The Factuals versus the NABS (New Age BullShit)

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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. shiloh on Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:20 am

    Thuban Thoughts on the History of many Worlds - by the Orthodoxymoron Romanus of Golgotha
    Part Three

    Thanks for your comments. Could the UFO/ET phenomenon be from within Earth...rather than from outer space? Could 'alien' technology be ancient human(or reptilian) knowledge? Could the city states...including the Vatican...be controlled from within Earth? Is much of the ET phenomenon really demonic in nature? Is Earth's crust riddled with tunnels, cities, and bases? Is nuclear weaponry, anti-gravity, free-energy, and other space-age technology really from the Vatican Library...and/or other ancient texts stored underground...rather than back engineered from outer-space UFO's? Is that giant Earth sculpture representative of what is really within Earth? Could many of the church atrocities have been ordered from within Earth...rather than by deranged power and money hungry surface humans? Is the true God of the Universe largely shut out of Earth...leaving surface humans to deal with powerful human and reptilian beings(both physical and spiritual) from within Earth? Is the Pope the Vicar of Lucifer...rather than the Vicar of Christ? Does the church or Pope have any real choice in the matter? Are we really dealing with basically good people...negotiating with and battling dark underground forces?

    Am I a paranoid, neurotic, deluded wretch who is blaspheming God...and will be punished in the flames of hell...after the Jesuits get done with me? I'm sort of kidding...and sort of serious! I really mean well...and am trying to help...but there is the possibility that I am making things worse by raising these issues. My mind is not made up on any of these subjects...and probably never will be. I'm open to new information and re-evaluation.

    Thank-you for the link. I'm checking it out. The church seems to contain the best and the worst people in the world. There must be huge daily power struggles and debates within the church...behind closed doors. Have you former Catholics ever watched Pat Condell? He's a bitter ex-Catholic atheist! He's very rude and irreverent...yet he makes a lot of sense...and is very funny.


    I keep worrying that the people in the history books or on the evening news are not calling the shots...and that non-humans may be telling the people and organizations we love to hate...what to do. If I were an elite with immense power, wealth, influence, etc...I would probably try to create heaven on earth...and run as clean and tight a ship as possible. No human sacrifices, no financing both sides in wars that I started, no crashing stock markets and ruining economies, no starvation, no satanic rituals, no atrocities, no environmental nightmares, no extermination, no enslavement, etc, etc, etc. I would try to get the people of the world to really like me...and bypass all the corrupt and destructive bs...while I continued to live in my seaside estate...drive my Enzo Ferrari, attend social functions, etc. I see some of the smartest people doing the most bizarre, corrupt, and destructive things imaginable. I like what I see and hear when NWO people are interviewed...yet I hate the NWO. Sometimes I think the NWO people hate the NWO too...but don't have a choice in the matter. Perhaps I am being too kind to these people...but I am sensing something very evil behind what I think are front men and errand boys. Is Lucifer calling the shots? Is Lucifer a little old lady reptilian/human hybrid from Atlantis? Think about it...a very, very smart...very, very evil...and very, very cruel being wearing a flowing cape and a jeweled crown...issuing orders both verbally and telepathically...while sitting on a throne in an underground cathedral more dazzling than St. Peter's. Could this being be playing God and Satan at the same time...to control and enslave humanity? Far-fetched? Probably...but I'm thinking in this direction at this time. That could change in 5 minutes. I'm in the speculation business. Unfortunately I'm wasting a lot of time...driving myself (and others?) insane...and making no money. How stupid is that?

    I guess I'm looking for the highest standards and practice of psychology, ethics, and spirituality...without all of the ritual religious baggage. I don't want to start another religion...a true one this time. I don't want to be a spiritually bankrupt atheist. I don't want to channel ancient...and supposedly superior...disembodied entities. I just want to go through life without hurting, killing, stealing from...or otherwise screwing my fellow humans. Then I would like to get recycled...if it's not too much trouble.

    I found an interchange between Jordan Maxwell and Alex Jones to be very interesting. In this thread...I am not trying to blame the Catholics for all of the evil and destruction in the world. I am trying to get at what is behind many groups and individuals...which continues to divide and conquer us. In the recent Project Camelot interview with Joseph Farrell...he makes a comment regarding present day Germany...which seems to coincide with the Maxwell/Jones clip. I can't remember the details. Watch the interview...which is fantastic...and you'll notice it. Here is a clip of Malachi Martin being interviewed by Art Bell (warning: the video is graphic and the subject is exorcism). This stuff is real. Here is another one. I don't agree with everything in this one...especially the part about the Pope going to hell. I don't believe in heaven and hell as historically presented...and I certainly don't know the heart of anyone.





    Thank-you no caste. There is plenty of dirt...if one wishes to dig. I can only stomach so much...and then I have to move on to more pleasant subjects.

    golden lady: I'm glad you like the thread. It's sort of a necessary evil. I don't relish this subject...but it seems to be central to understanding how this world really works.

    If you want to really dig...read 'Murder in the Vatican' by Lucien Gregoire...regarding the death of Pope John Paul I. This book really made my hair stand on end. 'In God's Name' by David Yallop is another book which will keep you awake at night...

    To any practicing Roman Catholics: I'm not suggesting that you stop going to church...but I do think that being well informed is very important. Your local church and priests are probably a blessing to the community. It's just that I think there is a powerful dark side at the highest levels of the church...and that the visible church leaders may not be in ultimate control. I doubt that they are happy with the situation...but it may be nearly impossible to change things for the better. I think we are all in a lot of trouble.

    Jesus drove the money changers out of the temple with a whip. Perhaps this needs to happen again...

    Sometimes I wonder if the cathedral architecture, organ design and music...is really from underground cathedrals. Reptilians are supposedly builders. Masons are builders. Hmmmm. According to biblical theology...Lucifer was the preeminent musician in heaven. Hmmmmm. As far as I know...they don't know who designed Chartres Cathedral. Imagine that! Sometimes I wonder if organists find music of unknown origin waiting for them when they arrive at the church to practice. Notice how complex and abstract the above music is. Have you ever seen the sheet music? I have some by Bach, Widor, Vierne, Dupre, etc. Devilishly difficult. We supposedly received religion and technology from the reptilians and greys. What else did we receive? The Vatican Library may contain the comprehensive answer to this question. The truth is in there. I'm not gonna say another word...

    What would happen if church services and masses were music only? No liturgy. No sermons. Just music...complete with organ, orchestra, choir, and congregation? The pastors and priests would be counselors...and would officiate at special services and ceremonies. There probably is not an easy answer. I am beginning to have a problem with the concept of worship and praise. It seems to me that this is what Lucifer aka Satan really wants and needs...and that the God of the Universe doesn't want or need this sort of thing at all. It makes me wonder who is really being worshipped and praised on Sun-God Day. I love the music, architecture, glory, and grandeur...but I am seeing a huge and fundamental problem. This applies to all churches...and not just the Roman Catholic Church. I don't go to church.

    If I did go to church...and attended a Roman Catholic Church...I would probably consider myself to be a...Pope John Paul I, Bishop Fulton Sheen, Father Malachi Martin...Roman Catholic. Those who are in the know...in the Roman Catholic Church...really know. I would love to sit in a room full of Jesuits...and talk theology. Unfortunately...I might not make it out of there alive! They have a reputation...you know! I just hope that the dark forces can be converted or exorcised from the church...and the entire world. I continue to think that the Roman Catholic Church is a major part of the problem...and potentially a major part of the solution.

    Please consider the following thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13495&highlight=letter church It touches on some of the issues raised in this thread...and contains many positive solutions.

    Are the Vatican and Italy on good terms...or is there trouble brewing? The reason I ask...is the last post...and what Leo Zagami said recently when in 'prison'.

    One of the best kept Secrets of the Vatican is no longer a secret. It is now possible to purchase Indulgences Online with a Papal Account.

    My question continues to be...who is REALLY calling the shots? Is it a group of men sitting around at the Vatican...dreaming up all manner of evil and atrocity for Earth? Or...are these men TOLD what to do by evil aliens and/or evil spirits? If the second choice is the correct one...how much of a choice do they have in the matter? I presently consider the Pope to be the Vicar of Lucifer...rather than the Vicar of Christ. I really don't think he has much of a choice. Christ is supposed to mediate between God and Humanity. I currently think that Christ stands between Lucifer(the God of This World) and Humanity...and that there is a war between the Vatican and Christ. Somehow...the Vatican must betray Lucifer and embrace Christ. But this might result in the Battle of Armageddon. They have embraced Lucifer...and betrayed Christ...for a hell of a lot more than 30 pieces of silver...believe me. This is simply my personal speculation.

    I've said it before...I like Roman Catholics. I have had very good luck with Roman Catholics. This includes priests and musicians. Human history is very violent and sad. Roman Catholic history is simply part of human history. It is our history. I don't wish to single them out as being the source of all evil in the world. I really think that they have had to deal with the devil...literally...throughout their history...in ways we may not be able to even imagine. I just think that the truth...in all of it's gory details...needs to be told...NOW...no matter how upsetting and disruptive this may be. It is time. I'm not an expert or authority on these subjects. I'm just trying to face reality...historically and presently. My internal insecurity and turmoil keeps me searching. We need to see the darkness and the light...and then focus on the light. I would never get into an angry argument with a Roman Catholic regarding their beliefs. I don't think they are lost souls. They are part of the human race...and I am pro-human. We need to rethink everything...and religion is a big part of this rethink. Keep going to church...but keep getting informed. If you're not going to church...you don't need to go...but keep getting informed. There is no easy way to deal with this.

    PTL = Pass The Loot or Pay The Lady.

    Jesus didn't build churches and ask for money...so why do his professed followers do this? Are the Teachings of Jesus at the center of Christianity? Are you kidding? We worship fame, fortune, and power. So...preachers and churches gain fame, fortune, and power...by promoting a God of fame, fortune, and power. Clever.

    On the other hand...there probably is a place for churches and church schools. The two should probably always combine their facilities to save money. Ironically...one of my favorite examples of a cost effective church/school combination...is a particular Roman Catholic church and school...where I think they got just about everything right. But I tend to think that churches and church schools should not be tax-exempt. They should be treated like any other business. Perhaps the model should be one of schools with concert halls...where excellence in psychology, ethics, spirituality, the arts and sciences...is the norm. Preachers and churches should not lie to their people. They should not preach guilt and fear...along with fame, fortune, and power...in order to collect more and more money...often from sincere people...who can't afford to give...and who receive emotional problems in return for all of their time, money, and effort.

    I don't believe in hell...but sometimes I wish there really was a hell...if you know what I mean.

    Some of you might find the following thread to be interesting in the context of this thread. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=182404#post182404 Once again...just consider the factual information as part of the puzzle...without anger or rancor.

    Thank-you for your interest. Once again...I simply desire understanding regarding the most powerful visible organization on the planet. I have zero animosity. People should probably keep going to church. I just want a new reformation...based upon the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution. I realize that this is anathema...but that it is the right thing to do in modernity. I envision a non-penitential and non-sacrificial Namaste Mass based upon the Latin Mass. I love the art, music, ceremony, fellowship, etc...but the Satanists and Moneychangers need to be driven out of the temple. Powerful off-world forces would probably need to approve these heretical reforms. I'm not a theologian...but this is how I see things presently.

    I like the idea of a 5% National Consumption Tax to fund legitimate Federal Government functions and projects...and the elimination of all the stupid tax forms, loopholes, etc. Why does everything have to be insane?

    That video clip was creepy. Check out 'Murder in the Vatican' by Lucien Gregoire regarding the untimely death of Pope John Paul I. I've enjoyed attending masses...but I do not enjoy the intrigue, murder, and mayhem. 'In God's Name' by David Yallop is another interesting book...if you like reading about corruption, intrigue, murder, and mayhem.

    I have no issues with rank and file Masons or Roman Catholics. What concerns me is who owns and operates this Solar System? My concerns are very high up. This is all about Solar System Administration. I am very, very interested in Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer. Who are they...REALLY? I am very frustrated regarding all of the threads I have started. I am very frustrated with my life. I keep seeing the light vs dark battles...but I can never seem to pin anything down...or get any traction whatsoever. I can see clearly now...but I can't do a damn thing! I used to think that the answer was in the Bible. Then I lost my faith...and I thought that the answer was blowing in the wind. Now...I think that the truth is Down There...under the surface of the Earth and the Moon...in bases...possibly run by Draconian Reptilians.

    But I don't really know if these beings exist...and if they do...what their true nature really is. How many factions are there? Are they all bad? Are they all good? Are they a mixture of good and bad? Who's winning? Of Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer...who is the best...and who is the worst? Are they all Draconian Reptilians? Are they all Greys? Are they all Humans? Are they all of the above? Are they none of the above? Do they even exist? I've recently been thinking that Gabriel is the real problem...that Lucifer rebelled against Gabriel...and that Michael is the peacemaker. I'm toying with the idea that in "Heaven"...these three were at the pinnacle of the temple. I'm also toying with the idea that the "War in Heaven" was a three way power struggle among these three...which continues to this very day...here on Earth. Could this be getting at the heart of the "Alien Presence" which drove Bill Cooper to drinking and irritability? Bill said that it wasn't the Jews, the Catholics, or the Masons, et al. He said that it was the Mystery Schools and Secret Societies. This thing could be very hard to pin down.

    I think I'm going to go and see "Avatar" and "Legion" this week...which will probably really mess with my already very confused and feeble mind. All of this is interesting...but I don't think it's doing me or anyone else much good. I want the truth...but I fear that the truth may push me (and a lot of other people) over the edge. Be careful as you research these subjects. I think that this is necessary work...for those who can handle it...but that it is truly playing with fire. Don't take this stuff lightly! On another thread I said that I needed to find a good Jesuit...but that a good Jesuit is hard to find!! When the dirt really hits the fan...and I think it will...I want a good CIA agent and a good Jesuit to help me through what may be quite literally 'Hell on Earth'. Remember the CIA type of guy in the original "V" who saved everyone's @$$? They didn't like him...but he knew what the hell was going on...and he knew what to do. Something to think about.

    The Satanists and the Money Changers need to be driven out of the temple...in an Italian Police Van! Then they can go to work on the Deep Underground Reptilian Bases! Of course...the good Reps and Greys can stay!

    In a sense...a Government is a Church...and a Church is a Government. They are two sides of the same coin. The question is 'What is the nature of the Church and the Government?' A "Constitutional Theocracy is a form of government in which within the context of a modern democracy a particular religion is granted a central role in the legal and political system. In contrast to a pure theocracy, power resides in political figures operating within the bounds of a constitution, rather than religious leadership. A form of government (also referred to as a system of government or a political system) is a system composed of various people, institutions and their relations in regard to the governance of a state. ... Theocracy is a form of government in which a religion and the government are intertwined..." Could the United States of America be under a Constitutional Theocracy presently? Could the United States of America have always been under such a Constitutional Theocracy? See Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution. Was the 1954 Greada treaty simply an extension of this hypothetical Constitutional Theocracy? http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/future.htm Is the U.N. Charter superseding the U.S. Constitution a further expansion of a Constitutional Theocracy? To stop preaching...and go to meddling...How would the Roman Catholic Church function if it were based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...and was in complete harmony with the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Teachings of Jesus? Would a Pope be elected by the general membership every four years? Would the Teachings of Jesus, the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Will of the People... supersede Canon Law, the Curia, the Pope, the Black Pope (and whoever the Black Pope takes orders from)? Would this create chaos...or would it minimize evil and corruption? For Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom to work...the Roman Catholic Church would have to go along with it...and looking at history...this would be nearly impossible. The RCC is the biggest 'We Never Change Church' imaginable. The Sirius Powers That Be would have to order it done...or it would be a non-starter. For Sirius (and Alpha Draconis?) to sign-off on this...We the People of Earth would have to exhibit a significant level of Knowledge and Responsibility. There is presently a Forbidden Knowledge Explosion...and the BIG question is 'Will We the People of Earth Respond Responsibly?' How about a non-penetential and non-sacrificial Ecumenical Namaste Mass based upon the Latin Mass...Celebrating the Divinity Within Humanity? Now I'm really meddling! I'm an abominable heretic...yet I prefer the glory, grandeur, reverence, and awe of the traditional service...rather than the 'Jesus is my buddy, show-up in shorts and a t-shirt, praise-song, hippie reefer-madness'.

    In a sense...I desire a Minimalist Humanistic Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Theocracy . I simply desire that everything work out well for everyone...everywhere and everywhen.

    I just spoke with someone who says they are God. But they smoke and drink to smelly and loud drunkenness ...and say they've never heard of the Jesuits! I even tried to talk this "God" out of destroying the world. He seemed to like me...so maybe we have a chance! They reminded me of another person who told me they were going to walk on water...because they wanted a challenge! The first person considered America to be Babylon...rather than Rome being Babylon. I've heard other people say this as well. Leo Zagami hinted at this while in 'prison'. I hope Leo's OK. Sherry Shriner takes this view, as well. Bill Cooper pointed his finger at 'America' rather than Europe. Do Deep Underground Reptilian Bases under North America control even the Vatican? How deep is this snake hole? Is the inner Earth one big maze of snake holes...consisting of bases, cities, stargates, temples, cathedrals, leviton trains...all ruled by the God/Satan of This Prison Planet? I presently think that God is Satan...and that Humans are not in charge of Humanity. I'm seeing a very dark reality...with billions of victims. I really, really hope I'm wrong. I really don't enjoy seeing a demon behind every bush. (every Bush???!!!) Sorry...I couldn't resist. Nothing personal Magog!

    Update regarding "God". "God" has been looking for me...and I'm told that "God" dreamed that I was murdered...and this "God" appeared to be a 'vengeful God'...and very protective toward me...so I'm told. I found this fascinating and chilling...because I have talked very little with this person....and they know nothing about my controversial threads and comments here on Avalon. I worry about that sort of thing...because if people really took me seriously...and if I'm correct about a lot of things...the results could make life difficult for a lot of the custodians of the status quo...and I think they know this very well. But not very many people latch on to what I say...so there should be no real cause for concern...right? That's what I keep telling myself...but I'm not so sure. Believe it, or not, I'm trying to make life easier for everyone...including the really bad guys and gals...human and non-human. But just for the record...if anything happens to me...it was NOT an accident or self inflicted. All of my close friends and relatives know this...and they have my top 10 list of suspects. Do you really want to turn me into a martyr...and discredit your own cause? If anyone is ever really bothered or threatened by what I say...talk to me. I'm reasonable...and I try really hard not to be stubborn. I will stop...if asked nicely and reasonably. I'm trying to dig into things that are already out there...and then formulate positive solutions...even though they don't seem positive sometimes. I have zero animosity toward anyone...really and truly. But perhaps I should cut back on my posting. Maybe I will.

    Mercuriel...the BS didn't start with the Vatican...or start when the Vatican was supposedly infiltrated. This goes back to the War in Heaven...in my opinion. There seems to be a very bitter and ancient conflict between the Human and Reptilian races. I don't know the details...but this whole thing has been playing out in the Pleiades, Aldebaran, Sirius, Mars, Atlantis, Lemuria, Babylon, Egypt, Rome, Jerusalem...and in the Roman Catholic Church...right from the beginning of this organization. If it hadn't been them...it would've been another organization. This goes way deeper than corrupt men sitting around at the Vatican...dreaming up all manner of evil and atrocity for Planet Earth and the Human Race. It goes deep into Underground Reptilian Bases...I believe. A Draconian Reptilian may tell the Black Pope what to tell Pope Benedict. I think the top level Vatican hierarchy does exactly what they are told to do. That's just what I think. I don't really know...or have any inside information or proof. If I did...I probably wouldn't be safe on Pluto. Recently...I've been thinking that we are Prisoners of War on a Prison Planet with Grey Guards and a Reptilian Warden...and that the Reptilian Agenda for Earth is administered primarily through the City States (Vatican City, City of London, and Washington D.C.) and the United Nations. I tend to think that somehow we lost an ancient Human vs Reptilian war...and we are experiencing some sort of Payback Time. I'm speculating that the Universe is ruled by a Reptilian Universal Church Theocracy. My hope is that All Races will eventually embrace Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...which I think would be in everyone's best interest. I tend to agree with Jordan Maxwell...that we're pretty much $crewed. UNLESS...the Reptilians make an exception for this Solar System...and Theocratically Impose Human Sovereignty in this Solar System based upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...in the context of the United Nations...and applied to the entire Solar System. This would have to be a top-down implementation. Anything else would probably be a blood-bath. This could serve as a test. The Reptilians might want to make this their modus operandi if the test is successful. Who knows?

    Wow lisa! I wasn't expecting that! Thank-you for the link! I did read 'In God's Name' by David Yallop...and it was quite revealing. 'Murder in the Vatican' by Lucien Gregoire was even more revealing. I'm hoping that the church can be completely reformed and purified. When Jesus tried to reform the church...he got murdered...and subsequently ignored and superceded...and put on bloody and nearly naked display throughout the world...in the form of the crucifix. When Pope John Paul I tried to reform the church...he got murdered. And it sounds like Pope John Paul VI was murdered as well...for attempting to clean things up.


    Your Comment: Nay Brother - Scream Your Truth to the Rafters...

    Stand...

    The Roman Catholic Church was taken over by Forces Loyal to the Fallen Ones on June 29th, 1963. It was then signified by the carrying from that point forward by the Pontiff Pope Peter the VI and all others since, of the Crooked or Bent Cross (Which is an Esoteric Symbol of the Antichrist).

