De Vere Lines

why is someone trying to delete online discussions ???

fortunately; i have a copy of them:

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Justin Durand
1/6/2014 at 11:55 AM
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This line really needs a lot of work. I'd be happy to pitch in but it will have to be slowly.



Justin Durand
1/7/2014 at 12:17 PM
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Looking at this tree, one place to start would be to disconnect Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire from his parents. His origin is unknown, as described in the About section of his profile.
Thoughts?



Justin Durand
1/7/2014 at 1:21 PM
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In this case "obscure" is a polite way of saying there are so many guesses that no one wants to take the time to go through them all



Justin Durand
1/7/2014 at 1:55 PM
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Okay, I made that change. Next we should look at Béatrix (I) de Bourbourg, châtelaine de Bourbourg, héritière de Guînes. This is part of clearing out the underbrush so we can tackle the main problems (which should fall into place).
This Béatrix should be Béatrix of Guînes. The About section shows that at some point she has been merged with a different Beatrice, the wife of Robert Wymarc. She has also been either confused with or merged with the Béatrix who was wife of Baudouin of Ardres.
Agreed?



S***** L**** Schwenger
1/7/2014 at 9:28 PM
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Why did the 'de vere' who published the book, but; had an entirely different last name, feel he was the next in line in the de vere lineage ?
is his profile a public one, now, that he is dead ?



Justin Durand
1/7/2014 at 9:36 PM
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Do you mean HRH Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg? His birth name was Weir, from an old Scottish family. He had a theory that the Weirs were originally de Veres, but so far no serious scholar has accepted his theory. As far as I can discover his only evidence was the similarity of the two names.



Thomas Louis Kalani O'Kelly PRO
1/11/2014 at 12:53 AM
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Okay...
Tracing, Nicholas Thomas Logan Weir -aka- "HRH Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenburg" back along the (his) patralineal line back to "Archibald Weir (Thompson)"- (then crossing to the matralineal line)-"Margaret Weir" and then, continuing back along the (her) patralineal line, traces back to:
"Thomas Weir of Blackwood" and his patralineal line is, directly, traced back to "Alberic / Aubrey de Vere--Agnes of Essex"
Where does Nick's lineal 'theory' begin and end?



Thomas Louis Kalani O'Kelly PRO
1/11/2014 at 12:54 AM
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Alberic / Aubrey de Vere--Agnes of Essex
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Ralph de Vere
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Baltradus de Weir (Ware)
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Walter de Vere
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Rudolphus de Vere (weir)
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Thomas de Vere
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Richardus de Vere (weir)
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Thomas de Vere
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Buan Weir
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Rothaldus l Weir
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Thomas Weir
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Robert Weir
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Thomas Weir of Blackwood--Aegida Somerville
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Duncan Weir
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James Weir of Blackwood--Euphemia Weir of Blackwood (Hamilton)
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William Weir of Stonebyres--Elizabeth Hamilton
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Thomas Weir of Kirkton--Jean Weir of Kirkton (Somerville)
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Major Thomas Weir
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Thomas Weir
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John Weir
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Andrew Weir
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Margaret Weir--Archibald Weir (Thompson)
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Robert Weir--Rachael Weir (Stewart)
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Robert Weir--Sarah Weir (Graham)
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John Weir--Mary Weir (Logan)
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Thomas Logan Weir--Anne Grant Weir (Macdonnell)
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James Weir--Natalie Weir (Hopgood)
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Nicholas Thomas Logan Weir



S***** L**** Schwenger
1/11/2014 at 1:28 PM
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is this also a dragon lineage - http://www.geschichte-online.info/path_inhalt/Thueringen.pdf
Hoger, King of the Thüringians-
Hoger, King of the Thüringians is your 54th great grandfather.
or, is part of it - The Queen Bees ?



