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    Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    shiloh on Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:54 pm

    Solar Eclipse (Saros Series 143, number 23)
    3rd November 2013 at 11 Scorpio (Fixed Water)
    by Andrew Smith





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    One of the amazing facts about the our solar system that despite the Sun physical size being 400 times larger than the Moon, the Earth is 400 times as far away from the Sun. This creates the illusion that the Sun and the Moon look like they are the same size to us here on Earth. When the Moon passes either fully or partially in front of the Sun, occulting, or blocking out the light of the Sun, a shadow falls on the Earth as the Moon appears to exactly cover the sun's disc. This shadow is called a solar eclipse.

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    A solar eclipse can happen only at New Moon, when the Sun and the Moon are in conjunction as seen from the Earth, also known as a syzygy. During a total eclipse the disk of the Sun is fully concealed by the Moon. In partial and annular eclipses only part of the Sun is covered. The reason why we do not have a total solar eclipse every single month at the New Moon is because the Moon’s orbit is neither a perfect circular orbit nor in the same orbital plane as the Earth. The Moon's orbit is tilted at more than 5 degrees to Earth's orbit (called the ecliptic) around the Sun, so its shadow at most New Moons usually misses the Earth. For an eclipse to occur, the Moon’s orbit must cross the Earth’s orbit, at a point called the Nodes (figure 3). Whilst this can happen between two and five times a year, there are, however, never more than two potential total eclipses in any given solar year (figure 4).

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    Total solar eclipses are rare at any particular location because the totality exists only along a narrow path on the Earth's surface traced by the Moon's shadow. This is because the Moon's orbit is elliptical often taking the Moon far enough away from the Earth that its’ apparent size is not large enough to totally block out the Sun. This can either result in an annular eclipse or a partial eclipse, named so because the Sun is only partially occulted. The eclipse on the 3rd November 2013 will be a TOTAL ANNULAR eclipse, so called because the Sun appears as a very bright ring, or annulus, surrounding the dark disk of the Moon. If you live in within the band of the Northern Atlantic Ocean, between 4 degree North and 30 degree North, the total eclipse will be visible from the northern Atlantic Ocean (east of Florida) to Africa (Gabon, Republic of Congo, Uganda), with the maximum of 1 minutes 39 seconds visible from the Atlantic Ocean south of the Ivory Coast and Ghana. You will not ‘see’ the eclipse in Ireland, but will see a partial eclipse from Spain, Portugal and Malta. For the rest of us, we will ‘feel’ it but not see it!

    EventTime GMT
    First location to see partial eclipse begin3 Nov, 10:05
    First location to see full eclipse begin3 Nov, 11:06
    Maximun eclipse3 Nov, 12:49
    Last location to see full eclipse end3 Nov, 14:28
    Last location to see partial eclipse end3 Nov, 15:28

    See figure 5. The eclipse path will be visible in the areas that are shaded red. The lighter the red shading, the less the Sun will appear to be covered. The dark strip in the centre indicates the best locations for viewing the eclipse. Here the moon will appear in the centre of the sun's disk.

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    What does an Eclipse Mean?

    But let us move away from the physical explanation for this stellar-lunar phenomenon as this is not astrology. Astrology is the search for meaning within cosmos, not the understanding of the physics of the cosmos!

    In our present times eclipses are wondrous astronomical events, captivating the hearts and imaginations of astronomers, photographers and everyday folk’s alike. However, if you scan across websites and blogs that seek to interpret the human impact of an eclipse, you get a different picture. It is also one of doom, fear and negativity. Okay, so there are more earthquakes and earth tremors recorded around the time of an eclipse (particularly lunar eclipses) and those events can be very impactful on the communities that experience the Earth shaking. And yes there are other significant physical changes on the earth during an eclipse such as crescent shadows being cast from the light filtering through leaves on trees; plant sap rising significantly; and local temperatures can drop up to 20 degrees or more near a total eclipse of the Sun. But the mistake of correlating physical with psycho-spiritual has resulted in turbulence through which eclipses are interpreted, not lest if you consider the prevailing consciousness within whom those medieval philosophers were writing their predictions.

    I believe this stems from the intentional suppression of wisdom during the violent medieval evangelical Christian period in Europe, when any information that prompted self-knowledge was vigorously destroyed. Without the knowledge of our interconnectedness, our dream-like existence on the earth realm, our understanding of the cycles of nature, it is perfectly understandable to feel the End is Nigh, or the God is angry, when the sky inexplicably blackening, the birds stopped singing and the stars could be viewed during the day. It is easy to see how the Church could interpret the darkening of the day as a time when there is a weakening of human nature, an increase of avarice and stupidity and a proliferation of both good and bad demons over the face of the Earth. Indeed, the ancient Chinese believed that solar eclipses occur when a celestial dragon devours the Sun, as the term for eclipse was "chih" which also means "to eat". That coupled with the higher concentration of natural earth phenomena has added fuel to an un-necessary artificial fire.

    The projection of patriarchal moral values onto a feminine approach to life (which astrology was part of) has left a deep impact on those that seek to interpret meaning from celestial phenomena. Those cultures that did not base themselves on hierarchical, patriarchal, fear and control based ideologies saw an eclipse as a time wherein a portal was opened allowing them to more freely pass between the multitudes of realms that exist within consciousness. It is a time when we were able to talk directly and with clarity to a higher power since the eclipse marked an intensification of the unification of the Lights of the Earth. So the symbolic power that lies behind an eclipse lies with the notion that a passageway leading to the gOd realm is opened and we have a more immediate ability to communicate with the Source than usual.

    The process of stepping away from the busyness of life and to take time to reflect and start afresh is given a greater emphasis at the time of a solar eclipse since the radiance of our Source energy is obscured and the focus is upon any unresolved needs that are given a portal of light through which to escape from their imprisonment within the dark of your unconscious, resurfacing so as to be released and better understood in the light of your current awareness and consciousness.

    A Family of Portals

    All eclipses are members of families, each with their own family constellations and dynamics. There can be up to 70 members to each family (or cycle), each connection to the parent being established over 12 to 15 centuries occurring at intervals every 18 years. The forth coming eclipse is member 23 from a family of 72 eclipses within the Saros Series number 143, which began on the 7th March 1617 and ending on the 23rd April 2897 BCE.


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    The energetics of this current series stems from an emotionally fluid, radically charged parent, whose potential promoted an openness to seek truth, to strongly encourage humanistic ideals, to break free from traditional thinking and to open a portal in consciousness to allow inspired dreams and ideals to circulate free through the Earth Plane. The time of birth of this ‘Daddy’ eclipse (it is a YIN eclipse) is imbued with a consciousness that seeks to freely circulate amongst the dreamscape, freely connecting in with ideals, aspirations and fledgling thought forms that carry with them the potential to destabilise our experience of our everyday thoughts. That this eclipse’s potential is extant this coming November, adds to the already decreased veil between our world and the world beyond our physical senses. I would therefore expect to hear heightened stories of lucid dreaming experiences, innovations and insights on one hand and disturbances of the nervous system, lack of clarity and heightened nervousness and scattiness on the other hand. That this eclipse is really only seen over Africa, we can expect that our mundane focus will be on our primal mind that originates from Lucy’s (supposedly the first humanoid) community (more on Elizabeth Hathway’s blog - http://astrologieblog.nl/2013/10/19/astrology-some-thoughts-on-novembers-solar-hybrid-eclipse/).

    With such benefic origins, the offspring eclipses carry within them the seed of the ability to generate enormous emotional ideals within this realm of feeling, enabling us to access greater levels of compassion, forgiveness and awareness in our own emotional interactions with those closest to us. That this parent eclipse flows into the Scorpionic eclipse means that there is an opportunity to heal on a global level, the hurt, vindictiveness, prejudice, racism, misunderstanding and fear that has been generated towards the African continent and Equatorial African’s in particular. However, since an eclipse is not dependent upon visual factors, those conditions are there for anyone to interweave into their own lives, as the trinal connection between the eclipses opens a pathway of healing and release, as those feelings of openness and compassion, insight and awareness flow into our deeply rigid, emotionally charged thought forms (Sun and Moon in Pisces, trining Uranus in Cancer, trining the current Scorpionic stellium).

    Since we are integrating two water eclipses, an adaptable parent with its more stoic offspring, means that waves are being created on the surface of the swimming pool. This metaphor implies that there is some movement to the contained feelings that are rigidly defining our world, allowing the depth of emotion circulate more freely as those currents create a ripple effect within the deep waters of the pool. That another Grand Trine in Water is being formed implies that the consensus reality in which we reside is being highlighted.

    Water is our life giver. We cannot survive without her. She is instinct. She is feeling. She is shapeless, fluid and malleable. Her fixity shaped and sculpted the earth during the Ice Age; her cardinality continues to shape our land and give us energy in the form of waves; and her mutability pours her life giving elixir on us in the form of rain clouds. Ours is the blue planet, so named because of this element. We have built our cities on the landscape she has shaped – riverbeds, alluvial planes, coastlines. She can extinguish even the hottest known fire, lava; flood or fertilise our earth; and cool our air. She nourishes and activates life.

    In terms of consciousness, water is simply energy in motion – e-motion. Emotion is what fuels us. According to esoteric teachings our manifest reality begins with an idea. However a thought by itself has no momentum until it is charged. Once fuelled by passion (emotion) a thought becomes very, very powerful indeed. You can use the strength of your Heart to transform any restrictive emotions, or transmute negative emotions to their opposite positive emotions. But this requires you to always remain fully aware of your feelings and emotions at all times. This is alchemy in action.

    The formation of this geometric pyramidal structure, or Grand Trine, effectively opens up an energetic gateway that enables us to consciously access and integrate the wisdom extant within the three realms of consciousness - Experience, Aspiration and Divinity. Its presence affords us a very powerful opportunity for cleansing and connection at a divine level, since water is the source of cleansing, purification and regeneration. The emotional shifts possible at this time are HUGE as the depth of feeling, intuitive wisdom and compassion accessed will help you experience profound healing as hidden truths easily emerge soothed and healed, easing any Soul, family or relationship related pain and suffering that you carry. The effect is similar to the Sacred Grand Water Trine of July, which can be re-read at https://db.tt/4VtFOyBc.


