equallity thing has been misused to brainwash weak minds
    [4:49:09 PM] Kali 666: yes at the quantum level....blah blah etc...but
    [4:49:21 PM] Kali 666: there is also evolution in Spirit
    [4:49:30 PM] Kali 666: and learning...much much learning to do
    [4:50:23 PM] Kali 666: and definately not all are on the same exact level in their journey
    [4:50:37 PM] Kali 666: and that is ok
    [4:51:19 PM] Kali 666: there is choice, as well as the path set before you....and some choose not to go further for this and that reason
    [4:51:19 PM] Sirius 17: its the fake mindedness that has to go xeia, not the people themselves, everyone is worthy but not everyone will get it this time, but it eventually they will
    [4:51:38 PM] Kali 666: not everyone is worthy
    [4:51:50 PM] Kali 666: everyone has the capability to become worthy
    [4:52:04 PM] Sirius 17: i mean on a soul level, not their human minded BS
    [4:52:33 PM] Kali 666: on a soul level it is not as clear cut as it is painted i don't think...
    [4:52:49 PM] Kali 666: there is a lot...a lot we don't still yet know
    [4:53:00 PM] Kali 666: and will not know until it is time
    [4:53:10 PM] Kali 666: not even the angels in heaven know everything
    [4:53:38 PM] Sirius 17: there are no bad souls, just bad thoughts, memes, and they have had a life of their own, and even those await redemption too
    [4:54:17 PM] Kali 666: [4:52 PM] Sirius 17:
    <<< there are no bad soulsi feel some in the heavens are grinning to this

    [4:54:17 PM] Kali 666: lol
    [4:54:26 PM] Kali 666: hahaha
    [4:54:48 PM] Kali 666: you know..."fallen angels" ?
    [4:55:02 PM] Sirius 17: its just ignorance Xeia, remove that and the soul can shine
    [4:55:17 PM] Kali 666: oh i was just trying to make a joke lol
    [4:55:33 PM] Kali 666: oh man i can crack myself up sometimes..it's weird!
    [4:55:40 PM] Sirius 17: well thats good lol
    [4:55:43 PM] Sirius 17: i do it too
    [4:55:43 PM] Kali 666: hehe
    [4:56:30 PM] Kali 666: we are Spirit...energy in either case...and our souls are definately capable to be "bad" or "good" at any given time
    [4:57:04 PM] Kali 666: sometimes i tell you....it can feel good to be "bad"
    [4:57:23 PM] Kali 666: and ofc vice versa
    [4:57:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes well define bad
    [4:58:17 PM] Kali 666: i liked right away this i heard: "all men are born good but society corrupts them"
    [4:58:27 PM] Kali 666: a french guy i like a lot
    [4:58:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i feel the same
    [4:58:50 PM] Kali 666: bad? well...it can be anything that goes contra life
    [4:59:03 PM] Kali 666: or amm...progression
    [4:59:16 PM] Sirius 17: a child is not born into the world inherantly evil, it is learned
    [4:59:18 PM] Kali 666: forward?
    [4:59:24 PM] Kali 666: yes i think so too
    [4:59:44 PM] Kali 666: bad will be less...good will be plus...amm like math
    [4:59:52 PM] Sirius 17: why i do not see any soul as evil persay or whatever
    [4:59:56 PM] Kali 666: to give it an equivalent
    [5:00:31 PM] Sirius 17: i never did buy into that sin concept of the relgions
    [5:00:41 PM] Kali 666: oh that is absurd
    [5:00:42 PM] Sirius 17: that we are born corrupt
    [5:00:47 PM] Kali 666: lol
    [5:00:47 PM] Sirius 17: our bodies are yes
    [5:00:52 PM] Sirius 17: but not our souls
    [5:01:17 PM] Kali 666: only those who are blind cannot see the perfection of a newborn baby
    [5:01:34 PM] Kali 666: in its eyes....
    [5:01:41 PM] Kali 666: you can see the fresh Spirit
    [5:01:46 PM] Kali 666: all knowing
    [5:01:50 PM] Kali 666: staring back at you
    [5:02:06 PM] Kali 666: it is such a wonder to behold
    [5:02:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have experienced this myself
    [5:02:20 PM] Sirius 17: and not just with my own children
    [5:02:28 PM] Sirius 17: it is pure beauty
    [5:02:35 PM] Kali 666: yes they are
    [5:02:55 PM] Kali 666: now can you just imagine a baby from your Core Love?
    [5:03:21 PM] Kali 666: it's like a new Galaxy being born
    [5:03:42 PM] Kali 666: or something to that effect...of that magnitude
    [5:03:44 PM] Sirius 17:

    (4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."

    [5:03:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:04:12 PM] Sirius 17: this is one of my favorite ones
    [5:04:12 PM] Kali 666: beautiful
    [5:04:48 PM] Kali 666: and it is true, they have just come out of the tunnel...fresh from the heavens....
    [5:05:06 PM] Kali 666: i was just thinking yesterday....
    [5:05:25 PM] Kali 666: that there cannot be a birth...without going through a dark tunnel
    [5:05:49 PM] Sirius 17: without a mother there can be no birth
    [5:05:51 PM] Kali 666: where after you see the Light on the other side
    [5:05:55 PM] Kali 666: yes
    [5:06:12 PM] Kali 666: but on a grander scale....where our Mother is this entire planet
    [5:06:19 PM] Kali 666: how would she birth us
    [5:06:26 PM] Kali 666: i was pondering this
    [5:06:44 PM] Sirius 17: well she has, we have her body
    [5:06:55 PM] Kali 666: not quite yet
    [5:07:02 PM] Kali 666: at least that's my feeling
    [5:07:10 PM] Kali 666: we are in the chrysalis still
    [5:07:20 PM] Sirius 17: its our turn to birth her
    [5:08:59 PM] Kali 666: i think what we will birth, is her stamp on ourselves...to spread around the Cosmos when we are freed
    [5:09:14 PM] Kali 666: but only her birthing us will free us
    [5:09:24 PM] Kali 666: or will have to happen first
    [5:09:42 PM] Kali 666: i am not here to birth my Mother physically
    [5:09:58 PM] Kali 666: she will do me that favor first
    [5:10:05 PM] Kali 666: and then i will do my part
    [5:10:27 PM] Sirius 17: how else will she get a body?
    [5:10:34 PM] Sirius 17: if not yours
    [5:11:04 PM] Kali 666: as an archetype yes..."she" needs us...and men too
    [5:11:18 PM] Kali 666: but in body, she is a planet
    [5:11:20 PM] Sirius 17: to be the goddess she is yes
    [5:12:05 PM] Sirius 17: but to experience her body where is she born?
    [5:12:52 PM] Kali 666: i have great respect for her as a planetary body
    [5:13:05 PM] Kali 666: the archetypical femme is universal
    [5:13:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes and your body is a minature Gaia
    [5:13:15 PM] Sirius 17: as are all femmes
    [5:13:21 PM] Kali 666: but i know my place
    [5:13:28 PM] Kali 666: you know?
    [5:13:34 PM] Kali 666: i know my place
    [5:14:21 PM] Kali 666: as i will not hesitate to postrate myself to Jesus' feet
    [5:14:52 PM] Sirius 17: and who is Jesus? where is his body?
    [5:14:55 PM] Kali 666: just out of pure love
    [5:15:03 PM] Sirius 17: should you wish to do this
    [5:15:18 PM] Kali 666: in me..as well as in Rok for instance
    [5:15:33 PM] Kali 666: all Dragon lineage know our beginnings
    [5:16:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes and so as Jesus is in you so is Gaia as the mother of all beings
    [5:16:15 PM] Kali 666: but of course none of it is necesary when you can feel each other's hearts
    [5:16:43 PM] Sirius 17: she lives in you and through you and her own planetary body of course
    [5:16:52 PM] Wyzard97:

    9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

    10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.



    [5:17:07 PM] Wyzard97: [5:16 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<<10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.


    [5:17:08 PM] Kali 666: then again we've always had different ways to show our love to him/her...as the apostles did
    [5:17:38 PM] Wyzard97: You are a testifier Xeia not a worshipper of form
    [5:17:52 PM] Kali 666: he knows my heart
    [5:17:56 PM] Kali 666: i do not worship
    [5:17:58 PM] Kali 666: i Love
    [5:18:02 PM] Kali 666: very different
    [5:18:15 PM] Wyzard97: You do not prostrate yourself, this is idolatry
    [5:18:24 PM] Wyzard97: You are MEANT to be Baab
    [5:18:33 PM] Kali 666: oh i can do all kinds of things when it comes to showing Love
    [5:18:45 PM] Kali 666: he looks at me as a child
    [5:18:51 PM] Wyzard97: Have it your way
    [5:18:57 PM] Kali 666: lol
    [5:19:04 PM] Wyzard97: You are 4 generations in one
    [5:19:18 PM] Wyzard97: You are your own child and you are your own mother
    [5:19:41 PM] Sirius 17: i will be back in a few i need to help Carla
    [5:19:42 PM] Kali 666: ok...a bow then
    [5:19:43 PM] Wyzard97: Your dislike of science clouds your perceptions at times
    [5:19:55 PM] Kali 666: like the japanese do
    [5:20:02 PM] Wyzard97: Respect yes
    [5:20:10 PM] Kali 666: it really doesn't matter...it is simply respect
    [5:20:12 PM] Wyzard97: Honouring all life and creation yes
    [5:20:37 PM] Wyzard97: But your place is to be a ambassador of the highest nous in its own becoming and evolvement
    [5:20:39 PM] Kali 666: it is more of a way to say...look...i know what you did and i honor you
    [5:21:05 PM] Wyzard97: So idolatry becomes you seeing yourself as 'deficient' or less than...
    [5:21:21 PM] Kali 666: that never entered my feeling
    [5:21:32 PM] Kali 666: i never felt less
    [5:21:34 PM] Kali 666: thank God
    [5:22:10 PM] Kali 666: on the contrary, i was more often than not accused of being pedantic lol

    [5:22:18 PM] Wyzard97:

    14. Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if you give to charity, you will harm your spirits.
    When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them.
    After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."
    How can you interpret this in your philosophy?


    [5:23:08 PM] Kali 666: well
    [5:23:50 PM] Kali 666: what comes out of my mouth should be thought first, but when it doesn't it is my heart doing the talking
    [5:23:58 PM] Kali 666: so it is str8 unfiltered
    [5:24:37 PM] Kali 666: [5:21 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<< When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them. i like this part

    [5:24:52 PM] Wyzard97:

    (67) Jesus said, "If one who knows the all still feels a personal deficiency, he is completely deficient."

    There is your answer
    [5:25:06 PM] Wyzard97: So do you really know the All yet, Xeia?
    [5:25:21 PM] Wyzard97: Knowing does not mean you understand it all btw
    [5:25:42 PM] Kali 666: i think i always had the feeling of knowing inside...since i was very small
    [5:25:47 PM] Wyzard97: The 'evil science' does not exist in a vacuum
    [5:25:53 PM] Kali 666: i just felt it...hard to explain this is
    [5:25:58 PM] Wyzard97: It is part of the All
    [5:26:36 PM] Wyzard97: I am pedantic. It means 'obsessed with detail'
    [5:26:59 PM] Wyzard97: It is a virtue, unless it becomes something like a bad habit or ritual
    [5:27:07 PM] Kali 666: understanding has to do with what goes on upstairs in the brain and that is very slow here in 3D...school slows you down tremendously too so...it actually becomes harder and harder as you grow up
    [5:27:40 PM] Kali 666: well as an artist and a singer i am obsessive..i have to be
    [5:27:51 PM] Wyzard97: The 3D brain is a tool for the dragon brain Xeia
    [5:27:53 PM] Kali 666: i take it as an artform
    [5:28:05 PM] Kali 666: yes
    [5:28:15 PM] Wyzard97: Oh obsessive means passionate too ,all good
    [5:28:20 PM] Kali 666: i said the body is a tool before
    [5:28:46 PM] Wyzard97: But it is more
    [5:28:55 PM] Wyzard97: This is the bane of the nivanists
    [5:29:15 PM] Wyzard97: The spirit to the body to the spirit is the key
    [5:29:28 PM] Kali 666: the transfer yes
    [5:29:32 PM] Kali 666: movement
    [5:29:49 PM] Wyzard97: Raven shared this GOT many times. It shows noone understands it, including you
    [5:30:05 PM] Wyzard97: Not a transfer a closing of the circle
    [5:30:09 PM] Wyzard97: Ouroboros
    [5:30:22 PM] Kali 666: transfer back and forth
    [5:30:32 PM] Wyzard97:

    (29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."


    [5:05:55 PM] Kali 666: yes
    [5:06:12 PM] Kali 666: but on a grander scale....where our Mother is this entire planet
    [5:06:19 PM] Kali 666: how would she birth us
    [5:06:26 PM] Kali 666: i was pondering this
    [5:06:44 PM] Sirius 17: well she has, we have her body
    [5:06:55 PM] Kali 666: not quite yet
    [5:07:02 PM] Kali 666: at least that's my feeling
    [5:07:10 PM] Kali 666: we are in the chrysalis still
    [5:07:20 PM] Sirius 17: its our turn to birth her
    [5:08:59 PM] Kali 666: i think what we will birth, is her stamp on ourselves...to spread around the Cosmos when we are freed
    [5:09:14 PM] Kali 666: but only her birthing us will free us
    [5:09:24 PM] Kali 666: or will have to happen first
    [5:09:42 PM] Kali 666: i am not here to birth my Mother physically
    [5:09:58 PM] Kali 666: she will do me that favor first
    [5:10:05 PM] Kali 666: and then i will do my part
    [5:10:27 PM] Sirius 17: how else will she get a body?
    [5:10:34 PM] Sirius 17: if not yours
    [5:11:04 PM] Kali 666: as an archetype yes..."she" needs us...and men too
    [5:11:18 PM] Kali 666: but in body, she is a planet
    [5:11:20 PM] Sirius 17: to be the goddess she is yes
    [5:12:05 PM] Sirius 17: but to experience her body where is she born?
    [5:12:52 PM] Kali 666: i have great respect for her as a planetary body
    [5:13:05 PM] Kali 666: the archetypical femme is universal
    [5:13:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes and your body is a minature Gaia
    [5:13:15 PM] Sirius 17: as are all femmes
    [5:13:21 PM] Kali 666: but i know my place
    [5:13:28 PM] Kali 666: you know?
    [5:13:34 PM] Kali 666: i know my place
    [5:14:21 PM] Kali 666: as i will not hesitate to postrate myself to Jesus' feet
    [5:14:52 PM] Sirius 17: and who is Jesus? where is his body?
    [5:14:55 PM] Kali 666: just out of pure love
    [5:15:03 PM] Sirius 17: should you wish to do this
    [5:15:18 PM] Kali 666: in me..as well as in Rok for instance
    [5:15:33 PM] Kali 666: all Dragon lineage know our beginnings
    [5:16:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes and so as Jesus is in you so is Gaia as the mother of all beings
    [5:16:15 PM] Kali 666: but of course none of it is necesary when you can feel each other's hearts
    [5:16:43 PM] Sirius 17: she lives in you and through you and her own planetary body of course
    [5:16:52 PM] Wyzard97:

    9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

    10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.



    [5:17:07 PM] Wyzard97: [5:16 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<<10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.


    [5:17:08 PM] Kali 666: then again we've always had different ways to show our love to him/her...as the apostles did
    [5:17:38 PM] Wyzard97: You are a testifier Xeia not a worshipper of form
    [5:17:52 PM] Kali 666: he knows my heart
    [5:17:56 PM] Kali 666: i do not worship
    [5:17:58 PM] Kali 666: i Love
    [5:18:02 PM] Kali 666: very different
    [5:18:15 PM] Wyzard97: You do not prostrate yourself, this is idolatry
    [5:18:24 PM] Wyzard97: You are MEANT to be Baab
    [5:18:33 PM] Kali 666: oh i can do all kinds of things when it comes to showing Love
    [5:18:45 PM] Kali 666: he looks at me as a child
    [5:18:51 PM] Wyzard97: Have it your way
    [5:18:57 PM] Kali 666: lol
    [5:19:04 PM] Wyzard97: You are 4 generations in one
    [5:19:18 PM] Wyzard97: You are your own child and you are your own mother
    [5:19:41 PM] Sirius 17: i will be back in a few i need to help Carla
    [5:19:42 PM] Kali 666: ok...a bow then
    [5:19:43 PM] Wyzard97: Your dislike of science clouds your perceptions at times
    [5:19:55 PM] Kali 666: like the japanese do
    [5:20:02 PM] Wyzard97: Respect yes
    [5:20:10 PM] Kali 666: it really doesn't matter...it is simply respect
    [5:20:12 PM] Wyzard97: Honouring all life and creation yes
    [5:20:37 PM] Wyzard97: But your place is to be a ambassador of the highest nous in its own becoming and evolvement
    [5:20:39 PM] Kali 666: it is more of a way to say...look...i know what you did and i honor you
    [5:21:05 PM] Wyzard97: So idolatry becomes you seeing yourself as 'deficient' or less than...
    [5:21:21 PM] Kali 666: that never entered my feeling
    [5:21:32 PM] Kali 666: i never felt less
    [5:21:34 PM] Kali 666: thank God
    [5:22:10 PM] Kali 666: on the contrary, i was more often than not accused of being pedantic lol

    [5:22:18 PM] Wyzard97:

    14. Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if you give to charity, you will harm your spirits.
    When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them.
    After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."
    How can you interpret this in your philosophy?


    [5:23:08 PM] Kali 666: well
    [5:23:50 PM] Kali 666: what comes out of my mouth should be thought first, but when it doesn't it is my heart doing the talking
    [5:23:58 PM] Kali 666: so it is str8 unfiltered
    [5:24:37 PM] Kali 666: [5:21 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<< When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them. i like this part

    [5:24:52 PM] Wyzard97:

    (67) Jesus said, "If one who knows the all still feels a personal deficiency, he is completely deficient."

