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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 7th 2013

First Contact between Old Earth and New Earth (Xylanthia Revisited) as an Extraterrestrial Sentience in the Starsystem of Sirius

http://xylanthia.com/

The wiki entry below calculates the distance scales to the nearest stars to the best approximations available using the present status of the technology of terrestrial science and astrophysics. It is observed, that the two nearest star systems to Earth are observed in the constellation of the Southern Cross and the 'brightest star' in the sky in the Dog Star Sirius, also known to the Thuban observers as the God-Star Sirius A or Alpha in the constellation of the Great Dog or Canis Major.

The 'Southern Cross' contains the Centaurian triple star system of Alpha Centauri, Beta Centauri and the closest known star to Earth in Proxima Centauri at 4.2421(16) lightyears.

The brightest star in the nightsky, as observed from earth is Sirius A or the Dog-Star of antiquity known as Sothis (Greek) and Sopdet (Egyptian) and its distance is measured to be 8.5828(289) lightyears as part of a binary star system with Sirius B or Beta and which is a White Dwarf star the mass of the Sun, but compressed to the size of a planet like the earth.

As can be ascertained from the completing diagram at the end of this message; the Thuban Commission of the World Logos stipulated December 8th, 2004 as the beginning of a warping timeperiod ending on March 31st, 2012 with a 265 gestation period to December 21st, 2012. On December 21st, 2012, the 'normal or long time' count ended in the prophetic encoding and synchronisation patterns as found in the ancient scrolls of antiquity and including the historical bible, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi documents.

Then from December 21st, 2012 onwards a contracted time scale of 'shortened days' came into effect and it is this time count which ends on June 17th, 2013 as the Image of March 31st, 2012 and also the 265 day offset of the 'cosmic pregnancy' permeating the entire time day count from March 18th, 2004 (265 days before December 8th, 2004) and July 5th, 2013 (265 days after October 12th, 2012) in 2935+2935/15=2935+195⅔ = 3130⅔ days.

3131 days are 3130.66/365.25=8.57129... 'Civil/Gregorian' years for the period in question and so the time for contact, being either the reception of a Sirian message sent from Sirius or received by the Sirian starsystem from Earth can be calibrated using the uncertainty of the measurement of the astronomical displacement scale under consideration.

The average displacement value for the Dog-Star is 8.5828 lightyears with an error spread of 0.0289 lightyears for an interval of 8.5539 - 8.5828 - 8.6117 lightyears.

For a lightspeed of 299,792,458 meters per second (SI units), this interval of 0.0578 lightyears or 0.0578x365.25=21.11 lightdays so becomes centred in a three week period of 10 days before and 10 days after a mean value day at the 8.5828 lightyear marker or nexus point.

8.57129.. lightyears are 8.5828-8.5713=0.0115 lightyears or 4.2 lightdays from the average value of displacement calculated for Sirius A. This then calibrates the 21 day period to be cosmically marked in July 4th-July 5th, 2013 as 21=10+1+10=6+4+1+10 days and beginning on June 30th-July 1st, 2013 and ending on July 21st-July 22nd, 2013 on Mary Magdalene Day 2013 and becoming midpointed on July 10th-July 11th, 2013 as stipulated by the error spread of the terrestrial measurements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

At the time of the beginning of the Dragon Made Warpzone (Dragon Made is an anagram for the coded label of Armageddon), a message can be said to have been sent between the cocooned or cosmically quarantined planet Earth and the Dog Star Sothis to mirror the binary Sirian starsystem in a male-female or yang-yin image of the local star Sol (Thuban's RaHSol) with its biovital planet partner Gaia or Earth. This signal then would arrive as a 'First Contact' between the 'outer terrestrial space' and the 'inner Gaean space' either as a signal sent from the God Star 'Father' to its exiled 'Mother' Gaia or Baab or vice versa as a returning or homecoming message from the cocooned cosmic mother planet to her original creator partner Abba, as the cosmic father sun.

It is deemed necessity by the cosmic jurisdiction and jurisprudence, to synchronise the historical linearised timeflow in a lower physicalized dimensional cosmology with its higher dimensional metaphysical progenitor. The linear timecount of 3131 days (3131=1331=26=8=∞=Number of alphanumeric ciphers or identities as 26 bosonic superstring dimensions) then defines the 'Path of the Light' as a cosmic Logos dispensation as the WORDS aka the SWORD of God as metaphorically symbolised by the GoDDoG Star in a modular duality monadized in the Abba-Baab archetypology.

The Zephaniah code 3.9 emphasizes this requirement of harmonisation of historical edifices and systems of thought, which are and were often considered mutually incompatible and often became factionalised in divisiory labels such as 'Reason of Science' versus 'Superstition and Fantasy of Religion' and similar semantifications.

Zephaniah 3 (KJV)

⁹For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent.

The 'pure language' represents then a new cosmic harmonisation and reconfiguration of previously often thought incompatible and opposing principles and statutes of legislature. The 'Lord' likewise is not some extraneous deity or entity of supernatural potency and origin, but the overall encompassment of the creation ex nihilo par infinitum itself. And those 'extrahuman' identities include all lifeforms terrestrial and extraterrestrial by definition of the nature of Abba and Baab as the original creator-creation dichotomy itself.

The 3131 days so complete the final three chapters, 20-22 in the 'Book of Revelation' in the Christian bible with June 17th, 2013 triggering chapter 20 and July 5th initialising chapter 21 in a 'resetting' of the cosmic code of the origins in the cosmogenesis of the cosmogony as the ontology for all possible cosmologies across all spacetimes and trimespaces. Details on the omni-science of the cosmic dragonhood can be found in the Thuban data bases.

From July 5th, 2013 a new cosmic lawfulness and encompassing all lower dimensional sciences, including its physical determinants will so come into effect. As is detailed in other messages, since December 21st, 2012 the 4-dimensional Minkowskian Euclidean 'flat' spacetime metric has become reconfigured into a 'curved' 5-dimensional timespace metric with one extra spacial dimension 'opened up' to allow a dedensification of all physical parameters.

This, in practical terms means, that this 'extra curvature spacetime' can be utilised for hitherto unmeasurable hyperphysical phenomena such as plasmic phase changes associated with so called UFO- and ET perceptions to be rendered 'physicalised'. This 'new dimensionality' is especially relevant for the energy cocoon or bubble around the Earth and extending so 2 million metric kilometres from the Centre of the Earth into the 'Bubble- or Noosphere space' surrounding it. Since December 21st, 2012, this 'planetary core' (Hill Sphere defined by a starsystems Lagrangian positions of gravitational equilibria) serves its cosmic agenda in opening the communication channels of the old planet Gaia as a new Starplanet Gaia Serpentina in geometrically defining the new 5-dimensional hypertimespace expanding at lightspeed from the Gaian centre into the old universe in this cosmic process and ambassadorahood of manifesting a new universe seeded on the old. This agency is more detailed in the references and links given in this message as the update regarding Starplanet Gaia Serpentina.

In view of those stipulations, it can be inferred, that no ET contact between Earth and any starsystem is possible until the message sent 8½ years ago has been received; despite the new hyperspace realm beginning on December 21st, 2012 having extended past the local solar system of RaHSol. At the time of writing on May 7th, 2013, the hypertimespace, centred on the core of the starplanet Gaia Serpentina, 136 lightdays have elapsed to cover a lightpath radius of
136x24x3600x300,000,000=3,525,120,000,000,000 meters or 3 trillion 525 billion 120 million kilometers or so 23,501 AUs (Astronomical Units). This will increase to 5 trillion 80 billion 320 million kilometers or so 33,869 AUs by July 5th, 2013 in a location of the so defined Ooort Cloud at the edge of the starsystem named after the local star RaHSol.

December 8th, 2004 as the beginning of the Thuban warpzone also contains a historical timemarker in the form of John Lennon, who 'dragonised' on December 8th, 1980 and so 24 years prior to December 8th, 2004. One of his most known composition is 'Imagine' written in 1971 and this song in words and melody is most appropriate as a cosmic signature connecting the human family to its extraterrestrial or cosmic inheritance and legacy.

John Lennon: October 9th, 1940 - December 8th,
1980

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennon

Star List

Stars visible to the unaided eye have their magnitude shown in light blue below. The classes of the stars and brown dwarfs are shown in the color of their spectral types (these colors are derived from conventional names for the spectral types and do not represent the star's observed color). Many brown dwarfs are not listed by visual magnitude but are listed by near-IR J band magnitude. Some of the parallax and distance results are preliminary measurements.

# Distance^[3]
Light-years (±err) Designation
System Designation
Star Designation
Star# Stellar class Apparent magnitude
(m_V or m_J) Absolute magnitude
(M_V or M_J) Epoch J2000.0
Right ascension]^[2] Epoch J2000.0
Declination^[2] Parallax^[2][4]
mas(±err) Discovery date Additional
References
Solar System Sun G2V^[2] −26.74^[2] 4.85^[2] — — — has eight planets
1 4.2421(16) Alpha
Centauri
(Rigil Kentaurus) Proxima
Centauri (V645 Centauri) 1 M5.5Ve 11.09^[2] 15.53^[2] 14^h 29^m
43.0^s −62° 40′ 46″ 768.87(029)^[5]^[6] 1915 ^[7]
4.3650(68) α Centauri A (HD 128620) 2 G2V^[2] 0.01^[2] 4.38^[2] 14^h 39^m
36.5^s −60° 50′ 02″ 747.23(117)^[5]^[8] —
α Centauri B (HD 128621) 2 K1V^[2] 1.34^[2] 5.71^[2] 14^h 39^m
35.1^s −60° 50′ 14″ 1689 has one known planet^[9]
2 5.9630(109) Barnard's Star (BD+04°3561a) 4 M4.0Ve 9.53^[2] 13.22^[2] 17^h 57^m
48.5^s 04° 41′ 36″ 546.98(1 00)^[5]^[6] 1916 largest known proper
motion^[10]
3 6.52(49) WISE
1049-5319 WISE 1049-5319 A 5 L7.5^[11] 10.7 J 10^h 49^m 15.57^s −53° 19′ 06″ 496 (37)^[12] 2013
WISE 1049-5319 B 5 T0.5^[11]
4 7.7825(390) Wolf 359 (CN Leonis) 7 M6.0V^[2] 13.44^[2] 16.55^[2] 10^h 56^m
29.2^s 07° 00′ 53″ 419.10(210)^[5]
5 8.2905(148) Lalande 21185
(BD 36°2147) 8 M2.0V^[2] 7.47^[2] 10.44^[2] 11^h 03^m
20.2^s 35° 58′ 12″ 393.42(070)^[5]^[6]
6 8.5828(289) Sirius
(α Canis Majoris) Sirius A 9 A1V^[2] −1.46^[2] 1.42^[2] 06^h 45^m 08.9^s −16° 42′ 58″ 380.02(128)^[5]^[6] — brightest star in the night sky
Sirius B 9 DA2^[2] 8.44^[2] 11.34^[2] 1844
7 8.7280(631) Luyten
726-8 Luyten 726-8 A (BL Ceti) 11 M5.5Ve 12.54^[2] 15.40^[2] 01^h 39^m 01.3^s −17° 57′ 01″ 373.70(270)^[5] 1948
Luyten 726-8 B (UV Ceti) 11 M6.0Ve 12.99^[2] 15.85^[2]
8 9.6813(512) Ross 154 (V1216 Sagittarii) 13 M3.5Ve 10.43^[2] 13.07^[2] 18^h 49^m
49.4^s −23° 50′ 10″ 336.90(178)^[5]^[6]
9 10.322(36) Ross 248 (HH Andromedae) 14 M5.5Ve 12.29^[2] 14.79^[2] 23^h 41^m
54.7^s 44° 10′ 30″ 316.00(110)^[5]
10 10.521^[13] WISE 1506+7027 15 T6 14.3 J 15^h 06^m
49.9^s 70° 27′ 36″ 310(042)^[13] 2011
11 10.522(27) Epsilon
Eridani (BD−09°697) 16 K2V^[2] 3.73^[2] 6.19^[2] 03^h 32^m
55.8^s −09° 27′ 30″ 309.99(079)^[5]^[6] believed to have two planets^[14]
12 10.742(31) Lacaille 9352
(CD−36°15693) 17 M1.5Ve 7.34^[2] 9.75^[2] 23^h 05^m
52.0^s −35° 51′ 11″ 303.64(087)^[5]^[6]
13 10.919(49) Ross 128 (FI Virginis) 18 M4.0Vn 11.13^[2] 13.51^[2] 11^h 47^m
44.4^s 00° 48′ 16″ 298.72(135)^[5]^[6]
14 11.208^[13] WISE
0350-5658 19 Y1 >22.8 J^[15] 03^h 50^m −56° 58′ 291(050)^[13] 2012
15 11.266(171) EZ
Aquarii
(Gliese 866, Luyten 789-6) EZ Aquarii A 20 M5.0Ve 13.33^[2] 15.64^[2] 22^h 38^m 33.4^s −15° 18′ 07″ 289.50(440)^[5]
EZ Aquarii B 20 M? 13.27^[2] 15.58^[2]
EZ Aquarii C 20 M? 14.03^[2] 16.34^[2]
16 11.402(32) Procyon
(α Canis Minoris) Procyon A 23 F5V–IV^[2] 0.38^[2] 2.66^[2] 07^h 39^m 18.1^s 05° 13′ 30″ 286.05(081)^[5]^[6]
Procyon B 23 DQZ^[2] 10.70^[2] 12.98^[2]
17 11.403(22) 61 Cygni 61 Cygni A (BD 38°4343) 25 K5.0V^[2] 5.21^[2] 7.49^[2] 21^h 06^m
53.9^s 38° 44′ 58″ 286.04(056)^[5]^[6] first star (other than Sun) to have its distance measured^[16]
61 Cygni B (BD 38°4344) 25 K7.0V^[2] 6.03^[2] 8.31^[2] 21^h 06^m
55.3^s 38° 44′ 31″
18 11.525(69) Struve
2398
(Gliese 725, BD 59°1915) Struve 2398 A (HD 173739) 27 M3.0V^[2] 8.90^[2] 11.16^[2] 18^h 42^m
46.7^s 59° 37′ 49″ 283.00(169)^[5]^[6]
Struve 2398 B (HD 173740) 27 M3.5V^[2] 9.69^[2] 11.95^[2] 18^h 42^m
46.9^s 59° 37′ 37″
19 11.624(39) Groombridge
34
(Gliese 15) Groombridge 34 A (GX Andromedae) 29 M1.5V^[2] 8.08^[2] 10.32^[2] 0^h 18^m 22.9^s 44° 01′ 23″ 280.59(095)^[5]^[6]
Groombridge 34 B (GQ Andromedae) 29 M3.5V^[2] 11.06^[2] 13.30^[2]
20 11.824(30) Epsilon
Indi
(CPD−57°10015) Epsilon Indi A 31 K5Ve^[2] 4.69^[2] 6.89^[2] 22^h 03^m
21.7^s −56° 47′ 10″ 275.84(069)^[5]^[6]
Epsilon Indi Ba 31 T1.0V 12.3 J^[17] 22^h 04^m 10.5^s −56° 46′ 58″ January 2003
Epsilon Indi Bb 31 T6.0V 13.2 J^[17] August 2003

