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Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

TRANCOSO Yesterday at 5:00 pm
Totally off-topic but quite amazing...

Go to google Earth or google maps and type the lat/long
29.9792458 N, 31 8' 3.11" E

This takes you to the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid

299,792,458 m/sec is speed of Light.
(29.9792458 N)

Coincidence?

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Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

Carol Yesterday at 7:22 pm

Again off-topic. Sorry.

Other then Shiloh.."Sirius 17: i am convinced in all these years we have been posting there she hasn't really read much of anything we said", this statement is correct. Your threads are for your group to share your information among yourselves. As for the reams of personal dialogue between the group members - that seems personal (something private between yourselves) and isn't something I'm interested in as eavesdropping doesn't interest me. I check in to see what Tony posts as I always learn something new and then it sometimes takes weeks to understand for the simple reason that his knowledge base in those scientific areas are way beyond mine own limited sphere of hard core data - so I struggle to understand the concept behind the data where it shows up as pictures in my minds eye. Since, the appeal to understand it is there, I continue with my feeble attempts because it opens up new areas of understanding at other "intellectual" levels. It's a brain game. In addition, what I do notice is the gestalt that occurs once the new info is introduced - perspective broadens along with understanding. Subsequently, I'm both appreciative and grateful for the opportunity to expand various scientific understandings from what Shiloh has to share.



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Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

mudra Yesterday at 9:32 pm
shiloh wrote:

(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

(N)AME AME(N)





From infinity to the creation of Matter/energy/space/time and from Matter/energy/space/time back to infinity.
From this fine interplay between the infinite and the finite Consciousness moves on a scale.
Know thyself, learn the music so well that the infinity of Spirit no longer holds any mystery to you.
That is the wonder of wonders to me.



Love Always
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Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

B.B.Baghor Yesterday at 10:55 pm
shiloh wrote:

(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

I wholeheartedly agree with mudra's view on this text, shared by you shilo. If Jesus was amazed he probably didn't comment
in a judgmental way, for that's not part of his world, as I've experienced it so far. If I should interpretate that word "poverty" as
a negative state, as a situation not supposed to exist, the context in which I read this text is derived from my human point of view.
When that word "poverty" is taken in a different way, for example as an objective observation of conditions on planet Earth in the
year zero, a human view on life in separation, in fear of "the other" which is "the self" in essence, there is a lack, a missing link,
a lost connection. To me, that's what is meant with "poverty", by Jesus.

Another example of how interpretation creates context, is this: To me, the true wonder in spirit coming into being because of the body,
isn't for the body's capacity to achieve that, but for the spirit's capacity in love-sync with the body as the director of the play
In that sense, all senses awake, sexual pleasure isn't the goal, but the means to use that life force energy in ecstacy, and create something
new. Be it the strengthening of the etheric body, a spiritual creation, practiced by the Essenes, or a baby born from love in truth, growing
up without having to deal with genetic residue and karma of ancestors, due to that freedom. That's the newness in both forms of creation,
see what I mean?

In my view, creations of entities as human sourced, will have to be outgrown and overcome at some point, when there's a will to evolve.
Power and use of life force energy are very old amigos and amigas, on lower dimensional levels unknown to the bridge where the heart
awaits us on the other side. Both parties involved are assured of liveliness, no doubt, behind the zipper. For that being the case, although
tempting, it's no use to get rid of karma or end dichotomy on many levels, by playing the games and rules, created in a much darker past
of power-games and forms of abuse, than ours is, when looking back, 33 years from now. At some point, I can imagine that our bodies and
spirits will grow weary, going through the motions of the past, even repeated in our beds, somehow






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The Law of One on the mind/body/spirit complex

B.B.Baghor Today at 6:15 am
The following pages are related to the subject of "spirit coming into the flesh" and "the flesh created by spirit."
The first part contains an explanation of the mind/body/spirit complex given by Ra. The second part is dealing with questions
on the means by which ET-races enter this planetary realm and what causes them to feel a call or temptation from that realm.
It's maybe off topic to some of you, specially to Carol and EVISNAM. Please tell me if that is so. On the other hand, as I
perceive this, isn't the puzzle to deal with physicality, as a spirit being, tried to be solved by ET-races too, when disclosure
and contact is desired on their side as well? In my view, we're invited to step up and reclaim our true nature, in compassion
with our human 3d antics in our now, by accepting the ET-races presence as a clarifying mirror to our realization of a truth
that sets us free. And possibly we will prove to be as much a mirror to them, putting us all in the same boat




Page 160 of The Law of One Study guide

I. THE MIND/BODY/SPIRIT COMPLEX
RA: The term "mind/body/spirit" should be used to refer to those entities dwelling in 3rd density prior to the veiling process.
The term mind/body/spirit complex" refers to those entities dwelling in 3rd density after the veiling process.

II. THE MIND
RA: The body is the material experienced in space/time or time/space. The mind reflects the in-pourings of the Spirit and up-pourings
of the body complex. It contains feelings and thoughts. Moving further down the tree of mind we see the intuition which is more in tune
with the total being-ness complex. Moving down to the roots of mind we find the progression of consciousness which gradually turns from
the personal to the racial memory, to the cosmic influences, and thus becomes a direct contractor of that shuttle we call the spirit complex.

III. THE SPIRIT
RA: The spirit complex is the channel whereby the in-pourings from all the various universal, planetary and personal in-pourings be
funneled into the roots of consciousness and whereby consciousness can be channeled to the gateway of intelligent infinity.

IV. THE BODY
RA: What is important is the balanced blending of the energy centers in such a way that intelligent energy is able to channel itself
with minimal distortion. The mind/body/spirit complex is not a machine. It is rather what you might call a tone poem.
RA: The body is the creature of the mind and is the instrument of manifestation for the fruits of mind and Spirit.



The complete Law of One book IV is in the attachment. The part below here is going from page 117 to page 129

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 90 June 19, 1982 page 117

Ra: I am Ra. I greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator. We communicate now.


Questioner: Could you first please give me the condition of the instrument? Ra: I am Ra. The physical complex energy deficit is
somewhat increased by continued distortions towards pain. The vital energy levels are as previously stated, having fluctuated slightly
between askings. Questioner: Could you tell me the situation with respect to our fourth and fifth-density companions at this time?
Ra: I am Ra. The fourth-density league of companions accompanies your group. The fifth-density friend, at this space/time
nexus, works within its own density exclusively.


Questioner: By what means do these particular fourth-density entities get from their origin to our position?
Ra: I am Ra. The mechanism of calling has been previously explored. When a distortion which may be negatively connotated is
effected, this calling occurs. In addition, the light of which we have spoken, emanating from attempts to be of service to others in a
fairly clear and lucid sense, is another type of calling in that it represents that which requires balance by temptation. Thirdly, there
have been certain avenues into the mind/body/spirit complexes of this group which have been made available by your fifth-density friend.


Questioner: Actually, the question that I intended was how do they get here? By what means of moving do they get here?
Ra: I am Ra In the mechanism of the calling the movement is as you would expect; that is, the entities are within your planetary
influence and are, having come through the quarantine web, free to answer such calling. The temptations are offered by those negative
entities of what you would call your inner planes. These, shall we say, dark angels have been impressed by the service-to-self path
offered by those which have come through quarantine from days of old and these entities, much like your angelic presences of the
positive nature, are ready to move in thought within the inner planes of this planetary influence working from time/space to space/time.
The mechanism of the fifth-density entity is from density to density and is magical in nature. The fourth density, of itself, is not capable
of building the highway into the energy web. However, it is capable of using that which has been left intact. These entities are, again,
the Orion entities of fourth density.


