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    JesterTerrestrial - Posted Jul 3rd 2013

    WELL I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME KIND OF CONTACT!!! STAR CRUISERS SURE WOULD BE GREAT!!!

    I have observed several light orbs ships flying in the skies above me with my own eyes so I tend to pay attention to the many ufo videos showing up on the internet from locations all over the world. Many of these videos show what appears to be light ships. Glowing orbs and other shapes. What are they? Are they 4d light ships in a state of half transit? Will we finally get to see them materialize fully into our dimensional space and be able to fly them. Are they consciously connected to our own penial glands as reverse 2D shadows? Really im in the middle of the mix of the riddles and the tricks. So since I have been intentional manipulated from various government agencies who really are souls in human bodies acting as role for organizations that have agendas some unknown and secret usually aimed at maintaining their control of money and perceived power of control. Thats ok I am stronger then them all put together and they can not stop merlins magic! In fact if they would have worked with us when we asked nice years ago it would be a very different world. However they decided they wanted to steall what was given to them for free and cant handle the phiyer power and as said the world loves money more they they love god!!!

    So back to star cruisers and how do we get access to them, well the only thing I can do is put the intention out that i want these types of events to happen as much as i want the framework and information required to actually archive eternal life as well as being to keep our bodies young and healthy. CAN WE REALLY LIVE FOREVER!!! It has been said that after the reconfiguration there would be changes and i too have been experiencing the energetic shifts that appear to be in the higher dimensions! I also do not know how things will unfold but i do know that i am activly dreamworking while i am here now and awake and aware of the changes we just live through.

    So ya last few weeks are intense. Heck the last few years have been and i have shared many of my experiences related to the cosmic events and reconfiguration. I do feel a great sence of completion and look forward to what ever manifestations occur next including extra terrestrial contact and star cruisers! So i hold this frequency in my minds eye while trying to function on this earth and make a few money dollars to play along with whats left of the broken economy. i am working on a new plan perhaps related to marketing and really think were going to need a thunban conference to help explain the changes in the world and the reasons that the humans are mentally melting down!!! In the very near future...like coming days...so even if you feel your work is done i suspect there will be another level of work required and will be revealed to you very soon.

    NEVER GIVE UP!!!
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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Jul 3rd 2013

    Tony - there is a secondary vayeb set of dates --
    (which is utlized by The Holy Men & The Holy Women
    which sits over 27 Dec, 28 Dec, 29 Dec, 30 Dec, and, 31 Dec
    aka as, 0 Vayeb, 1 Vayeb, 2 Vayeb, 3 Vayeb, 4 Vayeb
    when the year was taken from an ancient year of 360 days
    to The Gregorian Calendar
    - it was the annual medicine dance
    and, it was done to protect these dates
    from The Catholic Church, having control over them
    i know about it, because most pagan, neo-pagan, tribal people do those last 5 days of the year,
    at the 'holy men', 'holy women', 'priest' or 'priestess' levels,
    this is NOT commonly known information,
    that the mass populus would be aware of
    ~ Susan Lynne Schwenger

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Jul 4th 2013

    The Original Story of the 5 Vayeb of the Mayan Haab Calender as Creation Mythos of Egypt

    THE13thBRiDGE-SUSAN - Posted on July 2nd, 2013



    Tony - there is a secondary vayeb set of dates --
    (which is utlized by The Holy Men & The Holy Women
    which sits over 27 Dec, 28 Dec, 29 Dec, 30 Dec, and, 31 Dec
    aka as, 0 Vayeb, 1 Vayeb, 2 Vayeb, 3 Vayeb, 4 Vayeb
    when the year was taken from an ancient year of 360 days
    to The Gregorian Calendar
    - it was the annual medicine dance
    and, it was done to protect these dates
    from The Catholic Church, having control over them
    i know about it, because most pagan, neo-pagan, tribal people do those last 5 days of the year,
    at the 'holy men', 'holy women', 'priest' or 'priestess' levels,
    this is NOT commonly known information,
    that the mass populus would be aware of
    ~ Susan Lynne Schwenger

    Well Susan, the origin of the five Vayeb goes back much further into the prehistory of the creation mythologies.
    The Story revolves around the Egyptian mythology, which then became 'adopted' by the Greeks and so made its way into the Western cultures and including the scriptural encodings.
    The story goes, that the original creator RaHaR could not manifest or recreate itself, because it was sexually unified as a Egyptian trinity.

    This became the story of the 'Evil Serpent Apep', who is simply the selfimage of Ra as the Left Side as aR in the Mirror as His own Brother Image as the Right Side.
    This became the Ra+H+aR parts as the left Solar Eye of Ra and the Right Lunar Eye of aR joined together in the Mirror of the H.
    This Mirror became the 'Mirror of {H}athor' as the Pat{H} of the 'Mystery and is also known as the 11th Sephirot of the Daath in the Hebrew Kabbalah of the 'Tree of Life' (the Tree of Eternal Life in Eden as the Djed of Osiris).

    So the 'problem' of the Sungod became the problem of the Greek Chaos, who could not 'make sense' of its own existence.
    The 'Circle of the Chaos' so became the Platonic Cycle year or the 360 degrees in a circle as the Haab of 360 Kin without the 5 Vayeb or 'Evil days'.

    RaHaR are five parts in R+a+H+a+R and the left eye and the right eye changed places, which is encoded as the story of Ra being angry with his own self image as a 'evil brother' Apep; throwing his right eye into the mirror, where the 'Evil serpent' could be seen.

    Now this transformed into the 'Egyptian trinity' of Left Lunar Eyed Thot{H} as the 'Uraeus of Anubis' being imaged in the 'Mirror of Hat{H}or' in the 'Right Solar Eye' of {H}orus with the {H}athor forming the third part of the Bridge between the two eyes as the Pat{H} of Pta{H} of the 'Egyptan Mysteries' and 'Secrets of the Initiations'; say as the 'Freemason symbols', which are all part of the 'Egyptian Cartouche symbolisms, referring to the 'Memphis God of Creation Ptah with his 'wife' Hathor.

    So RaHaR could not reproduce itself, except it lost its cosmic androgenous nature and this became the story of losing one eye to the dartkness of the Moon, but keeping the eye of the Light as the 'All Seeing Eye of Horus' (of the Hamarkhis, meaning of the Horizon of the Rising and Setting of the Sun'. This then became the 'Mythology of Lucifer' as the Morning Star of Venus, also being the 'Evening Star' of Aphrodite aka Lucifera aka Lilith in particular contexts of the JCCJ primordial cosmic twinship.

    This twinship in the original Egyptian lore is made manifest in Shu, the Father of the Sky with his twin-wife Tefnut, the Mother of the Earth and is symbolised in the Isis glyph of the number 2 in her 'Fire element' of the 11 and the 10+10=20 twinship, which is unified and so unable to reproduce in a sexual manner.

    This unification is the 360 degree circle of the Zodiac and for the Egyptians projected the river Nile AS the Milky Way galaxy and as the Ouroboros Serpent of Creation, also depicted in a serpent twinship in the bible as the Behemoth and the Leviathan in the Book of Job.
    So the three aspects of the RaHaR became the three gods of the Egyptian ennead as Horus of the Right-Solar-Left and Thoth of the Left-Lunar-Right and linked in their Mirror-Bridge as Ptah-Hathor in betwixt .

    Thoth as the new right eye of the RaHaR so devised a plan to 'break the cosmic androgyny' apart and this took the form of the Shu-Tefnut unity separating as a new and mirrored Geb-Nut cosmic identity, say as the third Generation from the first two unified 'family legacies' or 'celestial inheritances' of RaHaR and Shu-Tefnut.
    So then Shu as Father Sky became Geb as Father Earth and Tefnut as Mother Earth became Nut as Mother Sky.

    This process became the story of RaHaR playing with himherself in the 'Mirror of the Twilight Zone' and took the form of "Thoughtful' Thoth (also known as Hermes Trismegistos or as the Cosmic Christ and Messenger of the Goddogs, playing a 'game of Checkers' with Horus as HaR with RaH.
    The 'prize of the winner' of the 'black and white' or the 'darkness light' with the 'light darkness' became 5 extra degrees for the circle of the RaHaR prison and as the five letters comprising the Name of the Amen Magic.

    RaHaR so doubled as the encrypted 'Ten degrees of the sun dial of Ahaz' shown below as the Hebrew encoding of this Egyptian creation mythos. In this, the Hebrew 'King Hezekiah' becomes the 'King of Babylon' identified as the 'Fallen Lucifer' in Isaiah.14.12 and Ezekiel.28.14-19. The 'sickness' of the 'King of Babylon' is healed in the Incarnation of the Logos AS the Luciferian Dawning Star and as can be scripturally 'proven in the encodings, which define the One giving the 'Morning Star' also BEING this same 'Morning Star' in the 'Lion of Judah', encoded in the GOT (Lambdin):




    Gospel of Thomas (Lambdin):
    (7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

    (52) His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets spoke in Israel, and all of them spoke in you."
    He said to them, "You have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."

    (108) Jesus said, "He who will drink from my mouth will become like me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed to him."

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    Revelation.2.2.17;27-29: All KJV)
    17He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

    27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
    28And I will give him the morning star.
    29He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    Revelation 19:12
    His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

    Revelation.22.16:
    16"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches.
    I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."


    2Peter.1.19-21:
    19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.
    20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
    21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


    Isaiah 14

    1For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
    2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the Lord for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
    3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,
    4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
    5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
    6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
    7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
    8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
    9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
    10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
    11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
    12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
    13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
    15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
    16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
    17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
    18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
    19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
    20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
    21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
    22 For I will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the Lord.
    23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the Lord of hosts.
    24 The Lord of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:
    25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
    26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.
    27 For the Lord of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?
    28 In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden.
    29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
    30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.
    31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
    32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the Lord hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.


    Ezekiel 28:14-19

    14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
    15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
    16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
    17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
    18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
    19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.


    Genesis.7.1-5:
    1 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
    2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
    3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
    4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
    5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.





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    {1=Osiris; 3=Horus; 5=Thoth; 8=Ptah} as the Noahic male 'clean sexes' and {2=Isis; 4=Bast; 7=Nephthys} as the Noahic female 'clean sexes' with transmuter {7-8} allowing the 'unclean' androgenous sexes {6=Hathor and 9=Anubis} to manifest 10=Set of the Root Kingdom or Malkuth to transform into HaR from the 1=RaH of the Crown or Kether}.

    Daath as the 11th 'Secret Path of Initiation' then mirrors Set in the Hathor-Anubis Twinship mirror and in the particular central Hathor-Mirror of the Solar Eye of Rah-Osiris and the Lunar Eye of the Uraeus as the Son of Set and Nephthys (with Osiris also as Nephthyses' Lover) in Anubis of the doublesidedness of the Divine Androgyny or the Alchemy of the Hermaphrodite as the 'Child of Hermes and Aphrodite' aka Mercury and Venus in the dragonomy of Hermenia with Vulcan in the doubling of the 12 of the Old 'clean sexyness' to 24 Elders of the New 'unclean' sexyness.

    Thoughtful Thoth 'won' the 'Board Game' against 'himself' as the RaHaR trinity and so allowed the 'infertile' 2nd Generation of the Egyptian Twinship to transform into the 3rd generation of sexual reproduction in Geb with Nut to produce the Egyptian Ennead in the 'Kabbalistic Tree of Life'.

    {1=Osiris; 2=Isis; 3=Horus, the Younger; 4=Bastet; 5=Thoth; 6=Hathor; 7=Nephthys; 8=Ptah; 9=Anubis; 10=Set} or associative interwoven and interrelated 'Egyptian deified identies' as 'placeholders' for the offices of the ciphers or numbers or cartouchian symbols and semiotiks.

    R-aHa-R so became:
    R=Old Ra as 'Horus the Elder' and manifested as 1=Osiris as the Khu of the Spirit in the Djed of the 'Crown of the Kether in the Tree of Life'
    a=Hathor as the 'Daughter of Ra' and as the Left Solar Eye of the Wadjet-Uraeus
    H= Ptah as the 'Mirror-Brother' or Creator God and as the 'Cosmic Architect'
    a=Thoth as the 'Son of Ra' as the Right Lunar Eye of the Uraeus-Wadjet
    R=Old Apep as the 'Image of Old Ra' in the Mirror of aHa and manifesting as the brother of Osiris in 10=Set as the Khat of the Body in the 'Root of the Malkuth of the Tree of Life' and mirroring the sexchange of Set into a 'Sister' of Rah as Har in the evenness of the cipher 10 in the kabbalistic root and as compared to the oddness of the number 1 in the kabbalistic crown.

    Now the 360 degrees became associated as the 5x72=360 degrees with the 5 degrees, each assigned to one of the 5 letters as a Doubled day in the partition 5 days+5 nights=5 Days or 5 days of 12 hours each plus 5 nights of 12 hours each make up the 5 Days of the Vayeb of the Maya and transform the old 360 Prophetic Cycle-Degree year into its 365 day approximation of the subsequently invented calendars of the terrestrial civilisations and cultures.

    The Hebrews and say from the 'Baylonian Captivity' of so 600BC onwards, then made this creation account their own in the Torah and then the Greek creation mythos adopted this Egyptian opus as the Story of the Chaos dividing into Day and Night as Aether and Erebus and the Titans and the Olympians and similar labellings, from which then the Sky Father Uranus or Ouranus bec ame enteined with Gaea, the Earth Mother and so on and on and as detailed in earlier messages found in the Thuban dragon libraries and almanacs.


    eyeofabraxas. eye_to_eye. iwadjet.
    Right Eye of Abraxas Atum (Re-Hamarkhis Sun) Horus the Elder of the Horizon----------------------Left Eye of Wadjet (Thoth-Moon) of the Golden Uraeus​

    RaH Versus ApeP as HaR the Image of RaHaR in the Mirror of Hathor.

    The Right White Solar Eye of RaH for Horus of the Horizon as the 3 and the Left Black Lunar Eye of HaR for Hathor of the Mirror as the 6 and Imaged in the Right Eye of Uraeus in Anubis as the 9.
    carpyramid. carhathor. carsphinx.

    carthoth. carptah. carhorus.

    caranubis. uraeus. caruraeus.

    Anubis Khaibit- Shadow of Uraeus

    Future Shadows of the Past

    "A most wondrous thing the Shadow is, a redeemer in all to succour;
    it can go where the light cannot abide, seemingly banished, it is not.
    For where the light is, the darkness flees, no longer present to endure;
    so to become illuminated is its destined journey and its troubled lot.

    But without the light, no Shadow can be cast, its such a splendid key;
    the dimensions reduce in space from three to two and all in just the one.
    Betwixt the light and the darkness it is and part of both for all to see;
    the Shadow of the body, does it not merge all in its rule under the sun?

    Whatsoever can cast a Shadow, must be a most wondrous thing to relay;
    as nature's very own offspring, the young ones grow towards their final goal.
    Enabled to bring peace to so many things appearing apart and so far away;
    the reconciliation for the suffering body with its spirit and its scattered soul."

    Isaiah 38:7-9
    7 And this shall be a sign unto thee from the Lord, that the Lord will do this thing that he hath spoken;
    8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.
    9 The writing of Hezekiah king of Judah, when he had been sick, and was recovered of his sickness:


    This account and explanation then will go a long way to solve the 'Conspiracy theories' of the Nabsers for the ancient Egyptian Eyes, that can indeed see and the old Atlantian-Lemurian Ears that can indeed hear and remember the stories they themselves created in the annals of previously incarnated historical agendas.

    Emeth 141 on July 4th, 2013 and the Thuban Independence period of the Cosmic DragonHood for a 'newborn' race from the stars aka the 'StarHumanity'.


    Addendum from the Dragon Libraries:

    The Kabbalah and the Tree of Life in the Emerald Tablet

    As this site is concerned with archetypes and symbols universally applicable; this thread on Project Avalon might be of interest to some readers of the Thuban materials.
    It is relatively 'primitive' and 'attacks' the 'authority' of the King James Version of the scriptures in a typical NABS fashion of modus operandi - later on in this linked thread; but nevertheless the basic premise of the 'Garden of Eden' story is valid in the deeper cosmogony and the representations are 'nice'. So I decided to share it here. I shall add a 'far deeper' decoding of this 'story' in association with the 'Emerald Tablet' of Moses and Hermes Trismegistos and some elementary aspects of the Egyptian mythos and the 'Clean- and Unclean sexes in Noah's Ark' for anyone's discernment and comparison.


    Tonyblue


    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...of-what-it-REALLY-was-about.-Once-and-for-all-
    16th of August 2011
    Edward Alexander
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    icon3. ADAM & EVE: The true story of what it REALLY was about. Once and for all!
    Here is the true story about Adam & Eve and what that all is about. Once and for all.

    Were Adam and Eve being "tricked" by the serpent to eat the Fruit of Knowledge from the Tree of Life - or maybe not?

    What they really did, and what that symbolizes, is that they lived under the rule of a Lesser God, a Evil Creator, which we still do, but they discovered the Qabalistic Tree of Life - it was not an actual real physical tree or apple, that was symbolism - and they gained access to the Fruit of Knowledge from discovering their spiritual aspects, and thus became aware of the difference between Good and Evil and themselves etc. The Serpent represents the Kundalini Rising which is an effect of Illumination and Enlightenment and which is needed to receive the "Fruit of Knowledge" from the "Tree of Life". The Serpent was NOT Evil, it was quite the opposite, the God of the Bible was the Evil one, and god filled with rage when he saw that the people represented by Adam and Eve had found the "secret" to their own existence, spiritual reality, their Soul, and thus ultimately a path to be Free from the Physical Prison planet they were in.

    So as summary:
    Adam & Eve = Mankind

    Tree = Kabbalistic Tree of Life

    Apple = Fruit of Knowledge - symbol of the understanding gained from "climbing" the tree of life.

    Serpent = Kundalini energ / spirit, which ascends ("climbs the tree") to reveal the Fruit of Knowledge (truth, understanding).

    The whole story of Adam & Eve represents mankinds practice with the Kabbala, a spiritual system for development and insights, and what the results of such practice will be - the ability to understand more ("knowing the difference between good and evil", as per the bible, meaning being more conscious and aware of ones own actions and thus able to get on the "right path"). It is an esoteric and symbolic text, not meant to be taken literal as actual events or the way the story is presented.