    Pope John Paul the II and others have sat in a Chair with an Inverted Cross - Again the Anti-Christ Symbol, and If You think that They've just missed that one while setting up the Area for His audiences - Then You haven't studied their Protocols in the right way. They miss nothing when setting up for a Papal audience and it's ALL on Purpose. Bank on that...

    EG.

    Fish Hat = Dagon or Poseidon Worship...

    INRI = Ishtar / Nimrod / Rah Marduk / Isis (Inner Doctrine for the Initiate)

    INRI = Acronym of the Latin inscription 'IESVS·NAZARENVS·REX·IVDÆORVM' (Jesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaeorum), which translates to English as "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews". (Outer Doctrine for the Profane)

    I could go on Ad Infinitum...


    Your Comment: Did I say that ? That It started with the Vatican ? I did not...

    Hmmm - I don't much appreciate Baiting and I've seen alot of It lately around here.

    The Post was "Secrets of the Vatican" wasn't It ?

    I gave some. Simple...

    Again - Please do not Polarize My posts...
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    Peace, Light, Love, Unity and Harmony.

    Namaste,

    Mercuriel


    My Comment: I wasn't "baiting" or "polarizing your post". You indicated that the real trouble in the Roman Catholic Church started on June 29, 1963. I indicated that the real trouble started with the War in Heaven...and that the Roman Catholic Church is merely one more vehicle for implementing a dark agenda for Planet Earth and the Human Race. What about the Crusades and the Inquisition? What about the Dark Ages...and the mental anguish imposed upon countless millions of people throughout the centuries? What about the Nazi/Vatican relationship? You commented. I commented. You got mad. I won't trouble you further. I won't disturb your peace, light, love, unity, and harmony. I really don't like posting...and this is one more reason to stop. I don't get paid to do this. I was having a good day. Namaste?

    Could the pedophilia be somehow Interdimensional Reptilian related? Is there a Demonic Dimension to this whole mess? What about the disappearance of children? Could this somehow be related to the pedophilia situation? I think the clergy of all faiths get targeted by demonic forces. I think that anyone who tries to do the right thing gets targeted. I believe that unseen entities are watching me type this message. I often talk out loud to these entities...and thank God they don't talk back. Sometimes I flip them off...and swear at them! Didn't Martin Luther throw his ink well at them? I still want that Solar System Exorcism. I still want a completely reformed and purified Roman Catholic Church. If this doesn't happen...all efforts to uplift Humanity will be in vain. My dream of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom will be dead in the water...and a non-starter. All I will have accomplished is to get myself on the Red List aka the Dead List. Better Dead Than Rep.

    The 'Law of Confusion' is a descriptive and appropriate term...but I tend to eschew obfuscation...and to espouse elucidation. A Christocentric eschatological theological approach to scriptural studies which utilizes the concept of comprehensive concentration...which assumes the red-letter teachings of Jesus as being fundamental...with the remaining portions of the biblical canon as being merely contextual...cross-referencing utilizing a Strong's Concordance...and applying the accepted norms of grammatical-historical hermeneutics...is supremely beneficial regarding definitively and devotionally ascertaining the Christ Conscious Aspects of the First Source and Center of All Things...to fully experience Jesus as Lord in modernity...being careful to exegete...rather than eisegetically twisting and corrupting the sacred texts to conform to canon law (there is no substantial body of evidence which substantiates transubstantiation)...so as not to become a reprehensible and reprobate hermeneutic whore...a cursed Judas Iscariot in dire need of prostrate penetance, confession, repentance, and reconciliation...and in grave danger of burning for all eternity as a sinner in the hands of an angry God. World Without End. Amen.

    What Would Rudolph Bultmann Say?
    What Would Jonathan Edwards Say?
    What Would Edward Shillebeeckx Say?
    What Would Pat Condell Say?
    What Would SaLuSa Say?

    Don't take anything I write too seriously. I'm just sort of thrashing around...spewing all manner of speculation and smart-@$$ comments. I really mean no harm. I guess I'm trying to get everyone to think in unconventional ways. I don't have the answers...only questions and suggestions. I'm not an authority on anything. My last comment was pretty much accurate...but I hammed it up a lot. I didn't really mean the last part of it...but I just couldn't resist. Please...nobody should take that personally. I am Not 'I AM'! I am not even ex-cathedra! I am, I am, I am, I am...I am deluded...yes I am! And so is Elizabeth Claire Profit!!!

    I can't imagine how difficult it is to administer the Roman Catholic Church. The internal and external politics must be a real pain. Everything they say and do...can and will be used against them. I speculate that they have malevolent non-humans...above and below them...telling them what to do...with the angry and rebellious masses to the right and left of them...their trusting flock in front of them...and a closet full of skeletons behind them. What fun!

    I loved visiting numerous RC churches and cathedrals. I loved visiting Florence and the Vatican. I did not...however...enjoy visiting the Colosseum...which is just down the street from the Vatican. It's the Colosseum and Demonic parts that trouble me very, very deeply. Now about that Solar System Exorcism.

    I'd love to hang out in Modena...eat lots of good Italian food in the gastronomic capital of Italy...drink a bottle of fine wine with Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer...and spend some quality time at the Ferrari factory. Someone told me that the Pope has the 400th Enzo Ferrari! I actually asked a Ferrari representative about this...and they just smiled. I'd also like to camp out at Monza...and watch the Ferraris and beautiful women...while arguing the fine points of theology and cosmology with a renegade Jesuit! Then...I'd like to go back to Sorrento...and watch a beautiful sunset over the Bay of Naples.




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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. shiloh on Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:07 am
    Yggdrasil

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    magamud wrote:

    Im just talking straight to you Oxy because you deserve it. You project Genocide when you dont know the relation of Death to life. You do not die. Your energy transforms. We are trying to earn our existence in this Flesh. Without this knowledge the harvest or the Orobourus sounds arbitrary. When in fact its Mercy. Shall our species continue in Devolution? Shall we continue to be on life support? You and everyone here should be commending themselves to be at the End. ITs a tribute to your constitution. You are learning what is Gods plan.


    Jesus is part of humanity. Prophets are part of the same system. This is just the real evolution of man and his sovereign place in Consciousness! This is the justice of the universe. Everyone knows it. Don Juan, Osho, Buddha, Krishna, etc etc etc. It all comes back to the One law the loving god of creation.

    Jesus allowed himself to be murdered by man, so he could resurrect and show the power of man. That man has nothing over you, but the one who can forgive sin=IGNORANCE does. This was to show the tale of man and the harvest.

    Original sin=Ignorance had to happen if you want to be in flesh and sovereign. God did not forsake us. You will sin {Be Ignorant} as long as you do not know god. Your soul is not eternally dammed. You will be pissed that the signs were in front of your nose and you did not see it, but you will get over it. Take a vacation and try it again. Life goes on...

    Instead of sacrificing our Sin=Ignorance we sacrifice others to bridge the gap. This is the nature of our species and existence. It is because we are made in his image. We are so close to him that it creates radical passion in us. Sexual disfunction is just one expression of our devolution. We were made to populate the earth! Everything in moderation. Everything balanced. The Road is narrow!
    Jesus left because he showed Gods power. What more could anyone need to know at that time. IF Jesus stuck around it would have created Co-dependence and you would not have been sovereign. This is the meaning of what faith is and why we use it. This is a blessing for our own individuality. Jesus has never left and has prepared the way for the Creator to remind us of his laws. Jesus has prepared a seat next to him during his physical absence. Jesus is care taking the burning now. Nothing wrong with this picture from here. Thank God....

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    Thank-you magamud for clearing that up for me. I have a couple of study-lists which will help me get a better understanding of these issues and concepts. I think I need to just read and read and read -- and let go of a lot of the rest of what I've been doing. I might try to write some sort of a sci-fi novel (which would probably be much different than this thread). I need to figure out a way to generate some revenue. I am getting more and more uncomfortable with my line of thinking -- so I probably need to give it a rest. There's a time and a place for everything -- and my time has probably come and gone -- without me even realizing it. You all seem to be doing just fine without me -- so perhaps it's time to move on -- in more ways than one. Perhaps I should just watch the infowar and the god-off. Perhaps I should prepare to clean-up the mess when it's over. Perhaps I should simply hold the coats. Perhaps it is time for me to get Sirius.


    The Blue Star Kachina And The History Of The World Logos

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    Thiese videos relate to particular individualised remembrances as 'Running Water', a wisdom keeper of the Cherokee in 1313 and links to the Hopi prophecy of the Blue Star Kachina, symbolised by the 'Skyblue Dragon' neutralising the 'Red Dragon' of the Apocalypse as the Christ-Antichrist archetype in Revelation.12 in the next two videos.




    Both, the Blue Star Kachina and its Red Star Kachina image, manifested in the World of Old Gaia on June 25th, 2008 to fulfil the Prophecy of the Hopi and to herald the 'Coming of the New World' after a period of Preparation, Insemination and Gestation in a magnificent convergence of the Native Prophecies of the Elders and the 'Sayings of the Ancients' as encoded in scriptures and scrolls of many kinds and including the 'Book of Revelations' of John of Patmos of the Apocalypse of the Armageddon = Dragon Made.

    Red dwarves like Nibiru; binary 'death stars' like Nemesis and cometary extrapolations like Elenin serve to manifest certain encoded archetypes like the 'Wormwood' of Revelation.8.10-11 and can be associated with natural astrophysical phenomena in such symbolic fashions and in context of a metaphysical and 'higher dimensional' timeline encoding and logistic.



    27/06/2008

    In La'kech - I Am Another Yourself!
    This is the Mayan Code of Honour, given from Hunab Ku to Quetzalcoatl in the Loom of the Maya. IAmWhoIAm and I shall give you information as to the future of this planet earth and its communication with the realms in which I reside. it is perhaps most convenient to consider the speaker of these words as being a ET Cosmologist or Omni-scientist extrapolated from this planet Earth, meaning from another world either past or future present.
    First of all, this information is free and is given in the symbol of Running Water, who had a life experience as a Cherokee Medicine Man so 700years ago in the continent known as Northern-America. The below excerpt is taken from a website of mixed emotions and agendas, but describes a real identity you all know. I present this story for your perusal and shall elaborate following.




    Once upon a time on the plains of the land that would someday become South Dakota, lived a Cherokee brave whose name was White Star. Being a brave in his tribe, he was a warrior and a hunter and was a great asset to the tribe. Being so physical, he was strong and well muscled, but with his hunting, he was a runner, so he was also quite slender. Anyone would think that one of the women of his tribe would capture his heart, but that was not to be. As he hunted a buffalo one day, he came upon a beautiful maiden from another tribe. She was resting amidst the shade of some trees and drinking from a brook, and her name was Desert Rose. The pair took to each other straight away and after getting to know each other, agreed to meet again, which they did, again and again and again. Before too long, they were in love.

    In her village, however, she was engaged to a man named Walking Stick, named for his great height and gangly body. Her family had set her up with him, and she did care for him, but her heart belonged to White Star. Her relationship to the Cherokee brave was discovered, and she was exiled from her tribe when she refused to give him up. The Cherokee readily accepted Desert Rose into their village, and she married White Star.

    White Star had a friend he grew up with. His name was Running Water and he was destined to be a Healer. White Star and Running Water spent as much time as possible playing together and doing the things friends do, but much of Running Water’s life was spent as the apprentice of the tribe’s medicine man. White Star considered him his best friend.

    When Running Water grew up, he was declared a healer, and he took up the trade alongside the medicine man, although now he certainly had more free time. He spent more time with his childhood chum and they grew close, close enough that they fell in love. It just happened. White Star’s friends were, of course, Desert Rose’s friends, and she liked Running Water very much. With his blessing, they married, and all three of them shared a Tipi and started a family. White Star and Desert Rose had children together. One night, a group of white men and soldiers came into their camp under orders. They went from tipi to tipi, killing those within and taking their children.

    Running Water awoke and went outside as two soldiers were approaching. They were drunk, and determined to follow their orders, although the booze kept them from feeling pain over the things they were doing. Running Water begged them to leave, telling them that there were children inside and that the woman was with child, but they didn’t understand the Cherokee language. They killed him, and then went inside and killed Desert Rose and White Star as they slept. The child that Desert Rose was carrying was Running Water’s. They never woke up. The children were taken, and, like the others, placed in white schools to be ‘civilized’.

    The three were not to be separated forever, and they came back, spread out across the world, but they found each other once more and they loved each other. Perhaps this time, they would have the chance the live their full life together.


    Who I'd like to meet: Any of my family who managed to survive the invasion in our village I would like to see Running Water and White Star again Any other Cherokee/Native Americans; I would like to hear from them too


    In La'kech!

    Running Water was and is Tony B. whose messages are now fading out. We know, that he often called himself as Running Deer, which bespoke of his Love for his friend White Star and their shared Love for Desert Rose.
    There is an additional story to the one above, as there was another squaw, called Shadow Dancer, which was to Running Water as Desert Rose was to White Star.

    Here is the story; Running Water might have told this story before; but here it is again for your consideration.

    Shadow Dancer was a beautiful Cherokee maiden, who loved to move her body in dance and self expression during the day and beginning at an early age. But at night when the men danced about the totem poles and the ceremonial fires to the beat of the drums, women were not allowed to participate and so Shadow Dancer danced with the men, but at a distance as so not to draw suspicion to her doings. But from this activity, Shadow dancer was named.

    Most of the men knew what Shadow Dancer was up to anywhy and tolerated her behaviour.
    Running Water too was enarmoured by this Dancer and admired her courage.

    Shadow Dancer became very curious about the secret of the men and as was the custom, this secret was contained in the medicine pouch, the warriors carried around their neck.

    So one day, as Running Water was bathing in a lagoon supplied with water from a waterfall; Shadow dancer sneaked up to Running Water's medicine pouch to peek at its contents.
    She found the feather of an eagle, a tooth of a grizzly bear and various pebbles, rocks and artifacts in the pouch.

    Running Water caught Shadow Dancer and found himself in a dilemma.
    It was strictly forbidden for a squaw or maiden to discover the contents of the medicine pouch, because and as it was believed, this would take the power of the warrior given by the great spirit manitou away.

    It was a man's initiation to be separated from his tribe and wigwam. He had to go away into the wilderness and find his spirit guides and collect the token symbols of conquering his fears and the elements. Running Water had gone away at the appropriate time and had faced his inner demons and had collected his personalised tokens and placed them into his medicine pouch.

    And now Shadow Dancer had discovered his spirit-magic and what was he to do?
    Here then Running Water decided that the only way for him not to lose his spirit-magic, was to initiate Shadow Dancer as his 'Other Self' and the concept of a Twinship Squaw Warrior was born.

    And so Shadow Dancer agreed to participate from then on as a female warrior and to share the spirit-magic of Running Water.
    And so Running Water and Shadow Dancer became lovers, but not in the form of White Star and Desert Rose, but in the form of a Oneness in two bodies.
    And so it was, that Shadow Dancer too shared the tepee of White Star and Desert Rose with Running Water.



    In La'kech!

    So I am giving a simple message and this message is given in the honour of the Maya and the honour of Running Water aka Tony B.
    The channel Tony B. has ceased to exist as an emissary of Hunab Ku and I wish to commemorate him in a song, he wrote for his beloved Shadow Dancer in the identity of Running Water.


    In the Shadow of Love!

    Here I am, so alone staring at my reflection on the floor.
    How I wish, that my baby would come soon, walking through my door.
    So long I've been waiting for you - in the shadow of love
    - in the shadow of love.

    Where are you my sweet lover, why do you keep me so in despair?
    Everything would be so beautiful, should your love begin to care.
    Come on my baby, take me gently - touch me deep inside, oh yeah
    - touch me deep inside oh yeah.

    Imagine me, my love, my hot body wrapped around you in delight.
    Feel your ecstacy, your desire to have me forever in your sight.
    I dream about you day and night - come on my darling, let us be
    -come on my darling, let us be.

    We could elope entwined my love, like butterflies gliding in the wind.
    Amidst the flowers a new world for us to find, love never to rescind.
    Upon the wings of mighty eagles, we shall soar
    - into our paradise - into our paradise.

    Here I sit, looking at the magic of my clever crystal ball.
    Do I hear the chimes of heavenly bells, answering my call?
    My love is so true, come and release me
    - from the shadow of love - from the shadow of love.

    Composed for Solid Gold: November 29th 1998.
    Dedicated to Sonja and Karen and all their sisters.
    And personally written for my darling Veritas Eikona.

    TonyB. (Emmanuel Melchisedec) aka Abraxasinas.





    The Rising of the Sun, the Running of the Deer and the Flow of the Waters

    The holly and the ivy,
    When they are both full grown,
    Of all trees that are in the wood,
    The holly bears the crown

    Yuletide Carol from Druidic Origins
    Tony 104 of a native Indian emblem of the Running Deer!!!








    Blessings and Joy on the Return of the Light

    (posted by Jordan Stratford+, 21.12.2004)

    (H)e(S)e(H)=TwinSoul=GoDoG=DoGoD
    LIAFAIL=50=CIRCLE=PACIFICAP=64=8x8=ISRAEL=EXODUS.3.14
    YaHWHeY=95=Excalibur=IAMTHATIAM=Scorpio=Neptune=59=DRAGON

    I bid you all farewell!






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    Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    Raven on Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:52 am
    shiloh wrote:
    Yggdrasil

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    This gnostic insight of Magamud de Yggdrasil was retrieved directly from the Thuban library of Akbar Ra and is here legacized in context with the New World Dawning


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    magamud wrote:

    Im just talking straight to you Oxy because you deserve it. You project Genocide when you dont know the relation of Death to life. You do not die. Your energy transforms. We are trying to earn our existence in this Flesh. Without this knowledge the harvest or the Orobourus sounds arbitrary. When in fact its Mercy. Shall our species continue in Devolution? Shall we continue to be on life support? You and everyone here should be commending themselves to be at the End. ITs a tribute to your constitution. You are learning what is Gods plan.


    Jesus is part of humanity. Prophets are part of the same system. This is just the real evolution of man and his sovereign place in Consciousness! This is the justice of the universe. Everyone knows it. Don Juan, Osho, Buddha, Krishna, etc etc etc. It all comes back to the One law the loving god of creation.

    Jesus allowed himself to be murdered by man, so he could resurrect and show the power of man. That man has nothing over you, but the one who can forgive sin=IGNORANCE does. This was to show the tale of man and the harvest.

    Original sin=Ignorance had to happen if you want to be in flesh and sovereign. God did not forsake us. You will sin {Be Ignorant} as long as you do not know god. Your soul is not eternally dammed. You will be pissed that the signs were in front of your nose and you did not see it, but you will get over it. Take a vacation and try it again. Life goes on...

    Instead of sacrificing our Sin=Ignorance we sacrifice others to bridge the gap. This is the nature of our species and existence. It is because we are made in his image. We are so close to him that it creates radical passion in us. Sexual disfunction is just one expression of our devolution. We were made to populate the earth! Everything in moderation. Everything balanced. The Road is narrow!
    Jesus left because he showed Gods power. What more could anyone need to know at that time. IF Jesus stuck around it would have created Co-dependence and you would not have been sovereign. This is the meaning of what faith is and why we use it. This is a blessing for our own individuality. Jesus has never left and has prepared the way for the Creator to remind us of his laws. Jesus has prepared a seat next to him during his physical absence. Jesus is care taking the burning now. Nothing wrong with this picture from here. Thank God....

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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. shiloh on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:40 am


    Pair Production in Quantum Mechanics and Wave Superimpositions

    Raven wrote:
    Ravenavatar.

    Mercuriel wrote:
    mercur12.

    And Wikipedia is an Authority ??? It should be called - "Write It Yourself-a-pedia".

    1890901109.

    Yeah, don't even check out the Info - LOL. Sounds about right and BTW - Many real Whistleblowers have most of their personal Info wiped for various reasons as it suits the powers that be when those People don't even exist. Can You say Bob Lazar...

    I mean - If some of them didn't tell You their names - They wouldn't exist at all. Take everything with a grain of salt like Oxy has already said - But Wikipedia ? Really ? You might as well say "My Best Friend's Cousin's Daughter's Mother said"...

    215880.

    At any rate - Thanks for Your Input without 3 Pages of sophistry accompanying It.

    91919.


    Oh dear! I quoted the wiki reference specifically because it said that page was in jeopardy of being deleted because of the discrepancy in factual accuracy. Also it was to point out the obvious, which was that if wiki can take a second look at this guy then perhaps others should too.
    Bob Lazar was a con man looking for a quick buck and made a bit of money selling his bs story about working at area 51 to the gullible NABS masses.

    [8:48:09 PM]Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar

    [8:48:22 PM]Sirius 17:
    For the propulsion of the studied vehicles, Bob Lazar claims that the atomic Element 115 served as the fuel. Element 115 (temporarily named "ununpentium" (symbol Uup)) reportedly generates a minuscule gravity field which can be tapped and greatly amplified because the field happens to extend just beyond each atom's outermost electron shell. Exactly how this field is accessed, however, remains unclear. But the end result is allegedly a highly directional gravity distortion field. Under proton bombardment, furthermore, it is claimed that the atoms of Element 115 produce antimatter particles which participate in a process of extremely efficient energy production for powering any and all systems and subsystems within the craft. The mass of the nuclear fuel aboard each craft was said to be approximately two kilograms and was enough to last for several years before requiring replenishment.