Thomas Louis Kalani O'Kelly PRO
1/11/2014 at 1:44 PM
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Understanding and tracing Dragon descent, is not always easy, based on lineal descent alone- when many records are missing, destroyed or never existed at all.
Here are some clues to the origins of derkesthai heritage:
Historical Origins
• In medieval times there were kingdoms, called White Serbia and White Croatia, located not in the Balkan peninsula but in Bohemia and southeastern Germany. The signfificance of white in Slavic languages for proper names such as White Russia is western. White Serbia and White Croatia were kingdoms established by Sarmatians over Slavic populations. The Sarmatian ruling class was eventually assimilated into the Slavic culture and some of the Serbians and Croatian moved into the Balkans where their descendants now live. However not all migrated. There are remnants of the Slavic White Serb population of eastern Germany still there, known as Sorbs or Wends.
• Some the aristocratic families of Poland were founded by Sarmatians and the family crests reflect this by the appearance of particular symbol, a sort of hash mark.
• The principal tribe of the Sarmatians in later history was the Alans. The Alans show up in odd places.
• The Roman Empire brought Alans into southern France to help control the Celts.
• Marco Polo wrote of finding a town of ten thousand Alans in South China in his journeys.
• One branch of the Alans took refuge in the Caucasus Mountains where they became known as the Ossetes. Joseph (Stalin) Djugashvili's Father was Osset and his mother was Georgian, so Stalin was half Sarmatian.
San-Gra'al
• The Sarmatians adopted the dragon motif from the Han Empire of China. The image of the dragon was brought to Britain when the Roman Emperor Marcus Aureleus sent 5500 Sarmatian warriors to Britain to guard against the attacks by the Celts of northern Britain. This was in the third century A.D. This may have been the source of the legends of King Arthur. Arthur's father was Uther Pendragon. Pendragon means dragon head which came from the image of a dragon's head which he carried on his shield. The altar in the Sarmatian's religion seems to have been a sword embedded in a stone.



Thomas Louis Kalani O'Kelly PRO
1/11/2014 at 1:56 PM
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The 'Out of Africa' genetic theories are nonsense when you find genealogical records tracing back thousands of years in India. Genealogical record was kept on small slabs and stales of stone with unbroken lines of three bloodlines of the Royal house of India tracing back over 35,000 years. The records continue back further but many of the slabs and stales have been damaged by time, stolen by thieves or destroyed by wars.



Thomas Louis Kalani O'Kelly PRO
1/11/2014 at 2:10 PM
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This discovery is going to change everything we 'think' we know about our genetic heritage:
http://www.washington.edu/news/2013/12/12/scientists-discover-doubl...



Deisi Vaz Pinto
1/11/2014 at 2:21 PM
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HI Ssusan, I think the Thuringians were more one of those german mixture of blood from ostrogoths+goths=saxons+francs at the time of Attila, some fighting togheter and some against huns, about the III/IV century. We can see Hoger here, between goths of the 44th and ostrogoths of the 46th generations:
Gjúki, King of the Goths, is your 44th great grandfather Gjúki, King of the Goths
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Valaravans dos Ostrogodos, 330-409, Scythia, presente Ukaine, is your 45th great grandfather Valaravans
Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor, is your 45th great grandfather Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor
Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor, is your 45th great grandfather Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor
Annia Galeria Faustina Minor, wife of Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor, is your 45th great grandmother Annia Galeria Faustina Minor, Roman Empress
Gaius Asinius Quadratus Protimus, is your 45th great grandfather Gaius Asinius Quadratus Protimus
Heytir Heytsson, Norway, 680, is your 45th great grandfather Heytir Heytsson
Crioda, King of the West Saxons, is your 45th great grandfather Crioda, king of West Saxons Crioda, king of West Saxons
Hoger, King of the Thüringians, is your 45th great grandfather Hoger, King of the Thüringians
Teutomer, a Frankish general, is your 45th great grandfather Teutomer, a Frankish general
Imaam Mudrika ('Amr) bin Imaam Ilyaas, estimated before 233, Mecca, Saudi Arabia, is your 45th great grandfather Mudrikah (Amir) بن إلياس
Iotapa of Emesa is your 45th great grandmother Iotape of Emesa, Queen of Nabataea
Uldin, King of the Huns, is your 45th great grandfather Uldin, King of the Huns
Saint Eucherius, Bishop of Lyons is your 45th great grandfather Saint Eucherius, bishop of Lyons
Magnus Maximus Flavius, Roman Usurper is your 45th great grandfather Magnus Maximus, Western Roman Emperor
Dag, the Powerful, King(The Dagling or Dögling dynasty was a legendary clan of the petty kingdom Ringerike what today is Norway. It was descended from a Dag the Great), is your 45th great grandfather Agni "the Powerful" Dagsson, King in Sweden
Jorund, King of Uppsala & Sweden Yngvasson, is your 45th great grandfather King Jörund Yngvasson of Uppsala
Gwrast Lledlwn "the Ragged" ap Ceneu, is your 45th great grandfather Gwrwst Ledlwm 'half bare' ap Ceneu, King of Rheged
Prasutagus, Brenin o Iceni, is your 45th great grandfather Prasutagus, king of the Iceni
Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni, is your 45th great grandmother Boudicca, queen of the Iceni
Domangart mac Fergus, Rí na Dál Riata, is your 45th great grandfather Domangart mac Fergus, Rí na Dál Riata
Mong Fionn O'Hailill, is your 45th great grandmother Mongfind (Lebor Gabála Érenn)
Berik, King of the Goths is your 45th great grandfather Berik, King of the Goths
Amal "The Fortunate", DYNASTY of the AMAL GOTHS, is your 45th great grandfather Amal "The Fortunate"
Liamachus Langoman, is your 45th great grandfather Liamachus Langoman
Godinga Scridefini, wife of Liamachus Langoman, is your 45th great grandmother Godinga Scridefini
Genseris, King of BRITAIN, is your 45th great uncle Genseris, King of Britain
Saint Claudia, is your 45th great aunt Saint Claudia
Quintus Cornelius Pudens, Roman senator and early Christian, is your 45th great uncle's father Quintus Cornelius Pudens
Saint Pudens, is your 45th great uncle Saint Pudens
Berik, King of the Goths, is your 45th great grandfather Berik, King of the Goths
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Vultwulf, Prince of the Greuthungi(people of estepes, “Ostrogoths”), 300-370, Scythia present Ukraine, is your 46th great grandfather Vultwulf, Prince of the Greuthungi



