The Factuals versus the OABS (Old Age BullShit)

Julienne Alvarez

Sunday, November 13th, 2016

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Last Sunday, 2 days before the election 60 minutes had Frank Luntz on with his panel of American voters. I had not watched it but my boyfriend had and replayed it to me tonight with our local cable on demand. It was an incredible look at how outrageously pissed the entire nation is right now and just how disenfranchised we all feel (a reflection of the entire world btw). If you have on demand or a way to watch this particular episode you should not miss it. Most of the people on his panel were voting against a candidate and not for one, this speaks volumes. Luntz said something very incredible in this interview that I feel everyone needs desperately to hear and consider. He said people are now arming themselves with affirmation instead of information.

Let that sink in a minute and really think this one through. If the planet really wants to see clearly into a mirror right now they can look at America to get a clue how precarious this statement really is.

Instead of informing themselves people across this great nation and the world are actually affirming themselves and their strongly held opinions and beliefs using any and all data they can find whether or not that data has even been verified unequivocally to be true or not. In a nutshell; no one is hearing anyone else because they can't even agree on the facts. If we can't even agree on what is FACTUAL how can we hope to SEE the truth?! We have all degenerated to the level of shouting at each other and no one is even listening. We are in a serious echo chamber people!!! We are all shouting AT each other instead of having constructive civil conversations. There was a closeout on soapboxes apparently and everyone has one (thank you Facebook, thank you internet). Trump is not the only self absorbed narcissist on the planet, everyone is looking into that mirror these days and that is the reason he makes us all uncomfortable, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree folks.

Mainstream media is very much to blame here as well as social media, pseudo science and pseudo news sites that make up much of the internet today. Instead of actually listening to each other people have become so indignant and self-righteous about what they BELIEVE are the facts while ignoring most if not all the actual facts. Global warming is real, no it isn't...Trump is a racist pig, no he isn't, Hillary is a lair, no she isn't...well maybe. If you are white you are an entitled racist and if you are black you are incapable of racism and still subject to slavery apparently. If you want to keep your guns you are responsible for all the mass murders ever committed in this country and if you don't want anyone to own guns you are a card carrying woosey.

If you are worried about radical Islam you are an Islamophobic, xenophobic racist vile pig and if you are Muslim you must be a jihadist hellbent on infidel annihilation, ect ect ad nauseam. And don't get me started about you Mexican rapist bitches, yeah you know who you are lol. If you voted for Trump you voted for vile hatred, mass deportation, interment camps, racism and the annihilation of America. If you voted for Hilary you have some how been ordained by the gods, given the keys to the kingdom and are therefore ultra righteous and subject to zero criticism, right? On and on it goes and most of it is pure BS. The naked truth standing in the room is all but ignored these days while the virgin Mary of opinion holds sway.

Do you see my point here? We are all drowning in a sea of opinion out there and much of it IS total bullshit, it is like wading through a mine field and people are cherry picking the shit out of it. We need to stick to the facts and be able to agree on what the hell they even are, not going off on emotional baseless tangents, not by listening to pseudo news and science but by carefully discussing and agreeing on what the facts are. There are REAL valid concerns coming from BOTH wings of the bird here and they are not just black and white issues, literally and figuratively. People are getting sidetracked with copious amounts of baseless accusations instead of the unadulterated plain truth. The elephant in the room is being ignored.

Trump says he wants extreme vetting, alright then lets give it to him. I am asking everyone to extreme vet their facts before you go spouting it as the almighty truth and the only way to do this is by listening to each other and the actual people in the know. As the saying goes just because you read, found or saw it on the internet doesn't mean it is factual, it means YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK and compare notes with everyone in your circle of life and what you already know.
Don't confuse observation with judgment and opinion, the truth is not subjective but is clear and evident to all. The extreme vetting goes for people, religions, ideologies, politics and especially the mainstream news networks (puppets for the elites), basically everything and everyone. Transparency is the key here and it is the reason the country voted the way they did, something didn't feel right, smell right and wasn't right (thank you Wiki leaks and other whistle blowers.) America needs to trust their gut instincts right now as well as the facts. We are living in the time of the great revealing and trust me all of it WILL come out. We can be thankful for the internet for that because the truth really can't hide anymore. Although it can still drown in a sea of disinformation and so we must be vigilant and help protect each other from the onslaught of fake information and speculation by listening to each other and weeding out the crap. Most importantly we must help expose the truth and make it visible.

One of the things that was so disheartening leading up to this election was the unwillingness of many people to even entertain a dialogue which calls for listening to each other, my own friends and family included. The discussions I witnessed on social media were vulgar ad hominem displays of horrid and sometimes violent intent. The kind of murderous rage you expect to hear from someplace like radical Islam or Iran or ISIS who's mantra for the west is DEATH TO AMERICA and yet it was and still is a chant to be heard out of the mouths of our own citizens. This hateful ideology is infecting this great country and much of the planet right now, if it doesn't turn your stomach then you are likely infected too. If we stop actually listening to each other and suspend our dialogue we will never be able to sort out the truth from fiction. Instead we will all go into our little bubbles of self-affirmation and isolation, denying the facts even if they stare us in the face, pointing fingers while the planet blithely ignores us all and the yuge asteroid or nuke comes (or hopefully aliens with giant freaking ships).

It is a case of I am right and you are wrong shut the front door mentality. Are we so self-righteous now that we have become tone deaf to common sense dialogue and have lost the ability to even listen to each other? Is this really the world we live in where we are no longer capable of being impartial and rush to judgment before the other person gets a word in edgewise? A world where you just have to be right no matter the personal cost like loosing family and friends or a nation or planet to fools? (thank you Putin for exposing who's finger was hot on the nuke button and also for exposing the MSN media for the rotten piece of psychological warfare truth censoring shit it has become.)

