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Re: The Legacy of Thuban Omni-Science De Alpha Draconis Omega

shiloh on Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:38 am

THEeXchanger wrote:

This was posted before
http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=336142E7-BF61-486B-8338-19FD6A632328&fid=F3D0C39E-7270-4160-80DE-61A397C1A988

The Calendar of Calakmul, Campeche, Mexico
- Pyramid 390 ft square ~ 390 x 24,000 = 9,360,000 = 360 x 26000

This is also another calendar:

That fits into the work of:

Susan Lynne Schwenger & Tony Bermanseder

where:

9,360,000 divided by 360 = 26,000

9,360,360 divided by 360 = 26,001

also 9,360,000 divided by 390 = 24,000 - plato's great year

and, 9,360,360 divided by 390 = 24,000.923

~ Susan Lynne Schwenger

Structure II at the ancient Mayan city of Calakmul (Campeche, Mexico)
is a massive north-facing pyramid temple, one of the largest in the Maya world.

Its base measures 120 meters (390 ft) square and it stands over 45 metres (148 ft) high.

The city is situated on a promontory formed by a natural 35-metre (115 ft) high limestone dome

rising above the surrounding lowlands.

This dome was artificially leveled by the Maya.

The stone used in construction at the site is a soft limestone. 4has resulted in severe erosion of the site's sculpture.

[info. orig. posted Aug 20th 2012]

http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=336142E7-BF61-486B-8338-19FD6A632328&fid=F3D0C39E-7270-4160-80DE-61A397C1A988

The Children of Babylon

We have arrived at a crucial point in our evolutionary process as a species upon Mother Earth. From all indications-the observances of Science, to the Prophets of old, from all culture, all religions, all the Earth's children-there is no longer time for carelessly falling through life like a leaf at the mercy of the Wind.

We have reached a point in the time-space experience where we must as Hu-man beings make a conscious choice whether or not to become the Masters of our Destines. Shakespeare said it so well, "To be or not to be, that is the question!" This can only be accomplished by assuming full responsibility for being Co-creators of Reality here upon Mother Earth.

So what do you have to say? As you look at the world around you is it not quite apparent that humanity is out of control? Native American prophecy tells us that we are now experiencing the End Times...

Those who come from the teachings of The Mayan Mystery School tell us of a time of awakening that will follow our passage through the End Times. This may very well be The Most Magical Journey of your life, a time where you choose to change your life forever.

Along the journey, if you remain open and in contact with yourself, you will discover the keys to unlocking the many mysteries that have kept your soul from reaching its full potential through lifetime after lifetime of self-imposed denial. If you are willing to take the step across the abyss of time and space, and move beyond where your fears have held you prisoner for centuries, you will become Initiates learning within the Alchemical Garden the grandest mystery of all mysteries--the mystery of who you are.

It is time to chose if you are wanting in any way to continue here in this plane of shifting realities, the pathway of compassion.

As a race we are experiencing transition on multiple levels at an ever increasing volume and rate of speed. We are experiencing change from the innermost structure of the atoms that comprise our molecular structure, to the very frequency upon which our consciousness expresses. We are mysteriously coming into harmony with something that IS not yet, but will be. It is a cycle of birthing. The chicken is coming out of the egg.

We are experiencing dimensional shifting as our entirety of perceived reality. We, as a species are moving through the metamorphosis of consciousness. From here we get to take the next step in our evolutionary process. We are standing witness to the Dance of Shiva, the Dance of Life and Death-Lovers embraced in each others arms! Yet, we perpetuate the patterns of the Spell of Mortality-the greatest illusion of all!

WELCOME TO THE AWAKENING

The pathway through the Awakening is only achieved by passing through The Eye of the Shaman. This is a journey that requires much preparation, and if you are experiencing change on multiple levels then know that you are part of the living dream of humanity seeking to discover its Divine self amongst the Murk and Mire of the Market Place.

We are moving through confusion and at times it is pure chaos. Many of us are experiencing cleansing of the body physical as well as the mental, and spiritual. It is very important right now to maintain a strong connection to heart. As the Hopi elders have said so simply, "Open your hearts and let your song be sung." The heart frequency is the only frequency that you can rely upon to remain constant and in fact grow stronger as we move ahead through this time of Apocalyptic Transition...

So many of you are spending your already limited energies in resisting the changes that are coming forth. You are walking with your heads on backwards, holding on to the past. You are holding onto the thoughts of what you thought it should be like, what you should have been like... what it would have been like to be perfect in someone else's eyes, in someone else's dream. You could be spending that energy in moving with the flow of the river. What we are experiencing in this part of the purification is the cleansing of self from all illusions. The pain is in the holding on... holding on to the image of yourself that no longer applies to your newly found path. If you are experiencing resistance in every direction then perhaps your time of learning is no longer fulfilled in that experience.

Try to understand that there is nothing in the way any more that is holding you back from achieving the fulfillment of your dreams but yourself and your insistence on holding on to your past images of how it is supposed to be. Yes, there is much tearing apart and chaos that surrounds you, but know that the process of separating the wheat from the chaff is a very emotional experience. The intensity is determined solely by your own passion. And where you have refused to come to terms with your passion, you will then be motivated by the emotional qualities of your fears.

If you have practiced the disciplines of how to get in touch with yourself and connect to Source and made them a part of your reality, and by your daily actions you are living your own personal truth in harmony with the Divine plan, then you will be separated from the web of social consciousness. Yet you might ask why then is the world so out of balance? Why is it so difficult to manifest my chosen reality? Look a little deeper.

There is still a web. Ask yourself to how much of that web are you still connected? Most around you have not let go of that safety net of social consciousness yet. They cling on to the image of what they are supposed to be, how it is supposed to be. They are like the fly caught in the spider's web. With each effort to struggle to free themselves, they only call the spider closer to them, and become more entangled in the web itself.

Those caught in this web of social consciousness cannot see the world for themselves. They have no thought that is genuinely their own. They live everyone else's vision of reality and not their own. There are those who move back and forth from one position to the next like yo-yo's, trapped in their own self-doubt. Paralyzed and not able to make a decision about where they truly stand, they take the position that is the most convenient in the moment...anything that will not disturb comfort zones.

Then there are those who just resist because they like resisting. If you break off the web of social consciousness, well you are then alone with no support structure, no one and nothing to back you up. Correct? Wrong. There is another web, the one that the Mother spins. Some call it the Web of Wyrd, some Spider Woman's Dream web; some call it the higher web of holographic reality. It all depends from where your teaching has come. One has to struggle a little to learn how to maintain this connection. It is a self-learning process. It is an attuning process. It takes empathic abilities that normally are not utilized by people content with ordinary existence. So most fall back into old patterns so they can feel familiar energies, familiar patterns. They like living in a limited reality, there is safety in numbers. And most are stuck in old played-out comfort zones that no longer work.

Comfort zones were created by a person's image and not themselves. Can you imagine spending your life hopelessly caught in the prison of someone else's thought forms. Is it not a reality in which so many seem to be caught up, playing out a perpetual nightmare, repeating the same patterns over and over until they become numb to the fact that they are even playing the drama out? They are in a trance where they never free themselves from the spider's web. They are always being pulled this way and that caught in behavior patterns they cannot unlock. Their self-doubt has glued them to the web like contact cement. They struggle and struggle spending all that energy going nowhere.

This part of the purification is a time for experiencing a full-life review. This is the fire... the fire of emotional confusion. Here we learn to master our emotions and walk the path of the Master. We are seeing our thought patterns being reflected back to us from every part of the globe. On every level of life, and within every aspect of our personal experience, we are being given the opportunity to change our patterns. We are finding there is no escape from life experiences; the only choice is to face them and walk through the illusion one step at a time. This allows us to review the process of our patterns through experience and change our destiny. The outcome of our life experiences can be altered forever if we have the courage not to charge the situations, and allow the higher aspect of ourselves to take charge.

We learn the pattern to the dance we play, by watching and making the appropriate changes.

If we get it right we never have to walk through that dark night of the soul again. We will be free forever from repetition of the merry-go-round syndrome, where we are without power to effect change in our lives and adapt to every-shifting situations. The process is totally self-generated. So it is very important to come to terms with the inner being you truly are. This is not a time of compromise and surrender to thoughts and actions which do not create harmony within us. We are feeling our separation between each other, for it is not in harmony with the Mother's dream. It is very unnatural for us in all truth to exist in a world of paranoia, and fear. It is all part of the illusion, and is the result of the manipulation of our truths for eons of experience upon this plane.

We have been, as a people, so long separated from our dreams, and our spirit that we are now facing the Winds of Change with little or no foundation for understanding the experience of the impact of the events occurring around us. We are feeling the emotional storms of a humanity that has for so long focused upon the physical that what is going on at this time is without even a common understanding. We are blind and paralyzed by what humanity itself has manifested through tyranny and a philosophy of rule by proliferating fear and employing tyranny to support a system of synthetic social consciousness. We are watching as the consciousness around us implodes upon us.

We are watching as the Children of Babylon tear down their own creations and build defenses to protect themselves against the phantoms of their inner-most fears... fears which were born of their own actions. These actions are made in ignorance for the knowledge of who they were and what they were was kept from them. There is no clearer way of saying it other than we are experiencing

The Last Waltz of the Tyrants.

There is no avoiding the shifting and storms of the inner being. It is truly the pathway of the purification and no stone shall remain unturned. We are experiencing the rising to the surface of all that has remained hidden. All of our dark thoughts, all of our fears, all of our untruths are surfacing for they have become blocks to our moving into the new reality.

All the warnings were given. Year after year I walked with elders from how many Nations pleading, asking, healing, performing ceremony. Please help the Native people. Realize the importance of the Sacred Sites. Although your memory may be closed to these things now, they will be important in your understanding of what is to come. Hear what our ancestors, your ancestors have left as a warning to us about these times that are coming.

Now, we look helplessly hoping for an answer... for something to occur that will change the course of society as the world around us collapses into utter chaos. Rage and violence have become the order of the day. You read your newspapers and stock reports. You see life through magazines and motion pictures. You are becoming a race that sees no consequence in its actions and employs no morality or sense of reverence in its actions taken. The Earth and her people are less than expendable commodities for the sake of the success of the corporate beast. The Black Serpent has reared its head as the Peacemaker forewarned, and as it was told, is devouring the whole of the Earth.

And now even though you are in danger... now that you feel your Mother turning within... you see the crops dying, and the forest turning yellow and the game disappearing. Your seas can barely support life, and the air burns your lungs, and causes such diabolical diseases that your flesh devours itself, you walk as though you were immortal Gods that can meet no ending in any reality. You dance the dances of tyranny as the fruit of the vine withers and the flora falls upon the Earth dried and withered from man made meteorological disasters.

You manipulate the weather, the Earth and Her Atmosphere as though it was a chemistry set you purchased from Toys-R-Us. You justify your actions in courts of law that have long since seen days of justice, honor and compliance with Divine Laws. You set your laws immutable before the hosts of God. No individual dare speak of freedom and personal liberties before the Great God of Social Distortion, the hallucinatory manifestation of the sickness of the Human soul. Yes, it is The Last Waltz of the Tyrants. It is the darkest hour that Humanity has known for a long time, longer than memory can provide.

Crush the dreams of children. Continue to mistreat your women, and tear out their hearts with fingers as cold as the steel. The hearts that dwell within these lifeless bodies once housed the Lords of Light. People these are your last days. You are fast becoming carnivores of your own kind, rather than givers of life. You practice judgment as if it were your sacred religion. And you judge as clowns, not knowing the whole of the story, not caring to see the facts, and not looking into the situation for yourselves. Rather you follow the mooing of the herd and the bell of self-gratification by your addictions that are numbing your brains, your senses, and killing your bodies faster than the darkest of plagues.

Your lack of compassion for each other as Brother and Sisters of Light, and the turning away of even your children, has released a darkness that had long been contained. Oh children of Babylon you have unleashed demons that are not even of this Earth that prey upon you with no hope of slowing. Yes, the Plagues of the Apocalypse are upon us now, and there are no cures. They rain upon you from your clouds; the birds fall from the skies and still you do not heed. The fishes boil up from the waters and still you do not heed. The animals suffer from growths of distortion and hideous mutations that grow upon their multiple limbs. These things even as the prophets of old forewarned now appear in your own kind, yet still you think there is escape from the calamity of your ways.

Build a new city, paint over the old walls. Put a new store front upon the old and rotten core-the face-lift society. It is cosmetic surgery to hide the rotting core. And yet even your children cannot afford to live in the synthesized world you are creating. It is a heartless world that creates not the living soul of the poet, but only the dying screams of its own youth shooting themselves in schoolroom hallways and taking their own lives rather than move into a future without dreams, without hope, without compassion. Humanity has become its own worst nightmare as it contracts in waves of self-inflicted pain, suffering in the agony of the realization of its own death. Hoping even that war...perhaps war and total annihilation of the life force can stop the madness that has overcome itself.

How can we escape from ourselves? How can we refuse to see our own reflections? How can we not hear our own voice? We are entering the Sixth and Seventh Thunders now, and there will be no turning back the clock. Creation will no longer excuse the cries of ignorance. Innocence once gave us instant passage through the blackness of our dying dreams to the morning in the land where dreams still greet the coming of daylight as if it were the first daylight ever experienced. Did you think the prophecies were for someone else? Did you think the prophecies were only a story about some land in a far away place? Sorry! It would seem that you feel victim to your own shortcomings.

Are there any signs of hope you would ask me as we stand at the gateway of World War Three...as the smell of burning flesh rises into the sky and blows across the Earth landing on farms, children, and butterfly wings? YES!...is the answer from the woods. For even now the Mother of all that is expressed upon this plane would not turn from her children.

As a species we have arrived at a pivotal point in our evolution. We are about to embark on a new adventure. We are about to turn the page of history concerning this earthly experience. We are entering a galactic reawakening. We are subject for entry into the federation of planetary beings. There are others who have elected to take from you your freedom of choice in how the final episode of Spaceship Earth will play itself out. For there have always been those who live in defiance of Creator's plan. It is the friction of the Human Drama. Without the friction there is no fire, and life becomes flat and passionless.

Each of us has to grasp the fact that the negative illusion which has been planted in us of "how can one person effect the outcome?", is a lie. We have to completely turn our attitude around 180 degrees. There must be constructed within our being an entirely new architecture. The Temple must be rebuilt. For within is where we shall find the New Jerusalem, not without. We must design a new Sacred Architecture that promotes and sustains a complete attitude change, and that change must come quickly.

In order for change to occur quickly and for humanity to manifest a winning attitude we begin with accepting that we have all had a part to play in the creation of the darkness. The negativity that exists within our society and is viewed throughout our world is not just a manipulated engineered chance happening directed by some vague and mysterious force. "They are doing this to me, the victim cries..."

No, the pathway of truth is also the pathway of sovereignty, which is born from taking responsibility for the here and now. When we walk the Pathway of Truth what was once unseen becomes very clear and present. We, ourselves, perhaps long ago, planted the seed of today's ills. The Native Americans tell us we must take the responsibility for the next seven generations. We will inherit the consequence of our deeds through these future generations as we return around the wheel of life. Again as some of the elders see it, we are now harvesting what we did in the past both emotional and through physical actions as we laid the groundwork for today seven generations ago.

We have developed many new ways of self-development over the past twenty-five years or so. There may be means out there by which we can learn to expedite karmic recoil, and life itself has quickened its pace indeed. We may well have even passed into a period of time experience where we are free from karmic debt from past life experience. However, there is no way one can avoid karmic consequences entirely. The only passage through karmic consequence where there is even hope of relief from the weight of created karma, and the pain and suffering that reckless creation manifests is through accepting the responsibility for our actions and making the commitment to change, to forgive, and to surrender judgment, hate and denial and to live with compassion for all that is.

