My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

The Xeia 'Test' for Thuban of December 27th - 29th, 2015 in Conversational Contexts

[27-Dec-15 7:39:57 PM] ShilohaPlace: [7:37:04 AM] Kali 666: did i say that?
[7:37:23 AM] Kali 666: he did not just say it once Raven...he said it on multiple occasions
[7:37:41 AM] Sirius 17: and posting or not posting on mists is not some critical thing, it was a decision he would make at times when he was super frustrated with carol and the other posters a
[7:37:58 AM] Sirius 17: so then he would say he was not posting there anymore
[7:38:20 AM] Sirius 17: take a break for a while and changed his mind because he SAW something posted on the mists he felt should be addressed
[27-Dec-15 7:43:35 PM] ShilohaPlace: [7:27:33 PM | Edited 7:36:05 PM] ShilohaPlace: Why oh why do you bother with br and pris?
[7:27:43 PM] ShilohaPlace: They are irrelevant
[7:27:57 PM] Sirius 17: because i am trying to figure out if we have been set up by them
[7:28:00 PM] ShilohaPlace: I saw you transfering thoise post though, thanks
[7:28:12 PM] ShilohaPlace: Nah both are nabsers period
[7:28:20 PM] ShilohaPlace: and smurfs from old PA
[7:28:26 PM] ShilohaPlace: end of interest for me
[7:28:39 PM | Edited 7:28:49 PM] ShilohaPlace: I have not read fiddlers
[7:29:01 PM] Sirius 17: fiddlers?
[7:29:15 PM] ShilohaPlace: rax
[7:29:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: Fiddler's Green no?
[7:29:51 PM] ShilohaPlace: This comment by Carol shows that the forum will go down fast now
[7:29:56 PM] ShilohaPlace: Eyes open, no fear Pris. You're safe. 83084.
[7:30:03 PM] ShilohaPlace: Insanity
[7:30:36 PM] Sirius 17: oh well your in for a surprise when you read Xeia's comments
[7:30:45 PM] Sirius 17: you must of just woke up i guess
[7:30:55 PM] ShilohaPlace: I have started
[7:31:11 PM] ShilohaPlace: And NO no more Moa for anyof us even if they beg us to return
[7:31:35 PM] ShilohaPlace: You will see the Logos in all of thuis once i posted the new timeline chart
[7:33:01 PM] ShilohaPlace: [7:29 AM] Kali 666:
<<< i do
migth be on ABC before he left
but he did say this
right after you suggested perhaps some other Thuban could go in and repost
he immediately refused that ideaThis is bs I meant that the direct exchange over our islam posts is 'our' war not general bannings
[7:34:23 PM] ShilohaPlace: [7:37:04 AM] Kali 666: did i say that?
[7:37:23 AM] Kali 666: he did not just say it once Raven...he said it on multiple occasions
[7:37:41 AM] Sirius 17: and posting or not posting on mists is not some critical thing, it was a decision he would make at times when he was super frustrated with carol and the other posters a
[7:37:58 AM] Sirius 17: so then he would say he was not posting there anymore
[7:38:20 AM] Sirius 17: take a break for a while and changed his mind because he SAW something posted on the mists he felt should be addressed
[7:35:08 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes and the only reason i 'changed my mind' was fror the benefit of readers there not nabsers and as i always said it was for testimony
[7:35:36 PM | Edited 7:35:44 PM] ShilohaPlace: I never expected any feedback or discourse in words from there especially the ingrained memnbers there
[7:36:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is what i tried to get across to her
[7:36:21 PM] ShilohaPlace: You did
[7:36:40 PM] ShilohaPlace: It was always Logos feel that made me share the charts etc there.
[7:37:08 PM | Edited 7:38:02 PM] ShilohaPlace: Dont you think I kno that NOONE there understands much at all of what the charts mean and the posts?
[7:37:23 PM] ShilohaPlace: Of course I know, but it served as a second data depository
[7:37:44 PM] ShilohaPlace: Like most times, xeuia cant get away from her personalisations of everything
[7:38:39 PM] ShilohaPlace: from this personal perspective i got sick to the bone of everything moa say 3 years ago
[7:38:57 PM] ShilohaPlace: So our work there is PURE testimony and nothing at all personal
[7:39:23 PM] ShilohaPlace: but this banning made it personal and ergo now time is up and we can leave under the auspices of the Logos
[7:39:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes why i didn't bother to post anything tonight
[7:40:06 PM] Sirius 17: just copied over what Carol said in that thread for you
[7:40:09 PM] ShilohaPlace: No we dont have to anymore
[7:40:15 PM] ShilohaPlace: They won ok?
[7:40:33 PM] ShilohaPlace: Why I put this code 47=74 onto your last post
[7:40:43 PM] ShilohaPlace: They won in the OW
[7:40:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes its fine
[7:40:53 PM] ShilohaPlace: Che sara!
[7:41:00 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
[7:41:15 PM] ShilohaPlace: Lol human mindedness is soo daft at times
[7:41:38 PM] ShilohaPlace: Forgo your ego obsession and those 'personals' dont matter much at all
[7:42:03 PM] ShilohaPlace: Even old dragon kindred cant get it at times
[7:42:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
[7:42:29 PM] ShilohaPlace: Xeia was such an amazon on Camelot, but quiet as a mouse on Moa over the years
[7:43:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes she lost her nerve or gusto
[27-Dec-15 8:12:46 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:07:01 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:07 AM] Kali 666:
<<< Tony has insulted Carol numerous times, and all the rest of the members of Mists, he has insulted Thubans as well (if he even considers them Thubans at all that is) not only me...we all have been called nasty names at some point or another...Asha, JT, Susan and even Raxnae
and you always have agreed on those comments
so there is really no "high regard"right
[8:07:32 PM] ShilohaPlace: she has bought the islam meme of asha and cant see it
[8:07:37 PM] ShilohaPlace: victimhood see?
[8:07:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: nasty names?
[8:08:19 PM] ShilohaPlace: everything under the sun have i been called by peaceful victimised asha and i hardly battered
[8:08:45 PM] ShilohaPlace: it did not affect me much at all but showed her ignorance and fear
[8:09:40 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:08:37 AM] Sirius 17: yes when your all being stupid and whingy i do agree with him, because you cannot see past your self importance.
[8:08:56 AM] Kali 666: only words said to contradict months...YEARS of saying something
[8:09:07 AM] Kali 666: can you?
[8:09:08 AM] Sirius 17: you are all so concerned now with the personal that you fail to see the message
[8:09:34 AM] Sirius 17: yeah Xeia Tony is so abusive to us all, right
[8:09:40 AM] Kali 666: i am not talking about the message. I am talking about personal relations.
[8:09:46 AM] Sirius 17: what a horrible person he must be
[8:10:50 PM] Sirius 17: well i think she intends to somehow illustrate her point at how evil you have been to them all. I did ask her for specific examples
[8:10:57 PM] Sirius 17: I am sure we will get them
[8:11:04 PM] Sirius 17: out of context likely as well
[8:11:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: well it is an illuminating chat into the state of her mind lol
[8:11:58 PM] ShilohaPlace: do we care what they think?
[8:14:31 AM] Sirius 17: do you even really KNOW who the leader of Thuban is yourself?
[8:14:32 AM] Kali 666: they still believe Thuban is some sort of cult
[8:14:53 AM] Sirius 17: we don't give a fuck about that either lol
[8:12:05 PM] ShilohaPlace: just this for example
[8:12:20 PM] ShilohaPlace: amazing she has not grown at all
[8:12:34 PM] Sirius 17: yeah it surprised me
[27-Dec-15 8:18:29 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:14 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< [8:17 AM] Kali 666:
<<< No no...nothing to figure out
it is out there for all to see
i see what is going on
how things are said and WHY
also on Tony's response to Jonah,
he said the "true Thubans...."Xeia is actually getting it. But my observations simply relate to the energy signatures
And xeia's energy signature is no longer what it was, rok's still is though Rok expected the big physical changes in 2012 and as the changes in the metaphysics did not translate straight away into the physical Rok LOST FAITH period
All understandable, but his basic nature is still Thuban, Xeia's 'Thubanness' has become obscured by her soul remembrance, which is as strong as ever, BUT her human mindedness has become very badly corrupted by the islam memeplex
Jonah's comment showed true thubanness in standing in his intyegrity of calling a spade a spade
Rok is likewise, even in his loss of communal unified purpose he felt before 2012
[27-Dec-15 8:18:49 PM] ShilohaPlace: still reading this chat so my comments will be sporadic
[27-Dec-15 8:21:50 PM] ShilohaPlace: This needs repetition
[27-Dec-15 8:21:55 PM] ShilohaPlace: '[8:30:08 AM] Sirius 17: we know that Xeia and so we have also always said that it is up to the Logos who gets or does not get us. There isn't a damn thing we can do about that. This doesn't mean we feel superior to you or anyone ok, you won't understand how true that is UNTIL you truly understand us. We are on a mission to share data plain and simple, if you don't want to read it then don't. If it offends you then you have lost the message completely and are lost in your own compromised human mind which likes to take EVERYTHING personal, this is what it does best.
[27-Dec-15 8:33:02 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:14:05 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:17 AM] Kali 666:
<<< No no...nothing to figure out
it is out there for all to see
i see what is going on
how things are said and WHY
also on Tony's response to Jonah,
he said the "true Thubans...."Xeia is actually getting it. But my observations simply relate to the energy signatures
[8:15:12 PM | Edited 8:16:40 PM] ShilohaPlace: And xeia's energy signature is no longer what it was, rok's still is though Rok expected the big physical changes in 2012 and as the changes in the metaphysics did not translate straight away into the physical Rok LOST FAITH period
[8:16:10 PM | Edited 8:17:01 PM] ShilohaPlace: All understandable, but his basic nature is still Thuban, Xeia's 'Thubanness' has become obscured by her soul remembrance, which is as strong as ever, BUT her human mindedness has become very badly corrupted by the islam memeplex
[8:17:37 PM] ShilohaPlace: Jonah's comment showed true thubanness in standing in his intyegrity of calling a spade a spade
[8:18:09 PM] ShilohaPlace: Rok is likewise, even in his loss of communal unified purpose he felt before 2012
[8:20:58 PM] Sirius 17: yeah and Mallezky too, he also spoke with honor and integrity , he was a lot nicer about it wading in carefully though as he saw how quickly Carol banned Jonah
[8:22:05 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:30 AM] Sirius 17:
<<< we know that Xeia and so we have also always said that it is up to the Logos who gets or does not get us. There isn't a damn thing we can do about that. This doesn't mean we feel superior to you or anyone ok, you won't understand how true that is UNTIL you truly understand us. We are on a mission to share data plain and simple, if you don't want to read it then don't. If it offends you then you have lost the message completely and are lost in your own compromised human mind which likes to take EVERYTHING personal, this is what it does best.This needs repetition
[8:22:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: Well but he didn't understand that we did 'NOT" derserve to be banned
[8:23:01 PM] Sirius 17: i am not so sure, he was tactically sympathizing with Carol so as to not get banned himself
[8:23:11 PM] Sirius 17: but i saw his defense of us clearly
[8:23:16 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes
[8:23:23 PM] ShilohaPlace: Now he is under fire
[8:23:25 PM] ShilohaPlace: Lol
[8:23:33 PM] ShilohaPlace: Soon Pris will be admin
[8:23:41 PM] ShilohaPlace: perhaps this is what they want
[8:23:42 PM] Sirius 17: oh Carol is on a roll and she has a banning stick
[8:24:11 PM | Edited 8:24:21 PM] ShilohaPlace: moron and ys i just called Carol a name, how evil and inconsiderate i am
[8:24:12 PM] Sirius 17: pretty soon it will be just her and merc
[8:24:36 PM | Edited 8:24:45 PM] Sirius 17: her angel on earth
[8:24:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: well he has gone awol
[8:25:03 PM] ShilohaPlace: And I DONT CARE
[8:25:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes he seems to have dissappeared
[8:25:13 PM] ShilohaPlace: about moa
[8:25:25 PM] ShilohaPlace: They restored the threads but locked them?
[8:25:31 PM | Edited 8:25:38 PM] ShilohaPlace: Did you say that?
[8:25:38 PM] Sirius 17: oh i didn't notice if they are locked
[8:25:44 PM] Sirius 17: but they do seem readable
[8:25:55 PM | Edited 8:28:00 PM] ShilohaPlace: Then LOGOS not us still want the data there Xeia can you get this? Or is this another tactless and ad hominem attack from the 'true ' Thubans on the innocent victims of the mists?
[8:26:14 PM] Sirius 17: i can't sign into to see if it is locked as she banned me ....over and over now
[8:26:23 PM] ShilohaPlace: I and raven DONT CARE if they delete all things Thuban there, AS they did on Camelot
[8:26:33 PM | Edited 8:26:53 PM] ShilohaPlace: It is Logos work NOT ours perid.
[8:27:39 PM] Sirius 17: Re: Contact with Pris
Post Carol on Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:53 pm
I can assure you Maurice, that nothing that you have shared with Pris here is "new" information to the majority of us.. If you spend some time researching some of the earlier threads posted you may discover that. Nor do I doubt any of the well "seasoned" members here view any of what you have to share as a threat. As for banning you... please don't make laugh and spew coffee onto my keyboard.
In addition, we have a number of contactees as members of the forum who also have shared info about their experiences in a variety of threads on the forum. It's a pleasure for us when various new members feel comfortable enough to share about themselves and their various "alien" and/or "contactee" experiences.
In addition, given the number of OBE and NDE I've had since quite young, including the most recent one on Oct 3rd in the ER room, all I have to say is that there is always something new to learn when they occur. Death is easy. It's living that's the real challenge.
Please feel free to continue your exchange with Pris without worry. Enlightened
Namaste
[8:27:45 PM] Sirius 17: look at this crap lol
[8:28:01 PM | Edited 8:28:56 PM] Sirius 17: Carol's hypocrisy illustrated again
[8:28:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: she is such an attuned nabser
[8:28:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: again i attacked Carol's integrity and honour see this raven?
[8:29:07 PM] Sirius 17: right
[8:29:19 PM] Sirius 17: you are such an asshole Tony
[8:29:25 PM] Sirius 17: why are you so mean?
[8:29:28 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[8:30:07 PM] Sirius 17: wait, i shouldn't laugh, this is serious |
[8:30:52 PM | Edited 8:30:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: I am an inconsiderate bastard who tramples on humans feelings
[8:31:18 PM] Sirius 17: oh wait i can see there seem to be two locked threads , sorry i hadn't noticed this before
[8:31:19 PM] ShilohaPlace: tactless and demonic and a wanna be guru for a thuiban dragon sexcult
[8:31:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes you pervert
[8:31:56 PM] Sirius 17: omg i must be a pervert too then
[27-Dec-15 8:33:57 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:33:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes it looks like the factuals and legacy are locked
[8:33:34 PM] ShilohaPlace: facts and Testimony fitting
Sirius 17
[27-Dec-15 8:44:03 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:37:01 PM] Sirius 17: The Factuals versus the Old Age BS or OABS 12... 45 oh this one she left open
[8:37:09 PM] Sirius 17: the other one she locked
[8:38:45 PM] Sirius 17: James was up all night talking to his sister on fb who was visiting the pregnant daughter who is now married to this Muslim from Saudi Arabia we found out now
[8:39:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: Talk about PERSONAL ATTACK?
[8:39:12 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:54 AM] Kali 666:
<<< [8:53 AM] Sirius 17:
<<< if you forget that one you will have zero hope of ever understandingSTOP
why say things like this?
who do you think you are?
can't you see yourself?
hear yourself?
read yourself?
have you ever wondered WHY you have the disease you have?
[8:39:27 PM] Sirius 17: the daughter made her mother go hide in the bedroom because she was ashamed of her and didn't want the mother to embarrass her in front of the family
[8:39:56 PM] ShilohaPlace: So your evil heart caused you to have a disease
[8:40:04 PM] Sirius 17: [8:39 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< have you ever wondered WHY you have the disease you have?oh i missed this one
[8:40:14 PM] ShilohaPlace: My disability too must be caused by demonic possessions
[8:40:18 PM] Sirius 17: nice Xeia, thanks
[8:40:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: This is something we both would never accuse anyone of
[8:41:17 PM] ShilohaPlace: I made a peropheral mention about Celine's breastcancer once but simply said it might be related to karma and then susan got mightily upset about his
[8:41:49 PM] ShilohaPlace: Xeia directly and emphatically questioned your personal health as having to be caused by your thoughts etc
[8:42:06 PM | Edited 8:42:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: I never siad such a thing and never would, because is 'judgemental'
[8:42:30 PM] Sirius 17: must be karma
[8:43:14 PM] ShilohaPlace: telling somepne he is travelling into a wrong direction relative to some postion is not the same as judging the person to be wrong in travelling and wanting to go to this destination
[8:43:33 PM] ShilohaPlace: Observation is not judgement
Sirius 17
[27-Dec-15 8:56:57 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:45:42 PM] ShilohaPlace: [8:57:42 AM] Kali 666: it is a STANCE
[8:57:56 AM] Kali 666: reconsider your place Raven
[8:58:07 AM] Kali 666: and try to have your OWN words
[8:58:12 AM] Kali 666: and not repeat Tony's
[8:58:31 AM] Kali 666: This is Tony speaking
[8:59:25 AM | Edited 8:59:45 AM] Kali 666: [8:53 AM] Sirius 17:
<<< if you forget that one you will have zero hope of ever understandingthis is Tony's judgment
[9:00:01 AM] Kali 666: you simply repeat...repeat...repeat
[9:00:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes i have been told i am a parrot
[9:00:33 AM] Sirius 17: before
[8:45:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: lol - who are the true Thubans indeed?
[8:51:04 PM] ShilohaPlace: [11:50:01 AM] Sirius 17: do the Christians being persicuted in Iraq worry about someone calling them bitches? Fuck no, they don't have time for that shit, they are fleeing for their lives. Consider it a luxury if you have time to get offended over anything these days and are not running for your very life to avoid someone chopping your head off.
[8:51:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes this must be islamophobia however the fear of some nonexi8xtent threat
[8:51:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: So Tony joins a farextremist anti islamophobia political group
[8:52:33 PM] ShilohaPlace: To anti islamophobic then means one is anti the nonexistent fear
[8:52:51 PM] ShilohaPlace: A double negative
[8:53:35 PM] ShilohaPlace: the islamic fear becomes justified as a threat to the entire world
[8:54:44 PM] ShilohaPlace: But then fearful, intelligentsia morons like asha represent the phobias in the mirror of the Logos truth
[8:55:11 PM | Edited 8:56:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: Have your own telephone line to YOUR Logos Xeia and follow its path.
[8:55:43 PM | Edited 8:56:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: Your future will show you whereto you have travelled and what you have become in your cosmic forgetfulnesses
Sirius 17
[27-Dec-15 9:00:03 PM] ShilohaPlace: [12:06:17 PM] Sirius 17: it is not personal and never was
[12:06:48 PM] Sirius 17: but if anyone takes it personal as in the human pitiful way then they won't be able to see the impersonal
[12:07:08 PM] raxnae: distinction between an ET mind and a Human mind
[27-Dec-15 9:00:11 PM] ShilohaPlace: Isn't THAT the truth lol
[27-Dec-15 9:28:07 PM] ShilohaPlace: [9:27:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: 57=BIRTH=MOON and 58=STAR=FATHER=SCIENCE. May your great nexus date of December 16th, 2013 become made manifest on December 15th, 2015 to allow your dreams to come true sweety. With a halfway mirror of the December solstice of december 21st and the translation of your biophysical mother into a universal cosmic mother.
[27-Dec-15 9:31:23 PM] Sirius 17: Happy Birthday Susan!
[27-Dec-15 9:32:30 PM] Sirius 17: i tried to post you a poem onto one of your threads as Snowflake but Carol deleted it
[27-Dec-15 9:33:06 PM | Edited 9:33:40 PM] ShilohaPlace: You may have noticed Juju; i dont wish anyone a happy..merry.. or joyful... anything anymore, because a true Thuban actually FEELS the enormous sufferings in the world in a sort of universal empathy. It is NOT a happy, merry or joyful place at the present time.
[27-Dec-15 9:33:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
[27-Dec-15 9:33:31 PM] Sirius 17:
Song of Solomon 2King James Version (KJV)
2 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.
2 As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.
3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.
4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.
5 Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.
6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.
7 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.
8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.
9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.
10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.
11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;
12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;
13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.
14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.
15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.
16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies.
17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether.
[27-Dec-15 9:33:49 PM] Sirius 17: Here Susan, from me to you. This is what i posted for you on the mists
[27-Dec-15 9:33:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: Its on this thread Susan
[27-Dec-15 9:34:17 PM] ShilohaPlace: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/ind...a-thuban-bashing-thread.1436/page-3#post-7693
[27-Dec-15 9:34:44 PM] Sirius 17: i wish everyone happiness of whatever kind they can find in this world Tony, this doesn't mean i have no empathy for those who are suffering
[27-Dec-15 9:35:02 PM] Sirius 17: but i respect your decision not to
[27-Dec-15 9:39:22 PM | Edited 9:40:02 PM] ShilohaPlace: Thank you this i is pedanticism too but I wanted to say this so people do not become offended towards my insensitivities
[28-Dec-15 12:13:08 AM | Edited 12:45:14 AM] Hades 88: [Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:19 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< Xeia's 'Thubanness' has become obscured by her soul remembrance, which is as strong as ever, BUT her human mindedness has become very badly corrupted by the islam memeplex
what xeia dislikes is what is being done in this quotation. she does not approve of you (or anyone else for that matter) to appoint who is the "real deal" (or who "gets it") and who is not and by what standards. she also dislikes the "recent change" with "war on islam" as in...if one "member of thuban" wants to go and be at war, why should that make any other, who does not, less of a thuban or not a thuban...etc she is not trying to defend islam, the problem is that this here is not an army and there should be no orders to follow to be a "proper member".
she also dislikes being labeled in any manner due to whatever reason or being rejected and shunned due to having a different mindset. perception of one does not equal that of the other. it is rarely the case this can happen.

[Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:19 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< Rok expected the big physical changes in 2012 and as the changes in the metaphysics did not translate straight away into the physical Rok LOST FAITH period
[Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:19 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< Rok is likewise, even in his loss of communal unified purpose he felt before 2012
me, it is not so much about what did or did not happen in 2012, while there were certain "hopes" (if it can even be called like that) i was always very much a realist, the "tangible guy". i used to, at times, put more of my attention to "personal things" which touched me directly, but have since mostly stopped with that. thuban this, thuban that, that forum, other forum, that comment, ban, this moderator, that chat, some statement...whatever really. most might see this as being numb but i see it as not giving a fuck about petty little things. "small irritations, big issues" might be a good title for a wide audience article but in my case it all goes to the recycle bin. the online/virtual stuff that is. most of the skype group chat exchanges fall unto that. some more physical issues can not be as easily ignored, since they seek you out even if you do, but aside from that, it is pointless to try to change anything outside of yourself without a proper leverage...so just let it be, let them be.
the forum posts, skype chats, agendas, charts....it is all so very much mundane...some can be interesting to read, but just to read, since it has become more than obvious by now that it is not the way or solution to anything.
[28-Dec-15 2:51:01 AM] ShilohaPlace: ISIS's First Step: Conquer Rome, Defeat Christianity
10-06-2015
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ROME -- The Islamic State has a plan to conquer Rome. Yes, it might sound crazy, but ISIS believes the conquest of Rome is central to its mission.
They believe it is necessary to fulfill what Islam teaches was the prophecy of Muhammed and to prepare the return of the Muslim messiah: the Mahdi.
romecoliseum_si.
"ISIS thinks that Rome is one of its primary goals and is in its timetable," Robert Spencer, author of The Complete Infidel's Guide to ISIS, said.
"It has a timetable where in the 10 years, by the year 2025, it hopes to bring about Armageddon, the final struggle between good and evil or between the Muslims and the non-Muslims," he explained. "And that one of the chief stepping stones to that Armageddon battle is the conquest of Rome, which they think they're going to be able to do with the next five years, by 2020."
Two Cities, One Mission
Muslim scholars say Muhammed prophesied that the two great Roman cities would be conquered: Constantinople and Rome. Constantinople is now Istanbul, a Muslim city.
Rome remains to be conquered.
"Once Rome is conquered, in this view, within the next five years, then Israel will follow shortly after. They also believe that during this time period they're also going to conquer Saudi Arabia and Iran," Spencer said.
Now, before you laugh, consider that phase one of the Islamic State's plan to take Rome may already be underway: flooding Europe with ISIS fighters under the cover of the current refugee crisis.
"They're not talking about doing it by conventional armies; they're talking about doing (it) by overwhelming these lands with sympathizers from within, and in influx of people from outside," Spencer said.
"And that's something we see happening right now in Europe. And so it's not that far outside of the realm of possibility that they could at least make these attempts," he continued.
The Islamic State reveals part of its plan in its publication "Black Flags From Rome." It will use sleeper cells and expects to get help from Muslims serving in European armies and from non-Muslim sympathizers.
It also wants to fire missiles into Italy that it has captured on the battlefield.
Islamic Armageddon
This is a threat that is hard for Italian and foreign policy expert Emaneule Ottolenghi to be concerned about. He said Europe has more pressing problems because of ISIS.
"The concern should be commensurate to the reality of the threat," he said. "The Islamic threat does not pose that kind of threat today. My main concern is with the lone wolf terrorist who plots a terror outrage against a school, against a supermarket, against a shopping mall, against an airport."
And it certainly is hard to see how ISIS could conquer Rome, a city of 3 million people in a nation of 60 million people. But it is not hard to see ISIS attempting it.
The conquest of Rome has been a primary goal since the beginning of the Islamic State.
"They think that the conquest of Rome will be the complete sign of Islam's superiority over Christianity and defeat of Christianity," Spencer said.
They also see the fall of Rome on an eschatological timeline that will culminate in a battle against the infidel armies near Dabiq, Syria; their version of Armageddon, according to Spencer.
"And they think that once this battle takes place at Dabiq, this final battle which they see coming 10 years from now 2025, then the Muslims will battle the non-Muslims in this town in northern Syria," Spencer said.
"And then Jesus, the Muslim prophet, and Mahdi will return to the Earth, and they will together conquer and Islamize the world," he said.
Celebration by Killing
If their plan for Rome succeeds, ISIS says it will throw homosexuals from the top of the leaning tower of Pisa.
But the main event, as they see it, will be the beheading of the Pope in St. Peter's Square, broadcast and live-streamed to a horrified international audience.
Spencer said a member of ISIS recently said "'Once we take Rome we are going to carry out mass beheadings in St. Peter's Square."
"And so this is the plan, to convert St Peter's Square into a huge site of executions to people judged to be enemies of Allah, chief among them the Pope, in order to cow and frighten the rest of the world into submitting to their rule," Spencer said.
It's a plan that, for now, has little chance of success.
But in his new book, The ISIS Apocalypse, author and expert William McCants says ISIS has recently taken a longer term view of the conquest of Rome and the return of the Mahdi, and is willing to wait in order to build up its forces.
ISIS is now next door to Italy in North Africa. More importantly, Islamic State fighters are reportedly already inside Italy, some posing as refugees, going about their lives, waiting for the day when the battle for Rome begins.
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2015/October/ISISs-First-Step-Conquering-Rome-Defeat-Christianity/
[28-Dec-15 2:52:17 AM] ShilohaPlace: My present timeline zoom points to 2020 as culmination of a timeline ending in 2018, 70 years after the creation of modern israel
[28-Dec-15 2:53:08 AM] ShilohaPlace: I cant see 2025 as having any significance in Universal Logos terms
[28-Dec-15 3:09:52 AM] ShilohaPlace:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGbSs2hGI6w

[28-Dec-15 7:13:49 AM] Sirius 17: Post Pris Today at 12:01 am
Eartheart wrote:
Autsch, what an experimental trap for pixi-energy in a mirrorcabinet of a good tarned prism to see the true reflection of those orion stuges (ooopps
to the ironic namecalling- but exquse ma-dame - this is allready higher avalon mistizism 4me...
Lawless The tolerant treshold of this cern-loop repeats again - dad sad
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No holy in those books of old and mindfool applied propaganda -
even Dr. Oxy's repetition point just to the much directer sources... Hadriel
$4 mindframes and content Harp

Would you kindly rephrase this in a way that's easier to... comprehend? I do not wish to assume who this... pixi-energy is. Very Happy
[11:58:16 AM] Allisiam: so we are orion stuges now
[11:58:18 AM] Allisiam: nice
[11:59:06 AM] Allisiam: EH is now coming out of the woodwork i guess
[11:59:18 AM] Allisiam: have not seen many posts from him in a long time
[12:02:26 PM] Allisiam: not sure if he is referring to us or what the hell
[12:03:17 PM] Allisiam: at least with Dan Winter you could obtusely follow his woo woo talk, EH takes it to a whole other level
[12:09:38 PM] Allisiam: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t85...-the-goodness-of-one-woman-means-that-he-does
[12:09:51 PM] Allisiam: they are getting high on all that Angel smoke Tony
[12:10:52 PM] Allisiam: maybe we have it all wrong and we should just check out of reality like they have, i want what they are smoking
[12:11:30 PM] Allisiam: must be nice to just be able to ignore everyone and everything going on around you
[12:11:48 PM] Allisiam: how planetary and global minded of them
[12:12:25 PM] Allisiam: oh wait, there are people who are getting beheaded and killed? llalalalalalalalala i can't hear you
[12:12:59 PM] Allisiam: people starving to death...oh we'll just send em love and light
[12:13:14 PM] Allisiam: they can eat all our happiness right up
[28-Dec-15 7:15:08 AM] Sirius 17: apathy is deadly
[28-Dec-15 7:15:19 AM] Sirius 17: but ignorance is worse
[28-Dec-15 7:15:55 AM] Sirius 17: Carol

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Re: Do you believe in angels? I do: DR MAX PEMBERTON explains why a homeless man and the goodness of one woman means that he does
Post Carol Today at 10:23 am
Eartheart, what an insightful way to describe what's happening throughout the multi-dimensional universe. Each day, each of us (husband and myself) pray to the saints and angels to download their healing energies into all living beings, creatures and entities throughout multi-dimensions, while continuing to embrace the planet with their healing energies. I suspect many others are called from within to pray and direct that same energy as well.

"The enochian alphabet projection knowhow to use the own
unityportal to fold and braid lightrays/thoughtforms so as
to charge/load the holo with all your parts and bodies up,
wholehearthedly (bodymindsoul) plus plasmabody plus a
remembrance of your dreambodies plus your angel and a
natural flower of life remedy stabilisa-thor will hold it 4U..."