    There is your answer
    [5:25:06 PM] Wyzard97: So do you really know the All yet, Xeia?
    [5:25:21 PM] Wyzard97: Knowing does not mean you understand it all btw
    [5:25:42 PM] Kali 666: i think i always had the feeling of knowing inside...since i was very small
    [5:25:47 PM] Wyzard97: The 'evil science' does not exist in a vacuum
    [5:25:53 PM] Kali 666: i just felt it...hard to explain this is
    [5:25:58 PM] Wyzard97: It is part of the All
    [5:26:36 PM] Wyzard97: I am pedantic. It means 'obsessed with detail'
    [5:26:59 PM] Wyzard97: It is a virtue, unless it becomes something like a bad habit or ritual
    [5:27:07 PM] Kali 666: understanding has to do with what goes on upstairs in the brain and that is very slow here in 3D...school slows you down tremendously too so...it actually becomes harder and harder as you grow up
    [5:27:40 PM] Kali 666: well as an artist and a singer i am obsessive..i have to be
    [5:27:51 PM] Wyzard97: The 3D brain is a tool for the dragon brain Xeia
    [5:27:53 PM] Kali 666: i take it as an artform
    [5:28:05 PM] Kali 666: yes
    [5:28:15 PM] Wyzard97: Oh obsessive means passionate too ,all good
    [5:28:20 PM] Kali 666: i said the body is a tool before
    [5:28:46 PM] Wyzard97: But it is more
    [5:28:55 PM] Wyzard97: This is the bane of the nivanists
    [5:29:15 PM] Wyzard97: The spirit to the body to the spirit is the key
    [5:29:28 PM] Kali 666: the transfer yes
    [5:29:32 PM] Kali 666: movement
    [5:29:49 PM] Wyzard97: Raven shared this GOT many times. It shows noone understands it, including you
    [5:30:05 PM] Wyzard97: Not a transfer a closing of the circle
    [5:30:09 PM] Wyzard97: Ouroboros
    [5:30:22 PM] Kali 666: transfer back and forth
    [5:30:32 PM] Wyzard97:

    (29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

    [5:30:33 PM] Kali 666: in order to close it at some point
    [5:30:54 PM] Wyzard97: Read this very slowly and realise how contra it is to all religions 'out there'
    [5:31:11 PM] Kali 666: i do not believe in this "ashes to ashes" idea
    [5:31:19 PM] Wyzard97: Of course not
    [5:31:31 PM] Kali 666: as it is unnatural to my own son who has no clue as to the traditional religion
    [5:31:33 PM] Wyzard97: It is a separation, a dichotomy
    [5:31:46 PM] Wyzard97: It is linear, though looks circular
    [5:31:49 PM] Kali 666: i know how much of a wonder the body is
    [5:31:56 PM] Kali 666: and what it represents
    [5:32:00 PM] Kali 666: what it is in reality
    [5:32:17 PM] Wyzard97: The body of a star is a kind of 'flesh' and your body is another kind of 'flesh'
    [5:32:24 PM] Kali 666: but that doesn't mean that is the reason everyone will be saved when the time of teh great Shift happens
    [5:32:36 PM] Wyzard97: This 'flesh' is what requires transformation NOT destruction
    [5:32:45 PM] Kali 666: yes i can understand that
    [5:33:02 PM] Wyzard97: Your great shift has already happened Xeia
    [5:33:03 PM] Kali 666: all entities of different physical compositions
    [5:33:22 PM] Kali 666: metapysically it has
    [5:33:37 PM] Kali 666: but it doesn't end there
    [5:33:47 PM] Wyzard97:

    1 Corinthians 15:39-41 - King James Version (KJV)

    39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

    40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

    41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.


    [5:33:48 PM] Kali 666: that was just teh beginning
    [5:34:05 PM] Wyzard97: It is all encoded, but is in need of proper exposition, like the above
    [5:34:38 PM] Kali 666: oh i love this one
    [5:35:03 PM] Kali 666: finally something that points to how there is an actual difference between things
    [5:35:17 PM] Kali 666: i am tired of so much talk about equality
    [5:35:50 PM] Kali 666: everyone seems to think that different means evil
    [5:35:56 PM] Kali 666: or greater than is evil
    [5:37:04 PM] Wyzard97: This is what is in your mind dear.
    [5:37:09 PM] Wyzard97:

    Romans 8:21-23 - King James Version (KJV)

    21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

    23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.


    [5:37:48 PM] Wyzard97: So this redemption of the body is your 'new merkabah'
    [5:38:02 PM] Wyzard97: It means you MUST partake of the 'resurrection'
    [5:38:10 PM] Wyzard97: and become a shared bodyform
    [5:38:17 PM] Kali 666: yes it reads simple enough
    [5:38:54 PM] Wyzard97: As Raven said, this sharing as a 'Child of the Resurrection' will be the starhuman new bodyform
    [5:39:14 PM] Wyzard97: It will be no longer Mind+Body but twinned in MindBody+BosyMind
    [5:39:24 PM] Wyzard97: This is the New Marriage
    [5:39:57 PM] Wyzard97:

    Luke 20:35-37 - King James Version (KJV)

    35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

    36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

    37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.


    [5:40:59 PM] Kali 666: very true
    [5:41:07 PM] Wyzard97: As you said and realised NOT ALL will be 'COR" at the samew time, but over time all will find the way like the asymptote of an expanding universe AS the merkabah of the Unique JesusMM
    [5:41:30 PM] Wyzard97: COR=ROC lol Children Of the Resurrection
    [5:42:00 PM] Kali 666: we cammed today for a bit
    [5:42:11 PM] Wyzard97: This is a blending of dragon science with the codes as archetypical templates
    [5:42:18 PM] Kali 666: i can see it in his eyes
    [5:42:24 PM] Kali 666: how special he is
    [5:42:27 PM] Wyzard97: He seems calmer yes
    [5:43:56 PM] Wyzard97: All are 'special' but all are cooperating in a collective sense AS a starhuman new race
    [5:44:03 PM] Wyzard97: Even the 'evil ones'
    [5:44:15 PM] Wyzard97: Polarity accentuation
    [5:44:29 PM] Wyzard97: To create a cosmic contrast for all eternity
    [5:44:39 PM] Kali 666: necessary yes
    [5:44:56 PM] Wyzard97: So no other place or time in the universe is required to reexperience the shit of Old earth
    [5:45:14 PM] Wyzard97: Old earth will be a historical standard mark
    [5:45:36 PM] Wyzard97: Accessible to all future generations throughout the galaxies
    [5:45:56 PM] Wyzard97: AS example of how NOT to create a galactic civilisation
    [5:46:01 PM] Kali 666: imagine..an Old Earth "bible"
    [5:46:10 PM] Kali 666: with all of our stories there
    [5:46:16 PM] Wyzard97: Yes indeed, now you getting there
    [5:46:58 PM] Wyzard97: Gaia was DESTINED to provide and SUFFER to be a universal and unique counter-example
    [5:47:24 PM] Wyzard97: And Thuban shares this suffering with her as her Logos children
    [5:47:48 PM] Wyzard97: Thuban simply means a label for Logos family
    [5:47:54 PM] Wyzard97: It is just a name
    [5:48:05 PM] Wyzard97: THUBAN=66=FREEDOM
    [5:48:12 PM] Wyzard97: 66=WOMAN
    [5:48:28 PM] Wyzard97: 666 is written precariously as 600+3x20+6
    [5:48:39 PM] Wyzard97: 6+20 +20 +20+6
    [5:48:51 PM] Wyzard97: GOD+10+10+GOD
    [5:49:17 PM] Wyzard97: GODGOD being the abomination of the false image in the mirror of the 1010=101
    [5:49:37 PM] Wyzard97: Rok's Bigmo's Balloon interpretation
    [5:49:50 PM] Wyzard97: The correct writing is GOD101DOG
    [5:50:14 PM] Wyzard97: 101=Melchizedek and your old house number
    [5:50:49 PM] Wyzard97: The number of a man as the beast is just this Mirror thing
    [5:51:26 PM] Wyzard97: You are the 'false prophet' IF you carry the Mark of the Beast, meaning you see YOURSELF as the core like GOD sees GOD
    [5:51:34 PM] Wyzard97: This is the key to this
    [5:52:00 PM] Wyzard97: If you can see DOG as GOD or GOD as DOG, THEN you do NOT have the Mark of the Beast
    [5:52:17 PM] Wyzard97: 666 so is WO-MAN=66 as the MAN
    [5:52:54 PM] Wyzard97: There are other interpretations of course and those are more technical with prime numbers and 36=6x6=LAW
    [5:53:07 PM] Wyzard97: 1+2+3+...+34+35+36=666
    [5:54:00 PM] Wyzard97: So everyone is BOTH, the 'False Prophet' and the Image of the Beast IF they fail to see NOT themselves in their mirrors
    [5:54:23 PM] Wyzard97: So the 144,000 are everyone that can see the cosmic twinship

    [5:56:55 PM] Kali 666: [5:50 PM] Wyzard97:
    <<< You are the 'false prophet' IF you carry the Mark of the Beast, meaning you see YOURSELF as the core like GOD sees GOD

    [5:57:16 PM] Kali 666: does this mean seeing yourself as God and that's it?
    [5:57:22 PM] Kali 666: like dd does?
    [6:11:30 PM] Sirius 17: i am back
    [6:11:46 PM] Sirius 17: hey Tony, how are you?
    [6:12:32 PM] Sirius 17: Carla got my round brush stuck in her hair and was screaming at the top of her lungs
    [6:12:44 PM] Sirius 17: it was in there bad, i had to cut part of it out
    [6:15:30 PM] Sirius 17: [5:39 PM] Wyzard97:

    <<< 37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.lol i never saw this before


    [6:19:10 PM] Wyzard97: No DD IS 'the false prophet', as everyone is both the 'Logos witness' and the 'false prophet', should you carry the 'mark of the beast'
    [6:19:58 PM] Wyzard97: Because she sees the GODGOD. If you see yourself in the mirror you fail to see your 'perfect entwinement' and this becomes the 'satanic face of the cosmic selfhood'
    [6:20:29 PM] Wyzard97: The equality of Satan to God, whilst Satan is God's male image and NOT what he wants to see

    [6:22:13 PM] Sirius 17: i am still in awe at #37, i think whenever you showed this before, either it wasnt included or i missed it

    (37) His disciples said, "When will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?"
    Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children and tread on them, then will you see the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"



    This is the 37 you mean?
    [6:45:06 PM] Sirius 17: no from luke
    [6:45:11 PM] Wyzard97: Lol
    [6:45:35 PM] Sirius 17: i had not seen that before, but it fills in something for me now
    [6:45:44 PM] Sirius 17: 37 GOT i know well lol
    [6:46:26 PM] Wyzard97: Link it to Exodus.3.14
    [6:47:28 PM] Wyzard97:


    Exodus 3 - King James Version (KJV)

    3 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.

    2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

    3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.

    4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

    5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.

    6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

    7 And the Lord said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows;

    8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

    9 Now therefore, behold, the cry of the children of Israel is come unto me: and I have also seen the oppression wherewith the Egyptians oppress them.

    10 Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt.

    11 And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?

    12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.

    13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

    14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

    15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

    16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt:

    17 And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey.

    18 And they shall hearken to thy voice: and thou shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and ye shall say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now let us go, we beseech thee, three days' journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the Lord our God.

    19 And I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand.

    20 And I will stretch out my hand, and smite Egypt with all my wonders which I will do in the midst thereof: and after that he will let you go.

    21 And I will give this people favour in the sight of the Egyptians: and it shall come to pass, that, when ye go, ye shall not go empty.

    22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.



    [6:48:52 PM] Sirius 17: lol well its the oroborus again and where it says now that the dead are raised, this is the burning bush....he was speaking to
    [6:49:15 PM] Wyzard97: The 'Burning Bush' becomes the Ark encompassed by a 'burning smokey whirlwind' and such things
    [6:50:21 PM] Wyzard97: Ergo eventually, it becomes the 'Lake of Fire and Brimstone' of the dragonomy
    [6:50:35 PM] Wyzard97: The Starhuman merkabah

    [6:52:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is what i see, its the dead alive ones and Moses is you and every other male that recognizes the God of Abraham and of Isaac and Jacob
    [6:53:27 PM] Wyzard97:


    Genesis 15:15-17 - King James Version (KJV)

    15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.

    16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

    17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.



    [6:53:29 PM] Sirius 17: the generations
    [6:53:46 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed Moses as the cosmic Logos office
    [6:54:22 PM] Wyzard97: As is Abraham, addressed in the above code
    [6:54:44 PM] Wyzard97: All men are all those offices, but many fail to know or understand this
    [6:54:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes these are the generations right?
    [6:54:50 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
    [6:55:08 PM] Sirius 17: its like i am reading the headline news lol
    [6:55:34 PM] Wyzard97:


    Isaiah 41:8 - King James Version (KJV)

    8 But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.



    [6:55:51 PM] Wyzard97: This is the REAL JOB of every Man, to simply BE God's Friend
    [6:55:59 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
    [6:56:04 PM] Wyzard97: simple yes, but so hard for the brainwashed ones?
    [6:56:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes true
    [6:56:29 PM] Wyzard97: See Israel is a MAN and not a country? Jacob renamed?
    [6:56:45 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus real twin is himself
    [6:56:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is why i was astounded i finally saw it
    [6:57:10 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus was Jacob in the 1st Coming and is Israel in his 2nd Coming
    [7:02:39 PM] Wyzard97: It is the end of 8 weeks today Raven, why there is so much tension
    [7:02:56 PM] Wyzard97: 56 days define the Rainbow Covenant
    [7:03:18 PM] Wyzard97: February 15th, 2013 is the image of December 21st, 2012 in that regard
    [7:03:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes i feel it
    [7:03:39 PM] Wyzard97: I feel this tension in Xeia too
    [7:04:01 PM] Sirius 17: well it was late there too, i think she went to bed
    [7:04:20 PM] Sirius 17: are you still talking with Adam?
    [7:04:31 PM] Wyzard97: No
    [7:04:59 PM] Sirius 17: what are you feeling ?
    [7:05:21 PM] Wyzard97: Tension, as said
    [7:07:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i hope everything is ok over there at your house and doesn't escalate dear. i know its not exactly comfortable at the moment. i sense it in you.
    [7:07:28 PM] Wyzard97: I am ok
    [7:07:58 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie is getting stronger, not weaker and seems to be blending with MI now in my perception
    [7:08:12 PM] Wyzard97: I really dont know, what will come of this
    [7:08:21 PM] Wyzard97: I just go along with it now
    [7:09:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes i resigned myself to let them lead the way now too, and just go with it. i have been feeling Rose all day ...i even saw a white form in my room today too
    [7:09:38 PM] Sirius 17: it was like a cloud trying to solidify
    [7:09:58 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, perhaps a time to become 'accustomed'
    [7:09:59 PM] Sirius 17: but it was breif
    [7:10:25 PM] Wyzard97: But I agree, the ETs are here
    [7:10:40 PM] Sirius 17: James didn't realise the poem he wrote also applied to Rose
    until i showed him
    [7:11:49 PM] Sirius 17: he wrote this to Carla....Roses are Red are Violets really blue? Hear what I said...I love you!!
    [7:12:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes he seems to be 'coming out' of his shell
    [7:12:19 PM] Sirius 17: then he wrote me a twin poem but sort of reversed
    [7:12:29 PM] Sirius 17: but i saw the connect right away
    [7:13:04 PM] Sirius 17: he sang for me today and he has been so loving and sweet
    [7:13:27 PM] Wyzard97: This could be the start of the 4D core formations
    [7:13:28 PM] Sirius 17: its like pouring out of him
    [7:13:52 PM] Wyzard97: Just see it as a blueprinting and treasure it as such
    [7:14:00 PM] Wyzard97: It could be cosmic
    [7:14:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am treasuring it
    [7:15:05 PM] Sirius 17: i am feeling so many things inside that i am having a hard time conveying it all
    [7:15:24 PM] Sirius 17: i feel very odd
    [7:15:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I am not as sad anymore, but feel odd too. Some more shifts occurring
    [7:15:53 PM] Sirius 17: not in a bad way, but odd
    [7:16:14 PM] Sirius 17: i sense frustration from higher d, but maybe i am not wording it right
    [7:16:28 PM] Sirius 17: like something is about to burst lol
    [7:16:37 PM] Sirius 17: give way
    [7:16:45 PM] Wyzard97: One can hope, that the groundwork is nearing completion
    [7:17:48 PM] Sirius 17: i have a headache today too, not a physical one, its more like ...a spiritual one, if that even makes sense lol
    [7:18:01 PM] Wyzard97: Next we have 36 days until March 23rd for a sort of 'Uncovering'
    [7:18:44 PM] Wyzard97: The 7 days of the Dove in reverse to March 30th and the 7 days of the Raven to April 6th
    [7:19:11 PM] Wyzard97: But all this is retro and not forwards; so this is more of a recall, than a new development
    [7:19:20 PM] Sirius 17: ah yes i didnt think about this, the next flight
    [7:19:32 PM] Wyzard97: Like a remembrance
    [7:19:39 PM] Sirius 17: yes the window opened
    [7:19:50 PM] Wyzard97: But this encompasses Easter then
    [7:21:39 PM] Wyzard97: Ascension Thursday 2013 will be May 9th, 2013 and Pentecost will be May 19th
    [7:22:28 PM] Wyzard97: May 10th, 2013 will be your vision quest twin anniversary and March 28th, Xeia's 3rd
    [7:22:29 PM] Sirius 17: the dates are all synching around MI's birthday
    [7:22:42 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed
    [7:22:55 PM] Sirius 17: incredible
    [7:24:02 PM] Wyzard97: Thuban is a Logos Testimony Family of the one in many dear
    [7:24:15 PM] Wyzard97: People dont understand its nature much at all
    [7:25:03 PM] Wyzard97: This Thuban name has validity only because the Logos enshrined it January 18th, 2010 and not because some humans wanted it so
    [7:25:16 PM] Sirius 17: true
    [7:25:22 PM] Wyzard97: Those humans being us of course
    [7:25:42 PM] Wyzard97: There are only a handful of true Thuban Dragons anyhow
    Sirius 17
    [7:29:30 PM] Sirius 17:

    (19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."