    [8:48:28 PM] Sirus 17: this should give you a good laugh lol
    [8:49:04 PM] Sirius 17: ETs using nuclear fuel
    [8:49:08 PM] Sirius 17: right
    [8:49:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: [3:48 PM] Sirius 17:

    <<< furthermore, it is claimed that the atoms of Element 115 produce antimatter particles which participate in a process of extremely efficient energy production for powering any and all systems and subsystems within the craft


    [3/11/2014 3:40:45 PM] Sirius 17: Re: Aquaries1111 Corner
    Post Mercuriel Yesterday at 2:46 pm

    And Wikipedia is an Authority ??? It should be called - "Write It Yourself-a-pedia".
    Whistle
    Yeah, don't even check out the Info - LOL. Sounds about right and BTW - Many real Whistleblowers have most of their personal Info wiped for various reasons as it suits the powers that be when those People don't even exist. Can You say Bob Lazar...
    I mean - If some of them didn't tell You their names - They wouldn't exist at all. Take everything with a grain of salt like Oxy has already said - But Wikipedia ? Really ? You might as well say "My Best Friend's Cousin's Daughter's Mother said"...
    Heh heh
    At any rate - Thanks for Your Input without 3 Pages of sophistry accompanying It.
    Musical


    [3/11/2014 3:40:54 PM] Sirius 17: what a smart ass he is
    [3/11/2014 3:41:24 PM] Sirius 17: i am a sophist? ummm no that would have to be him the one using faulty, unproven and shoddy reasoning
    [3/11/2014 3:44:05 PM] Sirius 17: i spit water out of my nose when i read the Bob Lazar thing. He actually thinks he is some kind of credible witness too i guess lol
    [3/11/2014 3:44:12 PM] Sirius 17: bunch of bogus bs
    [3/11/2014 3:44:59 PM] Sirius 17: bob lazar was a con man looking for a quick buck and made a bit of money selling his bs story about working at area 51 to the gullible NABS masses
    [3/11/2014 3:48:14 PM] Sirius 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar
    [3/11/2014 3:48:26 PM] Sirius 17:

    For the propulsion of the studied vehicles, Bob Lazar claims that the atomic Element 115 served as the fuel. Element 115 (temporarily named "ununpentium" (symbol Uup)) reportedly generates a minuscule gravity field which can be tapped and greatly amplified because the field happens to extend just beyond each atom's outermost electron shell. Exactly how this field is accessed, however, remains unclear. But the end result is allegedly a highly directional gravity distortion field. Under proton bombardment, furthermore, it is claimed that the atoms of Element 115 produce antimatter particles which participate in a process of extremely efficient energy production for powering any and all systems and subsystems within the craft. The mass of the nuclear fuel aboard each craft was said to be approximately two kilograms and was enough to last for several years before requiring replenishment.

    [3/11/2014 3:48:33 PM] Sirius 17: this should give you a good laugh lol
    [3/11/2014 3:49:09 PM] Sirius 17: ETs using nuclear fuel
    [3/11/2014 3:49:13 PM] Sirius 17: right
    [3/11/2014 4:04:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Reply with that to that nabs morons
    [3/11/2014 4:04:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lazar is total BS irrespective of wiki
    [3/11/2014 4:04:49 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [3/11/2014 4:04:58 PM] Sirius 17: how are you?
    [3/11/2014 4:08:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Doing a chart after having a very very weird dream night before last
    [3/11/2014 4:08:34 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I cant tell you yet as I have to finish something first but you will be interested
    [3/11/2014 4:08:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: How are you with Jacob?
    [3/11/2014 4:08:54 PM] Sirius 17: oh yeah
    [3/11/2014 4:08:58 PM] Sirius 17: not good
    [3/11/2014 4:09:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Today is a very potent day The last of the Abomination
    [3/11/2014 4:11:21 PM] Sirius 17: i am so tired of it all today
    [3/11/2014 4:11:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes take it easy for a couple of days. It is a pressured time
    [3/11/2014 4:12:31 PM] Sirius 17: i have not been having a good few days here
    [3/11/2014 4:12:36 PM] Sirius 17: no dreams
    [3/11/2014 4:12:39 PM] Sirius 17: can't sleep well
    [3/11/2014 4:12:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: [Monday, 3 November 2014 3 PM] Sirius 17:


    <<< furthermore, it is claimed that the atoms of Element 115 produce antimatter particles which participate in a process of extremely efficient energy production for powering any and all systems and subsystems within the craft

    Utter science nonsense


    [4:14:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: antimatter requires pair production to be created from super high energy collissions
    [4:14:07 PM] Sirius 17: i will come up with 3 pages of shi20 for him to read too

    [3/11/2014 4:13:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is pseudo science galore
    [3/11/2014 4:13:14 PM] Sirius 17: i am looking for some debunking videos
    [3/11/2014 4:13:34 PM] Sirius 17: to reply to Mercs idiocy
    [3/11/2014 4:14:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Antimatter requires pair production to be created from super high energy collissions
    [3/11/2014 4:14:07 PM] Sirius 17: i will come up with 3 pages of shi20 for him to read too
    [4:14:10 PM] Sirius 17: just because lol
    [4:14:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
    This claim requires antiprotons in the first place to be created with protons from super frequency gamma rays.....(Actually, you can't just make an antiproton by itself, you have to make a proton/anti-proton pair. So your reactor needs to put in 2 "protons-worth" of mass-energy into each proton in the beam.)

    [3/11/2014 4:15:14 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He despises you as a sophisticado
    [3/11/2014 4:15:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well nabs and disinformation alright - he believes in Urantia
    [3/11/2014 4:16:04 PM] Sirius 17: he is really ridiculous
    [3/11/2014 4:16:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Look at the company of like believers like Carol and DD
    [3/11/2014 4:16:35 PM] Sirius 17: but you can see, all i did was quote wiki and it really got under his skin lol
    [3/11/2014 4:17:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: wiki is biased, even a bit Zionist, but against quasi science and anything deviating from orthodoxy
    [3/11/2014 4:17:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So it is not liked by the conspiracy nabsers
    [3/11/2014 4:18:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Wiki is scientifically very sound and good, but you wont get the pioneering science from it
    [3/11/2014 4:18:36 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i quoted it specifically because it said that page was in jeapordy of being deleted because of the discrepancy
    [3/11/2014 4:19:05 PM] Sirius 17: to point out to them that if wiki can take a second look at this guy then so should they
    [3/11/2014 4:19:09 PM] Sirius 17: hello....'
    [3/11/2014 4:19:24 PM] Sirius 17: oh no, it is on the internet, it must be true
    [3/11/2014 4:20:25 PM] Sirius 17: i mean seriously, what does the government do with real whistleblowers?
    [3/11/2014 4:20:36 PM] Sirius 17: where the hell is Snowden exactly? lol
    [3/11/2014 4:21:05 PM] Sirius 17: snuggling up to the Russians for hells sake
    [3/11/2014 4:21:22 PM] Sirius 17: yeah Bob is sooo important
    [3/11/2014 4:22:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Snowden is a real whistlebower
    [3/11/2014 4:22:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lazar and co are fakes
    [3/11/2014 4:23:24 PM] Sirius 17: most of the so called Camelot whisleblowers are fakes
    [3/11/2014 4:23:45 PM] Sirius 17: they all belong to a huge NABS circuit and they are all friends promoting each others work
    [3/11/2014 4:24:25 PM] Sirius 17: here let me interview you and next month we have this seminar in Ecuador and guess what??? You are invited!!
    [3/11/2014 4:24:40 PM] Sirius 17: and on and on it goes
    [3/11/2014 4:25:04 PM] Sirius 17: full page color glossy adds in the local newspaper ect
    [3/11/2014 4:25:24 PM] Sirius 17: oh come see whistleblower so and so, only 299.99
    [3/11/2014 4:25:35 PM] Sirius 17: what a deal!!
    [3/11/2014 4:26:44 PM] Sirius 17: but wait, there is MORE, we have lined up 6 whistleblowers and cut the price in half, you can come for the whole week for just 159.99....screamin hot deal!!
    [3/11/2014 4:28:17 PM] Sirius 17: we'll even throw in a moon rock signed by Buzz (Lightyear) Aldrin himself
    [3/11/2014 4:28:45 PM] Sirius 17: and the year after that we'll come out with Toystory 56
    [3/11/2014 4:46:35 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: lol
    [3/11/2014 5:09:26 PM] Sirius 17: http://web.archive.org/web/20061220030435/http://www.serve.com/mahood/lazar/critiq.htm
    [3/11/2014 5:09:47 PM] Sirius 17: well it is not quite 3 pages but i am sure he'll enjoy reading it
    [3/11/2014 5:09:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No this is good lingo
    [3/11/2014 5:10:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Showing the 'pseudo scientific ramblings' etc
    [3/11/2014 5:10:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Naughty Juju
    [3/11/2014 5:10:34 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But well doing
    [3/11/2014 5:11:09 PM] Sirius 17: oh i hope it pisses him right off
    [3/11/2014 5:11:37 PM] Sirius 17: Merc can get his pric11 in a bind over nabs artists, i have to point it out
    [3/11/2014 5:11:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It might, but he is so 'involved', he will say this is a conspiracy against Lazar
    [3/11/2014 5:11:55 PM] Sirius 17: of course
    [3/11/2014 5:12:07 PM] Sirius 17: which is exactly what Stanton said too
    [3/11/2014 5:12:30 PM] Sirius 17: but it will be classic if he says it
    [3/11/2014 5:12:48 PM] Sirius 17: because the videos and evidence against Bob all point to a fake conspiracy
    [3/11/2014 5:13:00 PM] Sirius 17: so it will make Merc look all the more an idiot
    [3/11/2014 5:13:07 PM] Sirius 17: to an intelligent reader anyhow
    [3/11/2014 5:13:49 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

    "Lots of impressive sounding stuff about reactors and bombarding with protons and all that. But read it again. Antimatter and matter are converted into energy. Fine. But where does the antimatter come from? From element 115 when it is "bombarded with a proton" by the ship's reactor. Hmmm. And just exactly HOW MUCH energy would your reactor have to put into each proton to have it create an antiproton?? Well, exactly the mass energy of an antiproton! And how much energy do you get back out when the antiproton annihilates? EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT YOU PUT INTO CREATING IT!!"

    [3/11/2014 5:14:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: See this is what I said in the above?
    [3/11/2014 5:14:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Add the convo sans the ad hominems
    [3/11/2014 5:15:32 PM] Sirius 17: awww i did add the convo
    [3/11/2014 5:15:40 PMM] Shiloh Za-Rah:

    [3/11/2014 5:15:43 PM] Sirius 17: but the add hominems are the fun part
    [3/11/2014 5:15:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will add that
    [3/11/2014 5:16:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he might ban you lol as a sophisticado
    [3/11/2014 5:16:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Save it on spruz of xen though as they might delete it





    THE BOB LAZAR FRAUD

    December 1997
    (Updated January 2011)
    By Stanton T. Friedman


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    Pierce College Stephanie Asher
    Incredible claims have been made about Bob Lazar for years. He supposedly is a physicist with an MS in Physics from MIT and an MS in Electronics from the California Institute of Technology. He was a “Scientist” for Los Alamos National Laboratory, and obtained a job back-engineering UFOs at a very secret site S-4 near Area 51 in Nevada through noted Physicist, the late Dr. Edward Teller.

    Supposedly he figured out how saucers work using Element 115 — matter/anti-matter, etc. He was able to steal a small quantity of 115 from the 500 pounds available, but this was stolen back. There was indeed an announcement in early 2004 about the production of 4 atoms of element 115 by operating a huge European accelerator for many weeks. It has a very short half life so there is no way to accumulate pounds of it. He supposedly came forward with his story despite death threats because he thought the public has a right to know. Videotapes are available with his claims.

    It is all BUNK.

    Not one shred of evidence has been put forth to support this story: No diplomas, no résumés, no transcripts, no memberships in professional organizations, no papers, no pages from MIT or Caltech yearbooks. He also mentioned, in a phone conversation with me, California State University at Northridge and Pierce Junior College — also in the San Fernando Valley, California. I checked all four schools. Pierce said he had taken electronics courses in the late 1970s. The other three schools never heard of him.

    The page from the Los Alamos National Lab phone book with Lazar’s name on it clearly states that it includes employees of the DOE and outside contractor, Kirk Meyer. “K/M” follows Lazar’s name. This proves he worked for K/M, not LANL.

    I checked with LANL’s personnel department for Lazar’s name and that of an old colleague. They found my guy, but not Lazar.

    He was publicly asked when he got his MS from MIT. He said “Let me see now, I think it was probably 1982.” Nobody getting an MS from MIT would not know the year immediately. He was asked to name some of his profs, He said: “Let’s see now, Bill Duxler will remember me from the physics department at Caltech.” I located Dr. Duxler. He’s a Pierce Junior College physics prof, and never taught at Caltech. Lazar was registered in one of his courses at the same time Lazar was supposedly at MIT! Nobody who can go to MIT goes to Pierce JC, not to mention the rather long commute between LA and Cambridge, Mass.

    I checked his High School in New York State. He graduated in August, not with his class. The only science course he took was chemistry. He ranked 261 out of 369, which is in the bottom third. There is no way he would have been admitted by MIT or Caltech. An MS in Physics from MIT requires a thesis. No such thesis exists at MIT, and he is not on a commencement list. The notion that the government wiped his CIVILIAN records clean is absurd. I checked with the Legal Counsel at MIT — no way to wipe all his records clean. The Physics department never heard of him and he is not a member of the American Physical Society.

    When he declared bankruptcy in the mid 1980s for almost $300,000.00 he listed his occupation as a self-employed film processor. With MS degrees from MIT and Caltech? Caltech would not have accepted him for an MS program, if he already had one from MIT.

    His propulsion scheme sounds good (as do many science fiction stories), but makes no real sense especially in view of how difficult it would be to add protons to #115. Gravity wave amplification sounds great but what does it mean?

    He could not have gotten a Compartmentalized Security clearance having operated a brothel. His W-2 form from the Department of Naval Intelligence totals under $1000.00, at most a week’s pay for a scientist. You can’t get a security clearance in a week.

    Scientists leave trails. Lazar is NOT a scientist. He couldn’t even answer scientific questions put to him. An excellent review of Bob’s “Physics” can be seen at web.archive.org/web/20061220030435/http://www.serve.com/mahood/lazar/critiq.htm.

    I should add that Bob is a bright and talented guy who operated a jet powered car, put on fireworks displays, and apparently helped physics professors working at the Los Alamos Meson accelerator facility.


    Lazar Critique

    by Dr. David L. Morgan

    In 1996, I was asked to review the content of a Bob Lazar website by an online acquaintance. Since then, my critique has been posted to Usenet discussion boards, featured on web pages, and taken on something of a life of its own. I still get email about it monthly, which is quite amusing, considering it’s been almost 5 years since I wrote it. Since the original posting was intended to be an informal email, the tone was somewhat harsh and flippant, and some sections were a bit too dismissive. I decided recently that I would try to put together a revision of the now-infamous paper. That revision is presented below.

    After reading an account by Bob Lazar of the “physics” of his Area 51 UFO propulsion system, my conclusion is this: Mr. Lazar presents a scenario which, if it is correct, violates a whole handful of currently accepted physical theories. That in and of itself does not necessarily mean that his scenario is impossible. But the presentation of the scenario by Lazar is troubling from a scientific standpoint. Mr. Lazar on many occasions demonstrates an obvious lack of understanding of current physical theories. On no occasion does he acknowledge that his scenario violates physical laws as we understand them, and on no occasion does he offer up any hints of new theories which would make his mechanism possible. Mr. Lazar has a propensity for re-defining scientific terms, and using scientific language in a confusing and careless way. For these reasons, I don’t feel that Lazar's pseudo-scientific ramblings are really worthy of any kind of serious consideration.

    I will focus on the parts of Lazar's text which I took the most exception with- most of these excerpts relate to particle physics, which is my field. Lazar's text is in boldface. He begins by describing the principle behind interstellar travel...

    This is accomplished by generating an intense gravitational field and using that field to distort space/time, bringing the destination to the source, and allowing you to cross many light years of space in little time and without traveling in a linear mode near the speed of light.

    I’m less bothered by the wording of this passage now than I used to be, although I still think it’s misleading. If you are distorting spacetime with a gravitational field, it produces a very specific kind of distortion, and a very specific kind of attraction. That’s what gravity IS – a distortion in spacetime, at least according to general relativity. And gravity attracts EVERYTHING. A gravitational field is a gravitational field...you can't pick and choose which objects it has an effect on. So, going by what Lazar says here, I still say that if you were to generate a gravitational field intense enough to warp spacetime and "bring the destination to the source" you'll also bring everything else in the nearby universe to the source too! If Mr. Lazar had really distorted spacetime like this back in his "Area 51" lab, every object on the face of the Earth would have rushed into New Mexico. Before they crashed back in the 50's, the alien saucers would have sucked the Earth right out of orbit!

    Now I’m no expert in general relativity, but I believe that there ARE solutions in GR which do involve distortions of spacetime that are not “gravitational” in nature. (In other words they would not “attract” things outside of the distortion.) There are serious scientists that do serious work on wormholes and warp bubbles and other mechanisms which could allow faster-than-light travel by taking advantage of distortions in spacetime. As this research stands right now, it seems clear that the energy requirements which would be required by this kind of travel are unimaginable by any standards – even the most fanciful extrapolations of alien technology. I’m talking about an entire star’s-worth or even a galaxy’s-worth of energy! More mass/energy than could be contained in a tiny saucer, or even all of New Mexico for that matter.

    There are currently two main theories about gravity. The "wave" theory which states that gravity is a wave, and the other is a theory which includes "gravitons", which are alleged sub-atomic particles which perform as gravity, which by the way, is total nonsense.

    These statements by Lazar are "total nonsense". There is only ONE currently accepted theory of gravity: General Relativity. In GR, gravity is described as a distortion of spacetime, not as a particle or a wave. There are phenomena known as "gravitational waves" which exist in GR, but this does not seem to be what Lazar is talking about. Lazar says that gravity IS a wave. It isn’t a wave. The "gravitons" which he speaks of are a feature of QUANTUM gravitational theories, and I think they require a little explanation.

    All physicists realize that the theories of QM and GR are incomplete, because they are mutually incompatible. In order to have a complete theory, theoretical physicists are looking to combine the two into a unified theory which will involve a quantum theory of gravity. There are currently no quantum theories of gravity that work. But even though a satisfactory theory does not yet exist, there is nothing at all nonsensical about gravitons. When an adequate quantum theory of gravity IS formulated, the energy of the gravitational field will be quantized. This quantum of the gravitational field is what physicists call the graviton. It is no more nonsensical than the photon - which is the quantum of the electromagnetic field.

    (To add to the confusion of Lazar's statement, in any quantum theory of gravity, as in all quantum theories, the graviton will be, in a sense, BOTH a particle AND a wave!)

    The fact that gravity is a wave has caused mainstream scientists to surmise numerous sub-atomic particles which don't actually exist and this has caused great complexity and confusion in the study of particle physics.

    As a particle physicist, I must say that I have NO IDEA what he is talking about here. Surmising particles that don't exist? I can't think of a single particle whose existence has been postulated as a result of gravitational theories. Perhaps the graviton is one, but that’s about it.

    You must have at least an atom of substance for it to be considered "matter". At least a proton and an electron and in most cases a neutron. Anything short of an atom such as upquarks and downquarks which make up protons and neutrons; or protons, neutrons, or electrons, individually are considered to be mass and do not constitute "matter" until they form an atom.

    These are peculiar and nonstandard definitions. The standard use of the term "matter" includes anything which has mass. Even a single quark is considered to be a particle of matter. If a quark isn’t “matter” than what is it? All elementary particles are either matter particles or force-carrying particles. An electron is a mater particle, and so is a quark.

    It may seem like a small point, but I think that errors like these are what make Lazar’s “theory” so dubious. How can we give much consideration to someone who claims to be overthrowing the foundations of particle physics, when it’s fairly obvious that he isn’t even familiar with the terminology?

    Gravity A is what is currently being labeled as the "strong nuclear force" in mainstream physics ...

    This is the place where Lazar begins to get him self in real trouble. As it is understood now, the strong nuclear force has NOTHING TO DO WITH GRAVITY. Such a statement shows either a complete lack of understanding of the physics of the Standard Model of particle interactions, or a BLATANT attempt at deception. The equations and coupling strengths which describe the two forces are totally different and unrelated. The strong force couples only to quarks and gluons. The gravitational force couples to all particles with mass. The strong force is extremely short range. The range of gravity is infinite. The gravitational coupling constant is orders of magnitude smaller than that of the strong interaction. There is NO BASIS for using the word "gravity" to describe the strong interaction IN ANY WAY.

    If Mr. Lazar has formulated a NEW model in which the two forces are really the same, then he has unified gravity with the other three forces of nature, and he should publish it now and collect his Nobel Prize. If he DOES NOT have such a new theory then his statement here is ABSOLUTELY FALSE.

    It's not good enough to just call the strong interaction "gravity A wave". You've got to demonstrate that it actually has SOMETHING to do with gravity if you're going to attach that name to it! The words by themselves are meaningless. I want to see some equations. Otherwise, this statement is not only wrong, but utterly incomprehensible.

    ...it should be obvious that a large, single star system, binary star system, or multiple star system would have had more of the prerequisite mass and electromagnetic energy present during their creations.