"Thought creates the nature of all reality" is a grand universal truth. We now know that all reality responds to the vibration of thought. The vibration of thought can resonate to either the higher end of the spectrum or the lower end of the spectrum. The spectrum being what the body-mind physical is capable of manifesting as a living environment. This means we can keep following the downward spiral of humanity into the depths of the effects of our lower vibratory existence, OR we can make the conscious commitment to take the upward spiral towards the Divine human experience. This means making an effort to build courage, endurance, steadfastness and the development of Will. This Will manifests from our learning to have our own thoughts about life, the part self plays in its drama, and our interaction amongst other human beings in our dance.

This is no longer a time for shrugging our responsibility to life and taking the leisure path. We are, like it or not, responsible to the account of man. This account has been built over hundreds of lifetimes of dancing round the wheel. There are those who would mock the Creator's plan to complete this final episode of our planetary experience here. Their manipulations and tampering with the human experience through technology cannot prevail in the final outcome. Yes, they exist...then so do mosquitoes. Yes, our reality has been tampered with, so have we tampered with the reality of the entire universe. There is much that remains to be revealed in the near future.

There are even ongoing attempts by some who would desire to predetermine the nature of our shift into the new paradigm. Manipulation of the weather, frequency bombardment to the general populous, experimental chemical and fungicidal spraying of whole regions are all desperate actions by those who would choose to be the rulers and controllers of this new paradigm we are entering. The outcome of these Final Days is being steered and our consciousness being manipulated to meet some preordained destiny with the Apocalypse. What if the truth behind the fairy tale were different than has been represented? What if the outcome was not immutable? What if the potential for the outcome was as unlimited as Creation itself? What if there were things that the lesser gods have overlooked?

None of us has been abandoned or left behind to experience a world of suffering and conflict, seeing our dreams torn apart in the agony of destruction. We have merely been called to the pathway of truth. We learn the fundamentals of what truth is through the experience of the Human Drama and through the initiation of the Emotional Storms predicted by our own inner conflict and inability to move beyond our own fears. We are being tested in grand manner and forged like steel. No one manipulates our true self; it is only the outer robe of the character we play that refuses to give way to the new Self, the God Self, that can be manipulated.

Humanity must learn collectively to make a holo-leap. We must forge ahead into another paradigm almost instantaneously. To accomplish this superhuman feat, we must now reach deep into the core essence of what we are touch that which is the essence of the Human Spirit itself.

In The Light....Robert Ghost Wolf

[3:40:51 AM-Monday, September 1st, 2014 +10UCT] Sirius 17: i was practicing a bit last night and did a meditation with the GOT and Genesis
[3:41:21 AM] Sirius 17: that is what this doc is, the other is the convo i had with rax last night
[3:41:27 AM] Sirius 17: i hope all is well with you
[4:20:20 AM] Sirius 17: oh wow, i just noticed that the angle the belt stars of Orion are at 54 degrees and the angle of the pyramids is 45 degrees LOL
[4:20:35 AM] Sirius 17: watching this hancock video
[4:21:13 AM] Sirius 17: now i bet no one knows this but us what this means
[4:22:08 AM] Sirius 17:

start watching at 22 mins and you will see it, if you didn't know this already
[9:45:02 AM] Sirius 17:

[9:45:34 AM] Sirius 17: Brook shared this video of some ufo sightings over north carolina
[9:45:49 AM] Sirius 17: it was seen by many people
[9:46:01 AM] Sirius 17: orange red balls of light
[12:31:49 PM] Sirius 17: Lords of the day

There were 13 Lords of the Day. These were gods (and goddesses) who each represented one of the 13 days in the trecenas of the 260-day calendar. The same god always represented the same day. Quetzalcohuatl (The feathered serpent), for example, always accompanied the 9th day.

Lords of the night

There are only nine Lords of the Night, which means that they cannot always represent the same day, but the list of gods repeats itself again and again so each lord accompanies a new number each trecena. Some think that there are nine Lords of the night because they are connected to the nine levels of the underworld.[14]

[12:31:53 PM] Sirius 17: this is interesting
[12:32:04 PM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_calendars
[12:33:00 PM] Sirius 17: [Thursday, 28 August 2014 4 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

<<< 9x40=360 defining the Lilith cycles
9 months lunar for 12 months solar
It takes 40 days for the dark Moon to go through a sign but only 30 for the Sun

i was wondering if it has anything to do with this

[1:43:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There are 9 'Lords of the Night' with Quetzacoatl always the 9th, because It defines the cosmic ennead, which manifests as the mathematical characteristic of the root reducibility of the encompassing decad. Any integer naumber can be reduced to its root, say 123501=6+5+1=12=1+2=3 and adding any multiple of 9 to such will preserve the 'root' - here 3.
[1:45:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This then relates to the 5 hells and 12 heavens in the apocryphon; all those 'ancient texts' representing part of a groupmind remembrance inherited cosmogenetically by the 'Cro Magnon' Homo Sapiens sapiens genotype defined in this latest precessional cycle,Hancock and co have revitalised.
[1:47:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As there are 10 'fundamental principles' BRIDGING the metaphysics (inclusive all mathematical abstractions) with the physical realism experienced by morphogenetic incarnates; those 10 'time lords' then are partitioned in a way, which fine structures the decad into the ennead in various ways.
[1:49:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Halving the decad will give you the 5 hells as 5 principalities aka archons aka seraphimic (cherubimic-archangelic) 'kingdoms' in an apparently opposing duality, say light versdus darkness or gnosis versus ignorance/sinfulness or sexual separation etc etc.
[1:51:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But then there is a halving of the half to crystallize 7 fundamental 'heavens' with an 8th heaven becomi ng like an apex for a cosmic mirroring of the heaven-hell as earth dichotomy. It is this ancient fact of the semiotiks, which is the root decoding pattern behind some mysterious passages in the source book codes, such as the 'heads of the beast in revelation'.
[1:53:09 PM] Sirius 17: oh very interesting
[1:53:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

Revelation 17:8-18 - King James Version (KJV)

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

[1:53:26 PM] Sirius 17: i thought it had to do with the moon and solar cycles
[1:54:22 PM] Sirius 17: so it has to do with first principles rather
[1:55:08 PM] Sirius 17: and the ennead
[1:55:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As you can see here; is that the 5 'fallen kings' represent the 5 hells and the 8th head represents the apex point, where the 7 heavens mirror 7 hells, with 2 of those 7 hells being like quasi hells, having antiprinciple states of definition, but being in a way required to harmonise their opposites
[1:55:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[1:56:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes I am reposting the science behind the apocryphon in this context on Legacy
[1:57:50 PM] Sirius 17: oh that will be nice

The Principalities defined were:

1. Identity - AntiIdentity = 1st Heaven ||1st Hell as archon 8-7=1
2. Expansion - Contraction = 2nd Heaven||2nd Hell as archon 8-6=2
3. Order - Disorder or Chaos = 3rd Heaven||3nd Hell as archon 8-5=3
4. Symmetry - AntiSymmetry or Distortion = 4th Heaven||4th Hell as archon 8-4=4
5. Infinity or Divergence - Limit or Convergence = 5th Heaven||5th Hell as archon 8-3=5
6. Inversion or Reciprocity - Constancy or Invariance = 6th Heaven||6th Quasi-Hell as archon 8-2=6
7. Reflection - Absorption = 7th Heaven||of the Sabbath-Mirror||7th Quasi-Hell as archon 8-1=7
8. Relativity - No Anti-Principle = 8th Heaven|| as the apex of the Relativity of the Duality in Quantization/Holofractalization
9. Quantization - No Anti-Principle = 9th Heaven||as the Relativity of the Duality in the New recongured Cosmic Identity (duality in one)
10. New Identity in using 1-9 in Rootreduction 10=1+0; 11=1+1=2; 12=1+2=3; and so on in root-identity N+9=N*. = 10th Heaven

Calibrated 'measurement units', then allow a 10-tiered or 10-principalled geometric reduction in the History of the Cosmos, converging in 10 steps as defined in the 7 Principalities mirrored in Antiprincipalities; the 8th of the Relativity without Antiprinciple and the 9th of the Holofractalisation or the Quantisation as the 9 Timelords of the Maya or the ninefolded deities or Ennead of Ancient Egypt.

The 10th Principality then becomes a New Identity using the '9 Timelords' to 'Redefine' the Old Identity of the 1st Principality mirrored in duality in an Antiidentity.

The 13 'Timelords of the Day' then describe the 13 dimensionalities as the recircularisation of (1)-2-3-(4)-5-6-(7)-8-9-(10)-11-12-(13=1) of the 4x3=3x4 'elemental qualities of astrology' with the absorption of the connector time dimensions (4)-(7)-(10), rendering the 13 dimensions as the cosmic ennead of 9 dimensional SPACE again. hence the definitipon of Quetzacoatl as the 9th Timelord, connecting the 'Lords of the Night' with the 'Lords of the Day'. The 'timed qualities' of (1-2-3-4)D Line Space with (4-5-6-7)D Rotation/Twistor Space with (7-8-9-10)D Quantum Space so recircularise as the 'Cosmic Ouroboros' in (10-11-12-13=1)D Omni Space.

[1:58:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The 10 horns are the archons mirrored in the kingdoms of the 'Cosmic Christ', say and as defined in a number of 'qualities' or scientific base principles required to manifest a physical universe and cosmology from its abstract originator or progenitor
[2:01:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The literal bible bashers and nabsers are not incorrect in associating the horns and heads with historical kings and kingdoms like Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome and the Caesars and Alexander and the pharaohs of course, but their historical-literal interpretations are not deep enough to reconfigure their original source codes in a co-re-authorship
[2:01:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes the layers of meaning are several, i do see that
[2:02:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There are exactly 7 basic natural scientific units to create a physical cosmology; length, mass, time, electric current, luminosity, molarity and temperature
[2:03:45 PM] Sirius 17: so this has to do more with one of my favorite posts The Primal Energy, where it talks about how the creator discovered it's own identity and then formed and created the universe from those principle discoveries about itself right?
[2:03:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: From those the physical universe can be created in constructing other units in agglomerations and accumulations
[2:04:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Then one adds supplementary units like the measurement of pi in say spherical area of the ster radian as an eighth unit of the cosmic geometry
[2:06:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The natural transcendental number 'e' for the natural exponent/logarithm is also associated with that by the Euler roots crystallizing the Fibonacci series and connecting 'e' with 'pi' in the Euler Equation: e^ip =cos(p) + i.sin(p) = -1 = X+Y = XY with X and Y being the Fibonacci Roots as the 'Golden Mean' and 'Phi'.

[2:07:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is those 'fundamentals', which are then 'found' in the construction of the pyramids and not the other way around.
[2:07:38 PM] Sirius 17: so the builders knew 'subconsciously' these connections?
[2:07:58 PM] Sirius 17: or they were fully aware at the time?
[2:12:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Fully aware as the ETs who were themselves 'born' or cosmically birthed in a mirrored co-evolution both within and without the 'Cocoon of Gaia' 2,200 million years ago.
[2:12:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is why Gaia is the home for ALL Ets
[2:13:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: All biological evolution upon Earth is mirrored as the physicalisation or morphogenetic incarnation of the extraterrestrial sentience within the bio environs of Earth
[2:14:01 PM] Sirius 17: so is Graham's date of 10,500 BC correct? i guess that is 13,000 years ago in the maya system right?
[2:14:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes it is correct as a retracing of the precessional star patterns
[2:15:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The exact date of the half cycle midpoint is however 10,800 years before 2012
[2:15:30 PM] Sirius 17: interesting, yes i always wondered if some of these structures were far older than the archeologists were attesting to, but then they only date the carbon from say wood and organic matter. impossible to date the stone really.
[2:15:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is the time of the last iceage however and something the scientist are now ready to acknowledge
[2:15:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes it totally changes the history
[2:17:28 PM] Sirius 17: i am still watching this final Hancock video and catching up with things
[2:17:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: good
[2:18:07 PM] Sirius 17: i am understanding the precession much better now
[2:18:28 PM] Sirius 17: he explains things so well, i like his easy manner
[2:19:29 PM] Sirius 17: so we have completed a full cycle of precession and we are in Aquarius again from 26,000 years ago. The age of Leo was at the half cycle right?
[2:19:56 PM] Sirius 17: which was this 10,800 years ago mark and coming out of the last ice age
[2:20:55 PM] Sirius 17: really cool about Catal Huyuk being developed during the age of Cancer

http://xenoc.tumblr.com/post/13682434192/respect-for-elders-of-thuban-truth-seekers

A website I recently stumbled upon, Elders of Thuban, the content of which appears to be of great interest, if not value, puts into particularly good terms how information sharing should be approached in a society of truth seekers:

Bravo, Elders, you are some of the few that actually demonstrate wisdom deserving of the title “Elders.” Radiance be.

Click to visit: Elders of Thuban Website

The content of this site is however not directed to only interest the professional scientist, researcher or enthusiast in cosmology; but is attempted to embrace any reader of some philosophical orientation. This should become evident in a perusal of those parts on this site, which are not suffused by multitudinous formulas and symbolisms (see survey on the Cosmic Identity).

The information and data on this site is FREEWARE and intended to benefit both the individuals who find utility for it and the human grouptype in general. It is a cosmic legacy of sorts, provided as SHAREWARE by a perennial omni-science or gnosis, say a ‘wisdom of the ancients’ and so not subject to ‘ownership’ or patentability of any kind.

There is nothing to sell on this site and all the information can be freely copied and distributed in any form or manner without acknowledgement of the author.

(Perhaps whoever uses this data base is a coauthor by default anyway and therefore cannot infringe copyright? The concerning and insightful reader might come to this conclusion!).

As there is such a great amount of misinformation, both scientific or philosophical or otherwise on the internet; this site will necessarily appear to be semantically specialised and mathematical on a first perception.

And indeed, the serious investigator will indeed encounter a logical and selfconsistent derivation of formulations and correspondences. Many such professionals or well-informed theoreticians and experimenters would quickly find their own scientific and ontological endeavours somewhat reflected in degrees in the content and topics addressed.

So what distinguishes this site from the multitudes of similars, is its basically complete embracement of the standard models in both contemporary cosmology and in particle physics.

All formulations accept the foundations of contemporary physics in their historical development, but seek to extend this basis as a continuing paradigm and agenda of modern physics through its methodology of experiment and logical discourse.

A dramatic extension of those standard models will however become apparent to the discerning reader.

But it is more than the fundamental problems in elementary physics and cosmology, which should find elucidation in the content of this site.

The basic questions of existence shall also be addressed and the answers necessarily must encompass the sciences in their ontology as well as the general puzzles as to the nature and purpose of life and being, hitherto confined to the spheres of religions and spirituality and subsequently often eschewed by the echelons of scientific discipline and rigour.

The discerning reader will perhaps find out for himherself, what this ‘spirituality’ must be, if it is ‘real’ or ‘truth’. And if so, then this will perhaps allow the reader to come to a certain understanding as to how the foundation of science is omniscience - incorporating all those concepts of spirituality and its derivatives and labeled as such throughout the history of humankind.

[5:34:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE9A3F2495E8

John 1:1-5 - King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

{In the beginning was the Logos, as the awakening sentience and thoughtfulness of all existence, and this intelligence or logistical thought was with the Energy of the Chaos of all beingness; and this primordial Intelligence became the ordering of the Chaotic Energy; creating from its definitions the space and the time and the transformed energy to exist and manifest and play in self expression within.}

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

{The same primordial awakening of the cosmic self became the self processing and self realization of that Chaotic Energy then ordering and self becoming Itself.}

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

{All things thought of by the Energy in partnership with its Logos of Self definition processes; so became enabled to assume cosmic identities from the infinite energy reservoir of the Source Energy of All That Was and Is and Is to Become in transformations of those energy in their cosmic definitions.}

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

{In the Logos was the Life and its existence became the source for the Life of all that followed, including the template of the selfhood of the Logos - called man.}

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

{And the Light of the Logos shines in the darkness of the Ignorance of Man and Man comprehends it not.}

What is the prime directive in the Cosmos of the Twin Logos?

- Universal Creativity and Self Expression Shared with All for All in Self-Relative Peace and Harmony!