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[28-Dec-15 7:17:16 AM] raxnae: love and light, stupid it is
[28-Dec-15 7:17:47 AM] Sirius 17: it is disgusting given what is going on in the world
[28-Dec-15 7:18:19 AM] Sirius 17: if they want to spread love and light go fuck your neighbor like seriously
[28-Dec-15 7:18:25 AM] Sirius 17: fuck his or her brains out
[28-Dec-15 7:18:46 AM] raxnae: methinks they lack a brain, this I do
[28-Dec-15 7:19:34 AM] Sirius 17: hang on rax i am going to go meditate on world peace, i'll let you know when that has ever worked
[28-Dec-15 7:19:44 AM] raxnae: lol
[28-Dec-15 7:20:20 AM] Sirius 17: i wish i had another account now so i could get banned all over again lol
[28-Dec-15 7:20:47 AM] Sirius 17: i think i will make one tonight specifically for this Angel smoke post
[28-Dec-15 7:20:51 AM] raxnae: honestly wash your hands of this you must, clear thoughts from pointless diatribes
[28-Dec-15 7:21:04 AM] Sirius 17: naw
[28-Dec-15 7:21:31 AM] Sirius 17: Xeia thinks it would be good for them to hear what we think of them and so i am gonna give it to them
[28-Dec-15 7:21:38 AM] Sirius 17: doggy style
[28-Dec-15 7:21:57 AM] Sirius 17: and i do hope i offend the fuck out of them, literally
[28-Dec-15 7:22:52 AM] raxnae: yes give in to the hatred, swing your lightsaber at Carol and your journey into the dark side will be complete muwahahaha lol
[28-Dec-15 7:23:21 AM] Sirius 17: it is not hate to point out someones grevious erroneous logic rax
[28-Dec-15 7:23:33 AM | Edited 7:23:54 AM] Sirius 17: it is called rationality and reality in other terms
[28-Dec-15 7:23:35 AM] raxnae: I'm making a joke lol
[28-Dec-15 7:23:38 AM] Sirius 17: oh
[28-Dec-15 7:23:43 AM] Sirius 17: they need a big dose of it
[28-Dec-15 7:24:26 AM] raxnae: but bringing rationality to the inheriently irrational is a pointless endeavour all they will do is lalalalallalalalalala
[28-Dec-15 7:24:37 AM | Edited 7:25:06 AM] Sirius 17: sorry, i fail to find anything humorous about their ignorance
[28-Dec-15 7:25:13 AM] Sirius 17: there worded best
[28-Dec-15 7:25:24 AM] raxnae: then they will pity you and wish you love and light and have to apologize for the incoming ban lol
[28-Dec-15 7:26:39 AM] raxnae: they ride on high horses that are really about the size of ants but in their imaginations they ride in high altitude with lack of air causing health concerns lol
[28-Dec-15 7:27:22 AM] Sirius 17: yes but at this point much of the western world is just like them and seemingly can tune reality out at will
[28-Dec-15 7:27:39 AM] raxnae: sad but true
[28-Dec-15 7:27:49 AM] Sirius 17: meanwhile in the middle east the body count continues to pile up
[28-Dec-15 7:27:56 AM] Sirius 17: but lets not think about that
[28-Dec-15 7:28:07 AM] Sirius 17: or why that might be happening
[28-Dec-15 7:28:50 AM] Sirius 17: and it is happening for much the same reasons, people completely out of touch with reality over there too and their precious Quoran
[28-Dec-15 7:29:28 AM] Sirius 17: you know they believe very strongly in angels in the Quoran
[28-Dec-15 7:29:30 AM] raxnae: the caliphate is now embodied in surtur's flames, encompassing the whole world all we can do is go out like frej ramming out horns deep into his eye and dying with a tired smile
[28-Dec-15 7:29:34 AM] Sirius 17: they call them Jinn
[28-Dec-15 7:29:43 AM] Sirius 17: we call them demonic
[28-Dec-15 7:30:08 AM] Sirius 17: they are literally playing with hellfire
[28-Dec-15 7:30:24 AM] Sirius 17: their own corrupted and fucked up thinking has created this monster called Islam
[28-Dec-15 7:30:31 AM] Sirius 17: oh and it is real
[28-Dec-15 7:30:31 AM] raxnae: yes its interesting how some pagan arab elements survive in modern islam like the jinn
[28-Dec-15 7:31:15 AM] Sirius 17: the devil has literally come down to 'Georgia'
[28-Dec-15 7:31:31 AM] raxnae: oh i know it haha
[28-Dec-15 7:31:49 AM] Sirius 17: yes you would lol
[28-Dec-15 7:31:57 AM] Sirius 17: bad boy
[28-Dec-15 7:33:14 AM] raxnae: I am very bad, I offered god and the devil my soul for their hearts lol
[28-Dec-15 7:33:37 AM] raxnae: they still have yet to take me up on that offer
[28-Dec-15 7:34:19 AM] Sirius 17: the heart of the Logos is offered freely everyday rax and many choose to ignore it, too much love and light blinding them
[28-Dec-15 7:34:52 AM] raxnae: sad but true
[28-Dec-15 7:35:22 AM] Sirius 17: well fuck, you know if the world could really see itself clearly at this moment in time it would radically change things
[28-Dec-15 7:35:45 AM] Sirius 17: and so the Logos will give it the mirror
[28-Dec-15 7:36:08 AM] raxnae: eventually all will have to face the mirror whether in life or in death
[28-Dec-15 7:36:34 AM] Sirius 17: yes
[28-Dec-15 7:37:26 AM] raxnae: but let them ignore it as long as they can lalalalala, it will bite them in the ass eventually when surtur comes with burning sword to chop off their heads
[28-Dec-15 7:39:18 AM] Sirius 17:
Matthew 25King James Version (KJV)
25 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.
16 Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents.
17 And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two.
18 But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
19 After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.
20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.
21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
22 He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.
23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
[28-Dec-15 7:39:46 AM] Sirius 17: OLIVIA=68=LOGOS=VIA OIL
[28-Dec-15 7:40:22 AM] Sirius 17: the real Olivia dd never got
[28-Dec-15 7:40:27 AM] Sirius 17: Logos
[28-Dec-15 7:40:52 AM] Sirius 17: she also asked for her to be banned from the Mists
[28-Dec-15 7:41:13 AM] Sirius 17: go ahead Carol, ban the Logos from your forum
[28-Dec-15 7:42:28 AM] raxnae: it is as Tony said, a time to decline
[28-Dec-15 8:06:48 AM] Sirius 17: see rax, it is like this, if the world gave a big enough outcry at the outragousness of the slaughter, starvation and lack of care for it's fellow beings the world could be just as Lennon sang in his song Imagine. The problem is very few really know themselves. If they knew what they really were, they would all be so ashamed right now of their behavior they would literally go try to hide under rocks. All this violence and bloodshed and killing would end instantly, done over, in the blink of an eye.
[28-Dec-15 8:07:26 AM] Sirius 17: and when this Timeline runs its course that is what will happen
[28-Dec-15 8:07:29 AM] Sirius 17: they will KNOW
[28-Dec-15 8:08:31 AM] raxnae: let us hope so heh
[28-Dec-15 8:08:55 AM] Sirius 17: love hopes all things
[28-Dec-15 8:09:15 AM] Sirius 17: and not some anemic pathetic human love but the real deal
[28-Dec-15 8:09:50 AM] raxnae: yeah I can't seem to break those I care about free from the so called human love issue lol
[28-Dec-15 8:10:22 AM] Sirius 17: because they still don't know themselves either rax
[28-Dec-15 8:10:44 AM] Sirius 17: (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
[28-Dec-15 8:11:13 AM] Sirius 17: this is not human egotistical crap either
[28-Dec-15 8:11:37 AM] Sirius 17: it is a very heavy burden to know and watch as most of the world doesn't
[28-Dec-15 8:11:51 AM] Sirius 17: sweating blood, this kind of thing
[28-Dec-15 8:12:07 AM] raxnae: yes I bare that burden with pride that I am not blinded
[28-Dec-15 8:12:31 AM] Sirius 17: there is this word in this passage at the end that everyone ignores
[28-Dec-15 8:13:33 AM] raxnae: oh yeah I was going to ask you, what was your interpretation of the hotel california song
[28-Dec-15 8:13:56 AM] Sirius 17: ALL=25=Y
[28-Dec-15 8:14:02 AM] Sirius 17: 25=7
[28-Dec-15 8:14:13 AM] Sirius 17: (7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
[28-Dec-15 8:14:57 AM] Sirius 17: I told you
[28-Dec-15 8:15:03 AM] Sirius 17: the nightman has the keys
[28-Dec-15 8:15:11 AM] raxnae: ooooooh right lol
[28-Dec-15 8:15:52 AM] raxnae: it slipped my mind today for some reason lol
[28-Dec-15 8:18:02 AM] raxnae: I want to protect my family, but I also want them to know the truth of the Logos and Anti-Logos but I don't know how to show them
[28-Dec-15 8:18:26 AM] raxnae: they still worship a dead man nailed to a cross
[28-Dec-15 8:18:36 AM] Sirius 17: NIGHTMAN=NIGHT=58=STAR=FATHER MAN=28=LAMB
[28-Dec-15 8:19:27 AM] Sirius 17: well you can only give them data rax
[28-Dec-15 8:19:57 AM] Sirius 17: show them the Thuban library and let them seek
[28-Dec-15 8:19:59 AM] raxnae: they fear any data concerned with the devil mind as mentioned before with them wanting me to take down my poem lol
[28-Dec-15 8:20:17 AM] Sirius 17: yes they fear Islam
[28-Dec-15 8:20:26 AM] Sirius 17: it is actually a healthy fear
[28-Dec-15 8:20:53 AM] Sirius 17: but your poem is one of thousands on the internet pointing out the truth about islam
[28-Dec-15 8:21:07 AM] Sirius 17: maybe you can google others works and show them they are not dead from it
[28-Dec-15 8:22:22 AM] raxnae: well I was thinking the other day when you were arguing with your aunt, when she mentioned thomas jefferson's quran you should have linked the islamaphobes quotation page Tony made that has a quote by Thomas Jefferson against Islam lol
[28-Dec-15 8:22:26 AM] Sirius 17: but the reality is at least in the west very few have been killed for their views
[28-Dec-15 8:22:38 AM] Sirius 17: different story in the middle east of course
[28-Dec-15 8:22:56 AM] Sirius 17: oh i missed that one
[28-Dec-15 8:23:18 AM] Sirius 17: but yeah its like knocking on wood
[28-Dec-15 8:23:28 AM] Sirius 17: dull sound
[28-Dec-15 8:23:30 AM] raxnae: haha yup
[28-Dec-15 8:24:31 AM] Sirius 17: the Logos will protect them as well
[28-Dec-15 8:25:14 AM] Sirius 17: especially if their eyes can be opened and informed
[28-Dec-15 8:25:32 AM] raxnae: its to the point that the Logos has to show a very large very precise mirror to open the eyes of the west
[28-Dec-15 8:26:05 AM] Brook Schiner: Hay guys! Is the Logos going to protect me from all the puke love and light I've been seeing coddled at MOA? I do sincerely hope so....LOL How are you doing?
[28-Dec-15 8:26:22 AM] Sirius 17: lol hardly Brook
[28-Dec-15 8:26:38 AM] Brook Schiner: btw...been following this discussion and it's quite interesting
[28-Dec-15 8:26:44 AM] Sirius 17: doing ok here, hope your christmas went good
[28-Dec-15 8:26:56 AM] raxnae: I'm doin alright just hold a mirror to the love and light til they blind themselves lol
[28-Dec-15 8:27:02 AM] Brook Schiner: It was too quiet....I missed having my kids with me
[28-Dec-15 8:27:09 AM] Sirius 17: awww i bet
[28-Dec-15 8:27:44 AM] Brook Schiner: Braydon has a new girlfriend...and it's looking pretty serious
[28-Dec-15 8:27:51 AM] raxnae: or force shock them like Emperor Palpatine lol
[28-Dec-15 8:27:57 AM] Brook Schiner: lol
[28-Dec-15 8:28:04 AM] raxnae: show them the power of the dark side
[28-Dec-15 8:28:53 AM] Brook Schiner: I wanted to puke when I saw carol protecting Pris today. I was going to go out with a bang....but I'm not even sure it's worth the time frankly
[28-Dec-15 8:29:02 AM] Sirius 17: i can't imagine losing any one of my children, it is hard to find the words Brook, but I know it is a deep deep loss, both you and Tony ....no one should have to lose a child.
[28-Dec-15 8:29:19 AM | Edited 8:29:28 AM] Brook Schiner: agreed...it's the worst
[28-Dec-15 8:29:57 AM] raxnae: I agree wash your hands of them
[28-Dec-15 8:30:09 AM] raxnae: moabytes arent worth the trouble
[28-Dec-15 8:30:11 AM] Sirius 17: yes it is a full on party over there with all the common sense chucked out now, they can spread the luv n light fest like no tomorrow
[28-Dec-15 8:30:24 AM] Brook Schiner: yep...I can't stand the ass kissing
[28-Dec-15 8:30:48 AM] Sirius 17: well just say the B word and your gone
[28-Dec-15 8:30:50 AM] Sirius 17: lol
[28-Dec-15 8:30:56 AM] Brook Schiner: lol
[28-Dec-15 8:31:15 AM] Sirius 17: Jonah didn't know what hit him it was so swift
[28-Dec-15 8:31:41 AM] Brook Schiner: I;m sure....she did the same to Lionhawk..and called Lionhawk TOXIC!
[28-Dec-15 8:31:57 AM] Sirius 17: Carol is like a Jedi warrior with her light saber saving the universe from the evil darkness of Thuban
[28-Dec-15 8:32:14 AM] Sirius 17: same thing yes
[28-Dec-15 8:32:18 AM] Brook Schiner: Well...you guys are the worst! lol
[28-Dec-15 8:32:27 AM | Edited 8:32:35 AM] Sirius 17: yes we are bitches, we know lol
[28-Dec-15 8:32:35 AM] Brook Schiner: Life's a bitch
[28-Dec-15 8:32:40 AM] Sirius 17: indeed
[28-Dec-15 8:32:47 AM] Brook Schiner: they better get over it
[28-Dec-15 8:32:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes
[28-Dec-15 8:33:00 AM] Sirius 17: time to wake up world
[28-Dec-15 8:33:10 AM] Sirius 17: reality check coming to a neighborhood near you soon
[28-Dec-15 8:33:22 AM] Sirius 17: just look at what is happening in Europe
[28-Dec-15 8:33:24 AM] Brook Schiner: gathering it awareness....right!?!?!?
[28-Dec-15 8:33:35 AM] Sirius 17: yes pathetic
[28-Dec-15 8:33:52 AM] Sirius 17: gathering in opinions censoring the truth it should read
[28-Dec-15 8:34:22 AM] Brook Schiner: Yep...it's coming....I see it and I wanted to show you and Tony something that John was working on just before he died....it goes with what you posted to get banned
[28-Dec-15 8:34:41 AM] Sirius 17: well share it here if you like
[28-Dec-15 8:35:05 AM] Sirius 17: if you are not comfortable with that then I can open a chat with Tony and I
[28-Dec-15 8:35:14 AM] Brook Schiner: Okay...but it's going to get ... well....just watch...
[28-Dec-15 8:37:13 AM] Brook Schiner: They just released this Movie in august....John is close friends with the producer/director/writer of this film. In fact Giovanni was the first friend of John;s I called when he died. I didn't want Giovanni to hear any other way than from me. His phone number has been in my phone for eons...check out the trailer...first..there's a whole lot more to this to be sure...so hold on
[28-Dec-15 8:38:37 AM] Brook Schiner: Here's the trailer...
[28-Dec-15 8:38:41 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNFh9zCxrIM

[28-Dec-15 8:40:37 AM] Brook Schiner: Here is the main actor in that film....in 2007
[28-Dec-15 8:40:51 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://youtu.be/gS6JZ04u3Y8

[28-Dec-15 8:41:42 AM] Brook Schiner: So...in that post you did there was something numbered as to what to look for...do you remember it?
[28-Dec-15 8:42:29 AM] Sirius 17: omg Brook
[28-Dec-15 8:42:37 AM] Sirius 17: John was working on this film?
[28-Dec-15 8:42:44 AM] Brook Schiner: Yes....
[28-Dec-15 8:42:59 AM] Sirius 17: i am speechless
[28-Dec-15 8:43:10 AM] Brook Schiner: Now John and Giovanni had a rather heated exchange before he died....
[28-Dec-15 8:43:46 AM] Brook Schiner: John told me that Giovanni was all twisted up....about 9/11...and this is the inspiration to this movie he wrote and directed
[28-Dec-15 8:44:46 AM] Brook Schiner: Now in the trailer....you'll notice..Harry lennix....Harry lennix gave eulogy at John's funeral....
[28-Dec-15 8:45:05 AM] Brook Schiner: In that movie....here is a photo of harry lennix and I about flipped my wig
[28-Dec-15 8:46:42 AM] Brook Schiner: This photo is unavailable
[28-Dec-15 8:46:42 AM] Sirius 17: [Monday, December 28, 2015 8:42 AM] Brook Schiner:
<<< So...in that post you did there was something numbered as to what to look for...do you remember it?no you will have to refresh my memory here
[28-Dec-15 8:46:58 AM] Brook Schiner: Okay I will...,hold on....
[28-Dec-15 8:47:36 AM] Brook Schiner: enlarge that photo....look at the hospital gown...that is the same gown I got John back from the coroners off in...it's filled with pyramids!
[28-Dec-15 8:47:39 AM] Sirius 17: yes ok the same hospitial gown John was in
[28-Dec-15 8:47:50 AM] Brook Schiner: yes...there's more...
[28-Dec-15 8:48:02 AM] Brook Schiner: So...
[28-Dec-15 8:48:04 AM] Sirius 17: yes i had a vision about John while i was in the hosptial in this gown as well
[28-Dec-15 8:48:46 AM | Edited 8:49:03 AM] Brook Schiner: here I am seeing this and wondering how in the hell that happens? That photo of Harry in that gown is from the movie the Algerian
[28-Dec-15 8:49:43 AM] Brook Schiner: Now john is more like me....on the 9/11 thing. Giovanni was all gungho over it according to John.
[28-Dec-15 8:50:10 AM] Brook Schiner: As I'm sure you can tell from the trailer right?
[28-Dec-15 8:50:46 AM] Sirius 17: not sure if you are aware but first part of 2014 i was hosptialized and put into a psychiatric ward here for 3 weeks. It was brought on by a huge Logos download where i temporarily lost my frame of reference and i think i was like in the land of the dead and living at the same time. I had visions of you helping me through various people. I may of talked about this some in some of our chats we shared on the forums.
[28-Dec-15 8:51:39 AM] Sirius 17: but yes it is strange, wonder if Giovanni knew, when did this film come out?
[28-Dec-15 8:53:11 AM] Sirius 17: but in my visions i saw John in this same hosptial gown which i may of seen it before on your fb posts or in mists, not sure, but i felt him there. many of my visions were pyramid related
[28-Dec-15 8:53:31 AM] Brook Schiner: Now....I've known Giovanni for quite some time. Like I said his phone number is in IPhone....still! I remember about a year before I left California....Giovanni was in Cuba...he took some great photos of a tobacco cigar factory and made a calendar which I have somewhere around this house because the photos were quite nice.....Now check this out.....and on your above statement ....No I did not know that..But you know I'd be there in a heartbeat for you if I did know....
[28-Dec-15 8:53:57 AM] Sirius 17: you were there, in logos fashon lol
[28-Dec-15 8:54:07 AM] Sirius 17: and you did comfort and help me
[28-Dec-15 8:54:32 AM] Brook Schiner: Now here is another video commercial done by Giovanni...and the actor in it? The same Ben Youcef that was in the movie the Algerian.....check this
[28-Dec-15 8:54:50 AM] Sirius 17: btw how did John feel about 911?
[28-Dec-15 8:56:47 AM] Brook Schiner: Check out the clock in the beginning...stop it if you have to but check out the clock...and in the end...look at the TWO TOWERS in the end....the reflection....
[28-Dec-15 8:56:52 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duAI7QHCh98

[28-Dec-15 8:57:07 AM] Brook Schiner: John felt as I did...that it was an inside job...
[28-Dec-15 8:58:35 AM] Sirius 17: well i see the towers but what am i missing here?
[28-Dec-15 8:58:45 AM] Brook Schiner: Now...all of a sudden after this video is done we are repairing relations with Cuba! TASTE THE FUTURE!
[28-Dec-15 8:59:04 AM] Brook Schiner: The clock in the beginning flashes 7L
[28-Dec-15 8:59:05 AM] Sirius 17: time on the alarm in the beginning is 5 am
[28-Dec-15 8:59:22 AM] Brook Schiner: run it again
[28-Dec-15 8:59:46 AM] Sirius 17: oh i see it says 5:7L yes
[28-Dec-15 8:59:52 AM] Brook Schiner: YES!
[28-Dec-15 9:00:00 AM] Brook Schiner: WTF is that?
[28-Dec-15 9:00:05 AM] Brook Schiner: Right?
[28-Dec-15 9:00:34 AM] Sirius 17: well i would say it is Logos but yeah it is interesting
[28-Dec-15 9:01:01 AM] Brook Schiner: Well the same year that came out Cuba was economically 7LARGE on world index for import export....which has surpassed anything they ever have...I looked it up
[28-Dec-15 9:01:12 AM] Brook Schiner: 7L
[28-Dec-15 9:01:38 AM] Sirius 17: this Ben Yousef guy in these trailers who is he? i saw a video after this cuba one that shows him as part of the interfaith collition and this i find interesting
[28-Dec-15 9:01:48 AM] Brook Schiner: Watch this...hold on..
[28-Dec-15 9:03:28 AM] Brook Schiner: Ben is an actor...but look at this...
[28-Dec-15 9:03:34 AM] Brook Schiner: http://www.benyoucef.com/interfaith.html
[28-Dec-15 9:04:26 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvSs3QTWtNU

[28-Dec-15 9:05:23 AM] Brook Schiner: Now...let's get to what you posted....
[28-Dec-15 9:05:33 AM] Brook Schiner: hold on....
[28-Dec-15 9:06:09 AM] Sirius 17: sure, i have not seen the full film the Algerian yet, but this is curious as hell
[28-Dec-15 9:07:45 AM] Sirius 17: you know that Islam uses these interfaith rallies to spread its message it is a relgion of peace and as a form of Taquia which is a form of lying that is encouraged to spread Islam
[28-Dec-15 9:09:50 AM] Brook Schiner: crap! HOld on ...I'll hav to find it on your forum...because of course the removed it all from the damned MISTS!!!!!!!!!!
[28-Dec-15 9:10:29 AM] Sirius 17: yes nice of carol
[28-Dec-15 9:10:48 AM] Sirius 17: if you give me a lead i can help you look
[28-Dec-15 9:10:58 AM] Brook Schiner: give me a link to that thread you guys started on the banning...I'll show you then
[28-Dec-15 9:11:31 AM] Brook Schiner: I know where it's at on the post
[28-Dec-15 9:12:07 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/ind...s-associated-with-islam.1434/page-5#post-7684
[28-Dec-15 9:12:53 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/ind...tly-banned-on-moa-thuban-bashing-thread.1436/ this one is where we are keeping a log of the banned posts
[28-Dec-15 9:13:02 AM] Sirius 17: the other one is all the Islam posts
[28-Dec-15 9:15:24 AM] Brook Schiner: No...it's not there....Tony made a pdf of it....the article and shared it with me...but I can't find it right now....
[28-Dec-15 9:17:10 AM] Brook Schiner: Hold on I think I know where it's at....
[28-Dec-15 9:18:54 AM] Sirius 17: oh i have those
[28-Dec-15 9:19:24 AM] *** Sirius 17 sent Truth is the New Hate Speech of Islamophobia.pdf ***
[28-Dec-15 9:19:36 AM] *** Sirius 17 sent The Ontological Metaphysics behind the Physical Manifesto of Islam.pdf ***
[28-Dec-15 9:19:48 AM] Sirius 17: these are the two pdfs he made
[28-Dec-15 9:20:10 AM] Brook Schiner: give me the first one again please I accidently canceled it...doh!
[28-Dec-15 9:20:16 AM] Sirius 17: they are also on my wall too on fb
[28-Dec-15 9:20:35 AM] *** Sirius 17 sent Truth is the New Hate Speech of Islamophobia.pdf ***
[28-Dec-15 9:21:45 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/116862 little blurb about Taquia
[28-Dec-15 9:23:49 AM] Brook Schiner: That's it...Truth is the new hate speech....on page 8 it numbers what to expect in America....
[28-Dec-15 9:23:54 AM] Brook Schiner: now check this...
[28-Dec-15 9:24:03 AM] Sirius 17: very true words in this video, you can kill a man with a bullet but you cannot kill an idea
[28-Dec-15 9:24:32 AM] Sirius 17: chillingly true
[28-Dec-15 9:24:48 AM] Brook Schiner: Number 3,4, and 5 on that list
[28-Dec-15 9:25:08 AM] Brook Schiner: Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches
and mosques on the virtues of Islam
[28-Dec-15 9:25:41 AM] Brook Schiner: Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or
a controlling stock.
[28-Dec-15 9:25:53 AM] Sirius 17: 3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.
4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.
5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.
[28-Dec-15 9:26:12 AM] Sirius 17: yes all happening now
[28-Dec-15 9:26:21 AM] Sirius 17: and years before 911
[28-Dec-15 9:26:39 AM] Brook Schiner: Yes.....now I remind you of the movie that John worked on....that JUST got released this year.....after his death in 2012....
[28-Dec-15 9:26:43 AM] Sirius 17: more so now they have a Muslim sympathizer in the white house
[28-Dec-15 9:27:11 AM] Sirius 17: and an entire cabnet of Islamic advisors
[28-Dec-15 9:27:12 AM] Brook Schiner: That movie was in the works a long time ago....but JUST got released? Do you find that odd?
[28-Dec-15 9:27:15 AM] Sirius 17: it is reality
[28-Dec-15 9:27:55 AM] Brook Schiner: And remember I said they had a heated argument about this whole thing just before he died!
[28-Dec-15 9:28:11 AM] Sirius 17: no actually, the Logos does play both sides Brook, hard to see but i see how it is manipulating Islam to force the polarity to a head
[28-Dec-15 9:28:54 AM] Sirius 17: the Logos plays the light within the dark and the dark within the light, it is a war going on yes
[28-Dec-15 9:29:07 AM] Sirius 17: yes i recall you said this
[28-Dec-15 9:29:32 AM] Sirius 17: do you think they killed John on purpose?
[28-Dec-15 9:30:15 AM] Brook Schiner: Then I get to California to bury my son....and Harry Lennix shows up...and the city council is giving adjourning motions? That is political...that is politics...my son was involved in politics?
[28-Dec-15 9:30:19 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6op_5J6xuk

[28-Dec-15 9:30:29 AM] Sirius 17: yes i watched that one
[28-Dec-15 9:30:42 AM] Sirius 17: it was very odd
[28-Dec-15 9:31:21 AM] Brook Schiner: No...John was ONLY involved in politics with one person I know of and that was another dead guy....Robin Williams who was in plenty of trouble with the Islam folks...the cheered his death
[28-Dec-15 9:31:26 AM] Brook Schiner: Check it
[28-Dec-15 9:32:09 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osvvTOzzQBE

[28-Dec-15 9:32:22 AM] Brook Schiner: That was the reason they cheered RW death
[28-Dec-15 9:33:31 AM] Brook Schiner: Now that photo I shared with John and Robin who john work on plenty of films with....was not from a film...it was from a political get out and vote rally and that photo was from the after party
[28-Dec-15 9:33:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes Robin is right, they get to fantasy Allah heaven and get raisins
[28-Dec-15 9:34:01 AM] Sirius 17: god he is hilarious
[28-Dec-15 9:34:29 AM] Sirius 17: yeah you shared it with me, tagged me in it recall
[28-Dec-15 9:34:35 AM | Edited 9:34:40 AM] Sirius 17: i think i am still tagged in it
[28-Dec-15 9:34:51 AM] Sirius 17: you tagged me while John and Robin were alive
[28-Dec-15 9:34:54 AM] Sirius 17: still
[28-Dec-15 9:35:01 AM] Sirius 17: well in bodies
[28-Dec-15 9:35:07 AM] Sirius 17: i consider them both very much alive
[28-Dec-15 9:35:11 AM] Sirius 17: as waveforms now
[28-Dec-15 9:35:16 AM] Sirius 17: Logos
[28-Dec-15 9:35:33 AM] Sirius 17: they are trying to help us Brook, i know you can see this
[28-Dec-15 9:36:07 AM] Sirius 17: the 'dead' can't do much without bodies who can understand them though
[28-Dec-15 9:36:14 AM] Sirius 17: except watch
[28-Dec-15 9:37:45 AM | Edited 9:38:03 AM] Brook Schiner: John has been telling me this for quite sometime...I'm just too dense sometimes to get it....I didn't know until recently he was involved with these jokers....Not Robin...but Giovanni and Harry lennix...Harry lennix....there's a whole lot more on Harry Lennix....and he did not care for Robin Williams....AT ALL!
[28-Dec-15 9:39:00 AM] Brook Schiner: Harry lennix flamed one of the movies Robin was in before he died. Harry lennix is becoming the godfather of Hollywood in case you were not aware....
[28-Dec-15 9:39:38 AM] Brook Schiner: Here's another one Harry and John were working on...get this....
[28-Dec-15 9:39:39 AM] Sirius 17: does he have ties to Islam? I am not as familar with Hollywood as you hon
[28-Dec-15 9:40:07 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLCfGPcTOl8