Map of nearby stars

The following map shows all of the star systems within 14 light-years of the Sun (shown as Sol), except for four brown dwarfs discovered after 2009.
Double and triple stars are shown "stacked", but the true location is the star closest to the central plane. Color corresponds to the table above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars

Computing the Distance Between Two Stars

In this case of computing the distance between two stars, we are treating the stars as simple points in 3D space. So, finding the distance between them, becomes a simple matter of 3D trigonometry.

In astronomy, we generally give stars 3D spherical coordinates. They are the standard right ascension, declination and distance coordinates of the stars. On Earth we use longitude and latitude, in astronomy, we use right ascension and declination respectively as coordinates. These standard stellar coordinates are cataloged for many stars (Epoch J2000 is used here) and they can be used for 3D computations to the extent of their accuracy.

The 3rd coordinate, the distance, is often symbolized by R because it represents the radius vector (radius of a sphere), the line directed between the eye and star. The coordinates are envisioned as a grid drawn on the surface of an infinitely large sphere with our eye at the center and the star at distance R from the eye with apparent longitude (right ascension) and latitude (declination) coordinates as viewed projected against the sphere.

From the stellar spherical coordinates (α,δ,R), we compute the corresponding rectangular (X,Y,Z) coordinates from which the linear spatial distance (D) between two stars can then be computed.

For any given star, let:
α (alpha) = Right Ascension (0 to 360 degrees) = Celestial longitude
δ (delta) = Declination (0 to ±90 degrees) = Celestial latitude
R = Distance in light years

Given the spherical (α,δ,R) coordinates of a star, the corresponding rectangular (X,Y,Z) coordinates may be computed and given the spherical (α,δ,R) coordinates for two stars, distinguished by subscripts, to compute the distance between the stars, we first compute their corresponding rectangular (X,Y,Z) coordinates.
We now take the differences between the computed (XYZ) coordinates and finally, the distance between the two stars in 3D XYZ-space.

http://www.neoprogrammics.com/distance_between_two_stars/

Updated chart to show the significance of the Oort Cloud and the frequency of related 'cometary visitations relative to the anniversary of the December 21st, 2012 solstice with the solar sunspot cyclicity and a Calendar Calibration of the Maya of 5-Tzolkin in 260x5=1300 Kin or 'civil days' from

May 26th-27th, 2010 = 13Zip 13Ahau & 14Zip 1Imix to
December 16th-17th, 2013 = 18Mac 13Ahau & 19Mac 1Imix

The 5-dimensional 'New Earth' de Gaia Serpentina timespace matrix (or bubble) will have reached the 63,000 Astronomical Unit marker as a lightyear anniversary of the metamorphosis of the old planet into a starplanet

Details are in the thread above and in the Constitution thread on this forum

http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=E58E963A-634F-434B-9CE3-59F2D26B4D61

Emeth, April 12th, 2013

Update on Starplanet Gaia Serpentina's 5-dimensional timespace matrix and the occurrence of 'cometary visitations'

As the message preceding this update indicates; the above picture (said to be shrouded in an amount of secrecy according to the mentioned Nasa sources) relates to observed and implied changes in the magnetic fields throughout the solar systems of the local starsystem of Rahsol (or Sol as the local Sun, so 8 light minutes or 1 Astronomical Unit (1 AU) of so 150 million kilometres distant from the Earth).
As 1 AU is the distance between the Sun Rahsol and the Earth, it takes approximately 150,000,000/300,000=500 seconds or 8⅓ minutes for a light signal travelling at lightspeed 'c'=300,000 km per second to travel the distance between the Sun and the Earth.

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Zephaniah 3
King James Version (KJV)

¹Woe to her that is filthy and polluted, to the oppressing city!

²She obeyed not the voice; she received not correction; she trusted not in the Lord; she drew not near to her God.

³Her princes within her are roaring lions; her judges are evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow.

⁴Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence to the law.

⁵The just Lord is in the midst thereof; he will not do iniquity: every morning doth he bring his judgment to light, he faileth not; but the unjust knoweth no shame.

⁶I have cut off the nations: their towers are desolate; I made their streets waste, that none passeth by: their cities are destroyed, so that there is no man, that there is none inhabitant.

⁷I said, Surely thou wilt fear me, thou wilt receive instruction; so their dwelling should not be cut off, howsoever I punished them: but they rose early, and corrupted all their doings.

⁸Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the Lord, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.

⁹For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent.

¹⁰From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

¹¹In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.

¹²I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the Lord.

¹³The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.

¹⁴Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.

¹⁵The Lord hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the Lord, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more.

¹⁶In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack.

¹⁷The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.

¹⁸I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden.

¹⁹Behold, at that time I will undo all that afflict thee: and I will save her that halteth, and gather her that was driven out; and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame.

²⁰At that time will I bring you again, even in the time that I gather you: for I will make you a name and a praise among all people of the earth, when I turn back your captivity before your eyes, saith the Lord.

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I like John Lennon -- anything he does.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 8th 2013

On the Complexity of Quantum Time and the Demons of Humanity

I recommend this 'channeling' and shared message from MP33. It blends in well with the last dragon post.
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MP33 - Posted Sep 14th 2010

Energetic Consciousness, from Kryon, via Lee Carroll. There's more on healing capacity, as well.

This live channelling was Given in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia
Saturday July 17th, 2010

Greetings, dear ones, I am Kryon of Magnetic Service. The pendulum of reality swings yet again into my corner and there is an element of disbelief here. In a group of old souls, there is always this. They say it's too easy – too easy to fake. So we say this to you before we begin this discussion: It's about love… that's what it's about. It always has been and it always will be. It's not the love that you think, for there is a force in the Universe even your astronomers have recognized and seen and identified. They call it intelligent design.

They are correct, since the Universe itself is biased. It's biased in life creation; it's biased in love. There is conscious purpose for everything, and astronomers, scientists, physicists, they want to see a complete and total neutrality within all things, yet they don't find it. Isn't it funny that you have put your own idea of "the logic of the scientific method" right onto what you expect to see in the Universe? When you don't get it back from the study of the Universe, you don't wonder if the method is wrong, you question the data! That's funny to us!

We wish to discuss some of the things you are discovering, and also some of the things that you already are seeing but have not labeled correctly. The power that is starting to become yours requires the understanding of energies around you that you have never identified correctly. You wish to see many things as energy, when they are specifically "energetic information." So this is one of the first multidimensional channellings of a series that may last a long time and be given over time, that begins to explain to you in a better fashion the concepts that have been misunderstood or not explained at all.

There is a huge distance between the nucleus of the atom and the electron haze. If you could go with me to the smallest of the small, you'd find an enormous amount of emptiness there... a puzzling amount of it, actually. Physicists will tell you that most everything is "made of nothing," since the majority of mass is made up of this mysterious space in atomic structure. But it's only because science just can't see what's "in the dark." This is a phrase we will use for the 3D mind trying to examine a multidimensional reality. The multidimensional truth is this: Between that which is the nucleus of the atom and the electron haze, there seems to be nothing, but it is actually filled with energetic information, which science then calls intelligent design.
This is difficult to explain, especially how this manifests itself to your reality, but that is, indeed, the subject. So we'll start slow and easy.

Here is the Rose

There it is, my friends – a rose for you to imagine and examine. It's a beautiful, red rose, but perhaps you don't like it? You don't like the thorns, perhaps? Maybe you don't even like the color, perhaps? Maybe you don't even want a rose? So you say to yourself, "I'd like it much better if it was a daisy." But it's a rose. So you shrug and say, "My reality is that I have a red rose with thorns." Now, in single, dimensional digit thinking (3D), the scenario is static and unchangeable. It is what it is. It's too bad you got a rose when you wanted a daisy because it will always be a rose. If you could look at the seed that the rose grows from and germinates from, it will always be a rose. "Too bad," you might say. "It's forever a rose." So the consensus of thinking and the actions around it are this: It will always be a rose; therefore, I will never be able to change it. The concept of changing the rose in any way, or of actually creating a daisy from the rose, is not in your scope of thinking. You learned everything you know in 3D.

Now consider for a moment a multidimensional scenario, one where the master gardener visits the seed. Imagine for a moment that the master gardener can tell that which is the seed to systemically alter the information within the seed, to change what it is now to something else. So the next time the cells start to divide, the thorns drop off and the color changes. Or, perhaps, even maybe, a daisy grows instead!

Now, if this actually happened, what would you call this? The answer is, you would call it a miracle! Unbelievable! Impossible! We call it basic, multidimensional physics, ready to be discovered and understood. But your reaction is how you define things that look out of the purview of your dimensional reality. I want you to start looking at these things differently. I want you to start seeing energy that is multidimensional as energetic information. A tremendous amount of what you just call energy is only information. It leads us to the next phase of this teaching.

A Discovery Has Been Made – A Report

For now, we give you a discovery on the planet that has been made and is being used, and the discovery is this: You can change the information within the cells of your body. That is to say, science has discovered how to rewrite systemic portions of the DNA of the Human body – to change its informational structure. Not to belabor an issue [discussed many times by Kryon], but you must remember what the scientists discovered about DNA. Only 5% of the 3 billion chemicals in the DNA molecule are protein-encoded and gene producing. That is, 95% of the DNA chemistry seems to do nothing at all. So what you have is a DNA structure, a DNA loop that has 3 billion chemicals in it and 5% is the engine of the biological race car called the Human Being (gene producing), while 95% is the driver (telling the car what to do). Therefore, the largest part of DNA, which has been called "junk DNA" in the past, is a consciousness of instructions. It's energy. It's information, and it's huge!

What if you could change the information in those instructional DNA parts? What would you say to them? Well, let me give you an example of something that's already been done… a scientific breakthrough.

Rewriting the Information

Let us say that you're born with a deformed heart. Here is a heart that is not operating properly. The valves don't fit. Let us go on to say that that is who you are. You are a red rose with thorns. So, in your reality, you're going to die sooner, not operate normally, perhaps have to be on drugs when you're older, and you'll always have a deformed heart. Now, I want you to use some logic of the kind you have not used before and ask a biological question of significance. Since all of the organs in your body rejuvenate many times over your life, why is it that the heart remains deformed? Why doesn't the Human body repair it over time? Certainly it does a good job with skin injuries when healing itself (the skin is the largest organ of the Human body, after all). Why does it continue to create a deformed heart then, over and over, regenerating valves that don't fit?
Here is the answer: Because the systemic information in every heart cell remains static. That is, today, all the information in each DNA molecule of the heart that is systemic (stem cells) contains the blueprint for a deformed heart. Without something to change the energy of the information within this systemic system, it will always repeat what it has. A rose will always be a rose and the thorns will always grow there.

So, what if you could literally change the information in the 95% of your DNA? The majority of chemistry in your body is information, driving the car of health and regeneration. It's the driver of the car of chemistry and gene production. Is it possible to instruct it to go a different way, steering the genes to another creative place? Yes.