Abba&Baab={CJ+JC}=New YinYang & New YangYin as Two in One in Two - Seperable and yet always Together!

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6780p60-the-legacy-of-thuban-omni-science-de-alpha-draconis-omega#105898

[7:03:41 PM] Alienne Laval: In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with Psyche, and the Logos was Psyche
[7:04:32 PM] Alienne Laval: or: In the beginning was the Sign, and the Sign was with Locality, and the Sign was Locality
[7:06:38 PM] Alienne Laval: the only means to measure Logos is Psyche.
[7:07:18 PM] Alienne Laval: I am SHE that liveth!
[7:08:50 PM] Alienne Laval: the one with girdled paps.
[7:11:14 PM] Alienne Laval: Eli, Eli... oh oh
[7:12:09 PM] Alienne Laval: Ya Allah Elohim!

[9:45:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And SHE is BAAB {the GATE of the Heart of AB to the Soul-Psyche of the BA} with ABBA and no substitute fake labels emotionally 'charged' with human minded misrepresentations like Jehovah or Allah or such abominations in names and deeds pursuing and affiliating in human minded attachements to those names mistranslated from unworded or multilingual cosmic archetypes.
The ET mind blended with the human (and nonhuman terrestrial 'instinct' psyche and sophia) emotional acceleration potential leads to planetary- and genotypified ascension, not human pretentiousness and vanities; unable to harmonize its evolved electro-magnetic 'animal feeling nature' required for its morphogenetic {BodyMind} form with its - by cosmic naturalness and definition - intellectualization of magneto-electric perception of psychosomatic-mentality {MindBody} ET induction.

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THEeXchanger on Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:40 am

Post THEeXchanger on Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:40 pm

ice ages happen
once every 104,000 years (4 cycles x 26000 ancient years)
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SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Sep 2nd

http://thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=0265D780-C9C1-46C1-80A1-A15795198653&lastp=1
IMPORTANT EQUATIONS based on YEARS
Important Numbers in yearly cycles (given in years) or (fractions)
1, 9, 13, 22, 52, 468, 676, 1144,
9,360,000/360=26000, 9,360,360/360=26,001, 26000, 26001=26,000+1
13 heavens + 9 hells = 22 master number cycles X 52 years = 1144 years
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SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Sep 3rd

I found this on the internet too,,,

13-13-13 Activation: December 16, 2013

Posted on December 13, 2013 by melbrake

13th. Everything is coming up the number 13th, recently, I had a Tarot reading the card of Death, the number 13 revealed itself. Nothing to worry about, the Death card represents change. Today, is Friday the 13th, and the Powerball lottery game in America is 400 million, we would call that good luck even if we won13/100 of the overall take.
December 16, 2013 is being called the real end of the Mayan calendar due to a mishap in calculations according to Susan Lynne Serafina Schwenger
who made this discovery circa 2010. Susan said the planet will begin the 13th Grand Cycle on December 17, 2013 ( a new start).
Also, the Sun will be in the Ophiuchus Constellation through December 18, 2013. Ophiuchus is the 13th constellation of the zodiac.

In the Gospel of Saint John, Jesus uses on the whole 13 comparisons or titles to designate who he is really:

I am the Bread (Jn 6,35 and 6,48 and 6,51)

I am the Light (Jn 8,12 and 9,5)

I am the Gate (Jn 10,7 and 10,9)

I am the Good Shepherd (Jn 10,11 and 10,14)

I am the Resurrection (Jn 11,25)

I am the Way (Jn 14,6)

I am the Truth (Jn 14,6)

I am the Life (Jn 14,6)

I am the Vine (Jn 15,5)

I am the King (Jn 18,37 and 19,21)

I am Son of God (Jn 10,36)

I am in the Father (Jn 14,10 and 14,11 and 14,20 and 17,8)

I am (Jn 8,24 and 8,28 and 8,58 and 13,19)

To help with your DNA activation and learn more about it please refer to the following video on 13-13-13: http://melbrake.wordpress.com
http://melbrake.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/13-13-13-activation-december-16-2013/

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shiloh on Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:31 am

LANIAKEA=54=45=USE=LOVE=ZARAH=SUN=26.28=27.27=ALIE|N|AKA=ELI.ANAKA

Nature | Letter

The Laniakea supercluster of galaxies
R. Brent Tully; Hélène Courtois; Yehuda Hoffman; Daniel Pomarède

Journal name: Nature Volume: 513, Pages:71–73 Date published04 September 2014) DOI:doi:10.1038/nature13674 Received 07 April 2014 Accepted 07 July 2014
Published online 03 September 2014

Galaxies congregate in clusters and along filaments, and are missing from large regions referred to as voids. These structures are seen in maps derived from spectroscopic surveys^{1, 2} that reveal networks of structure that are interconnected with no clear boundaries. Extended regions with a high concentration of galaxies are called ‘superclusters’, although this term is not precise. There is, however, another way to analyse the structure. If the distance to each galaxy from Earth is directly measured, then the peculiar velocity can be derived from the subtraction of the mean cosmic expansion, the product of distance times the Hubble constant, from observed velocity. The peculiar velocity is the line-of-sight departure from the cosmic expansion and arises from gravitational perturbations; a map of peculiar velocities can be translated into a map of the distribution of matter³. Here we report a map of structure made using a catalogue of peculiar velocities. We find locations where peculiar velocity flows diverge, as water does at watershed divides, and we trace the surface of divergent points that surrounds us. Within the volume enclosed by this surface, the motions of galaxies are inward after removal of the mean cosmic expansion and long range flows. We define a supercluster to be the volume within such a surface, and so we are defining the extent of our home supercluster, which we call Laniakea.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v513/n7516/full/nature13674.html

Milky Way is on the outskirts of 'immeasurable heaven' supercluster

Astronomers discover that our galaxy is a suburb of a supercluster of 100,000 large galaxies they have called Laniakea

The Laniakea supercluster.
Image: SDvision/Guardian

In what amounts to a back-to-school gift for pupils with nerdier leanings, researchers have added a fresh line to the cosmic address of humanity. No longer will a standard home address followed by "the Earth, the solar system, the Milky Way, the universe" suffice for aficionados of the extended astronomical location system.
The extra line places the Milky Way in a vast network of neighbouring galaxies or "supercluster" that forms a spectacular web of stars and planets stretching across 520m light years of our local patch of universe. Named Laniakea, meaning "immeasurable heaven" in Hawaiian, the supercluster contains 100,000 large galaxies that together have the mass of 100 million billion suns.
Our home galaxy, the Milky Way, lies on the far outskirts of Laniakea near the border with another supercluster of galaxies named Perseus-Pisces. "When you look at it in three dimensions, is looks like a sphere that's been badly beaten up and we are over near the edge, being pulled towards the centre," said Brent Tully, an astronomer at the University of Hawaii in Honolulu.
Astronomers have long known that just as the solar system is part of the Milky Way, so the Milky Way belongs to a cosmic structure that is much larger still. But their attempts to define the larger structure had been thwarted because it was impossible to work out where one cluster of galaxies ended and another began.

Tully's team gathered measurements on the positions and movement of more than 8,000 galaxies and, after discounting the expansion of the universe, worked out which were being pulled towards us and which were being pulled away. This allowed the scientists to define superclusters of galaxies that all moved in the same direction (if you're reading this story on a mobile device, click here to watch a video explaining the research).
The work published in Nature gives astronomers their first look at the vast group of galaxies to which the Milky Way belongs. A narrow arch of galaxies connects Laniakea to the neighbouring Perseus-Pisces supercluster, while two other superclusters called Shapley and Coma lie on the far side of our own.
Tully said the research will help scientists understand why the Milky Way is hurtling through space at 600km a second towards the constellation of Centaurus. Part of the reason is the gravitational pull of other galaxies in our supercluster.
"But our whole supercluster is being pulled in the direction of this other supercluster, Shapley, though it remains to be seen if that's all that's going on," said Tully.

The Laniakea supercluster. Image: SDvision

Superclusters are the largest cosmic structures known to exist in the universe. Writing in an accompanying article, Elmo Tempel, an astronomer at the Tartu Observatory in Estonia, praised the name given to Earth's supercluster. "It is taken from the Hawaiian words lani, which means heaven, and akea, which means spacious or immeasurable. That is just the name one would expect for the whopping system that we live in."

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Raven on Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:50 am

Delighful reading, Abraxasinas. The Cat Woman in the Love Garden with those very sharp fingernails, the wreck of your pride and joy & should be dead, taking a look at the inside you by using the two eyeball technique, meanwhile there's human sacrifce and devil workship on this side with Rosie busy contending with the other. ENTERTAINING INDEED! Thanks for sharing. Well written! I was laughing so much, this came to mind . . .

It is nice indeed, that you could appreciate the humour in this account of Abraxasinas Jorgelito. I should state on account of the Cave of the Dragons however; that all of the described occurrences actually correspond to something colloquially termed 'real time' in real life situations.
Sometimes truth manifests itself in stranger ways than literary fiction despite the appearances.
Danke schön!
TonyB

Jorgelito - Posted 11 Hours Ago

(for the benefit of others of the cave)
Tony, there's no doubt in my mind the experiences you share are true. What's delightful is your account -- exploring new territories without a guidebook -- as if we were right there with you -- and still be able to go home at the end of the movie! It is your holding of two worlds that makes the telling of it a delectable mixture of what was true, much stranger than fiction, and outrageous fun. Well done.

Mark Twain's witfulness comes across with deep insights and as deeper than is usual for consumptiousness for the generalised human mind Jorgelito. However one might add, that his insight attempts to point to the fact, that once cosmic truth is made manifest, its possibility is no longer in question, but factual expression of itself.

[3:10:56 AM - Monday, September 8th, 2014 +10UCT] Sirius 17: I had a dream last night about DD
[3:11:31 AM] Sirius 17: it was strange, first i was contacting her on some device that would tickle her toes when i touched the screen
[3:11:55 AM] Sirius 17: and at first i was not sure if it was affecting her but then i could see that it did
[3:12:30 AM] Sirius 17: then i was near some dried up river bed and looking at rocks and things stuck in the dried river bank and she appeared to me
[3:13:03 AM] Sirius 17: she was in a white dress with a white head bandana and it all had this floral pattern of cutouts on it
[3:13:25 AM] Sirius 17: her hair was very long and she was smiling and laughing at me and said that i found her
[3:14:22 AM] Sirius 17: then i said to her well this device led me to you and she said , yeah pretty neat, we should stay in touch this way, these things are kind of fun aren't they?
[3:14:52 AM] Sirius 17: and then i looked at my device and looked up at her and suddenly we were in Florida
[3:15:07 AM] Sirius 17: and at some shopping center/mall in a parking lot
[3:16:11 AM] Sirius 17: and she was skipping off like a little girl and said that she had to get going now but that i could 'intrude' on her anytime, pointing at the device
[3:16:48 AM] Sirius 17: and that is all i can remember
[3:19:43 AM] Sirius 17: but this device it let me do things to her, funny things, like tickle her toes or stroke her hair, it made it like i was there doing it
[3:20:03 AM] Sirius 17: yet all i was doing was touching a computer screen
[3:20:16 AM] Sirius 17: it was small like a cell phone size or small tablet
[3:21:02 AM] Sirius 17: and the screen was green and when i touched it it changed colors underneath my fingertips, to like bright fuscia pink, cyan blue, red, purple, ect ect
[3:21:40 AM] Sirius 17: anyhow, i figured i would tell you because i have not dreamed of her in a very long time
[3:26:38 AM] Sirius 17: maybe you will tell me about your dream that you had
[3:48:23 AM] Sirius 17: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pitru_Paksha&oldid=624138875 this is interesting, an Indian poet friend of mine on fb put this link up.
[3:48:52 AM] Sirius 17:

ype Hindu
Celebrations 16 lunar days (the period comprises 16 lunar days, which may not correspond to 16 solar days)
Observances Shraddha: paying homage to their ancestors, especially by food offerings
Begins Full moon day of Bhadrapada
Ends Sarvapitri Amavasya: new moon day
Date September/October
2013 date September 19 – October 4
2014 date September 9 – September 23
Related to Ancestor worship

[3:49:32 AM] Sirius 17: they symbolically feed their ancestors
[3:51:49 AM] Sirius 17: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhadra_%28month%29
[3:52:13 AM] Sirius 17:

Bhadra or Bhadrapada or Bhaado (Hindi: भादों bhaado, Sanskrit: भाद्रपद bhaadrapad, Nepali: भाद्र Bhadra) is a month of the Hindu calendar that corresponds to August/September in the Gregorian calendar.[1] In India's national civil calendar (Shaka calendar), Bhadra is the sixth month of the year, beginning on 23 August and ending on 22 September. Known as Purattaasi, it is the sixth month of the Tamil solar calendar. In solar religious calendars, Bhadra begins with the Sun's entry into Virgo, and is usually the sixth month of the year. In Nepal's Bikram Sambat, Bhadra is the fifth month.
In lunar religious calendars, Bhadra begins on the new moon in August/September and is the sixth month of the year. The festival of Ganesha Chaturthi, celebrating the birthday of Ganesha, is observed from the 4-10 Bhadrapada in the bright fortnight and is the main holiday of the year in Maharashtra. Per Shaka calendar, the dark fortnight of Bhadrapada is reserved for the veneration of the dead. This period is known as Pitru Paksha.
In the Vaishnava calendar, Hrishikesh governs this month.
The Goddess Radha was born on the eighth day of this month.

[3:55:54 AM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radha
[3:56:23 AM] Sirius 17:

In the Vaishnava devotional or bhakti traditions of Hinduism that focus on Krishna, Radha is Krishna's friend and advisor. For some of the adherents of these traditions, her importance approaches or even exceeds that of Krishna. She is considered to be his original shakti, the supreme goddess in both the Nimbarka Sampradaya and following the advent of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu also within the Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition. Other gopis are usually considered to be her maidservants, with Radha having the prominent position of Krishna's favour. It has been mentioned in the narration of the Skanda Purana that out of a billion of gopis, 16,000 are prominent. Out of these, 108 are important, and out of 108, eight are principal. Out of eight gopis, Radha and Chandravali are chief, and out of these two Radha is superior. Between Radha and Rukmini, Radha is superior. All the gopis are reincarnation of goddess Lakshmi.[7]

[3:56:38 AM] Sirius 17: interesting synchros
[12:23:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes your dream correlates with my impressions
[12:24:22 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: My dream was lots of stuff but the relevance is that there was a box of sorts about 80% full and the message was clear about the missing 20%
[12:25:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: For the 80% you provide input and cross reference; but the last 20% no longer require your cooperation and will be 'taken care of by the Logos'
[12:26:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Then your dream about DD relates to this as that we no longer have to 'work on prospective' cores and so on. Your magic device then simply becomes your open line to the Logos then activated to manifest its own agenda after your groundwork was laid by your cooperative works and efforts of the 80%

[12:28:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ-QsMYqzoY

[12:30:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Look at the front page at my final version of the 'Terrestrial Mother of All Life That Is Extraterrestrial'. You for one will be able to decode this.

[12:32:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Ganesha festival in India is simply a synchronization with the September-October countdown of the major 3½ year timeline from Easter 2011 to September-October 2014.

Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted 59 Minutes Ago

Jorgelito - Posted 35 Minutes Ago

You got me thinking, Tony. Factual expressions are like stepping stones, it seems, that can make possible an unwarranted quantum jump -- not based on experience or reason or fact -- taking us to a perimeter where we may cross or not. It is as if our reasoning process -- our observatioins -- and the words we use -- take us to "an appointed time" in which things are revealed -- a fragment of a universe independent of any structure or form. It seems as we got there through our own effort, but this is not the case. These take us to a boundary. If we cross, we remember what we had forgotten. What do you think about the notion? I am reminded of someone you may know . . .

Kurt Gödel
"A consistency proof for [any sufficiently powerful] system … can be carried out only by means of modes of inference that are not formalized in the system … itself."
In other words, for a (mathematical) system to be complete it needs to include the inconsistent (e.g. 2x2=9). If the system is entirely coinsistent. it will not be complete. Makes one think.