    Below is an illustration of this Kabbalistic Tree of Life, and the different parts it consists of, where you start at bottom and work ("climb", as the serpent on its way up the tree) up towards the top (where you reach "The Fruit of Knowledge" - Highest Wisdom).



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    And here is a video introduction briefly explaining the meaning of the different parts of the Tree of Life:

    Source:
    View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFcE31vnTbM



    What all this really means, is that "God", an evil tyrant entity/deity NOT the Real God above All, wanted mankind to stay ignorant in the lowest part of the Tree of Life, only being present here in the physical world, and not gain the experience and understanding of all aspects above which would make mankind free. That's why this biblical "God" got angry when Mankind discovered the secret of how to gain this Understanding all the way to the top of the Tree of Life, where the Fruit of Knowledge is.

    Hope this cleared up all these misunderstandings about the Adam & Eve story and what its symbolizing.


    As the linked video is unavailable, I have the missing one with one I found on you tube, fyi - Emeth 141



    zohar.

    Friday, April 15th, 2011: Fates, Magamud and Tonyblue on the Sephirot and the symbols of the 'Tree of Life' in conjunction with Anubis as the 9th sephirotic emanation.
    [1:11:11 PM] fates---: This is great, I am reading this from my yard now. Nice soft grass and night out
    [1:11:57 PM] fates---: I sat down a moment ago and talked through this with my higher self
    [1:12:41 PM] fates---: I am not in denial anymore of the left and right linkage as two to one
    [1:12:55 PM] fates---: Once I know of the process
    [1:13:04 PM] fates---: And symbology
    [1:13:40 PM] fates---: Makes more sense now
    [1:15:52 PM] fates---: And it's amazing how this illudes people. Cultists have been trying to solve and ritualize a puzzle such as this for many generations
    [1:18:28 PM] fates---: Finding your other self within. As Anubis searches for his right eye
    [1:19:44 PM] fates---: Eye of Horus
    [1:19:47 PM] fates---: Lol
    [1:21:16 PM] fates---: One year
    [1:38:13 PM] eric billig: (sun)
    [1:43:52 PM] eric billig: Godzilla metaphor in Japan
    [1:44:16 PM] eric billig: their own unconscious prophecy
    [1:44:33 PM] Tonyblue:

    {Excerpts from the E-book: 'Where is the God of Science? - The Death of the Supernaturality Virus!}

    Logan Antico:
    "This would have been the Egyptian form of gnosis, the 'Teacher of Righteousness' in the form of Thoth transmuting into Hermes Trismegistos in parallel with Amon-Ra becoming the 'One true God' of Ikhnaton and Nefertiti and absorbing the qualities of Thoth and Ptah in the process.
    The symbol of freemasonry are the encircled 'Mason's Tools', which are associated with the hieroglyphic 'cartouche' of the 'Ren' or name of Ptah as the archetype for Ra as the universal spirit Atum or Aton, which had built and created the universe.
    And so the Western esoteric traditions are attempting to play the role of 'Joseph in Egypt' as the cosmic 'Teacher of Righteousness' initiating the ones, who are able to guard and wisely use the knowledge of the true understanding."

    Robert Sceptico:
    "Furthermore, Ptah is said to have been married to Sekhmet, who was a lionheaded goddess and the daughter of Ra as the symbolic right or solar eye of Ra; the lunar left eye being the 'all seeing eye' of Horus, who in the third generation of the Egyptian family of gods married Sekhmet as the bullheaded goddess Hathor, symbolised by a mirror.
    Originally, Ra or Atum thought of himself as righteyed as herself and in using a mirror, he created an image in the lefteyed serpent Apep, who refused to play any games with his image as himself however.

    In his displeasure, Ra threw his right solar eye at Apep, who had to image this in his left lunar eye.
    But this allowed a second generation as the twinship of lefteyed Shu and righteyed Tefnut in the Egyptian Lion of Truth to become born in a release of creative energy of reproduction and through Ra masturbating to release his seed in her as Apep's image and so fertilising the SkyEarth.
    The righteyed Geb became the Earth and the lefteyed Nut became the lifted Sky and then they created the third generation in the lefteyed Osiris and the righteyed Isis, doubled in a mirrored twinship in the righteyed Set and the lefteyed Nephthys.

    The fourth generation so could intermarry for genetic variablity in the doubled twinship.
    Osiris, as the Djed or 'Tree of Life' became an archetype for the number 1 as the Khu or 'Spirit' and Isis became the number 2 as the Ab or the 'Throne of the Heart'.
    Their children became numbers 3 and 4 as the righteyed Horus of the 'All Seeing Eye' and the 'Spiritual Body' of the Sahu; and the lefteyed Bast or Pasht of the 'Sistrum' in the Ba of the 'Soul'.

    Now Set and Nephthys also had a child in Anubis, the Khaibit or Shadow of the Jackal-headed 'Opener of the Way' and the 'Guide of the Dead; but the story goes, that the fatherhood of Anubis is in dispute.
    Osiris is said to have had a loveaffair with both of his 'sisters' Isis and Nephthys to reproduce his own lefteyedness in a son to an also lefteyed mother.

    And so Anubis was born, knowing that he was lefteyed after his mother Nephthys, but he was initially confused because he could not image the righteyedness of his supposed father Set, there was an uncleanliness about his image as the image of his father, imaging the lefteyedness of his father's brother Osiris.
    Anubis was like a shadow between the right eye imaging the left as well as the other way around.
    But as Anubis pondered his origins, he came across his grandparents testimony and it dawned upon him, that the ever repeating generations of the cleanly sexed oneeyednesses could be made impure in stopping the generations going on and on infinitely.

    Anubis went to his grandparents and asked them if they would be willing to extend the fourth generation in archetypical blueprint and they agreed and their parents agreed also.
    And so righteyed Geb became renamed as Tehuti or Thoth as the number 5 and as the Ibis or 'Mind' and symbolised in the Caduceus, as the 'Lord of Time', 'Keeper of the Akashic Records', Scribe to the Gods' and 'Patron of the Healers'.

    Anubis' lefteyed grandmother Nut became the archetypical number 6 as Maat, symbolised in a 'White Feather of Truth', given to her by her mother Tefnut, renamed as the stargoddess Seshat; because she had existed before the Sky was born as Nut and the Earth was born as Geb.
    Now the legacy of Seshat was the right solar eye of Tefnut and Seshat could now give that legacy to her granddaughter Maat in a renaming of lefteyed Maat as the righteyed Sekhmet.
    And so the Sekhem or 'Power' was given to the hieroglyph of the number 6 and the symbol of the mirror, reflecting the right eye in the left eye and vice versa.

    Now righteyed Thoth could relate as archetypical brother to lefteyed Osiris and righteyed Set and lefteyed Maat could relate as archetypical sister to righteyes Isis and lefteyed Nephthys.
    Righteyed Horus was however matched with his lefteyed twinsister Bast and lefteyed Anubis had no righteyed companion whatsoever.

    And Anubis found the key in the testimony of his greatgrandparents Shu and Tefnut, the leonine twinship of the Egyptian Truth.
    After the SkyEarth of Shu and the EarthSky of Tefnut had been created by Ra's seed in his imagination; the righteyed Tefnut and the lefteyed Shu were as one and Ra decreed that they could not reproduce to be separated yet again as he had been before he had created the heshe-shehe duality in one; that is a circle of 360 days could not be broken any more in the linearity of the serpent Apep.

    But righteyed Ra had looked at lefteyed Apep in the commonly created righteyed-lefteyed ShuTefnut mirror and they both had seen a righteyed Thoth and a lefteyed Maat as their potential grandchildren in the mirror.
    And righteyed Thoth was willing to play a game of checkers chess with Ra, imagining to be the image of the image as a lefteyed goddess of the mirror, also known as Hathor or Athyr, and being the 'Goddess of Beauty and Love' and the 'Patroness of Womanhood' in Ra's imagination.
    And Ra fell madly in love with his own imagination as herself as Hathor and so both, the solar right eye of the day and the lunar left eye of the night became extended as one part in 72 or 10 degrees in 360 degrees in a new cycle, and those five days allowed Geb and Nut to be born as the children of Shu and Tefnut, separated from the oneness of the 360 degrees for five days and five nights."

    Logan Antico:
    "And exactly this is coded in the bible as a mysterious passage noone, to my knowledge, has ever deciphered in a logical correspondence to the facts:

    Isaiah.38.7-8:
    "And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he has spoken; Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sundial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down."


    Then Ahaz is symbolised by the sungod Ra, for AHAZ=1+8+1+26=36=18+18=RR=GOD+10 and 10 times 36 being the closure of the circle again."

    Robert Sceptico:
    "A nice example for how the mythologies of ancient Egypt are found in the bible, if one can only decode the mysterious passages through omniscience.
    And Ra is Yahwhey the God of the Hebrews, just as it is the God of Ikhnaton and Nefertiti.
    But 10 children became born, five for the day and five for the night, all together constituting a new creation; the first five children being Osiris with Isis and Set with Nephthys and an archetype, who could combine the duality of right and left in one.
    This mutation is the Egyptian Christ in a starborn Horus, who can be said to be in the womb of Isis, before she became pregnant by Osiris.

    And there you have the continuity of the ten archetypes in Hathor becoming the lefteyed number 6 relative to the righteyed Horus as the number 3.
    Bast as the lefteyed archetypical number 4 becomes the lovematch for a righteyed Anubian image, who as the 'Shadow' perfectly mirrors the duality of the number 6 as the archetype of the number 9.
    The number 7 is then taken by Nephthys as the 'Sacred Chalice', containing the seeds of both the lefteyed Osiris and the righteyed Set to bring forth the 'Shadow' of the 'Starborn Horus' in the Sahu of the 'Spiritual Body'; the 'Physical Body' or Khat, being the archetypical number 10=1+0 in Set. The lefteyed 'Doubleseeded Soul' of Nephthys then is known as the Ka.
    The five shadows for Osiris, Isis, Nephthys, Set and Horus so become Geb/Thoth, Nut/Maat/Bast, Tefnut/Sekhmet, Shu/Ptah and Anubis in the order specified.

    The righteyed Stargoddess Seshat as Tefnut is matched to the lefteyed Ptah as Shu in the undifferentiated SkyEarth, manifesting as righteyed Sekhmet and lefteyed Ptah in the Memphian Family. Righteyed Sekhmet becomes lefteyed Hathor in relationship with righteyed Horus, who is also represented as lefteyed Ptah through his 'starborn' status and doubling the archetypical number 6 in a bisexuality reflected in the Anubian number 9.

    The righteyed Anubis is matched to lefteyed Bast in archetypes 9 and 4; and the lefteyed Anubis is matched to righteyed Seshat via the twoeyed 'starsisterbrother' Sekhmet-Anubis in the mirror of 69.
    Sekhmet's 6 interchanges with Hathor's 6 in Seshat's 6 and matches in the righteyed Horus coupling with the lefteyed Hathor and lefteyed Horus coupling with righteyed Sekhmet in 3 and in 6.
    The lefteyed Anubis so becomes the 'real shadow' for the 'unreal' lefteyed Horus and the 'real shadow' of 'unreal' righteyed Anubis becomes the lefteyed Horus in the mirror of the 69=96.
    Merging the 'starry twinships' then results in a twoeyed Horus lovematched to a twoeyed Hathor-Sekhmet and Anubis matched to a twoeyed Seshat-Bast.
    The righteyed Anubis is also the righteyed Thoth and the lefteyed Bast is also the lefteyed Maat.
    Ptah is the archetypical number 8 and the hieroglyphic Ren or 'Name' as the Logos or Word of Christ and the 'Amen' of the Egyptian pharaohs."

    Logan Antico:
    "This is the number-letter code in some hieroglyphic form; say you define the archetypical number 6 in a right-left-right, or even-odd-even sequence in: Sekhmet*-Hathor-Sekhmet=24-15-6; then you can define the archetypes in resonating letters of the alphabet; here in X-O-F.
    The highest frequency is a unified principle in a 'stargoddess' say as 24 in the symbol for the Egyptian Ankh or Cross in 24=15+9=2+4=1+5=6 and the number 15 becoming a starsymbol for Sirius, associated with Hathor's mirror say and the numeral 6 representing the named goddesses in its archetype."

    Robert Sceptico:
    "Indeed, and you find the reason for the continuing Egyptian mythology, which tells the story of Set becoming jealous of his brother Osiris's popularity with the Egyptians as a God of fertility and of being the God of the Spirit or Khu; Set being the God of the Body or Khat.
    So Set, with 72 companions builds a box or sarcophagus as a pretend gift for Osiris and invites his brother to a banquet in his honour; during which Set asks Osiris to lay in the sarcophagus to see if it fits his size.
    When in the sarcophagus, Set shut the coffer's lid and threw it into the Nile, where Osiris drowned; and his corpse was carried to Byblos, where the lamenting Isis found it near a tamarisk tree and then brought it back into Egypt. Set then cut Osiris into 14 pieces and caused all the pieces to be spread around Egypt."

    Logan Antico:
    "But that is the story of the Israelite concubine, being divided into 12 pieces and sent to the coast of the land for the 12 tribes to consider!"

    Robert Sceptico:
    "Have we not just said, that the Egyptian and Hebrew mythologies are closely intertwined, as can be seen in the sundial of Ahaz?!
    Anyway, Isis, with Nephthys, who has left her husband in disgust as to his dastardly deed, Thoth; and the 'shadow brothers' Horus and Anubis, seek for a way to resurrect Osiris.
    The magical loveheart of Isis, the Ibismind and Caduceus of Thoth, the 'all seeing' Hawkeye of the spiritual Horus and Anubis as 'Guide of the Dead' succeeded to find 13 of the missing pieces to put Osiris together again - only his phallus was missing, having been devoured by an Arachne-spider.
    This is a significant point in symbolising the 13th starsign of Ophiuchus the 'Serpent tamer', associated with Osiris/Orion being mapped as the transit between Taurus and Gemini (May 22-23) as the 'Sign of Arachne' as the 'Point of Orion' onto the 'Sign of Ophiuchus' (November 23-24) in the transit between Scorpio and Sagittarius as the 'Point of Ophis'.

    Meanwhile Osiris had ascended into Ra's heaven and had inseminated Isis with his intact spiritualised penis to create the righteyed and physical Horus; who would under guidance of 'his father in heaven' grow up and avenge his father in Christlike fashion."

    Logan Antico:
    "The omniscientific question know is to identify the 13 unaccounted pieces of the Osirian body.
    We define the Arachnian Phallus as RA himself, now imaged in AR as herself in the place of Apep.
    Three series of 9 numbers give 9 archetypes and 18 resonances for a 26-letter alphabet A to Z with the circle closing in the 27th letter of A*=RAH=27=HAR=GOD+1=1+DOG.

    A 1-series: 1=A/Spirit of Osiris as Khu; 10=J/Body of Set as Khat; 19=S/Winged Disk of RahaR;
    a 2-series: 2=B/Heart of Isis as Ab; 11=K/Fire of Nephthys' Duamutef; 20=T/Twinship of TefnutShu;
    a 3-series: 3=C/Body of Horus as Sahu; 12=L/Air of Ptah's Qebhsnuf; 21=U/Sphinx Harmakhis' GebNut;
    a 4-series: 4=D/Soul of Bast as Ba; 13=M/Water of Seshat's Imsety; 22=V/Maat's Scarab as Khepera;
    a 5-series: 5=E/Mind of Thoth as Ibis; 14=N/Earth of Anubis' Hapi; 23=W/Pyramid of Thoth;
    a 6-series: 6=F/Power of Sekhem as Hathor 15=O/Sirius of Hathor; 24=X/Sekhmet's Ankh as Sekhem;
    a 7-series: 7=G/Chalice of Nephthys as Ka; 16=P/Lotus of Isis's Elements; 25=Y/NutGeb's YoniPhallus;
    a 8-series: 8=H/Name of Ptah as Ren; 17=Q/Crook & Flail of Horus; 26=Z/ShuTefnut's PhallusYoni;
    a 9-series: 9=I/Shadow of Anubis as Khaibit; 18=R/Uraeus of Thoth; 27=A*/RaH as HaR.


    The separation of the sexes in three generations reduces to a unity expressed in that fourth generation, with Shu=Horus-Ptah and Geb=Anubis-Thoth and Rah=Osiris-Set, mirrored in Tefnut=Hathor- Sekhmet and Nut=Bast-Seshat-Maat and Har=Isis-Nephthys.
    The unity of Rah now allows both the rigtheyedness of Set and the lefteyedness of Osiris to become expressed in the same relativity of Rah, effectively doubling 'himself' as 'herself' and allowing Ra's old image of Apep to become transformed into the Har of Isis-Nephthys and redeeming Set, renamed as Seth in the process of completing the triune lovematches of RahHar, TefnutShu and GebNut; then expressed in the archetypical couplings of: A*BGJ=1+2+7+10=20=2=Osiris+Isis+Nephthys+Seth; CHOX= 3+8+15+24=50=Horus+Ptah+Hathor+Sekhmet; DEIM=4+5+9+13=31=4=Bast+Thoth+Anubis+Seshat.
    And to those 12 archetypes we add the two dualities of TefnutShu and GebNut for a total of 14.
    The 13 missing Osirian pieces so become the letters A, (as Rah),F,K,L,N,P,Q,R,S,V,W,Y,Z and as exactly half of the alphabet, mirrored in the available identities as shadow identities and with the Goddess Maat being identical to Bast in the 4-series, but differentiated in Seshat as 13=1+3=4."

    Robert Sceptico:
    "And considering all this, yet another scriptural riddle is solved by omniscience; do you recall the story of Noah and how he was told to divide the animals in the ark, by sevens and by twos?"

    Logan Antico:
    "Yes, the LORD made a distiction between the clean sexes and the unclean sexes; and no theologian I know of, has ever claimed to know what that all means?

    Genesis.7.1-3:
    "And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
    Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth."



    The Egyptian mythology as described here, is nothing but the Jewish Kabbalah of Ein-Sof, as the Hebrew mysticism in the Pentateuch, the first five books of Moses in the old testament of the Torah."

    Robert Sceptico:
    "Yes I knew that you would know; the redemption of the Egyptian 'Devil' Set as Seth is but the birth of Seth as the first son of Adam and Eve after the 'cursing' of Cain in Abel.
    Abstractly speaking, the Oneness of Atum=Aton=RaHaR manifests as the twinship of Ein-Sof in its fourth generation and in ten archetypical characters, symbolising the ten principalities, three of whom have no antiprinciples in Relativity, Quantisation and the Metamorphosis of the Old Identity into a New Identity, utilising the preceeding nine principles in the rootreduction of 10=1+9=1 '+' 0 =1 or 10binary=2decimal.