    Now we get into some fuzzy astronomy. Mr. Lazar doesn’t seem to understand where heavy elements come from, or how they are formed.

    First we have to assume that when Lazar says “large” he means “massive.” The "largeness" of a star says nothing about its mass. In five or ten billion years, the sun will be as large as the orbit of Mars. A star's size changes drastically during its lifetime. It’s pretty clear that what Lazar should be talking about here is the MASS of the star.

    The next section is a little vague, but he SEEMS to be suggesting that his element 115, the alien fuel source, which doesn't exist on the Earth, should be present in those solar systems that were more massive at their inception. The implication here is that a star system which condensed out of a more massive primordial cloud should have a greater abundance of heavier elements. This is quite incorrect.

    Heavy elements – all elements heavier than iron – are not formed during the normal life cycles of stars. The only time when these nuclei are "cooked" is during the collapse and subsequent explosion of supernovae. The supernova explosion then spreads heavy elements throughout the galaxy. For this reason, the abundances of heavy elements in any particular star system depend NOT upon the properties of the current star, but on the properties of the nearby stars of the PREVIOUS GENERATION! Therefore, all of the star systems in a particular region of the galaxy will have essentially the same abundances of heavy elements, regardless of the mass of star. If element 115 is STABLE, as Lazar claims it to be, then it should be created in supernova explosions and it should exist EVERYWHERE!

    The most important attribute of these heavier, stable elements is that the gravity A wave is so abundant that it actually extends past the perimeter of the atom. These heavier, stable elements literally have their own gravity A field around them...

    No naturally occurring atoms on earth have enough protons and neutrons for the cumulative gravity A wave to extend past the perimeter of the atom...


    Since Mr. Lazar has already identified this gravity A wave with the nuclear force, he is essentially claiming that the nuclear force of element 115 extends beyond the limits of the "115-ium" atom. (I'm tempted to call it Lazarium...and somewhat surprised that he doesn't!!) This is simply not possible, given the known properties of the nuclear force. The past 50 years of probing the nucleus have taught us that the range of the nuclear force is VERY short, and protons and neutrons only feel the pull of their nearest neighbors in a nucleus. Because of this fact, the nuclear force extends out to about the same distance away from a nucleus NO MATTER HOW MASSIVE THE NUCLEUS IS. This fact is fundamental to the science of nuclear physics.

    Once again, if Mr. Lazar has a NEW MODEL of the nuclear interaction which explains the properties and decay rates of known nuclei...which can predict the abundances of elements synthesized in the Big Bang...which can describe all of the properties of nuclear reactions which take place inside of stars...all as well as our current theories do all of these things (which is VERY well!) then he should publish it and collect his Nobel Prize. If not, then once again his statements make NO SENSE in the light of everything that we know about nuclear interactions.

    Now even though the distance that the gravity A wave extends past the perimeter of the atom is infinitesimal, it is accessible and it has amplitude, wavelength and frequency, just like any OTHER wave in the electromagnetic spectrum. Once you can access the gravity A wave, you can amplify it just like we amplify OTHER electromagnetic waves.

    (MY EMPHASIS)
    I have emphasized the use of the word "other" in this paragraph to show that Mr. Lazar apparently thinks that his "gravity A wave", which if you recall, is also the strong nuclear force, is ALSO an electromagnetic wave. Perhaps he HAS formulated a "Grand Unified Theory" after all! Or perhaps this is just another example of his careless use of scientific terms.

    Conclusions

    I want to take some time here to talk about scientific progress, because there is one common objection to my critique of Lazar’s scenario. People will often say “Modern science could be wrong. Newton was wrong! Lazar could be right!” Yes. That is correct. In fact, modern science almost certainly IS “wrong.” But the only real test of a theory in science is that it works. Newton’s Laws worked. They still do in most situations. Einstein’s theories are better – they are more accurate and they work in more situations. New theories will continue to come along that are more precise and more generally applicable than the older theories, and these new theories will be tested by experiments until they supplant the old ones. That is how science has progressed for the past 400 years.

    So it is not enough to SAY that modern science is wrong. You have to demonstrate that you have something that is better. And that “better” theory needs to do everything that the old theory does, and then do more. And chances are that it won’t completely turn the old theory on it’s head – because we already know that the old theories work too well. It is not possible to create a new theory until you understand the old one well enough to present a coherent alternative. Calling current science “total nonsense” is nice rhetoric, and no doubt convincing to many non-scientists who feel alienated from science and look on scientists as a kind of modern priesthood of arcane knowledge. But science is a process – not a body of knowledge.

    I can't possibly demonstrate conclusively that Lazar's mechanism is impossible. All that I can hope to demonstrate here is that his scenario would require a COMPLETE overhaul of our theories of gravity and particle physics in order to work. Not just some minor changes...I'm talking from the ground up. Mr. Lazar makes no mention of this fact, and he proposes no alternative theories. But, if Lazar's scenario is true, then we will NEED some new theories, because we are wrong about a great many things. We don't understand gravity. We don't understand nuclear interactions. We don't understand spacetime. We don't understand stellar evolution. However, considering Mr. Lazar's careless use of language, his casual redefinition of scientific terms, and the complete lack of details in his presentation, I'm willing to bet the farm that it is actually Lazar who doesn't understand any of these things.

    But wait.....There’s an addendum!!

    Lazar explains on his current webpage (www.boblazar.com) how his element 115 not only serves as the generator of the Gravity A wave, but ALSO as the fuel for a matter/antimatter reactor that powers the rest of the saucer. Let's take a close look at Lazar's explanation of this reactor...

    "The power source is a reactor. Inside the reactor, element 115 is bombarded with a proton, which plugs into the nucleus of the 115 atom and becomes element 116, which immediately decays and releases or radiates small amounts of anti-matter. The anti-matter is released in a vacuum into a tuned tube, which keeps it from reacting with the matter that surrounds it. It is then directed toward the gaseous matter target at the end of the tube. The matter, which in this case is the gas, and the anti-matter, collide and annihilate totally converting to energy. The heat from this reaction is converted into electrical energy in a near one hundred percent efficient thermoelectric generator. "

    Lots of impressive sounding stuff about reactors and bombarding with protons and all that. But read it again. Antimatter and matter are converted into energy. Fine. But where does the antimatter come from? From element 115 when it is "bombarded with a proton" by the ship's reactor. Hmmm. And just exactly HOW MUCH energy would your reactor have to put into each proton to have it create an antiproton?? Well, exactly the mass energy of an antiproton! And how much energy do you get back out when the antiproton annihilates? EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT YOU PUT INTO CREATING IT!!

    (Actually, you can't just make an antiproton by itself, you have to make a proton/anti-proton pair. So your reactor needs to put in 2 "protons-worth" of mass-energy into each proton in the beam.)

    If you have to MAKE your own antimatter on board, your system produces NO NET ENERGY AT ALL!! You put 2 protons worth of energy in, and you get 2 protons worth of energy out! In fact, the BEST this system could do would be to make ZERO energy, but in fact, it would more likely USE far more energy than it would make.

    Conservation of energy rears it's ugly head, and once again - it looks like Bob's saucer is going nowhere fast!

    Dr. David L. Morgan
    Comments?
    morgand@newschool.edu
    August 26, 1996, revised October 2005


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    [3:11:42 AM- Friday, November 7th, 2014 +11UCT] Sirius 17: http://io9.com/in-this-image-two-ph...utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

    [3:12:03 AM] Sirius 17: this is cool, Barbara shared this on fb yesterday
    [9:16:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This relates to the well known physics of pair production. Without the presence of mass, say an atomic nucleus, NO pair Production can occur; meaning that a high energy gamma photon cannot split into a matter-antimatter pair of say an electron and a positron. Those Austrian quantum physicists applied this in a technology not engaging antimatter products, but this photon quantum entanglement.

    <<< Without the presence of mass, say an atomic nucleus, NO pair Production can occur; meaning that a high energy gamma phpoton cannot split into a matter-antimatter pair of say an electron and a positron

    Why is this so?

    [9:20:46 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well mass emits a graviton and this graviton 'unifies' with the other 3 gauge interaction bosons in a real 'unified field'. Graviton+Gauge photon+gluon+weakon antiphoton=-2+1+1=0 with the antiphoton of +1 spin neutralised by the RMP of -1 spin
    [9:25:33 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The antiphoton is the Higgs Boson precursor showing just why no antimatter is required in the Big Bang. Rather the existence of anti radiation before the existence of any mass takes its place in the unified field , but is suppressed by the Higgs Boson and its well modelled mass production quantum mechanical process.


    In This Image, Two Photons Interact. Here's Why It's Groundbreaking.

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    Normally, photons want nothing to do with one another. Light waves just pass through each other like ghosts. But now, for the first time ever, scientists at the University of Vienna have coaxed a strong interaction between two single photons. It's an achievement that opens up radical new possibilities for a number of quantum technologies.

    Above: In an optical fiber — about half as thick as a human hair — light can be seen running around its axis. In this case the light can not escape along the fiber because the diameter decreases to both sides. (University of Vienna)

    Photons normally pass right through other beams of light. Indeed, light is this funky mixture of classical and quantum phenomenon, exhibiting properties of both waves and particles. This is great for engineers who wish to exploit these anti-social attributes, allowing them to create such things as optical fibre cables that stretch for miles. But it's a constraint if you want to transmit information through secure quantum channels, or for building optical gates. This latest breakthrough could change that.
    A team of researchers at the University of Vienna created a strong interaction between two photons by using an ultra-thin glass fibre. The interaction was so strong that the phase of the photons was altered by 180 degrees.
    "It is like a pendulum, which should actually swing to the left, but due to coupling with a second pendulum, it is swinging to the right. There cannot be a more extreme change in the pendulum's oscillation", noted study co-author Arno Rauschenbeutel in a statement. "We achieve the strongest possible interaction with the smallest possible intensity of light."


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    The light in a fiber is coupled to a bottle-shaped resonator. (University of Vienna)


    To make it happen, the photon was sent on a rather unconventional journey. An ultra-thin glass fibre was joined to a tiny bottle-like optical resonator so that light could enter into the resonator, twist about in circles, and then return to the glass fibre. It was this detour through the resonator that inverted the phase of the photon. And in fact, a wave crest appeared where a wave trough was expected.
    But when the researchers added a single rubidium atom to the resonator, the system changed dramatically. Because of the atom, hardly any light entered into the resonator and the oscillation phase of the photon remained unchanged. Essentially, the addition of the atom got both photons to talk to each other.
    As far as quantum mechanics is concerned, the two photons are indistinguishable. As noted by the University of Vienna release:
    They have to be considered as a joint wave-like object, which is located in the resonator and in the glass fibre at the same time. Therefore, one cannot tell which photon has been absorbed and which one has passed. When both hit the resonator at the same time, they thus experience a joint phase shift of 180 degrees. Hence, two simultaneous photons that interact show a completely different behaviour than single photons.
    This resulted in the creation of a "maximally entangled photon state" — a state that's required in quantum optics, quantum teleportation, and for the creation of light-transistors which could be used for quantum computing.
    All this said, the system wasn't perfect. The noise rate was at 50%, which is a far cry from what's required in a quantum computer. But it's a remarkable achievement nonetheless, one that, if it can be refined, could result in scalable quantum computers.

    Read the entire study at Nature Photonics:
    "Nonlinear π phase shift for single fibre-guided photons interacting with a single resonator-enhanced atom".
     
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    "We cannot afford the still-birth of new ideas that lack the life force that comes from the depths. We are called to return to the root of our being where the sacred is born. Then, standing in both the inner and outer worlds, we will find our self to be part of the momentous synchronicity of life giving birth to itself."

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    In the deep listening and quiet stillness of the soul- all ways will be made clear to you in time.

    Yes nice find Mudra. It is very much about 'changing a cosmic script' which has for so long been co-authored rather unsatisfactorily in the perspective of the Cosmic Elders by the human descendents and inheritors of the starhuman heirlooms prepared by somewhat super terrestrial ancestors and progenitors.


    Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

    (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."




    Isaiah 2:4 - King James Version (KJV)

    4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.


    Isaiah 11:6-9 (KJV)

    6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


    Isaiah 56:10-12 - King James Version (KJV)

    10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

    11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

    12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.



    Changing the Story



    Published online at the Huffington Post
    by
    Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee​



    “The only way to change the world is to change the story.”

    We know only too well the story that defines our world today. It is a tale of consumerism and greed, sustained by the empty but enticing promise of an endless stream of “stuff” as the source of our happiness and wellbeing. We are finally coming to recognize the model of an ever-expanding economy on which that promise is predicated as an unsustainable myth, the domination of nature required to fulfill it as a desecration. All around us we are beginning to see the ravages of our culture’s whole-hearted embrace of the story: a beautiful world broken and dying, on its way to becoming a polluted wasteland.

    We may even understand how this contemporary story is built upon an earlier one that took hold many centuries ago with the spread of monotheism, the story of a God who has withdrawn to heaven, to reign, apart and above, over an earth now deprived of its divinity and its natural magic. This is the story, still alive and feeding into our contemporary story, of a world in which spirit no longer lives in matter, in which the whole earth-realm of feminine power is suppressed to such a degree that it has almost been forgotten. It was and is a story of domination and patriarchal power, enshrined in the still-potent myths of the monotheistic religions.

    And many of us now long for a new story, one that will restore to the earth its lost divinity and reconnect our souls to the sacred within creation, a story that will save our planet. Some have even already begun to articulate such a story: a beautiful and compelling vision of the entire universe as a single, inextricably interconnected, living whole, offering a dimension of meaning to our individual daily lives that arises from an understanding of our place in the whole.

    But is this enough? How do we change the defining story of our world? Our collective culture celebrates its story of endless desires. It feeds us with its images that, though they can never nourish us, work like a drug for our minds and bodies, even as they exploit us and the earth. We have become addicts to material prosperity and the ego-centered greed that drives it. We long for a story that can give meaning to our daily lives and restore the health and beauty of our planet, but we remain caught in our tale of celebrating stuff.

    Once we recognize how these stories hold us in thrall, entranced or entrapped, we can get a sense of their power. They are not just slogans created by politicians, corporations or even religions; they arise from the archetypal inner world where myths are born. We can recognize the archetypal dimension of earlier myths, the gods and goddesses of earlier eras, for example; some can see it in the more recent myth of a patriarchal, transcendent God living in a distant heaven. The archetypal power of the present myth of materialism is harder to recognize because it is deceptive as well as seductive. And yet if one looks more closely one can see the archetypes at work here too. There the patriarchal myth of the domination of nature—a primal masculine power drive. But less obvious is the way in which the dark side of the rejected feminine has caught us in her web of desires. For what is materialism but the worship of matter, which is none other than the domain of the goddess? We are more present in the archetypal world than we dare acknowledge.

    And now in our quest to redeem our civilization and the planet we speak about the need for a new story, a story that returns the spirit to creation and honors the primal oneness that is the web of life. Like our current story, this new one may also be based upon an earlier story: one in which all of creation was seen as sacred, with humanity just part of the woven tapestry of life—a story still lived by many indigenous peoples. But this emerging story is also evolutionary, drawing as well on the insights of particle physics into the underlying nature of creation to express its vision of the world as an interconnected whole, in which, like the symbolic image of Indra’s net, each part influences the whole. And this new story of creation connects the smallest particle with an ever-expanding cosmos of billions of galaxies—and does so in a way that bridges science and the sacred, understanding them as expressions of the same reality.

    This is a compelling story for our time. But do we recognize from where this new story arises? Are we acknowledging and honoring the inner dimension from which all such world-changing stories are born? We know the vital need for a new story, but are we seeking to change life without honoring the archetypal forces at work, the gods and goddesses that still reign in the depths of creation—without recognizing the primal world that is life’s inner source? If a story is not born from the inner world it will lack the power to effect any real change.
    It will speak just to our conscious selves, the surface layer of our being, rather than engaging us from the depths. The stories of the past, the myths that shaped humanity, spoke to our individual and collective soul with the numinous and transformative power that comes from deep within. How many men have been called to battle by the archetype of the warrior or the hero? How many churches have been built on the foundation of the myth of redemption? The power of the archetypal, mythic world belongs to the river-beds of life that shape humanity.

    But sadly, our present culture has distanced itself from this inner world. We are not taught to revere these underlying powers, nor do we know how to relate to them. Our contemporary consciousness hardly even knows of their existence. We live on the surface of our lives, unaware of the depths that are in fact the real determining factors. How many people when they go to the mall realize that they are worshipping on the altar of the dark goddess?

    When our Christian culture banished the many gods and goddesses, and then when science declared that myths were idle fantasies, we became more trapped than we realize. The archetypal world does not disappear because we close our eyes, because we say that it does not exist. Its power is not diminished by either our ignorance or our arrogance. And yet we have forgotten how to access and work with this power. Unknowingly we have disempowered our self in a fundamental way. We have closed the door in our psyche and soul—we only look outward.

    And now, when there is this vital need to rewrite the story that defines our lives, we are left with the inadequate tools of our conscious self. We do not know how to welcome the energies from the depths, to constellate the power we need to co-create a real story. We have isolated our self from the energy of life’s source we so desperately need. And so we are left stranded on the shore of our conscious self.
    There is a new story waiting to be born, waiting to redeem the planet and nourish our souls. It is a story of a oneness that includes the diversity of creation in a self-sustaining whole, a story that can bring back the magic within nature that is needed to heal our damaged planet. It is a story of co-operation rather than competition or conflict. And it includes the mystery of life as well as the understanding that science can give us. It is also a new story, arising from deep within the psyche of humanity and the world soul at this moment in our and its evolution. We are not the sole creators of this story, because it is the story of life evolving, recreating itself anew, but we are needed to midwife it into existence. As with all births it needs to come from the inner to the outer world.

    Only when we recognize the inner origins of this world-changing story can we participate in this birth. Only when we work together with the symbolic, archetypal world can its power and numinosity come into our existence and speak to the whole of humanity. Only then will this story be heard. We cannot afford the still-birth of new ideas that lack the life force that comes from the depths. We are called to return to the root of our being where the sacred is born. Then, standing in both the inner and outer worlds, we will find our self to be part of the momentous synchronicity of life giving birth to itself.



    Thomas Berry hints at this in his talk “The Ecozoic Era” (Eleventh Annual E. F. Schumacher Lectures October 1991). He speaks of a “creative entrancement” as well as the “psychic energies needed” for transformation:
    My effort here is to articulate the outlines of a new mythic form that would evoke a creative entrancement to succeed the destructive entrancement that has taken possession of the Western soul in recent centuries. We can counter one entrancement only with another, a counter-entrancement. Only thus can we evoke the vision as well as the psychic energies needed to enable the Earth community to enter successfully upon its next great creative phase.
     
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    Elementary Neutrino-Mass Interactions
    and OABS Science of NABS projected 2012 (or anytime) Planetary Core Reconfigurations

    In 2009, American geologist Adrian Helmsley visits astrophysicist Satnam Tsurutani in India and learns that neutrinos from a massive solar flare are causing the temperature of the Earth's core to rapidly increase. Arriving at a party in Washington, D.C, Helmsley presents his info to White House Chief of Staff Carl Anheuser, who takes him to meet the President.


    "The Neutrinos from the Sun are causing a physical interaction....
    This is impossible!....
    They are mutating into a new form of nuclear elementary particle, which like microwaves are heating the Earth's Core!"

    2012_Poster.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_(film)
    In 2012 neutrinos melt Earth’s core, and other disasters

    By Philip Yam | November 13, 2009 | icon_comment_small. 53
    The views expressed are those of the author and are not necessarily those of Scientific American.


    2012_plane.
    During an early screening of Roland Emmerich’s latest disaster flick 2012, which opens today, laughter erupted in the audience near the end of the film thanks to corny dialogue and maudlin scenes (among the biggest guffaw getters: a father tries to reconnect with his estranged son on the telephone, only to have the son’s house destroyed just before he could say anything). Nobody wants to take anything seriously in a movie like this, in which digital mayhem is the draw. But if it were an audience of physicists, the laughter probably would have started in the first five minutes. You can’t take any of the science seriously, although I give the filmmakers credit for creativity.
    If you haven’t heard, December 21, 2012, is supposed to be the day that the Mayan calendar ends (it doesn’t really) and therefore somehow marks the end of civilization as we know it—notwithstanding the fact that the Mayan civilization ended centuries ago. (NASA has a good Q&A site that debunks the 2012 apocalypse nonsense.)

    Thankfully, the movie 2012 doesn’t dwell on ancient predictions. Instead, it takes us straight to the, er, science.
    The premise: the sun’s 11-year activity cycle reaches a peak in 2012. (A recent analysis led by the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration actually pegs the peak to occur in May 2013, and it will be less intense than previous peaks.) For some reason, the neutrinos from the sun start behaving differently: they begin interacting frequently with matter, rather than largely passing through it harmlessly. The filmmakers could have easily invented entirely new particles for the job—call them bambinos, say—but perhaps that’s too silly.

