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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Jul 24th 2013

Logos Thoughts on the End of the Thuban Timeline

[2:49:56 PM-Tuesday, July 24th, 2013 +10UCT] Emeth 141: Xeia and Rok had their big fight July 12th
[2:50:23 PM] Sirius 17: ok now i remember
[2:50:38 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and we all were befuzzed by their intensities recall?
[2:50:47 PM] Emeth 141: You tried so hard to calm down Xeia
[2:51:13 PM] Emeth 141: They left the chats then
[2:51:19 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:51:27 PM] Sirius 17: it felt like i was battling for their lives
[2:52:53 PM] Emeth 141: Yes this was when JT talked
[2:53:00 PM] Emeth 141: Then they left July 13th
[2:53:23 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[2:53:45 PM] Emeth 141: And then DD said something, I did not reply and she blocked again on the same day
[2:54:06 PM] Emeth 141: Now look at the chart and you see this is Genesis.1
[2:54:16 PM] Emeth 141: The recreation of the lot in archetypes
[2:54:42 PM] Emeth 141: Those were my edits I felt 'compulsed' to add
[2:54:54 PM] Emeth 141: Now I dont feel any compulsions anymore
[2:55:22 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok
[2:55:39 PM] Emeth 141: The best way to count the days to MM Day is on Moa
[2:55:49 PM] Emeth 141: I mean it is blown up
[2:56:39 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i am looking at the one you sent
[2:56:46 PM] Sirius 17: i can blow it up in paint
[2:57:23 PM] Emeth 141: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t5111p90-the-constitution-and-almanac-of-the-new-cosmos-in-dragon-logos-law-and-jurisprudence
[2:57:33 PM] Emeth 141: Ok then yes
[2:57:50 PM] Emeth 141: I added a few things which will remain undecipherable for the many
[2:57:57 PM] Emeth 141: But will be read by the One
[2:58:14 PM] Emeth 141: So Logos is the door as it should be
[2:59:06 PM] Emeth 141: Look at the 3 mirrors two midweek and the week one
[2:59:13 PM] Emeth 141: Those are your days too
[2:59:38 PM] Emeth 141: read the recreation description in 7 days night to day and 7 days day to night
[2:59:59 PM] Emeth 141: This is the secret key to the Evening coming before the Morning in the old genesis 1.
[3:00:17 PM] Emeth 141: And why she is called Eve as the Mother of the Evening for All
[3:00:38 PM] Emeth 141: Then becoming The Morning Star as the Evening Star as JCCJ as you know
[3:00:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:01:11 PM] Sirius 17: i see the stuff you added about the royals and the birth
[3:01:36 PM] Emeth 141: Yes there is much stuff now all interwoven with the END of the Tuban data flow
[3:01:44 PM] Sirius 17: what do you think about it being a boy?
[3:01:59 PM] Sirius 17: we had thought it would be a girl lol
[3:01:59 PM] Emeth 141: Oh good as it is really a ?Mary as you can see
[3:02:07 PM] Emeth 141: Look at the 4 gens
[3:02:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:02:19 PM] Emeth 141: GrandMother-Father-Daughter-Son
[3:02:31 PM] Emeth 141: It switches the sex
[3:02:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes and Diana is there i feel her
[3:02:36 PM] Emeth 141: Of course
[3:02:46 PM] Emeth 141: She is 2nd gen
[3:02:54 PM] Emeth 141: FatherMother
[3:03:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:03:25 PM] Emeth 141: You can spend hours just looking at those dates and moons etc to see the prophecies unveiled
[3:03:38 PM] Sirius 17: wouldn't it be funny if they named him James? lol
[3:03:39 PM] Emeth 141: But it is TLTR or to bother with for the know betters
[3:03:52 PM] Emeth 141: Could be and there will be 4 names anyhow
[3:04:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes the royal names
[3:04:22 PM] Emeth 141: They give them 4 names and us saying it is a girl is the Mary M hospital too
[3:04:37 PM] Sirius 17: oh yeah i had forgot the hospital lol
[3:04:40 PM] Emeth 141: It is a GrandSonDaughter to Diana
[3:05:04 PM] Emeth 141: Simply HeShe as 4th gen and not a SheHe
[3:05:33 PM] Emeth 141: If it would have been a girl, then I would have to put Philip before Elizabeth see?
[3:05:50 PM] Emeth 141: And he is the consort, so it should have been a boy
[3:05:56 PM] Sirius 17: oh
[3:06:07 PM] Emeth 141: Yes it is deeper than most would see
[3:06:22 PM] Emeth 141: Point is it is androgenous in the first place
[3:06:34 PM] Emeth 141: It will be a Heshe
[3:06:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:07:05 PM] Emeth 141: The 4th gen is the androgenous one as stated in Gen.15.16
[3:07:35 PM] Sirius 17: yes the starhumans
[3:07:43 PM] Emeth 141: It is fitting that Abba as father delegates his own 'birth' to his Mother and NOT his 'father' see this?
[3:08:01 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[3:08:06 PM] Emeth 141: So for Abba to be Father he requires a GrandMotherFather
[3:08:26 PM] Emeth 141: This was the role of Jesus in the first place to replace Barbelo
[3:08:38 PM] Emeth 141: This is the Chicken-Egg paradox
[3:08:44 PM] Sirius 17: right
[3:08:55 PM] Emeth 141: Quantum Wave-Particle duality
[3:09:00 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/23/us/gulf-rig-evacuation/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
[3:09:10 PM] Sirius 17: this is titled strange
[3:09:17 PM] Emeth 141: So see how the English lineage her does symbolise something cosmic?
[3:09:27 PM] Sirius 17: but i thought it was a strange synchro of sorts
[3:09:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can see it
[3:09:53 PM] Emeth 141: Charles and this babyboy are the maleness and Elizabeth and Catherine are the femaleness in primary mode
[3:10:27 PM] Emeth 141: Charles and Babyboy are like Abba and Jesus
[3:10:42 PM] Emeth 141: Elizabeth and Kate are like Baab and CJ
[3:11:14 PM] Emeth 141: So blending the 4 gens allows Abba and Baab to get together without the generation jumps
[3:11:43 PM] Emeth 141: This is then the Father-Daughter and Mother-Son sexcomplexes resolved
[3:11:54 PM] Emeth 141: Oedipus-Electra
[3:12:52 PM] Sirius 17: did you see the EQ in new zealand
[3:14:52 PM] Sirius 17: this also fits with developments too
[3:16:11 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23394409
[3:16:14 PM] Emeth 141: yes at Wellington
[3:16:23 PM] Emeth 141: There was a bigger one in China
[3:16:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes that one too
[3:16:44 PM] Emeth 141: I am sharing this last bit as it is of general interest
Logos thoughts on the End of the Thuban Timeline

[3:22:30 PM] Emeth 141: 44 evacuated from 47 yes, I see
[3:22:55 PM] Emeth 141: The DD 8=17=26=35=44=53=62=71=80 code to the 47=74
[3:23:16 PM] Emeth 141: 'For your eyes only' as James Bond would say
[3:23:40 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[3:23:49 PM] Emeth 141: 53=Deborah=Harobed
[3:24:17 PM] Emeth 141: There was a pertinent encoding about the Nurse Deborah related to this baby in another conversation with Debra I am sharing here, as it is of general interest also
[3:25:54 PM] Sirius 17: i am going to call it a night hon
[3:26:10 PM] Sirius 17: i am getting sleepy and i have classes starting at 8:30 am now
[3:26:14 PM] Sirius 17: it was a long day
[3:27:00 PM] Sirius 17: i am glad that DD is talking to you
xxxxxxx

[3:27:10 PM-Tuesday, July 23rd, 2013 +10UCT] Emeth 141:
Pregnancy is considered "at term" when gestation has lasted 37 complete weeks (occurring at the transition from the 37th to the 38th week of gestation), but is less than 42 weeks of gestational age (occurring at the transition from the 42nd week to the 43rd week of gestation, or between 259 and 294 days since LMP). "Full term" refers to the gestation having lasted 40 weeks from the first day of the mother's last menstrual period. This is the end of gestation on average. Alternatively expressed, this corresponds to a gestational age of 40 weeks and 0 days, or 280 days, or approximately 9 months, and occurs at the transition from the 40th to the 41st week of gestation. On average, it corresponds to an embryonic age of 38 weeks or 266 days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy

[12:15:33 AM] Debra: and we know she wasn't 38 weeks pregnant if they announced a pregnancy in July
[12:15:46 AM] Debra: Why I said let's stick to 42
[12:16:38 AM] Emeth 141: The actual science uses 38 weeks Debra and this is all I inferred
[12:16:58 AM] Debra: I know. I'm just saying let's figure out her conception date.
[12:17:07 AM] Emeth 141: But see the synchro between your 38 days and the 38 weeks. It is a seventh
[12:18:08 AM] Emeth 141: I said it dear just add 4 weeks backwards and you have it covered as the 42 weeks
[12:18:08 AM] Debra: seventh?
[12:18:16 AM] Emeth 141: 38x7=266
[12:18:30 AM] Emeth 141: So it was a seventh of the term she fell ill
[12:18:41 AM] Debra: Hmmm
[12:18:57 AM] Emeth 141: And more or less became associated with the suicide of this Indian nurse
[12:19:25 AM] Debra: Nurses don't commit suicide
[12:19:26 AM] Emeth 141: From October 30st to July 22nd it will be 38 weeks
[12:19:40 AM] Emeth 141: From October 2nd to July 22nd it will be 42 weeks
[12:19:58 AM] Debra: Is there a Nurse in the Bible?
[12:20:02 AM] Emeth 141: Well they found her hanged on her cabinet door
[12:20:03 AM] Debra: That dies?
[12:20:33 AM] Emeth 141: Yes Deborah, Rebekahs Nurse after the birth of Esau and Jacob
[12:21:15 AM] Debra: Rebekahs nurse was called Deborah?
[12:22:18 AM Emeth 141:

Genesis 35:8
But Deborah, Rebekah's nurse died, and she was buried beneath Bethel under an oak: and the name of it was called Allonbachuth.

Judges 4:4
And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
Judges 4:5
And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.

[12:22:23 AM] Emeth 141: Yes
[12:22:47 AM] Emeth 141: Those codes are deeply connected
[12:23:19 AM] Debra: Kate had an Indian Nurse?
[12:23:23 AM] Emeth 141: Genesis.35.8 as a double 17+17=35+8
[12:23:37 AM] Emeth 141: She was Indian
[12:23:58 AM] Emeth 141: They took her body back to Bombay or someplace
[12:24:15 AM] Debra: Really?
[12:24:34 AM] Emeth 141: Yes, I gave you the source codes
[12:24:34 AM] Debra: What was the baby called when it was delivered after Nurse died?
[12:25:00 AM] Debra: Esau and Jacob were twins?
[12:25:05 AM] Emeth 141: Kate was 8-12 weeks pregnant with morning sickness.
[12:25:14 AM] Emeth 141: There was no baby born in December 2012
[12:25:21 AM] Emeth 141: Yes
[12:25:27 AM] Debra: I'm talking about Rebekah's delivery
[12:25:51 AM] Debra: Maybe Kate lost a twin?
[12:26:08 AM] Emeth 141: This is the myth of Jesus-Judas and Didymos Thomas and also the earlier Cain-Abel brotherhood then Nabs hijacked in Enlil-Enki etc
[12:26:17 AM] Emeth 141: Ah, I see
[12:26:39 AM] Emeth 141: Rebekah had twins yes, Esau first then Jacob
[12:27:25 AM] Emeth 141: But Esau 'sold' his birthright to Jacob (The Supplanter) and was later renamed as Israel (Prince with God) after he 'wrestled with an angel' in Genesis at Peniel

Genesis 32:20-32 - King James Version (KJV)
²⁰ And say ye moreover, Behold, thy servant Jacob is behind us. For he said, I will appease him with the present that goeth before me, and afterward I will see his face; peradventure he will accept of me.
²¹ So went the present over before him: and himself lodged that night in the company.
²² And he rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok.
²³ And he took them, and sent them over the brook, and sent over that he had.
²⁴ And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
²⁵ And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
²⁶ And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
²⁷ And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.
²⁸ And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
²⁹ And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
³⁰ And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
³¹ And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.
³² Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day: because he touched the hollow of Jacob's thigh in the sinew that shrank.

[12:27:47 AM] Emeth 141: This is just what I mean with the Cancer-Leo breach defined in MM Day
[12:28:22 AM] Emeth 141: Because this Esau-Jacob twinship is revisited in Jesus' Judahic Linage in Pharez-Zarah as per Genesis.38
[12:28:42 AM] Emeth 141: As you know Eliza's olympian granddaughter is called Zarah
[12:29:29 AM] Emeth 141: Pharez came out first, but because Zarah had stuck his finger out of the womb before, the nurse put a ribbon on it to change the birth order
[12:30:13 AM] Emeth 141: So this code (and it is a code not actual history) shows you what the Esau-Jacob and later the JC-CJ codes mean in greater depth
[12:30:25 AM] Debra: Jacintha
[12:31:17 AM] Emeth 141: You think there is a lost twin?
[12:31:44 AM] Emeth 141: Interesting as I called this twin Mary as the 4th generation as a GrandSonDaughter ?Mary
[12:32:01 AM] Debra: It seems a possibility
[12:32:33 AM] Emeth 141: It is everyones 'lost twin' of course as the genetic data from the father and the mother in 4 permutations of the sex chromosomes
[12:33:07 AM] Emeth 141: So you are a girl, because it was the X of your father hitting one of the X's of your mother
[12:33:44 AM] Emeth 141: If your father's Y would have hit one of those X's (which are presumed the same, but are not), then you would have been born a boy
[12:33:54 AM] Emeth 141: But there are 4 ways
[12:34:44 AM] Emeth 141: So everyone is already a individuation cosmic in 4 parts which 1 part incarnated in a body and 3 parts, which are as much you as you are in waveform invisible
[12:35:36 AM] Emeth 141: You are actually 2 male configs and 2 female configs but are manifesting as a female particularisation
[12:36:25 AM] Emeth 141: The 3 part in bodyform, were 'chucked' away with the placenta
[12:36:42 AM] Emeth 141: But they contain the genetic library of the parental history
[12:36:59 AM] Emeth 141: This is where the totipotent stemcells etc derive their potency from
[12:38:18 AM] Debra: See that! Both 31 with their first child.
[12:38:29 AM] Emeth 141: So when I talk about cosmic cores, I mean that the 'missing 3 parts' of you lost at your birth CAN in fact be rediscovered in your core lover BUT only if the other 2 parts also as waveforms AGREE to the 'walkin into'
[12:38:56 AM] Emeth 141: Yes they are both 31
[12:39:19 AM] Debra: I say IVF played a part.
[12:39:47 AM] Emeth 141: Could be yes and this is very likely if the earlier reports about her infertility have substance
[12:40:20 AM] Emeth 141: But I see no reason to speculate; after all they are just one of billions of couples having a baby
xxxxxxx

