Operation Scrambleweb

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  1. shiloh za-rah

    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Mar 22nd

    Hegelin is on the right track! And so is she in the clip below!

    [4:55:02 AM] Sirius 17:
    [4:55:17 AM] Sirius 17: this is an interesting gal
    [4:55:41 AM] Sirius 17: the fact she is discussing this stuff on CNN is actually a big deal and refreshing
    [4:56:13 AM] Shiloh: Yes I love my whores!
    [4:59:19 AM] Sirius 17: although she looks a bit young to me
    [4:59:27 AM] Sirius 17: but still, it is a great conversation
    [4:59:35 AM] Shiloh: Yes she is fresh
    [5:00:05 AM] Shiloh: You can see the interviewer is looking at her 'that way'
    [5:00:16 AM] Shiloh: He woudn't mind a taste of her.
    [5:00:54 AM] Sirius 17: lol old Peirs
    [5:01:01 AM] Sirius 17: yeah he would; did you watch the video i linked in here, the ted talk where the brain scientist has the stroke
    [5:02:13 AM] Sirius 17: her experience was much like mine
    [5:02:41 AM] Sirius 17: well the JCCJ and when i described to you feeling like i was part of everything
    [5:03:14 AM] Sirius 17: anyhow she gave an awsome talk
    [5:04:14 AM] Shiloh: I saw this at some time yes

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  2. shiloh za-rah

    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth


    An Esoteric Perspective from a Cosmic Level on a Personally Individualistic World in Turmoil

    Caveat: Ripley's motto: Believe it or not!

    -Long enduring partnerships are falling apart.
    -Career choices are made and changed overnight.
    -Long dormant health issues surface in persistency, no longer enabled for postponements.
    -Intimate relationships and familial associations are breaking under the guidance of individual independence issues.
    -Dreams of the past and future begin to 'haunt' the dreamers sensitive to their inner selves.

    What is happening? Like mushrooms after a healthy dose of 48 hour rain; personal issues are erupting like volcanoes on a global scale?

    The adepts in Plato's Cave are familiar with the reason for the 'new fertility'.​


    Welcome in the Dragon's Den of Plato's Cave of Shadows, also being Noah's Ark!


    The Metamorphosis of Narcissus by Salvador Dali, 1937

    The personal harvest has arrived and will be followed by a global harvest.

    The harvester is the one who has planted the seeds to grow into the harvestable material and this harvester is yourself awakening from your deep slumber of the implanted forgetfulness.

    The one who is stirring is your own remembrance - "there is more to my life, than this 9 to 5 routine and this world of the consumerism and the search for self in gratification and social integration".

    On November 30, 2009 a decisive nexus point in the time warp loop from December 8th, 2004 to April 1st, 2012 began in the commencement of 70 weeks of personalised turmoil leading into 'global' turmoil from March 28th, 2011. Those 70 weeks or 490 days are however a cyclically embedded timeframe within 1260 days or 3½ 'Great years' each of which spans 12 months of 30 days and 30 nights, the latter showing a most basic division of 24 hours into a duet of 12 hours each. There then follows a 'cosmic gestation' or 'World Pregnancy' following a 3½ day 'preparatory halfweek of 3x12=36 hours of day and 36 hours of night and as 84=1260/15 hours definitive for a cyclic timeframe of 3½ 'basic days', countable as both in 1260 'long days' or in 84 'short days'.

    And was not the 'size' of Noah's Flood 15 'cubits' high and covering all of the 'old world'? And was the 'prophet' of the endtimes not asked to 'hire' the 'cosmic harlot' for 15 pieces of silver, then doubled in the 'ransom money' of the 'field of blood of the old covenant'?

    Genesis.7.17-22: (KJV)
    17And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
    18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
    19And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
    20Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
    21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
    22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
    23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
    24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

    1Then said the LORD unto me, Go yet, love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress, according to the love of the LORD toward the children of Israel, who look to other gods, and love flagons of wine.
    2So I bought her to me for fifteen pieces of silver, and for an homer of barley, and an half homer of barley:
    3And I said unto her, Thou shalt abide for me many days; thou shalt not play the harlot, and thou shalt not be for another man: so will I also be for thee.
    4For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
    5Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

    Luke 1:24-25
    24And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,
    25Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.

    Revelation 9:5-16
    5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
    66 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
    7And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
    8And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
    9And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
    10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
    11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
    12One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
    13And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
    14Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
    15And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
    16And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

    Daniel 7:10
    A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

    Revelation 5:11
    And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

    Revelation 18:4-7
    4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
    5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
    6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
    7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

    Revelation 6:5-6
    5And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
    6And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

    Gospel of Thomas (Lambdin)
    (105) Jesus said, "He who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."

    30 Pieces of Silver = 30 days = 1 month for the 'Field of Blood'
    {Acts.1.16-20 & Matthew.27.1-10} & {Revelation.14.20 & Revelation.21.16-17}

    15 Pieces of Silver = 15 days and 1 Homer = 100 days for 1½ Homer = 150 days = 5x30 days = 5 months
    15 Cubits = 15 Days in 2x12,000 furlongs/1,600 furlongs = 15 for 2x144,000=288,000=2x10,000x10,000=200 Million



    This global electromagnetic resonance phenomenon is named after physicist Winfried Otto Schumann who predicted it mathematically in 1952. Schumann resonances occur because the space between the surface of the Earth and the conductive ionosphere acts as a closed waveguide. The limited dimensions of the Earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the ELF band. The cavity is naturally excited by electric currents in lightning. Schumann resonances are the principal background in the electromagnetic spectrum[1] beginning at 3 Hz and extend to 60 Hz,[2] and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.83 (fundamental),[3] 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.[1][4]

    In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth. This lowest-frequency (and highest-intensity) mode of the Schumann resonance occurs at a frequency of approximately 7.83 Hz, but this frequency can vary slightly from a variety of factors, such as solar-induced perturbations to the ionosphere, which comprises the upper wall of the closed cavity.[citation needed] The higher resonance modes are spaced at approximately 6.5 Hz intervals,[citation needed] a characteristic attributed to the atmosphere's spherical geometry. The peaks exhibit a spectral width of approximately 20% on account of the damping of the respective modes in the dissipative cavity. The 8th partial lies at approximately 60 Hz.[citation needed]


    The asthenosphere (from Greek asthenēs 'weak' + sphere) is the highly viscous, mechanically weak[1] and ductilely-deforming region of the upper mantle of the Earth. It lies below the lithosphere, at depths between ~80 and ~200 km (~ 50 and 124 miles) below the surface. The lithosphere-asthenosphere boundary is usually referred to as LAB. Asthenosphere is generally solid although some of its regions could be melted (e.g. below mid-ocean ridge). The lower boundary of the asthenosphere is not well defined. The thickness of the asthenosphere depends mainly on the temperature. For some regions asthenosphere could extend as deep as 700 km (430 mi). It is considered the source region of mid-ocean ridge basalt (MORB).[2]


    This 'cosmic pregnancy' so defines 265 days from April 1st, 2012 to December 21st, 2012 and a timeline which is encoded in many ancient scrolls and scriptures, as well in certain construction modules as in that of the 'Great Gallery' in the 'Great Pyramid of Khufu-Cheops' in Egypt.

    December 21st, 2012 also is encoded in native calendars, such as that of the Maya and is decribed in the New Testament of the Christian bible as the 1600 'furlong days' in which the 'outer temple' is being measured in Revelation.14.20 and so stipulating August 4th, 2008 as an important nexus date allowing the appropriate decoding of the symbols to fixate one of its anchor nexus dates or 'Logos Points'.

    But from December 21st, 2012, the ancient timelines and beginning at the last initiating precessional circle of the ancients at a proleptic Gregorian date and daycount of March 1st, 23,615 BC in 9,360,000 or 65x144,000 such 'Mayan Baktun' days; the way the cyclyc time in say days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries and millenia could be counted changed into a form of encoded 'Compression' or 'Acceleration' time not in their scientific measurement definitions, but in terms of the encoded logistical timeframes and timespaces. The next two charts show this compression schematically and many of its encoded cipherments have been elucidated many times on a number of forums and message boards. Summararily however; the third cosmic reset nexus point will be Tuesday, March 25th, 2014 to trigger the continuity of the second nexus point of Sunday, April 1st, 31AD and fro its 1st reset point so 2,200 million years ago.

    The first reset point can be decoded as the Cosmic Mother Creation-Creator BodyMindWave remembering herself in a initiation of Her homecoming to the Cosmic Father Creator-Creation WaveMindBody in a Twinship or entanglement of the manyness and the uniqueness of the big scale with the small scales of quantum entanled lifeforms of sentience immersed and energized from a 'Field of Plenum Spacetime occupying Consciousness'.

    The second reset point can be decoded as the Image of the first remembrance now WITHIN the Bodyform of the Cosmic Mother. This then allows the WITHOUT to witness itself in the WITHIN and a Cosmic Twinship or Doubling of the 'Cosmic IDentity Self' can become implemented and made manifest. The first cosmic motherfatherhood of creation so gives birth to its own image or daughtersonship, which can perform the agency to connect the WITHIN to the WITHOUT hitherto separated by the great divide or abyss of the doublesided mirror not being able to explore and discover itself due to its orienatation and necessitation to relativise the perception of the Within as contra to the perception of the Without in its selfhood realisation of Cosmic Truth and Lawfulness.

    The third reset point then allows the Spacetime of the Creator-TwinCreation-Creator entity to mirror itself as a Timespace of Compression and Acceleration in releasing the collected history of the linearized and projected Past of all data processors through the Wormhole nexus into its 'Image Made' Projected Future. Symbolically the X transforms into the 8 with the linearity closing in upon itself in a symbolism found in the Ouroboros or Cosmic Dragon-Dog finally catching its own tail after chasing the same for a long period of timebased evolution of both Mentality and Bodyform related to the morphogenetic forms of the data collectors or co-creators of the cosmic agenda of the transformation and metamorphosis of the older into the newer.
    What is so significant about this upcoming 'time', which is 'warped' (albeit unbeknown by the 'regulators' of the global communities)?
    The human genus has been subject to a particular 'archetypology' for almost 26,000 years, and a timeline if translated into a distance specifying the distance between planet earth to the center of the harbouring Milky Way galaxy (and so 26,000 lightyears away).

    From this 'archetypology' derived the worldwide social and cultural edifices and constructs, such as global 'religions' and harbouring philosophical paradigms, city-nation states and a technology driven by innovative scientific application.

    There is a last 'Blue Moon' (of Full Moons) for this period on December 2nd, 2009 and December 31st, 2009 - heralding the 'New Year' fully encompassing the 70 weeks of supra transformation of 'karmic' archetypes.

    There will be a 'Black Moon' (of New Moons) in July 2011 (1st and 30th) followed by the 'Blue Moons' of August 2012 (2nd & 31st).

    There are NO Blue Full Moons in 2014, but there are two Black New Moons in 2014

    New Elder Moons in 12 Odd Male Number Signs + Lucifer HermesTribeFull Elder Moons in 12 Even Female Number Signs + Aphrodite Lucifera
    01 = 05 September 2013 ?at 11:36UCT-----Virgo Moon in Virgo Sun7=Gad02 = 19 September 2013 at 11:13UCT-----Pisces Moon in Virgo Sun
    03 = 05 October 2013 at 00:34UCT-----Libra Moon in Libra Sun6=Naphtali04 = 18 October 2013 at 23:38UCT------Aries Moon in Libra Sun
    05 = 03November 2013 at 12:50UCT-----Scorpio Moon in Scorpio Sun8=Asher06 = 17 November 2013 at 15:17UCT-----Taurus Moon in Scorpio Sun
    07 = 03 December 2013 at 00:22UCT-----Sagittarius Moon in Sagittarius Sun9=Issachar08 = 17 December 2013 at 09:29UCT-----Gemini Moon in Sagittarius Sun
    09 = 01 January 2014 at 11:15UCT-----Capricorn Moon in Capricorn Sun
    as 1st New Elder Black Moon of the Endtimes 3½/1261
    10=Zebulon10 = 16 January 2014 at 04:54UCT-----Cancer Moon in Capricorn Sun
    11 = 30 January 2014 at 21:41UCT-----Aquarius Moon in Aquarius Sun
    as 2nd New Elder Black Moon of the Endtimes 3½/1261
    12=Joseph12 = 14 February 2014 at 23:55UCT-----Leo Moon in Aquarius Sun
    13 = 01 March 2014 at 08:03UCT-----Pisces Moon in Pisces Sun
    as 3rd New Elder Black Moon of the Endtimes 3½/1261
    13=Benjamin14 = 16 March 2014 at 17:11UCT-----Virgo Moon in Pisces Sun
    15 = 30 March 2014 at 18:48UCT-----Aries Moon in Aries Sun

    as 4th New Elder Black Moon of the Endtimes 3½/1261
    1=Reuben16 = 15 April 2014 at 07:45UCT-----Libra Moon in Aries Sun for Total Lunar Eclipse
    17 = 29 April 2014 at 06:18UCT-----Taurus Moon in Taurus Sun for Annular Solar Eclipse2=Simeon18 = 14 May 2014 at 19:19UCT-----Scorpio Moon in Taurus Sun
    19 = 28 May 2014 at 18:43UCT-----Gemini Moon in Gemini Sun3=Levi20 = 13 June 2014 at 04:14UCT-----Sagittarius Moon in Gemini Sun
    21 = 27 June 2014 at 08:11UCT-----Cancer Moon in Cancer Sun5=Dan22 = 12 July 2014 at 11:27UCT-----Capricorn Moon in Cancer Sun
    23 = 26 July 2014 at 22:43UCT-----Leo Moon in Leo Sun4=Judah24 = 10 August 2014 at 18:11UCT-----Aquarius Moon in Leo Sun
    25 = 25 August 2014 at 14:13UCT-----Omega Moon in Virgo Sun11=Dinah26 = 09 September 2014 at 01:39UCT-----Alpha Moon in Eagle Sun
    27 = 24 September 2014 at 06:14UCT-----Alpha Moon in Libra Sun14=Ophiuchus28 = 08 October 2014 at 10:51UCT-----Omega Moon in Arachne Sun for Total Lunar Eclipse
    29 = 23 October 2014 at 21:56UCT----Eagle Moon in Scorpio Sun for Partial Solar Eclipse15=Arachne30 = 06 November 2014 at 22:23UCT-----Dragon-Phoenix Moon in Ophiuchus Sun
    In 2014, there are two solar eclipses, one annular and two total lunar eclipses as follows.

    2014 Apr 15: Total Lunar Eclipse
    2014 Apr 29: Annular Solar Eclipse
    2014 Oct 08: Total Lunar Eclipse
    2014 Oct 23: Partial Solar Eclipse

    In 2015, there are two solar eclipses, one total and two lunar eclipses, one total as follows.

    2015 Mar 20: Total Solar Eclipse
    2015 Apr 04: Partial Lunar Eclipse
    2015 Sep 13: Partial Solar Eclipse
    2015 Sep 28: Total Lunar Eclipse

    All of those old archetypes have held the human groupsoul 'to ransom' and imprisoned the human group consciousness under 'name it yourself' social conventions and hierarchical structures like 'religion', 'tradition' or 'class'.
    All of those Old Archetypes, now almost 26,000 years old, - MUST be replaced by New Archetypes - ergo the necessity for a 'warped timeline' as indicated above.
    Why the 'must'? Because the end of the cycle demands a reconfiguration of the Old Beginning (Alpha to Omega) as a New Beginning (Omega to Alpha) in the 'closing of the 'age' or the 'closing of the circle'.
    Personal 'turmoil' is required to 'shake the individual' out of its lethargic slumberland of expecting 'things' (say the world) to continue as 'always'.
    The alpha-omega point had its last occurrence in 23,615 BC and a long time before the collective genetic groupmind of humanity of today can pertinently remember itself.
    So the present 'psychophysical' collective human mind has entered 'new territory'.

    A few 'old souls', familiar with Plato's Cave might remember the overriding and encompassing galactic archetype.
    Perseus aka Milky Way is on his adventure to 'marry' Andromeda, daughter of Cassiopeia in a celestial or 'heavenly wedding' of superlatives.
    To do that, Perseus must overcame many obstacles set into his way by the 'jealous' Olympians.
    For is not Perseus, the son of Zeus, yet also the son of a mortal woman Danae?
    Under protectorate of Zeus and some 'tools from the goddesses'; Perseus must face the gorgons and the titans in Medusa and the Kraken to rescue Andromeda. Upon succeeeding in his quest, Perseus and Andromeda will reconfigure the constellations and their new archetypes will forever change the Old into the New.

    April and Brooke; both of you are Andromeda in jeopardy of being 'sacrificed' to the Kraken, the 'old titan' and one of the usurpers of the preOlympian creation.
    But just as you are unawares of your starry identities, so are your 'Sons of Zeus' unaware of theirs. But exist the do and real they are.
    Before they will appear to ask for your partnership; both are required to become created within yourself as your own unifications. It is deemed necessary, that the new archetypology be built on a new foundation and for this reason and purpose you have become empowered (by your individuated struggles of familial natures) to MIRROR yourselves within yourselves INDEPENDENT from the outside world and your external associations.
    Realising your own shadows, will then allow your Perseuses to realise theirs, just in looking at you as new creations and subsequentlybecome enabled to 'redefine' themselves (in your images).
    April, Scott is as much 'trapped' in the 'world around himself' as you are. This 'world' is 'getting ready for the harvest' and despite the naysayers, noone can escape the harvesting or remain sitting on the fence as an onlooker and observer. This 'harvest' is NOT physical, but mental and has everything to to do with 'human consciousness' and/or self-perception.
    Scott cannot change under the auspices of the present nexus until you have changed. The present agenda is far far more, than just some personal 'struggle' or dilemma of 'evolutionary growth'.
    The development must be thorough and sudden or the old partnerships will simply break apart.
    In some manner ALL human partnerships are presently under such tension or evolution pressure; the difference is, that now the pressure is beyond the physical (alcoholism, drug abuse, still birth, self-abortion or some other physical problem).

    Brooke; your problem is not your biological infertility, but your 'higher self'. You have decided on a 'deeper soul level' NOT to fall pregnant in your present 'state of mind', because you know of the dramatic changes pertaining to the environment for your baby in the next few years.
    You are becoming more and more 'distracted' by the 'status quo' and your skepticism towards what for you has been a 'natural spiritual gift' - your own self-remembrance as a foremost spiritual being and an 'old soul' from Plato's Cave. Have you altogether now forgotten Delphi?
    In your strong desires for womanhood and your 'place in the world'; you have neglected your 'precious gifts attained previously' and your 'spiritual heart' KNOWS this very well.
    So instead of ridiculing the messenger, you might enquire of your thinking heart and render your mind feeling instead of rationalizing.
    Should you reopen your communications with your 'Isaiahean heart', then you will receive a very distinct message, which shall show you when and how to conceive and bear.
    The 'timing' will then be right and you will have remembered yourself and your reason for being incarnate at the present timeline.

