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    Jorgelito - Posted May 16th 2013

    Jester, I want to know about the vinyl gutter business. If you're involved in it, it must be very interesting indeed!

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    • JesterTerrestrial - Posted May 16th 2013

      Hey Jorgelito, well yes i'm starting a new graphic design venture My original market The Holstein Farmers market no longer exists as market Mike has been busy bridging the dimensional energies and assisting to build the thuban star human template! Yup, designing signs and graphics is something I have done for a while with lasers and cnc mills but now with vinyl it opens up a whole spectrum of colour to work with. I got a couple sample books with my first order of vinyl last week. Spent my last few bucks and am all in! I got 3 orders already so its already on! Oh ITS SO ON!

      I think I will call this business venture VINYL MAGIC grin. The vinyl cutter came from my friends e-waste recycling business "Circle F". This business is just another part of the empire as we go full circle and rebuild from the bottom to the top and higher cuz i cant stop! There are many other business ideas to explore as I have also been doing some training classes in a number of business related topics from some pretty cool teachers. Some really amazing new things on the horizon as we launch the new system that it would seem we have all been waiting for.

      What would you like know? Sell me some orders and I will cut them and mail them to you! Resell them to you local stores and business. If you really want to let me know i'm just making up a price list in open office write now as I am going to get a table at the market for the first time tomorrow.

      Well gotta go make some business card and keep it moving. Wait till you see the next phase after this is just all part of the rebuild. I might have to write a new book about this adventure :) THE STAR GATES TO AVALON ARE OPEN!!! WELCOME TO THE GOLDEN AGE!!! heart. JT!

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      Yup anyone who comes to my door is getting sold some vinyl art lol PAYDAY :)​

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      Jorgelito - Posted May 16th 2013
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    • The colors are very alive and hopping! It's great to hear you say OH ITS SO ON!! If you are doing the sales, I expect the businress to do well.

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 17th 2013

    Logos Questions Continued

    [3:58:42 PM-Friday, May 17th, 2013-+10UCT]
    Emeth: Adam came home today, but Ripper had a stroke
    [3:59:07 PM] Sirius 17: oh god
    [3:59:08 PM] Emeth: I thought that was it but he recovered somewhat from overheating
    [3:59:09 PM] Sirius 17: is he ok
    [3:59:35 PM] Emeth: He is bad and cant move well now at all
    [3:59:57 PM] Sirius 17: have you had someone take him to the vet?
    [4:00:04 PM] Emeth: This pacificap email is still compromised, though I recovered it
    [4:00:23 PM] Emeth: They are considering this; perhaps for a vitamin boost
    [4:00:34 PM] Emeth: Adam so activated his bankcard
    [4:00:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes for ripper of course
    [4:00:52 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [4:01:11 PM] Sirius 17: how does Adam seem to you?
    [4:01:22 PM] Emeth: So please noone use pacificap@hotmail.com anymore
    [4:01:26 PM] Emeth: better
    [4:01:33 PM] Sirius 17: thats good
    [4:01:41 PM] Emeth: Early days
    [4:01:52 PM] Sirius 17: no i won't, i only recieved that one email from pacificap
    [4:02:19 PM] Emeth: use omniphysics@cosmosdawn.net from now on
    [4:02:26 PM] Sirius 17: well hopefully things will work out
    [4:02:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes the omniphysics is the one i got the email from saying you were in spain
    [4:03:24 PM] Emeth: This is the freeyellow account
    [4:03:35 PM] Emeth: Things seem ok there, as is gmail
    [4:03:50 PM] Sirius 17: so you don't think omniphysics is hijacked too?
    [4:03:53 PM] Emeth: But omniphysics was the alternative email to reset the accounts
    [4:04:11 PM] Emeth: I am not sure of course
    [4:04:21 PM] Sirius 17: well i hope not
    [4:04:29 PM] Emeth: My other one is abraxasinas@gmail.com
    [4:04:39 PM] Sirius 17: ok i will save that one just in case
    [4:06:10 PM] Emeth: So I shared this on the other chats to clarify that Ii wont use pacificap anymore
    [4:06:32 PM] Emeth: Someone computer savvy fucked this account
    [4:06:33 PM] Sirius 17: has dd told you what her big secret is yet?
    [4:06:39 PM] Emeth: No
    [4:06:44 PM] Emeth: she only said this
    [4:06:57 PM] Emeth:
    [16/05/2013 8:23:27 AM] Debra: Tony, are you here?
    [16/05/2013 5:34:57 PM] Emeth: I am
    [16/05/2013 5:36:12 PM] Debra: Really? Then let's do a skype call!

    [4:07:10 PM] Emeth: I then replied on this new chat
    [4:07:15 PM] Sirius 17: and so did you talk to her?
    [4:07:26 PM] Emeth: No
    [4:07:44 PM] Sirius 17: i still have her blocked
    [4:07:49 PM] Emeth: As in the above, were the only exchange
    [4:08:04 PM] Sirius 17: i am tired of her games
    [4:08:08 PM] Emeth: I saw xeia adding her to the main but she left
    [4:08:49 PM] Sirius 17: hmm i saw her add her but did not see her leave
    [4:09:11 PM] Emeth: She left some hours later after another raxnae exposition
    [4:09:19 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [4:10:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was compelled to share Donald Rumsfeld with Raxnae
    [4:10:51 PM] Sirius 17: i see raxnae left then somehow was added again
    [4:11:47 PM] Sirius 17: well i am waiting on my letter from the radiology dept still, was supposed to be here today
    [4:12:30 PM] Sirius 17: it is MI's birthday today :)
    [4:13:00 PM] Sirius 17: i feel very odd
    [4:13:34 PM] Sirius 17: melancholic i guess
    [4:14:57 PM] Sirius 17: i am sorry about Ripper Tony, I know how that feels when your dog is not well
    [4:15:31 PM] Sirius 17: I hope he is ok
    [4:16:48 PM] Sirius 17: i feel like i am in limbo
    [4:17:00 PM] Emeth: Same here

    [4:18:24 PM] Sirius 17:

    Ephesians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    [4:18:45 PM] Sirius 17: this keeps going through my mind
    [4:19:18 PM] Emeth: Well the body mortality, which we suffer intensely now
    [4:19:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:19:53 PM] Sirius 17: it seems to get worse
    [4:20:17 PM] Sirius 17: i keep lagging in here
    [4:21:00 PM] Sirius 17: i did this update on this computer and it is still messed up
    [4:21:18 PM] Sirius 17: it was a new bios update and wireless driver
    [4:21:32 PM] Sirius 17: said it would fix all these issues
    [4:22:00 PM] Sirius 17: i may have to take this computer back to best buy and have them look at it
    [4:22:25 PM] Sirius 17: because i keep going on and off line
    [4:22:43 PM] Sirius 17: and my son and carla have no problem
    [4:22:49 PM] Sirius 17: my computer is closer to the router too
    [4:22:54 PM] Sirius 17: makes no sense
    [4:23:21 PM] Emeth: No
    [4:23:38 PM] Emeth: But I am thinking reformatting again too
    [4:23:44 PM] Sirius 17: i am just trying to make it through this stupid quarter
    [4:23:56 PM] Sirius 17: two of my classes are online
    [4:23:58 PM] Emeth: It is pretty intense now here
    [4:24:04 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [4:24:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes what is going on?
    [4:24:19 PM] Emeth: hard to keep it together
    [4:24:23 PM] Emeth: But we must
    [4:24:33 PM] Sirius 17: oh yeah, i feel you
    [4:24:40 PM] Emeth: Yes what i mean
    [4:24:48 PM] Sirius 17: i am barely making it
    [4:24:56 PM] Sirius 17: i feel like i might crack at any time
    [4:25:03 PM] Emeth: MI's birthday opened some Pandora's Box
    [4:25:05 PM] Sirius 17: so sick of it
    [4:25:47 PM] Sirius 17: well i hope something changes soon
    [4:25:50 PM] Emeth: Ripper was laying on the floor not moving for over an hour, how you think I felt
    [4:26:17 PM] Sirius 17: i know babe, how i felt when applesauce had her siezure
    [4:26:23 PM] Sirius 17: like the world ended
    [4:26:38 PM] Sirius 17: helpless
    [4:26:42 PM] Emeth: Yes seizure panting
    [4:26:59 PM] Emeth: They see the vet tomorrow morning
    [4:27:36 PM] Sirius 17: he seems to be ok now though right?
    [4:27:43 PM] Emeth: Hopefully
    [4:27:58 PM] Emeth: He is stumbling around
    [4:28:04 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm i wonder if giving him a baby asprin would help
    [4:28:16 PM] Emeth: But this is better than being comatose like
    [4:28:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes sounds like he had a seizure, was he foaming at the mouth or drooling?
    [4:28:48 PM] Emeth: Yes water
    [4:29:02 PM] Sirius 17: god
    [4:29:17 PM] Emeth: I mean just the panting
    [4:29:34 PM] Emeth: disoriented
    [4:30:04 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.lifelinescreening.com/health-updates/healthy-you/stroke/dogs-can-have-strokes-too.aspx
    [4:30:19 PM] Sirius 17: Although dog strokes can cause permanent disability or death, the good news is that they are usually not as serious as human strokes. With the right care and treatment, the odds are good that your dog will make a full recovery within a few weeks.
    [4:30:24 PM] Sirius 17: this is good news
    [4:31:38 PM] Emeth: yes it was definitely a stroke
    [4:32:26 PM] Sirius 17: he got overheated?
    [4:33:34 PM] Sirius 17: yeah the vet will at least do blood work on him to determine if he has something going on that caused the stroke
    [4:34:22 PM] Sirius 17: Applesauce got into snail bait i think, pretty sure that is what caused her seizure
    [4:34:42 PM] Sirius 17: we switched her dog food to a better one and no table food
    [4:34:54 PM] Sirius 17: her pancreatic enzymes and liver enzymes were through the roof
    [4:35:52 PM] Sirius 17: but Ripper is pretty old, he could just be declining because of his age...kidney failure or liver or something going on
    [4:35:58 PM] Sirius 17: hypertension
    [4:36:31 PM] Sirius 17: possiblity though he just got overheated
    [4:39:07 PM] Sirius 17: poor baby
    [4:39:29 PM] Sirius 17: i bet he is happy to see Adam though at least
    [4:41:07 PM] Emeth: good timing yes
    [4:41:34 PM] Emeth: Yes, old age
    [4:42:03 PM] Emeth: Seeing Adam accentuated something in the brain see
    [4:43:13 PM] Sirius 17: oh so he had the stroke after Adam came home?
    [4:43:31 PM] Sirius 17: yeah sounds like he got overly excited
    [4:43:52 PM] Sirius 17: he missed him
    [4:44:56 PM] Emeth: Well in some way it seems so
    [4:45:09 PM] Emeth: rax likes Abraxas lol
    [4:45:15 PM] Emeth: I linked the old thread
    [4:45:21 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [4:45:27 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i saw that
    [4:45:29 PM] Emeth: I am in no mood for any grandstanding
    [4:45:39 PM] Sirius 17: i hear you
    [4:45:54 PM] Sirius 17: he writes some heavy poetry
    [4:46:00 PM] Emeth: Can you check this link, as I am still banned
    [4:49:41 PM] Sirius 17: oops didnt mean to talk over there
    [4:51:20 PM] Emeth: Oh no please do
    [4:51:37 PM] Emeth: Can you find the link to this old forum?
    [4:51:42 PM] Sirius 17: no
    [4:51:51 PM] Sirius 17: i cannot get any web page to open
    [4:51:58 PM] Sirius 17: for the link you gave
    [4:51:58 PM] Emeth: Should be the same link which workd for me without the proxy
    [4:52:13 PM] Sirius 17: i tried it
    [4:53:07 PM] Sirius 17: http://projectavalon.net/forum/misc.php?do=showsmilies
    [4:53:08 PM] Emeth: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18900&highlight=Thuban
    [4:53:12 PM] Sirius 17: found it
    [4:53:22 PM] Emeth: Try this
    [4:53:39 PM] Sirius 17: it works
    [4:54:04 PM] Emeth: Good this one gives me the IP banned
    [4:54:18 PM] Emeth: But should work for anyone else
    [4:54:28 PM] Sirius 17: yeah that is the old thread
    [4:58:24 PM] Emeth: You are talking sense to rax. This is quite a difference
    [5:20:34 PM] Sirius 17: umm i can't take much more lol
    [5:21:50 PM] Emeth: No just fade out
    [5:24:32 PM] Sirius 17: he is lonely
    [5:24:50 PM] Emeth: Could be
    [5:25:04 PM] Sirius 17: feels misunderstood
    [5:25:10 PM] Sirius 17: unappreciated
    [5:25:16 PM] Sirius 17: unheard
    [5:25:20 PM] Sirius 17: sound familar?
    [5:25:21 PM] Emeth: Well Cassie is taking Ripper to the vet tomorrow and then Adam wants to see Richard
    [5:25:26 PM] Emeth: This is a new one
    [5:25:34 PM] Sirius 17: oh boy
    [5:25:36 PM] Emeth: I just been on facebook
    [5:25:44 PM] Sirius 17: well that is a good thing though
    [5:25:46 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [5:25:47 PM] Sirius 17: healing
    [5:26:34 PM] Emeth: And DD coming in from the blues, MI 's 91 MIGHT have been the climax of the sickness I dont know
    [5:26:58 PM] Emeth: How is James today and yesterday?
    [5:27:25 PM] Emeth: Do you perceive a difference?
    [5:27:31 PM] Sirius 17: he seems ok, burned out a little like me
    [5:28:22 PM] Sirius 17: i percieve a difference in me
    [5:28:29 PM] Emeth: You do?
    [5:28:30 PM] Sirius 17: not sure how that translates to him
    [5:28:45 PM] Emeth: In what way?
    [5:29:34 PM] Sirius 17: it is a subjective thing, not sure i can explain it well. I was thinking today how I see things is different then like a year ago, my perspective has changed
    [5:29:47 PM] Sirius 17: things seem clear
    [5:30:03 PM] Sirius 17: like the air is clearing or something
    [5:30:22 PM] Sirius 17: it seemed fuzzy before
    [5:30:59 PM] Sirius 17: i just feel like i am looking with new eyes or different eyes
    [5:31:37 PM] Sirius 17: and this is not just at how the outer world appears, but it is an emotonal subjective experience
    [5:32:13 PM] Sirius 17: i have no idea what tomorrow will be like
    [5:32:18 PM] Sirius 17: could be changed
    [5:32:34 PM] Emeth: Hmm
    [5:32:43 PM] Sirius 17: i have no expectations really
    [5:32:46 PM] Sirius 17: just watching
    [5:32:49 PM] Emeth: Good
    [5:32:57 PM] Emeth: Yes observer mode
    [5:33:23 PM] Sirius 17: and i am agitated a lot lately
    [5:33:30 PM] Sirius 17: anxious
    [5:33:39 PM] Sirius 17: but not in a neurotic way
    [5:33:57 PM] Emeth: I feel strange but with a certain calmness, yet sad
    [5:34:01 PM] Sirius 17: just feel like something is on the tip of my mind
    [5:34:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am sad too
    [5:34:37 PM] Sirius 17: i am very tired lately
    [5:34:45 PM] Sirius 17: like falling asleep all over the place
    [5:34:46 PM] Emeth: When exactly was your dream, can you give me your time?
    [5:35:16 PM] Sirius 17: well i woke up i guess about 8:00 or so
    [5:35:28 PM] Emeth: May 15th?
    [5:35:31 PM] Sirius 17: maybe a little before, i woke up before the alarm clock
    [5:35:52 PM] Emeth: 8 am on May 15th?
    [5:35:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes i think so
    [5:36:20 PM] Emeth: Ok add 17 hours to 1 am May 16th my time
    [5:36:38 PM] Emeth: I had a strange energyshift then
    [5:36:42 PM] Sirius 17: um no wait it was the 14th for me
    [5:36:56 PM] Emeth: Ok then this was the day before
    [5:36:57 PM] Sirius 17: the morning of the 14th
    [5:37:15 PM] Sirius 17: but i told you about it that day and then the time changed
    [5:37:25 PM] Emeth: But in the night of May 15th to May 16th, there was a shift with MI
    [5:37:39 PM] Emeth: So this was after your dream
    [5:38:58 PM] Emeth: Around 8pm May 15th your time, Xeia created this new chat
    [5:39:10 PM] Sirius 17:

    [Wednesday, 15 May 2013 11:57 AM] Sirius 17:
    <<< I finished it

    I had a very strange dream about you
    We were making love in front of many people and I was riding you very passionately. All of a sudden just before we climaxed you shouted at me to stop and I did. I was sort of in shock because you were so adamant about it, I felt rejected in that moment and it seemed you were implying that I had done something wrong or not right, I am not sure. I woke up shortly after this.
    I was vacillating on whether or not to tell you about it. The energy was so intense while we were making love, it seemed perfect to me, I didn't want it to end infact. It kept bulding and building in intensity. I was like an animal ontop of you, insatiable. I woke up wondering why the hell I dreamed this, why you stopped me.
    I also started my period yesterday and I am emotional...yeah

    [5:39:31 PM] Sirius 17: so it was the 14th
    [5:39:43 PM] Sirius 17: i started my period the day before ths
    [5:39:48 PM] Sirius 17: on the 13th
    [5:39:50 PM] Emeth: Yes about a day before the shift
    [5:40:12 PM] Emeth: But the serpent energy clearly shifted from Debbie back to MI
    [5:40:41 PM] Emeth: So when you had this dream Debbie was placeholding
    [5:40:49 PM] Emeth: Afterwards it was MI
    [5:41:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes and last night i fell asleep sitting here
    [5:41:42 PM] Sirius 17: i just could not keep my eyes open
    [5:41:59 PM] Sirius 17: and when i tell you this never happens to me, you can believe it
    [5:42:05 PM] Emeth: I had no sex energy on the 14th and 15th
    [5:42:06 PM] Sirius 17: i do not just fall asleep
    [5:42:14 PM] Emeth: Yes MILD is related to this
    [5:42:35 PM] Sirius 17: and i have been like this for a few weeks now
    [5:42:39 PM] Sirius 17: cannot stay awake
    [5:42:45 PM] Emeth: Because on the morning of the 16th, which would be say afternoon 15th your way she came in strong
    [5:42:49 PM] Sirius 17: like narcolepsy sort of lol
    [5:42:58 PM] Emeth: What do you recall afternoon 15th?
    [5:43:26 PM] Sirius 17: i was really melancholy, i was thinking all day whether or not to tell you about the dream
    [5:43:32 PM] Sirius 17: trying to figure it out
    [5:43:34 PM] Emeth: Right
    [5:43:34 PM] Sirius 17: i felt sad
    [5:43:39 PM] Sirius 17: confused
    [5:43:50 PM] Emeth: James?
    [5:43:54 PM] Emeth: Then
    [5:44:02 PM] Sirius 17: he was the same
    [5:44:04 PM] Emeth: Was he confused?
    [5:44:13 PM] Sirius 17: not that i noticed
    [5:44:26 PM] Sirius 17: aggitated like me i suppose
    [5:44:57 PM] Emeth: Well MI wanted me to image Lassie then and the two days before I did not like even looking at her
    [5:45:06 PM] Sirius 17: i was really sick and did not want to go to class but did anyhow
    [5:45:17 PM] Sirius 17: i mean i was not able to stay awake, he was worried
    [5:45:20 PM] Sirius 17: i felt weak
    [5:45:32 PM] Emeth: So this could mean, that on her 91st bd MI became part of DD as the 91 see?
    [5:45:51 PM] Emeth: Then weirdly enough DD appears
    [5:45:59 PM] Emeth: So this is the synchro here
    [5:46:03 PM] Sirius 17: yeah very strange
    [5:46:17 PM] Sirius 17: but then she doesn't say anything
    [5:46:18 PM] Emeth: This would be tripartite in the YYY
    [5:46:37 PM] Emeth: So we should inquire what happened to Xeia and Rok at that time
    [5:47:05 PM] Emeth: No, because imo she does not feel comfortable here at all
    [5:47:22 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i don't know, its all fucked up because we are not communicating all of us like we were before
    [5:47:29 PM] Emeth: It is like the 'spirit' 'forced her' into something
    [5:47:37 PM] Sirius 17: everyone feels this i think
    [5:47:46 PM] Sirius 17: akwardness
    [5:48:00 PM] Emeth: But i do feel calm about it, like it is ok
    [5:48:15 PM] Emeth: And this might be your reevaluation too
    [5:48:20 PM] Sirius 17: i feel disinterested
    [5:48:33 PM] Emeth: disinterested in what?
    [5:48:37 PM] Sirius 17: in her
    [5:48:43 PM] Emeth: Ah yes
    [5:48:53 PM] Emeth: In what she has to say indeed
    [5:49:08 PM] Emeth: It is just ucadia bs
    [5:49:33 PM] Sirius 17: yes and the shit she is posting to MOA still shows me that she is being two faced again
    [5:49:35 PM] Emeth: Her human zombie mind has changed little imo
    [5:49:43 PM] Emeth: But metaphysically, she has changed
    [5:50:01 PM] Sirius 17: well must be
    [5:50:06 PM] Sirius 17: she contacted xeia
    [5:50:15 PM] Sirius 17: so she came on her own
    [5:50:32 PM] Emeth: Did Xeia say this?
    [5:50:43 PM] Sirius 17: no its in the intital convo
    [5:51:11 PM] Sirius 17:
    [Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:19 AM] Kali 666:
    <<< [6:25:11 PM] Debra: Xeia are you here?
    [8:13:10 PM] Xeia: yep
    [8:13:11 PM] Xeia: hi
    [8:13:16 PM] Xeia: long time no see!
    [8:13:20 PM] Xeia: :*
    [8:13:39 PM] Debra: Very interesting, out of all the membes, you seem to all ways be the first.
    [8:13:48 PM] Xeia: haha
    [8:13:49 PM] Debra: Now why is that?
    [8:13:59 PM] Xeia: well...this is me!
    [8:14:01 PM] Xeia: lol
    [8:14:09 PM] Xeia: how are you?
    [8:14:14 PM] Xeia: all ok?
    [8:14:23 PM] Debra: I have some info
    [8:14:24 PM] Debra: for Tony.
    [8:14:37 PM] Xeia: ahh...want me to add you to our chat?
    [8:14:48 PM] Debra: No.
    [8:14:53 PM] Xeia: make a new one?
    [8:15:02 PM] Debra: Seems appropriate.
    [8:15:06 PM] Xeia: sure!
    [8:15:13 PM] Xeia: old times are way gone!
    [8:15:19 PM] Xeia: new is in!
    [8:15:30 PM] Debra: No.. past, present and future are all ways connected.
    [8:15:46 PM] Debra: We are future chat.
    [8:15:49 PM] Debra: ;)
    [8:15:51 PM] Xeia: i can work with that too ;)
    [8:15:57 PM] Xeia: haha
    [8:16:03 PM] Xeia: ok lemme make it
    [8:16:10 PM] Debra: Eye
    [8:16:20 PM] Xeia: name?
    [8:16:28 PM] Debra: Nameless
    [8:16:35 PM] Xeia: oki
    Debra
    intuitive as always!

    [5:51:27 PM] Sirius 17: see, she called for her
    [5:51:44 PM] Emeth: Yes this was May 15th, 6 pm
    [5:52:04 PM] Emeth: Which is 4am May 16th my time and the time of MI
    [5:52:42 PM] Emeth: 6 pm Florida time
    [5:53:07 PM] Emeth: So something universal occurred
    [5:53:35 PM] Emeth: Your dream triggered or initiated it
    [5:53:46 PM] Emeth: 'uneasiness'
    [5:54:24 PM] Sirius 17: maybe i was really fucking you higher d lol
    [5:54:39 PM] Emeth: Most likely yes
    [5:54:41 PM] Sirius 17: dd felt it, or something
    [5:55:06 PM] Emeth: Well it was like MI wanted me to take HER virginity so THEN she could be shared
    [5:55:15 PM] Emeth: This was a clear enough energy
    [5:55:30 PM] Emeth: So this then relates to us as waveforms
    [5:56:02 PM] Emeth: Actually this 'covenant' seems to be in the ethers for a while
    [5:56:08 PM] Sirius 17: well if that is what it is going to be like we are in for one hell of a surprize
    [5:56:11 PM] Sirius 17: it was intense
    [5:56:15 PM] Emeth: I have not talked about it, as it is self explicatory
    [5:56:43 PM] Emeth: The 'new covenant' is as I messaged in this convo
    [5:56:58 PM] Emeth: Only cores can share each other
    [5:57:09 PM] Emeth: Sort of explains your dream yes?
    [5:57:44 PM] Sirius 17: so we are not cored yet? or because james and dd are not as one with us
    [5:57:50 PM] Sirius 17: mentally
    [5:57:54 PM] Emeth: Yes all those things
    [5:58:03 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [5:58:13 PM] Emeth: But in waveform, we are cored
    [5:58:55 PM] Emeth: And this allowed or required Debbie's 'ashes' to manifest from MI's bones aka the Ezekielian 'Valley of the Bones'
    [5:59:10 PM] Sirius 17: the sex with you was transformational, the energy, i felt it
    [5:59:13 PM] Emeth: But if so, then your dream makes perfect sense
    [5:59:36 PM] Sirius 17: why i was so distraught waking up, i felt something really big would happen if we climaxed
    [5:59:48 PM] Emeth: Yes, because it would have templated the waveform to become physicalised
    [6:00:40 PM] Emeth: It literally meant MI descending into my core, whoever this might be but templated as Lassie for the time being
    [6:01:04 PM] Emeth: Of course this is the JCCJ energy for all cores and therefore the intensity
    [6:01:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [6:01:34 PM] Emeth: So I had weird impressions see
    [6:01:53 PM] Emeth: Like my exwife who was a virgin and also MI at her first time having sex etc
    [6:02:10 PM] Emeth: This MI wanted to be Lassie as a virgin
    [6:02:19 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [6:02:23 PM] Sirius 17: makes sense
    [6:02:29 PM] Emeth: This one day after your dream see, therefore the 'stop it'
    [6:02:52 PM] Sirius 17: oh i stopped, woke me right up
    [6:02:57 PM] Emeth: BUT you must have templated the blueprint for the blueprint
    [6:03:26 PM] Emeth: This would be really cosmic as it is the waveform beyond the waveform beyond any bodyforms
    [6:03:50 PM] Emeth: So it is like mind before mind not just mind before body
    [6:03:52 PM] Sirius 17: it did feel out of time
    [6:04:02 PM] Emeth: Yes it makes sense to me now
    [6:04:09 PM] Sirius 17: it was very lucid
    [6:04:14 PM] Sirius 17: like real beyond real
    [6:04:33 PM] Emeth: And I cant remember anything or was this the 'groupings'?
    [6:04:45 PM] Emeth: Did I say it was the better bodies, yes
    [6:04:46 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean?
    [6:04:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes it was, we were in perfect bodies
    [6:05:08 PM] Emeth: Yes when you first told me, I said, i dreamt about better bodies
    [6:05:11 PM] Sirius 17: i was very thin in the dream and ontop of you
    [6:05:32 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes you said that
    [6:05:43 PM] Emeth: yes, but I dont like thin chicks lol
    [6:05:52 PM] Emeth: Slim yes
    [6:05:53 PM] Sirius 17: and we were in front of a bunch of people
    [6:06:02 PM] Emeth: Yes my 'groupings'
    [6:06:09 PM] Sirius 17: they were watching us, but i did not recognize anyone
    [6:06:15 PM] Emeth: But with me there were no sexual couplings

    [6:06:17 PM] Hades 88: [9:46:43] Emeth: So we should inquire what happened to Xeia and Rok at that time
    [9:47:10] Emeth: No, because imo she does not feel comfortable here at all
    [9:47:28] Allisiam: yeah i don't know, its all fucked up because we are not communicating all of us like we were before

    Xeia was fucked in her dream on may 13th...she posted it in here.....we had some inner conflicts later on same day and may 14th that were resolved by the may 15th

    [6:06:41 PM] Emeth: Hmm yes, this fits
    [6:06:51 PM] Emeth: See this Raven?
    [6:07:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes the dream about Paulo being Paulo
    [6:07:09 PM] Sirius 17: Paul
    [6:07:11 PM] Emeth: Xeia on the 13th, Raven on the 14th and MI on the 15th your time
    [6:07:37 PM] Sirius 17: Tony have we all been inseminated somehow?
    [6:07:49 PM] Emeth: This would make sense
    [6:07:59 PM] Sirius 17: we were visited by Incuubus
    [6:08:05 PM] Emeth: It definitely was about inseminations
    [6:08:18 PM] Sirius 17: and Xeia said i think it was this same dream she had where they were testing to see how she fucked
    [6:08:25 PM] Emeth: So afterwards the Bodies could be shared lawfully
    [6:08:26 PM] Sirius 17: her energy
    [6:08:38 PM] Emeth: it was unlawful until those virginities were taken by the real cores
    [6:09:58 PM] Sirius 17: strange, yeah i felt these people watching us were like witnessing something
    [6:10:11 PM] Sirius 17: they were there for a purpose and it was to watch us
    [6:10:18 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [6:10:35 PM] Emeth: Makes a LOT of sense to my take and experience of this MI shift
    [6:10:52 PM] Emeth: It was like a 'New Constitution'
    [6:11:03 PM] Emeth: Cosmic Law not human stuff
    [6:11:18 PM] Sirius 17: wonder if what dd has to tell you is a dream
    [6:11:22 PM] Sirius 17: she had
    [6:11:25 PM] Sirius 17: or some experience
    [6:11:33 PM] Emeth: I expect ucadian heaven bs, no more
    [6:11:56 PM] Emeth: Whatever, her reappearing on MI's bd is no coincidence
    [6:12:06 PM] Sirius 17: no it isn't
    [6:12:07 PM] Emeth: She would not know or have forgotten
    [6:12:34 PM] Emeth: I dont even think she is reading Thuban much more
    [6:12:47 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know
    [6:12:53 PM] Emeth: She would be unawares that her sons bd is in fact the mirror of December 21st
    [6:13:07 PM] Sirius 17: even if she did know it has significance anyhow
    [6:13:23 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [6:13:31 PM] Sirius 17: because she pretty much swore us off
    [6:13:40 PM] Sirius 17: so it is a change of heart or something
    [6:13:47 PM] Emeth: Now anyone as vain as DD would comment on this if it would be conscious in her mind
    [6:14:15 PM] Emeth: As said Logos is doing this as cosmic agenda
    [6:14:17 PM] Sirius 17: yeah maybe
    [6:14:32 PM] Emeth: What or if this means 3d-4D is anyones guess

    [6:14:57 PM] Emeth: Look at my situation Raven
    [6:14:59 PM] Sirius 17: how many days from the 15th to july 5th?
    [6:15:18 PM] Emeth: Adam was suicidal for 2 years and the thing that kept him going was Ripper
    [6:15:28 PM] Emeth: Now Ripper dies and it is back to square one
    [6:15:37 PM] Sirius 17: no dont say that
    [6:15:56 PM] Sirius 17: i think adam has changed metaphysically too
    [6:15:56 PM] Emeth: I said as much to his social worker, who brought him home today
    [6:16:12 PM] Emeth: 6 weeks
    [6:16:16 PM] Emeth: 41 days
    [6:16:20 PM] Emeth: 40 days
    [6:16:31 PM] Emeth: The wilderness of Sinai etc
    [6:16:43 PM] Sirius 17: how many days since dec 21 from the 15th count back
    [6:17:04 PM] Emeth: 10+120+15=145
    [6:17:31 PM] Sirius 17: 144 maybe?
    [6:17:39 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [6:17:52 PM] Emeth: You can always count or not count the boundary days
    [6:18:12 PM] Emeth: Dec 22 to May 14 = 144
    [6:18:19 PM] Sirius 17: so yeah MI's birthday is demarcated
    [6:18:33 PM] Sirius 17: well we knew this, but i was looking for insemination clues
    [6:18:46 PM] Emeth: Oh all this is clear on the new chart
    [6:19:09 PM] Sirius 17: yes yes, but something maybe being revealed now
    [6:19:18 PM] Emeth: 96-7weeks-3½times-7weeks mirrored as two gestations
    [6:19:34 PM] Emeth: It did
    [6:19:40 PM] Emeth: I added the 4 seasons
    [6:19:54 PM] Emeth: December solstice 2012 to September equinox

    addon.
    [6:20:19 PM] *** Emeth sent addon.gif addon.gif addon.gif ***
    [6:20:29 PM] Emeth: This is the update
    [6:20:47 PM] Emeth: It is a perfect symmetry and CONTAINS the main mandala as a subset
    [6:21:22 PM] Emeth: Main mandala is December 8th, 2004 to July 5th, 2013
    [6:21:24 PM] Sirius 17: omg what is taking so long?
    [6:21:36 PM] Sirius 17: 82 KB??
    [6:23:10 PM] Emeth: 82kb is normal and small
    [6:23:28 PM] Sirius 17: i know it was taking forever
    [6:23:33 PM] Sirius 17: i got it now
    [6:23:39 PM] Emeth: Must be W8
    [6:23:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [6:24:05 PM] Emeth: Just look at the boxes brown and blue
    [6:24:35 PM] Emeth: The two brown ones are little pregnancy the next are 'big pregnancy'
    [6:24:48 PM] Emeth: The 7 weeks are the inner mirrors say
    [6:25:18 PM] Emeth: So it says the mirror of mirrors is the beginning of the warpzone week
    [6:25:27 PM] Emeth: As required
    [6:25:41 PM] Emeth: Warpzone is the red and its image
    [6:25:53 PM] Emeth: 7½ years
    [6:26:11 PM] Emeth: But not in the image, as the 3½ times are encoded
    [6:26:20 PM] Emeth: This is the trick here
    [6:26:48 PM] Emeth: It is a perfect symmetry but the 3½ times differ internally in logistics and definition
    [6:26:56 PM] Emeth: The 7 weeks remain constant though
    [6:27:04 PM] Sirius 17: ok cool
    [6:27:12 PM] Emeth: Just as the 'mysterious' Daniel prophecy indicates
    [6:27:41 PM] Emeth: The 'experts' argue over if it is 7+62+1 or 62+7+1 and so on
    [6:27:44 PM] Emeth: It is BOTH
    [6:27:56 PM] Emeth: Namely as 7+55+7=69
    [6:28:23 PM] Emeth: It is very very elegant
    [6:28:37 PM] Emeth: Only for Logos eyes to see of course
    [6:28:58 PM] Sirius 17: nice yes
    [6:29:05 PM] Emeth: So the thief will continue in the global darkness until it becomes the light I suppose
    [6:29:22 PM] Emeth: This is NOT my decoding Raven
    [6:29:46 PM] Emeth: We just share the translations, which are TLTR for most
    [6:29:50 PM] Sirius 17: its a perfect symmetry
    [6:29:53 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [6:30:07 PM] Emeth: And see how the main mandala is simply the major part of it
    [6:30:22 PM] Emeth: Nothing at all changes in the main mandala
    [6:30:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [6:31:02 PM] Sirius 17: it mirrors foward perfectly
    [6:31:04 PM] Emeth: But as I said; June 17th ends chapter 19 and July 5th ends chapter 20
    [6:31:38 PM] Emeth: So now you have an idea that September 12th to September 22nd relate to chapters 21 and 22 somehow
    [6:32:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can see that
    [6:32:26 PM] Emeth: And this is just a few months away so we can hope
    [6:32:48 PM] Emeth: Now I DO expect the Nabsers to 'see' changes in September lol
    [6:32:53 PM] Sirius 17: no
    [6:33:13 PM] Sirius 17: everyone will see
    [6:33:25 PM] Emeth: Well I know this is true in the metaphysics
    [6:33:37 PM] Emeth: I would expect this yes
    [6:33:46 PM] Emeth: All the things that are happening
    [6:33:53 PM] Sirius 17: oh boy yeah
    [6:33:54 PM] Emeth: On the personal life messes
    [6:34:14 PM] Emeth: What is the point for simply going on as always
    [6:34:22 PM] Sirius 17: my life is in limbo if i dont get into this program
    [6:34:34 PM] Emeth: No letter today?
    [6:34:35 PM] Sirius 17: but it is in gods hands now
    [6:34:41 PM] Sirius 17: no
    [6:34:54 PM] Emeth: So what can you do if they postpone your entry?
    [6:35:03 PM] Sirius 17: and i was supposed to register for summer quarter on the 12th
    [6:35:17 PM] Sirius 17: well i can either switch majors or go back to work
    [6:35:22 PM] Sirius 17: and wait to apply next year
    [6:35:24 PM] Emeth: No letter than would mean they rejected you dear
    [6:35:30 PM] Sirius 17: no
    [6:35:38 PM] Sirius 17: they will send a rejection letter
    [6:35:41 PM] Emeth: This is my experience
    [6:35:55 PM] Sirius 17: i will get one of 3 letters, yes your in, no your not this time, or your on a wait list
    [6:35:56 PM] Emeth: But of many years ago
    [6:36:11 PM] Sirius 17: the director told us all to expect one of the 3 letters
    [6:36:37 PM] Sirius 17: so its ok
    [6:36:40 PM] Emeth: Yes, but it then depends on their timings of sending them
    [6:36:50 PM] Sirius 17: i trust that whatever happens it will be ok
    [6:37:00 PM] Emeth: Imo, they send the acceptance ones first and the rejections last. I could be wrong
    [6:37:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont know
    [6:37:21 PM] Emeth: Neither do I
    [6:37:27 PM] Sirius 17: she did mention that if we didnt have one by the 17th to call
    [6:37:36 PM] Emeth: Think contingency in any case
    [6:37:45 PM] Emeth: Like me here with Ripper see?
    [6:37:49 PM] Sirius 17: i have no contingency
    [6:38:05 PM] Emeth: Yes you do
    [6:38:15 PM] Sirius 17: no not really
    [6:38:27 PM] Emeth: Going back to work sucks
    [6:38:51 PM] Emeth: James might quit
    [6:38:57 PM] Sirius 17: well if i go back to work i want it to be in the health care field anyhow
    [6:39:10 PM] Sirius 17: why do you say that
    [6:39:14 PM] Emeth: You have some sort of qualification now?
    [6:39:21 PM] Sirius 17: not really
    [6:39:27 PM] Sirius 17: no certification
    [6:39:34 PM] Sirius 17: but i could get one i think
    [6:39:40 PM] Emeth: Well they supported you to learn see and you can push that
    [6:40:08 PM] Emeth: Yes to work in the health field i mean
    [6:40:24 PM] Sirius 17: i have been checking alternative programs but all of them i could finish in a quarter or two
    [6:40:42 PM] Sirius 17: they are certifications for things like EMT
    [6:40:51 PM] Sirius 17: medical assistant
    [6:40:54 PM] Sirius 17: bs like that
    [6:40:59 PM] Emeth: Sounds ok to me
    [6:41:22 PM] Emeth: You are new world anyhow and in transience here
    [6:41:23 PM] Sirius 17: so i dont know
    [6:41:29 PM] Emeth: Whatever you do or not do
    [6:41:45 PM] Sirius 17: it is kind of too late to switch my major for unemployment anyhow
    [6:42:09 PM] Emeth: You know what I am saying?
    [6:42:13 PM] Sirius 17: but at any rate i will talk to a councelor this week if i dont get in
    [6:42:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes why i said whatever happens is ok
    [6:42:36 PM] Emeth: I am saying, as long as you get something to do in the health field it is ok for the times
    [6:42:38 PM] Sirius 17: its gods will for me
    [6:42:52 PM] Sirius 17: i trust he knows best
    [6:43:05 PM] Sirius 17: oh for sure
    [6:43:08 PM] Emeth: Dont go back to the casino or get depressed over old systems
    [6:43:23 PM] Sirius 17: fuck no
    [6:43:31 PM] Sirius 17: i will go work for wallmart before i do that lol
    [6:43:44 PM] Emeth: If they reject you, it will be because of your age not aptitude
    [6:43:50 PM] Sirius 17: get two jobs or whatever it takes
    [6:44:06 PM] Sirius 17: yeah this is what i am thinking
    [6:44:12 PM] Emeth: Yes survivor griffon
    [6:44:23 PM] Sirius 17: but i also thought that possibly my trouble wth believablity could haunt me too, not sure
    [6:44:34 PM] Emeth: Nah
    [6:44:41 PM] Emeth: It is above their heads
    [6:44:57 PM] Emeth: You told the truth
    [6:45:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes but for some reason people dont take it as such with me
    [6:45:32 PM] Sirius 17: i am sure you can relate lol
    [6:45:37 PM] Emeth: Yep
    [6:46:01 PM] Emeth: And in my position it is irrelevant much more so than for you
    [6:46:53 PM] Sirius 17: oh i would not say that
    [6:46:58 PM] Sirius 17: your pretty relevant
    [6:47:09 PM] Sirius 17: but i know what you mean
    [6:47:18 PM] Emeth: I meant what the world makes of you
    [6:47:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [6:47:47 PM] Emeth: My judgement is not with them
    [6:48:37 PM] Sirius 17: so will you go with Adam to see Richard?
    [6:50:34 PM] Emeth: No, I am looking after David's dog lol
    [6:50:51 PM] Emeth: I am too slow for the kids
    [6:51:43 PM] Sirius 17: aww, well maybe its best he sees him alone
    [6:52:10 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [6:52:25 PM] Sirius 17: need to get you an electric chair
    [6:52:27 PM] Emeth: Vet first, then Richard
    [6:52:55 PM] Sirius 17: you know i bet that your disablity would pay for one
    [6:52:56 PM] Emeth: Adam has his own money now
    [6:53:22 PM] Emeth: I dont care for my position in this world much dear
    [6:53:23 PM] Sirius 17: i know you hate that idea but i think you should
    [6:53:30 PM] Emeth: I am ok and observing, like you
    [6:53:46 PM] Emeth: To be prepared if something happens just as the NT says ok?
    [6:53:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes but it would give you freedom to get around
    [6:54:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
    [6:54:24 PM] Emeth: Post July, I might reorganise things
    [6:54:35 PM] Sirius 17: but getting a chair doesnt mean you dont have faith either Tony
    [6:54:45 PM] Emeth: I simply dont know and have to live the cocreated Logos timeline
    [6:54:50 PM] Emeth: You understand this, yes?
    [6:54:51 PM] Sirius 17: we still have to do the dishes, eat, sleep and all that until the changes
    [6:55:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [6:55:16 PM] Emeth: Yes and I will retreat and go more mundane on those things post July
    [6:55:35 PM] Emeth: I could extend to September though
    [6:55:51 PM] Sirius 17: you said no more extensions lol
    [6:56:16 PM] Emeth: But then is the ISON comet and the rundown to your millennium January 30th, 2014 and so on as well as Susan's date, December 16th
    [6:56:18 PM] Sirius 17: holding you to that
    [6:56:40 PM] Emeth: Yes, it is no extension of the BOR to chapter 20 as said
    [6:57:10 PM] Emeth: The last 2 chapters are still misty
    [6:57:51 PM] Emeth: All I am saying is that the New World must exist by July 5th and then somehow getting preparted to descend as stated in chapter 22
    [6:57:59 PM] Sirius 17: i need to get to bed hon
    [6:58:19 PM] Emeth: Yes sure
    [6:58:24 PM] Emeth: Day by day
    [6:58:30 PM] Sirius 17: i want it to decend then
    [6:58:40 PM] Sirius 17: why wait
    [6:58:41 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [6:58:47 PM] Sirius 17: come on ABBA
    [6:58:49 PM] Emeth: Still fantasy to me atm
    [6:59:12 PM] Sirius 17: yeah well so was the laser and cell phones years back
    [6:59:23 PM] Sirius 17: thoughts do become reality
    [6:59:48 PM] Sirius 17: never ending story
    [7:00:31 PM] Sirius 17: i was looking at my garden the day of the dream and thinking how things really look
    [7:00:45 PM] Sirius 17: the beauty of the starplanet is yet to be seen
    [7:01:05 PM] Sirius 17: i am talking mindblowing colors and glowing with light
    [7:01:23 PM] Sirius 17: lifeforce visible
    [7:01:23 PM] Emeth: Yes I know
    [7:01:33 PM] Sirius 17: this world is such a shadow and pale to what it will be
    [7:01:40 PM] Emeth: I saw this in my Dante's Inferno 'vision'
    [7:01:45 PM] Sirius 17: yet so beautiful she is even now
    [7:02:05 PM] Sirius 17: but i could see the aura of what is to come
    [7:02:17 PM] Sirius 17: and thought what a shame if it doesnt manifest somehow
    [7:02:36 PM] Sirius 17: the animals and plants and life deserve it
    [7:02:47 PM] Sirius 17: this cannot become an empty canvas
    [7:02:50 PM] Sirius 17: its not right
    [7:03:37 PM] Emeth: Agreed
    [7:03:49 PM] Sirius 17: all the life here going extinct? its so pointless
    [7:04:01 PM] Sirius 17: this planet is the diversity of the entire universe
    [7:04:05 PM] Sirius 17: a jewel
    [7:04:11 PM] Emeth: I look at beautiful Ripper as a spirit and think, why can't this body just repair itself
    [7:04:25 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [7:04:33 PM] Sirius 17: and it pisses me off too
    [7:04:34 PM] Emeth: It is frustrating as hell
    [7:04:37 PM] Sirius 17: i get angry
    [7:05:03 PM] Emeth: I know so much and can invent many things but it all seems fantasy in this physicality
    [7:05:23 PM] Emeth: 'We deserve better than this'
    [7:05:28 PM] Sirius 17: you will and we will
    [7:05:35 PM] Emeth: We dream
    [7:05:55 PM] Sirius 17: no we awaken
    [7:06:02 PM] Sirius 17: the dream happend
    [7:06:11 PM] Emeth: Ok dear buenas and keep the spirits up
    [7:06:11 PM] Sirius 17: we are in it
    [7:06:22 PM] Emeth: I keep you informed about tomorrow
    [7:06:34 PM] Sirius 17: you too hon, take care of Ripper and Adam
    [7:06:42 PM] Emeth: Yes, DD's dreams are the past not ours
    [7:07:03 PM] Sirius 17: true
    [7:07:20 PM] Sirius 17: buenas noches
    [7:07:29 PM] Emeth: Buenas dear
    [7:07:36 PM] Sirius 17: emoticon-00152-heart. emoticon-00185-heidy. emoticon-00152-heart.

