The Factuals versus the NABS (New Age BullShit)

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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

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    Saying#115:

    Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your self~image will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."

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    Saying#116:

    Jesus said to the apostles: "If the people come up to you in numbers, saying, tell us your secrets, tell us your secrets; then reply to them, that you cannot do so for reason of the secrecy. Tell them, that should they know, they would become insane.
    But if some persist and ask you privately; then share the secrets with them in measure of their willingness to become insane in the world."




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    Ezekiel 17:

    1And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
    2Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel;
    3And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A great eagle with great wings, longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar:
    4He cropped off the top of his young twigs, and carried it into a land of traffick; he set it in a city of merchants.
    5He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful field; he placed it by great waters, and set it as a willow tree.
    6And it grew, and became a spreading vine of low stature, whose branches turned toward him, and the roots thereof were under him: so it became a vine, and brought forth branches, and shot forth sprigs.
    7There was also another great eagle with great wings and many feathers: and, behold, this vine did bend her roots toward him, and shot forth her branches toward him, that he might water it by the furrows of her plantation.
    8It was planted in a good soil by great waters, that it might bring forth branches, and that it might bear fruit, that it might be a goodly vine.
    9Say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Shall it prosper? shall he not pull up the roots thereof, and cut off the fruit thereof, that it wither? it shall wither in all the leaves of her spring, even without great power or many people to pluck it up by the roots thereof.
    10Yea, behold, being planted, shall it prosper? shall it not utterly wither, when the east wind toucheth it? it shall wither in the furrows where it grew.
    11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
    12Say now to the rebellious house, Know ye not what these things mean? tell them, Behold, the king of Babylon is come to Jerusalem, and hath taken the king thereof, and the princes thereof, and led them with him to Babylon;
    13And hath taken of the king's seed, and made a covenant with him, and hath taken an oath of him: he hath also taken the mighty of the land:
    14That the kingdom might be base, that it might not lift itself up, but that by keeping of his covenant it might stand.
    15But he rebelled against him in sending his ambassadors into Egypt, that they might give him horses and much people. Shall he prosper? shall he escape that doeth such things? or shall he break the covenant, and be delivered?
    16As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely in the place where the king dwelleth that made him king, whose oath he despised, and whose covenant he brake, even with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die.
    17Neither shall Pharaoh with his mighty army and great company make for him in the war, by casting up mounts, and building forts, to cut off many persons:
    18Seeing he despised the oath by breaking the covenant, when, lo, he had given his hand, and hath done all these things, he shall not escape.
    19Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely mine oath that he hath despised, and my covenant that he hath broken, even it will I recompense upon his own head.
    20And I will spread my net upon him, and he shall be taken in my snare, and I will bring him to Babylon, and will plead with him there for his trespass that he hath trespassed against me.
    21And all his fugitives with all his bands shall fall by the sword, and they that remain shall be scattered toward all winds: and ye shall know that I the LORD have spoken it.
    22Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent:
    23In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it: and it shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar: and under it shall dwell all fowl of every wing; in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell.
    24And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.



    Just who or what the 'fowls of heaven' and the 'doves' and the 'vessels of mercy' are; I shall leave for the minds of the imaginations of the participators to discern.

    Isaiah.60.8:
    Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

    Romans.9.23:
    And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,


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    empty. Re: The United States of the Solar System: 2133 A.D. Book Two.

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    Wow!! This is an information-overload!! Thank-you!! I might not respond directly to your posts for a while. In fact, I might never make a satisfactory and/or complete response. I've simply been attempting to construct an alternative study-guide for myself and others -- which might take years, decades, or centuries to properly process and apply. In the meantime, consider yet another minimalist study-list:

    1. Prophets and Kings by Ellen White.
    2. Acts of the Apostles by Ellen White.

    Try reading these two books straight-through -- over and over -- noticing the Picture of Christ which emerges. Notice that this approach does not involve the direct study of the Gospels or the First-Few Bible-Books. Then consider this minimal-list:

    1. James the Brother of Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls by Robert Eisenman.
    2. The Gods of Eden by William Bramley.

    Try reading these two books straight-through -- over and over -- noticing the Historical Undercurrents which emerge. What's really going-on regarding All of the Above?? This is a more difficult and involved study than you can imagine!! Finally, consider applying All of the Above to the following:

    1. Stargate SG-1 Series and Movies.
    2. Babylon 5 Series and Movies.

    Try watching these series and movies straight-through -- over and over -- noticing the interface of Science, Science-Fiction, History, Historical-Fiction, Politics and Religion!! Pretty Interesting Stuff!! As sort of an "afterglow" try watching the following old classics (in light of All of the Above):

    1. Cleopatra (1963).
    2. The Agony and the Ecstasy (1965).

    Are empires simply about Greed and Power?? MUST there be empires?? How else should things work?? People might talk about love and cooperation -- but what are the "Hidden-Agendas"?? "We Come in Peace (Until We Figure-Out How to Kick Your @$$)"??!! Now, I'll try to digest those new posts!! Thanks Again!! Consider an in-depth side by side study of the following two books of the Bible (noting especially the Messianic-Aspects):

    1. Psalms.
    2. Isaiah.

    What if Isis wrote the Whole-Bible (and then some) in Ancient-Egypt -- and the Piso-Family adapted portions of it to their circumstances?? What if these writings were "Booby-Trapped" with "Egyptology", "Astro-Theology", and "Conflicting-Details"?? What Would Gerald Massey Say?? What Would Albert Schweitzer Say?? What Would Rudolph Bultmann Say?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? What if the Piso-Family were Reincarnating Ancient Egyptian Deities?? What if the hypothetical Ancient-Egyptian Pisos are Alive and Well -- and Living on Planet Earth (even as I type)?? I keep thinking that the circumstances in this solar system have been pretty-bad -- going way, way, way back. I keep thinking that the Info-War is going to be Utterly-Devastating. I keep thinking that we should be prepared for just about anything. Here's some more Piso-Trivia!!


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    by Roman Piso

    July 2000

    from RomanPisoHomepageBookshelf Website

    FOLLOWING THE TRAIL

    (from the family of Vespasian to the Pisos):​

    The tie-in is that Arria the Elder was married to the emperor Vespasian’s brother (before Vespasian became emperor). He was T. Flavius Sabinus.

    From this relationship we find the connection to the alias names of the Pisos as “Paetus”. Quoting from “The True Authorship of the New Testament,” by Abelard Reuchlin:

    “Vespasian relied upon Piso because he was grandson of his own brother - Vespasian’s brother, T. Flavius Sabinus, had married Arria Sr. (i.e., Arria the Elder), who was Piso’s maternal grandmother. Piso’s identity as thus also a Flavian is decipherable from the appearance in the Flavian family line of L. Caesennius Paetus

    (Townend, Gavin, “Some Flavian Connections,” Journal of Roman Studies, LI. 54, 62, 1961).

    That was an alias (like Thrasea Paetus) of Piso’s father, L. Calpurnius Piso [Note: we now know Arrius Piso’s father to have been Gaius Calpurnius Piso who was executed by Nero].

    See page 20 supra, wherein Piso himself also is mentioned as a Caesennius Paetus. That is the true reason Piso used the literary pseudonym of Flavius; it was not because of his alleged - but untrue and hardly necessary - adoption by Emperor Flavius Vespasian. He was in fact (already) a Flavian.”

    This information leads us to:

    (1) The son of Thrasea Paetus/Gaius Calpurnius Piso (who is unnamed in history). And then to…
    (2) Flavius Josephus, and to…
    (3) Montanus, as another alias name of Arrius Piso.

    There are elements of this that are given in “The True Authorship of the New Testament” that may not be necessary to repeat here in detail such as how it is that Thrasea Paetus and Arria are seen as actually being Gaius Piso and his wife. You can find that with the use of that booklet and your own research.

    Instead, I will try to stick to the main issue here rather than side-track or let this get too confusing for you the reader/researcher. I will concentrate upon what you need to know in order to ‘follow the trail’ from one alias name to the next. To fill in the gaps and further deduce from this information, we examine more closely the family of Thrasea Paetus and both of the Arrias (Arria the Elder and Arria the Younger). From this, we find the daughter of Arria the Younger as one “Fannia”. “Fannia” too, is an alias name.

    Her real name was used to make her alias name. She was Flavia Arria. The feminine form of “Flavius”, and the name of her mother and grandmother - Arria. They used the “F” in “Flavia” as an initial and left it in front of her Arria name and changed the “r”’s in her name to “n”’s (which is explained by the use of “royal language”). This rendered the alias name of “Fannia” (F.Annia).

    Her brother, likewise also already carried/used the Flavius name and he would have the masculine form of his mother’s name and therefore would be “Arrius”. And now we have the “Arrius” portion of his name. But we will also find much more confirmation of this as we research and deduce further.

    Quoting from “The True Authorship of the New Testament”:

    “Likewise “Montanus” (the mountain?) “is spared out of consideration for his father [having died because of Nero]” when Thrasea Paetus is killed.” (pg. 20). Ref. Tacitus, Annals, XVI. 33., Loeb Classical Library edition.

    See the Bibliographical Index in the Letters of Pliny the Younger (Letters and Panegyricus), Loeb Classical Library edition, for data on:

    Thrasea Paetus, Arria the Elder, Arria the Younger, Fannia, Montanus and Arrius Antoninus.
    Note that Arria the Younger is called “Caecina ANNIA” also in history.

    Ref. Tacitus, The Annals, Book XVI, XXXIV, pg. 387, Loeb edition.

    EVIDENCE:

    (Flavius Josephus was a penname of Arrius Piso)

    This next section is called “Evidence”. Some of the items from above may be repeated here for various reasons; emphasis, clarification or because it also relates to other items that we are examining here.

    First of all, this particular subject really requires a full book length treatise to illustrate it fully - or ideally, several books which explore the whole thing in detail. But this is simply a short article and so we will do our best that we can here.

    One of the first things that comes to mind in trying to explain this is just “where to start?” And next is the reality of the fact that the average reader is unprepared and not fully familiar with primary information that they would need in order to fully comprehend what would be stated regarding this. So, there is an extreme disadvantage here right from the start.

    Because of this and the fact that this is just a short article, it would probably be best to just give a “list” of the various proofs that

    (1) Flavius Josephus was really Arrius Piso, and

    (2) Arrius Piso was/played “Jesus” in the New Testament

    In terms of Arrius Calpurnius Piso himself, he indeed made certain that his full and real name was never to be found anywhere that was obvious in history - therefore hiding his true identity from everyone but a small few.

    To restate this, the name “Arrius Calpurnius Piso” is not found outright in ancient history. But, it can be deduced and therefore reconstructed, because it is found in parts or ‘chopped up’ here and there. It is a matter of putting all of the ‘parts’ together to get his true full name. Remember, this name was deliberately hidden and for an express purpose.

    Abelard Reuchlin puts it this way:

    “He does not appear (in history) as Arius Calpurnius Piso. His true identity is decipherable only by reconstruction.”

    Ref. “The True Authorship of the New Testament,” pg. 3.

    When his true name and identity are discovered and known the rest starts to fall into place and the truth unravels. The easiest way to find that “Arrius Calpurnius Piso” is his real name is to find him as (C.) Caesennius Paetus when his father as Thrasea Paetus is found out to really be Gaius Calpurnius Piso, who was put to death (by order of suicide) by Nero in 65 CE.

    At that point, you know that he is the son of Gaius Calpurnius Piso, and that therefore the “Calpurnius Piso” part of his real/true name becomes known. From there one may deduce from information available in ancient history and in articles dealing with specifics of it that his firstname was “Arrius” as the masculine form of his mother’s name (Arria). You may well wish to note that the Jewish historic commentary tries to point this out with the “Pantera” riddle. This will be explained in more detail later on in this article.

    And one may also wish to note that Arrius Calpurnius Piso’s real name was not “Gaius Calpurnius Piso, Jr.”, as he just assumes that as an alter or alias name for the specific purpose of indicating that he was the son of Gaius Calpurnius Piso. His true name is the one that people in his family knew him as and called him by - and as we go on in our studies, it will become more and more apparent that this name was indeed “Arrius”.

    One of the best proofs for Flavius Josephus being the primary author of the Gospels and the inventor of “Jesus” is simply the correlations that are found between the works of Flavius Josephus and the New Testament itself. Those correlations will be made available to the public in the upcoming years.

    It is quite fortunate for us that the Romans were not the only ones who were leaving us records and information of persons and history in those times. The Jews (Pharisees), whom Rome was at war with over this very issue likewise left us what information that they could within their particular circumstance. Like the Romans, they too used what we refer to as ‘royal language’ as they could not write about this openly either and had to resort to hints, riddles and clues as well. But now that we know just how to read that ‘royal language’, we can also read what they had written - just as they had wrote it and intended it to be read by those whom could do so.

    Because of what this reveals, it demonstrates to us that history (especially ancient history) as we think we know it, did not happen in the way in which we had previously thought that it had and we must now expect that more and more evidence likewise will be found that is consistent with the way in which it DID happen.

