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Re: CROP CIRCLES/FORMATIONS 2015

shiloh Today at 5:57 pm
mudra wrote: Regarding the Turin crop circle





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Indeed mudra; this Italian decoder I getting his intuitions right in associating many cropcircles with actual ephemerides factual data conjunctions without reading too much nabs into them.
I have added more detail on the Holland crop circle another decoder addressed and whom Carol introduced.
Anyone really interested in the encoding patterns, which mostly incorporate timeline data astrology-astronomy associated, should see the self evidence of the Oudenbosch/Holland crop circle series dating April 28th, 2015 to June 4th, 2015.

Note the nice effort from Anu Proph and the nabsey nonsense from Mr. Cati, trying to give meaningful interpretations to that crop circle addressed.

Carol wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nnz9vVg7J8​

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This is a commendable effort to decode the Oudenbosch cropcircle in Holland Carol and the decoder Anu Proph did a fine job in attempting to place logic before the all too pervasive fear mongering engaged in by both mainstream and alternative media alike.

The decoder has appropriately zoomed into the year 2011 as somehow being important for the ET-Contact-Information agendas. He has also applied a sound analysis to derive the mathematical factor of 4.2 and a 'weekly scale', but has misinterpreted the circle sizes for the approach and retreat of an extra solar orb.
This 'extra orb' has also been described as 'Vulcan' or a innermost planet orbiting the Sun in the scientific history not too far in the past.
'Nibiru' is simply the 'archetyped' or symbolic (yet energized by the thoughtforms of the perceivers) 'Planet of fulfilling prophecy' and the realisation of encoding patterns (prophecies); often dating back millennia of years.
The 'orb of destruction' or darkness is the 'Wormwood' of the 'Apocalypse' and is also the 'Blue Star of Hope Kachina' as mentioned here by Bob.

Anu Proph has however misunderstood the simplicity of the crop circle geometry in superimposing this 'Nibiruan X-Planet' onto that geometrical schematic.
This crop circle simply counts all the conjunctions of the year 2011 and constructs this in a 'Spiral Maze' with the dynamical motion of Mercury in 2011 then allowing its direct and reversed motions to divide the spiral into 4 year based sections mirroring and containing the days of 2011 within it as the 'Year of the Beginnings' of the 'Final Dispensations' to allow a 'New World' to become born and emerge from the ashes of an 'Old World'.
This crop circle actually simply describes the year 2011 as the starting point of a 7-year period ending in 2018 and in concordance with the 70 years from the end of the second world war in 1945 and the atomic warfare, Roswell and the UFO scenarios and the discovery of certain previously mentioned ET scrolls known as the 'Dead Sea Scrolls' of Israel-Qumran and the Egyptian artifacts from Nag Hammadi.

The Nibiru planet of Anu Proph is simply the planet Mercury and as he has correctly positioned in some of his diagrams as the planet travelling along the spiral construction.
That the supposed 'red bigger planet' Nibiru is also Mercury, can be simply ascertained in looking at the original crop circle and noticing that 'quasi Nibiru' unwinds from a say stationary position aligned with Venus, the Earth-Moon system and Mars to the right in alignment.
So there will be no planetary 'invasion' on or about November 7th and the completion of 2015; although the video shared does correctly describe the year 2015 as a sort of 'changeover' nexus date.
Namely 2015 represents the mirror timezone in a 7-8 year period spanning from the start of 2011 to the end of 2018.
Many detailed charts and diagrams vcan be found on this website and elsewhere, but I have added some commentary onto the original cropcircle photo shared below for some extra detail.

As the Thuban council created this crop circle, I should know that the decoding descriptor below correctly presents the nature and detail and purpose for this crop circle.

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Daniel 12 - King James Version (KJV)
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


Revelation 11:1-4 - KJV
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


Revelation 12 12:1-6 - King James Version (KJV)
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.



Revelation 13:5
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Luke 4:25 - KJV
But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

Jonah 1:17 - KJV
Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Matthew 12:40 - KJV
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Daniel 9:27 - King James Version (KJV)
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

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Re: CROP CIRCLES/FORMATIONS 2015

mudra Today at 6:01 pm

Thank You Shiloh.
I highly appreciate you posting on other's thread lately

Love from me
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Re: CROP CIRCLES/FORMATIONS 2015

shiloh Today at 11:06 am
TRANCOSO wrote:

mudra wrote:

Thank You Shiloh.
I highly appreciate you posting on other's thread lately

Love from me
mudra
So do I.



Your beneficient comments are appreciated Mudra and Trancoso.
The reason for this 'cross-sharing' rests on the convergence of the ET timelines in the 30 days from June 16th, 2015 to July 16th, 2015 with the midpoint of July 1st to 2nd specifying two 15 day 'honeymoons' for two sides in the 7-8 year timezone specified by the ET-Logos to introduce the 'Changing of the Guard' in the 'Cosmic Incubation Zone' also known as the 'Quarantined Earth'.

Then the open sharing of this Crop Circle series from the Netherlands, inclusive of its speculative and authoritative decoding descriptors, also serves a particular agenda within the grander ET context of the 'old times' to 'new times' transformation.

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Venus and Jupiter Create Breathtaking “Double Star” on June 30th
Shared by B. Maat on FB​

By: The Editors of Sky Telescope | June 28, 2015​

Contacts:
Kelly Beatty, Senior Editor, Sky & Telescope
617-864-7360 x22168, kbeatty@SkyandTelescope.com
Alan MacRobert, Senior Editor, Sky & Telescope
617-864-7360 x22151, amacrobert@SkyandTelescope.com

After weeks of gliding closer together in the evening sky, Venus and Jupiter, the brightest celestial objects after the Sun and Moon, will be dramatically close together in the western sky after sunset on Tuesday, June 30th. According to Sky & Telescope magazine, as seen from North America, the two planets will be just ¹⁄₃° apart — so close together that you'll be able to cover them both with the tip of an outstretched little finger.

"To the eye they'll look like a double star," says S&T Senior Editor Kelly Beatty. "Anyone who hasn't glanced at the evening sky for a while will be surprised by how dramatically tight the pairing is." The two planets spend eight evenings, from June 27th through July 4th, within 2° of each other (about a thumb's width at arm's length). Not far to their upper left, appearing much fainter, is Regulus, the alpha star in the constellation Leo.

Astronomers refer to such a celestial convergence as a conjunction. Close pairings of Venus and Jupiter are not particularly rare, however. They appeared slightly closer together (though not as high up) before dawn on August 18, 2014, and they'll be separated by about 1° before dawn on the morning of October 26th. During a remarkable conjunction on May 17, 2000, Venus and Jupiter were just 0.01° apart (but too near the Sun to be seen). Next year, on August 27th, they'll dazzle again during an evening conjunction with a separation of just 0.1°.

"Planetary conjunctions have no effect on Earth or human affairs," notes Sky & Telescope Senior Editor Alan MacRobert. "But they can draw attention away from our own little world and into the enormous things beyond. In fact, a spectacular conjunction like this often gets people started in amateur astronomy."
At the beginning of June, the two planets were 20° apart in the sky, about twice the width of your fist held at arm's length. Week by week, Jupiter and the stars behind it have gradually slipped lower in the evening twilight. But Venus, due to its rapid orbital motion around the Sun, has stayed high up. The resulting slow-motion convergence put them 6° last week, when a thin crescent Moon joined the scene, and set the stage for Tuesday's culmination.

Although the two planets appear very near one another in the sky, they're actually not. Venus is 58 million miles (77 million km) from Earth, and Jupiter is 12 times farther out at 565 million miles (909 million km).