Questioner: You stated previously that fifth-density entities bear a resemblance to those of us in third density on planet Earth
but fourth density does not. Could you describe the fourth-density entities and tell me why they do not resemble us?
Ra: I am Ra. The description must be bated under the Law of Confusion. The cause for a variety of so-called physical vehicles
is the remaining variety of heritages from second-density physical vehicular forms. The process of what you call physical evolution
continues to hold sway into fourth density. Only when the ways of wisdom have begun to refine the power of what you may loosely
call thought is the form of the physical complex manifestation more nearly under the direction of the consciousness.


Questioner: If the population of this planet presently looks similar to fifth-density entities I was wondering why this is?
If I understand you correctly the process of evolution would normally be that of third density resembling that from which evolved in
second density and refining it in fourth and then again in fifth density, becoming what the population of this looks like in the third density.
It seems to me that this planet is ahead of itself by the way that its mind/body/spirit complex or body complex looks.
What is the reason for this?
Ra: I am Ra. Your query is based upon a misconception. Do you wish us to comment or do you wish to re-question?


Questioner: Please comment on my misconception if that is possible.
Ra: I am Ra. In fifth density the manifestation of the physical complex is more and more under the control of the
conscious mind complex. Therefore, the fifth-density entity may dissolve one manifestation and create another. Consequently,
the choice of a fifth-density entity or complex of entities wishing to communicate with your peoples would be to resemble
your peoples’ physical-complex, chemical, yellow-ray vehicles.


Questioner: I see. Very roughly, if you were to move a third-density entity from some other planet to this planet,
what percentage of all of those within the knowledge of Ra would look enough like entities of Earth so that they would go
unnoticed in a crowd?
Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps five percent.


Questioner: Then there is an extreme variation in the form of the physical vehicle in third density in the universe. I assume that
this is also true of fourth density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is so. We remind you that it is a great theoretical distance between demanding
that the creatures of an infinite creation be unnoticably similar to one’s self and observing those signs which may be called human which
denote the third-density characteristics of self-consciousness, the grouping into pairs, societal groups, and races, and the further
characteristic means of using self-consciousness to refine and search for the meaning of the milieu.


Questioner: Within Ra’s knowledge of the third-density physical forms, what percentage would be similar enough to this planet’s
physical forms that we would assume the entities to be human even though they were a bit different? This would have to be very rough
because of my definition’s being very rough.
Ra: I am Ra. This percentage is still small; perhaps thirteen to fifteen percent due to the capabilities of various second-density life
forms to carry out each necessary function for third-density work. Thusly to be observed would be behavior indicating self-consciousness
and purposeful interaction with a sentient ambiance about the entity rather than those characteristics which familiarly connote to your
peoples the humanity of your third-density form.


Questioner: Now in this line of questioning I am trying to link to the creations of various Logoi and their original use of a system of
archetypes in their creation and I apologize for a lack of efficiency in doing this, but I find this somewhat difficult. For this particular Logos
in the beginning, prior to its creation of the first density, did the archetypical system which it had chosen include the forms that would
evolve in third density or was this related to the archetypical concept at all?
Ra: I am Ra. The choice of form is prior to the formation of the archetypical mind. As the Logos creates Its plan for evolution,
then the chosen form is invested.


Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved on this planet and, if so,
what was it?
Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of
flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you
as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling
process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence
over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an
excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity
would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools.


Questioner: I will guess that the system of archetypes then was devised to further extend these particular principles.
Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The phrasing is faulty. However, it is correct that the images of the archetypical mind are the children of
the third-density physical manifestations of form of the Logos which has created the particular evolutionary opportunity.


Questioner: Now, as I understand it the archetypes are the biases of a very fundamental nature that, under free will, generate
the experiences of each entity. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The archetypical mind is part of that mind which informs all experience. Please recall the definition of the archetypical
mind as the repository of those refinements to the cosmic or all-mind made by this particular Logos and peculiar only to this Logos.
Thus it may be seen as one of the roots of mind, not the deepest but certainly the most informative in some ways. The other root of
mind to be recalled is that racial or planetary mind which also informs the conceptualizations of each entity to some degree.


Questioner: At what point in the evolutionary process does the archetypical mind first have effect upon the entity?
Ra: I am Ra. At the point at which an entity, either by accident or design, reflects an archetype, the archetypical mind resonates.
Thusly random activation of the archetypical resonances begins almost immediately in third-density experience. The disciplined use of this
tool of evolution comes far later in this process.


Questioner: What was the ultimate objective of this Logos in designing the archetypical mind as It did?
Ra: I am Ra. Each Logos desires to create a more eloquent expression of experience of the Creator by the Creator. The archetypical
mind is intended to heighten this ability to express the Creator in patterns more like the fanned peacock’s tail, each facet of the Creator vivid,
upright, and shining with articulated beauty.


Questioner: Is Ra familiar with the archetypical mind of some other Logos that is not the same as the one we experience?
Ra: I am Ra. There are entities of Ra which have served as far Wanderers to those of another Logos. The experience has been one
which staggers the intellectual and intuitive capacities, for each Logos sets up an experiment enough at variance from all others that the
subtleties of the archetypical mind of another Logos are most murky to the resonating mind, body, and spirit complexes of this Logos.


Questioner: There seems to have been created by this Logos, to me anyway, a large percentage of entities whose distortion
was towards warfare. There have been the Maldek and Mars experiences and now Earth. It seems that Venus was the exception to
what we could almost call the rule of warfare. Is this correct and was this envisioned and planned into the construction of the
archetypical mind, possibly not with respect to warfare as we have experienced it but as to the extreme action of polarization in
consciousness?

Ra: I am Ra. It is correct that the Logos designed its experiment to attempt to achieve the greatest possible
opportunities for polarization in third density. It is incorrect that warfare of the types specific to your experiences was planned by the
Logos. This form of expression of hostility is an interesting result which is apparently concomitant with the tool-making ability.
The choice of the Logos to use the life-form with the grasping thumb is the decision to which this type of warfare may be traced.


Questioner: Then did our Logos hope to see generated a positive and negative harvest from each density up to the sixth, starting
with the third, as being the most efficient form of generating experience known to It at the time of Its construction of this system of evolution?
Ra: I am Ra. Yes.


Questioner: Then built into the basis for the archetypes is possibly the mechanism for creating the polarization in consciousness
for service to others and service to self. Is this, in fact, true? Ra: I am Ra. Yes. You will notice the many inborn biases which hint to the
possibility of one path’s being more efficient than the other. This was the design of the Logos. Questioner: Then what you are saying is
that once the path is recognized, either the positive or the negative polarized entity can find hints along his path as to the efficiency of
that path. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. That which you say is correct upon its own merits, but is not a repetition of our statement. Our suggestion was that
within the experiential nexus of each entity within its second-density environment and within the roots of mind there were placed biases
indicating to he watchful eye the more efficient of the two paths. Let us say, for want of a more precise adjective, that this Logos has a
bias towards kindness.


Questioner: Then you say that the more efficient of the two paths was suggested in a subliminal way to second density to be
the service-to-others path. Am I correct?
Ra: I am Ra. We did not state which was the more efficient path. However, you are correct
in your assumption, as you are aware from having examined each path in some detail in previous querying.


Questioner: Could this be the reason for the greater positive harvest? I suspect that it isn’t, but would there be Logoi that have
greater negative percentage harvests because of this type of biasing? Ra: I am Ra. No. There have been Logoi with greater percentages
of negative harvests. However, the biasing mechanisms cannot change the requirements for achieving harvestability either in the positive
or in the negative sense. There are Logoi which have offered a neutral background against which to polarize. This Logos chose not to do
so but instead to allow more of the love and light of the infinite Creator to be both inwardly and outwardly visible and available to the
sensations and conceptualizations of mind/body/spirit complexes undergoing its care in experimenting.