[28-Dec-15 9:40:37 AM] Brook Schiner: It's shakesphere for the getto...
[28-Dec-15 9:41:40 AM] Brook Schiner: From the pdf...from Tony... * Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants
[28-Dec-15 9:41:56 AM] Sirius 17: yes you see it
[28-Dec-15 9:42:36 AM] Brook Schiner: Are you getting what I'm meaning here? What was in the pdf....my son was working on for crying out loud!
[28-Dec-15 9:42:57 AM] Sirius 17: yes i hear you
[28-Dec-15 9:43:04 AM] Brook Schiner: Good
[28-Dec-15 9:43:11 AM] Sirius 17: but he was decieved ok
[28-Dec-15 9:43:12 AM] Brook Schiner: I know you would get it
[28-Dec-15 9:43:32 AM] Brook Schiner: Absolutely....he was just in it to MAKE MOVIES.....
[28-Dec-15 9:43:40 AM] Sirius 17: and now he is out of the body he is warning you as you are him alive do you read me?
[28-Dec-15 9:43:50 AM] Brook Schiner: YEP
[28-Dec-15 9:43:52 AM] Sirius 17: good
[28-Dec-15 9:45:05 AM] Brook Schiner: This is so obvious....it's been in the works long before France...but look at the turn of events? Look at that trailer again.....it's just been released...in August
[28-Dec-15 9:45:06 AM] Sirius 17: JOHN=47=74=JESUS
[28-Dec-15 9:45:14 AM] Sirius 17: 47=TIME
[28-Dec-15 9:45:22 AM] Sirius 17: 11
[28-Dec-15 9:45:25 AM] Sirius 17: 2
[28-Dec-15 9:45:59 AM] Sirius 17: (11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"
[28-Dec-15 9:46:10 AM] Sirius 17: Now read this and what i just said about you reading me
[28-Dec-15 9:46:22 AM] Sirius 17: there it is right there for you in the GOT Brook
[28-Dec-15 9:46:27 AM] Sirius 17: Jesus's words, not mine
[28-Dec-15 9:47:12 AM] Sirius 17: (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
[28-Dec-15 9:47:31 AM] Sirius 17: (47) Jesus said, "It is impossible for a man to mount two horses or to stretch two bows. And it is impossible for a servant to serve two masters; otherwise, he will honor the one and treat the other contemptuously. No man drinks old wine and immediately desires to drink new wine. And new wine is not put into old wineskins, lest they burst; nor is old wine put into a new wineskin, lest it spoil it. An old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, because a tear would result."
[28-Dec-15 9:47:38 AM] Sirius 17: some more GOT codes
[28-Dec-15 9:47:50 AM] Sirius 17: all confirmed by your own testimony
[28-Dec-15 9:48:02 AM] Sirius 17: and we did not nor could not make that up for you
[28-Dec-15 9:48:40 AM] Sirius 17: (74) He said, "O Lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the cistern."
[28-Dec-15 9:48:49 AM] Brook Schiner: Indeed I see it...and when I saw that pdf information I about flipped because I was investigating this whole thing with Giovanni and John and Harry....
[28-Dec-15 9:49:04 AM] Sirius 17: i see, makes sense
[28-Dec-15 9:49:18 AM] Sirius 17: tell me more about how you came to know Pris and BR
[28-Dec-15 9:49:28 AM] Sirius 17: i am just starting to read their silly thread
[28-Dec-15 9:49:32 AM] Brook Schiner: from that pdf
[28-Dec-15 9:49:35 AM] Sirius 17: you know the contact one
[28-Dec-15 9:49:37 AM] Brook Schiner: Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked
Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.
[28-Dec-15 9:49:56 AM] Sirius 17: yes
[28-Dec-15 9:50:27 AM] Brook Schiner: Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and
ethic groups in America.
[28-Dec-15 9:50:46 AM] Sirius 17: yeah that one is chilling isn't it?
[28-Dec-15 9:50:51 AM] Brook Schiner: That is in that Ben Yousef video...I posted here
[28-Dec-15 9:52:22 AM] Brook Schiner: Well...there's actually a whole lot more I could share but it's rather personal....so I'll leave it at that because I'm sure the others here might be interested ..I'm certain Tony will be interested...I promised him I would share this with him and here I have.
[28-Dec-15 9:53:19 AM] Brook Schiner: I do want to reiterate ....Cuba will play a part here...just watch....just watch....
[28-Dec-15 9:53:38 AM] Brook Schiner: It may not seem like it now....but it will
[28-Dec-15 9:55:32 AM] Sirius 17: yes well you could be right hon
[28-Dec-15 9:55:54 AM] Sirius 17: and i do trust that John is helping you to see things
[28-Dec-15 9:56:16 AM] Brook Schiner: here is one more that will chill you...same guy...
[28-Dec-15 9:56:21 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4PTPsnKKBw#t=26

[28-Dec-15 9:56:39 AM] Brook Schiner: I do trust John had been working to get me to see this...
[28-Dec-15 9:59:01 AM] Sirius 17: you know what this is so decieving too
[28-Dec-15 9:59:19 AM] Sirius 17: Islam pretending to get along with the infidel
[28-Dec-15 9:59:54 AM] Sirius 17: now show those interfaith church goers the Homs video of the slaughterhouse and see how cosy they feel about it
[28-Dec-15 9:59:55 AM] Brook Schiner: Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran''
anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.
[28-Dec-15 10:00:08 AM] Brook Schiner: Exactly
[28-Dec-15 10:00:14 AM] Sirius 17: oh it is not allowed to be critisized
[28-Dec-15 10:00:34 AM] Sirius 17: ever wonder why we get banned?
[28-Dec-15 10:00:40 AM] Brook Schiner: Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches
and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same
monotheistic faith.
[28-Dec-15 10:00:48 AM] Sirius 17: the truth often gets banned
[28-Dec-15 10:00:52 AM] Sirius 17: everywhere
[28-Dec-15 10:01:27 AM] Sirius 17: and it is the lies that are spread, including all these zionist conspiracy theories, they are just bait and switch games ok
[28-Dec-15 10:01:45 AM] Sirius 17: the MB and Islam has been spreading this shit using hollywood too
[28-Dec-15 10:02:20 AM] Brook Schiner: Well....I have a bad feeling about what John got next to....and I think he would be appalled at this whole thing. Remember this....John and I were very close....I knew how he thought on these matters....
[28-Dec-15 10:02:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes but remember now he has gone cosmic
[28-Dec-15 10:02:50 AM] Sirius 17: his mind is not human anymore
[28-Dec-15 10:02:57 AM] Sirius 17: this is the real ET contact hon
[28-Dec-15 10:03:40 AM] Brook Schiner: That is understandable....but in his human mind this would fry him and he would not have participated if he knew what this was leading to you see what I mean?
[28-Dec-15 10:04:01 AM] Sirius 17: yes but he is no longer human and he is immune to such thoughts
[28-Dec-15 10:04:10 AM] Sirius 17: he knows full well what he is now
[28-Dec-15 10:04:10 AM] Brook Schiner: a given
[28-Dec-15 10:04:32 AM] Brook Schiner: I get that...
[28-Dec-15 10:04:41 AM] Sirius 17: and so take comfort that you are getting his higher dimensional advice
[28-Dec-15 10:04:52 AM] Brook Schiner: I do
[28-Dec-15 10:05:41 AM] Sirius 17: this will help Susan too as her mother just passed as well
[28-Dec-15 10:05:59 AM] Brook Schiner: I think he also nudged me to tell this and show this to Tony....because I had a dream about this with Tony in it....and I don't dream of Tony...LOL
[28-Dec-15 10:06:16 AM] Sirius 17: whynot lol
[28-Dec-15 10:06:21 AM] Brook Schiner: LOL
[28-Dec-15 10:06:27 AM] Brook Schiner: You know what I mean
[28-Dec-15 10:06:28 AM] Sirius 17: i think we have all dreamed of Tony
[28-Dec-15 10:06:37 AM] Sirius 17: yes i am teasing lol
[28-Dec-15 10:06:42 AM] Brook Schiner: Wel...that was the first one I ever had
[28-Dec-15 10:06:45 AM] Sirius 17: i hope it was sexy
[28-Dec-15 10:06:49 AM] Brook Schiner: no
[28-Dec-15 10:07:01 AM] Sirius 17: oh well those will come lol
[28-Dec-15 10:07:02 AM] Brook Schiner: it was Sirius....LOL
[28-Dec-15 10:07:09 AM] Sirius 17: lol good one
[28-Dec-15 10:07:42 AM] Brook Schiner: Well...sweety I have to go...the dog is barking and needs to be fed....feed me he's yelling!
[28-Dec-15 10:07:58 AM] Sirius 17: DOG=GOD yes feed the dog
[28-Dec-15 10:08:05 AM] Brook Schiner: LOL...yes
[28-Dec-15 10:08:14 AM] Sirius 17: give him a kiss for me
[28-Dec-15 10:08:34 AM] Sirius 17: omg i saw the cutest french bull dog the other day at the bank, i wanted to take him home with me
[28-Dec-15 10:08:39 AM] Sirius 17: i thought of you
[28-Dec-15 10:08:47 AM] Sirius 17: and your baby
[28-Dec-15 10:09:06 AM] Sirius 17: too much cuteness all packed into those bulldogs
[28-Dec-15 10:09:16 AM] Brook Schiner: Will do....I'll share a video I made of him here too...see ya later!
[28-Dec-15 10:09:27 AM] Sirius 17: take care Brook
[28-Dec-15 10:10:10 AM] Brook Schiner: Well...my computer is stuck...I'll share it later and go feed the dog....later
[28-Dec-15 10:10:21 AM] Sirius 17: sure
[28-Dec-15 10:10:23 AM] Brook Schiner: you too...take care
[28-Dec-15 10:11:48 AM] Brook Schiner: Unstuck....enjoy
[28-Dec-15 10:11:53 AM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53W-XNX1LCI