    April; your dreaming Atlantis is of great significance as it pertains as much to your future as it does to your past.
    The strange hieroglyphs on the walls are part of the encodings residing deep within your 'soul'.
    These are not symbols to be interpreted, like mathematical semantics, but these are symbols which you know intuitively, even telepathically, if you just could gather the confidence to utilize them.
    In this respect, they have occurred through your dreams to rekindle your ancient past, when you knew how to use those symbols.
    It would behoove you very well, should you go outside one cloudless night and deeply ponder the brightest star in the sky - Sirius aka Canis Major, the Dog-Star so 8.6 lightyears from earth.
    Atlantis has its origin with Sirius and connects through this relatively nearby constellation to the prehuman timeline beginning so 50,000 years ago with the 'Seven Sisters' and Arcturus, as well as Andromeda.
    There are 4 great ancient constellations, which are represented on earth; all of which serve humanity in archetype and in remembrance. Pondering any or all of them, will trigger elemental archetypes and 'strange feelings' of 'knowing without knowing'.

    The Canines of Sirius with a codename:"The Sirian Doggods of the Air of Western Jerusalem".
    The Felines of Andromeda with a codename: "The Andromedean Lions of the Fire of Eastern Judah".
    The Pachyderms (Elephants, Rhinoceroses and Hippopotamuses) of Arcturus with a codename: "The Arcturian Elephants of the Earth of Northern Samaria".
    The Cetaceans (Whales, Dolphins and Porpoises) of Pleiadius with a codename: "The Pleiadean Whales of the Water of Southern Jonah".

    It is the human identity, which is being 'harvested' and EVERYONE in incarnation 'knows' this to be the case on an 'inner soul level' or similar labelling. The human identity is in transit to become 'extraplanetary' or 'galactic'. For this purpose, the 'old worlds', both individually and globally must transform and change into a 'new world'.
    As this change cannot become physicalized before the (mental) archetypes and templates have themselves become manifested 'psychophysically' or metaphysically; the present circumstances prevail and will continue to prevail until the new blueprints have become implemented.
    The success of this implementation is however assured; because there are a few 'old souls' in Plato's Cave, who understand and help to manifest the required transformations.


    add2015. vesicapisc.

    John Shadow of Shenandoah shilohaplace on Sunday, March 23rd, 2014 in the day of the 10th horn of deliverances!

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  3. shiloh za-rah

    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

    Allisiam - Posted Apr 3rd

    Cloaking Agendas in the Times of Transitions

    (37) His disciples said, "When will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?"
    Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children and tread on them, then will you see the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid"


    [9:37:02 AM] Allisiam: is there anything specific you want me to notice about these 49 days?
    [9:37:16 AM] Shiloh: No they are intense everywhere
    [9:37:28 AM] Shiloh: 3 mirrors
    [9:37:37 AM] Shiloh: They trap the old world
    [9:37:37 AM] Allisiam: i notice everyone on fb is feeling things intensely
    [9:37:49 AM] Allisiam: a lot of sadness going on
    [9:37:51 AM] Shiloh: But they ended April 2nd
    [9:38:04 AM] Shiloh: This ended 10 prison days of rev
    [9:38:10 AM] Shiloh: Now we have 10 days of babylon
    [9:38:14 AM] Allisiam: we had a mass shooting here again in Fort Hood Tx and Chile had another massive EQ
    [9:38:40 AM] Allisiam: 8.2
    [9:39:10 AM] Allisiam: (82) Jesus said, "He who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."
    [9:39:16 AM] Shiloh: Yes and this missing flight seems to have been a cover up to do with semiconductors and patents of military cloaking technology
    [9:39:37 AM] Allisiam: oh i had not heard this?
    [9:39:39 AM] Shiloh: There was NO debris in the Indian ocean
    [9:39:48 AM] Allisiam: nope they have found jack shi@4
    [9:39:50 AM] Shiloh: I just about buy it
    [9:40:27 AM] Allisiam: i almost do wonder if Israel and their reaction to this missing plane is not paranoid after all
    [9:40:56 AM] Allisiam: it is awful bizarre how the whole story has changed over and over
    [9:41:09 AM] Allisiam: every day the search area changes almost
    [9:41:57 AM] Shiloh: Do me a favour and post those 2 videos and anything else you might feel appropriate onto the forums old and new
    [9:42:43 AM] Allisiam: ok let me watch them
    [9:42:46 AM] Shiloh: I just extended your forum too btw so don't worry yet about transferring
    [9:49:56 AM] Allisiam: god, makes you wonder doesn't it?
    [9:50:04 AM] Allisiam: doesn't surprise me
    [9:51:08 AM] Shiloh: It seems rather logical
    [9:51:22 AM] Shiloh: 26 semiconductor engineers
    [9:51:27 AM] Allisiam: OMG these asshats relocated the entire village?
    [9:51:31 AM] Shiloh: and the cloaking is factual
    [9:51:40 AM] Shiloh: yes and killed all the pets
    [9:51:49 AM] Allisiam: sick
    [9:52:12 AM] Allisiam: Tony have you decoded the MH370?
    [9:56:08 AM] Shiloh: 31=13=JC=CJ but just a flight number
    [9:57:52 AM] Allisiam: anything for a military base
    [9:57:59 AM] Allisiam: unreal

    March 30th, 2014 New Moon in Aries ~ New Beginning!

    Mar 29

    Posted by Pleiadian Delegate; The Queen of Light

    March 30th, 2014 New Moon in Aries~ 3:45pm ADT A New Beginning!! A New Birth!!

    This Aries New Moon, with the Sun also in Aries, marks the beginning of the Astrological New Year! This is also a Black Moon, which is the second New Moon in One Month. And we have MANY Great Surprises to Anticipate with Great Joy, now and in April. Each New Moon we Have a New Birth ~ This New Moon Truly is a New Birth and New Beginning!
    This New Moon Being the Beginning of Astrological Calendar Year, is the Time to OPEN WIDE, to the Voice of Your Heart, to the Voice of your Soul!
    The Sabian Symbol for this Aries New Moon, 10 degrees ~ is A Shining Golden Ring, engraved with magical symbols. The image is of a MARRIAGE ring, symbolizing UNION. The Alchemical Process of Union and Transfiguration ~ The Birth of the New Creation and The Birthing of You!

    What is ahead in April ~ IS being felt now, as it approaches! As you Move through time and it moves towards You!

    A Cardinal Grand Cross on April 23/24th 2014 takes place between Two Eclipses!! April 14 a Total Lunar Eclipse and A Solar Eclipse April 28th, 2014! The Opening of the New Creation was felt powerfully on the Equinox, March 20th, 2014 and much will continue to open and be experienced and Birthed up to and through the April 28th, Solar Eclipse.
    The RARE Astrological event of the Cardinal Grand Cross, includes Four Planets, Pluto opposing Jupiter and Mars opposing Uranus, during the climax of the Cardinal Grand Cross all the Four Planets will be sitting at 13 degrees!
    Mars will be retrograde during the Cardinal Grand Cross and each of these planets will also be sitting 13 degrees of the 4 CARDINAL Signs. Pluto 13 degrees Capricorn, Jupiter 13 degrees Cancer, Mars 13 degrees Libra and Uranus 13 degrees in Aries!

    Now this is a New Moon Blog Post, why talk about the Cardinal Grand Cross Now?

    Starting January the moving towards this Cardinal Grand Cross was beginning to be felt! And this New Moon, Marking the beginning of the Astrological year, is a POWERFUL time to Start Now, and to OPEN even more so, to your Heart, to your Soul, to your Destiny, to Union and YOUR New Birth!
    Everything has truly been ongoing, as time is not as it seems, you are passing through it, and the Stars are matching you! And they are all shifting and changing in many ways that are not seen from the linear view of things. Things are not as they seem on Planet Earth.
    Use this time, as you prepare for your New Birth, to deeply move into your Heart. Spend time in silence, in nature. Listen to your Heart. Let go of the Fear that has stopped you, and move through the Fear, through your Heart. Surrender to Love, to Bliss and Joy, Knowing truly, all that you Are.
    Below are links to receiving the Daily 12pm ADT Queen of Light Transmission and Links to Audio Transmissions that move you deeper into your Heart, awaken you in Joy and Harmony, in Alignment with Union, In Alignment with your New Birth. Links to Blog Posts on the New Creation are also included.
    Enjoy this Sacred Beautiful time! Love All that You Are, and All that you Have always Been. KNOWING Truly yourself, through your Sacred Union.
    Below you will also find the New Moon Invocation, written and Audio, Information on crystals, crystal programming, crystal water, the Moon and cycles. I am forever Holding you in my Heart, I love you!


    In Divine Love, Ecstasy in Eternity!
    Pleiadian Delegate ~ The Queen of Light

    The 'Hour of the Beast' and the 'Day of Babylon' defined in 3 Mirrors of the TwinLogos in 7 Weeks from March 1st to March 10th to March 25th to April 9th to April 19th, 2014


    Hour of

    10 Horns
    10 Kings
    7 Mountains7 Heads7 Kings
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    Left Time Logos Boundary
    8th Day of Easter Image

    1st Day of Isaiah's Sabbath Mirror Week for a Left Isaiah New Dark Moon lB!lA at 08:03UCT
    Shrove Saturday 2014
    7th Day of Easter Image
    2nd Day of Isaiah's Sabbath Mirror Week
    Shrove Sunday 2014
    6th Day of Easter Image
    3rd Day of Isaiah's Sabbath Mirror Week
    Shrove Monday 2014
    5th Day of Easter Image
    Beginning of 3 Weeks Gabriel Persia

    Shrove Tuesday 2014
    4th Day of Easter Image
    1st Day of Lent 2014
    Ash Wednesday 2014
    3rd Day of Easter Image
    2nd Day of Lent 2014
    2nd Day of Easter image
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    Sat,08Mar20145/4---/---------------------4th Day of Lent 2014
    Sun,09Mar20146/5---/---------------------5th Day of Lent 2014
    Mon,10Mar20147/61/---1---1st Left---------1st Heaven of Cosmic ID de Babylon
    Tue,11Mar20148/72/---2---2nd Left---------2nd Heaven of Expansion de Babylon
    Wed,12Mar20149/83/---3---3rd Left---------3rd Heaven of Order de Babylon
    Thu,13Mar201410/94/---4---4th Left---------4th Heaven of Symmetry de Babylon
    Fri,14Mar201411/105/---5---5th Left---------5th Heaven of Divergence-Infinity de Babylon
    Sat,15Mar201412/116/---61st Left6th Left------1st LionRib6th Heaven of Inversion de Babylon
    Sun,16Mar201413/127/---72nd Left7th Left------2nd LionRib7th Heaven of Reflection for a Isaiah Full Moon fB<lA at 17:11UCT
    Mon,17Mar201414/138/---83rd LeftLeft Mirror------3rd LionRibLeft Right Onsided Mirror of the 8th Relativity HeavenHell de Babylon
    Tue,18Mar201415/149/---9/1st4th Left7th Left1st---ManHeart9th HeavenHell of Absorption in Quantization de Babylon
    Wed,19Mar201416/1510/---10/2nd5th Left6th Left2nd1st FallenBear10th HeavenHell of New Cosmic ID in Invariance de Babylon
    Thu,20Mar201417/1611/2111/3rd6th Left5th Left3rd2nd Fallen1st Leopard1st Hell of Convergence-Limitation as the 1st Pris(m)on Day
    Fri,21Mar201418/1712/2012/4th7th Left4th Left4th3rd Fallen2nd Leopard2nd Hell of Distortion-Entropy as the 2nd Pris(m)on Day
    Sat,22Mar201419/1813/1913/5th8th Left3rd Left5th4th Fallen3rd Leopard3rd Hell of Disorder-Chaos as the 3rd Pris(m)on Day
    Sun,23Mar201420/1914/1814/6th9th Left2nd Left6th5th Fallen4th Leopard4th Hell of Contraction-Devolution as the 4th Pris(m)on Day
    Mon,24Mar201421/2015/1715/7th10th Left1st Left7th Healed6th IS IDIronMan5th Hell of Cosmic AntiID as the 5th Pris(m)on Day
    Tue,25Mar2014000/2116/1600/8th11th Center00000008th7th IS TO BEoooooooCentral Doublesided Mirror of Logos Relativity
    Wed,26Mar201421/2217/1515/7th10th Right1st Right7th Healed6th IS IDIronMan5th Hell of New Cosmic ID as the 6th Pris(m)on Day
    Thu,27Mar201420/2318/1414/6th9th Right2nd Right6th5th Fallen4th Leopard4th Hell of New Evolution as the 7th Pris(m)on Day
    Fri,28Mar201419/2419/1313/5th8th Right3rd Right5th4th Fallen3rd Leopard3rd Hell of New Lawfulness as the 8th Pris(m)on Day
    Sat,29Mar201418/2520/1212/4th7th Right4th Right4th3rd Fallen2nd Leopard2nd Hell of New Harmonisation as the 9th Pris(m)on Day
    Sun,30Mar201417/2621/1111/3rd6th Right5th Right3rd2nd Fallen1st Leopard1st Hell of New Eternity as the 10th Pris(m)on Day for A Right Isaiah New Dark Moon aB!aA at 18:48UCT
    Mon,31Mar201416/27---/1010/2nd5th Right6th Right2nd1st FallenBear10th HellHeaven of New Cosmic AntiID in Inversion as 1st/10th de Babylon
    Tue,01Apr201415/28---/99/1st4th Right7th Right1st---ManHeart9th HellHeaven of Reflection in Quantization as 2nd/9th de Babylon
    Wed,02Apr201414/29---/883rd RightRight Mirror------3rd LionRibRight Left Onesided Mirror of the 8th Relativity HellHeaven as 3rd/8th de Babylon
    Thu,03Apr201413/30---/772nd Right7th Right------2nd LionRib7th Heaven of Reflection as 4th/7th de Babylon
    Fri,04Apr201412/31---/661st Right6th Right------1st LionRib6th Heaven of Inversion as 5th/6th de Babylon
    Sat,05Apr201411/32---/55---5th Right---------5th Heaven of Divergence-Infinity as 6th/5th de Babylon
    Sun,06Apr201410/33---/44---4th Right---------4th Heaven of Symmetry as 7th/4th de Babylon
    Mon,07Apr20149/34---/33---3rd Right---------3rd Heaven of Order as 8th/3rd de Babylon
    Tue,08Apr20148/35---/22---2nd Right---------2nd Heaven of Expansion as 9th/2nd de Babylon
    Wed,09Apr20147/36---/11---1st Right---------1st Heaven of Cosmic ID as 10th/1st de Babylon
    Thu,10Apr20146/37---/---------------------37th Day of Lent
    38th Day of Lent
    Sorrows Friday 2014
    39th Day of Lent
    Lazarus Saturday 2014
    40th Day of Lent
    1st Day of Easter
    PalmSunday 2014
    2nd Day of Easter
    Palm Monday 2014

    Beginning of 3 Weeks Michael Grecia in Image and Passover Full Moon 2014 gB<aA at 07:45UCT for a Total Lunar Eclipse
    3rd Day of Easter
    Last Supper Tuesday 2014

    4th Midweek Image Day of Isaiah's Mirror Week
    4th Day of Easter
    Passion Wednesday 2014
    3rd Image Day of Isaiah's Sabbath Mirror Week
    5th Day of Easter
    Great Sabbath Thursday 2014

    2nd Image Day of Isaiah's Sabbath Mirror Week
    6th Day of Easter
    Good Friday 2014
    1st Image Day of Isaiah's Sabbath Mirror Week
    7th Day of Easter
    Holy Sabbath Saturday 2014
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    8th Day of Easter
    Right Time Logos Boundary


    Isaiah 66:22-24
    King James Version (KJV)

    22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
    23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

    24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

    Daniel 7
    King James Version (KJV)

    1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
    2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
    3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
    4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
    5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
    6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
    7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
    8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

    9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
    10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
    11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
    12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
    13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
    14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
    15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.

    16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.
    17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
    18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
    19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
    20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
    21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
    22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
    23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
    24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

    25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
    26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
    27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
    28 Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.

    Daniel 10
    King James Version (KJV)

    1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
    2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
    3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
    4 And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;
    5 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:

    6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
    7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
    8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.
    9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.
    10 And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands.
    11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
    12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
    13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
    14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
    15 And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.
    16 And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.
    17 For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
    18 Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
    19 And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
    20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
    21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

    Revelation 13
    King James Version (KJV)

    1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
    2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
    3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

    4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
    5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
    6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
    7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
    8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
    10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
    11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

    13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
    18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    Revelation 17
    King James Version (KJV)

    1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
    2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
    3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
    4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
    5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
    6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
    7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
    8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
    9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
    11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
    12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
    13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
    14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
    15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
    16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
    17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
    18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

    Revelation 18
    King James Version (KJV)

    1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
    2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
    3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
    5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
    6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
    7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
    8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

    9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
    10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
    11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
    12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
    13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
    14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
    15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
    16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
    17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
    18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
    19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
    20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
    21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
    22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
    23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
    24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    Revelation 2:10-11
    King James Version (KJV)

    10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
    11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

    7 Weeks of 50 days become infused by 4 moons bounded in 45 days descriptive of 1½ lunations and in 2 Isaiah New Dark Moons of March 1st and March 30th, 2014 bounding a Isaiah Full Moon on March 16th, 2014, the latter completing a lunar cycle on the Passover Full Moon of 2014 on April 15th, 2014.

    10 Horns imaged in a central doublesided Mirror (of the 'See the SEA') of the TwinLogos and two equidistant onesided mirrors reflecting the left past in the right future, trap 5 Hells in 5 AntiHells to create 10 imaged Heavens in 10+1+10=21 days of Gabriel Persia mirrored in 10+1+10 days of Michael Grecia .

    The 10 horns become 10 symbolic kings, of whom 3 are 'swallowed' as ribs by one of 4 beasts of the archetypology, so defining a 7-headed beast as 7 symbolic kings and as encoded in Daniel.7 and 10 with Revelation.13; 17-18.

    A 11th horn defines the central Logos Mirror as the 8th head of the beast, which relative to the PRESENT of the 11th horn, does not exist as the PAST in the left onesided mirror of the 1st head of the Lion-Eagle beast with the 3 ribs intact.
    The 8th head does exist as the 7th king of the 'Day and the Hour of the Judgement' and is relative to the PRESENT of the 11th horn. It is of the seven other heads reflecting in it from the onesided mirrors on the left of the relative past and the right of the relative future.

    The 5 hells become mirrored as 5 image hells in 11 days and create a new image of ten prism/prison days which manifest as ten days as the doubling of the 'sorrows of Babylon' with the anagram identity of SWORDS of 79=MOTHER of WORDS.