    What this also means is that because the ancient authors were in complete control of what kind of evidence (in terms of their literary creations) and how much of various facts and information that they would give to us, we more or less find ourselves at their virtual ‘mercy’ as far as just what evidence they chose to leave to us for the purpose of finding out the real truth of matters in ancient history. And this should be considered when one is expecting to find one type of evidence or another.

    But this also means that what WAS left was left to us in what may be called ‘near pristine’ condition as far as what we find in the original texts - and that is much better than what we had previously thought we had in terms of what texts and info we had from those times. What I mean by this is that they did not write about just anyone, all persons that they made mention of in history was a relative of theirs whether by use of an alias name or not. There were not a lot of different persons writing either, which makes identifying just who wrote what much easier for us.

    Now, a bit about Josephus and Joseph the father of Jesus. Jesus’ father is Joseph (Josephus), his mother is not impregnated by a mere mortal man, but rather “God”. “God” came to mean something different to us in this time than it did to those authors living in those times. “God” had previously been a generic title inherited and used by Kings and other rulers. But because we (as a society) do not know this today, in our own time, we tend to think that Jesus’ mother had to be impregnated by “God” and that “God” could not also be her husband (figuratively speaking… remember, we are talking about a fictional story). While writing his ‘histories’, etc., Josephus deliberately mislead his readers (deliberate deception). And as Josephus he is the first ‘historian’ to mention “Jesus” outside of the New Testament.

    Josephus, as “Joseph”, the father of Jesus was a High Priest, but he was also a ruler/king (kings were sometimes called ‘governors’ in ancient history - which is something recently revealed by our research). However, as just stated, he (Josephus) would theoretically not actually have to be a king or ruler to use the inherited name/title “God”, if he was of the/a royal line. He would just have it as a “birthright” to use when and how he pleased - which, is precisely what he did.

    Another thing that is quite telling about the Piso family and their close relatives is that the Piso family had a history of being ‘governors’ of Syria. That is to say in actuality, kings installed there by Rome. Syria was generally a region that was ruled over by the Pisos for many generations consecutively, with perhaps a close relative of theirs stepping in as a figurehead occasionally. But primarily, Syria was the territory of the Pisos for a very long expanse of time.

    The Pisos and Syria in ancient history had very nearly become synonymous with each other - and so, this is another way of knowing what is being said regarding the Pisos in a secretive way. There is a place where “Jesus” is said to have been “famous” in Syria, for instance. It wasn’t “Jesus” most certainly who was “famous” in Syria, but rather the person who was playing Jesus in the NT (Ref. Matt. 4:24, “Jesus” famous or well-known in Syria).

    As Caesennius Paetus, Arrius Piso was the governor of Syria (Ref. Flavius Josephus, Jewish War II, VII, 59, Whiston translation; and also “The True Authorship of the New Testament”, by Abelard Reuchlin, pg. 20). Reuchlin says

    "Then Caesennius Paetus appears as governor of Syria, but because he is still Caesennius, he is still Josephus.”

    As Claudius Ariston “he was called the “leading citizen” of Ephesus (Ref. Pliny, VI.31.3.). Ephesus, was the Chief City of the Roman province of Asia which was to the South West of Bithynia. We also find him as Flavius Archippus who was supposedly a philosopher whom emperor Domitian commended to Pliny the Younger (under Pliny’s alter name/identity of Lappius Maximus, see “True Authorship of the New Testament,” pg. 15-16).

    The emperor ordered Pliny to “buy” him a farm near Prusa (in Bithynia) and out of public funds it would appear, or else by ruthless means to obtain this farm property. The people of Prusa (supposedly) voted to put up a statue as tribute to him (Flavius Archippus aka Josephus). Now, if we could just find one of these statues or other likenesses of Piso from his time we would really have something to show what he looked like.

    IMPORTANT ITEMS TO NOTE IN THIS ARTICLE:

    1. The Pantera Riddle, solved and explained
    2. The Correlations between the works of Flavius Josephus & the New Testament
    3. “Jesus” and Piso are BOTH famous in Syria
    4. The word “Denarius” used in Revelations as a question!
    5. Alias names can be used to build profiles of the actual persons
    6. Arrius Piso’s descent from Marc Anthony (and Cleopatra)
    7. The word “nini” and “dragon” meaning “baby boy”, which is “Jesus”
    8. Arrius Piso as founder of Annii Verii and Annii Anicii
    9. Arrius Piso’s inherited name of “Pollio”
    10. Listing of those ‘historians’ who were involved in the fraud

    BACK ON THE TRAIL

    (following Arrius Piso through his alias names)

    Here is the order in which we will go so as to keep this organized in a way that will be easier for the reader to understand and to follow:

    1. (C.) CAESENNIUS PAETUS leads us to Arrius Calpurnius Piso
    2. ARRIUS CALPURNIUS PISO (his real name) leads us to Montanus
    3. MONTANUS leads us to Arrius Antoninus
    4. ARRIUS ANTONINUS leads us to Arrius Verus
    5. ARRIUS VERUS leads us to Annius Gallus
    6. ANNIUS GALLUS leads us to Cestius Gallus
    7. CESTIUS GALLUS leads us to Gessius Florus
    8. GESSIUS FLORUS leads us to ANTONIUS PRIMUS
    9. ANTONIUS PRIMUS

    CAESENNIUS PAETUS

    We have already examined (C.) Caesennius Paetus and will have references for that and other items here at the end of this article. So, we can go on to examine Arrius Calpurnius Piso.

    ARRIUS CALPURNIUS PISO

    C(ENTURIO) ARRI

    Centurial Stone
    'The century of Arrius (built this)
    The term 'centurial stone' is given to building stones of Hadrian's Wall on which a century of 80 Roman soldiers scratched the name of their unit on completing 'their' stretch of Hadrian's Wall.

    Arrius Calpurnius Piso definitely had many, many more alias names. But for now it is important to know these names before going on to the rest. Below you will find examples of his “Arrius” name used both in the history of his time and in the New Testament as well.

    1. He is “Arrius” as Arrius Antoninus, in the history of his time.

    2. He is Areios/Arrius as the god Mars incarnate and is mentioned as the god Mars throughout the works of Juvenal (Loeb editions).

    3. He is “Arrius” (Annius) as the brother of Flavia Arria (i.e. Fannia).

    4. He is “Arrius”, because as Jesus he is called by the Jews “ben Pantera”, meaning that he is “son of his mother”. The Jews were pointing out that his name was “Arrius” as the masculine form of his mother’s name (Arria). One of the other things that we found in our research of royal language is that “T” and “TH” were often switched or used interchangeably.

    So, “Pantera” (or “Pentera”) could also be “PenTHera”, which is “mother” (i.e., HIS mother, “Arria”). Knowing this shows us that “ben PenTHera”, means “son of mother” (Arria). The Jews say that he is “son of mother”, so that when one finds out that “Jesus” was really being played by the person who invented him, and we know that person to be Josephus and/or even (C.) Caesennius Paetus, that we would be pointed to his MOTHER so that we could find his name as being “Arrius” as the masculine form of his mother’s name. Another thing that they knew and used was the hints and clues given by the authors of the New Testament themselves!

    The Greek word “PenTHera” for “mother” is in Mark 1:30, Matt. 8.14, Luke 4:38. In Matthew 12:48, Jesus (or the person who was playing him rather) says; “Who is my mother?” He is asking a question, a question that of course the average person thinks that they know the answer to - “Mary” (“Mary” is another form/spelling of “Arria”), but it is a deceptive one. The question is asked by him, Arrius Piso, to point towards his own mother as the source of his real name of Arrius… and so more is said in the form of questions.

    Matt. 13:55; “Is not HIS (Jesus/Arrius Piso) mother called “Mary?” If his name is “Arrius” as the masculine form of “Arria” (his mother), then his sister would also have the same name as his mother, i.e. “Arria”. Her name was hidden in history by simply changing the r’s to n’s, and by putting the initial of her first name (“F”) in front of her name instead of spelling it out (“Flavia”).

    5. As Jesus, he is the “Lamb”, and the word for lamb is “Arnius” in Greek and in the royal language it is seen as “Arrius” because r’s and n’s are interchangeable (Ref. John 1:29, Greek/English Interlinear New Testament).

    6. His name is inserted into the New Testament by several means. One of which is by the mention of the marketplace of “Appius”, as in the royal language r’s and p’s are interchangeable to render the name “Arrius” (Acts 28:15, Greek/English Interlinear New Testament).

    7. In the Revelations, 6:6, “Arrius” is inserted by mentioning the word “denARIUS”. And in his true ingenious style the author of the Revelations (Julius Calpurnius Piso) also makes this secretly as a question. And the reason we know this is this, “den” means “did not”, and so it actually reads; “did not Arrius?” And when one knows this, we also get to read the question with the inferred words to give the full question of; “Did not Arrius (Piso) do/create it?” Sheer genius on the part of Julius Piso.

    Now, with the combined knowledge that (C.) Caesennius Paetus was an alias name of Arrius Calpurnius Piso, we now go on to examine the name Montanus in comparison with what we already know.

    MONTANUS

    Well, we have already found that Thrasea Paetus and Caesennius Paetus were alias names of Gaius Calpurnius Piso and his son Arrius Calpurnius Piso because of the many factors involved with each and their other family members. Thrasea Paetus and Caesennius Paetus were not just alias names, but were also “composites” for the real persons behind the names.

    Note that this allows us to build profiles of these persons as their alias names are revealed. That is the way that these ancient authors had ‘designed’ this so that it WOULD be found out. And so, we look to find other similar composites that may be telling and we find the same similarity in the name and figure of “Montanus”. So, we examine this critically.

    Why “Montanus” for an alias name of Arrius Piso? Because he saw himself as a large immovable object such as a large hill or mountain. And he saw himself as the god Mars, who was the God of War, incarnate. And then he could also joke about this in the New Testament were “Mar’s Hill” is mentioned - because “Mar’s Hill” in Greek is “Areios Pagos”. And a “mount” (like Olympus), a large hill or mountain in Greek is “Pagos”, so here we have “Areios (Arrius) Mountain/Montanus”. But “pagos” can also be “opos” or “ipos” in Greek when viewing it in royal language and “ip(p)os” is “horse” or “beast” which is also what Arrius Piso was referred to. “Ippos” is the name “Piso” rearranged, and in the Revelations, Julius Piso refers to his father (Arrius) as “the Beast”. So, to say “Mar’s Hill” we could say in our meaning in Greek “Arrius Ippos/Piso” (Ref. Acts 17:19 and 17:22).

    A more detailed explanation of things not explained more fully here will be found in other works on this subject. There is also another joke in the New Testament where as Jesus, he (Arrius Piso) is slyly referred to as a “Mountain” (John 4:21). But bear in mind that many of these jokes and names cannot be seen in translated or interpreted versions of the New Testament. To ‘see’ these, you’ll have to use a good Greek/English Interlinear New Testament. You will have to go to the earliest Greek translation (not “interpretation”) to see/read this. In any case, this particular joke is rather interesting as it shows the author clearly “talking out of the side of his mouth.”

    In John 4:21, Jesus (Arrius Piso) says;

    “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when you shall worship the (ancestral) Father neither in (the form of) THIS MOUNTAIN (“Montanus”, i.e. Arrius Piso), nor in Jerusalem.”

    He is saying more than one thing here. He is referring to himself as “this mountain”, that is HIMSELF as “the Mountain” because he is “Montanus”. The reason he says that she will not worship the (ancestral) Father (i.e. “god”, whom was the original “god”, that being Pharaoh Adamenhept I whom Arrius Piso derives his ‘power’ and inherited name/title of “god” from) in Jerusalem is because he was pointing to the fact that Jerusalem by that time had been destroyed. It was later than 70 CE when this was being written.

    And he is also saying that the day when Christianity will end will eventually come. There is more and more evidence pointing towards Arrius Piso’s son Julius Piso having a great concern about Christianity, and that they, as the authors should make statements in the New Testament that will allow humanity to one day find out about all of this. And so, it appears that statements referring to the end of Christianity that were inserted into the New Testament were done to appease this son of Arrius Piso.

    In Pliny (the works of Pliny the Younger), we find “Montanus” as a senator. From the Bibliographical Index in the works of Pliny the Younger (Loeb Classical Library edition): “Montanus, unknown senator; letters on monument to freedman Pallas and honors voted him, VII. 29; VIII. 6.”

    We also see as we follow the trail, all of these who were involved in this fraud as well (such as Pliny the Younger). And we find, eventually, that this involved ALL of the Roman authors and we also find them to be closely related to each other - the Roman emperors and those who were writing their histories. Note that this is not a “conspiracy”, but more like what would be called an “oligarchy”. This should make some people sit up and take notice.

    “Montanus” was spared (by Nero) out of consideration for his father (Gaius Piso, who was forced to commit suicide by Nero), with the proviso (provision) that his official career should not be continued” (Ref. Tacitus, Annals, Book XVI, XXXIII, pg. 387, Loeb). “Montanus” is also mentioned in many other places. A list of these will appear at the end of this article. Now knowing that “Montanus” is Arrius Piso, we continue looking for “Arrius” and we now find “Arrius Antoninus”.

