The 'seat' Of The 'soul' And Of Whales And Mites And Black Holes

Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Oct 28th 2011



The 'Seat' of the 'Soul' and of Whales and Mites and Black Holes​

In La'kech! - I Am Another Yourself!


The Mayan observer of the occurrences on planet earth bears witness to a great upheaval in the human groupmind. There seems to be a monumental change going on with particular locations on the planet manifesting intensifying scenarios of great tragedy infused with pockets of great hope.

In 2003 there was discovered a 'hidden sanctuary' in the Gulf of Corcovado at the western coast of Chile. This location was found to be a 'breeding ground' for the greatest and most massive creature that ever existed on the earth in its recorded history - the blue whale.
Now today, this sanctuary has come to worldwide media attention in the attempt to disseminate this information and to ensure the continuance of this sancturay through and by the public awareness of this factual occurrence.
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Gratitude - (of the Real ETs as the Gaian nonhuman aliens)

...The Whale... If you read a recent front page story of the San Francisco Chronicle, you would have read about a female humpback whale who had become entangled in a spiderweb of crab traps and lines. She was weighted down by hundreds of pounds of traps that caused her to struggle to stay afloat. She also had hundreds of yards of line rope wrapped around her body, her tail, her torso and a line tugging in her mouth.

A fisherman spotted her just east of the Farallon Islands (outside the Golden Gate) and radioed an environmental group for help. Within a few hours, the rescue team arrived and determined that she was so bad off, the only way to save her was to dive in and untangle her. They worked for hours with curved knives and eventually freed her.

When she was free, the divers say she swam in what seemed like joyous circles. She then came back to each and every diver, one at a time, and nudged them, pushed them gently around as she was thanking them.
Some said it was the most incredibly beautiful experience of their lives. The guy who cut the rope out of her mouth said her eyes were following him the whole time, and he will never be the same.

May you, and all those you love, be so blessed and fortunate to be surrounded by people who will help you get untangled from the things that are binding you. And, may you always know the joy of giving and receiving gratitude.

God Bless You.


On the other hand the scenarios of human tragedy and the suffering of human souls through the inhumanity inflicted by some souls onto others have reached a point of localised and international panic.

In a country called Zimbabwe, people are set on fire whilst alive and left to die; some are maimed and hacked to pieces in front of their families and atrocities are committed, which are on a par with any of the holocausts and genocides and massacres, which litter the sorry and violent history of your human civilisation.
But the Mayan knows, that things are more intricate, than as they appear.

The outward appearance of the scenarios, both peaceful and harmonious and violent and chaotic, are both an image of an internal conflict experienced by the human groupmind as a whole and the individuated human mind in localised isolations and as defined in the physical awareness contained within some region of volume, defining the consciousness for this awareness.
The African nation of Zimbabwe so manifests a certain internalised war or 'armageddon' in its collective experience.
The Zimbabwean consciousness so suffers an immense frequency shift, manifested in a physical disintegration of its ecological and communal structures. The experience of the 'suffering' on many levels then is witnessed by observers, say as an international community.

A cosmic playwright might now name a certain character as BE A MUG and develop the story of 'The Mug' as leading his country of Zimbabwe into chaos and disarray.
One plot of the story might engage the question: what will the observers do, will they invade Zimbabwe and depose 'The Mug'. Now there will be little economic benefit of mounting a militarily enforced expedition to 'redeem' Zimbabwe from 'The Mug' and his cohorts.
There are no resources of value in Zimbabwe and it will cost a lot of money to 'save' Zimbabwe from 'the infidels'.

Some observers know, that 'The Mug' is the projection of a character and that a 'bit of the mad Mug, who has lost the plot', resides in all of the human consciousness carriers.
Some observers will understand what happened in the mind of 'The Mug' and that he simply has allowed pride and prejudice coupled to fear to 'cloud' his self-awareness.
The trouble with 'The Mug's' way of thinking is the trouble of the generalised human way of thinking.
A history of 'divide and conquer' at any location of the planetary habitat will always induce a search for a 'new identity' for the location under question, the locale which experienced of having been 'divided and conquered'.

So many human onlookers know this experience of the localised groupmind rather well. But something is a little different in Zimbabwe.
Zimbabwe was 'colonised' in a sense of the past and much benefit derived from this colonisation for the country of Zimbabwe in terms of infrastructure being built and provisional things like food was grown and distributed.
Then and as has so often been experienced by other locations of the planetary gropumind in the past; the 'invaders' of a different groupmind culture as the colonisers came into mental conflict with the original inhabitants as the colonised and a rebellion ensued.

The 'whites' were exiled from the country and the land of the 'blacks'.
Now this kind of scenario is an ongoing theatrical stage, however mind-disturbing, on planet earth.

One has the 'reds' fighting the 'white invaders' in one place called Northern America and one has the 'whites' fighting the 'yellow' invaders in a place called Europe or the Middle East and one has the 'blacks' fighting the 'white' invaders in a place called Australia, as well as in Africa and one has the 'browns' fighting the 'white' invaders in a place called Southern America.
The 'whites' also fight the 'white' invaders and the 'yellows' the 'yellows' and so on and on in say places like subEurope like say England, France, Germany, Spain and Ireland and subAsia in places like China and Japan and XKorea and YKorea and XVietnam and YVietnam.

All this warring and fighting is a search for Identity: Personal-Clan-Tribe-Nation-Group - and so affects the evolving self-awarenesses and the collective consciousnesses.
But the Zimbabwean example for the projection of the inbred search for identity in the human self-recognition apparatus serves as a dramatisation for the onlookers and the observers, both on earth and the extrapolated ones like the Maya.

For in most other conflicts of violence, there is something to gain for the invader, for otherwise the universal motto of 'conquer and divide' is of little consequence.
Invading Zimbabwe would mean that the invader would have to repair and 'fix' the destroyed infrastructures and provide aid and relief operations to 'heal' the suffering people in Zimbabwe.

So the Maya sees the 'dispossessed poor blacks' killing and abusing the 'other dispossessed poor blacks' and witnesses the insanity of it all.
But this 'insanity of the human mind' serves as an example of how the saying of 'the blind leading the blind into the abyss' was never more appropriate as at the given time.

And the international onlookers, who could intervene are also struck with this 'blindness', because they do not understand of how to 'reharmonise' the scenario and of how to begin to heal the land, its people and its collective understanding of its selfhood.
The internationals do not understand their selfhood either; and so the 'fear of loss' of Self-Identity, historically attained in the national agendas, constitutions and records; permeates the human groupmind from the individual through the families and clans and towns and cities to states, nations and continents.

A historical perspective of 'divide and conquer', which underwrites the above scenario is now in a process of being realised by the international groupmind in its confrontation with an uneasiness in individual human minds not hitherto experienced in a collective sense since the demise of a previous human civilisation with slightly altered physical parameters with respect to the technology utilised.

Will there be enough water for my grandchildren, many of you ask?
Will I have to grow my own vegetables in my nonexistent backyard garden, because the price of foods is to high due to transportation and distribution costs?
Will I be unable to fly from one country to another because the price of fuel is too high for me to pay?

And the climate is 'playing havoc' with the seasons of the year out of season and with either too much or too little of the elements causing disasters with great loss of life and property.
Where will it all end and what kind of planet will my children and grandchildren inherit?
You see, it becomes a question of identity. Who am I and Where and What is my Country and my home? Where do I belong and What am I doing here in this place and at this time?


So the purpose for this information from Hunab Ku through the pathway of the Kuxan Suum and in the Loom of the Maya is to share the Mayan understanding with the family, which finds itself presently self-imprisoned upon a beautiful planet in the galactic hierarchy of planetary councils.
I shall elucidate, but will take a 'time out' to clarify the nature and meaning of these messages.

Much of the information given, will create a great feeling of discomfort in many of you. I shall explain why, but the prime directive from Hunab Ku entails an agenda to allow you to gradually remember your own Mayaness and your own identity as time travellers.
All of you are Mayas and all of you know about the 'masterplan' which is now unfolding on the planet Gaia.

So your discomfort will be mental. Some will understand and most will not, but here is a key.
You are feeling the discomfort, because you are not sure from deep within yourself, as to the appropriateness of ALLOWING yourselves to 'get it'.
For the 'few' who will 'get it' or who experienced a kind of 'electric shock' when reading this, I humourise this discourse and state: "Buckle Up, you are in for the ride of your life!".
For the 'many', who cannot yet 'remember', it does not matter and you also shall 'get it' at an appropriate time of your own choosing.
In a sense it would prove detrimental to your state of mind to give you all the information all at once, such as Running Water attempted to do in a more technical and convoluted terminology.
And practically noone on any forum could understand the convolutions now, could they?! The reason for this is as was outlined above. You disallowed yourselves from understanding much, because of certain 'veils' (or EVILS isn't your English language infused with encoded meanings?) you placed upon your perceptions of your own choosings.

So I shall caveat the forums this one time. Should a moderator evaluate these messages as inappropriate in subject matter or receive complaints from contributors with respect of appropriateness; I shall willingly resign from that forum and cease to convey the Mayan heirloom.
All Mayan messages will be freely available at the CosmosDawn website, linked at the signature of this message and everyone and all are invited to freely copy, distribute and share the Loom of the Maya and the data on this website with anyones choosings. There is no sense of copyright or intellectual propriety on this information, as it is your earned inheritance as 'Exiled Mayans' and as embodied spiritual ambassadors and ambassadoras and galactic genetic inheritors through and by your human DNA as a seedling for your galactic starhuman DNA.