    2015 = 2060

    [8:11:55 AM-Tuesday, April 15th, 2014 +10UCT] Shiloh: Btw a VERY important chart regarding passover and the Solomon temple will be published today
    [8:12:00 AM] Sirius 17: and adding text colors and quotes
    [8:12:01 AM] Shiloh: I had a big download
    [8:12:15 AM] Shiloh: yes you are doing great
    [8:12:18 AM] Sirius 17: oh, you did see the EQ
    [8:12:28 AM] Sirius 17: in the Solomon islands
    [8:12:42 AM] Shiloh: Don't let those errors bother you too much; it is SENSITIVE this forum but once ok it is stable
    [8:12:51 AM] Shiloh: Today?
    [8:13:14 AM] Shiloh: The 3rd Temple of Solomon is headline
    [8:13:29 AM] Sirius 17: yesterday
    [8:13:38 AM] Sirius 17: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/
    [8:13:57 AM] Sirius 17: 7.4111km S of Kirakira, Solomon Islands2014-04-13 12:36:18 UTC35.0 km deep
    7.6100km SSE of Kirakira, Solomon Islands
    [8:14:00 AM] Shiloh: A cosmic P(s)almed Wedding Week of New Jerusalem's Dragonomy in the Template of Solomon
    [8:14:00 AM] Sirius 17: and the day before
    [8:14:15 AM] Sirius 17: the big one hit on the 12th
    [8:14:22 AM] Sirius 17: look at the usgs there
    [8:14:30 AM] Sirius 17: ring of fire is going nuts
    [8:15:13 AM] Sirius 17: at first they said it was an 8.2 but downgraded it
    [8:15:29 AM] Sirius 17: but the aftershocks are still going on it looks like
    [8:15:58 AM] Shiloh: This dispensation of April 15th, 2014 on Passover-Easter Week 2014 then represents the fulfilment of all prophetic scripture codes in regards to the 'Rebuilding of Solomon's temple' and a cosmically defined 'History of Is-Ra-El'
    [8:16:03 AM] Shiloh: Things like that
    [8:16:11 AM] Sirius 17: yes i knew
    [8:16:31 AM] Sirius 17: this is the rebuilding of the temple time and i noticed the EQ
    [8:16:31 AM] Shiloh: But it will also directly authorize the cores dear
    [8:16:41 AM] Shiloh: And it will show you things
    [8:16:53 AM] Shiloh: I will start this now
    [8:17:10 AM] Shiloh: Full Moon is in 9 hours or so
    [8:17:20 AM] Sirius 17: it is still the 14th here
    [8:17:22 AM] Shiloh: The Blood Moon trigger into 2015
    [8:17:31 AM] Sirius 17: but they say the eclipse should be visible here
    [8:17:46 AM] Shiloh: I will add blood moon pic and video perhaps
    [8:18:04 AM] Shiloh: Visibility isn't the key; the timeline is
    [8:18:18 AM] Shiloh: Israel reconfigured cosmically
    [8:18:22 AM] Sirius 17: yes of course, i just mentioned that as i may be able to see it
    [8:18:27 AM] Sirius 17: the eclipse that is
    [8:18:32 AM] Sirius 17: it has been clear here
    [8:18:42 AM] Shiloh: Ok I will send you a draft in an hour or so
    [8:18:58 AM] Sirius 17: have you slept yet?
    [8:19:08 AM] Shiloh: Remember that the names are coded
    [8:19:11 AM] Sirius 17: you just woke up ?
    [8:19:24 AM] Shiloh: A few hours ago
    [8:19:41 AM] Sirius 17: ah ok dear, yes i am working on this thread
    [8:19:55 AM] Shiloh: A potent dream about cores yesterday which I could decode today or last night - ergo this chart
    [8:20:15 AM] Sirius 17: oh, will you share the dream?
    [8:20:25 AM] Shiloh: It was the twincore
    [8:21:05 AM] Shiloh: I made friends with someone (riding motorbikes) and this one showed me things
    [8:21:43 AM] Shiloh: At the end I met his 'core' and thought this is my dreamform, beautiful hair etc and she wanted me
    [8:22:02 AM] Shiloh: I could not get how someone so perfect should be someone else's core
    [8:22:39 AM] Shiloh: Then the dream went to myself alone again and many 'obstacles' and hatred from others
    [8:22:56 AM] Sirius 17: i had a powerful sexual dream the day of this EQ, some strange man invaded my dreams, had glasses and blonde hair and just fuc11ed the hell out of me. i did not reconize them at all or the energy signature.
    [8:23:12 AM] Shiloh: Today it dawned to me that this is the rebuilding of a cosmic merkabah
    [8:23:30 AM] Shiloh: I must do the chart to explain this better
    [8:23:54 AM] Shiloh: But it is to do with internal and external mirror symmetries the images of the GOT
    [8:23:57 AM] Shiloh: It is all GOT
    [8:24:11 AM] Shiloh: Yes this would be linked
    [8:24:14 AM] Sirius 17: nice
    [8:24:28 AM] Shiloh: It also explains our twinlogos entwinemet
    [8:24:58 AM] Shiloh: In short, a template must be created using ascension-descension of the JCCJ base perfect cosmic waveform blueprint
    [8:25:23 AM] Shiloh: This template then becomes a mirror as NEW for the OLD partnerships internally divided etc
    [8:25:48 AM] Shiloh: But the NEW is both cosmically and naturally cored to the OLD
    [8:25:59 AM] Shiloh: Like you and James and Xeia and Rok
    [8:26:18 AM] Shiloh: But the New is double polarity and HAS internal harmony; but the Old is singular in internal disharmony
    [8:26:27 AM] Shiloh: The old has not got this internal harmony
    [8:26:35 AM] Sirius 17: nope
    [8:26:44 AM] Shiloh: This is why the old human is continually at war with itself
    [8:27:05 AM] Sirius 17: yes and it seems a hopeless fuc11ing case
    [8:27:31 AM] Shiloh: It IS hopeless by nature and the original 'sin-ignorance' of the Male-Female divide
    [8:27:56 AM] Shiloh: Solomon's temple fixes it through and by the Body of the Christtwin
    [8:28:19 AM] Shiloh: Ergo the waveparticle duality unified in the resurrection
    [8:28:22 AM] Sirius 17: Tony this man in my dreams was someone new
    [8:29:03 AM] Shiloh: Yes, just as 'Greg' is for 'Chappell' and 'Shelley' is for 'Paul'
    [8:30:28 AM] Shiloh: But the wavecore template will be established by 'Paul' and 'Shelly' for 'Greg and 'Chappell' to transform as image of the old in the image of the new
    [8:31:32 AM] Shiloh: It can actually be expressed in mathematical equations, but the chart will show the basic supersymmetry between polarities both attractive and repulsive
    [8:33:07 AM] Shiloh: Then by the principle of mathematical induction aka the computer iteration n=1; n: n=n+1; a kind of domino effect occurs, which multiplies not only the JCCJ ascent-descent, but also the natural-cosmic coring partners of the old human dissonance matrices
    [8:33:38 AM] Shiloh: Those become the 'many mansions' of Jesus, prepared for the 'redeemed'
    [8:33:46 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [8:33:53 AM] Sirius 17: the empty vessels
    [8:34:02 AM] Shiloh: I will create this now
    [8:34:21 AM] Sirius 17: ok hon, thanks for explaining things
    [8:34:22 AM] Shiloh: I might add this convo as descriptor
    [8:34:29 AM] Sirius 17: sure
    [8:34:43 AM] Shiloh: Having said this, you or anyone should be able to decode the chart without using mathematical concepts in equations
    [8:35:10 AM] Sirius 17: hehe
    [8:35:37 AM] Shiloh: It is of course D.I.Y in substituting for the names of 2 'brothers' and 2 'sisters'
    [8:35:38 AM] Sirius 17: thats good because i suck at math still
    shilohaplace, April 15th, 2014
    Btw here is the edited chart
    [9:02:42 AM - Thursday, April 17th, 2014 +10UCT] *** Shiloh sent Solomon2015.gif Solomon2015.gif ***
    [9:02:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes i tried to download it but you must of been offline
    [9:02:53 AM] Shiloh: It has more codes you know about
    [9:03:06 AM] Shiloh: And a schematic pic of what this cornerstone is
    [9:04:05 AM] Sirius 17: oh nice
    [9:04:23 AM] Shiloh: Your harem is 7 lol
    [9:04:25 AM] Sirius 17: yes i did not understand this 7 lovers thing you mentioned to her
    [9:04:27 AM] Shiloh: Cosmic law
    [9:04:47 AM] Shiloh: There are just 6 adjacencies to the twincore
    [9:04:52 AM] Sirius 17: nice
    [9:04:59 AM] Shiloh: This is the hexcore +1
    [9:05:05 AM] Sirius 17: yes i got that part
    [9:05:18 AM] Shiloh: It decodes the 5 paradise trees too
    [9:05:51 AM] Shiloh: See the change is that your ascended core must precede your physical core
    [9:06:00 AM] Shiloh: This is JCCJ and the 3 secrets
    [9:06:22 AM] Shiloh: It explains the 7 husbands of the nonmarriage in heaven
    [9:06:33 AM] Shiloh: It explains the 5+1 husbands of MM
    [9:06:41 AM] Shiloh: And her 7 cast out devils
    [9:07:14 AM] Shiloh: So in a way you are Shelley and I am Paul as core #1
    [9:07:45 AM] Shiloh: But we are cored to Greg=you and Chappell=me as the Inner becoming equal to the outer
    [9:08:02 AM] Sirius 17: you said it explains our entwinement ?
    [9:08:06 AM] Shiloh: This IS twincoring wave and particular combined
    [9:08:10 AM] Shiloh: This was my dream
    [9:08:24 AM] Sirius 17: oh i see
    [9:08:24 AM] Shiloh: Yes as above Shelley is also Mitch
    [9:08:32 AM] Shiloh: Doug is Greg
    [9:08:44 AM] Shiloh: Aquarius-Leo
    [9:08:51 AM] Shiloh: Greg is also James
    [9:09:00 AM] Sirius 17: ok i see
    [9:09:19 AM] Shiloh: But Greg cant core to Shelley until Shelley has supercored with Paul
    [9:09:42 AM] Shiloh: Tony cant core with 44=Elder until Tony has cored with the MILD
    [9:10:04 AM] Sirius 17: yes the JCCJ has to come first
    [9:10:09 AM] Shiloh: Raven cant core with James until the Paul-Shelley core waved is authorized by JCCJ
    [9:10:25 AM] Shiloh: Exactly and this is Easter Week and the Passover Moon
    [9:10:43 AM] Shiloh: Ergo the 3rd Temple WILL be built Easter week during those 7 days
    [9:11:06 AM] Sirius 17: and this is the extensions, the many mansions

    John 14:1-3 - King James Version (KJV)

    1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
    2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
    3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

    [9:11:13 AM] Shiloh: Halfway is the Passion symbolised in your life by Coco DOG goes to GOD
    [9:11:19 AM] Shiloh: Yes
    [9:11:37 AM] Shiloh: There will be 7 primary lovers for all starhumans
    [9:11:50 AM] Shiloh: As the old 7 heavens see this now?
    [9:12:05 AM] Sirius 17: ahhh ok, lol makes sense
    [9:12:07 AM] Shiloh: This is why the woman in Luke has 7 husband brothers and not 6 or 8
    [9:12:17 AM] Sirius 17: yes and the 7 devils ect
    [9:12:30 AM] Shiloh: Jesus knew this but could not say it like that at the times of the Romans in Judea
    [9:12:51 AM] Shiloh: See this is a superpotent core definition?
    [9:12:56 AM] Shiloh: 1+1+2+3 = 7
    [9:13:13 AM] Shiloh: Unified twincore is 1+1
    [9:13:26 AM] Shiloh: Then follow 2 ground level partnerships
    [9:13:33 AM] Shiloh: Then 3 1st level
    [9:13:41 AM] Shiloh: This is the 2 against 3 of the GOT
    [9:13:59 AM] Shiloh: Fibonacci sequence right from the GOT
    [9:14:21 AM] Sirius 17: ok wow
    [9:14:28 AM] Shiloh: Natures way of maximizing data compression in all evolution and growth patterns
    [9:14:44 AM] Sirius 17: some download you had
    [9:15:14 AM] Shiloh: Yes my dream about this 'ideal' core lover brought it on and I had to decode this download
    [9:16:03 AM] Sirius 17: what else about the dream was there, you didn't say much
    [9:16:42 AM] Sirius 17: other than the woman in the dream was your dream lover, hairy
    [9:17:04 AM] Sirius 17: i don't understand the hair except that it symbolizes the waves i guess
    [9:21:28 AM] Shiloh: My love of hair relates to its cosmic nature of becoming the 'antenna for the spirit as the triple Logos Serpent of the White Light complementing the two known Kundalini serpents of the left Black and Right Golden disposition
    [9:21:51 AM] Shiloh: This is why those misguided islamists cover their femmes.
    [9:22:11 AM] Sirius 17: yes the antenna ok gotcha
    [9:22:42 AM] Shiloh: They know of its power and try to confiscate it. Yet they also allow the 7 wives but not the 7 husbands as the hypocrites of the inequality they represent in the polarity 'war of thoughtforms and culture defined memeplexes'
    [9:23:03 AM] Sirius 17: yes true, same with the Mormons
    [9:24:08 AM] Shiloh: The Mormons got that one right lol. Actually it derives straight from Genesis where Jacob has 2 wives and 2 concubines as mothers of the 12 tribes
    [9:24:26 AM] Shiloh: Abraham also had Hagar the handmaiden of Sarah to wife
    [9:24:43 AM] Shiloh: This again becomes the Fibonacci core cosmic
    [9:24:51 AM] Sirius 17: i meant in they are like the Muslims in that they don't allow the women more husbands
    [9:25:25 AM] Shiloh: The 1+1 are so Leah as Shelley and Rachel as Chappell in the Solomon chart
    [9:26:02 AM] Shiloh: Then the two adjacent dragonomies become the handmaidens of Leah in Zilpah and of Rachel in Bilhah
    [9:26:37 AM] Shiloh: This chart, if read appropriately and with insight aka true gnosis retells the Genesis family-lineages too
    [9:27:04 AM] Shiloh: It really becomes the 3rd reconfiguration of Israel as per the Blood Moon prophecies
    [9:27:08 AM] Sirius 17: yes, just like ABBA did when he split from BAAB to create the universe, we are like living the split but in awareness of the two rings now, back together and yet growing on and on
    [9:27:41 AM] Shiloh: But the inane and dozed off Nabsers and mainstreamers will wait for a long time for any political resolution about Eastern Jerusalem and the 3rd Temple
    [9:31:17 AM] Sirius 17: yes new land
    [9:36:08 AM] Sirius 17: Tony did you paste what i said to 44?
    [9:36:28 AM] Shiloh: No
    [9:36:29 AM] Sirius 17: err i mean what i said to you
    [9:36:45 AM] Sirius 17: well you never said what you thought about that
    [9:36:54 AM] Sirius 17: meeting in the physical
    [9:37:18 AM] Shiloh: I understand your impatience, but as you saw, she is sort of waiting for this too at its appropriate time
    [9:37:38 AM] Sirius 17: no i am not impatient
    [9:37:55 AM] Sirius 17: it is just something i have thought about
    [9:38:24 AM] Sirius 17: when does it become appropriate?
    [9:38:46 AM] Sirius 17: i guess when you both decide to make it happen
    [9:38:50 AM] Shiloh: When I am healed sufficiently
    [9:39:12 AM] Shiloh: This 'curse' is in the apocryphon of John as well as in Genesis regarding the 'Exodus from Eden'
    [9:39:19 AM] Shiloh: Perhaps you forgot that
    [9:39:35 AM] Sirius 17: it has been a while since i read it
    [9:40:07 AM] Shiloh: read particularly what is the issue with Adam after the archons created his bodyform
    [9:41:14 AM] Sirius 17: are you healing?
    [9:42:09 AM] Shiloh: I feel changes but the weakness in the leg muscles must take its course regarding the serpent's curse
    [9:42:50 AM] Sirius 17: i told you to get a tens machine, they will strengthen the muscles
    [9:43:43 AM] Sirius 17: but anyhow, my thinking was that if you did meet in the physical it would heal something
    [9:44:12 AM] Sirius 17: a connection would be made that was lost
    [9:44:26 AM] Sirius 17: regardless if you ever met again or not
    [9:44:33 AM] Sirius 17: much like xeia and rok
    [9:44:45 AM] Sirius 17: and james and i
    [9:45:33 AM] Sirius 17: and you said this before yourself
    [9:45:47 AM] Sirius 17: that meeting her in the physical would bring healing and peace
    [9:46:01 AM] Shiloh: Again, look into the 'Secret Book of John' and you might be able to discern and see the purposes and issues a little better. I do not ask nor require human interference or 'pathological clinical treatment'
    [9:47:14 AM] Shiloh: The MILD Core is beyond timespace separations, as you might be able to decode from the Solomon chart, should you read all those descriptors and consider what they might mean and infer for any particular embodied lifeform
    [9:47:50 AM] Sirius 17: yes i know
    [9:47:59 AM] Shiloh: Especially this Inner ID separation for Outer Ego Unification for the wavecore and vice versa for the bodycore
    [9:49:29 AM] Shiloh: I feel like I am ageless, especially mentally and memory wise and so I can engage a certain patience to tarry for my magnetochamber, which will reset the axion connections, so my biobrain can redetect the limbular connectivity
    [9:50:12 AM] Sirius 17: i understand, yeah i feel that way myself
    [9:52:32 AM] Sirius 17: you know they have had a breakthrough in medicine with paralysis lately
    [9:53:22 AM] Shiloh: Yes, I am aware
    [9:53:40 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22423-paralysis-breakthrough-spinal-cord-damage-repaired.html
    [9:53:49 AM] Sirius 17: of course this is spinal cord stimulation
    [9:54:05 AM] Sirius 17: but it is an interesting development
    [9:54:33 AM] Shiloh: But the human medicine is fiscally handicapped and not generally available until the moneychangers have taken their dues
    [9:54:53 AM] Sirius 17: saddly true
    [9:55:09 AM] Sirius 17: people are getting fed up with it too
    [9:55:35 AM] Sirius 17: all the hold ups with treatments and red tape while people die waiting to be allowed a possible cure
    [9:55:35 AM] Shiloh: Like the environmental havoc, it is too late now for the human ingenuity to 'save' this planetary realm befitting its many lifeforms and consciousnesses
    [9:56:01 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [9:56:31 AM] Sirius 17: we need contact
    [9:58:20 AM] Shiloh: Contact has been made with the twin logos 'arriving' on Palm Sunday, April 13th, 2014
    [9:58:57 AM] Shiloh: 3½ days later in the Passover-Easter Week, Coco decided to meet Ripper on Sirius
    [10:00:06 AM] Sirius 17: yes now globally i meant
    [10:00:40 AM] Shiloh: Perhaps the Sirians can give some insights into this
    [10:01:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes i hope so, i got strong impressions they are coming
    [10:02:03 AM] Shiloh: They have many siblings on this planet
    [10:02:18 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [10:02:29 AM] Shiloh: As have the Pleiadeans, Arcturians and Andromedeans
    Sirius 17