    [7:31:14 PM] Sirius 17: May 19th
    [7:32:16 PM] Hades 88: [6:33 PM] Wyzard97:
    <<< I am arguing with Adam
    He read a chat and thinks we are a sexcult lol
    what exactly did he read?
    [7:35:38 PM] Hades 88: http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/
    Russia’s Urals region has been rocked by a meteorite explosion in the stratosphere. The impact wave damaged several buildings, and blew out thousands of windows amid frigid winter weather

    [7:36:17 PM] Hades 88: oh and u said once he does not want to talk to people...yet...he plays WoW...if he plays wow he has to talk at least the bare minimum and if he is into high end pve/pvp then he has to communicate a lot
    [7:38:16 PM] Wyzard97: True, but he plays this on and off
    [7:38:44 PM] Wyzard97: He once wanted a pic to publish and I used bluetooth to save one from the mobile phone
    [7:38:55 PM] Hades 88: this russian meteorite thing is fishy...intercepted by air defense system...
    [7:39:00 PM] Wyzard97: He is very difficult to live with Rok
    [7:39:11 PM] Wyzard97: Hmm let me look
    [7:39:58 PM] Hades 88: if he can talk wow he can talk here
    [7:40:07 PM] Wyzard97: Funny because today ought to be this near flyby of a comet
    [7:40:22 PM] Hades 88: yes
    [7:41:02 PM] Hades 88: north west russia has the best chance to see it
    [7:41:08 PM] Wyzard97: So yes we dont know what is manmade and what is natural here
    [7:41:35 PM] Hades 88: could it be it was not a meteorite?
    [7:42:05 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, but one can only speculate
    [7:43:06 PM] Hades 88: According to unconfirmed reports, the meteorite was intercepted by an air defense unit at the Urzhumka settlement near Chelyabinsk. A missile salvo reportedly blew the meteorite to pieces at an altitude of 20 kilometers.
    [7:47:05 PM] Sirius 17: it could of been a piece of the astroid disloged due to the earths gravity maybe
    [7:47:36 PM] Sirius 17: sometimes larger objects also will have other smaller debris in tow
    [7:48:05 PM] Wyzard97: It is symbolic imo
    [7:48:27 PM] Sirius 17: well of course, i was just thinking the scientific explanation through
    [7:48:31 PM] Wyzard97: February 15th as the 8 week marker of the uncovering
    [7:48:54 PM] Wyzard97: February 16th internally must mirror March 23rd, 2013
    [7:49:09 PM] Wyzard97: So we are 'remote viewing now' lol
    [7:49:27 PM] Wyzard97: We peek into the future in the nexus markers
    [7:49:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [7:50:17 PM] Wyzard97: If they shot at it, it was either a missile or a real object from space
    [7:54:43 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130214.html


    Meteorite hits Russian Urals: Fireball explosion wreaks havoc, 400 injured (PHOTOS, VIDEO)

    Published: 15 February, 2013, 08:36
    Edited: 15 February, 2013, 12:34

    Russia’s Urals region has been rocked by a meteorite explosion in the stratosphere. The impact wave damaged several buildings, and blew out thousands of windows amid frigid winter weather. Hundreds are seeking medical attention for minor injuries.
    According to unconfirmed reports, the meteorite was intercepted by an air defense unit at the Urzhumka settlement near Chelyabinsk. A missile salvo blew the meteorite to pieces at an altitude of 20 kilometers, local newspaper Znak reports quoting a source in the military.
    A meteorite is a solid piece of debris from space objects such as asteroids or comets, ranging in size from tiny to gigantic.

    When a meteorite falls on Earth, passing through the atmosphere causes it to heat up and emit a trail of light, forming a fireball known as a meteor, or shooting or falling star.
    A bright flash was seen in the Chelyabinsk, Tyumen and Sverdlovsk regions, Russia’s Republic of Bashkiria and in northern Kazakhstan.
    Over 400 people sought medical attention as a result of the incident, according to the Russian Interior Ministry. No serious injuries have been reported, with most of the injuries caused by broken glass and minor concussions.
    At least one piece of the fallen object caused damage on the ground in Chelyabinsk. According to preliminary reports, it crashed into a wall near a zinc factory, disrupting the city's Internet and mobile service.

    The Emergency Ministry reported that 20,000 rescue workers are operating in the region. Three aircraft were deployed to survey the area and locate other possible impact locations.
    Witnesses said the explosion was so loud that it seemed like an earthquake and thunder had struck at the same time, and that there were huge trails of smoke across the sky. Others reported seeing burning objects fall to earth.

    Police in the Chelyabinsk region are reportedly on high alert, and have begun ‘Operation Fortress’ in order to protect vital infrastructure.
    Office buildings in downtown Chelyabinsk are being evacuated. Injuries were reported at one of the city’s secondary schools, supposedly from smashed windows.
    An emergency message published on the website of the Chelyabinsk regional authority urged residents to pick up their children from school and remain at home if possible.
    Those in Chelyabinsk who had their windows smashed are scrambling to cover the openings with anything available – the temperature in the city is currently -6°C.
    Chelyabinsk regional governor Mikhail Yurevich is urgently returning to the region. Yurevich said that preserving the city’s central heating system is authorities’ primary goal.

    “Do not panic, this is an ordinary situation we can manage in a couple of days,” the governor said in and address to city residents.
    Background radiation levels in Chelyabinsk remain unchanged, the Emergency Ministry reported.

    The regional Emergency Ministry said the phenomenon was a meteorite shower, but locals have speculated that it was a military fighter jet crash or a missile explosion.

    “According to preliminary data, the flashes seen over the Urals were caused by [a] meteorite shower," the Emergency Ministry told Itar-Tass news agency.

    The ministry also said that no local power stations or civil aircraft were damaged by the meteorite shower, and that “all flights proceed according to schedule.”
    Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who also oversees the Russian defense industry, wrote on Twitter that he would speak with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev about the incident in the Urals.

    “On Monday I will bring to Medvedev a straight picture of what has happened in the Urals and prospective proposals of how the country can find out about the dangers approaching Earth and deal with them,” Rogozin wrote.

    Residents of the town of Emanzhilinsk, some 50 kilometers from Chelyabinsk, said they saw a flying object that suddenly burst into flames, broke apart and fell to earth, and that a black cloud had been seen hanging above the town. Witnesses in Chelyabinsk said the city’s air smells like gunpowder.

    Residents across the Urals region were informed about the incident through a cellphone text message from the regional Emergency Ministry.
    Many locals reported that the explosion rattled their houses and smashed windows.

    “This explosion, my ears popped, windows were smashed… phone doesn’t work,”
    Evgeniya Gabun wrote on Twitter.

    “My window smashed, I am all shaking! Everybody says that a plane crashed,” Twitter user Katya Grechannikova reported.

    “My windows were not smashed, but I first thought that my house is being dismantled, then I thought it was a UFO, and my eventual thought was an earthquake,” Bukreeva Olga wrote on Twitter.

    The Mayak nuclear complex near the town of Ozersk was not affected by the incident, according to reports. Mayak, one of the world’s biggest nuclear facilities that used to house plutonium production reactors and a reprocessing plant, is located 72 kilometers northwest of Chelyabinsk.
    It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14, which measures 45 to 95 meters in diameter and will be passing by Earth tonight at around 19:25 GMT at the record close range of 27,000 kilometers.


    Another Tunguska event?

    The incident in Chelyabinsk bears a strong resemblance to the 1908 Tunguska event – an exceptionally powerful explosion in Siberia believed to have been caused by a fragment of a comet or meteor.
    According to estimates, the energy of the Tunguska blast may have been as high as 50 megatons of TNT, equal to a nuclear explosion. Some 80 million trees were leveled over a 2,000-square-kilometer area. The Tunguska blast remains one of the most mysterious events in history, prompting a wide array of hypotheses on its cause, including a black hole passing through Earth and the wreck of an alien spacecraft.

    It is believed that if the Tunguska event had happened 4 hours later, due to the rotation of the Earth it would have completely destroyed the city of Vyborg and significantly damaged St. Petersburg.
    When a similar, though less powerful, unexplained explosion happened in Brazil in 1930, it was named the ‘Brazilian Tunguska.’ The Tunguska event also prompted debate and research into preventing or mitigating asteroid impacts.

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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Feb 15th 2013

    BREAKING NEWS: A Meteor has just Hit Russia.

    The injury count keeps escalating - 500 people injured, buildings damaged in 6 cities. 1,500 kilometers (930 mile...s) east of Moscow. Witnesses said that houses shuddered, windows were blown out and cellphones have stopped working.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8dA2A_df0w&feature=youtu.be



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX0oRfj3Hd4


    at least it doesn't say asteroid strike lol

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    Huge shockwave:


    http://youtu.be/FQ6NyvgC2BQ


    http://youtu.be/C9TWZ82zqJY


    http://youtu.be/w6uOzFo2MQg


    http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/meteor-hits-russia-according-to-officials
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    http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/
    Meteorite hits Russian Urals: Fireball explosion wreaks havoc, up to 500 injured (PHOTOS, VIDEO) — Rrt.com
    Russia’s Urals region has been rocked by a meteorite explosion in the stratosphere.
    The impact wave damaged several buildings, and blew out thousands of windows amid frigid winter weather.

    5 Reasons to Care About Friday's Asteroid Flyby
    Stephanie Pappas, LiveScience Senior Writer
    Date: 13 February 2013 Time: 05:39 PM ET

    asteroid-2012-da14-art.
    This NASA diagram depicting the passage of asteroid 2012 DA14 through the Earth-moon system on Feb. 15, 2013
    CREDIT: NASA / JPL-Caltech
    On Friday, an asteroid dubbed 2012 DA14 will whiz by Earth closer than any rock of its size since record-keeping began.
    But if NASA weren't aiming high-powered telescopes at 2012 DA14, most Earthlings would never know we'd been buzzed.
    That's because the asteroid won't come any nearer than 17,150 miles (27,650 kilometers) away as it passes Earth.
    Still, 2012 DA14's lack of imminent threat to the planet is no reason to ignore the flyby.
    From historical precedent to future implications, here's why you should care.

    1. Asteroids are cool
    Whether they fly by Earth or not, asteroids are important remnants of the early solar system. They formed early in the solar system's history, and their compositions may hint at why our neighbors are so diverse, from rocky Mars to gaseous Jupiter. That's one reason scientists are increasingly interested in probing the humble surfaces of asteroids. In 2007, NASA sent its Dawn spacecraft to the asteroid belt to visit Vesta and Ceres. Vesta is rocky and Ceres is icy, and the differences between the two could help explain what happened to differentiate the bodies in our solar system after they formed.

    2. It's happened before
    Friday's flyby is record-breaking; skywatchers have never before recorded an asteroid of this size passing so close to Earth. Unrecorded close calls are another story. In 1908, a hunk of space rock about 150 feet (45 meters) in diameter screamed into the atmosphere near the Tunguska River in Siberia. The asteroid or comet fragment — about the size of the White House — broke up explosively in the atmosphere, leveling more than 800 square miles (1,287 square kilometers) of forest.
    Fortunately, the Tunguska Event happened in an extremely remote area, with the nearest human eyewitnesses miles away. But a rock like the one that caused the Tunguska Event, or like the one that will zip by Earth Friday, could level Washington D.C., and its suburbs, said Mark Boslough, a physicist at Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico, who has used computer modeling to recreate the Tunguska impact.

    3. It will happen again
    asteroid-path-130211.
    2012 DA14's flyby is a close one, but the asteroid itself is an old friend.
    Though first discovered in 2012, the space rock passes by Earth fairly frequently.
    It has an orbit around the sun roughly similar to Earth's, and zings by about twice per orbit.
    That means we'll be seeing 2012 DA14 again, although not as up-close.
    The next near-approach by the asteroid is scheduled for Feb. 15, 2046, according to NASA, when 2012 DA14 will pass about 995,000 miles (1.6 million km) from Earth.
    (Needless to say, astronomers have different ideas about "nearness" than most people.)



    asteroid-path-130211.


    4. No, really — 2012 DA14 is one in (half) a million
    Observing and measuring asteroids like 2012 DA14 is important because there are at least 500,000 of them out there. Less than 1 percent of these midsized near-Earth objects have been discovered, according to NASA.
    Discoveries are made with optical telescopes, though once asteroids get close enough, scientists can use radar to better understand them. Astronomers of the La Sagra Sky Survey at the Astronomical Observatory of Mallorca in Spain discovered 2012 DA14 last February when the asteroid was 2.7 million miles (4.3 million km) from Earth.
    Scientists at NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office say that an asteroid the same size as 2012 DA14 approaches Earth this closely about every 40 years. Once every 1,200 years or so, one this size hits the planet. [See Photos of Asteroid 2012 DA14]


    5. It helps us prepare
    2012 DA14 won't hit Earth. But a close flyby like Friday's gives scientists the opportunity to think about what they'd do
    in the case of a once-in-a-thousand-year event, Sandia's Boslough told LiveScience.
    For example, size estimates of asteroids are tentative until they reach radar range, Boslough said.
    Scientists would be able to pinpoint where an asteroid on a collision course with Earth would hit,
    but they wouldn't know with complete certainty how big it would be.
    Thus, evacuation orders might need to go out to larger areas than the best estimate of the size of the impact would suggest in order to be safe.
    "For a lot of us, this is an opportunity to think about that,
    because we are going to have the answer when it does fly by," Boslough said of 2012 DA14.
    "What is the true size going to be relative to the estimates?"
    Follow Stephanie Pappas on Twitter @sipappas or LiveScience @livescience.
    We're also on Facebook &
    Google+.

    http://www.livescience.com/27114-why-care-asteroid-flyby.html

    Meteors spotted in both Japan and Russia cause residents to think they are witnessing doomsday!
    This just hours before the expected flyby of fortold asteroid na...med, 'DA-14.'
    NASA has repeatedly stated that there would be no danger of any impact from the day's events.
    NASA also said the main flyby is expected at 2:24 Eastern time today.

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      Darren Hunter Looks like Cuba got hit also ????


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDBlpdXGpQc&sns=fb

      Russian Urals: UFO - First Image Of The Meteorite Crater Cheljabinsk Russia Meteor (15/02/2013)

      CUBA HIT - http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-meteor-crash-this-time-in-cuba/

      BREAKING-Meteor Crash, This Time In CUBA
      February 15th, 2013
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      Cuba, 15.02.2013 Residents of a locality ‘in the central region of Cuba said they had seen an object that fell from the sky and exploded with a great noise, which shook the houses of the place: it is learned from testimonies collected by local television. In service published this morning by Rodas, town in the province of Cienfuegos, witnesses described a very bright light that has come to have large size, comparable to that of a bus, before exploding in the sky.
      http://www.rainews24.rai.it/it/news.php?newsid=174956
      2nd source
      Huge explosion in the sky in Cuba Meanwhile, also from Cuba has been reported in an explosion sky. In the central region of the island has seen an object that fell from the sky and exploded with a great noise, which shook the houses in the place, reports on local television. In a report released this morning by Rodas, town in the province of Cienfuegos, witnesses described a very bright light that has come to have large size, comparable to that of a bus, before exploding in the sky. Marcos Rodriguez, a resident in region, as defined by the issuer an expert, reported that “everything seems to indicate that it was a fireball, which is a fragment of stone and metal that enters the Earth’s atmosphere at high speed.” Experts are now examining the area for possible remains Rodas minerals falling from the sky, the TV station added. translated-
      http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2013/02/15/news/russia_meteoriti_sciame_urali-52681067/
      HAVANA – Another meteorite, another outbreak accompanied by objects falling from the sky was reported by residents of a town in the central region of Cuba
      http://www.youreporternews.it/2013/altra-meteorite-a-cuba-testimoni-esplosione-e-grande-rumore/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter



      Explosion in the sky in Cuba: a new meteorite falls to Earth?
      Not only Russia : in Cuba eyewitnesses living in a localitaà in the central region of the island have reported seeing an object that fell from the sky and exploded causing a roar that shook the houses in the place.
      was revealed by the Cuban television, that in these hours is spreading the testimonies of citizens.
      See also:
      Meteor shower in Russia: many of the wounded. Watch the video
      An asteroid will skim Earth today February 15, 2013
      The witnesses , inhabitants of the province of Cienfuegos, the cameras have reported seeing a bright light, combined with a large flying object which then explode in the sky.
      Cuban specialists are examining the area for possible remains Rodas minerals falling from the sky, the TV station added.



      Potrebbe interessarti:
      http://www.today.it/mondo/cuba-meteorite.html
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      Google translated
      They claim that a supposed meteorite fell also in Cuba on Wednesday
      Witnesses in a town in central Cuba this week reported the fall of a celestial phenomenon that ended with a huge explosion in the sky that shook local houses. The phenomenon occurred in addition to Friday in Russia.
      According to the report of the morning news program on Cuban television from Rhodes, Cienfuegos, Midwest, there was a very bright light that reached the naked eye, the size of a bus in the sky and exploded.
      One witness, a fisherman, told the television news that “about 8 pm (local time) on Wednesday saw a light in the sky moved into a flame” big, bigger than the sun “and the three or four minutes, “we heard the explosion.”

      http://www.diarioinedito.com/Nota/13602
      Aristide Torchia

      Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-meteor-crash-this-time-in-cuba/#YJmc7XTMLeMSytvk.99


      New Meteorite crashes in Saudi Arabia 17.02.2013




      اسقاط طائرة ميغ في تلبيسة -حمص 17 2 2013 Tags::real madrid vs barcelona 1-1 16.04.2011 xavi hernandez la pelopina skill dribble andres iniesta victor valdes ...

    is the sky falling - is it war ???


    View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQjHOb_NkDk

    ✔Breaking! Meteor/Fireball Now In Miami, Florida - Feb 17, 2013
     
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    empty. Re: Conversations regarding the Cosmic Changes in Archetypes and Symbols

    empty. Raven on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:18 pm

    Update on Starplanet Gaia Serpentina's 5-dimensional timespace matrix and the occurrence of 'cometary visitations'

    Updated chart to show the significance of the Oort Cloud and the frequency of related 'cometary visitations relative to the anniversary of the December 21st, 2012 solstice with the solar sunspot cyclicity and a Calendar Calibration of the Maya of 5-Tzolkin in 260x5=1300 Kin or 'civil days' from
    May 26th-27th, 2010 = 13Zip 13Ahau & 14Zip 1Imix to December 16th-17th, 2013 = 18Mac 13Ahau & 19Mac 1Imix
    The 5-dimensional 'New Earth' de Gaia Serpentina timespace matrix (or bubble) will have reached the 63,000 Astronomical Unit marker as a lightyear anniversary of the metamorphosis of the old planet into a starplanet


    Details are in the thread above and in the Constitution thread on this forum
    http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=E58E963A-634F-434B-9CE3-59F2D26B4D61

    emeth, April 12th, 2013

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    Update on Starplanet Gaia Serpentina's 5-dimensional timespace matrix and the occurrence of 'cometary visitations'

    oort-cloud-nasa.