[28-Dec-15 10:14:29 AM] Sirius 17: hey Brook, we are Sirius too
[28-Dec-15 10:14:33 AM] Sirius 17: DRAGON=59=95=SIRIUS=IAMTHATAMI=SCORPIO=NEPTUNE=EXCALIBUR
[28-Dec-15 12:34:28 PM] Kali 666: [11/18/2015 8:16:09 PM] Raven: i just noticed you left that chat
[11/18/2015 8:16:29 PM | Edited 8:16:35 PM] Wyzard: Yes the time has come to 'take sides'
[11/18/2015 8:16:43 PM] Raven: i guess i will also, i am tired of the monologue myself
[11/18/2015 8:16:52 PM] raxnae: yes I was recently watching Robert Bob Dean's Cosmic Top Secret on Xen
[11/18/2015 8:17:00 PM] Wyzard: I am rather disappounted with xeia
[11/18/2015 8:17:22 PM] Wyzard: her wanting to 'go there and 'help' asha buying her food etc is just obnoxious
[11/18/2015 8:17:51 PM] Wyzard: They also started their own chat now so this was my Logos trigger to distance myself
[11/18/2015 8:18:02 PM] Raven: oh they did, i wouldn't know
[11/18/2015 8:18:10 PM] Raven: they never invite us so whatever
[11/18/2015 8:18:22 PM] Wyzard: Look at the last few lines where Zaina says go to that room or something
[11/18/2015 8:18:30 PM] Raven: i left both chats also
[11/18/2015 8:18:52 PM] raxnae: I made this so I could continue seeing the Logos information through you guys cause I am a student and wish to learn the true true as one movie put it
[11/18/2015 8:18:58 PM] Raven: well likely they have had an alternate chat for a while
[11/18/2015 8:19:08 PM | Edited 8:19:49 PM] Wyzard: You did not have to but if you read the above you know that they cant be trusted; especially in the developments since this dream
[11/18/2015 8:19:29 PM] Wyzard: No read the last few lines it is all about 'helping' asha
[11/18/2015 8:19:34 PM] Wyzard: or ex Roger
[11/18/2015 8:19:35 PM] Raven: yes i see
[11/18/2015 8:19:54 PM] Wyzard: merci
[11/18/2015 8:20:03 PM] Raven: [1:31:36 PM] Daenerys Targaryen: I have nothing
[1:31:58 PM] Daenerys Targaryen: two mugs I have and one fork
[1:32:03 PM] Zaina: lol
[1:32:09 PM] Daenerys Targaryen: really
[1:32:20 PM] Zaina: i think i may start sending you things give me your address
[1:32:34 PM] Daenerys Targaryen: You have my address
[1:32:40 PM] Xeia: i don't
[1:32:41 PM] Zaina: no not any longer
[1:32:47 PM] Xeia: so you can put it in my window
[1:32:53 PM] Xeia: wait
[11/18/2015 8:20:09 PM] Raven: yes poor asha
[11/18/2015 8:20:29 PM] Wyzard: Its all fake
[11/18/2015 8:20:40 PM] Raven: of course as we have known for years
[11/18/2015 8:20:40 PM] Wyzard: And no thuban would fall for it
[11/18/2015 8:21:01 PM] Wyzard: So her dragon nature is not what i thought it was
[11/18/2015 8:21:02 PM] Raven: i was being sarcastic of course in saying poor asha
[11/18/2015 8:21:10 PM] raxnae: lol
[11/18/2015 8:21:10 PM] Wyzard: I know lol
[11/18/2015 8:21:38 PM] Wyzard: I had my suspicions though for a while, she being 'so nice' to exRoger
[11/18/2015 8:21:42 PM] Raven: how many years of her monologues, she makes Susan's monologues look like nothing
[11/18/2015 8:21:51 PM] Raven: years of her ranting and raving bs
[11/18/2015 8:21:52 PM] Wyzard: You got it
[28-Dec-15 12:35:57 PM] Kali 666:
For someone who is always spitting on 'hurt human feelings', you sound pretty "hurt" here Tony
[28-Dec-15 12:36:20 PM] Kali 666: hurt as in a 12 yr old teenager in school recess
[28-Dec-15 12:36:45 PM] Kali 666: oh look, she is talking to Asha....hmmff! I am outta here!
[28-Dec-15 12:37:41 PM] Kali 666: the level of hatred and utter contempt you feel for her is out of this world
[28-Dec-15 12:40:28 PM] Kali 666: [Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:19 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< You did not have to but if you read the above you know that they cant be trusted;Telling Brandon that i cannot be trusted...
[28-Dec-15 12:41:51 PM] Kali 666: Typical father figure Super Ego memeplex you have there
[28-Dec-15 12:42:15 PM] Kali 666: in reality super immature and childish
[28-Dec-15 12:43:22 PM] Kali 666: [Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:17 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< I am rather disappounted with xeia
her wanting to 'go there and 'help' asha buying her food etc is just obnoxious
[28-Dec-15 12:43:47 PM] Kali 666: what is truly obnoxious, is you even caring if i were to send her money or not
[28-Dec-15 12:43:51 PM] Kali 666: or help her in any way
[28-Dec-15 12:44:00 PM] Kali 666: shape or form
[28-Dec-15 12:46:07 PM] Kali 666: [11/18/2015 8:20:29 PM] Wyzard: Its all fake
[11/18/2015 8:20:40 PM] Raven: of course as we have known for years
[11/18/2015 8:20:40 PM] Wyzard: And no thuban would fall for it
IF you and Raven knew that she was lying and being a fake and that in truth she is not peniless, then that was between you and Raven...as i did not know that for a fact
[28-Dec-15 12:46:47 PM | Edited 12:50:55 PM] Kali 666: [Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:21 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< So her dragon nature is not what i thought it wasWhat in the world would you OR RAVEN know about my "Dragon nature"
[28-Dec-15 12:48:27 PM] Kali 666: Your hatred is such that you cannot even call her by her own name
[28-Dec-15 12:48:39 PM | Edited 12:49:17 PM] Kali 666: she is "exRoger" now eh?
[28-Dec-15 12:48:39 PM] raxnae: it seems you took up that offer, unfortunately I am not eligible to respond as it is not me involved personally invested etc.
[28-Dec-15 12:48:59 PM] Kali 666: what offer?
[28-Dec-15 12:49:12 PM] raxnae: to look at the beginning of the chats birth
[28-Dec-15 12:49:35 PM] Kali 666: does it matter where in the chat this is?
[28-Dec-15 12:49:47 PM] Kali 666: i am not allowed to look?
[28-Dec-15 12:50:39 PM] raxnae: not really I'm just surprised you actually took the time to look is all, it shows a personal investment, when the ET mind would just process the data and counter argue based on logic and reason instead of emotion
[28-Dec-15 12:51:42 PM] Kali 666: don't 'et mind' me with Tony's speech
[28-Dec-15 12:51:45 PM] raxnae: your "roaring ocean" is showing lol
[28-Dec-15 12:52:00 PM] Kali 666: i am bringing it up to light
[28-Dec-15 12:52:08 PM] Kali 666: for Rok to see
[28-Dec-15 12:52:12 PM] Kali 666: is that bad?
[28-Dec-15 12:52:20 PM] raxnae: neutral
[28-Dec-15 12:52:32 PM] Kali 666: why should it remain hidden and "forgotten"
[28-Dec-15 12:52:46 PM] Kali 666: when it shows people's true colors?
[28-Dec-15 12:53:07 PM] Kali 666: it shows Tony's true sentiments
[28-Dec-15 12:53:21 PM] Kali 666: despite him always saying he despises "human feelings"
[28-Dec-15 12:53:39 PM] raxnae: if you have reason to believe this then let it be so, but you still are reacting emotionally and not looking at it impersonally, its like the cave of darkness on Dagoba where Yoda was found, you take in only what is within you
[28-Dec-15 12:54:17 PM] Kali 666: i look at it yes
[28-Dec-15 12:54:20 PM] Kali 666: i look
[28-Dec-15 12:54:27 PM] Kali 666: as i look at this for example:
[28-Dec-15 12:54:30 PM] Kali 666: [Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:18 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< well likely they have had an alternate chat for a while
[28-Dec-15 12:54:38 PM] Kali 666: which is of course NOT TRUE
[28-Dec-15 12:54:54 PM] Kali 666: just more of her poisonous assumptions
[28-Dec-15 12:55:13 PM] Kali 666: she LOVES to do this all the time
[28-Dec-15 12:55:38 PM] raxnae: assumptions make an ass of all of us, but why did she feel the need to say this is the question? how were the rest of the more active chatters treating Tony and Raven?
[28-Dec-15 12:55:56 PM] Kali 666: how am i to know?
[28-Dec-15 12:56:12 PM] raxnae: then you are hiding what should not be hidden
[28-Dec-15 12:56:26 PM] Kali 666: just because nobody speaks on that group chat, that automatically has to mean i have secret chatrooms on the side where they are not invited???
[28-Dec-15 12:56:37 PM] Kali 666: please...that is so childish
[28-Dec-15 12:57:55 PM] Kali 666: Zaina and i were in that new group with Asha so that she could give her actual real address...and at any point i thought that she was lying saying she had no money if in reality she did
[28-Dec-15 12:58:27 PM] Kali 666: soon thereafter not even days later zaina left appalled and in FEAR of Thubans and that group chat was destroyed
[28-Dec-15 12:58:35 PM] Kali 666: but that is not the point
[28-Dec-15 12:58:50 PM] Kali 666: the point is on the LIES created to make others look bad
[28-Dec-15 12:58:57 PM] Kali 666: why does it have to be like this?
[28-Dec-15 12:59:05 PM] Kali 666: where is the honor in that?
[28-Dec-15 12:59:28 PM] raxnae: the point is as always the Devil Memeplex of Islam ensnaring others and the ability to discern truth from bs
[28-Dec-15 12:59:56 PM] Kali 666: islam is new here Brandon...Tony just realized this himself not more than a month or two ago
[28-Dec-15 12:59:57 PM] raxnae: this was ranted about days on end by Asha
[28-Dec-15 1:00:05 PM] Kali 666: he said it himself
[28-Dec-15 1:00:13 PM] Kali 666: so?
[28-Dec-15 1:00:33 PM] Kali 666: Tony also rants and posts his own cosmology over and over
[28-Dec-15 1:00:37 PM] Kali 666: so what?
[28-Dec-15 1:00:42 PM] raxnae: everytime Tony posted raw data he was called names etc. all rather unwarranted
[28-Dec-15 1:00:53 PM] Kali 666: he can do it but no other Thuban can?
[28-Dec-15 1:01:21 PM] raxnae: if you have raw data and information to dispense then dispense it
[28-Dec-15 1:01:27 PM] Kali 666: but the data should stand up for itself in any case
[28-Dec-15 1:01:32 PM] Kali 666: it needs no defending
[28-Dec-15 1:01:39 PM] raxnae: if not then what is the point of arguing about it?
[28-Dec-15 1:01:58 PM] Kali 666: the problem is that there never was a real argument
[28-Dec-15 1:02:00 PM] Kali 666: ever
[28-Dec-15 1:02:12 PM] Kali 666: no discussion, no questions asked
[28-Dec-15 1:02:16 PM] Kali 666: and IF asked
[28-Dec-15 1:02:18 PM] Kali 666: no answers.
[28-Dec-15 1:02:25 PM] Kali 666: just "secrets"
[28-Dec-15 1:02:29 PM] Kali 666: evasives
[28-Dec-15 1:02:41 PM] Kali 666: nothing else
[28-Dec-15 1:02:44 PM] raxnae: Asha is immune to the asking of questions and discussions based on logic and reason
[28-Dec-15 1:03:07 PM] raxnae: therefore why bother?
[28-Dec-15 1:03:20 PM] Kali 666: am i asking you to bother?
[28-Dec-15 1:03:55 PM] raxnae: I'm merely pointing out the true issue involved in this, not the human personal egotistical bs
[28-Dec-15 1:04:40 PM] Kali 666: then what is the small chat excerpt i reposted up here if not exactly that?
[28-Dec-15 1:06:04 PM] raxnae: perhaps they misjudged you and if they did they are at fault on the human level, but those were words not swords cutting off your head, the question is can you overlook the human bs, forgive and forget, because if you cannot forgive then they will always have power over you
[28-Dec-15 1:07:04 PM] Kali 666: would you like it if i said to other people that you cannot be trusted?
[28-Dec-15 1:07:49 PM] raxnae: if I were compromised it would be the best course of action whether I liked or disliked it, they thought you were compromised because of your seemingly loyalty to Asha
[28-Dec-15 1:10:18 PM] Kali 666: you were not here in the beginning of Thuban Brandon, but if you were you would have witnessed how this "movement" of Thuban all began in the first place and under what mottos and understandings
[28-Dec-15 1:10:26 PM] Kali 666: it was never ever meant to be a one man show
[28-Dec-15 1:11:01 PM | Edited 1:12:13 PM] Kali 666: and back then many of us were hooked by the notion of everybody neing very very different but all working together under a common goal
[28-Dec-15 1:11:21 PM] Kali 666: our DIFFERENCES were respected and honored and valued and praised
[28-Dec-15 1:11:31 PM] Kali 666: that is what started it all
[28-Dec-15 1:11:51 PM] Kali 666: you can ask Rok if you do not "trust" me that i say the truth
[28-Dec-15 1:12:06 PM] raxnae: you are right I was not here at the beginning, I arrived at the DECLINE just as all things rise and fall
[28-Dec-15 1:13:01 PM] Kali 666: so then, back then, the notion of one Thuban being against another for philosophical reasons or whatever was abhorrent
[28-Dec-15 1:13:39 PM] raxnae: that may be so, but it doesn't change the fact that Islam is the Enemy of the World
[28-Dec-15 1:15:01 PM] Kali 666: the fallout came when individual feelings began clashing with Tony's Logos downloads or agenda
[28-Dec-15 1:15:21 PM] Kali 666: then the separation began to occur
[28-Dec-15 1:16:05 PM] Kali 666: those who 'know' and those who do not 'know', those who are 'attuned' and those who are not 'attuned'
[28-Dec-15 1:16:24 PM] raxnae: its only natural among groups, especially on the human hive mind of the internet, where there are multiple overminds and differing levels of loyalty to each
[28-Dec-15 1:17:28 PM] Kali 666: something like that was never supposed to be 'natural' in a group like Thuban...a group of supposedly awakened and enlightened beings
[28-Dec-15 1:18:01 PM] Kali 666: then the idolization of the "et's" became more and more evident
[28-Dec-15 1:18:38 PM] Kali 666: using terms like the "ET mind" as a praise versus the term "human mind" used as a form of insult
[28-Dec-15 1:19:11 PM] Kali 666: and a "true" Thuban is supposed to notice this knee bending and go quietly into the night?
[28-Dec-15 1:19:15 PM] Kali 666: bend over and take it?
[28-Dec-15 1:20:00 PM] Kali 666: just because the self professed "leaders" aka Tony and Raven decide it to be so?
[28-Dec-15 1:20:42 PM] raxnae: it is what it is
[28-Dec-15 1:21:03 PM] Kali 666: all whilst people like Susan would rant and beg for help and other members would also go through their own individual hells and noone would care because it was not in their Logos timeline?
[28-Dec-15 1:21:26 PM] raxnae: obviously your loyalty to the hive mind of thuban is still existant or you wouldn't be here talking
[28-Dec-15 1:22:00 PM | Edited 1:22:09 PM] raxnae: we all have our personal hells to go through Xeia, I've spoken to Susan many times
[28-Dec-15 1:22:26 PM] Kali 666: if a Thuban reaches out to another Thuban in private...to lend a hand....does it have to be advertized on the group chats for all others to see? does it have to be posted as propaganda as the good deed of the day in one of the Thuban posts on teh forums for all the world to see?
[28-Dec-15 1:22:48 PM] Kali 666: and if it is not done that way...people are all of a sudden changing "loyalties"???
[28-Dec-15 1:23:21 PM] raxnae: the sharing of data is of importance and interaction is to be observed and run through ones data processor
[28-Dec-15 1:23:58 PM] raxnae: that is what Thuban comes down to, the sharing of information and data
[28-Dec-15 1:25:02 PM] Kali 666: Tony and Raven think that everything Thuban needs to be done and run through them for them to pass judgement on it and to see if it is in accordance to their agenda, otheriwise it is "bs" or backstabing or whatever...that is not just childish...it is dogmatic
[28-Dec-15 1:25:17 PM] raxnae: and the truth is you need to make peace not war
[28-Dec-15 1:25:29 PM] raxnae: the true war is with something far worse
[28-Dec-15 1:25:39 PM] raxnae: that people are literally losing their heads over
[28-Dec-15 1:25:56 PM] Kali 666: how can i make peace when i read through these chats and all i see is defamation?
[28-Dec-15 1:26:22 PM] Kali 666: killing of character
[28-Dec-15 1:26:42 PM] raxnae: because you're smart and know the only way to restore character is to be the character
[28-Dec-15 1:26:52 PM] Kali 666: to later say: "oh...it is not you, it is your human mind we despise"
[28-Dec-15 1:27:01 PM] Kali 666: we judge
[28-Dec-15 1:27:20 PM] raxnae: of course we all judge, that is in our nature
[28-Dec-15 1:28:04 PM] Kali 666: Tony spoke of the environment that you are in...the company that you keep...etc
[28-Dec-15 1:28:35 PM] Kali 666: are Thubans now supposed to run a check with him to see if it is ok if we chat with this person or that one?
[28-Dec-15 1:29:14 PM] raxnae: did you fail to follow the timeline that you know more about than I do?
[28-Dec-15 1:29:40 PM] Kali 666: even more so after in more than one occasion he has said his personal "goodbyes" to all of us saying that he is now officially retired and over with Thuban as it is
[28-Dec-15 1:31:07 PM | Edited 1:31:24 PM] Kali 666: so he decides to "leave" Thuban and then i am being judged because i had ONE TIME, ONE CHAT with Asha and Zaina, after which btw, Zaina BLOCKED ME for no other reason than her thinkiing I am anti-islam as Tony is?
[28-Dec-15 1:32:05 PM] raxnae: can you not follow the paradigm shifts?
[28-Dec-15 1:32:25 PM] Kali 666: do you know i have a very nice painting my mother bought for me in the Alhambra of Spain, which has Arabic letters in it praising Allah hanging right on the wall in my living room?
[28-Dec-15 1:32:32 PM] Kali 666: Does THAT make me a terrorist Tony?
[28-Dec-15 1:33:04 PM] Kali 666: yes Brandon...i do keep track of all that
[28-Dec-15 1:33:12 PM] raxnae: that is more like a joke than an actual provocation lol
[28-Dec-15 1:33:20 PM] Kali 666: no
[28-Dec-15 1:33:23 PM] Kali 666: it is the TRUTH
[28-Dec-15 1:33:33 PM] Kali 666: i do have it, i can take a picture to prove it
[28-Dec-15 1:33:42 PM] Kali 666: but that is not the point
[28-Dec-15 1:34:28 PM | Edited 1:34:44 PM] Kali 666: do i have to completely HATE everything ever associated with the islamic culture in order to qualify for Logos salvation?
[28-Dec-15 1:34:51 PM] Kali 666: teh arts?
[28-Dec-15 1:34:53 PM] Kali 666: the music?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:08 PM] Kali 666: the written language?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:13 PM] Kali 666: the dresses?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:17 PM] Kali 666: everything?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:29 PM] Kali 666: and if i do not hate
[28-Dec-15 1:35:36 PM] Kali 666: what does that make me?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:42 PM] Kali 666: anti-Logos?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:46 PM] Kali 666: says who?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:48 PM] Kali 666: you?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:52 PM] Kali 666: Raven?
[28-Dec-15 1:35:56 PM] Kali 666: please
[28-Dec-15 1:36:37 PM] Kali 666: Raven and Tony treat us Thubans as if we were the same bunch as the people out there who know not what's going on
[28-Dec-15 1:36:44 PM] raxnae: You can like or dislike whatever you want it still does not change the fact that the CORE VALUES of the culture are anti life
[28-Dec-15 1:37:15 PM] raxnae: or have you not read a quran?
[28-Dec-15 1:37:38 PM] Kali 666: i know what the agenda is
[28-Dec-15 1:37:49 PM] Kali 666: in the mind of Tony
[28-Dec-15 1:37:55 PM] Kali 666: he has explained it himself
[28-Dec-15 1:38:10 PM] Kali 666: and he has also said, that he will do it alone if he has to
[28-Dec-15 1:38:37 PM] Kali 666: ofc he knows very well that is not true as he knows very well that Raven will too
[28-Dec-15 1:38:55 PM] Kali 666: and that is all fine
[28-Dec-15 1:39:09 PM] Kali 666: they have the right to go about their lives as they choose to
[28-Dec-15 1:39:26 PM] raxnae: this is basically turning into a dispute between a labor union and the chairman of the board
[28-Dec-15 1:39:55 PM] Kali 666: but when using the label Thuban, there is no way they can dissasociate Tony's agenda with the rest of Thubans who were here since the beginning
[28-Dec-15 1:40:20 PM] Kali 666: so the thing is that now, everybody thinks ALL THUBANS are haters
[28-Dec-15 1:40:45 PM] Kali 666: that we all share exactly the same sentiment as Tony's
[28-Dec-15 1:42:36 PM] raxnae: you can move to a muslim country and convert for all I care, but I have watched the history of Islam, for any of its beauty it is far more covered in death and destruction
[28-Dec-15 1:42:52 PM] Kali 666: Where is the respect for individuation that was professed at the beginning?
[28-Dec-15 1:43:30 PM] Kali 666: listen, it can be islam now, judaism later, or any other religion
[28-Dec-15 1:43:38 PM] raxnae: I know this because they personally tried to subvert me and convert me into a militant islamic terrorist
[28-Dec-15 1:43:40 PM] Kali 666: that is not the point
[28-Dec-15 1:44:11 PM] raxnae: I have no hatred of muslims themselves
[28-Dec-15 1:44:15 PM] raxnae: only their idea
[28-Dec-15 1:44:58 PM] Kali 666: if you want to talk about islam so much...let's do it
[28-Dec-15 1:45:30 PM] Kali 666: i agree that all the atrocitoes commited lately "in the name of" have been and are barbaric
[28-Dec-15 1:45:42 PM] Kali 666: just as they were for ages
[28-Dec-15 1:45:55 PM] Kali 666: "in the name of......" (fill in the blank)
[28-Dec-15 1:46:04 PM] Kali 666: ofc they are
[28-Dec-15 1:47:26 PM] Kali 666: even a very asleep sheeple new to the new age would be able to see something so horrible and ofc he would be offended and would tremble in fear watching those terrible pictures of babies dead with mutilated bodies that btw resemble a lot of the pictures of palestinian children killed by the zionists
[28-Dec-15 1:47:45 PM] Kali 666: but ok...let's all agree that those barbarities are non natura and must stop
[28-Dec-15 1:47:58 PM] Kali 666: ok so far?
[28-Dec-15 1:48:32 PM] raxnae: sure
[28-Dec-15 1:48:50 PM] Kali 666: yes they are very very terrible and horrible
[28-Dec-15 1:49:01 PM] Kali 666: glad we are all in agreement
[28-Dec-15 1:49:18 PM] raxnae: the problem is an idea can't be killed or fought naturally, it must either transform into a new idea, or die a natural death after running its course
[28-Dec-15 1:49:51 PM] Kali 666: now you tell me, why post and repost those images over and over in facebook, in the forums....here on Skype...
[28-Dec-15 1:49:53 PM] Kali 666: why?
[28-Dec-15 1:50:23 PM] raxnae: to simply act as a mirror of truth that the west still to this day denies
[28-Dec-15 1:50:37 PM] Kali 666: over and over?
[28-Dec-15 1:50:45 PM] raxnae: yes over and over until it clicks
[28-Dec-15 1:50:56 PM] Kali 666: yes and then it clicks ok?
[28-Dec-15 1:51:04 PM] Kali 666: the person already knows it is true
[28-Dec-15 1:51:09 PM] raxnae: and then the idea can die
[28-Dec-15 1:51:18 PM] Kali 666: and the person is already appaled and hating islam as much as you do
[28-Dec-15 1:51:25 PM] Kali 666: and then over and over again
[28-Dec-15 1:51:27 PM] Kali 666: why?
[28-Dec-15 1:51:48 PM] Kali 666: it is like asking a person to eat a rotten apple who they can see already it is rotten
[28-Dec-15 1:52:00 PM] Kali 666: they take a bite and they can verify that in fact it is rotten
[28-Dec-15 1:52:13 PM] Kali 666: but you want them to take their time and eat it slowly and eat it all
[28-Dec-15 1:52:25 PM] Kali 666: just to convince them that the apple is already rotten
[28-Dec-15 1:52:40 PM] Kali 666: thing is...the person already KNOWS that it is
[28-Dec-15 1:52:45 PM] Kali 666: then what?
[28-Dec-15 1:52:50 PM] raxnae: one bad apple spoils the bunch
[28-Dec-15 1:53:17 PM | Edited 1:54:22 PM] Kali 666: yes but you have it in your hand...in your face and you see it and you already despise what you see
[28-Dec-15 1:53:34 PM] Kali 666: and your mind is set already that what you face in front of you is evil
[28-Dec-15 1:53:38 PM] Kali 666: you are already convinced
[28-Dec-15 1:53:42 PM] Kali 666: why more?
[28-Dec-15 1:53:50 PM] Kali 666: why more to the same person?
[28-Dec-15 1:54:11 PM] raxnae: because if one good man fails to act when evil is going on, then we are doomed
[28-Dec-15 1:54:41 PM] raxnae: to paraphrase a popular quote
[28-Dec-15 1:54:52 PM] Kali 666: so you expect each person that you convince ....virtually...to .go out there and take action?
[28-Dec-15 1:55:02 PM] Kali 666: how?
[28-Dec-15 1:55:11 PM] Kali 666: to take arms against islam?
[28-Dec-15 1:55:17 PM | Edited 1:55:20 PM] Kali 666: will you Rax?
[28-Dec-15 1:55:27 PM] raxnae: I already did and have and still am
[28-Dec-15 1:55:46 PM] Kali 666: will you go kill if it comes to that?
[28-Dec-15 1:56:14 PM] raxnae: I am not inclined to kill in blood but rather in thought
[28-Dec-15 1:56:22 PM] Kali 666: will you join Tony and go kill Islamists?
[28-Dec-15 1:56:24 PM] raxnae: a revolution of the mind
[28-Dec-15 1:56:46 PM] raxnae: to "kill an islamist" can simply mean to free them from Islam's idea
[28-Dec-15 1:56:48 PM] Kali 666: and how will you do that on the virtual world?
[28-Dec-15 1:57:07 PM] Kali 666: and how do you suppose you will achieve that?
[28-Dec-15 1:57:23 PM] Kali 666: by showing the muslims how wrong they are?
[28-Dec-15 1:57:30 PM] Kali 666: and how right you are?
[28-Dec-15 1:57:37 PM] Kali 666: do you thik they will listen to you?
[28-Dec-15 1:58:02 PM] raxnae: not at first, but eventually the snowball becomes an avalanche
[28-Dec-15 1:58:34 PM] Kali 666: you mean you have grasped Tony's idea of a "revolution of the mind"
[28-Dec-15 1:58:36 PM] Kali 666: right?
[28-Dec-15 1:58:50 PM] Kali 666: you want then to help incept people with an idea
[28-Dec-15 1:58:53 PM] Kali 666: yes?
[28-Dec-15 1:59:13 PM] raxnae: just throwin seeds over my shoulder as a past time activity
[28-Dec-15 1:59:24 PM] raxnae: whilst the rest of the world blindly goes about the rat race
[28-Dec-15 1:59:27 PM] raxnae: why care?
[28-Dec-15 1:59:36 PM] raxnae: because I do thats all that matters to me
[28-Dec-15 1:59:51 PM] Kali 666: yeah what you do matters to you ofc
[28-Dec-15 2:00:09 PM] Kali 666: Tony is definitely on a mission here
[28-Dec-15 2:00:21 PM] Kali 666: he has said it himself...no need to quote him directly
[28-Dec-15 2:00:38 PM] Kali 666: although the quote is forever stamped here on Skype history
[28-Dec-15 2:01:13 PM] Kali 666: a mission that he says himself has just come upon realizing fairly recently
[28-Dec-15 2:01:37 PM] Kali 666: due to the turn of events and a certain video he watched of a university gathering
[28-Dec-15 2:01:41 PM] raxnae: it does not matter when one realizes the truth, it is the merit of the realization itself that counts most
[28-Dec-15 2:02:16 PM] Kali 666: yes...i realize many truths also...and so do many other millions of people throughout the world Rax
[28-Dec-15 2:02:54 PM | Edited 2:03:06 PM] Kali 666: but that new realization of his has turned Thuban into a "new machine" now
[28-Dec-15 2:03:35 PM] raxnae: as per predictions of your very own timeline
[28-Dec-15 2:03:40 PM] Kali 666: and this is what is troubling to me
[28-Dec-15 2:03:54 PM] Kali 666: my own timeline?
[28-Dec-15 2:04:05 PM] Kali 666: you mean Tony's timeline right?
[28-Dec-15 2:04:22 PM] Kali 666: you are referring to the charts he makes?
[28-Dec-15 2:04:28 PM] raxnae: you mean the one you followed for years but now somehow can't stomache?
[28-Dec-15 2:04:42 PM] Kali 666: i can and do read them
[28-Dec-15 2:05:03 PM] Kali 666: in detail...i like to spend my time looking into them...always have
[28-Dec-15 2:05:30 PM] Kali 666: as i like to look into many other things i find interesting in detail
[28-Dec-15 2:06:10 PM] Kali 666: so i do not know where you get this that "i cannot stomache" it
[28-Dec-15 2:06:34 PM] raxnae: because it predicted this very new machine you are bringing to the surface
[28-Dec-15 2:06:44 PM] Kali 666: i am telling you that these charts...these many timelines ARE and have always been Tony's
[28-Dec-15 2:06:55 PM] raxnae: even if at the time you did not realize it
[28-Dec-15 2:07:32 PM | Edited 2:08:03 PM] Kali 666: or it could also be, that the new machine was created exactly to appear inside the timeline
[28-Dec-15 2:07:51 PM] Kali 666: purposefully
[28-Dec-15 2:09:19 PM] raxnae: lets put on our tin foil hats here for just a moment, just a moment, its all a jewish conspiracy, zionists et all planted the one known as Tony to engage a specific kind of war against Islam for what?...........?Profit yes!
[28-Dec-15 2:10:14 PM] Kali 666: the modus operandi is nothing new
[28-Dec-15 2:10:19 PM] Kali 666: the purpose is
[28-Dec-15 2:10:29 PM | Edited 2:10:34 PM] Kali 666: the ultimate goal
[28-Dec-15 2:11:14 PM] Kali 666: when i first looked into Thuban and became enamoured with it as an idea...i looked at the altruistic purpose
[28-Dec-15 2:11:18 PM] Kali 666: it sold
[28-Dec-15 2:11:26 PM] Kali 666: the ultimate goal
[28-Dec-15 2:11:49 PM] Kali 666: you can ask the rest of the Thubans aside Tony and Raven what that was
[28-Dec-15 2:12:16 PM] Kali 666: the "working together" part....never worked
[28-Dec-15 2:12:29 PM] Kali 666: but that does NOT mean that it could not have
[28-Dec-15 2:12:47 PM] Kali 666: i am sure that it could have worked and wonderfully
[28-Dec-15 2:13:13 PM] Kali 666: but NOT under the mandate of one single person
[28-Dec-15 2:14:05 PM] raxnae: so what is it, do you blame the messenger or the message?