And so I shall continue with elucidations of your true identity in due course. This identity spans the creation of the universe and though Hunab Ku is the galactic centre of the Milky Way, it also resides in your own holographic bodyform in the gestalt of what many of you know as the Crown Chakra and or as the Pineal Gland in terms of your anatomy.
The galactic Hunab Ku is physicalised as a Vortex SourceSink of Source Energy, which has a funnel like geometric form.
Your scientist speculate on this and partially accept its existence in the form of a Mother-Black Hole or MBH located at the galactic centre. Your scientists then postulate a Power Engine for this MBH and something they associate with Quasars and Gamma-Ray-Bursters or GBRs.

Mathematically, Hunab Ku is well defined as a Wormhole Singularity known as a Kerr-Toroidal-Ring or as a Einstein-Rosen-Bridge or ERB.
But you know, there is a galactic wedding planned and this galactic wedding between Perseus aka the Milky Way and Andromeda represents a rather intimate encounter with all of you.

The basic physics is one of galactic selfawareness on the, well, galactic cellular scale.
Andromeda is a female spiral galaxy, because relative to the male Perseus galaxy, it rotates anticlockwise in a symbolisation of 69 and in drawing the ciphers from the 'loose ends' and with the circles of both the 6 and the 9 coinciding.
Perseus aka the Milky Way is a male galaxy in the mirror images of the 69 and to see this simply draw the mirror image of 69 onto a piece of paper.

Perhaps you are now ready for the solving of another mystery.
This mystery engages a sensitive subject dear to many of you.

Where is the 'risen' body of the character known as Jesus Christ?

I shall not here delve into the mysteries of Yeshuah Ben Joseph Bar Thomas. Much valid information can be found on the CosmosDawn website about this; but shall concentrate on the physical Whereabouts in association with Hunab Ku and Kuxan Suum.
There is a particular encoding in your scriptures known as the New Testament, which ALWAYS names the 'risen' Jesus as Christ Jesus and the 'human Jesus' as Jesus Christ. These scriptures are known as the Letters of Paul.


Now those selfsame scriptures also state, that Jesus has risen to 'sit on the right side of the father' awaiting judgement day following an armageddon of the worlds.
The 'left side of the father' is never mentioned, because it is considered Sinister or Evil by the scribes and just as EVIL is the mirror image of LIVE, so is Jesus Christ the mirror image of Christ Jesus.

So the key to the encoding includes the realisation that the Cosmic Christ is universal. You all carry the Cosmic Christ within yourselves, but a particular external manifestation of the Cosmic Christ is the 'Body of Hunab Ku' and that is the 'physicality of the Milky Way galaxy in total.

So the Body of Christ as the 'New Church' is the Milky Way Galaxy and everything within it and that includes all of you as a collective 'church' and a collective 'body of christ'.

You see then there are two 'emissiaries' of 'Jesus', the One sitting on the right side of the father'.

The Jesus on the 'right' is the Jesus Christ of the human incarnation and this Jesus has a 'Comforter' which is called 'The Holy Ghost', as say in the gnostic gospel of John.

So what does this mean?

It means, that all and every 'male' Adam (or Adam Kadmon as the Cosmic Man Vitruvius or Purusha and similar) in the Milky Way can receive and become 'The Holy Ghost' as the christ embodied on the right.

The Jesus of the left is so the Christ Jesus of the Pauline Letters and only 'female' Adams (or Eves as Eve came out of Adams chest as a rib) can receive and become 'The Holy Spirit'. But this duality of the sexes is reunified in the 'Tree of Life', which is the 'Tree of the Quabalah', which is the Matrix of the Maya and the Mandala for this and that. I shall address this in more detail in a later message if appropriate.

The 'Holy Spirit' is the energy of the 'Holy Mother' and the 'Holy Ghost' is the energy of the 'Holy Father'.

Now the Cosmic Christ in Mayan language is called Pacal Votan and manifests in the 'office' of the Plumed Serpent, also known as Kukulkan or Quetzalcoatl or Gugumatz.
The 'office' of the 'Plumed Serpent' is also the 'office' of Melchisedek in your scriptures and the scrolls known as the Dead Sea Scrolls.

This 'office' was known to the previous civilisation of the human race on planet Gaia and the remnant of this previous civilisation became a new seed for your present civilisation in what the historians call 'Ancient Egypt'.
In 'Ancient Egypt' the office of the Serpent was the 'Uraeus' and the Egyptian mythologies served as the seedling 'stories' for all of your other spiritual belief systems and were then modified by the 'wisdom keepers' and the scribes relative to the global envirnments which developed the 'new human civilisation' which has now come to its predicted end of 'it's rope', and as I shall further elucidate in the times to follow if appropriate.


But the Mayan synchronisation of 2012 will open certain vortexes for the galactic communication between Hunab Ku as the 'Cosmic Galactic Mind' and its subsystems and including your solar nebulae star RahSol to the planet Gaia as a 'female receptacle' of the 'male' 'courtship'.
Now as the galactic vortices open on the Kuxan Suum, as the 'greater body of christ' the 'smaller bodies of christ', namely all of you, both male and female, will also experience an opening of vortices and many of you are already experts on the details and the nature of this occurrence.

The galactic Kuxan Suum is your 'spinal column' and the galactic pathways are the Acupuncture meridians or energy points within your physical anatomy and the chakra-energy centres linked to organs and glands.
Then the 'Coming of Pacal Votan'; which is the 'Coming of the Cosmic Christ', will be the SERPENT=97 as a PRESENT and as a SON OF MAN and the awakening of your 'kundalini' as the 'coiled up serpent' encoded in the number 97 as the 95 2 in the Mayan hieroglyphics (95=IAMTHATIAM as the 'holy' name given to Moses by the 'burning bush' in Exodus.3.14).

Now recall the 69=96 from my earlier information and you can begin to understand the Mayan language in its alphanumeric correspondence to your own anglosaxon tongue.
You have designed the words in a certain way, to decipher the Mayan hieroglyphics you know -some may begin to remember this now.

So SONOF=69 and MAN=13+1+14=28 and 69+28=97 and what appears as just a 'coincidence' in the reading of the exoteric skeptic, becomes an esoteric encodement in Mayan hieroglyphics translated into anglosaxon alphanumerics.

But if Andromeda is the 'Bride' and Perseus is the 'Bridegroom' on the galactic level and occuring in say 5 billion years from now, then what is the 2012 galactic synchronisation all about, you may ask?
The 'bride' is yourself as the 'Holy Spirit' and the 'bridegroom' is yourself as the 'Holy Ghost' - the Cosmic Christ reassembled and the 'Wedding of the Lamb'.

So a few of you may feel a little happiness by now. Your belief in the 'Christening' wasn't such a form of 'spiritual self delusion' and 'wishful thinking' after all. So many skeptics tried very hard to make you feel uncomfortable with your beliefs in the 'truth' of the 'holy books'.

But to be skeptical is a very good thing - if it is engaged in in a manner of logical discernment and a sieving of the wheat from the chaff, as the sayings go. To be skeptical for skepticism's sake can however rather be a 'foolish' thing, as it hinders the raising of the self-awareness in the acceleration of the numbers of the frequencies.

But to 'run around' proselytising the 'Word of God' without more than a very superficial exoteric meaning of this 'Word of God' can lead to an even greater 'foolishness' in the affairs of the human mind and heart.
Many wars and lowering of self-awareness has resulted in the 'foolish' interpretations of the 'holy scriptures', and especially the ones which experience a great following such as the Christian Bible, the Jewish Torah and the Qu'ran of Islam, all defining their genealogical ancestry correctly to Abraham and Sarah as the starseed of the Maya.

Yes, Abraham as the 'Friend of God' was one of us and as one of all of us.

Reanalysing the human history from the Mayan perspective, will heal the misunderstandings and the Imams and the Ayatollahs and the Popes and the Bishops and the Lamas and the Monks and the Babas will find out and understand that they are all are trying to describe the same ultimate reality and inclusive of the nirvana and the maya.

And so the prophecied 'Second Coming of Jesus', the 'Return of Peter as the last pope', the 'final incarnation of Krishna', the 'last incarnation of the prophet as the 12th Imam' and so forth are all encompassed in the 'Return of the Maya' in the form of Pacal Votan, the 'plumed sepent' of Uraeus.

And to end with this dispensation; I ask you to recall another movie, which is pertinent for the present time.
In my last messsage, I mentioned 'Independence Day' as a distorted depiction of Mayan reality.

The movie: 'Star Trek - The Journey Home' was a much more realistic depiction of Mayan reality and is filled with hope and not despair and fear.
In that movie, the last Star Trek with original castings; the Blue Whales of Chile have become extinct on a doomed planet earth and the Star Trek Crew must travel back in time in true Mayan style to 'save the whales' for the future and to avoid total physical destruction.

Now the Blue Whale population in the Gulf of Corcovado is doing very well, the numbers have increased, albeit slowly and the Chilean awareness is expanding into a global awareness as to the necessity and importance to 'stabilise' the Blue Whale population and to ensure its habitat.