    ARRIUS ANTONINUS

    Why the alias name of Arrius Antoninus? We have already found his name as “Arrius”. So, we wonder why “Antoninus”? We have found examples of other alias names that were used that incorporated the use of component parts of other names and/or initials or abbreviations in some instances to create alias names/identities. And it may well be further found that there were indeed various purposes involved for the use of alias names and their component parts as yet not fully recognized, such as the use of these as “indicators” of ancestry. We are finding out more and more about these things all of the time.

    Titus Aurelius Fulvus Boionius Arrius Antoninus (138-161 AD)

    Now we look at “Antoninus” and find an obvious indication of descent from the Antonii line - and as we will find as we go along, this WAS purposeful. It was given as an indication that Arrius Piso was indeed descended from Marc Antony himself. And that explains the “Antoni” portion of the invented name. When one stops to think of all of this it is truly amazing that all of this was done and remained hidden from the public for so long - but there were a variety of methods and means used by them specifically for that purpose. Even fooling the brightest of scholars up to this time. But now all of this is known and available to everyone on the Internet - that “Dark Age” will now end.

    Remembering the purpose of these alias names and also realizing that great pains were taken specifically to HIDE these things, and not to make the appear obvious (except in small bits and pieces), while likewise bearing in mind that they… the authors were most ingenious, used the royal language, etc., we can easily envision them making “double use” of letters already used in these names as just another way of further hiding hints, clues and other info.

    In the alias name “Antoninus” we find the use of “ninus”. What is “ninus”? “Ninus” is a secret title. It is really the Greek “nini”, which is “baby” or infant - which, in reality refers, indicates and confirms that this person was “a baby” - the baby JESUS! Do you remember that it was mentioned above that Julius Piso called his father a “dragon” in the Revelations? That was because by doing so he was also pointing out that his father was “a baby boy” as that is what the word used for dragon refers to - he too was saying that Arrius Piso was JESUS!

    Let’s take a moment to review what we have found so far. We found that Flavius Josephus was really just a penname of Arrius Calpurnius Piso, and that Arrius Piso had played the fictional character “Jesus” in the New Testament. We also found that Tacitus, the historian, was involved in this fraud as well as Pliny the Younger. I sincerely hope that now that all of this is known that ancient history will NEVER be viewed in the same way again. How deluded must a person be to not recognize that this is the true way in which all of this had happened? Who could read and investigate all of this and say that it is merely a coincidence?

    No one at all I should think, as long as they have a working brain, basic information - and are honest with themselves. “Heart” and emotionalism does not enter into this as far as the premise of “Jesus” being good, etc., because all of that is depends upon the information about “Jesus” being true - and it is not, it is a fraud.

    ARRIUS VARUS

    Now why “Arrius Varus” as an alias? Well, it gives Arrius a chance to use his real name of “Arrius”, and that is one reason. But another is because he can really play with and use this alias while honoring himself and his descendants.

    The name “Varus” is the Roman form of the Egyptian “Veru,” meaning “great men”, but when used as a ‘name’ of an individual it means that the man who has and uses the name is a “great man”. As Arrius Verus, he is found as the founding ancestor of the later great Roman family - the “Annii Anicii.” “Annius” and “Arrius” are the same as explained previously. And he (Arrius Piso) is also the founder of the “Annii Verii.” Using the royal language one sees in this alias name another name that was used - “Severus.” Let’s look at this.

    “Arrius Verus” (vowels were interchangeable always because they are seen as not really being there excepting as to be used to make names appear to readers to be different), the ‘s’ from Arrius is given a vowel (“e”) to bind it to “Verus”, thus rendering “Severus”. This is a name used by Arrius Piso’s son Julius Piso as a commander of the Roman forces against the Jews in the Bar Cochba revolt.

    Tacitus says:

    “As Antonius (that is, “Antonius Primus”) hurried forward some dispatchments from the cohorts and part of the cavalry to invade Italy, he was accompanied by Arrius Varus…”

    He was “accompanied” by Arrius Varus, in this instance, because he was one and the same person. Naturally, where ever Antonius Primus went, Arrius Varus was sure to go… as they are the same person! Are you starting to understand just how ancient history was REALLY written? I hope so.

    In the same passage, Tacitus says:

    “However, Antonius (Primus) and Varus (of course!) occupied Aquileia…”

    Yes, they were BOTH there, in one place, and in one body! Another interesting thing that Tacitus does is to call “Antonius Primus” - “Primus Antonius”. One would think the purpose that Tacitus had in mind was to further confuse/confound the reader into thinking that he is speaking of two different persons, just as he does in calling Arrius Piso several different (alias) names. He is VERY actively participating in this fraud (Ref. Tacitus, II, Histories, Book III, VI, pg. 337, Loeb Classical Library edition).

    ANNIUS GALLUS

    We will start to see proof that the other historians of the time were also very actively involved in this fraud as well. This name is particularly telling when we find just which authors of the day had used this alias name to refer to Arrius Piso.

    As if the circle has not been completed by this point, still there is more to bring this all around “full circle” again. We know by now that “Annius” is just another spelling of “Arrius”, so we look for “Gallus”. Turning now to Suetonius we find that the person who killed the emperor Vitellius was none other than our “friend” Antonius Primus, and he is called “Gallus” there by saying that he is a (“c” word for male chicken) “rooster” and a person from Gaul. By the way, “Gallus” is also another way of using the “Pollio” name that Arrius Piso had also inherited, as they are the same in meaning. They both refer to the “rooster” and in turn, the “rooster” is also a secret way of alluding to the Phoenix, which ones finds to be synonymous with the phallic symbol and in meaning, “god”. So, in a very hidden way, calling Arrius “Gallus” is in fact saying or acknowledging him as “god”.

    So, note that we now add Suetonius to the list of authors who were contributing to this fraud. We also find “Annius Gallus” in Plutarch’s “Lives” under “Otho”. And Juvenal also makes mention of a “Gallus” in his works (Juvenal, VII. 144, Loeb).

    Tacitus did not miss the chance to use this alias name of Arrius Piso either. See: Tacitus, II, Histories, Book II, XLIV, pg. 233; and Tacitus, II, Histories, Book II, XXXIII, pg. 215; as well as Tacitus, II, Histories, Book II, XI; and Tacitus, II, Histories, Book I, LXXXVII, pg. 151.

    “Annius Gallus” by now should be easy to see as an alias name of Arrius Piso and should be seen as “Arrius Gallus”. This is a connecting/affirming alias name that allows the reader who is able to deduce things such as this and who has the ability to make use of their knowledge of ‘royal language’ to make the affirmation and connection to the fact that “Cestius Gallus” also was an alias name of Arrius Piso. This is, after all, a “trail” that was left to follow… and add Plutarch, Juvenal and Suetonius to our list of participants in the fraud.

    CESTIUS GALLUS & GESSIUS FLORUS

    (We will look at both of these in comparison to each other to help us better understand the other alias names that have been listed and those that we are yet to find out about)

    Why Gessius Florus? He disguises an ancestral name which is “Cassius”, as “Gessius” and gives “FL” from “Flavius”, while enjoying the name/title of (H)orus - as the Egyptian god which is reborn/incarnate now in the form of Arrius Piso. As Gessius Florus, he is a Roman procurator in Judea and is the cause of the Jewish revolt at that time.

    Writing as Josephus, Arrius Piso tries to make it appear that Gessius Florus is a different person from Cestius Gallus, but the name Cestius Gallus is telling. The name “Cestius” is the same as “Gessius” as seen in royal language because “C” and “G” are interchangeable to the point of being exactly the same anyway. And “S” and “T” are likewise as well.

    While we are on the subject of Arrius Piso and his use of the name “Gallus” and that being another way of saying/using his inherited name of “Pollio”, we should not forget another name that he was known by; that of “Annius Pollio”. Again, we should be used to ‘seeing’ the “Annius” name as “Arrius” and now we see the use of the name that came down to him from many of his ancestors and relatives -“Pollio”. Arrius Piso as “Annius Pollio” is incriminated in the Pisonian Conspiracy (plot) against Nero and sent into exile. Which is exactly what happened to him under other alias names! Refer to the article “Domitius Corbulo” by Ronald Syme in the JRS (Journal of Roman Studies), post 1969; and also Tacitus, Annals, XVI, 30, 3.; and Tacitus, Annals, XVI, 21, I. Arrius Piso as “Annius Pollio” was sentenced to exile (in Tacitus, Annals, Book XV, LXXI, pg. 329, Loeb).

    And by the way, the Roman writer Martial mentions Cestius Gallus in his works (Ref. Martial, XLII, 2., Loeb). Add Martial to our list of participants in the fraud.

    And the name “Gallus” is very telling because:

    a) it is another way of saying “Poll(i)o”, which is an ancestral name of the Flavians, and

    b) because they both mean chicken or “fowl” in general, as previously stated. Moreover,

    c) chicken or fowl refers to the winged-phallus that Jesus also was synonymous with, and

    d) Arrius Piso as Antonius Primus is supposed to have been born in Gaul (and so can be referred to as “Gallus”) according to Suetonius, and

    e) Suetonius adds that as a boy, Antonius Primus had the “nickname” (alias name) of “becko” (rooster’s beak). And further...

    f) as you can see, this and other alias names of Arrius Piso lead us to yet another one - that of “Antonius Primus.”

    ANTONIUS PRIMUS

    Why “Antonius Primus” as an alias name for Arrius Piso? Well, for one thing we were led to this name by the process of logical deduction. And here, we find the use and emphasis of the “Antonius” name again. And “Primus” is used because he considered himself the “prime” one or prime source (which he was, because he made himself so), and numero uno - number “1”, the big shot.

    He was/is the “key” to finding out about all of the rest of this. No one gets to anything of any real consequence regarding this unless they first “go through him”. One needs to know that Arrius Piso used many, many alias names (more than anyone else that I could find!), and the rest of this comes out as a result of that. The name “Antonius Primus” was used by Arrius Piso himself in the works that he wrote as Flavius Josephus, and that name is also found used in reference to him (Arrius Piso) in the works of Suetonius, and in Tacitus (Ref. Tacitus, II, Histories, Book II, LXXXVI, pg. 131, Loeb).

    It seems that one way that reconciled to themselves the use of alias for the purpose of deception was to think of them as “nicknames” - nicknames for which only they were fully aware of the full and true meanings. Arrius Piso was rather proud of his ancestry and particularly that of his descent from Marc Antony. His ancestry from Marc Antony has been reconstructed by us and we were able to do it because he made certain that it was given out in bits and pieces for those who were able to, to figure out and to see this for themselves.

    NOTES & REFERENCES FOR:

    Caesennius Paetus and family:

    C. Caecina Paetus
    M. Arria the Elder
    |
    Caecina Arria the Younger
    M. Thrasea Paetus
    |
    Fannia
    M. Helvidius Priscus

    References

    • “Domitius Corbulo”, Ronald Syme, JRS. Pliny the Younger, Epp. III, 16, 7ff.

    • Tacitus, Annals, Book XVI, XXXIV, pg. 387, Loeb.

    • Thrasea Paetus’ wife Arria the Younger was a relative of Persius the Poet. Ref. Suetonius, “Lives of Illustrious Men”, “On Poets - Persius”, pg. 497, 499.

    • Tacitus is careful not to mention that Thrasea Paetus and Arria had a son (Arrius Piso) also. He says; “To touch Nero with shame for his infamies was an idle dream, and it was much more to be feared that he (Nero) would exercise his cruelty on Thrasea’s wife, his daughter, and OTHER objects of his affection.” He does not mention son directly, but leaves open the possibility that one (or more) might exist. Then, to further hide the existence of this son (Arrius) he says; “Arria, who aspired to follow her husband’s ending and the precedent set by her mother and namesake, he (Thrasea Paetus) advised (her) to keep her life and not to deprive the child of their union of HER one support.” He could say this because Arrius was in exile!

    And that meant that he was not THERE to support his sister - as it also implies that Fannia did not or would not have a husband at that time (Ref. Tacitus, Annals, Book XVI, XXVI). There is quite a bit of information about this family in an article titled “People in Pliny”, by Ronald Syme, JRS (Journal of Roman Studies), 1968-69, pg. 144, 146, 148.

    Such as,

    ◦ (1) A. Caecina Paetus, suff. 37 CE, of Patavium.

    ◦ (2) P. Clodius Thrasea Paetus (also of Patavium), who married the daughter of the above A. Caecina Paetus.

    ◦ (3) Arria the Younger as wife of Thrasea Paetus.

    ◦ (4) C. Fannius (Arrius Piso) as barrister who wrote the biographies of Nero’s victims. To quote: “Supposed relative of Fannia, the daughter of Patavine (P. Clodius) Thrasea Paetus by marriage with Arria, the daughter of A. Caecina Paetus (suff. 37), cf. Groag in PIR-2, F 116.” Syme here says; “Why she should be called “Fannia”, no clue.” He is right, one would think a daughter of an “Arrian” would carry the name of her own mother - somewhere. It is there. She is “F.” Arria/Annia w/ r’s as n’s.