The pairing on June 30th is so tight that a small backyard telescope will show both planets in the same field of view, with Venus appearing as a brilliant, fat crescent and Jupiter accompanied by its four largest moons. Telescopically, the two planets will appear identical in size — a coincidental illusion because Jupiter, though much farther away, is enormously larger than Venus. The two globes will contrast dramatically in brightness, with Venus's crescent appearing dazzlingly white compared to Jupiter's duller, striped cloud deck.

Sky & Telescope Contributing Editor Fred Schaaf points out that this current trio of Venus-Jupiter conjunctions closely resembles a similar series in 3-2 BC that has been suggested as the Star of Bethlehem. "As has been the case in 2014–15," Schaaf explains, "the first two conjunctions back then were extremely close, the last one separated by about 1°, all three occurred not far from Regulus, and all were similarly high up in the sky."

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On the evening of June 30th, all eyes will be on Venus and Jupiter as they create a dramatic "double star" in the western sky after sunset. Click on this image for a high-definition version, or click here for a version without labels.
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Here's how Jupiter (at top) and Venus (at bottom) will look on June 30th when viewed with a backyard telescope. Jupiter's four moons, (left to right) are Ganymede, Europa, Io, and Callisto.
Source: Stellarium

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This relates to the topic of a 'Star of Bethlehem' aka a 'Messiah Star' aka a 'Blue Star Kachina'.
The ET minded reader and researcher can ignore the Oabs (religious and antireligious zealotry) and Nabs (emotional opinionated naivety), associated with the historical and topical debates regarding this subject matter and appreciate the headlines of media sharings such as (linked by Susan Lynne Schwenger):
http://osnetdaily.com/2015/06/the-prophetic-implications-of-the-messiahs-star-on-30-june-2015/

The Prophetic Implications of the Messiah’s Star on 30 June 2015​

Editor’s Note…
Read Velikovsky’s classic masterpiece “Worlds in Collision [PDF Link]” to get the subconscious mytho-hystorical background behind the significance of the recent convergence of Venus and Jupiter. Read also these earlier reports we published during the previous blood moons for further background on the subject:

• Decoding the lunar Tetrad prophecy: Blood Moon eclipse begins today
• Will MAVEN mission to Mars unravel the Easter Mystery?

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1913 Intel
The excerpt below is from an article written by Jim Dodge. Jim is an expert of the Star of Bethlehem. And now we will see the reappearance of the Bethlehem Star on 30 June 2015 – now called the Messiah’s Star.
“It should be obvious from the locations of these two appearances…that the 2015 appearance of the Messiah’s star is God’s heavenly sign of warning for America, because just like Israel when Jesus Christ came the first time, America has turned its back on the very God who made us great and showered us with blessings. Today, America has rejected God.”
“… this tetrad of eclipses might mean for Israel.”
Thoughts on the Prophetic Implications of the 2014-15 Blood Moon Tetrad with respect to Israel, the 30 June 2015 Appearance of the Messiah’s star with respect to the United States and the timing for these heavenly appearances in this Season of the Lord’s Return
As the prophetic signs pointing to the soon return of Christ and the incredibly fluid state of world affairs appears to be converging in climactic fashion to bring about the end of this age as we know it, I have been humbled and moved with a sense of urgency, like a Watchman on the wall, to share recent discoveries about the current and pending appearances of two of God’s heavenly signs and what they might mean today for Israel and America in God’s end time plan. While many in the Bible prophecy world are aware of the appearance of a tetrad of lunar eclipses falling on the 2014-15 Jewish feasts of Passover and Tabernacles, few have any idea of what significance, if any, this tetrad of eclipses might mean for Israel. This in part is because many, if not most, prophecy experts regard these stellar appearances as mere coincidence, especially since heavenly signs appear to have little basis in scripture to connect them with end time prophecy. Even fewer people are aware that a remarkably rare reappearance of the Christmas or Messiah’s star will take place on the evening of 30 June 2015 during what appears to be a critical point in America’s march towards its end-time destiny. Is the reappearance of this heavenly sign also just a coincidence that should be disregarded because it has not been specifically revealed in the Bible?
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Isaiah 66 - King James Version (KJV)

¹ For Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
² For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
³ He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
⁴ I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
⁵ Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

⁶ A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord that rendereth recompence to his enemies.
⁷ Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
⁸ Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
⁹ Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the Lord: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.
¹⁰ Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:
¹¹ That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.
¹² For thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.
¹³ As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
¹⁴ And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the Lord shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies.
¹⁵ For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

¹⁶ For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many.
¹⁷ They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord.
¹⁸ For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
¹⁹ And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.
²⁰ And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the Lord out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the Lord, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the Lord.
²¹ And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the Lord.
²² For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
²³ And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
²⁴ And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

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Re: CROP CIRCLES/FORMATIONS 2015

shiloh Today at 12:19 pm
mudra wrote:

shiloh wrote:

Your beneficient comments are appreciated Mudra and Trancoso.
The reason for this 'cross-sharing' rests on the convergence of the ET timelines in the 30 days from June 16th, 2015 to July 16th, 2015 with the midpoint of July 1st to 2nd specifying two 15 day 'honeymoons' for two sides in the 7-8 year timezone specified by the ET-Logos to introduce the 'Changing of the Guard' in the 'Cosmic Incubation Zone' also known as the 'Quarantined Earth'.

Then the open sharing of this Crop Circle series from the Netherlands, inclusive of its speculative and authoritative decoding descriptors, also serves a particular agenda within the grander ET context of the 'old times' to 'new times' transformation.


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A time to celebrate

Yes Shiloh there is a reason for each and every season ....

I have finely realized what this mean: there is a reason for each and every season, friends will come and go lovers may also but with every season God has his reason…

There is a reason, why we have each and every season. We maybe ware of the season why, but God knows his reason so please try not to ask the question why.

Maybe your new found friend will give you compassion, but your lover will give you a reason to move to a new level of love.

Your friend will give you sight and your lover will show you what is right.

Your friend will show you how to make your move, and your lover will show you how to be so smooth.

It is possible that the rule has changed and your lover will move you one way and your friend will remain the same.

It is up to you to know what will fit in your life, and how the reason works in your season.

Poem by Kimbaline Navas

Love from me
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And it is this human minded attitude, reflected in this line of your otherwise 'nice and gentle' poem mudra, which has kept the human evolution from planetary to cosmic understanding in a selfmade prison hitherto.

..."There is a reason, why we have each and every season. We maybe ware of the season why, but God knows his reason so please try not to ask the question why."...

A recent conversation with Serafina Zebulon aka Susan Exchanger addressed just this:

excerpt:
[4:37:46 PM-Wednesday, July 1st, 2015] susan lynne schwenger: and; it kind of comes at me fromt he front; but; goes around me in swirls
actually lifted me up out of my chair, like levitating

[4:38:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Whirlwind of Job

[4:39:07 PM] susan lynne schwenger: i got a bunch of branches; fruit - and; a cloak; the fruit tasted sour like olives and; the branches are etheric ones; they can be bent, almost like thorns
Who was job?

