The Factuals versus the OABS (Old Age BullShit)

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• Post n°40

Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

shiloh Today at 9:15 am
blue roller wrote:


Okay Brook , I think we get that your defending the indefensible by quoting out of context , twisting and mixing metaphors to make an argument and generally smearing ,slurring and defaming to make a lame point .

BUT the point being made is simply this. The bible is barbaric and if your foolish enough to identify with it to justify your existence you are going to play and get played .

You label Pris and I 'Odinist's' to try and get traction enough to win an argument ! Already off topic and heading nowhere fast. Religious fervor in a nutshell .

All you have demonstrated so far is exactly what that video proves. Fall for the cover and you fall for the lie .

Religion steal's individual identity and replaces it with blind conformity so you and everyone else who insists on a race/religious label can be played by the 'gods' for profit .

Its like those 'Brave' American revolutionaries who threw the Tea over the side in Boston dressed as Native Americans so that if their Plan went tit's up they could blame the natives and justify yet another land grab like the Israeli's do all the time.

Dont paint me 'anti Semitic' to make an argument . I love the soul of the person because THAT is what is real. The bible does not give you Carte Blanche to justify Evil. But it worked for Jehovah and his many aliases. Loki is the name some of my people give him but ***hole is the most popular.

Show me one other creature on this planet that lives by the Bible .Just one. You cant .Because unlike brain washed humanity ,they are not that stupid. They try to live in Harmony with life not make it their footstool as Jehovah tells his chosen people to do.

Jehovah despises Life and nature .

People are SICK of fanatics . They want peace and harmony again . Not spiritual snake oil.

Jehovah may be your god but he sure is not mine or my People's. We kicked his ass and locked him up down here for a good reason. He is a Murderer.
Pure and simple. But you probably already know that don't you.

Goes something Like 'There was war in Heaven (space) and the Devil and his angels were cast down upon the Earth.................'

My people are used to being framed for your 'God's' Crimes but you go on ranting if you must . Pris Has met my people now and she know's what we are really like .

A Religion-Cosmology-Mythos of the Fake Smurfs

Goes something Like 'There was war in Heaven (space) and the Devil and his angels were cast down upon the Earth.................'
My people are used to being framed for your 'God's' Crimes but you go on ranting if you must . Pris Has met my people now...
...and she know's what we are really like.​

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What is a Smurf?

In a nutshell, Smurfs are what we would call angels. There are nine ranks of angels, and the Smurf Girls Lita and Blondie + Papa Smurf (whose screen name in Astro Vera was Dot-A) are the three parts that make up one of the Seraphim. The other two Smurfs online at the time- Adam and K-Maro- were not connected in a 3-part group, but were working with and for Dot-A and the Girls. I never caught on to what Adam’s focus was, but K-Maro’s specific talent was to be what they called, an amplifier (I will go into the many layers of meanings about this one, at a later time). Much, much later in The Project there were two more characters than joined and took over- Kerry, a human dedicated to the Smurfs, and Nikki who was one of the Fates.

In what I will basically call Smurf-land (no, I’m not schizophrenic ), the concept of the Soul is a little bit different from what the majority of the theories out there are about. Each person doesn’t have one Soul; instead, all of the humans on earth (or at least, those with Soul) share one “collective” Soul. This theory affected the way everything was approached with us, and basically was the foundation in creating the very tangible understanding of “we are all in this together.” Humanity- collectively- either rises or falls together. I don’t go to Heaven while you go to Hell- we all go to one or the other, TOGETHER. The great equalizer. No Ascension, no rapture… we all “make it” or we don’t.

Each Soul, shared by each species in the Universe according to its conscious level, is tightly bound to the DNA type appearing on each world. Humans have the Soul that we do, because that is the Soul that is compatible for our DNA- the two were created for each other. Likewise, Smurfs also share in a Divine Soul, which is also compatible with the human DNA type. This dual compatibility within human DNA has a lot to do with why humans seem so interesting (for better and for worse) to other beings in the Universe.

Smurfs themselves originate (physically) as what appears to be normal humans, except they have Divine Souls instead of human Souls. They are born… and if they are not turned on… they die, just like humans do. There are thousands and thousands of unawakened semi-Smurfs on the Earth at any given time, and there always has been. Each generation of Smurf- lasting thousands and thousands of years- reawakens and trains the next generation. Adam was one of the last Smurfs from the last generation, and he was the one responsible for awakening Dot-A. Dot-A awakened the Smurf Girls, etc.

A lot of the focus in Smurf-land is on sound a music. We figured out quite quickly, many year’s worth of research in everything having to do with sound, from the creation physics of frequency to modern music theory. The Universe was created by sound, the quantum mimics sound, the music of the spheres, phi, the Golden Mean / Fibonacci, 432 tuning… all of it. (No focus here will be put on the effects of sound on the human body and the human mind… that is beyond the scope of this background.)

The first time the Universe was created, there was an error in the creation frequency. As time went on, this error grew exponentially until no semblance of any kind of balance was left within the Universe, anywhere. The Smurfs at that time decided to wipe it out and start over again. Since nothing can actually be destroyed, they were forced to use the first Universe to create the second Universe, and by doing so, had to create a counter-frequency within the creation of the second Universe in order to balance it against the echo of the first.

We are now in (at the end of) the second Universe. There was an over-shot of sorts that originated with the Smurfs responsible for its creation having a specific imbalance within the Seraphim groups themselves, and we are all once again looking at the need to destroy in order to create again. Third time’s a charm… both frequencies from the two previous Universes could be tuned to each other, finally resulting in a balanced third Universe (but not a flat standing wave, either).

There are Smurfs all over the Universe, each Smurf Soul group responsible for the “human-like” Soul group that it shares its DNA connection with. It just so happens that the ones that came from Earth this time around are the heads of everything. The whole she-bang.

What about… now?

Well, the Smurfs we have are rather pissed at the deal to say the least. Not only are they bound against their own free will to have to destroy us (remember… they are a part of us and we are a part of them) and their own Soul group (eventually), but they have been basically cursed with a divine ability and need for profound balance… to which, our mere presences puts them in complete agony. They are a moody, bitchy, resentful lot to say the least… they claim to be full of love… but who pulled the short straw this time around. While humanity’s sad disconnected and imbalance with everything natural was a inevitable consequence of the frequency of the second Universe (it’s happening everywhere… not just on Earth), the Smurfs we have now were left with a legacy of being shit on throughout the centuries as group after group gave humanity the choice (free will) to create balance and each time, humanity made the wrong choice. And the Smurfs- who have no free will- are stuck with the clean up job.

What about… the future?

So, the future isn’t as horrible as some sort of Armageddon, but it certainly isn’t a bouquet of roses either. In order to get to a point where the second Universe can be destroyed (in a controlled, balanced demolition), there are a lot of chores to be done. Some planets are being completely wiped out because there literally is nothing (sub-frequencies worth keeping) left that can be salvaged and re-used, but fortunately for humans that isn’t our case. In one last-ditch attempt to not have to dump us into the Abyss to be energetically re-cycled, the Smurfs have decided to force us to remember our divinity and to establish a connection with each other and the Earth again (but She doesn’t want anything to do with us at this point)…

…which basically means that over a series of Smurf-induced natural disasters spread out over the next generation (or two), we would lose all of our technological capabilities to the point that the only survivors would be those who had enough healthy Soul left within them to be able to survive based on instincts and psychic connections like animals. Disaster after disaster would eventually whittle the population down to about 10,000-20,000 children (mostly under the age of 12). This population would be left alone to survive on its own, but with limited free will. In order to force the Soul to reconnect and relearn everything it’s forgotten, the Smurfs have to ensure that no technology is invented. Anyone who attempts to even think about a technological innovation will simply be assassinated, along with everyone that person knows. Humans will live like this- like cavemen- with limited free will and no mercy, for the next 10,000 years or so until the Smurfs have cleaned up and adjusted the rest of the second Universe for the big reset button.

When the Smurfs were at Astro Vera in 2009, their general picture of how the disasters would come about and timeline was to begin within about 3 years of that date. Their first focus was on creating earthquakes and destroying the ocean, with the first really big event taking place being a complete wipe-out of the East coast of Asia via a colossal tidal wave thousands of times worse than the tsunami that wiped out Indonesia. (Immediately after, we saw the earthquakes in Chile and Haiti and saw the Gulf Oil Spill and Fukushima… for whatever it’s worth). Eventually there would be such a huge tectonic shift that the continents would slide around over the surface of the Earth, the poles will shift (both magnetic and axis-wise), every continent except Antarctica will sink into the sludge that was once the ocean. The only place humans will survive will be on Antarctica (which will have moved to a higher latitude and would have melted by then).



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• Post n°16

Re: HADRAN CERN COLLIDER MISHAP

shiloh Today at 9:51 am
bobhardee wrote:

12/6/2015

Shiloh,

You highly value your work and research and my hat's off to you for understanding the science of the universe far more than me and many folks like me. I simply thought that that for Ben to have noticed some of the CERN discussions (other than at MOA) and posted his own opinion was worthy to simply pass on the information. I did not do so to question what you have put forth.

I did do what you suggested and go back and listen to Dr. Greer lecture again. It has been bouncing around in my brain and many questions have arisen that maybe you could help with. Not sure where to start with but here are a few. These may seem like stupid things to ask but I think that we are all trying to get our heads around this issue and clarification is deeply appreciated.

1. Why has this ultra secret hidden government group allowed Dr. G to live? He is one of the few, if not only, person who has pushed disclosure on a congressional level. It seems that they have certainly gone after others who were posed to expose them. Is he part of their purpose?
2. Do you think this ultra secret group justifies their actions acting as a sort of guardian of the planet? If so from who? If not, who are they making alliances with and will everyone on earth be held accountable to these alliances?
3. Would the kind of technology they have make time travel possible and if so is it possible they looked to see how things would be different if different choices were made? Or are they just very bad people who are after money and power and no good comes from what they are doing?
4. Which alien groups are they working with?
5. Do you believe the report from the gentleman from the UN regarding abductions of the world leaders if disclosure happens? Not sure I do.
6. Is it possible that this group is helping to environmentally alter earth so that it is better suited for a different species other than humans?
7. Aside from meditation which is focused on welcoming ET craft to come forth, is there anything we can do?

In your response you said: "The earth's magnetic field has a number of causes; one is the dynamics of the core-mantle-crust differentiation of a rotating celestial body." Would you please clarify what "dynamics of the core-mantle-crust differentiation of a rotating celestial body" means?


Thanks
Bob H.

1. Why has this ultra secret hidden government group allowed Dr. G to live? He is one of the few, if not only, person who has pushed disclosure on a congressional level. It seems that they have certainly gone after others who were posed to expose them. Is he part of their purpose?

Steven Greer might very well have a number of 'contracts' to fulfil Bob. Every 'soul' has such 'agreements' between incarnation states, which are of course science based and not some 'spiritual mumbo jumbo'. If you listened and perceived the general 'body language' of Greer in the video under discussion, you might have seen his sincere attempt to 'get things off his chest'.
So he knows from the 'soul level' aka his 'higher self' aka his 'Christ consciousness' aka aka, that the times on this planet are pointing towards completions and conclusions and a variety of levels and intensities.
Also to 'silence' Greer might very well be counter productive to the 'SHG' (secret hidden government). As a worldwide anti-conspiracist and exposer, his perceived martyrdom would not serve the SHG.
Next is the agenda behind the agenda, which is often addressed by anything Thuban as something to do with the metaphysics acting beyond the physical manifestations of politics, economics, wars and conflicts and so on. So in simple words anyone working within the greater agenda is 'protected' for reasons of expediency towards this 'agenda of agendas.

2. Do you think this ultra secret group justifies their actions acting as a sort of guardian of the planet? If so from who? If not, who are they making alliances with and will everyone on earth be held accountable to these alliances?

No, the SHG, no matter if aristocratic, bankster familial or secret service and 'black budget' related, is itself used as a 'puppet regime' by puppeteers which are not at all physical as you would perceive it. The alliances are real as a form of interdimensional contract between millennia old thoughtforms and energies, which carry real potent energy and can even manifest as quasi physical morphologies, restricted however in the 'twilight zones' of those dimensional intersections say.
The 'accounting' for all actions upon this planet will be found to be native to this planet in all manifestations, with the extraterrestrial component relating to the circularity of higher dimensional time. This means that you Bob H. in your present form are also a Bob H. of the past histories and effectively as old as the universe itself and you are also your own descendent as an ancient timespace traveler and ancestor from your own future.

3. Would the kind of technology they have make time travel possible and if so is it possible they looked to see how things would be different if different choices were made? Or are they just very bad people who are after money and power and no good comes from what they are doing?