    As the message preceding this update indicates; the above picture (said to be shrouded in an amount of secrecy according to the mentioned Nasa sources) relates to observed and implied changes in the magnetic fields throughout the solar systems of the local starsystem of Rahsol (or Sol as the local Sun, so 8 light minutes or 1 Astronomical Unit (1 AU) of so 150 million kilometres distant from the Earth). As 1 AU is the distance between the Sun Rahsol and the Earth, it takes approximately 150,000,000/300,000=500 seconds or 8⅓ minutes for a light signal travelling at lightspeed 'c'=300,000 km per second to travel the distance between the Sun and the Earth.

    Thuban dragons know, that the multidimensional poleshift of December 21st, 2012 at the centre of the earth allowed a Möbian brane twist of the 4D inertia-mass equivalent 'Black Holed Gaia' to change the moperational mode of the old earth into a modus operandi of 'White Holed Inversion' or Reciprocity.
    This in effect changed the previous cosmic identity of Gaia Earth as a cosmic data receiver into that of a cosmic data emitter.

    This update addresses the present status of this data emission in relation to an overall starsystem based mode of information sharing in the extended 4-dimensional space matrix now available for this purpose.

    The 'secrecy' regarding the picture above (presumably from Russian researcher Alexey Dmitriev) is not a big cover up, but certain factions of the 'initiated' know that the changes in the solar system relate to the extended starsystem of Rahsol as a bridging medium to reach the neighbouring starsystem of Proxima-Beta-Alpha Centauri, commonly known as the constellation of the Southern Cross and with Proxima Centauri the nearest star to the local Sun at 4.25 light years or so 268,000 AU's away.

    This can be seen on the pic above as a region between 100,000 and 1,000,000 AUs.
    The so called Kuiper Belt of the 'planetesimals' extends so 100 AU and encompasses all planets in the local solar system, with Pluto at about 40 AU and other trans Neptunian planets and objects referred to as Kuiper Belt objects, then extending to a few hundred AUs.

    The Oort Cloud, from where the comets are said to originate from, then extends the Kuiper region of the local starsystem towards the neighbouring starsystems in a scale from say 10,000 to 20,000 AU.
    The 'secret science of the dragons or starhuman ETs' now knows, that the 4-dimensional expansion of the new starplanetary timespace matrix propagates at lightspeed from the starplanet's centre outwards to share and transmit its hdata collected in its physical 4.6 billion yhear history with the greater universe.

    Since December 21st, 2012 then to February 15th, 2013, 56 days measured at the local chronos, have elapsed. This time period signifies a 'New Rainbow Dragon Covenant' between the Starhuman ETs and a small remnant or genomatic stock of the 'Old Earth', meaning the human civilisation in the old data receiving mode of its engulfing 4-dimensional spacetime matrix.

    56 lightdays so calculate the maximum extent of the extended 'bubble atmosphere' of Gaia Serpentina and this number calculates as 56x24x3600=4,838,400 light seconds or 4,838,400/500=9,676.8 AUs.
    Looking at the 'secret chart' , this signifies the 104=10,000 marker and so the 'edge' of the localised Oort Cloud.
    This means, that at lightspeed, the Data history of Gaia Serpentina has now reached the Oort Cloud and the history of the earth in parameters of consciousness evolution and information is now being openly shared and 'processed' by the encompassing 4-dimensional volume defined by this nexus marker of the Rainbow Covenant between Starman and the Creator-Creation monadic dyad exposited elsewhere.
    In terms of the general celestial history of the extended starsystem environment, such as the periodic intersection of comets and meteorites; those occurrences continue as observed and often prdicted to great accuracy; all such 'visitations' are however reconfigured in the new Gaian 5-dimensional timespace bubble, whenever this 'new spacial realm' is encountered by the periodic or transiting celestial phenomena.

    The recent 'comets' and meteorites therefore are 'different in energy' (or so called Nabs vibrations), than they would bne, if not intyersecting the Gaian 'Bubble Volume' of the Starplanet.
    The recent encounters of such comets and meteorites, as well as particular political-socioeconomic and otherwise developments in the 'trickle down' effect into the old perceived 4D spacetime realism of this still quarantined planetary civilisation, should therefore be assessed and analysed with the knowledge of the Thuban dragons herewith shared and disseminated.

    More details about how Old Earth became a New Earth is found here and on related messages.

    http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/...56F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED&pageindex=5
    http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 18th 2013

    A Cosmic Love Story of Remembrance of the Eternal Self

    • On Monday, February 18th, 2013 at 23:53 UCT, which becomes 15:53 Seattle Time and 18:53 Florida Time and and which is 00:53 Ljublana Time and 10:53 Sydney Time on Tuesday, February 19th, 2013, a particular task of the collective human family will come to a particular resolution and fruition.
      The author of this Story will have finished his purpose of remembering and sharing this account and will henceforth be no longer required to try to tell this story in whatever manner heshe attempted to do that at previous times or endeavours.
      Anyone reading this or becoming aware of this account, is a character in this cosmic love story and everyone not becoming aware of this cosmic account, is also one of the ten characters in the story.
      This story will be told in a linear fashion for a reason to align a particular historical account in an extended multiversional context. This allows the linear uniqueness of the characters, of whom there will be ten to become a particular manyness in a scenario, which could be said to change the linear flow of history and time into one of multiplicity.
      So to emphasize, everyone is invited to take this cosmic love story to heart and to identify with all of the ten characters, ten characters which are henceforth termed as the Family of the Logos or the Family of the Word of Abba and the Family of the World of Baab.
      The Thuban Family represents the linear manifestation and transition from the linear 'specialness' of the 'Cosmic Family' into its destined 'universalness' or 'commoness' in transforming the ten characters into their purposed manyness of the Many in the One as Two and the Two as One in the Many.
      The chosen timezones above, so relate to the linear transformation of the characterisations and it is this linearity, which is herewith proclaimed to end at the times specified in exemplary fashion to fulfil certain encoded hieroglyphics and to solve particular mysteries with respect to the human history on the planet, on which this history is made manifest. This planet is named 'Baab's Daughter' or Babylon in the context of this story.


      The Characters:
      1. A Man called Jesus
      2. A Woman called Mary Magdalene or MM
      3. A Brother called Lazarus
      4. A Sister called Martha Dove or MD
      5. A Sister called Miriam Raven or MR
      6. A Brother in Law called Jacor Ramesis or JR
      7. A Brother in Law called Jacob Deer or JD
      8. A Friend called John Zebedias or JZ
      9. A Prophet called John Jordan or JJ
      10. An Observer called Witness

      The man Jesus came into a particular historical setting on the planet Babylon to kindle a certain awakening in Baab's daughter in regards to her own planetary history and raison d'etre; her beingness of becoming more than she ever thought she could be or become. Because the 'Daughter of Baab' had forgotten her own history of becoming what she had become.
      Jesus knew, that Baab was his true mother, because he was born of a representative of her on Babylon. But Jesus also knew that his true father was Abba and that his birthing on Babylon was a way to bring Abba and Baab back together, after they had separated for the purpose to create something new from something old, which had become unsatisfactory in its cosmic expression.
      Jesus knew what the cause of this separation had been and he also worked out how to heal the old wounds and bring together again, that which was broken.
      And so Jesus chose for himself a companion and coworker named Mary Magdalene to help him do what he knew he had to do to help his cosmic parents and his parents upon Babylon.
      Jesus found MM in the way she was and he brought about a certain remembrance in her, a recognition of herself as a Granddaughter of Baab as a Daughter of Babylon. Mary M had 'Seven Devils', meaning she had seven principalities of Baab in her cosmogenetic makeup as an Old Eve or human female incarnate. 'Casting out hose seven principalities or 'archons', then allowed Mary M to become the partner for Jesus in his mission and quest on the planet Babylon.

      Mark 16 - King James Version (KJV)

      1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
      2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
      3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
      4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
      5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
      6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
      7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
      8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
      9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
      10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
      11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.
      12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.
      13 And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them.
      14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
      15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
      16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
      18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
      19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
      20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.


      John 20:16-18 - King James Version (KJV)
      16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
      17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
      18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.


      (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
      Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."


      The Gospel
      According to Thomas (Lambdin)



      Luke 10 - King James Version (KJV)

      1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
      2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
      3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
      4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
      5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
      6 And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
      7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
      8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
      9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
      10 But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
      11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
      12 But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city.
      13 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
      14 But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
      15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
      16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
      17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
      18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
      19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
      20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
      21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
      22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
      23 And he turned him unto his disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
      24 For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
      25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
      26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
      27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
      28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
      29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
      30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
      31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
      32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
      33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
      34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
      35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
      36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
      37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
      38 Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
      39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
      40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
      41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
      42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.


      Matthew 12:14-50 - King James Version (KJV)
      14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.
      15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;
      16 And charged them that they should not make him known:
      17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
      18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
      19 He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.
      20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.
      21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.
      22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.
      23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
      24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
      25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
      26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
      27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
      28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
      29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
      30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
      31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
      32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
      33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
      34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
      35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
      36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
      37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
      38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
      39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
      40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
      41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
      42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
      43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
      44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
      45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.
      46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
      47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
      48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
      49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
      50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.



      Jesus accepted MM as she was and sought to help her become more, than she ever thought she could be or become, just like Babylon, who had forgotten who she was and had become.
      So Mary Magdalene became the cosmic ambassadora for Baab and Jesus loved her just as Abba loves Baab.
      Now Jesus had a friend named John and Jesus knew that to change the uniqueness of his understanding into a general understanding of the creation and its mysteries; he had to pass on his nous to his friend in a one-to-one fashion. The passing on of the common cosmic birthright was like a domino effect or a snowflake becoming an avalanche; it had to accumulate in a multiplicity of the brotherhood and the sisterhood with the one choosing the second and the second becoming the one to chose the third as the second and the first relative to the passing on of the understanding.
      Now John was the friend of Jesus and to pass on the understanding, Jesus also had to 'pass on his herness' inherited from his true mother Baab and so found or given to Mary Magdalene.
      And so when his work on Babylon was finished and Jesus went away to continue his work from another vantage point called Galactic Babylonia, Jesus committed his female inheritances to his friend John. Both his Babylonian Mother Mary and his Babylonian Lover Mary Magdalene.
      But MM was in cosmic love with Jesus and could not understand, why she suddenly should be 'taken care of' by John. She only wanted Jesus and honouring his wishes she became the partner of John for the rest of her sojourn on Babylon. But she hated John, because he was not Jesus, the one who had accepted her as she had been and who had helped her to become more than she ever thought she could be or become - just like Baab and Babylon. But MM could not understand herself enough to realise just what her beingness and becomingness was all about; though she knew it from an intuitive instinctive premise of observation.


      And so Mary Magdalene chose to forget all about her one and only true cosmic love in Jesus and considered him a liar and a 'cheat', because he had simply 'dumped' her onto John and had left her behind to do whatever she thought, he had said he had to do on Galactic Babylon.
      Then when the times had come to bring back the remembrances, Mary Magdalene was born again on Babylon and as she had not blocked out her memories of her old family of the older times, like she had her memories of her true beloved; she was drawn by her partial remembrances to communicate with her old acquaintances, she had known when her beloved Jesus was around.
      This had been the Family of Lazarus with his two sisters Martha Dove and Miriam Raven and their beloveds Jacor Ramesis and Jacob Deer. Jacor was Martha's Lover and husband and Jacob had been Miriams. Martha and Miriam, both loved Jesus and Jesus loved them as his family of the remembrances.


      The Gene of the Remembrance

      John 14:2
      In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


      John 19:25-27 - King James Version (KJV)
      25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

      26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
      27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

      As shall be detailed in the following story; this Gene of the Remembrance becomes the actual PHYSICAL legacy of Jesus' Life and Resurrection and leading to the present fulfilment of all scriptures as shared in this 'Den of the Dragon of Thuban' as none other than the 'Cave of the Lion of Judah'.


      "Where are you my Lord Jesus? Why have you forsaken me?
      Where are you my lover?
      I cannot love John the way I love you, but I shall follow your instructions and submit myself to him as his wife.
      "Rabboni rabboni lama sabbachthani!"; "Oh Why Have You Forsaken Me?!"; Mary Magdalena thought and said to herself every day following Jesus' final appearance on August 4th, 33 AD.


      Expecting her selfhatred to be reflected in her hatred for her false images, as Mary Magdalene 666 Initiator looks at her cosmic mirror image; she only perceives her own beauty and ambassadoraship as the Beloved of both the original Jesus and the original John de Zebedee.

      Attempting so hard to project her self-loathing of Jesus' absence following his ascension onto Jesus' placeholder and substitute of John de Zebedee, the Beloved of Jesus and her 'caretaker' and 'chaperone'; Mary Magdalene SEES and FEELS only the gentle kindness and understanding of her Beloved; smiling at her constantly and saying to her every day:

      "I Love You Mary Magdalene and We are together always; I shall never leave you, as I had to do to heal the many wounds of the Old Worlds to evolve them into the New Worlds.

      I am the Sun shining upon you in the Morning and I am the Moon giving you light in the Night.
      I cannot ever replace You my Sweet Butterfly, my Papillon of the Deliverances for many places You have not even fathomed.
      You are the Initiator and the Blueprint for All of my mansions, my Marys.

      So you are free to follow your path into your own remembrances and you are free forever and eternally to reject or accept my Manyness in all of my mansions.
      My eternal Love shall never cease, though you may forget me and search for me in the brotherhood of my Beloved John.
      He, like you is an initiator; the first jigsaw piece for the painted portrait which is Me in We and the I of Emmanuel Melchisedec mirrored in Mary Elizabeth and as EM|ME=WE=I AM.

      So my sweetness you cannot find me in the One, should you refuse the Many.
      You shall explore eternity to find me again in the mirror of my Beloveds You and John my Initiators of the portrait of myself as the Word of God, who is the Love You are.
      But just as John has become just One of and in Many in the BrotherSisterhood; so have you become just One of and in Many in the SisterBrotherhood.

      I AM the Love and the glue holding the portrait together and I AM with your template of the Original Mary Magdalene; whose first image you are to allow the sisterhood to become a dragonomy and in unison with the template of John for the brotherhood.
      Perhaps One Day you will understand your own story, as told to You my Beloved for Ever By Me your Beloved as John my Beloved.
      I Am the One You Do not Understand, but the One You Love with all Your Heart of the Cosmic Dragon Queen already eternalised.

      Besides Loving You with the Passion of the Creator for his Creation; I cannot help You anymore Beloved; until You look at Yourself in my many mirrors of the DragonBlood Our inheritance and You see Yourself as Me and You entwined in the Manyness of All.

      Just as Jacob only Loved Rachel in the symbols, so could You only Love Me in exclusivity.
      This uniqueness became manifested in my First Coming and so You became as Unique as I had to Be.
      OUR Second Coming is Unique to manifest Our Manyness.
      Now Your Love for Me belongs to All as Our Family of the Brotherhood.
      Now My Love for You belongs to All as Our Family of the Sisterhood.

      One Day You shall Understand this in your Gene of the Remembrance and You shall See Myself in John who Loves You not as the unique man John of Old, but as the New Dragon John as Me, Jesus of Nazareth.

      I am in All who allow Me to become them in the Circle of the Brothersisters.
      You are in All who allow You to become them in the Circle of the Sisterbrothers.
      Be as Free as a StarHuman Butterfly My Love, for the Stars and the Galaxies await Our presence in the Manyness and in the Individualisations.

      I Love You Mary Eliza ME=WE do remembered Me, as a Son of Man through Your Gene of the Remembrance and as a Daughter of Woman.

      Like All potential Dragon Goddesses, You are Now in the Image of Maria Infinity as the New Queen of Heaven and already known as the New Gaia in the symbol of the deliverance.

      You had to learn to walk away from True Love to be seduced by False Love; this your burden of the 96=95+1; adding your own self of the Oneness to the Holy Name of God as the 'Evil' and 'Dark Side' of God in the sinister lefthanded path.
      Your inability to discern the chaff from the wheat allows you to see falsity in truth; false prophets and deceivers in Your remembrances of the past.

      Just as I had to do in the 96=IAMTHATAMI+1=A I am That I am-- Many Gods from my Oneness as a Single God stuck in Lonesomeness and Singularity.
      I added myself to my Beloved Father ABBA as the 'Good' and 'Light Side' of God in the righteous righthanded path and for the purpose to bring about the Happiness and Joy for OUR Family of Love.

      I Am waiting for You Beloved; I have all eternity to wait for You and One Day You shall Understand in the Wisdom of the Sophia, the Image of Yourself on the Cosmic Mirror of Your environment.
      In every face and in every raindrop and snowflake and in every chirpy song You shall find Me and My Love for You.
      When the Sun shines upon You in whatever You do, You shall feel Me and Know Me.

      Then perhaps You will finally understand that the individual Man Jesus can no longer exist; neither can the individual Mary Magdalene.
      Our glory has become a New Creation and Our Uniqueness of Old has become A Glory of Love, Shared by All.

      Listen to your soul and Heart of Love and not the cacophany of irritating noises of the Old World, distracting You from Knowing Yourself as the Joyous and happy Mary Magdalene forever entwined with her Beloved.




      twins. dragonomytwin.