Yes the famous Gödelian paradox underpinning all of mathematics. But as you can see it says, that the 'proving of the facts mathematical' require a superior aka encompassing system (say of arithmetic or algebra). It does not say, that facts cannot be 'proven' by more extensive mathematical systems.
My point then is that the more encompassing system in terms of the spacetime cosmology is the higher dimensional mirror-string-brane cosmology and as described by this chart.
The tesseract as a Salvador Dali artform expression so becomes a lower D unfoldment of higher D reality and the discussion below attempts to clarify this. The more complete physics of the Mirror Dragons then does in fact incorporate the 'incompleteness theorem of Gödel' in the form of higher dimensional membrane cosmologies in curved spacetimes encompassing lower dimensional cosmologies in 'Euclidean flat' or 'straight' spacetimes.

[1:32:05 PM] Sirius 17: oops i need to upload your edited chart lol
[1:32:13 PM] Sirius 17: i added this chart to the new eve thread
[1:32:21 PM] Sirius 17: you added a lot of stuff
[1:33:03 PM] Sirius 17: we have been at the state fair all day, we just got back
[1:33:08 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent Gaia13D.png Gaia13D.png ***
[1:33:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=1B99AA8A-3115-4559-8C64-4A80512A5616&lastp=1&id=0E9AF3A0-C3BF-4AD1-9A21-FC86D60413E9
[1:33:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This link is the best perhaps
[1:33:58 PM] Sirius 17: so what was your dream about? the box?
[1:34:12 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i am looking at that link now
[1:34:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I have many impressions, but this one relates in a logical sense
[1:34:54 PM] Sirius 17: hmm, yes it was strange for me to dream of her
[1:34:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?attachments/gaia13d-png.1747/
[1:35:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: She was in a frenzy a day ago on Moa
[1:35:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw this and she mentioned to oxy about all of us Thubans being real
[1:36:08 PM] Sirius 17: and the megadeath song
[1:36:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: September 17th defines the new covenant
[1:36:42 PM] Sirius 17: the one i shared on the forums a long time ago
[1:37:14 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: [1:32 PM] Sirius 17:

<<< i added this chart to the new eve thread

what forum?
[1:37:39 PM] Sirius 17: http://cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-new-eve.158/#post-929
[1:38:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You are uploading pics to there or are you using spruz urls?
[1:38:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If you use spruz they might get lost
[1:38:30 PM] Sirius 17: no i am uploading them like you said
[1:38:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Good they are safe then
[1:39:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Just replace the pic with the url above
[1:39:22 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?attachments/gaia13d-png.1747/
[1:39:33 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[1:39:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Saves you uploading it
[1:39:53 PM] Sirius 17: no biggie
[1:39:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No
[1:39:59 PM] Sirius 17: [12:25:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: For the 80% you provide input and cross reference; but the last 20% no longer require your cooperation and will be 'taken care of by the Logos'
[1:40:15 PM] Sirius 17: can you clarify what you mean here?
[1:40:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This was the message, it might have been 95%
[1:40:46 PM] Sirius 17: true
[1:41:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It means you can 'let it be' once this marker is reached in the timeline
[1:41:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I do feel a change in DD, perhaps Xeia too
[1:41:35 PM] Sirius 17: how so?
[1:41:40 PM] Sirius 17: i have no expectations anymore
[1:41:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But he is trying, this counts for something
[1:43:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If his mind is strong but his body weak it means he will give in to the body many times
[1:43:37 PM] Sirius 17: no i saw that too, but what marker do you mean?
[1:44:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This was the dream part
[1:44:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It showed this container and all the work to get to a level almost full but not
[1:44:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But from that point onwards it was ok just to let Logos do whatever
[1:44:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[1:45:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And just after this impression DD went crazy
[1:45:47 PM] Sirius 17: i don't feel so good about Xeia or DD still, only higher d maybe, but lower D, they are still very much the same
[1:45:54 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So there is a core relation from the ment-ment to all cores
[1:46:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I would not disagree
[1:46:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes and my dream picked up on that i feel
[1:46:16 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[1:46:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Long way to go
[1:46:32 PM] Sirius 17: it was not DD, but the MILD communicating to me, yes
[1:46:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But the covenant will manifest in the next 4 weeks and this applies to true testimony keepers more so then to others
[1:47:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[1:47:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lassie not the FL nabser
[1:47:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes, this was who i saw in the dream
[1:47:40 PM] Sirius 17: i tickeled her toes lol
[1:47:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lassie = CJ and Laddie = JC
[1:48:00 PM] Sirius 17: something about her feet, don't ask me what the hell it means
[1:48:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I wont
[1:48:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: My feet are the issue in the physical though - the Pisces eon and part of Vitruvius and the ankles of Aquarius as the Achilles heel of the serpent's curse from Eden's exile of the cosmogenesis
[1:48:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes i did think of that
[1:48:52 PM] Sirius 17: and the dry river bed ? what is that?
[1:48:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes JCCJ means 2 bodies = 1
[1:49:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No matter what silly human minds do or construct
[1:49:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Euphrates
[1:49:29 PM] Sirius 17: why did i see her appear to me in a dry river bed?
[1:49:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: the preparation for the kings from the east
[1:49:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: wait
[1:50:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

Revelation 16:12 - King James Version (KJV)
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

[1:51:37 PM] Sirius 17: hmm and this has happened just now in the timeline?
[1:51:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

[1:52:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: multilevel but in the Noah Covenant it is about now
[1:52:50 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: September 17th is when Noah and family enter the New World
[1:53:05 PM] Sirius 17: there was something about frogs in this dream too but i can't remember
[1:53:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So a Armageddon of sorts
[1:53:14 PM] Sirius 17: like this device had a frog on it or something
[1:53:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes your intuitions are spot on
[1:53:41 PM] Sirius 17: this is not my intuitions, i dreamed this
[1:54:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is just synchro, dont make too much of it; but it is meant to give you hope and confirmation
[1:54:09 PM] Sirius 17: so it is coming from my subconscious mind, i really have no clue why i dreamed dd
[1:54:20 PM] Sirius 17: i was not thinking about her or anything to do with her
[1:54:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is what i meant
[1:54:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Subconscious symbols aka intuition
[1:54:55 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes i know something is up
[1:55:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Entering waking consciousness THROUGH dreams
[1:55:20 PM] Sirius 17: lol yeah, something like that
[1:55:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[1:55:33 PM] Sirius 17: i wish it were all the time i had this awareness
[1:55:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Its in the sleeping alpha mode you have it
[1:56:03 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[1:56:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Your dreams are much more lucid and clear than mine
[1:56:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Why I dont talk much about mine, but I have many now
[1:57:00 PM] Sirius 17: i miss you Tonylove have you been ok? you have not talked too much these past weeks and i have missed you.
[1:57:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This chart is potent and I put it first on the homepage on spruz
[1:57:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is beautiful
[1:57:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I am ok and feel the change of the cosmic jurisdiction
[1:57:58 PM] Sirius 17: i saw you added the strings and plutonic solids
[1:58:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[1:58:16 PM] Sirius 17: and i feel it's validity
[1:58:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol
[1:58:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I said this years ago, that the 5 trees are the Plato solids and also string classes
[1:58:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember
[1:59:34 PM] Sirius 17: but i mean this is the first time you have shown in diagram with the lanikea thing ect how the dimensions work as the cosmos inner and outer, it is really beautiful
[1:59:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I searched the web yesterday to confirm something about Euler's formula regarding the Tesseract
[2:00:16 PM] Sirius 17: and there sits the cosmic ovum, Gaia, it is so cool
[2:00:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I expected to find the fact, that the UNFOLDED Tesseract has the same equation in the higher D, than the lower D
[2:00:38 PM] Sirius 17: oh and does it?
[2:00:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I could not find it, so it COULD be a great discovery
[2:01:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Oh I realised this in a download from the Thuban mothership
[2:01:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: X=V-E+F-2=0 is called Euler characteristic
[2:02:23 PM] Sirius 17: question...is that V minus E?
[2:02:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: V=Vertices in a solid; E=Number of Edges and F=Number of Faces
[2:02:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[2:02:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So anyone can figure this out
[2:02:41 PM] Sirius 17: ok, i was not sure i was reading it right
[2:03:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Now the point is that the unfolded Tesseract OBEYS this equation, but the higher D one does not as the latter adds the C=Cells in the embedded geometry
[2:03:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I searched the web for someone having said just this.
[2:04:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Namely, that the unfolded tesseract obeys the lower D form of the Euler characteristic
[2:04:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I could not find it, but this is so simple (relatively), that I do expect some mathematician having published that
[2:05:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Adding Cells changes the Euler formula to X=V-E+F-C=0
[2:05:32 PM] Sirius 17: humm so you expect it to be the same but are not totally sure?
[2:05:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It IS the same for the Tesseract. Just count the parameters in the picture
[2:06:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I expect someone to have made a point of it, but could not find this mentioned anywhere on wiki say
[2:07:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The higher D form of the Tesseract is the 'embeddd little cube' inside a bigger cube
[2:07:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:07:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The unfolded form is the deconstruction into 7 and 8 cubes put together lego style
[2:08:01 PM] Sirius 17: like the cross image to the right?
[2:08:11 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Counting the deconstructed parameters resurrects the original Euler formula
[2:08:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes
[2:08:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Salvador Dali art
[2:09:14 PM] Sirius 17: the surrealism
[2:09:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I wrote the details onto the chart. See the two brackets beneath the tesseract?
[2:09:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[2:09:58 PM] Sirius 17: 16;32'24'8
[2:10:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The implication is, that at least for the Tesseract the 'Conifolded' or collapsed dimensions CAN be opened up in a lower D reconstruction as an Unfolding geometry
[2:11:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes {16;32;24;8} is the higher D form published with cells C=8
[2:11:21 PM] Sirius 17: i don't understand what you mean by cells though
[2:11:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This would show the 'secret of M-theory' as the 11th Mirror-membrane dimension
[2:12:37 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The cube has 8 corners. Each corner of the bigger cube links to one of 8 corners of the little cube - ergo 8 cells as corner to corner lines
[2:13:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: A corner is a Vertex V
[2:13:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: {32;60;30;0} is the form I looked for with C=0
[2:14:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I could not find this representation for the tesseract unfolded or 'collapsed' into lower D from higher D
[2:15:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Tesseract embedded has 16 vertices see; but the unfolded one has 32
[2:15:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes i don't know if i have seen it before either
[2:15:16 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok so doubled
[2:15:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 16 because there are 2 cubes with 8 corners each
[2:15:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No not particularly
[2:16:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Just count the corners of 6 cubes without the central one
[2:16:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 4x6=24
[2:16:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Then add the 8 of the central cube 'hidden'
[2:16:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 24+8=32
[2:17:03 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok
[2:17:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The bottom 2 cubes are justy a rectangular prism with 8 corners and 12 edges counting the obscured parts
[2:18:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Similarly count edges and faces and you get the old Euler formula with V-E+F=2
[2:19:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 32-60+30=62-60=2
[2:19:06 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.well.com/~abs/SIGGRAPH96/4Dtess.html
[2:19:10 PM] Sirius 17: i did find this
[2:19:16 PM] Sirius 17: no idea if this helps
[2:20:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is what I found. description of the geometry but NOT the Euler formulation becoming transformed by the unfolding dynamics
[2:21:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If you find those numbers: V=32 with E=60 and F=30; THEN you have found something regarding this.
[2:21:51 PM] Sirius 17: well if a new discovery what does it mean?
[2:22:19 PM] Sirius 17: i mean will you get credit for it at all?
[2:22:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: it confirms the Thuban Cosmology and the holofractal universe with ALL of the universes' information located at the inner surface horizon of the cosmos as being also at the center of the Earth as a Black Hole singularity
[2:23:16 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I dont care about this at all lol. Dont do a Serafina on me
[2:23:57 PM] Sirius 17: no i just wondered dear lol
[2:24:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Irrelevant. I am sure mathematiccians know about it, but noone yet made a fuss about it and linked it to the hidden dimensions of string theory
[2:25:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But add this as a reply to the last Moa post if you can. It explains much of the chart
[2:25:52 PM] Sirius 17: well i don't think they would think of it yet, afterall this is Logos cosmology and pretty advanced i would say
[2:26:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Relative to mathophobians yes, but not to the researchers in the topologies
[2:27:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But anyone can indeed check my claim see? Just count corners and edges and faces and see if the numbers add up
[2:28:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And I looked for someone 'claiming' this mathematical fact, but could not find it as yet
[2:29:07 PM] Sirius 17: oh did you see the latest news on quantum entanglement, this picture they did
[2:29:11 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: {32;60;30}={V:E;F} in the Euler Characteristic is the expression to look for
[2:29:20 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.iflscience.com/physics/entangled-portrait-schr%C3%B6dinger%E2%80%99s-cat
[2:29:39 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes i will look for it and see if i can find anything
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26111-schrodingers-cat-caught-on-quantum-film.html#.VA0xSWOjbVP
[2:33:56 PM] Sirius 17: here is another article on it
[2:40:01 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes all good I am using this as a reply to Doug
[2:40:05 PM] Sirius 17: pretty cool huh
[2:41:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You are not focusing. We discussing higher D geometry of the Tesseract and suddenly you change track to quantum teleportation
[2:43:00 PM] Sirius 17: no i just wanted to ask you about it is all, i wondered if you had seen it
[2:43:09 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cut-the-knot.com/ctk/Tesseract.shtml
[2:43:12 PM] Sirius 17: i am reading this
[2:43:42 PM] Sirius 17:

Hypercube is a multidimensional analogue of a 3-dimensional cube in that each coordinate of a point in a hypercube is restricted to the same 1-dimensional (line) segment. Tesseract is a 4-dimensional hypercube. In anticipation of MAM 2000, a remark by A. K. Dewdney served an additional reason to write about the tesseract. Wrote he, "Dimensions seem to creep up in everywhere as HYPERCUBE is written." Dewdney was referring to matrices (2-dimensional objects) and vectors (1-dimensional objects) that are part of any modern computer language. They are also handy in describing and manipulating multidimensional objects. It's a tribute to these mathematical notations that they make a CUBE variant of the program virtually indistinguishable from its HYPERCUBE analogue.

