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    admin Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    I told you before, why this. If you use Placidus you do NOT get equal houses, meaning each of the 12 houses is EXACTLY 30 degrees.

    Compare your 7th Sun House for Capricorn:

    Placidus House angles: 8th House = 6° Capricorn to 25° Capricorn and only 19 degrees overall.
    Equal House angles: 8th House = 27°34' Sagittarius to 27°34' Capricorn and a full 30 degrees.

    Unless you use equal houses, the 12 signs have all different degree counts.

    This is why your Capricorn Sun is NOT in the majority of Capricorn as the 8th House; but is just on the boundary to it in the 7th House at 5° 36' degrees.

    There are many astrological systems as how to 'map' the yearly transits of the planets in the ecliptic plane to the time keeping on earth. As the time zones on earth differ in location, say longitude and latitude and as the times of daylight and night time vary greatly with latitude (north and South); some astrologies implement this in a latitude correction not just as regarding the earth's rotation, but also as to the time and place of birth being in regions closer to the poles or the equator.
    The more north you go, the longer the day-night variation and so away from the equator the non equal astro houses diverge from a place near the equator.

    In your case in Canada you are closer to the north pole than the equator and so your placidus-koch astro charts will differ by a number of degrees from an equal house system.
    In the past equal houses were more used than today, but Thuban uses equal houses for the equality of degrees 12x30°=360° and so ignores the latitude correction for the North-South axis. Thuban of course uses the chronos of the latitude correction like the other astro systems.
     
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    Not really, as the Ascendant in a true 360 degree circle must be 90 degrees from the Midheaven MC and then 90 degrees from the Descendant and then 90 degrees from the Nadir.

    You can't have it both ways here. Either use true geometry defined equal houses based on the sidereal time defining the MC or use some other form which adds some distortion of this circle relative to the motion of the ecliptic and the earth's rotation.

    You can use any astrological system you wish to use. I use the unique geometrically fixed Thuban system I have not seen elsewhere.
    So please don't argue with me about your preferences, live and use them to your desires.

    As you can see, I am posting rather pertinent astrological data about the present time and the '5 seasons' on the temple thread focusing on the August 26th Full Pisces moon.
    All those conventional astrological analyses are perfectly in harmony with Thuban astroanalysis.
    If you like I can also post these messages on your thread here. Please let me know if you want me to do this.

    TonyB
     
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    Using your birth data you can calculate your sidereal time and so your MC as seen here.

    astrosusanmc.
    As you can check for yourself here using this data; this gives you 27°34' degrees Aquarius and from this single data is your Thuban chart constructed.

    This is because the 360 degrees of the circle end at the Aries-Pisces transit.
    So going around the circle from the March equinox at 0╖ Aries to 360° Pisces defines the MC.

    In your case it is 327° 34.5' and so in Aquarius, which goes from 300° to 330°.

    Any other MC then shows that some other modified system for calculating the MC is used.
     
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    Susan, you can use any chart you like. The ones I made simply are Thuban perfect circle 12x30=360 degree characteristic.

    As far as I can make out, the charts you use are charts I made many years ago and without Dark Moon Lilith.
    Here is the most recent one, with Dark Moon Lilith included.
    Your astrodienst one is pretty close at the MC as you can see at 25°25' is close to Thuban's 27°34'.

    And as all those charts made by competent astrologers are valid, relative to the house system used; you can use astrodienst to superpose your task companion's chart from there.

    Thuban charts are by no means as comprehensive as you would like, as I simply construct the technical data, even ignoring sextiles generally in a focus on conjunctions, oppositions, trines and squares.
    Also those aspects are only depicted in shorthand astromath which most cannot read easily. :



    astrosusan.
    astro_w2gw_05_susan_hp_68670_4442 (2).
     
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    This is a correct ephemeris
    efrain-1954.

    I have constructed what his Thuban chart would look like below. I will try to finish it when I have time.

    astroefrainp.

    Try to do the Placidus of astrodienst again, using the data on the Thuban chart.
    It should give you one very similar to the one above; not like the bs one you made above.

    (will do this, thank you)
     
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    Here is my PRESENT from the SERPENT of the Logos for you Susan Serafina!

    astrosuzys.
     
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    admin Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    astrosuzys.
     
  8. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    yup...the archetype of the story of Athena & Archene ?
    turned into a cosmic spider (which, ironically is a good thing)
    and, also The Third, initaition - cosmic weaver
    The First, initiation is that of: cosmic healer eagle (Male)
    and; the Second, initiation is that of: cosmic eXchanger condor (Female)
    The Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Seventh initiations
    are as follows:

    Harmonizer of Indigenous Culture
    with Modern Precepts of Pythagorean Perennial Philosophy


    in The Mode of Cosmic Healer in The Ancient Order of The Star Eagle Clan
    in The Mode of The eXchanger in The Ancient Order of The Star Condor Clan
    in The Mode of Cosmic Weaver in The Ancient Order of The Star Spider Clan
    in The Mode of Dragon in The Ancient Order of The Star Dragon - Star Serpent Clan
    in The Mode of Dragon Master in The Ancient Order of The Star Dragon - Star Serpent Clan
    in The Mode of Dragon Rider in The Ancient Order of The Star Dragon -Star Serpent Clan
    NOW in The Mode of Scribe, Thunderbird, and, Unicorn ;)
     
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    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    something here too i see - perhaps related to my own chart,
    NOT sure -my chart is on this thread
    along with some comments, i hope to expand later,
    i have some stuff i wrote back in 2009/11
    - that lead into 2010/3 and 2011 (20/11) a very important year

    persia, royal star of the lion ;)
     
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    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    need to check this out tomorrow
    old work
    parans
    bernadette ?
    sky ?
    zandex ?
     

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