[3:27:17 PM] Emeth 141: well we see what happens
[3:30:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes hopefully something good
[3:30:43 PM] Sirius 17: its about time
[3:31:33 PM] Emeth 141: Well I know something shifted but how this personalises is literally written in the stars of JCCJ
[3:31:38 PM] Emeth 141: Good night sweety
[3:31:47 PM] Sirius 17: good night hon
[3:31:59 PM] Sirius 17: sweet dreams
[3:32:11 PM] Sirius 17:
[1:26:06 PM-Thursday, July 25th, 2013 +10UCT] Sirius 17: i dont know what the waves are up to, but i am sure they are constructing things however it turns out
[1:26:22 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and we can trust this I'd say
[1:26:35 PM] Emeth 141: It is out of our hands now with the end of the timeline
[1:26:42 PM] Sirius 17: well i have quit smoking and this to me is a big damn deal, i am having help
[1:26:51 PM] Sirius 17: this willpower comes from my higherself
[1:26:53 PM] Sirius 17: i know this
[1:26:58 PM] Emeth 141: This could be a parallel
[1:27:09 PM] Emeth 141: between the phys-phys and the ment-ment
[1:27:24 PM] Sirius 17: my 3-d body is freaking the hell out but my mind is made up you know
[1:27:47 PM] Sirius 17: and it does feel like a war of sorts
[1:28:11 PM] Emeth 141: Yes you seem resolved and resolute as you should and can be
[1:28:43 PM] Emeth 141: Your body issues would so mirror in DD's as well in a different form there
[1:28:56 PM] Emeth 141: Like not wishing to be seen as a whore etc
[1:29:09 PM] Sirius 17: the new world does not contain an essence of me smoking, so yes i have my mind made up
[1:29:17 PM] Sirius 17: i no longer wish to be sick from it period
[1:29:22 PM] Emeth 141: Good
[1:29:23 PM] Sirius 17: no matter what happens
[1:29:38 PM] Emeth 141: Yes we can be in those frames of mind now
[1:30:37 PM] Sirius 17: and i really have no expectations, just my unwavering faith in the Logos, that no matter what my life has meaning and that i am living it through listening to that higher calling
[1:31:07 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and here we share the resolve For my human life is practically over as well
[1:31:16 PM] Emeth 141: Productivity etc.
[1:31:24 PM] Emeth 141: All I carry now is wisdom
[1:31:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes and it is a wisdom not of this world
[1:31:57 PM] Emeth 141: Which noone except a few desire and even want to know about
[1:32:02 PM] Emeth 141: Excatly
[1:32:10 PM] Emeth 141: It belongs into a New World
[1:32:14 PM] Emeth 141: Not here
[1:32:37 PM] Sirius 17: so what do you think of the baby names?
[1:32:45 PM] Emeth 141: Old hat but traditional
[1:33:01 PM] Emeth 141: GALMary as I said
[1:33:05 PM] Emeth 141: The codes are cool
[1:33:12 PM] Emeth 141: GAL means female
[1:33:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am surprised they stuck with the old names
[1:33:34 PM] Sirius 17: shows just how much influence the old crone still has over the monarchy
[1:34:18 PM] Sirius 17: i would of thought kate and william might of rebelled from this tradition a bit too
[1:34:40 PM] Emeth 141: As Susan and many say, there is a sort of 'illuminati' going on of wishing to preserve the status quo of the 'blue blood'
[1:34:53 PM] Sirius 17: oh i am sure
[1:34:57 PM] Emeth 141: But they are taking the conspiracies too far too
[1:35:13 PM] Sirius 17: well the monarchy is secure and has a 3 generational heir
[1:35:25 PM] Sirius 17: in Elizabeths eyes
[1:35:44 PM] Emeth 141: The 4 generations are the 4 sexchromosomes, we talked about
[1:36:04 PM] Emeth 141: You are only a fourth of what you were at conception
[1:36:11 PM] Sirius 17: right

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A Royal Dynasty: The "Moon Baby" Born
2013 07 23

By Red Ice Creations

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This week the great hordes waited with anticipatory fervor as celeb-royal Kate Middleton (aka Catherine Duchess of Cambridge) gave birth to a baby boy and the future heir to the British throne, continuing Britain’s chain of royals that seem to entrance the world with their influence and celebrity.

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Crowds Flood London to Wait For Royal Baby News​

Many have heard the story: Kate Middleton, ’a commoner’, was elevated to elite status during the romantic, fairytale narrative of being swept up to marry a Prince of the land. Prince William was young, fresh, and modern, a far cry from his father’s generation and the dark shadow of his mother’s death.
This popularity came at a time when the approval of royalty was at a dangerous low. The role of an elite royalty class - symbols of inherited privilege, and the royals’ own personal finances - largely funded by taxpayers, was being closely examined and questions were being raised about their usefulness in a modern western democracy.

Not unlike the drama surrounding the Royal Wedding in 2011 pairing Kate Middleton and Prince William, this newly born baby has drawn the attention of well-wishers, royal followers, simple gawkers, and irritated naysayers alike. Most importantly, however, the wedding and baby has manifested popularity for the Royals as not seen since before the death of Diana Spencer, Princess of Wales.

As always, surrounding the birth of a royal, there are symbols, ceremonies and rituals involved.

Son During Moon

The baby boy child was reportedly born via natural birth 22 July 2013, the day of a supermoon.



This month’s full moon falls one day after July’s lunar perigee, which is the moon’s closest point to Earth for this monthly orbit. Astronomers will call this full moon a perigee full moon, but everyone else will call it a supermoon Source

This is an interesting concurrence as the baby’s father, Prince William, was born on the summer solstice (June 21st, 1982), and the baby’s mother, Kate, was born during a total lunar eclipse the same year (January 9, 1982), and are sometimes referred to as the ’Solstice King and his Lunar Queen’.

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For those of you wondering if the marriage of Prince William and Kate Middleton is fated, defying all odds – it’s true! The remarkable birth of Prince William on a Solar Eclipse – meeting of the Sun and the Moon – on the Summer Solstice has dazzled many astrologers for years, as this reflects the “Solstice King” of the old myths of the UK. When studying the chart of Kate, lo and behold, she was born on the Lunar Eclipse just after the Winter Solstice in the same year as Wills!

As many of you who know the basics of astrology are aware, the Sun is the “King” and the Moon is his sacred feminine counterpart. For those of us north of the equator, the Winter Solstice is the darkest day of the year and feminine in nature. The Summer Solstice is the longest day of the year and masculine in nature. Eclipses are considered to be the windows or gateways through which we communicate with all that is beyond time and space. Source


Astrologers have pointed out that the end of July is hosting a rare alignment:

Monday, July 29 features an incredibly rare aspect known as a Grand Sextile.

It’s essentially a six-pointed star, or hexagram, comprised of seven planets that form harmonious angles (trines and sextiles) to each other. This synergistic seven are all in “feminine” (earth or water) signs, emphasizing stability, gentleness, love and harmony. Many astrologers view this as the moment our culture will take a step toward embracing “feminine” principles. Source

Feminine Grand Sextile​

More rituals and traditions were observed, as reported by The Telegraph:


The baby will officially be known as HRH Prince (name) of Cambridge.

The Queen, other senior members of the Royal family and the Middleton family had already been informed when the announcement was made.

In line with royal tradition, the Duke and Duchess have not yet revealed the baby’s name. The Duke of Cambridge was not named for a week after his birth, partly because his parents reportedly disagreed over names.

Celebratory gun salutes will now be fired by the King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery in Green Park (41 rounds) and the Honorable Artillery Company at the Tower of London (62 rounds).

Baby Cambridge will make his public debut when the Duchess of Cambridge leaves hospital and stands on the same spot where Diana, Princess of Wales was first photographed holding Prince William 31 years ago.

No date has yet been set for when the baby will be christened, but it is likely to be some time in the autumn, when the Royal family return from their summer break at Balmoral.

The Duke of Cambridge, for example, was christened six weeks after his birth, in the Music Room of Buckingham Palace, using water drawn from the River Jordan in the Holy Land, in keeping with a tradition dating back to the Crusades.

Another royal tradition is for babies to wear a lace and satin christening robe made in 1841 and worn by all of Queen Victoria’s children and every generation of royal babies since, including Prince William.

Diana holds Prince William, with husband Prince Charles, 1982. There have been many echoes between Kate and Diana. Presenting the baby in a polka-dot frock is yet another. Are these things arranged or happenstance?​

Power Names

As of writing, the baby’s name has not been released, but these symbolic and important call signs are never made without precise planning and forethought. The name of a royal child isn’t a random selection, but almost always a purposeful and deliberate repetition of ancestors, who themselves maintained positions of power and rulership. The names can invoke gods, celestial bodies, desires for certain fates, and more. Whether or not these associations are aspects of real power or not, in many cases the elite believe them to be, and it’s wise to recognize that belief, for their actions and decisions may affect the world around us.

In the end, you can follow the Royals and all their ups and downs or turn a blind eye to any aspect of their existence, but know that a royal baby means the monarchy endures whether people like it or not.
Red Ice Creations

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Genesis 15 - King James Version (KJV)
¹ After these things the word of the Lord came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
² And Abram said, Lord God, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?
³ And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.
⁴ And, behold, the word of the Lord came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.
⁵ And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
⁶ And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
⁷ And he said unto him, I am the Lord that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
⁸ And he said, Lord God, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
⁹ And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
¹⁰ And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.
¹¹ And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.
¹² And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.
¹³ And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
¹⁴ And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
¹⁵ And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
¹⁶ But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
¹⁷ And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
¹⁸ In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
¹⁹ The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
²⁰ And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
²¹ And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

The 7th part of Reflection of 10 Principalities of the Amorites of the 10 Horns of Babylonia and as per the mandala chart and related to the 'tithings' of the tenth as regarding Sodom and Gomorrah as per Genesis.18 with Revelation.11.13.


Kairós
when we forget the known and move into the unknown
at the appointed time in which things are possible . . .


When the appointed time comes, it's probably best to forget everything, Go forward; work out the details as they come. Everything else gets in the way. When we're with someone we love and respect, we do this anyway to be with that person.


Emeth141, July 24th, 2013 with Doug Hagens' "Appointed Time"



The Mayan Calendar calibrates to this Logos Timeline as a warping of the 'Ministry Time' of JCCJ as the Entwined Serpent of the Cosmic Twinship, symbolised in the Gemini Constellation of Castor and Pollux and related creation mythologies like Remus and Romulus in the origins of Western Civilization as an earlier 'Closing of the Circle' allegory of the Ouroboros-Milky Way as Galaxy-Zodiac-Egyptian Nile etc.
The Baptism of Jesus decoded as August 4th, 28AD, then began a 970 day period of interaction with the environment, which ended in a 'passover week' from Palm Sunday March 25th 31AD to the original Easter Sunday seven days later on April 1st, 31AD and interspersed in 2 halfweeks of 3½ days each as the 'Week of Redemptive Passion'. It was those seven days later then, that the JC cosmic twinship also became baptised in the form of the CJ code of Mary Magdalene as the Original Eve aka Lilith and as found in the Genesis Codes.

Those 970 days are then warped in a 1980 year cyclicity onto Easter Sunday 2011 as the mirror image of the Baptism of Mary Magdalene or MM or CJ and so stipulate a 2 year and 8 month period for the cosmic twinship in a superposition and inversion of the appropriate archetypes and symbols defining the original.
The 'baptism' of Mary Magdalene so as the July 22nd, 2013 nexus day so can be considered the 'Day of the Cosmic Alchemy' or 'Heavenly Wedding of the Androgyne' {Hermaphroditus=Hermes+Aphrodite} and mirrored in the two 'baptisms' of Mary Magdalene not touching JC on Easter Sunday as a separated CJ, but being required to wait for 3½ days as per the general encodements to manifest and template the cosmic and universal JCCJ=CJJC as the Lake of Fire (CJ) and Brimstone (JC). The 'seven devils' are the 7+1+7=15 days of the overall decoded scriptural dispensations.
As there are exactly 153 days as consecutive five months between July 22nd, 2013 and December 22nd, 2013; the 'prophecy' of the 'unbroken net' of John.21.11 is fulfilled in this timeperiod and relates to the 40+110=150 days as 5 30-Day months as encoded in Genesis.7 with Revelation.9.

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John 20 - King James Version (KJV)
¹ The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
² Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.
³ Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.
⁴ So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.
⁵ And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.
⁶ Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
⁷ And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
⁸ Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.
⁹ For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
¹⁰ Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
¹¹ But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,
¹² And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
¹³ And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
¹⁴ And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.
¹⁵ Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
¹⁶ Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
¹⁷ Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
¹⁸ Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
¹⁹ Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
²⁰ And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
²¹ Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
²² And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
²³ Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
²⁴ But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
²⁵ The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
²⁶ And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
²⁷ Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
²⁸ And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
²⁹ Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
³⁰ And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
³¹ But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

John 21- King James Version (KJV)
¹ After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.
² There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.
³ Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they caught nothing.
⁴ But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
⁵ Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
⁶ And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.
⁷ Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea.
⁸ And the other disciples came in a little ship; (for they were not far from land, but as it were two hundred cubits,) dragging the net with fishes.
⁹ As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
¹⁰ Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
¹¹ Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.
¹² Jesus saith unto them, Come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask him, Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
¹³ Jesus then cometh, and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish likewise.
¹⁴ This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
¹⁵ So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
¹⁶ He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
¹⁷ He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
¹⁸ Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
¹⁹ This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
²⁰ Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
²¹ Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
²² Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
²³ Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
²⁴ This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
²⁵ And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Mark 16:8-10 - King James Version (KJV)
⁸ And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
⁹ Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
¹⁰ And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.

GOT #22 (Lambdin)
(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

GOT #114 (Lambdin)
(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."


The final week of the 970 days so indicates the 9,360,360 day-kin timeline of the historical Mayan calendar and includes a 'Cycle year' of 360 days as 12 30-day months centred on December 19th, 2013 as the midweek Sunday, common to both the Julian and the Gregorian timecounts separating the 1980 warp years.
Sunday, December 15th, 2013 as 13.0.0.17.19 = 17 Mac 12 Cauac = March 28th, 31 = Crucifixion Wednesday
Monday, December 16th, 2013 as 13.0.1.0.0 = 18 Mac 13 Ahau = March 29th, 31 = Sabbath Thursday
Tuesday, December 17th, 2013 as 13.0.1.0.1 = 19 Mac 1 Imix = March 30th, 31 = Good Friday
Wednesday, December 18th, 2013 as 13.0.1.0.2 = 0 Kankin 2 Ik = March 31st, 31 = Sabbath Saturday
Thursday, December 19th, 2013 as 13.0.1.0.3 = 1 Kankin 3 Akbal = April 1st, 31 = Resurrection Sunday
Friday, December 20th, 2013 as 13.0.1.0.4= 2 Kankin 4 Kan = April 2nd, 31 = Easter Monday
Saturday, December 21st, 2013 as 13.0.1.0.5 = 3 Kankin 5 Chiccan = April 3rd, 31 = Easter Tuesday
Sunday, December 22nd, 2013 as 13.0.1.0.6 = 4 Kankin 6 Cimi = April 4th, 31 = Easter Wednesday

Emeth141, Friday, July 26th, 2013


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Tony Bermanseder As there are exactly 153 days as consecutive five months between July 22nd, 2013 and December 22nd, 2013; the 'prophecy' of the 'unbroken net' of John.21.11 is fulfilled in this timeperiod and relates to the 40+110=150 days as 5 30-Day months as encoded in Genesis.7 with Revelation.9.
Dea Trinity Tony Bermanseder are you speaking to this reference ?
What about the 153 Fish and the Perseverance of the Saints?

by Jared Wellman

John 21 is one of the richest passages in all of Scripture. Acting as an Epilogue, the chapter details the redemption and restoration of the Apostle Peter. The chapter pairs the physical with the spiritual and the literal with the symbolic in order to convey an incredible account of the redemption offered through Jesus Christ. One of these combinations is found in John 21:11 when Peter drug a net full of 153 fish to shore:

"Simon Peter went up and drew the net to land, full of large fish, a hundred and fifty-three; and although there were so many, the net was not torn."