    Ref. for Thrasea Paetus and C. Caecina Paetus; “Domitius Corbulo”, by Ronald Syme, JRS, (post 1969). His source was Pliny the Younger, Epp. III, 16. 7 ff. As Caesennius Paetus, Arrius Piso married Vespasian’s niece, who was probably his first wife (Ref. “Some Flavian Connections”, Gavin Townend, JRS (Journal of Roman Studies), 1961. Also see Syme, “Tacitus”, 595, n5).

    Ref. for Caecina Paetus and Arria the Elder; Dio Cassius, 7. 407f. Polla, the wife of Lucan the Poet is called “Queen” by Martial. Note that “Polla” is the feminine form of “Pollo/Pollio” (Martial, Book X, LXIV, Loeb). Arria mentioned by Martial (I. XIII). Pliny the Younger mentions Arria in Epist. III, 16.3. Tacitus speaks of Arria (Tacitus, Annals, XVI). “Thrasea” is mentioned in Juvenal (Juvenal, V.36, Loeb).

    Thrasea Paetus, Arria the Elder, Arria the Younger, and Fannia are all mentioned in the Annals of Tacitus; Book XVI, XXIV, pg. 373; Book XVI, XXV, pg. 375-377; Book XVI, XXVIII, pg. 379-381; Book XVI, XXXIV, pg. 387. Read through books: XVI, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXIX, XXXIII, XXXIV, XXXV (Loeb).

    In Appian’s Roman History, there is C. Philo Caesennius (Paetus). “Paetus” is inferred the same way that “Piso” would be when the name “Frugi” is used (Appian, Roman History, IV. 27, Loeb). Note that it has been discovered that Arrius Piso wrote as Philo of Alexandria, and so it is natural to find “Philo” as another alias of his or used to produce one. Arrius Piso wrote as Philo for several reasons, not the least of which to historicize characters and make mention of those which he wised to emphasize. Case in point, (Pontius) Pilate (Ref. Philo, Vol. X, “The Embassy to Gaius (Caligula)”, pg. 151, 153, Loeb).

    History records that both Arria the Younger and Fannia were alive when Nerva became emperor in 96 CE. They had been in exile under Domitian.

    Arrius Piso as “Caesennius Paetus” was the governor (president/king) of Syria, as the Pisos were noted for being “governors of Syria” (Ref. Flavius Josephus, Jewish Wars, II, VII. 59; or Flavius Josephus, Whiston translation, pg. 597).

    • Montanus:
    “Likewise “Montanus” (the mountain?) “is spared out of consideration for his father” when Thrasea Paetus is killed.” Ref. “The True Authorship of the New Testament,” in “The Proof that Josephus as Calpurnius Piso,” pg. 20, Abelard Reuchlin, 1979, 1986.Note that this is found in the Annals of Tacitus, XVI, 33, Loeb.
    “Montanus” is found in “People in Pliny”, Ronald Syme, JRS, 1968-69, pg. 149-150. And in Tacitus, Histories, III, 35. 2; and in Tacitus, Annals, Book XVI, XXIX, pg. 381, Loeb. Tacitus, Annals, Book XVI, XXXIII, pg. 387, Loeb. “Montanus” is mentioned in Juvenal, IV. 107, 131, Loeb.

    • Arrius Antoninus:
    Arrius Antoninus was proconsul under Vespasian in 69 CE (Ref. “The Consulate of the Elder Trajan”, by John Morris, JRS, Vol. 43-45, 1953-1955, pg. 79-80. And Josephus, BF, 4, 9, 2 (499); Tacitus, Histories, II, I, cf. 1, 10; Suetonius, The Twelve Caesars”, under “Titus”, 5.
    He is also in the Historia Augusta by this name. He is grandfather of emperor Antoninus Pius. And we have found that Antoninus Pius and Suetonius were one in the same (Ref. Antoninus Pius, 1, 4; and “The True Authorship of the New Testament,” Abelard Reuchlin.
    Also see “”Marcus Aurelius” (A Biography), Appendix 2, “The Antonine Dynasty”, B: ANTONINUS PIUS, pg. 242, Birley, published by Yale University Press, c. 1986.

    • Annius Varus:
    In the Historia Augusta, Annius Verus is given as the great-grandfather of Marcus Aurelius (Ref. Marcus Aurelius, 1. 4)
    This “Annius Varus” (Arrius Piso) was obviously the founder of the “Annii Verii” (i.e., the Antonine Dynasty). You will find quite of bit of information regarding this family and the names that they used in the work titled “Marcus Aurelius” (A Biography), Appendix 2, “The Antonine Dynasty”, C: ANNII VERII (pg. 243-244), by Birley, pub. by Yale Univ.,
    c. 1986. Arrius is “M. Annius Verus” (even dared give us the “M” for “Marcus in Marcus Antonius!), suff. in 97 (Ref. “People in Pliny”, Ronald Syme, JRS, 1968-1969, pg 137).

    • Annius Gallus:
    “Annius Gallus” is in Plutarch’s “Lives” under “Otho”. And Juvenal also makes mention of a “Gallus” in his works (Juvenal, VII. 144, Loeb). Tacitus, II, Histories, Book II, XLIV, pg. 233; and Tacitus, II, Histories, Book II, XXXIII, pg. 215; as well as Tacitus, II, Histories, Book II, XI; and Tacitus, II, Histories, Book I, LXXXVII, pg. 151.

    • Cestius Gallus and Gessius Florus:
    The Roman writer Martial mentions Cestius Gallus in his works (Ref. Martial, XLII, 2., Loeb). Josephus speaking about Gessius Florus (.ie., himself as Roman General and procurator of Judea says; “… nor could anyone out do him in disguising the truth.” He is right about that, his is the all-time champion at doing that! Ref. Josephus, pg. 484, Whiston.
    Also note that as “Gessius”, Arrius could pronounce his alias name as “Jes(I)us.” And in the royal language he could change vowels to render “Josi(ph)us” or simply “Jos” as short for “Josephus”.

    • Antonius Primus:
    Antonius Primus is found described in Tacitus, Histories, Book II, LXXXVI, pg. 299. In the works of Flavius Josephus, “Antonius Primus” turns into “Antonius Julianus”.
    Church father Origen says that to find out about the destruction of the Temple look in (the works of) Flavius Josephus and “Antonius Julianus” (as if Antonius Julianus was a contemporary historian with Flavius Josephus and well-known. But there is NO historian “Antonius Julianus” except for being another name of or alias of Arrius Piso!
    Note that the name “Antonius Julianus” is in the works of Flavius Josephus, but that is just another alias name that is used by Arrius Piso

    It should be appropriate to end with a few words from
    Flavius Josephus himself:

    Josephus calls himself "Joseph" (as in the father of Jesus), on pg. 427 of the works of Flavius Josephus, Whiston.

    There is a joke/allusion to Josephus being Arrius Piso by use of a reference to a passage in the works of Flavius Josephus which appears in the New Testament as given by Julius Piso in the Revelations. It is the "I am Alpha and Omega, beginning and end." The name "Arrius Piso" starts with "A" (Alpha) and ends with "O" (Omega). Julius refers to a statement that may be found on pg. 427 of the works of Flavius Josephus, Whiston. Ref. Rev. 1:8, 11; 21:6; 22:13.

    And here is a great piece of rhetoric in the works of Flavius Josephus:

    "…and where it must be reproachful to write lies, when they must be known by the reader to be such."

    Note that he says "known by the READER," not the writer!!! (pg. 428, Josephus, Whiston).

    Like Alexander (the brother of Aristobulus), Arrius Piso "composed 4 books against his enemies." Those, of course, are the "Gospels". This is what we know of as and call "propaganda", and this was used during the ‘war’ as a part of the tactics against their enemies. So, when it is said that the New Testament was written as a part of the war, this is what is meant. Arrius Piso, writing as "Flavius Josephus" was here alluding to what HE did by writing the Gospels (Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg. 458, Whiston).

    "…and by degrees he laid blame on these men (his enemies) whose names were in these books, …"

    Again, alluding to what HE did. And we have found that this is true. He does place ‘blame’ on the Jews for the death of Jesus in his story and he does get more and more antisemetic in the Gospels as each one was written. Another thing is that he does place them in his works by their real names and by alias names with their ‘profiles’ so that people who knew these persons with a great familiarity would KNOW of whom he was speaking (Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg. 459, Whiston).

    And here is an admission to what he was doing:

    "yet were there fictitious stories added to what was really done."

    (Ref. Josephus, pg. 517, Whiston)

    And about the ‘signs’ that the Temple and Jerusalem would be destroyed, he says:

    "… the signs were so evident…" and that "… (the Jews) did not regard the denunciations that God made to them. ["God" in this case being Arrius Piso himself] Thus, there was a star resembling a sword [he is referring to his ‘sword’, i.e. "Jesus" which was his strength as the bright morning star, like Achilles had with his "evening star"], which stood over the city (of Jerusalem), that continued (lasted) for a while year."

    There at the end he could be referring to his position as Roman procurator in Judea.

    He states further…

    "I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, …." Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg 582, Whiston

    And "… as if they had been ready to (play as)/be "actors" against them." Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg. 602, Whiston.

    "Some of them betook themselves to the writing of fabulous narrations…" Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg. 608, in "Against Apion", Whiston.

    "As for myself, I have composed a true history of that whole war…" Josephus calls it a "war", not a "revolt" as most others do. He says; "I "acted" as general…" Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg. 609, in "Against Apion", Whiston.

    Josephus the Actor… He says:

    "…and as for the History of the War, I wrote it as having been an "actor" myself…" Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg. 610, in "Against Apion", Whiston.

    "I say nothing of such kings as have been famous for piety, particularly of one of the whose name was Cresus,…" "Cresus" is part "C(h)r(ist)" and part "(J)esus"… what a joker! Ref. Flavius Josephus, pg. 628, in "Against Apion", Whiston translation.


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    The Roman Piso theory is a pseudohistorical theory of the origins of Christianity. It states that a conspiracy of well-educated Romans — the Piso family — wrote the New Testament, and particularly the Gospels, as a social control mechanism. Its advocates call it "The New Classical Scholarship". Nobody else takes it seriously.[1]
    The theory originated in Bruno Bauer's Christus und Caesaren (Christ and the Caesars) from 1877, which claimed that that the Romans had authored the New Testament and that Josephus Flavius was the inventor of Jesus.[2]
    The Pisos are also claimed to have invented the Christian calendar,[3] rather than it having been proposed around 525 and adopted in the 800s.[4]
    Joseph Atwill,[5] in Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus, claims that the events of Jesus' ministry in the Gospels parallel the military campaigns of Titus Flavius in Josephus' Wars of the Jews. Atwill's theory is based on Bible Code-style pareidolia applied to the four canonical Gospels (ignoring the forty-plus others) and apparently only in English translation (his claimed puns don't work in the original Greek). Conspiracy connoiseurs will delight at Atwill's explanation:[6]
    How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinised books of all time? "Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren't all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played."
    Other proponents include Abelard Reuchlin (the "Abelard Reuchlin Foundation" used to sell his 1979 pamphlet The True Authorship of the New Testament on the subject in the newspaper small ads; he invented the supposed kingpin of the conspiracy, Arrius Calpurnius Piso), James Ballantyne Hannay and Jay Gallus, and an author who writes as "Roman Piso" (John Duran, who used to advocate this theory on Usenet).[7]
    A decent takedown of this nonsense is here, a longer one here, and Richard Carrier knocks it out of the park here.
    It's people like this that give Jesus mythicists a bad name.

    In real life

    Gaius Calpurnius Piso[wp] was a 1st century Roman senator, who gave his name to the actual Pisonian conspiracy[wp], a plot to usurp Nero. This had nothing to do with religious works over in Judea.

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    Published on May 15, 2015
    Scientists in Germany using the Hubble space telescope have detected extremely strong magnetic fields in a quasar which is said to be about 4 billion light years from Earth. The magnetic fields were measured at 200 million Gauss. In comparison, the strength of the magnetic field at Earth’s surface is only about one Gauss. The scientists state that the magnetic fields are very close to the quasar’s theoretical, central black hole. However, how confident should astrophysicists be in their ideas about cosmic magnetic fields, or their belief in the existence of black holes?



    This forum is doing an excellent job of propagating and publishing misconception about how the physical universe functions, both in theory and applied theory to observed phenomena and actual workings of the universe.
    It is true, that the higher dimensional self-interaction of the 4-dimensional spacetime matrix and especially with respect to how matter relates to cosmic magnetism remains incomplete on a deep fundamental level.
    But to propagate and support bogus science and quackery, such as the 'Electric Universe' quasi-science does more harm to the amateur reader, wishing to stay informed about the modus operandi and progress of the global sciences.