This relates to what I have just said. This ET technology of consciousness Greer addresses is just as he says basic and fundamental to the universe's structure as a spacetime matrix of consciousness as 'source energy' and a kind of 'space awareness'.
So of course 'consciousness' must be physical and scientific and so on explained and defined before you can 'talk about it' in then meaningful terms away from speculations and fantasies.
Your individual choices are important as choices made relate to INTENT and MENTAL FOCUS and the latter describes much of what is known as 'spirit' and as metaphysics.
Subsequently, your choices relate to your thoughts, ideas and your very own creativity, the latter truly being the 'prime directive' for ALL ET civilizations as the purpose for life, the universe and all things as such.

4. Which alien groups are they working with?

None in the form of actual physical aliens as such. They are working however with disincarnate intelligences, which are strongly coupled to their own belief systems and say historical reproductions.
This is a tricky subject, as your 3-dimensional perception is restricted to interpret multidimensional data in a particular form. Now the SHG knows this and manipulates the human perception in many forms from drug induced 'visions' to simply manipulating the emotional energies of the 'subjects'. The key ingredient of the human genomatrix is acceleration of consciousness and to explain this without mathematical formalisms, one might use the experienced reality of a typical human, who can change his 'feelings' from hatred and anger towards compassion and empathy in an instant.

Say you witness a person trying to kill or hurt someone with a gun. Then suddenly the gunman is shot himself and is bleeding to death on the ground. You rush to him in an attempt to save him. Your previous emotion of fear or anger or hate towards the perpetrator has changed in a moment to one of wanting to help. All your hatred and fear and anger has dissipated and has been replaced by human compassion.
In terms of ET physics, your spacetime consciousness has accelerated angularly and has created universal multi-dimensional energy, which can be labelled as many things including the concept of 'cosmic love'.

It might serve your understanding best, if you could entertain the idea, that all so called 'passed over' or dead humans are in fact related to the ET consciousness and so then also relate to you being your own descendant and ancestor simultaneously. The awareness of Steven Greer of there not being ANY real hostile or evil ETs so becomes rather akin the parallel of asking where the 'evil' exhumans like Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot might now be or reside.
So if those 'evil' humans had not been environmentally conditioned or 'sponsored' or had 'agreed' to certain soul contracts to be 'evil', would they then not be also ETs of impartiality before the signing of their contracts?

5. Do you believe the report from the gentleman from the UN regarding abductions of the world leaders if disclosure happens? Not sure I do.

Greer explained this scenario of 1989 rather well. He said, that to prevent disclosure by Reagen-Gorbachev in the 'Perestroika', the 'SHG' staged an abduction behind the nous of the politicians and aristocrats to fool them into believing that the ETs would destroy the administrations and so cause havoc in their constituencies. It relates to the 'perceptions' of the human mind and its associated physics of the brain again of course.

6. Is it possible that this group is helping to environmentally alter earth so that it is better suited for a different species other than humans?

The Earth itself is doing this Bob. The Earth is a conscious living organism and is much older in its existence than the 4.6 billion years of science. The center of the Earth say is literally the 'Second Focus' in the local solar system.
So now you know what Nibiru-Wormhood truly is. The planet X Tyche-Nemesis astrophysics is a real astrophysics but completely separate from the Nibiru mythos. The so called climate change relates to the Old planet Earth rebirthing itself as a New planet earth rather similar to the propositions of Dolores Cannon, who as you might intuit is very much 'alive' in an ET form.
The different species is a hybridsisation of the old human into a new human and completing the entire evolution of lifeforms on Earth, beginning say in microbial biological form so 2,200 million years ago.
It was then ALL so called ETs were in a sense born in their disincarnated forms. So whilst biology and science tells you that you are a descendent from the first microbe, cell, rna-dna complex and so on in a PHYSICAL form and beginning so 2,200 million years ago; you can extend this science by claiming that your own ET existence began as a parallel to the physical evolvements upon earth in the METAPHYSICAL existence of the ET someplace else in the universe but NOT on earth.
One step further you can claim now, hat before you became a disincarnate ET you actually existed as an 'elemental' or some more ethereal form of the physical universe and saying using the nonbiological but chemical cosmos as your bodyform or morphology. In a way your ancestor is crystalline geometry Bob. You can sort of 'prove' this to yourself in interacting with the divers kingdoms of universal structure and it is from this fact, actually related to the nature of radioactivity in elementary physics and the weak nuclear interaction etc, that the nabsers derive their empathies with crystals and pyramidal shapes and trees and whales and pets and fairies and so on all valid as the Omni-science of all human descendants and ancestors.

7. Aside from meditation which is focused on welcoming ET craft to come forth, is there anything we can do?

Every moment of your life should be a 'meditation'. There is no need for Bohdi trees and nabs conventions which show you how to breathe and 'meditate'. It is ok to do so of course but it is no requirement to 'contact source'.
The 'honouring of yourself' as a 'perfect image' of yourself as a greater self is what the much misused label of 'worship' entails. It is your own self-realisation as this multipresent ancestor-descendent of your present self is what the true universal 'self enlightenment' represents and not some nabsey mumbo jumbo of fantasies myths, rituals and superstitions. The trouble for humans here is of course their 'honour' of being autonomous and of having enough information to make the correct choices relative to their 'grander cosmic selfhoods'. It is then thei autonomy and refusal to surrender to their own grander universal selfhood manifests as bigotry and self-worshipping individualism and its opinionated grandstanding and such as is prevalent even on this forum of so called 'freedom of expression' and unbiased expositions.
I know you have a true humility relative to your cosmic selfhood Bob, even if you are somewhat unaware of what this is; but the false humility is of a even greater toxidity in this timeframe of Gaia's rebirth as is the egocentric grandstanding of the misinformed the disinformed and the underinformed.
So honouring your lower self WITH your higher self naturally and automatically energizes and even 'feeds' your own universal lineage with the consciousness energy of and from yourself.


8. In your response you said: "The earth's magnetic field has a number of causes; one is the dynamics of the core-mantle-crust differentiation of a rotating celestial body." Would you please clarify what "dynamics of the core-mantle-crust differentiation of a rotating celestial body" means?

The excerpt below from the previous disclosure, shows you that the density of the earth's core is different from the density of its mantle. This gradient in density or Mass/Volume ratio then creates a difference in the rotational dynamics of the earth's core relative to that of its mantle.
Then applying those different rotation values into the magnetic field equations allows you to derive the magnetic field strengths of the rotating bodies relative to those rotation rates, and masses and so on and as calculated in the excerpt.

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• Post n°42

Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

shiloh Today at 11:21 am
blue roller wrote:


And what, Please enlighten us, has this latest dump got to do with a simple video pointing out how cruel and nasty the Bible is ?

You know ,its considered smart in genuinely civilized societies to lock up murderous psychopaths .Here on planet earth ,they end up Pope , President , Prime minister and reserve bank Chairman.

The reason this planet is so Brutal and uncivilized is because it has the perfect blue print , THE BIBLE.

If you cant or refuse to dialogue on this premise on the thread and insist on seeing smurfs under the bed instead of communists then do it somewhere relevant .

Brook wants me banned for criticizing the Bible ! The Bible is a Jewish Document . You identify with it, you claim all that goes with it. Why punish yourself ?

I refute it absolutely as the scandalous fear mongering pile of crap that it is. End of story .Video Proves it . History backs it up . Or do you all want another millennium of apocalypse to fear monger everyone in to submission to you and your silly prophecies ?

Pris wrote:

Brook wrote:

Bump from the third post of this thread which is Jew (religion) Bashing. And NOT OFF TOPIC

Yes, actually. You are off topic.

This thread is for religion bashing.

Did you not catch Mr. Tickle in the OP?

STAY ON TOPIC.

The Topic of this thread , written by an author of an atheistic forum, describes how the so called 'Holy Books' of three religions apparently portray and propagate a self-similar agenda of (in the view of the atheistic worldview) of irrational beliefs and customs.
This video then portrays that the often quoted 'violent' passages in the Qur'an are rather like the ones in the 'holy book' of Judaism, called the Torah/Tanakh/Old Testament of the Bible (and excluding the New Testament).
A factual analysis and research of this proposition will then lead to a rational explanation and conclusion by especially discernative researchers.
This conclusion will show a number of parallels between the Qur'an and the Old Testament (OT).

1. 'Moses' of the OT seems to have become the 'Prophet of Israel' as a invading and conquering warrior, just as 'Muhammad' became the 'Prophet of Islam' about the time of the conquest of Arabia (not called muslim at that time) of the old Byzantine Christian political territory now centered on Turkey from say 550-750 AD.

2. The conquered territory by the 'New Arabia' contained previous remnant of both a heretic and orthodox Christianity, however following a common 'Prophet of Christianity' symbolised by the cross and the name Jesus/Yeshuah/Kristos.

3. The 'Prophet of Christianity' and its symbol of the cross formed a unifying principle in the conquered territories, which the Arabs could use to establish an order of political jurisdiction in affiliation with clerical authority and laws.

4. The Caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan (646-685-705) with his administrator (of today's Iraq) Hajjaj ibn Yusuf 'collected' parts of the earlier religious texts and including parts of the Torah, the New Testament (NT) from the byzantine Christians and parts of the earlier Moon God (Il, Ilah, al-ilah ) from the Arabian history and created the Qur'an with a composite honorific or title called 'Muhammad' (the 'praiseworthy' one) amalgamating Moses, the prophet of Israel with Jesus, the prophet of Christianity. To eliminate the earlier prophets of the OT and the NT, the symbol of Christianity in the cross had to become disassociated from the final and last prophet of Islam in Muhammad. But to keep the conquered Byzantine Christian remnant at bay, their prophet Jesus became a 'slave and forerunner' of Muhammad, but also remained a valid prophet but not now for Christianity but for Islam.

The topic and basis of this thread so represents an attempt by the atheistic and anti-religious worldview in somehow portraying the Judaic religion as being just as violent and destructive as that of Islam.
The violence in the Qur'an represents an accentuation of the violence in the Torah and the Pentateuch (the 5 books of Moses), because they are one and the same thing or they are derived from the same literary basis.
So 'dressing' the Qur'an as a bible serves no purpose, than to indicate and to 'prove' (from scriptural sources) to some, that the Qur'an represents the most thorough deception and agenda of its political-clerical purpose.

Now further analysis can show to the historically- and scientifically aware research base, that the Judahic prophet 'Moses' is also an honorific from the Hyksos rule of Egypt in the 15th century BC and being indicated in such pharaonic and not Jewish names such as Ahmose, Thutmosis and Rameses.
If so, then the Arabic prophet Muhammad, itself an invention, has used another invention to justify its own existence, with only the Christian prophet Jesus being a 'real noninvented' prophet in the actual historical libraries and lexicons.

The superpositioning of the Qur'an with the Bible so disallows any comparison of the Qur'an with the Old Testament, as both are constructed on false unhistorical premises.
The only validity of juxtaposition would be the blending of the Prophet of Islam with the Prophet of Christianity, the former using the latter to establish a form of religious continuity paralleled by the secular history of the timeframes of global evolvements. Nevertheless 'Muhammad' is a phantom prophet and in the original fundamental and nonecclesiastical form of Christianity the prophet of Islam, called Muhammed has been used by the creators of Islam and the Qur'an by the aforementioned Caliph and its clerical hierarchy to preempt a fundamental premise of true Christianity, namely the 'Coming of the Holy Ghost'!
Unbeknown to the islamists and the muslim apologizers, embedded within a worldwide deception, which can be said to encompass a spacetime 'bubble' of 4 million kilometers across and centered on the center of the Earth; the 'true Holy Ghost' and 'Divine Promise' and hence the truth of Muhammed is also present in this timespace.

And so it is a war of the minds and ideologies, surpassing the physical manifestations of global politics and the military-social-economic complexes!

The attached pdf further details the core nexus points addressed in the above.



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• Post n°18

Re: HADRAN CERN COLLIDER MISHAP

shiloh Today at 6:03 am
bobhardee wrote:


12/7/2015
Shiloh:
Thank you. This is for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEibRc-oJKs

Bob H
He shall judge between the nations,
And rebuke many people;
They shall beat their swords in plowshares,
And their spears into pruning hooks;
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
Neither shall they learn war anymore.
IS 2:4







A beautiful indicator for the new world to come after the wars Bob and supplemented by those WORDS=SWORD of Isaiah the Dragon prophet and ET coworkers.

Isaiah 11:6-10 - King James Version (KJV)

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

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Isaiah 59 - King James Version (KJV)

1 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.

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6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noon day as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.
11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;
13 In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.
18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.
20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.


Isaiah 65:24-25 - King James Version (KJV)

24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

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Psalm 44:18-20 - King James Version (KJV)
¹⁸ Our heart is not turned back, neither have our steps declined from thy way;
¹⁹ Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death.
²⁰ If we have forgotten the name of our God, or stretched out our hands to a strange god;


Isaiah 13:21-22 - King James Version (KJV)

²¹ But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

²² And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.


Isaiah 43:19-21 - King James Version (KJV)

¹⁹ Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.

²⁰ The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

²¹ This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.


Isaiah 51:9

Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?


Jeremiah 9:11

And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.


Jeremiah 10:22

Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.