What happened to the motto “can't we all just agree to disagree?” Is it necessary to block our loved ones and friends on FB and out of our lives, shutting them out simply because we have lost the ability to listen and take in someone else's viewpoint other than our own? And why do some of us feel so guilty about being American's, guilty for being white, religious and god fearing, atheist, agnostic, old, pretty, ugly, fat, skinny, republican, democrat, independent and on and on? Who is pushing that mantra of complete and utter self-disgust onto us that not all of us are buying into? (Insert psychological warfare instigated by the elite leading the sheep to slaughter mentality)

Is it so wrong to stand up for national pride and affirm the principles that this country was founded on without conjuring white entitlement into this or have we completely lost our minds? Can anyone reading this see that we are all being played emotionally by some very rich and entitled secret ass elites who hide behind our government as it's real puppet masters? These oligarchs have bluffed a royal flush to our collective minds which many have exposed but few have called the bluff. It is called EMOTIONAL EXTORTION. It is pure entertainment to them and we are getting paid in dead bodies.

They don't want us to have a national identity or national pride for a reason and that reason is because it would ruin their globalist agenda. They don't want us to celebrate our diversity, our cultures, our differences but would rather we all become soylent green for fuck sake. We are not supposed to question the game or take notice at all. Take a step back and really examine why it is so damn important that we loose the ability to see color, race, creed, identity, culture, language? If we have zero identity then they win, they can create ANY identity for us, it is called blind consumerism and worker bee slaves. Unless you are paying attention you will suck it all up like there is no tomorrow especially when they promise every campaign on shit they never deliver, keeping us all mesmerized. The elites have been nursing us all on an artificial tit and many are pissed to high hell that the people who have woke up weaned them off of it. That is what the Trump vote really means, it was carefully crafted by the spirit of the people to upset the applecart of complacency and political correctness, to wean us off this unsatisfying fake titty. You could say that it is time for America to grow up and so our gut instinct took over and we spit it out and are now crying for solid food. We want the real deal too, not this fabricated artificial crap we have all been spoon fed. Oh Trump lied too, don't think for a minute all the shit he has promised will come true, you have lost the plot if you think so.

It is up to us to hold this shit storm government accountable but we can't do it if we fall into their plan of creating artificial division. Everyone by now should understand that WE THE PEOPLE hold the power. The elites want you to feel divided, powerless, and sad, hopeless, they want you emotionally charged and mentally compromised, this is how they orchestrate this fucking puppet show. This shadow government acting behind the world governments are not the smartest people at all, they are so out of touch with reality that this is truly the best propaganda bunch of BS they could come up with for a path to globalization. They have not consulted the brightest and the best on the planet. One centralized command center, one skin color, one language, one monetary system, one religion=no religion as they are as godless as it gets, faith to them = money and the more they have the more they believe. The UN and NATO have become their instruments to make it all happen too and anyone who doesn't comply will be delt with just look at Syria, Libya, Iraq, ect to get a feel here. They want maximum CONTROL...BEIGE people, they want to paint the ceiling BEIGE!!! Totally BORING!! Yes that's right, we are laying here on the bed getting screwed and this is what we want to see and think about?

We do need globalization but it must be done by DECENTRALIZING power within nations, states, cities and citizens and this doesn't mean getting rid of borders or national or personal identities or culture but rather we must cultivate and CELEBRATE our global diversity in a larger context. No one person, nation or political party should retain ultimate power just like our founding fathers envisioned and set up for this country and this applies globally as well. Don't be silly and believe for one second that we will all just be rolled over and not hold Trump accountable, he was elected to work for America and work he will. Think of him as the new WE THE PEOPLES puppet, we hold the strings. We'll change him out in 4 years should it all go to his head which is exactly why we have term limits. We get tired of seeing the same old crap. Right now though we need his bravado, his unpredictability, his business acumen and yes even his narcissistic attitude. Why you ask? Well because the elites have done quite a lot of psychological damage to our collective sense of self worth and he is the medicine. There is nothing wrong with his sense of optimism and it used to be encouraged in this country not frowned on or considered a character flaw. And the LAST thing we need is a career politician (sorry Hilary, sorry Bernie) they too have been infiltrated and brainwashed.

What is needed now is to be the change we want to see and to stop attacking each other with petty name calling. We need to get real with each other while discussing the truly critical stuff that seriously is life or death. If you actually support equal human rights for all then stop defending countries, belief systems, ideologies, religions, corporations, political parties, and people et al that continue to suppress these basic human rights, don't take any monies, goods, advice or support them in any way, in fact these are the people we should be disempowering, not each other. Be prepared to admit that equality doesn't equal entitlement and stop victimizing or blaming everyone including the men on this planet who are ALWAYS the first casualty in a war. Bombing the fuck out of the middle east won't fix their problems, the simple fact is that the ideology needs a reform and we all know it, hell most Muslims even know it and widely support this reform.

We need an information war not a mechanical war.

Freedom of speech is critically necessary to win this information war and ensures our mutual survival. Unless we all want to become archeological scat buried beneath some other civilization or species we all need to protect it and we can only do this if we quit silencing each other. Stand up and be the voice for people who don't have one. If you actually want to see unity THEN UNIFY and be willing to see ALL sides of things and not just your own narrow minded singular viewpoint, it is possible you could be wrong for fuck sake so be willing to admit it.

Dance with your shadow, everyone needs to be doing shadow work right now btw. Be willing to suspend judgment for a while and just listen and observe. Be willing to switch sides for perspective. Stop shutting up people who are trying desperately to be heard, people who are trying to inform you and show you a new way, even if that way is uncomfortable as hell to you. Be willing to gather and weigh all the facts before you slam your viewpoint and opinions down another persons throat. Be willing to admit you might not possess all the facts and so unfortunately you might not be the world's authority on the subject. Be willing to admit that we are being manipulated mentally by the elites and take back your mind, safeguard it by becoming like water, learn to flow mentally.