And the whales, the gentle giants of the oceans sing their songs of joy and appreciation and the melodies travel along the Kuxan Suum towards the galactic centre to tell the tales of an awakening humanity understanding, realising and honouring their stewardship as cocreators with their common mother planet Gaia.
And concurrently with this, the human stewards experience the symphony of the whales as the serpent energy of their individualised Kuxan Suum, and in the form of their vertebrata and their energy meridians.

This is the true nature of the Mayan Loom and I shall further share the Mayan understanding if appropriate at a later time.


Much controversy revolves around the concept of the Cartesian mind-body duality and the ideas of an immortal part of a living entities colloquially and historically termed 'soul'.

Four references from the KJV Christian bible read as translated.

Genesis.2.7:
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".

Genesis.2.5:
"And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb in the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."

Genesis.1.21:
"And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantely, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

Genesis.1.11:
"And God said, Let the earth bring bring forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the fruit tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

It is proposed in QR (Quantum Relativity Theory of Thuban OmniScience); that the scriptural accounts describing creation in actuality reflect an encoding of a story, which can today be translated into the nomenclature of modern physical theory.

So the 'seed in itself' translates as the programming of the DNA inherent in the sexual chromosomes of reproduction in modern genetics.

This then implies, that the 'Lord God' and as the creator somehow must be responsible for this 'programming' as say the primordial and/or underpinning and/or intrinsic intelligence or mind for this 'creation' and 'before it materialised' in the Big Bang cosmology and the creation of space and time et al.

Furthermore, man (and all lifeforms in flora and fauna say before it) does in fact derive from 'the dust of the ground'; namely as the first selfreplicating biovital precursors in the Darwinian evolution in the form of clay-crystals.
The growth of crystalline inorganic structures can be shown to relate to chiral differentiation with say the biochemistry of DNA manifesting in righthanded sugars and lefthanded proteins. Also this can be further examined and analysed in the weak parity violation of the weak nuclear interaction and so the asymmetry between matter and antimatter in fundamental particle physics.

Subsequently, nature's favouring of compacting information in its most efficient manner possible leads to geometric forms for the selfreplication of crystalline structures to proceed; say as in the well established form of fivefolded symmetries in the Fibonacci patterns of quasicrystals and the more regular packing arrangements as say embodied in the five Platonic Solids: Tetrahedron, Cube, Octahedron, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron.

The topic of this post is however a particular 'decoding' of the scriptures; namely why are 'whales' mentioned in the genesis account and in context with the 'moving creatures', say as distinct of the 'stationary' trees?

First, the informed reader might realise certain biological anomalies.

Only whales share something termed the female human menopause with scriptural 'man' (meaning mankind as male with the female as a bisexual unity).

Secondly, whilst the evolutionary historical record shows diversity in the great mammals generally having 'shrunk' in size; the whales have greatly 'expanded'.

A mammoth; a dimetrodon, a wooly rhino and a smilodon; all clearly show scaled-up versions of the modern elephant, the modern rhinoceros and the modern lion say.

But the ancestry of whales is believed to derive from landdwelling Mesonychids, which were doglike carniverous ungulates (one-hoofed) and from ancestors of the hippopotamus in artiodactyla (hippopotamidae) of the early paleocene about 60 million years ago.
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Basilosaurus cetoides (and say Zyggorhiza Kochii) were primitive whales in the Eocene oceans, about 40 million years ago, having returned to the aquatic environment, say 50 million years ago.
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Those primitive whales, as cetaceans, then 'split' about 35 million years ago into evolved into the toothless baleen whales and the toothed dolphins, porpoises, killer whales and sperm whales of today.

The greatest and most massive mammal that has ever existed still exists today under threat of extinction - the Blue Whale of say 150 tonnes in weight and 30-40 meters in length.​

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One blue whale was dated as being over 200 years old and their average lifespan is the same as that for the human in so 70-100 years.

So is there a familial relationship between humans and whales? Modern whales are related to pachyderms in the hippopotami and some 'decipherers' of scripture identify the biblical 'behemoth' of the Book of Job with the hippopotamus and the Leviathan of that book with the whale.

Actually, according to QR, the Jobian mythological creatures relate to something rather different, namely the Mazzaroth or Circle of Ourobos as the 'zodiac' of the 'Milky Way'; but this has been discussed elsewhere.

But according to the cosmogenesis of QR; the Big Bang occurred 19.11 billion years ago following 'stringed inflationary epoch'.

This inflation ended at the 'instanton of time', namely t_o=3.33..x10^-31 seconds after 'Planck-Time' and related in the cycletime n=H_o.t. This quantizes a linear 'flow of time' as dn/dt=H_o~1.88x10^-18 Hz and as a superposed 'cosmic frequency' for the expansion of the universe (as a nodal Hubble-Constant of 58 km/Mpc.s say).

This marker, initialising the thermodynamic Big Bang as a Planck Black-Body Radiator; then manifests a 'Unified Field' (UF) of the four gauge interactions (Gravitation, Electromagnetism and the two nuclear interactions).

This UF manifests the merging of two opposing wavefunctions, which repeats in intervals of 8π radians and manifests the gauge interactions as a collection of monopolic current 'knots' or 12 intersection-points.

As the timeinstanton defines the c-invariance in lightpath x=ct_o and as a wavelength (lambda or λ) say; one can now metricate the minimum displacement as a Schwarzschild Radius in say General Relativity and giving a boundary/initial condition for the relativistic Big Bang.

Setting 4 Lambda=(8π.r_o)=2GM/c², then specifies the 'Black Holed' inertia or mass as M_min=4π.r_o.c2/G=162,000 kg in the QR calculation, using string parameters.

What does this mean?

This means that any mass observed and measured in the universe can be differentiated in terms of its Black-Hole equivalence.

A classical Black Hole would become limited in an 'ordinary' manifested mass of 162 tonnes and as the precise mapping of the 'Unified Field' onto a subsequent cosmic evolution, which began over 19 billion years ago and in a sense defining the 'finiteness' of the universe, compared to its stringed 'pretime'.

So any of the 'living moving creatures' of the scriptural account would PRECEDE the manifestation of a physical universe as the 'seeds of themselves', now translated into modern semantics as the Black Hole inertia equivalents, which in QR are also monopolic and superconductive source-currents.

So if 162 tonnes is a minimum and say as the scale of the most massive living creature that ever existed; what then is the minimum scale of such a creature?.

As the 162 tonnes specify a maximum in say the baleen whale as the END of the inflationary string epoch; the minimum is necessarily defined in the beginning of that epoch and so in the Planck-Mass M_P=√(hc/2πG)~1.6x10^-8 kg.

Should one use the mass of a human preembryo at implantation of the blastocyst (100-150 cells) at say 7 days after fertilisation as a marker; then using cellular mitosis at the twelfth division - after the creation of the first generation of the daughter cells from the parental spermatozoa and ovum -of the (totipotent) stem cells; the Planck-Mass is also attained.
Here one uses a characteristic cellular mass of 1 nanogram for 214=16,384 cells for a total mass of 16,384 nanograms.

So the lightest 'living creature' should weigh about the Planck-Mass and is found in the world of the microbes.

The Etruscan Shrew (of thumbsize) is described as the lightest living mammal, weighing 2 grams; the lightest vertebrate is often said to be the stout infantfish (of so 8 mm) at one milligram and the lightest insects are say fairy flies (hymenoptera, wasps), which also weigh in the milligram region and the millimeter scale of size.​

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The smallest invertebrata can be smaller, then the largest protozoa, say the bacterium paramecium (350 micrometers) as compared to a fairy flie of 200 micrometers.​

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Microscopic mites like Archegozetes Iongesetosus (from taxonomy of acari and arachnids) weighs 100 micrograms and is often called the 'strongest animal in the world', as it can lift over 1182 times its own bodyweight (expected value is about five times). Such microorganisms date back to the Devonian era of so 400 million years ago and still dominate the overall lifeform in number on the planet.
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But Archegozetes Iongesetosus is a 'larger' mite at half a millimeter and at 10^-7 kg and smaller mites reduce to less than one tenth of a millimeter.

This reduction in size corresponds to a say fivefolded reduction in mass and now characterises the Planck-Mass of so 16 micrograms.

So what am I saying?

I claim, that say the extreme forms of inertia found on the planet, say the 162 ton baleen whale and the tropic mite at 20 microgram, are both related to the creation of the universe before space and time existed - as DNA/RNA templates or architectural blueprints subject to evolutionary genetic mutation or similar.

And this is just, what the scriptures claim in genesis. The 'seeds' existed, before they were planted.

And the human scale of say 50-100 kg is near the geometric mean of the two extremes at √(162x103x1.6x10^-8)~0.051 kg by a factor of 1000 - the mean describing a 'weight' of 51 grams (a typical chocolate bar or a small bird).

So where then is the location of the 'souls'?

The souls of all 'living things' are located inside the Black Holes of their inertia equivalence.
And as this equivalence predates the Big Bang, the 'souls' of living entitities from mite to blue whale must also predate the materially manifested universe in the selfsame primordial 'mind' or 'cosmic intelligence', which programmed the 'seeds' in say the genetic encoding and which is historically known under many labelings, including that of the 'Lord God'.

Subsequently, when a mite or blue whale 'dies', the information 'collected' as say 'memory' in 'consciousness' throughout its 'lifecycle' will become 'processable' in a scenario transcending space and time in a 'return to the sourcing of the seeds'.