    Yes, the Universe is 'electric' and carries magnetic electricity in the form of cosmic currents and a number of phenomena, such as the Arpian redshifts and the Hannes Alven plasma deserve examination and discussion.
    But the quackery adherents of the 'Thunderbolt Project' and similar 'goofies' from Relativity deniers to Black Hole and Dark Matter eschewers to Dark Energy skeptics confuse the sincere and interested reader much more in magnitude and learning potential, than a perhaps harder to understand discourse incorporating mathematical modelling and logic, than that from 'you tube' publishers, pretending to carry an 'alternative' scientific nous.

    The solution to the 'sensational' 200 million gauss quasar does not require an 'overthrow' of well tested orthodox natural science, but a simple extension of one of its basic natural laws, known as the Biot-Savart law of magnetism.
    This law is behind the so called London effect and the 'mysterious' levitation effects of rotating masses, interacting in magnetic fields.

    A derivation of a real 'alternative' science, which is not alternative, but simply an extension of the present evolving scientific data base is given below.
    On page 6 of this essay, the magnetar and Black Hole magnetic fieldstrenghts are shown and exemplified to depend on the spin or rotation rate of the celestial body carrying mass or inertia.
    This fieldstrength can even attain a million million gauss for the extreme celestial objects retaining material stability.
    This forum is not supporting the birth and realisation of a 'Real New World' based on an Evolved Science in continuing in its utopian chase and human fantasies of conspiratorial nonsense from 'Flat Earthers' to 'Electric Universers' to 'Particle Accelerator Evildoers'.

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    empty. Re: Keshe's Free Energy Technology Will Make Today's Military 'Useless'

    empty. NANUXII on Tue May 12, 2015 5:41 am

    Regarding the ET situation , i have a very different view to the norm on their involvement and attitude , even their general demeanour i believe is vastly different to what we have been lead to believe, in fact i know it is.

    My personal point of view is , absolutely every negative entity and outcome here is completely human in origin.

    The very greed hungy ego driven psycopathic nature of the elite is human behaviour 101. Absolutely nothing to do with ET influence and there is still not a single model i have read about that makes sence to the contrary.

    some may get offended by this but remember im talking of the few that will do anything to stay at the top. Theres not a lot of people down here that can stomach such a life style, or at least what it takes to get there. So im not talking of our general nature.. no , humans are generally peaceful , and i know if we have abundance our general nature is to live in peace.

    But we are talking a bout a breed of human that has at some stage spewed its focus onto the power trip. Greed begets Greed and to the psycopathic and power hungry there is nothing they wont do to achieve and maintain this foot hold.

    No , i have to disagree on pretty much any talk of ET's influencing us deliberately to the negative. Think about it , those elite are so head strong to get into the positions of power they have , do you think they are going to be influenced by an ET ? and if they do , what on earth for ? what is the pay off for them being so abjectly primitive in their behaviour ? what do they get out of it ?

    This is a very micro view .. its not in the mind set of ET's to be primitive. They have already negotiated free energy and space travel millions of years before we ever existed.. thats got to take maturity to achieve and without currency or control mechanisms like we have down here we have to consider their culture is vastly different to our so considering their behaviour from a human model is moot.. The shenanigans we see down here is the mind set of a moron.. not an advanced ET..

    This ritualistically negative scarcity stance is fuelled by ones who see life in terms of power and scarcity. Limited Money , Limited Energy , Limits on Living , all these limits to push us down so they can look big .. thats primitive , not advanced, this is not the work of an advanced being ... how can it be ? .. its primitive.

    oh ill breathe now lol

    So theres my intro on my idea of what we are dealing with.

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    empty. bobhardee on Tue May 12, 2015 7:25 am

    5/12/2015

    I totally agree. If you listen to Stephen Greer and everything that he and the many people (experts) who have testified to Congress, it is all about peaceful beings. Yesterday there were some things written about underground battles with ETs and posted here on Mists. If that happened, where are all the survivors? Where is the testimony of the women who were used as sex slaves? It's not to be heard.

    I hope that I will have a chance to meet and greet the ET's....and Welcome this to our planet.

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    Contrary to the beliefs of some, science is not an impenetrable body of settled fact that must be defended at all costs in the name of truth. When science becomes a worldview—a philosophy of life, a metaphysical framework that explains existence—it is no longer science; it is scientism.

    Anti-Holistic Conspiracy or Reality?

    Contrary to the beliefs of some, science is not an impenetrable body of settled fact that must be defended at all costs in the name of truth. It is not a means by which to determine truth or to achieve absolute certainty. Neither is science a worldview. When science becomes a worldview—a philosophy of life, a metaphysical framework that explains existence—it is no longer science; it is scientism.
    A series of recent events have something peculiar in common. There was a call for Dr Oz to be removed from his academic post at Columbia University. Measles hype triggered a spate of legislative efforts across the country designed to restrict freedom of vaccine choice. The FDA decided to conduct a regulatory review of the status of homeopathic medicines. And most recently, a rather odd series of articles appeared in the press downplaying the significance of Chipotle's move towards a GMO-free (genetically-modified organisms) menu.
    The common thread is that these events were fueled by extremist elements within the scientific world whose intent is to control the narrative of what is and what is not considered to be acceptable or "real" science. These fundamentalist and corporate agitators, who act ostensibly in the name of science, can be likened to religious zealots who seek to impose their version of sacred scientific dogma upon the general public while at the same time prohibiting what they believe to be new heretical ideas from receiving a fair hearing.

    Culture Wars

    It is instructive to reflect upon the complex and long standing historical tension between science and religion, a phenomenon that lies at the heart of what has come to be known as our modern culture wars. Caught in the crossfire of this unholy war is a wide array of holistic therapies, many of which are backed by a great deal of both experimental and experiential evidence. Nevertheless, they tend to be regular targets for defamatory rhetoric from extremist detractors on both sides of the polarized divide.
    The example most commonly cited by historians of science is that of Galileo's contention that the earth revolves around the sun, a fact that directly contradicted Church dogma of the time. Fast forward to the contemporary debate over the origins of the universe and the evolution of life on our planet. With equal fervor both sides dispute opposing views with absolute certainty as to their convictions, whether scientific or religious. It is believed by many that there is room for only one position, as if it is not possible for elements of both to co-exist. Apparently it is not believed possible that a higher power could have set the evolution of the universe into motion.
    On the surface, the culture wars appear to break down along partisan political lines, however, the field of holistic health can make for some strange bedfellows. Holistic therapies are generally embraced by more educated, liberal leaning persons who distrust Big Medicine on the grounds that medical treatment can be accompanied by a lot of side effects that place one's health at risk. On the other hand, some on the right have also defended holistic medicine as a symbol of self-determination, especially libertarians who distrust Big Medicine as a threat to their personal freedoms.
    Reflecting a similarly unusual mix, some vaccine critics are holistically oriented liberals, some are right-wingers who mistrust government interference, and not a small number represent those who have seen first-hand the dangers of vaccines. It is also true that vaccine critics are often lambasted by liberal elites who place their faith in what they perceive to be the science that supposedly supports vaccines, a position that runs contrary to their general suspicion regarding the motives of PhRMA and Big Medicine. In other words, there is no bright line that divides holistic supporters and detractors.
    In contrast to Galileo's era when Church authority had the final say on matters of "fact," the modern culture wars often break down into shouting matches over who is on the side of science and who is not—as if to say that science is always on the side of truth while all others base their views on unreliable and/or superstitious sources of information. Galileo was sentenced to house arrest for the last years of his life on the grounds of religious heresy. One gets the distinct feeling that some in the scientific establishment would like to charge vaccine critics and holistic medicine supporters with scientific heresy.

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    Public internet forums are often dominated by partisan extremists who have little tolerance for opposing views. Self-appointed defenders of science, for example, paint GMO critics as anti-science, regardless of the fact that there is growing evidence that GMOs are creating a number of problems for the environment, the food chain, and the health of the populace. Defenders of science tend to get away with their partisan rhetoric largely because we live in a highly scientific age. Most people who haven't stopped to give serious consideration to these issues tend to passively assimilate the general cultural zeitgeist, which is the belief that science is correct simply by virtue of the fact that it is science. All one has to do is make a statement, then claim that it is supported by science, and most people will tend to believe it. It's a perk that comes with acquiescence to conventional cultural consensus.

    Faith-Based Scientific Skepticism

    Public opinion regarding controversial scientific topics is heavily influenced by an increasingly superficial media that fails to dig deeply and instead chooses to amplify views held by corporate stakeholders. The media also tends to parrot opinions espoused by those who make the most noise. Such noisemakers often represent small but very vocal minorities.
    One such minority is a growing community of scientific skeptics who see themselves as the guardians of science, ready to protect it from imaginary forms of scientific blasphemy or, as skeptics call it, pseudoscience. Organized skepticism is fast becoming a malignant force that masquerades as science but functions as a very deceptive and effective form of scientific thought police. Its purpose is to undermine all perceived threats to what it believes to be the one and only true form of legitimate science. In the process of attacking, among other things, holistic therapies like homeopathy, acupuncture, herbalism, and even nutrition, skeptics inadvertently besmirch the reputation and credibility of genuine science itself.
    It is important to understand how and why we have come to this impasse. Most people are not aware of the differences between science, pseudoscience, and scientism. Even the most well educated, including many scientists themselves, are not familiar with the issues involved. The culture war between science and religion, also known as the science wars, is largely a function of misinformation. At bottom, it is a function of a blurring of the lines between scientific fact and scientific faith.
    As a society that has forsaken its spiritual roots, American culture instead tends to increasingly place its faith in science, technology, medicine, and what has been referred to by many as the myth of scientific progress. Bolstered by our collective faith, science and technology march on, usually to the benefit of corporate interests, but often without critical review, without ethical restraints, and at the expense of our environmental and personal well-being. Those who dare to question science are likely to be the recipients of a great deal of scorn.
    So, how can we extricate ourselves from this blind allegiance to science that isn't really science? It will require self-education and discernment, starting with an examination of the very nature of science itself. The definition of science, that discipline that we all think we understand, is not as clear-cut as it seems. Even philosophers of science disagree over the definition of science. It turns out that science isn't as scientific as one would think, primarily because it is based upon a number of very important foundational beliefs that, paradoxically, are not capable of being scientifically verified.

    Dueling Paradigms

    Few would deny that conventional medical science operates from a materialist paradigm. It assumes the physical body to be the foundation of all health. All illnesses of body and mind are presumed to have their origins in the physical body. Medicine focuses its resources on learning how to manipulate the material body as a means of curing illness.
    Holistic healing operates from a very different paradigm. It assumes body, mind, and spirit to be integrated facets of the whole person. Holism recognizes, therefore, that material interventions alone are not sufficient to heal all illness. Additional routes to healing include techniques that involve an understanding of human consciousness, bioenergetics, and other factors that play a role in the development and treatment of disease.
    Both paradigms utilize a variety of scientific methodologies. No one disputes that conventional medicine is a science. It is also true that acupuncture, homeopathy, Ayurveda, and Traditional Chinese Medicine, for example, are sciences in their own rights. They are, however, very different sciences in the sense that, just like conventional medical science, they begin with different scientifically unverifiable foundational assumptions.
    It can be said that conventional medicine is not a pure science because it must begin with metaphysical propositions. Conventional medicine assumes the physical body to be the foundation of its metaphysical worldview (even as it gives lip service to the power of mind), while holistic medicine views illness as a more complex phenomenon involving material and immaterial factors. It is not possible to prove that one philosophy is any truer than the other. One can only judge them by the results that they produce. It is clear to me that each has its strengths and weaknesses and that, together, they form a more complete system of healing.

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    Differentiating Science From Scientism


    Why is it, then, that conventional medicine is the one faction that consistently puts forth the view that it is the only viable scientific approach to illness and healing? The answer to this question is to be found in our definition of science. Science is a methodology by which we attempt to understand the natural world. Scientific method is a means of investigating natural phenomena. Science is a very practical tool for acquiring knowledge. It is not rigid and inflexible. Science changes over the course of history. And I believe that science will continue to change along with the evolution of human consciousness.