hazel Edna Melroy
1/19/2014 at 3:14 PM
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My birth name is Waer <---- this how my branch of our family spelled it, my 8th great grandparents used two different spellings Wyer on their marriage record and Waeir on their death records, many of the folks despite spelling variations are related and do descend from the de Vere family. The Alberic/Aubrey"Sanglier" de Vere, Sheriff of Berkshire mentioned above is my 26th great grandfather. I have found in my 34 years of genealogy research that a person maybe considered scholarly but that does not always mean their beliefs are correct or accurate.Those of us who have done research into our family know of course who our ancestors are but confusion from other sources or those who may not have done the research is to be expected. There is a family who also uses the surname of Weir but they are not descendants of the same family as the others,Their surname was Mcnair in Ireland and was anglicized as Weir. Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Iain Uidhir ‘son of sallow John’. This form is associated mainly with Ross-shire.Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac an Oighre ‘son of the heir’. This form is associated mainly with Perthshire.Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac an Mhaoir ‘son of the steward or keeper’. The same name in Ireland was commonly Anglicized as Weir.



Thomas Louis Kalani O'Kelly PRO
1/19/2014 at 7:47 PM
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Thank you Hazel.
There isn't anything wrong with scholarly research, especially with genealogy but I find it funny that- most of the time- those 'scholars' haven't anything at all, what-so-ever, to do with the families they're researching. A very unhealthy obsession, to be so enamored with Royals and Nobles... And to think that many of these scholars 'think' and theorize that 'ennoblement' comes form a paper patent... nonsense!
Hell, people get degrees in the history... Of these divine bloodlines.
To be 'Royal' and/or 'Noble' is not evidenced by hand written decrees or fancy gold leafed patents, It is recognized as a Noble and/or Royal bloodline 'Race'.



Thomas Louis Kalani O'Kelly PRO
1/19/2014 at 8:39 PM
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As for 'Dragon' descent or Seraphic-genes, .03% (".003%" - Webmaster Bill of the original dragoncourt.org website) of the population, roughly a little over 8mil-people, would or could actually claim some sort of, legitimate derkesthai heritage.
Isaiah 14:28-30
28 In the year that King Achaz died, this prophecy came:
29 Do not rejoice, P’leshet (Palestine), any of you,
that the rod which struck you is broken;
for out of the snake’s root will come a viper,
and his offspring will be a flying fiery serpent.
30 While the firstborn of the poor graze
and the needy lie down in safety,
I will kill off your root with famine
and slaughter the rest of you. - Eh-Yah speaking.



hazel Edna Melroy
1/19/2014 at 10:49 PM
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TY Thomas. I agree with you there isn't anything wrong with scholarly research but it is disturbing to see the thoughts and opinions those scholars share when they have nothing what so ever to do with the families they are researching..