    [10:24:03 AM] Shiloh:

    [10:24:08 AM] Shiloh: What bullshit
    [10:24:16 AM] Shiloh: And they listen to those morons
    [10:24:57 AM] Sirius 17: yes gullible
    [10:25:08 AM] Sirius 17: if the ETs were here we would know it, everyone
    [10:25:21 AM] Sirius 17: no one could hide the fact
    [10:25:37 AM] Shiloh: But see how this 'invasion' is the contraindicated agenda of the polarity agenda of the human created thoughtforms and memeplexes?
    [10:25:53 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [10:26:11 AM] Shiloh: They are reality
    [10:26:36 AM] Shiloh: 'The whole human race' will 'fix it all'
    [10:27:15 AM] Shiloh: Yes and the pink flying elephants and the 'spaghetti monster' are circling the planet
    [10:27:34 AM] Shiloh: Waiting to 'make contact'
    [10:27:41 AM] Sirius 17: lol
    [10:28:03 AM] Sirius 17: yes i dont understand how they can sit there and tell bald faced lies like this
    [10:28:08 AM] Sirius 17: money
    [10:28:21 AM] Shiloh: She believes her own 'insights'
    [10:28:32 AM] Sirius 17: sure
    [10:28:39 AM] Shiloh: She is being 'interviewed' by a fellow believer now, isn't she
    [10:28:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes, weber, he is a nutcase
    [10:29:05 AM] Shiloh: This is the inner ego self attraction I have indicated
    [10:30:03 AM] Shiloh: The 'poor of spirit' of the Mount of Olives sermon addresses the opposite in the inner ego at war with itself but hencefore allowing outer ego unification
    [10:30:51 AM] Shiloh: The Nabsers are full of their atttacking 'outer ego' as arrogance, yet fail to see their inner ego making them 'feel good' with Nabs
    [10:31:08 AM] Sirius 17: what is it with these people always bashing on reptilans? omg they have no idea they harbor a reptilian brainstem obviously lol
    [10:31:52 AM] Shiloh: It IS and represents the only 'danger' to their human egocentric agendas
    [10:31:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes the war with the memes is plainly visible with these groups because like you said you can see their conflict
    [10:32:27 AM] Shiloh: The human mind is the only 'Devil' human thinking and perception and it is this what Jesus meant when talking about 'The Devil'
    [10:33:14 AM] Shiloh: The memewars are the 'principalities at high places' of paul's letter
    [10:34:02 AM] Shiloh:

    Ephesians 6:11-13 - King James Version (KJV)

    11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    [10:34:14 AM] Sirius 17: you know this annuaki crap was all started by Sitchens BS
    [10:34:33 AM] Sirius 17: pseudo history
    [10:34:35 AM] Shiloh: All those are MANMDE, created by nutcases such as Sherry shriner and those two in the video
    [10:35:18 AM] Shiloh: Yes, he meant well, but interpreted the mesopotamian records to his own understanding.
    [10:35:34 AM] Sirius 17: yes he did not have a deep enough understanding of the archetypes
    [10:35:59 AM] Shiloh: And because this was never checked rigorously, he got away with his interpretations until the worldwide web opened up his selfmade 'Pandora's Box'
    [10:36:21 AM] Sirius 17: oh he interpreted it solely to sell millions of books which he did, he was very rich off his books
    [10:36:52 AM] Sirius 17: well who the hell can read sumerian, very few people in the world could argue with it
    [10:37:08 AM] Sirius 17: there are a handful of experts in cuniform
    [10:37:18 AM] Sirius 17: like one hand
    [10:37:20 AM] Sirius 17: lol
    [10:37:40 AM] Shiloh: Then many nabsers, mainly Barbara Hand-Clow and co, but also including Marciniak, Wilcock and the Avalonians bought Sitchin 'line and anchor' and their ego investments then prevented them to distance themselves from the obvious BS then surfacing under closer scrutiny and discernments
    [10:37:45 AM] Sirius 17: floppy ears and all
    [10:37:57 AM] Shiloh: It is a humungous monster memeplex
    [10:38:14 AM] Shiloh: It has become a monstrous memeplex
    [10:38:23 AM] Sirius 17: omg the lie has gotten so huge now it is out of control
    [10:38:24 AM] Sirius 17: it has
    [10:38:35 AM] Sirius 17: it is truly one big ass mother of a pink elephant
    [10:38:42 AM] Sirius 17: HUGE
    [10:38:47 AM] Sirius 17: David Icke has done a lot to foster it too with his Credo Mutwa and ilk
    [10:39:01 AM] Sirius 17: it has made him famous too
    [10:39:15 AM] Sirius 17: its too bad really because when he first came out he had such good stuff
    [10:39:26 AM] Sirius 17: no one took him seriously
    [10:39:26 AM] Shiloh: yes he is another one, who started with a real gnosis then going whacko in a big way with the publicity and nabs exposure
    [10:39:35 AM] Sirius 17: yes he got bought out
    [10:39:39 AM] Sirius 17: like bill and kerry
    [10:40:03 AM] Sirius 17: because it is a money maker in the nabs world
    [10:40:09 AM] Shiloh: Dont mention them. They have become the antithesis of what they were at the beginning
    [10:40:10 AM] Sirius 17: and they all have to stick to the lie now
    [10:40:36 AM] Shiloh: Kerry and Bill are obnoxious in their 'know better' grandstandings
    [10:40:47 AM] Sirius 17: so the whole nabser community is in cahoots to support the Big Pink Elephant at every level
    [10:41:13 AM] Shiloh: Dawkins 'Spaghetti Monster' yes. And you know what I think of Dawkins
    [10:41:38 AM] Sirius 17: lol yes
    [10:41:55 AM] Sirius 17: atheist from hell he is
    [10:42:31 AM] Shiloh: This is the sadness about people like oxy and also mudra and carol and magamud. He has a good heart, but has been deceived no end by listening to moronic disinformers
    [10:42:54 AM] Sirius 17: true, and now he is in deep shi20 mentally because of it
    [10:43:01 AM] Sirius 17: he cannot balance
    [10:43:36 AM] Sirius 17: having lost the ability to decern anything but the sound of his own questions and answers
    [10:43:55 AM] Sirius 17: he is like a one man band playing to himself
    [10:44:02 AM] Shiloh: He is paranoid with fear of the human made thoughtforms, charged with emotional energy and an energy he feeds with his behaviourism and thinking
    [10:44:22 AM] Sirius 17: indeed, highly paranoid
    [10:44:46 AM] Shiloh: You can blame the disinformation channels like this video above for this
    [10:45:17 AM] Sirius 17: god this thing is horrible
    [10:45:55 AM] Shiloh: Why I shared it. I thought of it as just another so so thing; but realised this is intense
    [10:46:01 AM] Sirius 17: blaming a non-existant ghost race of ETs for creating the slave system of this world and feudalism we all experience
    [10:46:02 AM] Shiloh: Many will fall for it
    [10:46:04 AM] Sirius 17: humans are dumb
    [10:46:13 AM] Shiloh: Lol no comment
    [10:46:16 AM] Sirius 17: cannot see their own responsiblity in anything
    [10:46:43 AM] Sirius 17: yes i see this crap on fb alot
    [10:47:01 AM] Sirius 17: reptilian this, annunaki that..blah blah
    [10:47:12 AM] Sirius 17: finger pointers the whole lot of them
    [10:47:18 AM] Sirius 17: lairs
    i freaking hate people who lie through their teeth
    [10:49:29 AM] Sirius 17: yeah i cant watch anymore of this crap
    [10:49:34 AM] Sirius 17: it is horrible
    [10:49:54 AM] Sirius 17: she is using her so called famous name as an Eisenhower to spread this shit
    [10:50:59 AM] Sirius 17:

    [10:51:13 AM] Sirius 17: watching something like this would be far more informative
    [10:51:54 AM] Shiloh: Yes alternatives for balance are required. But what nabser will consider 'balance'?
    [10:53:25 AM] Sirius 17: lol
    [10:54:42 AM] Sirius 17: “Don't walk in my head with your dirty feet.”
    ― Leo Buscaglia, Living Loving and Learning
    [10:54:45 AM] Sirius 17: i like this
    [10:55:06 AM] Shiloh: Later on they bring in bible prophecy and ask Eisenhower for 'expert opinion' - hilarious
    [10:55:40 AM] Sirius 17: i can't believe your still watching
    [10:55:43 AM] Sirius 17: lol
    [10:56:03 AM] Shiloh: There is just one Cosmic Logos for ALL the Worlds and the ETs, all ETs are well aware of it
    [10:56:22 AM] Shiloh: I will add it to the Solomon message
    [10:57:26 AM] Shiloh: The 'possessed' shudder in its presence, as they recognise it across all timelines and spacial locations
    [10:58:12 AM] Sirius 17: “Love is always bestowed as a gift - freely, willingly and without expectation. We don't love to be loved; we love to love.”
    ― Leo Buscaglia
    [10:58:36 AM] Shiloh: The first 'devil' Jesus encountered, returning from the '40 day wilderness' on his way to the Temple to confront the 'know it all' scribes illustrated this
    [10:59:30 AM] Sirius 17: “Our talents are the gift that God gives to us... What we make of our talents is our gift back to God”
    ― Leo Buscaglia

    [10:59:40 AM] Shiloh:

    Mark 1:23-25 - King James Version (KJV)

    23 And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
    24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
    25 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.

    [10:59:52 AM] Sirius 17: yes true, sorry , i don't mean to be off topic, some of these quotes are really good
    [11:01:13 AM] Shiloh:

    Matthew 12:42-45 -King James Version (KJV)

    42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
    43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
    44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
    45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

    [11:01:20 AM] Sirius 17: watch that video i linked from 15 mins mark lol
    [11:01:22 AM] Shiloh: See the SEVEN again!?
    [11:01:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [11:02:34 AM] Shiloh: The Nabsers are just like this, feeling so clean and 'sanctified' inside as the Nirvana within, yet their 'clean sweepings' have become more dirty than before the witch's broom became engaged
    [11:02:52 AM] Shiloh: And they cant see themselves!

    Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

    (34) Jesus said, "If a blind man leads a blind man, they will both fall into a pit."

    [11:07:57 AM] Sirius 17: yes and it is a vicious circle
    [11:08:50 AM] Sirius 17:

    Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

    (43) His disciples said to him, "Who are you, that you should say these things to us?"
    "You do not realize who I am from what I say to you, but you have become like the Jews, for they (either) love the tree and hate its fruit (or) love the fruit and hate the tree."

    [11:09:56 AM] Shiloh: Now Eisenhower is also an expert on the 'gnostic gospels' and the creation mythology of the archons. It gets better and better and yes of course, it is all Lucifer's fault.
    [11:09:57 AM] Sirius 17: describes nabsers in a nutshell, never happy with the truth but need to embellish crap
    [11:10:09 AM] Sirius 17: lol
    [11:10:56 AM] Shiloh: This chick must have studied all this esoterica a lot. She should be a 'perfect match' for someone like me. Dont you think?
    [11:11:42 AM] Sirius 17: well you could certianly set her straight
    [11:12:23 AM] Shiloh: Do I find her attractive - mindwise or bodiwise?
    [11:12:50 AM] Shiloh: Neither - And - Or - Nor?
    [11:12:52 AM] Sirius 17: i don't know, i would hope not
    [11:13:05 AM] Shiloh: I shall refrain from commenting.
    [11:13:05 AM] Sirius 17: maybe mindwise
    [11:13:16 AM] Shiloh: You are a joker at times
    [11:13:20 AM] Sirius 17: lol
    [11:13:28 AM] Sirius 17: i am
    [11:13:54 AM] Shiloh: A good example to show how the human bred intelligence can become misused and misguided
    [11:14:27 AM] Sirius 17: where did you find this video?
    [11:14:40 AM] Sirius 17: did someone turn you on to it or you stumbled upon it?
    [11:14:41 AM] Shiloh: Oxy posted it on Moa
    [11:14:57 AM] Sirius 17: lol omg DONT read his crap Tony
    [11:15:06 AM] Sirius 17: you will get sucked in
    [11:15:43 AM] Shiloh: I might indeed. I might find Sherry Shriner, the granddaughter of King David irresistable
    [11:16:07 AM] Sirius 17: hahaha
    [11:16:22 AM] Sirius 17: of course, she is King Davids grandaughter, whynot
    [11:16:26 AM] Shiloh: Then I might desire her to become 'cored' with me
    [11:16:52 AM] Shiloh: Well David was the father of Solomon and I am 'in love' with Solomon's daughter
    [11:17:13 AM] Shiloh: The Daughter of Woman Sophia

    [11:18:35 AM] Shiloh:

    Daniel 11:17

    He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.

    [11:19:07 AM] Shiloh: There is Sherry Shriner encoded in the Book of Daniel - right here. I wonder if Sherry knows about this.
    [11:19:21 AM] Sirius 17: Laura Magdalene Eisenhower...this chick has the right middle name anyhow
    [11:21:36 AM] Shiloh: Yes Mary Magdalene aka CJ is a descendent of the 'Harlot Line of the Logos' in Tamar and Rachab and Ruth and Bathsheba encoded in Matthew.1

    Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

    (105) Jesus said, "He who knows the father and the mother will be called the son of a harlot."

    [11:44:41 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7225-laura-magdalene-eisenhower-et-invasion-has-already-occurred-and-governments-do-not-want-us-to-know

    [11:44:49 AM] Sirius 17: oh it looks like mudra posted it first
    [11:48:18 AM] Shiloh: Well you know I like mudra a lot but she is as nabsey as they come in many ways
    [11:48:38 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [11:48:48 AM] Sirius 17: i did not like dd attacking her
    [11:49:11 AM] Sirius 17: Mudra is very kind
    [11:49:22 AM] Sirius 17: she is a gentle soul
    [11:49:38 AM] Sirius 17: regardless of her nabs involvement
    [11:52:46 AM] Shiloh: Yes this was unwarranted
    [11:53:40 AM] Sirius 17: dd has a very cruel side
    [11:53:55 AM] Sirius 17: it is a big turn off for me
    [11:54:35 AM] Shiloh: It stems from an inner fearsomeness and a subconscious state of ire
    [11:55:29 AM] Shiloh: This would be shared by all humans to varying degrees and expressions
    [11:55:46 AM] Sirius 17: yes the antichrist in all of us
    [11:56:08 AM] Shiloh: Precisely as the inner mirror of the 'comfort zones' both mental and emotional psychosomatic and so biophysically manifestable

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    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth


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    empty. Re: Operation Scrambleweb

    empty. JesterTerrestrial on Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:39 pm

    Jeffery Pritchett
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    How in the phuck is the power bill 135 bucks this month? When for the last few months its been 300 plus from running the heat. Though we stopped using the heat but still run window A/C units sometimes. Its never been that low ever. Suddenly everybody in my area is getting 135 buck bills when they were price gouged the whole winter. lol Sounds like someone got busted. Pricks. Hopefully it stays this low. Would be a life saver.
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    Shannon Roach Mines lower too. It was running over 14 a day and this past week it was 4 a day. That's a lil fishy to me.
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    Thomas Finley Who is your energy supplier? Ask for a breakdown of your monthly charges and ask for a refund.
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    Jeffery Pritchett The bill is in my mom's name here for some reason and she told my brother yesterday about the bill here so we could pay it. I will find out if anyone has found out anything. Because something definitely ain't right.
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    Thomas Finley Enjoy your lower rates while you can.
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    John Ervin Same problem in virginia...I am using less power than last year but bills are more...
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    Michael Toldnes This is what you get for not listening to us last time we were here!!! TESLA AND TWAIN!!! WE TRIED TO GIVE THIS WORLD FREE ENERGY!!! GUESS EVERYONE CONTENT CRYING ABOUT THEIR HYDRO BILLS!!!
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    Darth Vindex That´s what happens when you vote for idiots and then have them placed into power over your country. THE RESULT BECOMES MORE IDIOCITY.
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    Darth Vindex And you had intended ´Obama´to do WHAT for you?
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    Michael Toldnes Tell Obama to get the hell out of the way of gods army who is rebuilding heaven and the kingdom of Camelot! THAT IS A DIRECT ORDER TO CEASE AND DESIST ISSUED SEVERAL TIMES AND IS EXTRA TERRESTRIAL IN NATURE!!! YOU WANT ET CONTACT!!! WHATS UP MOTHER Ooopsey!!! HERE I AM!!! AND I ONLY GET LOUDER!!!
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    Darth Vindex Repent lest thou be smitten!
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    Michael Toldnes lol basically
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    Darth Vindex This is not about god´s army. If I remember right god´s army got bored and everybody got resigned and the Kingdom of Heaven is free of armies - ok there´s still some fireant armies left.
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    Darth Vindex Oh please.
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    Darth Vindex You mean you and your other personalities then?
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    Michael Toldnes No me and my soul family
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    Darth Vindex I´ve got a bunch of imaginary friends and they get recycled all the time. Some of them are Word diaries I put into the recycle bin....
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    Darth Vindex If........you´ve got a family of souls...........DOESN´T THAT MAKE YOU INTO A SPLIT PERSONALITY?
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    Michael Toldnes Ive got a bunch of research and data and ancient alien technology!
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    Darth Vindex You´ve got technology from old immigrants? Wow? Like from immigrants living in the 1890´s? I´d love to see it!!
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    Darth Vindex Is any of it steam power?
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    Michael Toldnes lol ill split the truth from the facts and weigh your entire planets future in my sclaes using high dragon magic!
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    Darth Vindex Mate let me know if you see a dragon so I can get lizard meat for free....
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    Michael Toldnes not old immigrants your injection of implied connections is incorrect!
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    Darth Vindex WTF?
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    Michael Toldnes yes! Now we are gettung somewhere! WTF!
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    Darth Vindex I knew it - you are a split personality case after all. Wow!
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    Michael Toldnes What is electricity!
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    Darth Vindex Nice to meet you mate.
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    Michael Toldnes sure enjoy voting for idiots The star seeds are leaving your dimension and we may not return
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    Michael Toldnes Want a life saver!!! Try Tesla andTwain!!! INNOVATION STATION TEAM!!! We already explained free energy and nobody want it so hope your able to deal with the war torn oil and drug based militant flase flag trynay fraud criminal bankster gangs running your planet into the ground! THE SHIP IS SINKING!!! HUMANITY IS FAILIG!!! YOUR FAILING!!!
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    Jeffery Pritchett Did two exceptional mental patients decide to hijack my post? lmao
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    Darth Vindex They probably belong to Michael´s awesome army of imaginary friends.
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    Darth Vindex People who ask questions like ´what is electricity´on an internet page scare me......
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    Darrell Ortiz they was charging you without looking at meter,and somebody finally got a reading and they owed you some payback
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    Michael Toldnes just getting in on the post...you said your hydro bill is outrageous and I told you we had spent many times trying to bring forth my teams advanced technology and we are back to finish our work from the last life time. I remember what JP Morgan did to my team! No wonder they are jumping to their death as the old world order crashes and burns for stealing what was given to you from the most advanced minds in the universe! Not trying to hijack anything and do not acknowledge the lame mental psycho bable used! I have been in the exopolitics game long enough to know how to stand my ground despite cheap shots and attacks on my awesome army of god! No problem I am used to getting crucified and having our data stolen! Its the reason your all stuck in a police state with a religiosity overtone paying your hydro bills with your fiat money! The scales are tilted the game is rigged! The power companies don't care about you! They are robbing you of your true power and if you don't take a stand you'll be bitching and crying about this in ten years from now as the nuclear crisis spins out of control! NUKES ARE FORBIDDEN!!! THESE ARE THE WORDS OF THE EXTRA TERRESTRAIL STAR SEEDS!!! IF YOU CAN NOT EXPLAIN ENERGY AND CAN NOT CONTROL THE WASTE BY PRODUCT THEN YOU DO NOT OWN IT!!! TESLA IS THE MASTER OF LIGHTNING!!! WHAT IS SCARY IS THE FACT THAT HERE WE ARE AGAIN AT THE DAWN OF A GOLDEN AGE AND THIS WORLD IS STILL SLAVES TO COMBUSTION OF OIL AND PLUTONIUM!!! HAVE YOU BURNED ALL THE TREES DOWN YET OR HAVE YOU FIGURED OUT HOW TO GENERATE HEAT WITH SOUND WAVES?! DAMN THESE HYDRO COMPANIES!!! THE ELECTROMAGNETIC POLLUTION FROM YOUR OVERHEAD WIRES IS Xxxxxxxx WITH THE EARTH GRID!!! THE PLANET IS ILL AND DRAGON MAGIC WILL SMASH YOU!!! HAVE A NICE DAY MERLIN JT! MAAT
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  5. shiloh za-rah

    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

    Mother Mary ~ Let It Be

    In honor of this commemorated weekend on the day Good Friday ~ for faith and graduated wisdom I remember my mother showing me the Pieta by Michelangelo. As a child I was so moved by this graceful yet sorrowful sculpture.