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    Scientism, on the other hand, is an ideology that has many similarities to fundamentalist forms of belief. The common denominator to all fundamentalist positions is the absolute certainty of the rightness of their claims. They leave no room for dissent or differences of opinion. The fascist impulses of scientific fundamentalism serve first and foremost to restrict freedom of thought. Scientism is an abuse of scientific authority that justifies just about any claim that one wishes to make, all in the name of science. Scientism is, in actual fact, anti-science. Mainstream medicine would do itself a big favor by separating itself from all scientistic influences.
    Problems naturally arise when one is unable to discern the differences between science and scientism. This is precisely the loophole that skeptics seek to exploit. It is not enough to simply engage in scientific activities; skeptics believe they must go out of their way to invalidate or, as they like to say, "debunk" all competing sources of information and knowledge. The hallmark of scientism is its need to discredit perceived threats to its worldview. This is accomplished by sowing confusion about the nature of science, what it is, and what it is not. Scientism makes claims that sound scientific but that have no actual basis in science. Skeptics understand the power of real science and they co-opt that authority to advance their unscientific agenda. That agenda is aimed primarily at maligning three main targets: 1) religious belief 2) all forms of holistic medicine and healing, and 3) fields of knowledge that seek to understand human consciousness such as parapsychology, psychic studies, and spirituality.
    For example, scientistic propaganda is used to silence critics of vaccines and GMOs as if their concerns have no basis in science, an idea that is patently absurd. Scientism also seeks to counter religious beliefs regarding the origins of the universe as if to say that the Big Bang is a proven scientific fact. Of course, the Big Bang is a theory, a theory perhaps as speculative as any higher intelligence-mediated theory of creation. Neither position is provable via any scientific methodology. Scientism even attempts to refute religious belief itself on the grounds that there is no scientific proof for any god. Skeptics seem to have forgotten that there is no way to disprove the existence of a god either. It should be noted that a large percentage of skeptics are atheists who find solace in the illusion of certainty that their worship of science provides.
    Given the rising tide of scientistic fervor in technologically advanced cultures, it is easy to see why the culture wars have intensified. Spiritually inclined persons are rightly concerned about scientific imperialism and its general disrespect for religious freedom of thought. Some religious leaders who are unable to differentiate science from scientism understandably direct their criticisms at what they perceive to be the lack of appropriate boundaries of science in general.
    Genuine science acknowledges that its domain is limited to things of the natural world. Serious scientists understand that religion lies outside the bounds of scientific knowledge. The real culprits, therefore, are skeptical promulgators of scientism. Skeptics fail to respect these bounds and make it their business to violate them—in the name of science.
    As a consequence, issues of real scientific concern such as climate change get muddled in the minds of the general public and mixed up with fabricated scientistic concerns like the supposed lack of safety of homeopathic medicines or the so-called irrational beliefs of citizens who demand that foods with GMO ingredients be labeled. Holistically minded patients have similar concerns regarding scientistic imperialism. So do holistic medical practitioners, perhaps even more so, because their activities pose a direct threat in the minds of those who place their faith in the authority of materialist medicine.

    Dishonorable Strategy and Tactics

    Skeptics are known to resort to a variety of deceptive, unethical, and malicious tactics in order to achieve their goals. One such tactic is to claim that the idea they wish to discredit is simply not scientific. If it is not scientific, the argument goes, then it must be discounted. Taking the logic a step further, if it is not scientific, then it must be pseudoscientific. "Pseudoscience" is nothing more than a medical swear word used to silence heretical ideas. It is a bogus, fabricated term that conveys the message, "your science doesn't play by the rules of our science." The real pseudoscientists are skeptics who promote unscientific ideas in the name of science.
    I will use my own profession of homeopathic medicine as an example here. Skeptics have been known to repeat ad nauseum the mantra that homeopathy is not a science because there is no scientific evidence to support it. Any reasonable person with an open mind will fast discover that this is simply untrue. Homeopathic methodology is quite rigorous and there is a growing mountain of research that confirms its biological activity and efficacy. To state otherwise is an outright unscientific falsehood. Similar claims as to the lack of evidence in support of many nutritional and herbal treatments are also baseless. But this doesn't stop skeptics from intentionally making such claims.
    When skeptics are reminded of the existence of numerous homeopathic studies, their next tactic is to find fault with the quality of those studies. They scour the research looking for the tiniest of flaws, which are then magnified beyond all reason. If the same critical eye were turned toward conventional medical research, there would be nothing left standing. The entire foundation of scientific medicine would burn to the ground.
    When unsuspecting persons challenge skeptics by sharing their personal success stories involving homeopathic treatment, they are excoriated for being naïve, unscientific amateurs whose experiences constitute invalid evidence in the court of scientific opinion. This, to me, is perhaps the most insidious consequence of scientistic fundamentalism. It has programmed many, professionals and laypersons alike, to believe that their personal experiences are "merely" anecdotal and count for nothing. But "anecdotal" is really just another one of those disparaging medical swear words. It is used to denigrate first-hand experience as unredeemably biased, as if to say that nothing can compete with pristine research studies conducted by objective-minded scientists. How else would it be possible for doctors to ignore first-hand accounts by parents who report the regression of their previously normal children into autistic states with hours or days of being vaccinated?
    The irony is that those purportedly unbiased research studies turn out to be the same ones funded by vested corporate interests, the findings of which are routinely overturned by the latest studies also sponsored by Big Medicine. The not so secret secret is that randomized controlled trails (RCTs) have been elevated to their undeserved superior status largely to serve the pharmaceutical industry. Such studies allow tiny increments of statistical difference to justify the value of drugs that are oftentimes quite dangerous. The goal is FDA approval. Once side effects are acknowledged and the damage has been done, the monetary returns have been maximized. The cost of liability constitutes only a small percentage of drug company profit margins.
    When skeptics are desperate they resort to the final tactic, which is to claim that homeopathy is not scientific because it cannot be explained in conventional medical terms. The blatant silliness of such a proposition should be clearly evident. By this standard, all scientific investigation of poorly understood phenomena would come to a halt. And a drug like aspirin would have to be taken off the market on the grounds that scientists don't really understand how it works.

    Advantage Holism

    What really bugs the medical thought police is that holistic medical theory is actually onto something very important. And that poses a threat to medical sovereignty in the sense that holism has developed effective methods of dealing with mind-body problems in ways that conventional medicine is unable to emulate. By virtue of its materialist philosophy, conventional medicine has no ability to understand the mind-body connection and its role in the development of illness. And its dogmatic nature ensures that an ever-growing array of holistic methods for influencing the psyche, consciousness, and the bioenergetic life force remain off limits to mainstream medicine. Short of changing its metaphysical framework, the only thing left for medicine to do is to downplay the role of mind in illness while simultaneously imposing its outdated views on the scientific world by a variety of unsavory means. That translates into a growing tendency to embrace fundamentalist scientistic tactics in order to maintain its grip on power.
    To recap, modern technological medicine plays a distinct role in health care that it has legitimately earned. It deserves that status so long as it acknowledges its own limitations and respects the roles that other forms of medicine and healing can play. The minute medicine seeks to impose its views, it loses its status as a science and becomes an ideology. The mainstream media and general public are often confused by misinformation spread in the form of scientistic propaganda. That propaganda can be spread by unwitting mainstream practitioners, by corporate interests, by avowed skeptics, and by confused laypersons. Organized skeptics exploit this confusion in order to advance their anti-holistic medicine agenda.
    As a consequence, most people's opinions regarding holistic medicine are based upon a spectrum of information ranging from deliberate lies to trustworthy information. A great deal of discernment is required to sort fact from fiction but, for those who make the effort, it can translate into potential rewards in terms of personal health and well-being.

    References:

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/monsanto-launches-smear-campaign-against-doctor-oz-and-the-world-health-organization/204652/
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/practical-alternative-measles-hysteria
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fda-scrutinizes-homeopathy-urgent-action-required-1
    http://www.anh-usa.org/did-the-media-just-buckle-from-biotech-industry-pressure/




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    Larry Malerba, DO, DHt is a classical homeopath, osteopathic physician, and educator whose mission is to build bridges between holistic healing, conventional medicine, and spirituality. His new book is Metaphysics & Medicine: Restoring Freedom of Thought to the Art and Science of Healing. He is also the author of Green Medicine: Challenging the Assumptions of Conventional Health Care. Dr. Malerba is board certified in Homeotherapeutics, is Clinical Assistant Professor at New York Medical College, and past president of the Homeopathic Medical Society of the State of New York. Visit his website: spiritsciencehealing.com/
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    : This article is not intended to provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of GreenMedInfo or its staff.

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    June 7th, 1967 +49x360 'Circle Years' as 17,640 Days = September 23rd, 2015
    for September Equinox 2015 at 08:20 UCT
    June 7th, 1967 + 49 'Civil Years' as 49x365+13 LeapDays as 17,898 Days = September 23rd, 2015 + 258 Days = June 7th, 2016
    June 7th, 1967 + 49 'Civil Years' as 49x365+13 LeapDays as 17,898 Days = September 23rd, 2015 + 258 Days + 7+7 Days (258+7+7=265+7 Gestation Days) = June 14th-June 21st, 2016
    for June Solstice 2016 at 22.34 UCT (20th)


    Naive stricken nabsers and wanna-be conspiracy followers have more than a few minor difficulties in their 'brainwashed' mindsets and thinking operandi to discern the well known historical nexus dates and literary references such as can be found in millennia old scriptures and lexicons, as well as countless libraries to separate the well known data base of the so termed 'ptb' from the material matter unknown to those self same 'would- or could be' echeloners and controllers.
    In their vain attempts to hunt and defeat the devils and demons and evil ETs created by their own creative minds as their own offspring and as the children of their metaphysical cosmic identities; they presume their own ignorances regarding the natural order of things to be shared by their perceived 'ptb' opponents.

    They remain unaware about the simple facts, that better informed historians, scientists and intelligent resarchers can actually count the days between historical and well documented and commonly understood and known events and that those 'students and experiencers of cosmic life' and notwithstanding their 'priviledged' or 'not so' status do not require to be 'insiders' into disinformation agendas from either the mainstream or the 'alternative' data dissemination agencies.

    Therefore the creations of artists and researchers, even if undertaken under the auspices of economic gains and social status, do not - in general - require clandestine operations and 'hidden ptb' clan associations.
    The existence of a Hollywood film, describing biblical narratives about 'Noah's Flood' and 'Hidden Keys' and 'Seventh Sons' become simple historical tools for the film makers and artists and can be researched and analysed by anyone interested in the symbols and the histories of the story tellings.
    The 'secret' information published in any form within the planetary sphere of the Gaian quarantine zone is not so secret, if this selfsame information; say the idea of the 7th Son's providence of finding a hidden key enabling a closer examination and revealing regards the cosmic nature and the universal order of things is accessible to all interested to create new narratives from the old.
    To consider the film making of say the '7th Son' as more than a embellished retelling of a millennia old story as some secret agenda of nebulous ptb associations exposes the puerile minds and fearbased disposition of nabsers more so, than some undefined 'hidden agenda' of the echeloners of the 'powers that be or could be'.

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    June 7th, 1967 +49x360 'Circle Years' as 17,640 Days = September 23rd, 2015
    for September Equinox 2015 at 08:20 UCT
    June 7th, 1967 + 49 'Civil Years' as 49x365+13 LeapDays as 17,898 Days = September 23rd, 2015 + 258 Days = June 7th, 2016
    June 7th, 1967 + 49 'Civil Years' as 49x365+13 LeapDays as 17,898 Days = September 23rd, 2015 + 258 Days + 7+7 Days (258+7+7=265+7 Gestation Days) = June 14th-June 21st, 2016
    for June Solstice 2016 at 22.34 UCT (20th)

    2014-2015.

    cern.

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    The 6 Alien Species Currently Fighting for Control Over Earth
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    The Anunnaki are in direct competition with the Draconians for control over mankind.
    It’s comforting to know the ‘gods’ fight for us.
    ...

    "Official statement by the ptb: You better believe it, or you suffer the consequences!"

    'Official statement by the PTB: "Lol!"---'



    Hundreds of sightings, abductions and first-hand accounts have made it possible to distinguish several distinct alien species that have been in cahoots with military forces, deciding our future without ever consulting us. Below are the least obscure ones we could find.

    1. The Sirians

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    Hailing from the Sirius B star system, the Sirians are as advanced as they are ancient. Throughout history, they have imparted their knowledge to human civilizations of their choosing. They gifted the ancient Egyptians with medical and astronomical information and the great pyramids and temples are said to have been built with their help.
    The Mayans also had a special relationship with the Sirians, who shared information with this enigmatic South American civilization. The extraterrestrial originating from Sirius B are believed to have played a part in the disappearance of the Maya, but not before ensuring they left behind amazing artifacts such as the crystal skulls.
    Another earthly civilization that benefited from the Sirian presence were the Atlanteans; it is believed that during the cataclysmic event that sunk Atlantis, the Sirians were instrumental in leading the rescue operations. Other civilizations have been influenced by the Sirians, the most notable case being that of the Dogon tribe of West Africa.
    Although they were more involved during our planet’s past, nowadays the Sirians play a more subtle part: technology exchange programs. They are often mentioned in connection with covert or exotic weapons research as well as time travel experimentation.


    2. The Short Grays

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    Also known as the Zeta Reticulums, the Grays are some of the most well-known aliens and commonly depicted throughout alien pop culture. They are the authors of most alien abductions.
    According to most descriptions, they stand 3 to 5 feet tall, have bulbous heads and over-sized black eyes. Although they possess a mouth, they seldom speak, as most communication is carried out telepathically. The short Grays are said to be a genetically-engineered worker race that are controlled by their superiors, the Tall Grays. Their telepathic abilities allow them to constitute a type of hive mind consciousness.
    Being genetically-designed to carried out scientific missions, the short Grays are emotionless and cruel. They are alo responsible for creating a human-gray hybrid race.