Questioner: Were there any other circumstances, biases, consequences, or plans set up by the Logos other than those we have
discussed for the evolution of Its parts through the densities?
Ra: I am Ra. Yes.


Questioner: What were these?
Ra: I am Ra. One more; that is, the permeability of the densities so that there may be communication from density to density
and from plane to plane or sub-density to sub-density.


Questioner: Then as I see the plan for the evolution by this Logos it was planned to create as vivid an experience as possible
but also one which was somewhat informed with respect to the infinite Creator and able to accelerate the progress as a function of
will because of the permeability of densities. Have I covered accurately the general plan of this Logos with respect to Its evolution?
Ra: I am Ra. Excepting the actions of the unmanifested self and the actions of self with other-self, you have been reasonably thorough.


Questioner: Then, is the major mechanism forming the ways and very essence of the experience that we presently experience
here the archetypical mind and the archetypes?
Ra: I am Ra. These resources are a part of that which you refer to.


Questioner: What I am really asking is what percentage of a part, roughly, are these responsible for?
Ra: I am Ra. We ask once again that you consider that the archetypical mind is a part of the deep mind. There are several
portions to this mind. The mind may serve as a resource. To call the archetypical mind the foundation of experience is to oversimplify
the activities of the mind/body/spirit complex. To work with your query as to percentages is, therefore, enough misleading in any form
of direct answer that we would ask that you re-question.


Questioner: That’s OK. I don’t think that was too good a question anyway. When Ra initially planned for helping the Egyptians
with their evolution, what was the primary concept, and also secondary and tertiary if you can name those, that Ra wished to impart
to the Egyptians? In other words, what was Ra’s training plan or schedule for making the Egyptians aware of what was necessary for
their evolution?
Ra: I am Ra. We came to your peoples to enunciate the Law of One. We wished to impress upon those who wished to learn of
unity that in unity all paradoxes are resolved; all that is broken is healed; all that is forgotten is brought to light. We had no teaching
plan, as you have called it, in that our intention when we walked among your peoples was to manifest that which was requested by
those learn/teachers to which we had come. We are aware that this particular line of querying; that is, the nature and architecture
of the archetypical mind, has caused the questioner to attempt, to its own mind unsuccessfully, to determine the relative importance
of those concepts. We cannot learn/teach for any, nor would we take this opportunity from the questioner. However, we shall comment.
The adept has already worked much, not only within the red, orange, yellow, and green energy centers but also in the opening of the
blue and indigo. Up through this point the archetypes function as the great base or plinth of a built structure or statue keeping the mind
complex viable, level, and available as a resource whenever it may be evoked. There is a point at which the adept takes up its work.
This is the point at which a clear and conscious consideration of the archetypal mind is useful.


Questioner: I have an observation on Archetype Number One made by (name) and I request comment on it by Ra. I will read it,
“The Matrix of the Mind is the conscious mind and is sustained by the power of the spirit as symbolized by the star which flows to it
through the subconscious mind. It contains the will which is signified by the scepter of power in the Magician’s hand. All of creation
is made through the power of the will directed by the conscious mind of the Magician, and the bird in the cage represents the illusion
in which the self seems trapped. The Magician represents maleness or the radiance of being manifested as the creation through which
each entity moves.”
Ra: I am Ra. As this instrument is becoming somewhat weary we shall not begin this considerable discussion. We would request
that this series of observations be repeated at the outset of the next working. We would suggest that each concept be discussed
separately or, if appropriate, a pair of concepts be related one to the other within the concept complex. This is slow work but shall
make the eventual building of the concept complexes more smoothly accomplished. Were we to have answered the observations as
read by you at this space/time, as much space/time would have been given to the untangling of various concepts as to the building
up of what were very thoughtful perceptions. May we ask if there are any brief queries at this time?


Questioner: Is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or to improve the contact?
Ra: I am Ra. It is well that the appliances for the arms were placed upon the instrument. We ask that continued vigilance be
accorded these distortions which are, if anything, more distorted towards disease than at our previous cautionary statement.
All is well, my friends, You are conscientious and faithful in your alignments. We appreciate your fastidiousness. I am Ra. I leave you now,
rejoicing merrily in the love and the light of the one infinite Creator. Go forth, then, rejoicing in the power and in the peace of the one
infinite Creator. Adonai.


The Law of One, Book IV, Session 91 June 26, 1982
Ra: I am Ra. I greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator. We communicate now.


Questioner: Could you first please give me the condition of the instrument?
Ra: I am Ra. It is as previously stated.


Questioner: I have listed the different minds and would like to know if they are applied in this particular aspect: first, we have
the cosmic mind which is, I would think, the same for all sub-Logoi like our sun. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.


Questioner: A sub-Logos such as our sun, then, in creating Its own particular evolutionary experience, refines the cosmic mind or,
shall we say, articulates it by Its own additional bias or biases. Is this the correct observation?
Ra: I am Ra. It is a correct observation with the one exception that concerns the use of the term “addition” which suggests the
concept of that which is more than the all-mind. Instead, the archetypical mind is a refinement of the all-mind in a pattern peculiar to
the sub-Logo’s choosing.


Questioner: Then the very next refinement that occurs as the cosmic mind is refined is what we call the archetypical mind.
Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. Yes.


Questioner: Then this creates, I would assume, the planetary or racial mind. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. No.


Questioner: What is the origin of the planetary or racial mind?
Ra: I am Ra. This racial or planetary mind is, for this Logos, a repository of biases remembered by the mind/body/spirit complexes
which have enjoyed the experience of this planetary influence.


Questioner: Now, some entities on this planet evolved from second density into third and some were transferred from other planets
to recycle in third density here. Did the ones who were transferred here to recycle in third density add to the planetary or racial mind?
Ra: I am Ra. Not only did each race add to the planetary mind but also each race possesses a racial mind. Thus we made this
distinction in discussing this portion of mind. This portion of mind is formed in the series of seemingly non-simultaneous experiences which
are chosen in freedom of will by the mind/body/spirit complexes of the planetary influence. Therefore, although this Akashic, planetary,
or racial mind is indeed a root of mind it may be seen in sharp differentiation from the deeper roots of mind which are not a function of
altering memory, if you will. We must ask your patience at this time. This channel has become somewhat unclear due to the movement
of the cover which touches this instrument. We ask that the opening sentences be repeated and the breath expelled.
(The microphones attached to the cover upon the instrument were pulled slightly as a rug was being placed over a noisy tape recorder.
The Circle of One was walked; breath was expelled two feet above the instrument’s head from her right to her left; and the Circle of One
was walked again as requested.)

Ra: I am Ra. We communicate now.


Questioner: Were we successful in re-establishing clear contact?
Ra: I am Ra. There was the misstep which then needed to be re-repeated. This was done. The communication is once again clear.
We enjoyed the humorous aspects of the necessary repetitions.


Questioner: What occurred when the microphone cords were slightly moved?
Ra: I am Ra. The link between the instrument’s mind/body/spirit complex and its yellow-ray, chemical, physical vehicle was jarred.
This caused some maladjustment of the organ you call the lungs and, if the repair had not been done, would have resulted in a distorted
physical complex condition of this portion of the instrument’s physical vehicle.


Questioner: What kind of distortion?
Ra: I am Ra. The degree of distortion would depend upon the amount of neglect. The ultimate penalty, shall we say, for the disturbing
of the physical vehicle is the death, in this case by what you would call the congestive heart failure. As the support group was prompt there
should be little or no distortion experienced by the instrument.