    In the 12D-semantics of omnimathematics; the statement [8 + 8 = 1], with numeral [8] placing for 'Infinity', can be restated as the 'denumerable infinity' of a Cantor-Set of 'Cardinality' Aleph-Null in a limit of 'Infinity' to become mapped in a one-to-one correspondence onto a Cantor-Set of 'Cardinality' Aleph-All in a limit of '1'; provided the integer count in Aleph-Null approaches 'Infinity' in a mapping of the same 'mapped' integer count approaching a limit of 'X'.

    The 'indenumerability' of the mapped intervalled 'integer count' is then encompassed in the Feynman-Path-Integral of (T(n)=n[n+1]) in the set: {...-3-2-1+0+1+2+3...}, becoming unitised in the square or doubling of the polarities, analogous to the onsidedness of a potential doublesided surface in [-[-8]+[8]=1] as the quantum geometry of the pentagonal symmetry of the cosmogenesis."

    Logan Antico:
    "It is unlikely, that many layphilosophers would understand your mathematical reasoning; I can however see the geometrical manifestation behind it.
    One begins with the Octagon of Pythagoras and a square of side (a) and proves the Theorem of Pythagoras, before applying a quadruplistic transformation resulting in a threefold nesting of squares and projects a unitsquare onto this nesting to define a circumscribed octagon, within a circle of radius (r).
    Then (r=5a√2/8 and a=√(8/5) and r=½√5) and one can define the pentagon within the circle of radius (r).
    Finding the centre of the nested pentagons as inscribed in a circle of radius r*, then reinitialises the Pythagoraen Octagon and allows definition of the geometry of the hexagon as the alchemical 'Star of David' or the 'Seal of Solomon' in the definition of (r*=√[½(1-1/√5)]=0.525731112...).

    solomon_seal1_400. sealofsolomonpenta. capstone.

    Robert Sceptico:
    "Well, I propose that the layphilosopher will have great difficulties following your arguments of quantum geometry in a similar vein of semantic unfamiliarity.
    Let's see if we can use the Hebrew Kabbalah in an alternative description of the Egyptian mythology of numerological archetypes.
    We have defined our ten characters and now map the kabbalistic 'tree of life' in the following fashion:

    1. Keter or Crown is the Khu of the Spirit and the 'Tree of Life as Djed or Phallus of Osiris'
    2. Hokmah or Wisdom is the Ab of the Heart and 'Throne of Isis
    3. Binah or Intelligence is the Sahu of the Masculine in the 'EyeMirror of Horus'
    4. Hesed or Love is the Ba or Soul of the 'Sistrum of Bast'
    5. Gevurah or Power is the Ibis or Mind of the 'Caduceus of Thoth'
    6. Tiferet or Beauty is the Sekhem of the Feminine in the 'EyeMirror of Hathor'
    7. Nezah or Endurance is the Ka of the Double of the 'Astral Chalice of Nephthys'
    8. Hod or Majesty is the Ren or Name of the 'Mason's Tool of Ptah'
    9. Yesod or Foundation is the Khaibit or Image of the 'Shadow of Anubis'
    10. Malkuth or Kingdom is the Khat or Body and the 'Tree of Death as Yoni or Vulva of Set'


    The SEPHIROTIC TREE OF LIFE also known as MOSES' SAPPHIRE TABLET ;
    then partitions those ten archetypes into a male, say left stem and a female right stem, parted in a middle stem, centred on the 'unclean sexes' of the 69=96.

    The male 'clean-sex' stem is the sequence from top to bottom in: 1-3-5-8-10 and the female 'clean-sex' stem as the series from bottom to top in: 10-7-4-2-(1=1+0=10) as the Kelim of Reshimu.
    The middle stem is so given as: 1-6-9-10, with 1 and 10 interchangeable in a rootreduction of 10=1.
    One sets the maleness as odd numbers and the femaleness in even numbers; the unlean sexes of 6 and 9 encompassing 7 and 8, which so become interchanged in the male 7 associated with the female Nephthys and the female 8 given to the male Ptah to effect the overall transformation of the 10 of Set=Ar into Har and rendering the dragking Set as 'fake' DragonKing into a real DragonQueen Har for a real DragonKing RaH and as the Tsimtsum of the Tehiru in the Torah.
    And so the seven 'clean sexes' are 1,2,3,4,5,7 and 8 and the two 'unclean' sexes are 6 and 9; the differentiation being made for the pupose to render the number 10 as a true female, the 0 in between two number 1's, say in: (101binary=5decimal), mirroring the maleness in the femaleness and vice versa; the 'fowls of heaven' defining the bisexuality contained in the undifferentiated twinships.

    The symbolism of the 69=96 involves this mirror of being inverted either back to back in 96 or of being inverted face to face in the two 'immutable principles', by whom it was impossible for 'God' and hence the 'AntiGod' or 'Dog' to lie, coded in Hebrews.6.18.

    Mirroring 6 in a vertical mirror, either left or right results in a reflected numeral 6, which is however an inverted 9 in a reflection about a horizontal mirror either above or below the cipher 6.
    So a double-reflection, once vertical and once horizontal transforms the 6 into the 9 or vice versa and so 69=96 represent the mechanism by which God's purpose of the 10-tiered unification is accomplished.
    The numbers 66 or 999 etc. only transform the 6's into 9's and the 9's into 6's and do not achieve the desired aim of using two in one to mirror the one in the two."

    Logan Antico:
    "So only the birth of omniscience towards the beginning of the third millennium has allowed us to finally draw all the ancient threads together and to weave the carpet of the New Science.
    We have built upon the traditions of the historical sciences and yet we could accomodate hitherto elusive concepts, such as consciousness and the meaning of emotions, love and the mind.



    An ancient inscription is legendarily ascribed to the Egyptian Ibisgod Thoth (also sometimes identified with some archcherubimic character called Metatron) and is supposedly his hieroglyphic legacy left as a testimonial in the Great Pyramid of Cheops or Khufu.
    It was translated ages ago by German archaeologists and exists as a prototype in the 'Amphitheatrum Sapientae Aeternae of Heinrich Khunrath', the 'Amphitheatre of Eternal Wisdom' and is dated to 1609. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Khunrath

    Verba secretorum hermetis!

    {1} Verum sine menda cio certum & verissimum, quod est inferi est sicut quod est superius & quod est superius est sicut quod est inferius; ad peristranda miracula rei uni.
    {2} Et sicut omnes res fuerunt ab uno, meditatione unius, sic omnes res nuta fuerunt ab hac
    una adaptatione.
    {3} Pater ei, est sol, mater eius luna, portavit illud ventus in ventre.
    {4} Suo nutrix eius terra est.
    {5} Pater omnis talismi toti mundi.
    {6} Est hic vis ei.
    {7} Integra est sive fuerit in terram separabis terram ab igne, subtile & spisso, suaviter cum magno ingenio.
    {8} Ascendit terra in coelum, iterumque descendit in terram & recipit vim superiorum & inferiorum.
    {9} Sic habebis gloriam toti mundi.
    {10} Ideo fugi atite omnis obscuritas.
    {11} Hic est totius fortitudinis fortitudo fortis.
    {12} Quia vincet omnem rem subtilem, omnem que solidam penetrabit.
    {13} Sic mundus creatus est.
    {14} Hinc erunt adaptationes mirabilis quarum modus hic est.
    {15} Itaque vocatus sum Hermes Trismegistus, habens tres partes philosophie totis mundi.
    {16} Completum est quod dixi de operatione solis.

    Mercurius Trismegistus in Pimandro.



    Das Wort des geheimnisvollen Boten

    {1} Wahrhaftig, keiner Lügen bewusst und auf das aller wahrhaftigste; das Unten ist dem Oben gleich und das Obere is dasselbe als da Untere; damit kann man das wunderbare eines einzigen Dinges erlangen und verrichten.
    {2} Und wie alle Dinge durch die Wahl eines einzigen Wesens erschaffen sind, werden alle Dinge durch das Denken eines Einzigen mit dem Einen durch Schickung und Gebot wieder zusammengefügt.
    {3} Die Sonne ist sein Vater und der Mond ist seine Mutter, der Wind hat ihn in seinem Bauch getragen.
    {4} Seine Ernährerin oder Amme ist die Erde.
    {5} Dieser ist der Vater aller Vollkommenheit dieser ganzen Welt.
    {6} Seine Macht ist vollkommen.
    {7} Wenn Es in der Erde verwandelt wird, dann wird das Erdreich vom Feuer scheiden und das Feine vom Groben; ganz lieblich mit grosser Bescheidenheit und Verstand.
    {8} Er steigt von der Erde in den Himmel und vom Himmel wieder zur Erde zurück und gewinnt so die Kraft des Oberen und des Unteren.
    {9} Auf diese Weise wird all die Herrlichkeit der ganzen Welt erhalten.
    {10} Deshalb versetze von Dir allen Unverstand und Unvermögenheit.
    {11} Das ist von aller Stärke die stärkste Stärke.
    {12} Dann kann das übriggebliebene Subtile gewonnen und das alte, harte Gewand durchdrungen werden.
    {13} Also ist die Welt geschaffen.
    {14} Daher geschehen seltsame Vereinigungen und deshalb werden mancherlei Wunder gewirkt.
    {15} Und sei darum gesund, Hermes Trismegistus, Besitzer der dreiteiligen Weisheit von der ganzen Welt.
    {16} Er wird alles erfüllen, was ich gesagt habe, vom Werke der Sonnen.

    Merkur, der dreifach Grosse, in Pimandro.



    The Emerald Tablet of the Secret Messenger

    {1} Truly, without fault and in all certainty and truthfulness; what is below is like what is above and the above is the same as the below, for the purpose to experience and bring about the wonders of the one thing.
    {2} And as all things are created through the choosing of one being; so the thinking of one with the one, brings all things by command and fate together again.
    {3} His father is the sun and his mother is the moon; the wind has carried him in his womb.
    {4} He is joined together and nursed by the earth.
    {5} This is the father of all completeness of the entire world.
    {6} His power is all inclusive.
    {7} At the time of its renewal, the soil shall separate from the fire and the subtle from the rough,
    acting sweetly and with great ingenuity.
    {8} He ascends sagaciously from the earth into heaven and then descends again into the earth, thus regaining the unifying force of the above and the below.
    {9} In this way is all the glory of all the worlds obtained.
    {10} Therefore avoid all ignorance.
    {11} Herein is found in all strenght the strongest strength.
    {12} By this can the remaining subtle whole be won and the old solid whole be penetrated.
    {13} Thus is the creation of the world.
    {14} Henceforth the eventuation of strange adaptations by extraordinary methods.
    {15} Accordingly be well, Hermes Trismegistos, keeper of the tripartite wisdom of the unified worlds.
    {16} He will accomplish that of which I have spoken through the operations of the suns.

    Mercury, the thrice-great, in Pimandro.



    So who is this Hermes Trismegistos?
    It is the archetype for the 'Teacher of Righteousness'.
    Right throughout the ages of humankind, there have been sages, soothsayers, prophets and mystics of all kinds; some sincere and others praying on the superstitions and the gullibilities of the general members of the population.

    One remembers the Naassenes; an early Christian Gnostic sect and closely associated with Jesus-Yeshuah.

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    We know about Tortuguero Monument 6,

    which contains the 2012 period-ending date and Lord Jaguar's birthday.

    His birthday places the sun right at the Crossroads of the Milky Way and ecliptic

    --- the same position the sun was at on December 21, 2012.

    This alone was a striking support for my "2012 alignment theory."

    Last year I re-examined Monument 2 from Tortuguero.

    Scholars had proposed it was dedicated on 9.14.0.0.0,

    but that reconstruction was based on assuming a scribal error.

    I explored other possible readings of the inscription and discovered a solid alternate reading.

    I was surprised to then discover that it was the date 5 tuns later, 12 Ajaw 8 Kankin (in 716 AD),

    and this was the 2nd Calendar Round anniversary of Lord Jaguar's birthday (in 612 AD).

    The essay I wrote last year is posted at The Center for 2012 Studies

    (and there's also a follow-up essay there, too): http://thecenterfor2012studies.com/TRTMon2.pdf



    07 july 2013

    Susan, here is a proper evaluation and analysis of the Tortugero Monument 6 about the validation of the Mayan endate of the 'longtimes' for 13.0.0.0.0 = 3 Kankin 4 Ahau of December 21st, 2012. This is without the Nabs interpretations and including some takes of Callemann and Jenkins and addresses some of their original sources. Feel free to share this on your sites of your data sharings.


    These are the first 18 to 44 pages of 68 from this link: http://www.wayeb.org/notes/wayeb_notes0034.pdf
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    by John Major Jenkins
    from JohnMajorJenkins Website
    It is important to define what the Galactic Alignment is in precise astronomical terms.

    See Glossary below for terms.


    The Galactic Alignment is the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator. This alignment occurs as a result of the precession of the equinoxes.

    Precession is caused by the earth wobbling very slowly on its axis and shifts the position of the equinoxes and solstices one degree every 71.5 years. Because the sun is one-half of a degree wide, it will take the December solstice sun 36 years to precess through the Galactic equator (see diagram below).


    The precise alignment of the solstice point (the precise center-point of the body of the sun as viewed from earth) with the Galactic equator was calculated to occur in 1998 (Jean Meeus, Mathematical Astronomy Morsels, 1997).

    Thus, the Galactic Alignment "zone" is 1998 +/- 18 years = 1980 - 2016. This is "era-2012."

    This Galactic Alignment occurs only once every 26,000 years, and was what the ancient Maya were pointing to with the 2012 end-date of their Long Count calendar.



    2012_03_02.
    These are the astronomical facts of the matter.

    From a larger perspective, we can visualize the 2012 Galactic Alignment in the following way:



    2012_03_01.
    • Position A is where the December solstice sun was in relation to the Milky Way some 3,000 years ago
    • Position B is 1,500 years ago
    • Position C is "era-2012", when the December solstice sun has converged, as a result of the precession of the equinoxes, with the exact center-line of the Milky Way (the Galactic equator)
    Notice that the place of alignment is where the 'nuclear bulge' of the Galactic Center is located. It is my hope that the these definitions will help to standardize the terminology so we can clearly discuss the rare precessional alignment that culminates in era-2012.


    Glossary

    • The ecliptic: The path followed by the sun, moon, and planets. It is the plane of our solar system. The ecliptic encircles the earth and is divided into twelve constellations, or zodiac signs.


      2012_03_07.
    • The Milky Way: The bright band of star that our solar system belongs to. It encircles the earth and is wider in the region of Sagittarius because that is where the 'nuclear bulge" of the Milky Way's center is located (our Milky Way is saucer shaped). (click below image)


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    • The Galactic equator: The precise mid-line running down the Milky Way. Analogous to the earth's equator, it divides the galaxy into two hemispheres, or lobes.
    • The Dark Rift in the Milky Way: A feature caused by interstellar dust that runs along the Milky Way from the Galactic Center northward past the constellation of Aquila. (click below image)


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    • The December solstice sun: The sun, on the December solstice. It is one-half of a degree wide.
    • The December solstice point: The precise midpoint of the sun, on the December solstice.
    • The Precession of the equinoxes: The earth wobbles very slowly on its axis and this causes the position of the equinox to shift backwards, or precess, through the signs of the ecliptic at the rate of one degree every 71.5 years. The full precessional wobble is complete in roughly 25,800 years. (click below image)


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    • The vernal equinox point is defined by the intersection of the ecliptic and the celestial equator.
    • The Celestial Equator: The earth's equator projected into the stars. It is the plane of the earth's rotation (click below image)


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    • The Cross formed by the Milky Way and the ecliptic: Exactly as stated. There are two of these, one in early Sagittarius, the other in early Gemini. The former cross has the virtue of being located within the nuclear bulge of the Galactic Center.
    • The nuclear bulge / the Galactic Center: A bright and wide region of the Milky Way, visible to the naked eye and between Sagittarius and Scorpio. The more precise and abstract center-point of the nuclear bulge is the precise Galactic Center, located at about 6 degrees Sagittarius (sidereal) and 27 degrees in the tropical zodiac. (click below images)