The last thing we need is to be listening to a bunch of whining self-righteous babies cry over spilled milk and I really wish the media would stop covering these demonstrations and the Obama administration would denounce it. It is not the end of the world and they threaten to destabilize our country if it is allowed to continue. No mature adult Elder on the planet would condone this behavior, don't support it, anarchy is not the American way or the spiritual way my friends and we don't need a mad max culture. Our laws exist for a reason and are there to protect and serve us all, they are agreements we all made about what is true and right and just. If anyone is paying attention they can easily see that much of it is orchestrated once again by the elites and their methods of EMOTIONAL EXTORTION.

Our youth have been mentally manipulated into not critically thinking anymore and it is collectively up to us to help remedy that.

There are actual real people suffering on this planet far more then the voter who calls themselves a democrat who just lit up their nations streets with fire and tagged DEATH TO AMERICA all over the place because their candidate lost and they sOOoo believe in democracy. Please start listening to the Elders of this planet and nation including indigenous, familial, mental and other, if you don't know one find one to mentor you. There is much wisdom that comes with age and we would all be so much better off if we could learn to respect and reflect from our mature global wisdom keepers and stopped glorifying youth. We don't always have to have the last word or all the words, listening is a skill and it is one the Elders of our society teach so well. Our youth desperately need this wisdom right now not the vile hate that has been drawn out of the wound but rather the stories, the history and the wisdom all of us possess inside, yes this is the cure and this is the reason for this long ass but heartfelt letter I have written to you all.

Most importantly, SHUT OFF THE TV, tune out all social media for a while and turn around and embrace your friends, the people in your family, and in the same room with you, be grateful they are in your life and have graced you with their presence and love. So many of us have suffered great loss suddenly and tragically and you never know if you could be next, tomorrow is not guaranteed, count your blessings every day. And when you are ready, be big enough to apologize to family and friends you have shut out, bullied, called names and silenced because you just had to be right. Invite them back into your circle of love. Be courageous and make your family the whole world even if you don't like all of them at least try to understand them, make space for them, honor them, celebrate each other, listen to them. Let us all cut through the bullshit with the sword of love, truth and forgiveness and not the sword of silence. We are the ones we have been waiting for.

NEVER SILENCE THE TRUTH, CELEBRATE IT!

Sincerely,

Noah's Raven aka JuJu
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"The vitally important take-away message from the result of this election is that it is a wake-up call and one that every one of us needs to hear: 'You are ruled by a mostly unelected cabal of corrupt crony capitalist warmongers who have repeatedly bamboozled and divided you by changing political persuasion as often as you change underwear.'

In their private lives, such people hold attitudes towards the American people (and ordinary people everywhere) that make Donald Trump look like Pope Francis. And while endless attention is given to the approved and encouraged 'concerns' of racism, sexism and transgenderism, these stewards of the American empire are killing hundreds of thousands of people overseas and supporting regimes that arrest, torture and kill homosexuals, women and political dissidents.

So for all those who voted for Hillary because they are worried about fascism coming to America, I have news for you: Donald Trump isn't it. When fascism comes to America, it won't be in the guise of a crass demagogue espousing regressive policies, it will come wrapped in the flag of 21st-century 'liberal' and 'progressive' ideals, espoused by a government that slaughters millions of foreigners in the name of freedom and democracy and yet enjoys the fawning adoration of a gaggle of self-centered, self-important wannabe humanitarian do-gooders.
So don't kid yourself, American fascism isn't looming on the horizon because of President Trump; it's been your bread-and-butter for decades. "

~ joe quinn​

 

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You Want REAL Political Change? Repeal the ‘Federal Reserve Act 1913’

noblehuman
November 13, 2016
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A buzz word used by many presidential candidates is “change”. Indeed, for the past several election cycles, it’s been a prominent word used in all presidential campaigns. However, just as conspicuous in most of these campaigns is the fact that the candidates who talk of “change” do not tell us specifically what changes they are talking about. Sure, we get generalizations about ‘ending the war’ and ‘changing the way Washington does business’, but the actual changes being promised by candidates of any political persuasion are a mystery to us.
The problem is that our urge for change is genuine, yet undefined “change” can be bad or good, and without specific information about what changes a candidate is proposing — not just the idea or sentiment of change — then we really have no idea what we are actually voting for.

For example, President Bush Jr. brought about many significant changes to this nation during his presidency. He established that a President may take America to war on a fabricated lie, and use war as a pretext to take away the rights given to us by God and protected by our Constitution. He also established in law that human beings, especially foreigners, have no inalienable rights and can be tortured when deemed ‘necessary’ and ‘appropriate’ by government authorities, and created the mega governmental agency called the Department of Homeland Security, which has given dark new meaning to the phrase “Big Brother is watching.”

Barack Obama in his presidential campaign promised to change some of these things. In fact, he promised to change a lot of things. The problem being he made these promises with fingers crossed behind his back. He ran on a platform of radical change — “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.” — but as his second term of office comes to an end, he has changed nothing. What he has done is support the status quo, delivering more of the same; more war, more domestic controls, more corporate freedoms, more encroachment on our God-given rights — all the things that Americans desperately wanted to “change” eight years ago.

Now, in 2016, do we seriously think either Hillary Clinton, an integral feature of the same establishment, or Donald Trump, a multi-billionaire from the Forbes 400 crowd, is actually going to understand, advocate and then deliver the kind of change Americans really want, need and deserve?
Americans are starving for change. We want the jobs and companies that have fled overseas to come home, and rehire those they have fired…


We want gasoline, electricity and groceries to be affordable…
We want to educate and inspire our children, not just train them for to be future workers…
We pray that the perpetual wars in the Middle East will end and our troops will come home…
We want an end to corporate personhood and politically-motivated ‘foreign aid’…
We want to be able to afford our own homes without submitting to a lifetime of mortgage debt in exchange for a fraudulent bank ‘loan’ that is financed out of thin air…
We want a balanced budget…
We want America to stop policing the world…
We want government officials to stop lying to us…
We want a President who is accountable for his or her actions, and who follows through on the big-picture promises made in the heat of election campaigns…


And finally, we wish to leave this world a better place for our children, just as our parents and grandparents have done before us. In other words, Americans do not really want change — what we want is what we had before. We’ve actually had a bellyful of change. The past decade and half has been nothing but change; the kind that continues to steer us in the wrong direction. What we really want is reform.