[4:42:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Job is the oldest introductory 'book or scroll' in the Torah/Bible. It tells you what the JOB for every soul is to do in incarnation.
JOB is you as a androgyne cosmic

[4:43:01 PM] susan lynne schwenger: ok; and; he had 7 sons and 3 daughters; so; it is poetic

[4:46:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes and all sons 'got killed' but his daughters inherited the New World SAFTER JOB successfully 'challenged' and questioned 'God'

[4:46:59 PM] susan lynne schwenger: so; it is like creating heaven and earth
[4:47:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: We wrote and published a detailed essay on this.
[4:47:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Heaven MUST be created from earth not vice versa
[4:47:34 PM] susan lynne schwenger: i have a zophar
[4:47:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There is no heaven and hell except the personal ones manmade
[4:48:21 PM] susan lynne schwenger: so; the parallel here, is me having it all - and; losing it
[4:48:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Nabs galore and your problem is discernment, though I see you are getting better at it - yes
[4:48:50 PM] susan lynne schwenger: and; as a scribe
[4:48:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You losing the old world means you CAN find the new one
[4:49:03 PM] susan lynne schwenger: i can get info from god - thru visions or dreams and to pass on to those who are searching for real knowledge - so; there spirals
[4:49:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You cant 'escape' the old unless you 'throw it away' in your mentality
[4:49:44 PM] susan lynne schwenger: are like information packs of info - whirl wind style

[4:50:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol define 'God' This is where the nabsers have lost it completely. Its not religion and its not atheism!

[4:50:36 PM] susan lynne schwenger: like having eyes - but; unable to see
[4:50:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You know that, but have thrown out the baby with the birth waters. Why you have this real 'antichrist' now in Islam.
[4:51:28 PM] susan lynne schwenger: the monster created by the catholic church
[4:51:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Not personas, but 'human modes of thinking and perceiving and interpreting'
[4:51:49 PM] susan lynne schwenger: do you think job was orig. written in some other language
[4:51:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Partially
[4:52:39 PM] susan lynne schwenger: so; it is about suffering
[4:52:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The Catholic church was the actual beginning of the remembrance. Its role was just to create the political acceptance and in its cosmic purpose.
But in terms of 'truth' there never was ANY 'true religion' since say 100AD and the Book of Revelation asa source book code for the future history.
No not suffering, but remembrance and a realisation of the importance of the body as a vessel for the soul
[4:54:44 PM] susan lynne schwenger: who was job the son of or; is he one of the 25 prophets
[4:54:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol Job is like Moses and Abraham
[4:55:08 PM] susan lynne schwenger: so; he is an archetype and not an actual being
[4:55:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They did NOT exist as personas but as archetypers. Many pharaohs were Moses; A Moses as in Ahmose and Thutmesis and Thutmose and Rameses

[4:55:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Indeed! YOU are JOB, I am Job, Tim is JOB. Now what we do from there? Can you play Job and find the truth about God and creation as per the ancient scripts?
[4:56:24 PM] susan lynne schwenger: yes
[4:56:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Most cannot and remain oblivious to even their OWN cosmic story
[4:56:49 PM] susan lynne schwenger: is there codes in the numbers of animals
[4:56:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: See the irony here?
[4:56:55 PM] susan lynne schwenger: yes, how many oxen in a yoke 2

[4:57:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The entire creation is a number code
[4:57:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 1 or 2 or 4 generally. The universe WAS MADE from algorithmic programs remember? The Fibonaccis!
[4:58:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But this program had to have 'Energy'
[4:58:36 PM] susan lynne schwenger: yes
[4:58:37 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: And this energy is what 'God' is and the programmer is Logos. The Big Bang was the 'Energy' becoming REAL as a physical energy, heat, nuclear, chemical biological etc
[4:59:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You Susan are BOTH! You are abstract in the 'hidden energy of the soul' AND you are physical energy THROUGH your bodyform and without the bodyform you have lost half of everything that you are
[5:00:20 PM] susan lynne schwenger: yes; ok; i see that
[5:00:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Good, there are a number of detailed essays on this on the forums; 'being dead' solves nothing but perpetuates the dilemma of the 'energy-divide'
But realising the cosmic truth and not some human opinionated 'truth' makes all the difference

[5:02:29 PM] susan lynne schwenger: Is the 2nd temple also the temple of solomon
[5:02:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The many gurus, whistleblowers and 'insiders' on the web all claim to search or know about that. No, it is the temple of Herod
[5:02:59 PM] susan lynne schwenger: from the old test. Was that also in the same spot as jers.
[5:03:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: the 1st temple did not exist in the encoded form in Kings in the OT - Sort of, the 3rd temple is the 1st temple encoded see?
The 2nd temple relates to the destruction of it in 70AD to engage the future timelines. The 3rd temple in construction constructs the New World.
[5:04:52 PM] susan lynne schwenger: i am persian in part of my lineages

[5:05:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This includes this New World AS your New World merkabah. Your old human lineages or speculations become irrelevant to the New Creation.
Your old bodyform must make way for your new bodyform. Its not a cyborg part biology and part robot either. It is part biology and part 'original energy' (spirit) however
[5:07:08 PM] susan lynne schwenger: i have dreams of this stuff and didn't know why it was important
[5:07:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes I would suspect and would have expected this. This stuff IS the New World

[5:07:59 PM] susan lynne schwenger: to the trumpeting place we go; i guess i should read the bible
[5:08:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No! Because it is a book from the ETs
[5:09:11 PM] susan lynne schwenger: i think i am going to try something; i am going to get altered
[5:09:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Unless you have a deep background in the cosmological ET context it is rather confusing and contradictory
[5:09:24 PM] susan lynne schwenger: and see if i can pull in the original et's who wrote it; i know i am here to channel something that has NEVER been channeled b4 on earth

[5:09:50 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: How much abuse and suffering has the bible caused by its zealots? Hehe yes good idea
[5:10:07 PM] susan lynne schwenger: almost all of it and; then with knowing nothing - i see what i get
[5:10:23 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I agree. Publish it too, whatever you get
[5:11:43 PM] susan lynne schwenger:And; i do it making sure i get 100% alignment with missions purposes and tasks in alignment with God; The Great Spirit.
And; see if i can work with my ancient wall of faces - they returned yesterday - 3;11 am; is a good time for making contact
[5:11:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Your heart of cosmic love is true with Abba yes. I always knew this since 2010
[5:12:01 PM] susan lynne schwenger: yes; immediately i see
[5:12:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The July 1st-July 16th, 2015 is a cosmic honeymoon of alchemical dragonomy
[5:13:08 PM] susan lynne schwenger: Camps of people - taking from people - lining their own pockets - and; the good will of the givers; not ending up 100% to the intended parties
Not exactly 'good intentions' more like 'good fleecing' that isn't good work
[5:13:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is not a question of giving and receiving but a question of sharing freely what is in your soul. You are here now to do just that
[5:13:34 PM] susan lynne schwenger: it is easy to give good work freely, since; if you are a good well; it gets refilled
[5:13:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: What we are doing; yes in times appropriate to the cosmic ET agendas

The JOB for Every Cosmic Man and Vitruvian Woman

The oldest book in the Torah (Old Testament in the Judeo-Christian Bible) is the 'Book of Job'.​

Its encoding represents the 'Great Dilemma' for the present cosmos to reconfigure itself in the redefinition of the old symbols and archetypes in new ones.
Can the 'authority' of the 'gods' become undermined by mere 'mortal human men and women'?
The following excerpts from Job and expositions shall allow the discerning reader to answer this question in the affirmative and show that the 'Birth of a New World' requires more than cocreating dreamtimers, might these be indigenous medicine women and shamanic composers or colonised 'playwrights', scriptwriters, producers and directors, say as filmmakers and as actors and actresses.

|MIRROR|

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Satan and God have a 'bet' or heavenly argument as to Job's resilience to curse God because of his misfortunes - God eventually wins the 'bet' after rebuking the 'humans' attempting to prevent Job's personal questioning (GNOSIS=WISDOM=CATHERINE=83) of God's purposes.