Science is starting to learn how to address basic cellular information, addressing the information energetically in DNA so that the stem cells are given a pattern of perfectness instead of the deformity.* Then, as the heart then starts to regenerate as all organs do, it slowly becomes a functioning heart with valves that fit! Is this science fiction? I'm telling you, it's being done now. For on the planet, multidimensional inventions are starting to occur. There will be many more. It will push the envelope of your believability and change physics. You've seen this and you don't even know you've seen it.

Changing the Human Body's Reality

I'll ask you some other questions that you haven't really thought about. We've brought these up before and now we can discuss them more fully. Why can a starfish grow back an arm and you cannot? It's because the basic programming DNA information in your body, in your DNA, in the information portion, won't allow it. Does this make sense to you? Can it be changed, or is that just too weird for you? Will you accept the ability to change these things, or will you run from them and call them ungodly, evil, and things you just "shouldn't do"?

These very things came to pass with the first heart transplants on the planet, and the reactions were predictable. It was out of the box of your reality and, therefore, became a religious controversy. This one will, too.

The race car driver, driving the information car of DNA, has instructed the chemistry in your body that changing the rose into a daisy is to be done only in the womb. Then the chemistry remains static and never is adjusted by the body. So the instructions are always that way every time a cell divides. So each time the deformed heart cell creates a new, fresh heart cell, it is from the same deformed blueprint. There'll come a day when you can change the instructions and you'll be able to grow back a limb. All of the chemistry is there, and it's not that hard. But the instructions at the DNA level say you can't do it, therefore, you have never seen it done and, therefore, you can't imagine it.

Changing Your Way of Thinking

The energy around you is changing and it's necessary for you to change your perceptions of what is around you – what is yours to manage and change and how you can actually call upon the creator inside to recreate what you thought was unchangeable. Many will see you as even stranger than they imagined you were, saying that you can manifest seeming miracles, but you are just learning the way things really work.

Imagine the race car driver in a splendid machine, but he is only able to give it instructions to turn left. That's what a race car driver does, you know? [left turns only] What happens to the driver when the race track straightens out and he doesn't know how to do anything but make left turns? You've got to change the information that he has and let him learn how to finally take advantage of everything his car can do. That is what is being done.

When the spinal cord is severed, there is chemistry that races to the place of the severing so it won't grow back. Did you know that? There is a hormonal protein structure that actually keeps it from growing back. How does that serve humanity? Well, it doesn't. It's a product of evolution, and evolution doesn't always produce the kind of result you might think. It's also slow and sometimes stops, depending on what the evolving species does. It's not perfect, and you can see this everywhere in the Human body – things that don't make sense.

Nerves are designed to grow back, yet they don't. Did you know that the nerves of the Human body even have addresses so they can find themselves and grow back? Yet in a spinal cord injury, they don't. It's because it is built into the race driver's information to the car not to grow back a spinal cord severing! This is an oxymoron in a biological structure that seems to be designed to survive, yet sometimes shows you differently.

There'll come a day when you can reprogram the systemic systems of your body with consciousness and invention. Stem cells exist everywhere in the Human body, alive and well. They are what pattern what happens. Chemically, they are responsible for a Human that is predisposed to disease. That predisposition then will be carried to the child and the imprint and the energy and the information of the 95% will continue and continue and continue, unless it's reprogrammed. Listen: It's not chemical! It's informational energy. It is multidimensional energy.

There is new technology coming to reprogram pieces and parts of the body at the stem cell level (systemic level). Do you know what this means? There are young women in the room who may carry a specific gene that their ancestors carried, one that will pass on the predispositions of cancers and weaknesses. Listen: When you can rewrite your genetic print, none who follow you will have it either. Do you understand what I'm saying to you? Your children and your children's children will only have the reprogramming that you do. They will not have the original information. The cells in your body will take the new systemic information and claim it as your blueprint and pass it to your children.

Energy is like that. Informational energy is like that, and there's a lot of it on the planet. There are systems on the planet that have been misunderstood for a long time. Let me give you a couple. This is controversial. You may not agree. You may not like it, but I'm going to give it to you anyway.

Ghosts – Multidimensional Information or Trapped Souls?

Humans love things that go bump in the night. They love to be frightened and they love to be scared. They love movies that scare them and they love haunted places. Have you seen the upsurge in the interest of haunted places lately? Much of your media is creating new shows around them.

Now, let me tell you what they are and why they work the way they do. Now we get into the power of the information of the Human lifetime and the Akash. Human consciousness carries an imprint that affects the planet and we have told you this from the beginning of our teachings. Human consciousness is what is going to change the planet. Human consciousness is information. It is information, not just random energy, that you develop based upon what you think and it's powerful. Human consciousness actually goes into what we have called the Crystalline Grid of the planet, which is a multidimensional grid. You can't see it, but it holds energy. It holds multidimensional information.

When we measure the planet for spiritual vibration, it is the Crystalline Grid that is measured. The Crystalline Grid only has on it what Humans have put there. It is an multidimensional record of thought, of lifetimes and of happenings. Why is it that certain land seems filled with old, layered energy of war and other land is clear and clean? The reason is always the same – it's what happened on the land that Humans created. Therefore, you already have the concept of Human energy affecting places.

Here's what I'm going to tell you: In certain conditions and in certain ways, a Human life or an interaction of multi-lives together in a profound scenario will create an energetic informational imprint in a place. It's information and energy that will replay itself over and over and over like a recording tape in 3D. You see it as a haunted house! So here is some of the things that will give you something to think about: Did you notice that in a haunting, you have a scenario that repeats itself over and over? Nothing new ever happens. The man comes down the stairs, the man goes up the stairs. The woman in the kitchen moves from the left to the right, sits in a chair, rocks for awhile, moves away. If it involved dramatic things such as murder, the man comes down the stairs with the ax, over and over and over and over. It's a good movie, isn't it? And that's all it is! "Why does it feel the way it feels, Kryon?" Because it's the result of a Human consciousness imprint and you've got one, too. When you're there overlapping with it, it gives you chills because it's real. It happened. It can even interface with you!

Now, science has gotten involved also, as they should. They're noticing something about true "haunted" areas. The imprint (the haunting) carries scientific attributes that are measureable and – ready – they're all multidimensional! Guess what changes they have measured in these places? Magnetics, gravitation, light and even time anomalies, because what it is, is a multidimensional event, imprinted onto a place on the planet that plays over and plays over and plays over. Multidimensional attributes also often carry temperature change, always to the cold side. We even told you that if you are going to develop a multidimensional lens, you will need to have a super cryogenic attribute. Do you remember? This is an attribute of things "out of 3D."

Can you capture it on your video recording devices? Yes. Because it knows it's being observed. (Just like light knows it's being observed in physics experiments.) Because it's part of an imprint that is multidimensional. In a quantum sense, it knows. I can't explain this to you, since your bias is that you assign knowing to specific consciousness. That is to say, you feel something can only know if it's intelligent and Human, or animal. This isn't either of those. It's a knowing that is quantum. Much of your quantum physics lets you see these very unusual attributes of light and magnetics where there is no distance or time. It's present here, too.

Don't ponder this too much, for you won't like it. You absolutely want and need for there to be an intelligent "soul" where you feel something seemingly intelligent. How can it just be information? The answer is beyond your experience, so you can't understand it. But multidimensional information seems to have what you consider to be "life consciousness," yet it isn't. Let me asks you this: When you interface with your artificial intelligence machines (computers), and they talk to you and call you by name, do you then panic and say there is a "ghost in the machine?" No. It's only code… information. Now, amplify that by a million-fold and you have multidimensional imprints.

How to Get Rid of a Ghost or Haunting

Oh, I have more to tell you. There are things that you wouldn't believe that you can do to change this imprint. How would you like to get rid of a haunting? Careful, you better not do it in a commercial area, since the tourists won't like it! [Kryon humor] They depend on the tape playing to sell tickets.

So, let's say it's in your house. You're going to have to present an energy that is stronger than the imprint of the haunting. Got that? You cannot order it away. It's not an entity, dear ones (told you it would be controversial). No amount of huffing and puffing or calling upon God will make it different. The imprint was created by magnificent, powerful beings (called Human), sometimes seeming to do ordinary things. There's a reason for that as well. I digress; you really don't know the profundity of old soul energy. Have you ever wondered why all the indigenous of the planet call upon their ancestors and give them the honor that they do? Because there is a knowing of the power that is there! Sometimes a person who seems to be ordinary to you instead is a very old soul and carries much information and energy to the grid. This is all about the Akashic Record that is contained in the Human DNA.

Back to the subject, to rid yourself of an imprint (haunting). You've got to present an energy that is stronger than the haunting. Now, what could that be? As inappropriate as it is, I will tell you. Why don't you bring lovers into that room? That will do it! That will do it because that's a much stronger energy than the information in the multidimensional "tape" that's playing. There are those who have been in love here in this room. There are beautiful secrets here that I know. Some of you know that I teach that the power and the energy of Humans coming together in intimacy, which creates a third energy, is far more powerful than the two creating it. It almost creates the sound of angels singing, far greater than any physical act. And you know it, Human Being. It is sacred. It's beautiful and stronger than any haunting. Maybe you didn't want to hear that today? [Kryon smile]
All right, perhaps you want another method? Then present the love of God in that place with celebration and ceremony that will eventually reduce the haunting to nothing, and will instead replace it with strong love energy of creation. It takes the powerful emotion of love! And, you might even call upon the ancestors for help. [bigger Kryon smile]

Even More Controversial

"But what about other things? Kryon, what about demon possession and those kinds of things?" So I will tell you this: It's far different than you think, because there are no demons. Humanity can conjure up the most evil things imaginable, and it can do it very well. But you knew that, too, didn't you? Because you're powerful, the pieces in God in you, even in your mythology, are responsible for the devil himself. A fallen angel became the devil? How can that even be? It can't. God does not create evil; Humans to. Evil is the metaphor of what a Human can do on the earth with the energy that they have. Things are not always what they seem, Human Being. Demon possession is the work of Human unbalance and supported by Human mythology. Is it real? Yes. But it's Human created.

You see what you believe and create what you wish to have there. Creating your own reality is one of the powerful attributes of the Human Being, and they can do it in the negative as well as the positive. You can even create the devil if you wish, with all the trappings of smoke and fire. This is free will. But be aware that it all will disappear when the light is turned on. This is a very difficult subject to convince you of. Humans always want a devil to blame for evil things.

Talking to the Dead: Different Than You Think

"What about talking to the dead? How would that work, Kryon? How could you talk to famous people when, in the scheme of soul incarnation, they've already come back as other people? If they've already left and their soul is back as another, how can you talk to them?"

The answer is this: They haven't left! Oh, the part that you think is the Human soul has left, but the imprint of their lifetime information and everything they knew – their consciousness, their wisdom, their knowledge – goes right into the Crystalline Grid and stays there. We've talked about this before. Can you contact famous people and get information? Yes. Will it be accurate? Of course. Because you're talking to the source information, which is accurate and represents their life. The imprint remains. "You mean you're not actually talking to them, you're talking to the imprint?" Let me give you something to think about. I'm going to ask a question right now. It's going to be a rhetorical one. Who are you? I have old souls in front of me and reading this. There's a woman in the room who won't wear red, and you know who you are. I'll tell you why. Because it got you killed! Because that was the color of the plume on your helmet, warrior. Because you were the captain and the enemy before you in that battle knew if they would take you out, your whole regiment would be in disarray and that's what happened. Wearing red not only killed you, it killed everyone around you! You'll never wear red. You just don't like the color. It's just not for you. You shun it, don't you, old soul? Therefore, as you sit here, who are you? Are you the warrior who got killed, or the woman in 2010 who won't wear red?

Indeed, it is a rhetorical question, because in my reality you are a piece of God. I see you in all your incarnations. You see? You can't wallow in the singularity of Human bias when you discuss these things. You are more than you think and, metaphysically, this is the way God sees you and the way you are just barely beginning to see some of those around you.

So, getting back to the question, when you wish to conjure up one who has lived before and ask them questions, who are you talking to? Are you talking to the Akash of a soul? Are you speaking to that which is alive or dead? I will tell you: None of those things are accurate because it's far more magnificent than that! We have told you before. Can you ask Aunt Martha where the treasure was buried? Yes. And she'll know! Why? Because you're talking to Aunt Martha's informational imprint and the information is the information, preserved in a form that you absolutely feel is Aunt Martha!

However, can you ask Aunt Martha, "How are things on the other side?" Go ahead, but the imprint has no idea! It will only give you the platitudes that it was told during the life of the Human it represents.

She'll say, "Beautiful."
"What's it like over there?"
"Lovely."
"No, give me some specifics."
"I love you."

She doesn't know! Aunt Martha's imprint knows what Aunt Martha knew, since you are not talking to anything actually on the other side of the veil. You think of it in singularity, but it's not. It's powerful, and it's real, and it can be accessed and even dialoged with. It's multidimensional and those with gifts can access the wisdom of the ancients. Go back and ask them what they knew. Go back and ask them how it felt. Go back and ask them where the treasure is buried. You're going to see some of this soon, but be aware – those in the places of power on this planet, wearing the costumes of spirituality and the heads of state in religion, will call it evil and will call it a cult. They do not understanding that you are moving into a multidimensional state—appropriate, accurate, true, useable, correct, helpful, and very much seen as something you should do. Asking the ancients what they knew will bring you full circle to what you are now studying.