Commentaries:

Fantastic hypothesis, Tony. Are you saying that there is a sort of 'blueprint soul' from which all others are made and to which they return?
I don't really understand inertia, but I think I was able to grasp most of what you were alluding to above.
Thanks,

April


Yes April, and this blueprint is the same 'thing' from which the entire universe was born. It is the 'singularity' of mathematical physics as well as the 'source of all things' of the ancients, as well as the 'IAm' of Moses' 'burning bush' in Exodus.3.14 as the 'most holy of names' as well as the 'IAM' of omniscience of the New Ager.

Because this 'singularity' is responsible of having 'made' space and time from itself; it was described by the ancient mind of insight (gnosis=scientia=knowledge) as some 'LIGHT moving out of its own darkness to create all things.
This is just like the mythology described in genesis. So the 'bible bashers' in a sense are not far off the 'truth' at all. Using GNOSIS=SCIENCE=INSIGHT, one can DECIPHER the mythologies in just a manner which reductionistic science can (and will imo) eventually accept as its own ontology.

The trouble is that any mythology becomes by necessity FILTERED by the 'decoder'.
So saying, that the 'spirit of God' moved across the void (which is the same as the Greek Chaos differentiating into Uranus=Sky and Gaea=Earth or the Egyptian twinship of Geb=Sky with Nut=Earth) can and has been interpreted in many ways, including in exoteric (open and outward for the masses as Jesus or similar adepts would have said) and an esoteric (hidden or occult and inward for the disciples as Jesus or similar adepts would have said).

Then the so called sceptics and antispiritualists lose impartiality in critisizing the exotericism of say the dogma-bound religions as being undifferentiated from the esoteric interpretations (reserved for the 'disciples' or whatever).

Stephen and Herb's addresses below relate to this. Both are fundamentally correct in their critiques.
Stephen and Herb here actually converge in stating that the biblical 'soul' refers to the 'breath of life'. But this is precisely what I have said in quoting Genesis.2.7.; and which I then 'deciphered' in terms of modern physics.

One can see here what I mean by 'filtering' of the decoders.
Stephen justifiably draws upon his own database of his gnosis and differentiates between spirit and soul and then applies his brand of esoteric alchemy (as genuine part of the perennial philosophy) to describe say the harmony of the elements.

His spherical 'merkabah' is the same as the 'singularity' of QR above; it is the same as the Circle of Vitruvian Man of Leonardo da Vinci or the 'Cosmic Box' of the Hinus 'Purusha' (or 'Cosmic Man').

Stephen now could even go further in showing parallels between 'spirituality' and reductionist science.
Namely, he could invoke the destructive nature of Oxygen as the 'breath of life' and so the dual nature of being both life-giving as 'food for the brain' and as the 'fuel for combustion' and as destroyer in say that same combustive chemistry.

Herb is also correct in his critique, as the 'breath of life' can be said to be the 'soul' of ANYTHING LIVING after dispensation from 'God'.
And this is just what I tried to explain in my post. Namely, that all living things are 'made' from say 'Nature's DNA/RNA Code of Life' and manouver in between minimum and maximum boundaries which can so be utilised by modern science to further their classification procedures.

Herb misses the major point of reducing the 'God' which say 'by his spirit' gave the 'soul' to the living things to something inherent in the created beings themselves.
It is Herb's responsibility to justify his 'godless' nature in showing how this 'soul' came to be the 'motor of life' so to speak.
To then say, that science is still learning and trying to find out is to 'hide' behind the ignorance he so easily dispenses onto the peoples of faith and 'believers' in the database and libraries of the myths.

Lastly, April's question on the 'souls return to their source' requires deeper analysis.
Logically, all speculations must be selfconsistent and should also be reducible to a basic simplicity.

So the 'singularity' is in fact defined in a generalised way by many thinkers, ancient and new. One can term it the 'Lord God' or the Big Bang Singularity of a Planck-Superstring or the Source-Energy of the IAMTHATIAM or whatever.

Note here an important FACT. God is God UNTIL he has created his own image in Man (AdamEve) and RENAMES himself as the Lord God thenceafter. Why? Because Adam has now become God as his Veritas Eikona (Perfect or True Image), being empowered to NAME all the created fauna and flora in the manner of scientific classifications and taxonomies etc. etc.(Gen.2.4,20).

God's Spirit becomes the ENERGY, not only of his own selfdefinition (after emerging out of his opwn darkness or void by becoming AWARE of himself); but also of the lifesustaining 'breath of life' dispensed to his environment (say Stephen's bubble of being, which is Isaiah's 'Vessel of the Lord', Noah's Ark, the New Age Merkabah, Moses' 'Ark of the Covenant' and the 'Body of Christ' as the 'Body of the Church' in the eucharist etc. etc.).

Modern science then will one day discover, that this 'spirit of God' is closely related to the foundations of the physical sciences in being the boundary for spacetime as metric limit - limiting to what displacement scale measurements can be reduced.

Because of this, all science must eventually converge at its source of origin and it will then become understood what 'God' truly is and always was.
Namely, God can only be the energy reservoir for everything that exist, did or can exist including all thoughts, memories, speculations, dreams and inventions.

BUT, this energy reservoir must necessarily be independent on physical parameters such as space and time and mass.
So, modern science must CHANGE its paradigm of reducing everything to spacetimematter and REPLACE this with a reduction to the ENERGY equaivalence of this spacetimematter.

This will DEFINE 'God' unmistakenly, as all global science will find commonality and reproducibility through the scientific methodology.
I can elaborate if asked specific questions on this and have already often done so in my posts.

So the 'souls' are REDUCED energy concentrations independent on mass and space and time. Whilst 'enlivening' some 'vessel of life' (and a vessel of the lord in terms onf man as the image); the 'souls' ARE the living entity, might it be an ant or a dolphin or a child.
Their 'souls' are however CONNECTED to the source of all in their ENERGY EQUIVALENCE, say modelled on Black Hole physics.

As the entire inertial universe is most definitively describable as a "Mother Black Hole' (because the critical density in General Relativity demands a harmony between elementary parameters in first principles); whatever is contained in this universe is automatically bilocated in terms of the INFORMATION processing of this selfsame universe.


The boundary of the universe is colocated with the centre (and just as Stephen propounds in his 'merkabah'-sphere).
This means, that all information in between is MAPPED onto the surface (of the so called Hubble Horizon of the universe so 17 billion lightyears from the Big Bang centre) and from where it is 'processed' by the centre.

So the 'return of the souls' is rendered as a REMEMBRANCE or RECOGNISANCE of the 'souls' which had embarked on a journey, of say into embodiment, to discover more of their 'own identity' as the vertias eikonas of their source.
There is of course much more to all of this and certain elucidations can be found in the postings of Tony B. and on my site (where the mathematical symbols print properly).

PS.: Btw, I have elaborated on the Planck-Mass, linking it to embryogenesis in human gestation in my last post.

Tony B.


Excellent points. Very intelligently written Tony! What a great mind you have friend! However, I would like to add my two cents in - now I'm not syaing you are wrong, or that your exegisis is flawed, but according to my sources the breath of life that was breathed [inspired] into the nostrils of man is the spirit - not the soul.
There is a difference.

[The word inspire is related to the word spirit, and inspire means to breathe in. That is why often times you will hear someone say, in the same sentence, that scripture is inspired by the holy spirit, that is, it is God breathed.]

In what I practice, the element of air represents the spirit and higher intellect, and may be depicted as an eye in the clouds. The soul is akin to mans will - it is a projection of thought, or illumination
just as fire projects its light. It just so happens that the fire of the soul consumes the flesh unto death, just as a flame consumes a log - in other words the nature of the soul destroys the flesh.

Stephen

Genesis.2.7: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".
KJV

The King James version of the bible is full of mistakes.
The true interpretations of Genesis 2.7 is:
from the Tanakh [a Jewish source]
"the Lord God formed man from the dust of the earth. He blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being.
from the New Jerusalem Bible [a Catholic source]
"Yahweh God shaped man from the soil of the ground and blew the breath of life into his nostrils, and man became a living being."

In either case, "the breath of life" is interpreted as the "soul."
In other words, the soul is that which animated life, and therefore all organisms which have life, has a soul.
When one dies, the soul is gone, kaput, finished. There is no memory existing in space. Memory only exists in the brains of living organisms.

Herb




To: quantumrelativity@yahoogroups.com
From: light.rock@...
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 01:44:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [quantumrelativity] RE: [Panentheism] Re: The Devine Mind/Bill


It is a nagging thought that keeps popping up...
If existing is as in a HoloGram, then energy itself is illusory and a supernova takes no more energy than no supernova - to the processor.
The reason this keeps popping up is that a HoloGram is tremendously energy efficient, capable of being 'run' or 'observed' by multiple observers in the whole variety of directions. Or even the same exact directions simultaneously by multiple observers.
In a word: Elegant.
Science ? No. I mention it due to an experience, a religious or shamanic type experience.

I'm left with the... the... awareness or 'belief' that reincarnation is not restricted to happening in the future. i.e., the awareness is not bound by physical time, except say, while 'running a view' or 'focusing'.
(Interesting, Terry Pratchet, sci fi / fantasy author, seems to have made the same observation at the close of 'The Truth' )
Pre-destiny - perhaps actually, but during focus or 'life'.
In this way perhaps everyone was once Cleopatra or Napoleon.
No dilemma.