[28-Dec-15 2:14:05 PM] Kali 666: ther ewas even a time when Tony kept repeating that Thuban was going to be passed on to the femmes to guide
[28-Dec-15 2:14:20 PM] Kali 666: the messager made the message
[28-Dec-15 2:14:47 PM] Kali 666: just as he says mohammed made the Koran up
[28-Dec-15 2:15:06 PM] raxnae: actually he says mohammed never existed
[28-Dec-15 2:15:11 PM] Kali 666: what was Thuban if not Tony's "downloads"?
[28-Dec-15 2:15:25 PM] Kali 666: i am saying that it has metamorphosized into this
[28-Dec-15 2:16:11 PM] Kali 666: it has not transmuted into anything, it has only transfomed from one idea into another
[28-Dec-15 2:16:56 PM] Kali 666: what is to say than a few months from now all of a sudden he will feel that something else is the new enemy? then what?
[28-Dec-15 2:17:16 PM] raxnae: nothing can transmute without a philosopher's stone, and that can only be found by changing ideas until you find the idea that supercedes all other ideas and answers the sum of all things
[28-Dec-15 2:18:18 PM] Kali 666: i said forcefully feeding people something that they are not ready to hear is but a futile attempt to try to change their hearts
[28-Dec-15 2:18:38 PM] Kali 666: specially when it comes to muslims and their beliefs
[28-Dec-15 2:18:49 PM] raxnae: right now the world is very obvious to anyone with an eye to see, Islam is like Surtur's Fire threatening to engulf the entire world, the only thing that can stop it is by changing and redefining Islam as an idea
[28-Dec-15 2:20:13 PM] raxnae: do the mosulmen want war or peace? they speak out of both sides of their mouth, serpent tongued, it will end in war or peace as all things do. war.........war never changes
[28-Dec-15 2:20:37 PM] Kali 666: war is already happening
[28-Dec-15 2:20:46 PM] Kali 666: it will not "end up in"
[28-Dec-15 2:20:51 PM] Kali 666: it is already happening
[28-Dec-15 2:21:12 PM] Kali 666: people die and we do not find out
[28-Dec-15 2:21:14 PM] Kali 666: why is that?
[28-Dec-15 2:21:24 PM] Kali 666: who controls the media?
[28-Dec-15 2:21:45 PM] Kali 666: the same media that is painting the muslims as the new antichrist
[28-Dec-15 2:21:55 PM] Kali 666: is that new?
[28-Dec-15 2:22:00 PM] Kali 666: who were blamed for 911?
[28-Dec-15 2:22:18 PM] Kali 666: so Thuban is going to help with that rethoric?
[28-Dec-15 2:24:14 PM] Kali 666: [Thuban as a group], the name that it implies, the weight that it carries....IT is going to help spread that propaganda?
[28-Dec-15 2:25:12 PM] Kali 666: you write the word Thuban in something, it automatically implies a group of people.....NOT one man.
[28-Dec-15 2:25:31 PM] Kali 666: who is at the helm of this machine?
[28-Dec-15 2:26:34 PM] Kali 666:
These are questions I raise.
[28-Dec-15 2:26:52 PM] Kali 666: to be considered by ALL.
[28-Dec-15 2:28:24 PM] Kali 666:
and it does NOT mean i have "islamiphilia" or whatever made up label Tony loves to attach to me, not in the least
[28-Dec-15 2:29:32 PM] Kali 666: i am not an islam lover nor am i a jew lover or whatever
[28-Dec-15 2:29:50 PM] Kali 666: and i REFUSE to "take sides" in the ways IMPOSED onto me by another
[28-Dec-15 2:30:11 PM] raxnae: if you think my side was imposed you are sorely mistaken
[28-Dec-15 2:30:20 PM] Kali 666: i simply have my OWN mind and i raise questions
[28-Dec-15 2:30:43 PM] raxnae: I've known for years the evils of Islam but lacked the will to fight it but now I have a will and a way and I will follow it to my grave
[28-Dec-15 2:30:44 PM] Kali 666: No Brandon...not by you. It was Tony the one who said sides needed to be taken
[28-Dec-15 2:31:01 PM | Edited 2:31:22 PM] Kali 666: and he said that merely because he felt he needed to do so himself
[28-Dec-15 2:31:26 PM] raxnae: no I have hated Islam ever since it first broke my heart way before Thuban even existed
[28-Dec-15 2:32:10 PM] Kali 666: we all have our very own experiences...but imagine those who only had good experiences with it
[28-Dec-15 2:32:21 PM] Kali 666: what about them?
[28-Dec-15 2:32:32 PM] raxnae: I had good experiences with it as well
[28-Dec-15 2:32:45 PM] Kali 666: as have i
[28-Dec-15 2:33:37 PM] raxnae: I read a book called "The Alchemist" where the boy goes to the land of Moors from Spain and falls in love with a muslim girl who will wait for him until he finishes his quest, the only problem is that in reality Islam does not allow its women to marry outside their religion
[28-Dec-15 2:33:58 PM] Kali 666: and yet some do
[28-Dec-15 2:34:06 PM] Kali 666: did you know that?
[28-Dec-15 2:34:10 PM] raxnae: and are called apostates and hunted
[28-Dec-15 2:34:17 PM] Kali 666: nope
[28-Dec-15 2:34:29 PM] Kali 666: not if their family does not practice
[28-Dec-15 2:34:34 PM] raxnae: unless they live somewhere they can't be attacked so easily
[28-Dec-15 2:34:52 PM] Kali 666: there are millions upon millions of people Brandon who are only religious just for show
[28-Dec-15 2:35:03 PM] Kali 666: even in my own country
[28-Dec-15 2:35:38 PM] Kali 666: the problem begins when you begin to beLIEve that ALL people are a certain way
[28-Dec-15 2:35:48 PM] Kali 666: then you run into trouble
[28-Dec-15 2:36:11 PM] raxnae: when did I say all people are the same?
[28-Dec-15 2:36:21 PM] Kali 666: not all muslim countries are the same...no matter how much the US mainstream media may want to sell that idea
[28-Dec-15 2:36:32 PM] raxnae: Islam as an idea is what is the same as it has been for a thousand years
[28-Dec-15 2:36:49 PM] raxnae: the US media kisses Islam's ass or are you blind?
[28-Dec-15 2:37:58 PM | Edited 2:38:21 PM] Kali 666: their customes are different, their dress, their languages are different, their political affiliations, as is ther way of worship too...even within the same "islamic" blanket religion
[28-Dec-15 2:38:47 PM | Edited 2:39:02 PM] raxnae: all Islam bows to the Caliphate, as long as there is a Caliphate Islam is the same fucking pox riddled blanket
[28-Dec-15 2:39:05 PM] Kali 666: not even the people within the same family unit can be considered the same...imagine labeling all muslim countries
[28-Dec-15 2:40:01 PM] raxnae: what do you know of war Xeia? I've been in it literally I know WAR
[28-Dec-15 2:40:13 PM] Kali 666: people have the same wishes and hopes and dreams and sensitivities there just as here in this country as in South America and everywhere all around the world
[28-Dec-15 2:40:42 PM] raxnae: sure everyones all love and light until they pull that knife from their back
[28-Dec-15 2:40:55 PM] Kali 666: i don't need to be in a plane releasing bombs over people's heads in order to know the killing and the devastation happening in a war zone
[28-Dec-15 2:41:25 PM] Kali 666: do you believe now that i am pro war?
[28-Dec-15 2:41:36 PM] raxnae:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8yKTuvRmPE&list=PL9L-0A3IPmUMl9a1usiuUjy__-Bof-zia&index=70
this is my closing statement
[28-Dec-15 2:41:47 PM] Sirius 17: This is what you don't understand Xeia. Islam is a memeplex and a very dangerous one. Where is it we have ever said all Muslims are bad? It is a meme war and you are making it about the personal again. It is a mental war that involves everyone ok every human being. This memeplex called Islam you could very well say that it is the devil made manifest and real ok.
[28-Dec-15 2:42:10 PM] raxnae: exactly
[28-Dec-15 2:43:18 PM] Kali 666: what i made personal...Raven...is the fact that you began to make up things like me having a chat with other Thubans and that you were not invited
[28-Dec-15 2:43:39 PM] Kali 666: i made it personal when you agreed with Tony that for that reason, "I canot be trusted"
[28-Dec-15 2:44:14 PM] Kali 666: i made personal the personal things you and Tony love to say about me personally
[28-Dec-15 2:44:28 PM] Sirius 17: i didn't make that up, it is something i thought could be occuring, when we are in a chat with you and you don't speak in like 6 months or whatever i figured you must be talking to other people.
[28-Dec-15 2:44:30 PM] Kali 666: that is what i made personal
[28-Dec-15 2:45:11 PM] Kali 666: you "thought could be occurring"...cannot mask the vibes...the feelings you had at the time
[28-Dec-15 2:45:16 PM] Kali 666: even if i read it weeks after
[28-Dec-15 2:46:01 PM] Kali 666: no ofc not, and as a matter of fact, i also did not speak to Zaina for many months before that
[28-Dec-15 2:46:15 PM] Kali 666: why when she came online i went to say hi
[28-Dec-15 2:47:06 PM | Edited 2:47:12 PM] Kali 666: Asha i had spoken to her sporadically but it is also not like Tony or you think...and i have no clue as to why he says that i have been brainwashed by her or something
[28-Dec-15 2:47:48 PM] Sirius 17: Xeia your hostilities toward Tony and I have been clearly apparent to us for a few years now ok. So don't go pretending there hasn't been animosity towards us from you for a while now. Pretty much when you went down to Cancun with Rok the first time you became irrationally hostile towards us and anything Tony tried to help you with. Why do you think he went silent for so long, he was tired of dealing with you and Roks drama on a quite frequently daily basis and so he had enough, can you blame him? How many hours did we listen to you and try to help you and Rok see eye to eye and you blame Tony for what exactly now??? It is Tony's fault? Really?
[28-Dec-15 2:47:59 PM] Kali 666: this childish attitude of: "you cannot be the friend of my sworn enemy" has gotten pretty ridiculous
[28-Dec-15 2:48:28 PM] Kali 666: my "hostilities" as you call them are not new
[28-Dec-15 2:48:48 PM] Kali 666: as i have always brought QUESTIONS into the table
[28-Dec-15 2:48:52 PM] Sirius 17: well you still have yet to take responsibility for your own mind and somehow it is all our fault?
[28-Dec-15 2:49:08 PM] Kali 666: and if i had something, anything to say to you, i said it straight up
[28-Dec-15 2:49:24 PM] Sirius 17: right likewise
[28-Dec-15 2:49:34 PM] Sirius 17: why we continually added you into our discussions ect
[28-Dec-15 2:49:43 PM] Sirius 17: but we are such bastards for that i guess
[28-Dec-15 2:49:45 PM] Kali 666: i never went inventing things out of thin air just because of suppositions
[28-Dec-15 2:49:57 PM] Kali 666: what discussions?
[28-Dec-15 2:50:17 PM] Kali 666: the only chat that Tony ever talked in was ABC and only Rok was there
[28-Dec-15 2:50:17 PM] Sirius 17: no one is inventing anything except your perceptions of Tony and I are rather purile
[28-Dec-15 2:50:26 PM] Kali 666: everything else you had on the side
[28-Dec-15 2:50:42 PM] Kali 666: and you never saw me complaining as to why you talk to other people in private without me
[28-Dec-15 2:50:50 PM] Kali 666: not perceptions
[28-Dec-15 2:50:55 PM] Sirius 17: sec i have a phone call
[28-Dec-15 2:50:57 PM] Kali 666: i put it right here for all to see
[28-Dec-15 2:52:02 PM] Kali 666: i do not make anything up, everything that i have ever brought to light has been as a result of basically Tony saying how "dissapointed" he is of me because of some whatever comment i made
[28-Dec-15 2:52:11 PM | Edited 2:52:15 PM] Kali 666: but you know what? he is not my father
[28-Dec-15 2:52:34 PM] Kali 666: i do not have to care if he dislikes me or not
[28-Dec-15 2:52:38 PM] Kali 666: at least Rok is right on that
[28-Dec-15 2:59:45 PM] Sirius 17: sorry Carla is is going to fly out tomorrow to see my father in Utah
[28-Dec-15 2:59:54 PM] Sirius 17: they were calling to confirm the flight plans
[28-Dec-15 3:01:40 PM] Sirius 17: Tony's dissapointment in you is in how you constantly put things into the personal and can't seem to see things through an objective lens. At times when you misunderstand him so deeply that you make this whole thing about him or me for example and it isn't.
[28-Dec-15 3:02:04 PM] Sirius 17: you seem to think that you are the only one here with feelings
[28-Dec-15 3:02:04 PM] Kali 666: [Thursday, November 19, 2015 11:17 AM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< [11:11:30 AM] ShilohaPlace: Moa was simply another library for Thuban see
[11:11:43 AM] ShilohaPlace: we are not really welcome there just tolerated
[11:11:51 AM] raxnae: yeah I thought that was what you were leaning towards
[11:12:39 AM] ShilohaPlace: I dont know how xeia will react to my words but I am disappointed in her allegiance to this moron
[11:13:02 AM] ShilohaPlace: Raven is the only one fully with the Logos I might say
[11:13:05 AM] ShilohaPlace: there is noone else
[28-Dec-15 3:02:19 PM] Kali 666: yes i seem to be
[28-Dec-15 3:02:29 PM | Edited 3:02:35 PM] Kali 666: how do you explain this statement above?
[28-Dec-15 3:02:41 PM] Sirius 17: well that is how he feels i guess, what can i say? i don't tell him what to say
[28-Dec-15 3:02:58 PM] Kali 666: how many times has Tony said that he does not care for feelings or hurting other people's feelings?
[28-Dec-15 3:03:39 PM] Kali 666: seems he is interested in human "allegiances" ofc created in HIS mind, because i have NO allegiance to Asha
[28-Dec-15 3:03:57 PM] Kali 666: so much for not caring about 'human feelings'
[28-Dec-15 3:04:33 PM] Sirius 17: well he really doesn't, but at the same time he is very cognizant of the fact that peoples feelings do get hurt. It is not his job to consider feelings too much though but to do the work he does for the Logos. He has often said no one has to agree with him or read or follow his work. But then if you do at least try to understand where he is coming from.
[28-Dec-15 3:07:16 PM] Kali 666: in teh beginning it was all about loyalty for Thuban when it was banned (as a group) from Avalon, and camaraderie and friendship and love between us, and now, just because HE decided to change over the years, due to his own personal frustrations with Mary and ultimately with Debra, all of a sudden him or "Thuban" has turned into the machine who does not care for "human feelings", in fact it rejects them as if it was something negative
[28-Dec-15 3:07:27 PM] Kali 666: that is NOT integration
[28-Dec-15 3:07:30 PM] Kali 666: that is rejection
[28-Dec-15 3:07:33 PM] Sirius 17: Asha is full of shit and always has been incase you haven't noticed or decerned. Her entire monologue is pure self agrandizment and completely fabricated, even down to the names she chooses for herself ect. What Tony can't understand is how anyone would or could engage with her or buy into her BS. So when he sees you making smiley faces at her and agreeing with her crap yeah i guess it kind of pisses him off as he thought you had better decernment skills then to fall for her line of shit.
[28-Dec-15 3:08:38 PM] Kali 666: that is his problem not mine
[28-Dec-15 3:08:48 PM] Sirius 17: by human emotions he means ones like, jealousy, hatred, envy, vanity, ect ok
[28-Dec-15 3:08:55 PM] Kali 666: just because he hates her, that doesn't mean that i have to also
[28-Dec-15 3:08:58 PM] Sirius 17: those he rejects because they disallow the cosmic
[28-Dec-15 3:09:15 PM] Sirius 17: he doesn't hate Asha, see you totally misunderstand him Xeia
[28-Dec-15 3:09:24 PM] Kali 666: oh and you see none of those feelings in the excerpt i pasted above between you two?
[28-Dec-15 3:09:32 PM] Sirius 17: he can't stand her fucked cosmology and philosophy and sees it for what it is, total BS
[28-Dec-15 3:09:50 PM] Sirius 17: just like he can't stand NABS crap either, it is disinfo and not really helping anyone
[28-Dec-15 3:09:59 PM] Sirius 17: Ashas philosophy only helps Asha ok
[28-Dec-15 3:10:12 PM] Kali 666: of course he hates her...with a PASSION. He can't stand her!! So much so that he is calling her exRoger now
[28-Dec-15 3:10:25 PM] Kali 666: but that is his hatred
[28-Dec-15 3:10:34 PM] Kali 666: it should not be made into a Thuban one
[28-Dec-15 3:10:36 PM] Sirius 17: no it is calling a spade a spade
[28-Dec-15 3:10:46 PM] Sirius 17: did you look at all the names she called him?
[28-Dec-15 3:10:55 PM] Sirius 17: fucking pig facist mother fucker ect
[28-Dec-15 3:11:06 PM] Sirius 17: but if she says it is somehow ok?
[28-Dec-15 3:11:14 PM] Kali 666: is it?
[28-Dec-15 3:11:21 PM | Edited 3:11:34 PM] Sirius 17: does he care is what you should ask
[28-Dec-15 3:11:23 PM] Kali 666: you think it is?
[28-Dec-15 3:11:41 PM] Kali 666: yes he always says that. that he does not care for what people think of him
[28-Dec-15 3:11:49 PM] Kali 666: but then that is not entirely true either is it?
[28-Dec-15 3:12:13 PM] Sirius 17: let me tell you something, even after calling him every fucking name in the book and under the sun you know what Tony did for Asha as a gesture of his true intent and feelings for her?
[28-Dec-15 3:12:21 PM | Edited 3:15:33 PM] Kali 666: if he truly did not care, then he would forgive and forget as Brandon says and would continue on
[28-Dec-15 3:12:22 PM] Sirius 17: he did her Astro chart
[28-Dec-15 3:12:42 PM] Sirius 17: come on Xeia, stop making this personal
[28-Dec-15 3:13:52 PM] Sirius 17: you think he has not forgiven Asha? He refuses her fucked ideology but as far as a person goes he is ok with her. but he doesn't have to listen to her bs if he chooses, just like you left chats before right?
[28-Dec-15 3:13:53 PM] raxnae: well good night ladies, I'll let you two figure it out from here I merely did my part to defend my reasoning and stance as being my personal choice rather than some brainwashed bs, time for me to deal with whatever demon is caught in my dreamcatcher doll this night haha
[28-Dec-15 3:14:19 PM] Sirius 17: yes goodnight rax
[28-Dec-15 3:14:24 PM] Sirius 17: sweet dreams
[28-Dec-15 3:14:34 PM] raxnae: night Raven you too when you get to bed
[28-Dec-15 3:14:41 PM] raxnae: night Xeia same to you
[28-Dec-15 3:14:43 PM] Kali 666: rest well Brandon
[28-Dec-15 3:16:20 PM] Sirius 17: what has Asha ever done for Tony except call him a fucking chair farting facist and to fuck off? ask yourself what the hell happened to Asha's mind to say these things to him?
[28-Dec-15 3:17:20 PM] *** Sirius 17 sent astroasha.jpg ***
[28-Dec-15 3:18:07 PM] Sirius 17: now look at the date on that and see when he did it
[28-Dec-15 3:18:30 PM] Sirius 17: finished the day after her birthday
[28-Dec-15 3:18:35 PM] Sirius 17: so some fucking asshole he is
[28-Dec-15 3:18:39 PM] Sirius 17: right
[28-Dec-15 3:19:04 PM] Kali 666: why do you call him that?
[28-Dec-15 3:19:09 PM] Sirius 17: who does that, makes someone an astrology chart, which takes hours btw for someone whos guts they hate?
[28-Dec-15 3:19:11 PM] Kali 666: why are your projections so ugly?
[28-Dec-15 3:19:22 PM] Sirius 17: because that is what your painting him as
[28-Dec-15 3:19:36 PM] Sirius 17: Asha called him worse incase you didn't notice
[28-Dec-15 3:20:03 PM] Kali 666: I am painting him? HOW?!?? by bringing to light what HE has said himself?
[28-Dec-15 3:20:18 PM] Sirius 17: Tony knows that I dont consider him an asshole ok, he has zero problem with my words
[28-Dec-15 3:20:37 PM] Kali 666: ofc he knows that
[28-Dec-15 3:20:58 PM | Edited 3:21:08 PM] Kali 666: the point i am trying to make is that YOU are the one trying so HARD to make it sound as if i am
[28-Dec-15 3:21:22 PM] Sirius 17: but you are making him out to be somekind of asshole saying what you said above? That is all i am saying. That suddenly because you think you have him all figured out that it is HIS way or the highway .
[28-Dec-15 3:21:25 PM] Kali 666: by projecting YOUR version of things onto me
[28-Dec-15 3:21:29 PM] Sirius 17: right
[28-Dec-15 3:21:35 PM] Kali 666: you do
[28-Dec-15 3:21:38 PM] Kali 666: you have always done this
[28-Dec-15 3:21:47 PM] Kali 666: you are an expert on it by now
[28-Dec-15 3:22:20 PM] Kali 666: always trying to make it sound ten times worse
[28-Dec-15 3:22:23 PM] Sirius 17: sure its all my fault Xeia, again don't take any responsibility for your own words
[28-Dec-15 3:22:36 PM] Kali 666: always implanting ideas and notions onto people
[28-Dec-15 3:23:13 PM] Kali 666: i do take responsibility for mine, but whenever i confront him or you on yours, you do not look at it
[28-Dec-15 3:23:41 PM] Kali 666: it is always us who are at fault of not seeing the Logos truth or some whatever
[28-Dec-15 3:24:01 PM] Sirius 17: you cannot reason with the unreasonable Xeia
[28-Dec-15 3:24:15 PM] Sirius 17: and your emotionality and mindset is unreasonable
[28-Dec-15 3:24:37 PM] Sirius 17: i am not the one filled with hostility and neither is Tony and we never have been
[28-Dec-15 3:24:51 PM] Sirius 17: you have been projecting your own fears and feelings onto us
[28-Dec-15 3:24:53 PM] Kali 666: yes you two are and have always been
[28-Dec-15 3:25:19 PM] Kali 666: my only fear as far as Thuban is concerned i already wrote here for all to see
[28-Dec-15 3:25:44 PM] Kali 666: i try to bring it up because i see it turning into something ugly
[28-Dec-15 3:26:09 PM] Sirius 17: this is your own perception of us and no matter how much we tell you it is not true you continue to point out how terrible we are and inconsiderate and whatever else you think.
[28-Dec-15 3:26:33 PM] Kali 666: many Thubans themselves may not care as they are too burdened with their 3d lives atm maybe but i care since associations have already been made since a long time ago
[28-Dec-15 3:26:55 PM] Kali 666: then we were told Thuban was basically over, only to see for ourselves that that wasn't it at all
[28-Dec-15 3:27:11 PM] Sirius 17: well then disassociate yourself from Thuban if you are so concerned with tarnishing your own precious image Xeia. This is your choice you know. We are not being hostile, how have we been hostile to you?
[28-Dec-15 3:28:07 PM] Kali 666: anyone who calls me names and insults me is being hostile to me
[28-Dec-15 3:28:18 PM] Sirius 17: where did we call you names?
[28-Dec-15 3:28:31 PM | Edited 3:41:21 PM] Kali 666: Tony is being very hostile to me telling Brandon that i am not to be trusted
[28-Dec-15 3:28:39 PM] Kali 666: that is hostility
[28-Dec-15 3:29:11 PM] Kali 666: Tony has..all the time and i have pointed them out to him myself in person on the ABC chat, so do not act as if you do not know
[28-Dec-15 3:29:11 PM] Sirius 17: well maybe he actually feels you can't be trusted, i will let him answer that one
[28-Dec-15 3:29:32 PM] Kali 666: you second him on that
[28-Dec-15 3:29:39 PM] Kali 666: as you said nothing against it
[28-Dec-15 3:29:46 PM] Kali 666: in fact you agreed with him
[28-Dec-15 3:30:10 PM] Kali 666: like i said making it sound as if i had this chat going on with them from a long time ago
[28-Dec-15 3:30:17 PM] Sirius 17: well you seem rather hostile to me
[28-Dec-15 3:30:52 PM] Kali 666: yes because you are feeling exactly the same as you put out...you will call it a mirror i am sure
[28-Dec-15 3:31:02 PM] Sirius 17: i said as far as i knew you were talking to each other away from Tony and I ok, not that you were, it was a guess on my part
[28-Dec-15 3:31:24 PM] Kali 666: do not pretend to treat me as some forum member and not a Thuban
[28-Dec-15 3:31:52 PM] Kali 666: i have been here since the beginning and i am as much a senior member of Thuban as you can be
[28-Dec-15 3:32:27 PM] Kali 666: your "guesses" are POISON
[28-Dec-15 3:33:52 PM] Sirius 17: and i drew my conclusions about this after i got out of the hosptial and then all of a sudden i am told by several people, including you that i must be possessed or something. i was told by Susan, then Fates ect that I was under or had put Tony under some kind of demonic spell. So it seemed to me that Susan or whoever might be talking about me behind my back, this is where i felt it from. Then when you didn't talk to me after i got out of the hosptial for months on end, i figured you must believe it yourself.
[28-Dec-15 3:34:43 PM] Sirius 17: now i don't know who started this thing that Raven is somehow possesed crap and i don't care
[28-Dec-15 3:34:47 PM | Edited 3:40:38 PM] Kali 666: keep with your 'guessing games'
[28-Dec-15 3:35:01 PM] Kali 666: instead of coming to me DIRECTLY and ASKING me
[28-Dec-15 3:35:09 PM] Sirius 17: i pretty much ignored it
[28-Dec-15 3:35:16 PM] Kali 666: which is what any civil person would have done
[28-Dec-15 3:35:37 PM] Kali 666: you decide to "guess" as you say...right...and then go and keep spreading poison about other people
[28-Dec-15 3:35:45 PM] Kali 666: bad karma for you Raven
[28-Dec-15 3:35:51 PM] Sirius 17: then when JT won't even talk to me for months either and everyone stopped talking to me like i had some disease.
[28-Dec-15 3:36:00 PM] Kali 666: so?
[28-Dec-15 3:36:05 PM] Kali 666: what do i have to do with JT?
[28-Dec-15 3:36:07 PM] Sirius 17: i have not spead any poison about anyone Xeia
[28-Dec-15 3:36:16 PM] Sirius 17: nothing
[28-Dec-15 3:36:54 PM] Kali 666: he is the one who all of a sudden "mysteriously" decided to block me and on facebook also thinking that i was his ex wife in disguise
[28-Dec-15 3:37:07 PM] Kali 666: or something like that
[28-Dec-15 3:37:14 PM] Sirius 17: i don't blame you for that, i am just saying from my perceptions and all of you were not talking to me anymore i figured you also must of agreed with them and had drawn conclusions about me and so i just went on
[28-Dec-15 3:37:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i got blocked on fb by you, susan and others
[28-Dec-15 3:37:51 PM] Sirius 17: first by you
[28-Dec-15 3:37:59 PM] Sirius 17: so what do i conclude from that?
[28-Dec-15 3:38:45 PM] Sirius 17: did i take it personal? yes at first i did, it hurt my feelings
[28-Dec-15 3:39:01 PM] Sirius 17: but then i allowed myself to see past the personal and just let it be
[28-Dec-15 3:40:40 PM] Sirius 17: so fyi for you and anyone else listening in here, i am very demonically possessed and so you should be afraid, be very afraid lol
[28-Dec-15 3:41:02 PM] Sirius 17: so you can all stop guessing now
[28-Dec-15 3:41:09 PM] Sirius 17: demon exposed
[28-Dec-15 3:41:12 PM] Sirius 17: happy?
[28-Dec-15 3:42:10 PM] Sirius 17: did anyone consider my feelings? do i have any?
[28-Dec-15 3:42:25 PM] Sirius 17: does it matter?
[28-Dec-15 3:57:18 PM] Sirius 17: [Monday, December 28, 2015 2:21 PM] Kali 666:
<<< who controls the media?
the same media that is painting the muslims as the new antichristand this is ignorance right here, it really doesn't matter what side of the media is saying this. It only matters if it is true or not, and can you or anyone else decern the truth. If you start to really look into this 'religion' called Islam and look at it objectively you will find that it is infact the antichrist and its manifestation into IS is also within the Thuban timeline and has been explained rather lucidly now by many, not just the media, but many other people and truth tellers have been saying it only it is falling on DEAF ears and has been for some time. The reason why is this thing called multiculturalism and this push to globalize and make everyone get along no matter their belief, culture or background. And this would work IF Islam were not a cult of death insistant on killing any and all non-believers.
[28-Dec-15 3:57:33 PM] Sirius 17: What is so difficult to understand here?
[28-Dec-15 3:58:30 PM] Sirius 17: has not Tony been saying all along that we are living in the end times?
[28-Dec-15 3:58:46 PM | Edited 3:58:55 PM] Sirius 17: and that this thing has to polarize to the max in order for events to change?
[28-Dec-15 3:59:05 PM] Sirius 17: he has not changed his message
[28-Dec-15 3:59:27 PM] Sirius 17: nor his stance on the falseness and ignorance that pervades our world
[28-Dec-15 4:00:09 PM] Sirius 17: the anti showed itself to Thuban yes in various people, it got exposed in individuals
[28-Dec-15 4:00:12 PM] Sirius 17: BUT
[28-Dec-15 4:00:22 PM] Sirius 17: now it is becoming exposed in the MANY
[28-Dec-15 4:00:44 PM] Sirius 17: and this is what IS has become
[28-Dec-15 4:00:53 PM] Sirius 17: the outward manifestation of true evil
[28-Dec-15 4:01:02 PM] Sirius 17: a real devil
[28-Dec-15 4:01:15 PM] Sirius 17: hellbent on killing anyone or anything that gets in its path
[28-Dec-15 4:01:28 PM] Sirius 17: including all of its believers if it has to
[28-Dec-15 4:01:54 PM] Sirius 17: look at IS, they are willing to sacrafice their very lives to this thing called Islam
[28-Dec-15 4:02:04 PM] Sirius 17: and its false prophet Muhammad
[28-Dec-15 4:02:17 PM] Sirius 17: it is NO joke
[28-Dec-15 4:03:05 PM] Sirius 17: so maybe you can see that prophecy is being fulfilled before your very eyes
[28-Dec-15 4:03:13 PM] Sirius 17: and it isn't personal
[28-Dec-15 4:03:17 PM] Sirius 17: this is global Xeia
[28-Dec-15 4:03:21 PM] Sirius 17: it effects us all
[28-Dec-15 4:03:51 PM] Brook Schiner: There's something wrong with the world today
I don't know what it is
Something's wrong with our eyes
We're seeing things in a different way
And god knows it ain't his
It sure ain't no surprise
[28-Dec-15 4:04:05 PM] Brook Schiner:
View: https://youtu.be/7nqcL0mjMjw