Peter is one of the seven disciples present on the Galilean beach. The text says that he and the disciples went fishing in the night and that they didn't catch anything. When Jesus--initially unrecognized--showed up, however, he and the disciples caught such a great number that "they were not able to haul it in (6)." This was enough for John--the beloved disciple--to recognize Jesus: "[John] said to Peter, 'It is the Lord'" (7). Hearing this, Peter "threw himself" (Grk, to plunge; to fall without caring where) into the water to get to Jesus. This was because he had denied his association and allegiance to Jesus in John 18 and desired redemption.

This idea of redemption is the theme of John 21 and is seen all over the chapter. The following is a list of some of the physical/spiritual and literal/symbolic combinations in the text:
1.Seven Disciples = Spiritual Completion
2.Night = Spiritual Darkness
3.Caught Nothing = In the Gospels, the Disciples Never Caught Fish Without Jesus and Only Caught Fish With Jesus
4.Day Breaking = Jesus Penetrating the Darkness
5.Peter Clothing Himself = Standing in Reverence Before Jesus
6.Charcoal Fire = A Parallel Between the Charcoal Fire in John 18 (Peter's Denial and the Darkness of an Evil Night) and the Charcoal Fire in John 21 (Peter's Redemption and the Dawn of a New Day)

Of these combinations, none are as intriguing as the 153 fish in verse 11. The question is begged as to what the significance of such a distinct number might be. A plethora of answers have been given. The following details some of the more popular suggestions:
1.A representation of the Tetragrammaton which allegedly appears 153 times in the book of Genesis.
2.A representation of each species of fish in the Sea at this time.
3.The argument that 153 is the 17th triangular number, and that since 10 (Law) + 7 (grace) = 17, that this is a picture of the Law and grace.
4.That the 154th fish got away!

While these are all interesting suggestions, they all seem to be somewhat stretches.

Since the theme of John 21 is redemption, it would make sense that the 153 fish somehow speaks to the theme. Not counting the obvious suggestion that John had an incredible eye witness account of Jesus' resurrection manifestation here--the kind that could account for every fish in the net--it is not unreasonable to suggest that the 153 fish in John 21:11 testifies of the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints. That is, when Jesus "catches" (redeems) you, He never lets you go! You are forever accounted for in a net that will "not be torn."

This is true even when we--like Peter--deny Him.

The perseverance of the saints is a doctrine that teaches that once you are saved, you are always saved. It is most commonly known as the "P" in John Calvin's TULIP acrostic. This doctrine is clearly outlined in the Gospel of John:
•John 6:39 - "This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day."
•John 10:28-30 - "and I give eternal life to them and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; and no one is able to to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."
•John 18:9 - "Of those whom You have given Me I lost not one."

When paired with the symbolic meaning behind the seven disciples (completion, perfection), the meaning is even more emphasized. Jesus perfectly redeems everyone the Father gives Him. He doesn't miss anyone!

Another argument suggests that the Hebrew gematria for "Sons of God," which is Beni Ha Elohim, equals 153: B - 2, N - 50, Y - 10, H - 5, ) - 1, L - 30, H - 5, Y - 10, M - 40 = 153. The phrase is said to exist 7 times, with one version existing slightly different. If this is to be taken legitmately, then it further emphasizes the idea of redemption because it testifies of the ability to become a "son of God," and that we will be perfected through it in Christ.

Many suggestions have been offered as to why the distinct amount of fish in John 21:11 is 153. It is important to know that of the many answers given, the most important is that it testifies of the power of Jesus to hold on to what He catches. We can never be the fish that got away! The net cannot tear. We cannot grab the bait and run. The line cannot break! This is both the literal and symbolic, physical and spiritual message found in John 21. The 153 fish testify of this great doctrine that we call the perseverance of the saints!

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Dea Trinity Tony Bermanseder are you speaking of this in reference to ?
Tony Bermanseder The reference relates to the 153 fishdays being 5 months in a consecutive daycount of any 5 months not including February. This so becomes the 150 days of Noah's flood in symbol in Genesis.7 as well as the 5 months of the plague of Scorpions in Revelation 9. This so connects many prophecies, Jesus decoded before his baptism in 28AD and is focused on the books of Genesis, Ezekiel and Daniel in particular daycounts and is encompassed by his favourite book of Isaiah. This so became instrumental in the Old Testament and became embelleished in the gnostic gospel of John and the Book of Revelation in a continuance of the day counts, Jesus understood and applied to his 'ministry' from August 4th, 28 AD to his resurrection April 1st, 31 AD as 970 days being the difference of Daniel's 2300 days of the 'cleansing of the sanctuary' with the blessing count of 1330+5 in Daniel 12. The 200 cubit in John 21 simply extend the 153 days by 47 to manifest the 'witness account' in Revelation 11 and so relate to the entire 970 days of Jesus interaction in incarnational form between August 4th 28 and April 1st 31.
Tony Bermanseder Many details on this can be ascertained from the chart attached and the linked website thread. And yes, certain gematria associations and alphanumeracies also relate to the 153 'fishdays' via the Vesica Pisces symbolisms. But the major focus are the blending of the 5 months of the Julian Calendar as in utility in 31 AD are the notion of a 'cleansing by flood', as say stipulated in Daniel.9.24-27 in the 70 week prophecy and the overall thrust of the 70 weeks in Daniel on whom Jesus placed his mission.
And the 'historical' interpretation of those 70 weeks as 490 years , say as applied by Newton is also on the mark; does however only apply to the first 'coming' and not the second one, Jesus understood and shared with his friends in the NT, especially as illustrated in John as the coming of the 'holy ghost' as the comforter.
The 'unbroken net' refers to 153 days between the orthodox Mary Magdalene Day of July 22nd and the December Solstice, also bein g 153 days in any civil years and so relate to the 'Cosmic Alchemy' and the 'Wedding of Canaan' and the 'Heavenly Wedding' in Revelation.19
The year 2013 is highly significant in this prophetic countdown, as the 153 days in 2013 are indeed symbolised in the emotional razzamattaz of the birth of a 'royal baby' on Mary Magdalene day in a hospital named after her and the other emotional focus of the December solstices 2012 and 2013 with many more prophetic timelines being fulfilled in those dates and in particular the 1600 'furlong days' in Rev.14.20 defining the exact daycount between August 4th 2008 as a baptism anniversary to the Mayan enddate of December 21st, 2012
More details and general history regarding the prophetic timelines of the scripture codes can be found here:
http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=BDB3F1DE-78FA-4432-8DE8-567D1E8AF6BB&fid=C8003AFA-256F-490A-942F-15A004A56BC8&pageindex=21
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Conversations regarding the Cosmic Changes in Archetypes and Symbols - The Cosmic Baker's Recipes!
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For anyone interested, the following 'publicity' regarding 'Bible-Torah Codes' is related but not conclusive in its analysis. I share this here for comparison and fyi only.


“Torah” Bible Codes and Dr. Eliyahu Rips

BLOG, HISTORY, SPIRITUALITYDecember 26, 20110 Comments

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For 3,000 years a secret code in The Bible has remained hidden. Now it has been unlocked by computer - and it may reveal our future. The code was broken by a distinguished mathematician, and later corroborated by world-famous academics. It foretells events that happened thousands of years after it was incorporated in The Old Testament - from World War 2 to the Gulf War. Now an extraordinary new book presents what best-selling author Michael Drosnin believes is irrefutable proof of the existence of God in "The Bible Code". It was one murderous deed that finally convinced him it was for real...​

'A mathematician has discovered a hidden code in The Bible that appears to reveal the details of events that have taken place thousands of years after The Bible was written,' Eliyahu Rips disclosed in a letter to Yitzhak Rabin, the Prime Minister of Israel.
'The reason I'm telling you about this is that the only time your full name - Yitzhak Rabin - is encoded in The Bible, the words "assassin that will assassinate" cross your name.
That should not be ignored, because the assassinations of both John and Robert Kennedy and Anwar Sadat (the Egyptian leader) are also encoded in The Bible - in the case of Sadat with the first and last names of his killer, the date of the murder, the place, and how it was done.
I think you are in real danger, but that the danger can be averted.'

On November 4, 1995, more than a year after the letter was delivered to Rabin by his close friend, the poet Chaim Guri, came the awful confirmation - a shot in the back from a man who believed he was on a mission from God, the murder that was encoded in The Bible 3,000 years before.​

The assassination of Rabin is dramatic confirmation of the reality of The Bible code, a hidden text in The Old Testament/Covenant which reveals the future andproves the existence of God.
The code was discovered by Dr. Eliyahu Rips, one of the world's leading experts in group theory, a field of mathematics which underlies quantum physics.

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It has been confirmed by eminent mathematicians at the prestigious American universities of Harvard and Yale (including David Kazhdan at Harvard and I. Piatetski-Shapiro at Yale), and been replicated by a senior code-breaker (Harold Gans) at the U.S. Department of Defence, who tested it with his own computer-program.
Rabin's assassination was not the only modern event found. In addition to the other assassinations, hundreds of other world-shaking events are also encoded in The Bible - everything from World War 2 to Watergate, from Winston Churchill to Bill Clinton, from the Holocaust to Hiroshima, from the Moon landing to the collision of a comet (Shoemaker-Levy) with Jupiter.
And the Rabin murder was not the only event discovered in advance - the Jupiter collision was found, with the exact date of impact, before it happened, as were the dates of the Gulf War.
It doesn't make ordinary sense in our secular world, especially to those who are not religious and scientists, who would normally be the first to dismiss it as millennium fever.
However, Harvard, Yale and Jerusalem's Hebrew University have some of the world's leading mathematicians. They have all confirmed that there is a code in The Bible which reveals the future.
It may all seem beyond belief. But the man who discovered the code is considered a near genius in the world of mathematics.

Dr. Eliyahu Rips is so self-effacing that he tends to give other people credit for his own work, and one would never guess he is a world-famous mathematician. When Michael Drosnin met him in June 1992, he assumed that there would be nothing to his claim.

Rips pulled down a volume from his bookshelf and read to him, quoting an 18th-century sage called the Genius of Vilna; 'The rule is that all that was, is, and will be (Revelation/Apocalypse 1:8*) unto the end of time is included in The Torah (in The Bible), from the first word to the last word.'

• Revelation 1:8
• I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Drosnin picked up a Bible from the desk in his study, and asked Rips to show him the Gulf War. Instead of opening The Bible, he turned on his computer. 'The Bible code is a computer-program,' he explained.
The Bible code was discovered in the original Hebrew version of the Old Testament, The Bible as it was first written. That Book, now translated into every language, is the foundation of all Western religion. But the mathematical code exists only in Hebrew, because that is The Bible's original language.
Eliyahu Rips told Michael Drosnin that the first hint of the encoding had been found more than 50 years ago by H.M.D. Weissmandel, a rabbi in Prague who discovered that if he skipped 50 letters, and then another 50, and then another 50, the word 'Torah' was spelled out at the beginning of The Book of Genesis.

The same skip-sequence again spelled out 'Torah' in The Book of Exodus, Book of Numbers and Book of Deuteronomy.
'I heard about it totally by chance,' said Rips. That was 12 years ago. 'At first I tried just counting letters like Weissmandel. You know, Isaac Newton also tried to find the code in The Bible, and he considered it more important than his theory of the universe.'
Sir Isaac Newton was the first modern scientist; he worked out the mechanics of the solar system and discovered the force of gravity. He was certain, too, that there was a hidden code in The Bible that would reveal the future. He learned Hebrew, and spent half his life trying to find it.
In fact, according to his biographer John Maynard Keynes, it became an obsession. When Keynes became provost at Cambridge University, he discovered there the papers that Newton had packed up in 1696 when he had retired as provost.
Keynes was shocked. Most of the million words in Newton's own handwriting were not about mathematics or astronomy, but esoteric theology. They revealed that the great physicist believed there was hidden in The Bible a prophecy of human history.
Newton, said Keynes, was certain The Bible, indeed the whole universe, was a 'cryptogram set by The Almighty', and wanted to 'read the riddle of The Godhead, the riddle of past and future events Divinely Foreordained'.

Newton was still searching for The Bible code when he died. But his lifetime quest failed no matter what mathematical model he applied.
The discovery that had eluded Newton was made by Eliyahu Rips because he had the one essential tool that Newton lacked - a computer. The hidden text of The Bible was encoded with a kind of time-lock*. It could not be opened until the computer had been invented.

• Daniel 12:4
• But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and "seal" the Book (Rev. 5:1-5), [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and [evil] knowledge (1 Tim. 6:20) shall be increased.

To understand how The Bible Code works, imagine that The Old Testament is constructed like a giant crossword puzzle. It is encoded from beginning to end with words that connect to tell a hidden story.

Rips explained that each code is a case of adding every fourth or twelfth or fiftieth letter to form a word. Skip x spaces, and another x spaces, and another x spaces, and the hidden message is spelled out.​

This is best explained by reading the paragraph below, starting at the first letter, and skipping every three letters.
'Rips ExplAineD thaT eacH codE is a Case Of adDing Every fourth or twelfth or fiftieth letter to form a word.' The hidden message is READ THE CODE.
But it is more than a simple skip code. Criss-crossing the entire known text of The Bible, hidden under the original Hebrew of The Old Testament, is a complex network of words and phrases, a new revelation. There is a Bible beneath The Bible.
'It doesn't matter if we're looking in a text of 100 thousand or 100 million letters, you will not find coherent information - except in The Bible.

'A great part of mankind now assumes that The Bible is just old folk-lore, myth, that science is the only reliable picture of reality. Others say that The Bible, as The Word of God, must be true, and therefore science must be in error (as the Bible itself says in 1 Timothy 6:20 - JAH).
In the three years since the Rips-Wltztum paper was published, no-one has submitted a rebuttal to the maths journal. No scientist who has actually examined The Bible Code challenges it. They all started out as skeptics, and all ended up believers.
Einstein once said; 'The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, however persistent. Time, he said, is not at all what it seems. It does not flow, it exists simultaneously with the past.