Job.1.6-12:
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, on that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Then Satan answered the Lord , and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is in creased in the land. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thy hand.
So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord."

And Job's seven sons were killed in the eldest brother's collapsing house in a great windstorm, his sheep and camels perished in fire and his servants were killed by invaders.

Job.1.20-22:
"Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground and worshipped,
And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither:
the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.
In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly."

Job.2.1-11:
"Again there was a day....
And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.
And he took him a potsherd to scape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes. Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity?
curse God and die.
But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh.
What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil?
In all this did not Job sin with his lips."

Three of Job's friends came to mourn with him; Eliphaz, Bildad and Zophar.
For seven days and nights they mourned in silence; after Job had cursed himself and his very existence, Eliphaz and Bildad reproved Job, arguing that he must have sinned against God to experience such great misfortunes.
Job replied his quest to be a search for understanding the works of the almighty, considering himself innocent of any wrong doings; Zophar then charges Job with mocking the almighty, and that the ways of the Lord can never be examined or found out by man.

Job.19.1-29:
"Then Job answered and said,
How long will you vex my soul, and break me in pieces with words?
These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that you make yourselves strange to me.
And be it indeed that I have erred, mine error remaineth with myself.
If indeed ye will magnify yourselves against me, and plead against me my reproach:
Know now that God hath overthrown me, and hath compassed me with his net.
Behold, I cry out of wrong, but I am not heard: I cry aloud, but there is no judgment.
He hath fenced up my way that I cannot pass, and he hath set darkness in my paths. He hath stripped me of my glory, and taken the crown from my head.
He hath destroyed me on every side, and I am gone: and mine hope hath he removed like a tree.
He hath also kindled his wrath against me, and he counteth me unto him as one of his enemies.
His troops come together, and raise up their way against me, and encamp round about my tabernacle.
He hath put my brethren far from me, and mine acquaintance are verily estranged from me.
My kinsfolk have failed, and my familiar friends have forgotten me.
They that dwell in mine house, and my maids, count me for a stranger: I am an alien in their sight.
I called my servant, and he gave me no answer; I intreated him with my mouth.
My breath is strange to my wife, though I intreated for the children's sake of mine own body.
Yea, young children despised me; I arose, and they spake against me.
All my inward friends abhorred me; and they whom I loved are turned against me.
My bone cleaveth to my skin and to myflesh, and I am escaped with the skin of my teeth.
Have pity upon me, have pity upon me, O my friends; for the hand of God hath touched me.
Why do you persecute me as God, and are not satisfied with my flesh?
Oh that my words were now written! oh that they were printed in a book!
That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever!
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy my body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
But ye should say, Why persecute we him, seeing the root of the matter is found in me?
Be ye afraid of the sword: for wrath bringeth the punishments of the sword, that ye may know there is a judgment."

Job.22.1-5:
"Then Eliphaz the Temanite answered (Job) and said,
Can a man be profitable unto God, as he that is wise may be profitable unto himself?
Is it any pleasure to the Almighty, that thou are righteous? or is it gain to him, that thou makest thy ways perfect?
Will he reprove thee for fear of thee? will he enter with thee into judgment?
Is not thy wickedness great? and thine iniquities infinite?"

Job.25.1-6:
"Then answered Bildal the Shuhite, and said,
Dominion and fear are with him, he maketh peace in his high places.
Is there any number of his armies? and upon whom doth not his light arise?
How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?"

Job.26.1-14:
"But Job answered and said, How hast thou helped him that is without power?
how savest thou the arm that hath no strength?
How hast thou counselled him that hath no wisdom?
and how hast thou plentifully declared the thing as it is? To whom hast thou uttered words? and whose spirit came from thee?
Dead things are formed from under the waters, and the inhabitants thereof.
Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds; and the cloud is not rent under them.
He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it.
He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.
The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.
He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud.
By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him?
but the thunder of his power who can understand?"

Job.27.1-12:
"Moreover Job continued his parable, and said,
As God liveth, who hath taken away my judgment; and the Almighty, who hath vexed my soul;
All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;
My lips shall not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit.
God forbid that I should justify you: till I die I will not remove mine integrity from me.
My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach me so long as I live.
Let mine enemy be as the wicked, and he that riseth up against me as the unrighteous.
For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he has gained, when God taketh away his soul?
Will God hear his cry when trouble cometh upon him?
Will he delight himself in the Almighty? will he always call upon God?
I will teach you by the hand of God: That which is with the Almighty will I not conceal.
Behold, all ye yourselves have seen it; why then are ye thus altogether vain?"

Job.28.28:
"And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding."

Job.31.35-36:
"Oh that one would hear me! behold, my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book.
Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me."

Job.32.1-3:
"So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes.
Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God.
Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job."

Job.32.6-10:
"And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opionion.
I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
Great man are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.
Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew you mine opinion."

Job.33.3-6:
"My words shall be of the uprightness of my heart: and my lips shall utter knowledge clearly.
The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
If thou canst answer me, set thy words in order before me, stand up.
Behold, I am according to thy wish in God's stead: I also am formed out of the clay."

Job.33.12-16:
"Behold, in this you art not just: I will answer thee, that God is greater than man.
Why dost thou strive against him? for he giveth not account of any of his matters.
For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;
Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,"

Job.33.31-33:
"Mark well, O Job, hearken unto me: hold thy peace, and I will speak.
If thou hast any thing to say, answer me: speak, for I desire to justify thee.
If not, hearken unto me: hold thy peace, and I shall teach thee wisdom."

Job.34.5-15:
"For Job hath said, I am righteous: and God hath taken away my judgment.
Should I lie against my right? my wound is incurable without transgression.
What man is like Job, who drinketh up scorning like water?
Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men.
For he hath said, It profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself with God.
Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.
For the work of a man shall he render unto him, and cause every man to find according to his ways.
Yea, surely God will not do wickedly, neither will the Almighty pervert judgment.
Who hath given him a charge over the earth? or who hath disposed the whole world?
If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath;
All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust."

Job.34.33-37:
"Should it be according to thy mind? he will recompense it, whether you refuse, or whether thou choose; and not I: therefore speak what thou knowest.
Let men of understanding tell me, and let a wise man hearken unto me.
Job hath spoken without knowledge, and his words were without wisdom.
My desire is that Job may be tried unto the end because of his answers for wicked men.
For he addeth rebellion unto his sin, he clappeth his hands among us, and multiplieth his words against God."

Job.35.13-16:
"Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.
Although thou sayest thou shalt not see him, yet judgment is before him; therefore trust thou in him.
But now, because it is not so, he hath visited in his anger; yet he knoweth it not in great extremity:
Therefore doth Job open his mouth in vain; he multiplieth words without knowledge."

Job.36.1-5:
"Elihu also proceeded, and said,
Suffer me a little, and I will shew thee that I have yet to speak on God's behalf.
I will fetch my knowledge from afar, and will ascribe righteousness to my Maker.
For truly my words shall not be false; he that is perfect in knowledge is with thee.
Behold, God is mighty, and despiseth not any: he is mighty in strength and wisdom."

Job.36.21-26:
"Take heed, regard not iniquity: for this hast thou chosen rather than affliction.
Behold, God exalteth by his power: who teacheth like him?
Who hath enjoined him his way? or who can say, Thou hast wrought iniquity?
Remember that thou magnify his work, which men behold.
Every man may see it; man may behold it far off.
Behold, God is great, and we know him not, neither can the number of his years be searched out."