    [7:08:20 PM] Sirius 17: oh i remembered something
    [7:08:33 PM] Sirius 17: james got me a dozen roses for mothers day
    [7:08:51 PM] Sirius 17: on the day i had the dream, they were sitting out on the table outside
    [7:09:13 PM] Sirius 17: he walked into the screen door and they all fell out onto the ground, got bent and broken to hell
    [7:09:27 PM] Sirius 17: my crystal vase didnt break
    [7:09:43 PM] Sirius 17: so we gathered them up and i put them back in the vase
    [7:10:00 PM] Sirius 17: they all have bent heads except for maybe a few survive
    [7:10:12 PM] Emeth: Same day yes
    [7:10:25 PM] Emeth: Old ways dying imo
    [7:10:28 PM] Sirius 17: yeah, seems i cannot keep roses alive
    [7:10:44 PM] Emeth: ROSE=EROS=SORE
    [7:10:47 PM] Sirius 17: everytime i get roses he knocks over the vase
    [7:10:58 PM] Emeth: But the vase survived see
    [7:11:04 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [7:11:05 PM] Emeth: Means container is ok
    [7:11:13 PM] Sirius 17: just makes me sad
    [7:11:29 PM] Emeth: Body merkabah CAN survive and a hint perhaps
    [7:11:35 PM] Sirius 17: but it is something between him and Rose i guess
    [7:11:38 PM] Emeth: One hopes
    [7:11:51 PM] Emeth: Nah same as for all cores
    [7:11:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes i like that
    [7:12:00 PM] Emeth: Rose is like MI
    [7:12:17 PM] Sirius 17: i mean why he keeps knocking over the vases lol
    [7:12:19 PM] Emeth: So taken care of because she is in your remembrance
    [7:12:38 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
    [7:12:38 PM] Emeth: Remember Rev.14 about the dead alive ones
    [7:12:49 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [7:14:07 PM] Sirius 17:

    12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
    13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
    14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
    15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
    16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

    [7:14:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is harvest time
    [7:15:20 PM] Sirius 17: 16 is kind of sexy, thrusting his sickle in the earth
    [7:16:07 PM] Emeth: Yes 13
    [7:16:30 PM] Emeth: All of this is multivalued
    [7:16:41 PM] Emeth: There are 7 see?
    [7:16:56 PM] Emeth: Those 7 weeks all over in repeats
    [7:17:19 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [7:17:57 PM] Emeth: 17 June is the end of the sevens
    [7:17:57 PM] Sirius 17:

    Genesis 16 - (King James Version)

    1 Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar.
    2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the Lord hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.
    3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
    4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.
    5 And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the Lord judge between me and thee.
    6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thine hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face.
    7 And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
    8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.
    9 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.
    10 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
    11 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.
    12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
    13 And she called the name of the Lord that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me?
    14 Wherefore the well was called Beerlahairoi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered.
    15 And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.
    16 And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram.

    [7:18:16 PM] Sirius 17: Genesis 16 for MI's birthday
    [7:18:25 PM] Emeth: 86
    [7:18:57 PM] Emeth: How old was Abe for Isaac?
    [7:18:59 PM] Sirius 17:

    (16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."

    [7:19:14 PM] Sirius 17: 46?
    [7:19:24 PM] Emeth: Nono older than 86
    [7:19:39 PM] Emeth: Look at Gen 17
    [7:19:42 PM] Sirius 17: what the hell is fourscore?
    [7:19:45 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [7:19:47 PM] Emeth: 80
    [7:19:50 PM] Sirius 17: ok
    [7:19:50 PM] Emeth: 4x20
    [7:20:07 PM] Sirius 17: ok got it
    [7:20:21 PM] Emeth: Its code
    [7:20:35 PM] Sirius 17: yes i figured
    [7:20:38 PM] Emeth: Sarah was 100 I think but I cant recall atm
    [7:20:42 PM] Sirius 17:

    (86) Jesus said, "The foxes have their holes and the birds have their nests, but the son of man has no place to lay his head and rest."
    (61) Jesus said, "Two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and the other will live."
    Salome said, "Who are you, man, that you ... have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?"
    Jesus said to her, "I am he who exists from the undivided. I was given some of the things of my father."
    <...> "I am your disciple."
    <...> "Therefore I say, if he is destroyed, he will be filled with light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."

    [7:21:19 PM] Sirius 17: 61=16
    [7:24:25 PM] Emeth: Abe was 100 for Isaac Genesis.18
    [7:24:50 PM] Emeth: So 14 years here mean something
    [7:25:04 PM] Emeth: as the 14x3=42 generations of jesus
    [7:25:16 PM] Sirius 17: oh wow cool
    [7:25:28 PM] Emeth: Yes read genesis 17 and 18 for contexts
    [7:25:42 PM] Emeth: The 42 are specified in Matthew
    [7:25:52 PM] Emeth: 42=New=Maria
    [7:26:13 PM] Emeth: Matthew.1
    [7:26:41 PM] Sirius 17:

    1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

    [7:26:45 PM] Sirius 17: what about this one
    [7:27:17 PM] Emeth: This is for the Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah and also the RENAMING
    [7:27:22 PM] Emeth: very important
    [7:27:35 PM] Emeth: Abram become Abraham and Sarai sarah
    [7:27:51 PM] Emeth: This is the Jacob-Israel Jesus1-Jesus2 thing
    [7:27:52 PM] Sirius 17:

    17 Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?

    24 And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
    25 And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
    26 In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son.
    27 And all the men of his house, born in the house, and bought with money of the stranger, were circumcised with him.

    [7:28:47 PM] Emeth: Yes see the 13+1=14 years?
    [7:29:06 PM] Emeth: It says there about the difference between the Ishmael and Isaac generations
    [7:29:32 PM] Emeth: The circumcision here is physical which becomes spiritual in the GOT
    [7:30:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes i knew about the circumcision, no i dont see the 14
    [7:30:42 PM] Emeth: Abe is 99 then he is 99+1=100 look at Gen18
    [7:30:44 PM] Sirius 17: 13+1? Ishmales age and?
    [7:30:56 PM] Emeth: 14x3=42
    [7:30:57 PM] Sirius 17: i am
    [7:31:01 PM] Emeth: Look at Matthew.1
    [7:31:48 PM] Emeth: Oh it is Gen.21
    [7:32:14 PM] Sirius 17: when sara gives birth?
    [7:32:17 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [7:32:20 PM] Sirius 17: he is 99+1
    [7:32:23 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [7:32:24 PM] Sirius 17: ok i see
    [7:32:30 PM] Emeth: So Ishmael is 14
    [7:32:32 PM] Sirius 17: and Ishmael is 13+1
    [7:32:36 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [7:32:37 PM] Sirius 17: at that time
    [7:32:54 PM] Emeth: Key code is now the Hebrew history as per Matthew.1
    [7:33:23 PM] Emeth: Abraham to David to Babylon to Jesus
    [7:33:42 PM] Emeth: Look at Matthew.1
    [7:33:44 PM] Sirius 17: ok so matthew lists the linnages
    [7:33:53 PM] Emeth: Yes as 14x3
    [7:34:16 PM] Sirius 17:

    17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

    [7:34:38 PM] Emeth: 17 yes
    [7:35:02 PM] Sirius 17: lol wow
    [7:35:09 PM] Sirius 17: Tony you blow my mind
    [7:35:13 PM] Emeth: Abe is 86 for Ishmael as the older 'nonblessed' generation and is 100 for the isaac code
    [7:35:13 PM] Sirius 17: how you remember all this
    [7:35:21 PM] Emeth: I am meant to
    [7:35:50 PM] Emeth: Noone afaik has ever seen this
    [7:35:55 PM] Sirius 17: i know dear, but sometimes i have to say it
    [7:36:19 PM] Emeth: 86=Melchisedec the Greek way
    [7:36:22 PM] Sirius 17: no one but us
    [7:36:28 PM] Emeth: Jesus eternal priesthood
    [7:36:48 PM] Emeth: 100=Mother of
    [7:37:03 PM] Emeth: 79+21=AlphaOmega of
    [7:37:12 PM] Emeth: 100=Taurus
    [7:37:32 PM] Emeth: 101=Melchizedek of the Nabs
    [7:37:36 PM] Emeth: OT
    [7:37:41 PM] Emeth: NT is greek
    [7:37:59 PM] Emeth: 101 is the secret of the 5
    [7:38:00 PM] Sirius 17: nice
    [7:38:18 PM] Emeth: 1=1 10=2 11=3 100=4 101=5
    [7:38:24 PM] Emeth: Binary Code
    [7:38:31 PM] Sirius 17: again yes
    [7:38:47 PM] Sirius 17: lol no wonder Abe was 100
    [7:39:04 PM] Emeth: There are 'perfect generations'
    [7:39:06 PM] Sirius 17: cubed
    [7:39:09 PM] Emeth: Noah is the tenth
    [7:39:26 PM] Emeth: Enoch is the 7th as the one 'taken'
    [7:39:43 PM] Emeth: I posted all this in great detail but it is TLTR
    [7:39:51 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [7:39:55 PM] Sirius 17: i know you did
    [7:40:04 PM] Emeth: Nibiru and hollow earths are more interesting
    [7:40:38 PM] Sirius 17: so the whole bible is like a binary code
    [7:40:45 PM] Sirius 17: from beginging to end
    [7:40:54 PM] Sirius 17: new algorhythm
    [7:41:12 PM] Emeth: I dont know about binary, but it is coded in all the numerics for sure
    [7:41:32 PM] Sirius 17: well i mean like a program
    [7:41:52 PM] Emeth: Like noone ever really counted the Flood as actual days and mapped them onto Daniel and the present times'
    [7:42:12 PM] Sirius 17: its just so damn intricate
    [7:42:17 PM] Emeth: Most if not all think it all is past history of say 600 BC
    [7:42:36 PM] Sirius 17: no i dont think so
    [7:42:45 PM] Sirius 17: who the fuck could figure this out
    [7:42:49 PM] Sirius 17: seriously
    [7:43:05 PM] Sirius 17: but when it is seen it seems simple
    [7:43:10 PM] Sirius 17: but not
    [7:43:34 PM] Sirius 17: i know this didn't come from you obvously
    [7:43:51 PM] Sirius 17: but you were shown the keys
    [7:44:45 PM] Sirius 17: i mean the sheer odds of it being some fantasy in your head is ruled out
    [7:45:19 PM] Emeth: I am a skeptic dear
    [7:45:25 PM] Sirius 17: how can you be
    [7:45:29 PM] Sirius 17: there it is
    [7:45:39 PM] Emeth: But as you say, this must mean something by chance alone
    [7:45:50 PM] Sirius 17: what are the odds?
    [7:45:55 PM] Sirius 17: i mean seriously
    [7:46:05 PM] Emeth: I dont know the parameters to calculate
    [7:46:33 PM] Sirius 17: well i know your skeptical as to how it plays out physically
    [7:46:34 PM] Emeth: To me it is simply the story being read in cohesion and not in parts
    [7:46:43 PM] Sirius 17: but the proof is right there on the page
    [7:46:46 PM] Emeth: And with the GOT it becomes potent
    [7:46:51 PM] Sirius 17: i mean it doesn't get any clearer
    [7:46:58 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
    [7:47:05 PM] Emeth: It can still be said to be ad hoc Raven
    [7:47:19 PM] Emeth: Vivid imaginations
    [7:47:24 PM] Sirius 17: ad hoc to what?
    [7:47:37 PM] Emeth: Some story telling and making it up
    [7:47:50 PM] Sirius 17: you didn't make up those numbers
    [7:47:59 PM] Sirius 17: they were written 2000 years ago
    [7:48:02 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [7:48:08 PM] Emeth: Using any old pattern in say Noah, to fabricate this as meaning something in the civil calendar
    [7:48:15 PM] Emeth: No I did not
    [7:48:34 PM] Emeth: BUT I read things into them in 'poetic licence of creativity'
    [7:48:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes but it paints a symmetry that is beyond chance hon
    [7:49:07 PM] Sirius 17: how does that happen?
    [7:49:10 PM] Emeth: This 'reading into them' then becomes the value or nonsense see?
    [7:49:27 PM] Emeth: Relative to you and me certainly
    [7:49:30 PM] Sirius 17: i am talking a mathematical symmetry that cannot be denied
    [7:50:06 PM] Emeth: It is elegant and nice yes, but to a mathematical analysis it might just be one of many possible permutations
    [7:50:11 PM] Sirius 17: including the tie into the current calender
    [7:50:20 PM] Emeth: Yes ad hoc
    [7:50:28 PM] Sirius 17: whatever
    [7:50:43 PM] Sirius 17: i see the metaphysical significance
    [7:50:43 PM] Emeth: Nice, but other meanings or patterns might also be possible
    [7:51:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes and how many have tried this
    [7:51:20 PM] Emeth: Yes and because the metaphysics and selfconsistency is so strong in those last 2 mandalas, see, have me convinced
    [7:51:30 PM] Emeth: Thousands Raven
    [7:51:40 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
    [7:51:58 PM] Emeth: But most are fundamentalist believers and not scientists
    [7:52:00 PM] Sirius 17: and none of them have shown this much symmetry and meaning
    [7:52:05 PM] Emeth: True
    [7:52:11 PM] Sirius 17: NONE
    [7:52:20 PM] Emeth: There is nothing in history like this, nowhere near it
    [7:52:29 PM] Emeth: This is unique
    [7:52:36 PM] Sirius 17: it is
    [7:52:41 PM] Emeth: But could just be a story nevertheless, lol
    [7:52:50 PM] Sirius 17: no i dont think so
    [7:52:51 PM] Emeth: BUT this MIGHT be sufficient see this?
    [7:53:01 PM] Emeth: Think deeper
    [7:53:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes yes i know
    [7:53:16 PM] Sirius 17: it is sufficient
    [7:53:24 PM] Emeth: Whose story is this? It is the Story of Abba and Baab and the truth, the World Logos.
    [7:53:26 PM] Sirius 17: way more then sufficient
    [7:53:48 PM] Sirius 17: it is the story of us
    [7:54:13 PM] Sirius 17: and NOONE lol
    [7:54:28 PM] Emeth:

    John 14 - King James Version (KJV)

    14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
    2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
    3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
    4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
    5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
    8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
    9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
    10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
    11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
    12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
    13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
    14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
    15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
    16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
    17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
    18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
    19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
    20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
    21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
    22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
    23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
    25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
    26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
    28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
    29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
    30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
    31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

    [7:55:41 PM] Emeth: THIS IS THE WORK OF THUBAN
    [7:55:46 PM] Emeth: [7:54 PM] Emeth:

    <<< 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

    [7:56:43 PM] Emeth: And look at 26 here
    [7:56:55 PM] Emeth:

    John 15 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
    2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
    3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
    4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
    5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
    6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
    7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
    8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
    9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
    10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
    11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
    12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
    13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
    14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
    15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
    16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
    17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
    18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
    19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
    20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
    21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
    22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.
    23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
    24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.
    25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
    26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
    27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

    [7:56:58 PM] Emeth:

    26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
    27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

    [7:57:37 PM] Emeth: Bringing to remembrance is what we do and are hated for
    [7:58:09 PM] Emeth: The holy ghost TESTIFIES to Jesus not fucking human minded fools
    [7:58:17 PM] Sirius 17: [7:54 PM] Emeth:

    <<< 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
    23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

    [7:58:37 PM] Emeth: See how this is the precursor to the GOT?
    [7:59:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [7:59:09 PM] Sirius 17: [7:56 PM] Emeth:

    <<< 16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
    17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
    18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

    [7:59:16 PM] Emeth: And the world remains blind
    [7:59:47 PM] Sirius 17: No love for Jesus
    [7:59:54 PM] Sirius 17: or ABBA
    [7:59:56 PM] Emeth: But those scripts kept me going Raven
    [8:00:04 PM] Sirius 17: powerful
    [8:00:09 PM] Sirius 17: words of life
    [8:00:17 PM] Emeth: Because IF I am deluded, then so what and no great loss
    [8:00:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes well we fit in well with the rest of the nuts
    [8:01:03 PM] Sirius 17: so what
    [8:01:55 PM] Emeth: But if there is any truth to this, then staying in human mindedness of denial lets the Logos and Abba down
    [8:02:02 PM] Emeth: And this we can't afford to do
    [8:02:24 PM] Sirius 17: [7:56 PM] Emeth:

    <<< 25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

    [8:02:30 PM] Emeth: So it is a sacrifice of our human mindedness actually
    [8:02:38 PM] Sirius 17: boy do we know that one
    [8:02:41 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [8:02:58 PM] Emeth: Evil Dragons
    [8:03:11 PM] Sirius 17: we remain
    [8:03:40 PM] Sirius 17: because we are his friends
    [8:03:41 PM] Emeth: Now look at Xeia she loves to 'sacrifice' her human mindedness
    [8:04:12 PM] Emeth: To the ire of Rok
    [8:04:19 PM] Sirius 17: true
    [8:04:29 PM] Emeth: Lots of 'conflicts of the cosmic self'
    [8:04:43 PM] Emeth: Core issues
    [8:05:15 PM] Emeth: So you can see this as an evolvement, despite our personal sufferings
    [8:05:33 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i can
    [8:05:56 PM] Emeth: [8:02 PM] Sirius 17:
    <<< [7:56 PM] Emeth:

    <<< 25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.But again a time must come, WHEN those words are fulfilled

    [8:06:07 PM] Emeth: And this is what those charts are about
    [8:06:19 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [8:06:38 PM] Emeth: Yes and you can understand me better now
    [8:07:01 PM] Emeth: Unidirectional purpose to 'make those things pass'
    [8:07:11 PM] Sirius 17: i do understand you dear and i know what your task is
    [8:07:20 PM] Sirius 17: and the sacrafices you have endured
    [8:07:21 PM] Emeth: Now who is doing this in an proactive explicatory way?
    [8:07:46 PM] Emeth: Are the nabsers doing this, waiting for Annunaki or the rapture enthusiasts?
    [8:07:55 PM] Sirius 17: well we are
    [8:08:06 PM] Emeth: What good are they for the Abba Story?
    [8:08:08 PM] Sirius 17: they are
    [8:08:20 PM] Sirius 17: they are not
    [8:08:43 PM] Emeth: Yes yes I know you can see this objectively and impersonally
    [8:08:46 PM] Sirius 17: well they play a role
    [8:08:59 PM] Emeth: As the anti- and deniers of course
    [8:09:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [8:09:11 PM] Emeth: Fearful ones actually
    [8:10:10 PM] Emeth: Look closely here; it says THEIR LAW see?
    [8:10:14 PM] Emeth: [8:05 PM] Emeth:
    <<< <<< 25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

    [8:10:24 PM] Emeth: So this is very dire for them
    [8:10:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes i noticed that
    [8:10:52 PM] Emeth: They are denying not some fantasy Jesus, but their own traditions and jurisdictions
    [8:11:20 PM] Emeth: So their own ideas will judge them, just as Jesus said
    [8:11:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes by their own law
    [8:11:42 PM] Emeth: Indeed
    [8:11:52 PM] Sirius 17: happening now globally
    [8:12:08 PM] Sirius 17: they are imprisoned by their own judgement
    [8:12:22 PM] Emeth: The Bonaccis and Ucadians will find their selfmade heavens
    [8:12:49 PM] Emeth: And their feared hells and abysses too
    [8:13:35 PM] Sirius 17: yes they will
    [8:14:31 PM] Sirius 17: i had better go to bed dear
    [8:14:36 PM] Sirius 17: i am fading
    [8:14:55 PM] Sirius 17: i will get up in a few hours to get carla to school
    [8:15:30 PM] Emeth: Buenas again. I hope you feel better now
    [8:15:32 PM] Sirius 17: take care and give Ripper a kiss for me
    [8:15:52 PM] Sirius 17: thank you hon, i do
    [8:16:21 PM] Emeth: Good to hear
    [8:16:59 PM] Sirius 17: [7:56 PM] Emeth:

    <<< 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
    this is us
    [8:17:18 PM] Sirius 17: not from here
    [8:17:20 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [8:17:26 PM] Emeth: Sadly yes
    [8:18:07 PM] Sirius 17: bonn notte
    [8:18:25 PM] Sirius 17: emoticon-00155-flower. emoticon-00152-heart. emoticon-00155-flower.

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    Jorgelito - Posted May 17th 2013

    Emeth, I hope your dog pulls through.


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      Emeth, I hope your dog pulls through.





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    • Emeth, he looks like a fine dog!
     
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    • Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 19th 2013

      Logos Questions Continued - Pentecost 2013

      [3:55:51 PM-Sunday, May 19th, 2013 -+10UCT]
      Emeth: yes we experience similar I'd say
      [3:56:31 PM] Kali 666: you know the desire Raven spoke of before?
      [3:56:42 PM] Kali 666: to be ravished by her Core?
      [3:56:58 PM] Kali 666: i want to feel the same from Rok
      [3:57:16 PM] Kali 666: and i want THAT to be reason enough for things to happen
      [3:57:16 PM] Emeth: One thing I wish you both to really think about ok?
      [3:57:27 PM] Emeth: I start with a question
      [3:57:39 PM] Emeth: You or Rok are on an Island without food or water
      [3:57:44 PM] Emeth: What will happen?
      [3:58:46 PM] Kali 666: we will have to put our minds together and think as one to figure out a way to survive
      [3:59:11 PM] Kali 666: because time would be working against us
      [3:59:15 PM] Kali 666: no time for bs
      [3:59:31 PM] Emeth: I mean it more basic
      [3:59:42 PM] Emeth: You die without nourishment in human form
      [3:59:48 PM] Kali 666: ofc
      [3:59:53 PM] Emeth: And it is either of you NOT both together at the start
      [3:59:53 PM] Kali 666: worse case scanario
      [4:00:02 PM] Emeth: Yes and so what is a core?
      [4:00:09 PM] Kali 666: well one following the other i would guess
      [4:00:15 PM] Emeth: A core means you are 'the same body and flesh'
      [4:00:23 PM] Kali 666: yes
      [4:00:30 PM] Emeth: Meaning you CANNOT FEED of each other
      [4:00:49 PM] Emeth: So this is the NATURE of a starhuman core
      [4:01:08 PM] Emeth: It cannot FEED itself but requires an 'external' food source
      [4:01:15 PM] Kali 666: a drone
      [4:01:15 PM] Emeth: Now for Rok this means the following
      [4:01:19 PM] Emeth: YES
      [4:01:40 PM] Emeth: John CAN feed you AND Rok as a drone but never as a KingBee
      [4:01:51 PM] Emeth: The KB-QB BEING the core
      [4:02:13 PM] Emeth: So this is why cosmic coresharing not only becomes lawful BUT NECESSITY
      [4:02:29 PM] Kali 666: makes sense
      [4:02:34 PM] Emeth: ANY man except Rok CAN feed you as a Cosmic DragonMother
      [4:03:02 PM] Kali 666: oh oh oh oh wait
      [4:03:07 PM] Kali 666: and he cannot?
      [4:03:15 PM] Emeth: Likewise Rok AS a cored dragon is sort of cosmically asked to FEED other cores by giving 'his substance' to other Cosmic Wombs
      [4:03:22 PM] Emeth: NO
      [4:03:23 PM] Kali 666: is this the same problem Raven has with James?
      [4:03:26 PM] Emeth: YES
      [4:03:45 PM] Emeth: A CORE means ONE BODY
      [4:03:56 PM] Emeth: You starve to death in a old human 1-1 ness
      [4:04:06 PM] Kali 666: i do
      [4:04:24 PM] Emeth: Only Cores can share old humans doing this becomes sex games
      [4:04:24 PM] Kali 666: *sighs*
      [4:04:46 PM] Sirius 17: so i am starving
      [4:04:50 PM] Emeth: Yes
      [4:04:51 PM] Kali 666: i see what you're saying
      [4:05:02 PM] Emeth: This is super duper deep and important
      [4:05:22 PM] Emeth: It is pentecost today and this nous is allowed to be shared now
      [4:05:59 PM] Emeth: This 'explains' the entire sexual fuckup and cheating and getting tiresome etc of human sexuality and marriage
      [4:06:12 PM] Kali 666: hmm