S***** L**** Schwenger
10/25/2014 at 10:58 AM
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so, how does he get that name on a passport ?
HRH Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg - when his real name is: Nicholas Thomas Logan Weir ?



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 12:11 PM
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does Alberic / Aubrey "Sanglier" de Vere, Sheriff of Berkshire

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Aubrey I de VERE?
http://gw.geneanet.org/capreolus?lang=fr;p=aubrey+i;n=de+vere
Aubrey II Ou Albéric de VERE 1062-1141 marié avec Alice de CLARE
on geni=Husband of Adelize de Clare
Lord Alberic de Vere, II
if so we need to redone all the name in proper french
Adeliza de Claremont = Adélaïde de CLERMONT =mother of Alice de CLARE
need alot of work



Erica Howton C
10/25/2014 at 12:46 PM
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Martin - it's medieval English, the Old Norman language, and Latin. Added as language modules "in addition to" normalized English as used by historians world wide.



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 1:11 PM
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not normalised .plz translated is more apropriate madam
Howton , and here as the source said its all french
we keep to remind that latin came from religious group to push their idea genealogy go further than only idea
and i need to say about medieval english is all french ppl we are talking about (language speak)
le sanglier dont sound very english to me,,
does those link i provide are acurate to the profile i mention above?



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 1:20 PM
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http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/u/t/Hannah-L-Cutts/WEB...
Aubrey (Alberic I) de Vere (son of Alphonso de Vere and Countess Katherine of Flanders) was born 1040 in Ver, Cotentin, Normandy, France, and died 1112 in Colne Priory, Essex, England. He married Beatrice de Gand on 1059, daughter of Henry Castellan de Gand and Sibilla Manasses.



Erica Howton C
10/25/2014 at 1:21 PM
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Martin -
I used the term "normalized" as that is the descriptive word, in English, for historic names rendered for contemporary usage. It is "standardized" for use in textbooks and encyclopedias etc.
I think the site http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CONTENTS.htm is more what is used for these medieval ancestors.
For me the medieval Latin name would be most helpful soonest - old Norman is different from contemporary French (I was just listening to linguists on it ...)



Erica Howton C
10/25/2014 at 1:27 PM
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http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/english.shtml
English, Old English, and Anglo-Norman Names



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 1:29 PM
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http://books.google.ca/books?id=8giaoVUufYkC&amp;pg=PA22-IA8&amp;lp...
it fit parentage of Beatrice de Gand we can add them



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 1:33 PM
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Unknown Profile
http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000027240425710
why in profile parentage dont show?



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 2:26 PM
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;sour...
pedegree



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 2:39 PM
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while cheking i notice this
Béatrix de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, dame de Luzarches
Daughter of Hugues I de Breteuil, comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis et Marguerite de Ramerupt, dame de Roucy
Wife of Mathieu I, comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise
http://gw.geneanet.org/favrejhas?lang=fr;p=emma;n=de+clermont+en+be...
acording to the site
Parents
Renaud Ier de CLERMONT-EN-BEAUVAISIS , né vers 1050 , décédé en 1102 à l’âge de peut-être 52 ans , Comte de Clermont en Beauvaisis
Marié vers 1080 julien avec
Marguerite de MONTDIDIER , née vers 1045 , décédée après 1103
Mathieu Ier de BEAUMONT-SUR-OISE , Seigneur de Beaumont, Comte de Beaumont , né - Beaumont-sur-Oise, 95260, Val-d'Oise, France , décédé en 1155 , Ecuyer (Parents : H Yves III de BEAUMONT-SUR-OISE , Comte de Beaumont sur Oise †1059 & F Adélaïde de GOURNAY †1099 ) dont
not fit in



Erica Howton C
10/25/2014 at 3:50 PM
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Martin
Maybe this is a better site for you to study, the Geni tree looks correct to me.
http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Clermont-Beauvaisis-Nesle.pdf
Page 3
Children of Hugues ll de Clermont & Marguerite de Roucy
Beatrix (Emme) de Clermont
Married Mathieu de Beaumont