Job.37.7-8:
"He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work.
Then the beasts go into dens, and remain in their places."

Job.37.14-24:
"Hearken onto this , O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God.
Dost thou know when God disposed them, and caused the light of his cloud to shine?
Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
How thy garments are warm, when he quieteth the earth by the south wind?
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?
Teach us what we shall say unto him; for we cannot order our speech by reason of darkness.
Shall it be told him that I speak? if a man speak, surely he shall be swallowed up.
And now men see not the bright light which is in the clouds: but the wind passeth, and cleanseth them.
Fair weather cometh out of the north: with God is terrible majesty.
Touching the Almighty, we cannot find him out: he is excellent in power, and in judgment, and in plenty of justice: he will not afflict.
Men do therefore fear him: he respecteth not any that are wise of heart."


Job.38.1..-41:
"Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Who is that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.


Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
{We were next to you, at your left side and watched you do it, taking notes!}


Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
{The measure is the Planck-Length oscillation, macroquantised into your own eigenwavelength Lps}


Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof?
{The unification of gravity with electromagnetism, the corner stone being the EMMR}


...Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
{Yes, we have explored the deep seas/subconscious in submarines and been to the moon}


Have the gates of death been opened to thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?
{Yes, our Beloved(s) are on the 'other side' in Abraham's bosom - Luke.16:19-31}


Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.

{We know for about 300 years now, that the earth is an oblate spheroid and not flat, with an equatorial diameter of so 40,000 kilometres in 4D spacetime}


Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof?
{Light in your terms is the W*-state of energy in transformation, darkness the B*-state}


That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
{The bound is the VPE and the pathways are the UFoQR in the magnetic monopoles}


Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?
{We are as old as you are, namely 19.11 Billion years Gregorian}


Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail, which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?...
Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who has gendered it?
{We understand the icecold fire of the New Jerusalem to be your piercing intellect and the hailstones of your 'talents' (Rev.16.21) to be omniscientific facts and definitions in your modular duality}


Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
{We know the constellations to be superpositions of many stars at various distance scales; individual stars follow stellar evolutionary cycles, their influences being psychological inferences acting directly upon magnetopolic fields in the pentagonally defined DNA helix and drawing upon the historical archetypes, which created the mappings in the sky out of the starhuman mind}


Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
{The ancient science of Astrology is a direct mapping of the Israelite generations of Jacob, also redefined in 12 apostles, 12 hours, 12 months and the 12 stars upon the crown of the ascended 'Mary' rebirthing the ChristChild by the 'Holy Ghost' in Revelation.12.
The zodiacal dominion is like a curse on humanity, finding itself bondage to certain archetypical characteristics until the 13th starsign of Arachne/Ophiuchus can unify all of the 12 in a 13th in the 'swallowing of the tail by the head' by the cosmic serpent Ourobos, who is the zodiacal wheel}


...Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?
Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?
Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,...
{Weather patterns depend on the equilibrium systems of the terrestrial and solar cyclicities.
Atmospheric air currents and oceanic water currents are influenced by the magnetic currents of the solar wind and even galactic phenomna, subject to pressure fluctuations, which can be caused by terrestrial magma currents, blending fire, heat convection and earth-telluric currents.
Influencing such pressure gradients in temperature and energy, say through the VPE would reduce the randomness (defined in statistical distributions) in weather patterns to a degree, but the mathematical order, as defined through your own selfdefinition always engages complexity- and chaos theory with its parameters.
The whirlwinds or tornadoes as the 'bottles of heaven' are macroquantised manifestations of the VPE, thus the negation of a tornadoes 'eye' as a vortex-sink is a vortex-source, also macroquantised from the Vacuum.
The notion of wisdom gained is linked to experiences, either directly or as observer.
Once your children have experienced enough of your 'dark satanic' side, then they may have enough wisdom to know what works in their society and what does not. They are repeating the same old formulae of war, financial monopoly and educated lordship over and over again and seem to be too intellectually inert to change their perceptions, unwilling to experience your 'light' side of love, undertanding, tolerance and a devotion to harmonies in the mass senses.
That is where the heart comes in, there is an understanding of the heart which can challenge the reluctance of the head-intellect to change anything.
This heart-level or gnosis derives from your own soul, that is your own collective experience as all of us as your human children in particular and all that exists in general.
So remembrance or a love and communication with you automatically engages the collective starhuman heart and that is the true wisdom, because it cannot deceive, as the human mind can.}"


Job.39.9-12:
"Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thoe trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave your labour to him?
Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?"
{The Unicorn is the 'protector of the Virgin Mother' giving birth to the ChristChild within every man and woman of the dragonomies; it is symbolised by Jacob's and Zilpah's son Gad and the starsign of Virgo under which John the Baptist was born; its strength is the Centaur of Chiron and the myths which go with that identification.
The Unicorn only serves the 'unified' humanity as a monosong of two in one in two; so it will bring home our seed, provided our hearts and minds are willing to become a new starhuman race of Rainbow Dragons}.



Job.40.1-..24:
"Moreover the Lord answered Job, and said,
Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.

Then Job answered the Lord, and said,
"Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further."

Then answered the Lord unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
"Gird up thy loins now like a man: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
Wilt thou also disannul my judgment?
wilt thou condemn me, that you mayest be righteous?
Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?....
Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in his place.
Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass, as an ox.
Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
His bones are as strong pieces of brass; ...He is the chief of the ways of God:
he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him..... Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares."


Job.41.1-..34:
"Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook?...He beholdeth all high things:
he is a king over all the children of pride."


Job.42.1-7:
"Then Job answered the Lord, and said,
I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be witholden from thee.
Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath."


Job.42.12-17:
"So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep (before 7,000), and six thousand camels (before 3,000), and a thousand yoke of oxen (before 500), and a thousand she asses (before 500).
He had also seven sons and three daughters.
And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch.
And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.
So Job died, being old and full of days."

Genesis 15:16
But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
Exodus 20:5
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:7
Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
Numbers 14:18
The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
Deuteronomy 5:9
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
2 Kings 10:30
And the Lord said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart, thy children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel.
2 Kings 15:12
This was the word of the Lord which he spake unto Jehu, saying, Thy sons shall sit on the throne of Israel unto the fourth generation. And so it came to pass.


Genesis 6:1-3

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.


Job is every man and his job is to answer God's questions for humanity as hisher children.
"Are they grown up yet? Are they ready for the next step forward to claim their inheritances? As long as they fear me as a punishing supernatural deity, they cannot advance."
One 'fears' God in respectfulness, like parents should have the respect of their children.
Once the children can answer the questions regarding the creation-business, then they must have the intellectual understanding, if not the wisdom from the heart, to advance into the starhuman potential promised to all of them since the days of Abraham and purposed for that since the beginning of time.
Job as Adam as 'Name Your Cosmic Self' and as 'Man', is told to 'gird up his loins' and act like a grown-up man - a StarMan, a Dragon as a Bluey or a Purple Queen.

In-deed in mentality and in physicality and the 'Spirit of the 'Emeth' of the Twin-Logos of all Worlds, it is not!

Shiloh, October 18th, 2013​

A detailed expose of the agenda and purpose of the 'Book of Job' is here mudra. As this poem of yours raises a deeper philosophical and existential question than is the topic of trancosos's crop circle thread, I will copy it to the Thuban Factuals forum.