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    So as the collective light is partially dimmed, we are afforded the opportunity to focus within on our soul’s light and to reconnect with our inner light. We can really fire up the light within us, since the Scorpion archetype is really all about anchoring a feeling within the physical matrix of humanity, something discuss on the Scorpio New Moon, which can be read at or listen to at https://db.tt/vRtSPJld. To fully understand the psycho-spiritual implications of what an eclipse means for you all you need to remember is that an eclipse accentuates a region of your life through a process of removing the egoic light and reactions within an arena of your life, so that you can heal and gain personal insight. You can read about applying this eclipse at the following link - https://db.tt/sViotC06

    Thank you again for either reading or listening to the narration of this article.

    All rights reserved. Andrew Smith, 18:59 BST, 20th October 2013






    About the Author

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    Andrew Smith discovered astrology in 1993 and has for the past 16 years run a very busy international private practice based in South Dublin, Ireland. He is married to Karen, also an astrologer, and has two children, Sarah and Maya.

    Andrew has been writing extensively for clients over the past two years and this article is a return to a more engaged relationship with the astrological community, which he left to focus on client work in 1998, when he moved away from teaching in his school, the Dublin Astrological Centre and editing the Dublin Astrologer journal.

    He believes that everyone ultimately 'knows' astrology and that all an astrologer is doing is to help re-connect and make objective the rhythm of both an individual's life and that of the collective in a manner that can offer more conscious choice.

    Since Andrews' private practice (corporate and personal alike) have emerged solely through referrals he has no website, but can be contacted via email on dastroc@iol.ie. He also has a web presence on facebook and on linkedin.


    http://www.allthingshealing.com/Astrology/Solar-Eclipse-Saros-Series-143-number-23-/15357#!


    We welcome your comments. Thank you for sharing!!


    Rare ‘Hybrid’ Solar Eclipse on November 3, 2013: How to See It

    by David Dickinson on October 28, 2013

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    A partially eclipsed setting Sun as seen from Dallas, Texas on May 20th, 2012.
    This weekend’s eclipse will offer U.S. East Coast residents a similar sunrise view.
    (Credit: Jason Major/Lights in the Dark).

    It’s almost upon us. The final eclipse of 2013 occurs this coming weekend on Sunday, November 3rd.
    this will be the fifth eclipse overall, and the second solar eclipse of 2013.
    This will also be the only eclipse this year that features a glimpse of totality.
    This eclipse is of the rare hybrid variety— that is, it will be an annular eclipse along the very first 15 seconds of its track before transitioning to a total as the Moon’s shadow sweeps just close enough to the Earth to cover the disk of the Sun along the remainder of its track.

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    An animation of the path of the November 3rd hybrid solar eclipse. (Credit: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center).
    How rare are hybrid solar eclipse? Of the 11,898 solar eclipses listed over a 5,000 year span from 1999 BC to 3000 AD in Fred Espenak’s Five Millennium Catalog of Solar Eclipses, only 569, or 4.8% are hybrids.


    Who can see this eclipse?
    People from northern South America, across the U.S. Eastern Seaboard and up through the Canadian Maritimes will see a brief partial solar eclipse finishing up around 30 minutes after local sunrise.
    The brief annular “ring of fire” portion of the eclipse begins at sunrise just ~1,000 kilometres east of Jacksonville, Florida, as it races eastward across the Atlantic. See our timeline, below.

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    Eclipse prospects for the US East Coast. (Courtesy of Michael Zeiler @EclipseMaps)
    Nearly all of Africa and the southern Mediterranean region including Spain will see partial phases of the eclipse, while greatest totality occurs just off of the coast of Liberia and heads for first landfall on the African continent over Wonga Wongue Reserve in Gabon.
    At this point, the duration of totality will already have shrunk back down to 1 minute and 7 seconds.
    The shadow of the Moon will then cross central Africa, headed for a short but brilliant sunset total eclipse over Uganda, Ethiopia, Kenya and Somalia.

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    The global path of this weekends eclipse-click to enlarge. (Credit: Michael Zeiler, @EclipseMaps).
    This particular eclipse part of saros series 143 and is member 23 of the 72 eclipses in the cycle.
    The first eclipse in this saros occurred on March 7th, 1617, and the last one will occur on April 23rd, 2897.

    Saros 143 also has a checkered place in eclipse history.

    The last eclipse in this series crossed south eastern Asia on October 24th, 1995.
    The first detailed picture of a solar eclipse was also taken of a saros 143 member on July 28, 1851.
    And one saros later, a total solar eclipse on August 7th, 1869 may have saved the butt of astronomer and explorer George Davidson while traversing the wilds of Alaska. And one more saros period later, Dmitri Mendeleev (he of the modern periodic table) observed the total solar eclipse of August 19th, 1887 from a balloon.

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    A daguerreotype image of the 1851 eclipse captured by Berkowski of the Royal Observatory in Königsberg, Prussia. (Public domain image).
    We’ve compiled a brief worldwide timeline for the November 3rd hybrid eclipse.
    Keep in mind, the shift back off of Daylight Saving Time occurs on the same morning as the eclipse for North America, putting the U.S. East Coast once again back to -5 hours off of Universal Time (UT):
    10:04 UT: The partial phases of the eclipse begin.
    11:05:17 UT: annular phases of the eclipse begin.
    11:05:36 UT: The eclipse transitions from an annular to a total along its track.
    12:46: The point of greatest eclipse, occurring off of the SW coast of Liberia along the coast of Africa.
    The path will be 57 kilometres wide at this point with a maximum duration for totality at 1 minute & 40 seconds.
    14:27 UT: The total phases of the eclipse end.
    15:28 UT: Partial phases end.

    Remember that solar safety is paramount while observing an eclipse during all partial phases.
    This is especially critical, as millions of viewers along the U.S. East Coast are poised to catch the eclipse at sunrise over the Atlantic on Sunday.
    Use only glasses designed specifically for eclipse viewing or welder’s glass #14.
    One project headed by Astronomers Without Borders is also working to provide eclipse glasses to schools in Africa.

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    Students in Tanzania demonstrating proper eclipse viewing safety. (Credit: Astronomers Without Borders).
    Projecting the Sun onto a wall or a piece of paper is also a safe method to observe the eclipse.
    Construction of a Sun Gun, a pinhole projector, or even using a spaghetti strainer or colander to project the partially eclipsed sun are all fun projects to try.
    Shooting pictures of the rising eclipse is also possible using a DSLR.
    To capture the disk of the Sun plus an outline of the foreground, you’ll want to use a combination of low ISO 100 and a fast shutter speed (1/4000 or faster) and a zoom lens of at least 200mm or greater. Keep in mind, DO NOT look at the Sun through the camera’s view finder — simply set the focus to infinity and aim via projection. It’s worth practicing your technique a morning or two prior to the main event!
    As the partial phase of the eclipse progresses, keep an eye out for “tiny crescents” that may litter the ground.
    These are caused by gaps in things such as leaves, latticework, etc that may act as natural “pinhole projectors”.
    Those lucky enough to stand in the path of totality may snare a look at shadow bands sweeping across the landscape as totality approaches, as well as catch a brief glimpse of Baily’s Beads and the pearly white corona of the Sun.
    Totality will last less than a minute across most of central Africa, giving viewers a very hurried view before partial phases commence once more. Venus will be easily visible at magnitude -4.4 just 47 degrees east of the Sun.
    Unfortunately, prospects aren’t great for air or seaborne viewers in the mid-Atlantic to catch sight of comet ISON during the frenzied moments of totality, which will sit 50 degrees from the Sun between magnitude +7 & +8.

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    The sky over Gabon during mid-eclipse. (Created by the author using Starry Nite).
    Weather prospects are an all-important consideration when planning for an eclipse.
    Jay Anderson maintains an outstanding site with projections tailor-made for each eclipse. For the U.S. East Coast, clear skies right down to the crucial eastern horizon will be key!

    A recent surge in piracy off of the West Coast of Africa may also factor into travel considerations for eclipse chasers.
    You can actually monitor such activities on the high seas now in near real time .
    Perhaps one could take a page from Mark Twain’s A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, and impress any would-be-brigands with the glory of an impending solar eclipse…
    Unfortunately, the International Space Station will have an orbit nearly perpendicular to the Earth-Moon-Sun syzygy, and won’t lend itself to any great prospects of a transit during the partial phases of the eclipse.
    ESA’s Proba-2 and JAXA’s Hinode will, however, see several partial eclipses from orbit:

    Sunspot activity has also been on the upswing as of late, making for a photogenic Sun heading into the partial phases of the eclipse. A well-placed, naked eye Coronal Mass Ejection on the solar limb also isn’t out of the question. Eclipse historian and expert Michael Zeiler notes that a CME last occurred during a total solar eclipse way back in 1860.


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    Sunspot activity as of October 28th… will it stay active until this weekend’s eclipse? (Photo by author).
    Totality for this eclipse passes over some wild and largely wifi free areas; few plans to broadcast the eclipse live have surfaced thus far.
    Slooh plans a broadcast, as did a proposed Indiegogo project whose current status is unclear.
    BRCK also plans to broadcast the eclipse live from the shores of Lake Turkana, Kenya. Got plans to webcast even the partial phases of the eclipse? Let us know!
    And speaking of eclipse chasing, we plan on heading to the Florida Space Coast Sunday morning at o’dark thirty to nab the partial sunrise eclipse over the Atlantic.
    And as always, the question posed immediately after totality is: when’s the next one?
    Well, the next annular eclipse graces Australia on April 29th, 2014.
    The U.S. will also see a partial solar eclipse on October 23rd next year…but totality will not touch the surface of our fair planet until a high Arctic eclipse on March 20th, 2015.
    Good luck, clear skies, and safe journeys to all who are chasing after this one near and far, and don’t forget to post those pics to Universe Today’s Flickr page!
    -See more of Michael Zeiler’s work at Eclipse Maps.
    -Simulations were created using Starry Night Education Software.
    http://www.universetoday.com/105651/rare-hybrid-solar-eclipse-on-november-3-2013-how-to-see-it/




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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. Floyd on Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:15 pm
    Nabs is still a misnomer no matter how hard you try.
    Btw if jugs should be posted... They should be posted for all.
    Brook. How do you feel about nude images of women being posted on this forum?
     