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 4:07 PM
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this is what i do non profesional i am headed with pro genealogist
Yves III de BEAUMONT-SUR-OISE , Comte de Beaumont sur Oise , décédé le 22 mai 1059 , Chambrier de France
Marié avec
Adélaïde de GOURNAY not yves 2
http://gw.geneanet.org/favrejhas?lang=fr;p=mathieu;n=de+beaumont+su...
french are very acurate with genealogy

 

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Erica Howton C
10/25/2014 at 4:32 PM
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Martin I need the Geni link
Is this the profile you mean?
Yves III "le Jeune", comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise
Data conflicts need to be resolved but i am not comfortable to do it.



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 10:46 PM
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Mathieu I, comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise
Son of Yves II "le Clerc", comte de Beaumont sur Oise et Adélaïde de Gournay
http://gw.geneanet.org/favrejhas?lang=fr;p=mathieu;n=de+beaumont+su...
Parents
Yves III de BEAUMONT-SUR-OISE , Comte de Beaumont sur Oise , décédé le 22 mai 1059 , Chambrier de France
Marié avec
Adélaïde de GOURNAY



Martin RhNegativ
10/25/2014 at 11:19 PM
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Unknown Father of Aubrey de Vere
Alphonsus de Vere, comte de Guînes
ready to merge



Justin Durand
10/25/2014 at 11:38 PM
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Don't merge them. The father of Aubrey de Vere is unknown.



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 12:46 AM
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http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/u/t/Hannah-L-Cutts/WEB...
some one have worked before on this



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 12:54 AM
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Né le : 1000
Hedingham, Essex, England
Décès : 1076 (76)
circa 1000
Ver, Manche, Lower Normandy, France
Décès : décembre 1076 (76)
just coincidence maybe loll
Cotentin, Normandy, Ver, France
the amateur genealogy that i am have figure this? nop some 1 have allready made the job before
btw justin i was cheking for line what does mean (sans tache in a moto of family ?)



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 11:20 AM
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http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Vere-290
Aubrey (Aubrey I) "Alberic, Earl of Oxford" de Vere
Born December 16, 1030 in Ver, Manche, Normandy, Francemap
Son of Alphonse de Vere and Katherine (Flandre) de Vere
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of Beatrice (Gand) de Vere — married 1061 in Hedingham,,Essex, Englandmap
even those who have worked on those line are wrong?
we need to contac mr Michael Yeats and say that he do false genealogy
Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire



Justin Durand
10/26/2014 at 11:25 AM
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Please read the profile notes for Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire.



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 11:25 AM
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oh the name spelling have change
Alphonse de Vere Katherine (Flandre) De Flandre



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 11:31 AM
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i have take reading in part but its not complete bio i go with evidence from other that have worked freely on this mr Swanström
and as you may look at
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Vere-290
and other info that i have pasted it is ok



Justin Durand
10/26/2014 at 12:35 PM
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Wikitree is an amateur site like Geni. It is like looking at Geni to prove Wikitree is wrong. Instead, you have to look for better sources.
Try this one. It is linked in the profile notes.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#...
Or just look at French Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albéric_de_Vere



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 1:00 PM
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i have realy try to read the first link you provide mr Swanström
but it was normalized english as madam Howton say before from another idea with alot of eronous name (translation) not to mention.
you have probably look at consequence ( dont know a word in english ) of merging the 2
Unknown Father of Aubrey de Vere
Alphonsus Count of Ghesnes de Vere, comte de Guînes
it all change the view of nobility ( all side)



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 1:17 PM
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http://www.geni.com/path/Martin+is+related+to+Unknown-Father-of-Aub...
http://www.geni.com/path/G-Blondeau+is+related+to+Unknown-Father-of...
http://www.geni.com/path/Martin+is+related+to+Alphonsus-de-Vere?fro...
http://www.geni.com/path/F-Lepage+is+related+to+Alphonsus-de-Vere?f...
it dont say alot i agree but if you notice i dont have mutch english into those branche so i can only imagine if those profile where merged



Justin Durand
10/26/2014 at 1:22 PM
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Martin, it's always a struggle to fix problems when people merge profiles that shouldn't be merged. I locked more fields on Unknown Father to help keep this profile from being contaminated.