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mudra Today at 7:01 pm


Thank you Shiloh. You are quite right I was being nice and gentle not really posting that poem for deeper reflections.
Looking back at it though I think Kimbaline Navas got a glimpse in that particular experience of hers of the vastness
of coming into the know/Now in contrast to the focus of looking for reasons why.
One belongs to the nature of Consciously Being where one welcomes the seasons with no reason
while the other pertains to the mind constructs that questions them.

That's what I liked about it

Isn't that what our job is all about ? RealEyes what Life is all about and how Consciousness fits in the great scheme ?

I agree with you this discussion would fit best in another thread.

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THEeXchanger Today at 12:29 pm
Today marks the 26th time a Leap Second will be added to the calendar.

In the second half of the 20th century, we started tracking time via atomic clocks,
which happen to be more accurate and precise than the rotating Earth itself
— our technology was better at keeping time than our planet was.

This crossover allowed us to notice that Earth’s rotation rate is, in fact, slowing down.

The primary culprit here is the Moon, whose tidal forces on Earth create friction between the sloshing oceans
and our north-south coastlines.

In response, the Moon’s orbit is spiraling away from Earth at a rate of about 2-inches (4cm) per year.

Such is the layout of this cosmic ballet — choreographed by the forces of gravity.

Several other factors also influence Earth’s rotation, but can serve to either slow us down or speed us up.

In all cases it involves the re-distribution of mass on Earth’s surface, changing our planets rotation properties.

These includes the freezing and melting of glaciers, mass migrations of animals, the buildup of new dams, and earthquakes.

Three ways to accommodate this fact:

1) Ignore it altogether.

2) Redefine the length of the Second, as necessary, to keep the total number of seconds the same, no matter the length of the day.

Or

3) intermittently add “leap” seconds to compensate.

If we did (1) then eventually, clock time will not make sense relative to what the Sun is doing.

If we did (2) then all the measurements that now depend on the precise definition of the second would be cast into flux.

So we choose option (3).

Beginning in 1972, on June 30 or December 31 (or both) we’ve added 25 leap seconds, as necessary.

Today is such a day.

Beginning in 1972, on June 30 or December 31 or both, we’ve added 25 leap seconds, as necessary.

Today is such a day.

Leap Seconds appear in the final minute of the last hour of today, Greenwich Time.

For the Eastern Time Zone (North America) this corresponds to 7:59 PM.

That minute will have 61 seconds in it.

Something I’ve celebrated each time with a very tiny bottle of champagne.

Whatever you do, don’t waste it.

As always, Keep looking up.

-Neil deGrasse Tyson,

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Knoll Down, Nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 29th June 2015

http://cropcircleconnector.com/2015/knolldown/knolldown2015.html

The Magic of Six (6) seen & Six (6) unseen

~ Susan Lynne Schwenger​

New York City

30 JUNE 2015
June 30th, 2015
Signs: Historic 'Star of Bethlehem' Reappears for First Time in Over 2,000 Years, Tonight

​

CR News

By Barry Secrest



For the first time in over two millennia, the star of Bethlehem will reappear in the western sky, tonight.

Of both Historical and religious significance, the last time this particular celestial configuration was seen,

the first coming of Christ was recorded in the New Testaments of the Holy Bible,

about two thousand years, ago.

​

​

Adding to this already considered remarkable spate of significance, is the unfolding turmoil both seen and felt across the world,
causing many evangelicals to believe that the world is now transversing into the last era of man known as the "End Times."

​

Not coincidentally, might be the fact that in addition to this
--on it's own--a remarkable celestial convergence, there is also the Blood Moon Tetrad of 2014-2015,
and the solar eclipse of 2015, making this particular year one of the most active ever,
in terms of historical and astronomical convergence.

In this vein, Watcher Walid Shoebat writes:

Let's start first in Matthew 2, it speaks of when Christ was a threat to the Edomite king and the Anti-Messiah of his day, Herod:

“When Jesus therefore was born in Bethlehem of Judah, in the days of King Herod,
behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem. Saying, Where is he that is born king of the Jews?
For we have seen his star in the east, and are come to adore him…” Who having heard the king, went their way;
and behold the star which they had seen in the east, went before them, until it came and stood over where the child was.
And seeing the star they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.”

​

But this star was foretold in the Old Testament Numbers regarding Messiah’s first coming
and also included another major incident to take place regarding His second coming as well:

“A star shall rise out of Jacob and a sceptre shall spring up from Israel: and shall strike the chiefs of Moab,
and shall waste all the children of Seth. And he shall possess Idumea:
the inheritance of Seir shall come to their enemies, but Israel shall do manfully.
Out of Jacob shall he come that shall rule, and shall destroy the remains of the city.” (Numbers 24:15-19)

Shoebat goes on to explain the extraordinary religious significance of what is unfolding now in history,
as it relates to the celestial convergence.

​

From CBS News comes the astronomical commentary:

Starting on Tuesday, Jupiter and Venus will be so close in the night sky that you could cover them both with the tip of an outstretched finger.

The two planets will be just a third of a degree apart as seen from North America.

"To the eye they'll look like a double star," said Kelly Beatty, a senior editor at Sky & Telescope magazine.

"Anyone who hasn't glanced at the evening sky for a while will be surprised by how dramatically tight the pairing is."

They will be easy to spot as the brightest objects in the sky, after the sun and moon. Venus, appearing as a crescent,
will be even brighter than its neighbor.

Not far to their upper left, appearing much fainter, is Regulus, the alpha star in the constellation Leo.

​

They will remain no greater than 2 degrees apart - a thumb's width at arm's length - until July 4.
Called a conjunction, this celestial convergence is more common than you might think.
They appeared slightly closer together before dawn on August 18, 2014, and they'll be separated by about 1 degree before dawn
on the morning of October 26th. During a remarkable conjunction on May 17, 2000, Venus and Jupiter were just 0.01 degrees apart
- but too near the sun to be seen.

Next year, on August 27th, they'll dazzle again during an evening conjunction with a separation of just 0.1 degrees.
At the beginning of June, the two planets were 20 degrees apart in the sky, about twice the width of your fist held at arm's length.
Week by week, Jupiter and the stars behind it have gradually slipped lower in the evening twilight.
But Venus, due to its rapid orbital motion around the sun, has stayed high up.

​

The resulting slow-motion convergence put them 6 degrees apart last week, setting the stage for Tuesday's awesome display.

Although the two planets appear very near one another in the sky, they're actually not.

Venus is 58 million miles from Earth, and Jupiter is 12 times farther out at 565 million miles.

The distance explains why the two planets will look roughly the same size even though Jupiter is far larger.

Sky & Telescope Contributing Editor Fred Schaaf points out that this current string
of Venus-Jupiter conjunctions closely resembles a similar series between the years 3 and 2 B.C.

It has been suggested that their joint appearance came to be known as the Star of Bethlehem.



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30 JUNE 2015

D'ici la fin du mois de juin, on peut assister à la conjonction de Jupiter et Vénus,
un peu après le coucher du soleil.
Levez la tête vers l'ouest et cherchez les deux points les plus lumineux du ciel (après la lune).

By the end of the month of June, we can attend the conjunction of Jupiter and Venus,
a little after sunset.
Raise your head to the west and look for the two points the brighter of the sky (after the moon).

 

Venus orbits the Sun 13 times for every 8 Earth orbits.
If you track the relative positions of Earth and Venus over an 8 year period, this is the resulting pattern.