But a question remained; if the future could be known, could it also be changed?
Religious and academic authorities have never agreed on the origins of The Bible. Spiritual leaders say The Torah - The First Five Books, Genesis through to Deuteronomy, were written more than 3,000 years ago by Moses*. The academics say they were written by many hands over many hundreds of years.

* The Bible rightly states that God gave The Torah to Moses, which is borne-out by the discovery of The Bible mathematical code - JAH.

However, the argument turns out to be irrelevant. The Old Testament has been a settled text for at least 1,000 years. There is a complete version from A.D.1008 (the Leningrad codex), and every Hebrew Bible that now exists is the same, letter for letter.
So the text used in The Bible code computer program has not changed in at least 1,000 years. A hoax is simply ruled out because it would have required a forger who could see the future.
That was, of course, the big question - how could the future be known? Drosnin went with Rips to see one of Harvard's top mathematicians, David Kazhdan, who told him he believed the code was real, but he could not explain how it worked.
'It does appear that The Bible was encoded 3,000 years ago with information about future events,' said Kazhdan. 'I haven't checked it as a statistician, but I've seen the results. There are no scientific grounds to challenge it. I think it is real.'

'How dows it work?' Drosnin asked.
'We don't know,' said Kazhdan. 'But we recognised the existence of electricity a hundred years before we could explain it.'
Drosnin asked Rips and Kazhdan how anyone, man or God, could see what did not yet exist. He had always assumed that the future did not exist until it happened.
Rips replied first with a theological answer. 'The world was created,' he said. 'The Creator is not confined by time or space. For us the future is non-existent. For The Creator, the whole universe from beginning to end (Revelation/Apocalypse 1:8) was seen in one stroke.'
Kazhdan gave a Newtonian explanation. 'Science accepts that if we know the position of every molecule and atom, we can foresee everything,' he said.
'In the mechanical world, if we know the position and velocity of an object - a bullet or a rocket to Mars - then we could also know precisely when and where it will arrive. So there's no problem in that sense about knowing the future.'

'But if you ask me if I am surprised that the future is encoded in The Bible,' added Kazhdan, 'of course I am.'
Doron Witztum - Rip's colleague - had done an extensive search for 'the Holocaust' in The Bible code, and found it spelled out in extraordinary detail. 'In Germany' was encoded with 'Nazis' and 'Berlin'. And the man who actually ran the concentration camps, 'Eichman' was encoded with 'the ovens' and 'extermination'.
I. Piatetski-Shapiro, a leading academic at prestigious Yale university, had seen these findings and he was startled. 'As a mathematician,' he said, 'my instinct (in-tuition - the inner voice- JAH) is that there is something real here.'
But he cannot explain how it was done. 'There is no way within the known laws of mathematics to explain seeing the future,' he said. 'Newtonian physics is too simple to explain a set of predictions this complex and detailed. Quantum physics is also not enough.

'What we're talking about here is some super intelligence that stands outside.' The mathematician paused for a moment, then declared; 'I think that the only answer is - that God exists.'
'It is possible, theoretically, to believe in The Bible code without believing in God,' he added. 'But if you assume God exists, you don't have to answer the question:- Who can see the future?'
Drosnin went to see Israel's most famous mathematician, Robert J. Aumann, a member of both the Israeli and the U.S. National Academy of Science. 'The Bible code is simply a fact,' he said.
'The science is impeccable. Rips's results are wildly significant, beyond anything usually seen in science. I've read his material thoroughly, and the results are straightforward and clear.
'It goes contrary to all my training as a mathematician, and even the religious thinking I've come to be comfortable with. There has been nothing like it in all the hundreds of years of modern science.'
Aumann talked to leading mathematicians in Israel, in the United States, all over the world. No-one could find a flaw in the maths. Finally, on March 19, 1996, the most famous mathematician in Israel told the Israeli Academy of Science; 'The Bible code is an established fact.'

The question is whether the Bible mathematical code tells us what will happen or may happen, presents one predetermined future, or predicts all the possible futures.
Physicists have been locked in the same debate ever since Werner Heisenberg formulated his famous Uncertainty Principle, which states that there is not one future, but many possible futures.
In the end, all conventional science, indeed all conventional concepts of reality, may be irrelevant (1 Timothy 6:20*). If some Being that stands outside the system, outside our three dimensions, outside of time, encoded The Bible, the code may not obey any of our laws (Deuteronomy 4:2), scientific or otherwise.

• 1 Timothy 6:20
• O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE (knowledge) FALSELY SO CALLED:

Once we admit that we are not alone - that there is some super-intelligence infinitely beyond our own - everything else must be re-examined.
And the greatest scientist of our time, Albert Einstein, never accepted that the universe was governed by chance. 'Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing,' said Einstein. 'But an inner voice (God) tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer to the secret of the "Old One" (The only True Reality - Koran Sura 22:6; etc.*).

* Sura 22:6. This is so, because "I AM" is the Reality: it is He Who gives life to the dead, and it is He Who has power over all things.
22:62. That is because "I AM" - He is the Reality; and those besides Him whom they invoke,- they are but vain Falsehood: verily "I AM" is He, Most High, Most Great.
23:116. Therefore exalted be "I AM", The King, The Reality: there is no God but He, the Lord of the Throne of Honour!
31:30. That is because "I AM" is the (ONLY) Reality, and because whatever else they invoke besides Him is Falsehood (and therefore Fantasy); and because "I AM",- He is the Most High, Most Great.
40:69. Seest thou not those that dispute concerning the Signs of "I AM"? How are they turned away (from Reality)?-
40:70. Those who reject the Book (Bible) and the (Revelations) with which We sent our Apostles: but soon shall they know.

​

There is still a great deal no one knows about The Bible mathematical code. Dr. Eliyahu Rips, who knows more than anyone (about the mathematical code), says it's like a giant jigsaw puzzle with thousands of pieces, and we have only a few hundred.​

Drosnin asked Rips if there was any limit to the information that was in the code, how much of our history was hidden in The Bible. 'Everything,' said the mathematician.
Given that the original text of The Old Covenant/Testament (the " Song of Moses") was only 304,805 letters long, how could that be possible?
'Theoretically there is no limit to the amount of information that could be encoded,' said Rips. He started writing down an equation. Drosnin couldn't understand the maths, but he got the point. Even with a limited data base, there could be an endless number of combinations and permutations.
In the end, says Rips, the amount of information is incalculable, and probably infinite.
And that is only the first, crudest level of The Bible (mathematical) code.
We have always thought of The Bible as a book. We now know that was only its first incarnation. It is also a computer-program. Not merely a book that Eliyahu Rips typed into a computer, but something that its Original Author actually designed to be interactive and ever-expanding.
The Bible code may be a timed series of revelations, each designed for the technology of its age (Daniel 12:4*).

• Daniel 12:4
• But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and "seal" the Book (Revelation/Apocalypse 5:1-5), [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and [evil] knowledge (1 Timothy 6:20) shall be increased.

It may be some form of information we cannot yet fully imagine, something that would be as strange to us now as a computer would have been to people 3,000 years ago.
'It is almost certainly many more levels deep, but we do not have a powerful enough mathematical model to reach it,' says Rips. 'It is probably less like a crossword puzzle and more like a hologram. We are looking at two-dimensional arrays and we probably should look in at least three dimensions, but we don't know how.'
No one can explain how the code was created. Every scientist, every mathematician and physicist who understands the code, agrees that not even the fastest super-computers we have today - not even all of the computers now in the world working together - could have encoded The Bible in the way it was done 3,000 years ago.
'I can't even imagine how it would be done, how anyone could have done it,' says Rips. 'It is a mind beyond our imagination.'
Does it prove there is a God?

For Dr. Eliyahu Rips, the answer is yes. 'The Bible code is firm scientific proof,' the mathematician states. But Rips believed in God before he found the evidence. 'The existence of God requires no mathematical proof.'​

Even before this new mathematical Bible code was discovered we already had proof that God exists because two-thirds of the Bible is written prophecy that; once decoded, using the word code (please read my "The Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse" and "The Invasion of Kuwait in Prophecy" and other booklets), and correlated with our known history; demonstrates that 99.9% of it has already been fulfilled in exact and minute detail. Thus proving the existence of God in the same way that this new mathematical code does. Both, together, cannot possibly be wrong - JAH.

Many will, however, say that we now have the first secular evidence of His existence. I am persuaded only that no human could have encoded the Bible in this way. We do have scientific proof that intelligence outside our own does exist, or at least did exist when The Bible was written.
No one knows if The Bible (mathematical) code accurately foretells what is yet to come*. But that ancient intelligence has encoded The Bible to leave us a warning; that we are about to face the real Armageddon, nuclear world war.

• But the word-code prophecies certainly do - JAH.

More than 2,000 years ago, a Messianic cult hid out in the hills above the Dead Sea, waiting to be joined by angels for the final battle against evil, preparing for the 'War of the Sons of Light with the sons of Darkness'.
Fearing that the Romans would destroy the last remaining copies of The Bible, this small group of ancient Israelites hid hundreds of parchment scrolls in the caves of the sheer desert cliffs.
In 1947, a Bedouin shepherd boy threw a stone into one of the caves, and heard the sound of pottery breaking. Inside a broken urn he found the oldest known copy of any Book of The Bible.
Drosnin climbed those cliffs days after he learned that The Bible, proven by the Dead Sea Scrolls to be at least 2,000 years old, concealed a computerized code which foretold events that happened thousands of years after The Bible was written.
He sat for hours at the top of the barren mountain, looking out over the bleak landscape that had not changed in the millennia since the cult encamped there. The next day, he went to the "Shrine of the Book" in Jerusalem, and saw on display the most ancient prophecy of the Apocalypse, the 2,200 year-old Isaiah scroll(Koran Sura 52:1-3* - JAH).

* Koran Sura 52:1. By the Mount (of Revelation) - the Rock;
52:2. By a Decree inscribed [in Prophecy]
52:3. In a Scroll opened-up [Isaiah 33:16-17; 42:11-12];

The entire original text of Isaiah, found intact in those caves above the Dead Sea, was now wrapped end-to-end around a huge drum that stood on a pedestal, over a deep open well in the centre of the domed museum.
'It is the earliest copy of The Bible known to the world,' Armand Bartos said.
Isaiah describes a terrible Apocalypse yet to come, a truly frightening vision of a future war, and then states: 'For you (who are spiritually deaf and blind - JAH)this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a book.'
It is the first reference to the secret 'sealed book' in The Bible. It is a vision of our future that was hidden, first in a cave, and then in a code that no one could decipher until the computer was invented.
Isaiah predicts that the 'sealed book' will be opened: 'On that day the (spiritually) "deaf" will hear the words of the book, and from the gloom and the darkness the eyes of the (spiritually) "blind" will see it.'
And in the hidden text, first revealed by mathematician Eliyahu Rips, the same verses of Isaiah reveal that the sealed book is the Bible (word - JAH) code: 'He recognized the words, they will be computerized (on the Internet - by JAH), his report they heard on this day, the secrets, the magical words of the book.'
The 2,500-year-old warning of a nuclear war could be found only with a computer. And now The Bible code revealed when and where the real Apocalypse might begin.
I checked every year in the next hundred years. Only two years, 2000 and 2006, were clearly encoded with 'world war'. The same two years were also encoded with 'atomic holocaust'. They were the only two years in the next hundred encoded with both 'atomic holocaust' and 'world war'.
There is no way of knowing whether the code is predicting a war in 2000 or 2006 (possibly beginning in 2000 and climaxing in 2006 - JAH). The year 2000 is encoded twice, but 2006 is mathematically the best match. And there is, of course, no way of knowing if the danger is real.
But if The Bible code is right, a third world war by the end of the century is at least possible, and a world war within the next ten years is a probability we cannot ignore.
World War 3 would literally be Armageddon.

The warning of when and where and how our world might face the real Armageddon was hidden in the most sacred verses of The Bible 3,000 years ago, foretold in a 22-line scroll that is central to The Bible.
The scroll is called the 'Mezuzah'. It contains the 170 words which, from all the 304,805 words of the original Five Books of The Bible, God Commanded be kept in a separate scroll and posted at the entrance of every home.
'In 5760' and 'in 5766' - the years 2000 and 2006 - are encoded in those 170 words.
'World war' - the only time it is encoded in the entire Bible - appears in the same place, and crosses one of the sacred verses.
'Atomic holocaust' - the only time it is encoded in The Bible - also appears with the same two years in the same two verses of the scroll.
The Mezuzah contains 15 verses, and begins with the most important Commandment: 'Hear, O Israel, The Lord our God, The Lord is One.' Twice within those few verses God tells exactly how the words must be preserved:
'And these words (The Covenant), which I command thee this day, shall be in thy heart; and thou shalt teach them diligently to thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

'And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and between thy eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the doorposts of thy house, and on thy gates.'
But a question remained; if the future could be known, could it also be changed? (There are none so blind as those who will not see the obvious - that the reason that this warning is encoded in the Mezuzah is because that is where the answer to all mankind's ills is written - JAH.)

• Deuteronomy 30:15
• See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the "I AM" thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to keep His Commandments and His Statutes and His Judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the "I AM" thy God shall bless thee in the land where thou goest to possess it.
30:17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
30:18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, [and that] ye shall not prolong [your] days upon the land, where thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
30:20 That thou mayest love the "I AM" thy God, [and] that thou mayest obey His voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for He [is] thy Life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the "I AM" sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel, to give them.

The years in which World War 3 might begin were revealed in the most carefully saved words of The Old Covenant/Testament.
And where the years 2000 and 2006 are encoded, the hidden text warns of war: 'It will bombard your country, terror, devastation, it is being launched.'
It could not be by chance that the warning of when the world might face a nuclear war was encoded in two of the 15 verses of The Bible that God twice Commands be memorized, taught to the children, and recited every day and every night.
It could not be by chance that the years most clearly encoded with 'world war' were both hidden in the 170 words that were saved in a separate scroll for 3,000 years, and are still today fastened on the doorway of nearly every home in Israel.
If even one letter is missing, a Mezuzah cannot be used. Someone wanted to make absolutely certain, no matter what happened to the rest of The Bible, that these words, this scroll, were preserved exactly as originally written, with its hidden code intact.

And that ancient code, which now predicted that World War 3 could start within a year, also had predicted that World War 2 would start 'in 5700' - in the modern calendar 1939-1940.
Jerusalem, the most fought-over city in history - from the time king David conquered it, and the Babylonians burned it, and the Romans destroyed it, and the Crusaders besieged it, down through 3,000 years of bloody conflict that did not end when the Israelis took it back in the 1967 war - is clearly encoded in The Bible as the target of the predicted nuclear attack.
Only one world capital is encoded anywhere in The Bible with either 'atomic holocaust' or 'world war' - 'Jerusalem'. The phrase 'Your city to be destroyed by an act of terrorism' crosses 'atomic holocaust'.
And the target is confirmed in the most ancient prophecy of the Apocalypse, the one found intact among the Dead Sea Scrolls.
'Woe to you, Ariel, Ariel, the city where David settled!' warns Isaiah, using an old biblical name for Jerusalem.