Change, or Reform?

Reform! What an easy word to say, but what a difficult thing to bring about.
Politically speaking, reform means going back to where we are supposed to be. But where is that? Ask Americans and you get different answers from everyone. We all know something is wrong with our nation — very wrong — but we collectively are unable to agree on what needs to be done to turn things around, despite the fact that the answer to our problems is self-evident. What we need is to return to the fundamental constitutional roots that made the American nation what it was for most of last century. In other words, we need a constitutional government, including checks and balances designed to ensure that the wrong changes do not take place and our government behaves the way we want it to — on our behalf, and the behalf of our republic.
But, while this is what Americans fundamentally want, do we really have a snowball’s chance in hell of ever seeing this happen? This is not what our leaders want. Our leaders want to be free, and for them to be truly free — to use the power of government as they see fit, not as the majority sees fit — they need to be free of our Constitution and free of accountability to us. And the two best ways of achieving this freedom are through perpetual war and an economic system that turns us into the down-trodden economic slaves of the bankers.


The Federal Reserve Act 1913

“It is well enough that the people of this nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” ~ Henry Ford, 1922
American changed in 1913. This was the year that Congress, wrongfully and in violation of our legal Constitution, created the Federal Reserve; a private foreign banking cartel given authority to control our money supply and economy. It should be clear that if a group of people can control our money supply and economy, then they control everything — including our government. There is no equivocation here: either we control our government through our Constitution, or private bankers control it through the power of the dollar. And unfortunately, the nature of political corruption is such that dollars always trump an oath of office, and this being the case, we are left with a government that pays lips service to our Constitution and lies to us about everything, all the while acting on behalf of private banking mega-corporations.

Therefore, the first thing that any President should do upon entering office is to repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.
But has Barack Obama ever mentioned this kind of “change”? No, of course not! Because the simple truth of the matter is that almost all party leaders and government officials (Republican, Democrat or otherwise) work for them — the bankers — and not for us.
“I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” ~ Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States President (1913–1921)
Imagine a high level corporate executive informing his board of directors that they are fired; this is exactly what is necessary for our President and Congress to do, in order for Americans to be a free people again. In order to serve us, they must tell the bankers that they are no longer needed — because they were never needed. They have acted exclusively for their own interests — profit and control — while intentionally and deceitfully working against our interests — freedoms and liberties. But the truth is, they need us. And the only way they can keep us working for them is through outright deception and systemic manipulation.


Trade Agreements

Concurrent with the above actions our government should also kill the TTIP trade deal (which seeks to give corporations power over our own government), repeal the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), get us out of the World Trade Organization (WTO).
When the U.S. joined the United Nations, a Security Council was created to ensure the United States has veto power over any and all actions taken by the UN. No such veto power exists for actions taken by the WTO. Instead, we have agreed to make all of our laws, policies, and procedures conform to the decisions of the WTO, without reservation or Congressional input. In other words, the WTO is a governing body whose powers precede those of our own government.

By quitting the World Trade Organization and repealing the Federal Reserve Act, Americans will regain our lost sovereignty and begin trading freely with other nations, without marching to the beat of foreign regulators (another step toward global government) or private banking corporations that reap huge returns from our labor — while doing virtually nothing to earn it.
The reality the American nation faces today is that we are in a permanent recession called poverty — and this is exactly where our government has placed us, to the benefit of our New World Order masters. Americans want this to change and as a result, presidential candidates paint themselves as agents of change — but in truth, they will change nothing of substance. As recent history has so clearly proven, our politicians no longer work for America. All that has really changed in the 8 years since Obama took office is that, instead of having a white oppressor as President, we have had one who is black.

http://miniplanet.us/you-want-real-political-change-repeal-the-federal-reserve-act-1913/

 

Thousands of Scientists Declare Obama a LIAR: ‘Climate Change a Complete Hoax and Scam’



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President Obama declared in his State of the Union Address in December, “No challenge – no challenge – poses a greater threat to future generations than climate change.”

Not the growing threat of radical Islamic terrorism, not an unsecured border, not an ever-growing debt that is quickly approaching $20 trillion, none of that. These are not the greatest threats facing us today.
Obama went on to say:
“Look, if anybody still wants to dispute the science around climate change, have at it,” Obama said. “You’ll be pretty lonely, because you’ll be debating our military, most of America’s business leaders, the majority of the American people, almost the entire scientific community and 200 nations around the world who agree it’s a problem and intend to solve it.”



Well, guess what Obama, over 30,000 scientists have come forward and said that ‘catastrophic man-made global warming’ is a complete hoax and science lie.
According to Natural News, one of these experts is Weather Channel founder John Coleman, who is now warning that the election could prove to be a “tipping point” in favor of people like Al Gore, who continues to amass vast fortunes based on the global warming scam.


In a recent interview with Climate Depot, Coleman said:


“Al Gore may emerge from the shadows to declare victory in the ‘global warming’ debate if Hillary Clinton moves into the White House. Yes, if that happens and the new climate regulations become the law of the land, they will be next to impossible to overturn for four to eight years.”