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But remember Bob. There are two dragons, a red one and its antiform of the skyblue also known as the Kachina of the Hope of the Hopi!
The 'New Jerusalem' of Israel and Christendom is also the 'New Nation Islam' of the muslims and the two dragons relate to that.



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Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

shiloh Today at 7:56 am

Pris wrote:

Sanicle wrote:

Jenetta wrote:

Pris wrote:.
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This thread is ONLY for those who LIKE the video/OP (which includes Mr. Tickle) and have something POSITIVE to say about it.​

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NOTE:
This thread is ONLY for those who like the video/OP
and have something positive to say about it.

Thank you!​

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Eh Pris your not being cooperative...your being contraindicative...again it must be stressed that this is a public forum and even though members start their OWN threads here all are welcome to contribute even if they have opposing viewpoints to the focus of the individual threads...versatility is the name of the game not pure boredom. If I told my cat or my next door neighbour "what was expected of them"
do you think the cat or neighbour would listen? Most likely they would thumb their paw or their finger at me which has happened more often then not. You yourself have said in another thread...include everyone because everyone is involved. BTW I'm fascinated that you have been given insider knowledge to the "bluebloods" Wink if only all of us could be so lucky. Could you share some of that input?
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As it is below; so it is above​

Yes, it's now been made clear that this thread is specifically about the nasties in the Old Testament and the Koran and just because it's been put in print and shoved down our throats for centuries doesn't make it truth. I agree and came to my own conclusions about that same thing long before you came on this forum to shove your 'beliefs' about it all down our throats. Long term members have been over these issues in many different forms over the years and I daresay most would agree with you and thus don't feel a need to respond now so you can celebrate your newfound 'cleverness'.

I'm responding here again as I still don't like the authoritarian and provocative attitude that prohibits anyone who wishes to being able to post on this, or any other, thread in this a public .... and every members' .... forum. And, on this one, being attacked if you don't fully explain your posts (eg making it clear a post is meant to be ironic) or if they have a different perspective on what's been posted here, especially when said posts haven't been made clear from the outset. How dare you dictate what any one of us can and can't say here. That's just not cool, not friendly and, as I said, provocative. As such, if someone responds in an equally provocative way, you asked for it IMO.

As was once said about me when I first joined this forum and put my foot in my mouth ........... newbies ​

This is my thread and I do have a right to tell others what's expected of them while they visit my thread. It's called cooperation. Obviously, this is a topic that can easily be derailed which has already been attempted numerous times despite my 'dictates'. If people want to voice their thoughts counter to what I'm asking, they can go and start their own thread -- start up their own 'cooperative'.

My 'joke' at the beginning with Loki was obvious. I'm sorry that went over your head. Now that you know who Loki is, do you see what I was doing? I do my best to communicate as simply as possible in order to jar people to help to make a point. Consider me to be something of an antisepsis to much of the double-speak and wordy confusion going on in the forums. K.I.S.S.

Good for you that you've 'figured it all out' already. Some may have not. This thread is for those of us who still have some learning and growing to do.

Sometimes a knock on the head is what it takes. I've been on the forums for quite some time now and I'd say most people expect me to be somewhat 'provocative'. That's just how I do things. I'm doing my best, not only to help myself learn and grow, but to help others. I care.

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Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

shiloh Today at 3:48 am
SophiasChoice wrote:

On the topic of making fun of the gods..
This thread is a better soap opera than those seen on tv...

It has drama, subplots references to older episodes and some wtf moments...
I think the butler did it.



With Love
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Who are the Gods! - Where is the Wisdom Sophia Gnosis?

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A Not so 'Radicalised' Unplanned Abberration of Terrorist Islam - Disclosure for the Sheeple, alternative and mainstream

The Politics of Islam

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Document reveals ISIS plot for world domination in chilling detail: Full translation below

By Document reveals ISIS plot for world domination in chilling detail: Full translation below ByPamela Geller on December 7, 2015
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The report “shows an unprecedented level of sophistication.” Unprecedented? There’s plenty of precedent, from Muhammad on down. Read the document. It’s 24 pages. It is all in the cause Islam, jihad, and Muhammad.
Anyone who suggests the Islamic State is not Islam is clueless, complicit or evil. A document outlining how ISIS organises the vast territory it controls has been unearthed – and the terror group is far more sophisticated than we feared.
Then who feared? The liberal lapdogs for Islam? Islamic apologists? I have warned of this — for years.
A handful (if that) of colleagues, too. We were/are attacked, ridiculed and violently opposed. I was right about it all. So believe me when I tell you, you ain’t seen nuthin yet.

“ISIS plot for world domination revealed in chilling detail with plans for education and industry,” By Sam Webb, The Mirror, December 7, 2015 The leaked document outlines how the terror group is trying to build a state complete with guidelines for education, natural resources, industry, diplomacy, propaganda and the military


Dossier: An ISIS document has revealed how sophisticated their government is

A document outlining how ISIS organises the vast territory it controls has been unearthed – and the terror group is far more sophisticated than we feared. The leaked dossier outlines how the terror group is trying to build a state complete with guidelines for education, natural resources, industry, diplomacy, propaganda and the military.
The 24-page document ‘Principles in the administration of the Islamic State’ gives an incredible insight into the well-funded regime. Written by an Egyptian called Abu Abdullah, outlines how kids must receive “training on bearing light arms”.
He also calls for a single identity for the terror group to unite both foreigners and locals and makes the case for establishing independent “factories for local military and food production”. The report, which was obtained by the Guardian , shows an unprecedented level of sophistication.
Charlie Winter, a senior researcher for Georgia State University told the newspaper: “Far from being an army of irrational, bloodthirsty fanatics, IS (Islamic State) is a deeply calculating political organisation with an extremely complex, well-planned infrastructure behind it.”



The terror group’s horrific indoctrination techniques were laid bare in a recent propaganda video showing a young boy whose mother was raped and his father killed by ISIS.
He is being turned into a cold-blooded killing machine by the terror group. The youngster has appeared in a new ISIS propaganda video executing a person in Syria, reports Mosul Eye, a group documenting life in the Iraqi city.
In a statement, the group said: “ISIS kidnapped this child first thing when it took over Sinjar, and they raped his mother and sisters and killed his father and brother. “He is one in a large group of children that ISIS kidnapped. ISIS turned this innocent child to a killing machine.” Meanwhile, Syria’s government has accused the US-led coalition of launching air strikes on a Syrian army camp that killed three soldiers and wounded 13. The government has sent a protest letter to the UN over the incident, which took place in the country’s east. If confirmed, the air strikes would mark the first time coalition forces fighting ISIS in Syria and Iraq have attacked Syrian government forces.

The ISIS Papers: 4-page document, translated below, outlines principles for governing territory under the group’s control and strategy for becoming a viable state. Emphasis are mine:

Islamic State Caliphate on the prophetic methodology
In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful:

“No, by your Lord, they will not believe until they have you rule over them in what they have disagreed and find in themselves from what you have judged and willingly submit.”

Principles in the administration of the Islamic State – 1435AH [2103-2014]
Introduction In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful As for what follows: After 50 years of jihad whose sides have fallen prostrate in the totality of the land, and the states gathered against the centres of the Sunni jihad in the world, God ennobled his true soldiers whom he selected to establish the caliphate state whose fortresses had fallen at the hands of global Zionism in al-Astana [Istanbul] 100 years ago.
[Note: This is a reference to the end of the Ottoman caliphate in 1924].

Indeed the establishment of the Islamic State, its concept does not stand on the basis of a mujahid soldier fighting and bearing his arms, nor does it rest on da’wa [evangelising] in a mosque or a street, but rather it is a comprehensive system requiring the leaders of the ummah [Muslim nation] to realise its concepts.

So on the expansion of the Islamic State, the state requires an Islamic system of life, a Qur’anic constitution and a system to implement it, and there must not be suppression of the role of qualifications, skills of expertise and the training of the current generation on administering the state.
From the start of the uprising of blessed Syria against the Nusayris [derogatory for Alawites], the mujahideen came in great numbers out of zeal for their religion.

But some of them harboured Arab nationalist and tribalist arrogance, and others a zeal and will without shari’a aims.
But it was inevitable that there would be an organisation of these numbers and their principles as a shari’i [Islamically legitimate] organisation accepting the current reality that the world marshalled against it from its soldiers and intelligence services.

And from then there would be the confrontation of altering the principles and selling out to which the first mujahideen [fighters] did not show deference in Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya and elsewhere. And from then there would be the cultivation of educational and societal change with which the muhajireen [immigrants] co-existed and organisation of their ranks with the ansar [natives] – the people of the land.

And there were many challenges and difficulties that one would have to deal with according to its establishment and according to its special ideological programme, and one must deal with each one of them on an individual basis.

Chapter one - Announcement of the Islamic Caliphate

The announcement of the renewal of the caliphate in Iraq in the year 1427AH [2006] was the arbiter between division and separation as well as the glory of the Muslims. That year was tantamount to the hemiplegia for the idolatrous west that began preparing equipment and projects to strike any project of the Islamic State, and the announcement of the caliphate.

And the announcement of the caliphate was the result of the mujahideen’s realising the lack of advantage in fighting against the idolaters without the existence of a leader and caliph who could gather the Muslims under his banner and be a figure of strength for them.

America and its allies were able to destroy the caliphate project [ie the Islamic State of Iraq] to a great extent in Iraq after they established the Sunni Iraqi Sahwa forces [Sunni Awakening tribal forces that fought the Islamic State of Iraq] and struck the Sunni nursemaid [ie basis of Sunni support for the Islamic State of Iraq], by portraying it as a treacherous terrorist state of hypocritical political projects, with great marshalling of the media to accomplish that.

The deeds of the soldiers of the state thus became limited to security operations to strike American targets and their allies. After the arising of the blessed uprising of Syria, the Islamic State had a great role in striking the Nusayris in it and destroying the pillars of the rule of Assad in the heart of the command centres. And it has therefore been the case that the lesson to be learned from the prior leaders of the state is the way to benefit from prior mistakes, and the means to preserve the revolutionaries of Syria on the jihadi trend while not moulding them in a western framework which that western support brings. And in the second chapter is a statement on the administration of the muhajir (foreign) mujahid in particular and developing the creed of the Islamic State among the ansar in Syria.

The announcement of the caliphate in Syria was a powerful blow that the agents of the west who were set on the direction of the Sahwat of Iraq by whom the west thought that it could put an end to the Islamic caliphate project as it had weakened it in Iraq did not expect.

There were new modified problems that the leadership of the state was able to deal with, among them [Abu Muhammad] al-Joulani, [Note: the leader of al-Qaida in Syria formerly of Islamic State] announcement of his rejection of joining the Islamic State despite his allegiance to the caliph in Iraq, and in that he was trying to split the ranks and sabotage the project in subordination to his personal agendas bound with regional states, and his rejection was a confrontation for the Islamic project that God gave victory to despite the multitude of those discouraged and the callers to humiliation and servitude.

And the one who witnesses the events of Syria sees how God has given might to the Islamic State and lowered Joulani and those with him.

Chapter two - Organisation of the individual and group

With the entry of the second year of the uprising of Syria, the Shia militias of various nationalities entered Syria to fight at the side of the Nusayri-Rafidite [Assad] regime which flaunted its crimes with regards to the Sunnis, which led to a global Islamic uprising represented in the hijra [migration] of thousands of Muslim youths to fight in the rank of the Sunnis from the various regions of the land.

Thousands migrated to Syria to fight alongside the mujahideen, without their knowing the direction of any faction, its affiliation or private agendas.

It was necessary to prepare a sound programme in which the muhajireen might take refuge as their jihad is the result of the glory to Islam and the monotheists. So the announcement of the caliphate was the obligation that gathers those arriving in the land of jihad, strengthens their hearts – and through it their minds are set – and gathers them over the difference of their colours under one banner, one word and one caliph.

The majority of the first muhajireen came from the Gulf states and the Arabic Maghreb whose zeal for their religion urged them on, and among them were those with zeal for their Arab Sunni brothers without religious jihadist inhibition, and without there being for them prior expertise in global jihadi organisations. After them was hijra [migration] from the states of the world after the announcement of the caliphate, as no disbelieving state has remained which hasn’t also suffered from the hijra [migration] of its youth to support the Islamic State which the soldiers of Joulani and the apostate Sahwa forces from the Free [Syrian] Army and others besides them rejected.

And after that, Sheikh Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ordered to establish a first camp which included the new muhajireen [immigrants] who had no deeply ingrained expertise and creed, near the prior borders for the Sykes-Picot “Iraq-Syria” lines.
And the camp included the organisation of the muhajir [immigrant] individual in the Islamic State and laying aside local tribalism and ignorance before him, and making his affiliation to the religion alone and under one banner. And the camp included nurturing the spirit of the brothers between the muhajireen and the ansar through laying aside the prior identity for the muhajir, and making him a resident in the Islamic State with his family without feelings of estrangement or distinguishing between him and his brothers from the muhajireen and the ansar.