      [4:06:20 PM] Kali 666: [3:05 PM] raxnae:
      <<< you are starved as I am

      [4:06:28 PM] Emeth: As said try to think this through logically
      [4:06:46 PM] Emeth: You are on an islans either alone or cored it m akes no difference
      [4:07:01 PM] Kali 666: the island...yes!
      [4:07:09 PM] Emeth: Only 'external hives' and drones can feed not just YOU but your CORE
      [4:07:10 PM] Kali 666: it does feel as if we are in one already
      [4:07:20 PM] Kali 666: completely isolated
      [4:07:28 PM] Emeth: I dont think you are listening
      [4:07:42 PM] Emeth: This is besides the issue here
      [4:08:08 PM] Emeth: Forget rax cosmology it is human minded
      [4:08:31 PM] Kali 666: so to fix Raven's problem James would have to think of sharing?
      [4:08:45 PM] Kali 666: or at least to see if he can get aroused by that?
      [4:08:57 PM] Emeth: The JCCJ is doing this not human thinking
      [4:09:11 PM] Emeth: You are describing subplots here
      [4:09:33 PM] Emeth: Perhaps Rok can figure this logically and then share with you
      [4:09:59 PM] Emeth: He will not like it of course, but this is how the cosmic cores function
      [4:10:07 PM] Emeth: And they are like cellular mitosis
      [4:10:29 PM] Emeth: So isolated cells multiply by symbiosis period
      [4:10:41 PM] Emeth: Raven can elaborate on this
      [4:10:58 PM] Kali 666: Rok spoke to me in the afternoon about me looking at him being with another...and i told him i would need the actual experience to see how i would feel about it for real
      [4:11:00 PM] Kali 666: not just in mind
      [4:11:16 PM] Kali 666: but he seems to think i would not be able to take it
      [4:11:19 PM] Emeth: Cores simply infer bipolar cellular basis and not unicellular
      [4:11:43 PM] Emeth: unicellular is old human bipolar is starhuman on the cosmocellular-galactic level
      [4:12:25 PM] Emeth: Well I am past trying to saty and elucidate the same cosmic biology over and over again
      [4:12:34 PM] Sirius 17: yes to make a human being requires Meiosis, sharing genetic material. Cells that reproduce with Mitosis clone themselves and the DNA is the same, no diversity.
      [4:13:04 PM] Kali 666: i think we all understand teh mechanics by now
      [4:13:07 PM] Emeth: This is New World starhuman-ET interaction not old world safety marriage partnering stuff
      [4:13:19 PM] Kali 666: but doing it here in 3d is a bit hard
      [4:13:19 PM] Emeth: Yes Raven
      [4:14:00 PM] Emeth: Now make this galactic as cells are simply galaxies in the Body of Baab-Abba and you see that Abba-Baab require the seedling universe to multiply AS a QueenBee
      [4:14:38 PM] Emeth: It is not hard at all if the 'participants' are real cores period
      [4:14:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes why galaxys are attracted to each other to exchange material and birth new stars and worlds
      [4:14:57 PM] Emeth: Bingo
      [4:15:05 PM] Emeth: Starhumans
      [4:15:36 PM] Emeth: Dragons of the real kind not raxnagorian drugged out pretenders
      [4:15:48 PM] Sirius 17: lol
      [4:16:46 PM] Emeth: This is the cosmo-dna beyond the biological dna the wave dna beyond the particular biochemistry
      [4:18:00 PM] Kali 666: is it wrong for me to ask Rok to be with someone else over there?
      [4:19:17 PM] Sirius 17: why would it be wrong
      [4:19:59 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know if he would
      [4:20:14 PM] Sirius 17: but it is not wrong to give him freedom
      [4:20:42 PM] Kali 666: he is not wrong when he says it would hurt me
      [4:21:06 PM] Kali 666: but that won't make me to stop loving him
      [4:21:14 PM] Kali 666: of that much i'm sure
      [4:21:38 PM] Sirius 17: just as he can't stop loving you even though you sleep with John every night, yes
      [4:22:09 PM] Kali 666: so it's not fair to him...he's right
      [4:22:52 PM] Sirius 17: but why would it hurt you? if you both shared with each other your experiences and kept nothing hidden
      [4:22:59 PM] Emeth: Why would it hurt you Xeia?
      [4:23:11 PM] Sirius 17: it would not diminish the love
      [4:23:45 PM] Kali 666: i don't know how long the hurt would last Tony...but i know i would be...at least at first
      [4:23:50 PM] Emeth: He is FEEDING YOUR CORE if he acts AS A DRONE knowingly; meaning he KNOWS that his lover there IS cored with someone else NOT him
      [4:24:12 PM] Emeth: If you feel hurt AS a true core, then you are not cored to the partner you think you are cored to. You would be aroused by the thought of it in the former case.
      [4:24:18 PM] Kali 666: but it is very hard to find someone like that
      [4:24:29 PM] Kali 666: some girl already Cored
      [4:24:51 PM] Kali 666: no..i mean hurt as in my own vanity
      [4:24:53 PM] Emeth: Every starhuman femme is by nature a QueenBee period.
      [4:24:54 PM] Kali 666: you know
      [4:25:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes and this is your human mind talking not your divine one
      [4:25:32 PM] Emeth: Every starhuman man is by definition a Drone to All Queenbees except one, his own core to whom he is the one and only KingBee
      [4:25:38 PM] Emeth: Is this so hard to understand?
      [4:25:53 PM] Emeth: Look at a beehive or an anthill to get the basic idea of this
      [4:26:02 PM] Kali 666: i do understand it
      [4:26:08 PM] Kali 666: and i think Rok does too
      [4:26:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes we all do
      [4:26:11 PM] Emeth: But you cant live it
      [4:26:19 PM] Kali 666: we try
      [4:26:49 PM] Emeth: It is new world and perhaps has to await actual interracial cosmic contact
      [4:27:14 PM] Emeth: But Thuban is pioneering this and as a Thuban you should understand this agency and ambassadorhood
      [4:27:35 PM] Emeth: I dont expect Nabsers to understand much at all about this
      [4:28:22 PM] Sirius 17: just like it is my human mind Xeia that tells me I am not beautiful, or desireable or whatever
      [4:28:26 PM] Sirius 17: its a meme
      [4:28:28 PM] Sirius 17: a fake
      [4:28:35 PM] Sirius 17: do i listen to it?
      [4:28:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes at my own detriment
      [4:29:08 PM] Sirius 17: the new world is a brave new world
      [4:29:27 PM] Sirius 17: brave enough to challange the old ways of thinking
      [4:30:46 PM] Emeth: Indeed
      [4:31:28 PM] Emeth: And just looking at the galaxies and the evolving cosmos and the natural orders and the lifeforms all about you, gives many indicators
      [4:31:56 PM] Emeth: But as Jesus says, the kingdom is spread out under mankinds noses and eyes; yet they cant see it
      [4:33:03 PM] Kali 666: i feel Rok is not as sexual as he used to be with me
      [4:33:18 PM] Kali 666: i wonder if he will end up like James with Raven
      [4:33:19 PM] Sirius 17: well his memes are getting to him too
      [4:33:29 PM] Sirius 17: its a battle we all wage
      [4:33:35 PM] Sirius 17: insecurity
      [4:33:39 PM] Sirius 17: we all have it
      [4:33:45 PM] Emeth: Because you are emphasising those 1-1 old world partnerships which are mortal
      [4:33:54 PM] Kali 666: i asked him to show me his dick today and he didn't want to
      [4:34:04 PM] Kali 666: how?
      [4:34:04 PM] Emeth: The Core is the New 1-1 and immortal
      [4:34:16 PM] Kali 666: i was just focusing on seeing him again
      [4:34:31 PM] Kali 666: it's the only thing that has been on my mind for weeks now
      [4:35:14 PM] Kali 666: and now it's all ruined
      [4:35:16 PM] Kali 666: =(
      [4:35:30 PM] Emeth: The ment-ment and ment-phys and phys-phys trio is we all can agree, totally insufficient and fucked up in human terms in its supposedly pioneering Thuban self expression
      [4:36:06 PM] Emeth: But in the metaphysics it might be all sufficient just being like that, we hope
      [4:36:24 PM] Kali 666: i feel like whoring myself now
      [4:36:25 PM] Kali 666: seriously
      [4:36:39 PM] Emeth: Makes you cosmically attractive
      [4:37:05 PM] Emeth: Xeia as a galactic seed not some 3D Florida femme
      [4:37:44 PM] Emeth: Looking for the love and light nand temporary 'satisfactions'
      [4:37:49 PM] Sirius 17: as long as it is just your body you whore and never your mind, your good
      [4:38:11 PM] Emeth: My comment implies that xeia is cored raven
      [4:38:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [4:38:50 PM] Emeth: If not to any incarnate male bodyform, then to a disincarnate, yet manifested waveform with an ET maleness expressed
      [4:39:24 PM] Sirius 17: a 'dream lover' yes
      [4:39:24 PM] Emeth: Humans are uncored and can continue on their merry marrying and cheating ways as they please
      [4:42:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was referring to DD, like she does
      [4:44:13 PM] Sirius 17: DD still seeks her perfect love, not recognizing she found it already
      [4:46:22 PM] Kali 666: i'm going to bed
      [4:46:46 PM] Kali 666: sweet dreams you guys
      [4:46:50 PM] Kali 666: (F)
      [4:46:55 PM] Emeth: Buenas Xeia and be easy on yourself for a few weeks
      [4:47:01 PM] Sirius 17: sweet dreams to you too hon
      [4:47:15 PM] Kali 666: i was planning to dissapear for a while
      [4:47:31 PM] Emeth: Good idea for all of us
      [4:47:36 PM] Kali 666: Rok might want some time alone to think
      [4:47:42 PM] Kali 666: i dunno
      [4:47:59 PM] Kali 666: i seem to affect him adversely or something
      [4:48:17 PM] Emeth: You are not alone in those coring teething problems
      [4:48:45 PM] Emeth: But today and yesterday are of cosmic significance
      [4:49:35 PM] Emeth: I am working on the 'Logos message' of the 4.4 year roundtrip to the Centauri starsystem being the one way journey from Sirius in 8.8 lightyears
      [4:50:31 PM] Emeth: Recall the original sound of creation, often said to have been OM
      [4:50:40 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [4:50:41 PM] Emeth: It was OM MO of the Nommo
      [4:50:53 PM] Sirius 17: the Dogon yes
      [4:50:56 PM] Emeth: And we know who they are
      [4:51:37 PM] Emeth: The 'brightest dog star' is also the 'darkest god star' in the Dragon science
      [4:51:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes the Sirians
      [4:53:24 PM] Emeth: Emerald tabletted City and such yes
      [4:53:35 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was seeing it
      [4:54:10 PM] Emeth: Me too. I saw many oval menhir like rocks and stones, who are the stones from the GOT
      [4:54:30 PM] Sirius 17: you did?
      [4:54:54 PM] Sirius 17: is that what they are?
      [4:55:06 PM] Emeth: Last night yes, when I contemplated the Ripper R.I.P. Per Canis Majoris Nommo
      [4:55:17 PM] Emeth: Just an impression Raven
      [4:55:39 PM] Sirius 17: well these are around the city in my dream too
      [4:55:46 PM] Emeth: Really?
      [4:55:53 PM] Emeth: Nice synchro
      [4:56:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes, didnt know what they were called though
      [4:56:30 PM] Emeth: Some where smooth elliptical stones; but there where many shapes and sizes
      [4:56:33 PM] Sirius 17: some of them lean against the buildings
      [4:56:42 PM] Sirius 17: and some stand free
      [4:56:56 PM] Emeth: Yes I saw kinda constructions and those oval stones were like bricks
      [4:57:18 PM] Emeth: Ripper said 'Bermanseder' is a Sirian Namecode
      [4:57:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes i would agree with him
      [4:58:13 PM] Emeth: So this might relate to the 'City of Light' from the tempest storms of darkness I saw in 1985 or so
      [4:59:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [5:00:04 PM] Sirius 17: well what i saw was a city on a planet with two moons
      [5:00:21 PM] Sirius 17: overlooking a lagoon
      [5:00:25 PM] Sirius 17: or a bay
      [5:00:39 PM] Emeth: It was just an impression without greater telescopic range
      [5:00:59 PM] Emeth: But I share any further impressions i might receive
      [5:01:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont know, the moons and water could be symbols
      [5:01:49 PM] Sirius 17: i could not enter into the buildings
      [5:02:20 PM] Emeth: What did Nosey use for his insights?
      [5:02:23 PM] Sirius 17: but i have not really tried since you know, in my mind when i go back there
      [5:02:47 PM] Sirius 17: a dish of water right?
      [5:02:48 PM] Emeth: He used a dark obsidian rock; the ones i saw as common building material were grey
      [5:03:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes and obsdidan
      [5:03:26 PM] Emeth: Yes, but this sort of 'gnosis' then reminds me somehow of this Sirian landscape
      [5:03:38 PM] Emeth: But it is vague atm
      [5:03:59 PM] Sirius 17: the walls were stone but they glowed and were like crystalline, granite like
      [5:04:05 PM] Sirius 17: bluish
      [5:04:17 PM] Emeth: Granite yes, hardness was there like in Cheops
      [5:04:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes and very thick walls
      [5:04:47 PM] Emeth: I will share parts of this and add the startravelling chart
      [5:04:59 PM] Emeth: As a pentecost message
      [5:05:52 PM] Sirius 17: i saw archways like covered with stone lentils like at stonehenge but attached to buildings
      [5:06:16 PM] Emeth: Yes the stonehenge boulders are the menhirs
      [5:06:23 PM] Sirius 17: everything there glowed in this white bluish light
      [5:07:12 PM] Emeth: Our true emissionary agencies might become a little more remembered from pentecost 2013 onwards Raven
      [5:07:38 PM] Sirius 17: and when my hand touched the buildings they would leave prints in the light
      [5:07:41 PM] Sirius 17: i remember that
      [5:07:48 PM] Emeth: Pretty vivid indeed
      [5:08:00 PM] Sirius 17: that would fade away after a bit when i removed my hand
      [5:08:31 PM] Emeth: Yes this is a geophysical biochemistry apparently
      [5:08:35 PM] Sirius 17: the stone felt alive and all knowing to me
      [5:08:48 PM] Sirius 17: like it knew me
      [5:08:54 PM] Emeth: Nice
      [5:09:15 PM] Emeth: We may have friends and family there which can now become bilocalised
      [5:09:29 PM] Sirius 17: it allowed Allisiam to pass through it, she hung half in and half out of the building at times but i could not
      [5:09:56 PM] Emeth: Waveform extrapositionings
      [5:10:01 PM] Sirius 17: it was like she could walk through t he walls
      [5:10:06 PM] Sirius 17: float whatever
      [5:10:15 PM] Emeth: The starhuman merkabah can
      [5:10:29 PM] Sirius 17: and i so wished i could go inside like her
      [5:10:31 PM] Sirius 17: i tried
      [5:10:44 PM] Sirius 17: but my face pressed against the stone
      [5:10:50 PM] Sirius 17: it was warm
      then cold
      [5:12:09 PM] Sirius 17: then that is when she told me i could not go in yet but in the future i would
      [5:12:35 PM] Emeth: Try to ask her again about the immediate future times, say 2013
      [5:12:36 PM] Sirius 17: i fully expected she would take me back in other dreams and i would go in, this is what i thought
      [5:12:50 PM] Sirius 17: i never got another visit
      [5:13:04 PM] Emeth: Typically; I never saw my 'City of Light' again either
      [5:13:52 PM] Sirius 17: all she says is that this place is 6th dimensional and it is like co-local over the 3-D place near Sirius
      [5:14:08 PM] Sirius 17: it was not in this dimension
      [5:14:28 PM] Emeth: Hmm, I see here a dimensional downgrade of 6D into 5D
      [5:14:40 PM] Emeth: Because of the Gaian Birth
      [5:15:16 PM] Sirius 17: it is merging i feel
      [5:15:49 PM] Sirius 17: it is like a bigger space
      [5:15:58 PM] Sirius 17: over the 3-d space
      [5:16:02 PM] Sirius 17: this is what i feel
      [5:16:09 PM] Emeth: It is indeed and what I meant with downgrade
      [5:16:56 PM] Sirius 17: but she is still making a point to locate it near Sirius
      [5:17:00 PM] Emeth: All 'ascension' must be simulcast as a 'Descension'
      [5:17:01 PM] Sirius 17: in 3-D
      [5:17:05 PM] Sirius 17: whatever that means
      [5:17:15 PM] Emeth: This is what I am doing with this chart
      [5:17:28 PM] Emeth: It is a navigation zoom
      [5:17:57 PM] Emeth: I am doing this hopefully today and will add it to this convo
      [5:18:18 PM] Sirius 17: omg ok, she just showed me an enormous ship in my head
      [5:18:38 PM] Emeth: Ripper the Sirian ET asked me to do this or induced it
      [5:18:44 PM] Sirius 17: its like planet size
      [5:18:49 PM] Sirius 17: huge
      [5:18:50 PM] Emeth: So Allisiam knows Ripper Nommo
      [5:19:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [5:19:29 PM] Emeth: It is pentecost Raven and the 7th week following Resurrection Sunday
      [5:19:57 PM] Emeth: Why I am sharing this testimony - on cosmosdawn.com only
      [5:20:13 PM] Sirius 17: she is showing me this planet sized ship but its a world engulfing the whole 3-D sirian system
      [5:20:25 PM] Sirius 17: its a world inside and outside of the ship
      [5:20:37 PM] Sirius 17: i don't know what i am seeing
      [5:21:04 PM] Sirius 17: like a dounut maybe?
      [5:21:16 PM] Emeth: Yes this system becomes the nexus point or data base center for the Centauri system halfway from it between Gaia-Rahsol and Sirius Alpha
      [5:21:54 PM] Emeth: Dolphins also come into this. I had a clear impression of a dolphin too
      [5:22:40 PM] Emeth: The inside outside is the waveform of the incarnated wavefunction-particular form duality
      [5:22:48 PM] Sirius 17: well i am seeing a ship but it is a world, yes it has water
      [5:23:00 PM] Sirius 17: but it has a world inside the ship too
      [5:23:09 PM] Emeth: The Nommo are cetaceous in a preGaian sense
      [5:23:23 PM] Sirius 17: it looks like a bubble floating in space
      [5:23:27 PM] Sirius 17: clear
      [5:23:34 PM] Sirius 17: but i see rainbow colors around it
      [5:23:52 PM] Emeth: I get it I think
      [5:23:55 PM] Sirius 17: like in the transparency and the world and citys
      [5:24:14 PM] Sirius 17: the inside is smaller then the outside
      [5:24:18 PM] Emeth: The halfway size of this bubble is the radius see and this will point directly to Alpha Centauri
      [5:24:47 PM] Emeth: Then the full bubble as the diameter will reach Gaia in 2013
      [5:25:05 PM] Emeth: I think this is what you are being shown
      [5:25:13 PM] Sirius 17: its huge
      [5:25:38 PM] Emeth: So 9 lightyears across in waveform with subform fractals yes
      [5:25:39 PM] Sirius 17: like my mind is having a hard time seeing the whole thing
      [5:26:09 PM] Emeth: Is this like your vision of May 10th, 2011?
      [5:26:33 PM] Sirius 17: not as intense but yeah
      [5:26:43 PM] Sirius 17: i am getting all these impressions
      [5:26:58 PM] Sirius 17: i can see it in my mind
      [5:27:15 PM] Sirius 17: it feels earthy
      [5:27:32 PM] Sirius 17: the may 10th one felt more metaphysical
      [5:27:45 PM] Sirius 17: if that even makes sense
      [5:28:12 PM] Sirius 17: like i feel the life inside and outside of this ship
      [5:28:22 PM] Sirius 17: i am getting impressions of animals too
      [5:28:22 PM] Emeth: You are more 'experienced' now and used to receiving information in this way
      [5:28:25 PM] Sirius 17: earth animals
      [5:28:41 PM] Sirius 17: and some i have not seen before
      [5:29:18 PM] Sirius 17: the images are like kalidascoping in and out
      [5:29:37 PM] Sirius 17: like i back up and try to take the whole thing in and then zoom in
      [5:30:04 PM] Sirius 17: i see beings, blue tall ones and greys
      [5:30:12 PM] Sirius 17: what are the greys?
      [5:30:19 PM] Sirius 17: these are very tall
      [5:30:37 PM] Sirius 17: flying the ship inside
      [5:31:04 PM] Sirius 17: some with very big heads
      [5:31:23 PM] Sirius 17: i can see their brains, like their heads are transparent
      [5:31:34 PM] Sirius 17: huge eyes
      [5:32:32 PM] Sirius 17: ok i am going to be quiet here for a min
      [5:33:57 PM] Sirius 17: i feel like i am looking through my eyes and this ETs eyes and everything i do he is doing lol
      [5:34:22 PM] Sirius 17: he is smiling, this is really odd
      [5:34:36 PM] Sirius 17: i take a deep breath and then he does
      [5:34:46 PM] Sirius 17: i look at my hand and he looks at his
      [5:34:51 PM] Sirius 17: his has 4 fingers
      [5:34:55 PM] Sirius 17: mine 5
      [5:35:03 PM] Sirius 17: lol
      [5:35:48 PM] Sirius 17: oh i see, he is looking at me through my eyes and i am looking at him
      [5:36:01 PM] Sirius 17: through his
      [5:37:22 PM] Sirius 17: he doesn't breath like us
      [5:37:35 PM] Sirius 17: but he is facinated with how i breath
      [5:38:27 PM] Emeth: All good, I am talking to Adam about Ripper here in synchro
      [5:39:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am just getting all these strange feelings
      [5:39:13 PM] Sirius 17: i feel like i am two different people
      [5:39:26 PM] Emeth: 1 am your time on Sunday?
      [5:39:35 PM] Sirius 17: 12:39
      [5:39:37 PM] Sirius 17: am
      [5:39:58 PM] Emeth: Yes so it is whitsunday for you since this vision began see this?
      [5:40:07 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know
      [5:40:20 PM] Sirius 17: is it the 20th there?
      [5:40:32 PM] Sirius 17: 19th here for me
      [5:40:42 PM] Emeth: No it is now Sunday the 19th, in almost all timezones
      [5:40:58 PM] Emeth: Here it is 5:40 pm on Sunday
      [5:41:08 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes
      [5:41:21 PM] Sirius 17: i am sorry if i am not following to well
      [5:41:41 PM] Sirius 17: i am being inundated with watching myself as if i am some strange alien and watching him the same
      [5:41:59 PM] Emeth: It has a deeper meaning, as we talked about Ripper 'ascending'
      [5:42:35 PM] Emeth: So there should be a corresponding 'descending' see, if there is much to this and this is like your experience
      [5:42:38 PM] Sirius 17: i really feel like i am in some kind of deep communication with him
      [5:42:56 PM] Emeth: Recall the 'Observer ET' of Adam's?
      [5:43:02 PM] Sirius 17: he is pretty much taking over what he wants to see
      [5:43:20 PM] Sirius 17: facinated with my surroundings and this is distracting me some from seeing where he is
      [5:43:32 PM] Sirius 17: i am not used to feeling like i have no control over my body
      [5:43:50 PM] Emeth: Ok imo the 'ascent of Anubis' has allowed the data sharing
      [5:45:00 PM] Emeth: He is so interested and engaged, because RIP allowed the cross referencing for the first time ever between Nommo and Dragon under the auspices of the Logos
      [5:45:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes of course
      [5:47:43 PM] Sirius 17: well it appears this is how they will make contact
      [5:47:57 PM] Sirius 17: gently, its subsiding
      [5:48:29 PM] Sirius 17: the others on the ship noticed i was there that it was not him
      [5:48:45 PM] Sirius 17: and lots of smiling
      [5:49:23 PM] Sirius 17: it was not a full possession but enough that i still feel connected to him
      [5:50:03 PM] Sirius 17: for a minute there it was like ok you know when you look in a mirror at your image and you stroke your chin and your image does the same thing?
      [5:50:16 PM] Sirius 17: it was like this but we anticipated each other
      [5:50:34 PM] Sirius 17: and it was sort of comical because we both smiled when we realised it
      [5:50:58 PM] Emeth: The yangness of Allisiam?
      [5:51:04 PM] Emeth: Cephas?
      [5:51:30 PM] Sirius 17: i am not sure but he definately knew me
      [5:51:56 PM] Emeth: Could be the ancestors getting to know their physicalised descendents again.
      [5:52:04 PM] Sirius 17: he is very tall and very ET
      [5:52:09 PM] Sirius 17: skinny
      [5:52:28 PM] Emeth: Yes I know that Ripper and many dogs now will assume cosmic ET IDs
      [5:52:44 PM] Emeth: And not reincarnate as terrestrial animals
      [5:53:38 PM] Emeth: And cetaceans are related to the animal kingdoms of seals and bears and dogs and cats (miacis)
      [5:53:49 PM] Sirius 17: it could of been ripper this ET, i got impressions of Ripper there
      [5:54:04 PM] Emeth: Or Adam's Watcher
      [5:54:18 PM] Emeth: Did he feel ancient to you?
      [5:55:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes but youthful spirited
      [5:55:25 PM] Sirius 17: he has a sense of humor and found it comic too
      [5:55:28 PM] Emeth: Adam's 'contact' was very very old
      [5:55:56 PM] Sirius 17: he was flying this ship at the same time
      [5:56:08 PM] Sirius 17: and i got the impression he was an elder yes
      [5:56:12 PM] Emeth: And we knew for a long time, that Ripper was dolphin aka Nommo related due to his behaviour with water
      [5:56:26 PM] Emeth: This ship was it small?
      [5:56:37 PM] Sirius 17: no it was this same ship i told you
      [5:56:38 PM] Sirius 17: huge
      [5:56:59 PM] Emeth: Adam's watcher ship was a small vessel, like a scout
      [5:57:44 PM] Emeth: But this was before the 'starbubble' became manifest of course
      [5:58:07 PM] Emeth: It appears to me, that this 'starbubble' is pentecostally cosmic
      [5:58:28 PM] Sirius 17: sorry James just came home i am not ignoring you
      [5:58:40 PM] Emeth: I should work on this starchart Raven
      [5:58:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont know dear, it was huge
      [5:58:56 PM] Emeth: So I say good night
      [5:59:12 PM] Sirius 17: ok i will let you go
      [5:59:25 PM] Sirius 17: i still feel rather odd
      [5:59:26 PM] Emeth: You will get more on this for sure in the coming days
      [5:59:53 PM] Emeth: You are templating and witnessing the beginnings of something again
      [6:00:35 PM] Emeth: This is part of the 'Contact' we all are waiting for Raven
      [6:00:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is what he said
      [6:00:58 PM] Emeth: It is no Nibiruan and Annunakian Nabs
      [6:01:09 PM] Emeth: What did he say?
      [6:01:18 PM] Sirius 17: well he didn't say it, i felt it in my head
      [6:01:46 PM] Emeth: Of course I know that all 'channelings are receiver mindfiltered' to become 'telepathic'
      [6:02:39 PM] Emeth: It is your own vocabulary, which is 'cosmo translated' by the Logos

      [6:03:16 PM] Sirius 17: i understood it as such, that this is how contact will be
      [6:03:40 PM] Sirius 17: [5:45 PM] Sirius 17:
      <<< yes of course
      well it appears this is how they will make contact
      gently, its subsiding
      [6:04:10 PM] Emeth: Yes and as is natural and logical
      [6:04:24 PM] Sirius 17: i mean i had full awareness of my body ok
      [6:04:29 PM] Sirius 17: and a lot of awareness of his
      [6:04:39 PM] Emeth: Your body became the starbubble Raven
      [6:04:50 PM] Sirius 17: i still feel he is looking, observing
      [6:05:08 PM] Emeth: It was an encompassment of you as Raven by Allisiam and hers
      [6:05:33 PM] Emeth: He would not disappear now, though remain unseen at times
      [6:05:39 PM] Sirius 17: but why did they look like tall grey like beings?
      [6:05:57 PM] Sirius 17: some were just indescribable
      [6:06:06 PM] Emeth: This was Adam's too, but not really grey
      [6:06:16 PM] Emeth: It is a universal template merkabah Raven
      [6:06:28 PM] Emeth: It is not some special race
      [6:06:29 PM] Sirius 17: was he tall? no its was more like a flesh color but with grey undertones
      [6:06:44 PM] Emeth: It is like a hive blueprint
      [6:07:36 PM] Sirius 17: and huge almond shaped eyes, i could see his brain inside his head was like jelly fish like, transparent like that and i could see his fluids and brain and lights in there.
      [6:07:49 PM] Emeth: You can call it robotic or 'in between' bodyform, itself subject to assimilation, once contact has been made and the Gaian 'garden' can be accessed by them
      [6:08:10 PM] Emeth: Then their basic merkabahs will become enhanced BY and through the fauna and flora here
      [6:08:23 PM] Emeth: Yes
      [6:08:26 PM] Sirius 17: did what he saw have 4 fingers?
      [6:08:41 PM] Emeth: I dont think he looked or noticed
      [6:08:44 PM] Sirius 17: i looked down and saw his 4 fingers, then he looked at my 5
      [6:08:53 PM] Sirius 17: and we smiled at the same time
      [6:09:11 PM] Sirius 17: because it was just like a recognition of differences you know
      [6:09:17 PM] Emeth: The Nabs notions of greys and ETs is like an approximation to the real thing
      [6:09:44 PM] Sirius 17: and then he became facinated with my breathing and i noticed he was not breathing
      [6:09:45 PM] Emeth: Their experiences are like subplots of a greater agenda
      [6:10:29 PM] Emeth: This was my last experience with Ripper, his breathing I checked and watched on May 18th
      [6:10:30 PM] Sirius 17: i think he was just as facinated as i was
      [6:10:35 PM] Sirius 17: surprised almost
      [6:11:08 PM] Emeth: It feels to me the ETs are looking for their new merkabahs now, just as we do
      [6:11:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [6:11:22 PM] Sirius 17: they have found us
      [6:11:37 PM] Sirius 17: they know where we are
      [6:11:47 PM] Sirius 17: this was also another impression i got
      [6:12:44 PM] Sirius 17: god Applesauce just had another strange episode of breathing
      [6:12:49 PM] Emeth: This is just what I said before about the navigation of star ETs as human familiars
      [6:13:08 PM] Sirius 17: it only lasted about 10 seconds but she did this the other night and it scared me, she could not catch her breath
      [6:13:27 PM] Emeth: And you recall my post on 'First Sirian Contact' of a few weeks ago?
      [6:13:32 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [6:13:44 PM] Emeth: It is all interwoven
      [6:14:08 PM] Emeth: 'They know where we are!' is the crux of the matter here
      [6:14:25 PM] Emeth: And it is not nabs or politics or the white house or the dark house
      [6:14:48 PM] Sirius 17: and Adam had this experience tonight too?
      [6:15:16 PM] Emeth: No, he saw the ET gray brainy observer in his little scoutcraft some time ago
      [6:15:19 PM] Sirius 17: did he feel contacted?
      [6:15:42 PM] Emeth: David had the dream of Anubis watching the sarcophagus, instead of being within it
      [6:15:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes this all fits
      [6:16:02 PM] Emeth: Yes
      [6:16:04 PM] Sirius 17: we are all being contacted
      [6:16:08 PM] Sirius 17: its not just me
      [6:16:13 PM] Sirius 17: and you
      [6:16:40 PM] Emeth: Of course, but the humans will fail to understand it and prefer their own ideas about reality and truth
      [6:16:57 PM] Sirius 17: Ripper is watching adam
      [6:17:07 PM] Sirius 17: like i feel he is right there
      [6:17:10 PM] Emeth: I asked him too yes
      [6:17:33 PM] Sirius 17: well i just got a strong impression
      [6:17:39 PM] Emeth: But recall my selfdoubt about hearing Ripper as an ET?
      [6:17:50 PM] Sirius 17: and he was not a dog, but had a humanoid form
      [6:17:52 PM] Emeth: Your vision has alleviated this self questioning
      [6:18:38 PM] Emeth: Humanoid yes, I saw a greyness and not tall but compact
      [6:19:08 PM] Emeth: This was in my vague impressions of the oval stones
      [6:19:09 PM] Sirius 17: i saw Anubis, human body with dog head and ears
      [6:19:30 PM] Emeth: Nah I did not see Egyptian symbols at all, except the menhirs
      [6:19:53 PM] Sirius 17: well this could be my own assocation with him because he did have anubis ears
      [6:20:05 PM] Sirius 17: that one shot of him on your bed
      [6:20:18 PM] Sirius 17: he doesnt look like a dog in that pic
      [6:20:19 PM] Emeth: He looked for all purposes like Anubis, including his white 'collar' as coat
      [6:20:41 PM] Emeth: I add the pics to this message as well
      [6:21:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will look at it later i am going to go lay down for a while hon
      [6:21:14 PM] Sirius 17: i need to just sit with this feeling
      [6:21:24 PM] Sirius 17: i still feel disassociated some
      [6:21:50 PM] Sirius 17: maybe i will get more impressions
      [6:22:27 PM] Sirius 17: take care Tony and Buenas Noches
      [6:22:34 PM] Emeth: Gracias dear
      [6:22:38 PM] Sirius 17: emoticon-00152-heart. emoticon-00155-flower. emoticon-00152-heart.


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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 22nd 2013

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    There seems to be SOME truth to this Nabs presentation (below). But I have not examined this in depth yet. The 'picture' of those 'intelligent greys' is similar to what I intuited about the 'Sirian Nommo'. I reserve further commentary until I actually analysed this further.
    This video is a lengthy Nabs talk and I am not yet at the commentary of Jim Sparks. It starts at the 38 minute marker. I did a number of checks however and my impression is, that Jim Sparks is a typical 'Nabs abductee', who has filtered a mainly valid psychosomatic experience with his rather 'fearful' human mindedness. This can be ascertained by the commentary of Carol of Moa forum; who shared this video on a thread there.
    http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t63-greys-contactee-jim-sparks-interview-by-paola-harris#92579
    I could not yet find any real 'malicious or human threatening alien agenda' and so my present conclusion is to consider the Jim Sparks testimony as a valid indicator as to what the 'ET agenda' implies and especially as in their 'Keeper-Gardener' role emphasized.
    I have little time for the interviewers like Paola Harris or George Noory, who imo ask mostly irrelevant and human centred personal questions; instead of analysing and investigating the ET-Ufo phenomena.
    Having listened to the video, Jim Sparks has 'evolved' mentally to accept a deeper and less fearful ET agenda and much of what is addressed from the 38minute marker onwards, is 'in alliance' with the Thuban cosmology.
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    [​IMG] GREYS ~ CONTACTEE JIM SPARKS INTERVIEW BY PAOLA HARRIS

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    Jim Sparks and Paola Harris interview “Jim Sparks” on Jerry Pippin Show at Laughlin 2007​


    CLICK HERE for the audio interview. http://www.jerrypippin.com/UFO_Files_2007_..._day.htm#Sparks

    Jerry: Jim, why don’t you start by filling us in on what was happening before you wrote the book, and when did it start?

    Jim: It started for me in 1988. Prior to that, as far as I was concerned, I had no inkling that abductions took place, particularly in the tens or hundreds of thousands. Also prior to 1988, I had a mind that thought it was possible that there were extraterrestrial beings, but wasn’t looking for any kind of contact.

    Paola: What was the first event, and how did it come about?

    Jim: It was dreamlike. I had what I thought was a recurring dream that some things were coming into my room, escorting me off the bed, walking me down the hallway into the guest room. We had a floor-level window in the guest room at that time, and I would literally walk out through the window with whatever these things were. My peripheral vision in these dreams was shot, so I couldn’t really see them. They took me out, walked me across the lawn, to the woods, then they’d bring me back the same way and put me back to bed, and that just kept happening several times a week for a few months. One evening, that dream was more vivid, meaning that I became conscious during parts of that episode. I was scared when I walked through the window. When I got up the next day I went to the guest room and was shocked to see the print of the heel of my foot on the lawn, and of my toes and the ball of my foot on the carpet. Our lawn had thousands of little flowers that I call honeysuckle flowers in it, that would stick to your feet when you walked on them. Embedded in the heel print was the flowers from the lawn, and the imprint on the carpet also had flowers in it – on the inside of the glass, with drapes and blinds and everything. There were also other little prints near mine, smaller and not as clear as my own footprints, like animal feet or paws.

    Paola: Were you married at the time? Was anyone else in the house, and did they see this?

    Jim: I was married at the time, but my wife was also part of the abduction experience. One thing was very strong: she was not to have conscious recall, I was not to be able to interact with her in this or any abduction that followed, and I really learned the hard way, but I learned quickly. You know how when you’re married to someone, you know their facial expressions, you know their responses to things. Any time I brought this subject up she would always have this programmed response. I’d hold her by the shoulders and look straight into her eyes and say, “Theresa, what do you think about this?” Her facial expression was one that I’m not familiar with and she would respond in some silly way, by saying “I don’t know what you’re talking about.” And if I probed any further and she started to remember it, she would respond violently. So I learned that whatever their agenda was for her, she was not to interact with me about it.

    Jerry: What would you try to tell her? Would you try to discuss their appearance?

    Jim: Well, I would see her on board from time to time, never for long, but I’d get glimpses of her and would think, “oh my god, that’s my wife.” And I know that occasionally she would see me. There was one time when we were in the living room and I had her gently by the shoulders and she was rambling on with this nonsense that wasn’t even her words, and I said “Theresa, come on. Come on.” She said, “Jim, I know what you’re talking about, but we’re not allowed to talk about it.” So I finally got a real, genuine response from her. Another thing she had said during the course of that conversation, which by the way I’ve never shared with anyone before, so you’re getting a good interview here ~

    Paola: I’m curious because when you have someone in the house verifying that this happened to you, a wife or children, it really helps other people who also have families. And would you please tell us what her purpose was, why they took her?

    Jim: I’m sure I’ve never answered this before, and I didn’t put this in the book, so this is new information coming out. Because I just stay away from that thing with her, and I always have. We’re divorced now, but we’re very close, and if I just touch on that thing she sort of laughs, but she still won’t answer it.

    Jerry: Not to get personal, but is this part of the reason you divorced?

    Jim: It played a big part in it. There were other reasons as well. Nonetheless, she said, “I know we’re not supposed to talk about it.” And I said, “What are they, Theresa?” And she said, and I didn’t like these words, “They’re my helpers from heaven.” You have to understand that she was a deeply religious person, so anything other than god or angels is bad, and that was her interpretation of them. Then she went into a violent rage, saying we’re not supposed to talk about it, and you’re crazy, and she’d reverse the whole thing. Her response was so awful from that point on that I learned not to get into it.

    Jerry: If she felt they were helpers from heaven, who did you think they were?

    Jim: In the early months, at first I had no clue whatsoever. As things progressed, I learned that these guys use screen images. They’ll do whatever it takes to subdue and handle human beings with the least resistance. Their minds can project images that lead you to believe it’s something that you feel comfortable with, or uncomfortable with. If you’re a very religious person, they’ll come across with the message that they’re angels from god and that they’re here to help you, so please lie on this gurney. If you’re into that, that’s what you’re thinking and you’ll just cooperate. If you’re very much afraid of demonic forces, they’ll do a flip and tell you that the devil will hurt you if you don’t listen to us. There was a point when they came on to me with the religious thing, and I said, “yeah right. God has angels that fly around in UFOs.” And they stopped that. Then the next ploy, because I was always angry and I wasn’t having any of it – I knew it was all technology, I just didn’t know what they were. So they tried telling me they were demonic, they’re evil, they’ll hurt me if I don’t cooperate. And I said, right, well turn me loose and I’ll squeeze your fat little – and I couldn’t do that to the devil, could I? They couldn’t retaliate to that kind of tortured logic. Now, I know that with abductees, they try all kinds of different things to get you to cooperate, and then they primarily take the memory away before you go back. But in my case, I caught on to those games they played early on, I resisted them early on, and so they stopped playing. The rest of it was what they really were.

    Jerry: And what is that?

    Jim: Ninety to ninety-five percent of my interaction with them has been with the greys. They’re not forthcoming.

    Paola: Are they little robotic beings, or do they look more like cloned beings?

    Jim: There are two types. There’s what I call the true aliens, and then there are the worker beings. The worker beings, in my experience, is what is encountered by most abductees, about ninety percent, and they think these are aliens, for good reason. They’re three to three and a half feet tall, their heads are very big, they do have the almond-shaped eyes, but I know them to be half biological and half robotic. They are created beings just for that work. I’ve seen them with reptilians, carrying on tasks, I’ve seen them with the greys, carrying on tasks, and on very rare occasions, only a couple of times over nineteen years, I’ve seen them with something that looks humanoid, dressed in robes. I know they’re created worker beings. The greys are about a foot taller, their eyes are much bigger than ours but certainly not the big almond-shaped eyes that people describe. Also, their skin is leathery and you can see wrinkles, and you can see individuality in them while the worker beings all look exactly alike.

    Paola: Did they ever give you a name?

    Jim: Twice. I almost called the book “Star People.” The reason was, during the first six years which were very painful and traumatic, I always found myself in the same place, which was on board this craft, in the same room, sitting on this bench, paralyzed. In front of me was a table with a screen on it, a teaching machine. It could interact with you using artificial intelligence. What was eerie about this machine is that you could sense living tissue or living thoughts. These guys don’t have the same social outlook as we do. How many thousands of years have they gone on without worrying whether something is biological or robotic, they’re past all that. But you could always sense that bit of life in the machine, and in the table. I got over all that discomfort as the years progressed. Now one thing about their nature is that they don’t like questions, absolutely can’t stand questions. Why? Because it’s always the same thing. Every time they encounter humans, we’re going to say, “Who are you? Where are you from? Why are you here? What’s it like?” We can’t help ourselves. So what I’ve learned over the years is, don’t ask, they’ll tell you when they’re ready. But in those early years there were tasks they wanted me to perform, experiments that I had to be a part of, this language thing where I was converting our letters into symbols, and I was highly resistant to anything on their agenda. I fought them tooth and nail, any way I could mess them up I always did. However, it was based on reward and punishment.

    Jerry: Like the way we treat animals, or prisoners.

    Jim: Right. Now, there was one session where I had done particularly well and cooperated particularly well, I just wanted to get out of there. They would give rewards, like playing with a piece of equipment, or having one question answered. You get corny answers, but it’s the truth. So one of my questions was, “Who are you people, where are you from?” The answer was “We’re star people.” I got angry. I thought, I’m people, you’re not people. But Star People meant they were from the stars. I was going to name the book Star People, because that’s what they said they were. But then I had an experience several years later, just before the book came out, which was witnessed by several other people as well. It’s always nice when other people are able to verify your experiences. They referred to themselves as the Keepers, and they are here to take their people home to a better place.

    Jerry: They consider us their people?

    Jim: Yeah. And not that I’m agreeing with this and that I embrace alien culture, but things are starting to come out in terms of the environmental issues… When they said the Keepers, I was driving on a highway between Naples, FL and Fort Myers Beach when a craft appeared. The Keepers’ crafts look like diamonds or like pyramids, one upside down on top of the other, and they change color, they reflect light or they can be a whitewash white. I associate that with the Keepers. As I was driving down the highway it looked like a sailboat sailing across the road. There’s this sail going across the road and it’s the top of a craft, and the bottom is going through the dirt as if it’s not even there. Most people who saw that would just think it’s a sailboat and it wouldn’t even register, but that’s how they do things. At that point they wanted me to see what they were and it sailed through the street, and it rose up at a forty-five degree angle and appeared as a craft. What was transmitted to me telepathically, and what I wrote, was that the keepers are here to take their people home to a better place. Not to a better world, which was what I expected them to say, but to a better place. I saw them collecting seeds from every plant, every animal, humans, everything and you can see it in this craft. That was ten years ago. So Star People was the first name they used, then they changed to the Keepers, and I thought that was more appropriate so that’s what I used for the book title.

    Paola: So they’re predicting some problems down the road. Did they give you any details?

    Jim: It was six years of being paralyzed for me, on board, in the same room, and then I took part in a mass abduction where I was free for the first time to move around. It was unique in many ways. I wasn’t paralyzed, I was calming people, it was a mass abduction, and I got to see what they were doing on a mass agenda, on a global basis. They were picking up people all over the globe and taking then to one destination, in this case a clearing in the woods, and then other crafts came and took them onto a bigger ship to get an environmental lesson. Primarily the condition of what the planet was like, and then what the planet is like, and saying we’re killing our planet. For myself personally soon after that what I saw was many hundreds of humans being indoctrinated into this understanding. Then it was given to me to take responsibility for the rain forests. I formed a foundation called Your Earth, it is not yet active. What I’ve learned from all this is timing. No matter how bad I may want to do something, the timing has to be on their agenda and then it works. If not, you’re just wrestling against it and nothing happens. Now things are starting to go because they said to go in this direction.

    Paola: Is that why you wrote the book and why you’re talking right now, because the time is right and things are happening?

    Jim: Yes.

    Paola: Because there are a lot of things going on right now, your book, a lot of people speaking, the O’Hare sighting, the sightings in London… so whatever they predicted, is it close at hand?

    Jim: Environmentally, yes, and that made me sad. I’m seeing things that I hadn’t seen before concerning global awareness, and commitments are starting to be made. The point is that what bothered me for many years, and what frustrated me because I couldn’t do anything about it, was that I had a visitation—I used to get pulled out of my living room or my bedroom in a horrific, traumatic way. And the transport is not easy on your body.

    Jerry: What does it feel like?

    Jim: Well, there’s the hard way and the easy way.

    Jerry: Do you get a choice?

    Jim: It depends on what they’re doing. If the crafts are on the ground, and they come to escort you out of your home, they create an energy field that renders invisibility and the ability to walk through walls. They walk with you, holding your arms as you walk through a wall or window, and that’s the easy way. The hard way is when the crafts are in flight and they pull you. The first sensation of any knowledge that something is about to happen is this low rpm whirling sound, that gets faster and faster, and then this sensation in the pit of your stomach that something is rising up to your chest. This is scary. It’s like a beam of energy. You know that they’re flying by, so this is something they’re focusing on you that will transport matter. When it reaches your chest, your heart races and adrenaline drops into your system. Then the sensation of extreme acceleration, but instead of going up, you feel like you‘re being pulled down. Now while you’re hearing this whirling sound, your heart is racing, you’re getting this acceleration, and all you can do is scream inside your head, because you can’t open your mouth, and you’re just thinking, “I don’t want to die!” It always feels like it’s going to kill you. And then you black out. When you come to, you’re nauseous, you’re sick, but you’re at point B. It’s happened so many times I’ve lost count. I know I always live.

    Jerry: Now when they take you up into the moving ship, is that like a tractor beam?

    Jim: Well, I don’t know, because when I’m in it I can’t see it. So the interaction has evolved tremendously in the last thirteen years relative to the first six. Interaction is now almost on human terms, where I know where to go, and I physically drive myself there and we have a meeting. There was one being I had met up with who expressed that we had at that time four or five years to stop the destruction of the rain forests and still be able to return it to what it was. That deadline has passed, but it is still encouraging in that we can still save it, but we can’t bring back all that we’ve lost.

    Jerry: That’s kind of an encouraging thought. Now I’m interested in this craft. So you’ve got hundreds of people up there, what, standing around in a gymnasium?

    Jim: Things seem to expand or contract as needed.

    Jerry: So it’s been nineteen years of incredible experiences. Paola Harris is with us, and you’ve traveled the world, Paola, this is probably the most detailed thing we’ve heard.

    Paola: Well, it’s wonderful because he can recall it, it’s not a hypnotic recall, and also he’s been able to reason out why they took him and what their agenda is, which many contactees still don’t know the reason. What he did yesterday in his presentation was show a documentary that had a lot of famous people, John Mack, Linda Howe… It had a lot of famous researchers in it, but this documentary was made by a person who was involved in the mass abduction. So I was asking myself the whole time, was this programmed by the Keepers for us to see, was that why the documentary was made? Because the man who was interviewing him was in the mass abduction.

    Jim: Well, to answer directly and then expound on it, yes, it was. That whole first experience of not being paralyzed, had an elation about it. Because I was privy to the fact that there was a plan by these guys, the environmental thing. During this mass abduction I could see all the intricate workings of it, how they bring the people on board, how they hook them up, how they put them on this monitor thing. I hear abductees say that they’re environmentally inclined after their abduction but they don’t know why. I know why, because I see what they put them through. There was one individual that I was paying a lot of personal attention to during that last abduction that lasted a couple of hours, and then I got to see that person in real life here. Maybe I should talk about that a bit.

    I got pulled, I found myself in a clearing in the woods. This was the first time I had ever not been on board, and I was able to move around. I would say that the clearing was about a hundred yards, like the size of a football field. I was standing up, and below me were people piled on the ground, about fifteen of them, mostly nude, some in their nightclothes. Obviously they’d been in bed when they were pulled, and they were all paralyzed. There was one guy standing to my right, and he was fully dressed in a short sleeved shirt, slacks, brown leather shoes. He kept repeating, zombie-like, “I was driving my car, I was driving my car.” There was a woman on the ground to my left. She was in her nightclothes, in the fetal position, just rocking back and forth, horrified. And then there was a grey standing in this group. To the left was another pile of people and one grey, and to the left of them was another pile of people and one grey. So this was a mass abduction and they were gathering people at this point for the other ships to come and get them. How they got there I’m not sure, but I’m guessing they got pulled the hard way judging by the state they were in. We saw three balls of light come up over the horizon to the left, and one came over my group of people, another came over the second group, beautifully synchronized, and then the third one came over the other group of people. It was an overcast night, so they just looked like balls of light. But as they came down, I was able to see, for the first time, the outside of a ship. I was able to move, I could see the outside. Prior to that ship descending, when I was standing there and the girl was rocking back and forth in a traumatized state, the grey that was next to me said, “Calm her.” And I thought to myself, wow, man, I’ve got a job? I’m actually participating?

    Jerry: Yeah, you’ve graduated.

    Jim: So I’m not claiming to embrace alien culture, but it’s like the Helsinki Syndrome. You’re a trustee and prisoner now. But it’s better than being in a corner in isolation, and I can learn more now. So I put my hand on her shoulder and said, “It’s okay, you’re going to be fine, you’re going to get through this.” I said, “They’re going to take you into this room and they’re going to teach you this alphabet,” and the alien said, “You’re telling her too much. Just calm her.” So I said, “It’s okay, you’re going to be fine.” The guy kept complaining he was nauseous, he wanted to throw up, he didn’t know where he was, so I kept talking to him, trying to calm him. I was very close to him, his face was in my face, I was holding his arm, telling him he was going to be fine.

    When the ships descended, it didn’t look like I expected. I thought it would be streamlined and stealthy-looking, but the bottom of it was like an egg. It was white, with windows all the way around it, and you could see activity in all the windows, and it was spherical over the top. A light came down over our group of people, a bright, bright white light with a hue of blue. I was looking up at that light, and the one on our left descended and that light came on. I stepped out in front of the crowd and I had my hands up in the air, and I said, “They’re beautiful! They’re beautiful!” And then I blacked out.

    When I came to, I was in a corridor, with all the people who had been on the ground. I was told to lead them. I led them into a room that was about the size of a gymnasium or a basketball court. There was all kinds of activity all the way to the back walls, and I could see humans and aliens working together, just a buzz of activity. I was told to seat them. There were rows and rows of benches like workstations with these monitors. At that time I didn’t know anything about computer monitors, I didn’t know what they looked like. But these monitors were different from computer monitors. So I started seating people, and I came up to this guy I’d been working with before, who was so nervous and upset.