    3. The Tall Grays

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    Standing 7 to 8 feet tall, the Gray Masters are the ambassadors of most meetings between human and alien forces. They are always present at any diplomatic agreements with the global shadow government. Sources claim they originate from a star system in the Orion constellation.
    The Tall Grays supervise all abductions and human experiments but are seldom present during these events. They prefer to employ the services of their minions, the Short Grays. As it would seem, they are keen on developing a stable human-gray hybrid race, one worthy of inheriting Earth.
    An advanced, self-centered race, they place little value on human life. They consider us their property.


    4. The Alpha-Draconians

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    Corrupt and vicious, the Alpha-Draconians have infiltrated human society thousands of years ago. Although they came to Earth from their colonies on Alpha Draconis, their original home world is unknown.
    A decidedly giant reptilian species, they measure anywhere from 14 to 22 feet tall. Weighing an estimated 1,800 pounds, their muscular bodies are covered in green or brown scaly skin. They are an intelligent race, with large heads and reptilian eyes. Some accounts describe them as having tails or even wings.

    Contactee Alex Collier says he was allowed to share some details about these extraterrestrials:
    The Draconians are the force behind the repression of human populations everywhere in this galaxy, instilling fear-based belief systems and restrictive hierarchies.
    […]they’re extremely clairvoyant and extremely clever, and they can also be extremely sinister.”
    The Draconians view themselves as the first intelligent species to evolve in the Milky Way galaxy. Competitive and expansive, they have populated many worlds. Their immense egos allows them to see themselves as the rightful rulers of lesser evolved worlds such as Earth.
    Their continuous exploitation of the human race proves they consider us an inferior species.
    Reports say there are actually two types of Alpha-Draconians divided into two castes: the giant ones are part of a royal caste called the Ciakar while the smaller ones (8 feet tall) form a well-trained warrior class.


    5. The Native Reptilians

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    Often confused with the warrior caste of the Alpha Draconians, these reptilians are said to be native to Earth. The little information available for this species states that they were originally left behind by the Alpha-Draconians to colonize Earth.
    Their interaction with mankind goes back thousands of years, sometimes offering assistance but more often than not using us as a commodity. They have infiltrated almost all aspects of human life and hold positions of power. Reptilians manipulate our elites and rule our institutions and organizations. They built the financial system and influence all religions.
    The underground reptilian race is also said to control the media and all corporations. They are behind most crimes against humanity.

    6. The Anunnaki

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    An elite race of beings that originated in another galaxy they called Illyuwn. Their home world was a planet called Rizq. When Rizq was destroyed, they built an intergalactic vessel they named Nibiru.
    Before heading to Earth, the Anunnaki colonized the planets in the Orion star system. They arrived on Earth almost a million years ago, in search of gold and other valuable minerals that were scarce in the universe, but abundant here.
    In need of a workforce, they are said to have created mankind. Through genetic manipulation and in vitro fertilization, they upgraded the genus Homo to sapiens quality. Present on Earth since our inception, the Anunnaki have influenced every aspect of human life. We’ve inherited their patriarchal culture of violence and vengeance, it’s in our engineered DNA.
    The Anunnaki are in direct competition with the Draconians for control over mankind.
    It’s comforting to know the ‘gods’ fight for us.

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    The End of the American Age of the Mammonites!
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    Ezekiel 21:26-28 - King James Version (KJV)
    26 Thus saith the Lord God; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.
    27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
    28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord God concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:


     
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    Re: Lindsey Williams, Martin Armstrong And Alex Jones All Warn About What Is Coming In The Fall Of 2015

    Carol Today at 1:11 pm
    Love the music Bob. Mahalo nui loa 3562770023.

    Shiloh, you tend to always amaze me. Thank you for the post above. I think I want to go to the planet where it's peaceful and one just uses their mind to create they need. Being on earth is like living in the wild west adventure land. There be lion, bears along with short grays, tall grays, reptilians, tall whites, Sirians along with the other 147 Heinz variety morphing around.

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    It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.

    With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol









    mudra wrote:

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    shiloh wrote:

    The 6 Alien Species Currently Fighting for Control Over Earth
    Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:41

    % of readers think this story is Fact. Add your two cents.

    ...
    The Anunnaki are in direct competition with the Draconians for control over mankind.
    It’s comforting to know the ‘gods’ fight for us.
    ...
    (Before It's News)


    My two cents : a story.
    The battle between good and evil is deeply engrained in people's mind.
    No wonder it takes so many shapes, forms and colors when projected in the world.
    There is something obsessive about duality which makes people powerless.
    Not something to overcome in never ending battles but rather to transcend.

    Love from me
    mudra
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    Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
    ~~ Buddha ~~

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    In the deep listening and quiet stillness of the soul- all ways will be made clear to you in time.




    Mercie Cheries, Carol and Mudra regarding your deeper insights with respect to the present modus operandi and status quo upon this planetary orb named Gaea Gaia Mater by many cosmic inhabitants and intelligences.
    A brief journey into the mindsets of the ptb; the 'powers that be' and whose information received by President Jimmy Carter and others and as often mentioned by 'believers' and 'skeptics' alike is appropriate to 'shed some light of illumination' onto this scenario of 'ptb double speak' and the overall agenda of the Echeloners:


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    Two presidents have demanded that the UFO files be released. Both were disappointed.

    Truth or Not?


    When Jimmy Carter was running for President, he, like current President Obama, promised UFO conspiracy theorists that he would get to the bottom of the mystery and have all known UFO/Alien documents released to the public.
    Shortly after being elected, Carter contacted then CIA head, George H.W. Bush to demand that all sources of information regarding extra-terrestrial life and contact with said beings be released. Shortly after meeting with Bush, Carter was seen sitting at his desk weeping.
    The same thing happened when Obama demanded the same documents from the CIA. Barrack was also seen, and photographed, weeping at his desk.

    UFO enthusiasts are convinced that both Presidents, upon demanding the documents to be released, had been briefed on the actual dealings with an Alien race and the implications and dangers of releasing such information to the public. This has led many people in the pseudo-scientific world to believe that the U.S Government, among others, is cooperating with a dangerous race of Alien beings who have plans for the human race that are not so friendly.

    Those in the same community who hold Apocalyptic and Evangelical views believe this race is actually a type of demon mentioned in the Book of Enoch that is supposed to appear to the human race and misrepresent themselves as benevolent entities.
    Whether any of this is true or not is unknown, but Carter himself is a firm believer in UFOs as he has witnessed one himself. It is unknown whether Obama has seen any, but there are some who believe that Obama himself is not human. Some say he is a hybrid alien or the Antichrist himself.

    http://guides.wikinut.com/President-Carter-and-Aliens/3t7_cl-v/


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    What was so deeply disturbing as to make President Carter weep after being briefed on UFO's?

    As per the FOIA and details that were later confirmed, President Jimmy Carter and later, an aide to President Reagan, were briefed on the reality of the E.T. presence on Earth. What made these men so upset as President Carter was seen weeping afterwards? Also, an aide to President Reagan stated after hearing a briefing on UFO's that he was very concerned because he wanted his daughter to grow up in a nice world. What made these men so upset? I doubt it was the fact that E.T.'s are real but maybe the abduction scenario? These men already believed in the truth of alien visitation so it obviously was something bigger and deeper than just their belief. Are these beings underground? Are they experimenting or even eating us? What are your thoughts? Please ONLY SERIOUS ANSWERS. If you're abusive or rude, I'll report you to yahoo. Thank you in advance.

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    The reality of ET might change everything to the point that remaining discreet is the best way to govern. The Reagan aide is concerned about the terrorizing effect it would have on society: government would appear less legitimate if it was an "ant hill" by comparison to the others out there. Science's precepts about nature would be delegitimized . And for religion, teary eyed evangelicals would fear deconstruction, goverent coverup, space demons, and on and on. Civilization would never be the same for crazed, fearful revolutionaries, cult - worship; conspiracy naysayers - and the new vision of the night-sky.
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    He briefed four different American presidents on the ET reality. Jimmy Carter was keen to end the UFO cover up but when told of the religious implications he backed down.
    "I attended this meeting. Carter had strong Christian beliefs. When told that religion is man-made and probably unique to this planet he broke down in tears."
    Uncle Buba · 3 months ago

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    Carter was/is the worst of the presidents in the recent era. His crying was as a result of his inability to cope with his ineffective life.
    Wrenched · 1 year ago

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    Something like that I guess..
    "Mr President, There are numerous findings which approve that extra terrestrial entities were visiting Earth throughout human kind history and even before, even at present times they seem to monitor our planet. However it was not until 9 of august 1945 - 3 days after the a-bombs drop that they actively made formal contact directly with U.S President Harry S. Truman, they explained to him what we are about to explain to you. The E.T's are by far more advanced then we are and have significant part in our evolutionary process since the first dawn of man. Mr President humans exist in few hundreds planets with about same conditions as ours, all of them were seeded by the aliens for a purpose they refuse to reveal to us, they treat those planets as experiments, it seems however that when a civilization become progressed enough to destroy itself they are stopping the experiment and take a more active part in further development of the civilization, however this must remain a secret from the public. the aliens gave us two choices when met, one is to follow their guidance and achieve prosperity and the other is to be terminated. They also told us that not all planets in the experiments used lethal power after achieving it technologically in a manner that can compromise the security of the entire planet, however we as you know - did unleashed atomic bombs. It will take few hundreds of years to repair our behavior and until it is repaired we must follow their guidance or be destroyed, to show that they have capability to destroy us they will show a presentation for us very soon. Mr President they insist that letting the truth to the public will slow the process of repair in hundreds of years and if you will be found renegading those instructions you will be killed on their authority and later on be replaced."
    per · 10 months ago

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    "What was so deeply disturbing as to make President Carter weep after being briefed on UFO's?"
    ...he was probably told that they weran't real
    Ogre · 1 year ago

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    Maybe he knows something we don't?
    Reagan would cry when his jelly beans ran out.
    Jethro · 1 year ago

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140326214225AApCkR1



    This ptb, the PTB often refers to as 'The Echeloners' engages in an agenda of informative disinformation; meaning that the mainstream data base is providing both factual data and fabricated and invented data simultaneously. The general reader might term this scenario the 'spinning wheel of the interwoven information matrix' as created and presented by the ptb.
    The nature and identity of this ptb is well known and suspected by the general reader, both mainstream and alternative and depicts a historical evolvement from a general cultural concept engaging the 'means of exchange' of whatever commodities and resources available and then enabling social constructs of a economic and fiscal nature and of supply and demand to evolve and propagate. Many researchers and readers term this evolution from goldsmiths and metal forgers to barters, dealers and tradesmen and artiseans to culminate in socalled 'banksters' having evolved from aristocrats with their attachees to 'modern' cooperatives and cooperations and 'family clans' by birthright of cultural and historical legacies and inheritances; as well as obtaining 'exclusive' membership to often called 'secret societies' or clubs.

    What the general reader often fails to understand, is however the nature and actual origin of the data base the echeloners possess and have access to.
    And because those origins of the what one might term 'universal' or 'cosmic' information have been either sequestered and hidden or - whenever this information enters the public domain for discussion - ridiculed and.or suppressed this, their own 'priviledged' access to that data base.
    One major and often discussed and 'alternative' focus point from this information is the notion of extraterrestrial intelligences and UFO's and the presence of either or both benevolent and hostile aliens on Gaia. The discussion and debate on this subject matter, so becomes a 'non sequitur' or 'no go zone' for the 'public domain' of information sharing and debate and discussion, mostly coloured by mainstream media, such as TV and newspapers and the wordwide internet web.

    The other major and basically (by non-Echeloners), ignored focus point, but the crux of the matter for the ptb and directly responsible for their most favoured and 'desired' aspirational information base; is the existence of certain scrolls of antiquity, apparently containing 'encoded messages' and 'secrets of initiation', whose decipherments would greatly enhance and empower the 'insiders' so initiated in the decipherments of those 'hidden writings'. The general reader might compare those 'ancient scrolls' to 'alien glyphs' as found on the materials of construction of 'crashed' alien spacecraft.

    Without further ado; the Council of the Elders, here termed PTB and directly responsible for the 'distress' of members of the ptb, who became 'privvy' to certain information, the ptb is rather desirous to obtain; might engage in a conversational exchange with say the 'Chief of the Echeloners' in the following manner:

    A representative of the PTB aka the Council of the (24) Elders 'meets' a representative of the ptb, say in the 'Halls of the Seven Hills' of Rome; both participators having unrestricted access to the 'secret archives' of the ptb, related to what is known as the 'Vatican Vault of the Red Robes':



    PTB{ET from Outer Gaia Quarantine Space}: Observing the present state of the global affairs on Gaia and your bridging agendas, you seem not to have obtained more detailed information about the quarantine authorship codes Mr. X.!?

    ptb{ET from Inner Gaia Quarantine Space}: If you mean the Isaiah report and the Matthew sermon of Mount Zion; then I would say we remain somewhat 'in the dark' regarding their deepest interpretations, Mr Y!
    But yes, we still consider our 'reading' to be sufficient to understand the greater cosmic agenda of the 'creator observers' and our implementation of it as the cosmic agenda or 'Plan of the Universe


    Isaiah 53.1 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

    Matthew 24:14-28 - King James Version (KJV)

    14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
    15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, {whoso readeth, let him understand}
    16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    25 Behold, I have told you before.
    26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
    27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

    PTB: If this is affiliated and in concordance with the facts of the Council, then you will have realised the carcase of the eagles.

    ptb: Well we know your construction of the report and its implication of the Judah Lion of course and its parallel encoding patterns in the Nag Hammadi document.