More info: http://bit.ly/12VEs6A

 

ESPL: Dances of the Planets

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The planets in the heavens move in exquisite orbital patterns, dancing to the Music of the Cosmos.
There is more mathematical and geometric harmony than we realize.
The idea for this article is from a book Larry Pesavento shared with me.
The book, 'A Little Book of Coincidence' by John Martineau, illustrates the orbital patterns and several of their geometrical relationships. .
Take the orbits of any two planets and draw a line between the two planet positions every few days.
Because the inner planet orbits faster than the outer planet, interesting patterns evolve.
Each planetary pairing has its own unique dance rhythm.

For example, the Earth-Venus dance returns to the original starting position after eight Earth years.

Eight Earth years equals thirteen Venus years.

Note that 8 and 13 are members of the Fibonacci number series.

• Earth: 8 years * 365.256 days/year = 2,922.05 days
• Venus: 13 years * 224.701 days/year = 2,921.11 days (ie. 99.9%)

Watching the Earth-Venus dance for eight years
creates this beautiful five-petal flower with the Sun at the center.
(5 is another Fibonacci number.)

Another intriguing fact is the ratio between the Earth's outer orbit
and Venus's inner orbit is given by a square.

In the following dance patterns, the planet pairing is given
and the number of orbits of the outer planet.
Enjoy these beautiful patterns.






Let me share with you other facts about cosmic harmony.

The radius of the Moon compared to the Earth is three to eleven, ie. 3:11.

• Radius of Moon = 1,080 miles = 3 x 360
• Radius of Earth = 3,960 miles = 11 x 360 = 33 x 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5
• Radius of Earth plus Radius of Moon = 5,040 miles = 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 x 7 = 7 x 8 x 9 x 10

The ratio 3:11 is 27.3 percent, and the orbit of the Moon takes 27.3 days.
27.3 days is also the average rotation period of a sunspot.

The closest : farthest distance ratio that Venus and Mars each experiences in the Mars-Venus dance is incredibly 3:11.

The Earth orbits between them.

The sizes of the Moon and the Earth 'Square the Circle' as shown in this illustration, which is drawn to scale.

The perimeters of the dotted square and the dotted circle are the same length.

The perimeter of the dotted red square is 4 x Earth's diameter = 4 x 7,920 miles = 31,680 miles.
The circumference of the dotted blue circle is 2 pi x radius = 2 x 3.142 x 5040 miles = 31,667 miles. (ie. 99.9%)

Article by Howard Arrington

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The dance patterns were drawn by the following ESPL program using a chart window for the canvas.

The chart bars and grid were hidden so the canvas was blank.


Edit the Planet1 and Planet2 variable values to select the planet pairing,
with the planets numbered beginning with Mercury = 1.
var {global variables}
i,c,Planet1,Planet2: integer;
Planet1Year,Planet2Year: real;
Planet1Radius,Planet2Radius: real;
Interval,Orbits: real;
yBottom,yCenter,xCenter: real;
a1,a2,a1Interval,a2Interval: real;
r,r1,r2,rStop: real;
x1,y1,x2,y2: real;

function Year(i: integer): real; {orbital period in days}
begin
if i=1 then Result:=87.969
else if i=2 then Result:=224.701
else if i=3 then Result:=365.256
else if i=4 then Result:=686.980
else if i=5 then Result:=4332.6
else if i=6 then Result:=10759.2
else if i=7 then Result:=30685
else if i=8 then Result:=60190
else if i=9 then Result:=90465;
end;

function Orbit(i: integer): real; {mean orbit distance in 10^6 km}
begin
if i=1 then Result:=57.91
else if i=2 then Result:=108.21
else if i=3 then Result:=149.60
else if i=4 then Result:=227.92
else if i=5 then Result:=778.57
else if i=6 then Result:=1433.5
else if i=7 then Result:=2872.46
else if i=8 then Result:=4495.1
else if i=9 then Result:=5869.7;
end;

function Name(i: integer): string;
begin
if i=1 then Result:='Mercury'
else if i=2 then Result:='Venus'
else if i=3 then Result:='Earth'
else if i=4 then Result:='Mars'
else if i=5 then Result:='Jupiter'
else if i=6 then Result:='Saturn'
else if i=7 then Result:='Uranus'
else if i=8 then Result:='Neptune'
else if i=9 then Result:='Pluto';
end;

begin {main program}
Planet1:= 3; {select outer planet}
Planet2:= 2; {select inner planet}
Orbits := 8; {number of outer rotations}

Planet1Year := Year(Planet1);
Planet2Year := Year(Planet2);
Planet1Radius := Orbit(Planet1);
Planet2Radius := Orbit(Planet2);
Interval := Planet1Year/75; {days}

FindWindow(eChart);
yBottom:=PriceToY(GetVariable(eScaleLow));
yCenter:=2+yBottom/2;
xCenter:=100+yCenter;

r1:=yCenter; {outer radius}
r2:=r1*Planet2Radius/Planet1Radius; {inner radius}
r:=0; rStop:=Planet1Year * Orbits;
a1:=0; a1Interval:=2*pi*Interval/Planet1Year;
a2:=0; a2Interval:=2*pi*Interval/Planet2Year;

SetPen(clBlue); {print labels}
TextOut(120,10,Name(Planet1));
TextOut(120,30,Name(Planet2));
TextOut(120,yBottom-30,inttostr(Orbits)+' orbits');

while r<rStop do begin
i:=trunc(r/interval/75); {use different color each orbit}
if i=0 then c:=clBlack
else if i=1 then c:=clBlue
else if i=2 then c:=clRed
else if i=3 then c:=clGreen
else if i=4 then c:=clPurple
else if i=5 then c:=clMaroon
else if i=6 then c:=clNavy
else if i=7 then c:=clDkRed
else c:=clOrange;

SetPen(c,1,eSolid,pmCopy);
a1:=a1-a1Interval; {angle1}
a2:=a2-a2Interval; {angle2}
x1:=r1*Cos(a1); y1:=r1*Sin(a1); {convert polar to rectangular coordinates}
x2:=r2*Cos(a2); y2:=r2*Sin(a2);

MoveToLineTo(x1+xCenter,y1+yCenter,x2+xCenter,y2+yCenter); {draw line}
r:=r+Interval; {move around outer circumference}
end;
end;
http://ensign.editme.com/t43dances

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shiloh on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:26 pm
Carol wrote:
Good gad! Just another example of fear based ideology and philosophy.
When the Thubans first showed up on PA I just had no interest so I really didn't read the thread or understand the polarization that occurred around it other then that it was not in alignment with what Kerry and Bill wanted to see posted on "their" forum.
When it first started here I still didn't have much interest until it went into my favorite topic which involved quantum physics. Meaning quantum physics is where science and god come together for me. Ironically, in reading the science and attempting to understand the Torus, understanding at a rudimentary level popped into place for me. So it is the science which appeals to me. Some of the other philosophy (specifically the whole hierarchy thing) just isn't my cup of tea - purely from the perspective of Buddhist philosophy where one is to become empty in order to perceive spiritual reality at a fundamental level. The word neti, neti, neti literally means not this, not this, not this. In essence when one empties oneself ( of all thoughts, philosophies, ideologies) enlightenment occurs.
The transpersonal realm of direct experience is beyond words and even intellect. One is in a state of conscious awareness beyond judgment and also in an observer mode. One just is. Whereas, dropping down to the 3D dimension one needs words just to communicate experience putting distance between what is by moving into intellectual analysis.
Sexuality does not exist at the higher spiritual dimensions as this is a creative process for pro-creation of a human body, a vessel for another soul to come down and experience spirit in matter. From observation it appears that it's easy enough to become confused about the energy and role of sex. Orgasm is a re-experience of at-one-ment (singularity) but within the form of matter. How sexuality is used is where problems can occur particularly where sexual abuse is involved and the over-powerment of one over another as this can lead to one becoming stuck in the lower dimensional realms.
Yet the experience of singularity at a purely spiritual level leaves the experience of physical orgasm in the dust. Meaning that there is much more in the spiritual realms to be experience then just at the 3D level. Now imagine being in the spiritual form and having the experience of singularity. This is an experience of what it is to be a quantum particle - no place and every where, zero point locality. For me this is true freedom which cannot be contained within words, or intellect, or even a physical form.