    2012_scene2(1).
    In the movie, the "neutrinos" heat up Earth’s inner core, making it boil. That in turn destabilizes the overlying layers (outer core and mantle), making the crust buckle, rise and shift by thousands of kilometers.
    As a result, skyscrapers topple, bridges crumble and runways fracture (always in the direction of take-off). People scream, puppies live, heroes escape, villains try to but die, and supporting cast members face their demise. (My favorite here: Danny Glover, famous for portraying a long-suffering cop in the Lethal Weapon movies, plays the U.S. president who decides to go down with the White House—and seemed to be on the verge of saying, "But I was only two days from retirement.")
    If neutrinos behaved the way they are described in the film, then there wouldn’t be much to film. Particles that can heat up the solid iron inner core by thousands of degrees should have cooked Earth’s surface dry before Woody Harrelson gets the chance to steal all the scenes he’s in. The inner core is under about 350 gigapascals of pressure (three million atmospheres), which is why it’s solid. Just how hot the inner core must get to liquefy under that pressure is not known for sure, although Anneli Aitta of the University of Cambridge gives it a try in this paper (pdf).

    Which is not to say there are no hazards from an overactive sun. Intense solar activity can disrupt satellite orbits and communications; in 1989, it triggered a widespread blackout around Quebec.
    On the other hand, neutrinos might not be so harmless. Physicist Juan Collar, now at the University of Chicago, theorized in 1996 that the death of certain kinds of stars could produce so many high-energy neutrinos that they would interact with atoms in organic tissue and lead to mass deaths from cancer. The frequency of such stellar deaths, though exceedingly rare, is consistent with mass extinctions in Earth’s history, he argued.

    Alas, destroying civilization with slow deaths from tumor formation probably doesn’t translate well to the big screen. All the puppies would die, too.
    Scences from 2012 courtesy of Columbia Tristar Marketing Group



    neutrinoweakon.



    {1} Matter interacts with matter based Anti-Neutrinos via Unified Weakon Action {W-+W+}

    Protons transform into neutrons with antimatter positrons, the latter which annihilate with electrons produced by the decay of 'free neutrons' back into protons, electrons and anti-neutrinos and then with energy-momentum conserving photons and so ending the process with the same components it began with.
    {Mass produced photons (by acceleration of inertia coupled electro charges), have no magnetocharge and so form their own anti-particles; whilst gauge or 'virtual' photons carry cyclic and anticyclic colour charges as consequence of the matter-antimatter asymmetry}.

    Antinelectron[] + Proton p+[-½] + VPE[0]Anti-Neutrino Spin Induction to 'flipped' Electron of the partial Matter W-minus Weakon manifesting the other part as Antineutrino Scalar

    Antinelectron[0] + {Antinelectron[+½] + Electron e-[+½]} + Graviphoton[-1] + {nelectron[-½] + Positron e+[-½]} + Graviphoton[+1] + p+[-½]


    {Antinelectron[+½] + nelectron[-½]}-Kernel VPE[0] + e+[+½] + {p+[-½] +OR-[0]} ⇨ Kernel-VPE[0] + Neutrono[-½] + Positron e+[+½], the scalar Electron Outer Ring being absorbed in the Proton spin as the resultant Neutron quantum spin

    Kernel-VPE[0] + {p+[-½] + e-[-½] + e+[+½] + Antinelectron[+½]} ⇨ (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] + p+[-½] + Antinelectron[+½] ⇨ Antinelectron[] + Proton p+[-½] + Photon[-1] + Photon[+1] in Pair-Annihilation tranforming the Mass Energy {E=mc2 into Radiation Energy E=hf for the Electron-Positron Matter-Antimatter Interaction.



    {2} Matter interacts with antimatter based Neutrinos via Unified Weakon Action {W-+W+}

    Neutrons transform into protons with muons, the latter decaying into electrons and anti-neutrinos and neutrinos, so reducing the elementary matter-neutrino interaction to basic neutron beta-minus-deacay with the leptonic coupling between the 'resonance electron' as a basic muon coupled to its neutrino.

    nmuon[] + Neutron no[+½] + VPE[0]Neutrino Spin Induction to 'flipped' Anti-Muon of the partial W-plus Weakon manifesting the other part as Neutrino Scalar

    nmuon[0] + {nmuon[-½] + Anti-Muon m+[-½]} + Graviphoton[+1] + {Antinmuon[+½] + Muon m-[+½]} + Graviphoton[-1] + no[+½]


    {Antinmuon[+½] + nmuon[-½]}-Kernel VPE[0] + m-[-½] + {no[+½] +Anti-OR+[0]} ⇨ (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] + Proton+[+½] + Muon m-[-½], the scalar Anti-Muon Outer Ring being absorbed in the Neutron spin as the resultant Proton quantum spin

    (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] + {p+[+½] + e-[-½] + Antinelectron[+½] + nmuon[-½]}
    nmuon[] + no[+½] + (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] in the original neutrino-matter interaction accessing the VPE/ZPE of the UFoQR.




    {3} Matter interacts with antimatter based Neutrinos and matter based Antineutrinos in Majorana Weakon Action Electron Capture {W-+W+}
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    An Electron in the inner atomic nucleus is captured by a proton to create a neutron accompanied by an electron neutrino. This requires a u-quark of the proton to transform into a d-quark of the neutron. As the d-quark is a KIR quark of inner mesonic ring of electro charge [+2/3] coupled to the MIR of electro charge [-1], a W-minus weakon must be engaged to couple to a left handed proton via the nonparity of the weak nuclear interaction. However in electron capture a left handed electron is emitted, requiring the interacton of a W-plus weakon as the kernel gauge for any such right handed antimatter weak decay.
    (This 'confusion' as to which weakon becomes engaged in electron capture can be seen in the three diagrams above, two of which infer the left handed W-plus and one the right handed W-minus).

    It is in fact a W-minus, that interacts, but coupling to the left handed electron instead of a left handed proton, the latter quantum spinning right handed to allow the charge and spin conservation to crystallize the emission of the left handed electron neutrino.
    The W-minus then supplies the required KIR for the up-quark to down-quark transmutation with the gauge spin neutralizer of the left handed Graviphoton [-1] flipping the electron antineutrino constituent of the W-minus into its antiparticular form of a left handed electron neutrino.
    Electron capture so displays the Dirac-Majorana nature of the two base neutrinos of the electron-positron and muon-antimuon definition in their massless gauge nature when engaged in the direct interaction or 'tapping' of the UfoQR in the Vortex-Potential-Energy or VPE/ZPE.
    The Majorana-Dirac nature of the base neutrinos then can be said to apply to all (anti)neutrinos carrying mass in their oscillation potential and properties exhibited in their wave mechanical dynamics.


    Electron-[] + Proton p+[+½] + VPE[0]Electron Spin Neutralization as Induction to Matter Parity as OR- - IR--VPE Oscillation of the partial W-plus Weakon manifesting the other part as flipped Neutrino from its Dirac AntiNeutrino base template
    Electron
    [0] + {Electron- [+½] + Antinelectron[+½] + Graviphoton[-1]} + Proton p+[+½] (proton as u[+½]u[-½].d[+½])


    ⇨ Proton K[+½]KIR[-½]K [+½] + OR-[0] + {Antinelectron[+½] + Graviphoton[-1]} = Proton udu[+½] + OR-[0] + {nelectron[-½]}
    ⇨ Neutron udd[+½] + VPE[0] + nelectron[-½] = KIR[+½]K[-½]KIR[+½] + nelectron[-½] + VPE[0] = Neutron no dud[+½] + nelectron[-½] + VPE[0]


    A Magneto axis symmetric Proton K(KIR)K transforms into Magneto axis symmetric Neutron KIR(K)KIR as one of the proton's end Kernel up-quarks 'captures' the Weakonic VPE scalar OR- Electron Outer Ring in the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity.

    ufoqr.
     
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    The first Ylemic Stars in the Universe and the Antiwormholes


    The stability of stars is a function of the equilibrium condition, which balances the inward pull of gravity with the outward pressure of the thermodynamic energy or enthalpy of the star (H=PV+U). The Jeans Mass MJ and the Jeans Length RJ a used to describe the stability conditions for collapsing molecular hydrogen clouds to form stars say, are well known in the scientific data base, say in formulations such as:

    MJ=3kTR/2Gm for a Jeans Length of: RJ=√{15kT/(4πρGm)}=RJ =√(kT/Gnm²).

    Now the Ideal Gas Law of basic thermodynamics states that the internal pressure P and Volume of such an ideal gas are given by PV=nRT=NkT for n moles of substance being the Number N of molecules (say) divided by Avogadro's Constant L in n=N/L .

    Since the Ideal Gas Constant R divided by Avogadro's Constant L and defines Boltzmann's Constant k=R/L. Now the statistical analysis of kinetic energy KE of particles in motion in a gas (say) gives a root-mean-square velocity (rms) and the familiar 2.KE=mv²(rms) from the distribution of individual velocities v in such a system.

    It is found that PV=(2/3)N.KE as a total system described by the v(rms). Now set the KE equal to the Gravitational PE=GMm/R for a spherical gas cloud and you get the Jeans Mass. (3/2N).(NkT)=GMm/R with m the mass of a nucleon or Hydrogen atom and M=MJ=3kTR/2Gm as stated.

    The Jeans' Length is the critical radius of a cloud (typically a cloud of interstellar dust) where thermal energy, which causes the cloud to expand, is counteracted by gravity, which causes the cloud to collapse. It is named after the British astronomer Sir James Jeans, who first derived the quantity; where k is Boltzmann Constant, T is the temperature of the cloud, r is the radius of the cloud, μ is the mass per particle in the cloud, G is the Gravitational Constant and ρ is the cloud's mass density (i.e. the cloud's mass divided by the cloud's volume).

    Now following the Big Bang, there were of course no gas clouds in the early expanding universe and the Jeans formulations are not applicable to the mass seedling Mo; in the manner of the Jeans formulations as given.

    However, the universe's dynamics is in the form of the expansion parameter of GR and so the R(n)=Rmax(n/(n+1)) scalefactor of Quantum Relativity.
    So we can certainly analyse this expansion in the form of the Jeans Radius of the first protostars, which so obey the equilibrium conditions and equations of state of the much later gas clouds, for which the Jeans formulations then apply on a say molecular level.
    This analysis so defines the ylemic neutron stars as protostars and the first stars in the cosmogenesis and the universe.

    Let the thermal internal energy or ITE=H be the outward pressure in equilibrium with the gravitational potential energy of GPE=Ω. The nuclear density in terms of the superbrane parameters is ρcritical=mc/Vcritical with mc a base-nuleon mass for a 'ylemic neutron'.

    Vcritical= 4πRe3/3 or the volume for the ylemic neutron as given by the classical electron radius Re=1010λwormhole/360=e*/2c2.

    H=(molarity)kT for molar volume as N=(R/Re)3 for dH=3kTR2/Re3.
    Ω(R)= -∫GoMdm/R = -{3Gomc2/(Re3)2 }∫R4dR = -3Gomc2R5/Re6 for
    dm/dR=d(ρV)/dR=4πρR2 and for ρ=3mc/4πRe3

    For equilibrium, the requirement is that dH=dΩ in the minimum condition dH+dΩ=0.
    This gives: dH+dΩ=3kTR2/Re3 - 16Goπ2ρ2R4/3=0 and the ylemic radius as:

    Rylem=√{kTRe/Gomc2}

    as the Jeans-Length precursor or progenitor for subsequent stellar and galactic generation.

    The ylemic (Jeans) radii are all independent of the mass of the star as a function of its nuclear generated temperature. Applied to the protostars of the vortex neutron matter or ylem, the radii are all neutron star radii and define a specific range of radii for the gravitational collapse of the electron degenerate matter.

    This spans from the 'First Three Minutes' scenario of the cosmogenesis to 1.1 million seconds (or about 13 days) and encompasses the standard beta decay of the neutron (underpinning radioactivity). The upper limit defines a trillion degree temperature and a radius of over 40 km; the trivial Schwarzschild solution gives a typical ylem radius of so 7.4 kilometers and the lower limit defines the 'mysterious' planetesimal limit as 1.8 km.

    For long a cosmological conundrum, it could not be modelled just how the molecular and electromagnetic forces applicable to conglomerate matter distributions (say gaseous hydrogen as cosmic dust) on the quantum scale of molecules could become strong enough to form say 1km mass concentrations, required for 'ordinary' gravity to assume control.

    The ylem radii's lower limit is defined in this cosmology then show, that it is the ylemic temperature of the 1.2 billion degrees K, which perform the trick under the Ylem-Jeans formulation and which then is applied to the normal collapse of hydrogenic atoms in summation.

    The stellar evolution from the ylemic (dineutronic) templates is well established in QR and confirms most of the Standard Model's ideas of nucleosynthesis and the general Temperature cosmology. The standard model is correct in the temperature assignment, but is amiss in the corresponding 'size-scales' for the cosmic expansion.

    The Big Bang cosmogenesis describes the universe as a Planck-Black Body Radiator, which sets the Cosmic-Microwave-Black Body Background Radiation Spectrum (CMBBR) as a function of n as T4=18.2(n+1)2/n3 and derived from the Stefan-Boltzmann-Law and the related statistical frequency distributions.

    We have the GR metric for Schwarzschild-Black Hole Evolution as RS=2GM/c² as a function of the star's Black Hole's mass M and we have the ylemic Radius as a function of temperature only as Rylem√(kT.Re3/Gomc2).

    The nucleonic mass-seed mc=mP.Alpha9 and the product Gomc2 is a constant in the partitioned n-evolution of

    mc(n)=Yn.mc and G(n)=Go.Xn.

    Identifying the ylemic Radius with the Schwarzschild Radius then indicates a specific mass a specific temperature and a specific radius.

    Those we call the Chandrasekhar Parameters:
    MChandra=1.5 solar Masses=3x1030 kg and RChandra=2GoMChandra/c² or 7407.40704..metres, which is the typical neutron star radius inferred today.

    TChandra=RChandra2.Gomc2/kRe3 =1.985x1010 K for Electron Radius Re and Boltzmann's Constant k.

    Those Chandrasekhar parameters then define a typical neutron star with a uniform temperature of 20 billion K at the white dwarf limit of ordinary stellar nucleosynthetic evolution (Hertzsprung-Russell or HR-diagram).
    The Radius for the massparametric Universe is given in R(n)=Rmax(1-n/(n+1)) correlating the ylemic temperatures as the 'uniform' CMBBR-background and we can follow the evolution of the ylemic radius via the approximation:

    Rylem=0.05258..√T=(0.0753).[(n+1)2/n3][1/8]

    Rylem(npresent=1.1324..)=0.0868 m* for a Tylem(npresent )=2.73 K for the present time
    tpresent=npresent/Ho.

    What then is nChandra?
    This would describe the size of the universe as the uniform temperature CMBBR today manifesting as the largest stars, mapped however onto the ylemic neutron star evolution as the protostars (say as nChandra'), defined not in manifested mass (say neutron conglomerations), but as a quark-strange plasma, (defined in QR as the Vortex-Potential-Energy or VPE).

    R(nChandra')=Rmax(nChandra'/(nChandra'+1))=7407.40741.. for nChandra'=4.64x10-23 and so a time of tChandra'=nChandra'/Ho=nChandra'/1.88x10-18=2.47x10-5 seconds.

    QR defines the Weyl-Temperature limit for Bosonic Unification as 1.9 nanoseconds at a temperature of 1.4x1020 Kelvin and the weak-electromagnetic unification at 1/365 seconds at T=3.4x1015 K.

    So we place the first ylemic protostar after the bosonic unification (before which the plenum was defined as undifferentiated 'bosonic plasma'), but before the electro-weak unification, which defined the Higgs-Bosonic restmass induction via the weak interaction vector-bosons and allowing the dineutrons to be born.

    The universe was so 15 km across, when its ylemic 'concentrated' VPE-Temperature was so 20 Billion K and we find the CMBBR in the Stefan-Boltzmann-Law as:
    T4=18.20(n+1)2/n3=1.16x1017 Kelvin.

    So the thermodynamic temperature for the expanding universe was so 5.85 Million times greater than the ylemic VPE-Temperature; and implying that no individual ylem stars could yet form from the mass seedling Mo.

    The universe's expansion however cooled the CMBBR background and we to calculate the scale of the universe corresponding to this ylemic scenario; we simply calculate the 'size' for the universe at TChandra=20 Billion K for TChandra4 and we then find nChandra=4.89x10-14 and tChandra=26,065 seconds or so 7.24 hours.

    The Radius R(nChandra)=7.81x1012 metres or 7.24 lighthours.
    This is about 52 Astronomical Units and an indicator for the largest possible star in terms of radial extent and the 'size' of a typical solar system, encompassed by supergiants on the HR-diagram.

    We so know that the ylemic temperature decreases in direct proportion to the square of the ylemic radius and one hitherto enigmatic aspect in cosmology relates to this in the planetesimal limit. Briefly, a temperature of so 1.2 billion degrees defines an ylemic radius of 1.8 km as the dineutronic limit for proto-neutron stars contracting from so 80 km down to this size just 1.1 million seconds or so 13 days after the Big Bang.

    This then 'explains' why chunks of matter can conglomerate via molecular and other adhesive interactions towards this size, where then the accepted gravity is strong enough to build planets and moons. It works, because the ylemic template is defined in subatomic parameters reflecting the mesonic-inner and leptonic outer ring boundaries, the planetesimal limit being the leptonic mapping. So neutrino- and quark blueprints micromacro dance their basic definition as the holographic projections of the spacetime quanta.

    Now because the Electron Radius is directly proportional to the linearised wormhole perimeter and then the Compton Radius via Alpha in Re=1010λwormhole/360=e*/2c2=Alpha.RCompton, the Chandrasekhar White Dwarf limit should be doubled to reflect the protonic diameter mirrored in the classical electron radius.

    Hence any star experiencing electron degeneracy is actually becoming ylemic or dineutronic, the boundary for this process being the Chandrasekhar mass. This represents the subatomic mapping of the first Bohr orbit collapsing onto the leptonic outer ring in the quarkian wave-geometry.
    But this represents the Electron Radius as a Protonic Diameter and the Protonic Radius must then indicate the limit for the scale where proton degeneracy would have to enter the scenario. As the proton cannot degenerate in that way, the neutron star must enter Black Hole phasetransition at the Re/2 scale, corresponding to a mass of 8MChandra=24x1030 kg* or 12 solar masses.

    The maximum ylemic radius so is found from the constant density proportion ρ=M/V:
    (Rylemmax/Re)3=MChandra/mc for Rylemmax=40.1635 km.

    The corresponding ylemic temperature is 583.5 Billion K for a CMBBR-time of 287 seconds or so 4.8 minutes from a n=5.4x10-16, when the universe had a diameter of so 173 Million km.
    But for a maximum nuclear compressibility for the protonic radius, we find:

    (Rylemmax/Re)3=8MChandra/mc for Rylemmax=80.327 km, a ylemic temperature of 2,334 Billion K for a n-cycletime of 8.5x10-17 and a CMBBR-time of so 45 seconds and when the universe had a radius of 13.6 Million km or was so 27 Million km across.

    The first ylemic protostar vortex was at that time manifested as the ancestor for all neutron star generations to follow. This vortex is described in a cosmic string encircling a spherical region so 160 km across and within a greater universe of diameter 27 Million km which carried a thermodynamic temperature of so 2.33 Trillion Kelvin at that point in the cosmogenesis.

    This vortex manifested as a VPE concentration after the expanding universe had cooled to allow the universe to become transparent from its hitherto defining state of opaqueness and a time known as the decoupling of matter (in the form of the Mo seedling partitioned in mc's) from the radiation pressure of the CMBBR photons.

    The temperature for the decoupling is found in the galactic scale-limit modular dual to the wormhole geodesic as 1/λwormholeantiwormholegalaxyserpent=1022 metres or so 1.06 Million ly and its luminosity attenuation in the 1/e proportionality for then 388,879 lightyears as a decoupling time ndecoupling.

    A maximum galactic halo limit is modulated in 2πλantiwormhole metres in the linearisation of the Planck-length encountered before in an earlier discussion.

    R(ndecoupling)=Rmax(ndecoupling/(ndecouplingc+1))=1022 metres for ndecoupling=6.26x10-5 and so for a CMBBR-Temperature of about T=2935 K for a galactic protocore then attenuated in so 37% for ndecouplingmin=1.0x10-6 for R=λantiwormhole/2π and ndecouplingmax=3.9x10-4 for R=2πλantiwormhole and for temperatures of so 65,316 K and 744 K respectively, descriptive of the temperature modulations between the galactic cores and the galactic halos.

    So a CMBBR-temperature of so 65,316 K at a time of so 532 Billion seconds or 17,000 years defined the initialisation of the VPE and the birth of the first ylemic protostars as a decoupling minimum. The ylemic mass currents were purely monopolic and known as superconductive cosmic strings, consisting of nucleonic neutrons, each of mass mc.

    If we assign this timeframe to the maximised ylemic radius and assign our planetesimal limit of fusion temperature 1.2 Billion K as a corresponding minimum; then this planetesimal limit representing the onset of stellar fusion in a characteristic temperature, should indicate the first protostars at a temperature of the CMBBR of about 744 Kelvin.

    The universe had a tremperature of 744 K for ndecouplingmax=3.9x10-4 for R=2πλantiwormhole and this brings us to a curvature radius of so 6.6 Million lightyears and an 'ignition-time' for the first physical ylemic neutron stars as first generation protostars of so 7 Million years after the Big Bang.

    The important cosmological consideration is that of distance-scale modulation.
    The Black Hole Schwarzschild metric is the inverse of the galactic scale metric.
    The linearisation of the Planck-String as the Weyl-Geodesic and so the wormhole radius in the curvature radius R(n) is modular dual and mirrored in inversion in the manifestation of galactic structure with a nonluminous halo a luminous attenuated diameter-bulge and a superluminous (quasar or White Hole Core).