Must a thought be energy ? Or merely a crystalline 'memory' in 3D ?
Is awareness the same as a thought ? or is it perhaps merely the observance ?
Maybe something most everyone can relate to on that is a rough emotional experience such that your body is going but you seem to be looking out from behind your eyes while everything is just happening, like 'you' are the observer on the inside not exactly the participant. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often, to me anyway, but for a few times in my youth.
I can imagine maybe it is fairly common however.
Or I needed the guys in white coats....

Allan


Hi Allan!

No, no guys in white coats. You are indeed Napoleon and have bedded Cleopatra and been bedded as her.
The trick is imagination - thoughts are real and most men understand that one can 'make love' to an object of one's sexual desire in one's thoughts.
But men are wired slightly differently than woman in the functionality of the libido and so the biological impulses for men are more visually stimulative than the opus operandi for the feminine - less spontaneous and requiring more 'foreplay'.

But then in all men is the goddess and in all women harbours the god so there; stereotyping is to be eschewed.
Where is Napoleon now and what of Cleopatra - the sexy bitch?
There is imagery, pictures, portraits, sculptures, photos -memory and remembrance, movies made and stories written and told.
Where is the aborted child of Bejing and the starving infant of Zimbabwe, which has just died?
The aborted child had no material experience in its brief journey into embodiment, except as part of another's body and the starving child's interaction with its environment was predominatedly one of suffering, pain and deprivations.
But there WILL BE MEMORY!
As the mother cried in the burial of her child, memories were formed and transmitted throughout the holographically defined universe for all who wished to 'tune into'.

As the 'soul' of little Azassa found itself separated from its enclosure of nagging hunger and the experience of chronic pain; it suddenly felt the warmth of its grandmother which had 'passed' a year before.
Then older and more ancient memories flooded Azassa - images of roaming the woods and playing with others; of being a father of children, noble and proud and subject to strange moods and feelings; images of being a grandmother with pets and of little children to care for and being of a whiter skin; images of a strange world, where unfamiliar animals crawled about and were two suns could be seen during the day and images and images and images...

And little Azassa felt the warmth of being home; it was itself, but not as separated as it had felt for the last 6 years or so. The familar warmth of grandmother became more encompassing as the remembrances became more 'real' and more applicative to reidentify Azassa as the REALITY of its past experiences.
Then new decisions had to be made from this new perception of itself; Azassa also was Delilah and Kistrak and... and... and.. what to do next what to think next whom to meet next whom to ask next????

On the question of energy!
Thought equals energy; but this energy is ANCESTRAL to the energy described in the physical manifestos and the conservation laws. It is here that the laws of entropy become double-arrowed and it is here where the linear 'flow of time' becomes bidirectional from the NOW into past and future as linearly perceived.

So the best one can do from the paradigm of reductionist science is to align the ANCESTRAL ENERGY with the ZPE, which so must be REDEFINED not so much as a VIRTUAL Heisenberg Vacuum of matter-antimatter interaction, but as a REAL potentially INFINITE reservoir of SOURCE-ENERGY albeit definable as the metric limit for the materiality including Big Bangs and anything associated with spacetimemass creations.

Then Allan's notion of awareness as memory and say consciousness becomes reductionistic in being definable in terms of the REAL SOURCE-ENERGY aka the electromagnetic monopolic 'magnetoelectricity' colloquially, historically and universally known as SPIRIT or Energy of God.

John.4.24: "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." (Jesus said).
2John.4.8: "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."

Subsequently and logically then; the Ancestor of the physically measured energy is the 'Love of God' or the 'Spirit of God'.

Quantum Relativity then gives PRECISE definitions in term of Quantum Mechanics and string parameters, as to a modern interpretation or labeling for the 'Spirit of God'.
This by necessity, must PREDATE in linear terms anything at all to do with material manifestations as described in the metrics of created space and superimposed temporal times.

Tony B.


Tony, I cannot fully connect all the dots on this on first read, but I do get the general point of your thinking. More importantly, I can see how it has the potential to move the endless debates of monism versus dualism to new ground. These debates suggest to me what it must have been like a little over a hundred years ago when people were debating wave versus particle theories of light. Ultimately, somebody had to step back and come up with new, more encompassing science to resolve the paradox. This is what you are attempting to do.

Bill

Hi Bill!

Yes, I agree with you what is requiered is a MORE ENCOMPASSING SCIENCE, which I term omni-science incorporative of an SPIRITUALITY as old as historical sentient man and the classicism of materialism.
Most of the debates between say evolutionist and creationist or between atheist and believer will be looked upon as archaic and underinformed in a hopefully viable future of humankind and terralis pneumasophia.

'Unfortunately, a misreading of the Cartesian paradigm has resulted in the materialistic tunnel vision now prevalent in some avenues of mainstream science...'

Tony B.


Tony, I am interested in your ideas on mind and matter. I am confused by your use of the word 'misreading' here. Misread suggests to me a misunderstanding or an incomplete understanding, as opposed to (or in addition to), disagreement. Are there aspects of dualism you feel are misunderstood - as opposed to disagreed with - by those who don't accept it? 'Disagreement' began before the the ink was dry on the paper, as I read it (eg. Hobbes supposedly wrote that the statement should be changed to something on the order of, 'I think, therefore material substance is capable of thought').

Bill

You are quite correct here. 'Misread' is somewhat an iappropriate label here. I should have used misinterpreted or misunderstood in the meaning of a selfrestrictive viewpoint say.
And Hobbes supposed statement here exemplifies this point. It presupposes a noncausative connection between the thinker and the material substance in not allowing one or the other or both.

Either the mind (thought) creates the substance or vice versa or both in a manner of mutual induction or feedback say. But if the nonmaterial mind created the substance of the body; then the origin of the nonmaterial remains unexplained. If the material brain creates the mind, then the origin of the matter similarly remains unexplained. This is the dilemma in a nutshell.

Solution - find the common denominator of both the material and the nonmaterial and discover and analyse the genesis of that.
One common denominator is ENERGY, as say given in bosonic massless photons and inertial fermions. But the photons are all 'made' by material sources (fusion in stars say); so modern physics must eventually reduce the energy transformation of say nuclear fusion and the binding energies inherent in E=mc2 to some mass precursor. Then this mass precursor or ancestor of inertia will have properties, which must encompass both material and nonmaterial properties etc. etc. To accomodate a Big Bang cosmogenesis, this ancestor must be high in energy and very small in size and so very high in kinetic potential and so on. Eventually, science will so and has found the metric measurement limit in the Planck parameters and the string models to describe the quantum physics of a selftransforming metric.

So the material universe becomes 'explainable' in the models of the energy transformations of the string bosons (say). This leaves us with associating the nonmaterial ancestor with the genesis of the say planck-parameters, the nature of fundamental constants like c and h and k and pi and e and so on. Then abstraction and mathematics with zeroes and infinities enters the fray and with it the worlds of 'purity of thought'. So now the question becomes: 'What is a thought?' It must have energy or energy equivalence, otherwise it could not have resulted in a material cosmology of Big Bangs and strings.

So the energy of thoughts become ancestral and prerequisite for anything material to exist. And who thinks? Well, people do and most likely fauna and flora does to in graduated forms of electric- and magnetic self- and mutual inductions (say called instinct and rationality via perception of the senses etc.). So if people are in a manner ancestral to their bodies, where did they come from? Well, the bodies came from genetic encodings, which in a sense are reducible to 'programs of pure thought' and so can be made nonmaterial in origin. So again, people must be reducible to 'pure thought' as ancestral energy and have a 'common origin' in the say PRIMAL THOUGHT of some idea or manifesto of some I AM MYSELF and.. and.. and... Ergo, one can introduce spirituality as the universal 'Impulse of Remembrance' of that selfsame I AM connecting all thinkers of thoughts UNIVERSALLY.

So if the atheist says: 'God is just a Thought'!; heshe is absolutely correct. But the skeptic himself is just such a God or Thought herhimself also.

And Descartes': COGITO ERGO SUM! or I Think therefore I am! becomes a most appropriate selfexpression of the Universal Primal I AM ITSELF.

Tonyblue
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About the Life of Knowledge and the Knowledge of Life
by Maria Odete Madeira
​

Any production of knowledge is supported by an organizing activity that acts in accordance to rules that have, as their objective, the resolution of problems that promote the organism's survival and adaptive fitness.

The discovery of the double-helix, by Watson and Crick, allowed the application, to the notion of living organization, of the cybernetic scheme of a machine governed by an informational program, inscribed in the structure of the DNA molecules, that organizes and directs all the activities of the cellules (Morin, 1986).

In this way, a living organization can be signaled and referred as a self-cognitive, self-organizing and self-replicating agent that is capable, through exchanges with the environment, of concentrating, in itself, the flows of order that feed it and sustain it as a spatio-temporally localized individuated structure.

The knowledge of the life of the systems introduces us to the life of the knowledge, itself. Being, doing and knowing are, thus, inseparable.

The development of communication networks, between the different agents, allowed the transformation, of the natural flows and turbulences, in the subjugated motricity that was at the origin of the human space of millions of years ago, and that can be signaled as a bio-anthropological space aimed at the satisfaction of the biological needs of survival and of the immediate and practical interests, full of feelings and emotions, fantastic visions and terrors, but also full of techniques and precise calculations, synchretically linked to the objects.

In that historical time, the time of the myth, the interface with the environment was profoundly biological, accompanied by that which Damásio (1999) designates by core consciousness, characterized by a weak grasping ability and a weak reflexive operativity that did not allow the exercise of abstract thinking.