    After I seated him I got curious and started looking around. They didn’t want me to do that, and I blacked out. When I came to, I was seated in front of my screen, and everyone else in the room was seated in front of their own, and there were a few hundred more besides my original group. When the monitors lit up, they all lit up at the same time, and they were somehow hooked up to us as well. I think this explains scoop marks somewhat, because these were somehow connected to us, right into the flesh either of the arm or the calf of the leg, and I think it was to transmit emotional responses to what was on the screen.

    On the monitors came the first scene, a pristine, gorgeous sea, filled with fish, and a beautiful blue sky. The normal reaction would be, oh that’s pretty. But with this, it absolutely took your breath away. We were all totally mesmerized. And it went on, scene after scene, and you could tell that these pictures were taken millions of years ago, before humans began to contaminate the planet. And then gradually the pictures changed, it became uglier and more polluted, the water became brown, and you could hear a voice saying, “You’re killing your planet. Your planet is dying. You’re killing your planet. Your planet is dying.”

    Jerry: Was this like an announcer’s voice?

    Jim: It was like an announcer for everybody.

    Paola: Was it a human voice, or a robotic voice?

    Jim: You hear in your head, a voice that sounds almost like your own. There’s no mistaking it, it’s loud and clear.

    Jerry: Did it get to the end? Did it show a dead planet?

    Jim: It showed everything, from what it was and what it is, and what it can be and what it will be. Now during the bad scenes, remember that they’re pumping something into us to make it more intense, and we’re all just falling apart and crying at what we see. They take away the memory of the lesson, but they leave with us the emotion and the trauma. The good and the dark parts of the thing are retained when they come back. So they’re not remembering, gee, I was sleeping and then I was lying in this pile and then this ship came and beamed me up. They’re not remembering that, but they’re remembering the essence of the message. It’s emotionally powerful ~ and it’s intellectually powerful. So it doesn’t surprise me when I hear people saying they believe they’re on a mission for the earth’s survival.

    Paola: But then you had the documentary. Did you see this guy again? Did you walk down the street and say hi, I saw you, you’re supposed to make a documentary?

    Jim: No, I had to bite my tongue to stop myself from talking to him. I saw him several months after this experience. I was standing outside a conference in Tampa, and he came along with this huge camera on his shoulder. He’d been contracted to film the conference. He had no interest in UFOs, in aliens, or in the environment, and I saw him and thought Oh my god, it’s that guy! He walked by me, but then he stopped short, and he turned around and walked up to me, and we started to talk. He told me he’d been filming the conference, and I wanted to say, don’t you know who I am? I know who you are. But I didn’t, I bit my tongue. And then he said to me, why are you here? I said that I’d had some experiences that had to do with the ET thing. He started asking me questions about the phenomena, and I could see the expression on his face change from not caring to “this is me!”

    Jerry: We often talk about what the aliens look like, but I’d like to know what some of these people look like. You’re a slim guy, in good shape. Were all these other people in good shape as well?

    Jim: No, they were all kinds.

    Jerry: So how come you remember all of this, Jim? And what did you do for a living?

    Jim: I’ve always been a very straightforward person. I was buying raw land and dividing it into home sites, though even then I was careful to protect the trees on the property.

    Jerry: So you always had this environmental message. Maybe you were selected because you already leaned that way. So how did you and this man get together to make the documentary?

    Jim: Well, his face changed and I saw him become interested when I started talking about my experiences and the fact that it was related to the rain forests, and he said, I don’t really have an interest in this subject, but maybe we should put something together on this. Would you be interested in working on this with me? So we kept contact, and I went into more detail, and then I sent him the manuscript I was working on at the time. We hadn’t discussed the whole story at that time, but when he read the manuscript, he was enthralled.

    I went to his house to visit him and his girlfriend, and he was abducted while I was there. And after that experience, more memories started to come back to him. He remembered the monitors, the earth scenes, the whole thing, and finally I said, Okay Doug, let me tell you who you are. I had had a sketch artist work with me years before, and I had described that gentleman to my right, and she captured him. I showed him the picture, and he got very excited. His name is Doug Redante (sp?) He went through some tough financial times, like we all do, but now he has his own aircraft. And when that tsunami came through, he got together with this German guy who had a water purification system, and he invested his own money in this, and they flew these water purifiers over there.

    Now he’s always said, it’s not good enough for sale, it’s just for education, so we’ve tried to move it for educational purposes but we’ve never sold it.

    Jerry: Do you think the Keepers are proud of you?

    Jim: I’ve learned that talking about things ahead of time, when things are out of sync, it does more to mess it up than it does to help the situation. So I try not to talk about things when I don’t feel it’s the right time. Now when you talk about pride, that’s an emotion, and the greys don’t have emotion. There’s no ego there. The reptilian beings, who get the bad rap for everything in my experience, they’re the good guys. There’s emotion there, they talk to you, they feel, they’re more caring, they’re intelligent like the greys are. There may be other races that are just rotten, terrible people, because I’ve heard awful stories about women being raped and so on, but I think there are many different races.

    Paola: They never told you their name for themselves? We call them reptilians, but I’m sure they don’t call themselves that.

    Jim: I’m so non-selfish when I’m around these guys, I don’t ask them questions like this. I ask them to do simple little things, like before we part, can you wave? Here I have access to these beings from elsewhere in the universe, with all this technology and all this knowledge ~ and all I ask for is a wave when they leave.

    Jerry: Have you built up any relationships with them?

    Jim: When I stay tight-lipped about some things, it’s because I’m in a sensitive area. Interaction will take place that I know I shouldn’t talk about yet. I’ll wait a few months and then talk about it, because for one thing, the trail is now cold. There are people who want to track me. I also wait because I see things in a different perspective, I get the full picture as each interaction takes place. I know certain things now. I know for a fact that time travel is not just possible, it’s done. It’s routine. I know that the biggest problem is not just the environment, it’s our own longevity. The problem we have as a species is that we don’t live long enough. About the time good people start to figure things out, we die. And that sets us up to constantly make the same mistakes over and over. You can see it with our children, when you try to teach them about your life experiences, you know they’ll take part of what you say and they’ll make their own mistakes anyway.

    Paola: So are they changing this thing about the life expectancy?

    Jim: They want to see us do it. They know we can do it.

    Jerry: Like the army slogan, “Be all you can be.” But we’re not there yet.

    Jim: We will be. Stop dying, is the message.

    Jerry: We can control our own longevity?

    Jim: The resources are here. The technology is here. The money is here. It couldn’t be a better time to change things. Say you’re a very good person, and you live five hundred years longer.

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    Jim Sparks has become well-known as one of the few multiple abductees who has, in his own words, 95% recall of all his experiences. Having been abducted many hundreds of times, at first he rebelled and totally refused to co-operate with the aliens who would repeatedly take him to their craft at night. He attributes his very complete memories of his experiences to his rage, and outrage, about the continued violations.

    As the years passed, and Jim and his captors battled with one another, Jim gradually seemed to become trusted by the aliens - who he calls The Keepers - to assist them in increasingly significant ways. In turn, Jim feels he understands better now what their agenda and modus operandi might be. The story he tells on camera is spellbinding, and culminates in a message which we might ignore at our peril: that the Earth is in danger, and that while there may be a new dawn ahead of the human race, there might be some difficult times ahead before we get there.


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    Coast To Coast AM - May 20 2013 Evolution of an Abductee

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    Jim Sparks, an abductee with 95 percent conscious recall of his experiences talks about how over the years he went from resistor to cooperator with the alien beings who abducted him. His interactions were with two different types of 'grey' aliens, he said-- short "worker bees" who were half-robotic, and taller (4 to 5 ft. tall) biological beings with large heads and eyes, and skinny necks, torsos, and arms. They communicate via telepathy, and the taller beings are able to think 10-100 times faster than humans, as well as hold hundreds of thoughts in their mind at the same time, he detailed. Their advanced scientific abilities (such as being able to move through walls) can seem like to magic to us, and they only can be seen when they want us to see them, he continued.

    The beings have unfettered access to our minds-- i.e. we have no private thoughts from them, and that is extremely intimidating, and hard to be around, he commented. However, over time, he eventually learned to adapt to being around them, and his fears and discomfort lessened. He's convinced that the aliens have conquered death, though they can be killed. Intriguingly, Sparks revealed they have the ability to time travel. He had a small scale experience of it himself, when he was brought back after an abduction and the clock showed a time that was earlier than when he was taken. In the first years of his abductions, Sparks reported that he was threatened by odd government agents, telling him to keep quiet about his experiences.

    The aliens have their own agenda which deals with concerns over the creatures they seeded on our planet (including humans), Sparks noted, adding that various agreements humanity made with them have all been broken (by us) over time. The aliens have suggested "amnesty" be offered to those who have deliberately kept their presence secret from the public, so the truth can come out, he said. Their hybrid program, he explained, was successful in creating human beings that are more intelligent, environmentally sensitive, and telepathic, and they could potentially populate the planet, if something happened to us.



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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 23rd 2013

    Conversations on the World Logos from the 2013 Pentecost, May 19th - May 20th, 2013

    [1:15:23 PM- Thursday, May 23rd, 2013 +10UCT]

    Kali 666:

    "The Sagittarius Lunar Eclipse on May 24- 25 is one of the most powerful Full Moons of 2013. The Sagittarius Lunar Eclipse is the third of three eclipses in a row. This eclipse also involves a SuperMoon, when the Moon is as close as it ever gets to the Earth, and it’s in a straight alignment with the Sun and Earth. The SuperMoon makes this Lunar Eclipse extra potent. Also important to note, this is a North Node eclipse, which is associated with Jupiter (ruler of Sagittarius), the bringer of expansion and opportunities.
    This Full Moon energy can bring up old feelings and memories dealing with the experience of being taught to separate and categorize people, things and events without really knowing ourselves what that thing was. This eclipse on the axis of the lower mind and the higher Mind focuses our attention on how we think and what we believe. The cosmic gift of this eclipse is that the higher Mind offers us an opportunity to release outworn ideas and beliefs that no longer serve our life. It's time to replace the old categories of knowledge with new ideas and new perceptions based on our awakened consciousness.

    Sagittarius empowers you stay on your path. Even when the road twists and turns, you can feel vibrant, healthy, and strong. Keep your mind engaged and focused on inspired action. Invest your energy in healing yourself and introducing innovations into your life wherever you are ready for expansion and fulfillment. Sagittarian themes highlight the seeking of truth, freedom and a broader perspective, with a focus on education, publishing, travel, philosophy and spirituality. With four planets in Gemini, there can be an overload of information and details. A discordant T square to Neptune can bring deception, along with awareness about balancing head and heart.

    The Lunar Eclipse - Full Moon in Sagittarius also follows an extremely challenging square between Pluto and Uranus (on May 20th), requiring many people to make significant changes. For instance, many people are experiencing job changes, long-term relationship completions, health issues, and/or financial problems. With the squares and the eclipse falling so close together, breakdowns and overhauls will abound in Gemini/Sagittarius delivery systems. This means road work and detours. It means technology, software and vehicles requiring repair, upgrade and replacing. It means the media, courts, legislatures and other unbalanced institutions reaching illogical and unsupportable extremes. To find stable patches of ground as you walk through this, periodically unhook from your environment. Disengage from the panic, the insanity, the focus on trivialities, and other people’s agendas. Empty yourself, stabilize and check in with your own guidance system.

    This Lunar Eclipse prepares you to respond intuitively from your higher mind. A higher wisdom perspective of life can evolve instead of just automatically reacting to circumstances. With this particular strong moon in Sagittarius, it is a good time to grow into fuller self-expression. You might ask yourself about who you need to be in order to fully live your destiny with courage and passion."

    [1:33:07 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: yes, it is called THE SUPERMOON
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    Help Me Remember

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    An Index


    1 The Real Thing
    2 Yawp!
    3 Help Me Remember . . .
    4 Multi-Dimensional Self Mastery
    5 Putting Names on Frequencies

    Help Me Remember Remembering
    6 Multi-Dimensional Remembering
    Help Me Remember How to Shift Consciousness
    7 Shifting One’s Center
    Help me Remember Who I Am
    8 Remembering Me
    Help Me Remember Doorway
    9 Doorway
    Help Me Remember Woman
    10 About Our Bodies
    11 Archetype Man and Woman
    Help Me Remember Heart
    12 The Heart
    Help Me Remember What I Gotta Do
    13 Something Being Delivered
    14 Unwrapping
    15 Soul Vision -- Testing the Theory
    16 The Making


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    I remember a fire of the universe in my gut; it feels like this . . .

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 26th 2013

    Cosmic Attenuation, Triple Eclipses and STD(isease) to STP(leasure) Transformations in Dragon Cores

    [4:25:42 AM- Monday, May 27th, 2013 - +10UCT] Hades 88: talk in here
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    <<< A way of healing and enlightenment that reawakens our world

    The divine feminine is the goddess in all traditions, and has been since the beginning of time. These traditions are a mystical, magical, powerful, part of primal Mother Earth. They symbolize balance and healing, renewal and restoration.
    The symbol of Sophia is the dove, depicted as the bird descending from the heavens, known in Christianity as the Holy Spirit.
    Isis is the Egyptian goddess of magic, fertility, and motherhood. She has gone by many names, such as the Queen of the Heavens, Star of the Sea, Light-Giver of Heaven, Lady of Green Crops, and She Who Knows How To Make Right Use Of The Heart.
    She is the Great Mother of fertility, of creation, of life and death. Some see the Mary, the mother of Jesus, as an incarnation of Isis.

    i am sharing this with you because Jorgelito posted this on spruz and it applies to you.
    (hug)

    (47) Jesus said, "It is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch two bows. And it is impossible for a servant to serve two masters; otherwise, he will honor the one and treat the other contemptuously. No man drinks old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. And new wine is not put into old wineskins, lest they burst; nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. An old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, because a tear would result."
    (48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will move away."

    [4:26:26 AM] Kali 666: thank you raven
    [4:26:33 AM] Sirius 17: :*
    [11:47:45 AM] Emeth: [10:31:14 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130524104644.htm
    [10:31:47 AM] Sirius 17:
    Comparing the calculations of the unattenuated gamma rays to actual measurements of the attenuation of gamma rays and X-rays from blazars at different distances allowed Dominquez et al. to quantify the evolution of the EBL -- that is, to measure how the EBL changed over time as the Universe aged -- out to about 5 billion years ago (corresponding to a redshift of about z = 0.5). "Five billion years ago is the maximum distance we are able to probe with our current technology," Domínguez said.

    [11:12:31 AM] Sirius 17: hey sweety how are you doing?
    [11:14:42 AM] Sirius 17: i guess your catching up on all the chats
    [11:14:59 AM] Emeth: I am atm yes
    [11:15:01 AM] Sirius 17: i have been trying to help Rok and Xeia
    [11:15:08 AM] Emeth: I see this
    [11:15:12 AM] Sirius 17: not very well i am afraid
    [11:15:22 AM] Emeth: Thanks for your trust by the way. I feel the same about you
    [11:15:35 AM] Sirius 17: i know you do
    [11:15:51 AM] Sirius 17: you should log me in and read my convos with Xeia
    [11:15:56 AM] Sirius 17: when you have time
    [11:15:59 AM] Emeth: But let me catch up before commenting
    [11:16:01 AM] Sirius 17: its too much to paste
    [11:16:06 AM] Sirius 17: sure
    [11:17:38 AM] Sirius 17: i am invisible for a while because i am sick of rax pasting crap to me
    [11:46:02 AM] Emeth: Yes, he is attention seeking
    [11:46:11 AM] Emeth: I read the chats now
    [11:46:26 AM] Sirius 17: what a mess
    [11:46:54 AM] Emeth: All I can say, is that this seems to be the cores dissolving in the old style to renew in some new style
    [11:47:19 AM] Emeth: In a way I do understand Xeia
    [11:47:31 AM] Emeth: I put this on core
    [11:49:14 AM] Emeth: Xeia does seem to understand the new definition of this starhuman sexuality, but her own old world upbringing, tradition and possessiveness is simply too strong to correlate this in a groundbreaking way, the way Rok understands it but also cant live it
    [11:49:34 AM] Emeth: So they both are in limbo
    [11:50:27 AM] Sirius 17: that makes sense
    [11:50:27 AM] Emeth: Btw STD is changhed into STP in the new world as I understand it
    [11:50:41 AM] Sirius 17: stp?
    [11:50:46 AM] Emeth: Sexually Transmitted Disease becomes a Sexually Transmitted Pleasure
    [11:50:59 AM] Sirius 17: lol good one
    [11:51:11 AM] Emeth: This is actually how I read Xeia
    [11:51:46 AM] Emeth: She desires Rok to participate in all her 'sexynesses', and she as his core would STP
    [11:51:49 AM] Emeth: See this?
    [11:52:20 AM] Emeth: But Rok cant see past the 3D possessiveness and being number two and this is Xeia's humungous error here
    [11:52:40 AM] Sirius 17: yes i see all that
    [11:52:52 AM] Emeth: I feel Rok has evolved and made great strides to 'accomodate' number twos aka drones IF he would feel to be King Bee
    [11:53:19 AM] Emeth: Xeia's traditions and family stuff hinders this immensely
    [11:53:36 AM] Emeth: This 'fridge mechanic' STP, Rok and Xeia shared some time ago, showed this to me
    [11:54:29 AM] Sirius 17: yes i feel if they were together in 3-D and he was made to feel #1 that he would agree to share her, as long as he was present
    [11:54:42 AM] Emeth: The Cancun 'conditions' and this rax diversion would have blown my peace too
    [11:54:53 AM] Emeth: Yes this is the feeling I have
    [11:55:13 AM] Sirius 17: i think i also understand though Xeia's desire to not have him fuck someone else atm. She feels he did not really inseminate her first.
    [11:55:16 AM] Emeth: Rok is not as 'stuck up' in old 3D etiquette as xeia is, despite it seeming opposite
    [11:55:34 AM] Sirius 17: they never actually got to consumate things properly
    [11:55:39 AM] Emeth: Yes agreed. But this was a BASIC misunderstanding
    [11:55:55 AM] Emeth: Rok is worried about responsibility
    [11:56:09 AM] Emeth: Being there if he fathers a baby
    [11:56:16 AM] Sirius 17: which is understandable
    [11:56:24 AM] Emeth: This has nothing to do with Xeia as his core
    [11:56:26 AM] Sirius 17: he would want to be there
    [11:56:31 AM] Emeth: It is basic
    [11:57:35 AM] Sirius 17: yes and it is preventable as he said with birth control and other methods
    [11:57:46 AM] Emeth: This being made 'second best' is the core issue with Rok and Xeia mentally has made Rok number one, but she fails to express this in any meaningful (for Rok) way
    [11:58:26 AM] Emeth: So this is a typical 3D-4D issue here with the separatedness
    [11:58:57 AM] Emeth: Starhumans do NOT use condoms period
    [11:59:20 AM] Emeth: The ONLY hindrance to 'free love sexual' is STD and pregnancy
    [11:59:46 AM] Emeth: And this requires a reprogramming of the cosmic matrix
    [12:00:07 PM] Emeth: You must have heard about ETs choosing when or if to fall pregnant?
    [12:00:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [12:00:18 PM] Emeth: STD becomes STP naturally
    [12:01:32 PM] Emeth: So the ONLY remaining issue is choosing to EITHER inseminate or CHARGE the cosmic matrix itself in he manyness OR to actually conceive a starbaby of the core
    [12:01:54 PM] Emeth: The starhuman demands the sexual fluids
    [12:02:02 PM] Emeth: It is like battery acid
    [12:02:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is life fluid
    [12:02:34 PM] Emeth: I also know this demands merkabah resets. But we are addressing future potentials here not the human present
    [12:03:05 PM] Emeth: So all core sharing will inseminate or charge the cosmic matrix and ET forms will be born from this.
    [12:03:24 PM] Emeth: This is the Nabs of incubation chambers and sexual experiments by greys etc etc
    [12:04:31 PM] Emeth: So Rok's and Xeia's 'worries' about STD and pregnancies are sort of utopian. They are in the starhuman consciousness however and this is why they become memewars between the old status quo and the new possibilities
    [12:11:25 PM] Emeth: About your science post. My calculations show, that the inverse wavelength of the God Particle as the wormhole frequency becomes the supercluster galacti9c scale of the Cosmic Microwave Background matrix
    [12:12:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was not clear on this 5 billion year marker
    [12:12:05 PM] Emeth: Now this translates to a time of so 1.1 Million years after the Big Bang in terms of the Temperature those experiments are using
    [12:12:48 PM] Emeth: Now, you can read, that they use the 1/e parameter for the 'attenuation' of the photon energy
    [12:13:25 PM] Emeth: Also you must have seen, that they date the 'decoupling' time at so 380,000 yearts after the Big bang and not the 1.1 Million years of Thuban
    [12:13:48 PM] Emeth: 'Decoupling' means the universe changes in phase from opaqueness to transparancy
    [12:13:59 PM] Sirius 17: no i did not see that or i didnt understand it
    [12:14:13 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok
    [12:14:20 PM] Emeth: Meaning that the first atoms can form from the quark-gluon-photon-neutrino plasma
    [12:14:36 PM] Emeth: So no Hydrogen before decoupling
    [12:14:48 PM] Emeth: No atomic structures in the universe at all
    [12:15:05 PM] Sirius 17: so no stars
    [12:15:18 PM] Emeth: 1/e=1/2.7 as you know yes?
    [12:15:29 PM] Sirius 17: The Cosmic Gamma Ray Horizon is defined as the distance at which roughly one-third (or, more precisely, 1/e -- that is, 1/2.718 -- where e is the base of the natural logarithms) of the gamma rays of a particular energy have been attenuated.
    [12:15:31 PM] Emeth: No stars nothing but Black Holes
    [12:15:32 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [12:16:01 PM] Emeth: Multiply THEIR 380,000 years by the attenuation constant e=2.718
    [12:16:36 PM] Sirius 17: roughly 1.1 million
    [12:16:42 PM] Emeth: You get Thubans 'Devil Particle' wavelength and frequency of 1.1 Million years
    [12:16:47 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [12:17:07 PM] Sirius 17: interesting lol
    [12:17:25 PM] Emeth: You use the Radiation formula for Planck's Black Body Radiator
    [12:17:39 PM] Emeth: This is basic and well understood mainstream
    [12:17:57 PM] Emeth: You model the universe as an Oven
    [12:18:08 PM] Sirius 17: heating up
    [12:18:08 PM] Emeth: Radiating Heat
    [12:18:11 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [12:18:35 PM] Emeth: Cooling down actually from the hot superphase of the Big Bang in classical thermodynamics
    [12:19:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is now
    [12:19:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is now
    [12:19:24 PM] Sirius 17: but in the begining it was heating
    [12:19:38 PM] Emeth: No
    [12:20:00 PM] Emeth: Heating in the colloquial sense means Kinetic Energy, say as friction
    [12:20:13 PM] Sirius 17: i mean after the big bang it heated up real fast
    [12:20:30 PM] Emeth: Brownian motion as submolecular energy transfer mode
    [12:20:36 PM] Emeth: The Big Bang was no such thing. It simply defined an initial state from which classical thermodynamics coulod evolve and proceed
    [12:21:38 PM] Emeth: No It cooled straight away as an effect of the lightpath expansion
    [12:21:56 PM] Emeth: I described this in detail. But it is TLTR
    [12:22:17 PM] Emeth: There was no heating up in the lowerD
    [12:23:00 PM] Sirius 17: ok i guess i was confused
    [12:23:06 PM] Sirius 17: with the oven image
    [12:24:42 PM] Sirius 17: i had never heard of a blazar before this article
    [12:26:27 PM] Sirius 17: so how are things going over there Tony?
    [12:26:41 PM] Sirius 17: Adam settling in better now?
    [12:27:12 PM] Emeth: The Oven is the initial stage of Energy configuration. But this 'primordial energy' state is NOT kinetic as it would be in a real oven with something burning as fuel say
    [12:27:58 PM] Emeth: The fuel in the Big Bang Oven is the ZPE-VPE; part of which manifests as the galaxies and stars etc FROM a White Hole-Black Hole Father-Mother duality
    [12:28:37 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok
    [12:29:46 PM] Emeth: Those Black Holes then form a 1st generation of dineutronic (or ylemic) protostars BEFORE they become the blazars and galactic seedlings which the astrpphycisists now find at the cores of all galaxies as their 'quasar engines' etc
    [12:30:22 PM] Sirius 17: what does ylemic mean?
    [12:30:24 PM] Emeth: The ylem stars are the 'missing link' in the terrestrial cosmologies
    [12:30:32 PM] Emeth: It means neutron matter
    [12:30:53 PM] Emeth: Gamow coined it in the 1930l, but this term is no longer in vogue
    [12:31:09 PM] Sirius 17: they use dineutronic now?
    [12:31:23 PM] Emeth: Gamow was right however and ET science knows the 'astro secrets' lol
    [12:31:30 PM] Emeth: No I do
    [12:31:38 PM] Emeth: It is like the diquark
    [12:31:40 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok
    [12:32:13 PM] Emeth: The 'experts' similarly have not yet figured, that the higher quark families are actually diquarks and not singularly distinct
    [12:32:43 PM] Emeth: The top quark iks NOT singular it is a diquark ds=t to be precise
    [12:33:47 PM] Emeth: Likewise the charm is a uu=U; the bottom quark iks a us=b and the top is a ds=t
    [12:34:16 PM] Emeth: This stuff is crucial in the recent 'Higgs Boson' discovery and their measurements
    [12:34:31 PM] Sirius 17: i am afraid your talking over my head with the quarks, i admit i dont understand them well
    [12:34:45 PM] Emeth: dd=D and ss=S are then diquark forms of the top in a triplet configuration
    [12:35:18 PM] Emeth: You created a Higgs Boson thread on this
    [12:35:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes but i dont know all of them mean
    [12:36:25 PM] Sirius 17: you are the physicist lol
    [12:36:33 PM] Sirius 17: i am the layman here
    [12:39:51 PM] Emeth: It is not important now in this context. I only added some deeper data to fill in some gaps regarding the 'attenuation' post you linked
    [12:40:33 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw it today and figured you would know if it had any significance
    [12:40:46 PM] Emeth: They did mention gamma radiation producing electron-positron pairs and those relate directly to the quark structures and quantum geometry
    [12:41:02 PM] Emeth: The 5 billion years is simply a measurement limit
    [12:41:45 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130523143741.htm
    [12:41:51 PM] Sirius 17: this was interesting too
    [12:42:01 PM] Emeth: There is nothing new in this post, except verification of some older models
    [12:43:21 PM] Sirius 17: i know i just thought it was cool
    [12:43:52 PM] Sirius 17: i am feeling rather odd today
    [12:45:02 PM] Sirius 17: i reposted the nil nisi bonum poem again on FB
    [12:45:17 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know if you saw
    [12:45:21 PM] Emeth: I did
    [12:45:26 PM] Emeth: Odd times yes
    [12:45:38 PM] Emeth: You saw the triple eclipse yes?
    [12:45:43 PM] Sirius 17: it is memorial day here tomorrow and i thought it was appropriate
    [12:46:16 PM] Emeth: Three lunar phases produced three eclipes in a row
    [12:46:24 PM] Sirius 17: tripple eclipse? you mean the ones from this last supermoon over the past few months?
    [12:46:33 PM] Emeth: April 25th to May 10th to May 26th
    [12:46:39 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [12:46:42 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [12:47:09 PM] Emeth: Jorgelito commented on this, after I shared Xeia's link to astrology
    [12:47:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes i realized that when i saw this last one too
    [12:47:25 PM] Sirius 17: yes he did
    [12:47:31 PM] Sirius 17: good stuff he is posting
    [12:47:46 PM] Emeth: He is 'with it' in his own way
    [12:48:00 PM] Sirius 17: yeah this is what i feel too
    [12:48:43 PM] Sirius 17: there is so much i should be doing right now and for the last 4 or 5 days i have not felt like doing anything at all
    [12:48:50 PM] Sirius 17: nothing
    [12:49:02 PM] Sirius 17: i am in limbo
    [12:49:25 PM] Sirius 17: james quit smoking pot on Roses death anniversary
    [12:49:53 PM] Sirius 17: we talked last night a bit
    [12:49:55 PM] Emeth: We hope
    [12:50:07 PM] Sirius 17: well he said it was meaningful to him
    [12:50:19 PM] Emeth: Yes the 'Cosmic Sisterhood' is growing in strength and potency
    [12:50:23 PM] Sirius 17: he said he was leaving an old life behind and being reborn into a new life
    [12:50:37 PM] Sirius 17: this is how he saw the significance of the date
    [12:50:44 PM] Emeth: Just as the lower D 'cores' and parnerships apparently are falling apart on many seams
    [12:50:46 PM] Sirius 17: like a symbolic death of the old
    [12:50:53 PM] Emeth: Exactly
    [12:51:34 PM] Emeth: So the phys-phys might settle now to leave the memewars behind
    [12:51:42 PM] Sirius 17: and i was such an idiot i had totally forgotten even what day it was or that it had passed
    [12:51:46 PM] Emeth: Again, we can just hope for this
    [12:52:04 PM] Sirius 17: i mean i was shocked he remembered and did this
    [12:52:14 PM] Emeth: I forgot too
    [12:52:28 PM] Emeth: It is unfamiliar yes
    [12:52:35 PM] Sirius 17: he remembered her and his grandmother that day
    [12:52:37 PM] Emeth: May 24th?
    [12:52:44 PM] Sirius 17: 23rd
    [12:52:51 PM] Sirius 17: they died the same day a year apart
    [12:53:00 PM] Emeth: May 24th in Australia yes
    [12:53:13 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i guess it would be for you
    [12:53:18 PM] Emeth: The sun went into Gemini May 20th-21st
    [12:53:28 PM] Sirius 17: the twins
    [12:53:33 PM] Emeth: So 3½ days later
    [12:53:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes and the 20th was pentecost also right
    [12:54:03 PM] Emeth: The Cosmic twinship is the JCCJ now manifesting in the cores mostly unrecognized
    [12:54:30 PM] Emeth: Yes May 19th-20th was Whitsunday 2013
    [12:54:53 PM] Sirius 17: so i told him about my vision of the ET
    [12:55:00 PM] Emeth: Iow 'It is here!'
    [12:55:07 PM] Sirius 17: and he tells me that this is what he felt with Rose
    [12:55:15 PM] Sirius 17: she entered into him like a white smoke
    [12:55:22 PM] Emeth: Yes, as said this is the 'Real Contact'
    [12:55:37 PM] Emeth: Exactly 1 week after Ripper's death, I woke up with a jerk at so 4:10 am my time
    [12:55:39 PM] Sirius 17: he felt bilocated then in a way
    [12:55:47 PM] Emeth: Why I posted this edited pic
    [12:56:07 PM] Sirius 17: oh what did you feel in that moment?
    [12:56:45 PM] Emeth: I simply knew, I had to commemorate this somehow and I did with this pic on Jorgelito's post
    [12:57:08 PM] Emeth: I used Xeia's astrolink for this, as it encapsulated the energy
    [12:57:17 PM] Sirius 17: which post can you link me?
    [12:58:50 PM] Emeth: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=BDB3F1DE-78FA-4432-8DE8-567D1E8AF6BB
    [12:59:24 PM] Emeth: Help Me Remember
    [1:00:02 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok i see it
    [1:00:10 PM] Sirius 17: you put the eclipses on Ripper's pic
    [1:01:04 PM] Emeth: Yes, I saw this as the 'confirmation' of the ET testimony
    [1:01:22 PM] Emeth: And since that time I feel better about him 'missing' too
    [1:01:48 PM] Sirius 17: you did not know about the eclipses before?
    [1:01:56 PM] Emeth: It is this vision of yours in a Sirian Nommo mode of ET expression imo
    [1:02:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes i feel that too
    [1:02:49 PM] Emeth: I knew there were 2 but the compression of them in the 30 days; say as a 'encoded month of prophecy', I did not process before
    [1:03:13 PM] Sirius 17: i was telling james about it and he didnt know what i meant about grey alien looking. i had to show him pics
    [1:03:34 PM] Emeth: Remember the 40 days of 'Sinai's Wilderness' of the Exodus, being the days between Easter Sunday and Ascension?
    [1:03:41 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [1:04:42 PM] Emeth: Well, those 40 days become 49-50 in Pentecost and then the 40 days are mirrored in 100 in 50=40+10=10+10+30 and this ends June 17th
    [1:05:32 PM] Emeth: The 40 days so are Ascension to June 17th as the end of Chapter 19 in the Revelations as said a few times by now
    [1:05:55 PM] Emeth: And this is May 9-10 to June 17-18, 2013
    [1:06:24 PM] Emeth: The middle eclipse to the 'Heavenly Supper' of the Dragonomy aka the 'divine alchemy'
    [1:06:50 PM] Emeth: Now those 'core issues' could be part of those 40 mirror days and so on
    [1:07:20 PM] Emeth: What I tried to share with Rok as to why all this happens now and not say a few weeks ago
    [1:09:46 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok, sorry yeah i got a phone call
    [1:10:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw that you had explained some of this before
    [1:10:41 PM] Emeth: Attempted to, perhaps
    [1:10:49 PM] Sirius 17: its weird because i had thought that there were only two eclipses and just now realised there were 3 since you mentioned it. i was thinking it was only 2
    [1:11:26 PM] Emeth: Me too
    [1:11:49 PM] Emeth: And I am not sure at all as to how common or uncommon this is
    [1:11:52 PM] Sirius 17: is this related to the prophecy of between the two new moons?
    [1:11:57 PM] Emeth: Oh yes
    [1:12:03 PM] Sirius 17: i thought so
    [1:12:15 PM] Sirius 17: but 3? no we did not see this
    [1:12:18 PM] Emeth: And the 2 years of the treasures of Babylon
    [1:12:25 PM] Sirius 17: it has to be pretty damn rare
    [1:12:50 PM] Emeth: All those scripture codes are dynamic, meaning they are multitimed and mul;tileveled
    [1:13:19 PM] Emeth: I would say so, but could not find any reference, Nabs or mainstream or otherwise to it by now
    [1:13:33 PM] Sirius 17: how many days apart were these eclipses?
    [1:13:33 PM] Emeth: The 2 years are 2011 to 2013
    [1:13:39 PM] Emeth: 30
    [1:13:58 PM] Emeth: Exactly Full Moon to Full Moon
    [1:14:10 PM] Emeth: One lunation of 29.53 mean solar days
    [1:14:27 PM] Sirius 17: and there were 3 in those 30 days?
    [1:14:39 PM] Emeth: Two lunar eclipses divided in a mirror of a solar eclipse
    [1:14:45 PM] Emeth: The 'Ring of Fire'
    [1:14:50 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [1:14:53 PM] Sirius 17: omg oh oh ok
    [1:15:02 PM] Emeth: Yes, seems uncommon to me
    [1:15:07 PM] Sirius 17: i was thinking lunar eclipse and forgotten about the solar one
    [1:15:23 PM] Sirius 17: it was smack dab in the middle of them yes
    [1:15:28 PM] Emeth: This was 15 days after the first lunar and 15 days before the second lunar one
    [1:15:35 PM] Emeth: Yes and I cant remember this ever happening in my analysis of eclipses
    [1:15:46 PM] Sirius 17: ring of fire as the mirror lol
    [1:15:52 PM] Sirius 17: omg no wonder we are all nuts
    [1:16:28 PM] Emeth: Yes Cancer is RULED by the Full Moon
    [1:16:44 PM] Emeth: So the Mother is Eclipsed and divided see this Xeia?
    [1:17:21 PM] Emeth: The 'Ring of Fire' so stipulates a New Fatherhood too
    [1:18:02 PM] Sirius 17: makes perfect sense now
    [1:18:08 PM] Sirius 17: i think she logged off
    [1:19:12 PM] Emeth: Well I'd say real dragons would experience this energy profoundly
    [1:19:40 PM] Sirius 17: well what are you feeling?
    [1:19:45 PM] Emeth: Did you find any precedences about three eclipses in one lunation?
    [1:20:01 PM] Emeth: I feel the sisterhood Raven
    [1:20:05 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean? i have not done a search no
    [1:20:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes i felt this too with Xeia
    [1:20:26 PM] Sirius 17: i felt her pain
    [1:20:34 PM] Sirius 17: and reached out to her
    [1:20:46 PM] Emeth: The MILD! as my individuation of it as the Cosmic Twinhood
    [1:21:25 PM] Sirius 17: i feel so strange though Tony
    [1:21:46 PM] Sirius 17: it does seem like something is collapsing
    [1:21:55 PM] Sirius 17: freefalling
    [1:22:49 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know what to do literally with myself
    [1:23:15 PM] Sirius 17: like limbo
    [1:24:10 PM] Sirius 17: and i know Xeia is feeling things probably 10x more strange
    [1:24:43 PM] Emeth: yes, she carries the Dove symbol energy as well as the dragon blueprint of the starhumanity
    [1:25:01 PM] Emeth: So it is hard to BE in 3D and the old systems
    [1:25:07 PM] Emeth: As she said
    [1:25:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can relate
    [1:25:30 PM] Emeth: Yet, she cant 'escape it as she wishes' in the Nabs fashions
    [1:25:50 PM] Sirius 17: it feels like a prison
    [1:25:52 PM] Emeth: I searched for 3 eclipses, no luck so far
    [1:26:49 PM] Sirius 17: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090626070225AAtsYFg
    [1:27:03 PM] Sirius 17:
    Three eclipses occurring in a span of 30 days from july 7 this year?
    it is said that lunar eclipse to which the moon will be darkened by the earth's shadow will occur on july 7th and august 6th and a total solar eclipse is set to happen on july 22nd. Astronomers have asked people not to miss it since the next total solar eclipse will only happen in 2064. Interestingly, another lunar eclipse is slated to occur between 1 a.m. and 2 a.m. on the night of december 31st, darkening the new year celebrations just a wee bit. Legends say that mahabharatha war and two world war took place after three eclipses occured in a span of 30 days. But, many say that such tales have no historical or scientific evidence to prove. what is your opinion on this ?