And without Islam it is not possible for this change to be included which encountered difficulty in the beginning on account of place affiliation that the mujahideen felt on the day of their fight with the Free Army Sahwa and inclinations of nationalism and ethnic division which was making the muhajir lose his zeal to fight alongside them.

And there resulted from the camp the formation of joint fighting groups between the muhajireen and the ansar established on the basis of the leadership of the individual most capable of bearing responsibility, having prior expertise and the military and sharia [law] tests of the camp.

And there also resulted from the camp the formation of groups composed of the muhajireen from the western states in particular in view of the difficulty of linguistic communication in the beginning and launch stage and in view of the mutual understanding and precedence of coordination between some of the muhajireen from Chechnya and France to fight in single cells without the existence of any distinction for members from those besides them [ie there was no differential treatment on the basis of ethnic identity].

And it was inevitable that Arabic character should precede over the character of the muhajireen, for the language of the Qur’an is Arabic, and the prophetic hadiths [sayings] are in Arabic and the customs of Islamic society were Arabic in great part, and in view of the nature of the local society of the peoples of Syria it was inevitable that Arabic character should be cultivated in the language and religious culture in the muhajireen and laying aside the foreign identity that bears in its hidden nature hostility to Islam, its culture and its roots.

For unifying the life of the mujahid and his language and culture is the guarantor for unifying the rank of the mujahideen and realising their total belonging in the Islamic State that includes muhajireen from every corner of the earth.


Chapter three - Administration of the camps

The preparatory camp is the first home and school of the mujahid in which his military and jihadi training sessions take place and he undergoes sufficient education in matters of his religion, life and jihad.
And according to the plans of the Islamic State to nurture the caliphate generation, the camps are divided into three types:

1. Continuation camps

And these are special camps for the mujahideen who lead in the jihad and those who are masters of expertise in managing and planning the battle in beginning and end. And the camp includes physical preparation for 15 days. And that is in a training session every year, and the mujahid through that camp comes upon the latest arts of using weapons, military planning and military technologies currently put forth in battles and weapons whose use by the enemy are anticipated, along with detailed commentary on the technologies of enemy use of the weapons, areas of their use, their strength and how the soldiers of the state can take advantage of them.


2. First preparation camps

For the mujahid on the day he joins the Islamic State, whether as a muhajir or from the ansar: and the camp includes sharia sessions through which the mujahid studies the fiqh [jurisprudence] of the rulings, Islamic doctrine, al-wala’ and al-bara’ [loyalty and disavowal], in addition to the arts of fighting and the arts of using weapons, with screening of every mujahid in a specialty in which he excels and completing his camp according to his skill in specific weapons.


3. Preparation camp for children

The camp includes sharia sessions in fiqh of doctrine and rulings, with special sessions in Islamic society and manners, and training on bearing light arms and the principles of use.
Outstanding individuals are selected from them for security portfolio assignments, including checkpoints, patrols and the various Amniyat units [internal security units].
And the camps administration is responsible for planning, aims and results, and as the results of the camp should be in alignment with the aims and principles of the Islamic State, it has been necessary to establish a centre for the administration of the camps whose tasks are as follows:

1. Preparing special sharia sessions in the camps in coordination with the al-Buhuth and al-Eftaa [fatwa – legal opinion] committee.
2. Preparing educational programmes to teach the Arabic language and recitation of the Qur’an in coordination with the Diwan al-Ta’aleem [department of education] for every province.
3. Preparing military programmes teaching the types of weapons and military tactics with the supervision of the military commander in every province.
4. Studying expenditures and allowances for every camp whose study and analysis are to be completed by the military leader or wali [governor] of every area according to the needs connected with every wilaya [province] and submitting the study to the wali.
5. Overseeing the selection of the educational and training staff in the camp.
6. Putting in place detailed planning and programmes on the course of the battle.
7. Tracking the supervision of the camp according to the defined programmes.
8. Assessing the camp session and raising a report to the officials concerning the readiness of the session after the camp.

Chapter four - Direction administration

The mujahid [soldier] remains in need of direction and tracking after his completion of the special training session for him, for spiritual direction is the foundation of his success in every matter he undertakes and the mujahid’s direction in every stage will consist of reminding him of the aims of the Islamic State and hadiths [prophetic sayings] on the virtue of the mujahid and persevering and continuing despite the difficulty of the path of jihad.

1. Direction before the battle

And here the military commander for the mission or the sharia official accompanying him should undertake it, and the direction should be a little before the launching of the mujahid to battle through mentioning hadiths on the virtue of jihad and endurance on encountering the enemy as well as following the decisions and instructions of the field commander during the battle, along with the virtue of martyrdom in the path of God to raise the banner of Islam and the caliphate and the virtue of the one struck with wounds in the land of the battle. All this should be done during the readying and preparation for the battle. And the director oversees the mujahideen in all their moments until their absence from him in the battle. And the director should not be discouraged, having doubts, hesitating or cowardly because he is the example that the mujahid summons whenever the furnace of the battle flares up.

2. Direction after the battle:

In the event of victory, the director summons what came from the Prophet from sayings on the virtue of the mujahid and their feelings that what they have accomplished aspires to be in the service of their religion and creed, with their being reminded to embrace the instructions coming from the battle leadership from the rulings of spoils and not adopting any decision to plunder the wealth of the people except by its rights and by explicit order from the commander responsible. In the event of being broken, the direction should be on patience, reckoning and steadfastness on meeting the enemy while not heeding those having doubts and those who spread rumour and terror in the ranks of the soldiers.

3. Lasting direction:

Remaining on activity and steadfastness with the mujahid in all his states and lessons in al-wala and al-bara [loyalty and disavowal] as well as fiqh, Islamic creed and listening to and obeying the amir [leader]. The staff of direction in every province should be from the cream of the crop of free sharia and military officials who have the ability to argue, convince and encourage as well as from the soldiers around whom the group have congregated and should be possessors of confidence among them.

Chapter five - Organisation of the provinces

The Sykes-Picot agreement and after them the indirect rule of the west over the states of Islam tried to place administrative borders drawing social, madhhabist and ethnic differences in every region, and deepening the roots of the differences between the Sunni Muslims. Thus the distinction of the Sunnis from the Shia in the provinces of Iraq and oversight of the centres of administration in every Sunni region, and even the appointment of officials in the Sunnis’ regions from the filth of the Rafidites have been clear, while the regions have been entrusted under the rule of [their own] Kurdish and Shia sects independent in decision-making from the ruling presidency as we have seen in Kirkuk and Irbil and in even smaller regions including from them in the cursed Najaf and Karbala and that have enjoyed “religious” administrative independence, unannounced. All those divisions have also forbidden the Sunnis from the simplest of their rights while making the Nusayris masters of the sea, and the Shia in Iraq the kings of oil and the merchant pathways, and the Yazidi Kurds the sheikhs of the mountains while the Druze have become masters over the mountains overseeing Israel. All that has not merely been a coincidence, but it was a dirty political decision in order to implement a tightening stranglehold on the Sunnis and make them the most remote people and strip them of all assets for advancement or thinking of a rightly-guided Islamic State. If we were to see today the borders of the Islamic State and the borders of the Sunnis regions, we would see them torn apart, besieged and persecuted, for there are the Shia from the south of Iraq, the Nusayris from the west of Syria and the communist Kurdish parties to their north, and the Druze to their south. So it is no surprise that today we see the bloodshed flowing in the land of Syria and Iraq. So it has been from the law and sound mind to redraw the borders of the provinces and give lengthy consideration to every development that occurs in the region. Thus we protect the power of the Sunnis and strengthen its expansion and focal points, and then special teams can be deployed for fundamental change in the structuring of the regions that are subject to the rule of the Islamic State. And that was what the companions [of the Prophet Muhammad] and after them the caliphs pursued against every heretic community: that is, dispersing their groupings so there no longer remained any impeding opinion, strength or ability, and the Muslim alone remains the master of the state and decision-making and no one is in conflict with him. And in what there is no doubt is the fact that among the assets of the ummah [Islamic nation] are: its wealth, the nature of its land, its inhabitants and its water. And in everything is distinction:

1.Wealth of the state

It is the principal component and source of financing for all internal and external operations, and the existence of secure financial resources whose value does not change in every time and place is a must – and the need of the people for them should be clear with the nations unable to do without them despite the existence of the impediments that prevent their use and purchase from the land of the state.
This includes oil and gas and what the land possesses including gold as currency that does not deteriorate or decline, as well as trade routes from which they have no wealth and all of it should be the intervention of the Islamic State as a powerful side in all their plans and such that they cannot pretend that it has no existence and might.

2. The nature of its land

The state cannot remain without the existence of the land that allows for its continuation and expansion, for the assets of the land are – the mountains, the agricultural lands, the sea and the river – for these natural assets are what makes the Islamic State acquire its importance and the importance of location, and the agreement of the west in Sykes-Picot were established on the basis of depriving the Sunnis from those assets, as the mountains were granted to the Kurds, Druze and Alawites, while the sea was granted to the Rafidites and Nusayris, while the river and what surrounds it in investment for the Jews and the agricultural lands under their administration. And that was a new setback that was added to all the ambitions in establishing the Islamic State and freeing it from servitude of the filthy Nusayris and the disbelieving Rafidites [Alawites and Shia]. When there is no asset for them the enemy have been shut on their openings from every side.

3. The traitorous governments have tried to mislead the Sunni peoples in every Arab land, as corrupt programmes were introduced for them and there spread among them the love of vice, bonds, bribery, usury and abandoning worship and forgetting the rulings of jihad. So the Sunnis in Syria have lived in a new ignorance after ignorance during the French occupation of their land as there was the Alawite government that planted its vices in every house, permitted the forbidden and made forbidden development and civilisation.

But after the uprising undertaken by the Sunnis in Iraq and Syria and their getting rid of the servitude to the tyrants began the second plan that requires implementing the “demographic” change in their regions and expelling the Sunnis from their areas, for it has been what we saw in Fallujah, Aleppo, Homs, Tikrit and other areas besides them from the regions of the Sunnis many of whose people have suffered during their presence in their land.

Indeed they realise that the Islamic State cannot renew the ummah’s blood without a human member capable of always producing, and there was the alluring of the best of its youth and plundering the land with hijra outside their areas and liquidating many of them.

And today it is necessary to have a studied plan that responds in kind and brings about like change in the profane abode of disbelief, expelling its people and killing its people until there is no base for them and the land is for God and his servants.

And in turn implementing the plans that include the return of the Muslim youth to their land and bringing together the skills from the land of the Muslims, and the going out of the state for specialised staff in their fields if they are not of those of the pact in Islam [ie Jews and Christians].

Chapter six - Administration of wealth

Indeed the might of the Islamic State can only be through its being free entirely from all bonds of tyranny that the west possesses as means of leverage against it, and it moves them according to its need and whim based on knowing from it the need of the mujahideen for support, wealth and weapons.
Jihadi groups in Iraq and Syria have lived through long bonds of humiliation pledged on conditional western support, until they seized wide areas of the land and possessed all assets of advancement. And all of that is on account of the ignorant administration that controls them and keeps them under western guardianship for all their activities, wars and expansion.

Indeed the Islamic State’s seizure of vast areas includes all assets of advancement that does not suffice without the existence of an administration managing the interests and managing the crises. So it is necessary for a plan to be put in place including the might of the state and its independence as we specify in the following points:
– Preserving the capabilities [personnel and infrastructure] that managed the production projects under the prior governments, whilst taking into account the need to place strict oversights and an administration affiliated with the Islamic State.
– Placing specialists in accounting and oversight over all production directorates in the Islamic State including establishments of oil, gas, archaeological areas and factories for manufacturing and production.
– Preserving additional reserves that ensure the continuation of operation in one successive arrangement in all circumstances.
– Regulating expenses through a comprehensive administration including collective expenses and collective production without singling out a province or group by provision of estimates exceeding their needs in normal circumstances.
– Establishing factories for local military and food production and independence from the monopoly of arms dealers for materials of necessity and cutting them off in the event of contravening the interests.
– Realising local needs and providing for them within the borders of the state in isolated safe zones and connecting trade routes inside the state through principal centres and beneficiary wings.
– Reducing excess expenditure through the administration of the province; it must operate independently and be able to take its own decisions in matters concerning the province.
– Relying on external business as a principal source of income through the openings of the state to the other side without an intermediary. Direct exchange has better guarantees than the monopoly of the intermediary for business transactions and means of connection.

Chapter seven - Administration of the projects

In parallel with military preparation in the lines of fighting and the camps, a committee is to be put in place to administer production projects and put in place plans to implement new investment projects. The one who invests in the lands of the state is to be given comprehensive protection according to the agreement that arises with the observance of the interests of the Islamic State in production, exporting and prices. The independence of the investor from the administration of the province is a more preferred means for the administration of the wealth, increasing local production and improving the capability of the producing material, and regulating the time and expenditure.