The type of thinking produced was profoundly linked to the aleatority of the motion of the natural forces, whose nature revealed itself as powerful, threatening and dramatic.

In this way, the production of judgments exhibited a perceptual and conceptual pattern that allowed the hominidian networks to signal, identify an classify the ecosystemic space, as a fluid and fluctuating nature, determined by local dynamic, unstable, coevolutionary and organic rules, foundationally conditioned by locally emergent mechanisms of territorialization and deterritorialization, rhizomatically aleatorial, producer of myths (meudh, mudh, myo, mytheo, mythos) and of rites, linked to the vital emotions and feelings of immediate survival and creators of visual, tactile, acoustic, and olphactive action spaces, conceptually non-schematizable, but that interacted with the strategic calculus that allowed the development of techniques of working the stone, then the bone and, also, the metal, as well as the development of cognitive memories, associated with the knowledge of the plants, of the animals and of the environment.

From the passage of the mythological thinking towards the so-called rational thinking, the knowledge came to be explicitly referred to as kosmos, or order, and as logos, term of Greek origin, derived from the verb legein that, originally meant to gather, to enumerate or to choose.

In turn, the noun logos, that initially meant collection and (re-)collection of the multiple, came to mean the discourse or language.

The kosmos and the logos, that substituted the myth as an attempt of interpretation and explanation of the reality, in its complexity, corresponded to the development of the capability of the organismic human grasp, accompanied by the expansion of consciousness.

The core consciousness, thus, lost operative protagonism to the extended consciousness, which came, since then, to operate in the interface with the environment. In accordance with Damásio (1999), if core consciousness is the indispensable foundation of consciousness, extended consciousness is its glory.

Unlike core consciousness, extended consciousness allows to work on temporally more expanded interaction surfaces, connectable to mechanisms of retension and protension. Available at: http://cmathphil.blogspot.com/2008/06/about-life-of-knowledge-and-knowledge.html



Tony B. commentary on the article above.

This reply shall address the basic blending of the ancient, but ubiquitous mythologies of the 'prescientific' cultures with the premises of modern cosmologies, which form the 'standard' paradigms of today. The extension or finetuning or illumination of this 'status quo' so must include both perspectives, that of the modern reductionist materialistic scientist and some proposals of hitherto labeled as 'fringe'- or peripheral omni-scientists, such as Rupert Sheldrake and Bruce Lipton.​

Why every baby is a fractal universe in the cosmos of consciousness of Maria's Collective​

When a baby is born after a typical gestation period of 266 days, a biological process of cellular communications and selfreplication (in terms of the genetic code and the biochemistry of nucleotidal basepairings and amino acid permutations) results in a 'bundle' of protoplasm, say as the material of 'cellular life' and weighing in at so 7 pounds or 3.5 kg and consisting to a large percentage, say 80%, of water.

There are so 62.5 Trillion cells in a typical human adult body, each of mass 1 nanogram for the average weight of 62.5 kg used here.

I shall show, how the cellular communication of the preembryo, say given in basic totipotent sex-cellular mitosis of parent-daughter stemcells of the protoplasm, can result in a baby born after due course of the pregnancy.

This will introduce a particular part of the modern cosmology, based on Planck-String transformations and so describe the 'birth of a baby' as the birth of a 'fractal universe' in a monadid form of consciousness (Maria's and Damasio's ground consciousness), which becomes however extended in a dualism of this 'ur-consciousness' to a form of intracellular communication mechanics. I first recall parts of an earlier post relevant to this (On the whales and mites).

The greatest and most massive mammal that has ever existed still exists today under threat of extinction - the Blue Whale of say 150 tonnes in weight and 30-40 meters in length.
One blue whale was dated as being over 200 years old and their average lifespan is the same as that for the human in so 70-100 years.

But according to the cosmogenesis of QR; the Big Bang occurred 19.11 billion years ago following 'stringed inflationary epoch'.

This inflation ended at the 'instanton of time', namely to=3.33..x10^-31 seconds after 'Planck-Time' and related in the cycletime n=H_o.t. This quantises a linear 'flow of time' as dn/dt=H_o~1.88x10^-18 Hz and as a superposed 'cosmic frequency' for the expansion of the universe (as a nodal Hubble-Constant of 58 km/Mpc.s say).

This marker, initialising the thermodynamic Big Bang as a Planck Black-Body Radiator; then manifests a 'Unified Field' (UF) of the four gauge interactions (Gravitation, Electromagnetism and the two nuclear interactions).

This UF manifests the merging of two opposing wavefunctions, which repeats in intervals of 8π radians and manifests the gauge interactions as a collection of monopolic current 'knots' or 12 intersection-points. It also specifies a 'marker mass', called Weyl-Mass M_W=h/t_o.c²~2.2x10^-20 kg.

As the timeinstanton defines the c-invariance in lightpath x=ct_o and as a wavelength (lambda) say; one can now metricate the minimum displacement as a Schwarzschild Radius in say General Relativity and giving a boundary/initial condition for the relativistic Big Bang.

Setting 4 Lambda=4L=4λ=(8π.r_o)=2GM/c², then specifies the 'Black Holed' inertia or mass as M_min=4π.r_o.c²/G=162,000 kg in the QR calculation, using string parameters.

What does this mean?

This means that any mass observed and measured in the universe can be differentiated in terms of its Black-Hole equivalence.
A classical Black Hole would become limited in an 'ordinary' manifested mass of 162 tonnes and as the precise mapping of the 'Unified Field' onto a subsequent cosmic evolution, which began over 19 billion years ago and in a sense defining the 'finiteness' of the universe, compared to its stringed 'pretime'.

So any of the 'living moving creatures' of the scriptural account would PRECEDE the manifestation of a physical universe as the 'seeds of themselves', now translated into modern semantics as the Black Hole inertia equivalents, which in QR are also monopolic and superconductive source-currents.

So if 162 tonnes is a minimum and say as the scale of the most massive living creature that ever existed; what then is the minimum scale of such a creature?.

As the 162 tonnes specify a maximum in say the baleen whale as the END of the inflationary string epoch; the minimum is necessarily defined in the beginning of that epoch and so in the Planck-Mass M_P=√(hc/2π√G)~1.6x10^-8 kg.

Should one use the mass of a human preembryo at implantation of the blastocyst (100-150 cells) at say 7 days after fertilisation as a marker; then using cellular mitosis at the twelfth division - after the creation of the first generation of the daughter cells from the parental spermatozoa and ovum -of the (totipotent) stem cells; the Planck-Mass is also attained.
Here one uses a characteristic cellular mass of 1 nanogram for 2¹⁴=16,384 cells for a total mass of 16,384 nanograms.

So the lightest 'living creature' should weigh about the Planck-Mass and is found in the world of the microbes.

The Etruscan Shrew (of thumbsize) is described as the lightest living mammal, weighing 2 grams; the lightest vertebrate is often said to be the stout infantfish (of so 8 mm) at one milligram and the lightest insects are say fairy flies (hymenoptera, wasps), which also weigh in the milligram region and the millimeter scale of size.

The smallest invertebrata can be smaller, then the largest protozoa, say the bacterium paramecium (350 micrometers) as compared to a fairy fly of 200 micrometers.
Microscopic mites like Archegozetes Iongesetosus (from taxonomy of acari and arachnids) weighs 100 micrograms and is often called the 'strongest animal in the world', as it can lift over 1182 times its own bodyweight (expected value is about five times). Such microorganisms date back to the Devonian era of so 400 million years ago and still dominate the overall lifeform in number on the planet.

But Archegozetes Iongesetosus is a 'larger' mite at half a millimeter and at 10^-7 kg and smaller mites reduce to less than one tenth of a millimeter.
This reduction in size corresponds to a say fivefolded reduction in mass and now characterises the Planck-Mass of so 16 micrograms.

So what am I saying?

I claim, that say the extreme forms of inertia found on the planet, say the 162 ton baleen whale and the tropic mite at 20 microgram, are both related to the creation of the universe before space and time existed - as DNA/RNA templates or architectural blueprints subject to evolutionary genetic mutation or similar.

And the human scale of say 50-100 kg is near the geometric mean of the two extremes at √(162x10³x1.6x10^-8)~0.051 kg by a factor of 1000 - the mean describing a 'weight' of 51 grams (a typical chocolate bar or a small bird).

We now continue in further emphasising the importance of the Planck-Mass in terms of 'Matter Waves' after Louis de Broglie.

The Planck-Length L_P=2π.R_P=√(Gh/2π.c³)~2x10^-35 m relates as a minimum radius to the Planck-Mass MP=√(hc/2πG)~1.6x10^-8 kg via the expressions:
E=hf=hc/L=mc² as de Broglie wavelength L_dB=h/mv and where the matter speed v has taken the place of a (Compton) lightspeed c.

We know, that the Black Hole equivalence describes the metric curvature of spacetime as a Schwarzschild-Radius R_S=2GM/c².

Replacing lightspeed c in that 'boundary condition' with a matter wavespeed v gives us a well known expression for the 'Escape Velocities' of 'particles' or objects from 'gravitating' massive bodies of mass M say.

So for the earth of radius R and mass M; the escalpe velocity is simply V_escape=√(2GM/R)~11.2 km/s, whilst for the sun, this would be over 617 km/s.