    I didn't understand what it spoke to. Will we ever understand?

    "for thought they may be parted ~ There is still a chance that they will see..." Let it be.


    There will be an answer.

    That's about all I have to say. For my own part ~ Just reflect and Let it be.

    Happy Easter Weekend friends.

    When the night has come
    And the land is dark
    And the moon is the only light we'll see
    No I won't be afraid
    Oh, I won't be afraid
    Just as long as you stand, stand by me


    If the sky that we look upon
    Should tumble and fall
    All the mountains should crumble to the sea
    I won't cry, I won't cry
    No, I won't shed a tear
    Just as long as you stand, stand by me



    Good Friday, April 18th, 2014 - Anniversarial Day of Friday, March 30th, 31AD - Jerusalem and day of the construction of the 3rd Temple of Solomon

    John 2:19-21 - King James Version (KJV)

    19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
    20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
    21 But he spake of the temple of his body.



    Planetary Body of Gaea Uranus as Macrocosm for a StarHuman Body of JCCJ as Microcosm for a Universal Body as Cosmos AbbABaaB

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    Astronomers Have Found the First Earth-Sized, Habitable Zone Planet

    April 18th, 2014 - Good Friday of Old as New Temple-Merkabah-Morph Construction

    O 183mxbubiw30b.
    Robert T. Gonzalez


    Scientists today announced the discovery of Kepler-186f, a faraway planet that's perhaps the most Earth-like yet discovered. It's the same size as our home world, and at the right distance from its parent star to have liquid water. So, have we at last discovered Earth 2?

    Above: An artist's conception of Kepler-186f Credit: NASA Ames/SETI Institute/JPL-Caltech

    "The ultimate goal of all this searching for exoplanets – the real reason we're doing this – is to answer the question 'are we alone?'" So says Tom Barclay, a research scientist working with NASA's planet-hunting Kepler mission, and co-author of the paper recounting the discovery of Kepler-186f, published in today's issue of Science.

    Barclay says that the answer to that big, ultimate question is almost certainly contained in the answers to a host of smaller ones, starting with: Are there other places out there like Earth? Today, Barclay tells us, it's clearer than ever that "the answer to that question is 'Yes.'"

    A Habitable World


    NASA has discovered the most Earth-like planets yet
    NASA's Kepler mission has discovered a trio of distant planets that look remarkably like our own. Belonging to solar systems located 1,200 and… Read…

    Kepler-186f shares a number of key characteristics with our home planet. For starters, it's roughly the same size. Size is important when it comes to planets. Astronomers suspect that smaller bodies tend to be more rocky, and less gaseous, than larger worlds. How does Kepler-186f rank relative to the exoplanets we've discovered to date? When Kepler scientists announced a year ago the discovery of Kepler-62f, a planet roughly 40% bigger than Earth, they called it one of the most similar objects to Earth yet discovered. Kepler-186f, by comparison, is a mere 10% bigger than Earth. In fact, of the five planets that make up the Kepler-186 system, not a single one of them possesses a radius more than 1.5-times that of our home planet.


    Kepler's Latest Exoplanet Hoard, Graphed
    Here's some impressive planetary perspective: Last Wednesday, NASA's Kepler mission announced the discovery of 715 newly confirmed… Read…

    But planets that are Earth-sized (and smaller) have been detected before. What really sets Kepler-186f apart is its distance from its parent star. The outermost planet in its solar neighborhood, Kepler-186f orbits at the edges of what astronomers call the "habitable zone" of its star, i.e. the region around a star within which planets can potentially host liquid water and, scientists believe, life.
    For a planet to be habitable, it must engage in something of a balancing act. It needs enough solar radiation to keep its water in a liquid state, while still remaining distant enough to keep that water from vaporizing outright. There are other things that can dictate whether a planet can host water – how much radiation its atmosphere lets through, for example – but it's this not-too-much, not-too-little business that astronomers see as the biggest key to habitability (and why the habitable zone is known colloquially as the "Goldilocks Zone").


    A Very Different Sun

    Barclay says there's one major characteristic Kepler-186f doesn't share with Earth. In Kepler-186's size and orbital distance, he says, "we have two things that we would need to call it an Earth twin," but a true twin, Barclay says, would orbit a Sun-like star. Kepler-186f orbits an M-dwarf, a class of star cooler and dimmer than our own. If you want to get technical, Barclay says, Kepler-186f "isn't so much an Earth-twin as it is an Earth cousin."

    Above: Artist Danielle Futsellar's conception of Kepler-186f


    How can we possibly guess what an exoplanet's atmosphere is like?
    The transit-method of exoplanet-detection is pretty straightforward, conceptually: First you find a distant star. If the light from it dims, it could … Read…

    But these two cousins could still look an awful lot alike. Barclay says that because Kepler-186f receives roughly one-third the energy that we do on Earth, the light it receives would appear redder, its sun a few shades oranger than our own. We don't know if the planet has an atmosphere, but, assuming the gases surrounding it are similar to those enveloping Earth, its skies would appear slightly duller than what we're used to here at home. A sunny day on Kepler-186f, he says, would look similar to a day here on Earth about an hour before sunset.

    Two Out of Three Isn't Bad

    Kepler's mission is to find planets that meet three criteria: they must be rocky, Earth-like worlds; they must be within habitable zones; and they must have stars like our own Sun. A find like Kepler-186f, which meets two of those three criteria, suggests the search for Earth 2.0 could be nearing its end. "What we're seeing more and more is that there are places that do look like Earth out there, that remind us of home," says Barclay.
    So what's the holdup on that third criterion? According to Barclay, Earth-like planets orbiting Sun-like stars take longer to identify and confirm than those orbiting relatively wimpy stars like M-dwarfs. There are two big reasons for this. The first is that Kepler detects exoplanets by measuring how much light they block when they orbit in front of their parent stars. Astronomers call this a "transit."


    When a planet transits its parent star, Kepler detects a brief dip in the star's light – but the ratio of planet size to star size affects how obvious that signal is. Imagine a tennis ball flying across the face of one of those big, honking prison spotlights. Now imagine that same tennis ball flying across the face of a cheapo, handheld flashlight. Bigger, brighter stars are like the prison light, while smaller, cooler ones (like M-dwarfs) are more like the handheld; if you fix the size of the planet and shrink the the size of the star, the signal goes up, making its orbiting planets easier for Kepler to detect.


    Above: The five planets of the Kepler-186 system orbit at a range of periods and distances, which Kepler observes by monitoring dips in the brightness of their parent star. Credit: Sean Raymond

    Two Billion Reasons Why We're About to Find Earth 2

    Planet-hunting scientists announced today that 22% of sunlike stars in the Milky Way are orbited by potentially habitable, Earth-size worlds. This… Read…

    The second reason is that cooler stars tend to have planets with smaller orbits. A smaller orbit means you can spot more transits in a smaller window of time, and say with greater certainty that the signals you're picking up are, in fact, attributable to orbiting planets. Kepler might expect to see an Earth-like planet transit a Sun-like star roughly once every 365 days. The scientists observing Kepler-186f saw it pass before its parent star at more than twice that frequency. Remember: Kepler's only been in orbit since 2009. In a few years, we could be up to our ears in planets that meet all three of the criteria laid out above. In fact, astronomers have made it clear that they expect this. It's really just a matter of time.

    All that being said, it's unlikely anyone reading this will ever set foot on Kepler-186f. At 500 light years away, it's not exactly in our backyard, cosmically speaking. But it is a landmark discovery, nonetheless – and there's no telling what we'll find tomorrow.
    Read the full details on Kepler-186f, and the rest of the Kepler-186 system, in today's issue of Science.
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    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

    A Planetary Body of Gaea Uranus as Macrocosm for a StarHuman Body of JCCJ as Microcosm for a Universal Body as Cosmos AbbABaaB---JCCJ---HeSheSheHe = StarHuman Twin Eternal

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    Astronomers Have Found the First Earth-Sized, Habitable Zone Planet
    April 18th, 2014 - Good Friday of Old as New Temple-Merkabah-Morph Construction

    Robert T. Gonzalez
    O 183mxbubiw30b.
    Robert T. Gonzalez

    Scientists today announced the discovery of Kepler-186f, a faraway planet that's perhaps the most Earth-like yet discovered. It's the same size as our home world, and at the right distance from its parent star to have liquid water. So, have we at last discovered Earth 2?
    Above: An artist's conception of Kepler-186f Credit: NASA Ames/SETI Institute/JPL-CalTech

    "The ultimate goal of all this searching for exoplanets – the real reason we're doing this – is to answer the question 'are we alone?'" So says Tom Barclay, a research scientist working with NASA's planet-hunting Kepler mission, and co-author of the paper recounting the discovery of Kepler-186f, published in today's issue of Science.
    Barclay says that the answer to that big, ultimate question is almost certainly contained in the answers to a host of smaller ones, starting with: Are there other places out there like Earth? Today, Barclay tells us, it's clearer than ever that "the answer to that question is 'Yes.'"

    A Habitable World

    NASA has discovered the most Earth-like planets yet

    NASA's Kepler mission has discovered a trio of distant planets that look remarkably like our own. Belonging to solar systems located 1,200 and… Read…
    Kepler-186f shares a number of key characteristics with our home planet. For starters, it's roughly the same size. Size is important when it comes to planets. Astronomers suspect that smaller bodies tend to be more rocky, and less gaseous, than larger worlds. How does Kepler-186f rank relative to the exoplanets we've discovered to date? When Kepler scientists announced a year ago the discovery of Kepler-62f, a planet roughly 40% bigger than Earth, they called it one of the most similar objects to Earth yet discovered. Kepler-186f, by comparison, is a mere 10% bigger than Earth. In fact, of the five planets that make up the Kepler-186 system, not a single one of them possesses a radius more than 1.5-times that of our home planet.


    Kepler's Latest Exoplanet Hoard, Graphed

    Here's some impressive planetary perspective: Last Wednesday, NASA's Kepler mission announced the discovery of 715 newly confirmed… Read…
    But planets that are Earth-sized (and smaller) have been detected before. What really sets Kepler-186f apart is its distance from its parent star. The outermost planet in its solar neighborhood, Kepler-186f orbits at the edges of what astronomers call the "habitable zone" of its star, i.e. the region around a star within which planets can potentially host liquid water and, scientists believe, life.
    For a planet to be habitable, it must engage in something of a balancing act. It needs enough solar radiation to keep its water in a liquid state, while still remaining distant enough to keep that water from vaporizing outright. There are other things that can dictate whether a planet can host water – how much radiation its atmosphere lets through, for example – but it's this not-too-much, not-too-little business that astronomers see as the biggest key to habitability (and why the habitable zone is known colloquially as the "Goldilocks Zone").

    A Very Different Sun

    Barclay says there's one major characteristic Kepler-186f doesn't share with Earth. In Kepler-186's size and orbital distance, he says, "we have two things that we would need to call it an Earth twin," but a true twin, Barclay says, would orbit a Sun-like star. Kepler-186f orbits an M-dwarf, a class of star cooler and dimmer than our own. If you want to get technical, Barclay says, Kepler-186f "isn't so much an Earth-twin as it is an Earth cousin."
    Above: Artist Danielle Futsellar's conception of Kepler-186f


    How can we possibly guess what an exoplanet's atmosphere is like?

    The transit-method of exoplanet-detection is pretty straightforward, conceptually: First you find a distant star. If the light from it dims, it could … Read…
    But these two cousins could still look an awful lot alike. Barclay says that because Kepler-186f receives roughly one-third the energy that we do on Earth, the light it receives would appear redder, its sun a few shades oranger than our own. We don't know if the planet has an atmosphere, but, assuming the gases surrounding it are similar to those enveloping Earth, its skies would appear slightly duller than what we're used to here at home. A sunny day on Kepler-186f, he says, would look similar to a day here on Earth about an hour before sunset.

    Two Out of Three Isn't Bad

    Kepler's mission is to find planets that meet three criteria: they must be rocky, Earth-like worlds; they must be within habitable zones; and they must have stars like our own Sun. A find like Kepler-186f, which meets two of those three criteria, suggests the search for Earth 2.0 could be nearing its end. "What we're seeing more and more is that there are places that do look like Earth out there, that remind us of home," says Barclay.
    So what's the holdup on that third criterion? According to Barclay, Earth-like planets orbiting Sun-like stars take longer to identify and confirm than those orbiting relatively wimpy stars like M-dwarfs. There are two big reasons for this. The first is that Kepler detects exoplanets by measuring how much light they block when they orbit in front of their parent stars. Astronomers call this a "transit."

    When a planet transits its parent star, Kepler detects a brief dip in the star's light – but the ratio of planet size to star size affects how obvious that signal is. Imagine a tennis ball flying across the face of one of those big, honking prison spotlights. Now imagine that same tennis ball flying across the face of a cheapo, handheld flashlight. Bigger, brighter stars are like the prison light, while smaller, cooler ones (like M-dwarfs) are more like the handheld; if you fix the size of the planet and shrink the the size of the star, the signal goes up, making its orbiting planets easier for Kepler to detect.

    Above: The five planets of the Kepler-186 system orbit at a range of periods and distances, which Kepler observes by monitoring dips in the brightness of their parent star. Credit: Sean Raymond

    Two Billion Reasons Why We're About to Find Earth 2

    Planet-hunting scientists announced today that 22% of sunlike stars in the Milky Way are orbited by potentially habitable, Earth-size worlds. This… Read…
    The second reason is that cooler stars tend to have planets with smaller orbits. A smaller orbit means you can spot more transits in a smaller window of time, and say with greater certainty that the signals you're picking up are, in fact, attributable to orbiting planets. Kepler might expect to see an Earth-like planet transit a Sun-like star roughly once every 365 days. The scientists observing Kepler-186f saw it pass before its parent star at more than twice that frequency. Remember: Kepler's only been in orbit since 2009. In a few years, we could be up to our ears in planets that meet all three of the criteria laid out above. In fact, astronomers have made it clear that they expect this. It's really just a matter of time.
    All that being said, it's unlikely anyone reading this will ever set foot on Kepler-186f. At 500 light years away, it's not exactly in our backyard, cosmically speaking. But it is a landmark discovery, nonetheless – and there's no telling what we'll find tomorrow.

    Read the full details on Kepler-186f, and the rest of the Kepler-186 system, in today's issue of Science.


    A Planetary Body of Gaea Uranus as Macrocosm for a StarHuman Body of JCCJ as Microcosm
    for a Universal Body as Cosmos AbbABaaB---JCCJ---HeSheSheHe = StarHuman Twin Eternal

    ravenstar1. ravenstar2.


    [9:39:32 PM] Allisiam: so this is the transfiguration, yes?
    [9:40:24 PM] Allisiam: it rained all day and the clouds came in real low
    [9:40:46 PM] Allisiam: just before sunset the sun came through everything was in a golden light
    [9:40:53 PM] Allisiam: i have never seen anything like it
    [9:41:10 PM] Allisiam: it was so bright i went outside and thought it was a ship
    [9:41:38 PM] Allisiam: it looked very alien this light
    [9:42:25 PM] Allisiam: it was beautiful
    [9:56:06 PM] Shiloh: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7103p15-operation-scrambleweb#102856
    [9:57:10 PM] Allisiam: yes i was looking at it on spruz just now
    [9:58:10 PM] Allisiam: i saw brook's reply this morning
    [9:58:23 PM] Allisiam: she put something on fb and then i saw it on moa
    [9:58:32 PM] Allisiam: it was nice
    [10:05:28 PM] Shiloh: It fits see my titling?
    [10:05:44 PM] Allisiam: yes
    [10:06:05 PM] Shiloh: Planetary Body of Gaea Uranus as Macrocosm for a StarHuman Body of JCCJ as Microcosm
    for a Universal Body as Cosmos AbbABaaB

    Shared by Barbara Maat

    Astronomers Have Found the First Earth-Sized, Habitable Zone Planet

    2014 - Good Friday of Old as New Temple-Merkabah-Morph Construction

    [10:06:48 PM] Allisiam: yes Earth 2 lol
    [10:07:17 PM] Allisiam: well i thought the discovery was pretty synchronous
    [10:08:11 PM] Allisiam: even the 186 f
    [10:08:31 PM] Allisiam:

    (86) Jesus said, "The foxes have their holes and the birds have their nests, but the son of man has no place to lay his head and rest."
    [10:08:47 PM] Allisiam:
    (87) Jesus said, "Wretched is the body that is dependant upon a body, and wretched is the soul that is dependent on these two."