Questioner: Why does such a very minor effect like the slight movement of the microphone cord result in this situation, not
mechanically or chemically, but philosophically, if you can answer this question?
Ra: I am Ra. We can only answer mechanically as there is no philosophy to the reflexes of physical vehicular function. There
is what you might call the silver cord reflex; that is, when the mind/body/spirit complex dwells without the environs of the physical
shell and the physical shell is disturbed, the physical shell will reflexively call back the absent en-livener; that is, the mind/body/spirit
complex which is connected with what may be metaphysically seen as what some of your philosophers have called the silver cord.
If this is done suddenly the mind/body/spirit complex will attempt entry into the energy web of the physical vehicle without due care
and the effect is as if one were to stretch one of your elastic bands and let it shrink rapidly. The resulting snap would strike hard at
the anchored portion of the elastic band. The process through which you as a group go in recalling this instrument could be likened
unto taking this elastic and gently lessening its degree of tension until it was without perceptible stretch.


Questioner: To get back to what we were talking about, would
the different races of this planet be from different planets in our local vicinity or the planets of nearby Logoi which have evolved
through their second-density experiences, and would they create the large number of different races that we experience on this planet?
Ra: I am Ra. There are correct-nesses to your supposition. However, not all races and sub-races are of various planetary origins.
We suggest that in looking at planetary origins one observes not the pigmentation of the integument but the biases concerning interactions
with other-selves and definitions regarding the nature of the self.


Questioner: How many different planets have supplied the individuals which now inhabit this planet?
Ra: I am Ra. This is perceived by us to be unimportant information, but harmless. There are three major planetary influences upon
your planetary sphere, besides those of your own second-density derivation, and thirteen minor planetary groups in addition to the
above.


Questioner: Thank you. One more question before we start on the specific questions in regard to archetypes. Do all Logoi evolving
after the veil have twenty-two archetypes?
Ra: I am Ra. No.


Questioner: Is it common for Logoi to have twenty-two archetypes or is this relatively unique to our Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. The system of sevens is the most articulated system yet discovered by any experiment by any Logos in our octave.


Questioner: What is the largest number of archetypes, to Ra’s knowledge, used by a Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. The sevens plus The Choice is the greatest number which has been used, by our knowledge, by Logoi. It is the result
of many, many previous experiments in articulation of the one Creator.


Questioner: I assume, then, that twenty-two is the greatest number of archetypes. I also ask is it the minimum number presently
in use by any Logos to Ra’s knowledge?
Ra: I am Ra. The fewest are the two systems of five which are completing the cycles or densities of experience. You must grasp
the idea that the archetypes were not developed at once but step by step, and not in order as you know the order at this space/time
but in various orders. Therefore, the two systems of fives were using two separate ways of viewing the archetypical nature of all experience.
Each, of course, used the Matrix, the Potentiator, and the Significator for this is the harvest with which our creation began. One way or
system of experimentation had added to these the Catalyst and the Experience. Another system if you will, had added Catalyst and
Transformation. In one case the methods whereby experience was processed was further aided but the fruits of experience less aided.
In the second case the opposite may be seen to be the case.


Questioner: Thank you. We have some observations on the archetypes which are as follows. First, the Matrix of the Mind is depicted
in the Egyptian tarot by a male and this we take as creative energy intelligently directed. Will Ra comment on this?
Ra: I am Ra. This is an extremely thoughtful perception seeing as it does the male not specifically as biological male but as a male
principle. You will note that there are very definite sexual biases in the images. They are intended to function both as information as to
which biological entity or energy will attract which archetype and also as a more general view which sees polarity as a key to the arche-
typical mind of third density.


Questioner: The second observation is that we have a wand which has been seen as the power of the will. Will Ra comment?
Ra: I am Ra. The concept of will is indeed pouring forth from each facet of the image of the Matrix of the Mind. The wand as
the will, however, is, shall we say, an astrological derivative of the out-reaching hand forming the, shall we say, magical gesture.
The excellent portion of the image which may be seen distinctly as separate from the concept of the wand is that sphere which
indicates the spiritual nature of the object of the will of one wishing to do magical acts within the manifestation of your density.

Questioner: The hand downward has been seen as seeking from within and not from without and the active dominance over
the material world. Would Ra comment on that?
Ra: I am Ra. Look again, O student. Does the hand reach within? Nay. Without potentiation the conscious mind has no inward-
ness. That hand, O student, reaches towards that which, outside its un-potentiated influence, is locked from it.

Questioner: The square cage represents the material illusion and is an un-magical shape. Can Ra comment on that?
Ra: I am Ra. The square, wherever seen, is the symbol of the third-density illusion and may be seen either as un-magical or,
in the proper configuration, as having been manifested within; that is, the material world given life.


Questioner: The dark area around the square, then, would be the darkness of the subconscious mind. Would Ra comment on that?
Ra: I am Ra. There is no further thing to say to the perceptive student...... "(ending halfway page 129
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Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

Sanicle Yesterday at 12:19 pm

Can we get back to Evisnam and his stories now please?

Please tell us more about your fascinating journey Evisnam ........... whatever you like ........... but more about the Moon Base and/or the Mantids would be cool. As regards the latter, I've never known them to be referred to as AI before.

 

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Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

shiloh Today at 1:16 pm
TRANCOSO wrote:


Totally off-topic but quite amazing...

Go to google Earth or google maps and type the lat/long
29.9792458 N, 31 8' 3.11" E

This takes you to the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid

299,792,458 m/sec is speed of Light.
(29.9792458 N)

Coincidence?

Perimeter of Earth = 40,000 km
Speed of Light = 300,000 km per second
Basic Schumann Frequency in Atmosphere = Wavespeed/Distance Travelled = (300,000 km/s)/40,000 km =7.5 Hz




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(66) Jesus said, "Show me the stone which the builders have rejected. That one is the cornerstone."


(77) Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the all. From me did the all come forth, and unto me did the all extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."

(13) Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like."
Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a righteous angel."
Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."
Thomas said to him, "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like."
Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out."
And he took him and withdrew and told him three things. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"
Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."

(14) Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. When you go into any land and walk about in the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."

(15) Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him. That one is your father."

(16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."

(17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

(18) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be."
Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."

(19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."

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_________________
Shiloh Za-RaH

I Am the Darkness of the Purple Dawn and the Light of the Moon Turquoise!



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The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
I Am One in Many and Many in One!
Exe*=1
GODGOD=DOGDOG=DEMONA=DEVIL=LIVED=FINANCE=PRIDE=EARTH=HEART
GODDOG=DOGGOD=JCCJCJJC=52=26+26=13+13+13+13=5+2=7
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Universal ET Consciousness and the Puzzle of Lot's Wife of Salt​

Should I call YOU a SLUT, would you feel good and comfortable about this or would you feel bad and offended by it? Would you consider it a liberating honour or a imprisoning insult to be labelled as such?
This question is asked by an ET Sentience and is directed towards any old human native and/or resident to planet Gaia Earth. The obtained answer serves the ET Intelligence to consider the evolutionary mental and logistical status and information data base of the old human who has decided to reply to this question.

(105) Jesus said, "He who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."

The name of Lot's wife in Genesis and who turns into a 'Pillar of Salt' is GAIA HAR aka the 'Whore of Babylon' in John's Revelation. In universal semiotics and symmetries, we may rename Lot as LOT RA or LOT RAH.
This archetypology encoded in the scriptures of the 'ancient scrolls' is revisited in Greek mythos and creation cosmogony in a primordial 'race' of the Titans, becoming usurped or replaced by their children - the Greek Gods of Mount Olympus.
One of the first generation 'Creator Creations' of the Titans is the Kraken or 'Sea Monster', who is turned into a 'Statue' or 'Stone' by looking at the Head of a fellow original 'monster' creation, namely the Serpentine Gorgon Medusa.
This event becomes a turning point in the Greek lore in the half God-half human Perseus symbolising the male galaxy 'Milky Way' rescuing and 'marrying' the female galaxy Andromeda in an archetyped and symbolic 'galactic wedding' and cosmic alchemy of a blending and unifying of the hitherto separated sexes.
Perseus is the son of Zeus, fathergod of Mount Olympus and the human Danae, daughter of king Acrisius.
Because an 'Oracle of Apollo' told Acrisius that Danae's son would one day kill him to usurp his kingdom, Acrisius imprisoned Danae in a tower until Zeus visited her to transform her prison into the likeness of the paradisian Elysian fields.