The siege that reduces the Holy City to 'dust' is described in words that are vividly apocalyptic: "Suddenly in an instant, the Lord Almighty will come with Thunder and Earthquake (Zechariah 14:4-5*) and great noise, with windstorm (Ezekiel 13:11-13) and tempest and flames of a devouring fire'.

• Zechariah 14:4
• And his (Christ's) feet shall stand in that Day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the East, and the Mt. of Olives shallsplit in half towards the East and towards the West, and there shall be an enormous valley; and half of the Mount of Olives shall move towards the North, and half of it towards the South.

14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of My mountains; when he (Christ) shall touch the valley of the mountain at the place he separated: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the "I AM" my God shall come, [and] all the holy ones with Him. JAH.

It is an extraordinarily accurate vision of an 'atomic holocaust', as foreseen thousands of years ago, expressed in the only words an ancient seer could use.
Now listen again to Isaiah: 'Brought low, you will speak from the ground, your speech will mumble out of the dust, your voice will come ghostlike from the Earth, out of the dust you will whisper*.
'And your (Christ's) many enemies will become like fine dust, the ruthless hordes like blown chaff (Mal 4). It will happen suddenly, in an instant.'
Note well -
Isaiah 5:24
Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, [so] their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away The Law (The Torah) of the "I AM" Lord of hosts, and despised the Word (Christ) of the Holy One of Israel.

• Isaiah 29:4
• And thou shalt be brought down, [and] shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.

29:5 Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones [shall be] as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.
29:6 Thou shalt be visited of the "I AM" Lord of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

It is an odd description of an ancient siege, but a perfect vision of the aftermath of a nuclear strike and counter-strike (or the Reaping with Fire - JAH). And then there is the curious, cryptic passage: 'For you (who are spiritually deaf and blind) this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a book.'

Isaiah 29:11
And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed:
29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [Me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour Me, but have removed their heart far from Me, and their fear toward Me is taught by the precept of men:
29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, [even] a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise [men] shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent [men] shall be hid.
29:15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the "I AM", and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
29:17 [Is] it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest?
29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the Words of the Book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
29:19 The meek also shall increase [their] joy in the "I AM", and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
29:20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
29:21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.

They remained sealed (to mathematicians - JAH), until now, revealed by a code that may exist to warn us at the critical moment of the impending atomic attack.
The long-known biblical prophecy of Armageddon seemed to be confirmed by The Bible mathematical code.
Jerusalem, the centre of the Western world's three major religions, the fabled City where David ruled, where Jesus died, where Mohammed is reputed to have ascended to Heaven, might be obliterated in a final battle brought on by religious hatred.

Drosnin had never believed the Apocalyptic Prophecies of The Bible. He never believed that God or the Devil would destroy the world, or that the forces of good and evil would clash in a Final Battle.
But The Bible code's statement that the final battle, Armageddon, could begin in the Middle East with an act of nuclear terrorism seemed all too real.
The word 'Armageddon' comes from the last Book of The New Testament, in a verse that seems fanciful: 'The spirits of devils, working miracles, go forth unto the kings of the Earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the Battle of that Great Day of God Almighty."
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.'

But Armageddon is a real place. It is the Greek name for an ancient city in Israel, Megiddo (not far from Endor - JAH). In Hebrew, 'Mount Megiddo' is 'Harmegiddo'.
I stopped to see the ruins of this ancient fortified city when, late one night, I was en route for Jerusalem. It seemed inconceivable that this remote place would ever really be the site of a major battle.
But near Megiddo, hidden from tourists, is one of Israel's most important Air-Force bases, Ramat David. It is in the North, facing Israel's implacable foe, Syria. It would be on the front line of any real war in the modern Middle East.
'Armageddon' is encoded in The Bible with the name of Syria's leader, Hafez Asad. In fact, the name of the actual site of the long-prophesied Final Battle appears with his name in a single skip sequence: 'Armageddon, Asad holocaust.' 'Syria' is encoded with 'world war'. It is the country that stands out, because it is not expected*. 'Russia' and 'China' and 'USA' also appear with 'world war' but they are the three superpowers most likely to be involved. Syria is the surprise.
*By Michael Drosnin perhaps. However, I wrote to the Chief of the Joint Staff General Colin Powell at the beginning of the Gulf War in 1990 to warn him about Syria - JAH

But if Armageddon is real, it may begin the way it is prophesied in the plain text of The Bible (in Revelation 9 - JAH).

Revelation 9:13
And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great River Euphrates.
9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for The Hour, and The Day, (the month, and the year) for to slay the third part of men.
9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand (200,000,000): and I HEARD the number of them.

The last Book of the New Testament predicts a final war of unprecedented fury: 'Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the Earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle.'
No one knows where the ancient 'Gog and Magog' were located (please speak for yourself Mr. Drosnin. They are Mesech [Moscow] and Tubal [Tobolsk] - JAH). But the original prophecy of the final Battle, told in Ezekiel, is that Israel will be invaded from the North. The only modern enemy north of Israel is Syria(and then Russia - Revelation*).[/I]

• Rev. 16:12
• And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great River Euphrates; and the "water" thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the East (eastern block) might be prepared.

'Syria' is encoded in Ezekiel, starting in the verse that predicts the invasion. Syria's allies are named: 'Persia' and 'Phut' - countries that are now called Iran and Libya.
The plain text of Ezekiel predicts a terrible battle between Israel and the surrounding Arab nations. According to The Bible code, that is how World War 3 might begin - with an atomic attack on Jerusalem, followed by an invasion of Israel.
At the close of the 20th century, we are threatened with a kind of chaos that the world has never faced before (Daniel 12:1; Matthew 24:21-22). We have built weapons that can destroy civilization in a single day, and those weapons may now be on the loose.
The predictions in The Bible code seem to fulfill the open prophecy of The Bible, and the horror is now given a face and a time and a place - the real Armageddon, perhaps within a year.
But the code is more than a warning. It may be the information we need to prevent the predicted disaster. The words 'code will save' (the "Elect" - JAH) appear right above 'atomic holocaust', just below 'the End of Days' - the biblical Apocalypse.
The Bible code (itself) is not a promise of Divine salvation. It is not a threat of inevitable doom. It is just information. Its message is that we can save ourselves.
In the end, what we do determines the outcome. So we are left where we have always been, with one big difference - we now know that we are not alone.


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• Jorgelito - Posted Jul 27th 2013
  
  
  
  What is the glue that connects the realms?
  
  
  Eliyahu Rips
  The comments of Eliyahu Rips on the unresolved problems facing science piqued my interest: (1) the observer and and observed being intimately connected somehow (quantum mechanics) and (2) the connection between the material and the spiritual.
  
  Yet in everyday life it is self-evident to most of us that what we do and what we see is an expression and reflection of just one thing -- who we are.
  
  If we think red, we see red cars, red balls and red eyes. If we feel sad, we think of the goodbye girl friend, a grandmother we never got to know, remember no-one-loves-me-but-the-cat. If we think love, we think being alive, laughter, times outside of time.
  
  So what do we think when we don't think? That's when the universe pours in. It happens when I am living my passion, in love or on a super vacation.
  
  So what realms are we connecting then?
  
  
  
  solar cross
  
  It feels like we're connecting realms and things that are vital, but, in fact, we're just being aware of being whole -- the way we really are.
  
  
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The Grand Sextile of July 2013 – A rare opportunity, but will you take it, and how?

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Now we have a beautiful planetary alignment coming up in the next few days, a very rare Grand Sextile forming in the skies above us ringing the earth. How rare are they? Well since the year 1900, this is only the 3rd one involving the major planets, Sun to Pluto. The previous ones occurred on 31st March 1954 and 21st July 1995. Grand Sextiles are made up of 6 or in this case 7 planets all at around 60 degrees to each other forming a star of David pattern.

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So how are they made up? Well within this structure we have two Grand Trines, this time in Water and Earth and three oppositions. It looks pretty and the easy aspects, trines and sextiles allow the energy to flow without any hindrance, so if you set your mind on practical (earth) or emotional (water) desires, you should be able to achieve much in these areas of life. I have already looked before at the grand water trine that can solidify dreams and ideas into a more solid and practical form, and it is joined by a grand earth trine connecting Venus in Virgo to the Moon in Taurus and Pluto in Capricorn. Grand earth trines are quite enduring and stable and this one is aimed very much at transformation, materialism and especially relationships with Venus and the Moon present. There are chances to build powerful relationships and change or regenerate something into a more beautiful form, but the problem as with all grand trines remains, things will look so easy that you may not act to take advantage of the possibilities that exist while it is active.
Now opportunities do present themselves galore in this structure, and the motivation is here. If there is going to be any action, then it is here within these set of oppositions that we will see it. The thing is that these three oppositions are quite stressful ones and they will present their own set of problems to overcome. To start off with, we have Saturn opposed to the Moon which blocks emotion and may cause some suffering, heartache and loss. This opposition is across Taurus and Scorpio so we will have to balance here what we want to keep (Taurus) against what we have to let go (Scorpio).

The second opposition sees Venus and Neptune at odds across the chart. This is an opposition of idealism, of wanting things so perfect (Venus in Virgo needs things to be just so) that they never really achieve the state that you wish them to be, or you may be fooled into thinking they are, or worse still you may be dishonest to get the perfection or relationship or possessions you desire. There is great creativity here to make inspirational designs and think up concepts of wonderful beauty and grace, and there is also overriding feeling here that you could provide some service (Venus in Virgo) and make sacrifices (Neptune in Pisces) in giving your time up to help others.
The third of the oppositions has Pluto in Capricorn opposing Jupiter and Mars in Cancer. This could be very troublesome as Mars will fight against the controlling influence of Pluto, and Jupiter in the mix could blow things up completely out of proportion. Will someone or something prevent you from taking a chance or a risk that you think is worth taking? If you can harness this cardinal energy, then the sky is the limit and you can transform existing structures into something dynamic and strong.
Outside of the grand sextile, Uranus squares this very difficult Pluto opposition to Mars and Jupiter, bringing in unexpected and rebellious energy and elsewhere the Sun on the 29th July will square the Moon and also Saturn which is difficult, harsh and potentially upsetting in itself, someone or something may block your progress and stop you in your tracks, completely putting the brakes on the free flowing nature of the trines and sextiles in action.

In summary, I can see a big emphasis initiating ambitions, creating relationships, helping people out and controlling the emotional direction of your life although there will be some potential roadblocks that you will have to overcome along the way. I do think there could also be a great amount of trouble directed at you too if you do decide to take things into your own hands and people object to your methods, especially if you do things in a less than honest manner. The choice is yours to use the beneficial elements here and plough on regardless being straight with yourself and with others to make some positive and lasting changes to yourself and other people, or to succumb and get sucked in to taking the least line of resistance. Remember in life and in Astrology too, taking short cuts or gaining advantage by deceiving rarely ever works out in the end.
I think this going to be a few very interesting days to get through, and I would be fascinated to find out about your personal experiences of this very rare formation in the skies as it begins to form…

http://solarisastrology.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/the-grand-sextile-of-july-2013-rare.html#


Dividing the circle by six

The next division of the circle in the three series is the division by six. The number six is the product of the primal feminine and masculine numbers, two and three, and the six-pointed star and the sextile are both examples of harmony and balance in action, representing a synthesis of male and female. The upward-pointing triangle is the masculine triad and the downward-pointing triangle is the feminine triad.

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The meaning of the number six is not unlike the meaning of the sixth sign and the natural 6th house of Virgo. It is both active and stable. It combines the ease and natural talent of the number three with the energy of the number two. It always reminds me of the industrious and productive activity of bees, whose honeycombs are constructed in the form of six-sided hexagons.


The Sextile 60°

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The sextile, which is the 60° aspect created when the circle is divided into six, is not as passive as the trine. Sextiles, like bees, are industrious, practical, energetic and skilful. Planets in sextile aspect work rhythmically, fluidly and effectively together. This is an active, productive and talented aspect which functions with ease. There is an interesting feature with these two unfolding number sequences. As the two series unfolds from the opposition to the square to the semi-square and sesqui-quadrate, the aspects gradually become easier, less paralysed and tense, and more effective. As the three series unfolds, on the other hand, from the trine to the sextile, to the semi-sextile and quincunx, it becomes less passive or inert, and more dynamic and active and, eventually, stressful. Planets in trine share the same element, and planets in sextile share the same polarity, such as fire and air, which are both yang energy, or earth and water, which are both yin energy. So you can see that the sextile combines elements which are not identical but complementary.



Grand Sextile

On very rare occasions, a grand sextile forms in the heavens, with six planets evenly distributed around the chart at 60° angles from each other. This is a very beautiful pattern, of course, and there is something particularly pleasing, harmonious and well balanced about this aspect pattern. However, it is extremely rare and I have yet to see a chart with a true grand sextile.

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Because this is such a desirable pattern, people will sometimes bring in asteroids and fixed stars and all sorts of other celestial bric-a-brac in order to force a grand sextile out of their charts, but I am not sure this works because, by its nature, this pattern is inherently joyful, gracious and immensely talented. I think it is a gift which is either given to us in its entirety in the form of six planets in sextile to each other, or not at all.
Audience: But do you think it would be valid to include Chiron, the Nodes and the angles?
Clare: Yes, that would be worth considering, but as I said, I have never seen one, even including these extra points, so it is outside my personal experience.


Kite

Our next aspect pattern is a development of the grand trine, and occurs when a planet makes sextiles to two of the planets in the grand trine. This means that it will also be opposite the third planet in the grand trine. That is a kite. The planet at the apex of the kite provides an active and talented outlet for the otherwise self-contained grand trine. The apex planet will, of course, be opposite the remaining planet in the grand trine, but this opposition is not isolated or unresolved because each end is fed back into the kite. In fact, the opposition provides the backbone of this entire pattern, just as it does with a real kite. Without the central post, the kite would clearly not be able to fly.