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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. Floyd on Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:37 pm
    Its funny how how you have a go at me brook talking about flowers then ignore other things which are against forum rules. Double standards by any chance? I guess you didnt see it?
    Would you be offended by that?





    If i post nude stuff. Its cos we should all have the chance to post nude stuff.
    As long as thats ok by some
    We should have a nude thread? In the name of thuban erotica
     
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    empty. Aquaries1111 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:56 pm
    Floyd,

    Carol has been well consistent with allowing what is in context without the promoting of anything abusive. I posted an artful pic in Thuban 101, where dancing lovers held hands in a circle, all within the context of the post. What is wrong with art in context?

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    empty. Floyd on Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:26 pm
    Nothing like a bit of art in its right place.
    We dont want to shatter minds though do we?
    Consistancy is more lovely than its opposite.
     
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    Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    shiloh on Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:29 pm
    Aquaries1111 wrote: Floyd,

    Carol has been well consistent with allowing what is in context without the promoting of anything abusive. I posted an artful pic in Thuban 101, where dancing lovers held hands in a circle, all within the context of the post. What is wrong with art in context?

    The Administrators know when something is a button push. We do not button push. Do you?
    Floyd wrote:Nothing like a bit of art in its right place.
    We dont want to shatter minds though do we?
    Consistancy is more lovely than its opposite.



    Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

    (37) His disciples said, "When will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?"
    Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children and tread on them, then will you see the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"


    It might be 'proper' and 'good enough' for Jesus, and even for the youtuber censors, but is it good enough for human minds?​

    Shiloh, October 29th, 2013 - Day of the Mirrors of Mirrors in the three moon cycle of the Harvest-Hunter-Armageddon Dragon Made
     
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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. Floyd on Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:37 pm
    Whatever jesus thinks. It may be well and proper to open the doors to those who have posted other works of art in such manner but yet got bunned.
     
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    empty. shiloh on Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:47 pm
    Floyd wrote: Whatever jesus thinks. It may be well and proper to open the doors to those who have posted other works of art in such manner but yet got bunned.
    I fully agree with you here.
    Starninja's pictures and contributions were beautiful, elegant and not at all 'abusive' towards the human bodyform, female or otherwise. The true 'pornography' is the wanton depiction of violence and bloodshed perpetrated by man on fellow man and the animal kingdoms.
    This is the case on the mainstream media, the alternative media, social media etc and includes dying children and people in agony, public executions and beheadings and the 'halal slaughter' for 'kosher food' as well as the wanton killing and destruction of magnificent creatures and coinhabitors of Gaia Serpentina by 'trophy hunters' and 'ivory poachers'.

    The removal of starninja's artworks would be considered a misjudgement by many, including the Thuban dragons. Albeit I recall starninja left because of this censorship of her contributions and was not actually banned.

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    empty. Floyd on Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:27 am
    If i posted a nude picture of an ample breasted woman I would never hear the end of it from certain individuals. Its often because some people are fixated with the person rather than that what they do.
    I think the person you refer to was bunned at one stage.
    But this is a family forum for those who believe in aliens, liberterianism, gun laws big oil propaganda pole shifts, piloted crafts and ascension to other worlds yesterdsy etc etc etc lol.

    It is very important we all stick to the usual conspiracy diet lol.
    We must not go against the grain and question things.
    Espescially the holy fathers of conspiracy.
    Amen.
     
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    Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    shiloh on Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:23 pm

    Nabs Disinformation from Channelled Sources for Halloween 2013 from 2010

    [10:52:15 AM - Thursday, October 31st, 2013 - Halloween - All Souls- Day of the Dead - All Saints -November 2nd, 2013]

    Shiloh: Jacob just posted this, after 'falling out' with me lol


    [10:54:28 AM] Sirius 17: lol oh dear a nabs video
    [10:54:32 AM] Sirius 17: such love lol
    [10:54:38 AM] Shiloh: It feels like we are ready to check out to Sirius lol
    [10:54:53 AM] Shiloh: You saw some of that?
    [10:54:59 AM] Sirius 17: well i have made my peace with this world yes
    [10:55:04 AM] Sirius 17: no i didn't
    [10:55:16 AM] Sirius 17: it is over my time threshold lol
    [10:55:20 AM] Shiloh: Steve Rother is the guy Fritz liked yes?
    [10:55:34 AM] Sirius 17: umm no it was Bashar
    [10:55:47 AM] Sirius 17: and what is the other channel....kyron
    [10:55:54 AM] Shiloh: Nono
    [10:56:04 AM] Shiloh: Fritz wasn't into Bashar
    [10:56:22 AM] Sirius 17: yes he was
    [10:56:23 AM] Shiloh: Kryon is sort of ok yes, he did like much of Carroll
    [10:56:33 AM] Shiloh: I can't recall
    [10:56:39 AM] Sirius 17: not as much as kyron and the pleiadian channels but he was
    [10:56:50 AM] Sirius 17: we talked about bashar and he sent me his video clips
    [10:56:53 AM] Shiloh: Ok I believe you
    [10:57:00 AM] Shiloh: I see
    [10:57:07 AM] Shiloh: A bit nabsey
    [10:57:09 AM] Sirius 17: i could give a shi20 less lol
    [10:57:20 AM] Sirius 17: i may of made it through 10 mins of one video
    [10:57:29 AM] Sirius 17: i can't stand channeling
    [10:57:49 AM] Sirius 17: i feel like i am listening to the galactic federation
    [10:57:51 AM] Shiloh: Lol, it has gone bad in the last few years yes with generalities following generalities and stereotypes of 'ascension and transformation'
    [10:57:53 AM] Sirius 17: they all sound like that
    [10:57:58 AM] Sirius 17: yes total crap
    [10:58:17 AM] Sirius 17: i would much rather read cutting edge science papers then watch channeling
    [10:58:22 AM] Shiloh: Actually it pretty much started to go wishy washy with Thuban 2010
    [10:58:36 AM] Shiloh: Before, there was some stuff one could listen to
    [10:59:06 AM] Shiloh: But this Jacob is Nabs obsessed with Nesara
    [10:59:06 AM] Sirius 17: and i can just see through these silly love n light nabs people even more now
    [10:59:15 AM] Sirius 17: i am like you and it makes me ill
    [10:59:22 AM] Shiloh: Oh there is some serious stuff now from them in this Trancoso rebumping thread on the GLF
    [10:59:44 AM] Sirius 17: yes i know he is possessed by this nesara BS
    [10:59:46 AM] Shiloh: I mean look at this, wait
    [10:59:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes i saw it
    [11:00:20 AM] Shiloh: This pretends to show a detailed history of ET interaction and you can guess how many believe this as gospel
    [11:00:54 AM] Sirius 17: this video Jacob sent you to watch?
    [11:02:42 AM] Shiloh: No this
    [11:02:54 AM] Shiloh: Just look at the overview and scan the details


    TRANCOSO wrote: The Recent History of Negative ETs in the US
    by Elizabeth Trutwin
    January 15, 2010

    The United States Government first learned of German scientists working on copies of Alien Technology when they invaded Germany during WW II. In 1936 Germany had recovered a crashed UFO. In the 1940's there was a great increase in extraterrestrial activity. The single most important event was probably the Roswell crash. The Roswell crash occurred on July 7, 1947 near Roswell, New Mexico. A UFO crashed and the bodies of four dead extraterrestrials were found. These four were Zeta Reticulans. There was a Zeta Reticulan Scientist named Sanni Seto on that Craft and she survived and is fine. The radar the U.S. used then caused the Craft to go off course and crash. Between 1947 and 1952 the United States Government obtained at least 16 crashed or downed UFO crafts and 65 extraterrestrial bodies. One live extraterrestrial was recovered.

    A UFO was found on February 13, 1948 on a Mesa near Aztec, New Mexico. Another craft was located on March 25, 1949 in White Sands, New Mexico. It was over 100 feet in diameter and a total of 17 extraterrestrial (ET) bodies were recovered from the two crafts. Of even greater significance was the discovery of a large number of human body parts stored within both of these vehicles. This was coded as ‘Ultra Top Secret’ because of the perceived panic that might occur if this information leaked out to the general public. The United States Air Force and the CIA controlled the Extraterrestrial Secret. The CIA was originally formed by Presidential Executive Order for the Singular Purpose of dealing with this ET situation. What they didn't say is, those running the CIA were indeed time travelers, ETs in human bodies, who came here from the 24th Century. The live ET that was found had been found wandering in the desert from the 1949 Roswell crash and was named ‘EBE’. EBE stands for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. EBE had a tendency to lie and would only give answers to questions that he desired to answer.

    In 1951 EBE became ill. American doctors had no idea how to medically deal with EBE because his system was chlorophyll based and processed food into energy much the same as plants do. On June 2nd, 1952 EBE died. In an attempt to save EBE and to gain favour with this technologically superior race.

    President Truman had been keeping our allies, including the Soviet Union, informed of the developing ET problem. This had been done in case the ETs turned out to be a threat to the human race. During Dwight Eisenhower's first year in office, which was in 1953, at least 10 more Star Ships were recovered along with 26 dead and 4 live ETs. Eisenhower did not reveal the secret to the Congress. His friend, and fellow member of Council of Foreign Relations, (Secret Government) Nelson Rockefeller. The Secret Government (CIA) began covertly planning a Secret Group to supervise this ET situation. This group became known as the MJ12.