    The core-bulge ratio will so reflect the eigenenergy quantum of the wormhole as heterotic Planck-Boson-String or as the magnetocharge as 1/500, being the mapping of the Planck-Length-Bounce as e=lP.c²√Alpha onto the electron radius in e*=2Re.c².



    Hypersphere volumes and the mass of the Tau-neutrino

    Consider the universe's thermodynamic expansion to proceed at an initializing time (and practically at lightspeed for the lightpath x=ct describing the hypersphere radii) to from a single spacetime quantum with a quantized toroidal volume 2π²rw³ and where rw is the characteristic wormhole radius for this basic building unit for a quantized universe (say in string parameters given in the Planck scale and its transformations).

    At a time tG, say so 18.85 minutes later, the count of space time quanta can be said to be 9.677x10102 for a universal 'total hypersphere radius' of about rG=3.39x1011 meters and for a G-Hypersphere volume of so 7.69x1035cubic meters.

    {This radius is about 2.3 Astronomical Units (AUs) and about the distance of the Asteroid Belt from the star Sol in a typical (our) solar system.}

    This modelling of a mapping of the quantum-microscale onto the cosmological macroscale should now indicate the mapping of the wormhole scale onto the scale of the sun itself.

    rw/RSun(i)=Re/rE for RSun(i)=rwrE/Re=1,971,030 meters. This gives an 'inner' solar core of diameter about 3.94x106 meters.

    As the classical electron radius is quantized in the wormhole radius in the formulation Re=1010rw/360, rendering a finestructure for Planck's Constant as a 'superstring-parametric': h=rw/2Rec3; the 'outer' solar scale becomes RSun(o)=360RSun(i)=7.092x108 meters as the observed radius for the solar disk.

    19 seconds later; a F-Hypersphere radius is about rF=3.45x1011 meters for a F-count of so 1.02x10103spacetime quanta. We also define an E-Hypersphere radius at rE=3.44x1014 meters and an E-count of so 10112 to circumscribe this 'solar system' in so 230 AU.

    We so have 4 hypersphere volumes, based on the singularity-unit and magnified via spacetime quantization in the hyperspheres defined in counters G, F and E. We consider these counters as somehow fundamental to the universe's expansion, serving as boundary conditions in some manner. As counters, those googol-numbers can be said to be defined algorithmically and independent on mensuration physics of any kind.




    The mapping of the atomic nucleus onto the thermodynamic universe of the hyperspheres

    Should we consider the universe to follow some kind of architectural blueprint; then we might attempt to use our counters to be isomorphic (same form or shape) in a one-to-one mapping between the macrocosmos and the microcosmos. So we define a quantum geometry for the nucleus in the simplest atom, say Hydrogen. The hydrogenic nucleus is a single proton of quark-structure udu and which we assign a quantum geometric template of Kernel-InnerRing-OuterRing (K-IR-OR), say in a simple model of concentricity.

    We set the up-quarks (u) to become the 'smeared out core' in say a tripartition uuu so allowing a substructure for the down-quark (d) to be u+InnerRing. A down-quark so is a unitary ring coupled to a kernel-quark. The proton's quark-content so can be rewritten and without loss of any of the properties associated with the quantum conservation laws; as proton-> udu->uuu+IR=KKK+IR. We may now label the InnerRing as Mesonic and the OuterRing as Leptonic.

    The OuterRing is so definitive for the strange quark in quantum geometric terms: s=u+OR.
    A neutron's quark content so becomes neutron=dud=KIR.K.KIR with a 'hyperon resonance' in the lambda=sud=KOR.K.KIR and so allowing the neutron's beta decay to proceed in disassociation from a nucleus (where protons and neutrons bind in meson exchange); i.e. in the form of 'free neutrons'.

    The neutron decays in the oscillation potential between the mesonic inner ring and the leptonic outer ring as the 'ground-energy' eigenstate.




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    There actually exist three uds-quark states which decay differently via strong, electromagnetic and weak decay rates in the uds (Sigmao Resonance); usd (Sigmao) and the sud (Lambdao) in increasing stability.
    This quantum geometry then indicates the behaviour of the triple-uds decay from first principles, whereas the contemporary standard model does not, considering the u-d-s quark eigenstates to be quantum geometrically undifferentiated.
    The nuclear interactions, both strong and weak are confined in a ' Magnetic Asymptotic Confinement Limit
    coinciding with the Classical Electron Radius Re=ke²/mec² and in a scale of so 3 Fermi or 2.8x10-15 meters. At a distance further away from this scale, the nuclear interaction strength vanishes rapidly.

    The wavenature of the nucleus is given in the Compton-Radius Rc=h/2πmc with m the mass of the nucleus, say a proton; the latter so having Rc=2x10-16 meters or so 0.2 fermi.

    The wave-matter (after de Broglie generalising wavespeed vdB from c in Rcc) then relates the classical electron radius as the 'confinement limit' to the Compton scale in the electromagnetic finestructure constant in Re=Alpha.Rc.

    The extension to the Hydrogen-Atom is obtained in the expression Re=Alpha².RBohr1 for the first Bohr-Radius as the 'ground-energy' of so 13.7 eV at a scale of so 10-11 to 10-10 meters (Angstroems).
    These 'facts of measurements' of the standard models now allow our quantum geometric correspondences to assume cosmological significance in their isomorphic mapping. We denote the OuterRing as the classical electron radius and introduce the InnerRing as a mesonic scale contained within the geometry of the proton and all other elementary baryonic- and hadronic particles.

    Firstly, we define a mean macro-mesonic radius as: rM=½(rF+rG)~ 3.42x1011 meters and set the macro-leptonic radius to rE=3.44x1014 meters.
    Secondly, we map the macroscale onto the microscale, say in the simple proportionality relation, using
    (de)capitalised symbols: Re/Rm=rE/rM.

    We can so solve for the micro-mesonic scale Rm=Re.rM/rE ~ 2.76x10-18 meters.
    So reducing the apparent measured 'size' of a proton in a factor about about 1000 gives the scale of the subnuclear mesonic interaction, say the strong interaction coupling by pions.



    Neutrinomasses

    The (Anti)Neutrino Energy at the RE nexus for RE=rw∛(26x6561) m* and
    for mnHiggs-E=mnelectron=lwh.Alpha/4p2Re2c=30e2lw/2pRe2c or 15l]w{Monopole GUT masses ec}/pRe2 = 2.982...10-3 eV*.

    This can also be written as mnHiggs-E=mnelectron=mnTauon2 to define the 'squared' Higgs (Anti)Neutrino eigenstate from its templated form of the quantum geometry in the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity (UFoQR).

    Subsequently, the Muon (Anti)Neutrino Higgs Induction mass becomes defined in the difference between the masses of the Tau-(Anti)Neutrino and the Higgs (Anti)Neutrino.

    mnTauon = B4G4R4[0]+B2G2R2[-½]=B6G6R6[-½] = √(mnelectron)=√(0.002982)=0.0546... eV*


    mnHiggs= B4G4R4[0] = meλw.rE{1/rG-1/rF}/(2πRe) ~ 9.301x10-38 kg* or 0.0521... eV*
    mnMuon
    = B2G2R2[-½] = √(mnTauon2 - mnHiggs2) = √(0.00298-0.00271) = √(0.00027) = 0.0164... eV*

    mnElectron = B2G2R2[-½] = (mnTauon)2= (0.054607...)2=0.002982... eV*

    This energy self state for the Electron (Anti)Neutrino then is made manifest in the Higgs Mass Induction at the Mesonic Inner Ring or IR as the squared mass differential between two (anti)neutrino self states as:
    (mn3 + mn2).(mn3 - mn2) = mn32 - mn22 = 0.002981...eV*2 to reflect the 'squared' energy self state of the scalar Higgs (Anti)Neutrino as compared to the singlet energy Eigen state of the base (anti)neutrinos for the 3 leptonic families of electron-positron and the muon-antimuon and the tauon-antitauon.


    The Electron-(Anti)Neutrino is massless as base-neutrinoic weakon eigenstate and inducted at RE at 0.00298 eV*.
    The Muon-(Anti)Neutrino is also massless as base-neutrinoic weakon eigenstate and inducted at the Mesonic Ring F-Boundary at 2.969 eV* with an effective Higgsian mass induction of 0.0164 eV*.


    The Tauon-(Anti)Neutrino is not massless with inertial eigenstate inducted at the Mesonic Ring G-Boundary at 3.021 eV* and meaned at 3.00 eV* as √(0.05212+0.01642) = 0.0546 eV* as the square root value of the ground state of the Higgs inertia induction. The neutrino flavour mechanism, based on the Electron (Anti)Neutrino so becomes identical in the Weakon Tauon-Electron-Neutrino oscillation to the Scalar Muon-Higgs-Neutrino oscillation.

    The weakon kernel-eigenstates are 'squared' or doubled (2x2=2+2) in comparison with the gluonic-eigenstate (one can denote the colourcharges as (R²G²B²)[½] and as (RGB)[1] respectively say and with the [] bracket denoting gauge-spin and RGB meaning colours Red-Green-Blue).
    The scalar Higgs-Anti(Neutrino) becomes then defined in: (R4G4B4)[0] and the Tauon Anti(Neutrino) in (R6G6B6)[½].


    The twinned neutrino state so becomes MANIFESTED in a coupling of the scalar Higgs-Neutrino with a massless base neutrino in a (R6G6B6)[0+½]) mass-induction template.
    The Higgs-Neutrino is bosonic and so not subject to the Pauli Exclusion Principle; but quantized in the form of the FG-differential of the 0.0521 Higgs-Restmass-Induction.
    Subsequently all experimentally observed neutrino-oscillations should show a stepwise energy induction in units of the Higgs-neutrino mass of 0.0521 eV. This was the case in the Super-Kamiokande experiments; and which was interpreted as a mass-differential between the muonic and tauonic neutrinoic forms.


    mnHiggs + mnelectron = mnHiggs + (mnTauon)2 for the 'squared' ground state of a massless base (anti)neutrino for a perturbation Higgsian (anti)neutrino in (mnTauon)2 = (mnHiggs + d)2 = mnElectron for the quadratic mnHiggs2 + 2mnHiggsd + d2 = 0.002982 from (mnHiggs + d) = √(mnelectron) and for a d = √(mnelectron) - mnHiggs = mnTauon - mnHiggs = 0.0546-0.0521 = 0.0025.


    mnHiggs + d = 0.0521 + 0.0025 = (mnHiggs) + (mnelectron) - 0.00048 = mnTauon = 0.0521+0.00298 - 0.00048 + ... = 0.0546 eV* as a perturbation expression for the 'squared' scalar Higgs (Anti)Neutrino.

    (mnMuon - mnElectron){(mnMuon + mnElectron) - (mnMuon - mnElectron)} = 2mnElectron(mnMuon - mnElectron)
    as the squared mass difference:


    mnMuon2 - mnElectron2 = 2mnElectron(mnMuon - mnElectron) + (mnMuon - mnElectron)2


    and {mnMuon2 - mnElectron2} - mnMuon2 + 2mnMuonnElectron - mnElectron2 = 2mnMuonmnElectron - 2mnElectron2 = ({3mnElectron}2 - 02)
    = (0.00894..)2 = 7.997..x10-5 eV2* as the KamLAND 2005 neutrino mass induction value for 11mnElectron = 2mnMuon.



    For 3 (anti)neutrinos then, the cosmological summation lower and upper bounds for (anti)neutrino oscillations are:
    0 + m
    nelectron-muon + mnelectron-tauon + mnmuon-tauon = 3(0.002982) = 0.00895 eV* and 3(0.0030+0.0546) = 3(0.0576) = 0.1728 eV* or 0.1724 eV [SI] respectively.


    Inclusion of the scalar Higgs (anti)neutrino as a fourth (anti)neutrino inertial self state extends this upper boundary by 0.0521 eV* to 0.2249 eV* or 0.2243 eV [SI].

    Sn = mnElectron + mnMuon + mnHiggs+ mnTauon = 0.0546..+0.0521..+0.0164..+0.0030 = 0.1261 eV* or 0.1258 eV.

    (Starunits[*] calibrate as {SI}: {J}=0.9948356[J*]; {s}=0.99902301[s*]; {m}=0.9983318783[m*]; {kg}=0.9962135[kg*];
    {C}=0.997296076[C*]; {eV}=0.99753285[eV*])

    In terms of the Higgs Mass Induction and so their inertial states, the Neutrinos are their own antiparticles and so Majorana defined; but in terms of their basic magneto charged nature within the Unified Filed of Quantum Relativity, the Neutrinos are different from their AntiNeutrino antiparticles in their Dirac definition of R2G2B2[+1] for the AntiNeutrinos and in B2G2R2[-1] for the Neutrinos.



    Mass

    The Standard Model of particle physics assumed that neutrinos are massless. However the experimentally established phenomenon of neutrino oscillation, which mixes neutrino flavour states with neutrino mass states (analogously to CKM mixing), requires neutrinos to have nonzero masses.[20]

    Massive neutrinos were originally conceived by Bruno Pontecorvo in the 1950s. Enhancing the basic framework to accommodate their mass is straightforward by adding a right-handed Lagrangian. This can be done in two ways. If, like other fundamental Standard Model particles, mass is generated by the Dirac mechanism, then the framework would require an SU(2) singlet. This particle would have no other Standard Model interactions (apart from the Yukawa interactions with the neutral component of the Higgs doublet), so is called a sterile neutrino. Or, mass can be generated by the Majorana mechanism, which would require the neutrino and antineutrino to be the same particle.

    The strongest upper limit on the masses of neutrinos comes from cosmology: the Big Bang model predicts that there is a fixed ratio between the number of neutrinos and the number of photons in the cosmic microwave background. If the total energy of all three types of neutrinos exceeded an average of 50 eV per neutrino, there would be so much mass in the universe that it would collapse.[37] This limit can be circumvented by assuming that the neutrino is unstable; however, there are limits within the Standard Model that make this difficult. A much more stringent constraint comes from a careful analysis of cosmological data, such as the cosmic microwave background radiation, galaxy surveys, and the Lyman-alpha forest. These indicate that the summed masses of the three neutrinos must be less than 0.3 eV.[38]

    In 1998, research results at the Super-Kamiokande neutrino detector determined that neutrinos can oscillate from one flavor to another, which requires that they must have a nonzero mass.[39] While this shows that neutrinos have mass, the absolute neutrino mass scale is still not known. This is because neutrino oscillations are sensitive only to the difference in the squares of the masses.[40]
    The best estimate of the difference in the squares of the masses of mass eigenstates 1 and 2 was published by KamLAND in 2005: |Δm212| = 0.000079 eV2.[41]

    In 2006, the MINOS experiment measured oscillations from an intense muon neutrino beam, determining the difference in the squares of the masses between neutrino mass eigenstates 2 and 3. The initial results indicate |Δm322| = 0.0027 eV2, consistent with previous results from Super-Kamiokande.[42]

    Since |Δm322| is the difference of two squared masses, at least one of them has to have a value which is at least the square root of this value. Thus, there exists at least one neutrino mass eigenstate with a mass of at least 0.04 eV.[43]

    In 2009, lensing data of a galaxy cluster were analyzed to predict a neutrino mass of about 1.5 eV.[44]
    All neutrino masses are then nearly equal, with neutrino oscillations of order meV. They lie below the Mainz-Troitsk upper bound of 2.2 eV for the electron antineutrino.[45]
    The latter will be tested in 2015 in the KATRIN experiment, that searches for a mass between 0.2 eV and 2 eV.

    A number of efforts are under way to directly determine the absolute neutrino mass scale in laboratory experiments. The methods applied involve nuclear beta decay (KATRIN and MARE) or neutrinoless double beta decay (e.g. GERDA, CUORE/Cuoricino, NEMO-3 and others).

    On 31 May 2010, OPERA researchers observed the first tau neutrino candidate event in a muon neutrino beam, the first time this transformation in neutrinos had been observed, providing further evidence that they have mass.[46]

    In July 2010 the 3-D MegaZ DR7 galaxy survey reported that they had measured a limit of the combined mass of the three neutrino varieties to be less than 0.28 eV.[47]

    A tighter upper bound yet for this sum of masses, 0.23 eV, was reported in March 2013 by the Planck collaboration,[48]
    whereas a February 2014 result estimates the sum as 0.320 ± 0.081 eV based on discrepancies between the cosmological consequences implied by Planck's detailed measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background and predictions arising from observing other phenomena, combined with the assumption that neutrinos are responsible for the observed weaker gravitational lensing than would be expected from massless neutrinos.[49]

    If the neutrino is a Majorana particle, the mass can be calculated by finding the half life of neutrinoless double-beta decay of certain nuclei. The lowest upper limit, on the Majorana mass of the neutrino, has been set by EXO-200 0.140–0.380 eV.[50]

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    {1} Matter interacts with matter based Anti-Neutrinos via Unified Weakon Action {W-+W+}

    Protons transform into neutrons with antimatter positrons, the latter which annihilate with electrons produced by the decay of 'free neutrons' back into protons, electrons and anti-neutrinos and then with energy-momentum conserving photons and so ending the process with the same components it began with.

    {Mass produced photons (by acceleration of inertia coupled electro charges), have no magnetocharge and so form their own anti-particles; whilst gauge or 'virtual' photons carry cyclic and anticyclic colour charges as consequence of the matter-antimatter asymmetry}.

    Antinelectron[] + Proton p+[-½] + VPE[0]Anti-Neutrino Spin Induction to 'flipped' Electron of the partial Matter W-minus Weakon manifesting the other part as Antineutrino Scalar

    Antinelectron[0] + {Antinelectron[+½] + Electron e-[+½]} + Graviphoton[-1] + {nelectron[-½] + Positron e+[-½]} + Graviphoton[+1] + p+[-½]

    {Antinelectron[+½] + nelectron[-½]}-Kernel VPE[0] + e+[+½] + {p+[-½] +OR-[0]} ⇨ Kernel-VPE[0] + Neutrono[-½] + Positron e+[+½], the scalar Electron Outer Ring being absorbed in the Proton spin as the resultant Neutron quantum spin

    Kernel-VPE[0] + {p+[-½] + e-[-½] + e+[+½] + Antinelectron[+½]} ⇨ (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] + p+[-½] + Antinelectron[+½] ⇨ Antinelectron[] + Proton p+[-½] + Photon[-1] + Photon[+1] in Pair-Annihilation tranforming the Mass Energy {E=mc2 into Radiation Energy E=hf for the Electron-Positron Matter-Antimatter Interaction.



    {2} Matter interacts with antimatter based Neutrinos via Unified Weakon Action {W-+W+}

    Neutrons transform into protons with muons, the latter decaying into electrons and anti-neutrinos and neutrinos, so reducing the elementary matter-neutrino interaction to basic neutron beta-minus-deacay with the leptonic coupling between the 'resonance electron' as a basic muon coupled to its neutrino.


    nmuon[] + Neutron no[+½] + VPE[0]Neutrino Spin Induction to 'flipped' Anti-Muon of the partial W-plus Weakon manifesting the other part as Neutrino Scalar

    nmuon[0] + {nmuon[-½] + Anti-Muon m+[-½]} + Graviphoton[+1] + {Antinmuon[+½] + Muon m-[+½]} + Graviphoton[-1] + no[+½]

    {Antinmuon[+½] + nmuon[-½]}-Kernel VPE[0] + m-[-½] + {no[+½] +Anti-OR+[0]} ⇨ (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] + Proton+[+½] + Muon m-[-½], the scalar Anti-Muon Outer Ring being absorbed in the Neutron spin as the resultant Proton quantum spin

    (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] + {p+[+½] + e-[-½] + Antinelectron[+½] + nmuon[-½]}
    nmuon[] + no[+½] + (KKK+OR)-VPE[0] in the original neutrino-matter interaction accessing the VPE/ZPE of the UFoQR.



    {3} Matter interacts with antimatter based Neutrinos and matter based Antineutrinos in Majorana Weakon Action Electron Capture {W-+W+}
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    An Electron in the inner atomic nucleus is captured by a proton to create a neutron accompanied by an electron neutrino. This requires a u-quark of the proton to transform into a d-quark of the neutron. As the d-quark is a KIR quark of inner mesonic ring of electro charge [+2/3] coupled to the MIR of electro charge [-1], a W-minus weakon must be engaged to couple to a left handed proton via the nonparity of the weak nuclear interaction. However in electron capture a left handed electron neutrino is emitted, requiring the interaction of a W-plus weakon as the kernel gauge for any such right handed antimatter weak decay.
    (This 'confusion' as to which weakon becomes engaged in electron capture can be seen in the three diagrams above, two of which infer the left handed W-plus and one the W-minus).

    It is in fact a W-minus, that interacts, but coupling to the left handed electron instead of a left handed proton, the latter quantum spinning right handed to allow the charge and spin conservation to crystallize the emission of the left handed electron neutrino.
    The W-minus then supplies the required KIR for the up-quark to down-quark transmutation with the gauge spin neutralizer of the left handed Graviphoton [-1] flipping the right handed electron antineutrino constituent of the W-minus into its antiparticular form of a left handed electron neutrino.
    Electron capture so displays the Dirac-Majorana nature of the two base neutrinos of the electron-positron and muon-antimuon definition in their massless gauge nature when engaged in the direct interaction or 'tapping' of the UFoQR in the Vortex-Potential-Energy or VPE/ZPE.
    The Majorana-Dirac nature of the base neutrinos then can be said to apply to all (anti)neutrinos carrying mass in their oscillation potential and properties exhibited in their wave mechanical dynamics.