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Audience: Can you give an example of the way a kite works?
Clare: Yes, although no matter what the general rules are, every aspect and every aspect pattern needs to be individually analysed and interpreted entirely in its own terms. This means that we need to examine and try to understand how each unique combination of planets, signs and houses comes together to create a particular story. I have some examples here, and maybe you will find a kite in your own charts. Am I overwhelming you? Is this all too much to take in at once?
Audience: No, it's getting interesting.
Clare: Here is a woman with a grand trine in air, with the Sun in Aquarius in the 10th house, Uranus in Gemini in the 2nd house, and Neptune-Chiron in Libra in the 6th house. The apex planet that forms the kite is Pluto in Leo in the 4th house. A grand trine in air is very intellectual, isn't it, and there is something particularly electric about this one, since we have the Sun in Aquarius, and Uranus, which is the ruler of the Sun, in Gemini.
This represents a high level of mental energy. And the high energy of those planets flows into Neptune in Libra, which longs for beauty, harmony and balance. The presence of Chiron with Neptune describes her sensitivity to beauty and her devotion to her work. With an Aquarian Sun in the 10th house, she will want to 'break the mould' in her profession, and gain recognition for being unusual or innovative in some way. Uranus in Gemini in the 2nd house indicates not only that this is a free thinker, but that she is a free agent, living by her wits and working for herself. Neptune and Chiron in the 6th house indicate that she will devote herself unconditionally to her work, but also that she is physically vulnerable in some way. All this sensitivity and electricity will find an outlet and be anchored through Pluto in Leo in the 4th house, which intensifies the entire pattern and gives her a rather obsessive Sun-Pluto opposition. Incidentally, Pluto is the only planet in a fire sign, so it carries all the intense, creative energy of fire in her chart. This also indicates the importance of her family.

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This kite belongs to Jacqueline Du Pré, the cellist, who was an exceptionally talented musician and a very powerful performer. If you have ever heard her play Elgar, you will know what I am talking about. It is an astonishing experience, quite electrifying. With her Sun in Aquarius in the 10th house, it is not surprising that there is a biography about her called A Genius in the Family, and it is also interesting that Jacqueline's mother was her first teacher, no doubt recognising her unusual talent at a very young age. Jacqueline went on to have an extremely successful career, performing all over the world and receiving a host of awards and prizes.
Audience: I am thinking of the Chiron-Neptune conjunction in the 6th house, because of the illness she had.
Clare: Yes, she was only twenty-eight when she started to lose the feeling in her fingers, which was the onset of the multiple sclerosis, a progressively debilitating illness, which eventually led to her death at the age of forty-two. But we could also interpret this Neptune-Chiron conjunction in the 6th house in Libra as her close working relationship with her husband, the pianist Daniel Barenboim. No doubt this was a magical and creative partnership, but intensely painful for her as well.
Audience: The marriage broke down, didn't it? That must have been very painful for her.
Clare: Yes, although they stayed married until her death.
Audience: Have you seen Hilary and Jackie, which is the film about her life? According to the film, she had an affair with her sister's husband. All the pressures of her professional life led her to a near nervous breakdown, and the affair was her way of escaping from all the demands and trying to create a private life of her own. Unfortunately, the private life she wanted already belonged to her sister.
Clare: Pluto in the 4th house is not going to be simple, indicating hidden and taboo issues in the family, and no doubt an element of intense jealousy and rage as well. Hopefully, you can see from this particular example that every aspect pattern needs to be carefully interpreted in its own terms. Although we are likely to think of kites as fortunate patterns, and there is no doubt that they describe inherent talent and the opportunity to express that talent through the apex planet, you can see that, in this case, it was also extremely difficult and painful.


The minor grand trine

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More common than the kite, the minor grand trine is composed of two planets in a trine aspect, which both make sextiles with a third planet. Here, the ease, enjoyment and talent of the trine is activated and expressed through the apex planet.



Grand rectangle

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There is another aspect pattern which is comprised entirely of sextiles, trines and oppositions, and this is usually known as a 'mystic rectangle'. Personally, I think this is a rather confusing and unhelpful name for this aspect pattern, since the word 'mystic' always seems to throw us off track, and I can see no reason why this pattern is any more 'mystic' than anything else in the chart. So I am going to use some artistic licence and call it a grand rectangle. This is not a particularly common aspect pattern but, like the kite, it is potentially creative and talented. By themselves, the two trines are not particularly active, but they are put to work by the two sextiles, and two oppositions lend dynamism to this rather pleasing pattern. This is a particularly well-integrated shape in which the planets occupying the four corners are harmoniously linked and able to function extremely effectively together.
Audience: Is it still a grand rectangle if the angles make up one of the oppositions?
Clare: The question of whether or not the angles and Nodes should be included in aspect patterns is open to debate. There are certainly many astrologers who consider that it is only the planets that form aspect patterns. Personally, I think each chart has to be considered carefully in its own terms, and sometimes it seems as if the nodal axis and angles should be included, and sometimes not.
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• SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Jul 28th 2013
  
  is there a way to see the full chart ?
  and,curious if there is a way to make a chart that shows all the calendars ?
  (what program would i need to do that ?)
  thanks, susan
  
  
  
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  THE13thBRiDGE-SUSAN - Posted Jul 28th
  
  is there a way to see the full chart ?
  and,curious if there is a way to make a chart that shows all the calendars ?
  (what program would i need to do that ?)
  thanks, susan
  
  

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  This edit fully incorporates the Thuban timeline Susan and crystallizes the meaning of the 5 vayeb or 'missing days' we have addressed previously. As you can see, the 5 'extra days' are both added and subtracted to calibrate the Mayan Haab with the Mayan Tzolkin and with the Julian and Gregorian Civil Calendars in using the 'Great Circle- or Degree Year' of Plato as the 'prophetic year' encoded in the ancient scrolls and scriptures.
  Anyone wishing to decipher this decoded mandala chart will have to do some work on their own and become familiar with some 'background information'. I have laboured for over 18 years on this and my agency as a 'Scribe and friend of the Cosmic Logos' has now ended.
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Jorgelito - Posted Aug 4th 2013

Emeth141, I like how the sound of Scribe and friend of the Cosmic Logos rolls in my mouth. I've found sometimes that means the sound itself has a special meaning. Have you give yourself a new title?



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Jorgelito - Posted 15 Minutes Ago

Emeth141, I like how the sound of Scribe and friend of the Cosmic Logos rolls in my mouth. I've found sometimes that means the sound itself has a special meaning. Have you give yourself a new title?

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It relates to this 'Cosmic Childishness' Jorgelito:
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'The Unicorn Dragon in Noah's Ark' from the 'Fairyland of the Leprechauns' of the Archetypes perhaps.​

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Jorgelito - Posted Aug 4th 2013



Emeth141, definitely more whimsical I would say! And fun! I like Peter, Paul and Mary.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Aug 4th 2013

Yes and this foursome here are very pertinent songs for the present times. Oldies yet true from the heart and the cosmic soul of primordial creation.

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Emeth141, I had forgotten how strong and true they sing. Leaving on a Jet Plane captured the feeling I had saying good-by to my first girlfriend -- I left for California and she for Penn -- after spending the summer together on Shelter Island, NY.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Aug 22nd 2013

On the Reconfiguration of Archetypes and Timespaces

[2:22:00 PM-Thursday, August 22nd, 2013 +10UCT] mel: tony?
[5:10:46 PM] mel: im seeing the black octahedron again...wanted to ask you about what it might mean. ok ttyl
[5:11:19 PM] Emeth 141: I am here mel
[5:11:44 PM] Emeth 141: Octahedron like two pyramids back to back?
[5:11:53 PM] mel: yes.
[5:12:20 PM] mel: i saw it... i think two years ago if im not mistaken
[5:12:36 PM] mel: trying to visualize, learning about merkaba for the first time
[5:13:06 PM] *** Emeth 141 sent sealofsolomon.jpg *



[5:13:07 PM] mel: it was black and rotating and it felt terribly heavy. but familiar somehow
[5:13:39 PM] *** Emeth 141 sent solomon_seal1_400.jpg *



[5:14:04 PM] mel: yeah at first it was all black but then it cracked open and light leaked out and it felt..i cant describe but it scared me and left it alone
[5:14:13 PM] Emeth 141: Those 2 pics and some messages on the forum indicate this
[5:14:27 PM] mel: yes i saw them before
[5:14:38 PM] Emeth 141: It is simply the duality becoming harmonised
[5:14:50 PM] mel: i didn't know what they had to do with me so left it for another time
[5:15:14 PM] Emeth 141: Seal of Solomon or David's Star as hexagon becoming the 'container' for the two pentagons
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[5:15:48 PM] mel: ohh
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[5:16:27 PM] mel: hm
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[5:18:37 PM] *** Emeth 141 sent yin_yangf_male.jpg *



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[5:21:07 PM] *** Emeth 141 sent 1150868_10153169053850556_2117686029_n.jpg ***
[5:21:41 PM] Emeth 141: Sorry doubled, but this last one shows you this in the context of the good versus evil
[5:22:16 PM] Emeth 141: Look at the 5 points upside down AND upright and you can make the hexagon from it
[5:22:30 PM] Emeth 141: This is the basics of the archetype
[5:22:55 PM] mel: i see
[5:22:59 PM] mel: thank you tony
[5:23:05 PM] Emeth 141: This is what this means
[5:23:55 PM] Emeth 141: Because you and most carry all this duality inside EVIL=LIVE, the dreams and higher D impressions result in a reconfig of your emotional 'spirit' state
[5:24:27 PM] Emeth 141: So the black half of the pyramid became white with light coming out from it
[5:27:28 PM] mel: uh huh
[5:28:02 PM] Emeth 141: Its a mirror between the two sides of the same coin
[5:28:20 PM] Emeth 141: Like giving you eyes at the back of your head
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[5:28:56 PM] Emeth 141: Male and Female as a new cosmic androgyne
[5:33:58 PM] mel: i see
[5:34:08 PM] mel: i feel like throwing up
[5:34:20 PM PM] Emeth 141: Why?
[5:34:48 PM] mel: makes my head feel like its "lifting"
[5:34:58 PM] mel: i feel dizzy
[5:35:22 PM] mel: ill be fine
[5:35:25 PM] Emeth 141: Hmm August 21st is an encoded day of ending a long resistance
[5:35:37 PM] Emeth 141: So this could relate
[5:35:40 PM] mel: i think its just the moment feelings heavy
[5:42:10 PM] mel: long resistance?
[5:42:17 PM] mel: against what
[5:43:01 PM] Emeth 141: A dynamic code so 2600 years old
[5:43:11 PM] Emeth 141: Daniel in the OT
[5:43:24 PM] Emeth 141: Daniel 10
[5:43:50 PM] Emeth 141: Daniel is the OT's Revelation
[5:44:00 PM] Emeth 141: Those codes are linked
[5:44:21 PM] Emeth 141: There are 21 days of Gabriel in Dan.10
[5:44:42 PM] Emeth 141: And those 21 days began as a final addon on July 31st
[5:44:46 PM] mel: oh.
[5:44:53 PM] mel: btw sorry im slow im reading old posts on thuban
[5:44:57 PM] mel: all of a sudden they speak to me
[5:45:49 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, this might be because a 'siege' has been lifted
[5:45:58 PM] Emeth 141: Here is the code if you can read this
[5:46:06 PM] Emeth 141:

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Daniel.10 - King James Version (KJV)
¹ In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
² In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
³ I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
⁴ And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;
⁵ Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
⁶ His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
⁷ And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
⁸ Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.
⁹ Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.
¹⁰ And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands.
¹¹ And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
¹² Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
¹³ But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
¹⁴ Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
¹⁵ And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.
¹⁶ And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.
¹⁷ For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
¹⁸ Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
¹⁹ And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
²⁰ Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
²¹ But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.



[5:48:05 PM] mel: three questions
[5:48:11 PM] Emeth 141: Ok
[5:48:24 PM] mel: whats pleasant bread
[5:48:42 PM] mel: whats the significance of anointing ones self
[5:48:48 PM] mel: and whats daniels comelieness
[5:48:49 PM] Emeth 141: Many things including the 'manna' but this also relates to sex
[5:49:39 PM] Emeth 141: comeliness here means strength well beingness
[5:50:17 PM] Emeth 141: The anointing can only come from the higher d self and such things
[5:50:54 PM] Emeth 141: 'Feeling bad about yourself' is the turning within or inside out in this context
[5:51:24 PM] mel: the timing could fit
[5:51:41 PM] mel: i lost my appetite at least three weeks ago for most food
[5:51:46 PM] mel: esp. meat.
[5:52:16 PM] mel: been sleepy weak slow and got sick.
[5:52:26 PM] Emeth 141: Yes Daniel here is the prophet within everyone able to carry the energies of the transformations
[5:52:58 PM] mel: and yes the turning within, well thats a normal thing so
[5:53:26 PM] mel: but i don't know what this vision means exactly.
[5:53:28 PM] Emeth 141: As said the timeline is dynamic, meaning those number codes are multivalued
[5:53:32 PM] mel: yes
[5:53:38 PM] Emeth 141: But eventually they are 'fulfilled'
[5:53:51 PM] Emeth 141: And the 21 days ended today
[5:54:22 PM] Emeth 141: The 70 weeks ended August 3rd
[5:54:49 PM] Emeth 141: Becasue this must fulfil the timeline in the warpzone
[5:55:08 PM] Emeth 141: And the warpzone was December 8th 2004 to March 31st, 2012
[5:55:15 PM] mel: lol good timing this is the thread im reading.

http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=A75D2DBB-D8A3-455E-9EA3-DEC572F89BD1&fid=02788C07-B818-4470-A7D5-6D8D5092B518