Time is Complex

Let me give you a concept and this will be the last one. I've saved the complicated one for last, but it's my favorite one. We haven't done this before, my partner, so get it right. [an admonition for Lee to slow down and not be concerned that the channelling is too long]

I want to show you how time works, but I can't. It's because the reality of the complexities of multidimensionality preclude the Human Being's ability to understand it. It's simply not teachable in your 3D perception. So I will metaphorize it and give it to you in its simplest form, which is only a fraction of its reality.

Time. We mentioned today that it is a singularity for you. For the Human in 3D, there's only one time line. There's no multiple times, but rather only one and it's the one you're on, in your reality. You see it as a singular, straight train track into the future. It only goes one speed and one direction for your life and that of the earth. It doesn't move. The truth of it is it moves all the time. Another truth you don't understand is that each of you can step off the track and create a faster or slower one. You don't know that either.

How do we explain this? Let me singularize it and pretend you're all on the same track for a moment. That's what you think anyway, so that's easy. I want you to build a track in your mind, a train track that is time. I want you to put a locomotive engine upon it that goes in one direction very slowly, at one speed, and that's you and your life. You are riding the train car you create.
Now I want you to create the vision of this train track going all the way around the earth. Now, to your perception, because you can only see to the horizon, the train track goes straight. The truth of the matter is that this track you created goes all the way around the earth, so (aha!) it's in a circle. That means you're also looking at the same track as behind you. So this puts time in a circle, and so far you can visualize that, although what comes next is confusing.

It's a conundrum for you that time is in a circle, since in three dimensions, it's a straight line with a beginning and an end. By the way, you have no idea about how either one is created; the beginning and end are mysterious, but you still like to see it that way, for it suits you. But suddenly in this model, it is in a circle around the earth. So take a look at some of the attributes of time in a circle that are confusing to you. Let us say your lifetime takes about 30 meters on this track. Not very far, is it, but it lasts a lifetime? The train moves very slow as it goes around the earth. So you never have to really worry about meeting your past, do you? At 30 meters a lifetime, you won't ever meet the past. But let's pretend for a moment you could. What would happen if you drove that engine around the earth? Eventually, you would be running over the same energy of what used to be, wouldn't you?

In the same way of thinking, if you went around the earth several times, eventually you also might be running over what might become! Ah! Suddenly you have an attribute of time you haven't thought about. If it's in a circle, it means that the future affects the present! But in 3D, you think the future hasn't happened yet. But it has in a quantum sense. Remember that a true quantum state does not deal with empirical singular concepts. It deals, instead, with constantly changing potentials.

Now I'm giving you information and I'm giving it to you this way because there are scientists looking at it the same way I'm giving it to you. Is it possible that the future could give you energy and information now? Think of this train track for a moment and let's get more complicated. It's got layers now. Every time the train goes around the earth, it creates a past and a future. What if it was humanity in that engine? Now you have the past, present and future of everything that's ever happened on one train track in a circle.

Now, let's create a temporary situation where you could stop the train, dig down into the tracks, and pick up something that either hasn't happened yet or happened before. I didn't expect you to understand it, dear one, only listen to it. Because that's what's happening on the earth right now.
Let's add to the puzzle. Let's say this track has to go up some hills and down some valleys. The hills and the valleys are always the same with this time track. So as you go around and around, if you were smart enough and had a system that understood this time track, you might even create a map of the hills and valleys that your time engine will climb or coast down. You might even call them time fractals and you might be right. [Kryon smile] Every time you hit that place in time, whether it was in the future or the past, you got the same hill or valley.

What I want to tell you now is what's happening at this moment, dear Human Being. I just gave you the simplest way I can give you of the attributes of multidimensionality when it comes to time. You are visiting potentials that in your mind have not happened, but in a quantum sense have. You are receiving a vibrational increase on this planet so that you can look at the track of time and select where you want to go. You are looking at the potentials of the quantumness of a vibrational shift and creating a culture that is going to go beyond what you think it could. Because this information, it's going to fly in the face of all prophecy. Because prophecy is based on one track that does one thing over and over in 3D. But as soon as you start to become multidimensional, information becomes energy and on that track of time is information of the potentials of Earth.
Is it possible that the ancients knew this? Yes, they did. Is it possible that those in a potential future know this? Yes, they do. Against all your 3D perception, they do. It would seem like I just turned a page because there's someone in here who wants to know what a crop circle is, so I'll tell you. It's a good thing you ask, since it is a very intuitive question. Many crop circles are energy stamps from the future. How about that? Now you don't know anything more than you did before, do you? It does not make sense, does it. But perhaps with your train track example, you can at least see how it might work if everything was different than you believe it is.

You are currently in an entangled state with a reality that's outside of your dimensional perception. This is hard to teach when your reality has you in a straight line. It's even harder for you to understand. But it's easy to feel. Imagine the solution is upon you. Imagine those things that you're planning already are completed. Imagine yourself looking backwards and saying, "Now that wasn't too hard, was it?" Imagine the most perplexing things you brought to the meeting today, done and over with. Now, how do you feel about it?

Human Being, take a breath of quantum release and look at it like I can. Then, indeed, you are becoming quantum. And, in the finest sense, you've just created it. Congratulations. Now go from this place in your three-dimensional way and walk through the steps that you've already done.
That's my message. Information is energy in a multidimensional state. All things are possible since all things are changeable. If you've come here to this place or this page to see this, you are probably an old soul. For those are the ones who are awakening right now. So, old soul, you wouldn't have missed this, would you? I'm not talking about this meeting. I'm talking about this life. How many times have you lived waiting for this shift? What do you think the wisdom factor is in your Akashic Record? If you've lived and lived, how many trips around that track of time have you made? Do you understand that you are the ancestors? Now, do you understand that everything that ever was, and is, is in your Akash? It's available in your DNA. It's about time you started seeing it in that way. My partner says, "Leave differently than you came."
He got that from me.
Do it. And so it is.

KRYON

* FROM LEE: Kryon is speaking of research being done in Russia, which has just confirmed the ability to rewrite information at the stem cell level within the human heart, allowing it to regenerate in a more perfect manner, greatly reducing the chance of death or heart attack from enlarged hearts and common heart disease. It confirms the idea that stem cells exist everywhere and allows us to rewrite the "code" within the DNA, which is now being seen as information contained in the 95% of non-protein encoded DNA molecule. This technology will be available to the public soon, but only in Russia. More information is to come. I have seen the research while in Moscow, accomplished in main-stream Russian labs, and I will make it available on his Web site when appropriate and provide the research links to show it is real. The link will be in this channelling section.

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Jorgelito - Posted May 8th 2013

According to Kryon, I am an old soul. I personally do not believe in old soul & new soul (though many do). I know from somewhere deep down that we were "born" exactly exactly at the same time. We each choose our path. There is no path better or worse than another. When we look at another with eyes of soul we know without a doubt we are equal in every way.
By way of example . . .
If we want to spend 10,000 years experiencing being a rock -- knowing the solid, the heat, the cold --- well that's up to us. Others may take a fancy to exploring new worlds and universes. Both are OK. We are sovereign. No one gets to tell us what we should be doing. It's up to us what we want to do.

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Jorgelito - Posted 84 Minutes Ago

According to Kryon, I am an old soul. I personally do not believe in old soul & new soul (though many do). I know from somewhere deep down that we were "born" exactly exactly at the same time. We each choose our path. There is no path better or worse than another. When we look at another with eyes of soul we know without a doubt we are equal in every way.
By way of example . . .
If we want to spend 10,000 years experiencing being a rock -- knowing the solid, the heat, the cold --- well that's up to us. Others may take a fancy to exploring new worlds and universes. Both are OK. We are sovereign. No one gets to tell us what we should be doing. It's up to us what we want to do.

From the ultimate 'cosmic' perspective, I agree with you Jorgelito. All 'souls' are the same age in form, as the age of the universe itself. And I am at most times extremely suspect in regards to 'channelings', though I understand that all 'shards of creation' have the inbred capability to access and process 'cosmic' information (often called akashic records or such), relative to their 'filtering' dynamics of such data.
This Kryon 'movement' is however a little different than most others, because it actually does not eschew actual science as it has evolved in its historical contexts. An earlier 'channel', called Seth was similar in this regard.
Nevertheless, all such 'movements' and especially if they in any form or manner become 'commercialised' - which they have to be, if they are purposed to reach a significant audience - will lose a certain form of impartiality in their objectivity and subjectivity.
In the Seth-Roberts channel this became a great divergence between scientific insights (Seth actually predicted the new physics of the superstrings, decades before this entered mainstream physical model building) and the historical accuracy of the evolutionary path of the human civilization. Iow it got the science dreaming right and the cosmological ontology very wrong.
The Kryon-Carroll channel is better in this and I really cant fault their agendas, except their emphasis on the 'love and light' in their rather Nabs-like presentations, either in the UN settings or their travellings about the globe.
It does more 'good' than 'bad' however and is far less disinformative and deceptive as basically most other such 'alternative media and information' groups and websites.
So in 'defence' of Kryon's 'Old souls', I would say, heshe did not mean this in a form of 'how old' one is, but more on the level of particuar experiences chosen for this particular nexus in time. And this then is in alignment with your philosophy and cosmological thinking Jorgelito.
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Jorgelito - Posted May 9th 2013

Emeth, what you say of Kryon channeled by Carroll is gentle but also true. You mention a similar channel . . .
I enjoyed immensely The Education of Oversoul 7 (Seth-Roberts). In fact, I was inspired to read it several times!! It may not be true in detail (scientifically, historically), but for me it was on the mark -- true in the sense of being congruent with Center. I laugh with delight just thinking about the adventures of Oversoul 7!
So I agree if something, anything connects us to Center Of Things (no matter what belief system, view of reality or what form it may have), it is grace we experience and this is good by any measure.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 12th 2013

Annular Solar Eclipse 2013: Stunning Pictures of 'Ring of Fire' from Australia

By Simi John | May 11, 2013 03:18 PM EDT

Sky gazers in northern Australia and the South Pacific witnessed a remarkable annular solar eclipse on Friday 10 May. In an annular solar eclipse, the moon does not completely block the sun but leaves a fiery ring around its edges. The eclipse lasted between three and six minutes, depending where it was viewed from.

"For the three of us here this was our first solar eclipse, we have done many lunar eclipses, but this was just spectacular!" Michael Johnson of Columbus State University's Coca-Cola Space Science Center told Space.com, "During the maximum eclipse it was hard not to just stare at the sun."

Eclipse expert Jay Pasachoff travelled from Williams College in Massachusetts to Australia to view his 57th solar eclipse. He drove to a remote hill in the Outback about 30 miles north of the Northern Territory town of Tennant Creek.

"We can report good success in observing 4 minutes and 20 seconds of full annularity at the eclipse today," he said, "Much of the eclipse was viewed through thin clouds, though rarely after the first few minutes was the sun obscured."

The last partial lunar eclipse took place on 25 April. This year will witness a total of five eclipses - three lunar and two solar eclipses. The pictures of the solar eclipse were also shared on social networking sites by astronomers.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/466846/20130511/annular-solar-eclipse-2013-ring-fire-photos.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_May_10,_2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2013_lunar_eclipse

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Jorgelito - Posted May 12th 2013

Pattern of the Heart

http://www.superconsciousness.com/topics/knowledge/path-energy

Emeth,
The material of Kryon of Magentic Service has captured my imagination! The concept of Energetic Information is especially interesting.

We have a seed within us (a body of energetiic information) that determines the bodies and dimensions we experience. It's how we make our dreams come true. I see now it is a sound of note and syllable originating from a place of stillness deep in our heart (the place that feels like home where the love is).

It becomes alive when we breathe life into it and so re-creating ourselves with a pattern of Who/What/We/It of which we express at any one moment beginning at that instant. All matter is replete with life. But when we "breathe life" into it we alter the frequencies of the matter so that the life within glows with our thought and intention.

We can alter it, change it, modify it (just like DNA) through thought and intention and make it so by breathing life into it. At that moment, it exists (our 3D body may have to catch up); the sound (Energetic Information) then radiates through self and Self and co-creates like patterns in the Earth, the land and beings throughout the universe. Whatever we choose will be part the evolutionary scheme, but we can now be active particpants!

This body of energetic Information in whatever form it may be is a body. We however are without form, infinite and unbounded in everyway without beginning or end.

PS This helps me remember things -- not to educate dragons or any other beings

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Jorgelito - Posted 95 Minutes Ago

Pattern of the Heart

http://www.superconsciousness.com/topics/knowledge/path-energy

Emeth,
The material of Kryon of Magentic Service has captured my imagination! The concept of Energetic Information is especially interesting.

We have a seed within us (a body of energetiic information) that determines the bodies and dimensions we experience. It's how we make our dreams come true. I see now it is a sound of note and syllable originating from a place of stillness deep in our heart (the place that feels like home maybe in the center of the Earth someplace). It becomes alive when we breathe life into it and so re-creating ourselves with a pattern of Who/What/We/It of which we express at any one moment beginning at that instant.