    [10:09:40 PM] Allisiam: and f=6
    [10:11:21 PM] Allisiam:

    186f=1+8+6+6=21 =

    (21) Mary said to Jesus, "Whom are your disciples like?"
    He said, "They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Let us have back our field.' They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them. Therefore I say, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let him dig through into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. You, then, be on your guard against the world. Arm yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will (surely) materialize. Let there be among you a man of understanding. When the grain ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."

    [10:12:22 PM] Shiloh: This chart for your mom says, that just as Jesus transfigured in 12 hours on Friday, March 30th, 31AD; so can all old bodies now transform into BodyMinds ergo waveforms from now on in a synchro anniversary

    [10:12:27 PM] Shiloh: You understand this?
    [10:12:47 PM] Allisiam: i think so
    [10:12:59 PM] Shiloh: 3½ days see from death to resurrection and the 3 days of the Body in the tomb, symbolised by Jonah's Whale and the 3 days of the temple rebuilding encoded in John.2 and other places
    [10:13:18 PM] Shiloh: 1½ + 12 hours + 1½
    [10:13:29 PM] Allisiam: yes so Coco will resurrect as did Ripper
    [10:13:51 PM] Shiloh: Their memory of the bodyforms will become WAVED
    [10:14:01 PM] Shiloh: No more body spirit separation
    [10:14:34 PM] Shiloh: The old sick body is gone, but its memory can now transform as a wavebody
    [10:14:51 PM] Shiloh: This is resurrection cosmic
    [10:14:59 PM] Allisiam: yes i gathered that
    [10:15:13 PM] Shiloh: Perhaps you can show this to your mom
    [10:15:29 PM] Shiloh: I added just 4 lines to the charts
    [10:15:41 PM] Allisiam: not sure how to explain wavebody to her though
    [10:15:49 PM] Shiloh: They are on the last pic I sent but not the earlier ones
    [10:16:20 PM] Shiloh: Jesus on Easter Sunday physical yet also metaphysical and no longer limited
    [10:16:46 PM] Shiloh: He could densify and dedensify
    [10:17:03 PM] Allisiam: yes and so will we and the animals right?
    [10:17:05 PM] Shiloh: It can be termed "Electromagnetic Monopolar Matter"
    [10:17:33 PM] Shiloh: Well all I can ascertain is what is written in the gospels
    [10:17:44 PM] Shiloh: All else is still speculation
    [10:17:45 PM] Allisiam: well and you know what you saw
    [10:17:55 PM] Shiloh: But I saw two such bodies
    [10:17:59 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [10:18:27 PM] Allisiam: i saw my own body as Allisiam in my dream/Obe
    [10:18:39 PM] Shiloh: i feel the body memory can transform now and morph
    [10:18:44 PM] Allisiam: i know that is what i saw
    [10:18:51 PM] Allisiam: my immortal form
    [10:18:58 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [10:19:42 PM] Shiloh: 1½ days are required to change darkness into light and then 1½ again to change the lightdark into darklight
    [10:19:49 PM] Shiloh: This is what happened to Jesus
    [10:20:16 PM] Allisiam: in physics terms ?
    [10:20:29 PM] Shiloh: this is the 'Shroud of Turin' mystery
    [10:20:36 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [10:21:06 PM] Shiloh: Old Body into BodyMind on the left meaning Old Darkness singular becomes New LightDark
    [10:21:36 PM] Shiloh: And Old Mind into MindBody on the right meaning Old Lightness becomes New DarkLight
    [10:21:53 PM] Allisiam: and so this weekend and Easter is the revistation of the new past? this is what i am feeling, the death being swallowed up but for all this time because the temple is his body which is of course all of us
    [10:22:17 PM] Shiloh: Yes March 30th, 31AD actually encompassed those 12 hours or half a day as half a night
    [10:22:43 PM] Shiloh: This sort of validates calling it Good Friday, but the death was Wednesday, same as Coco's
    [10:23:14 PM] Allisiam: Mercury day, messenger
    [10:23:31 PM] Shiloh: 'Last Supper' Day so became signed by the Passover Blood Moon of Easter 2014
    [10:23:45 PM] Shiloh: Midweek is Hermes yes
    [10:24:19 PM] Shiloh: The quantum dualism was the transfiguration of the mass-emr yes
    [10:24:42 PM] Shiloh: This is what this inverted holograph physics of the Shroud indicates
    [10:24:59 PM] Allisiam: yes also with its embedded 3-d data
    [10:25:05 PM] Shiloh: yes
    [10:25:06 PM] Allisiam: on a 2-d surface
    [10:25:15 PM] Shiloh: You got it


    [10:25:53 PM] Allisiam: the whole earth is inside Jesus's tomb
    [10:26:00 PM] Shiloh: Indeed
    [10:26:01 PM] Allisiam: i saw this
    [10:26:05 PM] Allisiam: but it is a womb
    [10:26:13 PM] Shiloh: Why I replied to Brook's appropriate memorandum
    [10:27:06 PM] Shiloh: Yes, this is what the Egyptian chambers signify too, the 'sarcophagi of the pharaohs' in a cosmic application of the tombs as wombs between worlds
    [10:27:24 PM] Shiloh: Add this as a reply to this post can you?
    [10:27:42 PM] Allisiam: yes the pyramids are such things
    [10:27:50 PM] Shiloh: It is like a explanation of the 'Shroud of Turin' mystery and as you see, the purpose of the pyramids as 'transition pathways' aka macrowormholes between spacetimes
    [10:27:52 PM] Allisiam: wombs/ships

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    [4:19:04 PM - Good Friday, April 18th, 2014 +10UCT] Shiloh: Lol this started a new page - cool
    [4:25:13 PM] Shiloh: Hmm your video talks about XX chromosomes and virgin birth. He also begins with dating the crucifixion to Friday, April 3rd, 33AD. It occurred Wednesday, March 28th, 31AD. So he is grinding his own axe of belief here.
    You require 72+12=84 hours as 3+½ days to fulfil the scriptural encodings and so you must have 3 full days and as the resurrection occurred Sunday, April 1st, 31AD at 3am Jerusalem time; you can back trace the death of Jesus to 3pm Wednesday afternoon on March 28th, 31AD. This also aligns the passover full moon with a 'Great Sabbath of Unleavened Bread' on the following day of Thursday, March 29th, 31AD and then a 'normal' sabbath on Saturday, March 31st, 31AD
    The 'lunar eclipse' is of course 'timewarped' to this Passover Blood Moon of April 15th, 2014

    [4:26:08 PM] Shiloh: Yes, I like it when he describes actual science
    [4:26:45 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i didn't notice that before and of course he is, but over all he has hit all the main points about the shroud and the head cloth

    [4:27:08 PM] Sirius 17: oh well , i guess you could add a commentary about it
    [4:27:37 PM] Shiloh: Yes we should
    [4:27:54 PM] Shiloh: But we must look at it overall. If this is the only fallacy, then it is ok. If he gets too 'religious', then we use another video
    [4:27:56 PM] Sirius 17: i really have not watched these, i just grabbed a few that looked good
    [4:28:07 PM] Shiloh: Virgin birth is utter BS
    [4:28:15 PM] Sirius 17: of course as we know
    [4:28:23 PM] Shiloh:

    St. Eden James
    1 week ago

    "how could Jesus be a physical descendant from David or Joseph's genealogy if his birth was through a virgin? And wasn't Jesus supposed to return in the appostles generation? Further more, in the gospels it claims that the messiah coming on an ass was a prophecy from the Old Testament, but the rest of this prophecy isn't mentioned where the messiah would go ruling from sea to sea and deafeat the Assyrians."

    [4:28:30 PM] Shiloh: One pertinent and valid comment on that video
    [4:30:15 PM] Shiloh: 7:30 marker is excellent though
    [4:30:30 PM] Shiloh: It it was we have said for decades
    [4:31:16 PM] Sirius 17: i am watching video 1
    [4:31:25 PM] Shiloh: The super gamma frequency is none other than the 'Love Frequency' of the Inflation becoming Big Banged at 3 thousand million billion trillion Hertz and as the fifth and lowest energy superbrane class in the multidimensional universe
    [4:31:41 PM] Sirius 17: i don't know if what he is saying about the blood type is true
    [4:31:54 PM] Shiloh: This is the 'Logos Consciousness' Resonance
    [4:32:00 PM] Sirius 17: if it were double x chromosomes then Jesus would be female
    [4:32:06 PM] Sirius 17: so that is just BS
    [4:32:16 PM] Shiloh: I dont like the invocation of blood type. It is irrelevant. He is pushing scriptural literalism here and this spoils the overall validity of his research
    [4:32:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is and some people who are obsessed about blood types ect will go nuts over this
    [4:32:57 PM] Shiloh: Yes and he is as the Logos-Twin, because MM or CJ is a female but one X in any female is a disguised Y anyhow
    [4:33:27 PM] Shiloh: We keep the videos but add this descriptor and caveat
    [4:33:59 PM] Shiloh: I really like the 'busting' of the electromagnetic spectrum - he is closing in on the real physics there
    [4:35:50 PM] Shiloh: The negative to positive imagery is just what I indicated with the dark to light transfiguration. You see this?
    [4:36:29 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [4:36:29 PM] Shiloh: Scientifically it renders the metaphysics as advanced quantum mechanics of the wave-particle duality unified
    [4:37:08 PM] Shiloh: Aka the real science for the resurrection, which also Nostradamus predicted in his futuristic quatrains, where he says that the future science will allow the 'spirit' to reenter the 'dead bodies'. This is related to NDE's of course
    [4:37:58 PM] Sirius 17: at about 6:45 he talks about how the fingers look long and that is because this is like an x-ray image

    [5:02:02 PM] Shiloh: The 'lunar eclipse' is of course 'timewarped' to this Passover Blood Moon of April 15th, 2014
    Can you discern the cunning and subtlety of Abba and his prophets here?

    [5:02:49 PM] Sirius 17: the lunar eclipse
    [5:03:05 PM] Shiloh: Yes the 'darkening of the heavens' in Joel and Genesis and many other places descriptive of the physical heavens serving as signs for prophecy etc
    [5:03:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes it fits the prophecies, i did see that
    [5:04:32 PM] Shiloh: Many historians, both secular and ecclesiastical-theological have and are searching for actual lunar eclipses of the passover full moons in say a timeframe of 28AD to 34AD
    [5:05:54 PM] Shiloh: So anyone stumbling upon this information becomes privvy to some of those 'secrets' of the decoding mechanics of the old prophecies and codes from the Old Testament prophets
    [5:06:24 PM] Sirius 17: the synchro is uncanny really
    [5:06:40 PM] Sirius 17: and you had said you did not even figure in those blood moons
    [5:06:53 PM] Sirius 17: yet there they are in perfect timing
    [5:07:14 PM] Shiloh: I never actually used the Jewish festivals, like Passover and Shabuoth, Trumpets and New Year, but focused on the Christian ones
    [5:07:25 PM] Shiloh: It all fell into synchronicity

    [5:13:34 PM] Shiloh: The passover full moon can be scientifically ascertained to have been on Last Supper Tuesday on March 27th, 31AD at 13:30 UCT and timewarps to Tuesday, April 15th, 2014 at 07:45 UCT
    [5:14:39 PM] Shiloh: This full moon of March 27th, 31AD was followed by Jesus being arrested by the soldiers and the Judas Kiss etc and as described in the gospels just after the 'Last Supper'. The 'earthquake' also, which he mentions as having been measured by German archaeologists as having occurred between 26AD and 36AD has its statistical median or scientific error-bar centre at 36-5=31=26+5 and so 31AD and not 33AD.

    [5:16:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes even more synchro and timing
    [5:16:38 PM] Sirius 17: have you watched this first video?
    [5:16:49 PM] Sirius 17: it seems pretty good, i think i have seen this one before
    [5:18:08 PM] Shiloh: In the process Juju
    [5:21:19 PM] Shiloh: Anything else you found?
    [5:21:25 PM] Shiloh: Is it ok this video?
    [5:21:43 PM] Sirius 17: no it seems good, it is supportive
    [5:21:52 PM] Shiloh: Good then
    [5:22:08 PM] Shiloh: So only the virgin birth is off?
    [5:22:40 PM] Shiloh: The more science and talk about high frequency and holograms the better
    [5:23:33 PM] Shiloh: About 1:24 minutes ago we reached the exact halfway point of the transfiguration
    [5:23:52 PM] Shiloh: 11 pm your time
    [5:24:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes this video is scientific and talks about the 3-d data
    [5:31:26 PM] Sirius 17: Watch from min 28; they talk about the dating conspiracy
    [5:32:22 PM] Sirius 17: because the area they sampled was rewoven and repaired with newer thread
    [5:35:06 PM] Shiloh: Yes I knew of this and confer with it

    [5:35:48 PM] Shiloh: A valid descriptor and an appropriate place to end the Good Friday Easter message for the Birth of a New World then.

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    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Apr 21st

    30 + 1984 = 2014

    [8:37:00 AM -Monday, April 21st, 2014 +10UCT]Shiloh:
    I had a very quiet easter. Just thinking about Jesus in the tomb and how all of this is meaningful today
    [8:37:39 AM] Shiloh: The Body thing with 44 came back, as I suspected
    [8:37:52 AM] Shiloh: But it appears confused now
    [8:38:27 AM] Shiloh: You could not sleep and I was very restless until earlier this morning, say midnight Easter Sunday Jerusalem time
    [8:38:49 AM] Shiloh: I feel now that this separation has occurred
    [8:39:35 AM] Shiloh:

    Matthew 24:40-42
    King James Version (KJV)

    40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

    [8:39:48 AM] Shiloh: It would link to this
    [8:40:19 AM] Shiloh:

    John 20:16-18
    King James Version (KJV)

    16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
    17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
    18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.

    [8:40:46 AM] Shiloh: Now as you know this was the LAST of MM in any of the gospels except the GOT
    [8:40:57 AM] Shiloh: The females dont play any more parts
    [8:41:48 AM] Shiloh: One can presume MM touched him AFTER the males did, but this is speculation
    [8:43:29 AM] Shiloh: so we are here now in this week after the resurrection:
    [8:43:35 AM] Shiloh:

    Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin

    (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
    Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

    John 20:19-31
    King James Version (KJV)

    19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
    20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
    21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
    22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
    23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
    24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
    25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
    26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
    27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
    28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
    29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
    30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
    31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

    [8:43:50 AM] Shiloh: So nothing is coded for 8 days
    <<< [Sunday, 20 April 2014 7 AM] Kali 666:
    <<< she did not say much to me either
    just a few things here and there
    and about what you wrote
    i don't know what to make of it Tony

    [8:46:46 AM] Shiloh: Sue should be feeling better now and should feel Coco
    [8:53:45 AM] Shiloh: I also reexamined her last words so 1pm my time, Wed, which becomes 11pm Xeia time Tuesday and is 6am Jerusalem time Wednesday Passover day
    [8:54:17 AM] Shiloh: So this time is clearly marked in the gospels in Matthew.26-27
    [8:55:08 AM] Shiloh: It was just after the coc11 crew showing Peter's 3-time betrayal after the arrest of Jesus about Midnight and the Judas Kiss
    [8:55:22 AM Shiloh: So 44 starting this convo was the time of the Judas betrayal
    [8:57:07 AM] Shiloh: From 6am onwards Jesus became convicted by the Sanhedrin and put before Pilate and then tortured and nailed at noon to die 3pm all Jerusalem time. All those times are clearly indicated in the gospel codes
    [9:00:48 AM] Shiloh: The Last Supper started it say 6pm Tuesday Jerusalem time, which was 7 hours after the Blood Moon and so the preparation of the Last Supper is the Blood Moon symbol. Also remember this was at the 'Water Bearer' place aka Aquarius

    [9:01:40 AM] Shiloh:

    Luke 22:9-11
    King James Version (KJV)

    9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
    10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
    11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

    [9:03:11 AM] Shiloh: So in my take now, the Judas betrayal or plan became this preparation and Judas did repent and kill himself just after this coc11 crewing at 6am Wednesday morning Jerusalem time
    [9:03:41 AM] Shiloh: So 44 apparently 'coming good' was the death of Judas
    [9:04:05 AM] Shiloh: here is the code

    [9:04:56 AM] Shiloh:

    Matthew 27.1-10:
    King James Version (KJV)

    1 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:
    2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.
    3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
    4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
    5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
    6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
    7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
    8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.
    9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
    10 And gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord appointed me.