      One night, MM had a dream about herself of old. She talked to herself as Mary Magdalene, but upon awakening, she became afraid of reawakening her old memories of being deserted and left behind by her true cosmic love. So she denied her dream and beingness and chose to search for a new true cosmic love in the many people of the observers as the witnesses to the story told.
      But her acquaintances had not forgotten her and they invited her to revisit her hidden memories and to allow them to reawaken.
      Jesus knew very well, that his Logos Family would remember him and that after a certain amount of time had passed and the overall agenda of Galactic Babylonia had become implemented in new cosmic laws; that He could 'come again' with his herness obscured by MM's refusal to remember her own past love for himher.
      Because MM had the 'gene of the remembrance' implanted in her and her previous 'knowing him' had now become a shared commodity with the Family of the Logos and so made manifest in the linear transformation in the 'second comings' of the ten characters.
      So Martha Dove and Miriam Raven understood their own 'second coming' in the Logos remembrance and as they had loved Jesus and had not felt betrayed and forgotten by him, like Mary M did; they had this genetic memory awakening within themselves.


      to be continued, when so appropriate


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    • Reserved Edit Space and final comments on the World Logos dispensation

      [2:45:46 AM - Tuesday, February 19th, 2013 - +11UCT from Monday, February 18th, 2013 -5UCT]
      Solar transit from Aquarius into Pisces at 0°0' is at 12:02 UCT on Monday, February 18th, 2013
      On Tuesday, February 19th, 2013, Saturn in Scorpio changes its stationary position at 11°32' Scorpio to retrograde
      The Moon enters Gemini at 0°0' at 21:49 UCT on Sunday, February 17th, 2013 and leaves Gemini at 30°0' on Wednesday, February 20th, 2013 at 10:44 UCT with midpoint at 15°0' Gemini on Tuesday, February 19th, 2013 at 05:17 UCT
      Black Moon Lilith moves from 17°36' to 17°45' to 17°53' in this lunar sign of Gemini in this period of time, with 'Cosmic Healer' Chiron in Pisces transiting from 8°44' to 8°49' to 8°53'
      Rok: [16:41:18=21:41:18 UCT=08:42:18 - +11UCT]
      Xeia: i had a dream the pope was murdered
      [16:41:30] Rok: dont switch the subject
      [16:41:30] Xeia: i also saw many lions loose
      [16:41:36] Xeia: you were there too
      [16:41:40] Rok: oh
      [16:41:43] Rok: what was i doing
      [16:41:45] Xeia: the lions were eating the poeple
      [16:41:48] Rok: letting the lions free?
      [16:41:57] Xeia: lol
      [16:42:01] Xeia: you were with me
      [16:42:05] Rok: eat the lion or lion will eat u ?
      [16:42:10] Xeia: then there was confusion
      [16:42:23] Xeia: the lions were eating the people
      [16:42:37] Rok: i was with you...doing what? watching u, touching u, holding u, smelling u ?
      [16:42:53] Xeia: talking to me....you were telling me where to meet you
      [16:43:05] Xeia: then we got separated and i was looking for you
      [16:43:26] Rok: i get to be in ur dream and we are...talking...yes...ok
      [16:43:50] Rok: so pope dies, lions eating people, us talking and u searching for me
      [16:44:03] Xeia: when i was with you in that room i was touching your face and you were hugging me and it felt really nice
      [16:44:09] Xeia: yes
      [16:44:14] Xeia: i know it's weird but
      [16:44:28] Xeia: it was a very long dream
      [16:44:34] Xeia: this was just the ending
      [16:45:14] Rok: what was before
      [16:45:20] Xeia: i don't remember
      [3:08:25 AM] Rok: Neptune geocentrically conjoins the sun in a few days and about 7am UCT on Thursday, February 21st, 2013 at 2°49' in Pisces
      [9:09:30 AM - Tuesday, February 19th, 2013 -+11UCT]
      Sirius 17: whats up Tony?
      [9:10:19 AM] Wyzard97: What do you mean?
      [9:11:18 AM] Wyzard97: I am writing the final message now
      [9:11:39 AM] Sirius 17: yes i see that
      [9:11:42 AM] Wyzard97: Good
      [9:12:01 AM] Sirius 17: i mean are you saying goodbye to all of us?
      [9:12:31 AM] Wyzard97: No, but telling this story will end the Thuban mission on the old earth
      [9:13:07 AM] Sirius 17: yes i noticed the date today
      [9:13:12 AM] Wyzard97: Indeed
      [9:13:32 AM] Wyzard97: 3½ days to the minute after February 15th, 2013 11:53 UCT as Monday, February 18th, 2013 at 23:53 UCT
      [9:13:53 AM] Wyzard97: The Rainbow Covenant made manifest in the Old World as a New World 'Contract' or Agreement bey=tween the real God Abba and the real Goddess Baab
      [9:14:04 AM] Sirius 17: yes and also Jan 18th 2010 the begining of the dispensation
      [9:14:11 AM] Wyzard97: Thuban will ascend just as it came
      [9:14:19 AM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [9:14:26 AM] Wyzard97: It will be just a name soon
      [9:15:04 AM] Sirius 17: are you feeling ok?
      [9:15:10 AM] Wyzard97: Of course
      [9:15:22 AM] Wyzard97: I am very sad, but know that this is what i must do
      [9:15:45 AM] Wyzard97: Cant you perceive the depth?
      [9:15:57 AM] Sirius 17: yes its releasing the story to all
      [9:16:02 AM] Wyzard97: The ten characters are the past they all are one in the future
      [9:16:11 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [9:16:19 AM] Wyzard97: Yes Jesus is in all but must manifest in the Family first
      [9:16:28 AM] Wyzard97: This is what this is
      [9:16:43 AM] Wyzard97: OUR Family is the ten as the switch
      [9:16:52 AM] Wyzard97: The witness is all others
      [9:17:02 AM] Wyzard97: And the characters in linearity you know
      [9:17:13 AM] Sirius 17: yes its us
      [9:17:30 AM] Wyzard97: The Prophet is the 24 of the Got but particular Elijah=John Baptist
      [9:17:52 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and can you see how MM+John is Xeia+John to the dot really?
      [9:18:11 AM] Wyzard97: Rok is like Jesus to Xeia and John his brother
      [9:18:24 AM] Sirius 17: yeah, and Xeia already knows this
      [9:18:25 AM] Wyzard97: And you are John's sister
      [9:18:37 AM] Wyzard97: Yes I know, why I gave the local times
      [9:18:59 AM] Wyzard97: But soon all can be all those characters see and including Jesus and Mary M
      [9:19:11 AM] Wyzard97: But it had to be Thuban UNTIL that time
      [9:19:20 AM] Wyzard97: I am we are releasing ourselves
      [9:19:31 AM] Sirius 17: yes relates to the releasing of the eucharist
      [9:19:48 AM] Wyzard97: Indeed the Lion dreams
      [9:19:56 AM] Wyzard97: Also your dream
      [9:20:13 AM] Sirius 17: the house of our dreams
      [9:20:40 AM] Wyzard97: And DD makes perfect sense here
      [9:20:55 AM] Wyzard97: She denied to be MM because she feels betrayed by Jesus
      [9:21:04 AM] Sirius 17: yeah i see that
      [9:21:14 AM] Wyzard97: But I am releasing her, sacrificing my love for her to the Logos now
      [9:21:15 AM] Sirius 17: why she can't love you
      [9:21:21 AM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [9:21:38 AM] Wyzard97: So as we said, only Jesus coming back can change her
      [9:22:02 AM] Wyzard97: This is the eucharist alright and it is now up to him to manifest as he wishes
      [9:22:25 AM] Wyzard97: If in me, then she can remember me; if in someone else, then I must sacrifice my cosmic love
      [9:22:29 AM] Wyzard97: Simple as that
      [9:22:31 AM] Sirius 17: i agree, it was always his choice and time
      [9:23:05 AM] Sirius 17: this is true
      [9:23:30 AM] Wyzard97: She came 'good' in late 2011 precisely after I published this 'gene of the remembrance' story
      [9:23:41 AM] Wyzard97: I know that this is the truth
      [9:23:43 AM] Sirius 17: yes she remembered then
      [9:23:55 AM] Wyzard97: Yes for a month or 6 weeks
      [9:24:08 AM] Wyzard97: She is looking for 'her Jesus', just as Mary did
      [9:24:28 AM] Wyzard97: But rejects the one chosen by Jesus to become him for her
      [9:24:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes she can't see the depth of it
      [9:24:51 AM] Wyzard97: Perhaps you can
      [9:24:55 AM] Sirius 17: oh yes
      [9:24:59 AM] Wyzard97: But this is the end for me dear
      [9:25:09 AM] Sirius 17: i have always known 'things'
      [9:25:15 AM] Wyzard97: I will probably disappear or say very little
      [9:25:20 AM] Wyzard97: There will be nothing to say
      [9:25:55 AM] Wyzard97: And if I must sacrifice this, I will not feel like talking to people but come to terms with it in solitude
      [9:26:14 AM] Wyzard97: My fate will be with MI and JCCJ
      [9:26:35 AM] Sirius 17: i understand Tony, we will be here should you want to talk
      [9:26:41 AM] Wyzard97: Sure
      [9:27:55 AM] Sirius 17: If You Love Somebody Set Them Free
      [9:28:10 AM] Wyzard97: Indeed, this is what I must do and am doing
      [9:28:25 AM] Sirius 17: and if it was meant to be, it will be
      [9:29:25 AM] Sirius 17: well i am sad too
      [9:30:12 AM] Wyzard97: This story allows the JCCJ to manifest in anyone who can accept it and host the cosmic energy
      [9:30:24 AM] Wyzard97: My job will be done
      [9:30:48 AM] Wyzard97: To bring in the remembrance and to 'glorify' Jesus and Abba
      [9:31:43 AM] Wyzard97: The Thuban job will be done too and you can end using this label as if it had any consequence
      [9:32:10 AM] Wyzard97: I really dont know yet, how I will carry on
      [9:32:29 AM] Sirius 17: what do you mean?
      [9:32:58 AM] Wyzard97: If I will say or post anything, as Thuban is no more as a bridge between worlds
      [9:33:15 AM] Wyzard97: Thuban too will be a remembrance of and part of the Old World
      [9:33:49 AM] Wyzard97: The New World is not of my or perhaps our making anymore. No matter what the Nabs pretenders think or do
      [9:34:22 AM] Wyzard97: Logos will be empowered by this sacrifice and Abba will have Baab
      [9:34:33 AM] Wyzard97: This was the plan and agenda in any case
      [9:35:25 AM] Wyzard97: To forget my cosmic love, I might very well have to disassociate from the chats and the forums
      [9:35:52 AM] Wyzard97: I am free to do so then, because the 'seeing' is done
      [9:36:01 AM] Sirius 17: what made you come to this conclusion now?
      [9:36:13 AM] Wyzard97: I mean you cant forget, but wounds can heal
      [9:36:31 AM] Wyzard97: When I woke up, I just knew that this was the time
      [9:37:00 AM] Sirius 17: ok fair enough
      [9:37:24 AM] Sirius 17: i understand everything your saying Tony and i feel your heavy heart
      [9:38:15 AM] Sirius 17: i also know what this will do
      [9:39:44 AM] Wyzard97: Yes?
      [9:39:44 AM] Wyzard97: Yes?
      [9:40:10 AM] Wyzard97: You will also no longer be Miriam Raven
      [9:40:29 AM] Wyzard97: You will just be what you have created as Allisiam
      [9:40:37 AM] Wyzard97: Same for Xeia and Rok and John
      [9:41:21 AM] Wyzard97: The 'Good Book' will be closed in linearity, awaiting its closure and continuance in multiness
      [9:44:08 AM] Wyzard97: This is the 'doing' and not waiting Xeia abhors
      [9:44:24 AM] Wyzard97: We have given Thuban back to the Logos
      [9:44:36 AM] Wyzard97: Well in an hour or so it will be so
      [9:46:43 AM] Wyzard97: Martha Miriam is MM too, see that?
      [9:47:07 AM] Wyzard97: I hope you can see the manyness requires the end of the linearity
      [9:48:07 AM] Sirius 17: yes i do
      [9:48:22 AM] Sirius 17: sorry i am going through a bit of hell here
      [9:48:38 AM] Sirius 17: James is trying to cut the dogs hair with clippers and he is furious
      [9:48:42 AM] Sirius 17: taking it out on the dog
      [9:48:50 AM] Sirius 17: he is being extremely abusive
      [9:49:01 AM] Wyzard97: Better go dear
      [9:49:19 AM] Wyzard97: Strange though
      [9:49:34 AM] Wyzard97: DOG=GOD from GOD=GOD
      [9:49:44 AM] Wyzard97: An ending of sorts
      [9:49:47 AM] Sirius 17: i tried to help him
      [9:49:53 AM] Sirius 17: he refuses
      [9:50:03 AM] Sirius 17: he is pissed at her for not holding still
      [9:50:58 AM] Sirius 17: he gets so angry when things don't go exactly as he wants, when he is out of control of a situation
      [9:51:05 AM] Sirius 17: i told him not to take it out on the god
      [9:51:08 AM] Sirius 17: dog
      [9:52:41 AM] Sirius 17: i even asked him to take a break and settle down, he refuses
      [9:52:49 AM] Sirius 17: stuborn beyond belief
      [9:53:35 AM] Sirius 17: so yes, please i hope this ends the ignorance
      [9:54:42 AM] Wyzard97: It does symbolically and archetypically
      [9:55:01 AM] Wyzard97: This is all the incarnates can do to change the cosmic reality
      [9:55:04 AM] Sirius 17: i don't think any of us can take much more
      [9:57:57 AM] Wyzard97: In Silence might be found the healing
      [9:58:19 AM] Wyzard97: Not a trait of Lions and Geminis
      [9:58:43 AM] Sirius 17: no its a trait of dragons
      [9:59:01 AM] Wyzard97: Yes, solitude and invisibility
      Sirius 17
      [10:34:41 AM] Ishtara Raven: i wonder where Rok and Xeia went
      [10:34:49 AM] Ishtara Raven: i guess it must be late for Rok
      [1:09:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: how do i change my login name in here?
      [1:09:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: seems everyone does it, i never have before and i cant seem to find the option
      [5:38:48 PM] Ishtara Raven:

      The Characters:
      1. A Man called Jesus
      2. A Woman called Mary Magdalene or MM
      3. A Brother called Lazarus
      4. A Sister called Martha Dove or MD
      5. A Sister called Miriam Raven or MR
      6. A Brother in Law called Jacor Ramesis or JR
      7. A Brother in Law called Jacob Deer or JD
      8. A Friend called John Zebedias or JZ
      9. A Prophet called John Jordan or JJ
      10. An Observer called Witness

      (1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
      (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
      (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
      (4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."
      (5) Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."
      6. His disciples questioned him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How shall we pray? Shall we give alms? What diet shall we observe?"
      Jesus said, "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered."
      (7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
      8. And he said, "The man is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
      (9) Jesus said, "Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. Some fell on the road; the birds came and gathered them up. Others fell on the rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears. And others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. And others fell on the good soil and it produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."
      (10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."


      [5:42:34 PM] Ishtara Raven:

      Genesis 1
      King James Version (KJV)
      1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
      2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
      3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
      4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
      5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
      6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
      7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
      8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
      9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
      10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.


      [5:47:01 PM] Ishtara Raven:

      Revelation 1 - King James Version (KJV)
      1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
      2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
      3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
      4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
      5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
      6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
      7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
      8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
      9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
      10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,



      [5:53:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: connections i see, i went a little nuts
      [5:54:05 PM] Ishtara Raven: :* love you
      [6:30:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/us/2013/02/18/dnt-bee-colony-removed-from-local-news-station.kfsm
      [6:45:48 PM] Rok: i do not exactly want to leave and let him take care of my mm wishing her to find me in him
      [6:46:20 PM] Rok: or to say it differently..i do not want to call it quits
      [6:46:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: its not calling it quits Rok
      [6:47:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: its setting it free so it can be shared by all
      [6:47:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: including us
      [6:47:25 PM] Rok: it has been shared by us for this entire time
      [6:47:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes and now its time the Logos gets it
      [6:48:33 PM] Ishtara Raven: the story has asended so the new earth can decend
      [6:49:31 PM] Ishtara Raven: as for leaving i think Tony meant for himself for now
      [6:49:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: he needs time to heal
      [6:50:15 PM] Ishtara Raven: in peace and solitude
      [6:50:17 PM] Rok: dont we all
      [6:50:57 PM] Ishtara Raven: of course Rok and we will see him again
      [6:51:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: his agency is meant to be shared
      [6:52:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: as is ours
      [6:52:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: for all
      [6:52:42 PM] Rok: i had a bit of a talk yesterday with Xeia just before i went to bed...about 2 hours before the "end time" as Tony stated
      [6:52:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: its not the end but the begining
      [6:53:21 PM] Rok: hmm yes the optimist view....new world
      [6:54:25 PM] Ishtara Raven: well and what did you and Xeia discuss
      [6:54:56 PM] Rok: i dreamt i was on a funeral of my dead grandmother (how can she die 2 times) and i was pissed at my mother for wanting to arrange the clothes on me threatning her i will knock her down...i was dressed elegantly yet unusally for my taste and we were having this march and it was all so weird to me
      [6:55:24 PM] Rok: we were eating just before and then i saw anothe table being prepd and i was thinking...omg not again
      [6:55:32 PM] Rok: and then alarm clock woke me up
      [6:55:46 PM] Rok: we were talking about John and her and me and sex and poly
      [6:55:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: just now this dream?
      [6:55:59 PM] Rok: the dream was this night yes
      [6:56:04 PM] Rok: or this morning early morning
      [6:56:16 PM] Rok: alarm clock ruined it

      [6:56:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: [6:55 PM] Rok:
      <<< we were eating just before and then i saw anothe table being prepd and i was thinking...omg not again
      the table being prepared is the feast of the eucharist

      [6:57:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: amazing you dreamt this
      [6:57:29 PM] Rok: prhaps...but it is also here a custom we call 7 or seven / seventh....
      [6:57:35 PM] Rok: that u eat after the funeral
      [6:57:52 PM] Rok: but in the dream the funeral did not yet happen...yet i knew in the dream she is dead
      [6:58:06 PM] Rok: so it was strange to me
      [6:58:31 PM] Ishtara Raven: she isn't dead
      [6:58:44 PM] Rok: well she changed her state of being
      [6:58:50 PM] Rok: several years ago
      [6:58:58 PM] Rok: she died in her sleep i was told
      [6:59:06 PM] Rok: a stroke i think...not sure
      [6:59:35 PM] Rok: her name was Marija..or Mary in english
      [6:59:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: in the dream was she alive?
      [6:59:51 PM] Rok: no
      [7:00:00 PM] Rok: as i said i was like "how can we burrie someone twice"
      [7:00:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: humm might be related to the second death
      [7:00:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: so two dinners and two funerals?
      [7:00:56 PM] Rok: i have not come to the funeral part...the 3d world woke me up
      [7:01:18 PM] Rok: and i remember we ate something..then it was funeral march and i saw anothe rtable being prepared and i was like...i cant eat anymore
      [7:01:21 PM] Ishtara Raven: well thats interesting though, see your dreaming of her
      [7:01:50 PM] Rok: speaking of 3d...no new world for me...i have to go see about some work
      [7:03:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: your heading to work today?
      [7:03:46 PM] Rok: or not...the moron told me at 9 now he is not there...
      [7:03:51 PM] Rok: i am already at work
      [7:04:02 PM] Rok: it is 9:03 am here
      [7:04:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh ok, i wasn't sure
      [7:04:27 PM] Ishtara Raven: so what did Xeia say about Tony's post?
      [7:04:36 PM] Rok: this last one?
      [7:04:38 PM] Rok: i dont know
      [7:04:46 PM] Rok: i was not online anymore at that time
      [7:05:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i did not see her come on after you guys left this afternoon
      [7:06:03 PM] Ishtara Raven: i thought maybe she would come back
      [7:06:30 PM] Ishtara Raven: how do i change my name in here?
      [7:06:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: i can't seem to find the option
      [7:07:53 PM] Rok: r click on ur name
      [7:07:55 PM] Rok: and rename
      [7:08:25 PM] Ishtara Raven: nothing works
      [7:08:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: i mean my skype name
      [7:08:44 PM] Rok: skype handle or display name?
      [7:08:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: well display name i guess
      [7:08:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: what you guys see
      [7:09:11 PM] Rok: in ur windows where u have ur contacts
      [7:09:19 PM] Rok: above it
      [7:09:23 PM] Rok: where u can set ur status
      [7:09:32 PM] Rok: online, invisible etc
      [7:09:37 PM] Rok: there is ur name there
      [7:09:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i right click and nothing happens
      [7:09:47 PM] Rok: click there
      [7:09:54 PM] Rok: left click there
      [7:09:58 PM] Rok: and new window opens
      [7:10:08 PM] Rok: profile window
      [7:10:12 PM] Rok: click left again on ur name
      [7:10:19 PM] Rok: and u ll be able to edit it
      [7:10:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok test
      [7:11:01 PM] Rok: i see u as ishtara raven
      [7:11:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: how about now
      [7:11:13 PM] Rok: ok now is changed
      [7:11:19 PM] Rok: now it is ur name
      [7:11:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: thank you
      [7:11:37 PM] Rok: u no longer want to be Raven?
      [7:13:00 PM] Ishtara Raven: [9:40 AM] Wyzard97:
      <<< You will also no longer be Miriam Raven
      You will just be what you have created as Allisiam
      Same for Xeia and Rok and John