We can alter it, change it, modify it (just like DNA) through thought and intention and make it so by breathing life into it. At that moment, it exists (our 3D body may have to catch up); the sound (Energetic Information) then radiates through self and Self and co-creates like patterns in the Earth, the land and beings throughout the universe. Whatever we choose will be part the evolutionary scheme, but we can now be active particpants!

This body of energetic Information in whatever form it may be is a body. We however are without form, infinite and unbounded in everyway without beginning or end.

PS This helps me remember things -- not to educate dragons or any other beings

I rather agree with you Jorgelito. In the updated chart I termed this the "Metamorphic Self Image", as you can see.
It is my understanding however; that the physical manifestation of the grand cocreative potentials of the old human stock do require a linearisation of the quantum nature defining and causative for existence itself. This then 'brings the heavens down from their pedestals and forces the hells to rise up from their abysses' and they so can then be used as metaphorical dispensations of the 'real' 'powers that be' and rather distanced from the pretentious, albeit often thoughtful and ingenious human minded pretenders.
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The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
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Jorgelito - Posted May 12th 2013

Emeth, you have cultivated a literary style not unlike that of James Joyce! They're still pouring over his novels literally word by word trying to figure out what he said!
OK. An attempt I make because I'm interested in what you have to say.
Physical manifestation you refer to is actually cosmic manifestation. This is everything that is what is -- right now -- in every universe at this moment. It is cocreative because the manifest universe is comprised of energies and these energies are of frequency -- which are freely shared -- thus making co-creation a fact of physics not metaphysics. Furthermore, with respect to humanity, this quantum process (i.e. a physics outiside the continuity of time) finds expression in a linearization on Earth brcause we live in time. Not everyone does.
Heaven and hell are themes both of unity and separation, awakening and enslavement. We get to decide. That there is such a thing as a Metamorphic Self Image is amazing! I venture to say most people are not aware that it even exists.

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SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted May 13th 2013

any ideas why my dad picked 08 MAY 2013 at 11;01pm est to depart ?

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any ideas why my dad picked 08 MAY 2013 at 11;01pm est to depart ?

It is rather close to the alphaomega midpoint of the Cosmic Pregnancy reconfiguration in the message above Susan. And adjusting your local time to UCT, will add 4 hours to give you May 9th, 2013 03:01 UCT and this is the Solar Eclipse/Taurus New Moon - Ascension Thursday of 2013, also emphasized in the chart.
It would be an individual 'soul contract' thing though, how one aligns one's own life path experiences to this.

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SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted May 16th 2013

Thanks, he was born 10/31/1931 at 10.31pm est (hamilton, ontario)
and, he weighed 10 lbs 3.1 oz (a triple 10-31 trick or treat) - a hallowe'en eve baby

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 15th 2013

Logos Dispensations Continued

[13/05/2013 8:06:43 PM] Emeth: I found your avatar and added it to the messages under discussions
[Wednesday, May 15th, 2013 -+10UCT]
Sirius 17: I finished it
[11:58:22 AM] Sirius 17: I had a very strange dream about you
[12:00:30 PM] Sirius 17: We were making love in front of many people and I was riding you very passionately. All of a sudden just before we climaxed you shouted at me to stop and I did. I was sort of in shock because you were so adamant about it, I felt rejected in that moment and it seemed you were implying that I had done something wrong or not right, I am not sure. I woke up shortly after this.
[12:04:35 PM] Sirius 17: I was vacillating on whether or not to tell you about it. The energy was so intense while we were making love, it seemed perfect to me, I didn't want it to end infact. It kept bulding and building in intensity. I was like an animal ontop of you, insatiable. I woke up wondering why the hell I dreamed this, why you stopped me.
[12:14:38 PM] Sirius 17: I also started my period yesterday and I am emotional...yeah

[2:22:38 PM] Sirius 17:

Re: Aquaries1111 Corner
Post Aquaries1111 Yesterday at 9:14 pm

Thank you Merc and Carol.
I did notice some time past Carol when you swiftly deleted some disgusting Thuban posts from Raven and Fates (a new member) who just signed on to impress everyone here about his character. I have no qualms with the Thubans. I respect their religion, as I respect All religions. So for both of you who do such a fine fine job in sweeping the carpets around here and decorating it so nicely that visitors continue to come.
My humble gratitude to you both.
Candle in the Wind The Karen Candle in the Wind
[2:39:10 PM] Sirius 17: Re: Aquaries1111 Corner
Post Aquaries1111 on Sat May 11, 2013 10:43 am
Book 2 – The Dreaming
6 The First Dreaming
1 Dream is. Dream exists.
2 I am dreaming.
3 All is dreaming.
4 Dreaming is mind in motion.
5 Knowledge in motion is Dream.
6 Dreaming is a system of awareness in motion.
7 Dreaming is Existence. Existence is Dreaming.
8 The rules of existence in motion.
9 Dreaming is a matter of degree. Matter of degree is Dream.
10 Dream is argument of perception.
11 The dreamer and the dream.
12 The real and the unreal.
13 Within the dream looking out. Outside the dream looking in.
14 A dream has rules. If it did not, it could not be.
15 A dream has boundary. If it did not, it would not be.
16 Dreaming is Life. Life is Dreaming.
17 Within the dream, everything that happens is real.
18 Outside and through the dream, everything is spirit.
19 Dreaming is your dream. Your dream is Dreaming.
20 You are the dreamer.
21 You are within the dream.
22 You are the dream within.
http://one-heaven.org/sacred_texts/book/Yapa/a/20.html