[2:43:54 PM] Sirius 17: except the silly java applets will not work for me
[2:44:22 PM] Sirius 17: something about java not being compatable with 8.1 windows ughhh
[2:53:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Microsoft is not improving but is going backwards with its gimmicks
[2:54:26 PM] Sirius 17: i know, it is really messing with my ability to connect also
[2:54:54 PM] Sirius 17: so if you think skype is lagging it could be my shitty connection
[2:55:11 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!zrzor45!-!KJHHRLGE-NHFF-HESR-MRHM-DMDFJQQHNGOR!-!72y1nq/dali1christ.jpg
[2:55:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=0E9AF3A0-C3BF-4AD1-9A21-FC86D60413E9
[2:56:33 PM] Sirius 17: oh wow
[2:58:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was not familar with this Salvador Dali piece
[2:58:03 PM] Sirius 17: it is beautiful
[2:59:11 PM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6-cube does any of this help?
[3:01:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: [2:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

<<< {32;60;30}={V:E;F} in the Euler Characteristic is the expression to look for

Recall this? Can you see anything resembling this in your searches? I do not need 'help', but simply am a little surprised that this simple unfolding patterns SEEMS not to be debated by the 'experts'.
[3:02:09 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=6D+Cube+crop+circle&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=6d+cube+crop+circle&sc=0-9&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&id=B3C8073AD76C89E59B66D65EDB4DB3F69D2BA487&selectedIndex=6

[3:02:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am looking for that
[3:03:00 PM] Sirius 17: but i also am getting 'urged' on this 6D cube too
[3:03:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well this might be a key, I noticed yesterday.
[3:04:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The wiki unfolding dynamics uses 8 cubes for the unfolded Tesseract see; but I am using the basic 6 say as the cube cut out from a sheet of paper with 7 squares
[3:05:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There are ONLY 6 squares, but in creating the 3D cube from the 2D area, one creates a 7th - see this?
[3:05:51 PM] Sirius 17: oh cool
[3:06:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So my numbers derive from 6 cubes only, the 7th being the central adjacency and the 8th the rectangular double cube as a stance say.
[3:06:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Dali's tesseract has a double cube stand see this"
[3:07:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is unneccessary in the Euler construction
[3:07:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I mentioned this earlier by the way
[3:07:47 PM] Sirius 17: oh no i didn't see it but i see it now
[3:08:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The double cube has 8 corners and 12 edges and 6 faces just as a single cube
[3:08:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It relates to our famous Möbian strip doubling of the inner ring - outer ring band area
[3:09:06 PM] Sirius 17: oh neat yes
[3:09:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The volume doubles for the single cube, but the Euler characteristic remains the same
[3:10:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is a well know fact in advanced Topological Algebra and group theory, that one can double the volume of 'a universe' by separating-cutting certain surfaces/manifolds and gluing them back together - for example in knot theory
[3:11:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This was also a great 'breakthrough' at Princeton in 1994 when Green, Witten and co proved certain mathematical requirements in string duality

[3:19:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes true, you have explained this before
[3:20:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I am adding this 6cube crop circle
[3:20:55 PM] Sirius 17: does the Euler characteristic remain the same because the edges are all touching 1D?
[3:21:31 PM] Sirius 17: so linespace
[3:24:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No the Euler Formula simply counts V and E and F in the basic form but adds C in the advanced form
[3:25:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Euler Characteristic then is called Chi or Greek X with 2 becoming the encompassing form of all cells as C=2
[3:26:33 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This relates to the famous Fermat Theorem of the Xⁿ +Yⁿ = Zⁿ only holding for n=2
[3:29:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This was 'proven' by VERY advanced conglomerations of various branches of mathematics by the Englishman Andrew Wiles in 1993 after mathematicians tried to do this for 300 years from Fermat's original hypothesis of 1637
[3:31:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The 'proof' is 200 pages long lol, showing you the intricacies of mathematics

[3:31:51 PM] Sirius 17:
In number theory, Fermat's Last Theorem (sometimes called Fermat's conjecture, especially in older texts) states that no three positive integers a, b, and c can satisfy the equation aⁿ+bⁿ=cⁿ for any integer value of n greater than two.

[3:32:01 PM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat%27s_Last_Theorem
[3:32:07 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes i remember this
[3:32:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[3:32:45 PM] Sirius 17: skype really messes with the math fonts
[3:32:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The emphasis on the number 2 is what seems to be related to the Euler Formula in a much simpler way, then the 200 page proof of Wiles
[3:33:18 PM] Sirius 17: i wonder if they care about that at microsoft, seems embarrasing
[3:33:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is Pythagoras as the basis for understanding Special Relativity in physics
[3:35:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Dragon science also has a sort of shortcut; namely the exploration of the Summation Integral of particle histories in the Fibonacci solution of Euler's famous exponential form connecting the transcendental numbers of the natural logarithm with pi and the imaginary complex number of i=squareroot of negative 1
[3:36:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: T(n)=n(n+1)-1=0 defines Fibonacci and T(n)+2 leads also to this factor of 2
[3:36:41 PM] Sirius 17: but also relates to the two dimensional space as the mobius and this too right?
[3:36:44 PM] Sirius 17:

Bi-dimensional space is a geometric model of the planar projection of the physical universe in which we live. The two dimensions are commonly called length and width. Both directions lie in the same plane.
In physics and mathematics, a sequence of n real numbers can be understood as a location in n-dimensional space. When n = 2, the set of all such locations is called 2-dimensional space or bi-dimensional space, and usually is thought of as an Euclidean space.
In physics, our bi-dimensional space is viewed as a planar representation of the space in which we move, described as bi-dimensional space or two-dimensional space.

[3:36:57 PM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-dimensional_space
[3:37:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is the characteristic of area space yes. This becomes the 11-D Witten Mirror of the Membrane Mystery of the Matrixed Magic of the Mother lol
[3:37:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: MMMMM..
[3:38:05 PM] Sirius 17: hehe
[3:38:42 PM] Sirius 17: lol i like your definition best
[3:38:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Also W upside down for Witten, as one critic remarked
[3:39:00 PM] Sirius 17: but then you have to add in Witten's Magic too
[3:39:07 PM] Sirius 17: that too lol
[3:41:41 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3666p300-thuban-101-general-introduction-and-history
[3:41:47 PM] Sirius 17: have you see this?
[3:44:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: ok
[3:45:11 PM] Sirius 17: i did not see this reply on our threads
[3:45:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes, she must have missed this harmony we once expressed
[3:45:28 PM] Sirius 17: i just saw on her own thread, wow she really did go nuts
[3:45:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes this is why I said she went crazy
[3:46:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Your dream see?
[3:46:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[3:47:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Your dreams are potent and provide deep feedback from the Logos
[3:47:50 PM] Sirius 17: i am putting this reply on legacy on moa is that alright?
[3:48:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes where the Gaia chart is
[3:48:09 PM] Sirius 17: ok

Jorgelito - Posted 29 Minutes Ago

Godel's theorem is in agreement with factual expressions (theorem, law, fact); further we can build on these in linear fashion just as we do. Hoever, he infers that even with careful science, we will never arrive at "complete" understanding, never arrive a "true" picture. I'm not sure what "true" and "complete" mean, but I'm aware as I'm sure you are, there are many ways we can know things -- awake dreams, uninvited inspiration, looking at Dali. Nice chatting.

There is my point Jorgelito - linear! This is also commonly associated with the difference between analog and digital computers and then standard and quantum parallel computing. I tried to indicate to you that paradoxes of all kinds will eventually succumb to more encompassing evolved models and cosmologies. Gödel is not wrong, but his own factualities are incomplete to expand its propositions.

Post n°602

Re: Aquaries1111 Corner

Aquaries1111 Today at 1:27 pm

Aquaries1111 wrote:We are "ALL NEO".. Wake Up!

We are the "one" we have been waiting for!

Raven-

This is for your eyes only "in confirmation" to your "Dream"... which tells me, you are becoming more and more awake and aware in your consciousness as never before... This is the truth, and tis for you in your dreaming desire for confirmation in clarity... I hope to shed some light.. not in interpretation, anymore, to connect only in sharing that "We InDDeeDD are All connected"... We carry each other... as we are carried by the Mother... The Galactic Mother, carries us home.. from the stars we came, and to the stars we shall we return.

Here is the truth from my perspective in this reality, which did indeed co-incide with your beautiful DDream...

I was sitting outside in the beautiful Florida sunshine on a wooden deck with my Son "Taylor".. and Taylor said to me "Look Mum, there's a frog". I looked straight ahead and there was a "Frog". I'd honestly, never seen a "Frog".. I'd only ever seen Toads.. This frog took a leap toward me.. What was it doing? Why wasn't it running away? It was close, but not so close that I was about to "Leap".. and then, this Frog, leaped again, on top of me.. My body jumped and I jittered, and the poor frog had no choice but to land on the hot wooden deck that I was sitting on.. I said to "Taylor".. Bring the Frog a bowl of water.. so he did.. in an orange bowl, for all intense in descriptiveness.. Then Taylor said "Mum, it's eye is bleeding, maybe it can't see"? I looked at the Frog's eye, and he was right.. this Frog had a disturbed eye.. and it could not see... Now I knew, why I leapt on me, without fear.. it couldn't see me. I was invisible. I laid the bowl of water to where the Frog could enjoy it, should it see it.. The Frog then leaped "Over" the bowl of water. I knew then, it could not properly "see".. then the Frog leapt under the "Hand Made Wooden Gate".. Oh by the way, the wooden deck was also hand made.. with Love.. So then I took the bowl of water and poured it onto the deck toward where the Frog had leapt under the wooden fence.. and I envisioned the Frog being cooled down in a hot sunny Florida day.. with no place to find a lake, unless it headed toward the Creek in the back yard where the banana trees grow.. I pray some day the Frog will visit me and say "Thank you" for your "Intent" for "Nothing else mattered"..

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[19/09/2014 5:01:35 PM-+10UCT] Shiloh Za-Rah: 3 Mirrors is all they are
[19/09/2014 5:01:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I feel you can get it
[19/09/2014 5:01:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But can you focus?
[19/09/2014 5:01:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have always remembered the mirrors
[19/09/2014 5:02:07 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[19/09/2014 5:02:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Good I am updating xen now , so be patient
[19/09/2014 5:02:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I will look for this photo you should have it
[19/09/2014 5:03:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It might be in a draw
[19/09/2014 5:04:36 PM] Sirius 17: so you are asking me to use doug as my mirror to James
[19/09/2014 5:04:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes in whatever way you like
[19/09/2014 5:05:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: see yourself as Doug's harlot wife
[19/09/2014 5:05:14 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Not Jacob, Jacob is just a bodyform atm
[19/09/2014 5:05:14 PM] Sirius 17: he would love that
[19/09/2014 5:05:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Like DD
[19/09/2014 5:05:33 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[19/09/2014 5:05:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They dont have a clue but things must physicalize ergo the discomforts
[19/09/2014 5:05:54 PM] Sirius 17: so your still having issues with the forums?
[19/09/2014 5:06:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes i wondered about that
[19/09/2014 5:06:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I feel Dd being very annoyed with things
[19/09/2014 5:06:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The spam came back after I uploaded
[19/09/2014 5:06:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes she is bored shitless
[19/09/2014 5:06:51 PM] Sirius 17: you never did tell me what you thought of her frog with the bloody eye
[19/09/2014 5:07:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Easy the frog is the 'curses' of the devil mind
[19/09/2014 5:07:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As the devil is blind so is DD and Jacob etc
[19/09/2014 5:07:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Frog is her blindness
[19/09/2014 5:07:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Read Rev.16
[19/09/2014 5:08:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Abomination memes mental
[19/09/2014 5:08:09 PM] Sirius 17: oh so the frog was herself lol
[19/09/2014 5:08:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes part of
[19/09/2014 5:08:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: blind as a bat
[19/09/2014 5:08:24 PM] Sirius 17: she watered the frog
[19/09/2014 5:08:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: She wants to see
[19/09/2014 5:08:34 PM] Sirius 17: meaning she is drying up
[19/09/2014 5:08:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes
[19/09/2014 5:08:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Doug+53 MIRROR Waves into incarnation
[19/09/2014 5:09:04 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i got the feeling she is missing us
[19/09/2014 5:09:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As waves are one any number of 'couples' can tune in
[19/09/2014 5:09:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But as they dont get it, only the ones that know can help the Logos waves
[19/09/2014 5:09:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Both of us are mirrors for the waves
[19/09/2014 5:10:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes

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Greetings

Aquaries1111 Today at 4:01

Greetings all of the Misty Members...

If George Gordon from the Spirit Realm isn't filling you up now, then I don't know what will. I Love George Gordon. He is filling me, reminding me, with Spiritual Common Sense!

So now, I got to reflecting upon this ABBA, Winner Takes it All... I've realized that God 1) wouldn't take from his children and 2) If there is a Winner, then who is the Loser? What am I saying, "We are All Divinely Connected". I came to realize, there is no Winner, there is no Loser, and there is No Box. We are here to "experience", so we can become...Become what? I won't answer you this.You must "Ponder" what you are becoming.. Ravens Brew or Ravens Blue.. The purple dawn or the silver moon.. or You can just "Become Yourself". Whynot? If you wonder what the Frog wants, become the Frog.. and go get you some "Water".. Trickle(s).. The Rain here has been, some days, an all day thing... The Frogs are being taken care of.. by Nature, without you or me to determine its experience. What is the Frog experiencing? It's experiencing what it is experiencing.. What are you experiencing? Ravens Brew, Blue, or Ravens Water? Go drink it, as Alice did, and tell me how you "feel". It's been a while, I know. Everything is "changing". We are "growing" in consciousness. Enjoy the Ride.. without conclusion.. so here, I will share a few videos.. in reflection to one another..

So I'm going to put ABBA to rest, and shine the light on something new, you.

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Re: The Legacy of Thuban Omni-Science De Alpha Draconis Omega

Raven on Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:06 am

Universe is Not Expanding After All, Controversial Study Suggests

This image shows a star forming region in a nearby galaxy known as the Large Magellanic Cloud. Image credit: ESA / Hubble.

In their study, the scientists tested one of the striking predictions of the Big Bang theory – that ordinary geometry does not work at great distances.
In the space around us, on Earth, in the Solar System and our Milky Way Galaxy, as similar objects get farther away, they look fainter and smaller. Their surface brightness, that is the brightness per unit area, remains constant.

In contrast, the Big Bang theory tells us that in an expanding Universe objects actually should appear fainter but bigger. Thus in this theory, the surface brightness decreases with the distance. In addition, the light is stretched as the Universe expanded, further dimming the light.
So in an expanding Universe the most distant galaxies should have hundreds of times dimmer surface brightness than similar nearby galaxies, making them actually undetectable with present-day telescopes.

But that is not what observations show, as demonstrated by this new study published in the International Journal of Modern Physics D.
The scientists carefully compared the size and brightness of about a thousand nearby and extremely distant galaxies. They chose the most luminous spiral galaxies for comparisons, matching the average luminosity of the near and far samples.
Contrary to the prediction of the Big Bang theory, they found that the surface brightnesses of the near and far galaxies are identical.
These results are consistent with what would be expected from ordinary geometry if the Universe was not expanding, and are in contradiction with the drastic dimming of surface brightness predicted by the expanding Universe hypothesis.

“Of course, you can hypothesize that galaxies were much smaller, and thus had hundreds of times greater intrinsic surface brightness in the past, and that, just by coincidence, the Big Bang dimming exactly cancels that greater brightness at all distances to produce the illusion of a constant brightness, but that would be a very big coincidence,” Mr Lerner said.

That was not the only startling result of their research. In order to apply the surface brightness test, first proposed in 1930 by physicist Richard C. Tolman, the team had to determine the actual luminosity of the galaxies, so as to match near and far galaxies.
To do that, the astrophysicists had to link the distance to the galaxies with their redshift. They hypothesized that the distance is proportional to the redshift at all distances, as is well verified to be the case in the nearby Universe.
They checked this relation between redshift and distance with the data on supernova brightness that has been used to measure the hypothesized accelerated expansion of the Universe.

“It is amazing that the predictions of this simple formula are as good as the predictions of the expanding Universe theory, which include complex corrections for hypothetical dark matter and dark energy,” said study co-author Dr Renato Falomo of the Osservatorio Astronomico di Padova, Italy.
Dr Riccardo Scarpa from the Instituto de Astrofısica de Canarias, Spain, who is a co-author of the study, added: “again you could take this to be merely coincidental, but it would be a second big coincidence.”

Therefore if the Universe is not expanding, the redshift of light with increasing distance must be caused by some other phenomena – something that happens to the light itself as it travels through space.
“We are not speculating now as to what could cause the redshift of light,” Mr Lerner said.
”However, such a redshift, which is not associated with expansion, could be observed with suitable spacecraft within our own Solar System in the future.”
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Eric J. Lerner et al. UV surface brightness of galaxies from the local Universe to z ~ 5. Int. J. Mod. Phys. D, published online May 02, 2014; doi: 10.1142/S0218271814500588

[5:50:32 PM-Saturday, September 20th, 2014] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html
[5:51:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This could actually confirm our 'not accelerating universe' more so than the 'not expanding'
[5:51:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I like the 'simple redshift' cosmology recall
[5:51:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Not the comoving reference frames
[5:51:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes lol
[5:52:01 PM] Sirius 17: a lot of new discoveries are pointing to Thuban science
[5:52:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The dragon universe expands but is smaller than the comoving one
[5:52:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is asymptotic
[5:52:33 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The ordinary Big Bang one is not asymptotic, because it is Black Holed. BHs have an event horizon and so limits
[5:53:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I always detested this expanding more than lightspeed crap. This results in the universe fading away with all star based nuclear fuel running out in say 4 trillion years remember? Then future stargazers will not be able to see any stars in the distant future and all this mainstream nonsense
[5:54:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This makes the relativistic redshift formula inapplicable
[5:54:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I always use this for my calculations
[5:54:38 PM] Sirius 17:

Therefore if the Universe is not expanding, the redshift of light with increasing distance must be caused by some other phenomena – something that happens to the light itself as it travels through space.
“We are not speculating now as to what could cause the redshift of light,” Mr Lerner said.
”However, such a redshift, which is not associated with expansion, could be observed with suitable spacecraft within our own Solar System in the future.”