I wont argue 'sexual reality',(especially the cosmic nature of it, compared to the human varieties); with you Carol In A Carolina, but let Mother Nature have a say regarding your 'philosophy' and experience.
Nevertheless Carol, if your observational viewpoint is the 'naturally appropriate' one, as you argue, then the Bonobos are monstrosities and freaks of Mother Nature behaving in such uninhibited manners and for pleasure and fun and not just for procreation.
​

No wars, no jealousies no violence and no abuse - but ever so sexy in peaceful and caring appreciation of each other in fullest passionate expression of the cosmic self


Gospel of Thomas Didymos - Lambdin:
(37) His disciples said, "When will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?"
Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children and tread on them, then will you see the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid" ​

The mating behavior of the bonobo, humanity's closest relative in the animal kingdom. The bonobo shares 97% of our dna, lacking reasoning and linguistic abilities. Shame, guilt and morality would be difficult with such limitations. This may be way too much truth for some to see without becoming upset. Just stop watching and go look at something else if that's you. You are not going to change the bonobos' mating habits



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Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs


Post n°52


Re: recent archaeological discoveries

shiloh Today at 6:41 pm
mudra wrote:


Huge Underwater Pyramid Discovered Near Portugal – The Navy is Investigating



Portuguese news reported the discovery of a very large under water pyramid first discovered by Diocleciano Silva between the islands of São Miguel and Terceira in the Azores of Portugal.

According to claims, the structure is said to be perfectly squared and oriented by the cardinal points.

Current estimates obtained using GPS digital technology put the height at 60 meters with a base of 8000 square meters.

The Portuguese Hydrographic Institute of the Navy currently has the job of analyzing the data to determine whether or not the structure is man-made.

“The pyramid is perfectly shaped and apparently oriented by the cardinal points,” Silva told Diário Insular, the local newspaper.

The pyramid was found in an area of the mid-Atlantic that has been underwater for about 20,000 years. Considering this is around the time of the last ice age where glaciation was melting from its peak 2000 years prior, whatever civilization, human or not, that was around before the ice age, could be responsible for building the pyramid.

read on: http://themindunleashed.org/2014/01/huge-underwater-pyramid-discovered-near-portugal-navy-investigating.html

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Dear mudra beware of photoshoppers and disinformants, including channelers and you tube publishers, who appear to be thrilled by stifling real research into real phenomena!





Graham Hancock
February 3, 2014 ·
Azores submerged “Pyramid” – Warning not to be duped by irresponsible photoshopped image currently doing the rounds on the internet. At least 10 well meaning folk every day send me links like this:
http://www.educateinspirechange.org/…/huge-underwater-pyram…
Or this:
http://themindunleashed.org/…/huge-underwater-pyramid-disco…
Or this:
http://wearechange.org/huge-underwater-pyramid-discovered-…/

I’ve responded individually to multiple messages and wall posts but in the hope of making things clear to as many as possible I thought I would post what I have to say as a status as well. I have been following the Azores pyramid story for some time and reported it here last year. The picture in the reports linked above is, of course, a photoshopped artefact using the Giza pyramids and overlaid with an underwater scene. It is, in my humble opinion, highly irresponsible of any website to use this image without making it clear that it is a photoshopped fantasy, and not anything real. That being said, however, there IS an anomalous structure underwater off the Azores, so far only identified by sonar. The Portuguese navy have dismissed it as a 'seamount' on the basis of some old sonar readings of their own in the area, but they have not gone to the site to investigate exactly what was identified there in 2013. As far as I'm concerned the case is still open and I hope to take a look later this year.

http://lists.grahamhancock.com/pipermail/hancock-announce/2014-February/000280.html



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mudra Today at 6:53 pm
Ooooh Great Shiloh It's good you keep an eye over my shoulder.
When I look back at that photo I can see now it's photoshopped.
Thank you for clearing this up.



Re: recent archaeological discoveries

mudra Today at 5:16 pm

Millions of years old vehicle/sledge tracks; Phrygia Valley, Forbidden Archeology Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjFT7-Yvekg




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Re: recent archaeological discoveries

shiloh Today at 7:48 pm
mudra wrote:


Ooooh Great Shiloh It's good you keep an eye over my shoulder.
When I look back at that photo I can see now it's photoshopped.
Thank you for clearing this up.



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For you mudra






This Russian presenter is cute and not at all nabs infected; though some of her sources, whose research she is trying to expand upon logically and rationally certainly are.
She is linked from your Celtic musica clip.





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B.B.Baghor Yesterday at 2:22 pm

Shilo's words: ".....beware of photoshoppers and disinformants, including channelers and you tube publishers,
who appear to be thrilled by stifling real research into real phenomena!"

Thank you, shilo, for clarifying. Lately I (this somewhat put off abdis) was updated by a google+ commenter
knowledgable in gaming designs and digital "machine-language", of advanced photo-shop programs, available online.
These are offered in free month trials and anybody who has an urge to create a virtual reality and fool people,
can do an easy job, with limitless building material.

Also I've learned that holographic projections of images may possibly be used in staging a false flag event of an
ET disclosure with UFO like crafts, designed by human technicians, to create the convenience of an ET enemy.
In the shopping mall of my city Utrecht, I walked into a curtain of a projection, just a dust particle thick,
projected and in motion, quite beautiful, so that people could stand in it and be eternalized in a cool picture.
Children were excited and ran through that curtain all the time, giggling and making attempts to grasp the projection
with their hands The next revelation may be near, when we will come to the discovery that our brains
project images all the time, creating the world of form. Once we've figured that out, nothing is going to stop us,
for we can walk through walls and think ourselves in a reality of our own choice, which cancels the dependency
on fantasy worlds created by others, fooling us.
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• Post n°192

Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

mudra Yesterday at 5:12 pm
B.B.Baghor wrote:


The next revelation may be near, when we will come to the discovery that our brains
project images all the time, creating the world of form.

There is a song of Laurie Anderson " Coolsville " that Trancoso posted today .
A line in the lyrics came over to me as a poetic echo to what you say BB.

some things are just pictures they're scenes before your eyes


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• Post n°193

Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

mudra Yesterday at 5:45 pm

There is a video I posted today which to me brings another echo to both what Carol and you Shiloh are trying to convey.
In the first 24' Heath Thompson is describing in his own words a state he experienced which is similar to what Carol mentions as " One is in a state of conscious awareness beyond judgment and also in an observer mode. " . To him that state was one of pure Stillness.
However as he explains he later found out that Stillness is also vibrant and dynamic, that although he was well aware of the Stillness he was also a man and that it was ok to be alive. That Conscious Awareness of Stillness isn't separable to the vibrancy it gives birth to.
The entire dynamic of life is coming forth from two different and complementary energies eternally dansing with one another much in the way Walter Russell saw it.
The sexual act to me as demonstrated by these chimps is the ever joyful celebration of the dynamic principle of Life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a1tqU_kIio

For the grace of it



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MKkr_1Kqcw




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