Climate change proponents remain undeterred in their mission, ignoring numerous recent scientific findings indicating that there has been no warming trend at all for nearly two decades.
Al Gore’s dire predictions of the melting of polar ice on a massive scale have proved to be completely false. In fact, in 2014 – a year that was touted as being “the hottest ever” in the Earth’s history – there were record amounts of ice reported in Antarctica, an increase in Arctic ice, and record snowfalls across the globe.
Debunking the “97 percent” lie

On top of those “inconvenient truths,” the White House’s assertion that 97 percent of scientists agree that global warming is real has been completely debunked. Several independently-researched examinations of the literature used to support the “97 percent” statement found that the conclusions were cherry-picked and misleading.
More objective surveys have revealed that there is a far greater diversity of opinion among scientists than the global warming crowd would like for you to believe.

From the National Review:

“A 2008 survey by two German scientists, Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch, found that a significant number of scientists were skeptical of the ability of existing global climate models to accurately predict global temperatures, precipitation, sea-level changes, or extreme weather events even over a decade; they were far more skeptical as the time horizon increased.”

Other mainstream news sources besides the National Review have also been courageous enough to speak out against the global warming propaganda – even the Wall Street Journal published an op-ed piece in 2015 challenging the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) pseudoscience being promulgated by global warming proponents.

And, of course, there are the more than 31,000 American scientists (to date) who have signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative and 9,029 of them hold PhDs in their respective fields. But hey, Obama, Al Gore and his cronies have also ignored that inconvenient truth, as well.

Many of those scientists who signed the petition were likely encouraged to speak out in favor of the truth after retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist John L. Casey revealed that solar cycles are largely responsible for warming periods on Earth – not human activity.

Al Gore and his cronies continue getting richer from the global warming hoax

But the global warming crowd continues to push their agenda on the public while lining their pockets in the process. If you’re still inclined to believe what Al Gore has to say about global warming, please consider the fact that since he embarked on his crusade, his wealth has grown from $2 million in 2001 to $100 million in 2016 – largely due to investments in fake “green tech” companies and the effective embezzlement of numerous grants and loans.


Donald Trump on climate change policy: ‘I believe it’s a big scam for a lot of people to make a lot of money.”

Charlotte Cowell



lot of people are on that gravy train




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
you can argue the cause. but i don't think anyone can argue the effect. sorry, i see it for myself.
we are losing polar ice. we are warming. we will be victims of crop failure and starvation and migration. i don't need anyone to tell me that. the acidification and heating of the oceans has other monumental drag on survival as does deforestation, methane release. argue cause, but don't argue what is in front of all our faces.
and yes, many use the "fear" of and the falsity to manipulate and profit and control. but meanwhile, the bigger reality is that it is really happening.





Tony Bermanseder You are true to your heart but deceived by your mind. Do the science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2iggJN4Etw

Dr Easterbrook Global Warming HOAX & Facts
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Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
Tony, i see it. with my own eyes. in my back yard. in my state, in my country. i SEE it happening. even if i were illiterate and deaf/dumb, i could still see it.
i will gladly watch the video, and i will endeavor to keep an open mind, but i must say one can find anything one wants on youtube.





Tony Bermanseder The climate change is peaking just as it did around 1940 and 40 years later and this is global. So around 2020 the peak of 1940 will similarly repeat and reverse the warming (around 1 degree or less) from 1980 to 2020





Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
as i said, i will consider all you say.





Tony Bermanseder
I and any informed scientist accepts the real manmade pollution and deterioration in the ecosystems, fossil fuel based, deforestation and many otrher causes





Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
and you do not think that they exacerbate what you believe to be a recurrence only? were the ocean plankton in this much retreat in 1940 for instance?
i would love to embrace just such a cyclical reversal
were the UV readings this urgent in 1940? was the atmosphere as under duress as it is now with the abuse of industy, the automobile, and the use of ionospheric heaters?
i don't at least rudimentarily think you can make a straight across assumption




Tony Bermanseder
You can relate it to the great channges in the megafauna and the microfauna, as well as extinction events, which are greatly influenced by exploitation of the environment and 'limited resources'. Again trust real independent science divorced from ANY politics and you cant go wrong.




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
i agree on whom to trust. i just hope they can be recognized.
and thanks.
certainly our megafauna and microfauna are under stresses. polar bear and whale are quite obvious. the mutagenic not so easily.




Tony Bermanseder
Do the science and not the politics. Your own childhood was environmentally different than it is now and there is such a thing as planetary evolution, but this 'Gaia science' does not revolve around human activity but is focused on the CONSCIOUSNESS evolvement of the planet with all its lifeforms. In this agenda, the human consciousness plays of course a very important part.




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
it is the extinction event that has priority in my mind. so at its heart you are convinced that the specter of climate change is being used to distract from the rapacious extraction of all resources being the true detriment of survival.




Tony Bermanseder
I agree with allk your statements, except the physical reality of AGW.
There are many more resources, than is known to the public.
If I may ask you to watch this clip about the true 'devil' on this world. The AGW agenda plays a part in this. And I am sure you would agree with most of this essay beginning around 1912.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhmHaqQ9QDQ

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars
Written and spoken by Michael Rivero. The written version is here:
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Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
well yes to gaian evolution not being humancentric. the planet does have a fever though. shaking off some vector at the very least.




Tony Bermanseder
Agreed
But Gaia as a 'Universal Mother', including so called extra terrestrial lifeforms has friends off-planet.




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
of course i will watch. not only do i have a hungry mind, but i hunger for higher reason, higher perspective and will welcome input.




Tony Bermanseder
The higher purpose relates to the present time of 'sorrows' and 'birthing pains' for Gaia mark 2.




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
btw, i get the all wars concept. better than most i say without hubris.




Tony Bermanseder
I thought so. You have the company required off and online




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
may we birth beyond our dark mind prison.







Tony Bermanseder
Your dark mind is the other side of your one coin
But this can be harmonised by the ones who wish to render their prison a chatel of the vacations
Dante's Inferno can become a Mountain of the Rings, where the records of a dark past experienced can be kept as information for the future evolvements without the necessity to reexperience the darkness relative

Romans 8:21-23 - King James Version (KJV)

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.