[5:54:50 PM] Sirius 17: there you go Tony, you should email them with the answer lol
[5:55:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The universe IS expanding with 0.22c atm
[5:55:21 PM] Sirius 17: not that they will listen lol
[5:55:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I like their general observations not the specifics
[5:55:39 PM] Sirius 17: i was talking about the redshift
[5:56:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes there then is a present redshift OF the universe itself and NOT the space itsellf
[5:56:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The universe expands lower D into higher D
[5:56:34 PM] Sirius 17: yes the lower d is the projector
[5:56:37 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They dont say this, they say the space expands into higher d
[5:56:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Can you see the difference?
[5:56:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[5:57:00 PM] Sirius 17: they can't see it though because if they can't measure it empirically then it doesn't exist
[5:57:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Good science understanding then
[5:57:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The inflation created higher D for the lower D seed
[5:57:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes for creation to fill
[5:57:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: We should post this
[5:58:06 PM] Sirius 17: like a movie screen
[5:58:11 PM] Sirius 17: waiting for the film to start

[6:02:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6780p60-the-legacy-of-thuban-omni-science-de-alpha-draconis-omega
[6:07:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
[5:54 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< Therefore if the Universe is not expanding, the redshift of light with increasing distance must be caused by some other phenomena – something that happens to the light itself as it travels through space.

Yes, the 'light' returns in the cosmic heartbeat of the Mother Black Hole of two halfcycles each of close to 17 billion years
[6:07:38 PM] Sirius 17: it is posted but the sizing did not take on the fonts
[6:07:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Dragons know this as the 'Electromagnetic Return' of the Creation light

[6:08:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You see it is easier to fix posts on Moa than on spruz
[6:08:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[6:08:45 PM] Sirius 17: a lot easier
[6:08:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Because spruz has hidden html
[6:09:01 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is from this susan gets so many error scripts
[6:09:36 PM] Sirius 17: yeah well and now it is so messed up, all your numbers turn into skype phone numbers now too
[6:09:46 PM] Sirius 17: and those irritating links in the scripture
[6:10:12 PM] Sirius 17: hard sometimes to get those out
[6:10:27 PM] Sirius 17: they are everywhere now though, this hidden code
[6:10:55 PM] Sirius 17: JT is right to scream about the whole earth being sold
[6:11:03 PM] Sirius 17: even the virtual world included
[6:11:12 PM] Sirius 17:everything for a price
[6:11:33 PM] Sirius 17: I am with him on the Mammon going to hell part
[6:15:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is true

[6:29:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

“In 5 billion years, the expansion of the universe will have progressed to the point where all other galaxies will have receded beyond detection. Indeed, they will be receding faster than the speed of light, so detection will be impossible. Future civilizations will discover science and all its laws, and never know about other galaxies or the cosmic background radiation. They will inevitably come to the wrong conclusion about the universe......We live in a special time, the only time, where we can observationally verify that we live in a special time.”
― Lawrence M. Krauss, A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing

[6:29:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Absolute mainstream science BS
[6:30:40 PM] Sirius 17: omg he sounds like Donald Rumsfeld and his unknown unknowns
[6:30:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And this Lawrence Krauss is a profound atheist and science populariser spreading lots of disinformation from 'respectable sources'
[6:31:09 PM] Sirius 17: he should be embarrased to attach his name to that lol
[6:31:34 PM] Sirius 17: [6:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
<<< We live in a special time, the only time, where we can observationally verify that we live in a special time.”

this is just too much lol
[6:31:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He was on most popular Q&A television programs here in Oz and also in the US
[6:31:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He is VERY respected Raven as a secularist cosmologist
[6:32:05 PM] Sirius 17: i believe you
[6:32:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Why he is such a disinformer and he is not Nabs, but Oabs
[6:32:24 PM] Sirius 17: so is Hawking and he admited to being wrong, once
[6:33:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I added quite a bit on his good work on the Black Hole Entropy on Jenetta's message
[6:33:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes like Dawkins, too much power and respect even though some of his ideas are a crock
[6:33:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hawkings nowadays is more a geriatric crackpot, than an unbiased scientific thinker
[6:34:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: His 'alien invasion' nonsense is idiotic
[6:34:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes he is making some sensational predictions, seems they use him to boost ratings or something lately
[6:34:34 PM] Sirius 17: exactly, stuff like that

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Re: The Legacy of Thuban Omni-Science De Alpha Draconis Omega

shiloh on Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:28 pm
Aquaries1111 wrote:

Greetings all of the Misty Members...

If George Gordon from the Spirit Realm isn't filling you up now, then I don't know what will. I Love George Gordon. He is filling me, reminding me, with Spiritual Common Sense!

So now, I got to reflecting upon this ABBA, Winner Takes it All... I've realized that God 1) wouldn't take from his children and 2) If there is a Winner, then who is the Loser? What am I saying, "We are All Divinely Connected". I came to realize, there is no Winner, there is no Loser, and there is No Box. We are here to "experience", so we can become...Become what? I won't answer you this.You must "Ponder" what you are becoming.. Ravens Brew or Ravens Blue.. The purple dawn or the silver moon.. or You can just "Become Yourself". Whynot? If you wonder what the Frog wants, become the Frog.. and go get you some "Water".. Trickle(s).. The Rain here has been, some days, an all day thing... The Frogs are being taken care of.. by Nature, without you or me to determine its experience. What is the Frog experiencing? It's experiencing what it is experiencing.. What are you experiencing? Ravens Brew, Blue, or Ravens Water? Go drink it, as Alice did, and tell me how you "feel". It's been a while, I know. Everything is "changing". We are "growing" in consciousness. Enjoy the Ride.. without conclusion.. so here, I will share a few videos.. in reflection to one another..

So I'm going to put ABBA to rest, and shine the light on something new, you.

"Angelina" Maleficent SheHe CJJC IN ONE = ONE IN HeShe JCCJ Beneficent "Aurora"

Can you see where you are?-------------The Heaven of the Freedom of Thuban!

Heaven on Earth Without the MotherFather of Thuban!

Abba Rules Baab Rules Abba!

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Re: The Legacy of Thuban Omni-Science De Alpha Draconis Omega

Aquaries1111 on Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:40 am

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Re: The Legacy of Thuban Omni-Science De Alpha Draconis Omega

shiloh on Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:13 pm
Aquaries1111 wrote:

It can be established on many a factual basis, that the 'Birth of the Catholic Church' and as constructed upon a political-economical basis and say inaugurated at the (in)famous councils of Nicae from anno 325 AD did not pursue the original form of Christianity, but represented a falsified form of the latter.

The video above represents a particular, well researched, however incomplete understanding regarding the symbols and archetypes used.
For example the 'Whore of Babylon' does not carry a singular representation, but applies to the 'female land' and 'Mother Nation Zion' in many associations, such as the mothers and sisters in Ezekiel.23 labelled as "Unfaithful Aholibah-Jerusalem", "Harlot Judah-Israel", "Lewd Aholah-Samaria", and many similar and encoded references.
It is a natural consequence of sequestered and 'hidden or occulted' knowledge, that many original and native archetypes and symbols would become misappropriated and abused by any 'fake representative' of the original genuine representation of the context - here Christianity and the nature and beingness of Jesus of Nazareth in a functional description of a cosmic office of an 'Anointing or Christening' (Melchizedek-Levi-Zadok-Melchisedec).

To then explicitely construct a theology around the presupposed factuality of the 'Catholic religious political instution' and construct to BE this 'Whore of Babylon' then becomes an instrument of deception and disinformation with respect to any potential 'congregation', readership or Oabs- and/or Nabs following.

This history indicated in the above, did serve a greater cosmic agenda however, as it allowed the basic premises as espoused in the New Testament as the successor of the Torah and Old Testament to take root in the evolving global world of the human populus and culture.

It then serves little purpose by 'Orthodox Believers' and 'Logos Deniers' alike to attempt to reconstruct and decode the many symbolic metaphors and allegories encountered in the 'source books' without reference to the 'decoding keys' contained in the same.

To blame Jesuits and the popes and bishops and clergymen and the Christian sects or any particular individual associated with the name 'Christianity' in general and in reference to the Christian bible for the mismanagement of the legacy and testimony of Jesus of Nazareth then betrays more the shortcomings and inability of the 'would be preachers', evangelists and 'scripture teachers' of applying those 'Keys of Understanding' in whatever personalised agenda of bias they might adhere to and affiliate with.

Under the guise of 'well read expertise' and experience then, individualised agendas, such as portrayed in the video above and similar agendas with an often opposite emphasis (zeitgeist, thrive and 'astrotheologians' etc.) and irrespective of their honourable intent and presuppositions, nevertheless then often become subject in utility to corruption and misrepresentations from divers sources and within nefarious contexts of mind manipulations and deceptions.

Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin
(39) Jesus said, "The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves."

2 Peter 1:19-21 - King James Version (KJV)
¹⁹ We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
²⁰ Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
²¹ For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 13:9-11
⁹ For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
¹⁰ But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
¹¹ When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Ephesians 6:12
¹² For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Reading of the Sealed Book and the Universal Language

When 'That Infamous Woman' is the 'Fake-Woman' aka the 'Group-Consciousness' of an entire world, which as the 'Devil-Mind' aka the 'System of Thought of intrinsic Separatedness' aka 'The Whore of Babylon' aka the 'Fake-Barbelo' aka the 'Fake-Babalon' of gnostic lore and exposition does not wish to understand, because as 'Inside She' 'Big Outside She' already does!

In the wavestate of beingness, also known as 'being dead' or without a bodyform in physical incarnation as a Dead Alive One'; it is VERY Easy NOT to be an individual. Then the 'group- or family' consciousness of non-separation and 'all embracing love and sense of belonging and integration', becomes an overwhelming experience for the multiversal and omniversal 'Soul'.
For such a consciousness energy to attempt to become separate from this 'familiarity of being home' in seeking to experience the separation from this 'heavenly haven of home', becomes even more difficult as the contra indication encountered by the physically incarnated 'Soul'.

The Alive Dead Ones have physical geometrized forms known as bodies or dragon morphs, which 'collapse' their 'particular body functions' upon the death of the physical vessel in the release or unfolding of the 'waved soul' and so transforming the nature of the 'total soul' from its 'bodied soul' self-state into its 'waved soul' self-state.
It has proven rather difficult for the 'bodied souls' to harmonize their 'self treasured' individualities with the their 'greater body selfhoods' and as so treasured and well understood in the 'waved soul' homage of the Cosmic Familialities. It so becomes very easy to individualise because of the body separations in the incarnated part of the soul's existence and it much harder to experience the collectivities of its 'collapsed natural part'. Many incarnated souls do remember their natural wavestates however and often experience environmental difficulties and encumberances to express their truth and remembrances regarding their Cosmic families they are often deeply aware of throughout their experiences as an incarnated 'bodied soul' or dragon morph.
The incarnated 'Souls' upon conception in a womb of a likewise incarnated Mother 'Collapse their wavefunction' into the geometrical biophysical individuality of a 'baby' to be born after a specified gestational period.
The separation of the previously Dead Alive 'Soul' from its 'Harbour of Omniversal Love and Family' so occurs at the point event of conception when the collapsed particle state of home unfolds in tandem with the collapse of the Soul's wavefunction.
The life then lived and from conception to birth to death then becomes a journey of experience to 'make sense' of this life of (non)separations within spaces and within times.
The purpose of any life then becomes to realise or find the purpose of that living existence and a life experience, which could culminate in a climaxing event of manifesting this purpose of the duality or split beingness of being a collapsed individual in the wavestate mirrored in being a collapsed cosmic family in the individuation or particle state.
The Shadow or parallel Cosmic Self then becomes self-relative in the bifurcation of the Descartian Mind-Body divide; remains however unified or 'quantum entangled' in the omniscience of the Cosmic Consciousness of the Soul, the latter being characterised and defined in 'Cosmic Memory' and advanced multi-dimensional quantum mechanics, based on the holofractalization of elementary timespace units or 'consciousness building blocks' also definable as 'wormholes.

The cosmic purpose and agenda for any Soul is to self-realise its own duality in space and time and to self-unify as a monadic dyad or 'Two in Oneness' thus 'overcoming' the time-space limitations of the individuated dragon morphology or incarnated biophysical bodyform.
The crucial consideration of achieving this cosmic graduation or 'ascension' then becomes the two underpinning contexts of the Cosmic ID.

In the wavestate of the 'Dead Aliveness', the bodyform must be suppressed or collapsed and so the individuation is 'sacrificed' for the purpose of the Soul experiencing its natural unification of the non separability and 'Oneness'.
In the incarnated bodystate of the 'Living Deadness', the waveform must be 'sacrificed', so the Soul can experience its ability to separate from the 'peaceful bliss of home' in its own cosmic complementarity.

The dilemma of the Cosmic Soul resides at the core of this dichotomy of being able to exist in two states but only one state AT A TIME in any defined history requiring the plenum or context of space and time.

To be a 'waved soul' allows the self-realisation that there is 'No Separation'; but this demands the relinquishment of a space- and time defined individuality, requiring separation under the auspices of those parameters. But having 'Lived a Life or Lives' as a dragon morph; the 'waved soul' REMEMBERS its own duality and manyness and is cosmically induced to find its own completion in re-incarnating as a biophysical bodyform.
The 'waved soul' so changes its state of beingness from being UNIFIED IN SEPARATION from ITSELF, due to the two modes it can experience itself in.

The two modes of being SEPARATED and being UNIFIED can however become blended or combined, solving the Cosmic Soul's 'Riddle of existence' or its 'Waved soul versus ID soul' quantum paradox.

To be 'Separated WITHIN a Unity or Oneness' is NOT the same as being 'Unified WITHIN a Separation'. And it is this intricate distinction of itself any Soul desiring its self-harmonisation, must aspire to.

Separation within Unity implies FREEDOM within some Encompassment or 'Cosmic Envelope'. The simplest such 'box or overbody' or 'greater body' or 'grander dragon morph' is a physicalized Universe of whatever extent or scale, as long as it has a boundary for the space and time to be contained within. This boundary then becomes the MIRROR of the SOUL for the purpose of Self-Reflection or the 'Sabbath' and in the form of whatever environment the Soul encounters in its experience of eternally being ALIVE within a background of space and time.
The 'total soul' can ALWAYS Self-reflect in both of its states of beingness; but as a 'waved soul' it resides outside of the inside of the 'Double-Sided Mirror' separating the archetypical spacetime plenum or worlds of a Heaven on the Outside (in ---12D) and of an Earth on the Inside (in 10D---3D). The 'bodied soul' so ALWAYS self-reflects in the Inside Mirror of the 'OmniVersal Encompassment' and the 'waved soul' corollarily ALWAYS self-reflects in the Outside Mirror of the SuperUniversal Envelope.