    [9:06:05 AM] Shiloh: Now this to me also could signify the 'eternal damnation' of Judas as sexchaning into Judith as the 12th old disciple of the brotherhood opening the door for a 12-tierd sisterhood in Judith aka Mary Magdalene
    [9:06:20 AM] Shiloh: Because Debbie died the same way
    [9:06:56 AM] Shiloh: So the malemindedness in Judas which is natural, can become transferred to Debbie and so Lassie
    [9:07:16 AM] Shiloh: But Lassie is the 'ascension of MM' making her male in GOT#114
    [9:08:00 AM] Shiloh: And the old 44 is the one no longer required because Lassie is destined to become femaleminded in the MILD with MI and Debbie
    [9:08:25 AM] Shiloh: MI is the 6 hour transform of the Old Body into a New BodyMind
    [9:08:51 AM] Shiloh: Debbie is the 6 hour transform of the Old Mind into a New MindBody
    [9:09:14 AM] Shiloh: This also relates to Xeia's troubles
    [9:09:40 AM] Shiloh: Because it was then, that 8 'dissed' her again
    [9:16:45 AM] Shiloh: In terms of the future new world then, the first 6 hours will integrate every starhuman 's new merkabah or bodypotential, effectively giving it a WAVENATURE
    [9:17:26 AM] Shiloh: This of course is then like the reurrection body as a hybrid between matter and light
    [9:19:22 AM] Shiloh: In my analysis this is cosmic fact now, but of course will have to evolve in tandem with the completion of all the codes and timemarkers The next time markers are Sunday, April 27th and the May 30th and then June 8th all 2014 and some major code completion from August 12th, 2014 to October 11th, 2014
    [9:20:07 AM] Shiloh: Then a new Rainbow Covenant must exist between the New Noahs and the New Amzaras
    [9:21:02 AM] Shiloh: Then you will have more evolvements all through 2015 with not many markers as significant as before the Cosmic Mirror date of March 25th, 2014
    [9:23:30 AM] Shiloh: The second 6 hours integrated every potential starhuman's new starmind merkabah or mindpotential, effectively bestowing onto the old human mindedness a PARTICULAR NATURE, ergo allowing the nold human egocentricity to evolve or graduate into its cosmic parental precursor
    [9:24:42 AM] Shiloh: This is the real and cosmic Individuality made manifest in the blueprint of the 'Solomon Temple template'
    [9:25:54 AM] Shiloh: This is all I can say about this now; but this Easter 2014 is like a completely new timeline has become established to render the old individuated parallels superfluous in the Cosmic TwinLogos encompassment
    [9:43:39 AM] Sirius 17: yes we just came back from Pikes place market, we walked around the shops and snacked at various little shops and people watched
    [9:43:59 AM] Sirius 17: i had that feeling again that i was watching something fake
    [9:44:02 AM] Sirius 17: actors
    [9:44:11 AM] Sirius 17: it felt surreal
    [9:44:18 AM] Sirius 17: and something has changed
    [9:45:59 AM] Shiloh: This is the new timeline. remember that the 'normal' life in Roman occupied Judea just continued as usual, but had forever changed relative to the inner circle of the witnesses to the Logos testimony?
    [9:46:17 AM] Sirius 17: yes this makes sense
    [9:46:21 AM] Sirius 17: it has changed
    [9:46:44 AM] Shiloh: I had a restless few days Juju
    [9:46:44 AM] Sirius 17: i can no longer look at the world the same, it is like a bunch of zombies
    [9:47:06 AM] Sirius 17: they are acting out the old play but a new one has been invoked
    [9:47:10 AM] Sirius 17: this is what i felt Tony
    [9:47:14 AM] Shiloh: How do you think the resurrection witnesses looked at their old environments?
    [9:47:28 AM] Sirius 17: they have not gotten the new yet or it is being imbedded
    [9:47:30 AM] Shiloh: They would have felt odd and out of place too
    [9:47:37 AM] Sirius 17: yes
    [9:47:43 AM] Sirius 17: i feel very out of place
    [9:47:55 AM] Sirius 17: i dont care anything about the world anymore
    [9:48:12 AM] Sirius 17: i have become a passerby
    [9:48:37 AM] Shiloh: This is what relates to the 'touch me not, as I am not as yet ascended' quote from JC to CJ
    [9:49:28 AM] Shiloh: All the true witnesses are now literally living 'in betwixt worlds' or in the 'Twilight Zone' of the human imagaries
    [9:50:05 AM] Sirius 17: when you say you were restless what do you mean dear'? i could not sleep hardly at all these past days and i have been thinking a lot about what we are in relation to the world, how we are percieved, you know?
    [9:51:01 AM] Sirius 17: i get the feeling that we can come and go as we please, in and out of this world as if nothing went missing, we are like whatever we want to be
    [9:51:42 AM] Shiloh: yes, and as I've said. I continually sought for understanding how the 1st Easter can have relevance in the secular skeptical and Logos denying world of the 1984th Easter onwards
    [9:51:53 AM] Shiloh: See Orwell's 1984 in this timeline code?
    [9:52:09 AM] Sirius 17: oh no i didn't notice but now that you mention it
    [9:52:15 AM] Shiloh: 31+1983=2014
    [9:52:42 AM] Sirius 17: this is the 1984th easter?
    [9:52:45 AM] Sirius 17: lol
    [9:52:47 AM] Shiloh: Indeed and as the Logos timespace warp through the wormhole of the prophets

    [9:53:06 AM] Sirius 17: yes that is some synchro
    [9:53:41 AM] Sirius 17: i was thinking a lot last night about how we are all connected this Thuban family but the others just have not caught up yet
    [9:53:51 AM] Sirius 17: it is that time is different for us see
    [9:53:57 AM] Sirius 17: we are literally out of time
    [9:54:02 AM] Sirius 17: while they are still bound by it
    [9:54:42 AM] Sirius 17: i feel it is significant that you and i broke free of it this time
    [9:54:53 AM] Shiloh: Indeed and as the Logos timespace warp through the wormhole of the prophets
    [9:55:13 AM] Sirius 17: we have opened the gates for them to follow
    [9:55:15 AM] Shiloh: Well anyone atuned to the JCCJ would be
    [9:55:30 AM] Sirius 17: but they just sit their like imbiciles not knowing what we have done
    [9:56:02 AM] Sirius 17: yes well they deny him still
    [9:56:03 AM] Shiloh: But to do so, they either have to 'feel' this intensely or 'come to know' the 'Greater Story' in some other way
    [9:56:39 AM] Sirius 17: yes why i am convinced that the gnosis must come now from an 'Outward" event
    [9:56:44 AM] Shiloh: But this is why i am still bothering of sharing this see. It is for the subconscious soul levels and not the human waking mindedness of the deniers
    [9:57:15 AM] Sirius 17: yes of course, i always understood this
    [9:57:33 AM] Sirius 17: they think us arrogant to go on
    [9:57:42 AM] Sirius 17: but it is our duty to share what we know
    [9:58:01 AM] Sirius 17: they can't understand that yet, that they are US
    [9:58:16 AM] Sirius 17: still in forgetfullness
    [9:58:33 AM] Sirius 17: i really feel that something outward will trigger
    [9:58:49 AM] Sirius 17: that doubting thomas proof
    [9:58:57 AM] Sirius 17: how it comes about i dont know
    [9:59:10 AM] Sirius 17: you and i don't need it
    [9:59:13 AM] Sirius 17: we have seen
    [9:59:23 AM] Sirius 17: but they do
    [10:00:01 AM] Sirius 17: it is heartwreching that they can't see this yet
    [10:00:17 AM] Sirius 17: but there is nothing we can do
    [10:00:21 AM] Shiloh: It is 'cosmic harvest' and there is a 'mercy seat'
    [10:00:51 AM] Sirius 17: yes, the mercy is that eventully they will all get it
    [10:01:55 AM] Sirius 17: my mom went to church today
    [10:02:05 AM] Sirius 17: she bawled through the whole service she said
    [10:02:17 AM] Sirius 17: but she said it was cathartic
    [10:02:23 AM] Sirius 17: and feels better
    [10:02:37 AM] Sirius 17: two people wanted to give her dogs
    [10:02:41 AM] Sirius 17: she refused
    [10:03:07 AM] Sirius 17: she is not ready for another dog and may never be at this point
    [10:03:18 AM] Sirius 17: she told me she can't handle loosing any more
    [10:03:36 AM] Sirius 17: i can understand that
    [10:03:51 AM] Sirius 17: 48 started the habit again
    [10:04:00 AM] Sirius 17: he made it two whole weeks
    [10:04:49 AM] Sirius 17: so yeah i have felt very weird
    [10:05:02 AM] Sirius 17: tired of this shi20 lol
    [10:05:17 AM] Sirius 17: sometimes i think it might be best to be alone
    [10:05:22 AM] Sirius 17: but then i realize i am alone
    [10:05:29 AM] Sirius 17: even in this relationship
    [10:05:35 AM] Sirius 17: its fuc11ed up
    [10:06:18 AM] Sirius 17: but then i think maybe it is just because i find it harder and harder to be around human minds
    [10:08:55 AM] Sirius 17: i guess i should not take things so personal
    [10:09:09 AM] Sirius 17: it is just so juvenile to me
    [10:09:17 AM] Shiloh: No and yes we are alone and solitary
    [10:10:10 AM] Shiloh: Wavemind connected but in the particular isolated and exiled and strangers in a literally god forsaken human world of an insane mentality of what is important and permanent and what is peripheral and temporary
    [10:10:33 AM] Sirius 17: yes, it seems torture
    [10:10:34 AM] Shiloh: i added videos look
    [10:11:47 AM] Sirius 17: hehe nice orwell
    [10:12:31 AM] Shiloh: I cant see myself sharing much more info now
    [10:12:51 AM] Shiloh: As said next Sunday more or less completes the encoding patterns
    [10:13:12 AM] Shiloh: There is only the 153 fisherdays code to follow on the 'Sea of Tiberias' and that has been exposited many times as the Rainbow Covenant to be created and established August 25th, 2014
    [10:13:49 AM] Sirius 17: yes well we will work on transferring to the new forum and saving everything there
    [10:14:50 AM] Shiloh: Oh yes I will be busy with the testimony, but this is fine to remain hidden and obscured
    [10:14:54 AM] Sirius 17: yes, fairytale king's birthday :)
    [10:15:17 AM] Shiloh: The last chapter of the four gospels, John.21
    [10:16:40 AM] Sirius 17: Tony when the buddists say that some of their masters have achieved this rainbow body, do you think that they are waiting for this darklight to be able to 'reappear' again?
    [10:17:37 AM] Shiloh: Something like this yes
    [10:18:22 AM] Shiloh: They are in the 'bardo' still, but have realised their wavenature from their particular embodiment forms
    [10:18:49 AM] Sirius 17: like us then only crossed over
    [10:19:53 AM] Shiloh: But the new bodyforms are WITHIN the Lion aka the Jonah's whale's body and so unless their realised wavebodies can indeed 'eat' their own uni-verse or 'World in Bardo'; they still wont be able to become truly independent in cosmic terms
    [10:20:02 AM] Shiloh: Yes
    [10:20:29 AM] Sirius 17: because sometimes i feel particular spirits around, like the Budda and others and i feel their energy signature and insights or visions will pop into my head
    [10:21:07 AM] Shiloh: 'Bodily Ascension' is nought but the waveform WITHIN realised and acknowledged. Not in silly nabs terms of love and light and nirvanistic nondesires, but in the full monty of the Cosmic purpose and agency
    [10:21:12 AM] Sirius 17: this is the cosmic self, to be a living akashic
    [10:21:55 AM] Shiloh: The Buddha is waiting for the full manyness of the Eucharist as are all dead alive ones Raven
    [10:22:04 AM] Sirius 17: because i feel that their memories are there if i choose to know them
    [10:22:46 AM] Sirius 17: yes, the body is scattered i know
    [10:23:52 AM] Shiloh: It is the consciousness of the 'waved ones' you are sensing
    [10:24:47 AM] Sirius 17: yes and i can sometimes pick out particulars, well they show themselves to me in my minds eye through impressions, ect, daydreams, signs
    [10:25:26 AM] Shiloh: The more a normal incarnated soul can resonate with the Logos and Words of creation, the more of the memories created in a life of incarnation can become manifest in its psychophysical expression of the mindwave
    [10:26:02 AM] Shiloh: I liked Brook picking the Words of Creation = Sword of Creation code
    [10:26:17 AM] Sirius 17: oh i missed this
    [10:26:19 AM] Sirius 17: nice
    [10:27:06 AM] Shiloh: This is such a potent 'secret key', because the violence of the Torah and Old Testament becomes very different, if this 'insight' is applied to the 'conquer and destroy' modes therein and Words=79=Mother of all Mothers as well and 79=Alpha+Omega=38+41, but people think of this as wordplay. Well Brook and this phaseshift moabyte have seen a little deeper there and have actually used anagrams and alphanumerical 'words of creation', so there is some progress in metaphysical nous from them
    [10:28:25 AM] Shiloh: As you know, the 'blood sacrifices' too and the 'kosher laws' are all 'secret codes' which have however caused a lot of horror in their literal translations of misunderstandings
    [10:28:50 AM] Sirius 17: yes and the literal sacrafices
    [10:29:19 AM] Shiloh: Lamb+calf+kid=Aries+Taurus+Capricorn in birthrights either taken or forfeited or transferred etc. Especially encoded in the firstborn Reuben's mandrakes and Simeon's substitute for Benjamin in Egypt and Issachar's birth from the Mandrakes of Leah for Rachel ending with Zebulon as the lastborn son of Leah bar Dinah as the 13th starsign daughter pointing to Mary Magdalene's inheritances - all encoded in Genesis.30 with 35.22 and 42.24 etc.
    [10:30:00 AM] Sirius 17: yes simple if you see it
    [10:30:25 AM] Sirius 17: where did Brook say this? in what thread Tony?
    [10:32:48 AM] Shiloh: Oh somewhere, where she defended Mudra against DD's rants
    [10:44:25 AM] Sirius 17: well i guess we are going to go out to dinner sweety
    [10:44:54 AM] Sirius 17: since it is Easter, we are craving seafood
    [10:45:22 AM] Sirius 17: i will catch up to you later, i figure i will continue to work on the conversations thread
    [10:45:27 AM] Sirius 17: later tonight
    [10:46:01 AM] Shiloh: Good you watched the 2nd video with the 'outlawing of orgasm'?
    [10:46:06 AM] Sirius 17: i also need to get busy finishing up with Flight of the Raven
    [10:46:29 AM] Sirius 17: lol no but good clip, i have watched the whole movie
    [10:46:37 AM] Sirius 17: the book is better really
    [10:47:04 AM] Shiloh: This is super potent now and many nabsers have fallen for this from their own deeper convictions, which they think brings out their 'divinity' and moral superiority
    [10:47:44 AM] Shiloh: This is not part of the movie Juju. This was an interview of George Orwell on his deathbed; he had Tuberculosis
    [10:47:51 AM] Sirius 17: yes this silly virginal bs
    [10:48:19 AM] Sirius 17: i will watch it when i return
    [10:48:29 AM] Shiloh: It is 2 minutes long lol
    [10:48:36 AM] Shiloh: Sure, have a good time
    [10:49:35 AM] Sirius 17: oh i see what your saying yes
    [10:49:45 AM] Sirius 17: his future predictions
    [10:50:21 AM] Sirius 17: which many have come true
    [10:50:34 AM] Sirius 17: apathy rules the human mind
    [10:51:57 AM] Shiloh: Words cannot describe the general ghastly state of human mindedness. And I don't mean human ingenuity in regards to science and its true and genuine artistry and creativity. I mean the general standard of human thinking
    [10:52:27 AM] Sirius 17: yes it is what i mean too, the groupthink
    [10:52:32 AM] Sirius 17: herd mentality
    [10:53:10 AM] Shiloh: Yes, but go now and integrate into this lala land of human phantasmo, as good as you can - without falling for its 'standards' of course, but more as a 'live in it, but be apart of it' agenda
    [10:53:40 AM] Sirius 17: exactly


    Dragon Astrology from the Thuban Archives and Easter 2014

    [11:34:28 AM] Shiloh: This is a nice astroaffinity and the comments in this video are direct and factual
    [11:34:37 AM] Shiloh: I will examine the details on it, but apart from the many nabsiness comments also associated with this astro event - gracias Jenetta de Moab for pointing this out

    [12:32:42 PM] Sirius 17: lol 'stay in the middle of that grand cross and be the dragon instead of being the control freak'...
    [12:33:03 PM] Sirius 17: mutable yet fixed, centered
    [12:33:25 PM] Sirius 17: we are back from dinner
    [12:33:40 PM] Sirius 17: it was terrible, i should of just cooked
    [12:34:05 PM] Sirius 17: we are getting spoiled with my home cooking, restaurant food cannot compare
    [12:44:50 PM] Shiloh: [12:32 PM] Sirius 17:

    <<< lol 'stay in the middle of that grand cross and be the dragon instead of being the control freak'...

    [12:45:00 PM] Shiloh: Where does this come from?
    [12:45:06 PM] Sirius 17: from me
    [12:45:10 PM] Shiloh: Ok good
    [12:45:11 PM] Sirius 17: and the first video
    [12:45:24 PM] Sirius 17: she said stay in the middle and don't freak out
    [12:45:29 PM] Sirius 17: i just reworded it
    [12:45:34 PM] Shiloh: Ok
    [12:45:45 PM] Shiloh: I am finetuning the data on this
    [12:45:49 PM] Sirius 17: i am watching the second video now
    [12:46:57 PM] Shiloh: a bit wordy
    [12:47:16 PM] Shiloh: rather facts than nabs love and light
    [12:47:53 PM] Sirius 17: this grand cross is interesting
    [12:48:14 PM] Sirius 17: but yeah this guy is more conscise
    [12:49:21 PM] Shiloh: Uranus in Aries in conjunct Mars in Libra close to 8am, April 23rd, 2014 UCT at 13°39'
    [12:54:24 PM] Sirius 17: in your mind what is the biggest aspect of the year astrologically?
    [12:55:59 PM] Shiloh: I have not thought about it
    [12:56:16 PM] Shiloh: I am not doing much astroanalysis atm lol
    [12:56:25 PM] Sirius 17: true lol
    [12:56:33 PM] Sirius 17: it takes a lot of time i know
    [12:56:42 PM] Shiloh: The Blood Moons 2014 to 2015 are the timespace warp however
    [12:57:28 PM] Shiloh: I have no time to indulge much more on this with all this testimonial work ahead
    [12:58:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes and the transfer is not simple because of the need to upload all images and videos
    [1:01:23 PM] Shiloh: Pluto stationary in retromode in Capricorn is opposite Jupiter in Cancer at 13°34' degrees to accentuate the Father=Mother conflict resolved in the Father becoming a FatherMother and the Mother becoming a MotherFather and this on April 21st, say 00:00 UCT

    [1:02:02 PM] Sirius 17: nice
    [1:02:15 PM] Sirius 17: how do you interpret this retro saturn in scorpio?
    [1:04:09 PM] Shiloh: Reverse Saturn in Scorpio relates to the Death-Resurecction and Sexuality of the father energy in the house it is in
    [1:04:16 PM] Shiloh: What house is it in?
    [1:04:29 PM] Sirius 17: 6th
    [1:04:44 PM] Sirius 17: well per his chart here
    [1:04:55 PM] Shiloh: So this becomes Health and Pets and ETs
    [1:05:23 PM] Sirius 17: oh i like that, yes
    [1:05:26 PM] Shiloh: The 6th house is native to Virgo and so the mutability of Earth as element
    [1:06:12 PM] Shiloh: The New Lilith not as virgin, but as liberated female in the equanimity of the sisterhood to the brotherhood
    [1:06:39 PM] Sirius 17: Tony i forget where my lilith is
    [1:06:50 PM] Sirius 17: i dont seem to have the chart with it on it
    [1:06:56 PM] Sirius 17: i could not remember
    [1:11:34 PM] Shiloh: Your Lilith is in the 4th house of the family at the midnight sun in Aries at 25°45'
    [1:11:59 PM] Sirius 17: oh thanks
    [1:12:25 PM] Shiloh: Your Lilith is a key aspect in your chart
    [1:12:26 PM] Sirius 17: driving home from dinner we saw huge lenticular cloudships
    [1:12:54 PM] Sirius 17: and i thought of where my Lilith was
    [1:13:01 PM] Sirius 17: er wondered rather
    [1:13:21 PM] Sirius 17: these clouds are pretty rare here, i have not seen them before like this
    [1:13:38 PM] Sirius 17: reminded me of the ones over wendover like what that gal too in the photo
    [1:13:39 PM] Shiloh: The Nadir in Aries with a reverse Saturn is conjunct the Lilith DarkMoon conjunct DragonNode in Taurus in a Fire Trine to the Triple Conjunction in Leo of Mercury, Jupiter and the Sun
    [1:14:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes whatever all that means lol
    [1:15:39 PM] Shiloh: The reverse Saturn is also at 21°27' today, April 21st, 2014 and so related to your natal retro Saturn at 12°3' also in Aries
    [1:16:17 PM] Sirius 17: so my lilith is conjunct saturn?
    [1:17:08 PM] Shiloh: 13 degrees separated. Your saturn is in the 3rd house of the communications, but your Lilith is in the 4th of the Cosmic family
    [1:17:27 PM] Sirius 17: interesting, hmmm
    [1:18:17 PM] Shiloh: Your nadir is at 23° 35' and so your Lilith becomes the closest 'planetary orb' to your midnight Sun at 25°45' Aries
    [1:18:30 PM] Shiloh: 2 degree orb
    [1:18:37 PM] Sirius 17: i see
    [1:18:43 PM | Edited 1:18:49 PM] Shiloh: Meaning Conjunction
    [1:19:27 PM] Shiloh: This is why in your life your attempts to communicate are so hindered by your triple conjunction in the 3rd house
    [1:19:47 PM] Sirius 17: that is weird though i saw those clouds and thought about my darkmoon lilith where it was, i don't know why i thought this
    [1:20:39 PM] Shiloh: Your 'cosmic healer' Chiron there is at 28°56' Pisces also in the 3rd House and so equidistant on the left from the Saturn in the middle and Lilith on the right in the 4th spanning 27 degrees from 29° Pisces to 26° Aries
    [1:21:27 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have to imagine the lilith there, i thought you put these liliths on our charts but i cant find it or you didn't get to mine
    [1:22:09 PM] Shiloh: I see, that I have the old and new charts both in the library
    [1:22:16 PM] Shiloh: I will send you the new ones
    [1:22:51 PM] Sirius 17: sure i would appreciate it
    [1:23:14 PM] Sirius 17: i need to get my photo files more organized on this computer
    [1:23:19 PM] Sirius 17: i have 3 Thuban folders
    [1:23:24 PM] *** Shiloh sent RavenJames.jpg ***
    [1:23:27 PM] Sirius 17: charts everywhere
    [1:25:05 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have this chart, but not the one with the liliths, but then i dont remember if you got to our charts or not
    [1:25:28 PM] Sirius 17: i know we discussed where everyones liliths are
    [1:25:34 PM] Sirius 17: at one point
    [1:25:50 PM] *** Shiloh sent astroravenjames.jpg astroravenjames.jpg ***