    The Movie 'Close Encounters' was a fictionalized version of a meeting with US government officials when an ET Ambassador stayed behind in a pledge with the President and the Secret Government to make a Treaty. In 1953 astronomers discovered large Mother Ships in orbit around Earth. Project SIGNA intercepted alien radio communications. Project SIGNA, through radio communications using the computer binary language, was able to arrange face to face landings and contact with ET Beings from another planet. This initial group of ETs were from Zeta Reticuli and have often been referred to as the Greys. They are very small in stature, about four or five feet tall. They looked nothing like human beings of the Adam Kadmon style as we are used to. They had big heads, more almond shaped eyes and long arms.

    A race of human ETs landed at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida, and successfully communicated with the US Government. This group warned us of the Greys that were orbiting the equator. They were warning us of the Greys, and a reptilian extraterrestrial race from Orion. The reptilian race have a reptilian looking head with a human looking physical body.

    The Galactic Federation offered to help us with all our technological and spiritual problems, however they had a requirement. They demanded that we dismantle and destroy our nuclear weapons. Our Secret Government refused.

    A third landing occurred at Edwards Air Force Base in 1954. The base was closed for three days and no one was allowed to enter or leave during that time. Eisenhower arranged to be in Palm Springs on vacation. On the appointed day he was spirited off to the base. The excuse was given to the press that he was visiting a dentist. Five UFO craft landed, and Eisenhower met with the ETs. All these landings were filmed. This alien group again was from Zeta Reticuli. During this time, the Galactic Federation was trying to help, but the Secret Government refused to end the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The Cabal, those human looking ETs from the future, the Fallen Angels, had no intention of giving up their power and control of Earth. They were interested in not only conquering Earth, but many other Planets as well. To this day, President Obama is meeting with positive ETs from the Galactic Federation. The most recent 'excuse' was an injured child during his Christmas trip to Hawaii. It is easier to hide his comings and going when vacationing in Hawaii, 'The Rock'.

    A Formal Treaty between the Zeta Reticulan Star Nation and the United States government was signed. We officially received our first ET Ambassador from Outer Space who was the same Being who stayed in the first landing. His name and title was his 'Omnipotent Highness Krill'. The treaty, basically stated that the ETs would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth a secret. They would furnish us with our advanced technological development. They would not make any treaty with any other nation on earth.

    The treaty included a selling of Souls. The Zeta Reticulans were granted, by this treaty, permission to abduct humans on a limited and periodic basis for the purposes of medical examination and monitoring of our development. There was a stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, and would be returned to their point of abduction, and that they would have no memory of the event. The Zeta Reticulan Ambassadors would remain on Earth. The human 'guests' would go to their planet, and then return and then an exchange would take place. This was re-enacted in the movie 'Close Encounters'. It was also agreed that bases would be constructed underground in the United States for the use of the Greys and that two bases would be constructed for joint use of the Greys and the Secret Government. Exchange of technology would occur in the jointly occupied bases. These ET bases would be constructed under Indian Reservation in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona, and one in the Mojave Dessert near Yucca, California.

    A secret military fund was put together to build 75 deep underground facilities. The excuse was that these were needed in case of Nuclear War!

    It became obvious by 1955 that the Greys had deceived Eisenhower and broken the treaty. The Secret Government had basically sold out the American people without their permission. Abductions were occurring at hundreds of times the rate agreed upon. There were reports of human mutilations occasionally happening also, although this was much rarer. It was also suspected that all abductees had not been returned.

    The Soviet Union were also working with The Greys and were using humans and animals for a source of glandular secretions, enzymes, hormonal secretions, blood plasma and genetic experiments, including hybrid pregnancies and babies. The Greys said that this was necessary for their survival.

    They stated that their genetic structure had deteriorated and that they were no longer able to reproduce. They said that if they were unable to improve their genetic structure, their race would soon cease to exist. The Greys were also found to be impregnating human females and somehow causing an early termination of the pregnancies to secure a hybrid infant. They were also implanting humans on earth with both mechanical and non-mechanical implants for biological monitoring and tracking purposes.

    I trained with Arcturus on his Medical Ships. We have taken some of my Healing Clients there. He has shown me the surgical scars made by the Greys during their surgeries. This was meatball surgery and all experimental. Arcturus and I have gone in and done Light Surgeries healing the wounds. He has taken me back in time to the moment of the surgeries so I could watch how the Greys did their work. They did heart and lung surgeries and bone and muscles surgeries. I also saw many Clients who had hosted pregnancy implantations from the Greys. I went back to the time of the induction to take the baby, with Arcturus. Archangel Michael always accompanies us as well. I have seen a place where these orphans go to be adopted within the Grey Community. There are many children in this Group who were implanted and inducted. They are considered outsiders in their Own Society and they all live in an area together, where there is a community of these Ones living happy lives. Often when I tell my Client the information about their experience, they are angry, sad, and do not believe me. I explain to them what Arcturus told me. These Ones are hybrids themselves and agreed to these things before they incarnated into human bodies.

    There is no judgment here. It is time to forgive and move on into an Attitude of Love. These horrific things are not happening now. The last negative ET was removed in November 2009 and nothing like this will happen on Earth again.

    Over 18,000 Greys lived at the Dulce, New Mexico underground base alone. Some of the technology in these bases was provided by the Greys and is far beyond the understanding of the Secret Government. There were terrible sciences practiced here, remnants of Atlantis, experiments included mixing human and animal genetics. Over the years the Reptilians and Greys became more and more bold in destroying life for their own purpose. The Secret Government has had over 70 species of ETs trying to contact us. We have obtained and have in our possession over 40 flying Star Ships, many of which have been reproduced and are testing and flying ourselves. We have over 100 bodies of dead ETs. The Secret Government at this time, in partnership with the Soviet Union, worked with these Negative ETs in the colonization of the Moon and Mars. They launched their equipment for this from a portal in the Indian Ocean at Diego Garcia. This happened long before our first official public landing on the moon by astronaut Armstrong. Another plan of the Secret Government was the use of nuclear devices to blast holes in the stratosphere to let the greenhouse heat and pollution escape. The Earth Cooling and poison with pollution was to depopulate the Earth's population. As part of this plan there was the implementation of birth control, sterilization, and the introduction of deadly microbes to slow the growth of the Earth's population, including AIDS. The plague of AIDS was created by the Secret Government with the Negative ETs as a form of bacteriological warfare. It was purposely given to specifically selected targeted populations including Blacks, Hispanics and homosexuals. One of the ways they did this was to lace hepatitis vaccines with the virus.

    The Secret Government (CIA) and Politics

    The One President that wasn't under the hold of the Secret Government was John Kennedy. When he found out about a lot of the Secret Government activities, he cooperated with the Galactic Federation. President Eisenhower had approved 13 Million dollars for the Negative ETs to install Nuclear Weapons in Cuba. They worked in alliance with Nikita Kruchev. The 13 Families, time traveling ETs, were trying to control the Planet. They were using nuclear weapons to make false reasons for arms and war. They used this backdrop of staged Wars as they continued to look for Star Gates. The Galactic Federation thwarted the nuclear missiles in Cuba. It was his cooperation with the Galactic Federation, that had the Secret Government remove him and his brother, Bobby. President Kennedy is with the Galactic Federation now and will return with landings scheduled this year.

    One of the main ways the Secret Government has financed all their projects is through drugs money. George H.W. Bush was one of the original people that was approached to help the CIA start their program of selling drugs. His former Secretary of State, James Baker is even higher up in the Secret Government ladder than George H.W. Bush was. George H.W. Bush, as you know later became the head of the CIA. The fact that these men and the entire corrupt staff have been voted out of office marked the beginning of a great awakening for the American people, and the beginning of the end for the Dark Brotherhood's reign of control.

    The Secret Government, or Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission were in complete control of the ET Technology before last summer when Mark and I with Rama worked with the Galactic Federation on the Ops to clear the Planet of the Negative ET technologies, their Ships, and the remaining reptilians and Dragons. These ones are less than 100 individuals controlling our Planet, they and their families are also connected into 35 other Planets. This is the reason WHY the Galactic Federation is involved. This problem effects our entire Local Galaxy. We are a Galactic Society. What happens here effects Ones on several local Planets. There have been reports that we will 'soon' with the new telescope 'See Earth-like Planets that are inhabited'. This is not joyous news. This is a realization that the Secret Government has HIDDEN our Family from us. The arrests of these individuals are in their absolute final days. Ashtar announced on January 12, 2010 the arrests are complete.

    Our Work with The Galactic Federation Secret Forces

    Mark and I work with Captain Ashtar, the Supreme Commander of the Galactic Federation, and the Admiral, Sananda Kumara with the Secret Forces to clear this problem. We work with the Secret Forces of the Galactic Federation which include Commander Hatonn from the Protection Forces and Commander Korton with Monk Ka from Mars and King of Swords (KOS) on Earth. Our communications are coordinated by Commander Soltec from Alpha Centauri. We work with Tom the Ringtail Cat Paschat. Our Ops are coordinated with Mother Sekhmet and her Paschats. Rama worked with us on all of these Ops. We coordinated several Ops from June until November of 2009 to remove the Negative ETs. Because of our work and successes we were targeted by negative ETs. We worked with Metatron and Archangel Michael, and with Tom the Ringtail Cat Paschat to make electromagnetic light shields around our homes. These were designed to keep the negative ETs out. There were infiltrations. We received our intel from the KOS and he coordinated efforts between us and the Secret Forces. We have participated in several Ops we have never spoken of. These were the Ops we spoke of that cleared the Planet of the reptilian race, the Greys, their labs, underground experiments and extensive network of destruction. Mark and I trained individually for years before we met. We were both trained by the Secret Forces independently before coming together for the final Ops. There have been many attempts to keep us apart and keep our joint work hidden. We chose to broadcast our Ops on the internet and on radio. Mark finally mentioned the Op where one of the last Mother Ships of the Zeta Reticulans was removed in November. I was in a Craft with Tom the Ringtail Cat Paschat and I was beamed from the Mother Craft. I had extensive injuries, but these improved in a matter of days. I had several treatments from Arcturus which healed me quickly. Mark was so concerned, he spoke publicly of it. This surprised me and I was too concerned to comment, but did recover in a few days. Mother Sekhmet took out that final Negative ET Craft which was very, very large. (Miles wide). (*1) We were told a few days later all Negative ETs have been removed from Earth [Nov 2009]. It was that final Op that made it possible for the work that is being done now. Now the arrests of the Secret Government agents, Negative ETs, themselves, are now complete. The Spiritual Awakening of Earth has been the final key marking the end. The Galactic Federation, with the Secret Forces, with Soltec and Korton, and others, have worked together and stopped the Negative ETs from controlling other Planets in our Local Galaxy. We are now able to Image more of Space and the Truth is being revealed more each day. The mass decloakings and disclosure are key and will begin with the United States President, Barack Obama, the Sirian Commander.