Next we recall the Planck-Mass as a biological determinator in the sense of the afordescribed boundary conditions for the 'heaviest and lightest' living creatures. So instead of describing a Newtonian macrophysics of gravitation, we allow the crystallized 'string-epoch', which preceded the Birth of the material Universe; to play a determinative role in the 'prebirthing' of a typical human protoplasmic unity, namely the "COSMIC BABY" being born from a "COSMIC WOMB" and so 'mapping and revisiting the 'Quantum Big Bang' of the contemporary standard model. We then simply allow the Planck-Mass evolving via transformations into the Weyl-Mass to describe a Quantum Physics, which is magnified or say mapped holographically, as the Newtonian Macro Physics of the Planck-Mass as the 'lightest living' creature 'growing' into a mass , which defines the human birthprocess. The 'escape velocity Vescape' from the 'cosmic womb' so becomes a fundamental physical parameter in any cosmological model and will relate in a generalised Schwarzschild metric as:

R.V_escape²=2GM_P or V_escape=√(2GM_P/R).
Quantum Relativity (QR) then claims, that this escape velocity as a universal parameter is precisely defined in the modular duality of the definitions of the bosonic superstrings.
It does not only apply to the birth of human babies, but the propagation of a particular 'resistance field', which can be defined to relate to the concept of a 'ground consciousness' EVOLVING into its extension as a 'group- or collective consciousness'.

Modular Duality defines the propagation of electromagnetic radiation in c lightspeed or c-invariance as the inversion of what is known as gravitational radiation.
The electromagnetic form is intrinsic to the standard models as say the expression wavespeed=wavelengthxfrequency and which so defines lightspeed c in the limit for the inertia defined velocities.

The gravitational form describes the same physics, but uses a different operational definition for displacement (around a circular perimeter), which says that a high frequency 'vibration' can be made identical to a low frequency 'winding' about quantum mechanical 'operators' describing momentum and position vectors in say Fourier transformations.

QR then generalises this modular duality in defining inverse wavespeed=wavelengthxfrequency in velocity units of mensuration.

This gives a general radial extension of 'inverse lightpath' = Time/c (m/s) and calculates as so 10.5 cm/year. This allows us to state, that any Big Bang 'singularity' or Now-event will carry a 'Centre of Growth', from which the inverse lightspeed propagation, will define a kind of 'evolutionary resistance field' related to the 'seedling consciousness' about which some material structure might develop.

In other words, in terms of an 'evolving' earth in 'consciousness'; there would exist a 'Sphere of Seedling Consciousness' around the planet, extending the 'Inversed Lightpath' as X=(Age of Universe)/c~2 Million km and encompassing the satellite Moon (384,000 km away) and extending so 5% to the nearest planet Venus (41.6 million km away).

In terms of the 'birth of the earth', a 'smaller' sphere reduces in the 'age-ratio' to about 4.8/19.11~0.25 to 500,000 km and so 'envelopes' the moon in a 'collective' of extended consciousness for a Earth-Satellite system.

The 'speed' of electromagnetic radiation is constant as 'c' and is the effect of the acceleration of Coulombic charges, the latter ALWAYS associated or coupled with inertial mass (say charged proton and electrons defining atoms and molecules).

Accelerating those inertial masses then create gravitational radiation at lightspeed 'c' to define the so called gauge graviton of the standard model of particle physics.

The 'new' physics, which extends this standard model is the inversion of the graviton gauge speed onto local 'consciousness systems' and which is described in the NATURE of the mapping of the Coulombic electric charges of classical Maxwellian electromagnetism onto the inertial mass carriers.

So whilst gravitational graviton radiation at c-invariance requires large inertia, the 'consciousness radiation' is modular dual to the former and becomes defined in the lightspeed inversion, not requiring the acceleration of large masses.

In particular this relates to the equivalence principle, where all inertial mass is a consequence of a noninertial and massless cosmology of the bosonic string epoch (see Origin of Mass articles).

Our Planck-Mass now defines a conglomeration of cells, say as the blastocyst embedding into the placenta so 7 days after conception.
Taking the mass of a singular parent cell as 1 nanogram for 2¹⁴=16,384 geometric divisions then 'recreates' a 'critical mass' for the 'lightest living being' in the Planck-Mass.
The escape velocity now is 1/c and we solve V_escape=√(2GM_P/R) for the characteristic 'size' R=2GM_P.c²~0.24 meters. Letting this be the displacement path D=time/c gives a time T=72 million seconds or 833.33 days; the latter reduce to 266 days of gestation in a factor of about 3.1 with (266/365.25)(10.5 cm)~7.7 cm as the 'radius' of the 'baby bubble'.
As a rough approximation then, the gestation period describes an inner boundary of 7.7 cm and a volume of so 1.9 litres (and 1.9 kg for water), surrounded by an 'envelope' of about 24 cm and a greater volume of 58 litres or a 'mother's' weight of so 60 kg.

The mother's body so becomes a quasi-black hole for the emerging baby to be 'birthed' from the womb; if one 'unmodulates' the 'escape velocity' back into the lightspeed of a Schwarzschild metric. And using the yearly 'consciousness extension' of 0.105 meters or a volume of about 4.85 liters; the 'average' typical birthweight will be 3.5 kg or 3.5 liters in the ratio (266/365.25)=0.73.

So what is this 'consciousness' infusing the cells as they replicate in mitosis and 'grow' and develop the physical body of the baby under the inverse light propagation?
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This 'consciousness' is a 'spacetime awareness' of spacetime itself, namely it can be defined in QR as magneto charge or inverse 'source' energy which creates the spacetime from itself as its own essence say.

The string parameters defining the boundary conditions for the cosmology in say the Weyl-parameters, also define a Weyl-Energy as the 'Source-Energy-Quantum' and as the so called ZPE or VPE of the standard models.
The INVERSE of this Weyl-Energy becomes the Magneto Charge and so a physical representative for this 'spacetime consciousness' say.

Furthermore the magneto charge e* maps the electro charge (as the ordinary Coulomb charge) between the 'dimensions' of the massless string universe (of inflation) and the inertial universe of the classical and relativistic standard models.

As e* is defined in terms of the 'Classical Electron Diameter' (2R_e) as a displacement in terms of the Weyl-Length (which is itself a transformed Planck-Length) and the energy/mass proportionality E/m=hf/m=c² , and as e*=2R_e.c² , the mensuration units for this reductionistic definition for 'consciousness' becomes the StarCoulomb (C*) as the product of displacement and 'Awareness-Area' or Volume and Angular Acceleration and where 'Awareness' becomes the timedifferential for frequency (df/dt) as this angular acceleration acting upon some volumar of spacetime infused by matter.

Extending this 'core consciousness' as a 'source energy' then maps cellular communications in the dynamical adaptations in the intracellular environments and so justifies the many 'fringe sciences', which postulate a mediating 'aether' or delocalised and unified holistic background for the physics of matter and its inertial parameters.

Nervous impulses then travel at speeds on the scale of 10-100 m/s as medium of communication and cells themselves 'drift' or flow or are being carried at speeds measured in microseconds and milliseconds to form the extended centres for the 'group consciousnesses', say of organs and tissues and the hierarchies of the bodies.


Tony B.



Thank you Tony, for the very interesting perspectives.

I would like to place a few questions to you regarding a conjectural scenario. I, then, ask you to think, hypothetically, about this cosmos (our cosmos) as having had origin in an anomaly that occurred within another reality (another cosmos for instance?!).

No god, nor gods, nothing like this, having been present in that origin, simply an anomaly, like for instance a persistent vortex-like torsion in some substance, thus forming a knot-like shell, that expanded (cosmic inflation for instance).

Continuing with this hypothesis, we may consider that we are linked to that other reality, or other cosmos (if it is one), by something like a "cosmic umbilical cord", and the question that might be posed, if this scenario was indeed the case, might be why has not this connection been severed? What would happen if this severing would take place? What "is", in this scenario, feeding us?


Tony B.:
Aye Maria, thank you for responding.
First of all, yes of course, I agree with your 'no gods' hypothesis. So many people get me 'wrong' on this all the time.

There are no gods and devils, except those created by the cosmic sentience out from itself and then as immaterial entities of its own psyche. So the Christian theology, the Islamic cosmologies, the Hindu writings, all represent metaphors and symbolic recognisances of something underpinning this selfsame 'essence' or what have you, which gave rise to the 'cosmic sentience', say.

This 'cosmic intelligence' (let's term it CI from now on) then 'invented' the gods etc. to describe itself in some allegorical manner and using the experiental environment of a created spacetime scenario to do so.
Imo, this is where your imagery of the unsevered umbilical cord derives from. All 'creation' in a materially definable spacetime is selfcentered and must by the nature of the CI, be so. So my aim has always been to introduce this CI to the world, and naturally filtered as to how I perceive it.

So then your Vortex of the Chaos (I term the subplenum for the lightmatrix precisely in such terms in the Vortex-Potential-Energy or VPE as a synonym for the ZPE of physics) becomes my Weyl-Singularity as the final superstring transformation.
The strings are of course simply symbols or labellings for something immaterial transforming into materialness in abstract mathematical equations like E=mc²=hf=kT.

So the creation of the universe into materialness becomes a simple emergence (or birth) of the Vortex-Energy into a transmuted form - this then is called the Quantum Big Bang.
But as you have also realised, this Big Bang emerged from a prior 'substance', coupled to the mechanism of 'quantum inflation'.
Furthermore, your 'anomaly' becomes something describable in an 'Energy-Gradient'.