    Additional Glossary of Mayan Calendar terms
    • Ahau Sequence: The sequence of five day-signs related in the Dresden Codex which are used to predict the morningstar risings of Venus: Ahau, Kan, Lamat, Eb and Cib. This sequence also occurs in the same context in the Popol Vuh.
    • Calendar Round (CR): A period of 52 haab representing the synchronization of the tzolkin and haab.
    • Corr #: The "correlation number", "correlation constant" or the "Ahau equation", i.e., the Julian Day number which corresponds with the first day of the Long Count Great Cycle.
    • Count of Days: Usually refers to the 260-day cycle.
    • Day-Sign Coefficient: The number (between 1 and 13) which accompanies a day-sign.
    • Eagle Sequence: Predictive Sequence ruled by the day-sign Eagle: Eagle (Men), Cauac, Akbal, Manik and Chuen.
    • Eclipse Half-Year: Period of time between eclipses - 173.3 days. Implicit in Mayan calculations.
    • Ecliptic: The 16 degree wide belt along which the planets, moon, and sun travel.
    • Emergence Day-Signs: Day-signs on which Venus emerges as morning star.
    • (G): Indicates the use of the Gregorian calendar.
    • GMT: The Goodman-Martinez-Thompson correlation number: JD 584283.
    • Great Cycle: Period of time generated by the Mayan Long Count. Equals 13 Baktuns, 1872000 days, or approximately 5125.36 years.
    • Haab: Same as the vague solar year; period of 365 days.
    • Hun: One
    • Hun Batz: One Monkey. God of the Popol Vuh.
    • Hun Chuen: One Monkey (or One Artisan). God of the Popol Vuh.
    • Hunahpu: One of the Hero twins of the Popol Vuh. Refers to the day-sign Ahau, and therefore, as One Ahau, the traditional Sacred Day of Venus.
    • Inferior Conjunction: This occurs when a retrograde planet crosses in front of the sun, on its way to becoming a morningstar.
    • (J): Indicates use of the Julian Calendar.
    • JD or J.D. #: Julian Day Number.
    • Mam: Ixil Maya term to designate the arrival of the year-bearer (the first day of the haab; New Year's Day).
    • New Year's Day in Mayan Calendars: New Year's day is the first day of the haab. Since different cultural groups followed different haab placements, New Year's Day occurs at different times for different groups. Also, since leap year was not recognized in the Mayan haab, New Year's Day precesses backward around the Gregorian calendar at the rate of one day every four years. This does not complicate the universally shared Sacred Count of 260 days.
    • Nodal Cycle: The cycle of the lunar nodes around the ecliptic. Approximately equals 18.4 years.
    • Oxib: Three in the Quiche language.
    • PHI: The Golden Mean or the Golden Proportion. Although this is best expressed as a ratio, it is usually approximated as 1.618.
    • Predictive Emergence Day-Signs: Sequence of 5 day-signs which predict the morningstar appearance of Venus. Similar to Predictive Sequence.
    • Predictive Sequence: The sequence of 5 day-signs which predict the morningstar appearance of Venus after inferior conjunction. There are four possible sequences.
    • (Q): Indicates use of the Quiche haab.
    • Ruling Sequences (4): In my proposed Venus Calendar, there are four possible Senior Day-Signs, and each implies its own ruling sequence for the Venus Round of its rule. The four possible Sequence Rulers are: Serpent, Dog, Eagle, Marksman. The Ruling Sequences are implied from these four Senior Day-Signs, after the intervals in the Dresden Codex.
    • Sacred Calendar: Although this term can refer to the 260-day cycle by itself, it can also refer to the complete framework of time-cycles used by the Maya.
    • Sacred Cycle: Refers to the 260-day cycle.
    • Sacred Day of Venus: The sacred day (including its number coefficient) which begins a Venus Round. Example: 1 Ahau is the traditional Sacred Day of Venus. Ahau, by itself, is simply the Senior Sacred Day (coefficient is required to designate the Sacred Day apart from the occurrence of Ahau as only an Emergence Day-Sign).
    • Senior Day-Sign: Usually the Calendar Round beginning day. The most revered day-sign; can vary from group to group.
    • Stelae: Carved monuments often found at archeological sites. Many contain tzolkin/haab and Long Count dates. These were called te-Štuns (tree stones) by the Classic Maya.
    • (T): Indicates the use of the Tikal haab.
    • Tzolkin: Sacred Count of Days (260-day cycle). Alternate meanings: "pieces of sun" or "day-count of vibrational tree-consciousness".
    • Tzolkin/Haab: Conventional combining of tzolkin and haab designation to indicate a unique day within a Calendar Round period.
    • Vague Solar Year: Mayan numerological convention - 365 days. Otherwise known as the haab.
    • Vayeb: The 5-day month which ends the haab.
    • Venus Calendar: The system by which morningstar appearances of Venus are predicted. Consists of the nestled cycles of tzolkin, haab, and Calendar Round.
    • Venus Cycle: The synodical period of Venus. Equals 583.92 days; the Maya used a 584 day approximation.
    • Venus Emergence as Morningstar: The first day on which Venus becomes visible in the eastern morning sky after inferior conjunction (passing in front of the sun). Reckoned to occur 4 days after perfect inferior conjunction.
    • Venus/Mars Round: Actually, this refers to a conjunction cycle of Venus, Mars and the Sun, evident in the Dresden Codex. Equals 6 Calendar Rounds.
    • Venus Rising: The date on which Venus emerges as morningstar.
    • Venus Round (VR): The period of 104 haab which synchronizes the primary cycles of Mayan time - the tzolkin and haab. Also provides a framework by which the astronomical phenomena associated with Venus can be predicted.
    • Xbalanque: One of the hero twins from the Popol Vuh. Refers to the day-sign Ix and the full moon.
    • Xibalba: The Mayan Underworld.
    • Year-Bearers: The sequence of four day-signs on which the first day of the haab can occur. There are 5 different year-bearer sequences, or types, labelled in Roman numerals: I, II, III, IV and V.
    • Zero Counting: zero counting was used by various groups to count haab months from 0 to 19. The Ixil and Quiche dropped zero counting at some point and began counting their haab months from 1 to 20.

    We can have a more general discussion of galactic alignments in history if we consider that the solstice axis aligns with the galactic equator every half precession cycle.

    Likewise, the equinox axis aligns with the galactic equator every half precession cycle. Thus, galactic alignments, more generally speaking, occur in era 2012 (1980 - 2016) and every quarter precession cycle before and after era 2012.

    In terms of Mayan astronomy and mythology, the Dark Rift feature (which the Maya called the Black Road or Xibalba be) lies along the galactic equator (the Milky Way) in the place where the December solstice sun will be in 2012. (More precisely, the December solstice sun will reach the southern terminus of the Dark Rift, where it touches the ecliptic in Sagittarius.)


    Thus, in terms of Mayan mythology, we can also describe the Galactic Alignment of era-2012 as the alignment of the December solstice sun and the Dark Rift. This entire region is targeted by the cross formed by the Milky Way and the ecliptic between Sagittarius and Scorpio. This Cross was also recognized by the Maya, and was called the Crossroads or Sacred Tree.

    This entire region is embraced by what astronomers call the 'nuclear bulge' of the Galactic Center—the center of our Milky Way galaxy.

    As any amateur astronomer or naked-eye star gazer knows, this nuclear bulge is recognizable without the aid of radio telescopes. It is wider and brighter than other parts of the Milky Way. So, in a general sense we can also say that the alignment in 2012 is an alignment between the December solstice sun and the Galactic Center.

    However, since the nuclear bulge is quite large, this definition is not as precise as saying "the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator", which occurs in the range 1980 - 2016.

    This is the alignment zone I refer to with the term "era-2012."


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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Jul 5th 2013


    White dwarf star throws light on possible variability of a constant of Nature

    Jul 04, 2013

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    Researchers have studied a distant star where gravity is more than 30,000 times greater than on Earth to test the controversial theory that one of the constants of Nature -- the strength of the electromagnetic force, known as alpha -- is not a constant. Credit: UNSW


    An international team led by the University of New South Wales has studied a distant star where gravity is more than 30,000 times greater than on Earth to test its controversial theory that one of the constants of Nature is not a constant.

    Answering the ultimate question to Life, Universe and Everything? Not quite, but an international team of scientists have conducted research that opens up new possibilities for exploring what have previously only been theories of physics. Using the Hubble Space Telescope, the astronomers have tested whether the strength of the electromagnetic force is altered in the strong gravitational field of a white dwarf star. Team member Professor Martin Barstow of the University of Leicester will present the new work at the RAS National Astronomy Meeting in St Andrews, Scotland.

    In a letter in the journal Physical Review Letters, the team from the University of Leicester, University of Cambridge, University of Arizona and University of New South Wales highlight the potential impact of their research.
    "The research opens up new possibilities for searching for exotic "scalar fields", forms of energy that often appear in theories of physics that seek to combine the Standard Model of particle physics with Einstein's general theory of relativity," said Professor Barstow.
    The electromagnetic force is one of four fundamental forces that shape the universe. Its strength is given in the Standard Model by a pure number, with no units, known as the "fine-structure constant", denoted by the Greek letter alpha (α). Combining the speed of light, the electric charge of an electron, and Planck's constant, alpha has always been measured on earth to have the same value, approximately 1/137.
    A key question is whether alpha changes in different parts of the Universe or in strong gravity fields. Recent observations of light from distant quasars (luminous sources thought to be caused by material heating up as it swirls around a black hole) hint that the fine-structure constant varies over the sky at large distances. But as yet there is no independent check for this result.
    Some theories predict that alpha will vary in the presence of exotic scalar fields like those that are invoked to help unite the Standard Model with Einstein's theory of general relativity that describes gravitation.
    White dwarf stars, the compact remnants left behind when stars like the Sun reach the end of their lives are an ideal natural laboratory to test this idea. With a lot of matter packed into a sphere about the size of the Earth, they have strong gravitational fields.


    By measuring the value of alpha near a white dwarf, and comparing it with its value here and now in the laboratory, astronomers can indirectly probe whether these alpha-changing scalar fields actually exist.
    The team measured alpha for the first time the white dwarf star G191-B2B using iron and nickel ions (atoms where electrons are added or removed to give them a net electrical charge) trapped in the atmosphere of the white dwarf. Despite the strong gravitational field of the white dwarf - nearly 100,000 times that on Earth - the ions stay above the surface because they are continually pushed up by the strong radiation from the star.
    The ions absorb some of the light from the white dwarf, making an "absorption spectrum" that was observed using the Hubble Space Telescope. That absorption spectrum allows the scientists to probe the value of alpha in the atmosphere of the white dwarf with high accuracy. By comparing the positions of the absorption lines measured by the telescope with the positions measured in the laboratory, they can tell whether alpha is different near the white dwarf.
    Professor Barstow adds: "We found that any difference between the value of alpha on Earth and that measured in the strong gravitational field of the white dwarf must be smaller than a part in ten thousand, which means that any scalar fields must only weakly affect the electromagnetic force.


    Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-07-white-dwarf-star-variability-constant.html#jCp
    [6:07:46 AM-Friday, July 5th, 2013 +10UCT] Hades 88: tomorrow is 5th
    [6:07:55 AM] Hades 88: gn
    [5:42:38 PM] Hades 88:



    [8:39:02 PM] Hades 88: hey Tony remember the universal constants we briefly talked about...look at this article
    http://phys.org/news/2013-07-white-dwarf-star-variability-constant.html

    [8:40:15 PM] Hades 88: it describes how electromagnetic force (em) might be variable
    [8:40:47 PM] Hades 88: but this is a bit strange to me...i thought if that force changes things would "flow/float apart"
    [10:38:41 PM] Hades 88: space wind
    http://rt.com/news/space-wind-discovered-proof-649/

    [11:04:53 PM] Emeth 141:
    Professor Barstow adds: "We found that any difference between the value of alpha on Earth and that measured in the strong gravitational field of the white dwarf must be smaller than a part in ten thousand, which means that any scalar fields must only weakly affect the electromagnetic force.

    'Unfortunately, our work was limited by the need to use very old laboratory measurements from the 1970s. In the future, with better laboratory data to complement the high-precision astronomical data, we should be able to measure the change in alpha down to one part per million. At that level we would be able to place strong restrictions on whether alpha is a true constant of nature."
    Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-07-white-dwarf-star-variability-constant.html#jCp


    [11:06:02 PM-Friday, July 5th, 2013 +10UCT]
    Emeth 141: The codata value of alpha is calculated as: 1/137.036~0.00735729
    [11:07:07 PM] Emeth 141: The Thuban value is: 1/137.047~0.00729677
    [11:10:24 PM] Emeth 141: The difference in dimensionless units is: 0.0000605=1/16,523

    [11:11:16 PM] Emeth 141: So this 'discrepancy' Barstow measured is just at the 1 in 10,000 level, they have measured and calculated. Thuban science uses a 'cosmic' or primordial derivation, which 'simplifies' the alpha electromagnetic finestructure constant in rendering it independent on lightspeed 'c', and only using the Coulombic electrocharge in its squared expression as the numerator over the Planck Constant and multiplied by 60π. Not using the metric displacement scale of the macrocosmos and so Einstein's General Relativity, so renders the alpha constant as gravitational as the micro-quantum form for the earliest cosmology. It is there that the magnetopole charge of the GUTs or Grand-Unified-Theories came into play and when those dominated the electropole charges as directly related to the parameter of inertia or mass.

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    Hey everybody, thanks for all the posts, so much information i just hope we can extract the value of the wisdom from it all.
    This video link just showed up and i was also just thinking about all these sightings. Observing as usual to see what manifests from it all and truly hoping for real contact and star cruiser technology to become a physical reality of the world. And what are these objects that show up in these many sun videos? Are they "mother" ships observing the cosmic reconfiguration to our sun? I really don't know but for many months now these videos show objects around the sun. IN MY MINDS EYE I SEE A GLOBAL VISION OF OFFICIAL CONTACT AND MASS SIGHTINGS AND LANDINGS AND A QUANTUM UPSHIFT TO A TRUE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL WORLD!!! Call me a dreamer! They do! And i say is that not how the future projection of thought based energy works to project onto the screen the tesseract? In order to get star cruisers do we need to be consciously and actively thinking about them? Well I gotta go out and wave the sign around in traffic on the main street to try and bring in customers to the market and i shall do so with the same force that i am bringing in my own ET contact!!! YES!!! MERLIN HAS THE MAGICAL POWERS TO BE ABLE TO WIELD THE RED ARROW!!! THE MARKET IS OPEN TODAY!!! ----> :)
    Take care everybody i just felt a bit a shift in the energies so lets hope these next few days bring us the real payday we have been working so hard for! You guys rock! mad.
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    Jorgelito - Posted Jul 5th 2013


    The Phoenix Pattern
    The meaning of creation examined

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    Emeth141, I like the video Emerald Tablet of Toth. I think of this . . .
    There's a theme of dropping into and rising from the Earth (similar to the Phoenix). It seems to be a process common to all levels of creation.
    We drop into world to give life -- what we love and what we are -- like giving birth to a child -- to create life free and sovereign -- by manifesting Who We Are. Then with joy we release what has been made to the universe from whence it came.
    It seems the role of Phoenix is driven by the love we are -- not for the evolution of gods or demons -- perfectly evolved already -- and not necessarily to effect change in the world, others or ourselves -- but being who we are -- being awake to the love, the beauty and being alive . . .


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    It seems Song of the Pearl, dragons, Minotaur, and Phoenix all seem to be pointing to the same thread -- a thread that tells the meaning of creation, repeating itself over and over, sunrise sunset.

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    JesterTerrestrial - Posted Jul 5th 2013

    WELCOME TO KALI CANADA!!! WE STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM NOW THE WHOLE TEAM F8KIN HERE!!!!

     
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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Jul 8th 2013

    Logos Conversations on the July 8th, 2013 Nexus Time
    ............