[28-Dec-15 4:05:50 PM] Sirius 17: lol sexy beast Steven
[28-Dec-15 4:05:55 PM] Sirius 17: good song
[28-Dec-15 4:05:57 PM] Brook Schiner: yep
[28-Dec-15 4:08:46 PM] Brook Schiner: Tell me what you think about our situation
Complication - aggravation
Is getting to you
If chicken little tells you that the sky is fallin'
Even if it wasn't would you still come crawling
Back again I bet you would my friend
[28-Dec-15 4:08:49 PM] Sirius 17: oh Brook you never did answer my question, maybe you missed it way above
[28-Dec-15 4:09:00 PM] Brook Schiner: What question?
[28-Dec-15 4:09:04 PM] Sirius 17: what is your assessment of BR and Pris
[28-Dec-15 4:09:12 PM] Sirius 17: who are they and where do they come from?
[28-Dec-15 4:10:05 PM] Brook Schiner: They're trolls just like I said...go look at her most recent posts ....I said....they would bury themselves....they don't need me to be discovered....it's happening right now....today...
[28-Dec-15 4:11:23 PM] Brook Schiner: Blue Smurfs....from the old Avalon....they think their ET/Avenging Angels....here to make sure the ...get this UNIVERSE gets destroyed with all of us so THEY can build anew one...I kid you not
[28-Dec-15 4:11:24 PM] Sirius 17: oh i am still stuck in this contact thread of theirs
[28-Dec-15 4:11:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i see some astrotheology and such mixed into their philosophy
[28-Dec-15 4:12:32 PM] Sirius 17: they do have a lot of interesting things to say but only a nabs mind would get sucked in by it
[28-Dec-15 4:12:44 PM] Brook Schiner: That
[28-Dec-15 4:12:45 PM] Sirius 17: when they mention the cabal controling things
[28-Dec-15 4:13:10 PM] Brook Schiner: that's the whole idea..to get sucked in...then get recruited...and cause chaos in the forums
[28-Dec-15 4:13:14 PM] Sirius 17: what they fail to realise is the cabal is everyone subconsciously contributing to the mass of archetypes and symbols
[28-Dec-15 4:13:22 PM] Sirius 17: they are everywhere yes
[28-Dec-15 4:13:32 PM] Sirius 17: and they can be read for those with eyes to see
[28-Dec-15 4:13:59 PM] Sirius 17: this cabal is like a logos double agent
[28-Dec-15 4:14:10 PM] Sirius 17: it is ourselves playing both the light and dark sides
[28-Dec-15 4:14:17 PM] Sirius 17: in this memewar
[28-Dec-15 4:14:54 PM] Sirius 17: so yes there are ptb and then there is the PTB lol
[28-Dec-15 4:15:10 PM] Sirius 17: so they are pretty easy to read as they exclude the real PTB
[28-Dec-15 4:15:14 PM] Sirius 17: the Logos
[28-Dec-15 4:15:26 PM] Sirius 17: anyone who hates Jesus gets disqualified
[28-Dec-15 4:15:27 PM] Sirius 17: period
[28-Dec-15 4:15:38 PM] Sirius 17: he is the gate keeper
[28-Dec-15 4:16:17 PM] Sirius 17: and this BR guy hates Jesus with a passion
[28-Dec-15 4:16:45 PM] Sirius 17: he is totally glorifying death and being disembodied
[28-Dec-15 4:16:52 PM] Sirius 17: very deceptive shit
[28-Dec-15 4:16:53 PM] Brook Schiner: Check this ....Carol just told her there ARE angels....Apparently BR has not told her that part yet...LOL
[28-Dec-15 4:16:57 PM] Brook Schiner: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t8545p240-the-holy-quran-experiment#118662
[28-Dec-15 4:16:58 PM] Sirius 17: it is exactly what Islam is doing
[28-Dec-15 4:18:28 PM] Brook Schiner: She is going to do herself in at the mists....at the expense of losing the Thubans ....is that something?
[28-Dec-15 4:18:39 PM] Brook Schiner: all by herself
[28-Dec-15 4:18:45 PM] Sirius 17: do we care
[28-Dec-15 4:18:59 PM] Brook Schiner: I know...but do you see the irony?
[28-Dec-15 4:19:16 PM] Sirius 17: no one read or replied or listend to our stuff for years, Carol made sure it was all chucked to the bottom of the forum
[28-Dec-15 4:19:37 PM] Brook Schiner: NO! NOT TRUE....lots of people read your posts!
[28-Dec-15 4:19:47 PM] Sirius 17: so i am surprised to see her defend Jesus, and religion ect
[28-Dec-15 4:20:06 PM] Brook Schiner: they may not have understood...Like BBB....but lot's of people read it.
[28-Dec-15 4:20:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes but who ever dared to reply ?
[28-Dec-15 4:20:16 PM] Brook Schiner: I did
[28-Dec-15 4:20:28 PM] Brook Schiner: I did
[28-Dec-15 4:20:33 PM] Brook Schiner: Several times
[28-Dec-15 4:21:05 PM] Sirius 17: i am not talking about you guys silly, i am talking about anyone outside coming in and speaking up, mostly we were attacked on that forum by many people
[28-Dec-15 4:21:24 PM | Edited 4:21:48 PM] Brook Schiner: Sometims I was a little snarky when I saw the chats with my name in them....but I also praised several posts as rock on!
[28-Dec-15 4:21:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes and this also pissed of many people
[28-Dec-15 4:21:51 PM] Sirius 17: including the Thuban group
[28-Dec-15 4:22:10 PM] Brook Schiner: Well...what did you expect?
[28-Dec-15 4:22:17 PM] Sirius 17: but this is how the Logos wants it and so it is how we roll
[28-Dec-15 4:22:36 PM] Sirius 17: because by exposing all of ourselves to the world it burns all human ego
[28-Dec-15 4:22:46 PM] Brook Schiner: Yeah...I kinda got that already...I may be a little dense at times..but I got it
[28-Dec-15 4:22:53 PM] Brook Schiner: lol
[28-Dec-15 4:22:56 PM] Sirius 17: you finally learn to get over yourself and insecurities and just be real see
[28-Dec-15 4:23:24 PM] Sirius 17: well it goes totally against most peoples idea of a good time
[28-Dec-15 4:23:27 PM] Brook Schiner: That's hard for most people because their very insecure
[28-Dec-15 4:23:31 PM] Sirius 17: they don't like being exposed and open and honest
[28-Dec-15 4:23:36 PM] Sirius 17: and this is what is wrong with the world
[28-Dec-15 4:23:40 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[28-Dec-15 4:23:46 PM] Brook Schiner: I know
[28-Dec-15 4:24:34 PM] Sirius 17: and so i know peoples feelings get hurt but in the end we all stand as one and learn to tolerate each other, this is what it is all about
[28-Dec-15 4:24:41 PM] Sirius 17: but at this point, the old world is toast
[28-Dec-15 4:24:45 PM] Sirius 17: kaput
[28-Dec-15 4:24:51 PM] Sirius 17: and so it is all burning
[28-Dec-15 4:24:57 PM] Brook Schiner: As I'm sure you've realized by now...I'm not insecure....LOL So I just roll with it when it happens....that's why when BR attacked me in such a cruel way I was able to brush it off
[28-Dec-15 4:25:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes you have grown as many here have
[28-Dec-15 4:25:35 PM] Sirius 17: grown out of your limited self absorbed human mind
[28-Dec-15 4:25:42 PM] Sirius 17: and into a cosmic one, inclusive
[28-Dec-15 4:25:46 PM] Sirius 17: and full of wisdom
[28-Dec-15 4:26:15 PM] Brook Schiner: God I hope so....it's been a ride and about time I'd say....
[28-Dec-15 4:26:35 PM] Sirius 17: oh well the ride isn't over
[28-Dec-15 4:26:44 PM] Brook Schiner: I know
[28-Dec-15 4:26:47 PM] Sirius 17: it is about to get really intense
[28-Dec-15 4:26:55 PM] Brook Schiner: yep
[28-Dec-15 4:27:03 PM] Sirius 17: it has to to crack the cosmic egg open
[28-Dec-15 4:27:22 PM] Sirius 17: to birth the new world
[28-Dec-15 4:27:34 PM] Sirius 17: out of this shithole we are in now
[28-Dec-15 4:27:47 PM] Brook Schiner: I got that from the posts you guys have been doing
[28-Dec-15 4:27:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes those evil Thubans lol
[28-Dec-15 4:28:18 PM] Sirius 17: reptilian dragon bastards
[28-Dec-15 4:28:18 PM] Brook Schiner: lol...you guys are decadent!
[28-Dec-15 4:28:43 PM] Sirius 17: it is kind of funny how people take symbols and names so personal
[28-Dec-15 4:28:54 PM] Sirius 17: like how they can't get over us calling ourselves dragons see
[28-Dec-15 4:28:55 PM] Brook Schiner: yes it is....
[28-Dec-15 4:29:09 PM] Sirius 17: Jesus is the master dragon of all
[28-Dec-15 4:29:15 PM] Sirius 17: Rainbow Serpent
[28-Dec-15 4:29:52 PM] Sirius 17: so the avatar is very very old and comes from the foundations of the earth, not some nabs forum that is afraid of reptiles lol
[28-Dec-15 4:30:16 PM] Brook Schiner: yeah ....I get that now. You know...many have a hard time understanding the writing you guys did. IT took me awhile to get.
[28-Dec-15 4:30:22 PM] Sirius 17: but can you see how the disinformation has spread so much idiotic fear and crap?
[28-Dec-15 4:30:33 PM] Sirius 17: now they are not even worried about Islam
[28-Dec-15 4:30:40 PM] Sirius 17: it is a huge deception
[28-Dec-15 4:30:43 PM] Brook Schiner: correct
[28-Dec-15 4:31:01 PM] Brook Schiner: those videos I posted showed that...
[28-Dec-15 4:31:08 PM] Sirius 17: Tony and I were decieved right along with many too
[28-Dec-15 4:31:33 PM] Sirius 17: thinking the leftests and green parties were somehow looking out for humanity
[28-Dec-15 4:31:47 PM] Sirius 17: not knowing all the while they had sold out to Islam
[28-Dec-15 4:31:51 PM] Brook Schiner: That is why I want Tony to see them...I hope thye don't get lost in the last conversation that just happened here
[28-Dec-15 4:32:01 PM] Sirius 17: no he will see them
[28-Dec-15 4:32:06 PM] Brook Schiner: good
[28-Dec-15 4:32:13 PM] Sirius 17: he back reads pretty carefully
[28-Dec-15 4:33:13 PM] Sirius 17: i mean who the hell would question the first black president of our nation if you were truly non racial and non biased
[28-Dec-15 4:33:29 PM] Sirius 17: no one who would vote for him that is for sure
[28-Dec-15 4:33:39 PM] Sirius 17: and so we all were had
[28-Dec-15 4:33:58 PM] Brook Schiner: ya know.....where was CAROL with that post when that thread blew up? Jesus is real....where was she? Masturbating?
[28-Dec-15 4:34:13 PM] Sirius 17: in trying to be politically correct good little americans welcoming all nationalities and races to our political houses
[28-Dec-15 4:34:32 PM] Sirius 17: lol we wish, she probably has not got laid in too long
[28-Dec-15 4:34:50 PM] Sirius 17: it might actually screw her head back on if she was getting fucked
[28-Dec-15 4:35:01 PM] Brook Schiner: I guess!
[28-Dec-15 4:35:25 PM] Sirius 17: Jesus was not some sexless being people had him made out to be lol
[28-Dec-15 4:35:32 PM] Sirius 17: this is also another huge deception
[28-Dec-15 4:35:55 PM] Sirius 17: this whole world is love starved
[28-Dec-15 4:36:15 PM] Sirius 17: and completely obsessed with sex, even the Muslims, just look at them and the 72 virgins shit
[28-Dec-15 4:36:15 PM] Brook Schiner: I can't wait to see Priss kiss Carols ass with that post! How the hell is she going to respond with a cat meme? lOL
[28-Dec-15 4:36:29 PM] Sirius 17: yeah another cat meme
[28-Dec-15 4:36:49 PM] Sirius 17: well carol told her she was perfectly safe
[28-Dec-15 4:36:54 PM] Sirius 17: would not be banned
[28-Dec-15 4:37:02 PM] Brook Schiner: several time
[28-Dec-15 4:37:09 PM] Sirius 17: so i dont know, she might test this water lol
[28-Dec-15 4:37:38 PM] Brook Schiner: It's like watching a comedy of errors
[28-Dec-15 4:37:46 PM] Sirius 17: it is
[28-Dec-15 4:38:04 PM] Sirius 17: meanwhile the truth gets sidetracked
[28-Dec-15 4:38:13 PM] Sirius 17: buried
[28-Dec-15 4:38:28 PM] Sirius 17: this is happening globally too not just on forums
[28-Dec-15 4:38:40 PM] Sirius 17: the truth has become the new hate speech
[28-Dec-15 4:38:50 PM] Brook Schiner: Well kiddo...I'm going to get to bed it's late....the truth will eventually come out...when it does there well be some people with their pants down around their knees....just watch
[28-Dec-15 4:39:10 PM] Sirius 17: yes there will be
[28-Dec-15 4:39:33 PM] Sirius 17: take care and have a good night Brook and thanks for sharing the stuff about John with us
[28-Dec-15 4:39:51 PM] Brook Schiner: You bet....have a good evening!
[28-Dec-15 4:40:00 PM] Sirius 17: i hope it helps Susan and anyone else dealing with a great loss
[28-Dec-15 4:40:10 PM] Sirius 17: you too
[28-Dec-15 4:40:43 PM] Brook Schiner: night now...
[28-Dec-15 6:35:37 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 1:32 PM] Kali 666:
<<< do you know i have a very nice painting my mother bought for me in the Alhambra of Spain, which has Arabic letters in it praising Allah hanging right on the wall in my living room?
Does THAT make me a terrorist Tony?It makes you 'caught' in the islamic memeplex xeia. Much of your other rantings are so far off track in being as 'judgemental' carrying insufficient information towards me and raaven as you accuse us to be
[28-Dec-15 6:36:52 PM | Edited 7:28:07 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 1:34 PM] Kali 666:
<<< do i have to completely HATE everything ever associated with the islamic culture in order to qualify for Logos salvation?Hate is the wrong expression but islam IS the antilogos and your wishy washy realisation as to what Logos and AntiLogos are, is at the core of your disappointments
[28-Dec-15 6:37:50 PM | Edited 7:28:25 PM] ShilohaPlace: Point is you ARE mentally compromised and find yourself between the truth and the falsity . And yes this is a statement and a judgement borne from valid observations
[28-Dec-15 6:41:16 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 1:37 PM] Kali 666:
<<< i know what the agenda is
in the mind of Tony
he has explained it himself
and he has also said, that he will do it alone if he has to
ofc he knows very well that is not true as he knows very well that Raven will too
and that is all fine
they have the right to go about their lives as they choose toAnd indeed we shall and the reason for this isolation and split from you are the WORDS of the Logos, which bith you and Rok despise or not take seriously. And this in a matter of fact becomes decisive and why i questionmed your Thubanness It is, again, NOTHING personal live and let live follow your own logos to your heart desire. But whatever YOUR logos then might be and entail i is NOT the same as the Logos of Thuban, albeit some parallel subject to approoximation
[28-Dec-15 6:43:24 PM] ShilohaPlace: You comopletely miss the meaning of individuation here. Individuation WITHIN the Unity of the Logos is not the same as individuation with every individual having its own and different Logos
[28-Dec-15 6:43:50 PM] ShilohaPlace: Logos Unification is The requirement for any New World to be born from the Old
[28-Dec-15 6:45:11 PM] ShilohaPlace: Islam is NOT a religion, it is supremacy politics. Are you too deaf and blind to examine facts - ask Rok But Rok would have to read the quran foirst before he should comment upon it
[28-Dec-15 6:46:53 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 1:56 PM] Kali 666:
<<< will you join Tony and go kill Islamists?What a dishonest statement indeed.
[28-Dec-15 6:48:07 PM | Edited 7:30:29 PM] ShilohaPlace: Muslims are as much victims of islam as are infidels. But as islam has hijacked the minds of muslims, they are in fear and trapped by this abominable ideology.
[28-Dec-15 6:49:21 PM] ShilohaPlace: Your analysis is fundamentally so erroneous, that it infers me going on a antiislam hate rampage, physically and mentally?
[28-Dec-15 6:49:40 PM] ShilohaPlace: You could not be more self deluded in your self righteousness
[28-Dec-15 6:50:56 PM] ShilohaPlace: The memeplex called Islam must be superceded and 'eaten' by a bigger memeplex - Logos authorized. But your general ignorance of not following or considering Thuban arguments and analysis speaks for itself
[28-Dec-15 6:56:36 PM | Edited 7:29:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 2:20 PM] Kali 666:
<<< war is already happening
it will not "end up in"
it is already happening
people die and we do not find out
why is that?
who controls the media?
the same media that is painting the muslims as the new antichristWhat rot? Why are the true spokespersons who try to tell the world what the ideology of islam is BANNED - from the UK? Pam Geller Robert Spencer Geert Wilders and more? The truth tellers are banned as islamophobes sponsored by the worldwide infiltration by the Muslim Brotherhood which is politically motivated and uses religiosity as a smokescreen. But yes Islam IS tje antiLogos antichrist you got this right. By the way muslims are not, islam is
[28-Dec-15 6:58:41 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 2:36 PM] Kali 666:
<<< not all muslim countries are the same...no matter how much the US mainstream media may want to sell that ideaYou are showing your anti zionist heart too the fullest, turning things upside down
[28-Dec-15 6:59:50 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 2:36 PM] raxnae:
<<< Islam as an idea is what is the same as it has been for a thousand years
the US media kisses Islam's ass or are you blind?The Us is politically infiltrated on all levels, fbi, cia, white house but still not as compromised as much of Europe even the heart of western civilization
[28-Dec-15 7:00:50 PM] ShilohaPlace: This is what you don't understand Xeia. Islam is a memeplex and a very dangerous one. Where is it we have ever said all Muslims are bad? It is a meme war and you are making it about the personal again. It is a mental war that involves everyone ok every human being. This memeplex called Islam you could very well say that it is the devil made manifest and real ok.
[2:42:10 PM] raxnae: exactly
[28-Dec-15 7:00:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: ditto
[28-Dec-15 7:03:44 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 2:50 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< no one is inventing anything except your perceptions of Tony and I are rather purileNot becoming a civilised human femme, but when the human mind is hijacked then the childishness appears
[28-Dec-15 7:04:55 PM] ShilohaPlace: [2:47:59 PM] Kali 666: this childish attitude of: "you cannot be the friend of my sworn enemy" has gotten pretty ridiculous - actually no, the sworn enemy of the Logos ZISthe antilogos and must be eliminated/absorbed. There is no win win in THIS instance
[28-Dec-15 7:10:57 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 3:24 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< you cannot reason with the unreasonable Xeia
and your emotionality and mindset is unreasonable
i am not the one filled with hostility and neither is Tony and we never have been
you have been projecting your own fears and feelings onto ustrue
[28-Dec-15 7:12:14 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 3:26 PM] Kali 666:
<<< many Thubans themselves may not care as they are too burdened with their 3d lives atm maybe but i care since associations have already been made since a long time ago
then we were told Thuban was basically over, only to see for ourselves that that wasn't it at allThuban is a 13/12d projection in to the 3/4D normal physical world Xeia
[28-Dec-15 7:12:36 PM] ShilohaPlace: Its director is the Logos NOT Tony, Raven or xeia
[28-Dec-15 7:14:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: Because Tony and Raven 'LOVE" and fully accept this Logos THROUGH its recorded WORDS and nothing else, except to be retranslated commentary, say historical contexts, timelines and science; a REAL THUBAN is a a FOLLOWER and FAMILY of THAT Logos and that Logos alone.
[28-Dec-15 7:15:00 PM] ShilohaPlace: So denying scriptural suppositions, such as the Physical resurrection automatically disqualifies ANYONE from being a true Thuban
[28-Dec-15 7:16:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: It is by YOUR Words and Thoughts you qualify or disqualify yurself gfrom being a Thuban Starhuman/ET and not by the words, statements or debates of any others
[28-Dec-15 7:17:27 PM | Edited 7:31:15 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 3:29 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< well maybe he actually feels you can't be trusted, i will let him answer that oneAnyone not in agreement with the Logos as per the scriptures, cannot be trusted!
[28-Dec-15 7:29:22 PM] Kali 666: you want to turn Thuban into a cult
[28-Dec-15 7:29:36 PM] Kali 666: and it was never supposed to be one
[28-Dec-15 7:30:03 PM] Kali 666: you never told us that we needed to agree with you in order to qualify as a Thuban
[28-Dec-15 7:30:28 PM] Kali 666: now you have turned into a whole different person
[28-Dec-15 7:31:00 PM] Kali 666: [Monday, December 28, 2015 6:42 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< and the reason for this isolation and split from you are the WORDS of the Logos, which bith you and Rok despise or not take seriously. And this in a matter of fact becomes decisive and why i questionmed your Thubanness It is, again, NOTHING personal live and let live follow your own logos to your heart desire. But whatever YOUR logos then might be and entail i is NOT the same as the Logos of Thuban
[28-Dec-15 7:31:10 PM] Kali 666: This is the heart of the matter right here
[28-Dec-15 7:31:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: It is
[28-Dec-15 7:31:53 PM] Kali 666: you are making it so that "the Logos of Thuban" = Tony's cosmology
[28-Dec-15 7:31:57 PM | Edited 7:33:18 PM] ShilohaPlace: There is ONE Logos and there are as many sublogi/worlds as there are individuals
[28-Dec-15 7:32:12 PM | Edited 7:33:33 PM] ShilohaPlace: No,it seems you cant read
[28-Dec-15 7:33:01 PM] ShilohaPlace: Tony is a messenger, one of many. A scribe and record keeper and a decoder and translatior. There is NOTHING personal whatsoever in this 'job'.
[28-Dec-15 7:34:14 PM] Kali 666: that is what you always say, but then you go around spreading statements such as this:
[28-Dec-15 7:34:16 PM] Kali 666: [Monday, December 28, 2015 6:42 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< But whatever YOUR logos then might be and entail i is NOT the same as the Logos of Thuban
[28-Dec-15 7:34:53 PM] Kali 666: so it comes down to, "if your Logos is not the same as my Logos then you are out"
[28-Dec-15 7:35:00 PM] ShilohaPlace: I am a little more aware of the POLITICAL deception, being very old World related, than say 6 years ago, when i was more naive and 'outer worldly'. My data base and basis has not changed at all
[28-Dec-15 7:35:34 PM] ShilohaPlace: You are free to have a sublogos as i am free to have a sublogos and those sublogii CAN indeed encompass the personal
[28-Dec-15 7:35:41 PM] Kali 666: so you are saying that you are not the same as you were 6 years ago when Thuban was created?
[28-Dec-15 7:35:46 PM] ShilohaPlace: The encompassing LOGOS is inviolable.
[28-Dec-15 7:35:57 PM] Kali 666: so since you have changed then Thuban must also change?
[28-Dec-15 7:36:08 PM] ShilohaPlace: You are either FOR it or you are AGAINST it. There are no other choices
[28-Dec-15 7:36:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: Thuban was created as an idea Xmas 2009
[28-Dec-15 7:36:38 PM | Edited 7:36:47 PM] Kali 666: BUt the problem is that you EQUAL yourself with the "encompassing Logos"
[28-Dec-15 7:36:56 PM] ShilohaPlace: If you read the statement first post i made a prediction, knowing very well that this was just a personal idea.
[28-Dec-15 7:37:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: I said that from January 18th, 2010 the universal logos would TAKE OVER nd enhance and validate the 'human idea'
[28-Dec-15 7:37:36 PM] Kali 666: and you are here deciding who is with it and who isn't
[28-Dec-15 7:37:40 PM] Kali 666: who is to trust and who isn't
[28-Dec-15 7:37:52 PM] Kali 666: and you seem to think that is all ok
[28-Dec-15 7:37:56 PM] ShilohaPlace: I did NOT expect anything to come from that. I expected the 'idea' to die or be just a little memeplex
[28-Dec-15 7:38:29 PM] Kali 666: whatever you expected is irrelevant as you soon were able to see what it quickly turned into
[28-Dec-15 7:38:46 PM] ShilohaPlace: Because Thuban took off then, including your participation, which i remember well; I realised that the CONTROL of Thuban was no longer in my jurispriudence.
[28-Dec-15 7:39:04 PM] Kali 666: people FOLLOWED you into a group, BUT this group was supposed to be VERY DIFFERENT than everything else that was ever 'out there'
[28-Dec-15 7:39:30 PM] ShilohaPlace: Your words aredriven by your human ego dear, and you are NOT listening to what i say.
[28-Dec-15 7:39:50 PM] Kali 666: that is what you always said also, that "it is not in your hands" and yet...things always seemed to revolve around you and your so called "downloads"
[28-Dec-15 7:40:12 PM] ShilohaPlace: I do not want to cuddle your human ego, it is very boring and as boring as Thuban Logos quotes must be to your human mindedness
[28-Dec-15 7:40:22 PM] Kali 666: i do listen...i listen very carefully and perhaps too closely for some to like
[28-Dec-15 7:40:50 PM] Kali 666: i do wonder what Rok thinks about all this
[28-Dec-15 7:40:50 PM | Edited 8:10:26 PM] ShilohaPlace: Go ahead Xeia and create your own cosmology and call it whatever you like. What i did at xmas 2009 this you can do also.
[28-Dec-15 7:41:24 PM] Kali 666: and you will continue to use the Thuban label in your new agendas?
[28-Dec-15 7:41:54 PM] Kali 666: can you not see than whenever you use that label, you are automatically using the name of all of us?
[28-Dec-15 7:42:11 PM | Edited 7:42:21 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 7:39 PM] Kali 666:
<<< people FOLLOWED you into a group, BUT this group was supposed to be VERY DIFFERENT than everything else that was ever 'out there'This is correct. But this difference can only be seen and evaluated if people actually consider the information.
[28-Dec-15 7:43:02 PM] Kali 666: Rok and I have considered the information...as i am sure other Thubans also
[28-Dec-15 7:43:07 PM | Edited 8:11:35 PM] ShilohaPlace: Briefly, a synthesis between what is called spirituality/religion with science and the ancienct scrolls CANNOT be found anywhere on this planet except the Thuban data base.
[28-Dec-15 7:43:42 PM] Kali 666: we consider and we question
[28-Dec-15 7:43:47 PM] ShilohaPlace: But to see this, one must be familiar with the global database somewhat. This is common sensical and logical
[28-Dec-15 7:44:06 PM | Edited 8:11:51 PM] ShilohaPlace: There is NO NEW AGENDA
[28-Dec-15 7:44:26 PM] Kali 666: [Monday, December 28, 2015 7:14 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< a REAL THUBAN is a a FOLLOWER and FAMILY of THAT Logos and that Logos alone.but we are not followers
[28-Dec-15 7:44:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: There is an evolving agenda, like an empty canvass as the basis becomes painted in
[28-Dec-15 7:44:34 PM] Kali 666: NOT followers
[28-Dec-15 7:44:35 PM] ShilohaPlace: I am
[28-Dec-15 7:44:38 PM] Kali 666: never followers
[28-Dec-15 7:44:42 PM] ShilohaPlace: I am
[28-Dec-15 7:45:23 PM | Edited 7:45:39 PM] ShilohaPlace: I follow the universal Logos whose bodyform IS the entire universe of space and time So I am subject to it in both mindform and in bodyform
[28-Dec-15 7:46:04 PM] ShilohaPlace: The 'unbeliever' in islam is mirrored in the 'unbeliever' in the Logos
[28-Dec-15 7:47:38 PM] Kali 666: you might be, but then what you do and say have to do with what your own cosmology is now, what it has turned into over the years; and not with what Thuban stood for in our beginnings
[28-Dec-15 7:47:42 PM | Edited 8:12:49 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 7:41 PM] Kali 666:
<<< can you not see than whenever you use that label, you are automatically using the name of all of us?Just because you defended the Thuban label in the past on more secular grounds, does not mean you need to continue association with Thuban if the metaphysical aspects of this label become contra your personal logos and logoistics
[28-Dec-15 7:48:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: You fail to see the agenda
[28-Dec-15 7:48:16 PM] Kali 666: [Monday, December 28, 2015 6:42 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< whatever YOUR logos then might be and entail i is NOT the same as the Logos of Thuban I can then easily turn this around and say to you that YOUR Logos is not the true Logos of Thuban
[28-Dec-15 7:48:20 PM] ShilohaPlace: it is NOT 'MY AGENDA'. It is the agenda encoded
[28-Dec-15 7:49:07 PM] Kali 666: your agenda now encompases actions that would not have been tolerated when you actually CONSIDERED other people's voices
[28-Dec-15 7:49:09 PM] ShilohaPlace: Perhaps you thought of Thuban as some personal cosmology from the start Xeia. You misunderstood
[28-Dec-15 7:49:22 PM] Kali 666: no, i did not
[28-Dec-15 7:49:34 PM] Kali 666: i took it as something of divine origin
[28-Dec-15 7:49:55 PM | Edited 8:13:33 PM] ShilohaPlace: Your personal wishes for the 1-1 romantic partnerships, we debated years ago as being a subplot and not the main plot for example
[28-Dec-15 7:50:00 PM] Kali 666: something that must not become spoiled by any one individual agenda of the moment
[28-Dec-15 7:50:16 PM | Edited 8:13:48 PM] ShilohaPlace: You keep confusing the Logos impersonal and the Logos personal
[28-Dec-15 7:50:44 PM] Kali 666: then perhaps you are the one who should consider choosing a different label for your newly-found stance
[28-Dec-15 7:50:46 PM] ShilohaPlace: Much of what you said is perfectly in order as a personal logos. our differences relate to the encompassment
[28-Dec-15 7:51:53 PM | Edited 8:14:26 PM] ShilohaPlace: I can then easily turn this around and say to you that YOUR Logos is not the true Logos of Thuban...Sure and i am stating now that YOUR Logos is not the Logos of Thuban. So it seems my Thuban is not your Thuban
[28-Dec-15 7:51:53 PM] Hades 88: [Monday, December 28, 2015 6:45 PM] ShilohaPlace:
<<< ask Rok But Rok would have to read the quran foirst before he should comment upon it
i am not really that much interested in "holy books", but if you open either of them, you will find atrocities, judgements, threats, questionable morals...etc Belief is a dangerous thing. Islam (and other religions) is problematic and we would all be better off without it, but it is here and it is being "accommodated" on a "equal rights" level, same goes for other religions
[28-Dec-15 7:52:34 PM] Kali 666: YOU Are the one who has turned Thuban into Tony's show
[28-Dec-15 7:52:50 PM] Kali 666: You are the one who has brough separation within Thuban
[28-Dec-15 7:53:02 PM] Kali 666: with all your judgements and hatred for certain members
[28-Dec-15 7:53:16 PM] ShilohaPlace: And this position is shared by many Rok, including all so called atheists. It has a great positive in the application of reason and rational thought. But it misses the raison de etre for the existence of anything
[28-Dec-15 7:53:40 PM] Kali 666: you have transformed it into something ugly that none of us ever thougth to be associated with
[28-Dec-15 7:54:00 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 7:52 PM] Kali 666:
<<< YOU Are the one who has turned Thuban into Tony's show
You are the one who has brough separation within Thuban
with all your judgements and hatred for certain membersThis is getting rather boring Xeia. Your repetitions of YOUR personal opinions
[28-Dec-15 7:54:37 PM] ShilohaPlace: I see the ugliness of your islamophilia Xeia and i also see your brainwashed mind
[28-Dec-15 7:54:52 PM] Kali 666: this has NOTHING to do with ISLAM
[28-Dec-15 7:54:56 PM] Kali 666: ZERO
[28-Dec-15 7:55:18 PM] ShilohaPlace: It has everything to do with the antilogos and the antilife memeplex
[28-Dec-15 7:55:21 PM] Kali 666: you only want to make it so in order to avoid looking at the issues i am bringing forth
[28-Dec-15 7:56:11 PM] ShilohaPlace: Your issues are humanocentric and are based on your emotional feelings of injustice and victimisations, just as the islam memeplex
[28-Dec-15 7:56:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: Ask a specific question and i will answer it
[28-Dec-15 7:56:29 PM] Kali 666: which is in fact your insistance on being the one who gets to decide who is Thuban and who is not, who is with Logos YOUR logos, and who is not
[28-Dec-15 7:57:01 PM] ShilohaPlace: Regarding your generalities read the mountains of expositions i posted over the years
[28-Dec-15 7:57:22 PM] Kali 666: and then you go out into the virtual world and post under the Thuban label and the world thinks it is the Thuban "bunch" who have all turned crazy
[28-Dec-15 7:57:56 PM | Edited 8:01:29 PM] ShilohaPlace: I observe anyone calling themselves Thuban (as I define it yes, FROM the codes) and then compare and check compatibility and affiliation.
[28-Dec-15 7:58:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: ALL of my statements regarding you and Rok or anyone BEING Thuban relates to this single criterion
[28-Dec-15 7:58:53 PM] ShilohaPlace: There never was or is ANY PERSONAL JUDGEMENT apart from being 'logos attuned' or not
[28-Dec-15 7:59:25 PM | Edited 8:16:45 PM] ShilohaPlace: As said again, your 'Thuban' might be a parallel. Go for it, create it whatever as your own New World
[28-Dec-15 7:59:55 PM] Kali 666: you should've come clean 6 YEARS AGO!!!
[28-Dec-15 8:00:10 PM | Edited 8:17:16 PM] ShilohaPlace: Simple LEAVE or disassociate yourself from this 'ugly thuban label'
[28-Dec-15 8:00:17 PM] Hades 88: [Monday, December 28, 2015 7:41 PM] Kali 666:
<<< i do wonder what Rok thinks about all this
well since you ask...it is boring and pointless. have i mentioned i did not ask to be here, quite contrary i specifically told you not to add me to yet another group chat? the russians are comming, not oh wait the muslims are comming, no oh wait the islamist are comming. yes, yes they are. hordes and hordes of uncontrolled meme induced/inflicted/infected bunch of them transitioning just 50 miles away from me. well actually not so much anymore atm, winter is coming or amm winter is here. bit warm though so far. that nasty global warming making people all upset since this is the 7th (i think) consecutive chrismats without any snow. a tragedy to behold, while here on sykpe there is yet another tragicomedy in its full swing. who is right, who is wrong...meet the today's contestants.... no really can you all people just go screw yourself?
on a more "serious" note...this arguing here is pointless. the pointed out differences were pointed out before this current point and were also just as pointless. the only thing different are the points. one point today, another point tomorrow. islam point atm...
time to let go?
[28-Dec-15 8:01:28 PM | Edited 8:01:58 PM] Kali 666: The honorable thing to do would be for you Tony to form a cult under your new auspices and agendas and give it a brand new name
[28-Dec-15 8:01:40 PM] Kali 666: and then seek followers under that label
[28-Dec-15 8:02:17 PM] ShilohaPlace: January 18th, 2010 decided this particular form of Thuban operating under the auspices of the Universal logos.
[28-Dec-15 8:02:28 PM] Kali 666: so that you won't have to drag us Thubans into what you are doing now or decide to do in the future
[28-Dec-15 8:02:38 PM] ShilohaPlace: Only Universal logos can change this label, not its messengers and testimony keepers.
[28-Dec-15 8:03:17 PM | Edited 8:03:58 PM] Kali 666: yes very conveniently said after everything has been built with OUR HELP!!
[28-Dec-15 8:03:20 PM] ShilohaPlace: Why do you insist of calling yourself a Thuban? You are not if you reject the codes
[28-Dec-15 8:04:57 PM | Edited 8:06:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: YOUR HELP was when you WERE a true Thuban, even if you did not make certain choices. You were nevertheless a Son Not prodigal. And the Prodigal son leaves the Homestead if you can remember this code.
[28-Dec-15 8:05:16 PM] ShilohaPlace: The Homestead does not change , the Son does make its cjhoices as you have done.
[28-Dec-15 8:05:51 PM] ShilohaPlace: Dont ask the father to change the homstead for the Son, but wish the Son well finding a new homestead.
[28-Dec-15 8:06:20 PM] Kali 666: of course you want me out
[28-Dec-15 8:06:25 PM | Edited 8:06:35 PM] Kali 666: i am the stone in your shoe
[28-Dec-15 8:06:29 PM] ShilohaPlace: Lol
[28-Dec-15 8:07:00 PM] ShilohaPlace: What does the Father do to the prodigal Son? can you remember?
[28-Dec-15 8:07:03 PM] Kali 666: i am the ONLY one who ever voiced her mind unafraid
[28-Dec-15 8:07:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: As said yesterday, you were an Amazone. Did you see that comment?
[28-Dec-15 8:07:38 PM] Kali 666: i see ALL comments
[28-Dec-15 8:08:01 PM] ShilohaPlace: So not all comments are critical of your dispositions.
[28-Dec-15 8:08:23 PM] Kali 666: i will go to sleep now
[28-Dec-15 8:08:42 PM] Kali 666: i do hope you "share" this convo on one of your posts Tony
[28-Dec-15 8:08:46 PM] ShilohaPlace: Rest well waterflyer!
[28-Dec-15 8:08:56 PM] Kali 666: Rok, i need to talk to you later
[28-Dec-15 8:09:00 PM] Kali 666: GN
[28-Dec-15 8:19:21 PM] ShilohaPlace: [Monday, December 28, 2015 8:01 PM] Kali 666:
<<< The honorable thing to do would be for you Tony to form a cult under your new auspices and agendas and give it a brand new name
and then seek followers under that labelWhat followers? Again I am the follower and dont look for followers. I might share the reasons as to why i am a follower of the Universal logos though. But this is fyi and no coercion. Just data sharing as raven said so many times as well.
[28-Dec-15 8:21:03 PM] ShilohaPlace: I post this convo on the banning thread
[28-Dec-15 8:21:10 PM] ShilohaPlace: with the videos
[28-Dec-15 8:24:03 PM] Hades 88: i am work here so i don't do very well with being responsive in a timely manner...
xeia if you think tony screwed up just tell him that, as in "tony, you are such a screw-up" and then let it go...or you can endlessly argue about it
me and thuban are on a break. a relationship kind of break. you are not as serious as you were before, yet you still meet and fuck from time to time...or however that actually goes...
but i expressed my feelings (dear me) about it some time ago...at about the same time when tony also stated he is DONE with it... when he renounced his ROLE...i also said things feel over for me as well
i do not feel i have to get anything back from it, or that i have to care or upset or in any way annoy or bother myself with what thuban is doing today or what thuban might be doing tomorrow, i do not feel entitled to a label, neither do i think anyone can own it...
whatever my past involvement in thuban it does not mean that whatever happens today is on me or that i am by no choice of mine a part of it
from the abstract point of view on what thuban is, was, what it might never have been and what it might become...that is a place where i will not go. you do not see eye to eye with thuban. i do not (no longer) see (bother with) thuban at all and do not see eye to eye with you xeia. but that is not news, should not be news at all.
[28-Dec-15 8:27:01 PM] Hades 88:
and to add a bit about islam and its bright insights...why stop there...why not fucking destroy (in all ways and meanings possible) every fucked up religion that ever infected the minds of men (and women)
[28-Dec-15 8:27:17 PM | Edited 8:27:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: This is actually the agenda Rok
[28-Dec-15 8:27:48 PM] Hades 88: but this means christan too...and its saviour and everything he said
[28-Dec-15 8:28:19 PM] Hades 88: this prophet, that prophet....just burn them all
[28-Dec-15 8:28:49 PM] ShilohaPlace: There will be a New Book and this book is encoded as a '3rd Testament' or 'Boojk of LKife' which will do away with all false images, including fake sceience and fa;lse spirituality, including religion
[28-Dec-15 8:28:55 PM] ShilohaPlace: No
[28-Dec-15 8:29:22 PM] ShilohaPlace: The 3rd testament is the culmination of all of this planatary civilizartion's history.
[28-Dec-15 8:29:25 PM] Hades 88: no, no more books, no more following, no more laws
[28-Dec-15 8:30:01 PM | Edited 8:30:04 PM] Hades 88: no more priest cast and secret keepers
[28-Dec-15 8:30:29 PM] ShilohaPlace: Oh there will be laws, 'Laws of Nature;' and the Birth of a new science as the 'one language code' learning from the past dichotomised history of the planet.
[28-Dec-15 8:31:17 PM] ShilohaPlace: True, the 'priests' will be gone and be replaced by teachers of whatever, experts, artisians, scientists, doctors, ET translators etc
[28-Dec-15 8:32:11 PM] ShilohaPlace: There will be councils of the elders instead of politicians. There will be administrators, somewhat but not as nationalistic, as you can see in the scifi.
[28-Dec-15 8:33:02 PM] ShilohaPlace: Local government as the fractsals of the super governemnt which will not govern, but become a standard template
[28-Dec-15 8:33:20 PM | Edited 8:38:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: I understand your distastes and fears regarding any control.
[28-Dec-15 8:33:46 PM] ShilohaPlace: Let me show you one code, which nutshells the real new World Admoinistration.
[28-Dec-15 8:34:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: (81) Jesus said, "Let him who has grown rich be king, and let him who possesses power renounce it."
[28-Dec-15 8:34:35 PM] ShilohaPlace: What does this mean?
[28-Dec-15 8:35:23 PM | Edited 8:38:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: It means, that 'the more jurisdiction and administrative power one has' the more it must be given away and shared wit, well the constituency which is 'governed'.
[28-Dec-15 8:36:01 PM] ShilohaPlace: This is a kind of administration utterly foreignh to this plane; but as it is encoded it will come to pass.
[28-Dec-15 8:38:08 PM] ShilohaPlace: In practical terms this also means a 'Council of Elders' read 'Group of informed Administrators' will reproduce themselves on many levels: Planetary; Continental; National; District; City; Town; Suburb; Street; Family etc.
[28-Dec-15 8:48:47 PM] ShilohaPlace: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/ind...a-thuban-bashing-thread.1436/page-4#post-7699
[28-Dec-15 9:47:08 PM] ShilohaPlace: What is A True Thuban and Islam?
[29-Dec-15 1:23:38 AM] susan lynne schwenger: Off to bury my mum mum
[29-Dec-15 5:05:01 AM] raxnae: grim but respectful task Susan I wish you well
[29-Dec-15 12:23:28 PM] *** Sirius 17 sent Chat with Rax.docx ***
[29-Dec-15 12:23:34 PM] Sirius 17: too long to paste
[29-Dec-15 12:23:50 PM] Sirius 17: talk here rax
[29-Dec-15 12:24:43 PM] Sirius 17: in the spirit of Thuban lets keep everything transparent
[29-Dec-15 12:25:38 PM] Sirius 17: it might get toasty in here but we will keep it real
[29-Dec-15 12:27:03 PM] raxnae: ok lol
[29-Dec-15 12:28:15 PM] Sirius 17: http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2015/December/ISIS-Leader-Urges-Worlds-Muslims-to-Join-its-Jihad
[29-Dec-15 12:28:34 PM] Sirius 17: of course i spell checked a little
[29-Dec-15 12:28:44 PM] Sirius 17: i am a horrible speller incase anyone has noticed
[29-Dec-15 12:28:50 PM] raxnae: so am I lol
[29-Dec-15 12:29:03 PM] Sirius 17: why i love spell checker lol
[29-Dec-15 12:29:49 PM] raxnae: liberate palestine yeah right lol
[29-Dec-15 12:30:05 PM] raxnae: soon as it goes bad for israel they gonna nuke the shit out of everything
[29-Dec-15 12:30:51 PM] Sirius 17: well this is serious, so if they truly think he is the caliphate, and many do but won't admit it openly
[29-Dec-15 12:30:59 PM] Sirius 17: then they have to obey
[29-Dec-15 12:31:21 PM] raxnae: unfortunately, as said before Surtur's Fire threatens to encompass the whole world
[29-Dec-15 12:31:26 PM] Sirius 17: so it could mean more terror attacks on the west
[29-Dec-15 12:32:37 PM] Sirius 17: well everything is encompassed by the Logos and it has it covered
[29-Dec-15 12:32:59 PM] raxnae: the Logos is gonna ram a horn in Surtur's eye? lol
[29-Dec-15 12:33:13 PM] Sirius 17: all we can do is watch and see and try to open peoples eyes and keep your mind from being sucked in
[29-Dec-15 12:33:26 PM] Sirius 17: how anyone can defend this fucking Islam is beyond me
[29-Dec-15 12:33:47 PM] raxnae: peaceful youth a plastic existance
[29-Dec-15 12:33:50 PM] Sirius 17: the logos is the ram
[29-Dec-15 12:34:04 PM] Sirius 17: http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/insidei...cover-Ancient-Statue-that-May-Have-Symbolized
[29-Dec-15 12:35:19 PM] Sirius 17: i had an interesting conversation at the airport with a Bahai couple that were living in victoria but were orginally from Iran
[29-Dec-15 12:35:28 PM] raxnae: well one thing is for sure the Logos will have its final say in the matter one day at the end of this timeline
[29-Dec-15 12:35:37 PM] Sirius 17: i heard them speaking Farsi and so asked what part of the world they were from
[29-Dec-15 12:35:52 PM] Sirius 17: and she said oh we are speaking Persian
[29-Dec-15 12:36:00 PM] Sirius 17: which of course means Iran
[29-Dec-15 12:36:06 PM] raxnae: yeah
[29-Dec-15 12:36:07 PM] Sirius 17: and i said oh, nice
[29-Dec-15 12:36:25 PM] Sirius 17: and then come to find out they were Bahai faith
[29-Dec-15 12:37:14 PM] Sirius 17: well she told me that the part of the middle east where Islam was born out of that the tribal people there were so barbaric they used to sacrafice and kill the females as soon as they were born
[29-Dec-15 12:37:28 PM] Sirius 17: so they only took slave wives
[29-Dec-15 12:37:32 PM] Sirius 17: and kept the males
[29-Dec-15 12:37:49 PM] raxnae: sounds about right
[29-Dec-15 12:38:18 PM] Sirius 17: she is convinced that it is this original evil that is surfacing today in Islam
[29-Dec-15 12:38:29 PM] Sirius 17: and i just let her talk ok
[29-Dec-15 12:38:42 PM] Sirius 17: you should of seen the look in her eyes even talking about it
[29-Dec-15 12:38:51 PM] Sirius 17: she was almost crying
[29-Dec-15 12:39:12 PM] raxnae: I'm sure she has witnessed some personal horrors of Islam
[29-Dec-15 12:39:35 PM] Sirius 17: but being as she was bahai she told me that the one good thing coming out of all of this is that the world is going to unite to defeat evil once and for all
[29-Dec-15 12:40:24 PM] Sirius 17: she told me the bahai believe that there is something good in every religion
[29-Dec-15 12:40:31 PM] Sirius 17: so they try to look at it
[29-Dec-15 12:40:45 PM] raxnae: yeah I just wiki'd bahai it seems to go in accordance with the logos
[29-Dec-15 12:41:06 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.bahai.org/
[29-Dec-15 12:41:11 PM] Sirius 17: she told me about this web site
[29-Dec-15 12:41:34 PM] Sirius 17: and i didn't know this, because i really don't know alot about Bahai, but it originated in Iran she said
[29-Dec-15 12:41:41 PM] Sirius 17: right along with Zoroastrianism
[29-Dec-15 12:41:52 PM] Sirius 17: i found that interesting
[29-Dec-15 12:42:02 PM] raxnae: funny so many persians are hijacked now
[29-Dec-15 12:42:18 PM] raxnae: when they have such unique faiths born in their domain
[29-Dec-15 12:42:20 PM] Sirius 17: she told me around 30 years ago when the clerics took over Iran is when things there went to shit and her family decided to get the fuck out
[29-Dec-15 12:42:59 PM] Sirius 17: and now most of these other religious groups have become very marginalized
[29-Dec-15 12:43:03 PM] Sirius 17: very few
[29-Dec-15 12:43:17 PM] Sirius 17: they Islamified the whole country she said
[29-Dec-15 12:43:35 PM] Sirius 17: and Iran back when she remembers it was very diverse
[29-Dec-15 12:43:44 PM] Sirius 17: not like it is today at all
[29-Dec-15 12:43:57 PM] Sirius 17: it is Islams way or the highway she said, her words
[29-Dec-15 12:44:09 PM] raxnae: yeah I saw the Daily Show do an interview over there you can still see traces of its old state
[29-Dec-15 12:45:08 PM] raxnae: btw off topic but you know out of all mythological characters Loki has the most songs about him lol
[29-Dec-15 12:45:23 PM] raxnae: Odin is a close second
[29-Dec-15 12:45:58 PM] Sirius 17: LOKI=....DIY
[29-Dec-15 12:46:03 PM] raxnae: lol
[29-Dec-15 12:46:13 PM] Sirius 17: well...
[29-Dec-15 12:48:17 PM] raxnae:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc9F95XwYi4&list=PL9L-0A3IPmUMl9a1usiuUjy__-Bof-zia&index=76
what is the deeper meaning of Ragnarok? hehe
[29-Dec-15 12:50:59 PM] raxnae: I'll give you a hint
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv13U4VewFo&feature=iv&src_vid=KwdcFVsmYtU&annotation_id=annotation_1493116665