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 1:33 PM
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contamined //// its like illegitimate once again lolll
we dont genealogy to keed locked on geni as the site sugjest
i got another discution pending
http://www.geni.com/discussions/142242?msg=979915



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 4:52 PM
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any idea mr Swanström madam Howton of parentage? you acept that a good long genealogy and proven has a stop on this site
maybe in 500 years after all the logs on internet and records been digitalyse(and mysteriously disapear) i will agree with you 2 that we dont have parentage



Erica Howton C
10/26/2014 at 5:36 PM
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Martin: Geni says: Alberic / Aubrey "Sanglier" de Vere, Sheriff of Berkshire is your 27th great grandfather.!
I do not feel comfortable that the evidence submitted thus far, or the historical records I am aware of, supports anything except
"Parents unknown."



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 5:40 PM
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i doubt myself or acuracy madam Howton 27th great grandfather i am sur geni miss few generation and alot of sibling...
parents know from french genealogy site!
the works have been done
do reshearch its available to public.



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 5:47 PM
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29th gf now



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 5:53 PM
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i think after reread you where talking about you be related to
Erica Howton
and my reply to
i doubt myself or acuracy madam Howton 27th great grandfather i am sur geni miss few generation and alot of sibling...
was from me.... i am as geni say
29th great grandfather.
just in case
martin



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 5:53 PM
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Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire
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Erica Howton C
10/26/2014 at 6:43 PM
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Martin - yes, I would doubt the descent line from Alberic to me on Geni is 100% accurate, and my priority is to validate backwards, from me, checking each link & validating. Using this method I am, after 4 years, at about year 1650 . On some lines
So it will take me another 16 years to validate a year 1000 ancestor.
An argument "it's a French genealogy site therefore it's right" is meaningless.



Martin RhNegativ
10/26/2014 at 7:10 PM
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i belive also your line is 100%

for mine i doubt those 29 gf i can go up just by french sides as for parents
(not on geni) for now
so you think parent maybe english ?
lets try to found them



בן
4/4/2015 at 8:03 PM
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Yes.
Let's try to find them, Cousin Martin.



Martin RhNegativ
4/4/2015 at 8:25 PM
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benjamin
i wil read all the work and informative you can add in this discution



Dr Will Jr (G#- RY5777771) PRO
3/29/2021 at 4:25 PM
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Prasutagus, Brenin o Iceni links removed? Why?
Caradog ap Bran, King of Siluria is your 54th great grandfather.
You
→ Dr Wilton George McDonald, Sr
your father → William Edward McDonald
his father → John William McDonald
his father → James (grandson of James Baillie) MacDonald
his father → Janet of Kinlochmoidart MacDonald, of Long Point
his mother → Alastair Og Macdonald, of Kylesbeg
her father → Ranald MacDonald, 3rd of Kinlochmoidart
his father → Alexander MacDonald, 2nd of Kinlochmoidart
his father → John MacDonald, 1st of Kinlochmoidart
his father → Allan MacDonald, 9th Chief of Clan Ranald
his father → Margaret MacDonald of Ardnamurchan
his mother → Helen Campbell
her mother → Colin Campbell, 1st Lord of Glenorchy
her father → Sir Duncan Campbell of Lochow, 1st Lord Campbell
his father → Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow, 13th Knight of Lochow
his father → Archibald More Campbell of Lochow
his father → Helena Menteith, of Lennox
his mother → Margaret of Mar, Lady Lennox
her mother → Elen ferch Llywelyn
her mother → Llewelyn Fawr ab Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd
her father → Margred of Powys
his mother → Madog ap Maredudd, King of Powys
her father → Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Brenin of Powys
his father → Bleddyn ap Cynfyn, King of Powys
his father → Angharad verch Maredudd
his mother → Maredudd, King of Deheubarth
her father → Angharad verch Llewelyn
his mother → N.N. ferch Merfyn
her mother → Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr
her father → Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons
his father → Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
his father → Gwriad ap Elidir
his father → Elidir ap Sandde
his father → Celeinion verch Tudwal
his mother → Tudwal ap Anarawd, Brenin Ynys Manau
her father → Anarawd Gwalch-crwn ap Merfyn, Brenin Ynys Manau
his father → Merfyn Mawr ap Cynfyn, Brenin Ynys Manau
his father → Cynfyn ap Anllech
his father → Anllech ap Tudwal
his father → Tudwal ap Rhun
his father → Rhun ap Neithon
his father → Neithon ap Senyllt Hael
his father → Senyllt Hael ap Dingad
his father → Dingad ap Tudwal
his father → Tudwal ab Ednyfed
his father → Ednyfed ap Anwn Dynod
his father → Antonius Donatus Gregorius
his father → St. Elen Lwyddog 'of the Host' of Britain
his mother → Eudaf Hen ab Einudd
her father → Einudd ap Gwrddwfyn, King of Cernyw
his father → Gwrddwfin ap Cwrrig
his father → Cwrrig Goruc Mawr ap Meirchion
his father → Meirchion Fawr Filwr ab Owain
his father → Owain ap Cyllin
his father → Coellyn ap Caradog
his father → Caradog ap Bran, King of Siluria
his father