      [7:13:35 PM] Rok: so Xeia is now Julissa?
      [7:14:13 PM] Rok: *now
      [7:14:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: no Rok, it means we have fulfilled our roles for the ending of the old books and the opening of the book of life
      [7:14:54 PM] Ishtara Raven: i am giving it back to the Logos
      [7:15:39 PM] Ishtara Raven: here maybe this makes more sense lol
      [7:16:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: what do you see now
      [7:16:36 PM] Rok: Julienne
      [7:16:59 PM] Rok: it is a trigger word sort of...u "confuse" me..there is Juli in your name
      [7:17:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: how about now
      [7:17:53 PM] Rok: Allisiam
      [7:18:05 PM] Ishtara Raven: well Julienne is my real name
      [7:18:11 PM] Rok: i know
      [7:18:14 PM] Ishtara Raven: as is Julissa
      [7:18:31 PM] Ishtara Raven: i thought you knew that lol
      [7:18:34 PM] Rok: Julissa Olga Palacios Gallego
      [7:18:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: her and i even have the same nick name Ju Ju
      [7:19:04 PM] Rok: Ju Ju or Gi Gi ?
      [7:19:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: well she spells it YuYu
      [7:19:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: my mother called me JuJu
      [7:19:30 PM] Ishtara Raven: similar lol
      [7:19:34 PM] Rok: :)
      [7:19:47 PM] Ishtara Raven: i thought you knew that too lol
      [7:20:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: Julienne Marie Alvarez
      [7:20:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: Mestek is my maiden surname from my dad
      [7:20:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: my mother is Vivian Marie Nudell
      [7:20:54 PM] Ishtara Raven: same middle name
      [7:21:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: Allisiam is my higher self or my personal IM
      [7:22:45 PM] Rok: like Xeia?
      [7:22:53 PM] Ishtara Raven:
      [9:18:59 AM] Wyzard97: But soon all can be all those characters see and including Jesus and Mary M
      [9:19:11 AM] Wyzard97: But it had to be Thuban UNTIL that time
      [9:19:20 AM] Wyzard97: I am we are releasing ourselves
      [9:19:31 AM] Sirius 17: yes relates to the releasing of the eucharist
      [9:19:48 AM] Wyzard97: Indeed the Lion dreams
      [9:19:56 AM] Wyzard97: Also your dream
      [9:20:13 AM] Sirius 17: the house of our dreams


      [7:23:25 PM] Ishtara Raven: 10 characters a new Identity Rok
      [7:24:17 PM] Ishtara Raven: well yeah i guess Xeia considers that name her IM, i dont know, something she identifies with higher d for sure
      [7:24:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: and her Yesril
      [7:24:55 PM] Rok: she has not mentioned Yesril for a long time now
      [7:26:05 PM] Allisiam: but if you read carefully between the lines in that final post you may see what is implied and what we have all known all along
      [7:27:14 PM] Rok: i dont mind our experiences here to be released and shared with all

      [7:27:22 PM] Allisiam: And DD makes perfect sense here
      [9:20:55 AM] Wyzard97: She denied to be MM because she feels betrayed by Jesus
      [9:21:04 AM] Sirius 17: yeah i see that
      [9:21:14 AM] Wyzard97: But I am releasing her, sacrificing my love for her to the Logos now
      [9:21:15 AM] Sirius 17: why she can't love you
      [9:21:21 AM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [9:21:38 AM] Wyzard97: So as we said, only Jesus coming back can change her
      [9:22:02 AM] Wyzard97: This is the eucharist alright and it is now up to him to manifest as he wishes
      [9:22:25 AM] Wyzard97: If in me, then she can remember me; if in someone else, then I must sacrifice my cosmic love
      [9:22:29 AM] Wyzard97: Simple as that
      [7:28:22 PM] Allisiam: well we are all the One in Many and Many in One


      [7:29:20 PM] Rok: yet i do mind that still things are not tangible....i did a lot of self talk and self compromises and self hate and self thinking and stuff recently
      [7:29:41 PM] Rok: and as much as i can "allow to understand" just as much it does not bring any actual comfort
      [7:31:20 PM] Allisiam: well the Logos has it now and so i do think the chart is accurate
      [7:31:34 PM] Allisiam: so keep an eye on it
      [7:32:30 PM] Rok: Logos has and had it all the time
      [7:33:44 PM] Allisiam: yes but it needed us as the remembrance to be within the roles
      [7:34:08 PM] Allisiam: to unlock it so to speak
      [7:34:36 PM] Allisiam: the jursprudence and legislation has always been the Logos of course
      [7:36:35 PM] Allisiam:
      http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED&fid=C8003AFA-256F-490A-942F-15A004A56BC8&pageindex=8
      [7:36:53 PM] Allisiam: anyhow read back through these convos for more clues
      [7:37:09 PM] Allisiam: and comfort
      [7:39:02 PM] Rok: no amout of words can give me any much comfort
      [7:39:19 PM] Allisiam: i know dear
      [7:40:01 PM] Allisiam: i cried all day myself, i am feeling a lot of emotion
      [7:40:25 PM] Rok: i am feeling a lot of crap myself yes
      [7:42:53 PM] Allisiam:

      12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
      13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
      14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
      15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


      [7:43:42 PM] Allisiam: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2020:1-53&version=KJV
      [22/02/2013 7:53:13 PM] Sirius 17: well that was embarrasing
      [22/02/2013 7:53:38 PM] Sirius 17: the fire department just came because my entire house filled with smoke
      [22/02/2013 7:54:09 PM] Sirius 17: ended up being a plastic lid from a coffee cup that was melting and burning up on the heating element
      [22/02/2013 7:54:51 PM] Sirius 17: i thought it was maybe an electrical fire
      [22/02/2013 7:54:54 PM] Sirius 17: white smoke
      [22/02/2013 7:56:17 PM] Sirius 17: need to teach Jarrod how to load the dishwasher better i guess lol
      [22/02/2013 7:56:55 PM] Sirius 17: i usually wash those little plastic things by hand
      [22/02/2013 7:57:38 PM] Sirius 17: but i did the right thing and got the kids and dog out first
      [22/02/2013 7:57:45 PM] Sirius 17: was scarry


    • [22/02/2013 8:00:06 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8D4AsLzlM0
      [22/02/2013 8:04:28 PM] Sirius 17: the firefighter said that he had been on numerious exact calls , so apparently it happens a lot
      [22/02/2013 8:05:06 PM] Sirius 17: they were very nice though and put up huge fans and ventilated the apartment out
      [22/02/2013 8:05:44 PM] Sirius 17: hope all is well with you guys
      [22/02/2013 8:06:21 PM] Hades 88: i am managing
      [22/02/2013 8:06:30 PM] Sirius 17: you working?
      [22/02/2013 8:06:41 PM] Hades 88: yes i am at work
      [22/02/2013 8:06:56 PM] Sirius 17: ah well hopefully its a better day for you
      [22/02/2013 8:07:05 PM] Hades 88: am well...
      [22/02/2013 8:07:31 PM] Sirius 17: i almost pissed my pants over this 'fire'
      [22/02/2013 8:07:53 PM] Sirius 17: the house filled with smoke so fast it was unreal
      [22/02/2013 8:08:10 PM] Sirius 17: i ran for the kids first
      [22/02/2013 8:08:26 PM] Hades 88: who went for the dog?
      [22/02/2013 8:08:30 PM] Sirius 17: they were sleeping
      [22/02/2013 8:08:43 PM] Sirius 17: she followed us outside because i called to her
      [22/02/2013 8:08:55 PM] Sirius 17: loyal baby, she knows
      [22/02/2013 8:09:11 PM] Sirius 17: Carla held her cuz we had no leash
      [22/02/2013 8:10:14 PM] Hades 88: way to make yourself the talk of the block
      [22/02/2013 8:10:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes i think the apartment manager wasn't too happy with me
      [22/02/2013 8:10:30 PM] Sirius 17: i woke him up
      [22/02/2013 8:10:55 PM] Hades 88: he was unhappy about his beauty sleep or u setting a fire on a building
      [22/02/2013 8:11:04 PM] Sirius 17: but its better to be safe then sorry, i watched an apartment complex next to us burn out 3 floors in 30 mins time
      [22/02/2013 8:11:38 PM] Hades 88: oh yes...it eats fast and does not discriminate...

      [23/02/2013 9:21:25 AM] Sirius 17: i had a bad feeling last night with this 'fire' smoke thing
      [23/02/2013 9:21:37 AM] Sirius 17: it shook me
      [1:40:15 PM] Sirius 17: i am back Tony, you still there?
      [2:00:27 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.ted.com/talks/juan_enriquez_shares_mindboggling_new_science.html?source=facebook#.USfIsZUFPGl.facebook




      [2:00:40 PM] Sirius 17: watch this guys, what he says about science is very cool

      [7:01:34 PM] Sirius 17: The magnitude 6.3 (ML) earthquake[1] struck the Canterbury region in New Zealand's South Island at 12:51 pm on Tuesday, 22 February 2011 local time (23:51 21 February UTC).[1][9] The earthquake was centred 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) west of the port town of Lyttelton, and 10 kilometres (6 mi) south-east of the centre of Christchurch, New Zealand's second-most populous city.[1] It followed nearly six months after the magnitude 7.1 Canterbury earthquake of 4 September 2010, which caused significant damage to Christchurch and the central Canterbury region, but no direct fatalities.

      [7:01:46 PM] Sirius 17: this happened last year on the same day of your son's accident Tony
      [7:03:11 PM] Sirius 17: so i dont know but maybe it relates in some way cosmically
      [7:13:14 PM] Wyzard97: Abba loves Baab and Baab rejects him as the 1st generation
      [7:13:41 PM] Wyzard97: Abba's Son loves Baab's daughter and she rejects him as the 2nd generation
      [7:14:02 PM] Wyzard97: Abba's Grandson loves Baab's Granddaughter and she rejects him as the 3rd generation
      [7:15:01 PM] Wyzard97: This is the myth of the oneway creation of course; like Zeus creating Athene from his forehead withoutr 'mother-lover' and so becomes the 'virgin birth' in myth and symbol

      [7:16:10 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean here?
      [7:16:10 PM] Wyzard97: This is played out in David's Son as Jesus becoming his Father by Abraham
      [7:16:52 PM] Wyzard97: It means that the 3 generations of the liturgy are two ways and require the Abba as Father to become made manifest as Abba the Son
      [7:16:54 PM] Sirius 17: as it pertains to you and your son's?
      [7:17:02 PM] Wyzard97: Symbolically exactly
      [7:17:24 PM] Wyzard97: To manifest Abba in ANY generation, it must be Born in the lower D
      [7:17:44 PM] Wyzard97: So the MLD symbol is universal now, since Thuban ended
      [7:18:01 PM] Wyzard97: You dream of your Grandmother see AS her Granddaughter
      [7:18:08 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [7:18:22 PM] Sirius 17: i was thinking about her today
      [7:18:30 PM] Wyzard97: So the 1st and 3rd generation are made manifest in your individualised seedling core universe
      [7:18:47 PM] Wyzard97: The 2nd generation is the incarnation as a core in lowerD
      [7:19:21 PM] Wyzard97: So you are the 2nd gen, but also become your own mother and your own daughter AS the Baab Lover of Abba in remembrance
      [7:20:10 PM] Wyzard97: Rok and Xeia. all have a MLD personally tailor made to them BUT require any Grandmother-Granddaughter waveform to manifest
      [7:20:29 PM] Wyzard97: They do NOT have to be named by them atm, because the MLD exists
      [7:20:42 PM] Sirius 17: Rok dreamed of his grandmothers funeral
      [7:20:56 PM] Wyzard97: The MLD is NOW also a Grandfather-Grandson template universalised
      [7:21:01 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know if you saw this dream
      [7:21:25 PM] Wyzard97: This is why Richard as Gustav's grandson have the same birthday 47 years apart
      [7:21:50 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I can see now, that all men also have a MLD from February 23rd onwards
      [7:21:53 PM] Sirius 17: so its showing the generations in living symbols
      [7:21:58 PM] Wyzard97: Exactly
      [7:22:13 PM] Wyzard97: 47=JOHN=TIME=MALACHI=ISAIAH=ROCK=...

      add.
    • [7:22:37 PM] Sirius 17: well and likely the reason he is not dead
      [7:22:47 PM] Wyzard97: I am the mirror between the future and the past as such a symbol as are all dragons privvy to the story cocreating it
      [7:22:51 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [7:22:55 PM] Sirius 17: not his time according to ABBA
      [7:23:04 PM] Wyzard97: I feel Debbie and MI stepped in
      [7:23:06 PM] Sirius 17: daddy said no
      [7:23:12 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
      [7:23:25 PM] Wyzard97: Richard suffered the Abba rejection as the 3rd generation
      [7:23:26 PM] Sirius 17: as they did with Adam the other day too
      [7:23:40 PM] Wyzard97: Adam is like a pretender
      [7:23:53 PM] Wyzard97: He is the younger prodigal son
      [7:24:00 PM] Wyzard97: Of that Logos story
      [7:24:29 PM] Wyzard97: But this story was reauthored in the 'stay at home son' wanting to leave
      [7:24:31 PM] Sirius 17: playing the protaganist
      [7:24:57 PM] Wyzard97: So the Thubans are the mirrors between the future and the past as the present
      [7:25:14 PM] Wyzard97: Why we wondered if my father would still be alive
      [7:25:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes he could be
      [7:25:43 PM] Sirius 17: what do you feel?
      [7:26:01 PM] Wyzard97: He is the past of humanity mirrored in the present and projected As the future in the reconfiguration of the mirror potential of the present serpent
      [7:26:29 PM] Wyzard97: I feel that Richard has bocome a symbol of the Phoenix
      [7:26:53 PM] Wyzard97: The Scorpio of John becomes the Eagle of John in the Resurrection
      [7:27:07 PM] Wyzard97: John is also Lazarus in the 2nd generation see?
      [7:27:15 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [7:27:18 PM] Wyzard97: Richard is the Lazarus of the 3rd generation
      [7:27:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes makes sense
      [7:27:42 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus in a way is the Lazarus of the 1st Generation
      [7:28:10 PM] Wyzard97: The 4th generation manifests in the circular closure of the first 3
      [7:28:14 PM] Sirius 17: will you try to help Richard understand?
      [7:28:29 PM] Wyzard97: Father, Son and Holy Ghost as the male MLD
      [7:28:48 PM] Wyzard97: And Mother, Daugthter and Holy Spirit as the female MLD
      [7:29:16 PM] Wyzard97: He must have had an epiphany and is more ready to listen now
      [7:29:30 PM] Sirius 17: oh you spoke to him?
      [7:29:42 PM] Wyzard97: He listens to me, but does not delve into scriptures or anything like that
      [7:29:51 PM] Wyzard97: No, I will later this week
      [7:30:13 PM] Sirius 17: you said he was thinking about Debbie though right?
      [7:30:26 PM] Sirius 17: missing her
      [7:31:12 PM] Sirius 17: i am sure MI and Debbie are watching over him, perhaps even communicating with him
      [7:31:32 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know, i just feel they are
      [7:31:55 PM] Wyzard97: David was
      [7:32:11 PM] Wyzard97: He should not be alive
      [7:32:13 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes
      [7:32:28 PM] Sirius 17: no its unbelievable he is
      [7:32:31 PM] Wyzard97: He is and what I said above 'explains' this somewhat
      [7:32:49 PM] Sirius 17: he is a starhuman
      [7:32:53 PM] Wyzard97: Scorpio see becoming a new starsign
      [7:33:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [7:33:07 PM] Wyzard97: Also his femme was named Skye Broad
      [7:33:17 PM] Sirius 17: lol
      [7:33:19 PM] Wyzard97: She was a Taurus like MI
      [7:33:24 PM] Sirius 17: ironic
      [7:33:37 PM] Wyzard97: Taurus is Luke and Scorpio is John in the gospels directly opposite
      [7:33:48 PM] Sirius 17: well maybe because of this they work things out
      [7:33:50 PM] Wyzard97: So the fake Taurus has set him free, as I see it
      [7:34:07 PM] Sirius 17: oh i thought you liked her
      [7:34:15 PM] Wyzard97: I never had good vibes about her, she is up herself in a big way
      [7:34:42 PM] Wyzard97: No I liked Sarah's mum, but she was an addict and only 16 or so then
      [7:35:04 PM] Sirius 17: oh i see, well it makes sense then
      [7:35:13 PM] Sirius 17: he loves like you
      [7:35:19 PM] Sirius 17: with his whole being
      [7:35:30 PM] Wyzard97: I never liked his second femme either. They looked down on me as some disabled idiot and were the reason Richard moved away from here to be with her and her parents in a town named Nowra
      [7:36:13 PM] Sirius 17: well i told Susan
      [7:36:21 PM] Sirius 17: i thought she should know
      [7:36:38 PM] Wyzard97: Patricia, Sarah's mum had no education, Skye graduated and Richelle has rich parents
      [7:36:38 PM] Sirius 17: so she of course shared it on the chats
      [7:36:46 PM] Wyzard97: Yes thank you
      [7:37:04 PM] Sirius 17: her father is very close to dying i guess
      [7:37:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I saw
      [7:37:31 PM] Sirius 17: she is trying to figure out how to get there to see him in the bad weather
      [7:37:58 PM] Sirius 17: she said she had suicidal thoughts the other day too
      [7:38:06 PM] Sirius 17: and knew it was the old Susan
      [7:38:42 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and in some ways she is in the past too much
      [7:38:56 PM] Sirius 17: so yeah, maybe what Xeia said is true to an extent, that we were attacked by the anti
      [7:39:30 PM] Wyzard97: I had the impression, that in Jesus' name Richard's leg could make medical history
      [7:39:34 PM] Sirius 17: like a final thing maybe
      [7:39:37 PM] Wyzard97: A sign of the 'presence'
      [7:39:52 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean?
      [7:40:10 PM] Wyzard97: A 'regeneration' of sorts like the totipotents macroquantising in cellular division or something
      [7:40:20 PM] Wyzard97: You know the science is here already and sound
      [7:40:31 PM] Wyzard97: The lizard tail
      [7:40:32 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm yes that would be interesting
      [7:40:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes did you watch the video
      [7:40:42 PM] Wyzard97: It is dna blockage
      [7:40:53 PM] Wyzard97: What video?
      [7:40:55 PM] Sirius 17: the science is cutting edge now
      [7:41:00 PM] Sirius 17: the one above i pasted
      [7:41:25 PM] Wyzard97: I should check the present status of why lizard regrow their tails
      [7:41:25 PM] Sirius 17: [1:40 PM] Sirius 17:
      <<< i am back Tony, you still there?