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The biblical destruction of 'Sodom and Gomorrah' then relates the fatherhood of Lot to the motherhood of Har Gaia in the Old Earth finding herself as 'imprisoned' in a cosmic quarantine zone and as a female galaxy separated from her male partner galaxy.
The Old Earth becomes a 'Pillar of SALT=52=DEVIL=LIVED=GOD+DOG=HEART=EARTH' as the 'Heart of the Cosmos' and Mother abode for all lifeforms and civilizations inhabiting the Universe.

A NEW EARTH is born from the symbolic and archetyped 'ashes' of the OLD EARTH, which became encoded in such manner at the creation of the encompassing cosmos, say a 10-13 dimensional Omniverse.

The NEW EARTH then becomes a universal FatherMotherhood in the 'incestuous' offspring of Lot's Daughters assuming the place of their 'quarantined' and STATUESQUE Mother Gaia Har, which has turned to Stone in her Curiosity to observe the 'Ashes' of the Old Creation in a necessary 'cosmic disobedience' towards her Old Creator as the Old Creation (Barbelo+'Perfect One' = ChristChild).

No New Earth could become subject to redefinition, transformation and rebirth; had the Old Earth have remained satisfied, complacent and obedient within her old definition of 'only' being the Cosmic Universal 'Mother of All' without her own maleness and creatorhood made manifest in a natural Universal Bisexuality of two in One in isolation and separation yet becoming One in Two; both separated and together across the defined created cosmos in spaces and in times.


This mirrors the female StarPlanet GAIA HAR in the male galaxy Perseus-Milky Way to the male StarPlanet LOT RAH in the female galaxy Andromeda and in a harmonisation of the sexes in bisexual polarity unification through the original star-planet-system couplings between the male star RAHSOL with a female planet GAIA EARTH and the female star HARLOS=HARLOT-A=HARLOT-1 with a male planet and 'Shadow-Mirror' LOT EARTH.

HAR=27
LOT=47
HARLOT=74

(19=18+1=S)||H=8=H||(S=1+18=19) = RA H AR = GAIA|AHA|AIAG​

The galactic coupling initiates the star system couplings between the male star and the female planet in the male galaxy to the female star and the male planet in the female galaxy in three starry generations of celestial 'heavenly' brides and bridegrooms reflected in the mythos and, symbols and archetypes of the lexicons and almanacs and libraries found in the records of civilizations hosted by the starsystems and as a function of the consciousness cosmic evolution of all lifeforms and inhabitants.

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Genesis 19 - King James Version (KJV)

1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:

13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.

14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:

19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.

22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:

28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.

30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

37 And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.



Matthew 5:12-14 - King James Version (KJV)

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.



Revelation 17 - King James Version (KJV)

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

(16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."

(17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

(18) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be."
Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."

(19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death."




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{The Left Hand/Side}------------{The Central Mirror}------------{The Right Hand/Side}

FATHER OF MOTHER = MOTHER OF FATHER
SCIENCE OF ALPHAOMEGA = ALPHAOMEGA OF SCIENCE
SCIENCE OF WORDS = SWORD OF SCIENCE
STAR OF MOTHER = ALPHAOMEGA OF FATHER
ABBABAAB = BAABABBA
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||WHORE OF BABYLON|| = ||SHILOH OF JEHOVAH||
69+21+71=161....................161=71+21+69
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"HELLO EARTH!?"

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Philae space probe, thought lost, comes to life on comet reviving Rosetta mission

Date
June 15, 2015 - 9:52AM
Frankfurt: A robotic space lander has surprised scientists by waking up and sending a signal to Earth, seven months after straying into the shadows of a comet, where they feared it might be marooned for ever.
The European Space Agency said on Sunday it had received signals from the lander, named Philae, late on Thursday, when it began communicating with the team on the ground for the first time since it went into emergency hibernation after a botched landing on the comet in November.


An artist's impression shows Philae on the surface of comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. Photo: European Space Agency

Scientists believe the space probe is receiving more sunlight as the comet speeds closer to the sun, enabling its solar panels to produce the power needed to send data.
"There's great excitement about it being back," ESA senior science adviser Mark McCaughrean said. "But we have to make sure it's not the last croak of a dying cowboy."
In the shadows, Philae's solar panels, which were meant to power the probe after its batteries ran out several days after landing, received far less than the expected six to seven hours of sunshine a day. It went into hibernation on November 15.

A parting shot of the Philae lander after separation in 2014. Photo: AFP

After reawakening, Philae "spoke" for 85 seconds with its team on the ground via its mother ship, Rosetta, which is orbiting the comet at a distance of about 6.5 kilometres. Analysis of the detailed data suggests the lander had been awake earlier, but unable to make contact, ESA said.
"It's very fascinating and we're all very happy to have received this signal," project manager Stephan Ulamec said. "The lander seems to be perfectly healthy."
Philae's official Twitter account also came back to life on Sunday, tweeting: "Hello Earth! Can you hear me?"
Scientists hope samples drilled from the roughly 3km-by-5km comet by Philae will unlock details about how the planets – and possibly even life – evolved. The rock and ice that make up comets preserve ancient organic molecules like a time capsule.
The lander was released from Rosetta in November after a 6.4 billion kilometre journey that took more than 10 years – a mission that cost close to €1.4 billion ($2 billion).
But harpoons to anchor Philae to the surface failed to deploy and it bounced twice before floating to rest two hours later. Scientists scoured the surface of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko for months in the hope the lander would revive.
The mood at ESA shot from despondency to "unalloyed joy" when the first signal arrived, triggering a flurry of midnight emails and emergency meetings among scientists keen to see what Philae would reveal, Mr McCaughrean said.
The challenge now is to assess the state of the lander itself, with scientists waiting for the next contact. There are still more than 8000 data packets in Philae's mass memory that would provide information on what happened in the past few days, ESA said.
Comets date back to the formation of the solar system about 4.6 billion years ago. Some scientists suspect comets delivered water to Earth when they collided with the planet aeons ago.
"Comets are treasure chests of material from the birth of the solar system," Mr McCaughrean said.
Scientists must now race to extract as much data from the comet as possible before its orbit takes it back away from the sun in several months' time and towards the outer reaches of the solar system.
At that point, Rosetta will have burnt most of its fuel. Unable to manoeuvre it, scientists are likely to let the spacecraft spiral slowly towards the comet's surface, making an increasingly detailed analysis from above until it comes to rest and loses contact with Earth.