    [1:27:19 PM] Emeth: http://theseason.yuku.com/topic/17712
    [1:28:00 PM] Sirius 17: that post above was from 4 years ago
    [1:28:44 PM] Sirius 17: http://dawnekovan.com/3-eclipses-between-25th-april-and-25th-may-2013/
    [1:28:51 PM] Sirius 17: found this link in the post
    [1:30:52 PM] Emeth: There is no eclipse in July
    [1:31:07 PM] Emeth: There is a lot of rubbish posted on this
    [1:31:41 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.tarot.com/astrology/eclipses-spring-2013
    [1:32:59 PM] Emeth: It is best perhaps to look at actual science tables for each year to discern repeats
    [1:33:25 PM] Sirius 17: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OH2013.html
    [1:33:47 PM] Emeth: Yes like that
    [1:34:01 PM] Emeth: There you can see that it is one lunation
    [1:34:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am using bing and i typed in 3 eclipses in 30 days in 2013
    [1:34:25 PM] Emeth: The science sites dont talk about it, because the three eclipses would NOT be related to saros cycles
    [1:35:02 PM] Emeth: This is a shortcoming of the science modus operandi right here
    [1:35:09 PM] Emeth: It would miss things like this
    [1:35:33 PM] Emeth: The 'pattern' is obscured
    [1:35:56 PM] Sirius 17: yeah well they dont care about any cosmic significance
    [1:39:45 PM] Emeth: There are 3 in 2018 Solar-Lunar-Solar
    [1:40:08 PM] Emeth: 13th July to 11th of August
    [1:40:15 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.oom2.com/t10705-triple-eclipses-in-april-and-may-2013-26-april-2013
    [1:40:30 PM] Emeth: 3 in 2020
    [1:40:53 PM] Emeth: Lunar-Solar-Lunar June 5th to July 5th
    [1:40:57 PM] Sirius 17: but in 30 days?
    [1:41:01 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [1:42:00 PM] Emeth: http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/list.html?starty=2000
    [1:42:32 PM] Sirius 17: http://hotpinklotus.com/%28X%281%29S%2835gojym4gs4ofbj1g5mm0qjq%29%29/default.aspx/act/newsletter.aspx/category/Hot+Pink+Lotus+Newsletter/menuitemid/184/Startrow/30/MenuGroup/Home+New/NewsletterID/293.htm
    [1:42:50 PM] Emeth: Solar-Lunar-Solar July 1st-July 31st, 2000
    [1:43:48 PM] Emeth: Lunar-Solar-Lunar on 26 May - 24th June 2002
    [1:44:24 PM] Sirius 17: ok so they are common but not all that common
    [1:45:15 PM] Emeth: Lunar-Solar-Lunar from July 7th to August 6th, 2009
    [1:46:10 PM] Sirius 17: you know though that all 3 of these eclipses were partial ?
    [1:46:26 PM] Emeth: Solar-Lunar-Solar June 1st to July 1st, 2011. I remember this one. It was when DD was with us
    [1:46:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes and now its reversed, lunar solar lunar
    [1:47:07 PM] Emeth: Those are all I could find for 20 years
    [1:47:27 PM] Emeth: This table actually missed this one, as it omitted May 25th
    [1:48:23 PM] Emeth: So 3 eclipses are not uncommon and occur so 7 times in 20 years
    [1:49:17 PM] Emeth: 2000-2002-2009-2011-2013-2018-2020 and then again in 2029
    [1:49:32 PM] Emeth: See the 2 year pattern here?
    [1:49:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [1:50:12 PM] Emeth: 2000-2002, then a jump to 2009-2011-2013 and then jumps to 2018-2020
    [1:50:35 PM] Emeth: Strange this table forgot 2013
    [1:51:00 PM] Emeth: Its a triple triple here lol
    [1:51:27 PM] Sirius 17: yeah lol
    [1:51:54 PM] Emeth: I still feel this is unique in a way
    [1:51:59 PM] Sirius 17: so wait
    [1:52:16 PM] Sirius 17: were these eclipses all within 30 days?
    [1:52:35 PM] Sirius 17: 7 times in 20 years
    [1:52:48 PM] Emeth: Yes, I gave the dates from this chart
    [1:52:56 PM] Sirius 17: ok
    [1:53:28 PM] Emeth: If three eclipses are so 30 days apart, they must be in this lunation encoded say in Isaiah
    [1:53:28 PM] Sirius 17: did you see where i said that all 3 of these eclipses were partial
    [1:53:41 PM] Emeth: No, yes
    [1:53:55 PM] Emeth: I did not check partiality
    [1:54:36 PM] Emeth: I'll add this as PaToAnPe-Partial-Total-Annular-Penumbral
    [1:55:06 PM] Emeth: 2011 was linked to the Menses and I incorporated this in the long Logostime mandala
    [1:55:24 PM] Emeth: 2011=PaToPa
    [1:57:12 PM] Emeth: 2013=PeAnPa
    [1:57:40 PM] Emeth: 2018=PaToPa
    [1:57:42 PM] Sirius 17:
    A rare hybrid solar eclipse, in which an annular eclipse transitions into a total solar eclipse depending on where a viewer is observing from, will occur on Nov. 3 and be primarily visible along a thin corridor that begins in the northern Atlantic Ocean and crosses to equatorial Africa, according to eclipse expert Fred Espenak at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

    [1:57:52 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.space.com/20815-lunar-eclipse-full-moon-webcasts.html
    [1:58:14 PM] Emeth: 2020=PeAnPe
    [1:59:47 PM] Emeth: 2029 June 12th to July 11th is PaToPa
    [2:00:31 PM] Sirius 17: i am going to head out to a movie hon
    [2:00:33 PM] Emeth: 2000=PaToPa
    [2:01:02 PM] Emeth: 2002=PeAnPe
    [2:01:20 PM] Emeth: 2009=PeToPe
    [2:01:30 PM] Sirius 17: i will be back later
    [2:01:52 PM] Sirius 17: james is taking me to see that new oz movie
    [2:02:10 PM] Emeth: The frequencies seem to be mainly PaToPa with PeAnPe's interspersed
    [2:02:28 PM] Emeth: Oh have fun
    [2:02:41 PM] Emeth: Oz movie?
    [2:02:41 PM] Sirius 17: thank you
    [2:03:00 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.fandango.com/ozthegreatandpowerful3d_155763/movieoverview?date=
    [2:03:10 PM] Emeth: James as the Wizard of Oz

    [2:14:27 PM] Emeth: http://www.dongrays.com/eclipse/
    [2:14:31 PM] Emeth: This is ok to check the eclipse frequencies for years
    [2:20:22 PM] Emeth: So we have to add 2016 August 18th to September 16th as a Lunar-Solar-Lunar Pe-An-Pe
    [2:22:08 PM] Emeth: But this one missed 2029
    [2:23:25 PM] Emeth: And he is the NASA researcher Fred Espenak
    [2:24:27 PM] Emeth: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse.html
    [2:26:02 PM] Emeth: {2000-2002}--{2009-2011-2013}--{2016-2018-2020}--{2029-2031}--{2036-2038}
    [2:26:51 PM] Emeth: Seems to be a reoccurrence pattern for the one lunation for 3 eclipses phenomenon
    [2:39:49 PM] Emeth: 2031 from May 7th to June 5th as Lunar-Solar-Lunar as Pe-An-Pe and 2036 from July 23rd to August 21st as Solar-Lunar-Solar as Pa-To-Pa
    [2:47:46 PM] Emeth: 2038 from June 17th to July 16th as Lunar-Solar-Lunar as Pe-An-Pe
    [2:54:47 PM] Emeth: No such triples between 2020 and 2029 is a little suspect however and the eclipse trackers might not have calculated some missing ones at those future times
    [3:01:00 PM] Emeth: The Pa-To-Pa seems to alternate with a general PeAnPe cyclicity however for the years {2000-2002} and {2016-2038}
    [3:06:35 PM] Emeth: Then if there are NO missing eclipses between 2002 and 2009 (I will check this); then the Triplet {2009-2011-2013} is indeed uncharacteristic in the 2009-Lunar-Solar-Lunar Pe-To-Pe----2011-Solar-Lunar-Solar Pa-To-Pa---2013-Lunar-Solar-Lunar PE-AN-PA 'completion' of something old then resetting the eclipse trios in the 2016 nexus as indicated
    I checked and there were NO triple eclipses from 2002 to 2009
    [3:17:36 PM] Emeth: So as we all 'met' first on the old PA from December 2009; with Thuban being 'born' in January 2010; we can indeed suppose that the Eclipse triple trio {2009-2011-2013} becomes indicative to the 'Thuban agency' for the World Logos as stipulated a number of times
    [3:18:58 PM] Emeth: This is then of course a validation of the Logos Timecharts as published
    I recall of having emphasized this triple eclipse cycle of 2011 as being related to the 'cosmic menses' of the DragonQueenBees on the Logos timecharts (the long times) on the MOA, Gaia and Spruz forums
    [3:27:40 PM] Emeth: Now remember that Rok was 'interested' in the Penumbral lunar eclipse and took photos, as did Xeia
    [3:29:34 PM] Emeth: The solar midpoint of the PE-AN-PA then became 'overlooked' in the Annular Eclipse by most people, except the ones in Australia and the eclipse 'hunters', where this could be observed
    [3:30:25 PM] Emeth: The solar transit from Taurus into Gemini of Pentecost 2013 then initiated the triple eclipse completion in the partial eclipse and the full moon of April 25th, 2013 in a more global recognisance
    There is also a triple conjunction between Jupiter, Venus and Mercury at that time.
    In the video below, Elnath is the 'butting horn' of the Taurus constellation and is the second brightest star in Taurus after Aldebaran (follower to the Pleiades). Also note Castor and Pollux, which are the Geminian Twin stars of course for this region of the sky. You might notice that after Elnath disappears below the horizon, Castor and Pollux appear from above.

    elnath.
    Jupiter, Venus and Mercury now within a 3-degree circle

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    Look west after sunset on May 25, 26, 27
     




    Jupiter, Venus and Mercury are within a 3-degree circle on the sky’s dome on May 25-27, 2013. May 26 is the closest grouping of these three planets until the year 2021.
     
    http://earthsky.org/space/venus-jupiter-mercury-late-may-2013-triple-conjunction-planetary-trio-may-26
    The planetary trio has begun! That’s when three planets fit within a circle with a 5-degree, or smaller, diameter. Jupiter, Venus and Mercury meet that definition of a planetary trio from May 24-29, 2013. And they’ll be even closer – all be about 3 degrees apart – as evening dusk falls on May 25, 26 and 27. May 26 is the closest grouping of these three planets until the year 2021. If your sky is clear – and your horizon unobstructed – look for the planets in the west as soon as the sun sets on these May 2013 evenings. You’ll easily find the two brightest planets there: Venus and Jupiter. The innermost planet Mercury is fainter, but you’ll see it. Some are calling this late May 2013 event a triple conjunction, but a more fitting and descriptive name is planetary trio.
    When and how do I look for the three planets?
    Jupiter, Venus, Mercury daily viewing guide
    Do I need any special equipment to see them?
    How often do three planets appear together like this?
    Triple conjunction? Planetary trio? Which?

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    Jupiter, Venus and Mercury as they’ll appear in western twilight on May 24, 2013.




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    Planetary trio – Venus, Jupiter, Mercury – at their closest on May 26, 2013. Illustration via bostonastronomy.net

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    The planets Venus and Jupiter as they appear in mid-May 2013.

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    The planets Mercury, Venus and Jupiter as they appear after sunset on May 23.

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    On May 26, you can see the closest grouping of three planets until the year 2021.

    When and how do I look for the three planets?
    Start looking just after the sun goes down, about 30 minutes after sunset. Jupiter and Venus are now easily visible – both very bright – but they are low in the western twilight. Trees or tall buildings will block them from view. Mercury is also visible to the eye now. They are a very noticeable grouping, low in the twilight sky. Just be sure to look soon after the sun sets, because they’ll soon follow the sun below the western horizon.
    Note that all three planets should be close enough together now for simultaneous binocular viewing. You can see them with the eye alone. Binoculars will enhance your enjoyment of the twilight scene.

    Jupiter, Venus Mercury daily viewing guide
    On May 24, Mercury passes Venus less than 2 degrees from Venus in right ascension. Around this time, the three planets will begin to look like a triangle in the twilight. Venus, Jupiter, and Mercury now all fit within a 5-degree circle and will stay that close together until May 29.
    On May 26, the triangle of Venus, Jupiter and Mercury will be most compact, closer than you’ll see them again until 2021. Your thumb at arm’s length will almost cover them.
    By May 27, the triangle is beginning to disperse, but wait … keep watching.
    On May 28, Venus passes Jupiter in right ascension, at a distance of 1 degree. The two brightest worlds 1 degree apart! It’ll be an awesome sight.
    Do I need any special equipment to see them? Not necessarily. The planets are bright and should be visible to your eye, assuming you’re looking toward an unobstructed western horizon in late May. But these planets will be setting soon after the sun. So if you have binoculars, do use them to spot the planets in the bright twilight and enhance your view. As soon as you locate Venus, look in that direction using binoculars. All three planets should fit simultaneously into the field of view of ordinary binoculars from May 25-27. Then, as twilight fades to night, set the binoculars aside and enjoy the view with your eye alone.
    How about cameras and telescopes? Sure! If you have them, know how to use them and enjoy using them … give it a try. And if you get a good photo, please post it for all to see on EarthSky’s Facebook page, or at the EarthSky photo community on G+.

    How often do three planets appear together like this?
    Seeing three planets so close together is fairly rare. It happened last in May 2011, and it won’t happen again until October 2015. This grouping is especially good because Venus and Jupiter are the brightest planets, and Mercury appears brighter, too, than most stars. The planetary trio will be visible even in places with heavy urban light pollution.



    Triple conjunction? Planetary trio? Which?
    Strictly speaking, this is not a triple conjunction. A triple conjunction is an astronomical event that unfolds over several months. Traditionally, this term is used when two planets, or a planet and a star, appear due north-south of each other in the sky three times in a short space of time. That’s happening now, by the way, with Mercury and Venus. They are in conjunction (north-south on sky’s dome) on March 6, May 25 and June 20 this year. It’ll happen next in October-November 2013, when Mercury and Saturn will stage a true triple conjunction, appearing due north-south in the sky on October 10, October 28 and again on November 26.
    In 2015, there will be another true triple conjunction, this time between the planets Venus and Jupiter (July 1, July 31, October 26).
    But a triple conjunction is not what is happening in late May. Instead, there will be three separate planetary conjunctions in late May, over a few days:
    Mercury and Venus on May 25, 2013 (4 UTC)
    Mercury and Jupiter on May 27, 2013 (10 UTC)
    Venus and Jupiter on May 28, 2013 (21 UTC)
    See the difference?

    mercuy-venus-jupiter-to-scale.
    Approximate relative sizes of Mercury, Venus and Jupiter. They look similar in our sky only because their distances from us are so different. During the last week of May, Mercury is about 9 light-minutes from Earth, Venus is 14 light-minutes away, and Jupiter is 51 light-minutes away. One light-minute is about 11 million miles (18 million km). Image via NASA

    If all three planets had the same right ascension at once … wow! That’d definitely be a very cool triple conjunction. But I can’t recall that happening in my four decades of watching the sky. No idea how often it occurs, if ever.
    Meanwhile, Jean Meeus of Belgium, recognized as a world authority in spherical and mathematical astronomy, has defined the term planetary trio as when three planets fit within a circle with a minimum diameter smaller than 5 degrees. All three planets will meet Meeus’ definition of a planetary trio from May 24-29, 2013. And they’ll be even closer – all be about 3 degrees apart – as evening dusk falls on May 25, 26 and 27. That’s about the width of your thumb at an arm length. It’ll be awesome. Don’t miss ‘em!
    Bottom line: Jupiter, Venus and Mercury now fit within a circle whose diameter is less than 5 degrees wide on the sky’s dome. They’ll continue to be that close, or closer, through May 29. They’ll be a most compact triangle on May 26, closer than we’ll see them again until 2021. Some are also calling this a triple conjunction, but really it’s just three separate conjunctions happening over a few days. A better name for this event is planetary trio.
    Details on May 25 planetary trio
    Details on May 26 planetary trio (closest grouping of the three planets)
    Details on May 27 planetary trio
    Three planets adorn the western evening sky last week of May
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    If you look up at the sky near Full Moon. May 25th, 2013, you may be in for a spectacular treat. A celestial dance between three different planets will occur on Friday, May 24th, 2013 and into the weekend. The triple conjunction will include Venus, Jupiter and Mercury--and should make for some great sky gazing. (Photo : NASA/Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/Goddard Space Flight Center)
    ​
    Emeth, May 27th, 2013
    [4:36:39 PM] Hades 88: Tony do u think this holds any water?
    http://etheric.com/g2-cloud-predicted-to-approach-twice-as-close-to-gc/
    [4:42:50 PM] Emeth: Not really
    [4:43:25 PM] Emeth: La Violette is a ok scientist but has weird ideas and has messed up the metaphysics with the astrophysics
    [4:43:27 PM] Hades 88: wording appears scientific
    [4:43:31 PM] Emeth: He is
    [4:43:48 PM] Emeth: The first paragraph is ok
    [4:44:12 PM] Emeth: But then he links it to his own ideas about energy signals from the galactic centre
    [4:44:20 PM] Hades 88: he talks about a possible hypernova
    [4:44:26 PM] Emeth: This is rather Nabs related
    [4:44:39 PM] Hades 88: mhm ok
    [4:45:07 PM] Emeth: Carol and Ryan etc have a lot of time for La Violette, thinking his ideas give the Nabs scientific credibility
    [4:46:49 PM] Emeth: The main thing here is that the 'signals from the galactic centre' are time-scale related more so then being some cyclic 'new astrophysical phenomenon'
    [4:47:47 PM] Emeth: The gamma ray bubbles from Nasa are real ok and it is their size of 25,000 years which make them New Age see and not the physics
    [4:48:05 PM] Emeth: Because Earth is so 26,000 years from the galactic centre
    [4:48:48 PM] Emeth: So this time INTERSECTS the galactic evolution say in the Thuban timelines and also the Maya etc
    [4:50:25 PM] Emeth: Whatever this article says and there might very well be a change in the galactic core; this change will then take 26,000 years to affect the earth at lightspeed
    [4:51:09 PM] Emeth: So overall this stuff is misleading to the general reader, as heshe thinks whatever happens at the core affects the galaxy overall
    This was my point to the G19 Nabs Susan posted all over the place
    [4:53:55 PM] Hades 88: many seem to like it bot not sure if all understand it..wording is just well wording
    [4:56:19 PM] Emeth: Indeed
    [4:57:59 PM] Emeth: It relates to say the 'Pleiadean Agenda' of one Nabser, called Barbara Hand-Clow and another real scientist gone a little Nabs in Tom van Flandern. I even liked some of Van Flandern ideas on the variation of the Gravitational Constant. But most of his stuff is whacko and he was 'exiled' from the global astrophysical community some years ago. He died in 2009.
    [4:58:39 PM] Hades 88: cant look forward to obliteration then
    [5:01:12 PM] Emeth: But people like Hoagland and La Violette etc use his work of course and you can see the 'drift' from real science into quasi science in this
    Nope. no hypernova in 4D Euclidean spacetime for you
    [5:03:41 PM] Hades 88: drat
    [5:03:53 PM] Emeth: Sorry about that
    [5:04:08 PM] Hades 88: and i was thinking i found some good news
    [5:04:36 PM] Emeth: Of course in the dragon cosmology a hypernova is ongoing from the December 21st solstice
    [5:05:12 PM] Emeth: But this is not in metric 4D spacetime, but in 5D+ cosmic timespace
    [5:06:08 PM] Emeth: Many feel hings have changed in the timespace matrix Rok. This is why they now look for contingencies
    [5:06:21 PM] Emeth: New dates, new physicalised phenomena
    [5:06:52 PM] Emeth: But it is all the same run of the mill Nabs as before with dates changed
    [5:07:10 PM] Emeth: The only solution is the 'closing of the old source books'
    [5:07:35 PM] Emeth: And this must become made manifest metaphysically before it can affect lower D
    [5:08:07 PM] Emeth: But the scripture codes are real Rok and noone can deny those writs and 'laws' exist
    [5:08:34 PM] Emeth: Chaning those so is a 'true hidden agenda' and not Nabs meanderings and ponderings, no matter how well thought out
    [5:09:06 PM] Hades 88: beig a tad selfish here...neither of the old books are any help to me (personally)
    [5:10:23 PM] Hades 88: have u seen Oblivion?
    [5:10:37 PM] Emeth: This is much better actually, then you 'seeing in them the Word of God' or Allah etc
    [5:10:55 PM] Emeth: No, is this a movie?
    [5:11:43 PM] Hades 88: yes
    [5:11:48 PM] Emeth: Because 'seeing relevance in them' most likely will make you a 'believer' in some partiality of interpretation and basically a 'lie of words playing with themselves'
    I check Oblivion
    [5:14:20 PM] Emeth: Well we could consider ourselves as 'obliterated' I'd say
    [5:16:23 PM] Emeth: Ah this is a new release, so I wont get it til later
    [5:16:36 PM] Emeth: Seems appropriate for the times though
    [5:16:57 PM] Hades 88: http://moarpowah.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/tet-oblivion-machine.jpg
    [5:17:01 PM] Emeth: Post apocalyptic 2077
    [5:17:06 PM] Hades 88: i have to go afk...got a call
    [5:17:38 PM] Emeth: Now change 2077 into 2014 and I would say -bingo - metaphysically anyway
    [5:38:34 PM] Hades 88: i think 2014 wil be same as any other year
    [7:07:21 PM] Emeth: I am not so indifferent towards the overall evolvement of inhtelligence embedded in space and time
    [7:08:25 PM] Emeth: 1942 was certainly different from 1937 and 1946 was rather different from 1945 and so on
    [7:09:38 PM] Emeth: In an even deeper sense is 2013 different from 2012, despite the 'business as ususal mode' not appearing of being very different
    Just look at your Slovenia and the global money obsessed politics
    [7:16:35 PM] Hades 88: well it is different within the old norms and frame of work
    [7:16:45 PM] Hades 88: within
    [7:17:33 PM] Hades 88: u still have wars but u fight them differently
    [7:17:37 PM] Emeth: Yes and this is just 'my point' The 'within' must change before the without can
    [7:17:44 PM] Hades 88: u still have wars but reasons are different
    [7:17:56 PM] Emeth: And this is the present status quo
    [7:17:56 PM] Hades 88: u still have financial collaps but the way it is done is different
    [7:17:57 PM] Hades 88: etc
    [7:18:09 PM] Hades 88: within never changes
    [7:18:15 PM] Emeth: I disagree
    [7:18:28 PM] Hades 88: within would demand people to change and they never change...people go and are "people"
    [7:18:39 PM] Hades 88: world changes...the idiots on it remain the same
    [7:18:41 PM] Emeth: How do you eliminate religion and its misconseptions and wars?
    [7:19:12 PM] Emeth: You do it by 'revolutionising' the meaning of the words
    [7:19:24 PM] Hades 88: u dont, u cant.....same as how do u eliminate the guns in usa....u cant...unless the people themselves reject it
    [7:19:37 PM] Hades 88: but they wont
    [7:19:48 PM] Emeth: Same thing happened in the Rennaissance with science 'overtaking' the old monarchies and rules by the clergy
    [7:20:33 PM] Emeth: Yes it is 'the people' changing from democratic 'mob rule' to something else
    [7:20:34 PM] Hades 88: the monarhcies are still here...they are still active...they just moved in the background and let their puppets take the blame
    [7:20:50 PM] Emeth: Yes and the key is data
    [7:21:24 PM] Emeth: The minority CAN become the majority and then 'democrcy as tyranny of the ignoramus' CAN become a more '
    [7:21:43 PM] Emeth: mentally 'advanced' group or societal 'complex'
    [7:21:50 PM] Hades 88: people wont ever change, nothing will
    [7:22:12 PM] Emeth: So again, atm only a 'superior air power' seen say, can effect this change
    [7:22:36 PM] Emeth: You are pessimistic without comparing the histories
    [7:22:58 PM] Hades 88: history is same ..cyclical...repetition...just the color and sound changes
    [7:23:02 PM] Emeth: Never before was information so readily accessible globally
    [7:23:13 PM] Emeth: No, I disagree
    [7:23:50 PM] Emeth: I remember 1966 when the Football world cup fimnal was on between Germany and England
    [7:24:00 PM] Hades 88: there isnt any superior air power....there is just this shit of a place
    [7:24:08 PM] Emeth: This was in 'modern Germany' on Black and White TV
    [7:24:58 PM] Emeth: Then you belittle and undervalue the vastness of the universe and the time of its evolution in many forms and on many levels
    [7:25:42 PM] Hades 88: where is that air power then?
    [7:26:08 PM] Emeth: 2013-1966=47. So in 47 years this cosmic backwater civilisation has gone from relatively primitive Cathode tubes to handheld miniature computers
    [7:27:16 PM] Emeth: Well, many are speculating and waiting. My 'source' are the scripture codes, which define this clearly in an odd and metophorical form of semantics
    [7:27:51 PM] Emeth: Apart from those 'sources' I am perhaps even more skeptical than you are
    [7:28:25 PM] Emeth: But I do not dismiss clearly rationally indicated possibilities as you seem to do
    [7:28:42 PM] Hades 88: ah technology progress...big deal...is it really to our benefit? or is the world and society getting sicker due to it
    [7:28:53 PM] Emeth: Call it hope in better systems or something akin to that
    [7:29:09 PM] Emeth: Both, it is is twoedged sword
    [7:30:01 PM] Hades 88: http://www.madmaxmodels.com/images/gyrokw7.JPG
    [7:30:41 PM] Emeth: SOMEPLACE in the 'bigger schema of living' has to be the 'worst place' and you know where this 'place' is. But if this is true, then there is a reason for it
    [7:31:24 PM] Emeth: And this reason addresses that SOMEPLACE has to serve as cosmic example of HOW NOT to build a civilisation
    [7:32:13 PM] Emeth: 'Someone's gotta do it!" is the motto and the someone is the human race in quarantine
    [7:32:32 PM] Hades 88: or prhaps it is just some place that happens to be fucked up
    [7:33:13 PM] Emeth: Here you COULD be correct IF the place and existence is ultimately purposeless and meaningless
    [7:33:43 PM] Hades 88: it is
    [7:33:48 PM] Emeth: This is the atheist-materialist perspecrive and many do give adherence to it and consider themselves 'followers' of this philosophy
    [7:34:17 PM] Emeth: Well you know that I disagree and that Xeia and Raven and many others also disagree with you
    [7:34:46 PM] Hades 88: i know
    [7:34:49 PM] Emeth: Good
    [7:35:05 PM] Hades 88: but again...show me anything that would point to it not being like that...there is none
    [7:35:24 PM] Emeth: There iks the way the universe works and its laws and sciences
    [7:35:57 PM] Hades 88: yes the small rotate around the big...it is here like that too
    [7:36:16 PM] Hades 88: the bigger the "badder"
    [7:36:17 PM] Emeth: Anyone I know or read or heard about KNOWS that this is not a purposeless cosmos or creation; even if they hide behind scientific nihilisms
    [7:37:06 PM] Hades 88: the purpose of not having a a purpose is a purpose?
    [7:37:20 PM] Emeth: My position derives just from this incredible 'finetuning' of things which are nevertheless encompasssed by stochastic-probabilistic determinants
    [7:37:53 PM] Emeth: It is the 'chanciness' the atheists use to support their purposeless cosmologies
    [7:38:06 PM] Emeth: But they are trapped in self paradoxitities
    [7:38:57 PM] Emeth: You say, you dont understand science too well. So you should not use such parameters to support your intellectual position
    [7:39:38 PM] Hades 88: i am not using any scientific parameters...
    [7:40:05 PM] Emeth: Even a historical comparison will show you that the civilisations rise and fall, but that there is an underpinning undercurrent
    [7:40:40 PM] Emeth: You use unfounded skepticism and a nihilistic outlook on life. This is intellectually unforgivable actually
    [7:41:09 PM] Emeth: If you pride yourself on rationality you should use its own criteria
    [7:41:48 PM] Emeth: Often you do up to a point and then when it gets too hard, you go life denying
    [7:43:33 PM] Emeth: The 'collective' versus the individual is a most decisive clichee to see past the religions and the human mindedness
    [7:44:21 PM] Emeth: Define the true collective in say a cosmic way and you will also find a new form of individuality
    [7:46:03 PM] Hades 88: civlisations rose and fell in simillar manner as today...just the methods changed...to accomodate the new developments....soon the civilization will fall simply by bringing its "internet" offline....no more need for a a decade long military campaign...
    [7:46:38 PM] Hades 88: but this "progress" is in terms of method only, nothing else
    [7:48:12 PM] Emeth: You are missing the 'collective' here
    [7:48:22 PM] Hades 88: there is no collective among humans....it is said that a human animal it as it's best when in danger...that when things are most dire the animal will go into a pack, it will regroup and work together....but that is a myth
    [7:48:46 PM] Hades 88: collective in humans is more like obedience
    [7:48:54 PM] Hades 88: and submission
    [7:49:28 PM] Emeth: The 'masses' cannot be manipulated anymore as in the past. You can see thisd in the 'Arabian Spring or whatever they called it. This does not mean the 'masses' are no longer mindfucked - of course they are'
    [7:50:02 PM] Emeth: Yes, you have a realisation there, but yet it is incomplete
    [7:50:13 PM] Hades 88: arabian spring itself was a manipulation...it was not a fb revolution, it was proped...
    [7:50:28 PM] Emeth: Because a really new way of looking at thingbs has not yet been given to the 'mindfucked masses'
    [7:50:34 PM] Hades 88: yes people sure came...but not because their awarness would grow
    [7:50:39 PM] Emeth: This does not matter
    [7:50:43 PM] Hades 88: but beacuse the heard leader told them to
    [7:51:03 PM] Emeth: It opened the worldwide communication channels like social media etc
    [7:51:05 PM] Hades 88: it matters since it is same old...people doing as told...collective is obedience and sumbission
    [7:51:16 PM] Emeth: You miss the issue dramatically
    [7:51:32 PM] Emeth: It is technology which has opened the 'channels'
    [7:51:37 PM] Hades 88: look at egypt today...is it any better? do women have more rights? no
    [7:52:10 PM] Hades 88: the technology was used yes ofc...instead of door to door notices u got a fb wall post....the rst is the same...as said...only method changes
    [7:52:18 PM] Emeth: As said you miss the issues. No Egypt is worse imo, just as Irak is worse now than it was with Saddam
    [7:52:35 PM] Hades 88: yes it is worse
    [7:52:40 PM] Hades 88: do u know why?
    [7:52:46 PM] Hades 88: because it was artifical all of it
    [7:52:59 PM] Hades 88: same old shit of controll using new methods
    [7:53:01 PM] Hades 88: fb
    [7:53:03 PM] Hades 88: twitter
    [7:53:12 PM] Hades 88: go like my post mohamed
    [7:53:13 PM] Emeth: But overall the globalisation in technology is the key here with the economical and fiscal 'war mongering' more like a sideshow
    [7:53:27 PM] Emeth: Rok think deeper here
    [7:53:47 PM] Hades 88: the means for people to inform themselves are available yes....just by a "clcik of a button"
    [7:53:51 PM] Hades 88: but people do not care
    [7:53:59 PM] Hades 88: they wont go to protest, unless told so
    [7:54:08 PM] Emeth: You are right with the manipulations, but you cant see a deeper purpose of it and a reason BEYOND the instigators
    [7:54:52 PM] Emeth: Yes, the 95% are mindfucked as the 'sheeple' and they WONT change
    [7:55:26 PM] Emeth: BUT open a new data source, they can see and then watch what will happen to stockmarkets and budgets and the IMF
    [7:55:58 PM] Emeth: Then the 95% will eat the old memes in a day
    [7:56:13 PM] Emeth: This new data source is NOT HUMAN
    [7:56:17 PM] Hades 88: what new data source? open where? and why would anyone be interested?
    [7:56:27 PM] Emeth: It MUST be technologically superior
    [7:56:40 PM] Emeth: Contact Rok
    [7:56:46 PM] Hades 88: there wont be any
    [7:56:50 PM] Emeth: I disagree
    [7:56:56 PM] Hades 88: where are they then?
    [7:57:09 PM] Emeth: Perhaps we wont see it in our present bodyforms
    [7:57:35 PM] Emeth: They are where Lan is atm
    [7:57:42 PM] Hades 88: oh goody, i get to live here till i drop and die?
    [7:57:51 PM] Emeth: I dont know Rok
    [7:58:05 PM] Emeth: I dont know what will be in 2014
    [7:58:09 PM] Hades 88: well this to me is same as...there wont be any contact
    [7:58:22 PM] Hades 88: 2014? what will be? i tell ya....more of the same BS
    [7:58:27 PM] Emeth: But I do know, that the old source codes are completing itself
    [7:58:35 PM] Emeth: And this means RESET
    [7:58:51 PM] Hades 88: just press the button then
    [7:58:56 PM] Emeth: There has already been contact
    [7:58:58 PM] Hades 88: let me see how nothing will change
    [7:59:04 PM] Hades 88: where?
    [7:59:28 PM] Emeth: I am not in control Rok and no human incarnate is
    [7:59:38 PM] Emeth: Inside
    [8:00:09 PM] Emeth: The matrix you can see is only part of the matrix
    [8:00:28 PM] Emeth: Your dreams are also a part of the one matrix
    [8:00:30 PM] Hades 88: inside atm i have a headache...one of many...since yesterday
    [8:00:47 PM] Hades 88: so much for contact...could be i need to install a door bell
    [8:00:50 PM] Hades 88: also inside...
    [8:00:52 PM] Emeth: Yes it is a time of the shifting sands
    [8:00:55 PM] Hades 88: which is...unreachable
    [8:01:02 PM] Emeth: Not at all
    [8:01:18 PM] Emeth: Just image your imagination and you can see it within
    [8:01:51 PM] Emeth: All the www is within too and requires no wires, broadband or cell towers
    [8:02:18 PM] Emeth: And this is not Nabs. This is simple fractalisation of the hologram
    [8:02:32 PM] Emeth: Well proven and known by mainstream science
    The Nabsers use it though to embellish their fantasies
    [8:03:45 PM] Hades 88: collective sub-consciouse u mean?
    [8:05:25 PM] Emeth: yes this is a nice word for it
    [8:05:52 PM] Emeth: The timeless you and the Rok without a snowflake bodyform
    [8:06:13 PM] Emeth: The Ocean and the Sea without individualisation
    [8:07:12 PM] Emeth: There are many words, which attempt to describe this; some much worse like Hinduistic Maya, than others
    [8:08:01 PM] Emeth: The 'Illusion' of the Nabser is rather akin the 'Illusion' of the Nirvana believer and then becomes the 'Reality' of the materialist in contraindication, denying as 'Illusion' the mirror of hisher own belief structure
    [8:08:20 PM] Emeth: Both are missing their own essences and pillars of logistical foundation
    [8:09:36 PM] Hades 88: well i dont see and immediate effects of this "inner internet" that would be to the benefit a whole...
    [8:09:41 PM] Hades 88: it is...a theory
    [8:10:17 PM] Emeth: Well pretty much science fact for a decade or so
    [8:10:35 PM] Emeth: This is at the forefront of theoretical physics Rok
    [8:11:09 PM] Emeth: Much more 'established' than 'multiverses' and 'many world' hypotheses
    [8:11:39 PM] Hades 88: and how do u measure subconsciouse?
    [8:12:46 PM] Emeth: Basically it is now pretty much status quo, that the entire universe is a database mapped as a 3-dimensional surface or manifold AS A BOUNDARY for a 4-dimensional 'volumar' or space container one dimension higher than the manifold
    [8:13:17 PM] Emeth: Consciousness must be a physicalisable parameter
    [8:13:57 PM] Emeth: This was the subject matter of this JCER publication, you know about and which you forwarded to your Slovenian friend
    [8:14:15 PM] Emeth: I can explain it, but it becomes technical and mathematical
    [8:14:56 PM] Emeth: Basically consciousness is a 'fifth' fundamental energy interaction
    [8:14:59 PM] Hades 88: hmnja
    [8:15:19 PM] Emeth: It has its own gauge parameter or 'particle' in the RestMassPhoton or RMP
    [8:15:35 PM] Emeth: It is this which is the 'fathermother' of the Higgs Boson etc etc
    [8:16:28 PM] Emeth: It is however physical in that it assumes the characteristics of a volume of space angularly accelerated
    [8:17:05 PM] Emeth: So jump into a bathtub with a precise amount of water in it and measure the water you displace
    [8:17:22 PM] Emeth: This displacement is a volume of space and this space itself is 'conscious'
    [8:17:36 PM] Emeth: And made up of RMPs
    [8:18:31 PM] Emeth: You then can use the Big Bang wormholes to calculate a summation integral of POTENTIAL consciousness interactions within this consciousness space
    [8:19:40 PM] Emeth: This for example means that an ant crawling on a leaf in the garden has such a consciousness summation with the history of the ant and the leaf and the air molecules and the sand etc etc all adding to this consciousness space
    [8:19:49 PM] Hades 88: does mainstream science do that? do they measure subconsciousnes?
    [8:19:54 PM] Emeth: It is real physics Rok but dragon science atm
    [8:19:58 PM] Emeth: No
    [8:20:12 PM] Emeth: But they are on the track of doing just this
    [8:20:32 PM] Hades 88: so it is not exactly an officially established fact then
    [8:20:40 PM] Emeth: And this is how all advanced physics works. It is stochastic and differential and integral
    [8:21:22 PM] Emeth: It is as 'established' as Einstein's papers were, before they became widely disemminated and known
    [8:22:30 PM] Emeth: Roger Penrose for example from Oxford and Chambers and other such researchers into consciousness would know this rather well
    [8:23:11 PM] Hades 88: penrose...only know of penrose stairs
    [8:23:33 PM] Emeth: They would not call it RMP but give this some other label and perhaps would not know that it is VolumexAngular Acceleration as a new fundamental physical unit as the StarCoulomb for Magnetic Charge
    [8:24:00 PM] Emeth: Yes he is world famous for his Penrose Tiles
    [8:24:18 PM] Emeth: But his main focus nowadays is to find a physical nature for consciousness
    [8:24:45 PM] Emeth: He uses microtubules in the brain and the Fibonacci's as well
    [8:25:19 PM] Emeth: Penrose tiles are Fibonacci sequenced as a fivefolded quasi symmetry and which becomes the maximised genetic data compression dynamics of Nature itself
    [8:51:55 PM] Emeth:
    Religious views [edit]Penrose does not hold to any religious doctrine,[24] and refers to himself as an atheist.[25] In the film A Brief History of Time, he said, "I think I would say that the universe has a purpose, it's not somehow just there by chance ... some people, I think, take the view that the universe is just there and it runs along – it's a bit like it just sort of computes, and we happen somehow by accident to find ourselves in this thing. But I don't think that's a very fruitful or helpful way of looking at the universe, I think that there is something much deeper about it."[26] Penrose is a Distinguished Supporter of the British Humanist Association.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose

    [8:52:33 PM] Emeth: I would agree with Penrose regarding the purposefulness
    [8:54:22 PM] Emeth: As you can see from this wiki entry, Penrose's ideas on consciousness are not mainstream as yet, being an attempt to dealgorithmitize the physicality of it
    [8:55:02 PM] Emeth: Iow, Penrose does NOT believe, that computers can mimick the human brain and mind, which many others do (such as Minski)
    [8:55:25 PM] Hades 88: have u ever emailed penrose?
    [8:56:17 PM] Emeth: I am more inclined to accomodate a more expansive version of the Penrose-Hameroff theory in reducing the microtubulus to their parts of the genome coupling templates
    [8:56:50 PM] Emeth: No. gave up tryin g to get to any of the 'well known' researchers a long time ago
    [8:57:14 PM] Hades 88: i ll try to email him ur article then
    [8:57:18 PM] Hades 88: ur paper
    [8:57:37 PM] Emeth: I could not even get past the secretary of Nassim Haramein and he is a Nabser
    [8:57:49 PM] Emeth: Good luck Rok
    [8:58:28 PM] Hades 88:
    Dear Mr.Penrose
    I decided I should dare to intrude and bother you with a request.
    There is an 18 page paper attached to this email. I am not the author. The paper was published in the Journal of Consciousness Exploration & Research.
    The request is that you devote a portion of your time to view this paper. That and nothing more.

    [8:58:52 PM] Emeth: Very nice request
    [8:59:21 PM] Emeth: Perhaps you should add the above mentioning of his name in this chat to catch his secretaries' interest
    [8:59:48 PM] Hades 88: people dont like long emails...esp when out of time
    [9:00:14 PM] Hades 88: this includes secretary personel
    [9:00:44 PM] Emeth: I do not care for acknowlewdgements Rok
    I am past this now
    [9:04:18 PM] Hades 88: lets call it expanding the sience and not acknowle...
    [9:05:06 PM] Emeth: True and when the times are ripe, the hidden things appear
    [9:05:39 PM] Emeth: And I know some times are ripe, but not all times might be right for the harvests
    [9:06:55 PM] Emeth: I agree of perhaps acting at times in a somewhat neglectful and not maximised manner with respect to potentials

    email.