    Electron-[] + Proton p+[+½] + VPE[0]Electron Spin Neutralization as Induction to Matter Parity as OR- - IR--VPE Oscillation of the partial W-plus Weakon manifesting the other part as flipped Neutrino from its Dirac AntiNeutrino base template
    Electron[0] + {Electron- [+½] + Antinelectron[+½] + Graviphoton[-1]} + Proton p+[+½] (proton as u[+½]u[-½].d[+½])


    ⇨ Proton K[+½]KIR[-½]K [+½] + OR-[0] + {Antinelectron[+½] + Graviphoton[-1]} = Proton udu[+½] + OR-[0] + {nelectron[-½]}
    ⇨ Neutron udd[+½] + VPE[0] + nelectron[-½] = KIR[+½]K[-½]KIR[+½] + nelectron[-½] + VPE[0] = Neutron no dud[+½] + nelectron[-½] + VPE[0]

    A Magneto axis symmetric Proton K(KIR)K transforms into Magneto axis symmetric Neutron KIR(K)KIR as one of the proton's end Kernel up-quarks 'captures' the Weakonic VPE scalar OR- Electron Outer Ring in the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity.
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    mνHiggs=meλw.rE/(2πrMRe){1/rG-1/rF} ~ 9.3x10-38 kg or 0.052 eV.

    A Link to the Cosmology of the Higgs Boson

    nHiggs=meλw.rE/(2πrMRe){1/rG-1/rF} ~ 9.3x10-38 kg or 0.052 eV.



    A Link to the Cosmology of the Higgs Boson

    Unlike some past announcements centered on the Higgs in the past few years, which have produced as much ambiguity and confusion as anything else, this one did not disappoint. ATLAS physicists said that their most recent data reveal the presence of an unknown particle with a mass of about 126.5 GeV, or 126.5 billion electron-volts. An electron-volt is a physicist’s unit of mass or energy; for comparison, the proton has a mass of about 1 GeV. The CMS collaboration found evidence for a new particle with a mass of 125.3 GeV.

    """Then extending the minimum energy levels, like as in the case to calculate the charged weakon gauge field agent energy in the charm and the VPE perturbations as per the table given, specifies the 125 GeV energy level in the Perturbation Integral/Summation:

    2x{55.956+5.246+1.606+0.491+0.151+0.046+0.014} GeV* = 127.02 GeV*, which become about 126.71 GeV SI as an UPPER LIMIT for this 'Higgs Boson' at the Dainty quark resonance level from the Thuban Dragon Omni-Science.
    Using the 3 Diquark energy levels U,D and S yield 2x{55.956+5.246+1.606} GeV* = 125.62 GeV* and 125.31 GeV SI."""




    New Particle Resembling Long-Sought Higgs Boson Uncovered at Large Hadron Collider

    The CERN collider, the most powerful atom smasher in history, appears to have fulfilled its primary quest.

    By John Matson - July 4, 2012


    The Higgs Boson at Last? A newfound particle at the Large Hadron Collider looks much like the fabled Higgs on July 12, 2012

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    GATHER ROUND:
    Dozens of students and physicists gathered at Columbia University's Low Library early Wednesday morning to get the latest news on the Higgs boson.
    Image: John Matson​


    NEW YORK—The city that never sleeps was mostly asleep. The bars were closed. But at 4:45 A.M., inside a library on Columbia University's Manhattan campus, Michael Tuts was getting ready to pop the champagne.

    The physicist had good reason to celebrate. The massive team of scientists of which he is a part—3,000 researchers working on the ATLAS experiment at Europe's Large Hadron Collider—had just announced the discovery of a new particle. The particle looks an awful lot like the long-sought, and long-hypothetical, Higgs boson, most famous for explaining why elementary particles, such as quarks, have mass. A competing, comparably sized experiment, known as CMS, had arrived at a very similar finding at the collider facility.

    Both research teams announced their results during a morning seminar at CERN, the European laboratory for particle physics that operates the Large Hadron Collider, or LHC. But the morning start in Geneva meant that U.S. physicists and other curious observers were tuning in to the announcement during the predawn hours. Tuts and his Columbia colleagues decided to host a viewing party at the campus library, with a live video feed from CERN as well as coffee, cookies, soft drinks and chips. About 50 people, many of them students, turned up for the event, which began around 2:30 A.M.

    Unlike some past announcements centered on the Higgs in the past few years, which have produced as much ambiguity and confusion as anything else, this one did not disappoint. ATLAS physicists said that their most recent data reveal the presence of an unknown particle with a mass of about 126.5 GeV, or 126.5 billion electron-volts. An electron-volt is a physicist’s unit of mass or energy; for comparison, the proton has a mass of about 1 GeV. The CMS collaboration found evidence for a new particle with a mass of 125.3 GeV.

    Crucially, both teams' findings appear exceptionally robust. In physics terms, evidence for a new particle requires a “3-sigma” measurement, corresponding to a 1-in-740 chance that a random fluke could explain the observations, and a claim of discovery requires a 5-sigma effect, or a 1-in–3.5 million shot that the observations are due to chance. In December representatives of the two experiments had announced what one called “intriguing, tantalizing hints” of something brewing in the collider data. But those hints fell short of the 3-sigma level. The new ATLAS finding met not just that level of significance but cleared the gold standard 5-sigma threshold, and CMS very nearly did as well, with a 4.9-sigma finding.

    "This is the payoff," Tuts said after the two teams had announced their latest analyses in the Higgs hunt. "This is what you do it for." Peter Higgs himself, who was in Geneva for the seminar along with other eminent physicists who developed the theory, sounded a similar note after the ATLAS and CMS teams had unveiled their conclusions. "For me, it's really an incredible thing that it's happened in my lifetime," Higgs said to the audience at CERN. He was among a half-dozen physicists who in the 1960s proposed what is now known as the Higgs mechanism, hypothesizing the existence of a field permeating all of space, along with an associated particle. The field imparts particles with mass by exerting a sort of drag on them, slowing them down much like a human being slows down when she tries to walk through water instead of air.

    The newfound particle fits the bill for the Higgs boson, but the researchers cautioned that more work is needed to compare the properties of the particle to those predicted for the Higgs. After all, the LHC’s detectors cannot identify the Higgs directly. The LHC accelerates protons to unprecedented energies of four trillion electron-volts (4 TeV) before colliding a clockwise-traveling proton beam with a counterclockwise beam. From the smash-up new particles emerge, some of them existing for just an instant before decaying to other particles.



    {Commentary on the Higgs Boson Discovery}
    JCER - Vol 2, No 13 (2011) Journal of Consciousness Exploration & Research


    Hints of Higgs Boson at 125 GeV Are Found:
    Congratulations to All the People at LHC!


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    Refined Higgs Rumours, Higgs Boson Live Blog: Analysis of the CERN Announcement, Has CERN Found the God Particle? A Calculation, Electron Spin Precession for the Time Fractional Pauli Equation, Plane Wave Solutions of Weakened Field Equations in a Plane Symmetric Space-time-II, Plane Wave Solutions of Field Equations of Israel and Trollope's Unified Field Theory in V5, If the LHC Particle Is Real, What Is One of the Other Possibilities than the Higgs Boson? What is Reality in a Holographic World? Searching for Earth’s Twin.

    Editor: Huping HU, Ph.D., J.D.; Editor-at-Large: Philip E. Gibbs, Ph.D.

    ISSN: 2153-8301


    Dear Huping!


    The Higgs Boson resonance, found by ATLAS and CMS is a diquark resonance.

    Excerpt:

    "Ok, now I'll print some excerpt for the more technically inclined reader regarding the Higgs Boson and its 'make-up', but highlight the important relevant bit (wrt to this discovery of a 160 GeV Higgs Boson energy, and incorporating the lower energy between 92 GeV and to the upper dainty level at 130 GeV as part of the diquark triplet of the associated topomium energy level) at the end.

    In particular, as the bottomium doublet minimum is at 5,245.495 MeV* and the topomium triplet minimum is at 55,956.0 MeV* in terms of their characteristic Kernel-Means, their doubled sum indicates a particle-decay excess at the recently publisized ~125 GeV energy level in 2x(5.246+55.956) GeV* = 122.404 GeV* (or 122.102 GeV SI).
    These are the two means from ATLAS {116-130 GeV as 123 GeV} and CMS {115-127 GeV as 121 GeV} respectively.

    http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR25.11E.html

    Then extending the minimum energy levels, like as in the case to calculate the charged weakon gauge field agent energy in the charm and the VPE perturbations as per the table given, specifies the 125 GeV energy level in the Perturbation Integral/Summation:

    2x{55.956+5.246+1.606+0.491+0.151+0.046+0.014} GeV* = 127.02 GeV*, which become about 126.71 GeV SI as an UPPER LIMIT for this 'Higgs Boson' at the Dainty quark resonance level from the Thuban Dragon Omni-Science.
    Using the 3 Diquark energy levels U,D and S yield 2x{55.956+5.246+1.606} GeV* = 125.62 GeV* and 125.31 GeV SI.""





    This newest data/discovery about the Higgs Boson aka the 'God-Particle' states, that there seems to be a 'resonance-blip' at an energy of about 160 GeV and as just one of say 5 Higgs Bosons for a 'minimal supersymmetry'.
    One, the lowest form of the Higgs Boson is said to be about 110 GeV in the Standard Model. There is also a convergence of the HB to an energy level of so 120 GeV from some other models.
    Now the whole thing , according to Quantum Relativity' about the Higgs Boson, is that IT IS NOT a particular particle, but relates to ALL particles in its 'scalar nature' as a restmass inducer.

    I have discussed the Higgs Boson many times before; but would like here to show in a very simple analysis that the Higgs Boson MUST show a blip at the 160 GeV mark and due to its nature as a 'polarity' neutraliser (a scalar particle has no charge and no spin, but can be made up of two opposite electric charges and say two opposing chiralities of spin orientations.)

    Without worrying about details, first consider the following table which contains all the elementary particles of the standard model of particle physics. The details are found in the Planck-String transformations discussed elesewhere.

    The X-Boson's mass is: ([Alpha]xmps/[ec]) modulated in (SNI/EMI={Cuberoot of [Alpha]}/[Alpha]), the intrisic unified Interaction-Strength and as the L-Boson's mass in: ([Omega]x([ec])/(mpsxa<2/3>), where the (Cuberoot of [Alpha]2 is given by the symbol (a<2/3>)=EMI/SNI).

    Ten DIQUARK quark-mass-levels crystallise, including a VPE-level for the K-IR transition and a VPE-level for the IR-OR transition:

    VPE-Level [K-IR] is (26.4922-29.9621 MeV*) for K-Mean: (14.11358 MeV*); (2.8181-3.1872 MeV*) for IROR;
    VPE-Level [IR-OR] is (86.5263-97.8594 MeV*) for K-Mean: (46.09643 MeV*); (9.2042-10.410 MeV*) for IROR;
    UP/DOWN-Level is (282.5263-319.619 MeV*) for K-Mean: (150.5558 MeV*); (30.062-33.999 MeV*) for IROR;
    STRANGE-Level is (923.013-1,043.91 MeV*) for K-Mean: (491.7308 MeV*); (98.185-111.05 MeV*) for IROR;
    CHARM-Level is (3,014.66-3,409.51 MeV*) for K-Mean: (1,606.043 MeV*); (320.68-362.69 MeV*) for IROR;
    BEAUTY-Level is (9,846.18-11,135.8 MeV*) for K-Mean: (5,245.495 MeV*); (1,047.4-1,184.6 MeV*) for IROR;
    MAGIC-Level is (32,158.6-36,370.7 MeV*) for K-Mean: (17,132.33 MeV*); (3,420.9-3,868.9 MeV*) for IROR;
    DAINTY-Level is (105,033-118,791 MeV*) for K-Mean: (55,956.0 MeV*); (11,173-12,636 MeV*) for IROR;
    TRUTH-Level is (343,050-387,982 MeV*) for K-Mean: (182,758.0 MeV*); (36,492-41,271 MeV*) for IROR;
    SUPER-Level is (1,120,437-1,267,190 MeV*) for K-Mean: (596,906.8 MeV*); (119,186-134,797 MeV*) for IROR.

    The K-Means define individual materialising families of elementary particles;

    the (UP/DOWN-Mean) sets the (PION-FAMILY: po, p+, p-);
    the (STRANGE-Mean) specifies the (KAON-FAMILY: Ko, K+, K-);
    the (CHARM-Mean) defines the (J/PSI=J/Y-Charmonium-FAMILY);
    the (BEAUTY-Mean) sets the (UPSILON=U-Bottonium-FAMILY);
    the (MAGIC-Mean) specifies the (EPSILON=E-FAMILY);
    the (DAINTY-Mean) bases the (OMICRON-O-FAMILY);
    the (TRUTH-Mean) sets the (KOPPA=J-Topomium-FAMILY) and
    the (SUPER-Mean) defines the final quark state in the (HIGGS/CHI=H/C-FAMILY).

    The VPE-Means are indicators for average effective quarkmasses found in particular interactions.
    Kernel-K-mixing of the wavefunctions gives K(+)=60.210 MeV* and K(-)=31.983 MeV* and the IROR-Ring-Mixing gives (L(+)=6.405 MeV* and L(-)=3.402 MeV*) for a (L-K-Mean of 1.50133 MeV*) and a (L-IROR-Mean of 4.90349 MeV*); the Electropole ([e-]=0.52049 MeV*) as the effective electronmass and as determined from the electronic radius and the magnetocharge in the UFoQR.

    The restmasses for the elementary particles can now be constructed, using the basic nucleonic restmass (mc=9.9247245x10-28 kg*=(Squareroot of [Omega]xmP) and setting (mc) as the basic maximum (UP/DOWN-K-mass=mass(KERNEL CORE)=3xmass(KKK)=3x319.62 MeV*=958.857 MeV*);
    Subtracting the (Ring VPE 3xL(+)=19.215 MeV*, one gets the basic nucleonic K-state for the atomic nucleus (made from protons and neutrons) in: {m(n0;p+)=939.642 MeV*}.

    The HB discussed in the New Scientist post below is said of having been measured in the decay of W's, Z's and Tau Leptons, as well as the bottom- and top-quark systems described in the table and the text above.

    Now in the table I write about the KIR-OR transitions and such. The K means core for kernel and the IR means InnerRing and the OR mean OuterRing. The Rings are all to do with Leptons and the Kernels with Quarks.

    So the Tau-decay relates to 'Rings' which are charmed and strange and bottomised and topped, say. They are higher energy manifestations of the basic nucleons of the proton and the neutrons and basic mesons and hyperons.

    As I have shown, the energy resonances of the Z-boson (uncharged) represents an 'average' or statistical mean value of the 'Top-Quark' and the Upper-Limit for the Higgs Boson is a similar 'Super-Quark' 'average' and as the weak interaction unification energy.

    The hitherto postulated Higgs Boson mass of so 110 GeV is the Omicron-resonance, fully predicted from the table above (unique to Quantum Relativity).
    Now the most fundamental way to generate the Higgs Boson as a 'weak interaction' gauge is through the coupling of two equal mass, but oppositely charged W-bosons (of whom the Zo is the uncharged counterpart).

    We have seen, that the W-mass is a summation of all the other quark-masses as kernel-means from the strangeness upwards to the truth-quark level.
    So simply doubling the 80.47 GeV mass of the weak-interaction gauge boson must represent the basic form of the Higgs Boson and that is 160.9 GeV.

    Simplicity indeed and just the way Quantum Relativity describes the creation of the Higgs Boson from even more fundamental templates of the so called 'gauges'. The Higgs Boson is massless but consists of two classical electron rings and a massless doubled neutrino kernel, and then emerges in the magnetocharge induction AS mass carrying gauges.

    This massless neutrino kernel now crystallises our atomic solar system.

    Next we interpret this scalar (or sterile) Double-Higgs (anti)neutrino as a majoron and lose the distinction between antineutrino and neutrino eigenstates.

    We can only do this in the case of the Zo decay pattern, which engage the boson spin of the Zo as a superposition of two antineutrinos for the matter case and the superposition of two neutrinos in the antimatter case from first principles.

    So the Zo IS a Majorana particle, which merges the templates of two antineutrinos say and SPININDUCES the Higgs-Antineutrino.
    And where does this occur? It occurs at the Mesonic-Inner-Ring Boundary previously determined at the 2.776x10-18 meter marker.
    This marker so specifies the Zo Boson energy level explicitely as an upper boundary relative to the displacement scale set for the kernel at the wormhole radius rw=lw/2π and the classical electron radius as the limit for the nuclear interaction scale at 3 fermis in: RcomptonxAlpha.

    So the particle masses of the standard model in QED and QCD become Compton-Masses, which are HIGGS-MASSINDUCED at the Mesonic-Inner-Ring (MIR) marker at RMIR=2.776x10-18 meters.

    The Compton masses are directly obtained from E=hf=mc2=hc/λ and say as characteristic particle energies.
    At the Leptonic-Outer-Ring or LOR; λLOR=2πRe and at the MIR λMIR=2πRMIR for characteristic energies of 71.38 GeV and 71.33 MeV respectively.

    So we know that the Higgs-Mass-Induction occurs at those energy levels from the elementary template and as experimentally verified in terms of the neutrino masses by Super-Kamiokande in 1998.
    The LOR-energy of course indicates the Muon mass as a 'heavy electron' and the MIR-energy indicates the associated 'heavy quark' mass.

    This has been described before in the general mass induction scales for the diquarks as consequence from the bosonic bifurcation of string masses (XL-Boson string splits into quark- and lepton fermions as fundamental supersymmetry and the magnification of the Planck-scale).
    We also know, that the elementary proto-nucleon seed mc has grown in a factor of Yn~(1.618034)n~1.72 for a present n=1.1324..to create the present nucleonmasses in a perturbation of its finestructure.
    Subsequently, the MIR-energy of 71.38 GeV represents a Zo-Boson seed, which has similarly increased between a factor of √(Yn)~1.313 and Yn~1.724.

    These values so give present boundary conditions for the Higgs Boson in terms of its Zo coupling as the interval {93.73-123.09} GeV* or {93.50-122.79} GeV. The latter interval reduces by 1.58% to {92.02-120.85} GeV, as we have used the 'effective electron mass' me, differing in that percentage from the bare electron's restmass in our calculations.
    The lower bounded HB so manifests in the form of the Zo and as the majorana Higgs-Induction and coupled to the Spin-Induction of the Scalar Higgs Antineutrino.
    As described previously; the Zo-Boson mass is the mean of the top-quark K-Mean as 91.380 GeV* = 91.155 GeV and so relates the quark energy levels to the Higgs inductions for both spin and inertia. This occurs at the down-strange ds-diquark level of the cosmogenesis.

    The W-Boson masses are the summation of the quark K-Means and represents the summation of all lower diquark energy levels from doubleup to doubledown.
    As the down-strange or MIR-LOR energy level is coupled as a Kernel-MIR level in the bottom-antibottom mesonic diquark system, the energy difference between the Zo- and the W-bosons should amount to that b-quark energy of about 10 GeV and which indeed is experimentally verified as such.
    Finally the doublestrange diquark level then becomes the well known Fermi-Energy of the Superquark K-Mean at 298.453 GeV*=297.717 GeV and which reduces to 293.013 GeV in the 1.58% in the SI mensuration system for an Fermi energy of 1.165x10-5 1/GeV2.

    Quantum Relativity then stipulates, that the Higgs-Mass-Induction energies will assume particular energy value related to the diquark mass induction table of the K-Means, coupled to the weakon masses as indicated.
    The overarching energy level is however that at 92 GeV as the lower bound and as represented in the definition of the Zo-Boson as a Majorana Spininduced scalar Higgs boson. The upper bound is the Fermi energy of the Super-Diquark as a doublestrange.
    This 92 GeV level represents a seedling energy of 71.38 GeV from the primordial universe and when the XL-Boson aka the heterotic string class HO(32) decayed into a fermionic quark-lepton bifurcation and which today is represented in the diquark eigenstates of the standard model in particle physics through its Unitary Symmetries.



    Tony B. - December 28th, 2014 -Queanbeyan, NSW, Australia

    http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/
    http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/ind...tring-and-supermembrane-epsess.886/#post-4827


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    Cover Letter:

    The existence of a scalar neutrino of 0.052 eV and centred at a 3 eV energy level within the subatomic quantum geometric template of the Higgs Boson is proposed.
    The mass induction of elementary particles by the Higgs mechanism so proceeds as a Kernel-Ring coupling between the boundary conditions of the subatomic template descriptive for the quantum geometry of the Higgs Boson, upper bounded by the classical electron radius also being a kernel-ring oscillation between the up-quark and the s-quark.

    It encompasses a gluon-neutrino transformation as the asymptotic confinement of the colour charge here extended as a cosmic magneto charge related to a magnetic GUT-monopole at the string epoch, preceeding and not following the standard Big Bang cosmogenesis.
    Four cosmological (Anti)Neutrino masses are found.
    {mTauon; mHiggs; mMuon; mElectron} = {0.0546 eV; 0.0521 eV; 0.0164 eV; 0.002982 eV}.