Jeffery Mark Washington
3/29/2021 at 7:00 PM
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I am also curoous. Which begs the question. When a person does a search, like the one above, and a lineage is made, then that link is removes, as clearly in the above case, it was, I think... And this is just my opinion here. i think that a log file should be created at the bottom of the page that shows what the link "used" to be... I guess what I'm saying is.. The owners of these profiles are apparently able to make changes without recording why nor documenting the previous changes so, the best answer right now anyone could give Wil is, "because he wanted to", lol... This site so far as I've seen is a great site... Thwre is just alot of grey area open right now as to how the data is managed... And that happens to be my speciality, data management. ~



Erica Howton C
3/29/2021 at 9:25 PM
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<private> Washington we do have revisions tab and discussions from profile. I can say that our Welsh curating team has been clarifying and sourcing for a while now, so changes in Ancient Wales should be for the better.



S***** L**** Schwenger
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is this the top of the KNONW de Vere lineages ???
Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1030
Ver, Manche, Lower Normandy, France
Death: September 01, 1112 (77-86)
Earls Colne, Essex, England (United Kingdom)
Place of Burial: Colne Priory (which he founded), Essex, England
Immediate Family:
Son of Unknown Father of Aubrey de Vere and Unknown Mother of Aubrey de Vere
Husband of Beatrice Castellan de Gand
Father of Geoffrey de Vere; Lord Alberic de Vere, II; Roger de Vere; William de Vere; Roheise (Roesia) de Vere; Guy de Vere; Alice de Vere; Robert de Vere and Maud de Vere

 

Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire is your 25th great grandfather.
You
susan lynne schwenger

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Lyn aka Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother

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Viola Mae Drury - Handy
her mother

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Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury or Dr. George W.H. Drury
her father

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Charles Alfred Drury
his father

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Richard Drury
his father

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Joseph E. Drury aka J.E.D. of Kenilworth Farm
his father

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Joseph Drury
his father

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Joseph Drury
his father

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John Drury
his father

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Joseph Drury
his father

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Sir John Drury
his father

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Robert Drury, of Docking
his father

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John Drury, of Godwick
his father

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John Drury, Jr., Esq
his father

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John Drury, Esq., of Rougham
his father

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Thomas Drury, Esq., of Rougham
his father

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Sir William Drury, of Rougham
his father

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Margaret de Vere de Nauton - Drury
his mother

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Thomas de Vere De Naunton
her father

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Ellen De Vere
his mother

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Robert de Vere, 6th Earl Oxford
her father

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Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford
his father

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Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford
his father

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Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford, Surety of the Magna Carta
his father

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Aubrey III de Vere aka Albert Sanglier
his father

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Lord Alberic de Vere, II
his father

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Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire
his father

Aubrey de Vere, I, Sheriff of Berkshire MP

Gender:	Male
Birth:	circa 1030 Ver, Manche, Lower Normandy, France
Death:	September 01, 1112 (77-86) Earls Colne, Essex, England (United Kingdom)
Place of Burial:	Colne Priory (which he founded), Essex, England
Immediate Family:	Son of Unknown Father of Aubrey de Vere and Unknown Mother of Aubrey de Vere Husband of Beatrice Castellan de Gand Father of Geoffrey de Vere; Lord Alberic de Vere, II; Roger de Vere; William de Vere; Roheise (Roesia) de Vere; Guy de Vere; Alice de Vere; Robert de Vere and Maud de Vere