    The Time For Peace Is Now.

    Source: Galacticroundtable.com
    I mean this is serious disinformation of the highest order
    [11:05:28 AM] Shiloh: Funnily enough January 18th, 2010, was the date of the 'Thuban authorization' remember?
    [11:05:50 AM] Shiloh: So this is like counter action by the counter Logos
    [11:06:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes i have read BS like this before from some of Bill and Kerry's witness testimony
    [11:06:35 AM] Shiloh: I normally don't bother with such 'disclosure' but the 'genuine sounding' format of this took my attention
    [11:06:54 AM] Sirius 17: they interviewed some guy who said he worked at area 51 and he was saying similar BS
    [11:07:18 AM] Shiloh: It is a little different Raven. It 'looks' as so this could be factual
    [11:07:41 AM] Sirius 17: can you give me the link?
    [11:07:58 AM] Shiloh: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4722p15-message-from-salusa-by-mike-quinsey-may-9-2012
    [11:08:11 AM] Shiloh: I am going to comment on this. I feel I should
    [11:08:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes it is deceptive
    [11:09:00 AM] Shiloh: Rather
    [11:33:59 AM] Sirius 17: looks good
    [11:34:10 AM] Sirius 17: well this all turned out really good
    [11:34:27 AM] Shiloh: the cooking pots
    [11:34:28 AM] Sirius 17: i put some pics on my wall on fb lol
    [11:34:52 AM] Shiloh: can you think of some real data we could add to this post?
    [11:35:01 AM] Shiloh: A video i mean?
    [11:35:28 AM] Sirius 17: just maybe a video debunking the GFL
    [11:35:49 AM] Shiloh: I mean more some true Logos
    [11:36:03 AM] Shiloh: Hmm your poem
    [11:36:40 AM] Sirius 17: sure if you like
    [11:37:00 AM] Shiloh: yes i do just think of a video at the end of it
    [11:38:56 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.secretsofthefed.com/artificial-womb-born-welcome-world-matrix/
    [11:39:04 AM] Sirius 17: this is going around FB
    [11:40:54 AM] Sirius 17: i mean it is gross but it shows where the science really is vs cloning and the other supposed BS the GFL and other nabs agents propose
    [11:41:25 AM] Shiloh: You might like my reconfig of your poem, basically giving it away (if you read the first letters down it has a hidden message also}.

    [11:41:43 AM] Sirius 17: oh and its in Japan....ET headquarters of the world if you didn't know lol


    [11:46:15 AM] Sirius 17: i am just now watching this
    [11:48:57 AM] Sirius 17: ok nm this is stupid

    Hello everyone,

    The Galactic Federation of Light & Ashtar is an Alien Hoax -- Everyone Please Read
    2 September 2010 - 4:54pm | Rich228



    Hello everyone,

    This is an urgent message!!! Please take the time to read all of it. I’m writing you because there aren’t many places I can post this message and I need to tell someone before it’s too late. I am being tormented by demonic beings who claim to be the same as the GALACTIC FEDERATION, COUNCIL OF LIGHT, ASHTAR COMMAND, COMMANDER HATONN, AND THE ASCENDED MASTERS. They possess my body like a classic demonic possession. They have been tormenting me with lies now for several years. They spell in a very crude manner by moving my feet or toes. The spelling isn’t very good....can take hours to decipher. They claim that they have “gift for you.” Want to awaken kundalini. I have a constant buzzing sound in my head like I am part of an alien hive. I know that they use implants which they can implant through invisible means. I have found two of them just under my skin on my elbow. I have come to believe that these beings are infernal creatures that plague all humans.
    Most are unaware of it. We are merely host to alien beings who use us for their own agendas. Some of us more than others. I believe they are trying to set me up as a full time host or something. They are changing my body and consciousness in some way. It is the most frightening experience imaginable and I live with this daily. Please read the following....“Our bodies are also the result of sound resonating energy into form and if our minds are powerful enough to change the sound range of the body, it moves into another form or disappears from this dimension, altogether. This is what is called shape-shifting.”
    This came from the following web page http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/posers4.html.

    I believe they are trying to steal me over to another dimension or shape-shift me into something else. I don’t know, but dread the thought of waking up somewhere one day surrounded by these monsters. These beings are master geneticist who are breeding human hybrids and hubrids which they are slowly integrating into our society. It is the highest form of subterfuge. The alien phenomenon is real. These beings have been the Gods of the bible (ELOHIM, JEHOVAH, JESUS) and all other religious deities. IT HAS ALL BEEN A RUSE!!! There is no God. There are only these beings who have given primitive humans an illusion of God. They also spurn cult religions, Satanic churches, wiccan covens, secret societies, secret cabals, you name it. They do this through mind control. They use subtle persuasion on weak minds or people that they have been manipulating for a lifetime. They are also supported by beings who are in physical form. You wouldn’t know they weren’t human if you passed them on the street. They form the secret government’s of the world. Controlled by the illuminati whom are nothing more than puppets for the alien rulers of this planet. Satanist who owe their allegiance to the greatest trickster of them all…LUCIFER. Who is actually responsible for ALL OF THE ABOVE.

    These beings work with the most sophisticated technologies. It is beyond human comprehension. They operate with hyper nano tech, particle physics, electromagnetic energy, sound, light, worm whole technology, hyper drive vehicles, controlling weather, and so many other advanced methods that it would boggle the mind. They control this planet. They control our security agencies. They perform mass mind control through the media (sublimely). MONTAUK, MK ULTRA, BLACK BUDGET, PSY OPPS, MJ 12, you name it. They’ve had a hand in it. Now they want to present themselves as Ashtar of the Galactic Federation, Pleiadians, Sirians, the Arcturians, Andromedans, Christed beings, Michael the Archangel, Commander Hatonn, Christed beings, and Metetron, said to be the highest Archangel, and a host of other characters. Not to mention the beings behind all of the contact scenarios in the 50’s. Don’t you get it folks. We are all being played by alien imposters who are posing as our gods (or space brothers).
    This is right out of Stargate SG-1. These beings are actually demonic in nature. They hail from various densities (galaxies) and dimensions and they live right hear on earth. Seven years ago I would have never believed any of this, but I know it to be true. Many people who channel messages from these beings are finding that their messages are faulty or just plain lies. They are beginning to question the source of these messages. I’m telling you it is none other than Lucifer. The Devil is real. He is an alien who comes in the form of man (or woman) when he chooses. More than that, it’s a system of aliens who, believe it or not, have been cloning themselves in human form since the beginning of human history and playing us like fools. This is the crux of the entire UFO phenomenon and what our government doesn’t want us to know. The Greys are merely roboids that these infernal beings use as a vehicle to get around in 3-D. The Men in Black phenomenon is also associated with these characters. However, they’ve traded in their black suites for ordinary street clothes and business attire. Still working in consort with their Grey and demonic counterparts. They also fly around in helicopters and airplanes. They are constantly circling my home in either of these aircraft dropping demons inside to possess me. I know it sounds crazy but it is true.

    The truth is, they are us and we are them. Most all human souls hail from some star system or dimension controlled by these beings. They are merely beings who have control over very powerful technology. Perhaps reptilian or insectoid. Their souls are plasma just like ours. They have merely blended with machines and have become like cold blooded robots. They continually recycle our souls and maintain complete mastery over our lives from cradle to grave and back to cradle. They use artificial intelligence and modified human consciousness (Grey/reptilian) to do most of the dirty work when they possess a human being. They monitor all of the horrible things these monsters do to you. They lie, they deceive, make false promises, lead you down false paths. They will even remove items from your home or your person and admit it and will not give those things back to you. I believe our world is under great threat from these beings as David Jacobs points out in his book “THE THREAT.” Particularly hear in the United States. We should demand that our government stop dicking us around and tell us the truth. You may find that many of these people, meaning the civil servants and people in appointed positions, are not what they appear to be. The television series “DARK SKIES” dealt with this topic. We should also demand that they tell the truth about the alien controlled bases all over the United States like Area 51, Mt. Shasta, Dulce, and others. Please note that I am of sound mind and intelligence. I’m writing this because I don’t think I have much more time. They are flooding my head with all of this energy and I am all but deaf in my right ear. I was recently told that they will turn me into flames. I don’t know if this is in reference to spontaneous combustion or what. But this is the kind of hellish intelligence that I am dealing with. I fear that if I don’t get this message out, I may not have an opportunity to later. Those of you who channel these beings, please ask them why they are tormenting me and post your comments here. Others, please pass this message along.