Reuters
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sc...reviving-rosetta-mission-20150614-ghnus4.html

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[12:43:26 PM-Monday, June 15th, 2015/+10UCT]
[12:46:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And yes the timeline of the 70 years seems to be really the topical issue
[12:46:14 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Recall the 70x7?
Well those 70 'weeks as sevens' of Daniel in the OT are of course 70 cycles aka years as well
So the 62 year cutoff then should define the last 8 years as 1+7 see?
So the start was November 29th, 1947 to May 14th, 1948. Now add the 62 years to that for November 29th, 2009 to May 14th, 2010
Does this ring a bell?
Thuban started with many joining around Xmas 2009 the Old PA remember? So in cosmic terms this was a 'cutoff' of the Logos from the cosmic 'potential timeframes' into their defining structures
We got banned April 2010. So fits perfectly
This means the last 8 years then are also the 1 year to the banning from Camelot April 2011
The 1 year 2010 to 2011 then is the bridging year with the last 7 then halved from 2011 to 2018 in 2014
Then ALL those scripture codes and timelines fulfil in that halving 2011-2014-2015-2018
The details are on all them charts but the middle mirror period is 135+15=150=5x30 days as the 5 months
Now if you dont count those 5 months in the middle of the halving but put them at the end of the entire timezone you end the scripture codes on August 14th-15th, 2018
Ergo the 'Assumption of the cosmic mother of all' again
You see the codes 1260 and 1290 and 1335 and 2300 and 370 (Noah) are all both continuous and halved. 1335+1335=2670=2300+370 of course
With 1260+1260=2520 and 2520+150=2670 again to nail the codes in this timezone reference
Iow the halving 150 days are the flood of Noah but in the spread over the final 7 years as 2520 '360-day' years
All the details we have shared many times
Now the crucial bridging timezone are from the 1260 days as 3½ years on the left as the past mirroring the 1260 on the right as the future
1260+75=1335 left and 1335 right is 135 days from 1335 left. Those dates are fixed!
1260 left is October 4th-5th, 2014 and 1290 left is November 3rd-4th, 2014 and 1335 left is December 18th, 2014
Then February 16th to March 3rd, 2015 defines the 150 days in the middle as the 'Hour' of the 15 days adding to 135 to make those 150
1335 right then becomes May 2nd-3rd, 2015 as the image of the December 18th, 2014 in a 'End of Time' in the 'blessings of the prophecy codes'
1290 right is June 16th, 2015 and so tomorrow UCT - VERY POTENT
This images the 3½ years from Easter 2011 to Xmas 2014
As the 'Desolation Abomination' of Daniel and as part of the 2300 etc
30 days later July 16th, 2015 begins the imaged 3½ years now on the right
As said you can define the 370 days either ending on December 27th, 2018 counting the 135 day bridge or you can end them on August 14th, 2018
In terms of Thuban agencies, the 1260 days beginning on Juy 16th, 2015 complete this agency however in sorts
So after 'sharing' those details there might be little left to share with the Od World & its inhabitants as the scripture 'prophecies' are and become fulfilled in the Logos image as the times on the right side of the Mirror of the Endtimes

[1:19:52 PM] Sirius 17: Yes sorry we were visiting with Dorothy and her husband Neth, we had dinner with them.
I found two 4 leaf clovers in her yard today like 30 seconds apart lol and i was going to give her both of them but she insisted i take one. I also had a very strange dream.
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[1:21:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hmm yes good for you to make contact. Is James talking to them?
[1:22:20 PM] Sirius 17: I was in Wendover and my mother had a house there and this tornado came up and took half the house away, most of the roof. We were all standing outside and had no time to get shelter it zipped around us and before we knew it the roof was gone
Yeah we have been visiting with them for the past 4 hours

[1:22:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: half the house see the connect? Half the timeline above?
[1:23:25 PM] Sirius 17: well then more tornadoes came up and she had this neighbor who had this brick house with a basement and we barely made it inside this basement thing before another one came. Wendover was being hit by all these tornados
[1:24:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes and you will be there right at the changeover from the 1290 to the last 1260. Midway is 1275 and this is July 1st, 2015
[1:25:52 PM] Sirius 17: hmm interesting
[1:25:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Indeed. As said from July 16th we can effectively retire
[1:26:18 PM] Sirius 17: i have dreamed of tornadoes before but not for a long while. What do they mean?
[1:26:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The 1260 were the times of our 'troubles'. On the left and this is now completed and imaged under the Logos using the past to manifest the future
1260 began Easter 2011 and ended October 4th, 2014
[1:27:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember you saying that
[1:27:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And not just once. The tornadoes simply indicate the 'whirlwind' of Abba and the Logos
The change of the seasons, as per Job and Ecclesiastes and Ezekiel.
[1:28:49 PM] Sirius 17: but why is it distroying my mom's house?
[1:29:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Your mom's house os the start of the 4 gens see? It so symbolises the OW because the NW lineage is made manifest.
[1:29:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes i do now that you explained it again the other day
[1:30:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Esu is the Apha and the Omega in Carla's daughter archetyped. Alpha=Omega=Alpha closing the circle of the dragon as the Ouroboros
[1:30:43 PM] Sirius 17: i could feel the power these tornados had Tony, the back pressure of the air, it was this sucking whinging sound, it was horrible. But i was not super afraid, just in awe mostly at the power they had. It was so real this dream
[1:31:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes the 'fulfilment of the Words as the Sword of the Logos'. I know that this June-July period 2015 is the 'changing of the guard'
[1:32:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: More news about Philo - http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sc...reviving-rosetta-mission-20150614-ghnus4.html
[1:34:27 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/14/world/philae-comet-lander-found/index.html
[1:34:31 PM] Sirius 17: did you see this; lol mindblend
[1:34:50 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Look; 7 months as this bridging timezone I just addressed - 'Hello Earth'?! lol
[1:35:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw this today too and thought it strange timing, lol
[1:35:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Coming 'out from the Shadows' get it?
[1:36:01 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[1:36:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol. We should post this under Raven and perhaps leave it at that: titling it as 'Hello Earth!?'
[1:37:02 PM] Sirius 17: yeah do lol; you know they sent this thing off March 2nd 2004
[1:37:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No 7 months are October-November 2014; excellent merci
[1:39:02 PM] Sirius 17: wait, don't use that one; this is before it made contact and it is the rosetta not philae
[1:39:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes it is ok as the prelude though in 3 years too see as from 2011
[1:40:24 PM] Sirius 17: try this one
[1:40:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is the same agenda. Yes we use both
[1:43:17 PM] Sirius 17: Put this song with it and also something weird happened today as well. James and I went to a yard sale with the kids and this lady had a wooden carved Eagle in the yard and he said how much for the Eagle and she said $75
So i told James it was too high and to make a counter offer; so he offered $60 and she accepted and so we have this giant Eagle carving now in our yard lol
It is 25 years old she said and was carved by a native totem pole carver here in Washington i guess and it is signed; but it is all aged and looks neat
It has a missing eye and one blue orb in the left eye socket
[1:48:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: cool
[1:49:34 PM] Sirius 17: Yeah it is, i will take a pic of it tomorrow in the daylight, as it is too dark now
Neth and Dorothy were sitting out when James and Jarrod brought it back from the ladies house and they couldn't believe it lol
Carla and I had to stay at the ladies house and wait for them to come back because the thing was too big and only fit in the back seat of the car, it took up the entire back seat lol. James got his 5' eagle lol; well it is not quite 5 ft tall, i guess close though
[1:52:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Can you find the Bowie song about ground control?
[1:52:58 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
[1:53:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is another song to go with that
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[4:38:52 PM] Sirius 17: oh i liked excatly lol
[4:39:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: pussycat i know
[4:39:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[4:39:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: ex Cat
[4:39:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Sirius is canine not feline
[4:39:31 PM] Sirius 17: well i noticed the cat in there
[4:39:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Can Can of Paris, France
[4:39:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know but i am a Leo, so i do have the cat part, Lion of Judah ahem
[4:40:14 PM] Sirius 17: there is a cat in me and a dog and a whale an entire ark of ETS - lol
[4:41:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Must be as the NW morph is Noah's ark; just look at the 'Final Thuban' pic
You see the August 15th there of 2018? This is the Logos Rebirth image of the New Covenant
Ending the 370 day Noah Flood archetype code
[4:42:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see it
[4:43:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is what I meant and there is no 135 day gap
But adding 135 to August 14th gives you December 27th, 2018
[4:44:19 PM] Sirius 17: oh interesting yes, NASUS bd
[4:44:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Those are the final 7 years of the 70, so many nabsers youtube about
[4:45:12 PM] Sirius 17: i was thinking about her today, wondering how she is doing
[4:45:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Coinciding with political history of Israel, GOT and Nagasaki etc etc
This is pretty convincing to me. She posted on spruz 3 days ago
[4:45:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes it does seem to fit
[4:45:50 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Not just seem it does! No matter what we or anyone says or constructs or imagines
[4:46:33 PM] Sirius 17: well you and I see it that way for sure yes. The skeptics will be skeptical of course
[4:47:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well many more now link it to those blood moons 2014 and 2015
[4:47:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes but that is not the whole story
[4:47:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But then they worry too much about trumpets and yom kippur etc
No. It cannot be further in the future than 2019 as the 2nd WW of 1945 is a boundary
70 years are a fixed code. Also in 1945+70=2015.
You can add another 3½ the most. Ergo 2018-2019
[4:49:11 PM] Sirius 17: i see
[4:49:37 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes WW2-Dead Sea Scrolls-Nag Hammadi and Atomic weapons
[4:49:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes all in that timeframe
[4:49:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Roswell
[4:49:58 PM] Sirius 17: yeah those too
[4:50:34 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: WW2 begins 7 years approx see before in 1938-1939 and 7=3+1+3
[4:51:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 1939-1942-1945. Then the War changed in 1942 in Russia
With Nazi Germany winning until then then losing from the Petersburg-Leningrad siege
[4:51:38 PM] Sirius 17: yes big shift
[4:53:11 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 7+70=77 from 1938 to 2015
Of course! 80 years are the maximum 'generation' as per psalms; so 1938+80=2018
[4:54:26 PM] Sirius 17: Oh i see, what psalm is that one again?
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[4:58:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 90.10