    [9:07:11 PM] *** Hades 88 sent email.JPG ***
    [9:08:40 PM] Emeth: This COULD trigger his interest yes
    [9:08:49 PM] Emeth: IF he ever sees this
    [9:08:57 PM] Hades 88: i added a bit of convo to the end
    [9:09:03 PM] Hades 88: but not too much
    [9:09:20 PM] Emeth: You know how many 'new Einsteins' are out there and who know better than the academics?
    [9:09:25 PM] Hades 88: it was sent to Roger.Penrose@maths.ox.ac.uk
    [9:10:03 PM] Emeth: In 2004-2006 I was engaged in many 'battles with the Einstein bashers'
    [9:10:28 PM] Emeth: Now you have the Keshe's and O'Collins and similar morons doing the same.
    I got tired of it after a while
    [9:12:50 PM] Emeth: If the secretary sees his name, she might take a second view. As said there would be hundreds of quacks trying to ask someone like Penrose to lend them his ears and comment on their 'ideas'
    [9:13:05 PM] Hades 88: yes that is the problem
    [9:13:16 PM] Emeth: This is why the secretaries are asked to FILTER all mail
    [9:13:21 PM] Emeth: Indeed
    [9:13:28 PM] Hades 88: and if the secretary has her cunt in a bad mood...it can also destroy everything
    [9:13:49 PM] Hades 88: how can a secretary filter what she does not undertsand
    [9:13:54 PM] Emeth: Many quacks look at my stuff and consider me some academic , working at some campus
    [9:14:22 PM] Emeth: So I too received many 'ideas' and I commented on some, I found more reasonable
    [9:14:41 PM] Emeth: Indeed, as said I could not get a direct reply from Haramein
    [9:14:57 PM] Emeth: Because he is a Nabser with a big fanbase and a big head
    [9:15:28 PM] Emeth: I did analyse him thoroughly so and made a thread on the forums on the details
    [9:16:05 PM] Emeth: But I am no Roger Penrose with work committments and so I can indeed comment, if I feel to do so
    [9:16:08 PM] Emeth: He can't
    [9:16:19 PM] Hades 88: well i sent penrose a paper that got published so it is much more thna some idea
    [9:16:41 PM] Emeth: Yes, JCER is mainstream
    [9:16:58 PM] Emeth: But not mainstream mainstream if you see what I mean
    [9:17:14 PM] Emeth: Huping is a 'god believer'
    [9:17:30 PM] Emeth: He believes in a 'Quantum God'
    [9:17:58 PM] Emeth: But is a qualified mathematician-physicist from China living in New York
    With his academia wife
    [9:20:20 PM] Emeth: Thanks anyway for doing this
    [9:20:36 PM] Hades 88: do u know any other main stream guy that deals with this?
    [9:20:44 PM] Hades 88: that asian guy?
    [9:21:07 PM] Emeth: Huping
    [9:21:21 PM] Hades 88: michio kaku
    [9:21:23 PM] Hades 88: huping?
    [9:21:35 PM] Emeth: He is the main editor of JCER. Trouble there is, that JCER has gone commercial as far as I know
    [9:21:38 PM] Hades 88: humping?
    [9:21:58 PM] Emeth: He is too far up the ladder of the popularity
    [9:22:02 PM] Hades 88: well if he is the editor of jcer...would be a bit odd to send him a paper publishe din jcer
    [9:22:26 PM] Emeth: I know you meant Kaku
    [9:23:03 PM] Emeth: Rok it doesn't matter. Once the word gets out it would be automatic
    [9:23:35 PM] Emeth: This is a rather interwoven and 'cut throat' international science community
    [9:24:18 PM] Emeth: I did try recently to contact a New Zealand cosmologist, whose ideas on the 'Dark Energy' dovetail somewhat with Thuban
    [9:25:03 PM] Emeth: I really thought that David Wiltshire, looking for support for his 'fringe' yet sound ideas, would take notice
    [9:25:12 PM] Emeth: I never heard from him, nor his secretary
    [9:25:44 PM] Emeth: So I dont know, if he ever saw my emails or not
    [9:26:24 PM] Emeth: I made a copy of that corresponmdence on the forum
    [9:27:20 PM] Hades 88: well it was "worth a try"
    [9:28:22 PM] Emeth: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=F2CFF19F-A99B-4551-9908-3283C7E892AB&fid=5ED5759D-A49E-4A30-8B3C-66CE5510131B&lastp=1
    Look here for this letter. It is scroll down
    [9:32:13 PM] Hades 88:

    David M. Rountree, AES
    Director - Chief Science Advisor
    Scientific Paranormal Investigative
    Research Information and Technology
    S.P.I.R.I.T. - LAB
    www.spinvestigations.org
    David's book "Paranormal Technology" - The new paradigm in paranormal field manuals
    this?

    [9:32:53 PM] Emeth: No, the bearded bloke above is a real physicist at a New Zealand University - Christchurch
    [9:35:10 PM] Emeth: The main motto of the secretaries is this Rok and I know it.
    "Any mail NOT from some other academic address like another campus is quack mail and is to be thrown in the recycle bin"
    [9:42:07 PM] Emeth: And I dont blame anyone for following such a policy of censorship and discrimination in view of an all too pervasive Nabs culture and science quackery; though I am one of the 'sufferers' of such judgement as the few amongst the many
    [9:46:12 PM] Hades 88: i wish my headache would stop
    [9:46:43 PM] Emeth: Have some rest, I will sign off now and go to bed
    [9:48:03 PM] Hades 88: gn
    [9:48:06 PM] Emeth: Dreaming of DragonQueenBees is all I can core with. But this means I have no 3D problems with them Rok
    [9:48:21 PM] Hades 88: dont we all
    [9:48:38 PM] Emeth: Indeed, merci again for your efforts.

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 29th 2013

    Conversations on the Logos - Monsanto, Bees, Silent Flutes and Nabser News

    [4:22:35 PM-Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 -+10UCT]
    Sirius 17: hey tony
    [4:22:46 PM] Sirius 17: how are you?
    [4:23:34 PM] Emeth: ordinary I guess
    [4:23:51 PM] Sirius 17: everything ok?
    [4:23:54 PM] Emeth: yes
    [4:24:03 PM] Emeth: Why are you asking?
    [4:24:25 PM] Sirius 17: should i not ask? because i care about you
    [4:24:47 PM] Emeth: Oh ok then, I thought you might have some issue
    [4:24:51 PM] Sirius 17: and i haven't talked to you for a while
    [4:25:01 PM] Emeth: I talked to Rok the other day
    [4:25:16 PM] Sirius 17: no, everythng is ok here i guess
    [4:25:28 PM] Sirius 17: little bit of tension
    [4:26:10 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i saw where you talked to him
    [4:26:35 PM] Emeth: No news otherwise
    [4:27:21 PM] Emeth: The closer we proceed in 2013, the less Thuban etc is important imo
    [4:27:24 PM] Sirius 17: i am feeling a bit better now from this sinus stuff i had
    [4:27:37 PM] Emeth: Yes I recovered from the headcold
    [4:27:37 PM] Sirius 17: are you getting over your cold?
    [4:28:05 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean by that, its less important?
    [4:29:17 PM] Emeth: No more work, simple as that
    [4:29:31 PM] Emeth: You guys can live out your dramas
    [4:30:04 PM] Emeth: Templates will exist and this should suffice for the Logos to do something eventually
    [4:30:13 PM] Sirius 17: i am trying live drama free lol
    [4:31:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes i feel they are and even though it seems as if not much is happening, it is
    [4:32:39 PM] Sirius 17: i can see the undercurrents and changes happening, it is subtle but they are there
    [4:32:46 PM] Sirius 17: what you mentioned to Rok
    [4:33:45 PM] Sirius 17: i feel the sisterhood
    [4:34:38 PM] Emeth: Yes me too
    [4:35:09 PM] Emeth: Very subtle yes and it is best to have no expectations to be able to live your old live out imo now
    [4:38:09 PM] Sirius 17: i have no expectations, just my dreams and hopes, i am not disappointed in anything really. i still have faith that things will change and i feel that contact is imminent actually...
    [4:38:29 PM] Sirius 17: i feel like i am in a state of flux
    [4:38:45 PM] Sirius 17: its hard to really guage things right now
    [4:38:57 PM] Sirius 17: but i feel things
    [4:39:13 PM] Emeth: I really hope that you are right here
    [4:39:39 PM] Emeth: I know from July it is kinda 'lawful' but dont really expect anything
    [4:40:09 PM] Sirius 17: i expect something inward to occur first
    [4:40:24 PM] Emeth: Syria is escalating now with Russia giving weapons to Assad and the Westerners to the 'rebels'
    [4:40:25 PM] Sirius 17: like the ET experience
    [4:40:39 PM] Emeth: It is such a mess human mindedness will be unable to resolve
    [4:40:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:41:06 PM] Emeth: Oh I am sure internal changes are big and profound already
    [4:41:16 PM] Sirius 17: oh they are
    [4:41:54 PM] Emeth: But this does not stop the suffering of so many people and animals Raven
    [4:41:55 PM] Sirius 17: can see it in our own little microcosim here
    [4:42:14 PM] Sirius 17: no it doesn't
    [4:42:37 PM] Sirius 17: but these days are shortened for a reason
    [4:42:41 PM] Emeth: People are going crazy as you saw in London, Boston and France and now Syria and Egypt massacres
    [4:42:52 PM] Sirius 17: it will get worse yet even stll
    [4:42:58 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [4:43:06 PM] Sirius 17: i told Xeia that we wll watch the world collapse at our feet
    [4:43:22 PM] Sirius 17: i still feel that
    [4:43:57 PM] Sirius 17: its like a mass crucifixion in a way
    [4:44:11 PM] Emeth: As we know, IF there is ANYTHING to the scriptures, THEN something will and must occur, when the times are 'fulfilled'
    [4:44:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes and everything is on full tilt
    [4:44:45 PM] Emeth: Xeia and Rok, nevertheless their aspirations do act in a predictable even narcisstic manner at times
    [4:45:12 PM] Emeth: They cant see the cosmic in their individualisms
    [4:45:25 PM] Emeth: Not many humans can
    [4:45:26 PM] Sirius 17: not fully no
    [4:45:40 PM] Sirius 17: even we see through a dark glass
    [4:45:52 PM] Emeth: We all get 'sidetracked' by the personal
    [4:46:14 PM] Emeth: Yes, but being half dead like me helps a little
    [4:46:28 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i know the feeling
    [4:46:35 PM] Sirius 17: i am half dead myself
    [4:46:37 PM] Sirius 17: bodywise
    [4:47:14 PM] Emeth: Well we carry little vanity now
    [4:47:47 PM] Sirius 17: i think this ET is my maleness
    [4:48:01 PM] Sirius 17: i always felt Allisiam there
    [4:48:06 PM] Sirius 17: and now i feel him
    [4:48:12 PM] Emeth: Good
    [4:48:20 PM] Emeth: I want my ET femme now
    [4:48:55 PM] Sirius 17: i want to trade places lol
    [4:48:59 PM] Emeth: There seems to be a young-old synthesis occurring Raven. I can say this
    [4:49:13 PM] Sirius 17: be on that ship
    [4:49:49 PM] Emeth: Debbie's waveform has encompasssed Lassie and MI as old Baab waveform seems to be breaking out again
    [4:49:51 PM] Sirius 17: do you feel any physical changes at all?
    [4:50:03 PM] Emeth: I breathe better
    [4:50:31 PM] Sirius 17: i feel stronger
    [4:50:42 PM] Sirius 17: in mind mostly
    [4:51:02 PM] Sirius 17: physically i am feeling better, but i know what need to do
    [4:51:06 PM] Emeth: I move a little better, doing the stomach excercises, so i seem to have arrested the HSP deterioration
    [4:51:18 PM] Emeth: But my legs are weak and my nervous system is shot
    [4:51:28 PM] Sirius 17: you still taking b12?
    [4:51:45 PM] Emeth: The nurse gives me a shot every 3 months yes
    [4:52:00 PM] Sirius 17: good
    [4:52:18 PM] Emeth: You need to not smoke and excersise period
    [4:52:26 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [4:52:31 PM] Emeth: Then you will improve a lot physically
    [4:52:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have seen it
    [4:52:49 PM] Sirius 17: i quit for most of the day yesterday
    [4:53:01 PM] Sirius 17: immediately was breathing better
    [4:53:06 PM] Sirius 17: feeling better
    [4:53:10 PM] Emeth: From 2014 you should be able to lose weight
    [4:53:31 PM] Sirius 17: well i hope sooner
    [4:53:39 PM] Emeth: I feel your water retention is an effect of your smoking
    [4:53:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i dont drink enough water
    [4:53:55 PM] Emeth: Internal balancings
    [4:54:23 PM] Emeth: You know so much about diet and foods. It is a shame you are addicted
    [4:54:25 PM] Sirius 17: i have been forcing myself to drink water
    [4:55:02 PM] Sirius 17: well my bodies way to cope with stress is to gain weight
    [4:55:25 PM] Sirius 17: but i have helped it out eating the wrong things
    [4:55:35 PM] Sirius 17: i am too carb sensitive
    [4:55:38 PM] Emeth: Look at yourself in your 20s; this can be reattained
    [4:56:09 PM] Emeth: I dont buy much of those diet rules
    [4:56:12 PM] Sirius 17: before i met James i hardly ever drank soda
    [4:56:25 PM] Emeth: Your body should know what it needs and desires
    [4:56:40 PM] Emeth: Metabolisms
    [4:56:45 PM] Sirius 17: it desires sex and when it doesn't get it, it wants food lol
    [4:57:01 PM] Emeth: Yes this is most likely true
    [4:57:08 PM] Emeth: True dragons are supersexed
    [4:57:18 PM] Sirius 17: i am suppressed atm
    [4:57:35 PM] Sirius 17: i get horny less and less
    [4:57:49 PM] Emeth: yes and I know how suppressed MI was all her life
    [4:58:22 PM] Emeth: This is a burden for you now being in an unfulfilled phys-phys
    [4:58:30 PM] Sirius 17: i almost kind of hope i dont get in this summer
    [4:58:34 PM] Sirius 17: to the program
    [4:58:38 PM] Sirius 17: i need a break
    [4:58:47 PM] Emeth: No news?
    [4:58:47 PM] Sirius 17: to focus on getting well
    [4:58:52 PM] Sirius 17: no nothing so far
    [4:59:02 PM] Emeth: What does this mean?
    [4:59:13 PM] Sirius 17: but they dont start until July 15th
    [4:59:31 PM] Sirius 17: so its still early and the other programs are sending out letters and such
    [4:59:44 PM] Emeth: Ok I dont know the systems here
    [5:00:07 PM] Sirius 17: well she said it could happen right up to the last minute
    [5:00:31 PM] Sirius 17: but they will notify me for sure
    [5:01:17 PM] Emeth: Well you will have more time for this past July as said
    [5:01:51 PM] Emeth: I dont know if it is better to do it this year or next year
    [5:02:43 PM] Sirius 17: well better for me financially to do it now
    [5:03:09 PM] Sirius 17: if i wait until next year i will have no unemployment left
    [5:03:11 PM] Sirius 17: no income
    [5:03:26 PM] Sirius 17: so i would be on pure student loans
    [5:03:39 PM] Emeth: Really good to be dependent on those systems
    [5:04:05 PM] Emeth: Student loans to pay back in employment?
    [5:04:08 PM] Sirius 17: well i worked many years in the system, i paid my dues
    [5:04:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will have to pay them back
    [5:04:38 PM] Emeth: As a taxation component?
    [5:04:40 PM] Sirius 17: i owe atm
    [5:04:48 PM] Emeth: Right
    [5:04:58 PM] Sirius 17: low interest rate
    [5:05:04 PM] Sirius 17: guarenteed loans is what they are
    [5:05:10 PM] Sirius 17: 10 year repayment
    [5:05:33 PM] Sirius 17: i dont have to start paying it back until i quit school and get back to work though
    [5:05:38 PM] Emeth: The moneychangers in the Jeruslem temple at Jesus time
    [5:05:49 PM] Sirius 17: unfortunately yes
    [5:06:03 PM] Sirius 17: i have invested in worse things though then my own education
    [5:06:11 PM] Emeth: Yes but this is the way the old world functions
    [5:06:29 PM] Emeth: It wont change the human way
    [5:06:38 PM] Sirius 17: so i feel its worth it anyhow
    [5:06:51 PM] Sirius 17: i will continue to have to spend money in this fucked up system
    [5:07:02 PM] Emeth: Well, I am no better being reliant on the pension-disability system
    [5:07:06 PM] Sirius 17: why not spend it on my ability to do something i want to do
    [5:07:18 PM] Emeth: Better here, than in Africa or the middle east
    [5:07:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes and it is my obligation i feel to not spit in the face of what i was fortunate to be born into while people starve
    [5:08:01 PM] Sirius 17: i could of been one of them
    [5:08:08 PM] Emeth: Exactly
    [5:08:18 PM] Sirius 17: they would if they could do what i am doing
    [5:08:28 PM] Sirius 17: and one day they will
    [5:08:36 PM] Sirius 17: for free
    [5:08:53 PM] Emeth: We are actually responsible to use our brains and think of better ways, because we dont have war- and day to day survival pressures like most do
    [5:09:03 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [5:09:51 PM] Sirius 17: barbara put up a link on people eating mud cakes in Haiti
    [5:09:58 PM] Emeth: And looking at innocent children in the warzones makes me say, that the Logos must do something soon to end the discriminations
    [5:10:15 PM] Sirius 17: and they are happy to eat them just to have something in the stomach
    [5:10:31 PM] Emeth: Yes they still suffer from the Haiti earthquake of 2010
    [5:10:44 PM] Sirius 17: its unbelievable the level of starvation
    [5:10:51 PM] Sirius 17: and that is just haiti
    [5:11:03 PM] Emeth: And morons like Assad drop bombs and chemical weapons on thier own people
    [5:11:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes something must change to stop this madness
    [5:11:36 PM] Emeth: This is why to me the timeline is all decisive
    [5:11:59 PM] Sirius 17: and meanwhile big corporations like Monsanto are taking over the food
    [5:12:12 PM] Emeth: I cant see some new wanna be reformer decoding the bible in years to come, trying to make an end of it, like we have done
    [5:12:16 PM] Sirius 17: killing everyone with their GMO seeds
    [5:12:25 PM] Sirius 17: this is the true tragidy
    [5:12:36 PM] Emeth: They patent the water and the air soon, if they could
    [5:12:41 PM] Sirius 17: what this fucking GMO shit is doing to the bees and food supply
    [5:12:53 PM] Sirius 17: oh they patent life itself
    [5:12:56 PM] Sirius 17: bastards
    [5:13:10 PM] Emeth: Yes they meddle with things they dont understand
    [5:13:44 PM] Emeth: Only holistic approaches can help the global environments not 'tailor made' genetic manipulations
    [5:14:03 PM] Sirius 17: 800 scientists have sent letters of protest to world governments asking them to halt Monsantos GMO crops, saying that it will create a food apocaylpse
    [5:14:14 PM] Sirius 17: falling on deaf ears
    [5:14:21 PM] Emeth: But then you got the Nabs people hijacking the 'environmental friendlies'
    [5:14:36 PM] Emeth: It is too late Raven
    [5:14:47 PM] Sirius 17: http://naturalsociety.com/800-scientists-global-gmo-experiment-stop/
    [5:15:00 PM] Sirius 17: how many more need to say stop
    [5:15:10 PM] Sirius 17: 1000, 10,000, 20,000
    [5:15:16 PM] Emeth: Big business rules the roost
    [5:15:23 PM] Sirius 17: its so redculious now
    [5:15:33 PM] Emeth: Investors are the new gods and not the Annunaki lol
    [5:15:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:16:03 PM] Sirius 17: the wealth of the world has been transfered to the few
    [5:16:23 PM] Sirius 17: right in front of everyones eyes
    [5:17:01 PM] Sirius 17:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gP6rny-E1Cw
    [5:17:10 PM] Sirius 17: btw this is a good video that carol posted
    [5:17:26 PM] Sirius 17: this woman knows wtf is going on
    [5:17:52 PM] Sirius 17: from an economic standpoint
    [5:18:00 PM] Emeth: Many thinking people do
    [5:18:02 PM] Sirius 17: she worked for Bush
    [5:18:17 PM] Emeth: More and more of this is coming out now
    [5:18:18 PM] Sirius 17: she saw the whole takeover
    [5:18:29 PM] Sirius 17: and the plan
    [5:18:31 PM] Emeth: It is global dear not just USA
    [5:18:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes she talks about the global economy
    [5:18:56 PM] Emeth: The great 'evil' is an international money racket, playing with the currencies
    [5:19:20 PM] Sirius 17: the worst she said is patenting life and seeds, the food
    [5:19:32 PM] Emeth: Like Russians putting tjheir billions into banks in Cyprus (and Switzerland)
    [5:19:41 PM] Sirius 17: the most dangerous
    [5:19:41 PM] Sirius 17: there are already food riots going on
    [5:19:46 PM] Emeth: Yes it is science abused
    [5:19:47 PM] Sirius 17: but the news says nothing about it of course
    [5:20:04 PM] Emeth: News are big business owned by the oligarchs

    [5:20:18 PM] Sirius 17: http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/russia-warns-obama-monsanto
    [5:20:28 PM] Sirius 17: barbara shared this but could not verify it
    [5:21:35 PM] Emeth: Yes and this bee dying has been going on for a decade or so now
    [5:21:53 PM] Sirius 17: and America is implicit in helping Monsanto
    [5:22:00 PM] Sirius 17: legislating genocide
    [5:22:17 PM] Sirius 17: most of the EU has blocked them
    [5:23:17 PM] Sirius 17: this last fiasco was attached and snuck in on a house funding bill
    [5:23:21 PM] Sirius 17: no way to repeal it
    [5:23:35 PM] Sirius 17: without causing economic calimity
    [5:23:42 PM] Sirius 17: this is how evil this is
    [5:24:02 PM] Sirius 17:
    On 26 March, Obama quietly signed this “Monsanto Protection Act” into law thus ensuring the American people have no recourse against this bio-tech giant as they fall ill by the tens of millions, and many millions will surely end up dying in what this MRNE report calls the greatest agricultural apocalypse in human history as over 90% of feral (wild) bee population in the US has already died out, and up to 80% of domestic bees have died out too.

    [5:24:07 PM] Emeth: Yes you dont fuck with Nature's way of pollination
    [5:24:25 PM] Sirius 17: and they fucking know the cause too
    [5:24:35 PM] Sirius 17: they have 800 scientists world wide screaming at them
    [5:24:49 PM] Emeth: This is actually rather significant
    [5:25:08 PM] Emeth: And why does Obama not act on this?
    [5:25:12 PM] Sirius 17: i wonder if they freeze dried bees in cryo for when they are all dead they can try to bring them back
    [5:25:20 PM] Sirius 17: he signed it into law
    [5:25:22 PM] Emeth: Idiots
    [5:25:25 PM] Sirius 17: no recourse on Monsanto
    [5:25:38 PM] Sirius 17: they forced his hand by sneaking it in on a funding bill
    [5:25:58 PM] Sirius 17: he had no choice but to sign the damn thing or face economic consequences
    [5:26:08 PM] Emeth: Yes political expediencies
    [5:26:16 PM] Sirius 17: he could not veto a house bugdet bill
    [5:26:29 PM] Sirius 17: MONEY
    [5:26:40 PM] Sirius 17: bill gates is a Monsanto supporter
    [5:26:48 PM] Sirius 17: we are talking billions
    [5:27:00 PM] Emeth: How long the scientists say this will take to pollination catastrophy?
    [5:27:05 PM] Sirius 17: and he being the science guy thinks they will save the world from starvation
    [5:27:17 PM] Sirius 17: well some bees appear to be immune
    [5:27:34 PM] Sirius 17: but they confiscated some hives where a guy was doing research in Indana
    [5:27:43 PM] Emeth: Gates simply cannot see past his 'business models'
    [5:27:43 PM] Sirius 17: took all his bees and killed the queens
    [5:28:05 PM] Sirius 17: he was trying to figure out what made some of the colonys immune
    [5:28:42 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.globalresearch.ca/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees-resistant-to-monsantos-roundup-kills-remaining-queens/5336210
    [5:29:15 PM] Emeth: Amazing ignorance
    [5:29:50 PM] Sirius 17: isn't it?
    [5:30:12 PM] Sirius 17: and people think global protests will do jack shit to stop this insanity?
    [5:31:20 PM] Sirius 17: this research with the bees has been going on for years now
    [5:31:30 PM] Sirius 17: its not like they didnt know
    [5:31:35 PM] Emeth: I agree with Rok there, it is mostly manipulated and setup in the demonstrations
    [5:31:48 PM] Sirius 17: and more and more evidence is pointing to GMO crops and pesticides
    [5:31:56 PM] Emeth: The novelty are the young people sharing on social media and not them organised events
    [5:32:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes the major media is loosing readership
    [5:32:38 PM] Sirius 17: this woman comes right out and says that the internet may be what saves us from the insanity
    [5:32:59 PM] Sirius 17: because people are able to follow well documented non-mainstream news now
    [5:33:12 PM] Sirius 17: and they can upload the documents and proof
    [5:33:18 PM] Emeth: In a way it is the 'gospel must be published in all nations, before the end will come' thing
    [5:33:20 PM] Sirius 17: major network media does not do this
    [5:33:25 PM] Sirius 17: they are loosing crediblity
    [5:33:31 PM] Emeth: About time
    [5:33:56 PM] Sirius 17: well i can see it on FB
    [5:34:04 PM] Sirius 17: even though its still nabs infested a lot
    [5:34:22 PM] Sirius 17: the academia types are spreading the correct news
    [5:34:26 PM] Sirius 17: intellectuals
    [5:34:35 PM] Emeth: You wont be able to eliminate the Nabs until contact
    [5:34:46 PM] Sirius 17: is all become like a grassroots information base
    [5:35:00 PM] Sirius 17: still a lot of discernment and sorting
    [5:35:03 PM] Sirius 17: to be done
    [5:35:09 PM] Sirius 17: but the truth is available
    [5:35:10 PM] Emeth: Yes the skeptics are doing their things despite not getting the deeper agendas
    [5:35:14 PM] Sirius 17: and documented
    [5:35:35 PM] Sirius 17: and so our data fits into that as well
    [5:35:52 PM] Emeth: The TLTR is itself a code Raven
    [5:35:52 PM] Sirius 17: people want the truth
    [5:36:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes but there are people out there willing to read it all
    [5:36:23 PM] Sirius 17: very few
    [5:36:30 PM] Sirius 17: but its available see
    [5:36:36 PM] Sirius 17: not hidden
    [5:36:48 PM] Sirius 17: closed off in some museum
    [5:36:59 PM] Sirius 17: that only scholars can read
    [5:37:18 PM] Sirius 17: which is how the GOT was until recent years
    [5:37:19 PM] Emeth: Yes the decoding keys are clearly given in the TLTR
    [5:37:50 PM] Emeth: And you know the only thing that really matters?
    [5:37:50 PM] Sirius 17: but what this woman said in this video was really interesting to me
    [5:38:10 PM] Emeth: Yes I listened to it
    [5:38:16 PM] Emeth: mortgages etc
    [5:38:23 PM] Sirius 17: she said as people realise that crime does not pay and cannot pay as well as transparency and doing the right thing, people will stop investing in crime
    [5:38:30 PM] Emeth: That there is a New Option
    [5:38:38 PM] Emeth: Of fulfilment of the codes
    [5:38:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes its a true economy one that supports the whole instead of the few
    [5:38:59 PM] Emeth: And this is factual - it COULD be the Logos Truth
    [5:39:07 PM] Sirius 17: i see it as a transitional economy until we finally do go moneyless
    [5:39:21 PM] Sirius 17: but true abundance for all
    [5:39:23 PM] Emeth: You are talking about something else, never mind
    [5:39:32 PM] Sirius 17: she calls for a release of all the tech and such
    [5:39:52 PM] Emeth: Yes, but all this is old world
    [5:40:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes well we know what the new option is and it has little to do with money
    [5:40:23 PM] Emeth: Much of this will become superceeded, all those Keynesian etc economics model and law enforcement etc etc
    [5:40:39 PM] Sirius 17: but someone like her speaking the truth about what is being done is good , wake them up somewhat you know
    [5:40:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes its all bs
    [5:41:17 PM] Emeth: And who listens to her?
    [5:41:24 PM] Emeth: Nabsers like Carol
    [5:41:47 PM] Sirius 17: but i see things like this and the way all of the evil in the world is being exposed and i just KNOW its going down for real this time. This is proof we are in a huge paradigm shift
    [5:41:54 PM] Emeth: Carol believes in Nibiru and evil ETs
    [5:42:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
    [5:42:17 PM] Emeth: So with an audience like that, all the sense of this woman flies out the window
    [5:42:33 PM] Sirius 17: i turned my poet group and some other intellectuals onto this video
    [5:42:35 PM] Emeth: I mean as percentage of the 'listeners'
    [5:42:50 PM] Sirius 17: directly from you tube and not MOA
    [5:42:57 PM] Sirius 17: because yeah carol is wacko
    [5:43:46 PM] Sirius 17: but even the nabs groups have become news agencies by default
    [5:44:00 PM] Sirius 17: because even though they tie in the nabs, they do spread this stuff around
    [5:44:12 PM] Sirius 17: and the people who can truly decern , they know
    [5:44:46 PM] Sirius 17: i see this is what the Logos is doing, it is using all this to unveil it all
    [5:45:04 PM] Sirius 17: even though its mixed in with the NABS
    [5:45:16 PM] Sirius 17: the great revealing is happening
    [5:45:25 PM] Emeth: Yes they are news disseminators
    [5:45:31 PM] Emeth: Carol is good at that
    [5:45:52 PM] Sirius 17: so yeah, even in her ignorance she is playing a role here
    [5:46:08 PM] Sirius 17: she is a news nut
    [5:46:18 PM] Emeth: Yes, I always liked her enthusiasm to share news about disasters and predictions
    [5:46:41 PM] Emeth: But she cant discern and hides behind quasi science
    [5:46:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes as most of them can't
    [5:47:12 PM] Sirius 17: but when it all comes out in the end, they cannot deny they were told
    [5:47:17 PM] Sirius 17: shown
    [5:47:27 PM] Emeth: Yep, this is what the scriptures say
    [5:47:27 PM] Sirius 17: this will be cosmic justice
    [5:47:34 PM] Sirius 17: because by their own hand will they be judged
    [5:47:48 PM] Emeth: Ezekiels' burden
    [5:48:00 PM] Sirius 17: i can see it all unfolding
    [5:48:08 PM] Emeth: He knows all his words will be dismissed
    [5:48:28 PM] Emeth: But is told to say them anyway as testimony
    [5:48:30 PM] Sirius 17: so when Rok says he cannot see this, i just shake my head
    [5:48:37 PM] Emeth: This is what we have done for 3 years now
    [5:48:43 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [5:49:00 PM] Sirius 17: and we have not deluded anyone Tony
    [5:49:07 PM] Sirius 17: we have given the truth
    [5:49:12 PM] Sirius 17: as it was shown to us
    [5:49:20 PM] Sirius 17: what more can we do?
    [5:49:20 PM] Emeth: He is too young and inexperienced, brainwashed about religion in traditions and so forth
    [5:49:56 PM] Sirius 17: Xeia is right, he needs to get out of his slovenian cave an live a little
    [5:50:04 PM] Emeth: As said, 2013 is the last year for Thuban as in the old world
    [5:50:44 PM] Sirius 17: the old world is dying
    [5:50:48 PM] Sirius 17: on the way out
    [5:50:50 PM] Sirius 17: as i see it
    [5:51:21 PM] Sirius 17: we are witnessing it
    [5:51:24 PM] Sirius 17: living it
    [5:51:30 PM] Sirius 17: between worlds
    [5:51:40 PM] Sirius 17: one foot in the old and the other in the new
    [5:51:49 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [5:52:45 PM] Sirius 17:

    (71) Jesus said, "I shall destroy this house, and no one will be able to build it [...]."

    [5:53:19 PM] Sirius 17: i have been thinking about this one a lot
    [5:54:05 PM] Sirius 17: the division is being dismantled
    [5:54:23 PM] Sirius 17: the millstone cast
    [5:55:10 PM] Sirius 17: and it does seem like a distruction
    [5:55:17 PM] Sirius 17: in every way
    [5:55:56 PM] Sirius 17: likely why     Xeia and Rok have been having the troubles they are
    [5:56:18 PM] Sirius 17: because something very fundamental is changing
    [5:56:34 PM] Sirius 17: the cornerstone is being laid
    [5:56:58 PM] Sirius 17: i just really sense this Tony
    [5:57:09 PM] Sirius 17: the building of the new world is happening now
    [5:57:13 PM] Emeth: Yes, in Rev. 18 a millstone shatters the false images
    [5:57:16 PM] Sirius 17: as this one is being decimated
    [5:57:35 PM] Emeth: And this was April 25th, when the triple eclipses began
    [5:57:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes and the old ways will NOT work anymore
    [5:57:54 PM] Emeth: This many can see now
    [5:57:57 PM] Sirius 17: they only bring division, and death
    [5:58:06 PM] Emeth: But it is too late for human solutions
    [5:58:33 PM] Sirius 17: yes, time to grow up
    [5:58:49 PM] Sirius 17: for the few that can
    [6:01:35 PM] Sirius 17:

    (76) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a merchant who had a consignment of merchandise and who discovered a pearl. That merchant was shrewd. He sold the merchandise and bought the pearl alone for himself. You too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to devour and no worm destroys."

    [6:01:41 PM] Sirius 17: i like this one too
    [6:03:03 PM] Sirius 17:

    (77) Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the all. From me did the all come forth, and unto me did the all extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."

    [6:03:08 PM] Sirius 17: followed by this one
    [6:03:57 PM] Sirius 17: This is the core that I submit to and try to please with my whole being

    [6:09:48 PM] Sirius 17:

    (29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."
    (30) Jesus said, "Where there are three gods, they are gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him."

    [6:09:58 PM] Sirius 17: today is the 29th, 30th for you?
    [6:13:58 PM] Emeth: No still Wednesday at 6:13 pm
    [6:14:20 PM] Sirius 17: oh well, still fits anyhow
    [6:15:01 PM] Sirius 17: i do this a lot
    [6:15:05 PM] Emeth: Yes it fits with this triple planet alignment, I posted from May 23rd to early June
    [6:15:12 PM] Sirius 17: look at the GOT for a daily alignment
    [6:15:26 PM] Emeth: I know this is a discovery of yours
    [6:15:59 PM] Emeth: You can also superpose this as counting 1-114 from December 21st, 2012 Raven
    [6:16:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i always seem to get some new piece from it too
    [6:16:07 PM] Emeth: And then repeat
    [6:16:23 PM] Sirius 17: ah yeah
    [6:16:34 PM] Sirius 17: many ways i never thought about
    [6:16:38 PM] Emeth: Yes there are multiple ways of corresponding the day of the month to the GOT
    [6:17:08 PM] Emeth: The December 21st nexus is a logical starting point though
    [6:17:29 PM] Sirius 17: so if we do it that way from dec 21 and repeat, which GOT would it give us?
    [6:19:35 PM] Sirius 17:

    (45) Jesus said, "Grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they do not produce fruit. A good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man brings forth evil things from his evil storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. For out of the abundance of the heart he brings forth evil things."

    [6:19:46 PM] Sirius 17: i got 45 but i dont know if i did it right
    [6:19:57 PM] Sirius 17: i googled the days, it said 159 days

    [6:23:14 PM] Emeth: December 22nd = #1 and January 22nd = #(1+31)=#32 and February 22nd = #(32+31)=#63 and March 22nd = #(63+28)=#91 and April 13th = #(91+22)=#113 and then April 14th = #1 again and May 14th = #(1+30)=#31 and May 29th will be #(31+15)=#46

    [6:23:46 PM] Emeth: Yes this is correct, if you start with the day following
    [6:24:40 PM] Sirius 17: ok if i calculate out to July 5th i get this one:
    [6:24:44 PM] Sirius 17:

    (83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."

    [6:24:55 PM] Emeth: December 21st + 159 = December 180 (-31-31-28-31-30)=May 180-151=29
    [6:25:45 PM] Emeth: It is just one of many permutations Raven
    [6:25:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
    [6:26:29 PM] Sirius 17: Got meditations lol
    [6:26:38 PM] Emeth: June 17th-18th will complete Revelation 19 and then the 'Little Season' following the 'millennium' are 18 days to July 4th-5th
    [6:27:18 PM] Sirius 17: anything from DD?
    [6:27:26 PM] Sirius 17: Xeia and I were thinking about her
    [6:27:42 PM] Emeth: But it is intersting, that the 'Wedding Supper' when the 'flesh of horses and old and young and poor and rich' is consumed 'by the fowls of heaven' in this triple eclipse period encoded in revelation 19.
    [6:27:50 PM] Emeth: No
    [6:28:01 PM] Sirius 17: oh really? is that on the chart?
    [6:28:26 PM] Emeth: This code so fits nicely with RIPPER=82=ARMAGEDDON=DRAGON MADE etc etc
    [6:28:38 PM] Emeth: Implied yes
    [6:28:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes well and if i go back one day i get GOT #82
    [6:29:05 PM] Sirius 17: from dec 21 to july 5th
    [6:29:14 PM] Sirius 17: if i am even doing it right
    [6:29:14 PM] Emeth: And your vision of the ET of course is just related to the 'fowls of heaven' feasting on the flesh of the old world - you get the drift yes?
    [6:29:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [6:29:38 PM] Sirius 17: this is what i have felt for a while now
    [6:29:44 PM] Sirius 17: that they are here
    [6:30:12 PM] Sirius 17:

    (82) Jesus said, "He who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."