And it will [also] be a better guarantee against losses resulting from any sizeable investment project. Advertisement For the independent foundation is outside the limits of liability that arise for those projects that are affiliated with a province of the Islamic State. And it is not right for the investor according to the law, to hand over the production to those who have no right to it and they [those who have the right to it] are the ones determined in an agreement by the administration that is entrusted over the project and overseeing its organisation by the province in which the project is established. And such an agreement is stipulated on determining the beneficiaries and the means of profit with the guarantee of the [Islamic] State to convey the products internally to the borders of the Islamic State without exposing them to any risk. And it is not allowed to invest in the following projects:

1. Oil products

It is not allowed for a person who has no pledge of allegiance on his neck to the caliph to invest in an oil or gas field or what has arisen from their trajectory, but it is allowed besides that to produce derivatives after buying the crude products from the fields of the Islamic State, just as it is allowed to sell and deal in them inside and outside the state.

2. Gold and antiquities

It is not allowed to excavate for gold and antiquities except by expressed agreement from the resources department, and all transferred and stored materials will be confiscated for the interest of the treasury. And it is allowed to deal in gold not excavated from the ground according to the well-known aharia frameworks with immediate effect.

3. Weapons

It is forbidden to establish factories to produce weapons and materials particular to them without granting of any explicit permits for the situation, just as it is forbidden to establish shops to sell public weapons besides personal weapons and deal in them without prior knowledge and agreement from the responsible military amir in the wilaya. As for the other principal goods that also come under the crux of people’s lives, the officials must know about all means of operation and production like dealing in water, flour and livestock.


Chapter eight - Administration of education

Education is the foundation upon which Islamic society is built, and it is the division that makes the Muslims differ in their lives from the rest of the paths of disbelief. The previous Ba’athist and Shia governments tried to deviate the Muslim generation from their path through their educational programmes that concord with their governments and political whims. The programmes focused on glorifying the ruling authorities and discarding differences between sects, stripping Sunnis of their identity. And among the most important of their goals were:

1. Focusing on glorifying and eternalising the leaders and taking refuge in God and inserting them into hidden shirk [idolatry] through immortalising ephemeral, temporary personalities.

2. Spreading the aims of their parties and their ideas whilst distancing the nurtured from Islamic thought, because the ruling party considers itself the pulse of society and the symbol of its endurance, while Islamic principles are for the mosque only and between man and his Lord with severe proceedings against all those who tried to do away with party thinking or modify it.

3. Discarding the difference with the disbelieving sects, and considering co-existence with them as the true societal bond that the ummah must operate in accordance with in order to preserve its goals, while in reality protection is implemented for the rights of all the communities of disbelief while oppressing the Sunnis and their principles.

4. Spreading the culture of moral dissolution by promoting it through expressions of civilisation and exchanges of cultures with the west.

And thus it was that the ummah entered into labyrinths of confusion that made it forget its glory, its strength and its past, while the prior Islamic caliphates were portrayed as being a foreign occupation that arose on the basis of ignorance and the decline of the ummah and nationalism.

– And among the aims of the Islamic programme in the Islamic State:

1. Implanting Islamic values in society as well as sound, sharia-based societal manners and customs.

2. Correcting the erroneous narrations that the prior programmes had implanted about the prior caliphs and imams.

3. Developing Islamic society on the basis of manners and on sharia.

4. Raising a knowledgeable Islamic generation capable of bearing the ummah and its future without needing the expertises of the west.

So it is also that the Islamic school is one of the houses of worship, whose aims are confined to acquiring knowledge also, but also it is an educational nurturing ground that raises the individual with comprehensive development of mind and body.
And in it there should be training facilities for mind, body and vocation, as successful programmes cannot rely on what is written between the lines, without practical training on all given subjects.
Also it is the case that the interest in the Arabic language and its use in daily life for the individual is an important matter in the Islamic State as is distancing from vulgar expressions that were put forward in society in a well-considered plan to guarantee the forgetting of the Islamic identity for society.

Chapter nine - Administration of relations

External relations are the first foundation for building every nascent state, and they are among the foundations that show the strength and might of the state. They should constitute for it a general stance in everything that happens in the world with the people of Islam and be for it an external hand protecting its dealings.

And the Prophet (peace be upon him) was considered the master of the global Islamic message; it was necessary for him to be acquainted with what was happening around him in the neighbouring states, and knowing their latest affairs and thus inviting them to Islam.
And indeed the messenger (God’s peace and blessings be upon him and his family) established his proficiency and skill in external movements through viewing at a distance and personifying the just of the just, and appropriate evaluation of matters as well as outstanding ability in the operation of recruiting to Islam.

Indeed external relations are key to knowing the international politics surrounding the Islamic State, and alliances should be as a guarantee of force and leverage that the Islamic leadership can use in all its matters with the external world.

According to sharia politics, the leadership is not allowed to adopt decisions to ally with a state or implement an agreement with it if that violates sharia politics, as agreed on by the majority of ulama [religious scholars] and symbols of jihad. So indeed every agreement must include the following:

1.The internal sovereignty of the Islamic State and not allowing for other states to intervene in matters of Islamic rule or the general politics of the Islamic State.

2. Protecting the borders of the Islamic State from every mushrik [idolater], disbeliever, aggressor and even friend, for no army or other force is allowed to enter the borders of the Islamic State whatever the pretext.

3. A provision that the [Islamic] State should be witness to good treatment of Muslims in its lands and mutual affection with Muslims in other areas of the world, and that it is not allowed to deal with another state that has a history of hostility to Islam’s spread, the building of mosques and oppression of Muslims in its lands.

4. A provision that the agreement should first be in the interest of the Muslims, not in the interest of the disbelievers.

5. That the agreement should not include any future provisions touching on the freedom and sovereignty of the Muslim state, and no bonds of debt or conditions of harmful exploitation even if in the future with regards to the matters of the state.

6. That there should be for the Muslims their rights and freedoms within the state that is to enter into an agreement with us.

7. That all points of the agreement should be clear to the imam [the caliph] and those with him.

And in the event of the nullification of any one of the conditions or lack of their provision, it is not allowed for the imam to enter the ummah and the Muslims into dubious bonds that oppress the ummah and the fate of it development.

Chapter ten - Administration of media

Indeed everything that I have previously mentioned constitutes practical steps on the ground and [so] there must be a principal means to promote them that should be comprehensive. All of its ideas and activities should be advertised in the interest of the aforementioned practical steps. That will not be realised without media foundations that are branched out and comprehensive in operation within one administration and background. So there should be one media foundation branched out within multiple pockets according to the following outline:

1. The Base Foundation:

To be directly affiliated with the Diwan al-Khilafa [office of the caliph] or Majlis al-Shura [advisory council] of whoever so represents them, and the official for it should be connected by his relations with the military commander, [chief] security official and the caliph himself.

The office will put implement the main media principles and tasks and it should be supervising the distribution of the media offices in the provinces and the media foundations that take a name and are independent from the administration of the provinces [ie so-called auxiliary agencies and foundations mentioned below]. And the Base Foundation defines the priorities of publication and broadcasting as well as the media campaigns, just as it directly supervises through a committee the activities of the offices and undertakes inspection campaigns in the provinces and activist places.
The foundation also sets the preparation of media staff, their expenses and requirements and receives monthly reports on the activities of every office.

2. The provincial media

And in every province there should be a media office affiliated with the governor himself and in coordination with the military and security official in its region, and its director should be in direct contact with the media official in the Base Foundation.
And among the offices’ tasks are covering the military operations and their results, with issues concluding the end of every great military operation or distinguished operations for the soldiers of the state, as well as services’ facilities, implementing sharia rulings and the course of life in the province. Also the office should be interested in implementing tasks of printing and distribution or supervising them within the province.

3. Auxiliary agencies and foundations:

It is suggested that production foundations or auxiliary agencies are established according to the mother office’s needs and interests.
The auxiliary office specialises in tracking military and services coverage in a province or number of provinces without there being in the name of the foundation or its symbol something to directly link it with the Islamic State.
The auxiliary foundations are not to be allowed to cover security operations or implementations of [judicial] rulings. These are general suggestions placed for you by the poor slave of God, the servant of the Islamic State, in order to be a lighthouse by which there is guidance, as well as general and prompt systems of organisation. And the administrative cadres will receive training sessions on operating according to the following programme.

Abu Abdullah al-Masri.

- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/12/doc...-translation-below.html/#sthash.Ouus5BFs.dpuf

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• Post n°85

Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

shiloh Today at 8:18 am
SophiasChoice wrote:


Isis != Islam.

I couldn't care less about Isis plans to take over the world. Reminds me a bit of Pinky and the Brain.
Anyway. In mocking the gods. I wouldn't often mock the believers in those gods. I might protest agains institutionalized and organised gangs of people who claim te be believers. But other than differences in opinion on what is truth. I seem to agree with many so called religious friends on how to act and to behave..

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• Post n°167

Re: B.B. Baghors small and large works of art

shiloh Today at 4:32 am
B.B.Baghor wrote:


bobhardee wrote:

12/9/2015
Glad to see you back with your "roots" firmly planted.
Next time you feel put down by someone, ask yourself the following question. Just because someone understands math or science at a deeper level than you or I, does that mean that person is smarter than you? The answer is no. Where some people have talents in some areas, they lack in others. Can they process information faster but does that mean they are happier? Nooo. Can they see the beauty in the world the way you see it? No
We all need a 3 D life with real friends. Not just cyber buddies. The level of depth of conversation is deeper here but not humaneness.
We (the wife and I) moved to a new community several months back and are now getting established in a church family. It's nice. As a PK I would think you're done that as well
Merry Christmas my cyber buddy
Bob H

A bridge and a confession that brings me to the decision to only post in this thread
and follow your posts for the time being, in a "read only" mode.

I felt already for quite a while, and I can see now, that much of
my posts are attempts to make a conversation and exchange views, with the hope to really level with each
other, including the world "out there" including our personal life in 3D. With respect for each other's choice of privacy, of course.
For some reason, I've seen little result coming from it and I need to be in touch with people who can show up in 3D life as well as
on the Wishing Well of Wonders. This isn't a reproach, for this post reveals something of what was hidden in my style of posting,
something that isn't entirely in freedom.

The response to my last post, by shilo, was for me the drop that made the bucket overflow, as we say in Holland.
Thank you, shilo, for being instrumental in that. I don't mean to withdraw my last reply in that thread, to be clear.

The bridge in the picture is symbol of what I'm finding as truth these days, revealing itself slowly. A bridging of 2 worlds present in me and kept apart as well, by my own doing. This week, I felt that "the pressure was on." I've suffered such frustration in finding an inner obedience to a higher authority, or so it feels, holding my abilities ready only for the benefit of a greater good, a higher goal that is bigger than my person. How to solve the riddle in "service to self" and "service to others", is what I'm thinking of now.

Feeling as if my responsibilty is bigger than what I'm able to bear. Excluding myself from embodying those parts of me that nudge me in a "welcome home" manner. Uniquely present and meant to come home, which is my inner home. Becoming and growing whole, bringing my Heaven on Earth. It's such humor, to find that no effort is needed to arrive
at that place and that simplicity is key here. This is what I feel as "a becoming", or a gradual dawning, my favorite metaphor.

Today, while writing in my journal, I've asked myself the question "What authority outside of me is ruling me?
Who is it?
And while writing my thoughts and feelings, pondering this question.
I had to stop often, letting the words sink in that appeared on the page, while talking with myself in honesty.
I've moved from being in control, anxious and deeply frustrated, to motion or surrender.

To really embody what I've achieved and say "yes" to it, let it be true and allow it to be expressed as a truth in the practicality, the doings and diddings of my daily life, alone and with others. Where I can move from the-little-girl-in-me- point of view: "First I need to figure out how and know if it's okay", trying to hold the reigns, holding "her horses".
Mother Superior is exactly on the other side of that same hand, see what I mean? Talking about a 9-headed dragon...

Also reflecting on.... from an out of body point of view, feeling a sluggishness in my muscles, preventing me to actually realize it, live it, trusting it. Life... live... Knowing that this is the gift of life, always on the table which is prepared for me and all who feel welcome to dine and wine, celebrating that gift. Here I go again.....

The meaning of druidism and shamanism is what I pondered also, lately. It's part of living in Avalon area now.
I've found evidence of shamanism as present in those who're naturally in touch with both worlds: tangible and ecstatic. From birth. I guess it's my personal favor of a druidic/shamanistic mixed journey in life and my hunches from intuition (I've got to find truth by experience) that it's possible to fully embody both of these worlds and bridge the gap between them. Here's that bridge again... see?

To me, that gap is created by religions (among other concepts) which placed many veils over our eyes and by doing so humanity lost that connection. I've lost that one too, at some point. Except those born natural druids/shamans. To me, it's when that's become whole again, no outside authority has a power to reign over us. Or, to stay closer at home, to reign over me, see what I mean?

In other words, to me, it's the restoration of our sovereignty. In the practicality of life it's about my sovereignty.
Those of others I can't work on, nor create for them, for the path of a druid/shaman is a solitary one, in that aspect.