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[1:53:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: We'll take it from there

For the Human Gardenkeepers!


The Parable of Hans Schatten


There once lived a gardener in a place not known in part but in all. The gardener so could not plant anything somewhere in particular, but could only plant where he himself was as being nowhere and everywhere.

The gardener wished to plant an apple-seed he had found to be part of himself in the place he was and so the gardener thought of himself as not being nowhere anymore, but to be right in the place of the apple seed.

So the apple seed became real and occupied a real space, but caused the gardener to disappear from that real space into an unreal space. The gardener so became the unreal image in unreal space of the real image of the apple seed in the real space.

And so the apple seed was born as real space to occupy, but being surrounded by an unreal space and there where the gardener still followed his dream to see the apple seed grow and blossom into a full apple tree after he had planted it.

For the dream of the gardener was to grow the apple seed into a full apple tree and after reaching maturity, the apple tree would blossom and yield its fruit of apples which carried their own apple seeds within.
Because this was the plan of the gardener as the unreal image of the real image. Should the single apple seed become two apple seeds, then any two apple seeds could image each other and the real images in the real space, would enable the gardener to use the real image of one of the apple seeds to mirror himself in the realness of one of the apple seeds in the gardener's unreality becoming real in the reality.

Then the single seed of the gardener could multiply and the single apple tree could become a forest of apple trees and so on ad infinitum.

But there would always have to be the first single apple seed which the gardener had become in real space as the image of himself in the unreal space. There could not have been two seeds of the one gardener, because two seeds would have meant that the gardener divided itself into two and that was not the plan of the planter.

This initial apple seed would always remain to be the Seed of all Seeds around which the other seeds and apple trees and apple forests could grow, multiply and reproduce.

Then the gardener would find himself in the real space too and leave his exile in the unreal space. The gardener would become reborn as the image of the image and all other apple seeds would similarly become gardeners themselves, as this was the nature of all things and the beginning of it all.

Hans Schatten; for my apple seeded daughter in the unreal space to become real.

Hans Schatten is the German translation for John Shadow

Abraxas
I Am One in Many and I Am Many in One!
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Ezekiel 17:
¹And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
²Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel;
³And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A great eagle with great wings, longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar:
⁴He cropped off the top of his young twigs, and carried it into a land of traffick; he set it in a city of merchants.
⁵He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful field; he placed it by great waters, and set it as a willow tree.
⁶And it grew, and became a spreading vine of low stature, whose branches turned toward him, and the roots thereof were under him: so it became a vine, and brought forth branches, and shot forth sprigs.
⁷There was also another great eagle with great wings and many feathers: and, behold, this vine did bend her roots toward him, and shot forth her branches toward him, that he might water it by the furrows of her plantation.
⁸It was planted in a good soil by great waters, that it might bring forth branches, and that it might bear fruit, that it might be a goodly vine.
⁹Say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Shall it prosper? shall he not pull up the roots thereof, and cut off the fruit thereof, that it wither? it shall wither in all the leaves of her spring, even without great power or many people to pluck it up by the roots thereof.
¹⁰Yea, behold, being planted, shall it prosper? shall it not utterly wither, when the east wind toucheth it? it shall wither in the furrows where it grew.
¹¹Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
¹²Say now to the rebellious house, Know ye not what these things mean? tell them, Behold, the king of Babylon is come to Jerusalem, and hath taken the king thereof, and the princes thereof, and led them with him to Babylon;
¹³And hath taken of the king's seed, and made a covenant with him, and hath taken an oath of him: he hath also taken the mighty of the land:
¹⁴That the kingdom might be base, that it might not lift itself up, but that by keeping of his covenant it might stand.
¹⁵But he rebelled against him in sending his ambassadors into Egypt, that they might give him horses and much people. Shall he prosper? shall he escape that doeth such things? or shall he break the covenant, and be delivered?
¹⁶As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely in the place where the king dwelleth that made him king, whose oath he despised, and whose covenant he brake, even with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die.
¹⁷Neither shall Pharaoh with his mighty army and great company make for him in the war, by casting up mounts, and building forts, to cut off many persons:
¹⁸Seeing he despised the oath by breaking the covenant, when, lo, he had given his hand, and hath done all these things, he shall not escape.
¹⁹Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely mine oath that he hath despised, and my covenant that he hath broken, even it will I recompense upon his own head.
²⁰And I will spread my net upon him, and he shall be taken in my snare, and I will bring him to Babylon, and will plead with him there for his trespass that he hath trespassed against me.
²¹And all his fugitives with all his bands shall fall by the sword, and they that remain shall be scattered toward all winds: and ye shall know that I the LORD have spoken it.
²²Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent:
²³In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it: and it shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar: and under it shall dwell all fowl of every wing; in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell.
²⁴And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.​

Just who or what the 'fowls of heaven' and the 'doves' and the 'vessels of mercy' are; I shall leave for the minds of the imaginations of the participators to discern.

Isaiah.60.8:
Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

Romans.9.23:
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,


[1]Job 35:11
Who teacheth us more than the beasts of the earth, and maketh us wiser than the fowls of heaven?

[2]Psalm 79:2
The dead bodies of thy servants have they given to be meat unto the fowls of the heaven, the flesh of thy saints unto the beasts of the earth.

[3]Psalm 104:12
By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches.

[4]Jeremiah 7:33
And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.

[5]Jeremiah 15:3
And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the LORD: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.

[6]Jeremiah 16:4
They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

[7]Jeremiah 19:7
And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

[8]Jeremiah 34:20
I will even give them into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies shall be for meat unto the fowls of the heaven, and to the beasts of the earth.

[9]Ezekiel 29:5
And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.