[2:39:27 PM] Sirius 17: I guess you have seen all these posts by DD already
[2:40:56 PM] Sirius 17: the asslicking by Carol and Merc is disgusting
[2:43:10 PM] Sirius 17: her first post seemed genuine, but it was just another way for her to dig her claws in it seems.
[4:08:06 PM] Sirius 17: Oh you found him, the little griffon
[4:08:24 PM] Emeth: Yes
[4:08:35 PM] Emeth: I dont know about this dream dear
[4:08:56 PM] Emeth: It fits my general impressions though about the cores now being made manifest
[4:09:06 PM] Emeth: This is very strong now
[4:09:20 PM] Emeth: Sex is only on if the cores are indeed shared
[4:09:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont know what it means either
[4:09:48 PM] Emeth: So I would say this dream means James was not there and MI-LD and therefore I said no or something like that
[4:10:01 PM] Sirius 17: there were many people there all watching us, but who i did not recognize anyone
[4:10:14 PM] Emeth: Yes and this is very appropriate now
[4:10:22 PM] Emeth: Try to look at it this way
[4:10:43 PM] Emeth: You are James watching Raven being fucked as himself
[4:10:51 PM] Emeth: He experiences the female self
[4:10:57 PM] Sirius 17: well i woke up confused, i know its a message from the Logos
[4:11:10 PM] Emeth: It is in this energy and does not mean any persona rejections
[4:11:16 PM] Emeth: It is Logos JCCJ
[4:11:21 PM] Emeth: Yes
[4:11:29 PM] Emeth: I am experiencing new energies too
[4:11:41 PM] Emeth: Same with Rok seemingly losing it again
[4:11:51 PM] Sirius 17: i mean i know it was not you who i was fucking but the Logos
[4:11:57 PM] Emeth: Yes
[4:12:11 PM] Sirius 17: you are my dream symbol for that for some reason lol
[4:12:32 PM] Emeth: 'Core Sharing' is the New World as cellular reproduction subbing all this old world sex imo
[4:12:51 PM] Sirius 17: but i felt total rejection, like when i woke up i wondered if i had done something wrong to displease the Logos
[4:13:13 PM] Emeth: Yes because we are like the symbol of 2 witnesses who must be perfect images in their yinyang
[4:13:18 PM] Emeth: mentally as waveform
[4:13:39 PM] Emeth: No no
[4:14:02 PM] Emeth: I am experiencing a 'missing sex energy' atm
[4:14:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes and then i thought again that maybe the Logos is trying to tell me that we cannot be cored, for some reason it wants me to understand something about that at a deep level
[4:14:15 PM] Emeth: So this is sort of complimentary'
[4:14:36 PM] Emeth: Yes and this is the yinyang as one
[4:14:56 PM] Emeth: We have the same cosmogenetic origin
[4:15:00 PM] Sirius 17: well i am despondent sexually lately, like really sad
[4:15:16 PM] Emeth: So unless we have individual cores, we cannot couple
[4:15:20 PM] Sirius 17: James and I have not had sex in quite a while
[4:15:34 PM] Emeth: Its all a mess imo
[4:15:42 PM] Emeth: Yes this DD stuff was obnoxious
[4:15:44 PM] Sirius 17: he will not initiate it with me and i am being stuborn and saying fuck it
[4:15:54 PM] Emeth: I could not work out her feather symbols
[4:16:11 PM] Sirius 17: he says it is just the way he is, waiting for the woman to initiate it
[4:16:13 PM] Emeth: Rok and Xeia are having troubles too
[4:16:25 PM] Emeth: This might improve by Sunday
[4:16:31 PM] Emeth: It is the 10 days recall
[4:16:37 PM] Sirius 17: i think the feather is another jab at you
[4:16:43 PM] Sirius 17: feather of truth
[4:16:48 PM] Sirius 17: hers
[4:16:51 PM] Emeth: Yes emeth, but I can't figure
[4:17:03 PM] Emeth: Could be!
[4:17:15 PM] Sirius 17: well i guess Rok got all upset at Xeias dream
[4:17:19 PM] Sirius 17: jealous
[4:17:26 PM] Emeth: She posted some obnoxious ucadia shit about FOC and 2015
[4:17:31 PM] Sirius 17: seems anyhow to me that is what happened
[4:17:34 PM] Emeth: As his 2012 apocalypse did not happen
[4:17:35 PM] Sirius 17: i have not talked to them
[4:17:46 PM] Emeth: Now they flog hollow eareth and heat particles
[4:18:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes its disgusting this ucadia crap
[4:18:05 PM] Emeth: This stuff is so bad I cannot but wonder how anyone listens to this moron
[4:18:36 PM] Emeth: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6445-operation-to-be-named-later-astroid-may-15-16th-info
[4:19:06 PM] Emeth: ANNUNAKI ARE COMING LOL
[4:19:26 PM] Emeth: This Carol is so deluded and should NOT be an admin on a public forum
[4:19:57 PM] Emeth: But I wont reply; I am over this lot
[4:20:16 PM] Sirius 17: no they are feeding off each others insanity
[4:20:21 PM] Emeth: I added the crucial chart to the Thuban thread and this is all I might do
[4:20:23 PM] Sirius 17: licking each others asses
[4:20:27 PM] Emeth: Insanity exactly
[4:20:54 PM] Emeth: I mean hollow earth and the phenomenon of 'heat' is a science conspiracy!?
[4:21:00 PM] Sirius 17: we had another mass shooting on mothers day here, 19 people injured, no one died thankfully
[4:21:10 PM] Emeth: This FOC is a nutter collossus
[4:21:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes he is
[4:21:34 PM] Sirius 17: the whole world is going fucking nuts
[4:21:40 PM] Sirius 17: including the nabs people
[4:22:01 PM] Sirius 17: its like a crescendo
[4:22:32 PM] Emeth: I was SOO disappointed seeing this as I thought she might be over this cult
[4:23:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes i figured you would be
[4:23:05 PM] Emeth: But she cant let Thuban go see this?
[4:23:14 PM] Emeth: I wonder how long this must go on
[4:23:15 PM] Sirius 17: i just looked today infact at mists and saw it
[4:23:24 PM] Sirius 17: i was like ....great
[4:23:35 PM] Sirius 17: no she cannot let us go
[4:23:47 PM] Emeth: She seems deeply troubled mentally
[4:24:00 PM] Emeth: And this somehow affected Rok and James
[4:24:02 PM] Sirius 17: its obvious in all her remarks that her mind is possessed by us
[4:24:26 PM] Emeth: Yes and by Sunday something must shift again
[4:24:55 PM] Sirius 17: my life has become a living boredom
[4:25:07 PM] Sirius 17: i am seriously so despondent
[4:25:10 PM] Emeth: Then June 17th then July 5th then September 12th and the equinox
[4:25:19 PM] Sirius 17: melancholy is the major theme
[4:25:45 PM] Emeth: So those final 2 chapters might also run its course with the September date
[4:26:02 PM] Emeth: It is resigning time
[4:26:11 PM] Sirius 17: i sit here day by day wondering if this is all there will be....the world turning darker and the struggle to survive and a core whos sexual desire is in the dust, dead
[4:26:38 PM] Emeth: You need a wave core like me
[4:27:13 PM] Sirius 17: i am sad beyond belief really
[4:27:25 PM] Emeth: Ripper is going blind and is losing orientation
[4:27:41 PM] Sirius 17: awww poor baby
[4:28:02 PM] Emeth: So Adam is coming here Saturday and he talked to me and seemed more settled
[4:28:04 PM] Sirius 17: he is getting old
[4:28:08 PM] Emeth: So things are moving
[4:28:24 PM] Sirius 17: so will Adam stay with you then?
[4:28:28 PM] Emeth: This weekend is pentecost
[4:29:01 PM] Emeth: I dont know, the antidepressants seemed to have helped and the social worker said he opened up to some case worker a little
[4:29:18 PM] Emeth: I have to take it day by day
[4:29:23 PM] Sirius 17: he is coming saturday for a visit?
[4:29:31 PM] Emeth: He is being discharged
[4:29:45 PM] Emeth: I still have to talk to a local nurse now
[4:29:57 PM] Emeth: She might know more of his plans
[4:30:09 PM] Sirius 17: well when you talked did he seem less agressive to you....apologetic maybe
[4:30:27 PM] Emeth: Yes he was rather different
[4:30:33 PM] Emeth: He felt 'ok'
[4:30:51 PM] Sirius 17: well thats good
[4:30:57 PM] Emeth: Very strange as to what I was used to
[4:31:13 PM] Emeth: He worried about Ripper, thought him lost
[4:31:43 PM] Sirius 17: oh he didn't know you had him?
[4:32:12 PM] Emeth: I mentioned his 'blindness' to his doctor and the message must have been mixed up
[4:32:26 PM] Sirius 17: oh, yeah likely
[4:32:36 PM] Emeth: I said Ripper is missing Adam and they made it 'Ripper is missing'
[4:32:43 PM] Sirius 17: oh i see, yeah
[4:32:47 PM] Emeth: Yes
[4:33:08 PM] Sirius 17: well i hope everything works out for you and him
[4:33:39 PM] Sirius 17: at least he talked to you, thats a big step
[4:33:47 PM] Sirius 17: lost some of his anger it seems
[4:34:23 PM] Sirius 17: any word about Richard and when he will come home?
[4:36:52 PM] Emeth: Richard is still in hospital and I dont know
[4:37:07 PM] Emeth: Yes he seemed calmed down
[4:37:34 PM] Emeth: So I am busy reorganising things too
[4:37:59 PM] Sirius 17: have you talked to Richard at all lately?
[4:38:08 PM] Emeth: 2013 is a transition year as we said so try to just stay yourself without changing 'other people' futile this
[4:38:26 PM] Emeth: What hope is there for DD apparently?
[4:38:31 PM] Emeth: Same for James
[4:39:29 PM] Emeth: Did you decipher the MM days on the chart?
[4:39:50 PM] Emeth: MM-Day 2003 becomes the image of July 5th, 2013 and imaged in 2 birth mirrors January 26th, 2004 and December 21st, 2012
[4:40:08 PM] Emeth: This chart is simply the extension left and right of the main mandala
[4:41:52 PM] Sirius 17: i had to reboot
[4:42:38 PM] Sirius 17: no i had not, but i think you did say that before
[4:42:41 PM] Emeth: MM Day means this JCCJ coring
[4:42:52 PM] Sirius 17: that the MM day was on the 5th
[4:42:55 PM] Emeth: so whatever the Logos has in store this is a crucial nexus
[4:43:03 PM] Emeth: Yes
[4:43:05 PM] Emeth: 4-5 July 2013
[4:43:10 PM] Emeth: 22-23 July 2003
[4:43:31 PM] Sirius 17: you mean 2013
[4:43:43 PM] Emeth: No 2003
[4:44:28 PM] Emeth: You need to look closer at the codes
[4:44:55 PM] Sirius 17: i am barely alive lately
[4:45:00 PM] Emeth: The Logos trick here is that the 49 days are the cosntant and are interspersed by the code of the '3½ Times'
[4:45:15 PM] Emeth: Well you are the witness
[4:45:31 PM] Emeth: here so it is enough you are present somehow
[4:45:41 PM] Sirius 17: i wondered how much more we have to endure and if i can live through it
[4:45:51 PM] Sirius 17: if i will live
[4:46:07 PM] Emeth: As said July 5th is a turning point in the cosmic pregnancy
[4:46:34 PM] Emeth: You are 45
[4:46:46 PM] Emeth: what do you worry about dying?
[4:47:16 PM] Emeth: Our bodies no longer 'belong' to us as personas imo
[4:47:26 PM] Sirius 17: i am not worried about it, i just don't feel any life in me anymore
[4:47:35 PM] Sirius 17: i feel dead
[4:47:50 PM] Emeth: I understand this yes
[4:48:05 PM] Sirius 17: and that maybe my body will follow that feeling, i dont know
[4:48:08 PM] Emeth: I live in my dreamstate too
[4:48:47 PM] Sirius 17: i am so disgusted with the world and everything that is going on now i am not sure i want to live
[4:48:50 PM] Emeth: I had a lucid dream where I could lift my legs and use my heels and said this is not in Quenbeyan
[4:48:53 PM] Emeth: yet it was
[4:48:57 PM] Sirius 17: if i die, i die
[4:49:11 PM] Emeth: So this shows the dimensions are mixing and blending like your dream
[4:49:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes in the dream i had a young body
[4:49:35 PM] Sirius 17: so did you
[4:49:39 PM] Emeth: Yes same thing
[4:49:49 PM] Sirius 17: it was fucking perfect untl you yelled for me to stop
[4:50:12 PM] Sirius 17: and it was like lightening went off inside my head, it was painful
[4:50:13 PM] Emeth: There is a blending but like you said, we dont know what will happen to us in the old state
[4:50:32 PM] Sirius 17: and i woke up and just wondered wtf meaning does my life have anymore
[4:50:52 PM] Emeth: Hmm this seems to be the link to my lucid dream
[4:51:14 PM] Emeth: I was 'perfect' too or at least healing rapidly and then this letdown to 'reality'
[4:51:19 PM] Sirius 17: just full of questions really
[4:51:39 PM] Sirius 17: and i thought about telling you the dream, then i thought about not telling you
[4:51:46 PM] Sirius 17: i vaccilated all day about it
[4:51:54 PM] Emeth: I actually make sense of it all, but find it hard to 'believe' anything will come of it
[4:52:05 PM] Emeth: Nono never dont tell
[4:52:20 PM] Emeth: You know as a man I would not reject you
[4:52:22 PM] Sirius 17: well i felt ashamed, like i fucked up something
[4:52:32 PM] Emeth: Nono wrong impression
[4:52:46 PM] Emeth: It SHOULD have been 4
[4:52:59 PM] Emeth: This is what it means and it was from logos not me
[4:53:53 PM] Emeth: I became superaroused when you implied DD was poly again but from then on it more or less died
[4:53:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes and then my confusion came when i woke up and wondered what the hell it all meant, because i knew it was a message, i just couldn't read it
[4:54:05 PM] Emeth: Yes I could
[4:54:23 PM] Emeth: So did I really want to feel anything for this bimbo?
[4:54:25 PM] Sirius 17: then i thought all day, that maybe something had happend to you similar
[4:54:25 PM] Emeth: NO
[4:54:38 PM] Sirius 17: that maybe i was picking up on some kind of change metaphysically
[4:54:41 PM] Emeth: So WE are trapped in this atm
[4:55:24 PM] Emeth: BUT we are the Logos testimony keepers as per the NT
[4:55:54 PM] Emeth: So honour that and dont let the Logos down over our personal unhappinesses
[4:56:02 PM] Sirius 17: i was wild on you in the dream, like i fucked you like i have never fucked before, almost savage in a way, not abusive, just supercharged
[4:56:34 PM] Emeth: Yes see this is strange, I am having a diminished libido since i got this arousal
[4:56:49 PM] Sirius 17: i have had almost 0 libido waking
[4:56:54 PM] Emeth: So normally we synchronise; but this time we are complimentary
[4:57:05 PM] Sirius 17: i guess this was why i didnt want it to end
[4:57:12 PM] Sirius 17: when i woke up i was so sad
[4:57:14 PM] Sirius 17: wrecked
[4:57:33 PM] Emeth: And yes, I forgot to tell, there was multiples in this dream'
[4:57:45 PM] Emeth: It was leading into a couple sharing sexual thing
[4:58:06 PM] Sirius 17: i felt so alive in the dream and then when you told me to stop i felt great shame, disappointment, bewilderment
[4:58:14 PM] Sirius 17: then imedately woke up
[4:58:18 PM] Emeth: But it ended before anything happened It was like 'introductions'
[4:58:22 PM] Sirius 17: with these feelings all confused
[4:58:25 PM] Sirius 17: jumbled
[4:58:34 PM] Sirius 17: i didn't know where i was for a minute
[4:58:39 PM] Emeth: Well, It was not me as witness
[4:58:52 PM] Emeth: Dont worry
[4:59:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes i figured that out once i came to my senses
[5:00:00 PM] Sirius 17: and knew it was some kind of message
[5:00:15 PM] Sirius 17: what does the Logos want me to stop?
[5:00:38 PM] Emeth: Logos wants James to fuck my core and then we can fuck
[5:00:52 PM] Emeth: This is the emeth imo
[5:02:43 PM] Sirius 17: well this is the problem, James doesnt care about fucking period lol
[5:03:09 PM] Sirius 17: he thinks because he is 52 and he has had so much sex in his life he is good with that
[5:03:19 PM] Sirius 17: he is too old in his mind
[5:03:19 PM] Emeth: This is part of this
[5:03:45 PM] Emeth: The Old World must die in the perceptions
[5:04:01 PM] Emeth: Nothing I can say or do to change this, neither can you
[5:04:10 PM] Emeth: Reconfig
[5:04:18 PM] Sirius 17: no and its frustrating as hell
[5:04:27 PM] Sirius 17: i know there is nothing we can do
[5:04:36 PM] Emeth: Yes and we are stuck in our dreamtimes
[5:04:50 PM] Sirius 17: i almost dispise James now
[5:05:00 PM] Sirius 17: his fake BS mind
[5:05:09 PM] Sirius 17: i hate it
[5:05:30 PM] Sirius 17: it has taken him prisoner
[5:05:33 PM] Sirius 17: from living
[5:05:37 PM] Sirius 17: from life itself
[5:05:42 PM] Sirius 17: and i am fucking serious
[5:05:46 PM] Sirius 17: and me with it
[5:05:50 PM] Emeth: Right and Rok and DD?
[5:06:05 PM] Emeth: They are all human minded trapped
[5:06:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[5:06:42 PM] Sirius 17: i am trapped in him
[5:06:45 PM] Sirius 17: seriously
[5:06:49 PM] Emeth: James is 'too old' DD is 'the true dreamer of Nabs' and Rok is the 'nondreaming realist'
[5:07:15 PM] Sirius 17: his blackhole of a mind is distroying anything i thought was good in me
[5:07:21 PM] Emeth: Well for the time being I am trapped in DD, a mind I despise, yes hate for its vanity
[5:07:37 PM] Emeth: Same with you
[5:07:47 PM] Emeth: Trapped in falsehood
[5:07:50 PM] Sirius 17: same with Xeia apparently
[5:08:05 PM] Emeth: Yes, why does she continuie to 'love Rok'
[5:08:07 PM] Sirius 17: nothing could be more fucked up then it is now with us all
[5:08:12 PM] Emeth: Yes
[5:08:32 PM] Sirius 17: am i the only one that feels they are dying?
[5:08:46 PM] Sirius 17: i feel dead
[5:08:49 PM] Emeth: Who?
[5:09:15 PM] Sirius 17: i mean do you and Xeia feel this
[5:09:21 PM] Emeth: Ok, what happened between May 10th and 20th 31AD Raven?
[5:09:55 PM] Sirius 17: well pentecost for one then the ascension
[5:09:59 PM] Emeth: I was very worried about Ripper dying that night yes
[5:10:09 PM] Emeth: The other way around Raven
[5:10:41 PM] Emeth: So on May 9th and the annular eclipse on May 10th, 2013 the Ascension began
[5:10:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes was thinking of the two things, listed them backward sorry
[5:10:53 PM] Emeth: Did you see this pic?
[5:11:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[5:11:06 PM] Sirius 17: the ring of fire
[5:11:17 PM] Emeth: It is a strange time from there to Sunday
[5:11:20 PM] Emeth: Yes
[5:11:46 PM] Sirius 17: well i have been feeling for months now that i am going to die
[5:12:23 PM] Sirius 17: i keep waking up every day so apparently this feeling is unfounded
[5:12:24 PM] Emeth: I dont know Raven
[5:12:42 PM] Emeth: I want transformation not death
[5:12:46 PM] Sirius 17: its not dread i am feeling
[5:12:53 PM] Emeth: dying is pointless
[5:12:58 PM] Sirius 17: its more like....i feel dead already
[5:13:35 PM] Sirius 17: i want transformation too tony
[5:13:38 PM] Sirius 17: i dont want to die
[5:13:48 PM] Sirius 17: and forget
[5:13:49 PM] Emeth: And so?
[5:14:08 PM] Emeth: All we did and can do now is to stay stoic and true to ourselves
[5:14:18 PM] Emeth: NOT expecting others to change for us
[5:14:25 PM] Sirius 17: they won't
[5:14:38 PM] Emeth: No they wont
[5:14:47 PM] Emeth: They know better in their human arrogance
[5:15:31 PM] Emeth: Read the NT and then ask yourself if anything of this means anything, THEN changes must come just as it is said in the NT