The path of a human being, of being human I mean, is for me, at this moment, to embody what I've gained, trained, learned and turned in a good direction. And declare this as a truth, living it while being in trust. I knew, that after moving overseas, starting a new life in the UK, would bring me new experiences. After an initial "high" in being sooo
happy to have made that move, I knew I could expect another phase. Another part of " coming home".

In this lifetime, I'm born as a minister's daughter. How excellent our being works as a director of our life, as I see now, to find that condition to start life with, so that it can function as the shadow that spurs me on to be in trust and shine my light. Yesterday I asked myself "If it's true that the darkness, or shadow, in our lives on planet Earth, is part of God's creation too, I wonder if it's meant to nudge and push us, so that we're at some point ready to hold onto and persevere, shining our light" ​

Dear B.B.Baghor!

I just saw this message from you and as a 'minister's daughter' and despite your continuous admonitions about sharing 'private messages'; this particular 'private message' addresses your self-revelation contained within your message here and so I share it on your thread. It might go some way to illuminate our respective disagreements and also indicate and provide a certain 'food for your soul', should you read this message with your thinking heart and feeling mind and not vice versa.

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[12:48:22 PM - December 10th, 2015] raxnae: so I've been wondering, when someone gets "saved" is that the logos actually calling on them or is it just oabs lol
[12:53:30 PM] ShilohaPlace: To be 'saved' means you have no longer the capacity to 'sin' rax. Now do you KNOW what sin is?
[12:56:26 PM] raxnae: ignorance; fuc11 no wonder I had such a strong paradigm shift in my early teens when I became the philosopher haha; when confronted with the mirror of my own ignorance I had the choice to stay ignorant or throw everything away and reseek the truth
[12:59:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes to be 'saved' simply means to no longer be ignorant about existentialist questions
So of course all are ignorant in many ways, but this is not what 'being in sin' means.
I am ignorant about knitting or painting or many other forms of artistic endeavours, here simply meaning 'without gift or talent'
Many are ignorant about language codes like science or even other languages
'Being in sin' means that you are STUCK in human mindedness, without an ability to SURRENDER to something greater than yourself.
Now this surrender is the greatest of hurdle to the nabsers, as they reject anything 'god-logos' related see, but worship their own 'autonomy'
Now the trick is this.
If the nabser would know the TRUE GOD and TRUE LOGOS as BEING hisher own private 'higher self' then their surrender would come easy.

[1:05:00 PM] raxnae: so they could genuinly be giving themselves over to the Logos, though I think its more likely in the wilderness than in the church house haha

[1:06:29 PM] ShilohaPlace:
(90) Jesus said, "Come unto me, for my yoke is easy and my lordship is mild, and you will find repose for yourselves."
(77) Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the all. From me did the all come forth, and unto me did the all extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."
(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

Now you know what this 'burden of the Lord' is no? The 'Universal Ego' can say this 'without sin', that it is the all and that nothing can enter except through it, see. If the human ego says this it, is megalomania and anthropocentric egoism and in the 'original sin' or ignorance of not knowing what, where and why it is.

[1:07:11 PM] raxnae: Not exactly sure. I know how the church sees it, to spread the gospel and save the lost souls and all that jazz but the true true I am unsure

[1:14:11 PM] ShilohaPlace: The 'spreading of the gospel' is the elimination of sin indeed. But what gospel?
Its the correct translation from the Old Testament into the New Testament into the 'Book of Life' as say the New New Testament in "Revelation'

[1:26:11 PM] raxnae: oh I see makes sense; spreading the Living Gospel of Christ and so that would include my personal cosmology along with everyone elses cosmology

[1:26:48 PM] ShilohaPlace: The Christ within AND without you rax. Your own personal 'Universal Self'. You know who the 'Whale of Jonah' and the 'Lion of Judeah' is dont you? It is the universe you live in dead or alive and so eternally as alive dead and dead alive particular individuality and waved together family in one.
But the human ego is the 'devil' whilst the universal ego is the 'Christ' and of course all cosmologies are like chapters in a bigger all encompassing book or script.

The Wings of Maria and Solomon's Song !



A new day is breaking across the plains of the desert, Maria's golden dawn to greet;
like a lush green meadow, Bathsheba is awaiting the dewdrops, deliciously sweet.
It's Solomon's flowery nectar, growing in a valley of memories forgotten for so long;
where a beautiful song is playing, birthing a new world for our sweet Maria to belong.


Out in the dry desert, a caravan of camels paces steadily towards its vermilion oasis;
a mighty rock, telling its tales of old, when wisdom still was found in hidden places.
Baiame, the serpent's rainbow is arching across a glorious sky, shining in hues azure;
and there's Maria, a flower from the desert with her love to share so gently and demure.


Merlin, the crimson dingo has come to the great meet, with stories of a redrosy sky;
so many desertdwellers to share in adventures, hearing a majestic eagle's eerie cry.
Amidst the gathering is our queen, dancing to the mother's calling, love's own tune;
What a celebration at the edge of nowhere, this wedding betwixt the sun and the moon.


Jonathan, the emu has arrived with a message about Maria from the heavens above;
the dragon's friends are found all about, guided in the peace of the snowwhite dove.
There is Toby, the alabaster unicorn, pacing for Maria's mounting and to elope away;
into a realm of lofty mountains, where the regal eagle's loveplay always holds sway.


Excalibur, the sword of truth has broken forth to swiftly rent the veils holding asunder;
a mighty tempest sweeps across a forlorn land, a world shaken in lightning and thunder.
Maria's dreams of love and sublime desires, all have sprouted upon Pegasusian wings;
from the heights of peaky treetops and of oaken branches, where the nightingale sings.


You pretty pink flamingo, wading by across the shores of longings, bubbling all adrift;
if you'd just fathom the inner essence of your glory, your ecstacy would come so swift.
Upon the wings of Solomon, you shall find the Dragon's daughter's passage to be free;
oh sweet remembrance of the days of old, Maria of Jerusalem has found her lost key.


The name of the Mother's poem is your own; your courting troubadour so fit to see;
a dawning of love's joy in all is splendour, so devoted and wondrously in wait for thee!

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I Am the Darkness of the Purple Dawn and the Light of the Moon Turquoise!



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The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
I Am One in Many and Many in One!
Exe*=1
GODGOD=DOGDOG=DEMONA=DEVIL=LIVED=FINANCE=PRIDE=EARTH=HEART
GODDOG=DOGGOD=JCCJCJJC=52=26+26=13+13+13+13=5+2=7
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• Post n°169

Re: B.B. Baghors small and large works of art

B.B.Baghor on Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:44 am
bobhardee wrote:12/9/2015


Glad to see you back with your "roots" firmly planted.
Next time you feel put down by someone, ask yourself the following question. Just because someone understands math or science at a deeper level than you or I, does that mean that person is smarter than you? The answer is no. Where some people have talents in some areas, they lack in others. Can they process information faster but does that mean they are happier? Nooo. Can they see the beauty in the world the way you see it? No
We all need a 3 D life with real friends. Not just cyber buddies. The level of depth of conversation is deeper here but not humaneness.
We moved to a new community several months back and are now getting established in a church family. It's nice. As a PK I would think you're done that as well
Merry Christmas my cyber buddy
Bob H

Thank you, bobhardee. Not all wanderers are lost, thank goodness It's for my new roots in the UK now, some firm, some not so firm, that I change and make new choices. As you and others may know my view on internet in general, it's true that we need real friends in a 3D life - reality and even enemies that are in the flesh, with which we can possibly communicate and, in any case, sort out issues, while present with body-language, mind and senses awake. Not meaning to know a definite or fixed outcome, for it's my attitude and awareness that will create one. That's only done by going through the experience. I'm not necessarily waiting for a peaceful calm existence, not making waves, for that's not in my nature. I've gone through new experiences lately and my perspective changes.

It's not for myself... and yes, I felt a bit hurt in my heart.. but I could've seen it coming, couldn't I? that I felt shilo's response to my post was "the last drop". It's already for a long time, that I miss communication between members here. Also, talking behind people's back in critical terms without having a proper discussion about the issue with them, isn't welcome to me. It's a "school's out! student-ranting sort of thing" to me. Besides, I see no point, nor value whatsoever, in finding these chatroom-conversations in Thuban posts here. I've shared my opinion before, I don't accept this conduct. Not here and not in real life.

I do respect the choice, of Misty Avaloneans who started this forum, that all are welcome in the Mists here, to find a place and share what they feel is needed, but for myself I have a different view on what a "self-moderating" Forum is, you see? In my point of view, not everyone online means well and intends to create a positive atmosphere in openness and truthfulness. There are people who intend to disturb the peace and who intend to dump their emotional garbage or express their drama in all sorts of forms. We almost can't find (or bring) clarity in that, for it's due to the nature of the virtual world, that it is magnetizing this behavior much.

When this forum is welcoming everybody, assuming that those I just described will find out soon that there's no resonance and feeding grounds here and will decide to leave the place, it is in danger of placing many bins around the place, with the text "Please bin your trash". In other words, to me it's an advertisement. There's no end to dumping trash, for some people. I don't find much inspiration here as it is, so I leave this place. There are some lovely people here, make no mistake. Those of you I feel inspired by, are willing to know who they truly are.

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• Post n°171

Re: B.B. Baghors small and large works of art

B.B.Baghor on Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:14 pm

Thank you, shilo, for that beautiful poem "The Wings of Maria and Solomon's Song".
It may be that you understand me better than I think with my heart



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Picture me at my spinning wheel and on long walks, catching a fresh dog-nose
I will return one day. Blessed be.​

 

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• Post n°98

Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

Pris Today at 5:22 am

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blue roller wrote:Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make blind.

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From the movie, 'Matrix':



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From the movie, 'Paul':









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Fight the cyclops of your own ignorance

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You are The One.



Remember.





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• Post n°99

Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

RedEzra Today at 5:58 am
So I put some context to those bible verses in that utube clip.


If Israel did not observe the Law and did not repent when God sent them prophets but continued to sin after repeated warnings then God would make their crops fail and send enemies to siege their cities so out of hunger there would be cannibalism among them as written in Leviticus 26.

Paul in 1 Timothy 2 does not want women to teach and usurp the authority of men and not so long ago our culture had very defined roles for men and women.

If a wife squeezed the family jewels of a man struggling with her man in Deuteronomy 25 then off with her hand according to the Law.

There were punishments for sexual immorality in Israel and not only sodomy as can be read in Leviticus 20.


God was to be born in Israel to atone for the sins of the world and so God set up rules of living in the land of Israel.
If you are not Israelites then what's it to you ?

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Pris Today at 6:13 am
RedEzra wrote: If you are not Israelites then what's it to you ?

You really must be blind. You completely overlooked my last post.



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Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

shiloh Today at 6:26 am
RedEzra wrote:


So I put some context to those bible verses in that utube clip.


If Israel did not observe the Law and did not repent when God sent them prophets but continued to sin after repeated warnings then God would make their crops fail and send enemies to siege their cities so out of hunger there would be cannibalism among them as written in Leviticus 26.

Paul in 1 Timothy 2 does not want women to teach and usurp the authority of men and not so long ago our culture had very defined roles for men and women.

If a wife squeezed the family jewels of a man struggling with her man in Deuteronomy 25 then off with her hand according to the Law.

There were punishments for sexual immorality in Israel and not only sodomy as can be read in Leviticus 20.


God was to be born in Israel to atone for the sins of the world and so God set up rules of living in the land of Israel.
If you are not Israelites then what's it to you ?

Good you are attempting to expose the true Logos Red Ezra; but your justifications here are themselves rather limited in explanatory and reformative power.
Subsequently, your comments and insights can then easily be used by the 'logos haters' to undermine your noble intent to enlighten their ignorances.

Perhaps you could discern my reference to Paul the ET as being archetypically related to Paul of Tarsus in connection to a 'later' information enhancing revelation.
The perceived sexism in Paul's letters is no such thing, should the (as you pointed out) 'role' of men and women become properly understood in the 'enlightenment' of renewed information.

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Goddess Freedom in Adam and Eve and Paul's apparent Sexism in the NT and the 'Evil ETs' as Archons from John's Apocryphon​

Throughout modern history, here meaning the timespan of the last two thousand years and corresponding to the cultural establishment of the Christian mainstream religion as a social construct; the role of womanhood within this religious paradigm has been clouded in a perceived sexism of male domination and feminine suppression.
In the so called middle ages, womanhood was generally associated with a perceived devilhood itself and resulted in associating any deviation of female independent thought and selfexpression with witchcraft and association with that devil as the adversary of God himself.

During the last two millennia or so countless atrocities and a general subjugation of the feminine so manifested in diverse forms to then result in 'grass root' movements and social reforms, often collectively labeled under the genre of feminism and for a search and a rediscovery of the feminine divinity.
This essay shall reexamine the reasons for this discriminative attitude, say as exemplified in the following scripture and then show the purpose for this perceived sexism to be anything but a temporary guardianship for the everpresent feminine divinity established at the creation itself.