Charlotte Cowell something is happening to the climate but scientists have shown that this is overwhelmingly due to sun activity. The oceans are also a huge factor when it comes to CO2. Also, I think there should be more focus on pollution we can control rather than the weather which is mainly out of our control, unless we're using HAARP of course....





Tony Bermanseder
Oh yes much of the climate change is an attempt of geoengeneering like chemtrails etc and absolutely manmade
The new science supplementing the solar cycles and the natural greenhouse effect of the oceanic evaporations are Cosmic rays
The cosmic rays are high energy protons and atomic nuclei, which interact with the atmosphere to form water vapour etc. This then adds to the normal cloud formations from the oceans and the weather cycles and the oceanic currents (El Nino and La Nina say). Because the 'political science' knows of this, it tries to control cloud formation and with it rainfall and so drought and floods.


https://youtu.be/WNU1FWHftP8

Global warming is a scam [documentary]
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Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
http://arstechnica.com/.../cern-experiment-finds-key.../

CERN CLOUD experiment finds secret sauce for cloud formation
ARSTECHNICA.COM|BY SCOTT K. JOHNSON




Tony Bermanseder
Sure there would be other chemical processes involved. But you should also realise that even the most 'prestigious' peer reviewed journals like Nature and Science have their reputations to uphold now, as they all have subscribed to the AGW scam from their political-business perspectives.




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
i know so well. it is like prospecting to quarry information that leads one forward.

http://phys.org/.../2013-09-danish-unexpected-magic...

Danish experiment suggests unexpected magic by cosmic rays in…
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Tony Bermanseder
Then of course their previous support of AGW will be very hard to retract, to not jeopardise their reputations.




Barbara Maat · Friends with Jane Collins and 3 others
it is why i live by my intuitive gut these days. and that extends to information. everything is weighed against the potential for manipulation




Tony Bermanseder
This is of course doing a GREAT disservice to Science. and why I linked you to the Easterbrook video. Apart from the basically 'debunked' John Cook and his website, I could find no serious attempt to link and debunk Easterbrook's 50 year expertise as a real climatologist.

To Barbara Maat
A sound appropriation

The thing about Cosmic Rays, that might interest you though is their origin. For many years they were thought to be intragalactic but new and better technology found that they are often extragalactic.


Part of my decade long work has indicated that cosmic rays are actually the decay products of higher dimensional superstrings. Now as superstrings link DIRECTLY to the great scientific mystery of what physical consciousness might be; i could say that cosmic rays relate to the information exchange between source and receiver, say some (extra}galactic origin and a star-solar system. If true, then the evolution of life on Terra as well as any other consciousness carrying lifeforms are related to cosmic ray influx as a consciousness guide for the 'data processors' say living on a planet. Then the climate changes are also related to a growth in consciousness and subsequently technological and other forms of evolution.
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FAKE HATE: Leftist Students Painted Swastika and “Trump” on Campus Church

Jim Hoft Nov 15th, 2016 9:28 am 220 Comments


Leftist students Anthony Morales, 19 (at left), and Matthew Kafker (at right), 18, vandalized the campus church with Swastikas. They wanted it to look like Trump supporters were behind the hate crime.

Two freshmen at Northwestern University were charged with vandalizing the campus church.
The two Jewish students painted a Swastika and “Trump” on the church walls.
The Jewish Week reported:

Two Northwestern University freshmen were charged on Saturday with hate crimes and vandalism after admitting to spray-painting offensive symbols on the walls of a nondenominational campus chapel, the Chicago Tribune reported.​

Anthony Morales, 19 (at left), and Matthew Kafker (at right), 18, spent Saturday in jail and court, where they were reprimanded by Cook County Judge Peggy Chiampas. “These allegations are disgusting to me,” she said during their bond hearing. “I don’t know if any of you know how lucky you are to be at Northwestern University.”​

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Their bail was set at $50,000.​

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Police said the students were filmed by security cameras breaking into the chapel on Friday night. The next day after which they appear to have spray-painted swastikas, pictures of genitals, racist slurs against African Americans and Muslims, homophobic slurs, and the word “Trump,” according to the Tribune.​

Both students admitted the vandalism in statements given to university police, the Tribune reported.​

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TRUMP GETS TOUGH, LOOKS TO BAN MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

Subversive group has infiltrated White House, FBI, DHS, Justice Department
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Obama hosts senior Muslim Brotherhood leader Anas Altikriti at the White House in 2014

President-elect Donald Trump is reportedly preparing to jumpstart a bill in Congress that would ban the Muslim Brotherhood by declaring it a terrorist organization.
Trump foreign-policy adviser Walid Pheres told Egyptian news outlet Youm7 that the legislation, introduced a year ago by U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, was held up due to the Obama administration’s support of the group. But Trump plans to back the bill.
Cruz’s bill, the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act of 2015-16, identifies the Brotherhood and three of its offshoots, including the Council on American-Islamic Relations and Islamic Society of North America, as a terrorist organization.
The Brotherhood is already banned as a subversive organization in Russia and at least five Arab countries, including Syria, Saudi Arabia and its home base of Egypt. And the Brotherhood’s self-avowed “Palestine” branch – Hamas – was added to the U.S. State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organizations in 1997.
Former Rep. Michele Bachmann, who introduced similar legislation during her last term in office, said such action is long overdue. It has been clear since the Holy Land Foundation terror financing trial in 2007-08 that the Brotherhood is working through front groups toward an agenda of Islamic supremacy, which the Brotherhood calls “civilization jihad.”
“First, it is imperative to know the enemy,” Bachmann told WND. “The fundamental purpose of the Muslim Brotherhood is to supplant all societal structures, even in non-Islamic countries like the United States, with Islamic Shariah law.”