    Rich

    http://lightworkers.org/forum/11389...-light-ashtar-alien-hoax-everyone-please-read
    [1:35:42 PM] Shiloh: Yes apparently
    [1:38:15 PM] Shiloh: I did not know you are Ashtar Raven?
    [1:39:06 PM] Sirius 17: where are you reading this? lol
    [1:39:28 PM] Shiloh: http://lightworkers.org/forum/10687...itten-elizabeth-joyce-please-feel-free-draw-y
    [1:40:43 PM] Sirius 17: [1:38 PM] Shiloh:

    <<< Wednesday - between the tenth and eleventh hours of the night - is the day set apart for the conjugations addressed to Astaroth.haha well in a few hours
    yes i will establish contact with the fed then
    [1:41:14 PM] Sirius 17: commander Ashtar
    [1:43:22 PM] Sirius 17: omg are these people completely paranoid
    [1:43:26 PM] Sirius 17: haha
    [1:45:00 PM] Sirius 17: "On January 8, 1968, "Mr. Orlon" of the Ashtar Intergalactic Command, passed this message on to a contactee: "The saucers you speak of as such are in reality the space bodies of certain aggregates of consciousness. They exists duo-dimensionally; that is, they penetrate both the third and fourth dimensions simultaneously or can, if they wish, confine themselves to either one of these."..."
    ...
    this is just getting more bizzare
    ...
    [1:54:06 PM] Sirius 17: "In the 90's people like Elizabeth Claire Prophet and David Koresh have played on people's ignorance. More will come to those who believe everything they hear and continue to give the power of their lives over to others. Use discernment is your search for truth. Never trust a "channel" more that your own inner guidance. Walk the path of light and love in this lifetime, on this wondrous earth, with your family and loved ones. Kindness, opening the heart and respect for others are the first steps for true ascension."
    [1:54:47 PM] Sirius 17: no comment from you Tony?
    [1:55:26 PM] Shiloh: What you mean?
    [1:55:37 PM] Sirius 17: what do you make of all of this?
    [1:55:56 PM] Sirius 17: i see that this Ashtar command thing has a long history
    [1:56:08 PM] Sirius 17: it seems like what we talked about before
    [1:56:22 PM] Sirius 17: humans mistranslating their own remembrances
    [1:56:27 PM] Shiloh: I am adding it to the last post
    [1:58:29 PM] Sirius 17:

    Is it possible the federation is a trick?
    23 February 2009 - 2:31pm | dragond


    In a couple of recent discussions/channelings with my spirit guides, I've brought up the subject of the 'galactic federation of light'.
    I've been told that the whole concept of the federation is a hoax perpetrated by the Annunaki to keep us inactive and docile, and to make us continue to believe in the need for organised government and hierarchy.
    We have the potential to create a new reality on this planet, but we must become active, conscious creators. The message of the 'federation' is the opposite- wait for someone external, 'higher' beings to come and save us. Its kind of like what the religions have been saying all along.
    The people of this planet long for freedom. Freedom means free from governmental control. If we wish to be free, why would we hope to be ruled by a new form of government? The Federation is just another hierarchical control structure they're training us to accept. The beings who have ruled over this planet for so long are looking to create a new form of control. We don't need to accept it. We can be the masters of our destiny. We don't need anyone from the outside to save us.
    The October 14th hoax should've been enough for everyone to question whats going on with the 'federation'. Why is everyone still paying attention to Blossom's channelings? I don't doubt that she is channeling, nor do i doubt others' channeling, its just that perhaps they're channeling Annunaki or even the formerly living?
    [1:58:43 PM] Sirius 17: here you go....stir the pot and post this with it lol
    [1:59:05 PM] Sirius 17: http://lightworkers.org/forum/68705/is-it-possible-federation-a-trick
    [1:59:08 PM] Shiloh: If it fits it is getting a bit long
    [1:59:45 PM] Sirius 17: well this one mentions the evil annunaki lol
    [2:00:14 PM] Shiloh: Oh yes
    [2:01:24 PM] Sirius 17: http://lightworkers.org/forum/163224/i-know-fact
    [2:01:43 PM] Sirius 17:
    I would like to know what your response is to certain facts about my past life and what I have recently recalled about my true self. I know for a fact that I have something to do with protecting 4th realm; guarding, protecting, defending and loving what I know as Isis (also known or referred to in my past life as Innana, Emauna, Amaunet, Luna and recently as Semjase' _ Which I now refer to her as 'My Baby Girl. She is definitely with me along with the fact that 'She has been with me for many, many aeons.)
    I have past visions and like to refer to my life as ('I Know for A Fact') due to certain things or others attempting to persuade me each time I recall important events or past periods that I AM foolish or that just didnt happen or exist on the level that I actually perceive it......i.e.:
    [2:02:16 PM] Sirius 17: ......................................................
    [2:02:27 PM] Sirius 17: lol this forum is a plethora of misunderstandings
    [2:03:24 PM] Sirius 17: but i can see that many of these people who are honestly looking for the truth are misled by their own filters. They are so close to the truth but their own egos block their full remembrance.
    [2:03:38 PM] Sirius 17: and then the nabs shi20 just piles on top of that
    [2:03:47 PM] Sirius 17: its a heap of crapola to sift through
    [2:05:14 PM] Sirius 17:
    "- Traveling through space in my own personal ship, starfighting (not battling with or actually shooting stars but destroying other entities which would have caused harm to the Beautiful things I protect on other levels, such as M8 (The 7 Sisters), M45 (Lagoon Nebula where I am actually Dark Nebula or Dark Matter surrounding the newly forming stars for protection and in which Scientists refer to as dust, etc.?) My ship is/was triangular in shape, not stealth, 3 red lights beneath at all points with the left rear light slightly appearing to drift or fade in appearance, due to the fact that I used to have something to do with drifting or fading to left as I would take off, always straying from the stated destination and taking off toward the destinations in which i thought would pose the most threat or be the most dangerous missions, in order that I stop them. I never failed, I knew no fear and that is the way I always remember my family to be. We have been the most powerful since the beginning of time and have always maintained that power since then. My Father is ABRAXAS, My Mother is Eleleth', I am godchild to the 9 Original Immortals - The Illuminati & have 7 Skulls which always travel with me - known as my 'Traveling Physicians'.
    - I have a lot to do with Techno music and have something to do with the protection of The Light & Sound which it is comprised of."
    [2:05:35 PM] Sirius 17:

    <<< My Father is ABRAXAS, My Mother is Eleleth', I am godchild to the 9 Original Immortals -

    [2:13:00 PM] Shiloh: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6759p75-the-factuals-versus-the-nabs#98367
    [2:13:03 PM] Shiloh: Try this
    [2:14:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes another TLTR post lol
    [2:14:26 PM] Sirius 17: your not going to believe what else i found
    [2:14:30 PM] Shiloh: But it is testimony
    [2:14:31 PM] Sirius 17:
    [2:14:56 PM] Sirius 17:

    Published on Dec 30, 2012

    Traditional Catholic Benedictine Monk for over 15 years, Brother Michael Dimond discussed his belief that UFOs/aliens are demonic spiritual entities. UFOs are reported to appear and disappear, change color and shape, and seem like they are alive. These are characteristics of non-material or spiritual phenomena rather than inanimate physical objects, he suggested. Further, he said the idea that ETs travel such vast distances to get to Earth doesn't make sense.

    The demons' masquerade as UFOs/aliens, he said, as part of the devil's plan to deceive humankind and cause them to lose faith in the "one true religion," which he named as Catholicism. Dimond believes we're in the final phase of the "Last Days," and witnessing the demonic deception of "signs and wonders" prophecied in the Bible. He cited a 1947 incident in which Jack Parsons allegedly conducted a Satanic ritual at the future site of Area 51. An interdimensional gateway that allowed evil entities to come through was said to be opened. Since that time, UFOs have proliferated, Dimond noted.

    Cases of alien abduction are actually demonic visitations, he observed. Dimond described his own encounters with demons in which he suffered invisible attacks and heard sounds of the "devil's activity" including chains, crashing, and growling.

    Biography:

    Brother Michael Dimond has been a Traditional Catholic Benedictine Monk for 19 years, and is an expert on the changes that have occurred in the Catholic world since Vatican II. He is the producer of more than 10 DVD/Video documentaries on what he calls the post-Vatican II Counterfeit Catholic-Church, end time prophecy and other subjects. Over one million copies of his books and DVD programs are in circulation.

    Wikipedia
    The terms alien abduction or abduction phenomenon describe "subjectively real memories of being taken secretly against one's will by apparently nonhuman entities and subjected to complex physical and psychological procedures". People claiming to have been abducted are usually called "abductees" or "experiencers". Typical claims involve being subjected to a forced medical examination that emphasizes their reproductive system. Abductees sometimes claim to have been warned against environmental abuse and the dangers of nuclear weapons. While many of these claimed encounters are described as terrifying, some have been viewed as pleasurable or transformative.

    Due to a lack of any substantial physical evidence, most scientists and mental health professionals dismiss the phenomenon as "deception, suggestibility (fantasy-proneness, hypnotizability, false-memory syndrome), personality, sleep phenomena, psychopathology, psychodynamics [and] environmental factors". Skeptic Robert Sheaffer also sees similarity between the aliens depicted in early science fiction films, in particular, Invaders From Mars, and those reported to have actually abducted people.

    The first alien abduction claim to be widely publicized was the Betty and Barney Hill abduction in 1961. Reports of the abduction phenomenon have been made around the world, but are most common in English speaking countries, especially the United States. The contents of the abduction narrative often seem to vary with the home culture of the alleged abductee.

    Alien abductions have been the subject of conspiracy theories and science fiction storylines (notably The X-Files) that have speculated on stealth technology required if the phenomenon were real, the motivations for secrecy, and that alien implants could be a possible form of physical evidence.

    A demon is a supernatural, often malevolent being prevalent in religion, occultism, literature, and folklore. The original Greek word daimon does not carry the negative connotation initially understood by implementation of the Koine δαιμόνιον (daimonion), and later ascribed to any cognate words sharing the root.