Woman are told not to speak in the churches and are not to fulfil the role of a male priest, as for example in:


1Corinthians.14.33-36:
"For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"


What scripture readers, lawmakers and legislators commonly fail to understand, is that scriptural and ancient texts like the above embed both exoteric-outer and endoteric-esoteric-inner meanings for discernment.
The esoteric decipherment of extroverted text is fundamentally based on symbols and archetypes, which transcend any cultural and moralistic ethical meaning which might be in vogue at the time of the transcription, the translations or the edits of the former.

Then to allow such esoteric discernment, the origin and history of the archetypes and the symbols used becomes necessity for crystallization of the 'deeper' and inner meaning of the texts.
Subsequently, the correct interpretation makes perfect sense; whilst the incorrect translation causes resentment and discord between religious factions with no end in sight.

One might begin with the 'Unspeakable Holy Name' of the creator itself and it is the she-part of the 'Holy name' of (YaH)W(HeY)=(He-Soul)&(She-Soul), which 'by law' must be subject to the creator as the creation.
The He-part creates and the She-part manifests as the created, but for the higher purpose to give birth to the creator as 'her Baby and her creation'.

That is beautifully described in the gnostic mythology, where 'Barbelo' as the 'Wisdom of Sophia' and the 'First Thought' decides to create, without her creator and lover in the 'Perfect One', who had thought her into being.

Wikipedia reference to the 'Apocryphon of John' aka 'The Secret Book of John'; generally considered to be the main text to study and analyse the pre-Christian philosophy collectively labeled as 'Gnosis' or 'Insight' and related to 'Knowledge' and 'Scientia or Science'. Some of the wording in this text is convoluted and representative of the setting at the times. The labels and names of say the archons, can themselves be considered lower order labelings for higher order principals, say as defined in modern scientific nomenclature. The description here is given as an introduction and shall become simplified in the later story of 'Bigmo's Balloon'.

{The Apocryphon, set in the framing device of a revelation delivered by the resurrected Christ to John the son of Zebedee, contains some of the most extensive detailing of classic dualistic Gnostic mythology that has survived; as one of the principal texts of the Nag Hammadi library, it is an essential text of study for anyone interested in Gnosticism. Frederick Wisse, who translated it, asserts that "The Apocryphon of John was still used in the eighth century by the Audians of Mesopotamia" (Wisse p 104).

The Apocryphon of John has become the central text for studying the gnostic tradition of Antiquity. The creation mythology it details has been the object of study of such writers as Carl Jung and Eric Voegelin.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocryphon_of_John
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html}.


Barbelo, when created, had been blessed with the fivefolded image of the Father as the Mother.
So Sophia was androgynous with her lover in Thought, Foreknowledge, Imperishability, Eternal Life and Truth. When the 'Perfect One' had entered her within the tenfolded 'Sephirotic Tree' of the androgyny; Barbelo conceived a 'Lovechild' of pure Light and brought forth the 'Christ'.

The 'Father' or the 'Perfect One' blessed the 'only begotten' with 'Mind', after the 'only begotten' had asked for a companion for hisher 'Loving Light', which constituted its essence. And once the Father had given the 'Mind' the 'Mind' asked for the companionship of the 'Will' who in turn asked for the companionship of the 'Word' now manifest as the 'Logos' or the 'Word of Christ', which hitherto had been spoken in silence. The 'Loving Light' then mingled with the 'Loving Mind' and the 'Loving Will' and the 'Loving Word' to produce four starry realms or principalities as the domain for the 'LoveChild'.

The first Star is Armozel, the 'Fire of Michael' with Grace, Truth and Form expressing the mindfulness of the enlightened will by the word.
The second Star is Oroiel, the 'Earth of Uriel' with Perception, Afterthought and Memory.
The third Star is Daveithai, the 'Air of Gabriel' with Understanding, Love and Idea.
The fourth Star is Eleleth, the 'Water of Raphael' with Perfection, Peace and Thoughtfulness.
Having thus created the 'Kingdom of Christ' in principalities; the first revelation occurred; the first 'Perfect Image of the One Father' appeared as Pigeradamas, the 'Perfect Human One'.
Pigeradamas became the Image of the Father through the medium of the 'Christ'; and the 'Word' of 'Christ' became 'flesh' in Pigeradamas, along with its companions of the 'Will' and the 'Mind'.
And Pigeradamas was appointed to share Michael's principality of the Fire and Pigeradamas' Son Seth became ruler with Uriel's Earth and Pigeradamas' Grandson Enos ruled with Gabriel's Air.
Raphael's Water then became the domicile for the subsequent generations and who had by then forgotten to honour their ancestors because of their loss of the thoughtfulness.

Now Barbelo, the Eternal Mother and lover of the 'Perfect One Father', had been created as Thought by the Forethought of the Father.

And Sophia became the Afterthought, born from the Thought and thought to experience what a Forethought might be and so Sophia, as the Wisdom of the Earth and the material creation, used herhis androgynous power of the doubled fivefolded symmetry of the 'Tree of Life' to give birth to a being just like herhisself.
But without herhis lover, the 'Perfect One', that what Barbelo brought forth was imperfect and not at all like herhisself, as shehe had it planned to be in herhis forethoughtfulness.

The 'illegitimate' Baby was a serpent with the face of a lion and with eyes like flashing lightning.
Barbelo called herhis Baby 'Yaldabaoth Saklas Samael'.
Barbelo became aware of herhis ignorance and tried to hide Yaldabaoth in a bright cloud and on a throne, so that noone in herhis realm of the 'Perfect One' would see, what shehe had done.

But Yaldabaoth had inherited great power from his mother and he was a he, since the she-part from the Father was not given to him in his conception.
And the light of the he-part given to Yaldabaoth by his mother made Yaldabaoth aware of the kingdom created by his older brothersister, the heshe of the 'ChristChild'.
But the missing she-part made him mindless and ignorant in regards to the Forethought of his GrandfatherMother, the 'Perfect One', who had given birth to his Mother through hisher Thought.

And so Yaldabaoth could not understand the being of the Two-in-One and he declared throughout the kingdom, which he created as an image to the kingdom of the Christ:

"I am God and there is no other God besides me!"

And Yaldabaoth used the light of his Mother's power to infiltrate the kingdom of the Christ to pose as the lord of that kingdom.
He superimposed 12 of his own principalities upon the dominions of the four stars; seven he set over the seven heavens of: Athoth, Harmas, Kalila-Oumbri, Yabel, Adonaios-Sabaoth, Cain and Abel; and five he set over the five hells of: Abrisene, Yobel, Armoupiael, Melcheir-Adonein and Belias.
The four stars he named as: Michael/Beelzebub; Uriel/Asmodeus; Gabriel/Belial; Raphael/Abaddon.

Grace became the Goodness of Athoth with the face of a sheep; Perception became the Forethought of Eloaios with the face of a donkey; Understanding became the Divinity of Astaphaios with the face of an hyena; Perfection became the Lordship of Yao with the face of a snake with seven heads; Truth became the Kingdom of Sabaoth with the face of a dragon; Afterthought became the Jealousy of Adonin with the face of an ape and Love became the Understanding of Sabbataios with the face of a flaming fire.

These are the seven heavens of Yaldabaoth superimposed upon the seven cycles of a week: Sunday as Athoth; Monday as Eloaios; Tuesday as Astaphaios; Wednesday as Yao; Thursday as Sabaoth; Friday as Adonin and Saturday as Sabbataios.
But the Understanding of the Star Daveithai is the third heaven of Gemini and the Understanding of Sabbataios is mapped onto the seventh heaven of Love and of Libra for a 'twinned balance in the scales of justice'.

And so the five hells are mapped in the mirror of Love and Understanding to balance the Yaldabaothic definitions in:
1st & 12th heaven of the graceful thought of Aries/Pisces for the 5th hell of the thoughtlessness; 2nd & 11th heaven of the perceptive idea of Taurus/Aquarius for the 4th hell of the mental dullness; 4th & 10th heaven of the perfected memory of Cancer/Capricorn for the 3rd hell of the forgetfulness; 5th & 9th heaven of the truthful form of Leo/Sagittarius for the 2nd hell of noncreativity and the 6th & 8th heaven of the peaceful afterthought of Virgo/Scorpio for the 1st hell of war and conflict.

But when Yaldabaoth sensed the magnificence of the 'Perfect Human' Pigeradamas, created in the Father's Image; he proclaimed: "I am a jealous God and there is no other God besides me!"

This statement by herhis wayward son stirred Barbelo; because if there was no other God, why then would the only God be jealous, jealous of whom? Barbelo's light had diminished, infused with the darkness of herhis noncooperation with the Father. The 'Arrogant One', did not accept any authority besides his mother; he was created thus in the absence of the 'Perfect One'.

So Sophia repented in the shadow of her ignorant creation and remembered herhis lover in the form of the himher of the heshe.
Then the fullness of the Father visited herhim to restore what shehe was lacking, placing Barbelo into the ninth heaven of the 'Perfect Form', just above herhis Son Yaldabaoth, who ruled from the eight' heaven of the first hell of war and conflict, overseeing his seven Yaldabaothic heavens as the usurping Lord of the creation.

And so Sophia Barbelo found herhisself in the 'Wilderness' awaiting deliverance.
Then was heard a voice from the 13th heaven, that is from the Father's domain of the F-space of the Forethought: "Humanity exists and the Child of Humanity in the Son of Man!"

As Yaldabaoth heard that voice, he thought it to come from his Mother, stationed above himself.
The foundations of hell began to shake and quake as the image of the MotherFather in human form appeared in the mirror of the M-space, reflecting the light of the 11th heaven of Barbelo's idea downwards into the lower heavenly dimensions and outwards into the 12th heaven of the thoughtfulness.
Then Yaldabaoth, hungry for his Mother's light and power and overawed in the spectacular display of his Mother's might and authority called his rulers and said:

"Come, let us create a human being after the image of God and with a likeness to ourselves, so that this human image may give us light."

And Yaldabaoth and his powers of hell used the image of the MotherFather in the 11D mirror to create the human being, which he had sensed before, but had never seen in manifestation.
His Goodness created a 'soul of bone'; his Forethought created a 'soul of sinew'; his Divinity created a 'soul of flesh'; his Lordship created a 'soul of marrow'; his Kingdom created a 'soul of blood'; his Jealousy created a 'soul of skin' and his Understanding created a 'soul of eyelid'.
Thereafter 365 angelic qualities mixed the seven heavens and the five hells to manifest Adam, the first human being and after the form of Pigeradamas, the AdamEve of the 13th heaven, but appearing as the image of Yaldabaoth's Mother in the mirror.

But after the Yaldabaothic creators had finished their work, Adam would not move.
Barbelo's idea was to regain herhis power lost through herhis ignorant deed to Yaldabaoth; so shehe asked for the Father's assistance, who sent five stars, one each for every hell to Yaldabaoth for the purpose to advise them upon an action to bring Adam alive.
The messengers said to Yaldabaoth: "Breathe some of your spirit into the face of Adam, and then the body will arise."

Yaldabaoth did so, not knowing that his spirit was the lost power of his Mother.
The Mother's power so transferred from Yaldabaoth into Adam, who moved and became powerful.
And through the image of Pigeradamas; Adam was enlightened as the image of the FatherMother.

At once the Yaldabaothic powers became very jealous; they had planned to use the human as a source of energy, reflecting the Mother's power back to themselves.
Adam could think more clearly in the power of the 12 heavens and the Kingdom of Christ; heshe was evidently more intelligent than hisher creators.
Subsequently, the material creators of Adam banished himher into the first hell of war and conflict.
The peaceful afterthought also resided in the hell of war and conflict however, and the afterthought was hidden as Eve in Adam, without the Yaldabaothic rulers being aware of that fact.

And the Afterthought of Eve became the She-part of the MotherFather, which so in cooperation and support of the He-part, would be able to restore Barbelo into the 13th heaven of the Father.
As Yaldabaoth realised, that some of his own power had transferred to Adam, he used the untrue form of the 2nd hell and the forgetfulness of the 3rd hell to reduce Adam's intellectual understanding.

Adam descended into mortality in the 2nd hell, the elemental energies intermixing the Kingdom of Christ in the Kingdom of Yaldabaoth and the true immortal form of Pigeradamas became corrupted.
Fire, Earth, Air and Water became destructive as well as constructive and Adam became estranged in hisher forgetfulness, regarding hisher origins - this made Afterthought appear to Yaldabaoth.

The Yaldabaothic rulers then placed Adam into the fourth hell of the mental dullness, also called Paradise or the Garden of Eden and used Adam's now mortal form to create an image in the likeness of the afterthought which had appeared as the Mother's She-part.

The Mother's He-part was in Paradise as the 'Tree of Eternal Life' and the Mother's She-part became the 'Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil'.
So to keep Adam and Eve ignorant of their situation; an instruction had to be issued for Eve not to discover her ambassadoraship for Barbelo.
The decree of Yaldabaoth therefore was for the dulled humans not to 'eat' of the fruit from the 'Tree of Knowledge about Good and Evil'.