    [3:50:34 PM-Monday, July 8th, 2013 -+10UCT] Sirius 17: only in her dreams
    [3:51:00 PM] Emeth 141: Yes a typical Freudian-Jungian psychosoma complex
    [3:51:26 PM] Sirius 17: but like you have hinted at before, what good are dreams that never come true
    [3:52:04 PM] Emeth 141: The dreamers miss the praxis and the evolution of the physical WITH the metaphysical
    [3:52:12 PM] Emeth 141: The metaphysics alone is useless
    [3:52:17 PM] Sirius 17: one has to be the conduit and instrument for the reality
    [3:52:35 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and this conduit is the BODY in 3D
    [3:52:49 PM] Emeth 141: It is not some fairy tale
    [3:53:14 PM] Sirius 17: hehe no but it could be, still can be
    [3:53:36 PM] Emeth 141: Whimsicalities of thoughts and dreaming states, like some obnoxious astral realisms from many Nabsers
    [3:54:12 PM] Emeth 141: So how is James?
    [3:54:23 PM] Sirius 17: he is fine, we had a wonderful day
    [3:54:28 PM] Emeth 141: Good to hear
    [3:55:06 PM] Emeth 141: The Logos can use this core twinship at least
    [3:55:20 PM] Emeth 141: But Logos would know deeper things here, than we do
    [3:55:35 PM] Emeth 141: But as said for the firtst time in a long time, I got MI strongly
    [3:55:54 PM] Sirius 17: he took me out today and bought me shoes and got me a pedicure and manicure. i have not bought new shoes for over two years or really done much for myself. he spoiled me and sat there the whole time smiling to just make me happy
    [3:56:00 PM] Emeth 141: So there are manouvers in the above mirrored in the below
    [3:56:17 PM] Emeth 141: Nice
    [3:56:26 PM] Sirius 17: it was very nice
    [3:56:58 PM] Emeth 141: Anchoring a Lighthouse perhaps for the tempestuous waters and the rocking ships
    [3:57:07 PM] Sirius 17: and yes we talk about things and that we both need to loose weight and do healthier things in order to enjoy our bodies and life
    [3:57:29 PM] Sirius 17: we both have been talking about how unhappy we are with our health and bodies
    [3:57:47 PM] Sirius 17: that if we felt more energy and such we could do so much more, have adventures ect
    [3:57:54 PM] Sirius 17: maybe even sexy ones lol
    [3:58:06 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and this might become my agenda too now
    [3:58:14 PM] Sirius 17: its ours for sure
    [3:58:23 PM] Emeth 141: You will be ready for it, should it evolve
    [3:58:45 PM] Sirius 17: well i will do as i have always done and act on my impluses
    [3:58:51 PM] Sirius 17: my body will follow
    [3:58:59 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and they guided you well
    [3:59:03 PM] Emeth 141: Mostly
    [3:59:07 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [3:59:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes the smoking, i will conqure that too
    [3:59:35 PM] Emeth 141: Better
    [3:59:46 PM] Sirius 17: james still has not smoked pot
    [3:59:54 PM] Sirius 17: since the 23rd of may
    [3:59:56 PM] Emeth 141: Amazing
    [3:59:59 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [4:00:27 PM] Sirius 17: he is determined not to
    [4:00:38 PM] Emeth 141: 23rd of May was the start of the 70 weeks as 32 days, following the 15 days as the 'Hour'
    [4:00:59 PM] Sirius 17: i am smoking way less and will quit soon
    [4:01:07 PM] Sirius 17: i have been cutting way down
    [4:01:17 PM] Sirius 17: so the withdrawls dont kill me when i cold turkey
    [4:01:46 PM] Emeth 141: I cant get, that you dont use nicotineamine subs as the health prof you are
    [4:01:52 PM] Sirius 17: we started going for walks here and hikes and such
    [4:02:05 PM] Sirius 17: because i want to quit the addiction totally
    [4:02:11 PM] Sirius 17: not switch to something else
    [4:02:17 PM] Emeth 141: Sounds this core is evolving at a good pace
    [4:02:22 PM] Sirius 17: i guess i am stuborn
    [4:02:34 PM] Emeth 141: Sunflower kernels are a healthfood
    [4:02:47 PM] Sirius 17: yeah and i need to get more
    [4:02:52 PM] Sirius 17: i have been eating those too
    [4:03:03 PM] Sirius 17: and we will go buy a juicer tomorrow
    [4:03:10 PM] Emeth 141: Good idea
    [4:03:17 PM] Emeth 141: Juice anything
    [4:03:33 PM] Emeth 141: raw good blood elixir
    [4:03:36 PM] Sirius 17: i plan to, lots of farmers markets here with home grown organic stuff
    [4:03:47 PM] Sirius 17: and cheap in the summer
    [4:04:20 PM] Sirius 17: but i just got my money too, we had been waiting for that to get a few things like that
    [4:04:35 PM] Sirius 17: you should juice too if you can
    [4:04:56 PM] Sirius 17: do you have a juicer?
    [4:05:12 PM] Emeth 141: I had one, but gave it to Helen
    [4:05:26 PM] Emeth 141: Same thing, trying to help her to quit
    [4:05:37 PM] Sirius 17: oh how is she doing now?
    [4:05:56 PM] Emeth 141: She is healing and walking again after hip replacement
    [4:06:08 PM] Emeth 141: I have not seen her since February
    [4:06:39 PM] Sirius 17: oh but you have talked to her right?
    [4:06:46 PM] Emeth 141: Yes via skype
    [4:06:50 PM] Sirius 17: she got her disability i hope
    [4:07:04 PM] Emeth 141: Not as far as I know
    [4:07:21 PM] Sirius 17: oh dear, i had thought you said it looked like she may get it
    [4:07:38 PM] Emeth 141: She has silly pride of wanting to work etc
    [4:07:48 PM] Sirius 17: lol stuborn
    [4:07:51 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [4:08:04 PM] Sirius 17: well i hope it works out for her anyhow
    [4:08:16 PM] Emeth 141: She seems ok for the time being
    [4:08:25 PM] Sirius 17: i am so glad she got the medical treatment she needed
    [4:08:34 PM] Emeth 141: Adam talked today. I sensed a moodchange in him
    [4:08:36 PM] Sirius 17: maybe she slowed down on the drinking
    [4:08:41 PM] Emeth 141: She did
    [4:08:47 PM] Sirius 17: good
    [4:08:52 PM] Sirius 17: oh what did he say?
    [4:09:17 PM] Emeth 141: He commented on the Snowden thing and like wanted some input
    [4:09:32 PM] Sirius 17: oh wow, thats a good development
    [4:09:42 PM] Emeth 141: This was surprising, as he was mentally cut off completely for some time now
    [4:09:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is
    [4:10:10 PM] Emeth 141: So again, you see little signs, that something has shifted higherD
    [4:10:30 PM] Sirius 17: what do you make of the airplane crash and train wreck?
    [4:10:40 PM] Emeth 141: Chapter 20 begins in 15 hours or so
    [4:10:55 PM] Emeth 141: I dont know actually
    [4:11:02 PM] Emeth 141: Symbolic somehow
    [4:11:19 PM] Emeth 141: Also the standoff in Egypt now - political stalemates
    [4:11:33 PM] Sirius 17: i feel its related to the matrix changes
    [4:11:36 PM] Sirius 17: somehow
    [4:11:51 PM] Sirius 17: like you said, things are not going to act normal
    [4:11:53 PM] Emeth 141: I will just be an observer now and hardly say anything anymore on the forums
    [4:11:58 PM] Sirius 17: there will be abnormalities
    [4:12:22 PM] Emeth 141: The Cocooned ETs and ships make a lot of sense to me
    [4:12:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes and some may hatch soon lol
    [4:12:45 PM] Emeth 141: I had wondered about this for a long time and it never dawned on me to actually consider it this way
    [4:13:31 PM] Emeth 141: You must recall my statements about 'building the ships'
    [4:13:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes no i know what your saying, about the inner earth thing
    [4:14:07 PM] Emeth 141: Inside the cocoon there is plenty of time to use the technology for the raw materials
    [4:14:45 PM] Emeth 141: Mind you, I am NOT saying or talking about 'Hollow Earth' Nabs or 'Green reptilian races' in the underground
    [4:15:16 PM] Emeth 141: I am saying, that there can well be underground dimensional gateways to the outside of the Cocoon.
    [4:15:45 PM] Emeth 141: But residing in those 'inner pockets' allows the physicalisation, which is impossible away from the bubble
    [4:15:48 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok, i see what your saying
    [4:16:03 PM] Sirius 17: like the ships comming out of the water thing
    [4:16:08 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [4:16:28 PM] Emeth 141: And there are SOME credible reports amidst the Nabs and disinfo
    [4:16:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes rendlesheme and others
    [4:16:53 PM] Sirius 17: roswell
    [4:16:53 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [4:17:20 PM] Emeth 141: And reports about Nazi technology and expeditions to the poles etc
    [4:17:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:17:57 PM] Sirius 17: i dont buy the hollow earth theory but a dimensional portal makes complete sense yes
    [4:17:58 PM] Emeth 141: This was 60-70 years ago and BEFORE the Nabsers hijacked those agendas
    [4:18:10 PM] Emeth 141: Now you are on my wavelength
    [4:18:38 PM] Sirius 17: and yes i had not considered it before either
    [4:18:50 PM] Emeth 141: Weird this in a way, as it is logical
    [4:19:24 PM] Emeth 141: The inside of the bubble is used to construct things with technology and nous attained from the outside
    [4:19:41 PM] Sirius 17: drunvalo talked about visiting these places in one of his videos
    [4:19:46 PM] Sirius 17: how he got smaller and smaller
    [4:19:59 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and he is partially 'above board' imo
    [4:20:21 PM] Emeth 141: I actually give him more 'heart' now than Nassim
    [4:20:50 PM] Emeth 141: He sold out to the celebrity status too of course
    [4:21:01 PM] Sirius 17: well Drunvalo is working with the mayans too of course, the indigenous tribes
    [4:21:20 PM] Emeth 141: But he saw through Anna Hayes Nabs years ago and I give him credit for that
    [4:21:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes he is partially sold out
    [4:21:33 PM] Sirius 17: but i dont think he is getting super rich off it
    [4:21:51 PM] Emeth 141: Partially yes but ok on the heart level
    [4:21:58 PM] Emeth 141: Like Collier and Cannon
    [4:22:04 PM] Sirius 17: oh on the heart level he seems pretty true
    [4:22:16 PM] Emeth 141: Alex has gone whacko imo though
    [4:22:24 PM] Emeth 141: What I mean
    [4:22:25 PM] Sirius 17: he is broke
    [4:22:36 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and this is why he is gone whacko lol
    [4:22:36 PM] Sirius 17: so its time to pull out all stops
    [4:22:53 PM] Emeth 141: He cant handle the metaphysical pressure
    [4:23:36 PM] Emeth 141: So he has fallen into Nabs generalisations
    [4:24:02 PM] Emeth 141: He was good in the late 1990's, when he began to share the science of the Andromedeans
    [4:24:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes but he got pretty beat up for 'coming out' back then and i think he turned skeptical of himself then too
    [4:24:44 PM] Sirius 17: and now he sees it as more of a way to suppliment his income
    [4:25:02 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [4:25:39 PM] Sirius 17: like David Icke and the rest of them, back in their younger days they were really before their time i feel
    [4:25:53 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, I see it that way too
    [4:26:08 PM] Emeth 141: Icke is still ok, whenever he does not engage the Reptilians
    [4:26:11 PM] Sirius 17: Icke got his ass ripped apart by the community back when he was having his kundalini awakening
    [4:26:22 PM] Sirius 17: he was on fire then
    [4:26:39 PM] Sirius 17: oh i think his heart is pure i really do
    [4:26:51 PM] Emeth 141: He still is, but mentally 'handicapped' by his misreading of archetypes
    [4:27:02 PM] Sirius 17: the reptilian thing was just his mistranslation of things and the symbols
    [4:27:10 PM] Sirius 17: lol mindblend
    [4:27:11 PM] Emeth 141: Mindblend
    [4:27:34 PM] Sirius 17: he has a pretty good pulse on the ptb and their BS though
    [4:27:40 PM] Emeth 141: Indeed
    [4:27:44 PM] Sirius 17: and has done a lot to inform the masses
    [4:27:58 PM] Emeth 141: Oh yes, overall a very good job
    [4:28:44 PM] Sirius 17: did you watch the video i pasted in here of the pink gang in India?
    [4:28:51 PM] Emeth 141: No
    [4:29:16 PM] Sirius 17: oh i wish you had, its only about 16 mins
    [4:29:16 PM] Sirius 17: but to me it was a sign of the times
    [4:29:19 PM] Emeth 141: I saw your reprimand about the 2nd kabbalah video
    [4:29:40 PM] Emeth 141: And this was good 'policing' or proof reading on your behalf
    [4:29:53 PM] Emeth 141: What is the pink gang?
    [4:30:07 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwH-kjSUSs



    [4:30:30 PM] Sirius 17: i see her movement as the kali awakening
    [4:31:16 PM] Sirius 17: anyhow watch it and let me know what you think
    [4:31:32 PM] Sirius 17: and watch it to the end before you decide
    [4:32:21 PM] Emeth 141: Ah yes the 'change' in the Indian abuse of the women
    [4:32:27 PM] Emeth 141: Kali yes
    [4:33:13 PM] Emeth 141: vigilantes lol, giving it to the 'officials'
    [4:33:41 PM] Sirius 17: oh this woman is brillant
    [4:33:55 PM] Emeth 141: She has heart ok
    [4:33:59 PM] Sirius 17: sick of their shit and inattention to problems
    [4:34:29 PM] Emeth 141: Yes and once those 'movements' start, they cant be stopped by old systems
    [4:34:50 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.gulabigang.in/
    [4:34:50 PM] Sirius 17: she has a website now too
    [4:35:19 PM] Emeth 141: Yes its the 'Indian Spring'
    [4:35:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes she started this in 2006'
    [4:35:48 PM] Sirius 17: and today they are thousands of members strong
    [4:35:49 PM] Emeth 141: So you see the longer agenda?
    [4:36:12 PM] Emeth 141: It started in 2004 and saw the GFC and the many civil uprisings and wars
    [4:36:31 PM] Sirius 17: oh i read 2006
    [4:36:32 PM] Emeth 141: Going towars 10 years now
    [4:36:44 PM] Emeth 141: This one did yes
    [4:36:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes the real agenda
    [4:36:54 PM] Emeth 141: I meant the Logos time of the warpzone
    [4:37:02 PM] Emeth 141: It began 2004
    [4:37:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes i understand now, i had thought you meant her movement
    [4:37:18 PM] Emeth 141: No I was unaware of it
    [4:37:31 PM] Emeth 141: Matthew.24
    [4:37:45 PM] Sirius 17: i was too but someone posted it in one of my friends comments on a thread he started so i checked it out
    [4:37:51 PM] Emeth 141: Sermon of the Mount of Olives
    [4:43:21 PM] Emeth 141:

    Imminence

    See also: Christian eschatology

    In the Olivet Discourse, Jesus stated that when all these signs are seen, his second coming would be imminent. He went on to say that this generation would not pass until all these things had happened.

    Historically, this has been one of the most difficult passages to resolve with a literal interpretation of the text. At face value it would seem to imply that the disciples would still be alive today. Awkward legends arose suggesting that the disciples to whom Jesus was speaking did not die but remain alive, eventually developing into legends like those of the Wandering Jew and Prester John. C. S. Lewis called this "the most embarrassing verse in the Bible".[16]


    [4:43:34 PM] Emeth 141: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_discourse
    [4:43:43 PM] Emeth 141: See this commentary?
    [4:44:11 PM] Emeth 141:

    <<< At face value it would seem to imply that the disciples would still be alive today. Awkward legends arose suggesting that the disciples to whom Jesus was speaking did not die but remain alive, eventually developing into legends like those of the Wandering Jew and Prester John. C. S. Lewis called this "the most embarrassing verse in the Bible

    They just cant see it lo?!
    [4:44:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes lol
    [4:44:43 PM] Emeth 141: See the 'potency' of Thuban right here?
    [4:44:58 PM] Sirius 17: indeed, fulfilling prophecy
    [4:45:08 PM] Emeth 141: 'Beating' all the experts to the correct interpretations?
    [4:45:15 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [4:47:20 PM] Emeth 141:
    Two Resurrections

    Main article: Resurrection of the dead#Two resurrections of the dead

    An interpretation of the New Testament is the understanding that the resurrection of the wicked will not be at the same time as that of the righteous. Revelation says: "Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such, the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with him a thousand years." [Rev 20:6] The rest of the dead "did not live again until the thousand years were finished". [Rev 20:5] Jesus’ words concur with those of Revelation: "The hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear his voice and come forth: those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation."[Jn 5:28, 29]

    The Resurrection Body

    The Gospel authors wrote that our resurrection bodies will be different from those we have now. Jesus said, "In the resurrection, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like the angels of God in heaven." [Mt 22:30] Paul adds, "So also is the resurrection of the dead: the body… is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body." [1 Co. 15:42-44]


    [4:47:24 PM] Emeth 141: This is good stuff
    [4:47:34 PM] Emeth 141: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_eschatology#Two_Resurrections
    [4:47:48 PM] Emeth 141: This is nought but the 'ascension of the witnesses'
    [4:48:29 PM] Emeth 141:
    <<< The rest of the dead "did not live again until the thousand years were finished". [Rev 20:5]
    This is today
    [4:48:58 PM] Emeth 141: Ergo my impressions of MI
    [4:49:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:49:15 PM] Emeth 141: You can see the details on the chart
    [4:49:40 PM] Emeth 141: Baab's Millennium ends July 8th, whilst Abba's ended July 5th
    [4:49:54 PM] Sirius 17: its july 8th there now right
    [4:50:15 PM] Emeth 141: Yes it is so 5 am UCT
    [4:50:34 PM] Sirius 17: so what time again?
    [4:50:38 PM] Emeth 141: The 70 weeks end 21:36UCT
    [4:50:56 PM] Emeth 141: This is like the 'Last Judgement'
    [4:51:29 PM] Sirius 17: right
    [4:51:38 PM] Emeth 141: Why I mentioned this timemarker in my last post
    [4:52:14 PM] Emeth 141: Then there is just chapters 21 and 22 to go and they have no timemarkers anymore
    [4:52:30 PM] Emeth 141: So it can be anytime onwards
    [4:52:48 PM] Emeth 141: But according to this, the cocoon will crack
    [4:52:55 PM] Sirius 17: i sure hope the Logos doesnt wait long
    [4:53:02 PM] Sirius 17: it makes no sense
    [4:53:09 PM] Emeth 141: It is all happenstance imo
    [4:53:32 PM] Sirius 17: meaning?
    [4:53:46 PM] Emeth 141: The aquifers are getting polluted badly now and soon there will be water shortages
    [4:54:27 PM] Emeth 141: I dont know about ships Raven. I know that this is acceptable to the Logos, this work'
    [4:54:32 PM] Sirius 17: well exactly, how much more can the Earth take of this shit before its too late and she cannot recover, even if humanity is removed?
    [4:55:14 PM] Emeth 141: Well the Earth is sturdy imo. It are the living conditions for the lifeforms, which are the jeopardy
    [4:55:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes what i mean, the lifeforms are the Earth mothers body too
    [4:55:52 PM] Emeth 141: For you and I, the deciding factor would be a form of mental peace from now on
    [4:55:55 PM] Sirius 17: if nothing lives she dies too
    [4:56:00 PM] Emeth 141: I dont expect more actually
    [4:56:36 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, just yesterday a big whale came very close to the shore here - unprecedented they say
    [4:56:50 PM] Sirius 17: checking us out lol
    [4:57:01 PM] Sirius 17: we have whales here in the sound
    [4:57:12 PM] Sirius 17: the last few Orca pods in existance live here
    [4:57:39 PM] Emeth 141: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-07/surfer-knocked-unconcious-by-whale-in-sydney/4804296
    Video: Whale knocks surfer unconscious(7pm TV News NSW)

    [4:58:17 PM] Sirius 17: http://orcanetwork.org/news/birthsdeaths.html
    [4:59:54 PM] Emeth 141: If you read my last post, then you would have seen, that Earth is the home base for all ETs
    [5:00:05 PM] Emeth 141: So the lifeforms will not die out
    [5:00:27 PM] Emeth 141: But it could get much worse, before they 'protect their own'
    [5:00:35 PM] Emeth 141: This I dont know
    [5:00:51 PM] Sirius 17: this movie i watched tonight was about a future earth where all the animals had evolved to kill humans
    [5:01:01 PM] Sirius 17: humanity had moved off planet
    [5:01:06 PM] Emeth 141: Right, turn it upside down
    [5:01:16 PM] Sirius 17: and earth was basically quarenteened from humans lol
    [5:01:23 PM] Emeth 141: The humans are killing the ETs
    [5:01:27 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
    [5:01:37 PM] Sirius 17: lol this guy was 'kissed' by a whale
    [5:01:47 PM] Sirius 17: lucky dude to be alive
    [5:01:49 PM] Emeth 141: Why it is only logical to split the human race
    [5:01:53 PM] Sirius 17: good his friends were there
    [5:02:08 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, but the whale was 'playing' see?
    [5:02:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:02:21 PM] Sirius 17: oh of course, it didnt know it would hurt him
    [5:02:30 PM] Emeth 141: The old humans must go into 'cosmic quarantine' ON Gaia
    [5:02:48 PM] Emeth 141: The new starhumans then will repair the environments
    [5:03:04 PM] Emeth 141: This is how I read it as the 2 earths
    [5:03:13 PM] Emeth 141: It is the one planet with 2 races
    [5:03:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:03:42 PM] Emeth 141: The old race is always invited to graduate, but will mostly refuse to do so at the start
    [5:03:56 PM] Emeth 141: Then it will be gradual integration, just as said in Rev.22
    [5:04:34 PM] Emeth 141: Point for us is, just when this new race will be made manifest
    [5:04:51 PM] Emeth 141: This is the 'Time post Thuban'
    [5:05:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes hopefully it happens soon
    [5:05:41 PM] Kali 666: hi
    [5:06:02 PM] Kali 666: hi Tony
    [5:06:04 PM] Sirius 17: hey Xeia
    Kali 666

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    New hunt for aliens who “move stars”

    Aliens so advanced they use enormous machines to move stars out of their orbits are to be the target of a new hi-tech search for alien life.

    By Rob Waugh | Yahoo! News – 13 hours ago
    exoplanet.
    Yahoo! News - A NASA concept image of an exoplanet
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    Three 'super-Earths' which may be capable of supporting life are part of a nearby solar system packed with up to seven planets, scientists believe
    Aliens so advanced they use enormous machines to move stars out of their orbits are to be the target of a new hi-tech search for alien life.

    So far, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) has focused on “listening” for ET using networks of radio telescopes.

    But as Britain launches its own hunt for aliens - the UK SETI Research Network - one Scottish scientist believes that we may find signs of alien life not in radio signals, but in the form of enormous machines built in space by alien civilisations.