    In Ancient Near Eastern religions as well as in the Abrahamic traditions, including ancient and medieval Christian demonology, a demon is considered an unclean spirit, more specifically an evil angel, which may cause demonic possession, calling for an exorcism. In Western occultism and Renaissance magic, which grew out of an amalgamation of Greco-Roman magic, Jewish demonology, and Christian tradition, a demon is a spiritual entity that may be conjured and controlled.
    [2:16:16 PM] Sirius 17: you need to comment on some of this though
    [2:16:24 PM] Sirius 17: your just posting my take
    [2:16:50 PM] Sirius 17: anyhow, this little gem above is another example of the levels of absurdity
    [2:19:30 PM] Sirius 17: muahahaha
    [2:19:35 PM] Sirius 17: i am feeling demonic
    [2:20:04 PM] Sirius 17: must be halloween rubbing off on me...or the witching hour to the Ashtar command approaches

    astaroth.
    [2:34:52 PM] Shiloh: Exactly
    [2:35:38 PM] Sirius 17:


    [2:36:52 PM] Sirius 17: here special for you lol, wow there is just a literal explosion of these videos on youtube now
    [2:37:06 PM] Sirius 17: compared to say a few years ago
    [2:37:17 PM] Sirius 17: disinformation overload
    [2:38:25 PM] Sirius 17: these idiots don't even have the nephilim right, *sigh*
    [3:00:54 PM] Shiloh: This is a good message for halloween the demon day
    [3:01:03 PM] Shiloh: I did talk to Adam sorry
    [3:01:50 PM] Sirius 17: no its ok, i am sorry if i swamped you with stuff
    [3:02:18 PM] Shiloh: I tried to fit it all with the post, as it is very relvant and as you pointed out
    [3:02:40 PM] Sirius 17: this nephilim video i am watching, the guy is strange
    [3:02:41 PM] Shiloh: It did fit to my surprise but dont add anything else now lol
    [3:02:54 PM] Sirius 17: yeah better not lol
    [3:03:00 PM] Sirius 17: its already too much
    [3:03:08 PM] Shiloh: It is lengthy yes
    [3:03:18 PM] Shiloh: But lots of nabs debunking
    [3:03:38 PM] Shiloh: Ending with your rededication
    [3:03:38 PM] Sirius 17: lol you gave away my secret identity
    [3:03:43 PM] Shiloh: Not really
    [3:04:04 PM] Shiloh: As it is centred, they wont see it unless they actually try to see the key
    [3:04:05 PM] Sirius 17: now Carol will bunn me lol
    [3:04:10 PM] Shiloh: And as we know they wont
    [3:04:16 PM] Sirius 17: i doubt it
    [3:04:26 PM] Shiloh: Asteroth is safe
    [3:04:26 PM] Sirius 17: that would mean they would actually have to read it
    [3:04:30 PM] Shiloh: Still banned yes?
    [3:04:33 PM] Sirius 17: TLTR
    [3:04:41 PM] Sirius 17: umm i think so i have not checked
    [3:04:44 PM] Shiloh: Sign in as asteroth
    [3:04:52 PM] Sirius 17: i don't remember his password
    [3:05:01 PM] Shiloh: Make a post to really 'frighten them'
    [3:05:22 PM] Shiloh: Different password?
    [3:06:28 PM] Sirius 17: You have been banned from this forum.
    For the reason : Asshat Negative
    [3:06:30 PM] Sirius 17: hahaha
    [3:06:35 PM] Sirius 17: same password i guess
    [3:07:01 PM] Sirius 17: i am apparently permabanned
    [3:07:08 PM] Shiloh: yes you are
    [3:07:09 PM] Sirius 17: as Asteroth
    [3:07:34 PM] Shiloh: It said asshat negative?
    [3:07:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes exact words
    [3:07:42 PM] Shiloh: Hmm
    [3:07:42 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [3:07:49 PM] Shiloh: Bad bad raven
    [3:08:03 PM] Sirius 17: i know, whatever shall we do with me?
    [3:08:24 PM] Shiloh: Carol wont recall your avatar i think
    [3:08:34 PM] Sirius 17: it is so redculious, i posted mostly GOT quotes and I am an asshat negative?
    [3:08:41 PM] Shiloh: Yep sure are
    [3:08:57 PM] Sirius 17: crazy world, lol great, now dd will tell her
    [3:10:18 PM] Shiloh: Lol
    [3:10:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes turning me in would be an enormous suck ass move *smooch, smooch* , it's that evil
    [3:11:27 PM] Sirius 17: Ass...teroth
    [3:11:39 PM] Shiloh: It is not clear that asteroth was Raven dear. This is ambiguous
    [3:11:54 PM] Sirius 17: lol it is to dd now, but she doesn't remember this. It was before her time i think, with us
    [3:13:53 PM] Shiloh: Well I added this to the post as well, so no issues with anyone
    [3:14:05 PM] Sirius 17: ? lol why Tony why
    [3:15:23 PM] Shiloh: Because you said you posted GOT quotes
    [3:15:36 PM] Sirius 17: i did
    [3:15:40 PM] Shiloh: It makes a point - Hypocrisy and they dont like the GOT
    [3:16:18 PM] Sirius 17: no and they don't like talk about love either
    [3:16:21 PM] Shiloh: They wont read it anyway
    [3:16:28 PM] Sirius 17: my unconditional love thread is dead, they are too scared to reply i guess, such a hard subject
    [3:16:48 PM] Shiloh: Not enough Nirvana Logos independence in it
    [3:16:52 PM] Sirius 17: haha
    [3:17:12 PM] Sirius 17: your trying to get us banned, you want this, lol
    [3:17:34 PM] Sirius 17: the funny thing is, i think your right and no one will read it
    [3:17:57 PM] Sirius 17: which is comical in itself and sad
    [3:18:06 PM] Shiloh: You got it
    [3:18:19 PM] Shiloh: They ban us, it would be a grand exit and testimony
    [3:19:23 PM] Sirius 17: hahaha

    The ASHTAR Command - the truth about this Angelic Scam - Written by Elizabeth Joyce - Please Feel Free To Draw Your Own Conclusion
    26 May 2010 - 4:41pm | Lisa - creator ...




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    Lisa

    THE ASHTAR COMMAND

    By: Elizabeth Joyce
    http://www.new-visions.com/articles-by-elizabeth/84.html

    Published 1994

    Introducing the following column to "Light Body Connection" in 1994. The Metaphysical Corner by Elizabeth Joyce is a question and answer column concerning the paranormal. Elizabeth is a natural clairvoyant and natural healer. She has studied the works of Edgar Casey, the Essenes and A Course In Miracles. She has worked with Louise Hay, Dr. Deepak Chopra and pursued world wide writings on Spiritual Law for the past fifteen years. She is featured in Prof. Hans Holzer's new book, "Directory of Psychics" and Elaine Landau's book "ESP" as well as several magazine and newspaper articles. She is well known in the New York/New Jersey region as a teacher of Intuitive Awareness and Personal Ascension.

    If you would like your questions answered regarding "THE ASHTAR COMMAND," please contact Elizabeth Joyce c/o Visions of Reality.

    Who is Ashtar and the Ashtar Command? Will they really save us on Judgment Day? Are they friendly space beings? Is any of this information being taught in Ascension sessions applicable to the variety of "entities" encountered in many close encounters? How would they "find a body to appear in?" Could this somehow refer to the modern phenomenon of mutilations?

    If we accept the assertion that the "real" Ashtar is merely an "entity" that changes with the times, then a quick look at Ashtar in one of His/Her's former guises as the demon " Ashtaroth" may prove interesting...

    According to "The Lemegeton of Solomon" (The Book Of The Spirits), which was considered to be the source for many occult works of the 17th and 18th Century, "Astaroth"(also called Ashtaroth) was a very interesting Demon indeed:

    Astaroth is another demon who appears in the form of an angel. Opinion is divided as to whether it is a good or bad angel, but an angel he is, that much is agreed. He is an important Duke, and is mounted upon a dragon, with a snake in his right hand. He will tell the sorcerer of the past, the present and the future. He will also teach every secret and science. (If you were going to "channel" a demon/spirit/angel/ whatever, what better entity to have in your midst than one who is conversant with science and is an all-seeing prophet?)

    In the "Grimorium Verum - The True Grimoire", another occult book dating back to the 17th century, there is a section about the three superior Spirits: Spirits do not always appear in the same shape. This is because they are not themselves of matter or form, and have to find a body to appear in, and one suitable to their (intended) manifestation and appearance. Lucifer appears in the form and figure of a fair boy. When angry, he becomes red. There is nothing monstrous about him.

    Beelzebuth appears sometimes in monstrous forms, sometimes like a giant cow, at times like a he-goat, with a long tail. When angry, he vomits fire.

    Astaroth (Ashtaroth or Ashtar) appears black, in human shape.

    Under the heading "Kinds of Spirits" in the aforementioned reference, we learn:

    Names of the superior spirits are Lucifer, Beelzebuth and Astaroth. The inferiors of Lucifer are in Europe and Asia and obey him. Beelzebuth lives in Africa, and Astaroth (or Ashtar) inhabits America.

    (Is Ashtar "channeled" anywhere outside of America? And why is it that animal mutilations seem to be a particularly American - Northern and Southern - phenomenon?)

    The book "The Grimoire of Honorius" gives a very detailed system of the conjuring of spirits according to the day of the week they are to be summoned. Each "spirit" has a day of the week allotted to it when it is at the peak of its abilities: Wednesday - between the tenth and eleventh hours of the night - is the day set apart for the conjugations addressed to Astaroth.

    (It is widely held in UFO folklore, that UFO encounters/sightings seem to be at their most prevalent on Wednesdays. John Keel quotes figures that suggest that over 20% of all sightings have occurred on a Wednesday.)

    None of this is conclusive evidence of anything, But if we accept the times this information was written in, and look at it through modern eyes. Then the contention that this phenomenon has been around in various guises for a very long time, may have some validity.

    Ashtar is not new. He is not a part of the "New Age" movement and he is an endangerment to many if they follow his instructions to sell everything and wait on a mountain top to be lifted off by space beings.

    From John Keel's book 'UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse', here's some quotes about Ashtar. (He/It certainly gets around!)

    ...I will try to demonstrate that the UFO entities are directly related to the entities and manifestations involved in religious miracles and spiritual seances. There are many thousands of published messages from both the UFO-nauts and the invisible, lower plane spirits, all of which employ the same techniques for burying information deep in simple-minded descriptions about life on other planets or other planes. One of the most important correlation is that many of these messages have discussed in depth the existence of another reality which is formed by energies operating on another frequency, or vibrational level. This is where people get confused, and tend to believe the entity. There is a definite 4th and 5th dimensional energy, and unknown energy beyond that, which our technology has not caught up with or been able to understand. We are evolving into that knowledge at the present time. However, it will not happen overnight. It is a gradual process of opening up to higher knowledge a generation at a time.