[5:16:10 PM] Emeth: A small remnant, rejected despised and hated because it honours Jesus in thought, name and energy no fucking fakery
[5:16:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes we march to the beat of a different drum, not of this world for fucking sure
[5:16:58 PM] Emeth: Show me the website or group which does this in say a world friendly manner , meaning science oriented and against politics, economics and any form of exploitations
[5:17:07 PM] Sirius 17: lol i had a talk with this lady on fb
[5:17:28 PM] Emeth: Yes I saw you do a lot of facebook
[5:17:29 PM] Sirius 17: that was going pretty well until i mentioned Jesus sharing MM with the disciples
[5:17:41 PM] Emeth: It simply depresses you more
[5:17:59 PM] Sirius 17: well she came to me on a private chat with questions
[5:18:09 PM] Sirius 17: so i did my best to answer her
[5:18:30 PM] Emeth: The KEY is sex raven and there can be no other 'salvation', except human sexuality is erased in its present form and subbed by something new
[5:18:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes as i tried to tell her
[5:18:48 PM] Emeth: Look at all of history
[5:18:52 PM] Sirius 17: she got all prudish with me
[5:19:03 PM] Emeth: Most abuse and wars are phallic substitutes
[5:19:04 PM] Sirius 17: and said she couldn't imagine Jesus having sex
[5:19:08 PM] Emeth: Right
[5:19:14 PM] Sirius 17: and i was like OMFG
[5:19:18 PM] Sirius 17: ok never mind
[5:19:47 PM] Emeth: This is the true 'overcoming of the world', its own evolving history; looking for the beginning and not the end as per the GOT
[5:19:54 PM] Emeth: It is not politics or ptbs
[5:19:59 PM] Sirius 17: they are so completely ignorant
[5:20:00 PM] Emeth: It is the sex meme
[5:20:09 PM] Sirius 17: for sure it is
[5:20:37 PM] Emeth: And basically all humans are driven by it and then DENY it as 'evil or perverted or bad'
[5:21:07 PM] Sirius 17: yes it has gotten a bad wrap
[5:21:24 PM] Emeth: Pedophiles and celibates, warmongers, kings and queens it is always about reproduction of the human self in legacies and desires
[5:22:01 PM] Emeth: Thuban 'brings it out in the open' and is crucified for it
[5:22:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes no one ever thinks it is divine and sacred
[5:22:26 PM] Sirius 17: and NOT meant for selfish pigs
[5:22:28 PM] Emeth: Do the animals consider it 'evil'?
[5:22:32 PM] Sirius 17: no
[5:22:44 PM] Emeth: Only the true Devil does
[5:23:14 PM] Emeth: It is natural and this is how life itself evolved from unicellulars to multicellulars
[5:23:39 PM] Sirius 17: yes well we know this, but the memes are still here
[5:24:11 PM] Sirius 17: and rearing their ugly heads
[5:25:00 PM] Emeth: Human marriage is like the old primordial seas before endosymbiosis
[5:25:14 PM] Emeth: I think you can see the allegory here
[5:25:33 PM] Sirius 17: skype seems to be lagging for me
[5:27:07 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i do
[5:27:24 PM] Sirius 17: James keeps casually mentioning marriage to me lol
[5:28:05 PM] Sirius 17: and i am like...being my core is the true marriage, not some social construct
[5:28:40 PM] Sirius 17: he seems to think that a piece of paper makes it more valid
[5:28:50 PM] Sirius 17: i told him noooo, God makes it valid
[5:28:53 PM] Sirius 17: no one else
[5:29:09 PM] Sirius 17: no paper, no ceremony, no white dress and rings
[5:29:24 PM] Sirius 17: Love is the bond and it is eternal
[5:29:35 PM] Sirius 17: but it means we are One flesh
[5:29:53 PM] Sirius 17: and bound to each other in a way human minds do not understand yet
[5:30:01 PM] Sirius 17: totally free like the angels
[5:30:13 PM] Sirius 17: he gets this in concept
[5:30:21 PM] Sirius 17: but not in practice lol
[5:31:25 PM] Sirius 17: i know him asking me to marry him is an old world contract, meaningful only in the sense that humans think it means security
[5:31:28 PM] Sirius 17: its fake BS
[5:31:43 PM] Sirius 17: he is insecure of what he has
[5:31:50 PM] Sirius 17: or doesnt understand it
[5:32:20 PM] Sirius 17: i don't know, but i find it strange he keeps hinting at it
[5:33:17 PM] Sirius 17: but like DD and Rok, the Logos will have to help them to understand
[5:33:32 PM] Sirius 17: seems we can talk until we are blue in the face and nothing sinks in
[5:34:44 PM] Sirius 17: are you there?
[5:35:30 PM] Emeth: Yes I am sharing this
[5:35:55 PM] Sirius 17: oh god, why
[5:36:03 PM] Emeth: So better stop getting too intimate, if you feel uneasy
[5:36:19 PM] Emeth: It is Logos imo and should be part of the testimony
[5:36:26 PM] Emeth: I did not reject you
[5:37:06 PM] Sirius 17: i am telling you all this because no one else but you understands me
[5:37:34 PM] Emeth: We dont exist anymore as old humanms Raven. Can you see this now and relate to your 'death wish'?
[5:37:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[5:37:51 PM] Emeth: Yes, but Logos understands and is behind it.
[5:38:13 PM] Emeth: So we have nothing to lose here in this slaughterhouse
[5:38:20 PM] Sirius 17: its not a death wish Tony, its a LIFE wish....
[5:38:35 PM] Emeth: I thoight deeply about the NT the other day and it iks as written
[5:38:56 PM] Emeth: I know, but it is dying to the old to live for the new
[5:39:07 PM] Sirius 17: i think i have been dead my whole life really
[5:39:22 PM] Sirius 17: in the truest sense of the word
[5:39:35 PM] Sirius 17: this body is just a shadow of my true self
[5:39:43 PM] Sirius 17: somehow the two must merge
[5:40:09 PM] Sirius 17: i feel like i am walking through this life like a corpse
[5:40:16 PM] Emeth: Yes I realised this too. We are only merkabah expressions of something very big
[5:40:39 PM] Emeth: But those merkabahs are the SEED necessary
[5:40:42 PM] Sirius 17: this body is entirely weak and unable to contain me
[5:40:53 PM] Sirius 17: i need a new one
[5:41:17 PM] Emeth: Hmm yes, I think this is Baab as Body and Abba feels different here as the Mind
[5:41:33 PM] Emeth: So men have an easier time to experience the 'restrictions'
[5:42:58 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm i wonder if i can find my dream lover in dreams
[5:43:32 PM] Sirius 17: i mean really find him
[5:43:37 PM] Sirius 17: in a lucid state
[5:45:07 PM] Sirius 17: i read this book long ago about this man who would dream and wake up in another world where he was whole
[5:45:23 PM] Sirius 17: it never left my mind
[5:45:31 PM] Sirius 17: this idea
[5:45:39 PM] Sirius 17: and he would sometimes wake in this world
[5:45:49 PM] Sirius 17: in his crippled body
[5:46:58 PM] Emeth: Interesting
[5:47:17 PM] Sirius 17: sometimes i think it might be like that
[5:47:21 PM] Sirius 17: we wake up in the other world
[5:47:45 PM] Sirius 17: or the two merge
[5:49:12 PM] Emeth: The latter
[5:49:20 PM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Foul%27s_Bane
[5:52:01 PM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_Tree
[5:52:08 PM] Sirius 17: the One Tree was in one of my dreams
[5:53:02 PM] Emeth: And what does the One Tree require to exist?
[5:53:26 PM] Emeth: A Mustard Seed!
[5:53:50 PM] Emeth: And we know the ONLY ONE who can manifest this now dont we?
[5:54:03 PM] Emeth: And it is not some Nabs wanna be dreamer or selfdeluded pretender
[5:54:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[5:54:28 PM] Sirius 17: the staff of the law was made from the one tree in the books
[5:54:34 PM] Sirius 17: its been years since i read them
[5:55:37 PM] Emeth: This Law is the Jurisprudence of the Cosmos, all Life not just terrestrial. But the terrestrial is the seed as physical manifesto and expression of the cosmic
[5:57:07 PM] Emeth: All lower level expressions mimick and attempt to copy the primary. This is why you now have Nabs predictions of March 2013 then May 2013 then July and September 2013 on the Nabs sites
[5:57:28 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[5:57:35 PM] Emeth: They get it all upside down, thinking their 'remote viewings' and visions and dreams are primary Logos 'Word of I AM ALL' etc
[5:58:05 PM] Emeth: They are secondary effects, but try to share this real insider data with them as an exercise in futility
[5:58:15 PM] Sirius 17: no i knew this for a while now that there is a way to cross worlds, the higher dimensional and this one
[5:59:06 PM] Sirius 17: i always sensed something is merging, coming together in time outside of time
[5:59:33 PM] Emeth: Yes time is circular and quantum, but can and MUST UNFOLD in linearity
[5:59:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes for the space
[6:00:03 PM] Emeth: No Nirvana BS required as this negates the cosmic masterplan
[6:00:33 PM] Emeth: So the buddhistic stuff is actually quantum metaphysics, see that?
[6:01:01 PM] Emeth: It is quite true, but impractical for the bigger agenda
[6:01:47 PM] Emeth: It is like Quantum Mechanics, and 'too small to observe' in an interactive way, except in the 'uncertainty or statistical formalisms'
[6:02:21 PM] Sirius 17: well just like they did with Jesus in screwing up his teachings and the deeper gnosis, makes me get the feeling they did it with Buddha too
[6:03:13 PM] Sirius 17: because there is a lot of deep truth to what the Buddha knew and said
[6:04:31 PM] Emeth: Yes and did you see my sharing of your tantra temples?
[6:04:32 PM] Sirius 17: i can see why it appeals to people, i think he was able to be in the mind of God, but it failed in translation somehow
[6:05:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes i did, i found that video and thought it was a really well done about those temples
[6:06:01 PM] Emeth: The implication there is that it is ET related and this is what i see in the 'real buddhistic cosmology' too. Replacing the desirelessness in ignorance by a desirelessness informed of what should be desired in the ambassadorhoods of the cosmic desires
[6:06:02 PM] Sirius 17: and those temples show you that those people who built them understood the truth...no dietys in those temples, just women and men making love
[6:06:40 PM] Sirius 17: pure power and beauty
[6:06:45 PM] Emeth: Indeed
[6:07:08 PM] Sirius 17: they were before their time too lol
[6:07:13 PM] Emeth: Now relate this to the apparent interest of the 'aliens' in the sexual nature of the 'abductees'
[6:07:19 PM] Sirius 17: like the mayans
[6:07:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes true
[6:08:02 PM] Emeth: It is related to genetics yes; but also to the emotional bodies in between the physical merkabahs and the mental gestalts
[6:09:11 PM] Sirius 17: it is a transendence of 'worldly' things, buddism, but indeed some of them found the tantric path
[6:10:28 PM] Emeth: Well those temple images prove that physical sexuality is in no way to be eschewed but is in fact a medium for real transcendence
[6:10:44 PM] Sirius 17: oh definately it was
[6:11:23 PM] Emeth: It is just human mindedness and 'moral judgement' which renders the beautiful and erotic as ugly and disgusting
[6:11:52 PM] Emeth: And the 'author' of this confusion is the one and only 'Devil'
[6:12:03 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
[6:12:14 PM] Sirius 17: father of lies
[6:12:35 PM] Emeth: And then the ones and few who can see the truth, are themselves branded as evil and disgusting and perverted
You will see no sexual abuse on the tantra temples
[6:13:10 PM] Sirius 17: there was none
[6:14:23 PM] Sirius 17: i really believe whatever civilization that built them had transcended the abuse, the perversion
[6:14:34 PM] Emeth: Why some speculate it was constructed at least under the auspices of nonhuman minded ETs
[6:14:55 PM] Sirius 17: lol for sure
[6:15:02 PM] Emeth: The present world is the perversion mof cosmic nature raven
[6:15:04 PM] Sirius 17: they were not human minded no
[6:15:37 PM] Emeth: When people like FOC and Bonacci have the leeway to deceive seekers like they do
[6:16:04 PM] Emeth: You see Floyd has given up on MOA too?
[6:16:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes because humanity lost contact with the divine and instead started listening to the ideas in their head instead of nature
[6:16:29 PM] Emeth: He was one, who had some critical thinking faculty and gave up on the Nibiru worshippers
[6:16:36 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i have not seen him on there for a long time
[6:16:46 PM] Sirius 17: moa is dead anyhow
[6:16:50 PM] Sirius 17: so boring
[6:17:01 PM] Emeth: Yes 'ideas in their heads' is an excellent descriptor
[6:17:17 PM] Sirius 17: it has turned into a bunch of moronic ass kissers
[6:17:47 PM] Emeth: Yes, but I felt to share the new chart was appropriate
[6:17:55 PM] Sirius 17: sure
[6:18:02 PM] Sirius 17: they wont read it anyhow
[6:18:06 PM] Emeth: I doubt there is anything else we could share with them though
[6:18:34 PM] Emeth: I find it interesting, that we posted this mandala chart so many times
[6:18:44 PM] Sirius 17: and waldo is back, apparently ignoring the fact he has been called out as a spammer
[6:18:57 PM] Emeth: It has a logistical significance i am mostly unawares of
[6:19:33 PM] Emeth: There is noone on MOA I have any interest in sharing anything with Raven, well except JT and Susan and some nonposters
[6:20:09 PM] Sirius 17: falls on deaf ears anyhow
[6:20:18 PM] Emeth: Magamud was brainwashed too and seems to have slowed dow. Some of the things he said were ok
[6:20:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes he seems to of disappeared
[6:21:05 PM] Sirius 17: but have not been reading mists much at all , maybe once a week i check it
[6:21:18 PM] Emeth: So you have a nabs cult now and I say let them procrastinate to their hearts desires
[6:21:28 PM] Sirius 17: when i find CNN more interesting then anything MOA is saying, you know its bad
[6:22:15 PM] Emeth: As said
[6:22:16 PM] Sirius 17: that forum has lost all objectivity
[6:23:13 PM] Emeth: I really tried to give them some real science regarding asteroids and planets etc and from the metaphysical perspectives too and not just the actual science
[6:23:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes you did
[6:24:10 PM] Emeth: It is futile, they believe in their planets steered by ETs and the hollow earth and the oxymoronic laws of evil dracos and ucadian heavens
[6:24:26 PM] Sirius 17: i really miss the av1 days sometimes, when people asked real questions and there was real debate and discussion....seems you can't find this anywhere now
[6:24:58 PM] Sirius 17: everyone knows it all now
[6:25:00 PM] Emeth: Yes it was a true cauldron then of pros and cons
[6:25:27 PM] Emeth: You cant have this on MOA where Carol and Merc rule the metaphysical reality
[6:25:41 PM] Sirius 17: what do you make of raxane now?
[6:25:51 PM] Emeth: Without Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy on the old Avalon it went well
[6:26:10 PM] Emeth: As soon as they 'interfered' it all deteriorated and fell apart
[6:26:18 PM] Emeth: Same as before
[6:26:37 PM] Emeth: substance induced
[6:26:49 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[6:27:27 PM] Sirius 17: what did you think of xeias dream, about paulo being paul
[6:29:53 PM] Emeth: Yes I saw this
[6:30:17 PM] Emeth: Well it is like Xeia's apostles and certainly has credibility
[6:30:36 PM] Emeth: But most cant discern the personal from the cosmic identities
[6:31:06 PM] Emeth: Like identifying Xeia with the Dove of Noah and also as Martha
[6:31:11 PM] Emeth: It is not linear
[6:31:40 PM] Sirius 17: no it is symbolic i know
[6:31:43 PM] Emeth: It is multifaceted and many 'individuals' can also BE and carry the same energies
[6:32:02 PM] Emeth: This is the waveform encompassing all identities as snowflakes
[6:32:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[6:32:50 PM] Emeth: Like me carrying John's template nous. In some profound manner I must carry the remembrance, but nevertheless there can be many Johns
[6:33:19 PM] Emeth: Or James being James
[6:33:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[6:33:32 PM] Emeth: Like your Albert nous too see?
[6:33:34 PM] Sirius 17: many can tap into the nous
[6:34:04 PM] Emeth: Look how far you have come now in 3 years from the vectors of the geometry
[6:34:10 PM] Emeth: Yes
[6:34:37 PM] Emeth: It will be Logos who bestows the Cosmic ID onto the human individualities
[6:35:00 PM] Sirius 17: you know the latest research on his brain shows he had bigger and more glial cells, support cells in his brain
[6:35:28 PM] Sirius 17: he was a quick deep thinker
[6:35:50 PM] Sirius 17: but it seems proof also of some kind of template changes
[6:35:53 PM] Sirius 17: his brain did not age
[6:36:01 PM] Sirius 17: not like normal human brains do
[6:36:45 PM] Emeth: He was a unique conglomeration of the stemcells yes
[6:37:07 PM] Emeth: But I doubt this is physiological. Jesus would have also have some 'abnormal' characteristics in the way he thought and perceived things
[6:37:37 PM] Sirius 17: his frontal cortex also had more enfolding, more surface area
[6:37:59 PM] Sirius 17: no these are real physiological differences
[6:38:40 PM] Emeth: Well, I dont know Raven. It might be like the motto about statistics. You can read many things into the analysis
[6:39:32 PM] Sirius 17: well it seems to be some kind of epigentic change in the structure, they believe brought on by his way of thinking, his brain restructured itself.
[6:39:56 PM] Emeth: Whilst I fully support the scientific modus operandi, I do think that many things published are manipulated and many 'discoveries' and insights remain hidden from the mainstream journals and media outlets
[6:40:32 PM] Emeth: The medical vaccine and virus data is a poignant example
[6:40:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[6:40:55 PM] Emeth: Epigenetics is the true evolutionary pathway yes
[6:42:28 PM] Sirius 17: well sweety i am getting sleepy and i will head to bed now
[6:42:50 PM] Sirius 17: i need to get up early anyhow
[6:43:02 PM] Sirius 17: i have been very tired lately too
[6:43:08 PM] Emeth: Yes you feel a little better now?
[6:43:10 PM] Sirius 17: like falling asleep
[6:43:20 PM] Sirius 17: in the car or just sitting on the couch
[6:43:28 PM] Emeth: Yes I am sleeping a lot too. It is a sign of the times.
[6:43:40 PM] Sirius 17: i never was like this before
[6:43:40 PM] Emeth: Buenas Raven
[6:44:03 PM] Sirius 17: Buenas Tonylove
[6:44:22 PM] Sirius 17:

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Jorgelito - Posted May 15th 2013

Saying hello on the road . . .

Emeth, you paid me a visit today as I was driving down the I-5 to say hello and to straighten out some misconceptions. You said you are not of this star - star group - star matrix. You are not human (I'm OK with that even though I don't know what that means!). It is with some effort to step down your energies to that of Human -- density levels 1 & 2 (for most of us) in a 15 dimensional time matrix. It's tedious. You'd rather not even bother. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
I feel you to be a friend of some time. It was good to hear from you!

PS I will not take it personally if you choose to delete this post for whatever reason.

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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 16th 2013

Jorgelito - Posted 10 Hours Ago

Saying hello on the road . . .

Emeth, you paid me a visit today as I was driving down the I-5 to say hello and to straighten out some misconceptions. You said you are not of this star - star group - star matrix. You are not human (I'm OK with that even though I don't know what that means!). It is with some effort to step down your energies to that of Human -- density levels 1 & 2 (for most of us) in a 15 dimensional time matrix. It's tedious. You'd rather not even bother. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
I feel you to be a friend of some time. It was good to hear from you!

PS I will not take it personally if you choose to delete this post for whatever reason.

Hi Jorgelito!

So I visited you on your journey, well perceived; but I am as much Extraterrestrial as you are; the variance having more to do with individuated filtering quantum mechanics, than any incarnational feedback compensation.
I have heard of the Keylontians some years ago and even attempted to share some information on one of their yahoo forums some decade ago. And then I became 'entangled' in relatively 'vicious' engagements with rather avid and self assured 'followers' of the Azurite press aka the Nabs organisation of Anna Hayes aka Ashayana Deane on the Old Project Avalon Forum and at the time the Thuban data stream began to assume some logistical form of presentation. I have commented on the nous and information sources of the Keylontians on that forum and elsewhere.
In particular, Thuban addressed an 'open disagreement' between the validity of the Azurites as compared to the Melchizedekians, followed by a Camelotian 'war' between the Azurites and the Wingmakers. In this address, reference to the Keylontians appropriation of the Urantian 15-dimensional cosmology (which is untenable in the Thuban omni-science) in their, in the Thuban view grossly erroneous, attempt to redefine the kabbalistic gematria say in the Tree of the Eternity aka the 'Tree of Life'; was made and illustrated.
I am therefore less than impressed with their cosmological understandings and 'name giving', as it is more a revisitation of older metaphysical concepts and ideas, than a pioneering pathmaking into the reconfiguration of the old worlds of beingness and becomingness into their renewed forms of expression.
I must 'come across' as a supercritical adversary and that I must be to discern the 'healthy' from the 'sick' in these precarious times of the cosmic metamorphosis.
Halfbaked schemas and ideas had their times of evolvement Jorgelito, but those times are now approaching graduation time when the 'degrees' are either passed on or kept in store for another time following the necessary educational processes.
Having said this, you know that I do harmonise with certain information sources not directly associated or affiliated with the Thuban label. It then becomes a question of substance and nous, rather than an issue of 'flashy presentations'.
Any data source in alignment with the deeper 'raison d' etre' will by nature and necessity be 'Thubanese or dragonized' to the synchronicity with the World Logos as the primordial 'Semantics of Creation'.
So I have no reason whatsoever to delete your sharing of your keylontian ideas, which are part and parcel of the cosmic box of the logistical deliverances.

^{1 Corinthians 13:9-11 King James Version (KJV)}
^{⁹For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.}
^{¹⁰But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.}
^{¹¹When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.}

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Jorgelito - Posted May 16th 2013

Something Being Delivered

Emeth, It feels like an "energy packet" has been delivered and then exploded inside me! You probably have a name for such things.
They are not unfamiliar -- same M.O. -- I feel like laughing just because it feels good! Even to the point of silliness. Once someone told me there were 362 levels to Source, I laughed all day. The info (correct or incorrect) was the external form of the energy being delivered.
If it it's data of some sort that's being activated or delivered, it must be of a living variety; it reverberates all around inside me. Your visit was one such encounter.
I put schemas of cosmology and human origins in a tentative space to settle. It was fun talking with you going down the road with the top down! Anytime the Supercritical Adversary wants to come visit, it's OK with me . . .

Re ET

Comparing Human & ET is like comparing buttercups and dragonflies. We are not only of the same stock, but we are that stock. I know this because when I look at myself without thinking too much, I feel only Presence -- not even IAM Presence -- nothing outside me -- not older not younger. This is what I know. However, there may be 5.8 light-seconds high, two fingered creature somewhere that sees things quite differently . . .

This was cool . . .

Re Schemas of evolution

Here are some "levels" that come to mind . . .

1 Numb -- I can't feel -- no feeling -- worse than death
2 I am sad -- I am happy -- and this is all I know -- I am helpless
3 Job - passion -- woman -- friend - with I am everything -- without I am nothing
4 Help me God -- Help!! -- I hope and pray You will make things right
5 You are with me -- You are my hope -- and You are my light
6 We are one and the same
7 Make this be and let it happen
8 It shall be

In this schema the sequence of numbers mean nothing because this schema is non-linear, non-sequential and independent of cause and effect originating from a place where things happen instantaneously (to us it would appear outside of time). In other words, we jump around a lot.
We don't go from from one level to another, building on what was learned before. And we really don't care. This sounds very unscientific, but we have to remember evolution is just a way to experience life. Therefore it doesn't make sense to call someone more evolved or less.

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The view of evolution presented here is not main stream. This view is based on the premise that we are at this moment infinite and perfect in every way

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JesterTerrestrial - Posted May 16th 2013

Hey everybody how goes...well ya i can feel the phiyer coming in like the holy ghost just snuck behind ya and said BOO YA!!!

There are several interesting looking 'stars' in the skies flickering all kinds of colours but not enough star cruisers flying around yet i am hopeful that after july there will be some MASSIVE CONTACT!!! Will we finally get 4d light ships to fly around in?! Well that sure would be amazing and I know that UFOS are an inside job.

So i made a post on the mists of avalon and ya it was a bit wild but it was also deleted. Hmmmm Dont like my fast cash club i guess. OMG! THEY WANNA LEACH THE SACRED PHIYER OF AVALON and sell it for money behind my back!

Well then whatever MERLIN CAN STILL PERFORM MAGIC FROM EXILE!!!

I KNOW MY THOUGHTS ARE ELECTRIC AND MY EMOTIONS ARE MAGNETIC AND I GOT SOME DAMN POWERFUL CRYSTALS!!! LOOK THE HELL OUT!!!
I still say we should have a thuban confrece soon. Get the crew together for a recap of the cosmic metamorphosis and try and explain the cluster truck of information that has surfaced in the last few years as well as the new information that will likely rise and be required for the future events of the NEW GOLDEN AGE!!!

Well got a vinyl cutter business going at the new market that has started around me like magic! I will tell you more about that in a future update and there is lots to do as we push forward through the nightmare of an economy into the thuban star human dream.

I suspect we are being monitored as someone wants my friends alien free energy technology and they want to steal my keys to the gates of avalon! OMG THERE IS GOING TO BE HELL TO PAY!!! I still cant get on skype for weeks now so can not participate in the conversations as if someone wants to CRUCIFY ME!!! BUT I HAVE ALREADY RISEN!!! I am hoping to make a buck or two selling some vinyl signs and decals so i can maybe pay some money to see my kids as its been over 3 years now i have had to push on with out them in my life getting manipulated by outside forces...as some of you know I even got taken to maximum security jail a while back for being to much of a rebel lol YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!!! THAT I PROMISE YOU!!!

Well just thought id let you know that the magic lives write here write now. In the heart of the REAL AVALON AND CAMELOT!!!

THE INTER DIMENSIONAL FEDERATION OF FREE WORLDS!!!
EXTRA TERRESTRIAL DISCLOSURE EXPOSURE CONTACT!!!

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