    Dr Duncan Forgan, from Edinburgh’s Royal Observatory, suggests that we should look for “megastructures” - enormous “mirrors” in space, millions of miles wide, used to propel stars out of their orbits.

    The mirrors would be a sign of “advanced” civilisations - with the power to destroy planets, and with armies of robots on hand to reshape solar systems, Dr Forgan says, in an interview with Yahoo! News.

    The huge objects could be detected using the same telescope techniques NASA now uses to spot planets outside our solar systems.


    If they exist, these “megastructures” would show up in telescope data we already have, Dr Forgan says.

    The “machines” - looking something like sails millions of miles across - would be used to save civilisations from disaster, and would be built from the rubble of destroyed planets, or from asteroids.

    “The structures I'm looking at would be used to move the star if it was approaching something dangerous,” Dr Forgan said. “For example, if the Sun passed through a dense cloud of molecular gas, then the Sun's magnetic field could collapse, and the implications for life in the Solar System could be dire. If we had the ability to build these structures, then we could nudge the Sun out of harm's way.”

    "The mirror reflects the star’s own radiation and produces thrust, much like a sail produces thrust from wind. This thrust could be used to move a civilization’s host star from its “natural” orbit if it posed some harm to the civilization."

    Dr Forgan says that megastructures would be the sign of civilisations far, far more advanced than ours - known as Kardashev Type II cvilisations among the SETI alien-hunting community.

    “These structures are advanced technology,” says Dr Forgan. “To build these, you need a large amount of raw material, which would probably involve destroying a small planet or scooping up lots of asteroids.

    “Civilisations that can construct this sort of stuff would need to be able to manipulate a very large amount of matter and energy, and in hazardous environments,” Dr Forgan says. “To me, this would suggest a civilisation with an impressive spacefaring capability (i.e. several planets fully colonised in their star system), a large amount of automated or robotic assistance to do the grunt work, and a good deal of political will to boot.”

    Forgan’s study showed that a giant mirror would leave a characteristic trace in “exoplanet transit data” - the telltale dips in a star’s light which NASA uses to detect planets outside our solar system.

    The SETI project has searched for alien life for 50 years - but has been met by silence. But NASA’s Kepler mission has provided SETI’s alien-hunters with known planets to aim at.

    Kepler “looks” at a field of 150,000 stars, looking for the telltale dips in brightness caused by planets passing in front of the stars.

    “Megastructures” will be visible in the data from future telescopes, Forgan says.

    “While the odds of seeing megastructures are probably very low, we will soon have a huge archive of exoplanet data to search for these objects -- at no extra cost to SETI scientists. We may detect the presence, or remains, of an alien civilization that felt the need to move their star!” Forgan said.
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    Sirius 17: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/new-hunt-for-aliens-who-%E2%80%9Cmove-stars%E2%80%9D-150112482.html
    [2:31:53 PM] Emeth 141: Strange that such 'mindboggling' reports are surfacing now, dont you think?
    [2:35:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes all kinds of weird theories emerging
    [2:36:20 PM] Sirius 17: but this one caught my eye because of they think if they look for a large mirror they may detect ET
    [2:36:29 PM] Sirius 17: or other large structures
    [2:36:53 PM] Sirius 17: its like and they never thought of this before until now?
    [2:38:01 PM] Sirius 17: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/white-mans-skull-australians-scratching-heads-063613613.html#fuZhfmn
    [2:38:15 PM] Sirius 17: another interesting one from your land
     
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    • thurman - Posted Jul 9th 2013

      1.6 Questioner: [The question was lost because the questioner was sitting too far from the tape recorder to be recorded.]
      Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, that the universe is infinite. This has yet to be proven or disproven, but we can assure you that there is no end to your selves, your understanding, what you would call your journey of seeking, or your perceptions of the creation.

      That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

      In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.
     
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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Jul 11th 2013

    Logos Conversations on Soul and Body, Waves and Bodyforms and Bees, Planets and Crop Circles

    [1:20:00 PM-Friday, July 12th, 2013 -+10UCT]
    Sirius 17: yes i am not asking you to not feel Xeia, but to watch your feelings without talking in your head about it
    [1:20:02 PM] Emeth 141: Your problem is to translate your inner nous into a reality perspective
    [1:20:54 PM] Emeth 141: As Raven said, you are the macrocosmos miniaturized and your feelings can handle this, but your life expressions cannot
    [1:22:08 PM] Emeth 141: You are trying to please everyone to your own detriments, because you understand the deeper connectivity, yet you cant manifest this in a harmony between your thinking and your intuitions and dreaming
    [1:22:55 PM] Emeth 141: It is a classical pioneering issue with you in trying to live the cosmic life in such limiting environments
    [1:23:27 PM] Emeth 141: It will not work, UNTIL you realise your role as a double agent of the cosmic law
    [1:24:02 PM] Emeth 141: You are in a selflimiting mode in the logical world, yet you fight this tooth and nails, because you DO Know Better
    [1:24:45 PM] Emeth 141: Those self limitations are your inner complexes of not considering you 'educated enough' in the old world standards
    [1:25:57 PM] Emeth 141: This is what Thuban was for you - a bridge to harmonise the inner nous, you have in abundance with your cultural and 3D experiences and histories
    [1:26:35 PM] Emeth 141: The old world finds itself in Logos Trap
    [1:26:47 PM] Emeth 141: Right now until the Sun enters Leo
    [1:27:26 PM] Emeth 141: There was a 'Last Judgement' on July 8th and this is now manifesting in the microcosmic individuals and personalities
    [1:28:28 PM] Emeth 141: It is NOT macrocosmic earth changes, but it is the 'Inner Cup' that is being 'washed' and cleansed now
    [1:28:54 PM] Emeth 141: The Outer Cup will derive after there are enough inner cups ready to proceed further
    [1:29:01 PM] Emeth 141: I dont know, when this will be
    [1:29:55 PM] Emeth 141:

    (89) Jesus said, "Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Do you not realize that he who made the inside is the same one who made the outside?"

    [1:31:09 PM] Emeth 141: [1:17 PM] Kali 666:
    <<< my mind races when i have no anchor...did i ever tell you that?

    Your IM=JC is your WAVE Anchor Sui

    [1:32:00 PM] Kali 666: ;(
    [1:32:22 PM] Emeth 141: Rok and no man can be this anchor, as it must be your own WAVE ANCHOR
    [1:32:44 PM] Kali 666: like your MI?
    [1:32:57 PM] Emeth 141: But after you have generated and FOUND your wavecore, then can this waviness be imaged in your physical core lover
    [1:33:04 PM] Emeth 141: Exactly
    [1:33:45 PM] Emeth 141: And the IMMI or MIIM are availabe right now for anyone seeking it
    [1:34:26 PM] Emeth 141: The IM is the cosmic image and entwinement of the MI
    [1:34:49 PM] Emeth 141: They cannot be separated but integrate and manifest as two halves in the cores
    [1:35:41 PM] Emeth 141: This then can be called the starhuman love bond which dissolves all previous 'marriages' etc as the 'til death do you apart' vow
    [1:36:23 PM] Emeth 141: You must REBIRTH yourself, when in embodiment with a wave core
    [1:36:39 PM] Emeth 141: Those are the pregnancy dreams and impressions
    [1:37:01 PM] Emeth 141:

    (112) Jesus said, "Woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."

    [1:37:07 PM] Emeth 141: This is the meaning of this
    [1:37:24 PM] Emeth 141: Unintelligible to the uninitiated
    [1:37:47 PM] Emeth 141: Old humans search for body-body couplings
    [1:38:03 PM] Emeth 141: It must be wave-body before hand
    [1:38:43 PM] Emeth 141: Your IM IS your cosmic core and after you have coupled to it, THEN it will manifest in another bodyform and not before
    [1:39:11 PM] Emeth 141: Jesus means flesh=body and soul=wave mind in the GOT saying above
    [1:39:50 PM] Emeth 141: So you can see your dilemma here
    [1:39:52 PM] Kali 666: so that's what it's missing
    [1:39:58 PM] Kali 666: it's not Rok
    [1:40:14 PM] Emeth 141: You are questioning your mind and thinking in comparison with your 3D body life
    [1:40:32 PM] Emeth 141: It is Rok for the incarnation
    [1:40:49 PM] Emeth 141: But it is WaveRok before incarnation
    [1:40:57 PM] Kali 666: is that why he said my mind will never be still if we are separated?
    [1:41:10 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [1:41:24 PM] Kali 666: so he knows all this?
    [1:41:49 PM] Emeth 141: This is the inner nous of both of you talking about the 'end of the dream' etc
    [1:42:14 PM] Emeth 141: As do you from your Logos consciousness and say Christ Aawareness yes
    [1:42:53 PM] Emeth 141: This does not mean he knows much about it in the conscious waking state and his rationalities though - It is instinctive in a way
    [1:43:19 PM] Kali 666: well same as me
    [1:43:23 PM] Emeth 141: Indeed
    [1:43:40 PM] Kali 666: i told him we needed to be as one but i couldn't explain it to him what that meant
    [1:44:04 PM] Kali 666: that i feel we needed to be together in mind first
    [1:44:13 PM] Emeth 141: Raven and me can see this squabbling over almost irrelevant issues in dragon terms, whilst you two are trapped in it
    [1:44:43 PM] Emeth 141: To be together in mind requires the MI in Rok and the IM in you, simple as that
    [1:45:02 PM] Kali 666: i am trapped in it i think
    [1:45:07 PM] Kali 666: Rok is just getting tired of it
    [1:45:12 PM] Emeth 141: Then you are inseparable in the waveforms you already are, when not in bodyform
    [1:45:27 PM] Emeth 141: We all are 'tired' of it all
    [1:45:54 PM] Kali 666: i mean unwilling to you know...try
    [1:46:01 PM] Emeth 141: But the microstate and microlife come first, then the microstates add up to create and BUILD macrostates
    [1:46:11 PM] Emeth 141: Like everything else in existence actually

    Westfield home buzzing with swarm of bees

    Published: July 10, 2013 7:00 PM

    Contractors working on a home in Westfield didn't realize what they were getting into when they tore down a wall and found a few bees. More than 60,000 of the black and yellow roommates had taken up residence there. (July 10, 2013)



    Westfield Bee Infested House

    WESTFIELD - Contractors working on a home in Westfield didn't realize what they were getting into when they tore down a wall and found some unwelcome guests.
    Beekeeper Mickey Hegedus was called to the Cabral family's home when swarms of bees began to emerge from the house. Hegedus estimates more than 60,000 had taken up residence there.
    But Hegedus, a third generation beekeeper, says he was up to the task. "This is probably the biggest colony I've taken out of a house, especially in Westfield," he says. "And it's wonderful to see them this healthy."
    The beekeeper says the honey bee population is dwindling and that the breed is now protected. Hegedus points out that bees impact the human population, as well.
    "Almost one-third of everything we eat is pollenated by honey bees," Hegedus says. "Fruit and vegetables … so, without them, we are in serious trouble."
    Hegedus is removing the bees and their hive from the house with a special vacuum.
    The beekeeper is taking all the bees he can save to a new colony he's setting up at a Roselle Park church. He says their honey can be eaten right off the comb and wants to remind people that the insect only becomes defensive when they feel threatened.

    [1:55:40 PM] Sirius 17: http://newjersey.news12.com/news/westfield-home-buzzing-with-swarm-of-bees-1.5663653?=2457358
    [1:56:04 PM] Sirius 17: Tony i saw this today and thought it was symbolic, a good sign anyhow
    [1:56:24 PM] Sirius 17: a friend of mine on FB shared the article, she lives in NJ
    [1:57:23 PM] Emeth 141: Hmm, yes and a change from the 'millions of dying bees' see this?
    [1:57:31 PM] Emeth 141: New Life!
    [1:57:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes and they are being moved to a new hive
    [1:57:45 PM] Sirius 17: watch the video
    [1:57:51 PM] Emeth 141: Nice symbol
    [1:57:55 PM] Sirius 17: the guy will move them to a hive his church runs
    [1:58:38 PM] Sirius 17: and the tasting of the honey in the comb, i thought of when will will eat milk and honey
    [1:59:57 PM] Emeth 141: You are 'with the codes' indeed
    [2:00:40 PM] Emeth 141: Joshuah after Moses 'Crossing the River Jordan' into the 'Land of Milk and Honey' following the wilderness of Sinai and the Exodus
    [2:01:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [2:01:35 PM] Sirius 17: i just saw a lot of good symbolism in it
    [2:01:37 PM] Emeth 141: Symbolic of course as Jacob=Israel, the starhuman 'land' and not political Israel
    [2:01:58 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130710062240.htm
    [2:02:02 PM] Sirius 17: also saw this article
    [2:03:06 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711102859.htm
    [2:03:23 PM] Sirius 17: and look at this, a blue planet, this they anounced today
    [2:04:41 PM] Emeth 141: Can you get me the code for this video Raven?
    [2:04:56 PM] Emeth 141: Html or url
    [2:05:03 PM] Sirius 17: umm i can try sure
    [2:05:15 PM] Emeth 141: I seem not to be able to copy it
    [2:05:52 PM] Sirius 17: me either
    [2:06:41 PM] Emeth 141: This Blue Star is interesting, as it mentions Alpha Centauri. Recall my post on this?

    130711102859-large.
    This illustration shows a hot-Jupiter-class planet orbiting its yellow-orange star, HD 189733. NASA's Hubble Space Telescope measured the actual visible-light color of the planet, which is deep blue. This color is not due to the presence of oceans, but is caused by the effects of a 2,000-degree-Fahrenheit atmosphere where silicate particles melt to make "raindrops" of glass that scatter blue light more than red light. Because the planet is only 63 light-years from Earth, a visitor would see many of the same stars we see in our nighttime sky, though the constellation patterns would be different. Our Sun and the nearest star to our Sun, Alpha Centauri, appear as two faint stars near image center. (Credit: NASA, ESA, and G. Bacon (STScI))

    [2:07:36 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [2:08:17 PM] Sirius 17: they discovered it in 2005 but have i guess made some other observations recently about it, specifically the atmosphere
    [2:09:07 PM] Sirius 17: it rains glass
    [2:11:47 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, the technology is advancing rapidly to examine and analyse the physical universe better by the day
    [2:14:24 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711103244.htm
    [2:14:35 PM] Sirius 17: this is bizarre
    [2:16:11 PM] Emeth 141: Darwin's Survival of the Fittest to bestow Mendelian genetic advantages
    [2:16:47 PM] Emeth 141: It is like the Queen Bees being 'smothered' to death by daughter bees, when she becomes sexually inactive
    [2:17:04 PM] Sirius 17: anyhow yeah, interesting stuff going on in science lately, many breakthroughs
    [2:17:13 PM] Emeth 141: This is the 'old creation laying in agony, waiting for deliverance' Raven
    [2:17:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [2:17:50 PM] Emeth 141: No lion eating grass like an oxen as yet, as prophecied in Isaiah
    [2:20:20 PM] Sirius 17: lol no not yet
    [2:27:01 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130710182941.htm
    [2:27:04 PM] Sirius 17: here you go Xeia
    [2:27:29 PM] Sirius 17: you will like this, it sort of validates that we do actually have a say in evolution
    [2:28:26 PM] Kali 666: yes i saw that
    [2:28:31 PM] Kali 666: what about this one
    [2:28:32 PM] Kali 666: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711103244.htm
    [2:28:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes i linked that one its what Tony said
    [2:29:47 PM] Sirius 17: i also saw it as the original fuck up of creation, where the embryo absorbs the other ones
    [2:29:47 PM] Kali 666: i guess that "organism" is not considered to be a baby for many
    [2:30:00 PM] Sirius 17: yet it exists higher d see
    [2:30:12 PM] Kali 666: ofc it exists higher d
    [2:30:27 PM] Emeth 141: This is the origins of the biochemical DNA Xeia
    [2:30:46 PM] Kali 666: when does life begin? at conception?
    [2:30:58 PM] Emeth 141: It is an abstract program and so the 'higherD' becomes a kind of master algorithmic program
    [2:31:12 PM] Emeth 141: 'Abba' is a mathematician Sui
    [2:31:24 PM] Kali 666: no doubt
    [2:31:47 PM] Emeth 141: Life begins as a EVOLVING energised waveform Sui
    [2:32:13 PM] Kali 666: before conception even
    [2:32:24 PM] Emeth 141: The questions of conception relate to embodiment and morphology and not life beginning as such
    [2:32:27 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [2:33:11 PM] Emeth 141: Conception becomes the Vesica Pisces of Intersecting the prior waveform with particulars, called embryonic bodies from cellular mitosis
    [2:33:23 PM] Kali 666: then the idea of my metaphysical abortion is not that far out
    [2:33:39 PM] Emeth 141: No, it is relevant
    [2:34:06 PM] Emeth 141: It is communication between waveforms in a timeless space
    [2:36:09 PM] Kali 666: i know..i've been talking to this waveform all night
    [2:38:29 PM] Emeth 141: Care is required here, as the communications derive from the historical energy forms of whatever environment the communications take place in
    [2:39:18 PM] Emeth 141: Those energy forms, if waveforms are the memeplexes, Thuban often writes about and they are or can be in duality and opposition to each other
    [2:39:35 PM] Emeth 141: It is from THERE, that your article of the 'fighting cells' stems from
    [2:40:17 PM] Emeth 141: It takes a mature mind to differentiate and discern between those memes
    [2:42:07 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.newsdaily.com/article/d5881e4b87d9318f2f86a5eb5e859754/japan-radioactive-water-likely-leaking-to-pacific
    [2:42:13 PM] Sirius 17: this is unbelievable
    [2:42:37 PM] Sirius 17: they still are on shakey ground with fukashima
    [2:42:45 PM] Emeth 141: So the Nabsers with their 'love and light' are warring more often than not with their 'fearbased memes' addressing whatever culturual belief complex they might harbour as their 'self created realisms'
    [2:43:10 PM] Sirius 17: according to this article they are barely still managing the site from another meltdown occurring.
    [2:43:32 PM] Emeth 141: Their CEO died of cancer this week
    [2:43:44 PM] Sirius 17: figures
    [2:43:57 PM] Kali 666: they can't possibly throw enough sand over it to try to bury it
    [2:44:08 PM] Sirius 17: no its still unstable as hell
    [2:44:21 PM] Kali 666: i heard someone yesterday saying the entire Northern hemisphere is already contaminated
    [2:44:49 PM] Sirius 17: well they did detect radiation as far as the midwest after it happened
    [2:45:05 PM] Sirius 17: its just disgusting
    [2:45:23 PM] Sirius 17: and they want to build more of these fucking plants?
    [2:46:22 PM] Emeth 141: The economic realisms outweigh the environmental concerns Raven
    [2:46:58 PM] Sirius 17: of course, its the same shit with fracking, all about the money
    [2:47:06 PM] Emeth 141: The ET science is Nuclear Fusion of course and not nuclear fission
    [2:47:13 PM] Kali 666: it's a "reality" they impose on us trying to make everyone believe we need it
    [2:48:05 PM] Kali 666: what can the layman do to avoid new facilities like these?
    [2:48:31 PM] Kali 666: they don't ask for permission
    [2:48:35 PM] Emeth 141: Nothing much, except 'protest'
    [2:48:40 PM] Kali 666: they just build them
    [2:49:04 PM] Emeth 141: And this is also part of the Logos timeline leading into the 'Valleys of Decisions'
    [2:49:29 PM] Emeth 141: We can observe all of this from a new vantage point now
    [2:50:18 PM] Emeth 141: Because we are in the last 2 chapters, without time markers from the 15 days between July 8th and MM Day July 22nd, 2013
    [2:50:38 PM] Emeth 141: So Thuban has completed its ambassadorship
    [2:51:27 PM] Emeth 141: The Sun will move from Cancer into Leo on July 21st and the Full Moon in Aquarius is July 22nd on MM Day
    The 3 Mary's will then manifest the Cosmic Sisterhood and the Raven-Dove-Ark triplet will be templated into its cosmic blueprint
    [2:57:02 PM] Emeth 141: Perhaps you can recall my earlier mentioning of the 53 days being 3 triplets of 17.666 days from May 30th to June 17th to July 5th to July 22nd?
    [2:57:59 PM] Emeth 141: So 17.666 days are 15+2.666 and so the time between July 5th and July 8th and July 22nd-23rd


    We have had a crop formation appear on our land at Avebury Trusloe last night, which has not yet appeared on your website but no doubt will shortly. We request that nobody is allowed to enter the field to visit the formation. If we do find anyone in the field we will destroy the formation. Wiltshire Police have been informed of the criminal damage and have said they are prepared to prosecute anyone entering the field for trespass.