But the FatherMother helped the MotherFather in herhis wilderness in sending two stars as messengers into the fourth hell of the mental dullness, which is also the Yaldabaothic 2nd heaven.
The Star of the Perception of Taurus joined with the Star of the Idea of Aquarius to balance the dominion of Yaldabaoth's 11th ruler in Melcheir-Adonein and Yaldabaoth's 2nd ruler in Harmas and in Eloaios.
The 3 hells above conjoined their images and the Lordship of Yao as the snake with seven heads, together with the Truth of Sabaoth as the dragon and the Jealousy of Adonin as the ape mingled to create the Serpentine Dragon with the apish face resembling a lion.

Now the balance for this image is the Griffin with an Eagle's Head and Wings and the body of a lion, as symbolised in the Sphinx.
Putting the two mythological images together results in a Lion and a Cockatrice; the latter being a form of a Rooster with a Dragon's tail or a serpent of the basilisk, of the 'evil eye', which causes death by the medusian glance and as the 'soul of the eyelid' in the creation of the 'flaming fire' of Yaldabaoth's seventh ruler of the Understanding in Abel and Sabbataios.

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Now a symbol for the resurrection is the Phoenix-coc11, which is the ascended Eagle of Christ.
And so the Serpent of Yaldabaoth is also the Lion of the Christ and in the form of the Serpent, which moves up and down in a winding motion and not sidewise, like a snake; did the Mother's He-part induce her She-part in Eve not to forget her commission as the MotherFather's Daughter.

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"For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD" in Jeremiah.8.17.

"And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.", it says in Isaiah.11.8.

City seal of Zwolle from 1295 with Saint Michael killing a basilisk as an 'evil eye'​

The basilisk is called "king" because it is reputed to have on its head a mitre- or crown-shaped crest. Stories of the basilisk show that it is not completely distinguished from the cockatrice. The basilisk is alleged to be hatched by a cockerel from the egg of a serpent or toad (the reverse of the cockatrice, which was hatched from a cockerel's "egg" incubated by a serpent or toad). In Medieval Europe, the description of the creature began taking on features from cockerels.

One of the earliest accounts of the basilisk comes from Pliny the Elder's Natural History, written in roughly 79 AD. He describes the catoblepas, a monstrous cow-like creature of which "all who behold its eyes, fall dead upon the spot,"[3] and then goes on to say,
"There is the same power also in the serpent called the basilisk. It is produced in the province of Cyrene, being not more than twelve fingers in length. It has a white spot on the head, strongly resembling a sort of a diadem. When it hisses, all the other serpents fly from it: and it does not advance its body, like the others, by a succession of folds, but moves along upright and erect upon the middle. It destroys all shrubs, not only by its contact, but those even that it has breathed upon; it burns up all the grass too, and breaks the stones, so tremendous is its noxious influence. It was formerly a general belief that if a man on horseback killed one of these animals with a spear, the poison would run up the weapon and kill, not only the rider, but the horse as well. To this dreadful monster the crow of a rooster is fatal, a thing that has been tried with success, for kings have often desired to see its body when killed; so true is it that it has pleased Nature that there should be nothing without its antidote. The animal is thrown into the hole of the basilisk, which is easily known from the soil around it being infected. The weasel destroys the basilisk by its odour, but dies itself in this struggle of nature against its own self."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilisk


The modular duality of the supermembranes has many analogies in science and in mythology.

One famous one is the riddle about the chicken and the egg.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?
If the chicken, then it lays the egg as a hen and if the egg, then the chicken hatches from it.

But it is no paradox in omniscience!

In quantum relativity, one is relative to to other and so it is like the Father can be his own Father, but needs a Mother to give birth to himself and corollarily; the Mother can be her own Mother, but requires a Father to create herself.

So the sperm of the Father is like the DNA, a genetic library, which cannot become an expression from that database without finding an ovum in which it can become a Father like the RNA.

This is the reason behind the mechanics of messengerDNA encoding DNA, which transcribes messengerRNA encoding RNA, which then transcribes Amino Acids to construct the morphology for the bodies from the spermbased genetic library.

So in other words; the sperm can be the sperm as the chicken, but not much else and the ovum can be the ovum as the egg, but not much else - yet bringing the two together creates the potential to become a great many things."

Robert Sceptico: "There is a quaint story in mythology, which tries to reconstruct this omniscience, Logan.

The Rooster's Egg or the Basilisk of the Devil​

"There once was this male old devil, who lost one of his balls, one of his testicles.
The testicular egg fell upon the earth and landed in a swamp, where Maria Basra, the old hagtoad found it and sat upon it to hatch it.
When the time was ripe, a Cockatrice came out of the egg, with a serpent's tail and the head of a rooster.

The Cockatrice, being the offspring of the old devil, and knowing that it had fallen to earth by misadventure, sought for a way to return into the kingdom of its father, but couldn't find one.
So the Cockatrice became very frustrated with its existence and when it had grown bigger, it ate its own adopted mother in the old hagtoad Maria Basra.
But then something strange happened to the body of the Cockatrice; it started to divide into two.
The headpart grew a tail and the tailpart grew a head and the headpart became a hen out of the rooster's head and the tailpart became a rooster out of the serpent's tail.
And so were the first rooster and hen born from the Cockatrician testicle of the old devil and the old hagtoad Maria Basra."


But there is a coded twist to the moral of that fabled story Logan.
An anagram for MARIA BASRA is ABRAM SARAI, the ancestor for the starhuman race in three of the major worldwide religions.
Islam, Judaism and Christianity; all consider Abram and Sarai, later renamed from their human identities as Abraham and Sarah in their starhuman potential, as the beginning in their genealogies, their lineages written in blood.

So the gnostic interpretation of the myth is that half of the creator got lost in its creation and that is symbolised by the testicular egg.
Then the big old creation, which is lost in itself as a female principle, nurtures something new in the form of the old hagtoad hatching the little old creation into a little new creation.

This little new creation is however unable to become a big new creation, because it desires to become the big old creation in whom it already finds itself and so is already part of.
It tries to eat the big old creation to become the same, but in the process it metamorphoses and becomes an ancestor for the big new creation, just as told in the story of Abraham and Sarah in the scroll of the Genesis.

So the creation of Abraham and Sarah in a renaming of the old, is like a prototypical 'heavenly wedding', later manifesting in their descendants of the sondaughters as the bridegrooms and in the daughtersons as the brides in the dragonomies of the 'New Jerusalem' and as coded in the scroll of 'John's Revelation'.

The joining of Abraham and Sarah in Mind and in Body, to become Two, but being One, then brings the lost devil's egg back to god's serpentine sperm in a w(holley) unitary symmetry of a dragonomy."


Logan Antico: "Yes, and everyone alive today carries the genetic inheritance of this 'starseed'; we should know as initiates into the ancient mysteries of Mesopotamia, the socalled 'cradle for this civilisation."


Robert Sceptico: "Indeed, this obsession with their bloodlines, which some people experience has its origins in the seeding of the starhuman race in the House of Azurguya, and as coded in diluted fashion in the Genesis scroll and the story of Abram of Ur, marrying his halfsister Sarai of Terah's patriarchy.

But you studied that encoding some time ago, perhaps you can use your number-letter code to shed some light on the relevance of the old Mesopotamian beginnings."


And so Eve did, what Yaldabaoth didn't want her to do and in her rediscovered wisdom about the knowledge and the remembrance about the 'Good and the Evil', she told Adam about it and both realised that they were 'naked singularities' with no other beings like them yet in existence.

When Yaldabaoth realised, that the humans had rejected him and his laws; he threw them both into the fifth hell of the thoughtlessness, balanced however in the 1st and 12th heaven of Grace and Thoughtfulness.
But the 'Tree of Life', the He-part of the Mother reflecting in the She-part of the Father; both of them became hidden and forgotten in the memories of Adam and Eve and their descendants.
And since that time, the FatherMother would be thought of as a Father only and the MotherFather would be considered cursed and wicked and evil and unable to think for herself.

Yaldabaoth then cursed the Earth, out of which he had created Adam and Eve and he cursed all the creatures which were similarly created in the blueprints of the cosmogenetic sexual chromosomes of XX and XY, being a derivative from the XXXX abstract prototype.
In particular, he cursed the similitude of the serpent above all the cattle of the Ox of Taurus, as the Mother's 'sacred Bull' from the 2nd heaven, in causing the manifestation of the material 'Snake' not to move forwards in a serpentlike fashion, but to slither along the dusty ground.

So the divine commandment was for Eve to assume the role of the She-part for the MotherFather and to retrieve the MotherFather's 'lost spirit' in the intersection of the 1st heaven of both Yaldabaoth in Athoth and Athoth as the 'untrue shepherd' for the 'lost sheep' with the Grace of the 'true shepherd' and the fifth hell of the thoughtlessness; but also infused with the highest of the heavens in the 12th of the thoughtfulness, bordering on the Forethought of the 13th domain of the FatherMother.

In her role as the 'vessel' for the MotherFather's Afterthought; Eve's messianic mission was to be the supportive agent for Adam's commission to become the ambassador or steward for the Father.
Because Barbelo's lack of foresight was responsible for the creation of the disharmony; the divine command was for Eve to subjugate her independent thoughtfulness to that of Adam until Barbelo could reassume herhis rightful place next to the FatherMother.

This then is the penetrating sexism in the discrimination of womanhood throughout the scriptures in cultures around the globe.

Any woman, who would or could redefine herself as a WomanMan would automatically free Barbelo in herhis ambassadoraship.
And any such WomanMan would be free to engage in any discourse whatsoever, provided shehe could and would acknowledge herhis divine relationship with the FatherMother of himher and as herhis 'Perfect Image in One'.
So any female priest or bishop, proclaiming herhis duty as the he-part of herhisself, would fulfil the divine decree and ordinances.

Yaldabaoth, after having covered Adam and Eve in the darkness of the fifth hell; became aware of Eve's devotion to her husband and her diligence to become an effective medium for Sophia's afterthought, and he wanted to avoid the reproduction of this human couple at all costs.
Yaldabaoth hence 'raped' Eve and she conceived two sons in Elohim-Cain and Yahweh-Abel, before Adam's seed could multiply the divine image of the Father.

Elohim-Cain has the face of a Bear and has dominion over the Earth and the Water; Yahweh-Abel has the face of a Cat and has dominion over the Fire and the Air.
Elohim-Cain was a 'tiller of the ground' and Yahweh-Abel was a 'keeper of sheep'.
When Cain's offering was rejected, but Abel's offering was accepted; the Y-chromosome of Yaldabaoth divided against itself in the slaying of Abel by Cain.
Cain became 'cursed' in the shadow of Elohim; whilst Abel assumed the 'innocent' and 'holy' role of Yahweh as the God of the Hebrews, known as Jehovah, the 'God of Jealousy'.

So one must carefully differentiate between the true 'God of the Hebrews' in YaHWHeY, which is the 'God of Moses' in Exodus.3.14 as Y=I and am=ah and That=W and am=he and I=Y and the untrue JeHoVaH.

YAHWHEY=95=IAMTHATIAM=IAMTHATAMI; but JEHOVAH=69, which is 96=95+1 backwards, the One being the 'only begotten' of the Christ from the FatherMother=MotherFather and DRAGON=59 mirrors in 95.
And in true 'copycat' fashion then JEHOVAH+1=70=YAHWEH - which is the 'True God' MINUS the Y-chromosome of Abel and the reason for the 'ineffability' of the name of the 'God' in 70.

Having thus usurped the 'Godhood for the Hebrews'; Yaldabaoth presumed victory and Adam sired his first true son in Seth and as had already been defined in the Kingdom of Christ in AdamEve's 'perfect image' Pigeradamas.
Cain's 'curse' then was lifted in his 7th generation, sired in Lamech, imaging the heavenly order on earth in the seventh heaven of Love and Justice balanced in the Understanding of Sabbataios.

The apparent sexism in the New Testament is further illustrated in the excerpts from Ephesians.5 and 1Corinthians.14.


Ephesians.5.20-33:
²⁰Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;Â
²¹Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
²²Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
²³For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
²⁴Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
²⁵Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
²⁶That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
²⁷That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
²⁸So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
²⁹For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
³⁰For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
³¹For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
³²This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.3
³³Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

1Corinthians.14.10-40:
¹⁰There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.
¹¹Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
¹²Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
¹³Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
¹⁴For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
¹⁵What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also
¹⁶Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
¹⁷For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
¹⁸I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
¹⁹Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
²⁰Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
²¹In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
²²Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
²³If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
²⁴But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
²⁵And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
²⁶How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
²⁷If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
²⁸But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
²⁹Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
³⁰If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
³¹For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
³²And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
³³For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
³⁴Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
³⁵And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
³⁶What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
³⁷If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
³⁸But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
³⁹Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
⁴⁰Let all things be done decently and in order.



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