Unity within Separation implies that the Individual Soul is self-unified as a Oneness without any boundary or 'box' around itself. This 'equality' infers and allows parallel universes and 'many worlds' interacting in any arbitrary manner without any 'Mirrors being set up to allow any kind of 'sabbatical' self-reflection in the self-perception of an incarnated 'bodied soul'. This apparently equal and seemingly highly to be desired 'set-up' represents the 'great cosmic trap' for the soul searching for self-realisation and self-harmonisation, as this 'trap' represents the Chaos of Creation and a 'Nirvanistic' State of Cosmic Beingness BEFORE space and time itself came into existence to provide the 'playground of experience' for all souls.
If a soul insists on 'believing' in the non requirement of cosmic encapsulation or containment of the spaces and the times it is and has and was experiencing in; then this soul will not be able to realise its 'body soul' experience in a life lived and will have to wait to 'SEE ITSELF' from the outside in as a 'waved soul'. This soul then will have to DENY that there exists a MIRROR to self-reflect as a 'bodied soul' looking at itself from the Inside Out. Such a soul will experience its 'Nirvana' as a Curse of 'coming home' to a world where space and time do indeed exist and realising that its last life experience became characterised and defined in the soul's rejection of the physicality it so eagerly sought and embraced as a 'waved soul' now returned as such and without gaining the appreciation available to be honoured and hosted as a 'bodied soul' in its eternal memory vaults holding all of the soul's records of experience and existence.
This soul then will have failed in its incarnational purpose to harmonise its two and equally valid states of beingness and becomingness.

Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin
(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

(27) <Jesus said,> "If you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. If you do not observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath, you will not see the father."

(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

(83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."

(84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"

(89) Jesus said, "Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Do you not realize that he who made the inside is the same one who made the outside?"

This is the false sense of Unity within the Separation and the Realm of the Human Self and Human Egocentricity.

This is the Way of the Devil and his Devil Woman as nonexistent nonincarnate shadows of their embodied selves.

The true Cosmic Self is the Separation within the Unity where the Human Ego becomes divine and the Individuality becomes cocreative and a shard of God's own genius and the beloved form of the Goddess; as well as a true mirror and reflection for the Divine Word, the 'Egocentricity' of Jesus of Nazareth; proclaiming that He and only He is the Way, the Love, the Truth, the Resurrection and the Life.
HeShe becomes the envelope the Encompassment for the entire creation with hisher entwined Mary Magdalene never to be separated again in individuality and so empowered to multiply in the brotherhood and the sisterhood logos defined.

The concept or archetype of the eternal infinite creator becomes BOUNDED in hisher Image as AdamEve able to reflect in EveAdam within to harmonise the Nothingness being the Infinite as the required Oneness: 0=1=8.

There therefore cannot exist a physically defined infinite universe - the metaphysical archetypology eschews such definition as this would then demand a third polarity of separatedness.

Noone, no Buddha, no ascended masters, no Shiva and no Mohammed represent the Way to the 'Father's Heart'; except the 'Only One in Many to be All' understanding and manifesting the Unity in his physical transcension of the Bodyform in the Redemption of the collapsed particle-function within the released wave-function in quantum relativistic mechanistic terms.

So there is a False Reality perception and a True Reality perception - who can discern; the logos induced Dragons can, they can take the heat having shared the Lion's Eucharist, but seeking to multiply?!

Then the 'illuminated ones' on the inside become 'Her - the female Lucifer's or Lucifera's' followers; knowing the 'outside story' but promote the 'inside story' for the purpose to 'sequester' the 'knowing' for themselves within the warring factions, comprised by the 'ignorant ones', namely the 'Learned Ones, who cannot read the book, because it is sealed' and the 'Unlearned Ones, who cannot read the book, because they are not learned'. And it should be said, the above 'illuminated ones' are not the same as the 'echeloners' the pretend 'powers that be' and who follow a rather different 'New World Order' than the 'Lucid Dragons', shining with the Fire of the Twin Logos of the Words of the Cosmic Father and wielding those WORDS as the SWORD of the Cosmic Mother in the 'Prophecy of the Dragons' aka the Book Of Isaiah.

Isaiah 29:10-12
¹⁰ For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
¹¹ And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
¹² And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

Zephaniah 3:9
For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

1.Matthew 10:27
What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

2.Luke 12:3
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

3.1 Samuel 17:47
And all this assembly shall know that the LORD saveth not with sword and spear: for the battle is the LORD's, and he will give you into our hands.

4.Isaiah 11:9
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

5.Isaiah 44:9
They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

6.Isaiah 49:26
And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

7.Isaiah 61:9
And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.

8.Isaiah 66:18
For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.

9.Jeremiah 31:34
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin
(62) Jesus said : "It is to those who are worthy of My mysteries that I tell My mysteries. Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is about to do."

And all of the 'scriptures' must be fulfilled to the last iota, as the One, standing for the 'System of Thought of intrinsic Unity' has said many times.

Allisiam replied:

And the book is within and with our loving, we have opened it. And soon....this one will be fullfilled

Isaiah 49:26
And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Shiloh Za-RaH Scribe from and for the Logos of Love and the Word of God

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Re: The Legacy of Thuban Omni-Science De Alpha Draconis Omega

shiloh on Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:31 am

Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea
THE SUN ENTERS SCORPIO-PHOENIX
62=QUEEN=MADONNA=MAGDALENE=62

[5:57:52 PM-Sunday, October 5th, 2014] Shiloh Za-Rah: I had the weirdest dream
[5:57:59 PM] Sirius 17: so i went to moa and i have been comparing data
[5:58:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Moa copies better than spruz
[5:58:19 PM] Sirius 17: seems to and has the date of post
[5:58:27 PM] Sirius 17: some of the dates say today lol
[5:58:48 PM] Sirius 17: because when you transfered to spruz that is how it said it
[5:59:00 PM] Sirius 17: what did you dream?
[6:00:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Just recall how important today is
[6:00:22 PM Shiloh Za-Rah: Exactly 1260 days from April 24th, Easter Sunday, 2011 to Sunday, October 5th, 2014 in 180 Weeks
[6:00:49 PM] Sirius 17: oh right lol
[6:00:55 PM] Sirius 17: right on Carla's bd
[6:02:12 PM] Sirius 17: well we had spagetti tonight and i got her some games for the x-box to play, other than that i have had a normal day and been transferring these posts
[6:02:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Remember this convo we had?
[6:02:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

[11:26:32 AM-Friday, October 25th, 2013 +11UCT] Shiloh: I did not see her leave
[11:26:51 AM] Shiloh: She must have blocked something
[11:43:47 AM] Shiloh: 10:39 am October 24th my time
[11:44:18 AM] Shiloh: October 23rd - October 25th is the code of the 3 days of darkness
[11:45:37 AM] Shiloh:

Revelation 16:10-21
King James Version (KJV)

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

This is October 23rd, say in an inversion under chaos

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

This is is October 24th, kinda fits and describes absorption of something in contraction

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

[11:47:24 AM] Shiloh: This is today, October 25th as the last day and the formation of a new cosmic ID
[11:48:24 AM] Shiloh: The Armageddon gathering so coincides with her leaving this chat
[12:07:27 PM] Sirius 17: interesting yes
[12:07:42 PM] Sirius 17: i am cooking a curry dish atm hopefully it will be done soon
[12:16:16 PM] Sirius 17: she said nothing to you?
[12:16:21 PM] Sirius 17: before she left
[12:16:29 PM] Shiloh: Nope
[12:16:54 PM] Shiloh: And I had some weird dreams
[12:17:04 PM] Sirius 17: what did you dream?
[12:17:22 PM] Shiloh: I had a new core, sort of
[12:17:34 PM] Shiloh: It was someone very famous lol
[12:17:42 PM] Sirius 17: madonna? lol
[12:17:48 PM] Shiloh: YES
[12:17:53 PM] Sirius 17: god i am good huh
[12:17:59 PM] Shiloh: How tf did you know?
[12:18:08 PM] Shiloh: It was very real
[12:18:09 PM] Sirius 17: cuz i am that good
[12:18:14 PM] Shiloh: I am amazed
[12:18:16 PM] Sirius 17: i know things lol
[12:18:26 PM] Sirius 17: ok weird story for you
[12:18:37 PM] Sirius 17: about a week ago i was looking at her nude pics on google
[12:18:40 PM] Shiloh: So this proves to me that this means something
[12:18:44 PM] Sirius 17: and i saw something there
[12:18:49 PM] Sirius 17: when she was younger you know
[12:18:52 PM] Shiloh: really?
[12:19:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes and it reminded me of what we saw in dd
[12:19:18 PM] Sirius 17: and i sat there and tried to figure out wf it was
[12:19:34 PM] Sirius 17: this was when i posted the madonna stuff remember
[12:19:36 PM] Sirius 17: the video
[12:19:38 PM] Sirius 17: and all that
[12:19:39 PM] Shiloh: No
[12:19:51 PM] Shiloh: But this dream also related to a 'bet'
[12:20:12 PM] Shiloh: Some ticket where the number was 2 and the horses name was Emeth but a female
[12:20:45 PM] Shiloh: It then won the race but became number 4 or 5 and I wondered if I had to protest to the betting company
[12:20:50 PM] Shiloh: This was agfterwards
[12:21:18 PM] Sirius 17: lol you and your horse betting
[12:21:20 PM] Shiloh: But Madonna was with me and like 'started to fall in love' and I did not believe this
[12:21:38 PM] Shiloh: We had one argument, when she asked about my income
[12:21:45 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[12:21:47 PM] Shiloh: I said it is irrelevant
[12:21:55 PM] Sirius 17: and she said?
[12:22:10 PM] Shiloh: But I knew it was her and that she had all the money anyone would ever need
[12:22:28 PM] Shiloh: She accepted my point and changed the subject or whatever
[12:22:34 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm yes i just wonder why she asked is all
[12:22:53 PM] Sirius 17: so what do you think this means?
[12:23:02 PM] Sirius 17: could she be your core Tony?
[12:23:27 PM] Sirius 17: would be a trip if it were lol
[12:23:45 PM] Shiloh: Nono
[12:23:49 PM] Shiloh: BUT
[12:24:00 PM] Shiloh: Madonna is MI of course and my CJ as MM
[12:24:34 PM] Shiloh: The number mixup means like 2 or 11 changes to something else
[12:24:41 PM] Shiloh: It IS the New cosmic ID
[12:26:05 PM] Shiloh: Madonna=62=Magdalene=Queen
[12:26:17 PM] Shiloh: 26 backwards as DOG=GOD
[12:26:40 PM] Shiloh: But actually I dont know the deeper meanings here
[12:27:09 PM] Shiloh: 38=11=Bride and DD's number
[12:27:18 PM] Shiloh: But then 44=Elder=8=62 as well
[12:27:35 PM] Sirius 17: right hmm that is strange
[12:27:49 PM] Shiloh: I dont know and there are still 10 days to go
[12:27:52 PM] Sirius 17: i am checking on curry again
[12:28:29 PM] Shiloh: Now tell me what you feel about Madonna when you felt this
[12:28:45 PM] Shiloh: My intuition is not strong enough
[12:38:31 PM] Sirius 17: i just wished that dd were more like her
[12:38:37 PM] Sirius 17: and that she was your core instead
[12:39:19 PM] Shiloh: Weird
[12:39:31 PM] Sirius 17: more like her in the sense that even though she is the 'material' girl she is no longer ignorant you know...to the world and its BS
[12:39:41 PM] Shiloh: yes
[12:39:56 PM] Shiloh: kabbalah friendly though the nabs way
[12:40:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes but this is the zohar you know
[12:40:23 PM] Shiloh: It is just strange that you would get an impresion over this
[12:40:24 PM] Sirius 17: she carries a copy of it with her always
[12:40:38 PM] Shiloh: It was clearly her
[12:40:45 PM] Sirius 17: and Madonna has catholic upbringing
[12:40:51 PM] Sirius 17: as you might know
[12:40:58 PM] Shiloh: Yes Italiano
[12:41:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[12:41:13 PM] Sirius 17: so yeah this is really strange to me too
[12:41:38 PM] Sirius 17: i was wishing she could be your core and how would it be if madonna was privy to the 'insider' info like us
[12:41:43 PM] Sirius 17: what she would then be like
[12:42:05 PM] Shiloh: Well she is my age plus or minus 1
[12:42:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[12:42:19 PM] Shiloh: I dont know
[12:42:26 PM] Sirius 17: i dont either dear
[12:42:31 PM] Shiloh: What it means actually
[12:42:58 PM] Shiloh: I added this to the chart
[12:43:19 PM] Sirius 17: what?
[12:43:45 PM] Shiloh: Those 3½ days
[12:43:48 PM] Sirius 17: omg i am a good cook lol
[12:43:53 PM] Shiloh: It relates to this you see
[12:44:00 PM] Sirius 17: this curry is the bomb
[12:44:09 PM] Sirius 17: oh i look at it
[12:44:11 PM] Sirius 17: on spruz
[12:45:48 PM] Shiloh:
[6:03:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember
[6:04:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Now look at this code from Rev.12
[6:04:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

Revelation.12.14-17 (KJV)
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[6:05:26 PM] Sirius 17: ok
[6:06:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And you understand that the 3½ times are 1260 days yes?
[6:06:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: From here, the only time in the OT and the bridge between the OT and the NT
[6:06:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes i think so lol
[6:06:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

Daniel 12 - King James Version (KJV)
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

[6:07:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: [6:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

<<< 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

[6:07:34 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is today
[6:07:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I dreamt that Madonna became my cosmic wife
[6:08:11 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Of course it is not the filmstar but the 'woman in rev'
[6:08:24 PM] Sirius 17: oh wow what a dream
[6:08:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So ho weird is that?
[6:08:35 PM] Sirius 17: haha nice
[6:08:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And I knew i loved sharing her with others
[6:09:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is of course the 7+1260+7 = 3½+3½+1260+3½+3½
[6:09:42 PM] Sirius 17: and of course in a deeper meaning, Madonna herself has become a cosmic wife as have all famous and non-famous Eves
[6:10:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes but this basically confirms this last chart
[6:10:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I mean this is amazing
[6:10:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The last week Aries-Pisces ends October 11th remember?
[6:11:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes you have said
[6:11:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And this also is the 'death' of the witnesses
[6:11:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And so directly applies to the testimony keeper of the Logos in some way
[6:12:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I woke up after many interrupted sleeps and somehow knew I had to check when I had the 1st dream
[6:13:16 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So it was October 2013
[6:13:30 PM] Sirius 17: that is interesting yes
[6:13:43 PM] Sirius 17: well my bleeding slowed down quite a bit
[6:13:46 PM] Sirius 17: thankfully
[6:14:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

<<< [11:47:24 AM] Shiloh: This is today, October 25th as the last day and the formation of a new cosmic ID

[6:14:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: New Cosmic ID being constructed see?
[6:15:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: October 25th last year was in the 'nomans' zone
[6:15:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I dont know what this infers for the near future of course, but the 30+45 days could be a new code
[6:16:54 PM] Sirius 17: well it is significant that you dreamed of her twice now
[6:16:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 1290=November 3rd-4th and 1335=December 18th-19th, 2014
[6:17:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes definitely a Logos message
[6:17:22 PM] Sirius 17: MADONNA=62?
[6:17:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes Magdalene=Queen=Madonna=62
[6:18:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But this time we had sex
[6:18:21 PM] Sirius 17: oh even better
[6:18:30 PM] Sirius 17: lucky you
[6:18:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I had trouble keeping it up and finding the entrance strangely enough
[6:18:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No
[6:18:50 PM] Sirius 17: ?
[6:18:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is very unusual
[6:19:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: She was different from last time
[6:19:50 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Much more assured of herself and she was 'like' DD blond hair coloured but brown or black originally
[6:20:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The important thing here is, that this is the 'Ending of the Exile' of the 'Queen from Heaven' of Rev.12
[6:21:16 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: How much this actually means anything personally to us or anyone I am not sure of
[6:22:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes i don't know
[6:22:16 PM] Sirius 17: has dd said anything?
[6:22:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

<<< I had trouble keeping it up and finding the entrance strangely enough. I kept slipping out, as she was so wet and not hard enough - lol

[6:22:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No
[6:22:47 PM] Sirius 17: oh lol
[6:23:17 PM] Sirius 17: sounds yummy though
[6:23:27 PM] Sirius 17: like a really nice dream
[6:23:41 PM] Sirius 17: dd still has me blocked
[6:23:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It was she was like 'my cosmic wife' and she was happy with that
[6:24:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: She even said: We can work on your physical appearance now or such
[6:24:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Healing the bodies perhaps? I dont know
[6:24:38 PM] Sirius 17: oh that is good
[6:24:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes, I think so
[6:25:33 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And look October 25th - 7+7 days = October 11th
[6:25:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: recall the 7+1260+7 to fixate this master timeline
[6:26:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So another 'coincidence'?
[6:26:29 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok yes
[6:27:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: For someone like me, having studied and analysed codes for decades this is amazing. It does not strike you as deeply as me, because of that
[6:28:14 PM] Sirius 17: you know when i was in the hosptial and i was 'flying' the bed, i saw your feet were blue. They had the look of like slow circulation or something.
[6:28:23 PM] Sirius 17: but when i asked you what it meant you laughed
[6:28:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They are excactly that
[6:28:39 PM] Sirius 17: and i knew without you telling me that you are a bluey
[6:29:00 PM] Sirius 17: meaning the blue feet were not sick feet, but bluey feet
[6:29:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But since my outing they have gone hot. They were icecold before that. But perhaps this is the weather warming a bit
[6:29:33 PM] Sirius 17: and i even experienced my own feet going hot and cold, and turning blue
[6:29:39 PM] Sirius 17: parts of my arms did this
[6:29:51 PM] Sirius 17: too
[6:30:08 PM] Sirius 17: i don't remember if i told you about this or not
[6:30:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They are more swollen now and I am getting more cramps and pains during the night; meaning there is a renewed activity in them - circulation wise and 'no pain - no gain!'
[6:30:40 PM] Sirius 17: well you have been more active?
[6:30:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Not much
[6:30:50 PM] Sirius 17: or about the same?
[6:31:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: A little more
[6:31:24 PM] Sirius 17: well this is good
[6:31:46 PM] Sirius 17: if you are feeling like being more active then this means something too
[6:32:00 PM] Sirius 17: and your circulation is improving because of it
all signs things are changing
[6:32:46 PM] Sirius 17: what an awsome dream, really
[6:32:59 PM] Sirius 17: and your right, i am sorry i don't understand the timeline to the depth you do
[6:33:09 PM] Sirius 17: but i do understand the significance
[6:33:21 PM] Sirius 17: you have few dreams like this
[6:33:36 PM] Sirius 17: and the timing is perfect yes
[6:37:37 PM] Sirius 17:

(26) Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brother's eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."