    The current energy level separating the Tauon- and Muon neutrinos is found to be the 0.052 eV level from Super Kamiokande (1998) and MINOS (2006); but is proposed to add the energies of the Higgs Neutrino and the Muon Neutrino to result in the energy of the Tauon Neutrino. The scalar nature of the Higgs neutrino so supplements the Majorana form of the Muon Neutrino.
    The current energy level separating the Muon- and Electron neutrinos is found to add 3 electron neutrino masses as the difference between the standard squared mass difference and a superposed squared differential between their mass eigenvalues. This energy value calculates as the current measured KamLAND (2005) value of 0.00008 eV².

    The electron neutrino mass is defined from first principles as the energy value for the ratio between the Higgs neutrino mass and the electron mass in the Big Bang cosmogenesis so 1.1 million seconds (about 13 days) after the Big Bang.
    The quantum geometry of the nuclear gauge interactions is shown to manifest the standard Big Bang classical geometry then found in the dynamics of an expanding universe as a Planckian Black Body Radiator which manifested the energy gradients of the first generation stars (here termed ylem stars) not as function of their masses, but as a function of their temperatures relative to the temperature background of the Black Body expansion.
    The Higgs Boson mass of about 125 GeV is confirmed in a cosmological model here termed Quantum Relativity (QR) and is shown to represent the summation of lower diquark-lepton energy levels.

    In particular, as the bottomium doublet minimum is at 5,245.495 MeV* and the topomium triplet minimum is at 55,956.0 MeV* in terms of their characteristic Kernel-Means, their doubled sum indicates a particle-decay excess at the recently publisized ~125 GeV energy level in 2x(5.246+55.956) GeV* = 122.404 GeV* (or 122.102 GeV SI).
    These are the two means from ATLAS {116-130 GeV as 123 GeV} and CMS {115-127 GeV as 121 GeV} respectively.
    http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR25.11E.html
    Then extending the minimum energy levels, like as in the case to calculate the charged weakon gauge field agent energy in the charm and the VPE perturbations as per the table given, specifies the 125 GeV energy level in the Perturbation Integral/Summation:
    2x{55.956+5.246+1.606+0.491+0.151+0.046+0.014} GeV* = 127.02 GeV*, which become about 126.71 GeV SI as an UPPER LIMIT for this 'Higgs Boson' at the Dainty quark resonance level.
    Using the 3 Diquark energy levels U,D and S yield 2x{55.956+5.246+1.606} GeV* = 125.62 GeV* and 125.31 GeV SI.""

    Requested Editor: Science Editor


    [2:32:24 AM-December 28th, 2014 -+11UCT] Shiloh Za-Rah: I resubmitted, as this lot is actually the most prestigous science publisher next to Nature-UK. Look here:
    [2:33:33 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Science
    [2:34:06 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They reject 93% of papers from university addresses, so my chances of being published are basically 0
    [2:34:45 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: BUT, as said, this represents evidence that if the ET science arrives it will not be an invasion but a change of the guard
    [2:35:22 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The above is the covering letter
    [5:37:39 AM] Sirius 17: can you resend the pdf in here, it didn't send
    [5:38:34 AM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent The Higgs Neutrino.pdf ***
    [5:39:28 AM] Sirius 17: thanks
    [5:39:37 AM] Sirius 17: i just checked my email
    [5:39:43 AM] Sirius 17: i think i am seeing everything ok
    [5:42:18 AM] Sirius 17: so what happens if they do publish and you become famous? lol
    [5:42:39 AM] Sirius 17: win the nobel ect
    [5:43:38 AM] Sirius 17: then you can tell them that Einstein was waiting for someone to listen so he could finish his work lol
    [5:43:38 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Not very likely, but Logos wanted me to at least send this to folks who COULD understand this.
    [5:44:17 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They reject it it is fine, because then when ET contacts occurs the proof that the ET science is a product of Gaian ETs is established
    [5:44:41 AM] Sirius 17: yes true




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    empty. Raven Today at 11:17 pm
    A word to the Wizards and Sages

    by Brook

    February 4, 2015 at 10:13am

    "Practice" of the practitioner is what the coherentism and thought form represent in such spell binding. The use of words and symbols.

    Coherentists typically hold that justification is solely a function of some relationship between beliefs. One must justify that relationship when one believe that Magic and it's "practice" have a lasting effect in the use of word spell and intention within it's use. It has a half life and must be generated over and over for a lasting effect.

    For in the oldest spell binding recorded where does the power lie? The practitioner is ever seeking to find the great secret of secrets to be the Wizard of Wizards.

    Allow me for a moment to share something with the Practicing Wizard.


    In Egypt they followed the Sun....The Sun Gives Best Results on the path. Rising and setting each day to illuminate the Path



    10847789_849513491775086_6129729065044986685_n.



    No time (0)

    Zero is not nothing...it's a place holder between -1 and +1 to infinity both ways (- & +)...along the path. The Magician is +1 the fool with the bag he carries opened on the table.

    An infinite number of ways to read the Tarot

    It's been said "Tarot" came from the Egyptian words Tar, "path" or "road", and the word Ro, Ros or Rog, meaning "King" or "royal", and that the Tarot literally translated to the Royal Road of Life...THE PATH

    The Path of the Fool... Carrying his bag of tricks

    10959693_849034858489616_5443045584354827865_n.


    The Juggler(of +1 life) preforming acts of Magic; Action and illusion.


    Bag open on the table
    #1


    10958732_849035311822904_8858786715309181315_n.


    ~

    The goal of the Wizard/Magician

    Over coming obstacles

    Reaching potential

    Exceeding expectations.


    With or without the use of symbol of visual semiotics? Is it still Magic?



    View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6zTvrGirfg



    Yet man and king from the dawn of time has followed the Magician

    One of the oldest spells cast by the ancient practice leads to other points in time (o)

    Interpreting the spell in the Coffin Texts:

    The peripheral surface of a black hole is an Event Horizon.

    If you fall into the black hole you will get crushed.

    Egyptian: Second death.


    If approached from the inner horizon or the axis of the black hole or the north
    pole, the gravitational repulsion of the central singularity slows the entity
    down, turning it around, and accelerating it back out through the inner horizon of a
    white hole. Put simply, the space axis and time axis exchange places when one crosses
    the outer event horizon, and the future becomes an unavoidable place in
    time or the crushing singularity. Crossing the inner event horizon, time and space resume their normal axes, making the singularity an avoidable place in space, while allowing access to the past singularity of the white hole. Ultimately, one goes through four horizons



    Egyptians referred to as the opening of mouths four times. The Opening of the
    Mouth ceremony parallels the movement of the Deceased through four horizons.



    According to scientific speculations, inside a spinning black hole, the act
    of looking backward would allow one to see a white hole or the past singularity.
    Since a white hole is a black hole running backward in time, the Negative
    Confession of the Book of the Dead describes deities:


    "Who come forth backwards".

    "He whose Face is behind him who came forth from his hole".

    The inner horizon, radiation is blueshifted as it accumulates.


    Field of Turquoise and the Blue One, Lake of Turquoise,
    traveling with turquoise, Lord of Turquoise, and open door of the blue sky.


    Indicates blueshift or the high frequency light associated with
    approaching radiation.


    In contrast, radiation moving away from the observer appears redshifted.

    The Dead King observes:

    He who departs is red and smeared


    "N" has gone up in the red hour.
    (N State described in video below starting at 1:16)



    View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTGInIbD_Q




    According to Holographic principal: All Information about the black hole is stored on the horizon....The peripheral!

    Particles living on the horizon boundary describe objects in the interior.



    If what I have just proposed is correct then this ancient culture must certainly KNOW the landscape of space and time with great detail to know the redshift and blueshift attributes.


    Dead Kings escapes the black hole Netherworld associated with
    uraei shedding "light by means of their radiance (which cometh) from their mouths"


    Or uraei pouring fire from their mouths:

    The mouths of a wormhole are analogous to the holes at either end of the tube in a 2D plane...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

    A quantum parallel exists between the transformed Deceased and Hawking radiance in the bulk, proposing the existence of large extra dimensions in small black holes.


    The Dead King is a horizon dweller: has a
    seat in the horizon, and takes possession of the horizon


    so that those who are in the horizon may live for this spirit

    "My power is in the horizon"

    ~The Ancient Egyptian Coffin Texts - R.O. Faulkner ~


    Yet man and king from the dawn of time has followed the Magician

    One of the oldest spells cast by the ancient practice leads to other points in time (o)

    Interpreting the spell in the Coffin Texts:

    The peripheral surface of a black hole is an Event Horizon.

    If you fall into the black hole you will get crushed.

    Egyptian: Second death.


    If approached from the inner horizon or the axis of the black hole or the north
    pole, the gravitational repulsion of the central singularity slows the entity
    down, turning it around, and accelerating it back out through the inner horizon of a
    white hole. Put simply, the space axis and time axis exchange places when one crosses
    the outer event horizon, and the future becomes an unavoidable place in
    time or the crushing singularity. Crossing the inner event horizon, time and space resume their normal axes, making the singularity an avoidable place in space, while allowing access to the past singularity of the white hole. Ultimately, one goes through four horizons



    Egyptians referred to as the opening of mouths four times. The Opening of the
    Mouth ceremony parallels the movement of the Deceased through four horizons.



    According to scientific speculations, inside a spinning black hole, the act
    of looking backward would allow one to see a white hole or the past singularity.
    Since a white hole is a black hole running backward in time, the Negative
    Confession of the Book of the Dead describes deities:


    "Who come forth backwards".

    "He whose Face is behind him who came forth from his hole".

    The inner horizon, radiation is blueshifted as it accumulates.


    Field of Turquoise and the Blue One, Lake of Turquoise,
    traveling with turquoise, Lord of Turquoise, and open door of the blue sky.


    Indicates blueshift or the high frequency light associated with
    approaching radiation.


    In contrast, radiation moving away from the observer appears redshifted.

    The Dead King observes:

    he who departs is red and smeared


    "N" has gone up in the red hour.
    (N State described in video below starting at 1:16)




    According to Holographic principal: All Information about the black hole is stored on the horizon....The peripheral!



    Particles living on the horizon boundary describe objects in the interior.





    Peripheral Sensor/Surface

    Peripheral: Of, relating to, or situated on the edge or periphery of something.

    Redefining the Horizon:



    View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTGInIbD_Q


    To conclude is the "practice" of the power of "word" the real magic? Do those who use such word and visual semiotics have the power of a true Wizard?

    The Wizard's goal is to become the Sage where no words need to be used through wisdom.


    He had a cloak of gold
    And eyes of fire
    And as he spoke I felt a deep desire
    To free the world of its fear and pain
    And help the people to feel free again


    Why don't we listen to the voices in our hearts
    'Cause then I know we'd find we're not so far apart
    Everybody's got to be happy
    Everyone should sing
    For we know the joy of life
    The peace that love can bring


    So spoke the wizard in his mountain home
    The vision of his wisdom means we'll never be alone
    And I will dream of my magic night
    And the million silver stars that guide me with their light



    View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq8nQOhZ3u8


    Become the wiser Sage Magician and words come easily without a doubt in their application.

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    [9:21:11 AM] Sirius 17:
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTGInIbD_Q

    Brook posted this on her fb

    [9:21:26 AM] Sirius 17: specifically watch this and tell me what you think of this
    [9:21:57 AM] Sirius 17: she posted all of this with pics and such, i looked on Moa to see if she posted there but she didn't
    [9:22:11 AM] Sirius 17: she must be irritated with them like us
    [9:26:57 AM] Sirius 17: seems she doubled the text, sorry about that
    [9:27:17 AM] Sirius 17: https://www.facebook.com/notes/793786464028161/ here is the link to it on her fb
    [10:35:44 AM] Sirius 17: http://io9.com/5937356/prominent-sc...animals-have-conscious-awareness-just-like-us Barbara shared this on fb. Not that we didn't already know this fundamentally but now it seems that the worlds scientists are formally stating this. I am sharing it because it is an interesting development in the timing of things don't you think?
    [10:36:32 AM] Sirius 17: oh wait i did not see the date of this article
    [10:36:55 AM] Sirius 17: it is from 8-23-2012
    [10:37:13 AM] Sirius 17: hmm i missed this back then
    [10:38:12 AM] Sirius 17: still interesting anyhow
    [4:18:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
    [4:21:27 AM] Sirius 17: specifically watch this and tell me what you think of this
    [4:19:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Fundamentally flawed as those two virtual particles DO NOT exist as one outside and one inside the Black Hole
    [4:19:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: On this depends the entire argument of this video
    [4:20:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Susskind debates this 'firewall' in the lecture we posted
    [4:20:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is related to the relativity of the entangled observers as Susskind says or hints at. Hawking dismisses the 'firewall' and proposes an 'apparent event horizon' to 'safe' certain fundamental principles of physics, such as the equivalence principle and unitarity and quantum field theoretical postulates. The videos I shall share regarding this describe this in more technical detail.
    [4:22:19 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The trouble with Hawking Radiation, another main pillar of this video is also flawed as those virtual particles are not virtual but gauged
    [4:23:28 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Brook has, as she often does used youtube videos and a particular scientific, here astrophysical opinion or proposal and taken as as her cosmology or linked to it
    [4:24:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As you know i have no supportive opinion on her scientific sources in particular her allegiance intellectual to ..what his name? Jack Sarfatti lol
    [4:26:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Her fb site is well a continuation of her Moa threads with good science and metaphysics intermixed with silly nabs
    [4:27:33 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Overall a silly science in this video based on the erroneous assumptions about the nature of Black Holes and virtual energy fields
    [4:28:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If their presumptions were sound of course they could propagate their arguments the way they do
    [4:30:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Their entanglement states are correct of course but the mechanics of this quantum entanglement are not Hawking Radiation nor virtual particle fields but physical consciousness as angular quantum spin acceleration
    [4:30:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If you like use this short description as a reply
    [4:31:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I will add the link of Susskind, where he mentions this firewall as Black Hole substitute idea
    [4:31:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah:
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMRYZMv0jRE

    [4:34:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This video imo is the correct description of what a Black Hole is and how its inside and outside spacetime are quantum entangled
    [4:38:38 PM] Sirius 17: http://yournewswire.com/cern-to-attempt-big-bang-in-march-stephen-hawking-issues-warning/
    [4:38:42 PM] Sirius 17: look at this bs
    [4:38:53 PM] Sirius 17: Hathor shared this bs
    [4:39:06 PM] Sirius 17: i am trying to find anything that says Hawking didn't freaking say this
    [4:39:23 PM] Sirius 17: plus i was cooking spaghetti
    [4:39:39 PM] Sirius 17: my sauce has to simmer for a few hours
    [4:39:45 PM] Sirius 17: so i got it all going
    [4:40:06 PM] Sirius 17: and yeah i figured that brooks video was bogus bs too
    [4:40:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol Hawking would have addressed some characteristics of the mass giving properties of the HB and none of this BS
    [4:40:45 PM] Sirius 17: if you google this it is all over the web this pseudo quote of his
    [4:40:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This source is nabs from the start and no reputable science source
    [4:40:49 PM] Sirius 17: it is so annoying
    [4:41:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes and this is like the Isis
    [4:41:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Polarisation of truth and falseness

    susskind-.16702.
     
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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. Brook Today at 12:03 pm
    Well Good Morning Thubans!

    Raven nicked my FB page? Are you Sirius?

    icon_study.



    10922622_850234781702957_4010313609516037290_n.

    I think through the process of osmosis the caffeine had finally kicked in and and can officially say the connotation of the above has entirely gone over the head of the scientist extraordinaire.


    That entire thing had nothing to do with the science behind the "60 symbols" station which had no affiliation btw to Sarfatti....

    http://www.sixtysymbols.com/

    but:


    Everything to do with Visual Semiotics and the power of symbols behind the use of spells and magic.

    The coffin text spells:

    Egyptian: Second death.

    If approached from the inner horizon or the axis of the black hole or the north
    pole, the gravitational repulsion of the central singularity slows the entity
    down, turning it around, and accelerating it back out through the inner horizon of a
    white hole. Put simply, the space axis and time axis exchange places when one crosses
    the outer event horizon, and the future becomes an unavoidable place in
    time or the crushing singularity. Crossing the inner event horizon, time and space resume their normal axes, making the singularity an avoidable place in space, while allowing access to the past singularity of the white hole. Ultimately, one goes through four horizons

    ~
    Egyptians referred to as the opening of mouths four times. The Opening of the
    Mouth ceremony parallels the movement of the Deceased through four horizons.


    According to scientific speculations, inside a spinning black hole, the act
    of looking backward would allow one to see a white hole or the past singularity.
    Since a white hole is a black hole running backward in time, the Negative
    Confession of the Book of the Dead describes deities:

    "Who come forth backwards".

    "He whose Face is behind him who came forth from his hole".

    The inner horizon, radiation is blueshifted as it accumulates.

    Field of Turquoise and the Blue One, Lake of Turquoise,
    traveling with turquoise, Lord of Turquoise, and open door of the blue sky.

    Indicates blueshift or the high frequency light associated with
    approaching radiation.

    In contrast, radiation moving away from the observer appears redshifted.
    The Dead King observes:

    he who departs is red and smeared

    "N" has gone up in the red hour.
    (N State described in video below starting at 1:16)



    According to Holographic principal: All Information about the black hole is stored on the horizon....The peripheral!

    Particles living on the horizon boundary describe objects in the interior.


    If what I have just proposed is correct then this ancient culture must certainly KNOW the landscape of space and time with great detail to know the redshift and blueshift attributes.

    Dead Kings escapes the black hole Netherworld associated with
    uraei shedding "light by means of their radiance (which cometh) from their mouths"

    or uraei pouring fire from their mouths:

    The mouths of a wormhole are analogous to the holes at either end of the tube in a 2D plane...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

    a quantum parallel exists between the transformed Deceased and Hawking radiance in the bulk, proposing the existence of large extra dimensions in small black holes.

    The Dead King is a horizon dweller: has a
    seat in the horizon, and takes possession of the horizon

    so that those who are in the horizon may live for this spirit

    "My power is in the horizon"

    ~The Ancient Egyptian Coffin Texts - R.O. Faulkner ~


    The point: half life and use thereof. Period.

    They say a picture is worth a thousand words:

    Osiris/Orion

    2w33rph.

    Bio chemical substance/process produced by the body ~ Without it, well...death would be imminent.


    16c1b3a.



    Hint: Compare the images. Turn one sideways to see the similarity. icon_cyclops.


    So what is that image of?

    That's a Glucose transporter (hunter) titled

    Beta-D-Glucose which starts the

    Gluconeogenesis Pathway consisting of a series of "eleven" enzyme-catalyzed reactions.

    In humans the main gluconeogenic precursors are lactate, glycerol, alanine and glutamine.

    Glucose is the human body's key source of energy.

    Glucose is a primary source of energy for the brain, so its availability influences psychological processes. When glucose is low, psychological processes requiring mental effort (e.g., self-control, effortful decision-making) are impaired.

    ~

    Lactose is a disaccharide sugar derived from galactose and glucose that is found in milk.

    Infant mammals nurse on their mothers to drink milk, which is rich in lactose. The intestinal villi secrete the enzyme called lactase (β-D-galactosidase) to digest it. This enzyme cleaves the lactose molecule into its two subunits, the simple sugars glucose and galactose, which can be absorbed. Since lactose occurs mostly in milk, in most mammals, the production of lactase gradually decreases with maturity due to a lack of constant consumption.

    Connotation:

    szd30y.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose_transporter

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogenolysis

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis


    View: http://youtu.be/JywK_5bT8z0


    But that's just silly no?

    So what have I just provided in the images here?

    The "hour glass" shape of Orion and "hour glass" shape of Glucose have a similarity. But the connotation is different. One is a pattern in the stars. One is a molecular structure of glucose.

    That's a symbol of visual semiotics.

    More symbols

    25akx20.

    Connotation:
    2wck8r4.

    Door
    25zm6np.

    Connotation:
    2czrrq8.


    So.....Sing it again for those who missed the point.

    "Practice" of the practitioner is what the coherentism and thought form represent in such spell binding. The use of words and symbols.

    Coherentists typically hold that justification is solely a function of some relationship between beliefs. One must justify that relationship when one believe that Magic and it's "practice" have a lasting effect in the use of word spell and intention within it's use. It has a half life and must be generated over and over for a lasting effect.

    For in the oldest spell binding recorded where does the power lie? ....Coffin Texts....


    Connotation:

    "My power is in the horizon"

    ~

    The point rephrased:


    Become the wiser Sage............... and Magician the words (spells) will come easily without a doubt in their application.


    Note: That whole thing was meant for a person I know who delves in the practice and struggles...having nothing whatsoever to do with science but connotation and semiotics.




    More visual semiotics for the scientist:

    Break on down TonyB!






    Which Witch is Which?



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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Nabs

    empty. B.B.Baghor Today at 3:26 pm

    Shiloh Za-Rah and Sirius, with all due respect for your investigation and studies of "deep space" science/symbolism,
    please, could you keep those chat conversations private, between yourselves? I can't find any value in them, nor sensible reason,
    why this is shared here. I'm not in this with you, therefore, it's impossible to understand, see? This conversation concerns your
    own work of study and interest. And it's creating an atmosphere of certain negativity, in my view, for it's a manner of speaking
    over someone's head, without that person involved in the conversation. For whom is it done, for what purpose?



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    For truth is not a thing to me, it's a personal experience. When my truth of today has bided its
    time and I need to step up to a greater truth, that process is proof of the truth always in motion.
    Or... is it me, moving?
     
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