    [6:30:22 PM] Emeth: 83=WISDOM=GNOSIS as the Sophia of the ALPHA=BRIDE=NOAH=38 reflected
    [6:30:40 PM] Sirius 17: July 5th:
    (5) Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."

    yes coincedence?
    [6:31:05 PM] Sirius 17: seems uncanny
    [6:35:12 PM] Sirius 17: what are you doing?
    [6:35:27 PM] Emeth: Editing this
    [6:35:58 PM] Sirius 17: oh lol
    [6:36:21 PM] Sirius 17: i thought maybe you were reading or something
    [6:37:54 PM] Emeth: Nono I am not that blase'. But I am inclined to make a record of it, when you quote the GOT
    This might all die off, after July too
    [6:39:04 PM] Sirius 17: it will quote itself then
    [6:39:47 PM] Emeth: If the testimony exists, the Logos can act on it as evidence.
    [6:39:53 PM] Sirius 17: we hope yes
    [6:40:21 PM] Emeth: Why I appreciate that yoiu no longer are 'protecting your privacies' here, as most others would do
    [6:40:44 PM] Emeth: This is made clear in the 'works given to the prophets'
    [6:40:49 PM] Sirius 17: no one reads it anyhow
    [6:41:07 PM] Emeth: So I feel obliged to keep records; but perhaps no longer than July
    [6:41:12 PM] Emeth: Exactly
    [6:41:15 PM] Sirius 17: i am only here for the Logos, not to impress anyone anyhow
    [6:41:20 PM] Emeth: Exactly
    [6:42:00 PM] Sirius 17: i simply don't care anymore, i am free of what anyone thinks, it does not matter to the grand picture anyhow
    [6:42:26 PM] Emeth:
    [6:38:53 PM] mel: Tony. I know this might sound late.
    [6:39:11 PM] mel: But i was refreshing some research on my name
    [6:39:41 PM] mel: i realized i overlooked that my name also means deborah
    [6:40:31 PM] mel: well
    [6:41:46 PM] Emeth: Dovra=Hebrew for Bee yes
    [6:42:05 PM] mel: i mean my name means honeybee. but deborah means, "bee." parts of my name means honey or producing of honey. but debroah, i've read so far only equals bee.
    [6:43:01 PM] Emeth: I knew of Deborah but not of Melissa
    [6:44:32 PM] mel: i couldnt help but notice the paralleling of her and i thoughout the posts
    [6:45:19 PM] mel: but it didnt really get my attention until reading that.
    [6:46:29 PM] Emeth: I dont know about the other Debra now dear, she is not communicating since February, but her birthday is just one day before yours. You both are on this codex list
    [6:46:57 PM] mel: i figured ok same sign similar people
    [6:47:14 PM] mel: but then all the other things that fall in around it now its got my attention
    [6:50:07 PM] mel: everything implied to me that she was some kinda... i dunno. another version of me. another all but mirror image of me, but not exactly the same.
    [6:50:26 PM] mel: i didnt know her. so i wanted to ask you.
    [6:51:37 PM] mel: whats your observation about her and me?
    [6:55:00 PM] Emeth: I noticed your Aquarian birthtime and found it significant, that we had an 'intimate' chat following the December 21st, solstice, which you and I experienced together last year
    [6:57:09 PM] mel: yes.
    [6:58:45 PM] Emeth: This is the reason I consider you an integral part of whatever the future might bring and part of this Logos timeline, nevertheless your apprehensions about aspects of it
    [6:59:12 PM] Emeth: I said this before, remember?
    [6:59:33 PM] mel: yes
    [7:00:00 PM] mel: i didnt doubt you then, i still do not, even now.
    [7:00:31 PM] Emeth: It is irrelevant what people think or make of anything I do or say dear
    [7:01:08 PM] mel: true.
    [7:01:37 PM] Emeth: There are particular energetics at play and I too dont know much of what they are or do
    [7:02:08 PM] Emeth: We all can but try to not move contra some natural order here
    [7:02:40 PM] Emeth: Most unfortunately misread the 'energies' and fall into filtering scenarios of the human mindedness
    [7:04:30 PM] mel: yes, most.
    [7:06:24 PM] mel: i think the ones with minds that others would label sick, read those energies another way.
    [7:09:12 PM] Emeth: Labelings like this are no longer appropriate, as the dimensional matrix has changed
    [7:09:52 PM] mel: this i agree with.
    [7:09:59 PM] Emeth: But it is this, I term human mindedness and the filtering of what is called 'personailty', egocentricity and individualism
    [7:10:28 PM] Emeth: There is nothing 'wrong' with this by nature, but the limited understandings can play havoc with it
    [7:15:25 PM] Emeth: I am keeping a record over the Deborah name and this does not in fact concern the DD, but the name Deborah, which is also my daughter
    [7:15:53 PM] mel: ahhhhhhhh damnit
    [7:16:01 PM] mel: the ring
    [7:16:34 PM] Emeth: What ring?
    [7:16:39 PM] Emeth: The Moebian
    [7:16:46 PM] mel: and i apologize i did not recognize your daughters name in that mix
    [7:16:58 PM] Emeth: Deborah is a Hebrew Prophetess
    [7:17:12 PM] Emeth: From the Book of Judges
    [7:17:14 PM] mel: yes a warrior
    [7:17:20 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [7:17:45 PM] Emeth: The DD in the Thuban wars is called DD or Debra never Deborah
    [7:17:59 PM] mel: but the ring is that ring that rattles through me when im near
    [7:18:28 PM] Emeth: You mean a sound?
    [7:18:29 PM] mel: Oh, okay.
    [7:18:36 PM] mel: yes. but its not a sound.
    [7:18:52 PM] mel: the silent one you hear
    [7:19:03 PM] Emeth: Ok then
    [7:19:06 PM] mel: it just happened right now
    [7:19:17 PM] Emeth: Silent Flute
    [7:19:24 PM] Emeth: Is a movie
    [7:19:34 PM] mel: yes i remember that movie you referenced
    [7:19:43 PM] Emeth: David Carradine
    [7:19:53 PM] mel: the message is poignant
    [7:20:10 PM] Emeth: Bruce Lee was supposed to play the seeker, but he died I think
    [7:20:28 PM] Emeth: It has Zen connotations, but is ok yes
    [7:21:01 PM] mel: damnit its rising
    [7:21:13 PM] mel: i guess im supposed to be talking to you right now.
    [7:21:44 PM] Emeth: Who says that, in your opinion?
    [7:22:04 PM] mel: who?
    [7:22:12 PM] mel: who else?
    [7:22:20 PM] Emeth: Your inner guidance, one could say
    [7:22:26 PM] mel: who i am.
    [7:23:05 PM] mel: one, yes.
    [7:23:12 PM] mel: everything yes
    [7:23:21 PM] mel: no one else yes
    [7:27:07 PM] Emeth: I am going to add this movie, it seems to fit




    [6:47:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes she has gone bonkers too
    [6:48:14 PM] Sirius 17: sympathizing with the radical whatever in her
    [6:50:15 PM] Sirius 17: yeah carol is really dialing up the paranoia on this east coast Tsunami prediction
    [6:50:46 PM] Sirius 17: more tornados today in the midwest too
    [6:51:31 PM] Sirius 17: headline news on CNN is this new virus
    [6:52:00 PM] Sirius 17: they are calling it a global threat
    [6:52:54 PM] Emeth: As said the ordinary common 3D perspectives are being taken from our 'jurisprudence' back to the Logos. This to me is part of this 'millennium' encoded in Revelation.20
    [6:54:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes the weather is fully under Logos jurisprudence now
    [6:55:23 PM] Emeth: Something like that yes
    [6:55:38 PM] Emeth: JT sort of gets all this in his exhuberances
    [6:55:52 PM] Sirius 17: lol yeah he does
    [6:56:18 PM] Sirius 17: he is relentless with crushing the spammers
    [6:57:24 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130528202549.htm
    humm this is interesting too
    [7:04:26 PM] Sirius 17: i am going to go to bed sweety
    [7:04:44 PM] Emeth: Good night dear
    [7:04:52 PM] Sirius 17: its getting late here and i have to get up with carla at 8
    [7:05:05 PM] Sirius 17: nn hon
    [7:05:19 PM] Sirius 17: emoticon-00152-heart. emoticon-00155-flower. emoticon-00152-heart.
    [7:05:26 PM] Emeth: The Awakenings of the Slumberers yes.
    [7:05:40 PM] Sirius 17: hehe yeah
    .
    [7:31:27 PM] mel:
    [5:44:46 PM] Sirius 17: i see this is what the Logos is doing, it is using all this to unveil it all
    [5:45:04 PM] Sirius 17: even though its mixed in with the NABS
    [5:45:16 PM] Sirius 17: the great revealing is happening

    [7:31:31 PM] mel: she is right.
    [7:31:53 PM] Emeth: Yes she is
    [7:39:03 PM] mel: how are you, tony?
    [7:39:18 PM] Emeth: Ordinary one can say
    [7:39:36 PM] mel: is that how you feel?
    [7:39:36 PM] Emeth: Keeping the fort
    [7:40:00 PM] Emeth: People like me feel the cosmic transformation mel and this is not a pleasantry
    [7:40:34 PM] mel: of course it wouldnt' be.
    [7:40:46 PM] Emeth: History shows you this
    [7:40:50 PM] mel: thankfully you're not alone.
    [7:41:19 PM] Emeth: In many ways one must be alone in empathy
    [7:41:29 PM] mel: how so
    [7:42:02 PM] Emeth: This is the 'loneliness' or 'solitariness' in the scriptures
    [7:42:18 PM] Emeth: To be in the world yet out of it
    [7:42:37 PM] mel: i hear you on that
    [7:42:44 PM] Emeth: many would
    [7:42:51 PM] mel: i think
    [7:43:13 PM] Emeth: It is common nous, yet expressed in many ways
    [7:43:31 PM] mel: common, more than common
    [7:43:35 PM] Emeth: Some experience wars and tragedies in the physical, others in the mental
    [7:44:01 PM] mel: yes
    [7:44:33 PM] Emeth: It is evolvement on the cosmic level, albeit expressed in individual journeys
    [7:46:53 PM] mel: yes
    [7:48:35 PM] mel: knowing ourselves, each part. every bit. will bring us to know the all
    [7:49:17 PM] Emeth: Do you know the cells in your heart or lungs?
    [7:49:38 PM] Emeth: Be careful with generalisations
    [7:49:56 PM] mel: do I/
    [7:49:57 PM] mel: ?
    [7:50:04 PM] mel: i daresay yes
    [7:50:06 PM] Emeth: There is an autonomous and a sympathetic nervous system for example, which make up your body
    [7:50:37 PM] mel: yes.
    [7:50:50 PM] Emeth: One acts without your conscious input, the other requires it for its dynamics
    [7:51:54 PM] mel: yes.
    [7:51:55 PM] Emeth: But if you consider your automatic parts as being partial to the greater cosmic you, then you can indeed get to know all of your parts - in due time, course and cause
    [7:52:46 PM] mel: yes that is what i would have answered.
    [7:53:03 PM] Emeth: Synchronicities then.
    [7:54:11 PM] mel: wouldnt other people and their actions, in a way be automatic parts, in terms of perception
    [7:54:50 PM] Emeth: It becomes a 'bee hive' or anthill in a more cosmic and sentient form yes
    [7:54:50 PM] mel: not just people.
    [7:55:49 PM] Emeth: There are 'missing parts' in the natural exemplaries, which the sentience can fathom and add to construct a more detailed tapestry
    [7:56:14 PM] mel: like
    [7:56:16 PM] mel: ?
    [7:56:46 PM] Emeth: In a Beehive there is a supersexed Queenbee, but no Kingbee for example
    [7:57:10 PM] Emeth: There is a gender imbalance
    [7:57:26 PM] mel: how
    [7:57:33 PM] Emeth: The matriarchial society dominates the maleness
    [7:58:25 PM] mel: it is not seen. the absence of the kingbee doesnt mean maleness is dominated
    [7:58:28 PM] Emeth: The emphasis is on reproduction in many forms and on many levels
    [7:58:39 PM] Emeth: There is no Kingbee mel
    [7:59:10 PM] Emeth: The Queenbee uses many drones, which die after inseminating the Queenbee
    [7:59:55 PM] Emeth: Then daughter queenbees are 'groomed', who eventually smother the old Queenbee to death, when she gets too old to have sex with the drones
    [8:00:18 PM] mel: uh huh
    [8:00:26 PM] Emeth: It is a form of the 'brutality of nature'
    [8:01:13 PM] mel: yes.
    [8:01:15 PM] Emeth: Yet it serves the cosmic orders UNTIL a new and perhaps 'less cruel' order can evolve from the old order
    [8:02:13 PM] mel: which is happening now
    [8:03:00 PM] Emeth: Then I implied that the human 'collective', being based on Queenbees searching for Kingbees in a manner represents such a evolvement of an older order; yet with its own 'handicaps'; such as that monogamous partnerships actually disobey 'Nature's preferences'
    [8:03:05 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [8:04:14 PM] mel: natures preference
    [8:04:21 PM] Emeth: So the old beehive has parts to it the new starhuman order also should adopt, whilst also redefining and renewing other aspects of the old order, such as the female dominance in its basis
    [8:04:30 PM] Emeth: A win-win situation of sorts
    [8:11:16 PM] mel: i will reflect more on this, tony.
    [8:11:25 PM] mel: i have to sleep a bit
    [8:11:35 PM] mel: thanks, as always
    [8:11:46 PM] mel: be well
    [8:11:48 PM] mel: goodnight
    [8:11:52 PM] Emeth: Sure dear, nice talking to you for a while and what we talked about serves the cosmic database
    [8:11:59 PM] mel: indeed
    [8:12:05 PM] mel: glad to be of service
    [8:12:13 PM] Emeth: Pleasant dragon dreams to you

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    • miii - Posted May 29th 2013

      seriously now, you would post this convo as i talk to you about deb. hahaha isn't timing wonderful

      (83) Jesus says:
      (1) "The images are visible to humanity, but the light within them is hidden in the image.
      (2) {} The light of the Father will reveal itself, but his image is hidden by his light."


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      Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 31st 2013


      miii - Posted 2 Days Ago
    • melissa.

      seriously now, you would post this convo as i talk to you about deb. hahaha isn't timing wonderful

      (83) Jesus says:
      (1) "The images are visible to humanity, but the light within them is hidden in the image.
      (2) {} The light of the Father will reveal itself, but his image is hidden by his light."


      Yes, this fits the Logos timeline nicely Melissa.
      There are 3x17⅔=53 days in a double mirror from May 30th, 2013 to July 22nd, 2013 with June 17th, 2013 and July 4th, 2013 equally partitioned within them. And 53 is the Deborah code of the Harobed image and applies to your name then as you specified as a very ancient and potent archetype. In the decoding then, Mary Magdalene becomes a cosmic symbol for all 'new starhuman females', meaning the DragonQueenBees or Isis-Mary-Inanna Dovras in the Thuban Beekeepings. And you are right, Melissa means 'Honey Bee' and Debra or Dvora or Dovra means 'Bee' according to references with the starhuman 'honey' also known as the 'Kundalini Elixir of Eternal Life' aka the 'Nectar of the Goddogs.

      Melissa = Mel + Is + As = 30+28+20=78 = Mother-1=AlphaOmega-1 or minus the 'A' of the Beginnings as a 'hint' to your life's incarnated snowflake journey. Now a key is in the word Adam=A Dam= Mad A=19=S as the S letter in your name and showing that the 'bible story' about the creation of mankind is a code for a 'crazy beginning' of sorts. The 19=A Dam so as a Sire so relates to the cosmic mother Gaea or Gaia=18 as the name Adam minus the A, then emphasized in your Melissa being the Mother minus the A=1. The 19=S=RA also to link this script to the symbols of Egypt as the metaphysical forerunner of the Judean-Christian-Islamic or 'Abrahamic' religions. Can you see the Ra of the 'Sungod' in Abraham and its renaming from Abram?
      Also then 30=Debra=Bible=Eagle=Baby=Ark=Bread and many more anagrams and sub-in codes. So you see "Mel Is As Debra" literally. There is more decipherment and correspondences to your 'honey bee' name you can find on the forums though.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

      Emeth, May 31st, 2013 and 53 days before MM's 'official holy day'.

      bridge.
      addon.

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    Posted Jun 1st 2013

    Conversations on Logos Codes Continued

    [2:35:43 PM] Emeth: [Saturday, June 1st, 2013 2013 2:36PM - +10UCT]
    Debra: Tony are you here?
    [31/05/2013 10:26:00 AM] Debra: TTT is a "bridge".. in case you hadn't figured it out. See it?

    [31/05/2013 5:59:51 PM] Emeth: I saw this a while ago and some time after and not when you said this. I wanted to ponder this before replying, which I now do after some 'rest'. I can discern a code in this very well. In the Logos timeline TTTT means TimeToToTime as 8282=8228=1010=0110, something you termed 'One Ten' when you were more aligned to this form of decoding. The 0110 is actually a binary algorithm at the core of creation, which was described in the Lucifer's Mirror thread.

    [31/05/2013 6:01:08 PM] Emeth: 82=Armageddon=Dragon Made="Get Fucked!" of course and there are many connotations with 59+41=100=Dragon Dream=Mother of=Of AlphaOmega and Logistics like this.

    [31/05/2013 6:02:24 PM] Emeth: The 'Bridge' so relates to the 17-18 days from June 17th, 2013 to July 4th-5th, 2013 and also the mirror image before this; which becomes your 'timing' of saying this. 17 June minus 17-18 days are then May 30-31, 2013.

    [31/05/2013 6:05:47 PM] Emeth: However your way of thinking, perceiving and dreaming seems to have deviated rather a lot from what this once was 2 years ago and so no, I actually dont know what you are addressing here. My open sharing of all these things was abused and 'misapplied' by your kind of 'philos' or cosmology and so I cannot comment in your mode of understanding, as this way of 'Dragon Dreaming' is rather disharmonious to me.

    [31/05/2013 6:06:19 PM] Emeth: Thanks for the remembrance, Debra.

    [31/05/2013 6:08:04 PM] Emeth: This code of the T(TT)T also relates to 3 miscarriages or abortions in a girl-boy-(girl)-boy sequence, which manifests the 'Cosmic Twin' in a kind of cosmic blueprint.

    bridge. addon.
    [31/05/2013 6:49:47 PM] *** Emeth sent bridge.jpg ***
    [31/05/2013 7:10:21 PM] *** Emeth sent addon.gif ***
    [2:25:21 AM] Sirius 17: that is all she said?
    [4:08:03 AM] Sirius 17: i have a big test today in physics and a huge paper due on Tuesday, so I will be pretty tied up with all of that over the weekend. I spent way too much time trying to help Xeia and Rok and so I am behind a little LOL.
    [10:53:06 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4964p300-aquaries1111-corner and she posted some song again with some strange lead on sentence.
    [10:53:21 AM] Sirius 17:

    They live by the code y? Because it's a deco y
    Very active out of body experiences last night. I had the impression that possible flooding, tsunumi type of events could happen in Europe in 2 weeks. I am working to ease any devastation to Earth Spirits.

    [2:36:37 PM] Emeth: Yes, this is all she said and it seems, she never got this message and she has blocked me again.
    [2:43:58 PM] Emeth: Nice song this, yes.
    [2:49:43 PM] Emeth: See the two weeks, she 'dreamt' about? This is just the June 17th mirror bridge date. And she says this, not having seen my reply, uncanny but Logos synchronistic indeed.
    [3:45:23 PM] Sirius 17: she blocked you again?
    [3:45:26 PM] Sirius 17: wtf for
    [3:46:42 PM] Sirius 17: well reading her today on moa just makes me think nothing has changed
    [3:47:13 PM] Emeth: I feel she was pissed off me not replying to her
    [3:47:25 PM] Sirius 17: probably
    [3:47:28 PM] Emeth: I was asleep when she checked her chat
    [3:47:38 PM] Emeth: So I sort of understand
    [3:48:11 PM] Sirius 17: i did not know we had silent witness with her in it still
    [3:48:16 PM] Emeth: I left the computer running for a while, just in case, but eventually shut down before she came on
    [3:48:30 PM] Emeth: Yes I copied this to that
    [3:48:34 PM] Emeth: Just in case
    [3:49:29 PM] Sirius 17: Tony what does she mean with the TTT
    [3:50:08 PM] Sirius 17: and why even say that, i mean she doesnt talk to you all this time and that is all she can bring herself to say?
    [3:50:23 PM] Sirius 17: has she used this expression before?
    [3:51:04 PM] Sirius 17: i can see the bridge but i dont see her point
    [3:51:37 PM] Sirius 17: i guess she was just testing to see if you were there maybe
    [3:52:57 PM] Emeth: perhaps, I recall she called me TT or something a year ago
    [3:53:23 PM] Sirius 17: what do you make of her decoy code
    [3:53:44 PM] Sirius 17: she used two Y's
    [3:53:45 PM] Emeth: She was signed in, when she posted this, but I was doing something else and was unawares of her being signed in for some time
    [3:54:12 PM] Emeth: Deco Y = Code Why
    [3:54:19 PM] Sirius 17: [10:53 AM] Sirius 17:
    <<< They live by the code y? Because it's a deco y

    [3:54:20 PM] Emeth: Code ?
    [3:54:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes she said this on her post
    [3:54:56 PM] Emeth: Yes, she means that Thuban is an evil decoy or something for 'her truth', say Ucadian Nabs
    [3:55:03 PM] Sirius 17: i just can't figure out wtf she is trying to say
    [3:55:10 PM] Sirius 17: i thought so
    [3:55:18 PM] Sirius 17: it seemed like a stab at us
    [3:55:25 PM] Sirius 17: but look at the two Y's
    [3:55:27 PM] Sirius 17: YY
    [3:55:30 PM] Emeth: I published her decoded scatterbrain 'intuition' and otherwise it is as said
    [3:55:50 PM] Emeth: The Tony = Y not = ? Not
    [3:56:01 PM] Sirius 17: i was thinking of the YYY
    [3:56:07 PM] Sirius 17: but one is missing
    [3:56:21 PM] Emeth: No, I dont think she is aware of the YYY
    [3:56:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know, i dont know
    [3:56:40 PM] Sirius 17: its just weird
    [3:56:53 PM] Emeth: It fits with the timeframe Raven
    [3:57:04 PM] Emeth: Why I added to the charts
    [3:57:17 PM] Sirius 17: i did not realise you did
    [3:57:41 PM] Emeth: May 30th to MM-Day 2013 are 53 Deborah days
    [3:57:51 PM] Sirius 17: i have been buried in studies
    [3:58:02 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok
    [3:58:11 PM] Sirius 17: the 53 again
    [3:58:36 PM] Emeth: Exactly THREE T(imes), each of 17⅔ days
    [3:58:52 PM] Emeth: TTT=53 then see?
    [3:58:59 PM] Emeth: I know she does not understand this
    [3:59:17 PM] Emeth: But her timing fits perfectly
    [3:59:20 PM] Sirius 17: wow
    [3:59:26 PM] Sirius 17: how does she fucking do this lol
    [3:59:30 PM] Emeth: Even her 'tsunami' in Europe OBE means two weeks to June 17th, as the bridge mirror
    [3:59:47 PM] Emeth: It is not the bimbo DD, but Lassie in there
    [3:59:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes what is she picking up with that
    [4:00:16 PM] Emeth: Deborah is stronger than ever. Just see Melissa 'tuning in' as a Honey Bee
    [4:00:42 PM] Emeth: This Deborah is an ancient archetype of MM herself and also Baab
    [4:01:00 PM] Emeth: This is why those intuitions are so potent, even in a bimbo Nabs mind
    [4:01:58 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i guess
    [4:02:08 PM] Sirius 17: i think mel is very strange
    [4:02:26 PM] Sirius 17: something just feels very odd to me about her
    [4:02:29 PM] Emeth: There are Zombie bodies and there are Zombie minds and you know what is what on this occasion
    [4:03:17 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [4:03:23 PM] Emeth: Mel carries the Inanna memeplex too and you know the implications. This is why she is novarex compatible
    [4:04:17 PM] Sirius 17: i just feel she has some agenda
    [4:04:19 PM] Emeth: Your asteroid flyby with a moon also fits this timeline to a dot symbolically
    [4:04:30 PM] Sirius 17: like she is not being straight with us all together
    [4:04:34 PM] Emeth: [2:24 AM] Sirius 17:
    <<< http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/world/earth-new-asteroid/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    this is kind of cool
    [4:04:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes why i shared it
    [4:04:59 PM] Emeth: Melissa = Mel Is As with Mel=Debra, indeed
    [4:04:59 PM] Sirius 17: it seemed significant somehow
    [4:06:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes i found that very odd
    [4:06:33 PM] Sirius 17: she feels some kind of affinty with debra
    [4:09:06 PM] Emeth: I am not surprised about this. It was Mel and noone else, including you, who shared the 21st December transition with me; though you knew about it and witnessed this in proxy
    [4:09:43 PM] Emeth: The next day, Mel opened up to me mentally and something she never did before or afterwards
    [4:09:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember
    [4:10:26 PM] Sirius 17: but then she became secretive and strange
    [4:10:37 PM] Emeth: Then, the honeybee disappeared back into her 'other life' priorities, some of them rather nebulous
    [4:10:41 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [4:11:14 PM] Sirius 17: something did happen to her though, some kind of death rebirth thing
    [4:11:21 PM] Sirius 17: she seems different to me
    [4:11:35 PM] Emeth: And DD became 'moosed' and 'old world infected' at the same time following this nexus marker
    [4:12:05 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [4:12:26 PM] Sirius 17: it was almost like she was subbing for dd
    [4:12:50 PM] Emeth: So all of this does not surprise me, but it affects me emotionally of course
    [4:12:59 PM] Emeth: Yes, she was indeed
    [4:13:13 PM] Emeth: Like Rachael remember in DD's 'wedding dreams' over a year ago now
    [4:13:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont recall specifically
    [4:14:11 PM] Emeth: When a dragon babyboy was born to Rok and Xeia
    [4:14:30 PM] Sirius 17: i have pretty much had her out of my mind lately , still pissed at her i guess
    [4:14:43 PM] Emeth: Well change the subject
    [4:14:46 PM] Sirius 17: yeah ok, i remember Xeia's dreams about this yes
    [4:15:57 PM] Emeth: Coinciding with Debra's 'dreams' yes
    [4:17:36 PM] Sirius 17: well yes i have been just watching Tony, trying not to get emotional over it
    [4:17:47 PM] Sirius 17: everytime she takes a stab at us
    [4:17:57 PM] Sirius 17: i feel the anti
    [4:18:07 PM] Sirius 17: and i get super pissed i guess
    [4:18:22 PM] Sirius 17: like protective
    [4:18:26 PM] Emeth: There was a shift in her psyche May 30th. Of this I am rather sure
    [4:18:47 PM] Sirius 17: i hope so
    [4:18:57 PM] Sirius 17: i still will not unblock her
    [4:18:58 PM] Emeth: Because Debbie manifested in potent manners
    [4:19:23 PM] Sirius 17: i have thought over this many times, and i still feel the need to make her go to you
    [4:19:27 PM] Emeth: You understand the sisterhood of the femme trio in this dont you?
    [4:19:43 PM] Emeth: DD is not in it in waveform, but only in bodyform
    [4:19:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
    [4:19:58 PM] Emeth: This is at the core of this scenario
    [4:20:13 PM] Emeth: Why I can say, that something shifted
    [4:20:21 PM] Emeth: It is the MILD permutation
    [4:20:52 PM] Sirius 17: well i feel strange
    [4:20:59 PM] Sirius 17: still
    [4:21:01 PM] Emeth: Dragon Dream = DD = Elder = KOR = 8
    [4:21:10 PM] Sirius 17: Jarrod left the house that day
    [4:21:24 PM] Sirius 17: he took off
    [4:21:28 PM] Sirius 17: packed all his shit
    [4:21:33 PM] Emeth: So I am trying to say to you, that the Dragon Dreamer is rather more evolved and more encompassing than the human dreamers
    [4:21:42 PM] Sirius 17: was going to hitch hike back to wendover
    [4:21:51 PM] Emeth: May 30th?
    [4:22:17 PM] Sirius 17: well it was the day before actually
    [4:22:27 PM] Sirius 17: but it would of been the 30th for you
    [4:23:00 PM] Emeth: Yes and this could relate to the male trios
    [4:23:21 PM] Sirius 17: well it rained hard that day
    [4:23:29 PM] Sirius 17: and we were driving around looking for him
    [4:23:40 PM] Sirius 17: and finally he told me to come get him
    [4:23:59 PM] Sirius 17: but he was pissed off at me
    [4:24:14 PM] Emeth: Another 'change of mind', even in a minor expression, see?
    [4:24:20 PM] Sirius 17: he has calmed down now though and its all ok
    [4:24:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:24:34 PM] Sirius 17: so i knew something shifted
    [4:24:51 PM] Emeth: Why Debra's TTT is a bridge of sorts, as she said
    [4:25:30 PM] Emeth: But her Nabs nous is a great hindrance to the more powerful Logos tune-ins
    [4:25:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know she is giving us messages from the subconscous side, the MILD
    [4:25:57 PM] Emeth: So she gets the energy streams, but rather badly interprets them
    [4:26:00 PM] Sirius 17: but yeah her mind is still totally fucked
    [4:26:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes she cannot tune in right
    [4:26:21 PM] Emeth: Yes, she lives in lala lands
    [4:26:50 PM] Sirius 17: it is frustrating
    [4:26:53 PM] Emeth: It is the company you keep and this is mentally here and not physically
    [4:27:00 PM] Sirius 17: probably more so to you
    [4:27:13 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i see that
    [4:27:22 PM] Sirius 17: can see it with Rok and Xeia too in a way
    [4:28:33 PM] Sirius 17: they exhausted me in trying to help them, they can be so damn blind
    [4:29:37 PM] Sirius 17: at least now they are talking again it seems
    [4:30:06 PM] Emeth: Xeia's latest dreams were Logos induced imo and highly relevant to bring in some settlements mindfully
    [4:30:52 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i saw that
    [4:32:53 PM] Sirius 17: and i did feel the sisterhood was present for all that
    [4:33:25 PM] Emeth: Oh yes and they are rather 'devilishly horny'
    [4:33:37 PM] Emeth: 53=DEVILA see that?
    [4:33:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes the whole idea Xeia had of coming here
    [4:34:00 PM] Sirius 17: lol no i did not see that
    [4:34:07 PM] Emeth: This is the kabbalistic sexchange operation the entire cosmos has been waiting for since the beginning of time
    [4:34:42 PM] Emeth: This also relates to Xeia's dream, I will not share so without her asking for it
    [4:35:27 PM] Emeth: 52=DEVIL=EARTH=HEART, another one of DD's main focus points
    [4:35:58 PM] Sirius 17: i think she is trying to resolve whatever is going on with her and rok somehow, they have gone back to the 1-1 talks again
    [4:36:03 PM] Emeth: LIVEDA=DEBORAH=53 as Heart+1=Earth+A in a new beginning
    [4:36:10 PM] Emeth: Good
    [4:36:23 PM] Emeth: They both appeared calmed down
    [4:36:32 PM] Emeth: This is May 30th imo
    [4:36:33 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:36:41 PM] Emeth: Same time Jarrod 'calmed down'
    [4:37:01 PM] Emeth: And Debra sought for recognisances
    [4:37:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes and it is significant
    [4:37:28 PM] Sirius 17: but then she blocked you again
    [4:37:58 PM] Sirius 17: some strange shit is going on lol
    [4:38:15 PM] Emeth: She was annoyed with not receiving a reply. But I did and this is a skype issue of not forwarding messages
    [4:38:26 PM] Sirius 17: we had more tornados here again today in almost the same place Moore OK
    [4:38:49 PM] Sirius 17: people fled to the highways
    [4:38:56 PM] Sirius 17: huge traffic jam
    [4:39:08 PM] Sirius 17: and it blew right over the interstate
    [4:39:59 PM] Emeth: I am unawares, as I have not watched the news for a while
    [4:40:36 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/01/us/midwest-weather/index.html
    [4:41:02 PM] Emeth: Gracias
    [4:42:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes and the flooding will be bad they say
    [4:42:05 PM] Sirius 17: they are getting hammered
    [4:44:22 PM] Emeth: So Raven, can you decipher the 'energy streams' now; say the 'European tsunamis' of DD and the many 'extraterrstrial visitors' of say the Nabsers of Moa?
    [4:45:05 PM] Emeth: The Moore tornadoes so are fractals of the higher D manifesting as 'mini events'
    [4:45:07 PM] Sirius 17: yes its contact
    [4:45:10 PM] Emeth: Yes
    [4:45:26 PM] Emeth: It is rather 'scientific' lol
    [4:45:42 PM] Sirius 17: indeed lol
    [4:45:56 PM] Sirius 17: as we have been saying all along
    [4:45:58 PM] Emeth: Like the cellular programming now also appearing in virus mutations and medical discoveries
    [4:46:37 PM] Emeth: No Nabs required, just simple common scientific deduction and reason and logistics
    [4:47:08 PM] Emeth: Accomodating the cosmic history, albeit centred on this Logos planet.
    [4:47:31 PM] Emeth: This also shows you why DD shared the Earth video of Michael Jackson
    [4:48:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes she is tuning in
    [4:48:10 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130531105415.htm
    [4:48:15 PM] Sirius 17: more science
    [4:48:25 PM] Emeth: She FEELS the 'real thing' as most would; but the required library and knowledge in her mind is simply insufficient to tune into the cosmic data sharing in a better understanding of the images, dreams and feelings
    [4:49:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes and sad for us to witness the disconnect
    [4:50:23 PM] Sirius 17: but i still am hopeful something happens with her, i trust the Logos i really do
    [4:52:16 PM] Emeth: She was the Baab blueprint in individuation for 5 months in 2011 dear and by July 2013 this somehow must resurface or fade away AS a valid template function relative to the Logos
    [4:53:37 PM] Sirius 17: if the YYY is valid then she is your core Tony
    [4:53:48 PM] Emeth: This then might very well mean, that I and we as the Thuban agency will be 'free of the 5 months' of an integral part of superlative new world structure experienced
    [4:54:01 PM] Emeth: MILD IS indeed my core
    [4:54:33 PM] Emeth: But the existence of L is relative Raven
    [4:54:51 PM] Sirius 17: relative to what?
    [4:55:01 PM] Emeth: Is it the 'forgotten past' as the 'remembered future' or not?
    [4:55:29 PM] Emeth: I cant answer this. Only DD can and we know what she considers her past to be - namely dead and buried.
    [4:55:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know you can't
    [4:56:11 PM] Sirius 17: we can just wait and see
    [4:56:12 PM] Emeth: Her 'Becoming' never ends and she is trapped in a cul de sacian loop in this
    [4:56:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes, become already lol

    [4:57:27 PM] Emeth: Right, now try to share this with the Nabsers, who are forever searching; perhaps expecting a nirvana release like Carol and without physicality
    [4:58:13 PM] Sirius 17: no thanks, its like arguing with Devakas
    [4:58:15 PM] Sirius 17: pointless
    [4:59:16 PM] Emeth: Just what I implied. Devakas has disappeared, you noticed?
    [4:59:39 PM] Emeth: She might be located at the feet of Praphapuda, her guru or whatever
    [5:00:26 PM] Sirius 17: no i did not notice but then i dont pay attention to her thread
    [5:00:57 PM] Emeth: You dont miss much
    [5:01:25 PM] Emeth: I check there once or twice a day, but refrain from commenting
    [5:01:43 PM] Emeth: As we know, Carol is an excellent news sharer
    [5:02:18 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i just check the news section and such
    [5:02:20 PM] Emeth: I see it as an alternative news outlet, complemented by mainstream TV
    [5:02:48 PM] Sirius 17: and check to see if anyone has said anything on our threads
    [5:02:51 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [5:02:53 PM] Sirius 17: as if
    [5:03:11 PM] Sirius 17: like one day i will probably pass out if someone does
    [5:03:21 PM] Emeth: Well the only ones there were Floyd and Eric and the former has given up on the Nabs and the latter is a little compromised now
    [5:03:33 PM] Sirius 17: yes he has disappeared too
    [5:04:30 PM] Sirius 17: yeah Eric has lost it
    [5:04:34 PM] Emeth: Just an incarnation of Camelot and PA2 imo, Moa is now
    [5:04:48 PM] Emeth: And I hardly ever go there anymore
    [5:05:06 PM] Sirius 17: i have not checked camelot forever
    [5:05:14 PM] Sirius 17: i check PA2 rarely
    [5:05:58 PM] Emeth: Our big ET-Life thread has utterly disappeared, despite Tommy's assurances of sharing data, even as a read only
    [5:06:21 PM] Emeth: This really annoyed me, but I saved it on spruz
    [5:07:05 PM] Emeth: I have not continued editing it as I said I would, after it became absent on Camelot
    [5:07:39 PM] Sirius 17: yeah well Kerry has become totally comercial now
    [5:07:47 PM] Emeth: They reformatted the forum anyway and those internal Camelot links would all but be obsolete anyhow
    [5:07:47 PM] Sirius 17: both her and Bill have sold out
    [5:08:02 PM] Emeth: So no need to spend days on deleting nonexistent links
    [5:08:07 PM] Sirius 17: it was unreal the censorship we got there yeah
    [5:08:30 PM] Emeth: Amazing for a Nabs 'alternative information' site indeed
    [5:08:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes and a poorly read one at that
    [5:08:58 PM] Sirius 17: few people pay attention to her forum
    [5:09:09 PM] Sirius 17: her silly mods ruined it
    [5:09:20 PM] Sirius 17: with all their banning shit
    [5:09:28 PM] Emeth: It would have been similar on those other sites related to this genre
    [5:09:30 PM] Sirius 17: and complete NABS bs
    [5:10:04 PM] Emeth: Tommy reacted to someone telling him they are afraid of dragons
    [5:10:13 PM] Sirius 17: i still have to laugh at how stupid they all were
    [5:10:13 PM] Emeth: This tells it all really
    [5:10:22 PM] Sirius 17: the silly shit they talked about on that forum
    [5:10:31 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [5:10:35 PM] Sirius 17: it was rediculious
    [5:10:51 PM] Emeth: Aqua flown under the bridges now
    [5:10:59 PM] Sirius 17: even more redculious they deleted all of it
    [5:11:09 PM] Sirius 17: we are so dangerous Tony lol
    [5:11:18 PM] Emeth: Making spacecake mod and later banning him is kind of 'silliness extremum' imo
    [5:11:36 PM] Emeth: He threw the cakes at anything Thuban remember?
    [5:11:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes and prime reason that forum will always be a dud
    [5:11:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:11:52 PM] Emeth: Very evolved
    [5:11:56 PM] Sirius 17: it was and likely still is a sand pit
    [5:11:59 PM] Sirius 17: children
    [5:12:15 PM] Emeth: Before kindergarten perhaps
    [5:12:23 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:12:32 PM] Emeth: Selfish brats hiding in the love and light
    [5:12:56 PM] Sirius 17: you would think that Kerry would care more about her forum then to let a bunch of prepubescents run it
    [5:12:57 PM] Emeth: Those dragons are so judgemental - tch tch
    [5:13:10 PM] Sirius 17: since she is so commercial now
    [5:13:21 PM] Emeth: At least Bill Ryan kept the data read only
    [5:13:37 PM] Emeth: Kerry just does not understand what a data base is
    [5:13:40 PM] Sirius 17: i would be embarrased to have that forum under my umbrella if i were in her position
    [5:14:01 PM] Sirius 17: it makes a laughing stock of anything she does
    [5:14:16 PM] Sirius 17: i can't take them serious at all, either of them
    [5:14:32 PM] Sirius 17: and i did back when i felt they were doing some real whistleblowing
    [5:14:50 PM] Sirius 17: AV1 was a miracle
    [5:14:59 PM] Sirius 17: and a gem of real discussion
    [5:15:31 PM] Sirius 17: the stupidity of the take down of that forum still blows my m ind
    [5:16:20 PM] Emeth: AV1 was the starting place for the Logos with the Thuban label yes
    [5:17:06 PM] Emeth: I never expected this to happen, but because it did, ikt really became a 'true alternative' dispensation of information to challenge the existing memeplexus
    [5:17:10 PM] Sirius 17: i used to enjoy reading the discussion going on there, i mean not everyone agreed with each other and there was like an unspoken ettique there that made everyone feel free to speak their minds
    [5:17:45 PM] Sirius 17: and people asked real questions
    [5:17:56 PM] Sirius 17: now look at both their forums now
    [5:18:03 PM] Sirius 17: no one questions anything anymore
    [5:18:07 PM] Emeth: Yes, but Ryan's paranoia with secret spies from Australia (Burns?) was at the core of this. And he could not stand his egocentric challenge as a Q&A from Abraxasinas
    [5:18:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i also think that Mary's involvment with that one mod Rox or something also set things off in motion
    [5:18:51 PM] Sirius 17: he was jealous
    [5:19:14 PM] Sirius 17: i can't remember his name
    [5:19:21 PM] Emeth: Ross yes, another Australian
    [5:19:30 PM] Sirius 17: but i remember her saying or you that they shared a romance for a while
    [5:19:56 PM] Emeth: Dear, the Nabsers have a stronghold here: Bonacci, Kavassilas, O'Collins
    [5:20:19 PM] Sirius 17: and when she went off into that group they put us all in away from the main forum it was like all his cronies got concerned for her, like we kidnapped her or something lol
    [5:20:47 PM] Emeth: But at the same time Celine privately chatted with Mary and me, Raven
    [5:21:01 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i know, their shit is all over the place now
    [5:21:09 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i remember
    [5:21:49 PM] Emeth: Celine played the 'double agent'. Openly attacking all things Thuban on the forum threads and privatly proclaiming her love for dragons. Her name is Dragaon, as you recall from MP33's investigations
    [5:22:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:22:12 PM] Sirius 17: Fritz shared that photo with us
    [5:22:22 PM] Sirius 17: and the screenshot of their forum
    [5:22:49 PM] Emeth: So once we were 'gotten rid off', then the 'backstabbing' continued with eventually Richard and Celine recreating the Nexus forum as competitor to PA2 and Camelot
    [5:23:30 PM] Emeth: As Jesus says; 'If Satan's kingdom is divided in itself, all will fall!'
    [5:24:02 PM] Emeth: The pieces of the 'fallen ones' can then resurrect themselves as Phoenician ashes
    [5:24:43 PM] Emeth: This is the deeper meaning of the codes in Revelation.22, where the 'damned' are afraid to enter through the open gates of the New World
    [5:25:27 PM] Sirius 17: true
    [5:25:46 PM] Sirius 17: that is one place i have not checked out in a while either, the nexus forum
    [5:26:04 PM] Emeth: Yes, me neither
    [5:26:23 PM] Sirius 17: they are all the same though
    [5:26:26 PM] Emeth: But there seemed to be an exodus of people; similar to the Atticus forum
    [5:26:44 PM] Sirius 17: boring nabs rehash
    [5:26:48 PM] Sirius 17: no new data
    [5:27:14 PM] Emeth: They are. Remember this Ishtar Gate forum from which I was banned because my posts were 'incomprehensible' and because I 'attacked' another member (DD)?
    [5:27:21 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [5:27:54 PM] Sirius 17: well every forum we ever tried to share on, kavassilas, ishtar , ect they all banned us too
    [5:28:04 PM] Sirius 17: it still blows my mind
    [5:28:21 PM] Emeth: Well calling those messages 'incomprehensible' did it for me and I knew to give the sharing of data on any forum not Thuban affiliated a miss
    [5:28:49 PM] Emeth: I mean the 'creators' and owners of the forums are the 'culprits' there, not the contributors
    [5:28:56 PM] Sirius 17: even on FB, i share stuff on there sometimes, but no one reads it anyhow
    [5:29:00 PM] Sirius 17: TLTR as you say
    [5:29:03 PM] Emeth: What is Ryan's or Cassidy's or the Ishtar chicks 'qualifications' to judge scientific data?
    [5:29:51 PM] Sirius 17: right, this is true, it has alwys been the forum admins who ban us
    [5:30:01 PM] Sirius 17: none
    [5:30:03 PM] Emeth: Not once in 3 years did we receive ANY challenge of the data, scientific and metaphysical
    [5:30:27 PM] Sirius 17: they can't seriously challange it
    [5:30:47 PM] Emeth: Nevertheless, we challenged many Nabs sources and quasi scientific data like from Kavassilas and Haramein and Keshe
    [5:30:52 PM] Sirius 17: they have no formal way of disecting it at all
    [5:30:58 PM] Emeth: No replies to any of this
    [5:31:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes i wonder if Rok got a reply on his email
    [5:31:25 PM] Sirius 17: i doubt it lol
    [5:31:27 PM] Emeth: Roger Penrose is 81 years old Raven
    [5:31:46 PM] Emeth: I like it though, that he tried
    [5:31:49 PM] Sirius 17: and he still teaches?
    [5:31:55 PM] Emeth: I dont know
    [5:33:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have thought about sharing with my physics professor
    [5:33:12 PM] Sirius 17: i told him about you a little
    [5:33:29 PM] Sirius 17: just said i had a friend who was a physicist
    [5:33:52 PM] Emeth: Hmm, direct him to the Thuban Higgs Boson threads
    [5:33:54 PM] Sirius 17: because i was asking questions over peoples heads about stuff and he asked me where i learned that
    [5:34:15 PM] Emeth: This is nicely linked to the mainstream physics
    [5:34:34 PM] Sirius 17: can you send me the JCR publication?
    [5:34:41 PM] Sirius 17: or a link to it
    [5:34:46 PM] Sirius 17: i dont have it on this computer
    [5:34:54 PM] Sirius 17: i lost all that stuff on the old hard drive
    [5:35:06 PM] Emeth: Anyone understanding the basics here, might see the connections to the cosmology and so on
    [5:35:18 PM] Emeth: Ok, wait please
    [5:36:21 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i dont know if it is his thing, cosmology
    [5:36:35 PM] Sirius 17: he is more into newtonain physics i think
    [5:36:49 PM] Sirius 17: but i like him
    [5:37:02 PM] Sirius 17: there is some weird attraction there
    [5:38:48 PM] Emeth: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?cid=013FB748-B352-43F8-A1C7-67ACE25DDF8F
    [5:40:05 PM] Sirius 17: ok i see it there
    [5:40:31 PM] Emeth: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=3F675EE4-A97E-421B-8711-5678E3A0638A&fid=AB84B38A-1FF5-407B-9263-F02AC909DDFE
    [5:40:48 PM] Emeth: This one brings in Newton at the introduction
    [5:41:01 PM] Sirius 17: how many pages is the publication
    [5:42:32 PM] Emeth: The Consciousness one?
    [5:42:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:42:48 PM] Sirius 17: damn it sucks you have to pay now to download the pdf
    [5:43:06 PM] Sirius 17: i was just going to download it and print it off
    [5:43:11 PM] Sirius 17: and give it to him
    [5:44:11 PM] Emeth: 162-179 in the JCER publication; 18 pages
    [5:44:30 PM] Sirius 17: can you download the pdf and send me the file?
    [5:45:41 PM] Sirius 17: i can't even log in because i forgot my password and login details
    [5:45:50 PM] Sirius 17: and i am not sure if i have to pay or not
    [5:48:55 PM] *** Emeth sent 137.pdf ***