    (7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

    (11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

    (56) Jesus said, "Whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world."

    (57) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the father is like a man who had good seed. His enemy came by night and sowed weeds among the good seed. The man did not allow them to pull up the weeds; he said to them, 'I am afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' For on the day of the harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned."

    (58) Jesus said, "Blessed is the man who has suffered and found life."

    (59) Jesus said, "Take heed of the living one while you are alive, lest you die and seek to see him and be unable to do so."

    (60) <They saw> a Samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to Judea. He said to his disciples, "That man is round about the lamb."
    They said to him, "So that he may kill it and eat it."
    He said to them, "While it is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse."
    They said to him, "He cannot do so otherwise."
    He said to them, "You too, look for a place for yourself within repose, lest you become a corpse and be eaten."

    Revelation 5:5 - KJV

    And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

    PTB: Indeed, you have discerned this meaning appropriately; but we are rather sure and judging by your patterns of manifestations, that your greatest aspiration of absolute illumination and understanding still remain elusive to your data systems.

    (1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."

    (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

    (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

    ptb: Well, we are well aware of those origins and originators and have engaged in extensive mining of the historical libraries to penetrate the authorship of the report of the observer agendas.
    And we know the mental discomforts and insecurities this agenda has instilled into the membership of our councils of the future states in their particular speculative models and continuances.
    One of our major emphasis investigations continues of course to engage the superhuman perception modus operandi.

    (17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

    PTB: Your aspiration of rulership is appreciated by the council and is a noble quest; however we observe your efforts of achieving this to not at all aligned with the status of Logos #17 at this stage of your implementation agendas.
    It is obvious to us, that your understanding of the Sophia remains clouded and incomplete in your human thinking and perception modalities; despite your by now suffient application of the information available to your researchers and 'think tanks'.
    It is evident to our analysis, that your lack of cosmic awareness, regarding the rulership remains as yet as your greatest hurdle to universal consciousness.
    Perhaps you should attempt to decode the following logistic to allow you to make progress in your ambitions.

    (81) Jesus said, "Let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses power renounce it."

    ptb: Yes, the council is divided upon the interpretation of that logistic. It has caused as number of internal divisions in the sub councils of the families regarding what the outsiders label as disclosure and participatory government.

    PTB:We have recorded all your attempts and endeavours in this regard and are prepared to release another key for your discernments. A correct interpretation of those encoding patterns would enhance your progress.

    (21) Mary said to Jesus, "Whom are your disciples like?"
    He said, "They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Let us have back our field.' They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them. Therefore I say, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let him dig through into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. You, then, be on your guard against the world. Arm yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will (surely) materialize. Let there be among you a man of understanding. When the grain ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

    (87) Jesus said, "Wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and wretched is the soul that is dependent on these two."

    (88) Jesus said, "The angels and the prophets will come to you and give to you those things you (already) have. And you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, 'When will they come and take what is theirs?'"

    ptb: Thank You for this hint from the council; I shall share your elucidation with the council. Are you prepared to release more information from the council at this time?

    PTB: You are welcome and in passing the council would ask the council consider the codes descriptive of the New World Order from the authorship of the logoistics.
    Consider, that those encodings became made manifest in word at a time, when the outside external global populus and lifeforms could not perceive of the flora and fauna native to Gaea Gaia Mater as anything besides a resource or danger to its own selfsame existence and survival. Then the extraterrestrial authorship of the encoding procedures should become even more clarified and exposed to the decoders, positioning themselves in the transformation from the human terrestrial status to its potential extraterrestrial cosmic propagator and descendent.

    Isaiah 11:6-10 - King James Version (KJV)

    6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
    7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
    10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

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    Isaiah 59 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
    2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
    3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
    4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

    5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.

    Cockatrice.


    6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
    7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
    8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
    9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
    10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noon day as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.
    11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
    12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;
    13 In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
    14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
    15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
    16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
    17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.
    18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
    19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.
    20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
    21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.


    Isaiah 65:24-25 - King James Version (KJV)

    24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
    25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

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    Matthew 24:34-36 - King James Version (KJV)

    34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.


    Romans 8:21-23 - King James Version (KJV)

    21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
    22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
    23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.


    1 Corinthians 15:54-56 - King James Version (KJV)

    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
    55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
    56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

    (11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"


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    empty. Re: Lindsey Williams, Martin Armstrong And Alex Jones All Warn About What Is Coming In The Fall Of 2015

    empty. shiloh Today at 3:30 pm
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    This is a commendable effort to decode the Oudenbosch cropcircle in Holland Carol and the decoder Anu Proph did a fine job in attempting to place logic before the all too pervasive fear mongering engaged in by both mainstream and alternative media alike.

    The decoder has appropriately zoomed into the year 2011 as somehow being important for the ET-Contact-Information agendas. He has also applied a sound analysis to derive the mathematical factor of 4.2 and a 'weekly scale', but has misinterpreted the circle sizes for the approach and retreat of an extra solar orb.
    This 'extra orb' has also been described as 'Vulcan' or a innermost planet orbiting the Sun in the scientific history not too far in the past.
    'Nibiru' is simply the 'archetyped' or symbolic (yet energized by the thoughtforms of the perceivers) 'Planet of fulfilling prophecy' and the realisation of encoding patterns (prophecies); often dating back millennia of years.
    The 'orb of destruction' or darkness is the 'Wormwood' of the 'Apocalypse' and is also the 'Blue Star of Hope Kachina' as mentioned here by Bob.

    Anu Proph has however misunderstood the simplicity of the crop circle geometry in superimposing this 'Nibiruan X-Planet' onto that geometrical schematic.
    This crop circle simply counts all the conjunctions of the year 2011 and constructs this in a 'Spiral Maze' with the dynamical motion of Mercury in 2011 then allowing its direct and reversed motions to divide the spiral into 4 year based sections mirroring and containing the days of 2011 within it as the 'Year of the Beginnings' of the 'Final Dispensations' to allow a 'New World' to become born and emerge from the ashes of an 'Old World'.
    This crop circle actually simply describes the year 2011 as the starting point of a 7-year period ending in 2018 and in concordance with the 70 years from the end of the second world war in 1945 and the atomic warfare, Roswell and the UFO scenarios and the discovery of certain previously mentioned ET scrolls known as the 'Dead Sea Scrolls' of Israel-Qumran and the Egyptian artifacts from Nag Hammadi.

    The Nibiru planet of Anu Proph is simply the planet Mercury and as he has correctly positioned in some of his diagrams as the planet travelling along the spiral construction.
    That the supposed 'red bigger planet' Nibiru is also Mercury, can be simply ascertained in looking at the original crop circle and noticing that 'quasi Nibiru' unwinds from a say stationary position aligned with Venus, the Earth-Moon system and Mars to the right in alignment.
    So there will be no planetary 'invasion' on or about November 7th and the completion of 2015; although the video shared does correctly describe the year 2015 as a sort of 'changeover' nexus date.
    Namely 2015 represents the mirror timezone in a 7-8 year period spanning from the start of 2011 to the end of 2018.
    Many detailed charts and diagrams vcan be found on this website and elsewhere, but I have added some commentary onto the original cropcircle photo shared below for some extra detail.

    As the Thuban council created this crop circle, I should know that the decoding descriptor below correctly presents the nature and detail and purpose for this crop circle.


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    Daniel 12 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

    2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

    4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

    5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

    6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

    7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

    8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

    9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

    10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

    13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.


    Revelation 11:1-4 - KJV
    1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

    2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

    3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


    Revelation 12 12:1-6 - King James Version (KJV)
    1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

    2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

    3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

    4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

    6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.



    Revelation 13:5
    And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

    Luke 4:25 - KJV
    But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

    Jonah 1:17 - KJV
    Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

    Matthew 12:40 - KJV
    For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.



    Daniel 9:27 - King James Version (KJV)
    27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. shiloh Today at 11:26 am
    July 1st|Midpoint Mirror|July 2nd of the 30 Days from June 16th, 2015 to July 16th, 2015
    To begin the second 3½ period imaged in the 7 years beginning in 2011.

    [5:55:22 AM-Monday, June 29th, 2015 +10UCT] raxnae: I'm curious, where does your brilliant mind come from, is it years of hard study, a natural gift, or what. Your scientific and mathematical calculations are always spot on and seem more advanced than the commonly used variants of today and you always seem so accuarate with your predictions on dates and events. Is this a result of being so connected to your et mind? I am just curious, and wonder why your gift isn't as appreciated as it should be in places where it is supposed to be.


    [5:58:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If I were so 'brilliant', then I would be able to reform the status quo the way many of us would like it to be. Unfortunately my human mental capabilities are rather limited and far off any 'genius' level, say in maths and science. My intent was always to engage other and more trained and smart folks to listen and further the proposals and reformed cosmology I worked on since my adult years. Now it is evident that this is not going to happen and that there cannot be any 'grass root' movement from the populus to actually usher in a 'New World'. Then the way I see it now, 'my brilliance' is not my own, but a say 'telepathic' or higher-D communication FROM the ETs and also the 'dead alive ones'. Therefore the dead scientists and greats of the past can simply USE my presence here to further their own ideas and agendas from their disincarnate or wavebody centred position and observation point.
    Now as it is necessary for the ETs to make comments and to have suitable channels and messengers in incarnation; anyone can become and participate in this agency.
    It becomes a question of adaptation and a sort of 'faith' in their agenda and the possibility to render the common dream of a 'New World' feasible and implementable.

    My actual forte and 'genius' is not science, but the 'meaning of the number codes and meanings' in the scriptures. But this is, as you know a taboo subject for many; as the many see religion and political control in the way those books are used by the ptb.
    And it is this 'nous', which makes us Thubans come across as arrogant and 'know it alls'. But this is necessary as the ETs themselves are NOT opinionated like humans are.

    All I can say about the Thuban Nous is, that it has a very deep and meaningful ET connection spanning milennia of mental evolution on this planet.
    Most folks are appaled by and reject anything 'Thuban' and many even hate it with a vengenance, being extremely uncomfortable with the subject matter.
    The few, who are drawn to it are not attracted to me or any other 'Thuban Dragon', but something within themselves, their soul consciousness say, is attracted and feels familiar and associated with the material.
    But overall, the decision making is ET and extraterrestrial and you should be aware of this to strengthen your own telepathic association with the ET Cosmic and Universal agenda.

    We call the ET understanding the Logos as you know and this Logos then becomes a particular logistics in the ET agenda.
    It suffices to say, that the mere presence of the 'Thuban Information Source', seems to be enough to allow the ET logistics to proceed in their own, globally and politically related, manner and focus.

    How folks react to 'Thuban data' is entirely up to them and not in our jurisdiction as long as we share the mental environment of Gaia in physicality.
    Should the 'Real Thubans' move their physicality into say the ET space; then this will allow an entirely new ballgame cosmic to evolve and develop.

    Many then ask the question: "Are the Thubans the Alpha Draconians?" and the Archons and say the Paa Taal of the Andromedean nabs described by Alex Collier?
    We will have to, but can expect, the ETs to answer this question at the appropriate time!

    [12:03:34 AM-Tuesday, June 30th, 2015 +10UCT] raxnae: Ah I see, that is very deep and insightful. You explained many of my queries and I thank you for the honest answer.

    [4:29:19 AM] raxnae: I was wondering what do you think of "Caesar's Messiah" or if you have seen it. It says the roman jew Flavious Josephous adopted into the Flavian dynasty of Rome was the historian who crafted much of the new testament and basically he and the Cult of Rome pushed to make the Emporer of Rome look like God, which is cemented by the fact that Titus Flavian destroyed the temple in 70 A.D. fulfilling Christ's prophecy.

    [7:08:53 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Look at posts #173 and #174 to see our detailed rebuttal of this Atwill nonsense. http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6759p165-the-factuals-versus-the-nabs or posts #178-#180 at http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/ind...-versus-the-nabs-new-age-bullshit.799/page-18

    [7:26:41 AM] raxnae: I see now that I think deeper about it those arguments are very valid, the gauls for example were a much greater threat and yet the Romans didn't do that sort of thing to them.

    [10:26:14 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes, as you can read in the linked comments from rational historians and critics, the Atwill proposal has no logical and historical basis, except personal application of literary license and inventiveness

    July 1st|Midpoint Mirror|July 2nd of the 30 days from June 16th, 2015 to July 16th, 2015 to begin the second 3½ period imaged in the 7 years beginning in 2011.
    This is the subject matter of the crop circle post decoded.





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