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When Bachmann introduced her legislation in 2012, she named Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s top aide, Huma Abedin, as an example of the Muslim Brotherhood agents who have infiltrated the federal government. She came under intense pressure to drop the issue from both Democrats and Republicans. Among her critics was former Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., who called Abedin “an American patriot.”
“I have no information in my committee that would indicate that Huma is anything other than an American patriot,” Rogers told USA Today in 2012.
Bachmann recommends Steve King for DHS secretary
Rogers’ name has been tossed out, along with that of Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, as possible choices that Trump is considering for the job of secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
Bachmann said said she would like to see Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, get the job.
“King’s was the most consistent, logical voice on building a wall and securing America’s borders,” she said.


Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa
King is also one of 68 House co-sponsors of the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act.


Hasan al-Banna


The Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 by Hasan al-Banna. In the 1970s, it transitioned from a primarily nationalist group seeking to Islamize Egypt to an international network seeking to spread the concepts of Shariah throughout the world. It now has franchised affiliates in more than 70 countries.


Video: On This Day... Nov. 16, 2001



The Brotherhood employs different strategies for different countries. In Western democracies such as the U.S. and Canada, it seeks to destroy those countries “from within” through a process it calls “civilization jihad.”
Meet the Muslim Brotherhood inside the U.S. ‘Muslim Mafia’ exposes infamous terror-tied group CAIR.
The FBI raided a Muslim Brotherhood safe house in 2004 and discovered key documents that laid out the strategic plan for subjugating America under Shariah. The document, “An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America” stated that the Brotherhood’s “work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack.”
The document sets out a plan to establish “settlements” for Islam in the United States and “present Islam as a civilization alternative,” which “supports the global Islamic State wherever it is.”
The Brotherhood’s longtime motto is:

“Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Quran is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope. [Allah is greater!]”​

Yet the Brotherhood and its various offshoots, such as CAIR and ISNA – are not only able to operate legally in America but have been offered seats at the highest echelons of power, in the White House, in the halls of Congress, in the military and in the departments of Justice and Homeland Security.
The Democrats are considering placing Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., who has been an enthusiastic supporter of CAIR and ISNA, into the party’s leadership as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, or DNC. Ellison is one of two Muslims in Congress, the other being Andre Carson, D-Ind.
Various Islamic charities and leaders tied to the Brotherhood were already found to have been funding Hamas terrorists during the Holy Land Foundation trial of 2008.
“Across the U.S. are Muslim Brotherhood front groups which need to be exposed and dismantled,” Bachmann said. “The Muslim brotherhood’s goals include the overthrow of our constitutional republic.
“In President Trump, we have someone willing to recognize America’s enemies and defeat them. This is welcome and long overdue.”

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Dr. Mark Christian, a former imam who grew up in Cairo, Egypt, the son of a prominent Muslim Brotherhood operative, agrees that taking down the Brotherhood is not enough. Trump will need to go after all of its front groups, like CAIR, ISNA, NAIT and the Muslim Student Association.


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Invited into White House in 1996


Christian, founder of the Global Faith Institute, said the Brotherhood was invited into the White House by the Clintons in 1996 and has been ensconced there ever since. Every president since, including George W. Bush, has hosted Ramadan dinners and offered praise of Islam as a “religion of peace.”
When the leader of the free world embraces a terrorist organization, it alienates peaceful, reformist Muslims not only in America but across the world, Christian said.
That’s why President el-Sisi of Egypt was the first foreign leader to call and congratulate Trump on his victory.
“Sisi and his government in Egypt are celebrating because Trump won,” Christian said.
“Since 1996, the Muslim Brotherhood has been introduced into our government, into our military, and into our religious organizations under the cover of ‘interfaith’ dialogue, and so designating the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization is a very good first step, but it is way bigger than that,” he added.




Hillary Clinton with top aide Huma Abedin.


Many of the Brotherhood operatives in the DOJ, DHS, and FBI are graduates of U.S. colleges where they had served as leaders of the MSA, a Brotherhood front group with chapters on almost every college campus in America. This is the route to power taken by Huma Abedin, who was an MSA leader during her years at George Washington University.



iKhalilah Sabra is a Muslim Brotherhood operative who has openly advocated for a violent revolution in America.

Another Brotherhood operative with deep ties in the Obama administration is Khalilah Sabra. She works as an accredited representative of aliens before federal immigration courts, the Board of Immigration Appeals and the Department of Homeland Security. She openly called for a Muslim-inspired revolution in America at a Brotherhood conference on Dec. 28 in Chicago.


Meet the Muslim Brotherhood inside the U.S. ‘Muslim Mafia’ exposes infamous terror-tied group CAIR.
Brotherhood ‘like a cancer’ growing in both parties

Christian said the Brotherhood is not just tied into the Democratic Party. It has operatives who have expertise in infiltrating each of the two parties. While the Abedins and the Sabras may be on their way out, a whole new set of Brotherhood faces will be preparing to pounce on Capitol Hill who speak the language of conservative Republicans.
“You are talking about not just an organization. You are talking about a cancer that was implanted into the U.S. government more than a decade ago,” said Christian, who was Muhammad Abdullah before he converted to Christianity and changed his name.

“And the cancer has been expanding ever since. With the election of Trump, you are talking about winning against the Bushes, the Obamas and the Clintons,” he said. “When it comes to Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood, they are all on the same page. So you go back to 1996 and see how that cancer was implanted. To start changing the tide, you have to find and introduce the real progressive Muslims to be working with the government, and that is going to be a very tough job.
“But it can be done with the will we have seen from Donald Trump.”

It will take a strong political will because any American talking about the Muslim Brotherhood as a subversive group that needs to be eliminated from the government is automatically going to be painted as an “Islamophobe” by CAIR and the other Brotherhood spinoffs. And they will have their lackeys in the media to parrot their charges of “Islamophobia.”