[6:37:44 PM] Sirius 17: this is got 26
[6:38:01 PM] Sirius 17:

(62) Jesus said, "It is to those who are worthy of my mysteries that I tell my mysteries. Do not let your left (hand) know what your right (hand) is doing."

[6:38:04 PM] Sirius 17: and 62
[6:38:48 PM] Sirius 17: but also inverted it is 29
[6:38:53 PM] Sirius 17:

(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

[6:39:01 PM] Sirius 17: so there is your 11
[6:39:16 PM] Sirius 17: and 2
[6:39:36 PM] Sirius 17: [6:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

<<< [12:24:34 PM] Shiloh: The number mixup means like 2 or 11 changes to something else

[12:24:41 PM] Shiloh: It IS the New cosmic ID
[12:26:05 PM] Shiloh: Madonna=62=Magdalene=Queen
[12:26:17 PM] Shiloh: 26 backwards as DOG=GOD
[12:26:40 PM] Shiloh: But actually I dont know the deeper meanings here
[12:27:09 PM] Shiloh: 38=11=Bride and DD's number
[12:27:18 PM] Shiloh: But then 44=Elder=8=62 as well
[12:27:35 PM] Sirius 17: right hmm that is strange
[6:40:31 PM] Sirius 17:

(92) Jesus said, "Seek and you will find. Yet, what you asked me about in former times and which I did not tell you then, now I do desire to tell, but you do not inquire after it."

(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

Genesis 2 - King James Version (KJV)
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

[6:44:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Now also remember that at just this time Rok and Xeia were at Cancun
[6:44:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes true
[6:44:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I am editing a reply post
[6:45:13 PM] Sirius 17: oh one of mine?
[6:55:01 PM] Sirius 17: yeah Xeia and Susan still have me unfriended on fb
[7:04:42 PM] Sirius 17: also remember i moved up here Oct 5th 2011
[7:05:12 PM] Sirius 17: Carla stayed in Wendover the rest of the school year
[7:05:28 PM] Sirius 17: but we did arrive in Seattle on her birthday, i remember
[7:08:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes 2011 was part of the 3½ years
Sirius 17

Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea
THE SUN ENTERS SCORPIO

Tuesday, October 22nd at 11:10 pm PDT
Wednesday, October 23rd at 6:10 am UT
Posted Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Overnight, here in Pacific time, the Sun shifted signs, leaving the harmony-loving, cardinal air sign of Libra for Scorpio's deep fixed water. Our central star will be traveling through this sign of intense emotion until November 21st, and will join Saturn, Mercury, and the North Node of the Moon, all traversing this sign of transformative power.
This year's Scorpio season will require careful navigation through a Mercury retrograde cycle in this Pluto-ruled sign, another exact Uranus-Pluto square alignment which falls precisely Scorpio's own solar festival, Samhain or All Hallows, and two days before a New Moon and solar eclipse in Scorpio. Samhain (pronounced sow-in), which in turn falls just two days before a New Moon and solar eclipse. Samhain marks the midpoint between the autumn equinox and the winter solstice here in the Northern Hemisphere and is one of four "cross-quarter" days, along with Beltane, Lughnassa and Imbolc.

Between Scylla and Charybdis

With so many compelling astrological events happening concurrently over this next solar month, we may find ourselves confronted with difficult dilemmas, choosing between Scylla and Charybdis — in other words, stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea.
Scylla and Charybdis were mythical sea monsters described in Homer's epic poem The Odyssey who plagued sailors in the Strait of Messina, between Sicily and the Italian mainland.

On the Italian side was Scylla, a treacherous rocky shoal (described metaphorically as a six-headed sea monster), while off the Sicilian coast lurked Charybdis that caused the waters to swirl and seethe into a deadly whirlpool. Together they formed an inescapable gauntlet causing sailors to choose between a rock and a hard place. As Homer described it, the hero Odysseus had to choose between the two while passing through the strait during his famous extended adventure on the Mediterranean. Odysseus opted to pass closer to Scylla and risk losing some of his crew rather than imperil his entire ship in Charybdis' treacherous whirlpool. The painting shown here by the 18th century Swiss painter Johann Heinrich Füssli depicts Odysseus facing this watery dilemma.
So here we navigating through our own "Strait of Messina" in which several challenging events will try to wrap their tentacles around us simultaneously, and all happening during this dark, Pluto-ruled Scorpio season. It's a good time to examine what Scorpio represents.

Pluto-Ruled Scorpio: Mistress of the Shadowy Depths

Scorpio symbolizes the process of death and rebirth, rules the time of year, here in the Northern Hemisphere, when the wheel is turning toward the darkest days of winter.

The leaves are falling, the days are shorter, and the nights are long. It is a time for rest, winter's long slow preparation for a new growing season come spring. All around us are the undeniable signs that life is beating a fast retreat. Hades has burst forth from the Underworld, standing strong in his dark chariot with his smoldering good looks. He's found his love, Persephone, and they are off to their winter timeshare. Mother Demeter will have to wait until spring to see her daughter again.

Contrary to the way in which this myth is told, I don't see Persephone as a "kidnap victim" — and reading the myth this way I think muddles the deeper meaning of her story. Rather, I suspect Persephone went willingly, and perhaps the truth of this old tale was lost in translation long ago. The time was ripe for Persephone to shed her old life; and it was her mother, the Goddess Demeter, who couldn't let go, and suffered for it, not Persephone. Persephone's story may be a distorted fragment of an older myth, one of a dark female agricultural figure of death and rebirth. Persephone has to sacrifice her protected life with mother because she has outgrown it. It's time to move on. She releases her past and steps into the unknown future. And for her courage, Persephone is transformed from maid into the Queen of Darkness, co-ruler of the Underworld, certainly not a victim, slave or mere wife.

This is an important distinction because Persephone is such a potent Scorpionic symbol of regenerative power. The painting shown above, by the French artist Charles-Joseph Natoire, depicts Persephone as the empowered, enthroned Queen of the Underworld sitting quite contentedly next to Hades as his equal. She is wise, powerful, and in the painting is giving Psyche l'elixir de beauté. Psyche had been sent by a jealous Venus to the Underworld on what Venus had hoped would be a "wild goose chase" that would end in Psyche's death. But that's another story....

According to the Roman poet Ovid, in his Metamorphoses, it was the nymph Arethusa who first reported to Demeter that Persephone was in the Underworld. Until then, she had been searching the world without pause for her missing daughter. Spring failed to arrive each year and famine had spread throughout the world. Ovid wrote that while traveling in her stream below the earth, Arethusa saw Persephone sitting on her throne as the queen of Hades. On hearing this, Demeter immediately got in her chariot and flew to Mt. Olympus to demand that Zeus return her daughter:
"... That she has been stolen, I will bear, if only he will bring her back; for your daughter does not deserve to have a robber for a husband."

To which Zeus replied:
"... If only we are willing to give right names to things, this is no harm that has been done, but only love ... But if you so greatly desire to separate them, Persephone shall return to heaven, but on one condition only: if in the lower-world no food has as yet touched her lips. For so have the Moerae decreed."

But it was too late, for Persephone had already eaten those pomegranate seeds, and because of this she had to stay in the Underworld. Yet Hades generously relinquished Persephone for part of the year — even when he did not have to — for as the Fates decreed, she was stuck there forever. In the Homer's Hymn to Demeter, there is an interesting passage where Hades speaks to Persephone, and from this we get a pretty good picture that Persephone was no powerless victim, but indeed a revered Queen:
"... And while you are here, you shall rule all that lives and moves and shall have the greatest rights among the deathless gods: those who defraud you and do not appease your power with offerings, reverently performing rites and paying fit gifts, shall be punished for evermore."

The myth of Persephone's abduction and return is allegorical and illuminates her role as the personification of the renewal of life each spring, life that springs from the seeds of the earth and withdraws back again after the autumn harvest with the seeds for next spring. Persephone was a vegetation goddess, and along with her mother were the central figures of the Eleusinian mysteries that predated the Olympian pantheon.

And so the Scorpio cycle symbolizes this same "descent" — the time when we are called to do the same, or rather symbolically the same: to face what is rotting in our lives, what is dead and dying and let it go, release it. The Scorpio cycle works much like a composter with the discarded, stale contents of our lives. Under cover of winter, what we release is transformed into gold: rich black earth for the seeds of spring. It's the necessary counterpart to vernal gestation, this Scorpionic creation of a fertile ground that supports new life. Persephone goes to the Underworld for six months of the year, embracing her darkness, but she reemerges, transformed and renewed as the May Queen, the Goddess of Spring, every year.

Scorpio cycles aren't limited to intense, life-or-death issues though. It can be a time to just simply take out the proverbial trash: deal with the clutter and stale air that has been accumulating in your life. Every gardener knows that in order to harvest more fruit, you have to prune your trees every winter. Releasing can be as simple as no longer returning the phone call of someone who — if you are "Scorpishly" honest about it — detracts rather than contributes to your life. It can mean facing where you play the victim and thus lose your power in certain relationships, and stopping that nonsense once and for all; or owning up to the fact that you are sometimes sneaky and manipulative rather than direct, clear and honest. It can be delivering a long overdue message of love, or telling someone who has hurt you the painful truth. It can even be something fun like gathering up all the drab, unhappy clothes in your closet, along with that chipped mug, and carting it all off to the Goodwill. It can be having the courage to start therapy in order to face some deep wounds from the past that still haunt you.

All you can learn is what your own inward life is and try to stay loyal to that. We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin has to be shed before the new one can come.
— Joseph Campbell

Scorpio is the only sign to have three symbols — scorpion, eagle, and phoenix — a trinity of transformation. The phoenix is the mythical bird of Arabia, lost in the fire, yet arose from the ashes shiny and new, an ancient alchemical symbol of rebirth. The flames are purification, the burning of the dross — which can be an awful ordeal, exactly like burning in the fires of Hell.

What we give up, though, is the cost of our transformation, and what makes it hard is the degree to which you or someone else in your life — like Persephone's mother — is holding on and cannot let go. We sacrifice to make room for greater things, but it requires sometimes a powerful act of courage and a willingness to step into the unknown.
And this, for me, is the meaning and inspiration of Persephone's story and the Scorpio cycle. After all, the planetary co-ruler of Scorpio, along with courageous Mars, is Pluto, God of the Underworld — or Hades as he was called by the Greeks.

The Scorpio archetype closely correlates with the Tarot card, Death, shown here from the Rider-Waite deck. On the card we see Death depicted as a skeleton in armor riding a white horse.

Death has already trampled a king and approaches a child, young woman, and a bishop begging to be spared — but no one is immune to Death no matter how powerful, pious or young. On Death's banner is the five-petaled white rose, which according to occultist Eden Gray is a symbol for the life-force and Mars, Scorpio's traditional ruler. The rose also carries the meaning of purity and heavenly passion: transmutation and spiritual perfection, it is an ancient symbol for spiritual joy. While most of us today equate the rose with love, it carries all of these meanings. The rose is also an emblem of secrecy. This is where the Latin term sub rosa, literally "under the rose," arose. When secret societies met in medieval times, this flower was hung from the ceiling to remind members that what was being discussed was to be held in strict confidence, it was knowledge for initiates only.
The river in the background of the card flows out to the sea, representing the transmuting nature of life: water evaporates into vapor, condenses into clouds, which then rains down as water once more. Matter is never lost, it only changes its form. In turn, Death is the closing of one door so another can open, putting the past behind us to embrace the new day. In the distance on the Eastern horizon, the Sun is rising. Death symbolizes the renewal that comes from release, its larger meaning. An ending yes, but also a new beginning.

Scorpio Keywords: Magnetic, Powerful, Deep, Intense, Penetrating, Obsessive
Famous Scorpios (in no particular order): Pablo Picasso, Joni Mitchell, K. D. Lang, Kurt Vonnegut, Sojourner Truth, Theodore Roosevelt, Aaron Copland, Anne Tyler, Albert Camus, Carl Sagan, Charles de Gaulle, Charles Manson, Claude Monet, Condoleezza Rice, Bill Gates, Bjork, Dick Clark, Dylan Thomas, Ezra Pound, Ethan Hawke, Evelyn Waugh, Gerard Butler, Grace Kelly, Goldie Hawn, Howard Dean, Indira Ghandi, John Adams, John Cleese, John Keats, Johnny Mercer, Jonas Salk, Leonardo Dicaprio, Margaret Atwood, Marianne Moore, Marie Curie, Martin Scorsese, Marlene Dietrich, Owen Wilson, Peter Jackson, Richard Burton, Roy Rogers, Sally Field, Scarlett Johansson, Ted Turner, Vivien Leigh, Will Rogers
Gemstones: Topaz, Malachite, Apache Tear, Boji Stone, Emerald, Garnet, Herkimer Diamond, Obsidian, Rhodochrosite, Ruby
Colors: dark red and black

The Serenity Prayer is, I think, particularly helpful at this Scorpio time of year, especially this year with the North Node of the Moon, Saturn, Mercury and now the Sun all traveling through this sign of deep transformative power.

But letting go of what no longer works in our lives and what we have outgrown can be a supremely difficult and scary task. Fixed, Pluto- and Mars-ruled Scorpio does not give up until it has exhausted its search for the deeper truth and sometimes that search can border on unhealthy obsession. Keeping a detached perspective can be difficult, especially now, and this simple prayer is a helpful reminder of the importance of knowing that place "where angels fear to tread" and those times in life when it is a much wiser to let it go, and release it to a higher power:

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. The courage to change the things I can. And the wisdom to know the difference.

http://www.bluemoon.bz/astrology/sun-ingress/scorpio/

Shiloh, October 24th, 2013

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