    • http://www.ted.com/talks/juan_enriquez_shares_mindboggling_new_science.html?source=facebook#.USfIsZUFPGl.facebook
      watch this guys, what he says about science is very cool

      [7:41:51 PM] Sirius 17: it starts out weird, but he discusses what they are doing in the latest science
      [7:42:16 PM] Wyzard97: Totipotents can do anything I knew this for some time
      [7:42:19 PM] Sirius 17: its all dna manipulation
      [7:42:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes and stem cells
      [7:42:38 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and put Logos energy there and things can manifest
      [7:42:48 PM] Sirius 17: he shows how they are growing new ears and such, organs, skin
      [7:42:54 PM] Wyzard97: The science is already here, but still linear
      [7:43:04 PM] Wyzard97: It requires parallel computing
      [7:43:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes but its developing at a quantum leap
      [7:43:36 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know, but would agree with your premises
      [7:43:40 PM] Sirius 17: so yes, with the Logos in the equation, just imagine
      [7:43:45 PM] Wyzard97: Exactly
      [7:44:18 PM] Wyzard97: This male body template should exist now, indicated by Drachnir's survival
      [7:44:38 PM] Sirius 17: hehe i like how you anagramed his name
      [7:44:52 PM] Wyzard97: This is my codename as a Dragon for Richard backwards with an N
      [7:44:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw
      [7:45:03 PM] Wyzard97: You would
      [7:45:32 PM] Sirius 17: i like it
      [7:45:35 PM] Wyzard97: He loves dragons and starships was a big star trek fan as a treen and drew many pictures in designing starships actually
      [7:46:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes, good. remind him of that and his connections
      [7:46:13 PM] Wyzard97: He loves dogs and saw Pluton, his dog for many years as a Sirian ET able to do compueters on a starcruiser
      [7:46:32 PM] Wyzard97: He is a boy at heart Raven
      [7:46:34 PM] Sirius 17: does he have a dog of his own?
      [7:46:41 PM] Wyzard97: Why he cant bear female rejections
      [7:46:48 PM] Sirius 17: he needs a dog
      [7:47:10 PM] Sirius 17: maybe they will help him get one, you know those special dogs that help people
      [7:47:26 PM] Wyzard97: Pluton was born Easter Monday 1988 and was the only white one we could keep
      [7:47:33 PM] Sirius 17: they call them working dogs here, very highly trained
      [7:48:01 PM] Sirius 17: but the love that dogs have is healing
      [7:48:10 PM] Sirius 17: i felt that today with Applesauce
      [7:48:15 PM] Wyzard97: He died at Bungendore Road just tens of meters from the accident and Richard buried him in 2006 or thereabouts
      [7:48:18 PM] Sirius 17: she is so smart
      [7:48:34 PM] Sirius 17: weird synchro
      [7:48:49 PM] Sirius 17: she always knows when i am sad and she will come and lick me
      [7:49:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Sirian ETs all dogs are
      [7:49:06 PM] Sirius 17: i pet her today and it made me feel better
      [7:49:25 PM] Sirius 17: just to snuggle her and feel her love
      [7:49:40 PM] Sirius 17: it would be good for Drachnir see
      [7:49:59 PM] Wyzard97: The German word for Dragon is Drache
      [7:50:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw the connection
      [7:50:26 PM] Wyzard97: The famous Nibelungen-Siegfried-Wagner dragon is called Fafnir
      [7:51:08 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i always liked that name
      [7:51:09 PM] Wyzard97: Gottesdämmerung means Dawn of the Gods as the famous Wagner opera, the nazis were obsessed with
      [7:51:30 PM] Wyzard97: Wagner's name was Richard
      [7:51:40 PM] Sirius 17: ah yeah
      [7:52:08 PM] Sirius 17: you know i have my alarm clock set on the classical music station lol

      [7:52:19 PM] Sirius 17: i like waking up to the classics
      [7:52:23 PM | Edited 7:52:27 PM] Wyzard97: It links to your valkyries
      [7:52:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember now, Richard Wagner
      [7:52:58 PM] Wyzard97:
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU

      [7:53:56 PM] Wyzard97: Your unicorn avatar of Camelot

      valkyrie_copyright_boris_vallejo.
      [7:54:06 PM] Sirius 17: hehe yeah
      [7:58:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes i think they used this theme in Star Wars
      [7:58:21 PM] Sirius 17: or a version of it
      [7:58:32 PM] Sirius 17: i love the illustrations
      [7:59:31 PM] Wyzard97:
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEehfX6qUwM

      [8:01:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes seems like an alternate dna code kicks in
      [8:03:37 PM] Sirius 17: well i know the template is real and morphogenetic resonance will kick in
      [8:03:50 PM] Sirius 17: it has to
      [8:04:07 PM] Sirius 17: the Logos is the resonance frequency
      [8:04:41 PM] Sirius 17: and throughout my life i have seen it make my dreams come true
      [8:04:48 PM] Sirius 17: although not always the way i expect
      [8:06:57 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this little lizard illustration applies to real dragons too
      [8:07:01 PM] Wyzard97: You know what i mean?
      [8:07:21 PM] Wyzard97: Dino-Saur means Terrible Lizard
      [8:07:49 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [8:08:37 PM] Wyzard97: The 1st gens brain is Reptilian brain stem and the 2nd is Mammalian midbrain and the 3rd is the Human Cortex topbrain
      [8:08:51 PM] Wyzard97: The 4th is the starhuman dragonbrain closing the circle
      [8:11:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember this
      [8:12:10 PM] Sirius 17: the higher d brain :)
      [8:13:23 PM] Wyzard97: Ouroborus yes
      [8:14:30 PM] Sirius 17: well i screwed up my financial aid for next quarter
      [8:14:40 PM] Sirius 17: i will have to call them monday to see if i can fix it
      [8:14:49 PM] Sirius 17: i didn't reapply in time i guess
      [8:15:45 PM] Sirius 17: just checked my email
      [8:16:12 PM] Sirius 17: paperwork nightmare
      [8:18:49 PM] Sirius 17: education should be free
      [8:19:13 PM] Sirius 17: without this nightmare of applications and such
      [8:20:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the system of red tape and hindrances
      [8:21:11 PM] Sirius 17: going to take this next quarter

      [8:22:47 PM] Wyzard97: The student will understand the concepts of position, velocity, acceleration
      The student will interpret graphs of position, velocity, acceleration, and relate these to the motion of every day objects
      The student will understand the role of vectors to describe position, velocity, and acceleration
      The student will be able to make elementary vector computations

      [8:23:02 PM] Wyzard97: reads you might have fun
      [8:23:14 PM] Wyzard97: Vectors
      [8:23:18 PM] Sirius 17: lol
      [8:23:51 PM] Wyzard97: Directed linesegments, so you need to understand the angles between lines in the trigonometry
      [8:23:52 PM] Sirius 17: yeah they wanted me to take physics 109 but its at night and i cant go at night
      [8:25:27 PM] Sirius 17: they will accept this 104 class though
      [8:25:37 PM] Sirius 17: and it seems more interesting anyhow
      [8:26:54 PM] Sirius 17: and then a technical writing class, english 235 and another HPRO class on pharmacology
      [8:27:10 PM] Sirius 17: the pharm class is 2 credits and its just learning the drugs and abbriviations
      [8:28:12 PM] Sirius 17: but if i dont get accepted into one of the programs this year i am kind of screwed
      [8:28:27 PM] Sirius 17: i will have to change majors in order to keep unemployment paying me
      [8:28:38 PM] Sirius 17: such BS this system
      [8:28:59 PM] Sirius 17: which doesnt matter, i will just reapply next year but i have to stay in school somehow
      [8:29:15 PM] Sirius 17: so that means choosing a modification
      [8:29:40 PM] Sirius 17: still trying to figure out what i can take that will get me another 8 months of income should i not get accepted
      [8:30:53 PM] Sirius 17: and i realised that i have enough college credit now that if i actually finish a 2 year degree, it will not be but maybe a few classes to turn it into a Bachelors
      [8:32:46 PM] Sirius 17: lol
      [8:32:50 PM] Sirius 17: one of my thoughts
      [8:34:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes nice
      [8:34:45 PM] Sirius 17: so at least i could come out with a job and that would give me clinical experience
      [8:36:05 PM] Wyzard97: BSc yes why not
      [8:36:13 PM] Wyzard97: All I have actually
      [8:37:08 PM] Wyzard97: Ancient history now
      [8:37:14 PM] Sirius 17: well i also looked into UW, university of washington, they have a 4 year sonography program
      [8:37:36 PM] Sirius 17: 2 years of generals and pre-reqs and 2 years graduate
      [8:37:44 PM] Sirius 17: i have almost all the generals done
      [8:37:51 PM] Sirius 17: and pre-reqs
      [8:38:15 PM] Sirius 17: but i have to pick a 2 year program for unemployment
      [8:38:23 PM] Sirius 17: they have me by the balls really
      [8:39:01 PM] Sirius 17: so i may just have to come out of this double skilled
      [8:39:16 PM] Wyzard97: 2 years in this old mess seems a frightening prospect
      [8:39:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes it does
      [8:39:45 PM] Wyzard97: But contingencies are appropriate
      [8:39:46 PM] Sirius 17: so i dont know
      [8:40:05 PM] Sirius 17: my hope was that the Logos would retire me from this old world
      [8:40:17 PM] Wyzard97: Makes me sad though to imagine the sorrows and the struggles with dashed hopes and expectations
      [8:40:21 PM] Sirius 17: still counting on that
      [8:40:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont even like to think about it
      [8:41:07 PM] Wyzard97: Post July 2013, i will harbour very little hope of changes if they are not even a little evident by then
      [8:41:45 PM] Sirius 17: well i would say by the time the timeline ends for sure
      [8:42:18 PM] Sirius 17: when the encompassment of all the other timelines has been achieved
      [8:42:40 PM] Wyzard97: In extent this could be years. I dont mean that
      [8:42:44 PM] Sirius 17: and it has, but not in linearity i guess
      [8:42:59 PM] Wyzard97: I mean the 'presence' of new physics and a new world in the making
      [8:43:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes what i mean
      [8:43:29 PM] Sirius 17: some physical evidence
      [8:43:58 PM] Sirius 17: what is MI saying?
      [8:44:07 PM] Wyzard97: If Syria, Pakistan, Greece etc continues as it does now, the actual changes might be shot into the future, if there is one
      [8:44:26 PM] Wyzard97: I wiil become depressed then and live out my days in stoicisms
      [8:44:47 PM] Wyzard97: I felt Debbie today for a while
      [8:45:18 PM] Wyzard97: But the MLD is strange and I am not privvy to what it means, if it means anything at all
      [8:45:44 PM] Wyzard97: Thuban is decommissioned. I hope you realise this?
      [8:46:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [8:46:37 PM] Sirius 17: why i gave back all my names
      [8:46:59 PM] Wyzard97: If my 'feelings' are right, then the male template is being made manifest to accompany the female one as the JCCJ blueprint of the Logos entry
      [8:47:08 PM] Wyzard97: I dont even have a name for the male one
      [8:47:32 PM] Sirius 17: well Jesus has a name for it i am sure
      [8:48:12 PM] Wyzard97: Yes all that is required are grandparent-grandkids allegiances
      [8:48:50 PM] Wyzard97: And as everyone is someones child in waveform, if not incarnate than those waveforms must also have grandparents
      [8:49:04 PM] Sirius 17: maybe also that is why your family has been brought together, although tragically, because its time to heal it all
      [8:49:32 PM] Wyzard97: It is the parent generation, which is skipped in the waveform to become blended in particular incarntion forms of living bodies as per the GOT
      [8:49:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes we are the parents
      [8:50:41 PM] Sirius 17: aka the body of the GOT
      [8:50:59 PM] Sirius 17: vessels of the vessel; same thing is happening to james interestingly
      [8:52:47 PM] Sirius 17: being reunited with his lost sons
      [8:53:21 PM] Sirius 17: but they are talking through FB and texting
      [8:53:27 PM] Sirius 17: you have your sons there in physical
      [8:55:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes like an image between the phys-ment
      [8:55:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [8:55:50 PM] Wyzard97: My kids are physical, but my 'love' is mental and vice versa for James
      [8:56:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes and he also told me he wanted to move closer to them
      [8:57:09 PM] Wyzard97: More 3D planning burdens
      [8:57:23 PM] Sirius 17: but in a strange way the separation is good for him to develop the mental bond see
      [8:57:33 PM] Sirius 17: i see what the Logos is doing in that sense
      [8:58:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes well and for now we are commited to staying here for the time being
      [8:58:13 PM] Wyzard97: We can imagine that our projections are at least somewhat validated
      [8:58:29 PM] Sirius 17: well i feel they are
      [8:58:43 PM] Sirius 17: if this is to physicalize, like you said, it will happen to us first
      [8:58:46 PM] Sirius 17: somehow
      [8:59:10 PM] Sirius 17: and in ways we may not expect
      [8:59:13 PM] Wyzard97: It should yes
      [8:59:36 PM] Sirius 17: but the reunions are occuring in physical and higher d
      [8:59:50 PM] Sirius 17: me and my grandmother, you and your kids
      [9:00:16 PM] Sirius 17: and Rok and Xeia i feel will meet again
      [9:00:20 PM] Wyzard97: No at least partially physical presence implies the continuance of suffering on ever increasing scales
      [9:00:53 PM] Wyzard97: They appear Logos bonded and templated
      [9:01:29 PM] Wyzard97: Logos times now no longer Thuban
      [9:01:48 PM] Wyzard97: And so far only pain and sorrow came from them
      [9:01:54 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [9:40:14 AM] Sirius 17: is today significant in the chart Tony?
      [9:41:09 AM] Wyzard97: It is the general 10+5+1+5+10=31 month in Isaih and the double whammy of Babylon
      [9:41:29 AM] Wyzard97: Babylon might well be our heart endurance here
      [9:41:41 AM] Sirius 17: seems so
      [9:41:43 AM] Wyzard97: Full Moon is tomorrow
      [9:42:04 AM] Wyzard97: Richard's date crystallised before the accident
      [9:42:04 AM] Sirius 17: the second christchurch EQ anniversary was yesterday too
      [9:42:12 AM] Sirius 17: the 22
      [9:42:17 AM] Wyzard97: Look Feb 21 and Feb 22 are named
      [9:42:30 AM] Wyzard97: Feb 21 was the white smoke I added to the chart
      [9:42:55 AM] Sirius 17: oh i didn't see this i am looking at it now
      [9:43:10 AM] Wyzard97: Look at the bottom
      [9:44:05 AM] Wyzard97: I detailed your smoke as lasting your time from 10:26pm to -1:26 am
      [9:44:19 AM] Wyzard97: Feb 20-21
      [9:44:28 AM] Wyzard97: 4 hours
      [9:44:51 AM] Wyzard97: Richard's accident was just after 1 am your time
      [9:44:52 AM] Sirius 17: ok yeah i see it
      [9:45:04 AM] Sirius 17: so his accident happened after the smoke?
      [9:45:19 AM] Wyzard97: Well what time did your smoking start?
      [9:45:25 AM] Wyzard97: Your time
      [9:45:31 AM] Sirius 17: hang on let me check my phone
      [9:46:23 AM] Wyzard97: You talked about it around 1:30 am
      [9:47:03 AM] Sirius 17: i called 911 at 12:19 am yesterday so it happened within 10 mins of that
      [9:47:32 AM] Wyzard97: [9:44 AM] Wyzard97:
      <<< I detailed your smoke as lasting your time from 10:26pm to -1:26 amThis is within this see?