“Because that is their last line of defense,” Christian said. “The Brotherhood wants to nominate themselves as the only Muslims out there in America, and they are not.”
No other GOP candidate had the will to stand up to the media pressure that comes with taking on the Brotherhood. Even Trump may buckle. Only time will tell.
But Christian is hopeful that Trump, because he thrives on challenging political correctness, can be the one to free the Muslims who are more interested in assimilating than dominating.
“There is no such a thing as peaceful and radical. There are Shariah-compliant Muslims, and there are progressive Muslims who know what the traditional Islamic teaching is capable of doing and willing to do, and they are willing to part ways from that and live in America … stepping on all of the Shariah rulings of apostasy and other things,” Christian said. “They want to be modernized and want to live in the same century we live in no matter how hard it gets because they care about their families and the country we live in.”

Christian believes the truly progressive Muslims are afraid to speak out in the current environment where the Islamic message in America is 100 percent controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.
“President Sisi of Egypt is a very devout Muslim himself, but he is calling for reformation and progressiveness in the Islamic message,” Christian said. “He is the one who said we have to part with the idea that for 1.6 billion Muslims to live we have to kill [or convert] the 6 billion non-Muslims. We are not talking about reformation right now. We are talking about working with those who have it in their minds that they are willing to take that step. Give them the power to make their own reformation, based on sincere and honest intentions. And there are millions out there with them. It is not only that we allowed the Muslim Brotherhood into the U.S. and into White House, but for the last 20 years America has denied those progressive Muslims a stage where their voices could be heard.”

Watch Jamie Glazov explain the Muslim Brotherhood threat and why Obama shut down the prosecution that could have taken down the Brotherhood in America.






Jamie Glazov, host of the Youtube channel the Glazov Gang, believes Trump should make outlawing the Brotherhood a top priority.
“We know CAIR was involved in this financing of terror. We also know that ISNA, we know that the North American Islamic Trust, these Muslim Brotherhood front groups, were involved in terror financing, and so we were on the verge, America was on the verge, of going after these front groups and taking them out of business. … What did Eric Holder do? He stopped, he prevented the investigation and also the prosecution of these groups,” Glazov said in a recent video post.
And why would the Obama administration do that?

“Why would you block the prosecution of groups designed to infiltrate America in negative ways and to destroy America? These are our enemies, they want to destroy America from within,” Glazov said. “Why would you do that? We have for years unveiled why the left does these things, but I’m going to crystalize just one reason.
“It would look awfully strange if the people who are advising you, and the people you are hugging and embracing every day, and on the phone with every day, and have counseling and advising you in the FBI and other agencies, all of a sudden the next day are taken out in handcuffs. This would be a little bit embarrassing for the Obama administration, wouldn’t it” But that’s the case, because as many people have documented … the Muslim Brotherhood has penetrated the White House under Obama and is framing its foreign policy and domestic policy in terms of Islamic supremacism.
“In comes Donald Trump, and what a miracle and beautiful thing it will be if Trump picks up the game now and does a very important thing and takes CAIR and these other Muslim Brotherhood front groups right out of business.”

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Charlotte Cowell there were Muslims who voted for him too though....



Tony Bermanseder Like this brave and true ex-muslim lady indeed! And a liberal muslim Trump voter without hijab.



The Glazov Gang-Ex-Muslim Sarah Torrent…
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Germany: What a Christian translator hears in asylum centers and mosques is frightening

Posted on November 16, 2016 by creeping

Source: Germany: Shocking revelations when Christian woman infiltrates mosques and asylum centres posing as Muslim – Diversity Macht Frei

This is from an article published on the German Catholic website kath.net. The original report was made to an Evangelical Christian news agency by a 39-year-old Eritrean woman who came to Germany as a refugee in 1991. She works in the refugee camps and is taken for a Muslim because she has dark skin and speaks Arabic fluently.

According to her, security staff and translators are almost all Muslims. The 39-year-old says they make a very nice impression at first glance: “They have mostly grown up here, have often studied and have reputable professions, and they seem to be liberal-minded.” But that changes as soon as they are “among themselves”: “Then they show their true face and say things like ‘Germany must be Islamised’. They despise our country and our values.”The young woman was upset and for a long time did not want to admit it. She keep silent about the fact that she is a Christian in order to learn more.​

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Among other things she visited Koran instruction in various mosques: “Pure hatred of people with different beliefs is preached there. Their children are taught it from an early age here in Germany.” It’s the same in the asylum centres. She noticed how Muslim boys refused to play with Christians. The translator tried to mediate: “You’re a Muslim, he’s a Christian. What difference does it make?” The five-year-old answered: “I don’t play with Christians. My parents hate them too.”​

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She also tried to build up contacts with Muslims. Despite their young age, many of them already have several children. Cautiously she tried to explain contraception methods to them. “Many women said to me: ‘We want to increase our numbers. We must have more children than the Christians. It’s the only way we can destroy them.‘ When she objected and said but it is the Christians who are helping you, she was rejected. Defending Christians is a sin, they said.​

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The Muslim interpreters also lie in such a way as to disfavour asylum applications from Christians.

The European Mission Community (Penkun/Vorpommern) has also experienced the power of the Muslim translators. Its chairman, Frank Seidler, reports that, at hearings in the Federal office for Migration and Refugees, they often incorrectly reproduced the statement of Christian refugees during the asylum process. Therefore a Persian-speaking employee now accompanies the refugees to the interviews, so that he can intervene when needed: “Since then things have gone better.”

Christians often do not know about their rights

According to Kurt, the asylum seekers also have the right to a back-translation of the German questionnaire into their mother tongue. However, some translators did not even tell the Christians. On the other hand, the interpreters reported that the interviewee had renounced a back translation: “This reduces the chance for Christians to get a long-term recognition on asylum here.” The language barrier is also a problem in the accommodation A Christian is beaten by a Muslim because he eats pork in the common kitchen – and the interpreter goes on to the leadership that there has been only a general dispute over the use of the kitchen. “
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Source: Unerkannt in Flüchtlingsheimen: Was Christen alles erleben

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