    [5:49:50 PM] Sirius 17: great thanks
    [5:50:20 PM] Emeth: Yes, JCER went commercial and I can't sign in either anymore
    [5:50:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will print this off and add the link to it
    [5:50:51 PM] Sirius 17: he should of given you free access as a contributor
    [5:50:56 PM] Sirius 17: dumb ass lol
    [5:51:11 PM] Sirius 17: why did he decide to charge anyhow?
    [5:51:16 PM] Emeth: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=35C6E5FE-8B8B-45B1-BF72-9DCE133289BA&fid=770AB61A-2FC7-4172-9755-5D6EA2D3666E
    [5:51:18 PM] Sirius 17: stupid idea
    [5:51:53 PM] Emeth: Dont get me wrong; I should be able to get there if I can recall the log in details; but this site was for free downloads before
    [5:52:12 PM] Sirius 17: it should of remained free
    [5:52:22 PM] Sirius 17: if huping had a brain
    [5:52:26 PM] Emeth: It now is commercial and they changed or extended editorial function or whatever
    [5:52:40 PM] Emeth: I am not in communication with Huping atm
    [5:52:44 PM] Sirius 17: he could of took donations or whatever
    [5:53:14 PM] Sirius 17: because the stuff he published is real research, it should be accessable to the general public too
    [5:53:19 PM] Sirius 17: free
    [5:53:22 PM] Emeth: He is trapped in academic notions of the 'Quantum Brain' Raven
    [5:53:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes, they all have their own ideas
    [5:53:42 PM] Emeth: He eschews anything not academia endorsed
    [5:54:06 PM] Emeth: So I was surprised, he took as much interest in me as he did
    [5:54:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [5:55:28 PM] Emeth: But the problem was that he compared me with this Michael Cecil moron, who thinks he is the reincarnation of Mohammed or something and Huping must have analysed some of the discussions (if you can call it that), I had with Cecil on some forums linking Christianity and the GOT to science
    [5:56:08 PM] Sirius 17: yeah so he wanted a debate
    [5:56:18 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=3F675EE4-A97E-421B-8711-5678E3A0638A&fid=AB84B38A-1FF5-407B-9263-F02AC909DDFE
    [5:56:24 PM] Sirius 17: should i share this link with it?
    [5:56:27 PM] Emeth: So this work was edited and published as a discourse between Cecil and me and I made it clear from the outset to Huping, that I considered Cecil a deluded religious 'nutcase'
    [5:56:50 PM] Sirius 17: i just want to give him one link but i dont want him to get lost in it all
    [5:56:51 PM] Emeth: Sure
    [6:00:18 PM] *** Sirius 17 sent JCR Publication.pdf ***
    [6:00:33 PM] Sirius 17: ok i added the link at the bottom
    [6:01:22 PM] Emeth: Excellent
    [6:01:58 PM] Emeth: So you can edit pdf files?
    [6:02:14 PM] Sirius 17: well i guess
    [6:02:31 PM] Sirius 17: it was strange i chose the edit feature and copy pasted the link
    and this is how it turned out
    [6:02:54 PM] Sirius 17: saved it under a different name
    [6:03:07 PM] Sirius 17: so now i have two pdf files, the orignal and the one i edited
    [6:03:34 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know if you can edit the text though, but it appears you may be able to add to it
    [6:03:42 PM] Emeth: Good safekeeping, the journal is called JCER though and not JCR
    [6:04:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i am going to print this off anyhow
    [6:04:13 PM] Emeth: Journal for Consciousness Exploration and Research
    [6:04:16 PM] Sirius 17: if i send him the pdf i will send the orignal
    [6:04:29 PM] Sirius 17: i just labeled it quickly
    [6:04:35 PM] Emeth: Just rename your edited pdf
    [6:04:36 PM] Sirius 17: forgot the e
    [6:04:44 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i can do that
    [6:06:30 PM] Sirius 17: i think it would be cool to give him a printed copy though, just hand it to him and smile lol
    [6:06:44 PM] Sirius 17: and say, here, i thought you might enjoy this
    [6:07:24 PM] Sirius 17: and something to the effect, oh you remember i mentioned my physicist friend, well he wrote this.
    [6:08:15 PM] Sirius 17: and use the link if you would like to read more of his work lol
    [6:08:23 PM] Sirius 17: just casual like that you know
    [6:09:07 PM] Emeth: Cunning Griffin you are at times
    [6:09:34 PM] Sirius 17: i actually want him to read primal energy
    [6:09:47 PM] Sirius 17: wish i could put that into pdf
    [6:09:51 PM] Sirius 17: i have no idea how to do it though
    [6:10:37 PM] Sirius 17: but this is good enough for now
    [6:11:12 PM] Sirius 17: let him read the JCER publication and see if he comments on it
    [6:11:21 PM] Sirius 17: says anything to me about it lol

    [6:12:08 PM] Emeth: May 8th, 2011



    Dear Tony,

    Thanks for your prompt reply. As I said, this is for academic discussion only and I do appreciate you inputs.

    Regards, Huping

    May 8th, 2011
    Hi Huping!
    Thanks for this feedback indeed. I am as bemused as your 'professional friend' is amused by his commentary.
    Indeed there are 'two authors'; namely the 'mainstream defender' and the holistic metaphysicist.
    Yes I shall keep this confidential as per your advice dear friend.
    As you can discern, your friend 'lost track of the holistic thought train' by meeting certain vocabulary like Maya and Dragon Science and other 'esoteric' labels.
    Then you can add the words 'God' and 'Jesus' and 'bible' and such and my essay would become even more 'non sensical'.
    I do not apologize for this. My agenda is like yours and many others; namely to show the ontology of the cosmogony before a logical and selfconsistent cosmology can emerge from their preconstructions. And this of course places the 'God concept' and the 'spirit' central to such and any similar undertaking.
    Your friend has only read this essay artifically in claiming that I misidentify the Schwarzschild radius of the Earth with the nanochip at the 'starcruiser' to 'simulate' Gaian gravity.
    All this is made clear in the article on a detailed perusal of the formulations.
    The nanochip or nanocrystal links directly to the ZPE AFTER 'tapping' the vacuum through and by the wormhole access via the Black Hole mimicry of the planet.
    The diameter of the earth in the basic Einstein metric is so 2 centimetres and this 'volume' becomes 'nanochipped' and allows the Consciousness inherent in space to become a decisive parameter.
    Your friend does not follow the many derivations about the 'dimensionless ratios' for example. This is the secret of M-Theory see Huping. Namely, that the T-Duality renders frequency BOTH as inverse time parameter and as higher dimensional time.
    The quantity 1/hc³ is indeed dimensionless IF the 'spaceinherent consciousness' is used in the ZPE definition as a quantum selfstate.
    Energy=hf in Joules say but in the higher-D intersection E=hf=1/e* where e* becomes 'mapped' as the product of the classial electron diameter and the proportionality E/m=c² and this has the units of the StarCoulomb C* AS the Inverse Joule of the lower dimension say.
    So then e* has mensuration units 2Relectronxc²=LengthxVolume and this leads to the StarCoulomb C*.
    Now the quantity 1/hc³ carries mensuration units 1/(Joulesxsecondsxmeters³/seconds³) = 1/(Joulesxmeters³/seconds²) = 1/(JxC*)= dimensionless.
    So your friend, as a typical 'mainstreamer' one might say; has 'jumped the gun' with his 'professional judgements'.
    Thank you Huping and all the best to you and Maoxin.
    Tonyblue


    May 8th, 08:02 am

    Dear Tony,
    This is for academic discussion only and confidential. I asked a very open minded professional physicist to look at your following posting:
    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/quantumrelativity/message/8164
    and he has the following to say:
    ----------------------------------
    [T]hank you. The title of the extraterrestrial Wikileak was so amusing that I must copy it here to admire it!
    "The Gravity Simulation on a Starcruiser as the Antigravity of Extraterrestrial DragonSpaceTime Consciousness!
    The writer of the first half of the text could be a gifted science fiction writer-maybe he is! He clearly knows a lot about special and general relativity and also about other branches of physics.
    But then sudden change occurs. When the talk about ZPE and VPE of Omniscience of Maya, RESONANT ENERGY FIELD, and Dragon Science, begins, nonsense begins to leak to the text.
    For instance, author introduces number of wormhole quanta defined as the ratio of Earth's rest mass to the gravitational potential energy at its surface. Vortex Generator performs - and the piece of text is suggested to explain how this happens-Schwartschilding of Earth mass and the Schwartshcilded Earth mass corresponds to volume of about 10-8 meters:
    this is by the way much smaller than the blackhole radius of Earth so that new Mayan.Dragonian Physics going beyond general relativity must be involved clear.
    The conclusion is:
    "This then shows, that the entire inertia of a planet the mass of the earth can become 'Schwarzschilded' or holofractaled by the utility of dragon omniscience and under the auspices of the appropriate resonance membrane physics of the multidimensional and holographically interwoven cosmology"
    "This then shows..." after the lines of nonsense a stroke of genius!
    The remaining talk about consciousness identifying it as energy is even more surreal. Author seems to have lost his mind. All goes wrong, even the dimensions in the equations are wrong: h/f is claimed to have same dimension as hf and so on.
    Good example is following:
    "But this SQUARED TIME DEFINES the RESONANT EIGENSTATE of the ZPE of Gaian science as the VPE of Dragon omni-science and namely as the MAXIMUM for AWARENESS aw=df/dt, maximised as awmax=fps2."
    Only the use of boldface of course spoils the impressions of scientific jargon.
    For instance, the statement
    "A new fundamental ratio, namely {V*/Vsq=4π/hc³ or Rrmp/rps=Cuberoot[4π/hc³]=887.11336} so crystallises in the physics of the Dragons."
    is complete nonsense also mathematically since 1/hc³ is not dimensionless constant.
    If Mayan physics was degenerated to this level, it is easy to understand why their civilization collapsed clear. I hope that M-theory does not do the same for our physics!
    I have a strong feeling that there are two authors. The first one wrote the part of the text which tells standard facts in the language of Dragonians and the nonsense part is from somewhere else clear. . I would guess that this part of the text is produced by a computer program producing scientific looking nonsense. I remember that for some years ago someone managed to get this kind of nonsense article through the referee process (referees are scandalously lazy and trust their good luck!)and it would have been published.
    This saved my morning! Thank you!
    --------------------------------------
    Please let me know your thoughts.
    Regards,
    Huping

    [6:12:34 PM] Emeth: This was at the time of your 'Logos Vision' interestingly.
    [6:14:47 PM] Emeth: It relates to a forum post on antigravity, which was of course put into the basket cases of the Nabsers, without deeper analysis.
    [6:14:53 PM] Emeth: I found this here:
    [6:15:11 PM] Emeth: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=9BAB4446-BD79-4F15-8147-12B99CAA6F52&fid=770AB61A-2FC7-4172-9755-5D6EA2D3666E
    [6:15:42 PM] Emeth: So my 'schizophrenic mind' was indeed discovered, lol.
    [6:15:55 PM] Sirius 17: http://bellevuecollege.edu/directory/PersonDetails.aspx?PersonID=Hikuui8vQrXYarRMnI/kkg==
    [6:16:05 PM] Emeth: I am two in one; one a scifi writer and the other a vcomputer program, lol.
    [6:16:05 PM] Sirius 17: this is my professor, just says his name and such
    [6:16:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes you copy paster lol
    [6:16:30 PM] Emeth: And you know just WHO programed this computer in the logistical software lol
    [6:17:01 PM] Sirius 17: we do yes
    [6:20:05 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i can see he got lost in the verbage
    [6:20:15 PM] Sirius 17: stoped his brain right there
    [6:20:30 PM] Sirius 17: and obviously this guy cannot think out of the box
    [6:21:09 PM] Sirius 17: i wonder if just mathmatically and conceptually he simply could not follow the train of thought
    [6:22:24 PM] Sirius 17: god how horrendous this guy lol
    [6:22:45 PM] Sirius 17: he did not even give it a chance before tearing it apart to use his imagination
    [6:23:43 PM] Emeth: This is interesting yes. Because I can tell you, that even Huping could not follow the simplest derivation and asking me about just how the Euler Formula XY=X+Y=-1 can even exist in the Fibonacci related form must have earned his respect for me and my work.
    [6:24:21 PM] Emeth: Huping could not see the simplicity in the algebra of setting X+Y=-1 AND XY=-1 as is directly stated.
    [6:25:03 PM] Sirius 17: wow
    [6:25:22 PM] Emeth: Then Y=-1/X. Because he saw this after I stated it, he became more intgerested in what i said on the forums so 8 years ago nowX and this gives thje quadratic X²+X-1=0 upon simple substitution and this quadratic then solves for the Fibonacci roots
    [6:25:58 PM] Sirius 17: he could not do a quadratic?
    [6:26:47 PM] Emeth: He was 'mindblocked' I feel, by the Logos, because of the 'sacred Gepometry' connotation to a simple formalism
    [6:27:13 PM] Sirius 17: yeah as most will be who are not meant to get it
    [6:27:13 PM] Emeth: So this is the case with all the academics, who SHOULD and COULD understand the dragon science
    [6:27:27 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [6:27:29 PM] Emeth: YES, indeed this is what I am intuiting for many years now
    [6:27:57 PM] Sirius 17: its like a reverse of the pharasies holding the keys to wisdom, but this time its the Logos locking them out
    [6:28:07 PM] Emeth: You got it imo
    [6:28:15 PM] Sirius 17: cosmic justice
    [6:28:43 PM] Sirius 17: seems perfect to me that only those who are meant to know will understand
    [6:28:50 PM] Sirius 17: it will not be abused then
    [6:29:00 PM] Emeth: But this is what this 'email from his friend aalso shows. Put real science, maths and 'spiritual metaphysics' together and they cant read the stuff
    [6:29:10 PM] Emeth: This is clearly predicted in Isaiah
    [6:29:28 PM] Emeth: Yes wait I get it
    [6:29:31 PM] Sirius 17: no they cannot get past the words=swords
    [6:31:46 PM] Emeth: You will love this quote:
    [6:31:50 PM] Emeth:

    Isaiah 29:11-13 King James Version (KJV)

    11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
    12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
    13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

    If this does not describe the Thuban timeline from 2010 to 2013 nothing ever will
    [6:33:32 PM] Sirius 17: lol so true
    [6:33:50 PM] Sirius 17: 13 is great
    [6:34:23 PM] Emeth: So again, the dragon agenda IS in fact predicted or hinted at in the scripture codes written 3000 years ago, amazing is it not?
    [6:34:39 PM] Sirius 17: and i have said this many times to people, you have to BE the words, feel them in your heart, see with the mind that wrote them
    [6:34:57 PM] Emeth: Yes and it describes DD to a triple T indeed. 13=D=M=V
    [6:35:02 PM] Sirius 17: the human mind doesn't serve you at all reading it
    [6:35:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [6:35:49 PM] Sirius 17: sadly so
    [6:35:49 PM] Emeth: Nope the human mind is the great denier in this
    [6:36:49 PM] Emeth: It must be to maximise the Logos-AntiLogos polarisation, but only until the codes are deciphered and fulfilled and this time has now come and is at the doorsteps of all human mindedness
    [6:37:08 PM] Sirius 17: it is i feel
    [6:37:34 PM] Sirius 17: now more then ever as humanity is about to jump off into the abyss of its own self made demise
    [6:38:11 PM] Emeth: But related and interwoven with the fate of the planet Raven
    [6:38:31 PM] Emeth: Again see the appropriateness of Debra's Earth song
    [6:38:52 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i can
    [6:39:24 PM] Sirius 17: well i simply can't believe that the Logos will allow humanity to fuck itself and the planet over
    [6:39:28 PM] Emeth: Earth=Devil=Finance=Pride=Heart and contradictory terms on first view, but required for the polarities to play themselves into harmonisations
    [6:39:59 PM] Sirius 17: if it were that easy then we would of been struck by an astroid and wiped out
    [6:40:02 PM] Sirius 17: something
    [6:40:28 PM] Sirius 17: this is ground zero though for creation
    [6:40:30 PM] Emeth: So the Heart of the status quo is indeed the Devil=Finace=Pride, but this will become transformed in the Heart of the Earth in the Devil becoming Liveda as a new archetypical core energy
    [6:40:47 PM] Emeth: Yes it is the cosmic Baab nexus period
    [6:40:49 PM] Sirius 17: but this time it is a quantum event, metaphysical which will change the physical
    [6:41:08 PM] Emeth: The newest astronomy 'discoveries' show the bias in directions see that?
    [6:41:26 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean?
    [6:41:41 PM] Emeth: This bias is simply the perfect circle with one foucus centre becoming a squashed circle as an ellipse with two foci
    [6:41:49 PM] Emeth: The two foci are Abba and Baab. Baab is physicalised as Gaia earth and Abba becomes the dynamic reference point for GFaia's communication as the entire elliptical subspace, traced out as a focus spheroid in multiD
    [6:41:59 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok yeah
    [6:42:32 PM] Sirius 17: the nexus point of the earth
    [6:42:39 PM] Sirius 17: she is the source sink
    [6:43:24 PM] Emeth: This is Thuban Kindergarten Cosmology and yet it is TLTR for the human mind
    [6:44:12 PM] Sirius 17: God never meant for the mental separateness to exist, but the physical bodies yes, those boundries were indeed created for individuality and unqiue expression
    [6:44:22 PM] Emeth: No, Abba is like a EMITTING White Hole (Quasar-Blazar) as the Source Sink and Baab is the RECEIVING Black Hole Sink Source
    [6:45:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i worded it wrong, but understand she is the reciever
    [6:45:19 PM] Emeth: But from December 21st, 2012; Baab has begun to ACT as a Source Sink sending the received data back into the universe and so the dynamic Abba can in fact receive the gaian history for the first time in physicalised spacetime ever
    [6:45:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes the pole shift
    [6:46:00 PM] Sirius 17: and her unveiling to the universe
    [6:50:41 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.newsdaily.com/article/59ee49bd0af9106355e1781440eba84b/russians-find-mammoth-carcass-with-liquid-blood
    [6:50:46 PM] Sirius 17: did you see this in the news
    [6:54:40 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130530111307.htm
    [6:54:52 PM] Sirius 17: also comet ISON might collide with the sun

    [6:55:44 PM] Emeth: Well if it does, there will not be a 'great show' as if it would simply graze the solar vicinity Raven
    [6:57:03 PM] Sirius 17: well the article says it will go into the corona
    [6:57:16 PM] Sirius 17: if it survives without disintigrating it will be interesting
    [6:57:34 PM] Sirius 17: but it should still be visible with the naked eye
    [6:58:11 PM] Emeth: This is November yes?
    [6:58:24 PM] Emeth: Let me check the article, before saying anything more.
    [6:58:44 PM] Sirius 17: By December 10th, and given that everything goes well, Comet ISON may be a fine spectacle in the early morning sky as viewed from the Northern Hemisphere. Under dark skies, it may sport a long tail stretching straight up from the eastern horizon, from the constellations of Ophiuchus to Ursa Major. The comet will also be visible in the evening sky during this time but with its tail appearing angled and closer to the horizon.
    [6:59:38 PM] Emeth: The Gemini data lol. Do you discern the drift here, calling the analyser the Gemini probe?
    [6:59:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [7:00:22 PM] Emeth: The Cosmic Twin as the Egyptian Lion of Shu and Tefnut for one or Polllux and Castor, one mortal and the other immortal as the 'Dioscuri' in the mythology

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_and_Pollux

    330px-wlanl_-_artshooter_-_zeus,_hera_en_amor_observeren_de_geboorte_van_helena_en_de_dioskuren. castorandpollux.
    Zeus, Hera, and Amor observe the birth of Helen and the Dioscuri (Dutch majolica, 1550)

    [7:01:00 PM] Sirius 17: i think this comet is a significant symbol yes
    [7:01:11 PM] Emeth: December 10th is Cassandra's birthday, 22 in 2012, just as Debbie is in 2004
    [7:01:15 PM] Sirius 17: even the name of it
    [7:01:19 PM] Emeth: Oh I agree
    [7:01:20 PM] Sirius 17: I SON
    [7:01:34 PM] Sirius 17: or NOSI backwards lol
    [7:01:44 PM] Sirius 17: SION
    [7:01:45 PM] Emeth: Of course and I deissected this on the Conversation and Constitiution threads
    [7:01:48 PM] Sirius 17: IONS
    [7:01:58 PM] Sirius 17: yeah you did
    [7:02:05 PM] Emeth: Yes it is much about the real Sion compared to the Nbser and mainstream Zion
    [7:02:32 PM] Sirius 17: i agree
    [7:02:45 PM] Emeth: ZION=64=IS-RA-EL and I dont mean politics or geography here
    [7:03:12 PM] Emeth: 64=PETER as well and PACIFICAP my hijacked first email account
    [7:03:55 PM] Sirius 17: oh how did that turn out btw?
    [7:04:05 PM] Sirius 17: were you able to recover it?
    [7:05:04 PM] Emeth: Like Melchizedek=101 in the OT changing into Melchisedec=86 in the NT, so the old Zion=64 transforms into Sion=57=Birth=Gemini=Moon=Rose=... into its new self expression
    [7:05:19 PM] Emeth: It seems I lost the account
    [7:05:51 PM] Emeth: I have to wait the 30 days remember, before microsoft deletes the hijacking email address
    [7:06:29 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes i had forgot they said that, i thought maybe they might of been more expedient
    [7:07:02 PM] Sirius 17: [7:05 PM] Emeth:
    <<< Sion=57=Birth=Gemini=Moon=Rose
    yes, there it is :) emoticon-00100-smile.
    [7:07:35 PM] Sirius 17: i had better get to bed dear
    [7:07:43 PM] Sirius 17: i am getting sleepy
    [7:08:49 PM] Emeth: Good night Julienne
    [7:09:57 PM] Sirius 17: good night Tony
    [7:10:20 PM] Sirius 17: emoticon-00152-heart. emoticon-00155-flower. emoticon-00152-heart.
    [7:10:29 PM] Sirius 17: sweet dreams to you hon
    [7:10:49 PM] Emeth: Same to you Griffo
    [7:11:01 PM] Sirius 17: lol you called me by my name
    [7:11:11 PM] Sirius 17: you rarely do that
    [7:11:18 PM] Emeth: You carry many names
    [7:11:31 PM] Sirius 17: as do you
    [7:11:37 PM] Emeth: We know
    [7:12:14 PM] Sirius 17: emoticon-00135-makeup.
    [3:21:06 AM-Sunday, June 2nd, 2013 -+10UCT] Sirius 17:
    I dreamed I went to visit you again in Australia. This time your house was a bit different but it was still huge.
    [3:22:20 AM] Sirius 17: the first thing i noticed when i came inside was that you had bonsai trees and you offered me one of your pots from an arrangement that had died. You knew i had a perfect tree for it and you said here take this one for it.
    [3:23:22 AM] Sirius 17: your house was busy this time, a lot of people there. Your kids, grandchildren and friends throughout the house. I did not know how you could keep up
    [3:23:43 AM] Sirius 17: they were all wanting your attention, especially the little ones
    [3:24:03 AM] Sirius 17: and you turned no one down as you carefully paid attention to everyone
    [3:24:26 AM] Sirius 17: i was in admiration of your patience and energy
    [3:24:57 AM] Emeth: Right, this is what I am doing atm - babysitting. I am having issues with my grandson's steam account
    [3:25:11 AM] Sirius 17: I went downstairs and was visiting with your sons and a man knocked at the door and came in. He was a beautiful man and he went upstairs to your room
    [3:25:27 AM] Sirius 17: oh hey i did not know you would be awake lol
    [3:25:51 AM] Emeth: I am going to have a wash up, now the kids are finally asleep
    [3:26:17 AM] Emeth: So what did this man want?
    [3:26:39 AM] Sirius 17: anyhow i went up to your room because i was curious about this man and found him there with you in the bed. he was giving you a blow job and at first i felt rather put off by it but then for some strange reason it turned me on.
    [3:27:02 AM] Emeth: I'd rather have him have my core
    [3:27:09 AM] Sirius 17: and you said he was a special friend, because i questioned you
    [3:27:17 AM] Sirius 17: who he was
    [3:27:32 AM] Emeth: Hmm I do feel Debbie wanting to be shared intensely
    [3:27:48 AM] Emeth: Since May 30 actually
    [3:28:14 AM] Emeth: So this man ought to be one of her drones
    [3:28:30 AM] Emeth: All this is in template mode imo until July
    [3:28:33 AM] Sirius 17: and then the scene changed and we were in a male brothel and there were many men there who wanted you. I was blown away by it and i was sort of envious of these men because i wanted you too.
    [3:29:07 AM] Emeth: Again this is the femme in me you are surfacing
    [3:29:12 AM] Sirius 17: the whole dream was very busy and chaotic because of all these people around you
    [3:29:25 AM] Emeth: I am basically fully androgenised now
    [3:29:28 AM] Sirius 17: and i was a bit overwhelmed by it all
    [3:30:02 AM] Emeth: It is the waves coring with the particular bodyforms
    [3:30:15 AM] Emeth: This would be universal from July
    [3:30:33 AM] Emeth: It is the 'alchemical wedding' of Revelation 19
    [3:30:49 AM] Emeth: You are filtering archetypes
    [3:30:56 AM] Sirius 17: but then we were in your bedroom a lot and had a moment when we were alone and i went to kiss you and you rejected me again. You said to me that you wanted me but were afraid that the grand kids might come in, and they very well could of it was so busy.
    [3:31:09 AM] Emeth: Strange
    [3:31:20 AM] Emeth: I would not react that way
    [3:31:47 AM] Sirius 17: and i wanted you so much then, but then the scene kept changing to this male brothel
    [3:32:00 AM] Sirius 17: you were helping everyone in this dream
    [3:32:04 AM] Emeth: This seems to be your own juxtapositioning your fears and feelings of rejection
    [3:32:30 AM] Sirius 17: it was crazy how many people you knew and helped, i almost felt sorry for you because you had no time for yourself.
    [3:32:30 AM] Emeth: I want foursomes plus actually
    [3:32:46 AM] Sirius 17: you turned no one down
    [3:32:48 AM] Emeth: I see a male erotica around yes
    [3:33:02 AM] Emeth: But my core MUST be there, even in waveform
    [3:33:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes of course, i am just telling you what i remember of the dream
    [3:33:48 AM] Emeth: So I guess you are tuning into my arousal by erections blended with their desire to have my core
    [3:34:12 AM] Emeth: There is quite a bit to it, but your interpretation is a little off
    [3:34:59 AM] Emeth: Also I feel rather aroused to imagine being a drone to some other DQB. But her Kingbee MUST be there too, see this?
    [3:35:24 AM] Emeth: This is what is in my head, not male only stuff
    [3:35:38 AM] Sirius 17: well in the dream i only saw you as male ok and so i was a bit confused myself why it seemed you preferred these men. but you did not really have sex with them, you let them love on you. suck you and kiss you and such.
    [3:35:52 AM] Emeth: I would NOT prefer men, never
    [3:36:25 AM] Emeth: I like to fuck their cores just as much as they want mine
    [3:36:25 AM] Sirius 17: yes i know, why i was somewhat disturbed by walking in on you with this man the first time
    [3:36:38 AM] Sirius 17: but then it turned me on because he was so beautiful
    [3:36:38 AM] Emeth: It would not happen that way at all
    [3:36:53 AM] Emeth: Men get to me THROUGH my sharing and vice versa
    [3:37:03 AM] Emeth: This is loud and clear from the MILD
    [3:37:16 AM] Sirius 17: yes i know Tony, i am just telling you my dream, this is what was going on in my subconcsious
    [3:37:29 AM] Emeth: But this dream is similar to Xeia's and we should share this on core
    [3:37:56 AM] Emeth: Yes and I am adjusting your brain's filtering of the energyflow, which is very real
    [3:37:57 AM] Sirius 17: i am not making anything up here, i am trying to remember everything infact
    [3:38:07 AM] Sirius 17: i just woke up
    [3:38:40 AM] Emeth: This is very close. I felt intense lust since May 30th but this is a cosmic lust and desire and not a human fancy
    [3:39:06 AM] Sirius 17: and you and i traveled through Australia, it was though you had money but were not like super wealthy or anything. i remember you telling me we had many people to visit
    [3:39:49 AM] Emeth: Interesting
    [3:39:57 AM] Emeth: I wonder how this could manifest
    [3:40:09 AM] Emeth: Xeia and Rok were in the dream?
    [3:40:29 AM] Sirius 17: and we went all over to resorts and beaches and even the jungle and everyone knew you, knew who you were. i was so amazed by all of it. i felt i was learning more things about you that i never knew, seeing a new you.
    [3:40:45 AM] Emeth: Really, lol?
    [3:40:48 AM] Sirius 17: no it was just you that i recognized and your sons and grandchildren
    [3:40:56 AM] Emeth: You think far too much of me dear
    [3:41:27 AM] Sirius 17: of course i do dear
    [3:42:00 AM] Emeth: Dont set yourself up for disappointments
    [3:42:03 AM] Sirius 17: no one else was in the dream besides me visiting you and your family and all these people i did not know
    [3:42:19 AM] Sirius 17: but you knew them all
    [3:42:27 AM] Emeth: And I dont know them either
    [3:42:42 AM] Emeth: There must be a wavey Tony
    [3:43:15 AM] Sirius 17: well it was strange, because in the dream i had this idea before i got there that you were more or less a hermit and found out you were not lol
    [3:43:25 AM] Emeth: But I am
    [3:43:34 AM] Sirius 17: i know that hon
    [3:43:39 AM] Emeth: Well its my shadow lol
    [3:43:47 AM] Sirius 17: in the dream you were not though, you were super Tony lol
    [3:43:58 AM] Sirius 17: known by all these people
    [3:43:58 AM] Emeth: I do have the kids about a lot more now yes
    [3:44:43 AM] Sirius 17: yes and it was very endearing to watch you and the love and patience you had for them and the care you gave them all.
    [3:45:39 AM] Sirius 17: but this is pretty much all i can remember right now
    [3:45:54 AM] Sirius 17: i am still trying to wake up here lol
    [3:46:22 AM] Emeth: As said it reflects my 'state of eros mind ok', but the manifestoes would be different with a more female centred outcome
    [3:47:08 AM] Sirius 17: yes and i dont know what it means, i have such strange dreams
    [3:47:57 AM] Sirius 17: and many of my dreams lately seem to be involved with you and me and either you coming to see me or me coming to visit you
    [3:50:13 AM] Sirius 17: i have had dreams like this for years repetative dreams of houses only this time its like you are in them and i am traveling and realising different locations of the house. its always been my house that i have dreamed of in different settings. And now I am visiting you in your house.
    [3:50:43 AM] Sirius 17: trying to figure out what that means
    [3:52:24 AM] Sirius 17: like an alternate life yes that we are living, shadow self or wavey selves
    [3:52:39 AM] Emeth: The house is the skybourne mansions we can hope and not a locale on the surface of the planet
    [3:53:03 AM] Sirius 17: because its so real when i am there in the dream, and like i feel as though i have been there before
    [3:53:19 AM] Sirius 17: i hope so
    [3:54:04 AM] Sirius 17: i think that is why they are changing in my dreams. it is not just my house anymore, its evolving now and your house is there
    [3:54:31 AM] Emeth: Could be the Emerald City. Recall the obsidian rocks and stones?
    [3:54:43 AM] Sirius 17: yeah it could be
    [3:54:55 AM] Sirius 17: your house is huge always
    [3:55:28 AM] Sirius 17: you seem to live upstairs, that is where your room was this time
    [3:55:38 AM] Emeth: The city of light from the dark clouds was colossal
    [3:55:53 AM] Sirius 17: the rooms were expansive
    [3:56:08 AM] Sirius 17: they seemed to get bigger at times
    [3:56:20 AM] Emeth: I was never privvy of entering 'my old homage'
    [3:57:03 AM] Emeth: I wish I would dream about this sometimes but sofar zilch and this since 1988 or there abouts
    [3:57:23 AM] Sirius 17: i am going to go get me some coffee sweety, i will be back in a few
    [3:58:34 AM] Emeth: And I must shower and eat dear, so we call it a night and morning for now

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    empty. Aquaries1111 Today at 5:29 pm
    They live by the code y? Because it's a deco y

    Very active out of body experiences last night. I had the impression that possible flooding, tsunumi type of events could happen in Europe in 2 weeks. I am working to ease any devastation to Earth Spirits.





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    empty. Aquaries1111 Today at 5:50 pm
    Lyrics :

    Planet Earth, my home, my place.
    A capricious anomaly in the sea of space.

    Planet Earth are you just
    Floating by, a cloud of dust ?
    A minor globe, about to bust ?
    A piece of metal bound to rust ?

    A speck of matter in a mindless void.
    A lonely spaceship, a large asteroid.

    Cold as a rock without a hue
    Held together with a bit of glue.
    Something tells me this isn't true.
    You are my sweetheart soft and blue.

    Do you care ? Have you a part
    In the deepest emotions of my own heart ?
    Tender with breezes caressing and whole
    Alive with music, haunting my soul.

    In my veins I've felt the mystery
    Of corridors of time, books of history.

    Life songs of ages throbbing in my blood
    Have danced the rhythm of the tide and flood.

    Your misty clouds, your electric storm
    Were turbulent tempests in my own form.

    I've licked the salt, the bitter, the sweet
    Of every encounter, of passion, of heat.

    Your riotous color, your fragrance, your taste
    Have thrilled my senses beyond all haste.

    In your beauty, I've known the how
    Of timeless bliss, this moment of now.

    Planet Earth are you just
    Floating by, a cloud of dust ?
    A minor globe, about to bust ?
    A piece of metal bound to rust ?

    A speck of matter in a mindless void.
    A lonely spaceship, a large asteroid.

    Cold as a rock without a hue
    Held together with a bit of glue.
    Something tells me this isn't true.
    You are my sweetheart gentle and blue.

    Do you care ? Have you a part
    In the deepest emotions of my own heart ?
    Tender with breezes caressing and whole
    Alive with music, haunting my soul.

    Planet Earth, gentle and blue.
    With all my heart, I love you !

    - MICHAEL JACKSON -
    *PLANET EARTH POEM*


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    Jorgelito - Posted Jun 1st 2013

    Aquaries1111, I like your Earth Poem!

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    thurman - Posted Jun 1st 2013

    • Eleleth, the great angel, spoke to me. "It is I," he said, "who am understanding. I am one of the four light-givers, who stand in the presence of the great invisible spirit. Do you think these rulers have any power over you? None of them can prevail against the root of truth; for on its account he appeared in the final ages; and these authorities will be restrained. And these authorities cannot defile you and that generation; for your abode is in incorruptibility, where the virgin spirit dwells, who is superior to the authorities of chaos and to their universe.".

      Knowing that all unadulterated scripture is from a source of foreknowledge of the glorious salvation I am in bliss. Much like Merlin who myth tells us aged backwards or the secret wonderment best expressed as the square root of one.




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    Jorgelito - Posted Jun 1st 2013

    • Thurman, sounds like you're in a good spot -- for there can be no rulers. gods or demons over you. This is a matter of reality -- what is true -- not philosophy or religion.

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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Jun 2nd 2013

    2011 = (2)(0)(11) = 22 = A MASTER NUMBER
    2010 = 3 = A triad, A trine, A trinity
    2009 = 2+9 = 11 = A Master Number
    11 + 22 = 33 = A Master Number

    2012 - (13 moons in an ancient year)
    2013 - (13 moons in an ancient year)

    13+13 = 26 = god = dog
    2008 = 10/10/2008= 10/10/10 = The Real 10-10-10 occured on 10/10/2008 or 10 OCT 2008
    ~ Susan Lynne Schwenger
    aka The eXchanger
    aka The 13th Bridge

    There is also a lot of patterns to the years:
    2013 = 2(0)13=26 = The number of God / Dog - A master number
    2012 = 5/5/5
    2011 = 2(0)11=22= A master Number
    2010 = 3 - A Triad, A Trine, A Trinity
    2009 = 11 = A master number
    2008 = 10 = 10/10/10 or 1/1/1
    2007 = 9 = 9/9/9
    2006 = 8 = 8/8/8
    2005 = 7 = 7/7/7
    2004 = 6 = 6/6/6 or 2(0)(0)(4) = 8/8/8 (an infinite loop)
    2003 = 5 = 5/5/5
    2002 = 22 - A master number
    2001 = A triad, A trine, A trinity
    2000 = 2 = 2/2/2
    1991= 19-91 - A MIRROR YEAR or, 2 = 2/2/2
    1998 = 27 = 9 = 9/9/9
    1997 = 26 = 8 = 8/8/8 - 26 = A number of God/Dog
    1996 = 25 = 7 = 7/7/7
    1995 = 24 = 6 = 6/6/6
    1994 = 23 = 5 = 5/5/5
    1993 = 22 = A master number
    1992=21 = A Triad, A Trine, A Trinity
    or 19/10/1 92=11 = A master number
    1991 = 19/91 A Mirror Year
    or, 2 = 2/2/2
    1990 = 19/10/1 = 10/10/10 or 1/1/1
    1989 = 27 = 9/9/9
    1988 = 26 = 8/8/8 = 26 = The number of God/Dog
    1987 = 25 = 7/7/7
    1986 = 24 = 6 = 6/6/6
    1985 = 23 = 5 = 5/5/5
    1984 = 22 = A master number
    1983 - 21 = 3 = A triad, A trine, A trinity
    1982 = 2 = 2/2/2
    1981 = 19/10/1 = 10/10/10 or 1/1/1
    1980 = 18/9 = 9/9/9
    1979 = 26/8 = 8/8/8 or 26 = The number of God/Dog
    1978 = 25/7 = 7/7/7
    1977 = 24/6 = 6/6/6 or 19/10/1 x 76/13 = 13 = A master
    1976 = 23/5 = 5/5/5
    1975 = 22 = A master number
    1974 = 21 = 3 = A triad / A trine / A trinity
    1973 = 20 = 2 = 2/2/2
    1972=19 = 10 = 1 = 10/10/10 or 1/1/1
    1971 = 18/9 = 9 = 9/9/9
    1970 = 17/8 = 8 = 8/8/8
    1969 = 25/7 = 7 = 7/7/7
    1968 = 24 = 6 = 6/6/6 or 24 = The number of god/dog
    1967 = 23 = 5 = 5/5/5 or 19/10/1 x 67.13 = 13 A master Number
    1966 = 22 = a master number
    1965 = 21 = 3 - A triad, A Trine, A trinity or 19/1x65/11 = 11 A master number
    1964 = 20 = 2 = 2/2/2
    1963 = 19/10/1 = 1/1/1 or 10/10/10
    1960 = 18 / 9 = 9/9/9
    1959 = 17/8 = 8.8.8
    1958 = 23/5 = 5/5/5 or 19/10/1 x 58/13 = 13 A master number
    1957 = 22 = a master number
    1956 = 21 = A triad, a Trine, a trinity or 19/10/1x 56/11 = a master number
    - There are definite patterns here
    ~ Susan Lynne Schwenger
    aka The eXchanger
    aka The 13th Bridge
     
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