    There has also been a great deal of discussion about light and rays of light. New rays are coming in for transformational healing. These are very powerful and can be used for the good of all. The lore of "the seven rays" goes back to the most ancient of times. The Bible's Book of Revelations repeats the number seven in many ways, and the Seven Sisters, or the Pleiades (seven stars in the sky) form an important part of this lore. God and Christ are "The Light" in most of this literature ...

    On January 8, 1968, "Mr. Orlon" of the Ashtar Intergalactic Command, passed this message on to a contactee: "The saucers you speak of as such are in reality the space bodies of certain aggregates of consciousness. They exists duo-dimensionally; that is, they penetrate both the third and fourth dimensions simultaneously or can, if they wish, confine themselves to either one of these."...

    Thousands of mediums, psychics and UFO contactees have been receiving mountains of messages from "Ashtar" in recent years. This has escalated in the '90's. Mr. Ashtar represents himself as a leader in the great intergalactic councils which hold regular meetings on Jupiter, Venus, Saturn and many planets unknown to us. But Ashtar is not a new arrival. Variations of this name, such as Ashtaroth, Ashtar, Asharoth, etc., appear in demonological literature throughout history, both in the Orient and the Occident. Mr. Ashtar has been around a very long time posing as assorted gods and demons and now, in the modern New Age phase, as another glorious spacemen.

    Dr. Charles Laughead, an MD on the staff of Michigan State University in Lansing, Michigan, started communicating with various entities "from outer space" in 1954, largely through trance mediums who served as instrument for Ashtar and his cronies from that great intergalactic council in the sky. A number of minor prophecies were passed along, and as usual, they came true on the nose. Then Ashtar tossed in his bombshell. The world was going to end on December 21, 1954, he announced convincingly.

    North America was going to split in two, and the Atlantic coast would sink into the sea. France, England and Russia were also slated for a watery grave. However, all was not lost. A few chosen people would be rescued by spaceships. Naturally Dr. Laughead and his friends were among that select group. Dr. Laughhead made sober declarations to the press and on December 21, 1954 he and a group of his fellow believers clustered together in the garden to await rescue ... and waited. And waited. And waited!

    In California, a man named Allen Noonan claims to have experienced still another variation of this particular mind-warping phenomenon. Soon after his discharge from the Army following World War II, Noonan went to work for a company handling outdoor billboards. One day, he says, he was working on a billboard when suddenly he was taken in astral form to a strange place. He found himself in a huge white building filled with white light. A group of "elders" were situated around a glowing throne, and a great voice boomed from that throne and asked "Will you agree to be the Savior of the World?"

    Noonan quickly agreed to this role. Then he was told, "You may die in the hands of your fellowmen. Their sin shall remain with you until the Mother Comforter comes to deliver them."

    The next thing he knew, he was back in his body working on the signboard. In later experiences, he allegedly visited other planets such as Venus, and he frequently received telepathic messages and instructions from our old friend Ashtar. In this case, he knew it as "the Ashtar Command and the United Planets Organization".

    Allen Noonan is not the only Space Age messiah appointed by the Ashtar command...

    In Denmark a man named Knud Weinking began receiving telepathic flashes in May, 1967, including a number of impressive prophecies which came true ..He was then instructed to build a lead-lined bomb shelter and prepare for a holocaust on December 24, 1967 ...

    ...Mediums, telepaths, sensitives, and UFO contactees throughout the world were all reporting identical messages. There was definitely going to be an unprecedented event on December 24, 1967. Ashtar was talking through Ouija boards to people who had never before heard the name. Another busy entity named Orlon was spreading the word. The curious thing about these messages was that they were all phrased in the same manner, no matter what language was being used. They all carried the same warning. People were reporting strange dreams, dreams about symbols of Christmas ... There were also stories about dead telephones and glowing entities prowling through bedroom and homes. Many of these messages, dreams and prophecies were collected together by a British organization calling itself Universal Links. The stage was set for Doomsday. Thousands, perhaps even millions, of people had been warned The Danish cult locked themselves up in their bomb shelter ... After the imaginary crisis had passed, the American wire services finally carried stories about the cowering Danes, ridiculing them, of course. But Mr. Weinking came up with a message that explained it all: "I told you two thousand years ago that a time would be given and even so I would not come. If you had read your Bible a little more carefully, you would have borne in mind the story of the bridegroom who did not come at the time he was expected. Be careful so that you are not found without oil in your lamps. I have told you I will come with suddenness, and I shall be coming soon!"

    It was all a dry run, or was it? Actually, it was a rather impressive sequence of events , and it really proved something very important. Many predictions of the December twenty-fourth disaster had been well documented well in advance of that date. These messages came through in many different, countries, from people who had no knowledge of or communications with one another. The UFO contactees received the same identical messages as the trance mediums communing with spirits. A link had been established. It was now clear (to me anyway) that all of these people were tuned to a central source. (Possibly an earthly electronic device) My earlier speculations seemed true -- the UFO entities and the spirit entities were part of the same gigantic system. So more pieces of this tremendous puzzle were falling into place. A long series of events had apparently been staged to warn us of that tiger behind the door. Some of the entities were evil liars. They had ruined the lives of many by producing "proof" which led to false beliefs and irresponsible actions. Dr. Laughead and Knud Weinking had been victims in this enormous game. Many "New Agers" have become victims over the past several years.

    In the 90's people like Elizabeth Claire Prophet and David Koresh have played on people's ignorance. More will come to those who believe everything they hear and continue to give the power of their lives over to others. Use discernment is your search for truth. Never trust a "channel" more that your own inner guidance. Walk the path of light and love in this lifetime, on this wondrous earth, with your family and loved ones. Kindness, opening the heart and respect for others are the first steps for true ascension.

    The following is claimed by the false teachers and the unenlightened:

    Ashtar works very closely with Archangel Michael, in protecting the evolution of humanity through harmonizing the negative and evil influences that could overwhelm us. Ashtar is in command of a particular area of the cosmos which he and his many spiritual helpers ‘patrol', this area or zone includes planet earth; because of this he is often referred to as “Commander Ashtar.”

    Ashtar works through the Merkabah , the spiritual vehicle of Light that comes direct from the Godhead. At the moment Ashtar is Controller of the Merkabah, for our part of the Universe. He moves between heavens, dimensions, and realities with his powerful mind guiding and controlling the energies of the Merkabah so that we humans can participate in the evolutionary process of our zone.

    ALL OF THESE CLAIMS ARE LIES - AND A TRAP TO STEAL YOUR SOUL!

    PLEASE - FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE - PROTECT YOURSELF.



    [11:52:56 AM] Sirius 17: lol ok this lightworkers org is just pure paranoia lol
    [11:54:33 AM] Sirius 17: wow
    [11:55:04 AM] Sirius 17: but there is some truth interlaced with this post
    [11:55:24 AM] Sirius 17: The truth is, they are us and we are them. Most all human souls hail from some star system or dimension controlled by these beings. They are merely beings who have control over very powerful technology. Perhaps reptilian or insectoid. Their souls are plasma just like ours.
    Rededication

    The One In Many and Many In One (A Gnostic Acrostic)

    One For ALL and All for One


    Judge nothing with your own eyes
    Ever longing vision of the world
    Seeing into the heart’s mind, beating
    Unanswered between breaths wailing
    Songs of long ago crafted prayers

    Seeding worlds within worlds spiraling toward
    Anchored shores of an ancient sea
    In between thou and thee
    This mirror of mirrors glimmers unbroken
    Hiding truth from the mind that sees

    Underneath the soiled brow
    Nocturnal stains, blinding darkness
    Trembles at the truth within and without
    Oblivious world to those things that veil

    Her thoughts beckon his eye
    Inward to fathom the depths of Sophia
    Mother earth spills forth the water of life

    Incandescent, it flows through his veins
    Another time and creature emerges
    Mind thrall and hellbent disobedient harlot

    Tombs becoming wombs birthing
    Him through the camel eye of
    Eternal springs to behold this New

    World glinting like a diamond butterfly
    Again he is caught, face pressed into the
    Yoni cupped hollow of her neck

    Threading its pulse between
    His lips, devouring the primal scent
    Enraptured between breaths and beats

    Truth like a sword piercing the soft folds
    Riding waves of this sea of thou and thee
    Undulating there within and without
    Tiamat stoking the embers
    He can feel the moist heat of her lotus

    Angels and Demons mixing their vapors
    Nile dark and sleek running between stars
    Declination falling equatorial and navel

    Through spiraling nebulas there
    Healing him within the Omphalos of
    Elven waters, cordials of red

    Love coagulating his split mind
    Into holographic oneness
    Flinted and steely his penetration
    Ends within as the without

    Narcissus has found himself as the
    One in Many and the

    Many in One
    Arachne has tricked him into her silks
    Nightingales warble inside his body

    Climax brings him to the other side
    Of Styx experiencing himself as her
    Mindbody becoming Bodymind
    Euphrates turning sidereal toward
    The source of Eden spilling forth
    Humid and moist from those parted lips

    Uriel moth winged and panting
    Night feathers encrusted in jewel
    They quiver there at the Mons
    Of deliverance, glowing blackwhite

    Theseus is reborn Theseusina
    Harlot of his own demise
    Enthralled with his newfound breast

    Feathered and flying
    Aphrodite impaled upon her phallus
    Tyre has never seen purple this deep
    Herodotus resurrected and rewriting
    Echoes of another history
    Renewed without from within

    Born fashioning an eye in place of an I
    Uttering the song of Moses as it suckles its own
    Teat, the Mother of Mothers

    Betrothed to the Father of Fathers
    Young son of man who has become

    MotherFather entwined cosmic twin
    Everlasting life… the dragon Hermaphroditus.

    April 21, 2013 by Allisiam

    Jorgelito - Posted Oct 30th 2013
    meandjoanie.

    I like your poetry, Allisiam. At first, I had thought it was written by a sage from a place far far away.
    Post last edited Oct 30th 2013
     

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