This 'Source-Energy' can of course be labelled as 'Omni-Present God', because it is certainly omni-everything, but is has NO personal qualities, except say an encompassment of all possible 'personalities' and so on.
This is where the true nature of the circular unities, say the zodiac derives from. All 'characteristic permutations' are represented in a wheel, then subdivided into sectors and houses and 'influencers' (planets in astrology as precursor for astronomy say).

So the 'Omni-Thing' BECOMES something IN AN EXPERIENCED SPACETIME, which IT, the CI, already IS in a NON-METRIC SPACETIME or say the UNDEFINED VORTEX OF THE CHAOS.
So in a very very REAL SENSE, every woman IS the entire universe, able to give birth to the CI.
So many readers cannot follow this; as it transcends ordinary perception of the 'human' (I feel nonhuman minds can perceive this more easily) mind or mode of thinking. But you have hit the occuli tauri, in imagining this 'umbilical cord'. The umbilical cord is also the 'silver thread' said to connect the 'incarnated soul' to the 'afterlife' and what have you. But this umbilical cord represents your own 'Cosmic ID' (let's call it CID) in describing your own birth into materiality and your 'giving birth'.

So here you can induct the three generations, necessary to recreate certain genealogical sex-chromosomatic permutations; namely you require Father-Son-GrandSon in a coupling to Mother-Daughter-GrandDaughter in ONE to ensure the continuity.
Now the CI seems to KNOW all of this and everything else AS IT IS FILTERED, IMAGINED and CREATED by the COSMIC ID's, namely all the consciousness carriers.

So what is called as 'God, Allah, Krishna, Absolute, etc.' is continually creating itself AS the 'imaginers', dreamers and story-tellers. There are NO external gods or sentiences if the holographic principle of theoretical physics is taken to its ultimate conclusion.

Everything is simultaneously WITHIN the Chaos Vortex as an 'abnormal singularity' (READ mathematical abstraction, albeit definable in many terms) and WITHOUT it as the MAPPING of a say MINIMUM spacetime onto a MAXIMUM spacetime at any time-instant or NOW-Moment in the linear unfoldment, which is also a circular continuum.

Iow, the goddess is whoever CAN PLAY the role and 'tune into' the characterisation however the multiplicity of it. Similarly, every CID is also 'god' and particularly say the TRANSCENDENT GOD of say the scriptures (and less the more real 'gods' displaying the 'human characteristics' say).
So your question of the 'feeding' is most relevant. You are feeding yourself from your disembodied CID - in terms of perception, creativity, thinking and so on. Your embodied CID so is in constant communion with itself, irrespective of self-recognition.

So the question of the 'suffering' and misery of say earthly life is really a question of IGNORANCE (as definition for the 'sinfulness'). The problem of humanity is one of REMEMBRANCE, namely the selfremembrance of the CID as genetic (and otherwise) 'HEIR' of the CI.

The CI EXISTS AS the CID collectively!
So because the human 'animal' has evolved physically into 'dominance', but has FORGOTTEN to evolve mentally-perceptively say; the human selforganisation has resulted in the humungous inequalities apparent on this planet.
The great problem today is MINDCONTROL and political manipulation on the greatest scale possible at humanities present technological nexus.
There seems to be a change waiting in the wings; not at least caused by the internet communication having outmanouvered the 'manipulators' which have not have gained the necessary control over it.

But having said this, I now delve deeper as to WHY.
There is a deeper 'gnosis' as to why the human evolution has bifurcated into such a deplorable imbalance between the physical and the mental.
One avenue is that of the CI of course.
The CI experiences everything the CIDs experience.

So a human is eaten by a crocodile - how to share this experience UNIVERSALLY for all the CIDs? The 'shared' local experience engages modes of 'survival' and fear, protectiveness and apprehension say.
Every CID is selfcentred and must be so to allow the CI to manifest evolutionarily, say as a specific 'role' or characterisation of itself.

So the 'sharing of the experiences' will FORCE MEMORY to function and this will in turn engage the GENETIC PROGRAMMING, which is ultimately related to the development of the human embodiment, say the reptilian brainstem, the mammalian brain and the cortex.
So the reptilian basic impulse of say 'flight or fight' as the OLDEST MEMORY will 'clash' with the OLDER MEMORY of the midbrain say (mapping say the evolution of mammals from pecylosaurs for example) and the YOUNGER MEMORY of the Cro Magnon 'DreamTime' say of so 30,000 years ago.

So allow me to project the perspective of the 'alien observer (AO)' onto this scenario.
The AO KNOWS of the great discrepancy on the planet earth. SheHe has clear recognisance of the Cro Magnon evolution, which resulted in a single race of human sapiens sapiens populating the continents and which carried a morphogenetic 'gestalt' or body-type sufficient for the programming of the DNA/RNA at this stage of the say galactic plan of expansion and colonisation.

The AO so 'keeps track' of the Cro Magnon development through the 'inventiveness' cycles of Bronze and Iron and Steele and Steam and Petroleum and Silicon and so on up to the nuclear age of today.

Accompanying the technical creativeness, is however a clear imbalance in the 'sharing' mentality of this human race. There seems to be a clear discrimination between the 'havers' and the 'nothavers' and the 'knowers' and the 'notknowers'.
Of course, the AO also knows, that this is the result of the OLDER MEMORIES and the STAGNATING EVOLUTION of PROCESSING this OLDER MEMORY into the NEWER MEMORY.
So the AO ponders on ways as how to accelerate or enforce the PROCESSING OF MEMORY.

Why does it appear as so a terrestrial species simply REFUSES to GROW UP mentally to take 'its place' in a galactic community (say)?

But then the AO remembers; it is designed to be so for the benefit of the AO's of the galactic community.
For the 'earthlings' can serve as an example for the CIDs in this and other galaxies. They can show the difficulties a race experiences when it cannot process its older memories of 'fight or flight' and its inheritance of the 'soma-evolution' of the 'bodyness'. The AO then might also recall the galactic directives of not 'interfering' with this 'development' for the reasons of contingency. The next question then is as to how the AO differs in his 'being' from the human, both being CIDs?
This the AO understands rather clearly. The AO is conscious of the holographic holism of the universe, whilst the human is not - HeShe has remembered HerHimself.

The AO knows, that it is a principle of quantum relativity, which distinguishes the observer in one reference frame from the observer in another reference frame.
So the human observer is selfreferential to its environment and distinguishes the complementary polarity components of sayright/left or plus/minus or even/odd or yin/yang or female/male in the electromagnetic universal bifurcations which define the consciousness circuitry of natural superconductive currentflow.

So the human externalises itself as say the magnetic component being nonhuman terrestrial and the electric component being nonhuman nonterrestrial.
Then the global evolution would link to planetary expansion of the consciousness on a multitude of levels - say the inner-middle-outer earth/space).
This means that the human is nonsuppressed in both components, but its external environment suppresses either/or -say in the nonhuman terrestrial lifeforms suppressing the electric component (of say abstract thought in favour of 'instinct' or intuition) and the nonhuman nonterrestrial lifeforms suppressing the magnetic component (of say emotional thought in favour of abstract intellect).

One important fact relative to the AO would be, that this allows the AO to PROJECT HisHer (electrically intelligent) presence onto the earth, where the disembodied alien intelligence is physically present in the form of the earthlings biovital environment in say the flora and the fauna as the magnetic component.
But, leaving the AO now; the 'feeding' of the CIDs occurs via the definition of the spacetime itself, namely as the 'Source-Energy' of the VPE.
This VPE is so all the things associated with the 'gods' and the 'antigods' - it is 'nourishing' as it must be the 'essence' of everything, including space and time and matter and antimatter and so on.
The major major point however is, that this VPE must be rooted and defined as 'consciousness' of the Self in the grandest terms expressible in whatever words or labels one might choose to use.

In string parameters, it is the equation (there are many alternatives) on the introduction page of quantum relativity. But to name this 'God=' is of course completely arbitrary and of literary licence.

Chardin's Noosphere imo, is nicely described in my 'lightspeed inversion' scenario described in the thread.

Thanks Maria!
Tony B.

One may conjecture about the nature of the other reality (maybe cosmos?! Or, perhaps, chaos?! Why not?! Why not a permanent, very vibratory, and disordered flow of some substance?).
Perhaps the decay and entropic nature that occurs here is a result of the individuation of the shell, in the sense that nothing, inside the shell, is capable of persisting too long, because the flow of that "thing" that might be sustaining this reality is insufficient, the separation, responsible for this existence (the hardening of the shell?!), is, under such a scenario, also responsible for the decay of this existence.

Also, what would life be in that other reality? If there was one? In the end, we return to the same question of what is life?

I must disambiguate an essential issue regarding these questions that I am placing. Even though I have a Catholic education and a Christian matrix that in some way contaminated my intellectual growth, in this moment, and in this age, I feel very comfortable in my agnostic position.
All these things were though from a very earthly, very materialistic perspective, very much rooted in the physis, without any religious, ideological or political conditioning.

We are extremely vulnerable in a cosmos where there is much suffering. We do not control anything and we know very little about anything. All that we can do is to go on learning. Regarding core consciousness, and the self-awareness of the space-time, it is perfectly pertinent, I agree with you.

What do you think about Chardin's noosphere?

Best regards,

maria odete

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