[5:55:58 PM] Emeth 141: This is an old one, when DD was with us
[5:56:09 PM] Emeth 141: Easter 2011
[5:57:29 PM] mel: uh huh
[5:59:35 PM] mel: hmm
[6:00:16 PM] Emeth 141: The info is ok, but the personal stuff is sort of passe
[6:00:42 PM] mel: i understand.
[6:02:26 PM] mel: i appreciate the resources, tony.
[6:02:54 PM] mel: i usually look things up but i felt like i was supposed to talk about it with you
[6:03:10 PM] Emeth 141: Well your problem is no such thing. It is just your personal processing of the cosmic stuff
[6:04:12 PM] mel: problem?
[6:04:48 PM] Emeth 141: What you talked about the dark octahedron
[6:06:18 PM] mel: ahhh ok
[6:10:40 PM] mel: so its a good thing
[6:10:41 PM] mel: allright
[6:12:19 PM] Emeth 141: Yes it is a good development of your individual evolvement
[6:13:18 PM] mel: how are you
[6:13:24 PM] Emeth 141: ok
[6:14:10 PM] mel: uh huh.
[6:14:16 PM] mel: ill accept that
[6:14:21 PM] Emeth 141: lol
[6:14:31 PM] mel: its the same over here anyhow
[6:14:40 PM] mel: just ok.. more like ko'd most times
[6:14:57 PM] mel: but eh, we keep going
[6:15:51 PM] Emeth 141: That's it
[6:16:15 PM] Emeth 141: Not happy, but existing on for the cosmic purpose or such
[6:16:26 PM] mel: aye
[6:17:28 PM] mel: and your role is dynamic, as well?
[6:18:13 PM] Emeth 141: Like anyone's incarnational role I guess
[6:18:29 PM] Emeth 141: I feel I have more or less done what I came to do
[6:18:55 PM] mel: ah
[6:19:09 PM] Emeth 141: It has been a long drag. Now I simply can wait for greater agencies to do their thing using certain groundworks
[6:20:06 PM] mel: hmm
[6:20:38 PM] mel: as always, thank you for all you have done, tony.
[6:21:24 PM] Emeth 141: No problem. I simply have lost the impetus to engage people's own egoes now and so I stay quiet and keep to myself
[6:23:28 PM] Emeth 141: But I do talk to genuine, meaning less pretentious people like you here, if I am aware of it
[6:24:33 PM] mel: ah
[6:24:50 PM] mel: same here. i read and watch
[6:24:56 PM] mel: process
[6:25:25 PM] Emeth 141: Yes we are in observer modes
[6:25:43 PM] Emeth 141: The cosmos is changing and has new tools
[6:25:56 PM] Emeth 141: But how long this all takes I dont know
[6:26:44 PM] mel: new tools?
[6:26:49 PM] mel: i don't think its about how long
[6:27:17 PM] Emeth 141: Before the physical universe CAN change, the metaphysical must change and this requires New Laws
[6:27:31 PM] mel: it feels like its ready, the plan fulfilled any time, but its boiled down to a choice
[6:27:53 PM] mel: whose choice, im not so sure about.
[6:27:53 PM] Emeth 141: Individual yes, but the options are not seen as yet
[6:28:08 PM] mel: new laws?
[6:28:10 PM] Emeth 141: This is the timeline stuff
[6:28:15 PM] Emeth 141: Indeed
[6:28:31 PM] Emeth 141: Like changing the 1-1 Adam-Eve fuckup
[6:28:52 PM] Emeth 141: This is the present ado over same sex marriages etc
[6:29:18 PM] Emeth 141: It is homophobia and encoded in the OT in a primitive manner not to be redefined until the times of Jesus and the NT
[6:29:32 PM] Emeth 141: But it is interpreted as sexism, which it is not
[6:29:56 PM] Emeth 141: It is the 'unprofitable' old law, as Jesus would say
[6:30:45 PM] Emeth 141: Eve was NOT created equal. Can you see this?
[6:31:08 PM] Emeth 141: She is symbolically a man as Adam's rib and flesh
[6:31:21 PM] Emeth 141: Lilith is the code for the true femme
[6:32:20 PM] mel: yes
[6:33:40 PM] Emeth 141: So here you have a good example as to why certain old cosmic not human made, laws must change and be rewritten
[6:34:04 PM] Emeth 141: This is what Thuban was all about
[6:34:51 PM] Emeth 141: The OT was renewed in the NT and the NT is renewed in a third dispensation of a new younger generation
[6:35:41 PM] Emeth 141: No conspiracies or Nabs required
[6:36:01 PM] mel: uh huh
[6:36:10 PM] Emeth 141: Just understanding and a new way of using better data and information
[6:38:24 PM] mel: i agree
[6:38:35 PM] Emeth 141: Common sense
[6:39:11 PM] Emeth 141: You mind if i share this. This talk is generally relevant?
[6:42:47 PM] mel: don't mind at all.
[6:43:10 PM] mel: i kinda knew it would be.
[6:43:16 PM] Emeth 141: Good and not many read this stuff anyhow
[6:43:36 PM] Emeth 141: But this is for the ETs lol and I the 'higher selves' of us
[6:43:44 PM] Emeth 141: A sort of record keeping
[6:44:30 PM] Emeth 141: Microsoft has stuffed up skype and does not autosave the convos any longer afaik
[6:45:53 PM] mel: allright
[6:48:15 PM] mel: what is
[6:48:20 PM] mel: this reality switching
[6:48:28 PM] mel: that keeps being mentioned
[6:50:47 PM] Emeth 141:
http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=C8003AFA-256F-490A-942F-15A004A56BC8&lastp=1&id=BDB3F1DE-78FA-4432-8DE8-567D1E8AF6BB
[6:51:08 PM] Emeth 141: It is like 'New spacetime' available for the old systems
[6:51:18 PM] Emeth 141: This convo is there
[6:51:25 PM] Emeth 141: I will add the pics
[6:51:43 PM] Emeth 141: This began on December 21st, 2012
[6:52:08 PM] Emeth 141: It is like a expanding bubble and so like a new universe born from the old universe
[7:00:06 PM] mel: ty
[7:02:00 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, again like common sense
[7:02:16 PM] mel: new space-time. hmm
[7:03:48 PM] Emeth 141: Yes or timespace
[7:07:57 PM] mel: for who
[7:09:47 PM] Emeth 141: All that exists; all life and consciousness carriers
[7:16:37 PM] mel: hmm
[7:17:54 PM] mel: wait
[7:18:10 PM] mel: i still don't undertstand the daniel code mentioned earlier
[7:20:36 PM] Emeth 141: It is a very ancient code mel
[7:21:06 PM] Emeth 141: To understand it you require a lot of background in all the old scrolls and scriptures
[7:21:14 PM] Emeth 141: But the personal is easy
[7:21:36 PM] Emeth 141: It is simply you as a 'Cosmic Child and ambassador' say
[7:27:05 PM] mel: oh
[7:28:31 PM] Emeth 141: Yes you are the 'prophet' and the 'christened' cosmic child by birthright of being here
[7:29:16 PM] Emeth 141: Why do you think so many 'messiahs' and 'reformers' are walking about, especially in these times of cosmic reconfigurations universal?
[7:30:20 PM] Emeth 141: You are BOTH, Christ and Antichrist by nature of the sexuality definitions of the cosmic reproduction mechanics
[7:30:45 PM] mel: so if one human, even me comes to remembrance of this
[7:31:05 PM] mel: the remembrance ripples outward?
[7:31:17 PM] Emeth 141: You are One of the Many and in the Many, but also the Many in the One
[7:31:26 PM] Emeth 141: Of course
[7:31:36 PM] mel: ok.
[7:32:02 PM] Emeth 141: But those remembrances are VERY easily hijacked by the human mindedness, often disguising in either false humility or megalomania
[7:32:56 PM] mel: it happens, i know it happens to me
[7:32:57 PM] Emeth 141: Unless you can perceive and think in non human ways, you will most likely become meme enslaved by partial remembrances and interpretations of your impressions
[7:33:26 PM] Emeth 141: Now you know the secret of Thuban's dragonhood
[7:33:49 PM] Emeth 141: It is necessity to NOT think of yourself as a human cosmic participator
[7:34:03 PM] mel: whats false humility? just to make sure we're on the same page
[7:34:55 PM] Emeth 141: There are many people, who belittle themselves outwardly, but inwardly have colossal egocentricity the human, not the cosmic way
[7:35:36 PM] mel: ah. ok
[7:35:51 PM] Emeth 141: On the other hand many 'hide' and mask their insecurities, by claiming whatever things, ancestries and lineages
[7:35:55 PM] mel: human cosmic participator?
[7:36:05 PM] Emeth 141: Ys, by birth again
[7:36:29 PM] Emeth 141: Just being here in incarnation, renders you 'cosmically unique'
[7:36:43 PM] mel: Ys?
[7:36:46 PM] Emeth 141: The outward forms dont matter very much at all
[7:37:04 PM] Emeth 141: What counts is your adaptation to your environments encountered
[7:37:11 PM] mel: yes
[7:37:33 PM] Emeth 141: Typo
[7:37:40 PM] mel: k
[7:37:45 PM] mel: yyy?
[7:41:11 PM] Emeth 141: Yes-Yes-Yes in contraindication of nnn as No-No-No
[7:43:38 PM] mel: ah ok
[7:44:13 PM] Emeth 141: It relates to the threeness, like the trinity symbols
[7:49:11 PM] mel: i see
[7:52:15 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and this means you are 3 generations in one as a new 4th generation graduating your old humanness into dragonhood aka starhumanity
[7:53:09 PM] Emeth 141: You are required to embody both your mother and your daughter within yourself, BEFORE you can cosmically couple to your own 'missing' maleness
[7:53:20 PM] mel: the two moons
[7:54:11 PM] Emeth 141: Likewise your CORE must become his own father and his own son to HEAL the old Adamness into something new, namly the Alchemical Cosmic Twin or divine androgyne
[7:54:38 PM] Emeth 141: Then such a 'New Man' can then couple and core with a 'New Woman' or Eve as the Lilith of the original definition and symbolism
[7:57:13 PM] Emeth 141: Then you become a SheHe and he becomes a HeShe and you are a Cored and Entwined Cosmic Twinship as the encoded 'Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone' in which all the old lies and deceptions regarding your cosmic ID are 'eternally damned' aka trapped because you have graduated as a cosmic being
[7:57:43 PM] Emeth 141: All this stuff is encoded in the scriptures and the master code of the Gospel of Thomas in the words of the 'transfigured' physical Jesus with MM as the prototype for this universal reconfiguration and transformation
[8:02:13 PM] mel: okay
[8:05:02 PM] Emeth 141: So you see here that the gayness is a non sequitur cosmically and very natural
[8:05:40 PM] Emeth 141: It is like a cosmic hickup until the new generation 'is born' from its ancestry
[8:06:25 PM] mel: i see
[8:06:35 PM] Emeth 141: But this becomes an important indicator or 'cosmic hint' as to how the human made laws are 'forced by nature' to reform themselves
[8:07:13 PM] Emeth 141: Why now globally the 'same sex' unions are so prevalent. It is cosmically and not human timed as consequence of both human and cosmic self evolvement
[8:07:54 PM] Emeth 141: But in the 'New World' all this is irrelevant, because all starhumans are doublesexed by nature
[8:08:40 PM] Emeth 141: It 'confirms' the cosmic Logos timeline as being superior to any human made legislature in encompassments
[8:13:24 PM] mel: yes
[8:17:22 PM] Emeth 141: I will go now Honeybee, thanks for the record creating
[8:17:43 PM] mel: me too
[8:17:45 PM] mel: and thank you
[8:18:04 PM] Emeth 141: We did good work for the greater beingness
[8:18:28 PM] mel: for helping my attention back to where it should be.
[8:18:29 PM] mel: yes
[8:18:53 PM] Emeth 141: You did extra well in this exchange sweety
[8:19:18 PM] mel: likewise. good morning, or night.
[8:19:31 PM] Emeth 141: Buenas Honybee Melissa
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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Aug 27th 2013

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Matthew 24 - King James Version (KJV)
¹ And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
² And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
³ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
⁴ And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
⁵ For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
⁶ And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
⁷ For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
⁸ All these are the beginning of sorrows.
⁹ Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
¹⁰ And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
¹¹ And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
¹² And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
¹³ But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
¹⁴ And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
¹⁹ And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
²⁰ But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
²³ Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
²⁴ For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
²⁵ Behold, I have told you before.
²⁶ Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
²⁷ For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
²⁸ For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
²⁹ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
³⁰ And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
³¹ And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
³² Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
³³ So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
³⁴ Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
³⁵ Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
³⁶ But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
³⁷ But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
³⁸ For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
³⁹ And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
⁴⁰ Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
⁴¹ Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
⁴² Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
⁴³ But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
⁴⁴ Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
⁴⁵ Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
⁴⁶ Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
⁴⁷ Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
⁴⁸ But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
⁴⁹ And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
⁵⁰ The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
⁵¹ And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Sep 2nd 2013

[seerseeker] Are our models of Universe just new myths?

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COMING FULL CIRCLE - I think you are looking at this all wrong. The shift in cosmology over the past 100 years based in Einstien's theories has moved our way of viewing the universe from common sense to abstract. Things are very different from what they might appear. But in watching the HOW THE UNIVERSE WORKS series, I've come to realize the paralllels with the old creation myths with the New Physics. In the old, we see creation from conflict of two opposing forces (gods) and it it the mingling of those two forces which create the universe. In the Asian myths it was seen as the Yin and the Yang without judging either as good or evil. Now we are beginning to realize the universe is expanding and is a hostile environment. We see the interaction of matter and anti-matter as the foundation on which creation came about. Without Dark Matter the galaxies would never have formed, and yet we have Dark Energy moving them farther and farther apart. We see a dying Sun and exploding in a brilliant burst of light only to become the substance in which life and all other aspects become formed by. The spreading of the StarDust become the elements upon which everything else is created. Forming of new galaxies from the cosmic dust is so similar to the "Let there be light" myths, the dying god who is sacrificed and dismembered from which everything else is made of. The Cosmic Egg in the dark sea which bring forth new gods seems to be everything I see in the documentaries about how this universe and earth were created. Over 25 years ago the TAO OF PHYSICS showed the parallels between physics and the Teaching of the Tao. The question we should be asking ourselves is, is science finally bringing us around full circle?

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  Shari Tarbet
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  I don't know who you are responding to here Rob, but I agree that the physics explanation of the creation of existence does parallel very closely myths of creation. By the way, not all creation myths explain cosmology through a conflict of opposing forces. Most Native American myths don't do that and many myths pre 3500bce don't do that. Generally speaking, when a creation myth shows a battle between opposing divinities, it is evidence of a conquering people moving into an area and retelling older myths to show the new gods as superior and destroying the old creation to make way for a recreaction. Marduk and Tiamat is an example of that. YHWH in splitting the waters and the day from the night and defeating Leviathan is an example of that. These myths appear at a time when Indo-Europeans moved out of the Russian steppes south into into Asia, the Middle east and Europe as well as Semitic tribes moving north into the LEvant. Interestingly, when you put creation myths side by side with scientific explanations (particularly Big Bang) and with the Jude o-Christain myths of creation, they are amazingly parallel.
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  David Alderman
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  Dear friends: Please excuse the length of this first of my missives. I am taking time to catch up on the conversation here. Promise not to rant on in future.
  
  
  What interests me here is the presupposition that is something other than a model of the universe and how to live in it. When stated that simply, the very definition of what myth is implies a necessary alignment between the times in which a given myth emerges, the culture by which it is held as true, and the “language” through which the mythic imagination finds its most convincing forms. M.L. von Franz, for example makes a strong case for numbers themselves as archetypal representatives of natural order. She speaks of numbers as organizing principles of eth universe which are realized or discovered rather than something manufactured by reason (Archetypal Dimensions of the Psyche). IN his later work, Jung argued the same, and sought to connect his concept of synchronicity with a similar “acausal” nature: synchronicity as the emergence into consciousness of the innate alignment between psyche and physis (CW vol 8). If this be true (as mathematicians from Pythagoras to Kepler have contended) one might expect that numerical calculations would exhibit their own vital force and scope, beyond our human intellect’s ability to figure. One might also suspect that mathematics would emerge at some time in the history of human evolution as “mythic” vision, a model by which the imagination might take wing, leading the mind beyond the mere mundane into the felt sense of belonging in the universe.
  