[29-Dec-15 12:51:01 PM] Sirius 17: i think i am going hoarse listening to that
[29-Dec-15 12:51:07 PM] raxnae: lol
[29-Dec-15 12:54:40 PM] Sirius 17:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HujjNQPv2U

[29-Dec-15 12:58:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes what is good is often forgotten and what is bad is often hidden
[29-Dec-15 12:58:56 PM] raxnae: the secrets you seek are already written within the blood of man
[29-Dec-15 12:59:11 PM] raxnae: it is the coming together of the living and the dead
[29-Dec-15 12:59:51 PM] Sirius 17: yeah true
[29-Dec-15 1:00:25 PM] raxnae: the glorious rebirth which they portray as a glorious battle but would most likely appear as a new star humanity with rebirths of dead relatives and even wiped out hereditary lines
[29-Dec-15 1:01:15 PM] raxnae: gonna have to add that to my trance sleep playlist
[29-Dec-15 1:02:14 PM] raxnae:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W35dyPTh6o
this is a fun song and video lol
[29-Dec-15 1:02:32 PM] raxnae: did you see this in your visions of the pyramids? lol
[29-Dec-15 1:03:24 PM] raxnae: this song also refers to Loki's Dread Offspring offhandedly of course
[29-Dec-15 1:13:10 PM] Sirius 17: umm lol no
[29-Dec-15 1:13:20 PM] Sirius 17: ejaculating fire
[29-Dec-15 1:13:24 PM] raxnae: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:13:46 PM] Sirius 17: looks like IS propaganda material or militaristic
[29-Dec-15 1:14:18 PM] raxnae: how? there is no muslim influence in the video at all except for maybe the folks being burned alive wearing turbans
[29-Dec-15 1:14:27 PM] Sirius 17: no i saw 3 stars line up over the pyramids, they were so huge they looked as big as the moon
[29-Dec-15 1:14:58 PM | Edited 1:15:08 PM] Sirius 17: then when they hit the tops of the pyramids the pyramids were all aglow
[29-Dec-15 1:15:34 PM] raxnae: yes I heard in the ancient past they had a material on the tops that glowed in the dark moonlight and could be seen for miles away
[29-Dec-15 1:16:02 PM] Sirius 17: well this was like an alignment i was seeing
[29-Dec-15 1:16:15 PM] Sirius 17: Orions belt maybe but it was really up close and personal
[29-Dec-15 1:16:27 PM] Sirius 17: the stars were enormous
[29-Dec-15 1:19:50 PM] Sirius 17: Jessica Bryant 1 month ago
I want this played at my Muslim funeral in Israel on Christmas.
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Jessica Bryant 3 weeks ago
+Serenity the Insane
lol I thought you were insane?
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Jessica Bryant 3 weeks ago
+Serenity the Insane
no! I want Satan to play it!
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sanchawebo 3 weeks ago
+Jessica Bryant 3edgy5me
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Jessica Bryant 2 weeks ago
+sanchawebo
OMG! Did you learn that meme on 4Redditz? Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!
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bober bob 1 week ago
+Jessica Bryant and whats the point
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Abdallah El Graoui 1 week ago
+bober bob the point is she's going to be dead
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Jessica Bryant 1 week ago
+Abdallah El Graoui
Dead like Allah's faggot ass pig fucking pedophile self burning in Hell!
ALLAN SNACKBAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!
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[29-Dec-15 1:19:58 PM] Sirius 17: wow
[29-Dec-15 1:20:44 PM] Sirius 17: i was just reading the comments below the fire video
[29-Dec-15 1:22:31 PM] Sirius 17: sometimes the comments are more entertaining then the videos
[29-Dec-15 1:22:38 PM] raxnae: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:22:48 PM] Sirius 17: ya know what i am saying?
[29-Dec-15 1:22:51 PM] raxnae: yeah
[29-Dec-15 1:22:54 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:23:09 PM] Sirius 17: although, we shouldn't laugh
[29-Dec-15 1:23:25 PM] Sirius 17: this is our fine young men and women....the future right there
[29-Dec-15 1:23:49 PM] raxnae: oh believe me I know I've been in the bowels of 4chan's /b/ board many times
[29-Dec-15 1:24:00 PM] raxnae: don't go there btw ever lol
[29-Dec-15 1:24:27 PM] Sirius 17: RUFUREEL
[29-Dec-15 1:25:54 PM] raxnae: Томислав Ѓорески 3 weeks ago (edited)
That feeling when you get shampoo in your urethra
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Robyn Black 2 weeks ago
That's why you shouldn't jack off with shampoo.
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T.Shaun Sullivan 1 week ago
+Robyn Black this is true
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[29-Dec-15 1:27:33 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:27:49 PM] *** Sirius 17 sent Rax Meme.jpg ***
[29-Dec-15 1:27:58 PM] Sirius 17: i found this one just for you huny
[29-Dec-15 1:28:03 PM] raxnae: lol nice
[29-Dec-15 1:29:35 PM] raxnae:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50uGSZhyje4
you might be more of a Thor kinda gal hehe
[29-Dec-15 1:30:59 PM] *** Sirius 17 sent catching fire meme.jpg ***
[29-Dec-15 1:31:04 PM] Sirius 17: meme for xeia
[29-Dec-15 1:31:16 PM] raxnae: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:32:08 PM] Sirius 17: you still listening to wagner?
[29-Dec-15 1:32:16 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:32:24 PM] raxnae: I got it on my trance sleep playlist
[29-Dec-15 1:32:38 PM] raxnae: so I will listen to the whole thing at some point in my sleep lol
[29-Dec-15 1:33:04 PM] Sirius 17: it is one of my favorites
[29-Dec-15 1:35:03 PM] raxnae:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1LcdtFJjOI&index=48&list=PL9L-0A3IPmUMl9a1usiuUjy__-Bof-zia
personal song for me non metal so no worries bout going hoarse lol
[29-Dec-15 1:35:44 PM] Sirius 17:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u81lqZm9aZg

[29-Dec-15 1:35:53 PM] Sirius 17: showing my age again
[29-Dec-15 1:35:59 PM] raxnae: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:38:25 PM] raxnae: that reminds me in the Guild of Universal Adventurers I was going to have my own Clan, Clan Dragonaire lol
[29-Dec-15 1:39:08 PM] Sirius 17: nice
[29-Dec-15 1:39:21 PM] Sirius 17: i played D&D back in the day
[29-Dec-15 1:39:46 PM] Sirius 17: my dungeon master was my bf and we would play smut D&D, it was fun
[29-Dec-15 1:39:54 PM] raxnae: lol nice
[29-Dec-15 1:39:59 PM] Sirius 17: like a whole group of us 8 or 9 people
[29-Dec-15 1:40:16 PM] Sirius 17: he would create dungeons and scenes and describe them in detail
[29-Dec-15 1:40:22 PM] raxnae: did you get raped by a minotaur? lol
[29-Dec-15 1:41:22 PM] Sirius 17: um no i did get like 109 KP once turning into a snake as a changling then into a large raptor after i crawed up the vagina of one of my opponites
[29-Dec-15 1:41:39 PM] Sirius 17: it was like insta kill lol
[29-Dec-15 1:41:39 PM] raxnae: if I were a woman I would love to fuck a minotaur lol
[29-Dec-15 1:41:48 PM] Sirius 17: but he/she didn't see it coming
[29-Dec-15 1:41:53 PM] raxnae: lol
[29-Dec-15 1:42:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes then we would get like dammage points for not turning someone on enough, stuff like that
[29-Dec-15 1:42:36 PM] Sirius 17: it was really fun
[29-Dec-15 1:42:38 PM] Sirius 17: hilarious
[29-Dec-15 1:42:51 PM] Sirius 17: we would laugh for hours
[29-Dec-15 1:43:23 PM] raxnae: sure you weren't hittin da pot? lol
[29-Dec-15 1:43:25 PM] Sirius 17: my favorite character was a chaotic neutral changling
[29-Dec-15 1:43:31 PM] Sirius 17: well a bit lol
[29-Dec-15 1:43:35 PM] Sirius 17: back then
[29-Dec-15 1:44:13 PM] raxnae: yeah its good to open the minds gateway if properly harnessed, I harnessed it too much and opened the gate too wide lol
[29-Dec-15 1:44:43 PM] Sirius 17: i had my fill by the time i was 20
[29-Dec-15 1:44:57 PM] raxnae: took me til I was about 22
[29-Dec-15 1:45:09 PM] raxnae: just didn't work for me anymore
[29-Dec-15 1:45:23 PM] raxnae: had the opposite effects instead of calming it was anxiety inducing
[29-Dec-15 1:45:25 PM] Sirius 17: my parents being hippies back in my youth i smoked weed with my dad now and then
[29-Dec-15 1:45:35 PM] Sirius 17: and of course my friends were all into it too
[29-Dec-15 1:45:48 PM] Sirius 17: but i got to where i couldn't stand it anymore
[29-Dec-15 1:45:55 PM] raxnae: yeah my step dad was a big pot smoker and a drunk back in his youth
[29-Dec-15 1:46:14 PM] Sirius 17: i have done it here and there since, but not for the last 4 yrs or so, i just cant stand it
[29-Dec-15 1:46:17 PM] raxnae: before he got sober and went to preaching lol
[29-Dec-15 1:46:39 PM] Sirius 17: it just puts me to sleep
[29-Dec-15 1:47:07 PM] raxnae: god it keeps me awake, like all night until the effects wear off, and thats on just a tiny micro hit
[29-Dec-15 1:47:22 PM] Sirius 17: yeah it does the same thing to James, makes him anxious
[29-Dec-15 1:47:51 PM] Sirius 17: he quit for two weeks now again
[29-Dec-15 1:47:59 PM] Sirius 17: he says for good now
[29-Dec-15 1:48:07 PM] Sirius 17: i hope it is true
[29-Dec-15 1:48:13 PM] Sirius 17: not holding my breath lol
[29-Dec-15 1:48:16 PM] raxnae: you can only hope lol
[29-Dec-15 1:48:33 PM] Sirius 17: but i encourage him
[29-Dec-15 1:49:20 PM] Sirius 17: so yeah when i was in my 20s i discovered a clear head and mental focus was the greatest high
[29-Dec-15 1:49:27 PM] Sirius 17: quit all drugs pretty much
[29-Dec-15 1:50:01 PM] Sirius 17: i don't miss them
[29-Dec-15 1:51:32 PM] raxnae: I miss it, the days I could just be a stoner and let the day flow by, blissfully going through time and space as my mind wandered through the gate of oblivion
[29-Dec-15 1:51:51 PM] raxnae: but I cant do it anymore, not after it took its toll on me
[29-Dec-15 1:51:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes but at what cost Rax?
[29-Dec-15 1:51:59 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
[29-Dec-15 1:52:08 PM] Sirius 17: you can't check out of reality forever
[29-Dec-15 1:52:17 PM] Sirius 17: not healthy for your heart and mind
[29-Dec-15 1:52:53 PM] raxnae: oh I know plenty of stoners who still to this day enjoy it, but my physiology just can't handle it anymore
[29-Dec-15 1:53:42 PM] raxnae: I'm what they call "naturally high" and I naturally rise higher and higher unless I take the medicine to dull myself down to normal processing levels
[29-Dec-15 1:54:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes and this natural high is the best
[29-Dec-15 1:54:40 PM] Sirius 17: better then any drug known to man
[29-Dec-15 1:55:46 PM] Sirius 17: but it is good that you know yourself and your boundries
[29-Dec-15 2:04:43 PM] raxnae: yes it is good to know my boundaries, if I did not, Reaper would have already claimed my soul years ago and I would be an incarnate of death and destruction
[29-Dec-15 2:06:14 PM] raxnae: its hard living in peace when you're a natural born warrior, but I am now a warrior of words as swords so as long as there is a battle to be fought I am sated
[29-Dec-15 2:08:03 PM] raxnae: oh funny thing, the people on 4chan who dislike islam call its followers mudslimes lol
[29-Dec-15 2:09:53 PM] Sirius 17: i am not familar with this 4chan
[29-Dec-15 2:10:05 PM] raxnae: oh its very notorious
[29-Dec-15 2:10:21 PM] raxnae: just look up news articles about it
[29-Dec-15 2:10:25 PM] Sirius 17: what is it?
[29-Dec-15 2:10:34 PM] raxnae: an internet imageboard
[29-Dec-15 2:10:40 PM] Sirius 17: oh
[29-Dec-15 2:11:05 PM] raxnae: not all of it is bad, but /b/ is full of trolls and other undesirables, a few true hackers, mostly script kiddies
[29-Dec-15 2:11:36 PM] raxnae: its the random board that allows anything to be posted except cp (child porn)
[29-Dec-15 2:12:37 PM] raxnae: occasionally some idiot will do it and the fbi party van as they call it comes to pick them up
[29-Dec-15 2:13:29 PM] raxnae: thats where I saw a lot of IS execution videos
[29-Dec-15 2:14:34 PM] raxnae: it was baaaaaaad and gruesome stuff
[29-Dec-15 2:15:23 PM] raxnae: you thought the videos Tony posted were bad, /b/ had a lot of worse shit than that posted
[29-Dec-15 2:16:37 PM] Sirius 17: sec phone
[29-Dec-15 2:17:44 PM] raxnae: np its time for me to lay my head to bed anyway, don't think I'll make it to when Tony gets on if he does lol I been sleeping til like 12-1 pm everyday cuz I stay up so late now
[29-Dec-15 2:27:07 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i have been staying up late too
[29-Dec-15 2:27:14 PM] Sirius 17: my schedule is all weird lately
[29-Dec-15 2:27:38 PM] Sirius 17: those videos were about all i can take of the Islam violence
[29-Dec-15 2:27:56 PM] Sirius 17: the slaughter house ones were over the top for me
[29-Dec-15 2:28:28 PM] Sirius 17: i have never really even wanted to watch such things
[29-Dec-15 2:28:43 PM] Sirius 17: don't even like horror films
[29-Dec-15 2:30:10 PM] Sirius 17: but i know i needed to see it for myself , just to be informed of the true nature of what this meme is capable of
[29-Dec-15 2:33:28 PM] *** Kali 666 has left ***
[29-Dec-15 2:41:35 PM] raxnae: heh well xeia unfriended me lol
[29-Dec-15 2:41:58 PM] Sirius 17: yes blocked me also
[29-Dec-15 2:43:13 PM] raxnae: I have no more time for drama so whatever ya know lol
[29-Dec-15 2:44:35 PM] Sirius 17: no we don't
[29-Dec-15 2:49:31 PM] raxnae: I suppose she thinks you and Tony turned me against her or some such, actually it was just my ET mind getting fed up with her personal drama and not understanding my star wars metaphor that for the billionth time explains her problem lol
[29-Dec-15 2:53:02 PM] Sirius 17: it is not personal
[29-Dec-15 2:53:10 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes she has left here now lol
[29-Dec-15 2:53:17 PM] ShilohaPlace: sentimental chick
[29-Dec-15 2:53:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: I am blocked too how mature
[29-Dec-15 2:53:51 PM] ShilohaPlace: Moa seems to be down can you access?
[29-Dec-15 2:54:02 PM] Sirius 17: let me check
[29-Dec-15 2:55:26 PM] Sirius 17: yeah something seems wrong
[29-Dec-15 2:55:38 PM] Sirius 17: it just keeps circling
[29-Dec-15 2:55:43 PM] raxnae: yes can't walk light enough not to crack the eggshells of her ego, which I deeply wounded
[29-Dec-15 2:55:51 PM] ShilohaPlace: rax can you see this forum?
[29-Dec-15 2:56:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/
[29-Dec-15 2:56:24 PM] raxnae: nope just keeps circleing
[29-Dec-15 2:56:45 PM] Sirius 17: says server not found
[29-Dec-15 2:56:48 PM] raxnae: webpage unavaliable
[29-Dec-15 2:57:34 PM] ShilohaPlace: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/
[29-Dec-15 2:58:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: Last Down:
DOWN
Themistsofavalon.net is DOWN
It is not just you. The server is not responding...
[29-Dec-15 2:58:18 PM] ShilohaPlace: Right
[29-Dec-15 2:58:18 PM] Sirius 17: Website Name:
www.themistsofavalon.netURL Checked:
no responseResponse Time:
unknownLast Down:
DOWN
Themistsofavalon.net is DOWN
It is not just you. The server is not responding...
[29-Dec-15 2:58:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: karma? lol
[29-Dec-15 2:58:46 PM] Sirius 17: lol
[29-Dec-15 2:58:48 PM] Sirius 17: something
[29-Dec-15 2:58:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: maintenance
[29-Dec-15 2:59:01 PM] raxnae: they probably got ddos'd by another troll with a bone to pick with the other trolls lol
[29-Dec-15 2:59:09 PM] ShilohaPlace: keep checking though periodically
[29-Dec-15 2:59:18 PM] Sirius 17: yah i will

 

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• Post n°75

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

SuiGeneris Today at 10:08 pm
orthodoxymoron wrote:
I think one should question themselves constantly.
Questioning oneself incessantly is not a good thing if you are still yet to determine who is doing the thinking. Then it turns into a form of self abuse and even self torture that does have other psychological origins and implications. It creates insecurity and the end result is that the person becomes so confused that ends up not knowing who to trust...not even trusting the Self. As i said to Sanicle earlier,
SuiGeneris wrote:
The key is to recognize what exactly is this human mind in the first place. Who is talking to you when you think you are talking to yourself 'in your mind'. Is it your created soul, or is it your immortal Spirit? Or even an idea from someone or something external you picked up from the collective sphere of human thought.


orthodoxymoron wrote:
I place this idea side-by-side with "Praying Without Ceasing".
Too much chatter distracts. Modern world is made exclusively for that. Even 'inner' chatter distracts. The soul is relentless in this regard. Careful with that.

orthodoxymoron wrote:
One Must Have an Objective-Standard of Knowledge and Ethics OUTSIDE OF THEMSELVES.
This is what politicians need people to believe. This leads to abuse and corruption.


B.B.Baghor wrote:
I created a boundary at some point, but I had to believe my intuitive hunches to be real. There's a very interesting aspect in putting boundaries, in that by stating my perception as valid, without the need of an outside confirmation by any person or being, a boundary is created as a circle around a centerpoint. I guess I could call that definition.
The definition of self in a non-defensive state, in absence of opposition or merging...
Xeia


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• Post n°76

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

orthodoxymoron Today at 10:43 pm

I call it "Masturbation of the Mind"!! It's actually quite enjoyable -- but then I guess I'm a sucker for "Tough-Love"!!
This reminds me of The Offspring concert I attended a few years ago!! What Would Noodles Do??


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• Post n°77

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

SuiGeneris Today at 11:14 pm
B.B.Baghor wrote:
Carol's comment here:
"One of the things I've noticed after Tony and Raven were banned (closing the door to that active energy on the forum where they would also constantly spam other member's threads) is the increase in internet traffic, posting and membership."

Makes me so happy, for I've felt all along, that the presence of the Thuban world here, was an obstacle to many who felt drawn to register and/or actively post and share with others. I've meant to discuss this often, but the freedom to share as one of MoA's rules, made me decide to leave it. And instead, leave this place for some fresh air, a break, finding new perspectives. As I see it now, I myself had as much freedom to share, sharing my view on it, although I would have done it probably through a pm to Carol and others. That's another learning curve
hehe, this is very cute. I appreciate this candor a lot. These are the things that make me smile. Specially the learning curve thing. I am constantly learning so I can definitely relate.

Thank you for this comment Carol and BBB. It is imperative to remind not only ourselves but all, that we have as much freedom to share our views as everyone else. Even if they are not popular...specially if they are not popular. I like it when those who thought didn't matter found their voice through courage. More and more people are doing that and it's awesome to see. Some things can be shared through a pm, but there might be something someone really needs to hear at a very crucial time for them, so it is worth to share openly when you really feel you should.

Xeia

 

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• Post n°78

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Sanicle Today at 1:07 am
orthodoxymoron wrote:

I call it "Masturbation of the Mind"!! It's actually quite enjoyable -- but then I guess I'm a sucker for "Tough-Love"!!

Haha, yep. Question + Answer = Satisfaction.

I believe there's physical, emotional, mental and spiritual sex as well ie desire + satisfaction of desire = the Cycle of Creativity = LIFE in every arena available to us, what drives us all onwards, outwards, inwards and upwards. Ahem ......... 'downwards' as well. And yes, it's nothing to be ashamed of. It's that which keeps us coming back to do it all over again.


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• Post n°79

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

SuiGeneris Today at 5:14 am

Spregovori wrote:
You are free to share your thoughts and experiences with people in any place. The only thing here is that, you were not asked to do it. It was of your own volition and as a forum member you have this "right" and ability to do so.

Yes, good observation, i was not asked. But i did it anyway.


Spregovori wrote:
Speculation by itself implies an error. Be it in judgement or the methods or both.
spec·u·la·tion
ˌspekyəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun: speculation; plural noun: speculations 1. the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.


It might seem like an error for you if i form an idea in my mind without 'firm evidence'. However, you could consider that not all people need such a thing. There are other ways to go about thinking that are outside of the norm that still constitutes a valid form of thinking for the person doing it, in spite of it appearing foreign to others.
I am aware that the word speculation already carries a negative connotation but in spite of that, speculation is necessary now more than ever in inner Self talk, because
1. 'Firm evidence' can be fabricated. And,
2. because without it, by holding back and waiting for the world or others to bring you answers, you could spend your whole life without them...and that will simply not do for some of us curious ones. Not daring to formulate ideas, possibilities, in mind will create inaction and stagnation. Why so many find themselves stuck.

As a 'dreamer', I do not need evidence to dream, because the unreal simply does not exist for me. I laugh at 'firm evidence'.


Spregovori wrote:
People will be informed and will make their own minds?


No. It is not that simple.


Spregovori wrote:
People (had) already made their own minds even before this thread here. They did not ask you to inform them, this goes for the lurkers too. What you write might give confirmation to what they think - parts they agree with, the rest will be ignored.

I know nobody asked me to inform them.
And about this issue, i will remind you of what i said about Thuban:

SuiGeneris wrote:
It is not completely dead yet, and it will still be alive so long there is a single person believing in it; and this is exactly the reason why I feel what I’m doing has to be done. Since this Thuban amm…”program” was ‘downloaded’ into the Matrix, incepted into the mind of someone alive at this time on Earth, that alone has made a record of it in the Akash and as a result of this it is now able to be ‘downloaded’ by others also. It is available to download and install into your own personal vessel in order to run its program to a T. IF the soul allows it. Now, the truth about “Thuban”, as a cult, as a group, as an idea, as a sect as whatever anyone wants to take it as, was nowhere to be found. It only existed in the memory of a few of us who had actually gone through the developing of that “experiment” from day one. When I first realized this I knew I had to do it somehow.
And maybe it didn't cross your mind yet but, it could be that i had this impulse, that i felt this inner calling to do this because someone somewhere, maybe not even now, but in the future, will need to know and will seek my words and will take into consideration what i have to say, and maybe that will turn out to be important even if it is for a single lineage.


Spregovori wrote:
Despondency is, curiously, fairly common these days and i would not say thuban itself is a cause for that.


de·spond·ent
dəˈspändənt/
adjective: despondent: In low spirits from loss of hope or courage.
It is.
Despondency is a big part of the Draco agenda because you need to believe you are lost by yourself and that is why you need an outside saviour. It plays on your emotions constantly telling you how the old world and the old world humans are lost and there is just no hope for them. So therefore you need to hope for Jesus and the ET's with their starcruises. Tony himself has said countless times that personally he has lost all hope and only has hope for the Logos now. he sits there and 'hopes', without taking care of his own personal issues and that is the template of conduct he passes on to others. This is the extent by which Thuban itself is a cause for that.


Spregovori wrote:
I would say people with an already preexisting condition seek out what might give them something new, something different, some glimmer of hope or just simply something to play around with in their minds. How thuban might affect their condition can not be generalized.

Just because you cannot see it does not mean it is not there. Thuban 'datastream' is not intended to help any human exit the matrix. It is intended to maximize hybridization potentials to benefit a race who sees humans as nothing but monkeys.
As the Dragon Sirebard Beardris said on his first transmission:

"In simplistic terms then, the Old World Monkeys and all of their evolutionary descendants are your ancestral children."

It lies about your true origins and creates a further mental divide using terms like 'old world' and 'new world', 'old human' and 'new human'. The data overload pushing on this mental divide brings more strain to the already polarized brain under cosmic pressure and leads to mental illnesses like schizophrenia, hallucinations and bipolar disorders that at least four people who are current members have suffered and been treated for. Four in a group of 8 to 10 people is a high percentage. The rest being labeled things like "scatterbrained" is not uncommon either. This 'scattering of the brain' is the goal actually. Because the further the mind is scattered the harder it is for it to regain its crucial orientation.
The 'losing their minds' of the end times is something many feel already…the uneasiness, the mental pressure, etc, and thuban has taken advantage of this energetic impulse for their own 'agenda of agendas'.
So I do not think that i have generalized. I will be specific with an example. Tony saying to a 20 something who has had his heart shattered by a girl he loved more than life itself, that he has no more need for 'human love' because of all the bad experiences he himself had, and so, he better direct all his lust and primal instinct into a 'cosmic desire' switching genders in order to bridge-in the physical world with the metaphysical, hinting that it is ok to forsake human women, and instead focus on having sex with his own JCCJ, etc, etc. Regardless of what percentage of validity may be found within that posture; the point is always stressed in renouncing human love and relationships in favor of 'cosmic' ones. When this metaphysical masturbation is done from the personality or due to the soul's longing for a partner, it opens portals that should not be opened. It is not only physically draining but also emotionally and psychologically destructive as it leaves the person wide open for intrusion and abuse by forces unseen, be them people who have already died or other races in the astral. have you seen those people who think they have been invaded by the holy ghost? have you seen those people who are being exorcised? have you read the experiences Raven explained she felt that led her to the mental breakdown? Do you find any similarities? Now imagine what happens when these ideas are being 'shared' directly and privately with someone who has an already 'preexisting condition' as you said or predisposition to depression or any other emotional handicap, or is simply too inexperienced or worse even, too young to know any better. Where is the personal responsibility of those who say know more than the rest, to protect those who are more vulnerable? Like teenagers for example. Do you think thuban would be beneficial for them? And ultimately, who is really benefiting from this very real energetic exchange? Do ponder.

Spregovori wrote:
Without the sex part thuban would have a chance to not just be a group but a movement. Just a thought, not relevant to the topic. I will go along with your stance and will not touch upon the details.


Actually it is very relevant to the topic and it is not just a thought but part of the actual goal for the thuban Draco program irrupting into here (3d). It was supposed to become a movement after the initial push it had, and the reason it didn't was not because of the misuse of sex (although that played a big part), but because the facilitator was not able to apply the theory into actions.


Spregovori wrote:
Well yes his reactions, in regard to women, were that of a human male.


Spregovori wrote:
If it is related to demiurge (Enlil), which is to be the false god, the pretender god, the christian bible god, the jewish god...one hidden branch (of the two)....same father, different mother... If you say thuban is in its service...then how is it off topic?


I mean, if anyone is unsure about the meaning of a word they can google it so it is not necessary to make a huge list of definitions on this tread about terminology, even though i have a feeling looking back at your long copy paste that you might have been actually tempted to make one.


SuiGeneris wrote:
Yes of course. And if i forget any detail please remind me.

Spregovori wrote:
Might be the right timet for me to say that...and you can correct me if i am wrong...that:

• you in general agree with the thuban databank since it is not the thuban databank as you say, it is merely borrowed existing data put under a thuban label

There is no such thing as a 'thuban databank'. If anything, the databank is the human databank. The thuban Draco program encompassed science, religion, politics, economy, sex, etc etc so it is broad because the human databank is broad. I do not agree with thuban directives or tony's cosmology.


Spregovori wrote:

• there is an agenda behind if, for which you say is not what it is claimed. you say the agenda is actually a reptilian one (be it a memeplex or a real one)

Yes, and memeplexes are real.


Spregovori wrote:

• what you dislike most about thuban is how this databank is being used/applied

This question is difficult. there is so much i dislike about it i am not sure if this is what i dislike the most, and dislike is not the correct word. It is more like an opposite stance.


Spregovori wrote:

• the sexuality itself is also not a problem for you, the problem is (again) the usage of it

Use, misuse and abuse and mixing of terms and adding and taking all in order to fit into an external 'cosmic agenda' for a race who despises humans. Sex is sacred and this program attempts to use it against us.



Spregovori wrote:

• what you also dislike is how you personally were treated, which is also what caused you to slam the door and you also never liked how others (those on the inside and outside) were treated, you dislike the management

I dislike the initial intention to deceive. The management stands out by its own actions more than by its countless words.


Spregovori wrote:

• what you wish to keep people away from is them being misused to fuel the archetypes thuban stands for, you wish to strip thuban of its meta power and you hope posting here (or like this) can help achieve that

You can look at it like this: humans needed to be given a chance to fight on equal terms on the battlefield in regards to thuban directives. It is not fair there is so much data overload regarding thuban twists and there is no information regarding its actual everyday operations on the other side of the curtain. Like in The Wizard of Oz, i opened the curtain so that everyone could consider what they could not consider before.

Xeia



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• Post n°80

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Spregovori Today at 9:34 am

There is no such thing as "equal terms" on the battlefield. There is just victory by cunning, brutality, superiority in numbers and means...or a defeat.

Some make it, some don't, why save just some, cant save them all.

I think it is not worth your time, not that it is a crime. Large majority simply does not care. They would not mind to get some of that dragon air.

Who are you helping? That few, maybe just one, wretched soul. What will that change, if anything at all.

Those who are offered the thuban "ways of things"...haven't they the free will to decide for themselves, such as yourself? Let them take one of those rings.


Look, a cupcake, have a taste. You like that, yes? Now, let me serve you some icing...dab slowly, feel the taste in your mouth...swallow.


Here a portal i open for you, now if you dare...go on...step through.

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• Post n°81

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

paulbenji Today at 9:27 am
Sanicle wroteoor 'Rich' (the author of the comments that Paul posted above) really seems to be suffering. Do you know when it was posted at Lightworkers Paul? I'm wondering if it was around the same time that he contacted the Thubans, as Sui Generis mentioned in her posts. And, I have to ask, are you 'Rich' by any chance Paul?

Thanks for the reply sanicle. And thank you Carol for your words, but as sanicle said, I am not Rich. His site and blog are linked in my post.
I do not post much, but read the forums. And this post by firefly seems to fit into this thread.




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• Post n°301

Warning :A Revelation

firefly Yesterday at 11:58 pm

Let me tell you a story as I feel this message is not just for a few but for many, please use discernment in understanding if this is True.


On 11/1/2008 one of my adult daughters was sitting outside on a balmy evening and contemplating the problems of the World. She started writing her thoughts down and whilst she was writing what the problems are and how she sees it a voice came into her mind and took over her thoughts, during this time the voice was speaking fairly quickly and she had a battle to try to write everything she heard. This is that revelation and you will see at what point the voice came in. At the time of this writing my daughter was extremely spiritual and her belief in God the father and his son were strong. Our family have never attended a church or learned of Godly things. These I believe we are all born with. However, a couple of months after she received this message she had a complete turn around and rejected all that was written an no longer believes in God or his son, but has mentioned that she feels there is a force in the universe. She was a vegetarian and now not only eats meat but has her own live animals for consumptions. To me it seems like someone or something has messed with her mind. Though we are grateful for the message and it starts:-


GOD IS THE CREATION NOT JUST THE CREATOR. THE CREATION OF EVERYTHING, WHAT MAKES THE EARTH AND POSSIBLY HUMANS IS THAT WE CAN CREATE. " WE CAN MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE " WE CAN REPRODUCE AND CREATE.