[10]Ezekiel 31:6
All the fowls of heaven made their nests in his boughs, and under his branches did all the beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under his shadow dwelt all great nations.

[11]Ezekiel 31:13
Upon his ruin shall all the fowls of the heaven remain, and all the beasts of the field shall be upon his branches:

[12]Ezekiel 32:4
Then will I leave thee upon the land, I will cast thee forth upon the open field, and will cause all the fowls of the heaven to remain upon thee, and I will fill the beasts of the whole earth with thee.

[13]Ezekiel 38:20
So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

[14]Daniel 2:38
And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.

[15]Daniel 4:12
The leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all: the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the boughs thereof, and all flesh was fed of it.

[16]Daniel 4:21
Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:

[17]Hosea 2:18
And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.

[18]Hosea 4:3
Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

[19]Hosea 7:12
When they shall go, I will spread my net upon them; I will bring them down as the fowls of the heaven; I will chastise them, as their congregation hath heard.

[20]Zephaniah
I will consume man and beast; I will consume the fowls of the heaven, and the fishes of the sea, and the stumbling blocks with the wicked: and I will cut off man from off the land, saith the LORD.

[21]Matthew 6:26
Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

[22]Revelation 19:17
And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

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The future might be similar, but different from the above exhibition. A mentality destruction, rather than a physical one.


ABBAof1971BAAB---34=ONE---BAAB2005ofABBA
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Daddy Cool is an Australian rock band formed in Melbourne in 1970 with the original line-up of Wayne Duncan (bass, Vocals), Ross Hannaford (lead guitar, bass, vocals), Ross Wilson (lead vocals, rhythm guitar, harmonica) and Gary Young (drums, vocals) .^[1][2] Their debut single "Eagle Rock" was released in May 1971^[1][3] and stayed at number 1 on the Australian singles chart for ten weeks.^[4][5][6] Their debut July 1971 LP Daddy Who? Daddy Cool also reached number 1 and became the first Australian album to sell more than 100,000 copies.^[1][5][7] Their name comes from the 1957 song "Daddy Cool"^[1] by US rock group The Rays. Daddy Cool included their version on Daddy Who? Daddy Cool.^[8]
Daddy Cool's music featured 1950s Doo-wop style rock cover versions and originals which were mostly written by Wilson.^[1][3][5] On stage they provided a danceable sound which was accessible and fun.^[1] Their second album was Sex, Dope, Rock'n'Roll: Teenage Heaven from January 1972 and reached the Top Ten.^[4] Breaking up in August 1972, Daddy Cool briefly reformed during 1974–1975 before disbanding again, they reformed with the band's original line-up in 2005.^[1][3][5] Their iconic status was confirmed when they were inducted into the Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA) Hall of Fame on 16 August 2006.^[5]

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Shiloh A Place de Thuban ​

 

How Many Angels Can Dance on the Head of a Pin?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

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Jorgelito
- Posted December 12th, 2012

World and Reality
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This is remarkable way of seeing things like seeing a whole redwood tree at one time. This is an image of a coastal redwood stitched together from 84 photographs. It is that reality is not the world but we can fit reality in it . . .

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/redwoods/gatefold-image​

I like the notion that the world is not reality but we can express reality in it. I rather think it fits for everything. The confusion begins when we mistake the metaphor for the real thing, the world for the reality, the person for the soul, the wrapping of the eternal for the eternal. Many things come together.

Do you think there's a limit to how many d's a person can fit in 3d?
The way I'm seeing things -- the posts on all threads are bristling with energy and happy-light! Like the main light bulb of the universe just turned on!!
If this is the beginning, it will be a wondrous time of Renaissance and discovery through which love and beauty move freely. A person can't get too much of that.


What an interesting question Jorgelito. This relates to a most famous discussion exemplified and answered by Thuban some years ago! I am editing this reply to you, but you can see here the blending of the physics with the metaphysics with no wishy washy fantasies of 'Nabs spirituality' required.

"How many angels can dance on the top of a needle?"

Well, there is an answer.
Consider a 'knitting needle' of linear dimension of about 1/4 of a mm.
Using electronmicroscopy and the diffraction patterns of a Krypton laser, one laboratory might analyse a specific sample of such needles to arrive at a mean statistical value for the surface of the needle-tip as say 1/12th of a mm² with an error of 2%.

In omnispace are no errorbars, as there are no measurements required to determine continuuous distribution of measurable quantities.
In omnispace(10-11-12D your first world), all such quantities are quantised in discreet distributions, i.e. there are no partial angels or devils dancing on the needle tips.

The surface area of the needle tip in question is an integral numbercount for a minimum vacuum/vortex-area, defined in quantumcircles (your electron as a circle say) of radius source wavelength λ/2π, inclusive the curvatures of non-Euclidean spaces.

Dividing the surface area of maximum precision measurement by that area quantum (magnified Planck-Area used in Susskind/Bekenstein holography as entropy counter), must so give the 'angel number' as an integral count.

A first approximation is 5 million billion or 5 quadrillion.
A second approximation is 5.235987756 quadrillion or 5.236x10¹⁵.
And a third approximation is 5,235,987,756,123,456.789876..which truncates to 5,235,987,756,123,457 Angels PRECISELY to dance on a maximised/minimised standardised (by the laboratory) needletip.

Every 'angel' thus can also be represented or modelled on a wormhole singularity.

Dear George and Scerir!

Thank you Scerir for your pertinent reference.'Quantum Gravity Treatment for the Angel Density Problem': Anders Sandberg, November 20th, 2000 (New York Times, Nov.11,1997).

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George please note that the Bekenstein Information Bound N<kD(M+Nm)~4.2x10¹⁴ for Diameter D=2R and entropy (Stefan-Boltzmann) constant k=1.4x10²³ for a mass system (m; M)=(Angelmass; Black Hole mass) with 1/kD~3.88x10^-34 kg; R=1 Angstroem and mass M=c².R/2G<Nm
approximates my stated value (N=5.2x10¹⁵) for a 'human' angelmass m=80kg in the Schwarzschild Bound.

The referenced analysis shows, that the decreasing Black Hole Bound intersects the low mass and hyperbolically increasing Bekenstein Information Bound at m_max=1/{4GkM/c² + kD}, slightly below m_critical.



George, I may also point out that (my) prespacetime/prePlanck-epoch boundary condition for dimensionless Nulltime calculates at the same order of magnitude, as the value obtained by the referenced analysis.

SourceWavelength l_Ng-VanDam/R_max=10^-22/1.6x10²⁶=6.3x10^-49=HubbleFrequencyxTimeInstanton.

The Number of 'Angels' can thus be represented by the 'Frequency' or 'Angel-Ticks' in 1/NullTime, (N_max~8.677x10⁴⁹ ~ 1/10^-50.

Hence we find convergence between the Bekenstein quantum gravity/information model and the magnified Planck-Scale approach.

Tony

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Jorgelito - Posted Dec 12th 2012

TonyBlue
At last I know. 5,235,987,756,123,457 angels will fit into the 3d space of the tip of a needle. I was not prepared for such an analytical answer! It's hard to stop laughing! I do like all angels wherever I can find them.



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Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Dec 12th 2012

See the blendings then? Yes you can laugh, but this is meant as a reply to the skeptics and ridiculers of all things 'angelic'.
You know how 'analytical and skeptical' the Thubans are, but not for being skeptical deniers for denials sake, but to bring the 'true spirituality', of which you are well familiar with, to the forefront. This is to try to separate the nonsense from the omni-scientifically or metaphysically possible and 'evolvable'.
I wrote a 'tale of a beeping mushroom race' evolving and being created by you, some time ago; if you like I dig it up and repost it for you.
Like Augustine tried to 'prove' the existence of God, so do the Thubans.
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