  One might suggest that Newton was on the cusp between two mythic traditions: one emerging and the other giving way. The language of mathematical calculation emerged forcefully through him; but he was also a devout alchemist. We might say that mythos and logos imaginal truth and rational truth, coexisted in the mighty mind of Newton. As such , it stands as an icon and precursor of what has been emerging now for about one hundred years. I say only one hundred because the power of calculation and empirical experience needed, as Levis-Stauss noted (Myth and Meaning), the time to fully develop into pure science before its limits (and therefore its viability as metaphor, as language that can point beyond its own literal appearance toward something greater). That turn began with Planc, Einstein and Heisenberg in physics, where uncertainty and universal relativity began the deconstruction of science as a purely objective truth. Cracks in the objective invulnerability of intellect to grasp even its own nature popped up gaping in 1900 with Freud’s Interpretation of Dreams, in Darwin’s evolutionary model of a universe in flux and constant change (1849), and in Frazer’s re-envisioning the import of the realm of myth itself.
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  I would agree that the power of the human intellect to grasp the world directly has now reached and over reached its limits. I see the post-structuralist philosophers who take reason to its full and absurd self-contained limits in the rational deconstruction of reality: where there are no universal truths, which statement is itself a universal. And, yes quantum mechanics has not had a major paradigmatic breakthrough for over 30 years. It has been looking for the Higgs Boson, the elemental force behind the illusive Higgs Field that would account for the odd case that energy takes form at all. Recently, they found a mathematical entity which fits the bill. The field is still imaginal.
  
  Coincidentally (?), it was also about 30 years ago that Chaos theory emerged from a science that until then had ignored whatever did not fit the mathematical model of the day. Now complex systems theory has impacted “every scientific discipline across the board” (Liu, Nonlinear Physics for Beginners) including economics, evolutionary biology, neuroscience, and sociology. The math for this new vision far exceeded to range of the best of human intellects. It was the birth of ever more powerful computers that gave manifestation to a mathematically modeled universe in which not only cause and effect, but the innate, essential, self-organizing nature of the universe, including that of the human psyche, emerged. Now “math” is not only used to know and to control the universe, but to peak into its own essential, “ascausal” self-organizing nature. Buddhism refers to this as suchness.
  
  Jung presaged this scientific development with his concept of the psychoid archetype, “world-forming function” which represents innate nature of all that is, from inert matter to the most numinous of psychic experience. With the rise of complex systems theory (accessibly presented in Waldrop’s 1980’s book Complexity, if you re interested) I suspect that science may be truly approaching a union between logos and mythos. But I also feel that myth itself must be revisioned in order to appreciate these changes in a mythic light. If myth is not something that happened in the past, the province of the Greeks or Christianity or Paganism but of the human psyche itself—if myth is not a thing or type of language but a way of looking at the world imaginally we might turn our mythic imagination toward the holist picture now emerging in our sciences from physics to depth psychology. That world view maintains that there are many possible dimension in which life might manifest, that the universe itself arises out of infinite potential and continues the Creation tpo this day, and that all that is essentially operates on one dialect principle: linear cause and effect on the one hand, and the archetypal emergence of Life’s innate nature on the other. If this be true, then the new mythos of science in the postmodern age maty be capable of fulfill ing all for functions Campbell proposing: paraphrasing, the cosmological, the ecological, the sociological, and that of personal psychology. If we are willing to don our imaginal lens, the new science model, the new science mythos, provides all we may need to once again feel, as evolutionary biologist titles it in his own mythological look at the situation At Home in the Universe.
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  Ivar Nielsen
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  I totally agree with Martin Harris points of view.
  
  The modern cosmology is based on assumptions and additional mathematics in order to support the assumptions and even with clear observations of contradictions, where a theory should have been revised or even discarded, they still keep on adding theoretical epicycles to epicycles as it happens with the "galactic rotation anomaly" that gave birth to the assumption of "dark matter", where it otherwise all makes sense if looking at the galactic formation as a spherical circuit which of course cannot contain any local “force of gravity” as a “black hole”.
  
  Jonas Skendelis asked initially: Are our models of Universe just new myths? Well, yes and no.
  
  * There is a significant difference between the genuine meanings of myths and the assumptive scientifically practice in modern science. The genuine meaning of myths is knowledge and when it comes to the many similar global Stories of Creation, these myths contain more empirical cosmo-logical knowledge than modern science with all its assumptions. These myths are knowledge and not assumptions.
  
  Many Stories of Creation describe a primordial state of elements floating in a vast void and when these elements interact, the creation takes place. Not just as “once upon a time” but as a mythological telling technique of how the creation takes place over and over again. Judging the Stories of Creation as “just myths” derives from a lack of the ability to connect the telling to the real cosmological facts and objects, and here the Milky Way and its mythology plays a great role.
  
  Links:
  
  Joseph Campbell Foundation: http://www.jcf.org/new/forum/viewforum.php?f=41 – Topic: “One Mythology – One Religion – One Cosmology – One People”.
  
  My personal Cosmo-Mythological website: http://www.native-science.net/index.html
  
  Regards Ivar Nielsen, Denmark

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Sep 3rd 2013

On the Universal Gematria

[1:09:14 PM-Tuesday, September 3rd, 2013 +10UCT] mel: tony
[1:11:14 PM] mel: could you help me with something regarding gematria? theres so many systems and something i found is bothering me
[1:27:30 PM] mel: aye
[2:54:36 PM] mel: genesis 37 9...one calculator pops out that for my name. along with genesis 2 24
[3:41:54 PM] Emeth 141: Sure, what exactly are you after to figure?
[3:42:30 PM] Emeth 141: Gematria is now appropriate in say an extended Pythagorean system
[3:49:05 PM] mel: ok
[3:49:12 PM] mel: Good evening
[3:49:56 PM] mel: well... what does gematria mean to you? I've come to understand that its the numerical system behind words and showing their relationships between one another
[3:50:50 PM] mel: theres a lot of systems though. i don't know which to use, im still looking for what feels right. in addition, i don't know what they all mean. the results, that is.
[3:50:55 PM] Emeth 141: Gematria simply means alphanumerics
[3:51:38 PM] Emeth 141: As numerical archetypes created the universe and all that exists from abstraction; this abstraction BECAME what is today called ENERGY
[3:52:38 PM] Emeth 141: So 'all that exists' was made from the WORD becoming physical through SYSTEMS like alphabets and numbers and ciphers, symbols
[3:53:03 PM] Emeth 141: The OM is simply a remembrance of the abstract becoming physical or material
[3:53:33 PM] Emeth 141: No Nabs and illuminati connotations are required
[3:55:01 PM] Emeth 141:

Genesis 2:24 - King James Version (KJV)
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

[3:55:06 PM] mel: yes
[3:55:42 PM] Emeth 141: This code is very deep. It shows you the original creation of the undivided as the yinyang before Adam and Eve typifications
[3:56:12 PM] Emeth 141: It actually indicates the JCCJ cosmic twin logos as what Thuban calls the Cosmic Core
[3:56:29 PM] Emeth 141: It is also the LoFaB of 'eternal damnation'
[3:57:20 PM] Emeth 141: Where all false images must burn in their non existent state, meaning they cannot express as waveforms any longer, as 'spirits' either angelic or demonic
[3:57:41 PM] Emeth 141: They are literally 'trapped' in the physicality of the Cosmic Cores
[3:58:16 PM] Emeth 141: This is the Lake of Fire and Brimstone
[3:58:48 PM] Emeth 141: The Fire being the femme fatale as the SheHe and the Brimstone the homme fatale as the HeShe
[4:00:19 PM] Emeth 141: The cosmic femaleness is Christ Jesus as a left side 'female messiah' universal and the maleness is Christ Jesus as right side 'Christos'
[4:01:12 PM] Emeth 141: Christos is the cosmic office, earlier known as Moses and Thoth and Hermes and Mercury and as the 'Teacher of Righteousness' say in the Dead Sea Scrolls
[4:01:59 PM] Emeth 141: This 'office of the prophet' is also known as Melchizedek in the OT and as Melchisedec in the NT
[4:02:47 PM] Emeth 141:

Genesis 37:9 - King James Version (KJV)
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

[4:03:32 PM] Emeth 141: This code relates to the birth of 'Baby Jesus' in the 2nd coming in Revelation.12
[4:04:12 PM] Emeth 141: See, the ascended and transfigured 'Old Jesus form' becomes rewombed in the 'New Eve' as the 'Mother of the Stars'
[4:04:43 PM] Emeth 141: It relates to the many posts I shared on the forums
[4:05:29 PM] Emeth 141: About the 3 generations in one bodyform to heal the asymmetries of the old creation in Genesis
[4:06:01 PM] Emeth 141: The New Eve as Lilith and as a waveform replacing the sexually dependent Old Eve
[4:07:39 PM] mel: arr
[4:11:32 PM] mel: ok
[4:11:49 PM] mel: heres two sites
[4:11:55 PM] mel: where i plugged in my name
[4:11:57 PM] mel: http://www.gematrix.org/?ref=ca&word=melissa
[4:11:59 PM] mel: is the first
[4:12:04 PM] *** mel sent melissaq.pdf ***
[4:12:11 PM] mel: here is the second
[4:15:28 PM] *** mel sent hebrewmelq.pdf ***
[4:16:12 PM] Emeth 141: Well I do not adhere to the qabala system here
[4:16:23 PM] mel: yeah
[4:16:29 PM] Emeth 141: Your name Melissa in the extended Pythagorean adds to 78 not 82 or 201 as in your other file system
[4:16:49 PM] mel: i want to know what to keep and what to discard
[4:16:53 PM] Emeth 141: 82=Armageddon=Dragon Made=Omega King=Get Fucked and so on
[4:17:45 PM] Emeth 141: Many use the Hebrew or adjusted Greek forms yes. But they have not 26 letters in their alphabets see this?
[4:17:51 PM] mel: yes
[4:17:54 PM] mel: 22
[4:18:19 PM] Emeth 141: I use Arabic-Pythagorean because it carries 26 alphanumerics and they can reduce to the 9 root reductions
[4:18:36 PM] Emeth 141: 7-series is 7-16-25
[4:18:46 PM] Emeth 141: 8-series is 8-17-26
[4:19:04 PM] Emeth 141: 9-series completes the alphaomega in 9-18-27
[4:19:40 PM] Emeth 141: So the beginning of A=1 becomes ended in Z=26 with A*=27 as the New start
[4:19:53 PM] Emeth 141: But as you know many systems - your choice
[4:20:35 PM] Emeth 141: Thuban uses the new Pythagorean as a part of the Isaac Code
[4:21:23 PM] Emeth 141: The Isaac Code relates to God's promise to 'bless Abraham and Sarah' in their Son Isaac and not Ishmael
[4:21:38 PM] Emeth 141: This is at the root of Middle Eastern politics by the way
[4:22:12 PM] Emeth 141: ISAAC = IS AAC = IS AA*C = IS ABC
[4:22:43 PM] Emeth 141: So the bible indicates that the old Hebrew codes can or will be anglosaxonised
[4:23:17 PM] Emeth 141: This is my understanding and adherence. Everyone is free to adhere to ones choices or even create one's own gematria
[4:24:19 PM] Emeth 141: A*=B as the ABC...XYZA*B*C*...X*Y*Z* etc in the multidimensional extended sense and number counts in one-to-one correrspondences
[4:25:15 PM] Emeth 141: So setting Z=A as the 26th letter renders the 27th as the new A and the 28th as the new B
[4:25:53 PM] Emeth 141: A and B interchange in the root reducibility of the primary series
[4:26:46 PM] Emeth 141: In Hebrew you have no vowels and they use numbers and as there are 5 vowels in the Arabic with A the first one you transform the 22 letter alphabet into the arabic alphabet of 26 letters in such a way
[4:27:54 PM] Emeth 141: There is a code in the scriptures, which says, that the 'old kingdom of Israel' will be transferred to another kingdom, because the old kingdom was unprofitable to God
[4:28:04 PM] Emeth 141: I will try to find it
[4:28:37 PM] mel: okay
[5:03:14 PM] Emeth 141:

Matthew 21:42-44 - King James Version (KJV)
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

[5:06:49 PM] mel: thats it
[5:07:04 PM] mel: its mentioned over and over, the unprofitable
[5:13:21 PM] mel: thank you tony
[5:13:33 PM] mel: gotta let this marinate more
[5:14:11 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, some background info for you, which might help you Honeybee
[5:14:37 PM] mel: it does help
[5:14:47 PM] Emeth 141: Nice to hear

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Jorgelito - Posted Sep 3rd 2013

Re On the Universal Gematria

Emeth141, what colloquial name is given (I have a hunch you know this stuff) to before ENERGY, before ABSTRACTION, before ARCHETYPES, before UNIVERSE?
In my mind it's that empty, open spaces, open channels, wide frequencies prevailing, staring into space, captured in wonder, nothing on my mind and experiencing things themselves. -- feeling and state of mind -- when I'm not actively doing anything - not actively feeling, not actively thinking, not actively intending.
Daydreaming, smelling the flowers, being in love, waking up from a good nap and having a cool shower on a hot summer day are close neighbors to this space.
I'm looking for a name that's true, beautiful and down-to-earth, poetic, resonating universally and metaphor at most any level of understanding to that which it is. What it describes is something that's practically nothing but feels like everything.
Similar to virtual particles. They're only around for a very short time; it's like they're nothing at all. If the metaphor is true, then a way to see BEFORE there is light (along with the name) would be by the tracks it leaves.

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miii - Posted Sep 4th 2013

you heard it too



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Jorgelito - Posted Sep 4th 2013

Miii, do you have any good names for this? A name everyone would know in their own way what it was.

I just thought of an example. Someone coined the phrase "The Upstairs Department" to mean soul, Spirit, Higher Power, IAM Presence or God. Everyone knows what it means even though it means different things to different people.​

This is about a space where there's nothing going on in our head, but we are connected to who we are. It has one name but refers to many things, all true.

The tracks left behind from being in this space (sitting in a tree, rafting down a creek, talking about the weather with my neighbor) are feelings of being alive & being in love (in love with life). But I think all of this has occurred from an event so fleeing it was not detected. The fire that we are moves into world -- afterwards creating healing energies of love.
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If this be the case, what I look for is the word universally understood for this fire, this spark, this root of our being.

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miii - Posted Sep 4th 2013
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it has been ineffable to me most times.
I guess the closest word i've come to is, "Being."

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Jorgelito - Posted Sep 4th 2013

Being is not a bad choice. Most think of being something -- being married, being rich, being stupid. Being the way you use it is different. It is presence. You feel it in a church, in a cemetery and in a redwood grove, It is same when I have an awareness that incorporates "heaven & Earth" and at the same time --

Example. Having a fierce argument (Earth) with someone I love (heaven) and loving that person at the very same time.
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Example. Traveling on a train in the black of night (heaven) you hear clak clak clak clak of the track (Earth); the sound accentuates the stillness of the night.
Example. Sailing. Sailing is very hands on (Earth) and connects to the four winds, the four rivers and the four directions (heaven).
Presence (being itself) seems to happen when there's a coupling of some sort -- for example, male and female, inside and outside -- experienced simultaneously
It may accompany an edgy, alive, grainy feeling like being on a razor's edge This is because it has no edges and no boundaries.

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miii - Posted Sep 4th 2013

1, 2, 3. yet, three is dynamic.




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Jorgelito - Posted Sep 4th 2013

Miii, my Spanish composition teacher said to always give three example to each point, And the composition itself should clearly have three parts -- introduction, body & conclusion. She said it was magical.




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miii - Posted Sep 4th 2013

indeed it is. =)​