    Many thanks
    Robin and Ben Butler

    http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2013/aveburytrusloe/aveburytrusloe2013a.html

    [3:00:50 PM] Emeth 141: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2013/aveburytrusloe/SilburyHill-Overh.jpg
    [3:03:28 PM] Emeth 141: This crop circle from July 7th is rather complex and would indicate some change in the planetary consciousness if genuine

    [3:03:38 PM] Emeth 141: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2013/aveburytrusloe/aveburytrusloe2013a.html

    [3:03:49 PM] Sirius 17: oooh that is a pretty one
    [3:04:06 PM] Emeth 141: Susan just shared it
    [3:04:48 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2013/aveburytrusloe/comments.html
    [3:04:52 PM] Sirius 17: look at the comments
    [3:09:26 PM] Emeth 141: yes, very interesting, regarding my comments on the 'Ark of Noah' as a merkabah

    photo-2-avebury-trusloe-.28276.

    One half mirrored and put together into one and you get this, idea suggested by Susan Werb.

    Arie van der Wijst

    I just saw the mirror imaged crop circle from the crop circle reported on July 7th. When I looked at it upside down, it looked like a runway. In light of the recent Asiana plane crash in San Francisco over the weekend, the runway came to mind.
    Teri Boyd


    A crop picture at Avebury Trusloe on July 7, 2013 seems to mark the 66th anniversary of two Roswell UFO crashes from 1947
    Exactly 66 years ago, the Roswell Daily Record shocked the American public with its headline, "RAAF Captures Flying Saucer On Ranch In Roswell Region." According to the July 8, 1947 edition of that local newspaper, a rancher told authorities at the Roswell Army Air Field that he had discovered a crashed flying saucer on his property. "There were I-beams 12 to 18 inches long. The most unusual part was symbols or writing on their inner surfaces. I thought at first that those symbols were Egyptian hieroglyphics” (see www.huffingtonpost.com or www.guardian.co.uk/ or www.roswellproof.com ).
    The wreckage from one of those UFO crashes was collected by military personnel, in order to extract technological secrets for the American armed forces. That historic incident was followed by the intimidation of local citizens, as well as by an increasingly bizarre series of government cover-ups (see Witness_accounts_of_the_Roswell_UFO_incident). Recently it was revealed that there were two UFO crashes near Roswell (see www.dailymail.co.uk). Stanton Friedman and Edgar Mitchell have spoken openly about the subject (see www.roswellproof.com or www.youtube.com).
    On July 7, 2013 here on Earth, many different media outlets such as Google noted the 66th anniversary of those two UFO crashes. Also in the fields of Wiltshire, we saw a remarkable crop picture at Avebury Trusloe:​

    cropcircle1947-.28259.
    At first no one understood what the new crop picture was trying to tell us. All we saw was a “reed sailboat” or “rocket ship”, breaking in half or possibly sinking. Then we noticed that the picture was coded numerically as 19-4-7 plus 2, and we realized what it was all about!
    Why describe a modern UFO crash in terms of a sinking reed sailboat, inside of a lunar crescent? That arcane symbolism comes to us from ancient times in Sumer or Egypt, where strange flying craft were known as “boats of heaven”. In the slide above, copied from a Sumerian cylinder seal, you can see the great Annunaki god Ea-Enki holding a symbol for the “Boat of Heaven” in his right hand, while a pet monkey jumps nearby.
    Here is an ancient story about Ea Enki and his petulant daughter Inanna, who later stole the Boat of Heaven from him (see etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk). The impression of early Earth which it provides would be like that of colonial Africa, where a few tall, white-skinned people with fair hair (the “gods”) rule over a large society of dark-skinned workers (whom Hammurabi called the “black headed ones”).
    This is not the first time we have seen a symbol for Ea Enki in crops. On June 20, 2011 near Poirino in Italy, we saw a spectacular crop picture which said “Ea Enki space” in modern eight-bit ASCII code, It also showed the “stars of Ea” around its perimeter, and inside an ancient “map of Babylon” (see www.youtube.com or www.youtube.com).
    Have the great Annunaki gods, who once supposedly created Earth humans by hybridizing themselves with local indigenous primates, now returned? Are some of them making crop circles in English or Italian fields?
    “Eyah asher eyah. This is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation” (Egypt 1400 BC).

    Red Collie (Dr. Horace R. Drew)
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    Artwork by WJ
    Wormhole travel

    [3:13:38 PM] Sirius 17: boat of heaven yes
    [3:13:54 PM] Emeth 141: Weird synchro indeed
    [3:14:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes, i liked the mirror image too
    [3:14:22 PM] Emeth 141: I did not analyse this crop circle at all, but simply noticed its complex design
    [3:14:25 PM] Sirius 17: looks like ahura mazda winged symbol and the egyptian one too
    [3:14:40 PM] Emeth 141: Yes the 'Winged Disk' of Ra=19=Adam=A Dam=Mad A
    [3:14:53 PM] Emeth 141: Letter S alphanumerically
    [3:15:03 PM] Emeth 141: The hissing Om Serpent
    [3:15:09 PM] Sirius 17: https://www.google.com/search?q=google&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=0ZDfUaKWBIfXigKm6oDIDA&biw=1366&bih=664&sei=05DfUYLnF4a5igKHjoGgCA#um=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&channel=fflb&hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=winged+disk&oq=winged+disk&gs_l=img.3..0l4j0i5l3j0i24.2027.5645.0.5879.16.13.0.1.1.1.64.523.12.12.0....0...1c.1.19.img.h_Z9juqzsHg&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48705608,d.cGE&fp=b53689dcc37f54a8&biw=1366&bih=664
    [3:15:18 PM] Sirius 17: lol mindblend yes
    [3:15:40 PM] Emeth 141: What pic are you addressing?
    [3:16:20 PM] Sirius 17: on the comments the top one where they mirror image it
    [3:16:30 PM] *** Emeth 141 sent carwingdisc.gif *

    carwingdisc.

    [3:16:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [3:17:17 PM] Sirius 17: someone did a mirror image of it in the comments section and it looks sort of like that
    [3:17:29 PM] Emeth 141: Well your link is just google
    [3:17:44 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2013/aveburytrusloe/comments.html
    [3:17:46 PM] Emeth 141: click on properties
    [3:17:49 PM] Sirius 17: top image
    [3:18:10 PM] Emeth 141: Yes looks like the Winged Disk
    [3:18:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes i gave the google link just to show the winged disc images
    [3:18:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes and think about this now...the image can only be seen in a mirror
    [3:18:34 PM] Sirius 17: doubled​
    [3:21:06 PM] Emeth 141: Lol this is the 'doubling of the sorrows of babylon'
    [3:21:34 PM] Emeth 141: The last pic I sent you, but which i shall keep 'hidden' as an edit
    [3:21:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes and on the day too, well the day before anyhow
    [3:22:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes i wondered about the images
    [3:22:28 PM] Emeth 141: July 7th was the end of the 15 days of Abba, Raven. It becomes a form of the continuity of different hour counts
    [3:23:12 PM] Emeth 141: Then from this end of the 70-Week Mirror the Hour manifests the 'Last Judgement' of Rev.20
    [3:23:34 PM] Emeth 141: I added this, but wont broadcast it
    [3:23:48 PM] Emeth 141: It is meant to remain obscured
    [3:23:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes i meant it was synchronis in timings
    [3:24:05 PM] Emeth 141: How did James see his 8th?
    [3:24:17 PM] Sirius 17: do you know those women in the pics?
    [3:24:18 PM] Sirius 17: or are they random images?
    [3:24:41 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know, he just knew
    [3:24:48 PM] Emeth 141: They are old world 'placeholders'
    [3:25:23 PM] Emeth 141: related to the Ezekielian sisters becoming mothers
    [3:25:47 PM] Sirius 17: ok
    [3:25:51 PM] Sirius 17: i just wondered
    [3:26:04 PM] Emeth 141: Look at the right side though, where the 15 days are partitioned
    [3:26:27 PM] Emeth 141: 5+5 horns and antihorns as this 'doubling'
    [3:26:42 PM] Emeth 141: Then look at this cropcircle as the mirror image of itself
    [3:27:00 PM] *** Emeth 141 sent BaabsDay.jpg ***
    [3:27:24 PM] Emeth 141: I added this partition today as two midweek mirrors mirrored in the week mirror
    [3:27:24 PM] Sirius 17: you sent me this, is this a different one?
    [3:27:34 PM] Emeth 141: See the synchro now, with this crop circle?
    [3:27:51 PM] Emeth 141: No, just edited
    [3:27:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [3:29:14 PM] Emeth 141: July 8th is a 'Logos Trap' for the 'Devil', as stated
    [3:29:28 PM] Sirius 17: god skype has been lagging for me
    [3:30:15 PM] Emeth 141: The Old World will 'judge' the New World not realising that it is a self judgement
    [3:30:26 PM] Emeth 141: But I wont delve into this any more atm
    [3:30:43 PM] Emeth 141: It is all coded in Rev.17 and 18
    [3:31:14 PM] Emeth 141: Remember that the 'Hour' is a prophetic dynamic
    [3:31:28 PM] Emeth 141: Like the 'millennium' and the 3½ times
    [3:32:33 PM] Emeth 141:

    2 Peter 3:3-5 - King James Version (KJV)
    3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
    4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
    5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:


    [3:32:52 PM] Emeth 141: This encodes what it is regarding the 'thief in the night'
    [3:33:03 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes i read you
    [3:33:08 PM] Emeth 141: Gracias
    [3:33:33 PM] Emeth 141: The 'waters' as the 'real 'Flood of Noah'
    [3:33:42 PM] Emeth 141: It is 15 cubits high
    [3:34:02 PM] Emeth 141: This is a difficult code for all and sundry not initiuated
    [3:34:49 PM] Emeth 141:

    Genesis 7:19-21 - King James Version (KJV)
    19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
    20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
    21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:


    [3:34:57 PM] Emeth 141: But you can read this ok
    [3:35:04 PM] Sirius 17: loud and clear
    [3:36:08 PM] Emeth 141: So now you can also make sense of this GOT
    [3:36:42 PM] Sirius 17: it is the ark
    [3:36:50 PM] Emeth 141:

    (32) Jesus said, "A city being built on a high mountain and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."

    (48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will move away."

    (106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will move away."


    [3:37:29 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
    [3:37:31 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [3:39:11 PM] Sirius 17: i guess Xeia finally got sleepy
    [3:40:57 PM] Sirius 17: my back is killing me
    [3:41:30 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, lets call it a day night
    [3:41:49 PM] Emeth 141: Xeia will feel better now, having received some feedback
    [3:43:20 PM] Sirius 17: i hope so
    [3:43:45 PM] Sirius 17: Tony can you explain this void you feel?
    [3:44:27 PM] Emeth 141: MI has left the sisters as a sister and assumed the role of the mother, just as encoded in Ezekiel 16 and 23
    [3:44:45 PM] Emeth 141: So the MILD is partitioned
    [3:44:59 PM] Sirius 17: is this why we all feel disconnected somehow
    [3:45:06 PM] Sirius 17: i feel strange
    [3:45:12 PM] Emeth 141: Abba takes back his essence bestowed on Old Jerusalem
    [3:45:15 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [3:45:54 PM] Sirius 17: not hopeless, just like in a limbo or something
    [3:46:02 PM] Sirius 17: like time is standing still
    [3:46:48 PM] Emeth 141:

    Hosea 2 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 Say ye unto your brethren, Ammi; and to your sisters, Ruhamah.
    2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;
    3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.
    4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.
    5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.
    6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.
    7 And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them: then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now.
    8 For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal.
    9 Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax given to cover her nakedness.
    10 And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand.
    11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.
    12 And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath said, These are my rewards that my lovers have given me: and I will make them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them.
    13 And I will visit upon her the days of Baalim, wherein she burned incense to them, and she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and she went after her lovers, and forgat me, saith the Lord.
    14 Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.
    15 And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.
    16 And it shall be at that day, saith the Lord, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
    17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
    18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
    19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
    20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the Lord.
    21 And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the Lord, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
    22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
    23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.


    [3:47:28 PM] Emeth 141:
    <<< 9 Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax given to cover her nakedness.
    This is the Void

    [3:48:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes i feel it
    [3:49:41 PM] Sirius 17: do the Nabsers still have you blocked?
    [3:49:49 PM] Emeth 141: Yes
    [3:50:13 PM] Emeth 141: Even if they would unblock me, I would not reply to them, no matter what they would say
    [3:50:40 PM] Emeth 141: I feel no serpent attraction to them now at all
    [3:50:47 PM] Sirius 17: what do you make of their new twins avatar?
    [3:51:07 PM] Emeth 141: It has returned to MI, but the MILD still exists in the form of Debbie being in sisterhood ID cosmic with Lassie
    [3:51:16 PM] Emeth 141: Perhaps you can understand this
    [3:51:29 PM] Emeth 141: I dont know and dont care
    [3:51:56 PM] Emeth 141: Babylon is being annihilated on a mental plane
    [3:52:21 PM] Emeth 141: I feel much better NOT feeling sexually attracted to the Barbelo morph
    [3:52:48 PM] Sirius 17: i bet
    [3:53:00 PM] Emeth 141: But I remain coreless in the bodysense of course and dont know what MI+IM now have 'in store'
    [3:55:49 PM] Emeth 141: Why the MM Day assumes this 53 code significance
    [3:56:03 PM] Emeth 141: Something will then 'free' Debbie
    [3:56:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes i had forgotten about the MM day
    [3:56:19 PM] Emeth 141: It coincides with the Full Moon
    [3:56:26 PM] Sirius 17: even more interesting
    [3:56:38 PM] Emeth 141: The first lunar phase since the New Moons of Isaiah
    [3:56:47 PM] Sirius 17: full moon in leo right?
    [3:57:13 PM] Emeth 141: The 'all flesh will worship..' see is the 'Judgement of Babylon'
    [3:57:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [3:57:28 PM] Emeth 141: Aquarius Moon in Leo Sun
    [3:57:50 PM] Sirius 17: oh weird lol
    [3:58:05 PM] Emeth 141: The 'abhorrence of the carcases..' becomes the 'fate of the mental Babylon' burning to ashes
    [3:58:19 PM] Emeth 141: It will affect James and you
    [3:58:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is i think
    [3:58:41 PM] Sirius 17: things feel really weird
    [3:58:54 PM] Emeth 141: Cosmic Reconfig all this and not earth changes
    [3:58:56 PM] Sirius 17: he has even started sleeping facing me
    [3:59:03 PM] Sirius 17: and me him
    [3:59:17 PM] Emeth 141: Good this means the 96 goes 69
    [3:59:25 PM] Sirius 17: i woke up in the middle of the night and we were like this, and it has been happening more and more
    [4:00:14 PM] Sirius 17: see i like to sleep on my right side, but its becoming uncomfortable and so i am sleeping on the left and he likes to sleep on his left but his shoulder is hurting and so he has turned to the right side now.
    [4:00:37 PM] Sirius 17: we were sleeping back to back for a long time
    [4:01:01 PM] Sirius 17: and funny enough i just noticed this the other day but it really dawned on me this morning we have shifted face to face
    [4:01:14 PM] Emeth 141: Yes, look at the symbol of the 96 and how it relates to 'Bigmo's Balloon' and the Adam and Eve exile from Eden
    [4:01:32 PM] Emeth 141: This is back to back
    [4:01:36 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:02:29 PM] Emeth 141: The story tells you, that the 96 is the 'celibacy' until Adam has realised the Devil face and so done his job as Abba's Son
    [4:02:51 PM] Emeth 141: As soon as this is fulfiled, Adam can look at Eve as his goddess
    [4:03:02 PM] Emeth 141: Ending the celibacy cosmic
    [4:03:09 PM] Sirius 17: good
    [4:03:43 PM] Emeth 141: I remember the day back in 2011 in April or May, when we both tried to explain this to some Nabsers with no effect
    ..........
    [1:02:17 AM-Tuesday, July 16th, 2013 +10UCT] Sirius 17: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4566755426517&set=a.1082532323117.11717.1820617739&type=1&theater
    [1:02:29 AM] Sirius 17: dont know if you can see this or not
    [1:02:46 AM] Sirius 17: looks like a grand sextile on the 29th of july
    [1:03:05 AM] Sirius 17: anyhow i am off to school this morning, catch you later hon
    [9:04:49 AM] Emeth 141: Yes 7 days following the Full Moon in Aquarius of the Leo Sun. I have added this to the last post here.
    [9:05:02 AM] Emeth 141: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=BDB3F1DE-78FA-4432-8DE8-567D1E8AF6BB
    [9:05:46 AM] Emeth 141: This can also be interpreted as the 7 days of Jesus' 'old man' in the GOT
    [9:06:36 AM] Emeth 141:

    (4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."