PERHAPS THE EVIL FORCES CANNOT. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT "THE CREATION" MAN WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE WHAT EVER HE CHOOSES. THEY (EVIL ENTITIES) HAVE TRIED IN THE PAST. THEY ARE IN ANOTHER DIMENSION WHERE IT IS HELL. THEY WANT TO COME BACK AND RULE BUT THEY WILL FAIL. THEY ARE TRYING THROUGH THEIR GENETIC ENGINEERING, TRYING TO CREAT THEMSELVES BY INTERGRATING WITH HUMANS. ONCE THEY CAN CLONE A HUMAN AND CREATE THE ANTI-CHRIST THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO TAKE CONTROL AND PLACE HIM (ANTI-CHRIST) ON THE TOP (LEADER) OF ALL OTHER HUMANS. BRAINWASHING THEM INTO BELIEVING THAT HE/THEY ARE THEIR CREATORS THEN TAKING CONTROL OF MANKIND. GATHERING UP AND TORTURING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BE CONTROLLED. THEY HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE BLACK POPULATION FOR THOUSANDS OF GENERATIONS BY KEEPING THEM POOR AND WILL NOT ABLE TO STOP THE CARNAGE OF THE INDIGINOUS POPULATIONS OF THE WORLD.

THEY FOOL THE REST OF THE WORLD THROUGH MEDIA AND OTHER CONTROL DEVICES TO KEEP US FROM WHAT IS TRUELY OURS. THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SCATTERED ACROSS THE WORLD FOR A REASON, THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF LIFE AND OUR CREATION (GOD'S CREATION) HAS BEEN KEPT FROM US SO THAT GOD COULD DETERMINE WHO IS STILL HIS AND WHO HAS BEEN CONTROLLED BY SATAN AND THE OTHER DARK FORCES, WANTING TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS WORLD AND ITS ABILITIES. THEY ARE LOCKED AWAY UNDERGROUND AND SCATTERED IN THE SKIES, BUT WE CANNOT SEE THEM AS THEY DON'T OR CAN'T OR WON'T APPEAR BEFORE US.

THE EVENTS OF THIS WORLD HAVE NOT TAKEN SHAPE BY ACCIDENT. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN FORETOLD OF WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. SOME PEOPLE WILL DIE FOR THEIR BELIEFS AND SOME WILL JUST ACCEPT THIS LIFE AND THEN BECOME PART OF THE BEAST'S PLANS TO CONTROL AND THEN CONSUME MANKIND INTO OBLIVION. THEY HATE THIS WORLD BECAUSE OF Its ABILITY TO CREATE. THE EARTH IS UNIQUE IN ITS ABILITY TO CREATE AND RECREATE.

WE CAME FROM ADAM (THE SKY THE AIR THE LIGHT) EVE IS THE EARTH OUR MOTHER WHO HAS CREATED US OVER CENTURIES OF TIME. OUR SOULS AND OUR FLESH CAME FROM OUR MOTHER AND FATHER WHO CREATED US. THE CREATION IN WHICH GOD CREATED.

IT WILL GET BAD FOR SO MANY SOME WILL BE SPARED LIKE SOME WERE SPARED DURING THE GREAT FLOOD. THIS NUMBER IS NOT MANY PERHAPS THE 144,000 DIRECT BLOODLINE DESCENDANTS THAT WERE AND HAVE REMAINED PURE WITH THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER. THEY HAVE NO WISH TO DESTROY LIFE AND THE CREATION, BUT HAVE BEEN BORN INTO THIS WORLD WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS NOT RIGHT AND THAT THERE IS MORE TO KNOW. THROUGH SEEKING AND SEARCHING THE TRUTH IT MAY BE REVEALED BUT THE DEMONS CONFUSE AND CONTROL SO MANY WITH THEIR RICHES DEBAUCHED LIFE ,THE POWER, THE CONTROL. THEY HAVE CONDITIONED MANKIND INTO BELIEVING AND WANTING THIS WORLD AND ITS RICHES AND ALL THE THINGS THAT MONEY/WEALTH CAN BUY.

THEY HAVE POISONED THE FOOD THEY PROVIDE FOR US AND HAVE MANAGED TO GET MAN INTO A POSITION OF HARVESTING LIKE THEY HAVE WITH SHEEP/CATTLE AND OTHER MEAT.

THE EATING OF MEAT OR SHOULD I SAY FLESH IS TO DESTROY THE CREATION. WE WERE MEANT TO LIVE IN HARMONY WITH THIS WORLD AND HAVE LONG PROSPOROUS LIVES, BUT(this is where the voice came in)" WE/YOU DESTROYED IT BECAUSE THE DEMONS HAVE BEEN MOULDING AND MANIPULATING YOU FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. YOU HAVE BECOME A DISEASE ON THIS PLANET KILLING EVERYTHING IN YOUR PATH JUST AS THE DEMONS HAVE PLANNED FOR YOU TO DO. YOU KILL LIFE THEY WILL TAKE YOU AND EVENTUALLY EVERYTHING WILL BE CONSUMED INTO NOTHING.

YOU ARE THE CREATION AND YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT THE DEMONS ARE EVERYWHERE GRADUALLY TAKING CONTROL OF THIS LIFE THIS CREATION.


I WILL DESTROY IT ONCE TIME HAS COME. NOT DESTROY THE WORLD BUT DESTROY THE DISEASE THAT HAS BECOME OF THIS CREATION, LIKE I CAN DESTROY MANY OF MY OTHER CREATIONS. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE SAVED BY UNDERSTANDING WHAT I AM AND WHAT I AM NOT! WHAT IS INSIDE OF YOU CAN TELL YOU IF YOU TRUELY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CREATION IS AND HOW THE CREATION IS GOD. THE POWER THE LIGHT THE LOVE THAT IS INSIDE OF YOU. THE WAY YOU FEEL TOWARDS YOUR CHILDREN IS THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT MY CREATION. IAM DISAPPOINTED WITH THE WAY IT HAS TURNED OUT BUT I WILL NOT COMPLETELY DESTROY IT. I WILL TAKE THOSE THAT I KNOW ARE PURE IN THEIR HEARTS/ THEIR BLOOD AND ARE NOT FOOLED BY THE COMING EVENTS OR HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THEM OCCURING.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF GENUINE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE SOME VERY WRONG THINGS IN ORDER TO GET THIS WORLD INTO SHAPE AND WHERE IT IS TO-DAY. BUT MANY PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN MUCH LIFE OR CONTRIBUTED IN CREATING AND ALLOWING THE PENETRATION OF THIS DISEASE INTO MANKIND SO THEY CANNOT SEE OR EVEN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND AS TO WHAT GOD AND THE CREATION ARE AND THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME AND HOW UNIQUE YOU ARE ON THIS LANET. THIS GARDEN OF EDEN THAT ALLOWED YOU MY CREATION TO LIVE ENJOY AND BE CREATORS OF YOUR SELF THROUGH THE EARTH YOUR MOTHER AND WHO BORE YOU, AND I THE FATHER WHO IS YOUR SOUL YOUR LIGHT YOUR ENERGY THAT IS YOU.

MAN IS UNIQUE BECAUSE I MADE HIM LIKE ME, NOT IN THE PHYSICAL SENSE BUT IN THE SENSE THAT I GAVE THEM THEIR POWER TO THINK, TO CREATE, TO ACHIEVE WHATEVER THEIR MINDS DESIRE. HOWEVER THESE DEMONS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONTROL YOU, THESE DEMONS THAT I ONCE LOCKED AWAY ARE CREEPING BACK IN, FOOLING MAN INTO MANY BELIEFS TO ADVANCE THEIR TECHNOLOGY AND THEIR PLANS. IF I DON'T STOP THEM THEY WILL CONSUME YOU THROUGH DECEIT AND LIES. THEY ARE THE SINS, THE DEMONS ALL INSTRUCTED BY SATAN THEIR LEADER TO DEVOUR MY CREATION IN WHATEVER MEANS POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, I WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN, I WILL DESTROY HIM FOR GOOD AND ALL HIS OFFSPRING AND FOLLOWERS. NO ONE WILL ESCAPE ME.

THERE ARE MANY OUT THERE THAT HAVE DONE NO WRONG BUT REMAIN IGNORANT TO THE HAPPENINGS ON A SPIRITUAL LEVEL THEY CONCENTRATE ON THEIR SPORTS THEIR MEDIAS THEIR OUTLETS, THEIR WAYS OF KEEPING THEM CONTROLLED. MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS CREATION IN FRONT OF THEM IS NOT THE CREATOR (THE GOD)

I WILL STOP THIS, SAVE, AS MANY THAT ARE WORTHY AND ARE NOT BLINDED BY THE BENEFITS THE NEW WORLD PROVIDES.

JESUS WAS THE SON I CREATED TO SAVE YOUR SOULS FROM THE DEMONS. IT IS THROUGH HIM YOU CAN GAIN REDEMPTION FOR YOUR SINS AGAINST MY CREATION, THROUGH THE LIFE YOU HAVE HAD TO LEAD, THE CHOICES YOU MAKE AND LESSONS YOU LEARN ALONG THE WAY.

I WILL LOOK AFTER THE CHILDREN THAT ARE STILL MINE AND BELIEVE IN ME".


I trust there was not anything left out that the voice was messaging, as I mentioned above it was difficult for my daughter to keep up with the messenger.

And now as I read this I keep thinking of planet Xena X or Nibiru as my gut feeling tells me something is definitely going on with our planet and governments around the world, something is coming and its on its way and the year 2017 keeps ringing in my mind Over the last year or two I kept waking to see my digital clock showing 333 which disturbed me so I searched for a scripture and found John 3.33 which said "He that hath received his testimony has set to his seal that God is true".

Peace Love & Friendship
firefly

 

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• Post n°82

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Sanicle Today at 1:54 pm
Oh my God, thank you SO much for posting that here Paul as I missed it on the thread firefly posted it on. When quite a few posts are made quickly new posts can be knocked off the list that scrolls, which must have happened in this case. (I hope if Mercuriel ever returns that we could go back to a longer, non-scrolling list so posts aren't missed so easily.) But back to the subject. This is the part that made my blood run cold the most:

firefly wrote:
However, a couple of months after she received this message she had a complete turn around and rejected all that was written an no longer believes in God or his son, but has mentioned that she feels there is a force in the universe. She was a vegetarian and now not only eats meat but has her own live animals for consumptions. To me it seems like someone or something has messed with her mind.

From my own experience with this type of writing a message appearing to be from a 'high' source is often how it begins to reel us in, but it can all degenerate from there. I'll reply more to firefly on the thread she initially wrote it on so as not to distract too much from Xeia's thread here.

Thanks again Paul

 

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• Post n°83

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Carol Today at 2:34 pm

"Look, a cupcake, have a taste. You like that, yes? Now, let me serve you some icing...dab slowly, feel the taste in your mouth...swallow."


Sugar intolerance. Too much sugar can make one ill.​

I'd like to get back to the sex issue and bring another perspective to it. Years back my doc game me hormones in prep for a specific type of surgery. Hormones are amazing and IMPO responsible for the "primary" sex drive.

While under the influence of the hormones I had actual visions of this enormous dragon rising up which an incredible thirst and drive. How does one control the dragon? I could write a book.

Shortly after that experience with the dragon energy was an ET mind probe visitation.. followed with the black helicopters the next day. Fact not fiction.

I viewed that initial "dragon" experience as a spiritual "test" (pass ) with many lessons to be learned at multiple levels. Also, upon further reflection it was a revelation to understand from the experience of too much hormones and not enough hormones - how one's sex drive is regulated and the dragon (Kraken) awakened.

Even sex is a different energetic experience for men and for women. It may also take on a multitude of energetic hues depending upon the circumstances and individuals involved. It can add spice or be devastating. And it can also release the dragon (passion). How the dynamics of the sexual element plays out between individuals are as varied as snowflakes.

Next, the male brain is set up differently then the female brain. Scientific fact. Men tend to be more goal oriented (the hunter dynamic) where women are more inclusive (the mother dynamic). Most people don't have a clue about their own spiritual, chemical, mental, physical dynamics, let along what is going on with the opposite sex. Yet each day there is more to learn and it's never ending. That's one of the beauties of life.


Next, I inadvertently got involved in a cult. Scientology. Inadvertently because the advertisement was a drug training program for counselors. This was in Berkeley, California back in the 70s. Each day for 3 months I participated in the training program and learned tons about the brain, mind and how to harness it's power.. even how to OBE. And each day I witnessed the inconsistencies of those who were running the program and experience a little bit more of the mind control they exhibited in their training. It's insidious how it starts. Yet one thing became clear as they worked to isolate me from family and friends (this is everyone outside of Scientology) and focus on their recruitment program along with their "financial" goals and objectives. They even wanted me to quit my practice of yoga, stay away from psychology in college (my major), move out from my husband and run their facility. This was just after 3 months. And of course there was the underlying sexual tension created between members as well just by participating in the program. (I passed that test too by sticking with my own inner sense of spiritual integrity.)

In the end when they asked me to run their facility I said,

"No thanks. A pile of shxt is a pile of shxt whether on the ground or served on a silver platter."


You see, from my perspective when someone, anyone including a group asks people to give up their own inner sense of spiritual integrity (whether it comes to spiritual practice, sex, finances, or just being honest with oneself and others) it's time to run in the opposite direction. I was lucky. It just took 3 months to learn a lesson about cults that lasted for a lifetime. It made it easy to reject the dragon each time the dragon in it's different energetic forms (both physical and non-physical) popped up throughout the years afterwards. The best lesson learned was this:

At the internal level we all have free will.
Love free will.


Choose wisely little grasshopper and keep learning from your experiences
- no matter what experiences they may be.
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Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Aquaries1111 Today at 6:34 pm

Spregovori wrote:​

There is no such thing as "equal terms" on the battlefield. There is just victory by cunning, brutality, superiority in numbers and means...or a defeat.

Some make it, some don't, why save just some, cant save them all.

I think it is not worth your time, not that it is a crime. Large majority simply does not care. They would not mind to get some of that dragon air.

Who are you helping? That few, maybe just one, wretched soul. What will that change, if anything at all.

Those who are offered the thuban "ways of things"...haven't they the free will to decide for themselves, such as yourself? Let them take one of those rings.


Look, a cupcake, have a taste. You like that, yes? Now, let me serve you some icing...dab slowly, feel the taste in your mouth...swallow.


Here a portal i open for you, now if you dare...go on...step through.

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Come on... let's step through.



Hi koR

 

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• Post n°85

Rok,

SuiGeneris Yesterday at 11:43 pm

Spregovori wrote:
There is no such thing as "equal terms" on the battlefield. There is just victory by cunning, brutality, superiority in numbers and means...or a defeat.

There is for a type of people. There is for the warrior. Warriors uphold a different set of values than everybody else and live their lives accordingly. Words like honor and loyalty are not just words to them. But only warriors understand this. Like Bruce Lee for example. You speak of physical war...this is a spiritual war too, a mental war, a metaphysical war right now that has its consequences on the physical plane as we speak...the resolution of which is still yet to be seen. Your words indicate that you think fighting in a war is futile, your actions indicate that you want to be neutral and impartial including regarding thuban playing devil's advocate...Tony is proud of you i am sure. Just because you have found nothing in your life worth fighting for doesn't mean there is actually nothing in life worth fighting for. There is always Love. There is a battlefield yes. A very real live active one and it is not just on a physical region of the planet. So there are in fact many fronts and it is all very dynamic. What you see with your physical eyes is not the all. Cunning can turn into virtue when you are trying to defend yourself and your loved ones against an evil than ensues. Cunningness, artful deception, dexterity, craftiness, being able to adapt in performance and alike skills are characteristics that not only the bad people can have but also the good people can have and should have, if they want to be able to see beyond and overcome the enemy. being brutal is ugly, but there is a very clear distinction between fighting with rage and fighting with furor and courage. If you don't understand this difference try imagining a fight between the orcs and the elves in Lord of the Rings. Defeat...If you see yourself already defeated, you will see no point in fighting. You will never give yourself any real chance of winning; then how could you expect to help anyone else from this position. Perhaps this is why you think it is not worth my time. But this is only because you still remain stuck on the very purpose of this thread. Who in you is really resenting this so? It is nice to think of a utopia, of a world without war, but then what would the alternative be? if it is something like this film "The Giver" then i don't want it.

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Spregovori wrote:
Some make it, some don't, why save just some, cant save them all.

If you can't save them all you do not save anyone? This is not clear to me, what you tried to say here. In any situation I save who I can, but you cannot save anyone if you do not save yourself first, if you wish to help by example. In a swift situation of life and death then you save according to your priorities and your heart. Maybe you think i believe i can save this world and that is what you really resent. What make look like a foolish act for you may not be for me. What may look like a selfish act for you may also be an act of kindness at the same time. What if i am selfish and only wish to save myself? I already explained why i felt i couldn't remain quiet. I am sorry if i did not explain myself to your liking. But i wanted the truth to be known, to be at least...available somewhere. I know...at least 'my' truth. The hardest battles in this end of history are one against oneself and they happen so deep...in silence...without anyone noticing. Nevertheless i know the results have great consequences that echos in other places...in other times. In any case I cannot save those who do not want to be saved...but even then, on the worst of circumstances, some women try. You do not know the immense power of resilience in women. Knowing this I bid mySelf 'Wings and good Wind', so I shall succeed in my one...selfish...act.

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Spregovori wrote:
I think it is not worth your time, not that it is a crime. Large majority simply does not care. They would not mind to get some of that dragon air.

You are trying to save me my time. It is a very nice opinion but i do no concern myself with majorities, or handle myself based on what they might or might not care. Yes, i am sure many would, hence my actions.

Spregovori wrote:
Who are you helping? That few, maybe just one, wretched soul. What will that change, if anything at all.

Maybe there is one thing you are not considering. What if this person i am helping is myself, in another time, in another place, in another body of my same lineage. And what if 'reincarnation' is happening now at the same time...then, I salute the me on them...over there.
A wretched soul is only as wretched as it remains wretched, for whence the moment it decides not to be, there the battle begins. First, to battle its very own sense of stagnation and inaction, its own fears and doubts of purpose, self worth and gain; even if it takes a brahmanic position and feels all those are merely illusions, even those illusions ultimately need a resolution...and that is a Duty only the Spirit understands. Why are humans here now...if not to give an answer to every situation that was unresolved up until now? It is time...

Spregovori wrote:
Those who are offered the thuban "ways of things"...haven't they the free will to decide for themselves, such as yourself? Let them take one of those rings.

I am not obstructing free will, I am energizing Free Will. I am shining a Light from the shadow, so that the Self could see the all and not just a portion. Only then Free Will can be protected.


Spregovori wrote:
Look, a cupcake, have a taste. You like that, yes? Now, let me serve you some icing...dab slowly, feel the taste in your mouth...swallow.

​

These words look harmless enough on their own, but the intention behind them is what matters. This is what the wretched witch said to Snow White when she offered her the nice looking apple. She told her a nice sounding story and said to trust "granny". How does this relate to Thuban? This was Tony, as Abraxasinas, in drag, embodying the dragon grand-'father' ancestral archetype...Thuban saying to us embrace the granny because they made this race and they know better. Maybe they did make this race, but do they really know better now? The angels mixed with the daughters of men, ok, but this does not mean we are to remain forever under its directives, to forever follow...to forever obey.
When we mature, we can see our own faults. We see the fault of our parents, don't we? We see the faults of our ancestors. We can also see the fault of our own makers and even of the gods. If we are diligent and we know where to look and we look well enough...we can see.

This is the Dragon outside and inside all of us during the Iron Age of the Kali Yuga.
Notice Smaug's armor is weaker, right over the place over his heart.​

This is the Dragon in the story of The Sleeping Beauty​

This is mankind, with his eyes fixed on the target's weakness because he can see it.
Resting on his son. Experience and courage resting on innocence and purity.
This is what the warrior finds worth saving.
He is protecting the child's eyes while using all the potency an impulse of youth to give an answer
to what was left unresolved before. ​

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• Post n°86

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

Sanicle Today at 1:09 am

Brilliant post Xeia.

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Sanicle Today at 1:04 am

Hi Firefly. I don’t know if you saw it but Paulbenji reposted your post here (above Oxy’s) to Xeia’s ‘Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult’ thread. That was the first time I saw it and responded as you can see below.

It was too late last night to respond more fully here (5:00am) and I wanted to sleep on it rather than just go on initial reactions as I did in the above.

As I said then I’ve experienced the same type of writing myself and I ‘played’ with it for many years to see if any tangible results would come of it. As in your daughter’s case, I had to learn to write very quickly to keep up with the ‘voice in my head’ that just appeared out of the blue one day during contemplation. Like your daughter I’d often sit down alone and write out my deeper thoughts on things, worrying about the state of the world, and wasn’t in to eating lots of meat. So I’m thinking that I can relate to her experience and that it may have the same type of source.

At this point, this being a public forum, I’d like to say that I wouldn’t pay to much attention to the dire warnings in what your daughter was given. I was given a similar one back in the ‘90s in which the talk was of the same type of events occurring in 2000, as so many other ‘channellers’ were given at that point in time. To my mind the ‘Book of Revelations’ itself could even be from the same type of source. The point is that instilling fear and a belief in humanity’s stupidity/evil and need for punishment is part of the stock in trade when one is contacted in such a way. But, of course, the one they contact is one of the ‘good’ ones, which is why they’ve earned this ‘spiritual counsel’, the inference being that if you continue to listen they can show you the ‘right way’ and give you the answers you seek.

From my own research I’ve learned that humanity has been expecting the dire warnings in the ‘Book of Revelations’ to occur ‘any day’ for hundreds of years as there is always such discord on this planet. And I have to ask you how many other ‘revelations’ you’ve read that others have received that have failed to come true. The 2012 debacle being only one case in point, the September 2015 claims being another.

I was worried re what you said about your daughter’s change in behaviour particularly because you said she’s changed her beliefs and now only eats meat, slaughtering her own animals. Eating a bit of meat when you are sensitive enough to be contacted by ‘the other realms’ like this is not such a bad thing as meat can keep you more grounded. Vegetarianism made me far too open to influence. The slaughtering part is what concerned me most as you know who and what likes to feed on the energies of that slaughter, which may be an indication of the type of beings that may be around her now. I can’t help but wonder how your daughter is generally now……..happy, sad, or otherwise. That would say a lot regarding if there is anything negative around her still or not. And how communicative, or not, she is with you about her inner world.

If you haven’t already I would suggest you read Xeia’s brilliant post here on her thread which also deals with such things: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t8603p75-my-liberation-from-the-thuban-sex-cult#119120 . And ask you to PM or email me if you’d like to discuss this further with me where we could go into things a little more deeply.

 

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• Post n°87

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

mudra Yesterday at 3:47 pm
Spregovori,

Regarding your post on A and B personalities.
Yes these attitudes are to be found in human relations.
We can either choose to go A and succumb to the overwhelming force of self importance.
Or we can choose to learn everything there is to know about this force and outgrow it and be free from it.
Something in us has to make that choice if we ever want to know the full array of our resources and potentialities
as spiritual beings. Xeia speaks of the warrior type and this is exactly what it is .Indeed not the common one you find
on battle fields but the one whose Heart is his compass and dedicates his life to impeccability. He grows wings over his
own shadow and stands where everything else in the world would tell him otherwise.

Impeccability


Love Always
mudra

 

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• Post n°88

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

SuiGeneris Yesterday at 11:36 pm

Sanicle wrote:​

There’s much been written about the appetites of the reptilian species and how they feed on our (mainly) negative emotional and sexual energies and it’s impossible not to notice that the instructions given to the Thubans, flowing over to their readers, promotes the expression of such, both openly and subtly. Smorgasbord time for them through their links, clearly with the intention of making it a bigger and bigger feast over time. As part of this pattern so often see, our softer emotions, like love and compassion, are used to manipulate us to their cause initially during that process, but once they believe they have you hooked, the instruction begins to come through that you should think more like they do, without such ‘weak sentimentality’ if you truly want to be one with them. Ho-hum. (To be fair though, I can see, on a purely mental level, why they perceive our gentler emotions to be a waste of energetic expression when you have the type of goals they do and when such emotions can so readily be ignored by such as them.)​

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To my mind, looking at the situation in purely black and white terms, if Tony is the main facilitator between them and the rest of humanity then he should have been strengthened by all the energies presumably flowing through him, both ways, particularly if the source truly is the ‘Logos’ as claimed. You can look at that dynamic so many different ways, none of them flattering to the source of these directives. Parasites………yes.​

In its beginnings, Tony spoke a lot about Integration. It caught my attention because i knew about the concept of integrating the shadow, and what better way to practice self taming than in a place where everything is freely exchanged without any taboos, mirrored back at you. This was the theory presented anyway. What was most alluring to me was the possibility to actually put into practice what we as people already knew in theory. A chance of overcoming the faults of the self i thought. It was a fascinating idea for me to see that attempted in a group of many, or at least in a pair. I became intrigued about what it could manifest if successful. During the first couple of years we talked about negative emotions but in a set environment of mutual respect and friendship, so there were also many positive emotions involved, not only talked about but actually felt. Speaking for myself i can say at least i felt them. So it felt safe to be involved in a project when you are assured your opinion has value, and i was under the impression my ideas were being integrated into the greater structure in order to help a common goal of helping bringing in the new world as we were told. They weren't. Only my energy was, and it was being integrated to help the common goal of a single Logos directive. The truth only became apparent much later. There was never any real debate on the inside, whenever it was attempted, you could see there was a single guiding force all leading up to one mindframe. This happened very slowly and very subtle on the mental level.

You can see how in the initial Q&A thread for example, Abraxasinas never outright negates or opposes anyone expressing an idea or hinting at something, even if it was anti thuban but instead he would blend it into a greater thought thereby evading direct confrontation. This was greater thought eating lesser thought in action, not in actuality, but in appearance; with the intention of making it a bigger and bigger feast overtime like you said, a feast that would feed only one agenda. Later i realized the integration i thought was supposed to happen on a greater scale was not possible because each single individual in Thuban were not integrated themselves first. That was still in process. But the integration that was in process was not integration of the Self but an integration of the many selves into a greater one and there is a world of difference between these. Actually these are completely opposite paradigms.

It took about 3 and a half years for the fault, for Thuban's own nemesis to become manifested in the physical. So for some of us, the weakness of Thuban as a group did not lie in either the lack or abundance of emotional expression; it lied in the lack of Self direction. It is a program faulty in that it cannot assimilate already individualized humans (nothing can), but nonetheless it can be super efficient in assimilating those who have still not achieved Self individuation or who simply are never meant to. Is this the reason why it is present right now on this planet? I feel it is. It is not coincidence it started when it did and why it follows a very detailed precise timeline. Then in essence, and back to the issue of feelings, promoting the expression of emotion is not necessarily a bad thing; and not just some, but all of them, the entire range of emotions, not only subtly or mentally but openly physical as well. Many become afraid of expressing emotions and look upon them as something negative or inferior, but they're not. There is an idea that says whatever you resist persists, in the same way, whatever you repress has power over you. Thuban uses the realm of emotions (the soul) in a misleading way, but that does not mean that emotions are negative or would lead human kind to entropy...on the contrary; they lead back to life and become negentropic if and when they are properly understood and guided by the Self. If not, they would inevitably serve another master.

The inability to overcome and rise above personal emotional issues or repressing emotions then becomes apparent and you can see which archetype that person is still crucified in when these issues remain unresolved. Three and a half years and two failed relationships later, Abraxasinas was too despondent to sound politically correct anymore so he became insensitive and a despot; renouncing not only common courtesy but all human love and suggesting others to do the same. This resulted in the further alienation of most members and his resulting resentment due to what he considered and called changed or "misplaced loyalties or affiliations". This split happened about 3 and a half years ago and i remember thinking to myself, just as the world outside seems to be splitting into two, the mini world of Thuban also is.

Sanicle wrote:​

I was taught long ago that the mere act of closing a door for privacy on this level has the effect of presenting a barrier to those on the subtle levels as well, as our WILL to have that privacy for ourselves makes it so there. This has been proven to me to be truth. (Actually, just this past weekend, I was visited by something nasty. I appear to have developed clairolfactance over past months and the powerful stench of this being was that of rotten meat. I didn't notice it until I went to the bathroom and shut the door and that's when the stench came to me, accompanied by strong rattling of said door. It had to give up in the end as I had no fear of it so no link/hook was able to be made with me.) As is said so often, what you believe, but moreso what you KNOW to be true, is your defense against all from those realms. They can only do to you what you believe they can and/or allow them to.​

What caused the rattling of the door, and why does this seem to happen to some people and not others? What do you think is the determining factor for these 'visitations'?


Xeia

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• Post n°89

Re: My Liberation from the Thuban Sex Cult

SuiGeneris Today at 1:20 am

mudra wrote:​

I think we enter in cult like relashionship when we give someone our trust so fully that we go go there heart and soul. And in a way this gives us power for we now have a group backing us but it also makes us blind or careless as we forget everything is subject to change always.It is our responsability to constantly define our goals with clarity and accept when the time comes that these may not be in alignment with those of the group we gave our allegiance to in the first place. That way we can outgrow any place we feel trapped in and keep our own space whole.
When I hear of your story Sui I can't help but being reminded of the butterfly finding it's way out of the cocoon realizing the bounderies that were once his to grow no longer serve their purpose and must be left behind.

Much Love for you

mudra​

What you said about trust is true and perhaps i was naive, but i never liked doing things half way or whenever i liked something i always put all my heart into it otherwise it doesn't feel real. It is true that there is power in numbers but i was never after power, i was after the secret of Love. I might have been careless at some point but i wasn't blinded, at least not by me. i didn't change my essence, the direction of the group is what changed because its guru changed and we were all blinded by the deception. I am aware of fluidity...the realm of the soul is fluid. Everything is subject to change is a great truth yes, my thoughts change, my feelings change, but i feel that Spirit never changes. I liked what you said about defining your goals. In my case, my goal is to achieve total freedom, then my orientation is in place and my strategy put in action but these strategies are ever fluid and i must redefine them as i go. I must have room to do that on my own...by my Self, but it ended up that Thuban never gave us that choice. A 'freedom' give by another...bestowed upon you IF you follow this or that directive is no freedom at all.

Perhaps these butterfly wings is what some found attractive and that is why they reached out to me over the years. I have to say i have felt responsible for them for quite a long time because i brought them into Thuban and i have to admit it did become an emotional burden for me at some point. I was the one sort of in charge of 'public relations' all throughout social media and i thought i was doing a good deed by bringing them in. After a few years i was relieved to see that most of them left on their own and about two years ago i simply stopped adding people to the group chats because if anything bad was to happen to those guys (some in their late teens) as a result of having direct contact with TR, i didn't want that in my conscience.

ThanXs Mudra.


Xeia