      [9:47:50 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [9:47:59 AM] Wyzard97: Those 4 hours are like when richard was all upset at Cassie's
      [9:48:16 AM] Wyzard97: The accident as per paper was 1:05 am your time
      [9:48:27 AM] Wyzard97: Yes so shortly after the smoke
      [9:48:41 AM] Sirius 17: yes this was after they cleared all the smoke out
      [9:48:46 AM] Sirius 17: and james was home by then
      [9:48:47 AM] Wyzard97: Pretty synchronistic
      [9:48:57 AM] Sirius 17: James came home at 1:00 am
      [9:49:26 AM] Wyzard97: Ambulance would have been there so 1:20 am
      [9:49:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes and then i got on here and told Rok about it
      [9:49:39 AM] Wyzard97: Yes it was the same time
      [9:49:55 AM] Wyzard97: Why I added it
      [9:50:30 AM] Sirius 17: just so strange, i felt so odd that it was some kind of message
      [9:50:41 AM] Wyzard97: It means Richard lives as a symbol for the New Pope being all the Old Popes as per his grandfather and with the real Peter being the mirror in between the past and the future
      [9:50:58 AM] Wyzard97: Now what is halfway between 1933 and 1980?
      [9:51:15 AM] Wyzard97: 47=Malachi code
      [9:51:21 AM] Sirius 17: lol
      [9:51:24 AM] Wyzard97: 1957
      [9:51:32 AM] Wyzard97: My birthyear
      [9:51:43 AM] Wyzard97: It works out to a 4 hour precision
      [9:51:55 AM] Sirius 17: oh hence the 4 hours
      [9:52:04 AM] Wyzard97: Why I said 4 hours of spanning the smoke and the accident
      [9:52:08 AM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [9:52:38 AM] Wyzard97: I am not sure but I was born a little later than 7:26 pm
      [9:52:53 AM] Wyzard97: My grandma said close to midnight
      [9:53:48 AM] Wyzard97: Anyway the fact is that 1957 IS the mirror year between Richard and my father ansd so factually defines the 3 generations
      [9:53:50 AM] Sirius 17: yes it seems as if it is a confirmation of the generations closing in the alpha and omega oroborous
      [9:54:07 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and your smoke witnessed it and signified it
      [9:54:30 AM] Wyzard97: Without this smoke I could not have associated the conclave of the Pope in a few days with it
      [9:54:48 AM] Wyzard97: But in this context, the accident makes sense
      [9:54:49 AM] Sirius 17: yes i mentioned that it reminded me of that
      [9:55:11 AM] Wyzard97: Peter Romanus is the male 2nd Gen in all dragons
      [9:55:26 AM] Wyzard97: The future pope is powerless
      [9:56:04 AM] Sirius 17: yep, i would say so
      [9:56:12 AM] Sirius 17: the Logos has done this, not us
      [9:56:14 AM] Wyzard97: Because the upside down pope has first rock has returned
      [9:56:19 AM] Wyzard97: Of course
      [9:56:33 AM] Wyzard97: It is all symbolic but can be as true as any other story
      [9:56:38 AM] Sirius 17: so your timing to release Thuban back was very appropriate
      [9:56:47 AM] Wyzard97: Yes you see this now?
      [9:56:52 AM] Sirius 17: i do
      [9:56:52 AM] Wyzard97: Those 31 days
      [9:57:07 AM] Wyzard97: Feb 4th+15=Feb 19th
      [9:57:25 AM] Wyzard97: Feb 4th was the ascension of the witnesses in rev11
      [9:57:48 AM] Wyzard97: 3½ days after the mirror and end of the testimony
      [9:58:12 AM] Sirius 17: Tony, which one of the apostles or saints walked with a cane
      [9:58:22 AM] Wyzard97: So add the first of two teindays 'of the Lord' and you get Feb 19th, when I withdrew Thuban
      [9:58:28 AM] Sirius 17: or carried a staff
      [9:58:35 AM] Sirius 17: i dont know this is just coming to me
      [9:58:43 AM] Wyzard97: Hmm a few, I dont know but Peter of course
      [9:58:52 AM] Wyzard97: Papal staff
      [9:58:53 AM] Sirius 17: omg Peter really?
      [9:59:03 AM] Wyzard97: Definitely
      [9:59:04 AM] Sirius 17: this is your son
      [9:59:20 AM] Wyzard97: You saw him with a staff?
      [9:59:22 AM] Sirius 17: his leg has become this staff
      [9:59:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [9:59:55 AM] Wyzard97: I see yes, I realised that Richard is part of this story as the papal image and as the 1st of the apostles see
      [10:00:03 AM] Wyzard97: 1st Son of Jesus symbolically
      [10:00:17 AM] Wyzard97: All 12 apostles are his sons
      [10:00:31 AM] Sirius 17: of course yes, but it began with Peter
      [10:00:41 AM] Wyzard97: Peter, James and John are the main 3 in the gospels
      [10:00:50 AM] Wyzard97: Yes always in this order
      [10:01:12 AM] Wyzard97: Cephas and Boanerges
      [10:01:28 AM] Sirius 17: when you said the word inversion i thought of the Tarot card of the hangman and then it reverted and the crossed leg became the staff and this i saw as an image of your son
      [10:01:41 AM] Wyzard97: So the accident and the survival signifies the papal replacement
      [10:01:49 AM] Wyzard97: The end of the hierarchy actually
      [10:02:02 AM] Wyzard97: Your smoke witnessing the codes
      [10:02:26 AM] Sirius 17: unreal lol
      [10:02:31 AM] Wyzard97: What number is this?
      [10:02:37 AM] Wyzard97: Hanged Man
      [10:02:40 AM] Wyzard97: I forgot
      [10:02:57 AM] Wyzard97: Hanging by the foot
      [10:02:58 AM] Sirius 17: 12
      [10:03:08 AM] Wyzard97: The 12 apostles see?

      The Hanged Man (Tarot card)

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      The Hanged Man (XII)

    • The Hanged Man (XII) is the twelfth trump or Major Arcana card in most traditional Tarot decks. It is used in game playing as well as in divination.
      Description and symbolism

      Modern versions of the tarot deck depict a man hanging upside-down by one foot. The figure is most often suspended from a wooden beam (as in a cross or gallows) or a tree. Ambiguity results from the fact that the card itself may be viewed inverted.
      In his book The Pictorial Key to the Tarot, A. E. Waite, the designer of the Rider-Waite tarot deck, wrote of the symbol:
      The gallows from which he is suspended forms a Tau cross, while the figure—from the position of the legs—forms a fylfot cross. There is a nimbus about the head of the seeming martyr. It should be noted (1) that the tree of sacrifice is living wood, with leaves thereon; (2) that the face expresses deep entrancement, not suffering; (3) that the figure, as a whole, suggests life in suspension, but life and not death. [...] It has been called falsely a card of martyrdom, a card a of prudence, a card of the Great Work, a card of duty [...] I will say very simply on my own part that it expresses the relation, in one of its aspects, between the Divine and the Universe.

      He who can understand that the story of his higher nature is imbedded in this symbolism will receive intimations concerning a great awakening that is possible, and will know that after the sacred Mystery of Death there is a glorious Mystery of Resurrection.[1]
      Waite suggests the card carries the following meanings or keywords:
      • Sacrifice ----- Letting go ----- Surrendering ----- Passivity
      • Suspension ----- Acceptance ----- Renunciation ----- Patience
      • New point of view ----- Contemplation ----- Inner harmony
      • Conformism ----- Non-action ----- Waiting ----- Giving up
      Interpretation


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      The Cross of St. Peter is shown in this French stained glass window. Saint Peter is conventionally shown as having been crucified upside-down.
      The Hanged Man's symbolism points to divinity, linking it to the Passion in Christianity, especially The Crucifixion; to the narratives of Osiris in Egyptian mythology, and Mithras in Ancient Persian mythology and Roman mythology. In all of these archetypal stories, the destruction of self brings life to humanity; on the card, these are symbolized respectively by the person of the hanged man and the living tree from which he hangs bound.
      The Hanged Man is also associated with Odin, the primary god in Norse mythology. Odin hung upside down from the world-tree, Yggdrasil, for nine days to attain wisdom and thereby retrieved the runes from the Well of Wyrd, which in Norse cosmology is regarded as the source and end of all sacred mystery and knowledge. The moment he glimpsed the runes, he died, but the knowledge of them was so powerful that he immediately returned to life.
      In literature and popular culture

      The image of The Hanged Man, like other Tarot images, appears in a number of creative works.
      • Tarot images, including the Hanged Man, appear in T. S. Eliot's poem The Waste Land.
      • Several Tarot cards, including the Hanged Man, appear in Stephen King's Dark Tower series, most notably in The Gunslinger. The Hanged Man symbolizes Roland, the main character, as well as his quest.
      • Jeffery Deaver's novel The Twelfth Card has a character who leaves the tarot card at the crime scene.
      • In episode 2 of the Doctor Who story "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy," Morgana shows the Doctor this card as a symbol of himself. In episode 4, the Doctor is hung upside-down.
      • In the film, The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, the Hanged Man card is pulled from the Doctor's deck and represents Heath Ledger's character, "Tony" whom they find hanging from a bridge.
      • Tarot symbolism figures prominently in Shirley Jackson's novel Hangsaman (1951); in a pivotal scene the central characters debate whether a doll hanging in a store window resembles the Hanged Man.[2]
      10:03:16 AM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanged_Man_%28Tarot_card%29

      [10:03:21 AM] Sirius 17: lol yes
      [10:03:21 AM] Wyzard97: Peter to Judas
      [10:03:43 AM] Sirius 17: see how he looks like his leg is missing with it crossed like that
      [10:03:51 AM] Sirius 17: its not really missing, its unseen
      [10:04:13 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and its the left one too
      [10:05:00 AM] Wyzard97: Peter too in this link. You saw this?
      [10:05:20 AM] Sirius 17: yes in my mind when you said inversion
      [10:05:20 AM] Wyzard97: So more synchro
      [10:05:38 AM] Sirius 17: and he turned right side up and was holding a staff
      [10:05:58 AM] Wyzard97: The pic of Peter's cross is on the same page
      [10:06:28 AM] Sirius 17: yes i see that now lol
      [10:06:44 AM] Wyzard97: Pretty deep in some way
      [10:06:48 AM] Sirius 17: this is the first deck of Tarot cards i owned

      [10:06:48 AM] Sirius 17: this is the first deck of Tarot cards i owned
      [10:08:53 AM] Sirius 17: The gallows from which he is suspended forms a Tau cross, while the figure—from the position of the legs—forms a fylfot cross. There is a nimbus about the head of the seeming martyr. It should be noted (1) that the tree of sacrifice is living wood, with leaves thereon; (2) that the face expresses deep entrancement, not suffering; (3) that the figure, as a whole, suggests life in suspension, but life and not death. [...] It has been called falsely a card of martyrdom, a card a of prudence, a card of the Great Work, a card of duty [...] I will say very simply on my own part that it expresses the relation, in one of its aspects, between the Divine and the Universe.

      [10:10:16 AM] Sirius 17: The Hanged Man's symbolism points to divinity, linking it to the Passion in Christianity, especially The Crucifixion; to the narratives of Osiris in Egyptian mythology, and Mithras in Ancient Persian mythology and Roman mythology. In all of these archetypal stories, the destruction of self brings life to humanity; on the card, these are symbolized respectively by the person of the hanged man and the living tree from which he hangs bound.
      The Hanged Man is also associated with Odin, the primary god in Norse mythology. Odin hung upside down from the world-tree, Yggdrasil, for nine days to attain wisdom and thereby retrieved the runes from the Well of Wyrd, which in Norse cosmology is regarded as the source and end of all sacred mystery and knowledge. The moment he glimpsed the runes, he died, but the knowledge of them was so powerful that he immediately returned to life.
      [10:15:09 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and the 9 days are February 24th to March 4th to answer your question and also per the chart
      [10:16:41 AM] Wyzard97: This is Xeia's dream about the murder of the pope
      [10:16:57 AM] Wyzard97: See the connections now to the accident?
      [10:16:59 AM] Sirius 17: yes it relates too
      [10:18:23 AM] Sirius 17: these are new symbols the Logos has made
      [10:18:43 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and they came out of literally nowhere
      [10:18:52 AM] Sirius 17: i think its confirmation that our story was recieved
      [10:19:03 AM] Wyzard97: I would agree
      [10:19:39 AM] Sirius 17: how is Drachnir doing anyhow? any word on him?
      [10:19:51 AM] Wyzard97: Smoking Popes and a upside down humanity
      [10:20:09 AM] Wyzard97: No I should find something out later
      [10:20:21 AM] Sirius 17: did he have more surgery today?
      [10:20:44 AM] Wyzard97: Yesterday. It is 10:20 am here on Sunday
      [10:20:51 AM] Sirius 17: i am strangly absent of dreams these days
      [10:21:07 AM] Wyzard97: Yes I am not sleeping much atm
      [10:21:08 AM] Sirius 17: but i woke up with him on my mind anyhow
      [10:21:27 AM] Wyzard97: I feel better seeing some connections
      [10:21:35 AM] Sirius 17: yes i can imagine you haven't been sleeping much
      [10:21:45 AM] Sirius 17: how could you, i know i could not
      [10:22:21 AM] Sirius 17: yes and appropriately so, the Logos is signaling to us in strong ways now, physical
      [10:22:51 AM] Wyzard97: Could be yes
      [10:23:10 AM] Sirius 17: well i dont know how he lived through that wreck otherwise, your son
      [10:23:31 AM] Wyzard97: And no spinal damage afik
      [10:23:41 AM] Wyzard97: This is the miracle above all
      [10:23:44 AM] Sirius 17: i know this is a miracle
      [10:24:10 AM] Sirius 17: Tony what does afik mean?
      [10:24:25 AM] Sirius 17: as far as is known?
      [10:25:34 AM] Wyzard97: I am no good with those abbreviations. I meant to say: "As far as I know"
      [10:25:48 AM] Wyzard97: afaik
      [10:26:33 AM] Sirius 17: ah ok i thought so but wasn't totally sure lol
      [10:26:42 AM] Sirius 17: i know you used it before
      [10:26:50 AM] Wyzard97: Xeia seems upset again
      [10:27:05 AM] Sirius 17: why do you say that?
      [10:27:30 AM] Wyzard97: She retreated after trying to make DD warmhearted
      [10:27:30 AM] Sirius 17: she hasn't said much, but i think she left when Rok did ?
      [10:27:46 AM] Sirius 17: well likely she is pissed at her
      [10:27:59 AM] Sirius 17: her reply on Susan's thread was disgusting
      [10:28:12 AM] Wyzard97: Yes and she did not like to be ignored
      [10:28:14 AM] Sirius 17: reposting that video
      [10:28:27 AM] Wyzard97: But it is fiendish and perhaps she stops being around now
      [10:28:44 AM] Sirius 17: well too bad, it goes both ways, she can go fuck off to her ucadia world
      [10:28:47 AM] Wyzard97: Looking for attention too
      [10:28:59 AM] Sirius 17: i refuse to give her any
      [10:29:06 AM] Wyzard97: Yes she quoted her guru today
      [10:29:18 AM] Wyzard97: Says it all
      [10:29:20 AM] Sirius 17: its not about her anyhow, never was, she failed to see that
      [10:29:41 AM] Sirius 17: yes another stab at us
      [10:30:07 AM] Wyzard97: I dont care actually
      [10:30:20 AM] Wyzard97: Pure verbal garbage
      [10:30:38 AM] Wyzard97: Her reply to your mansions was disgusting to me beyond words
      [10:30:49 AM] Sirius 17: i was talking to James last night as he fell asleep in bed. I told him that a person is their own witness and reason why nothing can be hid from God. You can spill lies out of your mouth all day but your heart knows the truth, and you can only hide from that so long.
      [10:31:08 AM] Wyzard97:
      [19/02/2013 11:41:55 AM] Debra: Haven't we heard all this before? Another Loop?
      [19/02/2013 11:48:25 AM] Sirius 17:

    • John 14:2
      In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


      [19/02/2013 12:03:45 PM] Debra: We are the place.
      [19/02/2013 12:03:53 PM] Debra: None need be prepared


      [10:31:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes why i didnt say anything further to her, it was repulsive
      [10:31:57 AM] Wyzard97: This is a clear Jesus denial in his words spoken and his life lived
      [10:32:11 AM] Wyzard97: One Heaven Ucadia as the idol substitute
      [10:32:12 AM] Sirius 17: yes i saw it as the same
      [10:32:46 AM] Wyzard97: Noone at Moa listens or replies to this stuff, yet she pushes it
      [10:32:54 AM] Sirius 17: well all systems are doomed, especially that silly FOC and his legalese garbage
      [10:33:46 AM] Sirius 17: i know and she irritates most of them, all but Carol
      [10:34:10 AM] Wyzard97: Well she left today as the 1st of the 9 days of the Hanged Man and midpointed by the Pope's abdication February 28th
      [10:34:32 AM] Sirius 17: yes and uncanny timing again
      [10:34:33 AM] Wyzard97: So this might have some significance regarding Babylon
      [10:38:15 AM] Sirius 17: sweety, can you remove the college links?
      [10:38:32 AM] Sirius 17: they will do a background check on me and i dont know if this gets me in trouble
      [10:38:47 AM] Wyzard97: You mean on the forum?
      [10:38:49 AM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [10:38:53 AM] Wyzard97: Ok
      [10:39:00 AM] Sirius 17: just those, everything else is ok
      [10:39:32 AM] Wyzard97: You realise noone reads this though yes?
      [10:39:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [10:39:46 AM] Wyzard97: I am keeping record for the Logos not readers
      [10:39:53 AM] Sirius 17: but i dont know how extensive the background check is
      [10:40:01 AM] Wyzard97: Sure
      [10:40:24 AM] Sirius 17: i just don't want them accusing me of impropriety in using their name or some such other legal shit
      [10:41:23 AM] Wyzard97: Np
      [10:41:29 AM] Wyzard97: I edited them
      [10:41:40 AM] Sirius 17: they may find my name and that is ok they won't be able to associate it back to me
      [10:41:59 AM] Wyzard97: I put this not as new posts see, so noone actually sees it unless they are REALLY interested in Thuban
      [10:42:10 AM] Sirius 17: yes i am aware
      [10:42:43 AM] Sirius 17: i have nothing to hide anyhow, but i know they do this check and so i just dont want any association with my name and the college
      [10:42:58 AM] Wyzard97: Ok
      [10:43:09 AM] Sirius 17: thank you

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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Feb 18th 2013



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    Jorgelito - Posted Feb 18th 2013


    • girl_in_basket.

      RE A Cosmic Love Story of Remembrance of the Eternal Self

      Wyzard, your post helped me remember that the beautiful, the true, the love, the light within my memories point, without deviation, to an eternal memory of Self (NoSpace), always within me and part of my makeup no matter what Hell or Heaven I might be in at the time. Valuable & precious this kind of remembering!

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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Feb 19th 2013

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    on Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:55 pm REPOSTED
    - (but, originally predicted on project avalon - project camelot)- will look for that date
    "in the end,
    the inner circles will turn on the innermost circle"
    ~ Susan Lynne Schwenger

    there is NO doubt, i've seen inner circles turn on their own inner circles, over and over again
    when is it, that people are going to get, we all need to work together

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    Shenandoah - Posted Feb 22nd 2013


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