    [9:07:06 AM] Sirius 17: hey sweety
    [9:07:16 AM] Sirius 17: how are you?
    [9:08:25 AM] Sirius 17: i went to my first class today, was fun
    [9:08:26 AM] Sirius 17: lots of paperwork to sign wow
    [9:08:41 AM] Emeth 141: I had a strange night, waking up with a kind of a 'mental pressure', like I missed something
    [9:08:53 AM] Sirius 17: yes i felt the same way this morning
    [9:09:20 AM] Emeth 141: And as before, I had to add something to the last chart and your sextile astrochart fits
    [9:09:42 AM] Sirius 17: i know i dreamed and when i woke up it was all gone and i felt i was to remember something, i tried to recall what it was but just could not
    [9:09:55 AM] *** Emeth 141 sent BaabsDay.jpg ***
    [9:10:32 AM] Emeth 141: Look at the 490 days at the end
    [9:11:14 AM] Emeth 141: What I had to add is the day count from March Equinox 2012 as the end of the 7½ year warp to MM Day, July 23rd, 2013
    [9:11:27 AM] Emeth 141: It is all very nice
    [9:12:35 AM] Sirius 17: yes i see, it looks good
    [9:13:53 AM] Emeth 141: It is this 3½ dynamic again
    [9:13:54 AM] Sirius 17: nice job Tony
    [9:15:04 AM] Emeth 141: And 7 days from MM Day will go to this Grand Sextile geometry, which is the Hexagon of the Star of David and Solomon's Seal of course
    [9:15:48 AM] Emeth 141: I had a strange night and normally this means there is something 'missing'
    [9:16:01 AM] Emeth 141: I am not making this up, being very tired of it all
    [9:16:12 AM] Sirius 17: yes i saw it and figured it was significant
    [9:16:24 AM] Sirius 17: i know grand trines, sextiles, ect are rare
    [9:16:27 AM] Emeth 141: It is very symmetric
    [9:16:32 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [9:16:44 AM] Sirius 17: and of course the nabs group is talking all about it on FB
    [9:17:04 AM] Sirius 17: the 29th of July specifically
    [9:17:09 AM] Emeth 141: So your input again seems to be part of the deeper Logos agenda
    [9:17:33 AM] Sirius 17: well Barbara Maat shared the sextile, no idea where she got it from, she didn't give a link
    [9:18:02 AM] Emeth 141: I woke up and somehow knew, that I had to relate the Easter 2012 to July 8th
    [9:18:32 AM] Emeth 141: April 4th was Passion Wednesday as the 3½ days before easter Sunday in 2012
    [9:18:47 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.robertmontgomery.org/robertmontgomery.org/1.html
    [9:18:53 AM] Sirius 17: andrew shared this link
    [9:18:58 AM] Sirius 17: look at the pics
    [9:20:04 AM] Emeth 141: So there are two Logos Mirrors now; one for the long time on March 27th-28th, 2012 being the anniversary of the original Crucifixion in 31AD and one for the short one July 15th-16th, 2013
    [9:20:28 AM] Sirius 17: ok what does that mean?
    [9:20:30 AM] Emeth 141: Meaning today over the hour spreads
    [9:20:51 AM] Emeth 141: It warps the 70 weeks as shown in the chart
    [9:21:17 AM] Emeth 141: The mysterious passages of the partition into 7+62+1=70
    [9:22:01 AM] Emeth 141: The difference is just the 62 days see between the count to December 21st as 214 and from December 21st, as 276
    [9:22:19 AM] Emeth 141: 214+62+214=490
    [9:22:51 AM] Emeth 141: 214+62=276 as the days from the March Equinox to tjhe December Solstice
    [9:23:13 AM] Emeth 141: This was the cosmic pregnancy in long time, as you might recall as 265+11
    [9:23:47 AM] Emeth 141: Palm Sunday to Easter Sunday as the 7 days as two halfweeks in the original
    [9:23:57 AM] Sirius 17: ok yeah
    [9:24:15 AM] Emeth 141: Yes and this doubles as 7+1+7=15 as the 'Hour'
    [9:24:40 AM] Emeth 141: So this 'Hour' must be added to July 8th to execute the legislature
    [9:24:44 AM] Emeth 141: This is what this is
    [9:24:59 AM] Sirius 17: ohhh ok i get it now
    [9:25:29 AM] Emeth 141: The Supermoon to July 8th so 'made the new law' and the next 15 days as a half lunation executed the law
    [9:25:33 AM] Sirius 17: and the hour is the 31/2 again right?
    [9:25:53 AM] Sirius 17: 3 1/2+3 1/2 ....ect
    [9:26:14 AM] Emeth 141: Yes as a quarter part or a eight phase
    [9:26:29 AM] Sirius 17: oh wow so yeah this mirrors the sextile
    [9:26:50 AM] Emeth 141: the scribes simply used the 30 days as a full lunation as approximating the 29.53 days scientific
    [9:27:33 AM] Emeth 141: Yes, the code is not hard. One simply should try to 'think' like the ancients before attempting to decode their words
    [9:27:51 AM] Sirius 17: why are they homing in on the 29th though specifically, solely for this alignment?
    [9:28:16 AM] Emeth 141: No, this makes sense as a particular Grand Sextile for this Logos timeline
    [9:28:26 AM] Sirius 17: yes i meant the nabs group
    [9:28:40 AM] Emeth 141: Like December 21st, 2012 being a particular December Solstice
    [9:28:41 AM] Sirius 17: is this related in some way to callimans stuff or what
    [9:29:01 AM] Emeth 141: Not really, it does relate to lunar cycles and eclipses
    [9:29:06 AM] Sirius 17: i was just wondering what they find so significant about the date
    [9:29:19 AM] Emeth 141: They like the pics
    [9:30:11 AM] Sirius 17: ahh blue spectral hand, this is jenkins stuff, so yeah they are relating it to the mayan stuff
    [9:32:07 AM] Emeth 141: This is fine and I have not looked at this yet, but I agree with Susan's lunations here and they DO end in the Tzolkin count, as she broadcasts
    [9:32:29 AM] Emeth 141: I should put this post, the latter parts on her thread
    [9:32:54 AM] Emeth 141: She then can add and embellish this, if she so chooses
    [9:33:59 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.cinziameneghello.com/grand-sextile-on-july-29-2013-the-star-of-david/
    [9:34:14 AM] Sirius 17: digging up some links on this sextile, i am trying to find the link barbara got this from
    [9:35:27 AM] Sirius 17: http://galacticspacebook.com/profiles/blogs/this-is-the-big-one-we-ve-all-been-waiting-for-the-grand-sextile
    [9:35:31 AM] Sirius 17: found it i think
    [9:35:34 AM] Sirius 17: this one above
    [9:35:41 AM] Emeth 141: Well done
    [9:36:33 AM] Sirius 17: thank google images
    [9:39:02 AM] Sirius 17:

    Magnetic Moon 4, July 29, 2013, is the day of the Grand Sextile. It is encoded as Blue Spectral Hand, “I dissolve in order to know. Releasing healing. I seal the store of accomplishment with the spectral tone of liberation. I am guided by my own power doubled.” What an affirmation for planetary healing and upliftment. This aspect comes into play one week after the Full Moon of the Cosmic Moon, which is the last of 3 Super Moons in a row. The Super Moon is when the Full Moon falls on the day when the Moon is closest to the Earth. The Moon moves into position to create a Grand Trine with Venus and Pluto which also completes a Grand Sextile around the planet Earth. The Grand Trine with Venus, Pluto and the Moon signifies the possibility of transformation (Pluto) through the power of beauty (Venus) and love (Super Moon).
    ..........
    On the last day of the 13 moon calendar Cosmic Moon 28, July 24, 2013, the Moon moves into conjunction with Neptune. This adds the power of love from the Super Moon to the power of our highest hopes and dreams from the planet Neptune. This ends out the cycle of the 7 Mystic Moons.


    [9:39:07 AM] Sirius 17: this is good stuff here
    [9:40:01 AM] Emeth 141: Yes and Susan could extend this take from Randy Bruner, who did not link the lunar cycles to December 16th, 2013 and the Ahau dates
    [9:40:26 AM] Emeth 141: It fits the Thuban timeline rather well see?
    [9:40:35 AM] Sirius 17: yes it does

    magnetic_moon_july_4th,_2013.

    bb8df108-4fe4-4530-939a-d2f194f39d1a.

    Grand Sextile

    A grand sextile occurs when there are six planets, each of which is sextile to exactly two others, and these six planets also form two grand trines such that each planet in one grand trine is opposite to some planet in the other grand trine.

    Grand sextiles are very rare. Here is one, formed by Jupiter, Venus, Saturn, Pluto, Neptune and the Moon, which occurs on July 29, 2013. Another one is shown below.

    http://www.planetary-aspects.com/pat/planetary_aspects.htm


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    • Jorgelito - Posted 16 Minutes Ago

      Do you know anything about a Dreamspell calendar? I came across it when I was looking up Blue Spectral Hand.


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    • 501-79 (2).

      ahh..The Blue Spectrial Hand, etc.,
      is actually Arguelles stuff













      Yes Susan and Jorgelito and the 'dreamspell' stuff I dont agree with in general. Jose' did some good pioneering work, especially with the 'Harmonic Convergence' of August 17th, 1987, but his obsession of eliminating the 'normal time' of 60 minutes in a Haab year seemed to me unwarranted from the start and as say elucidated in his Nabs book 'The Mayan Factor'.
      As you can see, this guy Randy Bruner did not use the Tzolkin with the Full-New Moon lunations calibrating to 13 Ahau 18 Mac, as we have done with the 5 tzolkins from May 26th, 2010 to December 16th, 2013.
      Those are the 1300 Maya days from 12.19.17.7.0 = 13 Ahau 13 Zip to 13.0.1.0.0 = 13 Ahau 18 Mac
      I indicated this in the message, you commented on.
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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Jul 16th 2013


    17 DEC 2013
    - The First Full Moon of The Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi
    - Artist: Past Chief Timothy Gregory "Tim" Restoule
    - Dokis First Nation, An Ojibway Territory

    We have gone back into 5 major cycles x 13 minor cycles x 144,000 days = 9,360,000
    however, 21 dec 2012 - is NOT the day b4 The Full Moon
    MAJOR cycles ALWAYS start on The Day of THE FULL MOON
    from 22 dec 2012 to 17 dec 2013 - we have 360 days
    which is known as THE ANCIENT YEAR (360)
    aka The Six (6) Season Calendar (6 seasons x 60 days)
    this always starts on The 2nd Full Moon of December, every year !!!
    -The 17 Dec 2013 is The Full Moon,
    thus The Start of The next Grand Cycle,of Pacha iNTi
    while 16 Dec 2013 is the eve of the day b4 The Full Moon
    thus The End of The Grand Cycle of Macha (9,360,000)
    + Pacha (6x 60=360) = 9,360,000+360=9,360,360 DAYS/360
    =26001 ancent years
    We also have WITHIN the last 1300 day count-down
    5 cycles of 13 x 20 days x 5 = 260x 5 = 1300 days
    which run from:
    The Full Moon of 26 May 2010 to 16 Dec 2013
    1300 days / 260 Tzolkin Cycle (13x20) = 5 cycles
    from May 26th, 2010 to December 16th, 2013.
    Those are the 1300 Days from
    12.19.17.7.0 = 13 Ahau 13 Zip (26 May 2010) to 13.0.1.0.0 = 13 Ahau 18 Mac (16 DEC 2013)
    In summary
    There are 1300 days / 20 = 65 ahua cycles
    65 x 20 = 1300
    28 oct 2011 = The 26th AHUA = 26 x 20= 520 days out of 1300 days
    21 dec 2012 = The 47th AHUA = 47 x 20 = 940 days out of 1300 days
    16 dec 2013 = The 65th AHUA = 65 x 20 =1300 days out of 1300 days
    This is why - 16 dec 2013 - is The End Time of The current grand cycle of Macha & Pacha
    and, The full moon of 17 dec 2013 - starts the next grand cycle, called Pacha iNTi
    ~ Susan Lynne Schwenger & Tony Bermanseder


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/8645_10151407902247581_90413234_n.jpg

    17 DEC 2013 - The First Full Moon of The Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi

    - Artist: Past Chief Timothy Gregory "Tim" Restoule

    - Dokis First Nation, An Ojibway Territory


    Do you know what day was 9,360,360 days aka kin before 16 DEC 2013 ???

    If 16 DEC 2013 is The 65th AHUA

    In The Countdown of The Last 1300 days - In the current grand cycle

    (from 27 May 2010 - until 16 Dec 2013)
    28 OCT 2011 is The 26th AHUA

    - The Dr. Calleman Date

    21 DEC 2012 is The 47th AHUA

    - The John Major- Jenkins Date

    21 DEC 2012 is The 47th AHUA

    - The Terrace McKenna Date

    and, it is The 940th Day of

    The Countdown of The Last 1300 days

    (with 360 remaining days) in the current Grand Cycle.

    March 1st, 23,615 BC

    was the start of The Current Grand Cycle

    Use this link here: http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/

    Then in the Mayan Calendar section, put in -52.0.0.0.0 as the 65 Baktun count as

    65x144,000=9,360,000 Kin or days.

    So March 1st, 23,615 BC + 9,360,000 days will give you 5x13=65 baktuns

    as Maya date 13.0.0.0.0.

    and as December 21st, 2012

    -52.0.0.0.0 = 3 Kayab 4 Ahau

    of March 1st, 23,615 BC (Gregorian proleptic)

    -39.0.0.0.0 = 18 Ceh 4 Ahau

    of July 12th, 18,490 BC (Gregorian proleptic)

    -26.0.0.0.0 = 13 Mol 4 Ahau

    of November 20th, 13,365 BC (Gregorian proleptic)

    -13.0.0.0.0 = 8 Zotz 4 Ahau

    of April 1st, 8239 BC (Gregorian proleptic)

    00.0.0.0.0 = 8 Cumku 4 Ahau

    00.0.0.1.0 of August 11th, 3114 BC (Gregorian proleptic)



    13.0.0.0.0 = 3 Kankin 4 Ahau

    of December 21st, 2012 (Gregorian)

    Then 13.0.1.0.0 = 18 Mac 13 Ahau

    of December 16th, 2013 (Gregorian)

    because 1 Tun

    comprises 360 Kin as the Platonic Cycle

    - or Degree year as 20 Uinal for 1 Uinal

    being 18 Kin for 20x18 Kin = 360 Kin as 1 Tun.

    We have gone back into 5 major cycles

    x 13 minor cycles[/B]

    x 144,000 days = 9,360,000

    however, 21 dec 2012 - is NOT the day before The Full Moon

    MAJOR cycles ALWAYS start on The Day of THE FULL MOON

    from 22 dec 2012 to 17 dec 2013 - we have 360 days

    which is known as THE ANCIENT YEAR (360)

    aka The Six ( 6 ) Season Calendar (6 seasons x 60 days)

    this always starts on:


    The 2nd Full Moon of December, every year !!!

    -The 17 Dec 2013 is The Full Moon,

    thus The Start of The Next Grand Cycle,of Pacha iNTi

    while 16 Dec 2013 is the eve of the day before The Full Moon

    thus The End of The Grand Cycle of Macha (9,360,000)

    + Pacha (6 x 60=360) = 9,360,000+360=9,360,360 DAYS/360

    =26001 ancient years

    We also have WITHIN the last 1300 day count-down

    5 cycles of 13 x 20 days x 5 = 260 x 5 = 1300 days

    which run from:

    The Full Moon of 26 May 2010 to 16 Dec 2013

    1300 days / 260 Tzolkin Cycle (13x20) = 5 cycles

    from May 26th, 2010 to December 16th, 2013.

    Those are the 1300 Days from

    12.19.17.7.0 = 13 Ahau 13 Zip (26 May 2010)


    to 13.0.1.0.0 = 13 Ahau 18 Mac (16 DEC 2013)

    In summary

    There are 1300 days / 20 = 65 AHUA cycles

    65 x 20 = 1300

    28 oct 2011 = The 26th AHUA = 26 x 20=


    520 days out of 1300 days

    21 dec 2012 = The 47th AHUA = 47 x 20


    = 940 days out of 1300 days

    16 dec 2013 = The 65th AHUA = 65 x 20


    =1300 days out of 1300 days

    This is why – 16th December 2013


    aka 16 DEC 2013 at sunset

    - is The End Time of The Current Grand Cycle of Macha & Pacha

    and, The full moon of 17th December 2013


    aka 17 DEC 2013 at sunrise

    -is The Start Time of The Next Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi Discovered by: Susan Lynne Schwenger & Tony Bermanseder
    [/SIZE]

    Susan was the first person to identify The Grand Cycle as The Last Full Moon in 2013
    – 17 Dec 2013 back in 1984.
    The Aztec, Mayan, Maori, Aboriginal, First Nations, Metis & Native American Tribes
    had 1,5,13,20, 60, 180, 260, 360, 360+5, 360+1+5 & 144,000 day cycles...
    The Six Season Calendar aka The Thirteen (13) Moon Calendar aka The Ancient Year begins on the last full moon of December, each and every year.
    She was also the first to align The Metonic Calendar, The Ancient Egyptian Calendars, The Chinese 60-year Calendar Cycle, etc.,
    The Bermanseder Bible Codes can also be aligned to these calendars:
    http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/...0C39E-7270-4160-80DE-61A397C1A988&pageindex=1
    THE MAIN CODE of THE DRESDEN CODEX THROUGH THE MAYAN SUPER NUMBER 1366560
    has been cracked by Tony Bermanseder & Susan Lynne Schwenger
    -- which mathematically proves we live in a 12 level universe http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/...01A0&fid=F3D0C39E-7270-4160-80DE-61A397C1A988

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/8645_10151407902247581_90413234_n.jpg

    17 DEC 2013
    - The First Full Moon of The Grand Cycle of Pacha iNTi - Artist: Past Chief Timothy Gregory "Tim" Restoule

    - Dokis First Nation, An Ojibway Territory
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2015

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