    [1:26:08 PM] Shiloh: My fault, I sent the old one, I apologize
    [1:26:29 PM] Sirius 17: no biggie
    [1:27:29 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok i see it now, it is like almost at the nadir in the 4th house there
    [1:28:00 PM] Shiloh: Exactly, why I made this topline comment as you should see now in the aspects
    [1:28:41 PM] Sirius 17: interesting James's lilith is in leo
    [1:30:05 PM] Sirius 17: thank you for this dear
    [1:30:25 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i looked for it and couldn't find it and i didn't see it on the forums
    [1:30:49 PM] Sirius 17: one of these days i will organize all these charts better
    [1:30:50 PM] Shiloh: I commented on James Lilith as follows:
    [1:33:09 PM] Sirius 17: i see that his lilith if you overlayed it on my chart would be conjunct my sun but i don't know what it means lol
    [1:33:18 PM] Shiloh: A Triple Trine in water across Houses 2-6-10 aspects a Staioned neptune conjunct a Moon in Scorpio with a Stationary Mars in Cancer, Square a Venus in Aries, who is Trine a Lilith DarkMoon in Leo and is mirrored in a Mercury-Chiron Conjunction in Pisces, Square the Aquarius Sun
    [1:33:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes now what does all that mean lol
    [1:34:20 PM] Shiloh: All those aspects mean a great many things and prove informative and instrumental for any competent astrologer asked the appropriate questions
    [1:34:50 PM] Sirius 17: hehe ok
    [1:35:16 PM] Sirius 17: i know you don't have time for this so it is ok dear
    [1:35:44 PM] Shiloh: The way astroanalysis functions is to know the superlative traditional elemental associations and then to superpose both the nativity and the transits in the contexts invoked
    [1:36:14 PM] Sirius 17: and i do realize that it is a snapshot of our births and not the grander picture of which we are all starsigns
    [1:37:04 PM] Shiloh: As said asking the question in a NOT GENERAL way, like: "What does all this mean?", allows ANY competent astrologer to look at those mathematical adtro formulations and to provide answers to SPECIFIC questions asked
    [1:37:17 PM] Shiloh: No you misread my comments
    [1:37:44 PM] Sirius 17: ok well i guess i dont know what to ask specifically so i will just study it
    [1:37:44 PM] Shiloh: Most want some simple data provided on a platter for their lazy minds
    [1:38:17 PM] Shiloh: The 1st thing you should look at are the houses or 12 sectors
    [1:38:18 PM] Sirius 17: no i realize it is not simple and far more complicated
    [1:38:29 PM] Shiloh: In your chart this is the innermost circle described
    [1:39:01 PM] Shiloh: So then look if there are planets in those sectors and then formulate a question according to the house you are in
    [1:39:56 PM] Shiloh: Then the astrologer looks at those planets in thier houses and also knowing the traditional rulers of those houses straighht away should see the cosmic template behind the individual natal one
    [1:40:24 PM] Sirius 17: ok my sun and his lilith are when overlayed are in the 7th house of partnerships, does this mean that my sun conjuncts his lilith and brings light to its darkness?
    [1:40:52 PM] Shiloh: Then taking this as a 1st cosmic dispensation for the birth, heshe can then look for aspects of those orbs to others, both traditional and aspected at the birthtime
    [1:41:58 PM] Sirius 17: and vs versa i guess, his lilith darkens my sun or shadows it
    [1:42:01 PM] Shiloh: All of those charts i made show the basic configuration of the nativity in mathematical astrosymbolic 'shorthand' say and from this the analysis ollows bnut depends on the enquiries of the questioner
    [1:42:33 PM] Shiloh: Much of what you find on the internet about astrology is fine. Say Jupiter in Cancer in the 5th house means....
    [1:42:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes ok dear, nm
    [1:43:21 PM] Shiloh: But those are yet generalities based in the traditions, which are potent and valid especially since Chiron was assigned to Virgo in a 52 year cycle.
    [1:44:17 PM] Shiloh: Thuban astrology is unique in also assigning the DragonNode to Libra substituting for venus as its ruler, just as Virgo's older ruler Mercury became repleced by Chiron
    [1:45:01 PM] Shiloh: The intricacies of any chart are however VERY dependent on the question AND the 'insight cosmic' of the reader
    [1:45:15 PM] Shiloh: it becomes much like a so called 'psychic reading' then
    [1:45:23 PM] Sirius 17: i just thought maybe you could elaborate on that specific question
    [1:45:34 PM] Shiloh: This most, even astrologers dont understand very well
    [1:45:38 PM] Sirius 17: about the overlay of his lilith to my sun
    [1:45:56 PM] Shiloh: Sure what is the question?
    [1:45:58 PM] Sirius 17: because i would like to know what your interpretation is
    [1:46:08 PM] Shiloh: Ask and I shall answer
    [1:46:14 PM] Sirius 17: i did
    [1:46:29 PM] Shiloh: I must have overlooked it
    [1:46:30 PM] Sirius 17: [1:39 PM] Sirius 17:

    <<< ok my sun and his lilith are when overlayed are in the 7th house of partnerships, does this mean that my sun conjuncts his lilith and brings light to its darkness?
    [1:46:40 PM] Sirius 17: and vs versa
    [1:46:46 PM] Shiloh: Ah yes!
    [1:48:18 PM] Shiloh: James' Lilith at 0°48' Leo in the 7th House infers the Cosmic Partnership, albeit at the cancer cusp of the cosmic motherhood
    [1:48:37 PM] Shiloh: You straight away see, that James has a Motherhood issue, also engendering the female sexuality
    [1:49:06 PM] Sirius 17: lol i don't see that but ok
    [1:49:13 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean by that?
    [1:49:40 PM] Shiloh: Allow me to focus on your question and its cosmic contemplation
    [1:52:34 PM] Shiloh: James' Lilith is opposed by his Saturn in Capricorn to 6 degrees. This is the Cancer-Mother conflict, because Saturn is traditionally ruled by Capricorn
    [1:53:16 PM] Sirius 17: ah ok
    [1:53:21 PM] Shiloh: So James sees his Father in his Mother in a special way
    [1:54:16 PM] Shiloh: See If Saturn is in Capricorn, then the Mother should be in Cancer for the harmonies and James Moon is the natural ruler of Cancer
    [1:54:53 PM] Shiloh: So look where James' Moon is and you will see the resolution and conflict of this Lilith dark Moon seeking harmony
    [1:55:18 PM] Sirius 17: oh because his moon is in scorpio this is natural ruler for cancer?
    [1:55:49 PM] Shiloh: Nono his Moon in Scoripo indicates the sexual-death-legacy nature for his Lilith
    [1:57:28 PM] Shiloh: And as his Moon is in the 10y=th house of Work and Career, you get the energy dynamics of the Lilith-Moon-Saturn triple in the interaction of houses 1=Identity or Ego with 7=Cosmic partnerships and marriage etc and the 10=Career&Work
    [1:58:16 PM] Shiloh: The Full Moon = Natural Ruler of the Cosmic Mother of Cancer as the traditional 4th House of the Family

    [1:58:40 PM] Shiloh: So cosmically Cancer is always the 4th House
    [1:58:54 PM] Shiloh: Scorpio is always the 8th House etc
    [1:58:56 PM] Sirius 17: oh i see
    [1:59:04 PM] Shiloh: It is not that hard to interpret birth charts
    [1:59:20 PM] Sirius 17: for you lol
    [1:59:30 PM] Sirius 17: you have had much more practice than I
    [1:59:54 PM] Sirius 17: i do try
    [2:00:06 PM] Sirius 17: but thank you Tony
    [2:01:31 PM] Shiloh: Well I have had not much practice lately
    [2:01:56 PM] Shiloh: And every aspect allows one then to extrapolate and write an essay on it.
    [2:02:14 PM] Shiloh: For example the Lilith of James story would continue like that:
    [2:02:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see, because of its relationship to the other signs and planets

    [2:04:51 PM] Shiloh: Because James' Moon is conjunct his stationary Jupiter in Scorpio to 1 degree; his emotional basic disposition has from an early age a Scorpionian watery quality associated with it. This addresses early ideas of sexuality and taboos and a confrontation with the death of family members and acquaintances
    [2:06:11 PM] Shiloh: The stationary Jupiter is native to the 9th house of Travel and Education and so interacts with native capricorn native to the 10th house occupied by Pluto ruling Scorpio.
    [2 PM] Shiloh: So the interaction of james' Pluto in Jame's 8th House of Virgo mirrors its native rulership of the 8th house as tyhat of Death, Transformation, legacies and Sexuality
    [2:09:11 PM] Sirius 17: ok that is a lot to take in but informative

    [2:09:16 PM] Shiloh: Now as James' Dragon node is also conjunct his retro Pluto to 1 degree in the 1st decad of Virgo, this dragonnode being naturally ruled by Libra does provide a balance cosmic to whatever conflicts might arise in the 'Mirror of the Scorpio' and as the dragon node is native to House 7 of cosmic partnerships then, Dark Moon Lilith becomes subject to the 19 year cycles of the metonic cylces and the saros cycle of the eclipses

    [2:10:26 PM] Shiloh: It goes on and on, because one aspect relates to another and seeing the basic configuration allows you to draw insight and conclusions from one to the next
    [2:10:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see how your doing that
    [2:11:33 PM] Shiloh: This is what I meant with every single aspect describes an essay and the general tabloid astrology is simply insufficient to astroanalyse the questioner
    [2:12:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes most of it is just watered down generic rehash
    [2:12:39 PM] Sirius 17: the tabliod astrology i mean
    [2:12:47 PM] Shiloh: This becomes however a REAL psychoanalysis far apart from the quackery today called psychology or its clinical science abuse called psychiatry
    [2:13:06 PM] Sirius 17: oh definately
    [2:14:34 PM] Shiloh: It carries on say from the Freudian 'complexes' of the Father-Daughter called 'Electra' and the Mother-Son called 'Oedipus' but renders those archetypical in a better Jungian form
    [2:15:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes i never liked Freud
    [2:15:03 PM] Sirius 17: nutcase
    [2:15:43 PM] Shiloh: Indeed, his own sexual inhibitions, projected on his 'patients' - just as ius the case today
    [2:15:45 PM] Sirius 17: Jung defintely had a better and more sane approach and understanding of the archetypes
    [2:16:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes and he had a facination with shi20/excrement
    [2:16:31 PM] Sirius 17: Freud anyhow
    [2:18:08 PM] Sirius 17:

    Black Moon in the 7th is also a factor to attract people of great independence and originality to you, people with the qualities of Lilith: full-on passions and emotions, rebellious nature, dislike of patriarchal establishment and a need for absolute perfection.

    With this position, returns of the Black Moon to the native Black Moon can bring upheavals in relationships. The more prepared the native is, the more these upheavals are likely to take the shape of healthy new beginnings, rather than painful crises.

    [2:18:12 PM] Sirius 17: i found this
    [2:18:57 PM] Sirius 17: i wonder where his black moon is at lately lol
    [2:19:48 PM] Shiloh: Yes and can you see how the authors of this came to this conclusion?
    [2:20:35 PM] Shiloh: It simply understands the nature of the traditional 7th house as that of cosmic partnership and being ruled by Mercury for Libra
    [2:20:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes ok i can see that
    [2:20:53 PM] Sirius 17: interesting
    [2:21:08 PM] Sirius 17:

    Because of the ambivalence between fascination and abhorrence so intrinsically linked to the symbolism of the Black Moon, this position can also manifest as a burning need to cut one's family roots and disconnect from one's parents. If you find that you often change the place where you live, then you should ask yourself whether this has something to do with your Black Moon in the 4th house: never feeling really at home anywhere because of an unconscious wound, rather than with climate or real estate reasons.

    On the higher mode, Black Moon in the 4th can indicate a natural affinity and understanding of spiritual and occults laws, a profound intuition which can know the mysteries of the creation. This goes with an extraordinarily sharp perception of other people's emotions and fundamental motivations.

    [2:21:21 PM] Sirius 17: and then this one is where my lilith is, 4th house
    [2:21:28 PM] Sirius 17: this is true in many ways
    [2:21:43 PM] Sirius 17: [2:20 PM] Sirius 17:

    <<< never feeling really at home anywhere because of an unconscious wound, rather than with climate or real estate reasons.

    [2:22:23 PM] Shiloh: But as said, the New World will assign the New Moon as a DragonNode to the 7th House of Libra and so render the new Moon a new ruler for Libra in its DragonNode journey from head to tail and as the new astroaspect between Cancer the Cosmic Mother and Libra the Cosmic Justice and balancer in the Full Moon New Moon lunar cycles

    [2:22:47 PM] Shiloh: Yes the 4th House of the Family is traditionally fixed
    [2:23:15 PM] Sirius 17: this explains a lot why i never felt at home anywhere
    [2:23:18 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [2:23:45 PM] Shiloh: Only the 6th of the ETs etc and also 'affairs' and the 7th have new astroarchetypes in Chiron for the 6th and the Dragonnodes for the 7th
    [2:23:47 PM] Sirius 17: et family, off world lol
    [2:25:51 PM] Shiloh: Lilith atm is at 5°18' Leo
    [2:26:25 PM] Sirius 17: oh hell lol
    [2:26:34 PM] Sirius 17: it is coming near his lilith
    [2:26:53 PM] Sirius 17: or maybe it already passed it
    [2:27:04 PM] Shiloh: So all Leos will experience the DarkMoon energy for the duration of March 5th, 2014 to November 28th, 2014
    [2:27:23 PM] Sirius 17: interesting
    [2:28:04 PM] Shiloh: It was there Wednesday, March 12th
    [2:29:59 PM] Sirius 17: hmm yes now i am trying to think back on that day
    [2:30:16 PM] Sirius 17: i am looking at my mercury in leo in the 7th house now
    [2:30:51 PM] Shiloh: Makes you a roaring Lioness in the communications not heared or listened to by the many
    [2:31:19 PM] Shiloh: You seek the cosmic partnership see, but are rejected. Like someone else i know
    [2:31:26 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [2:31:28 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
    [2:31:39 PM] Shiloh: Can you see the simple things in the charts now a little better?
    [2:31:55 PM] Shiloh: 7th house is... planet means basic ...
    [2:31:55 PM] Sirius 17:

    This person needs intellectual stimulation in relationships, and they are drawn to intelligent and verbal people, with whom they can share their academic interests, and who they can learn with. The individual is usually involved in mercurial pursuits in partnerships or association with others. The major concern here is with communication and intellectual cooperation with others. Though, if they have little mental self confidence in their own ideas and opinions they will let someone else do the thinking for them. They may even see others as being more intelligent and articulate than themselves. Planets in the 7th house can sometimes be given away to others, either consciously or unconsciously. Mercury here is very concerned about what others think and will always seek mental companionship. The partner may be younger, or a relationship is formed through lots of written correspondence.

    [2:32:00 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i can
    [2:32:48 PM] Shiloh: yes, again see this auther knows the traditional associations of sector 7 and also the nature of mercury as communicator/
    [2:33:08 PM] Sirius 17: i am starting to understand why James irritates the hell out of me at times
    [2:33:31 PM] Shiloh: Then this being sound and archetypically energized, herhis description becomes valid and universally applicable
    [2:33:34 PM] Sirius 17: i am somewhat of a perfectionist at wanting open and intellectual communication
    [2:33:41 PM] Sirius 17: there is a huge void there with us
    [2:34:32 PM] Sirius 17: so it must be his dark moon lilith that keeps me here, i dont know lol
    [2:34:34 PM] Shiloh: yes and his Scorpionian planets linked to his Aquarius Sun often 'prefers' secrecy and privacy
    [2:34:41 PM] Sirius 17: oh fuc11
    [2:34:43 PM] Sirius 17: tell me
    [2:35:20 PM] Shiloh: Scorpio is the depth of power, but also subject to egomania and abuse of the deepest passions
    [2:36:05 PM] Sirius 17: somedays i want to run far far away and other days i am happy and content, he is not the worlds easiest person to live with
    [2:36:29 PM] Shiloh: But also recall, that the Scorpio of John's gospel as the fixed watery element transforms into the Eagle and Phoenix of the Rebirth of the say 'fifth element' of the Elixir of the 'Book of Life'
    [2:36:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes power struggles and his know it all and then unwillingness to discuss thing
    [2:36:43 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [2:37:10 PM] Shiloh: then look where his communication symbols are: House 3 and Mercury
    [2:37:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can see how our charts overlay to know that it is not a mistake
    [2:37:18 PM] Sirius 17: that we are together
    [2:37:32 PM] Sirius 17: something is being healed at a deep level with us
    [2:37:34 PM] Sirius 17: i do know that
    [2:37:57 PM] Shiloh: His Mercury is in Pisces in the 2nd of the possessions and Finances
    [2:38:20 PM] Shiloh: His 3rd House hosts Venus in Aries
    [2:38:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes he is a lover and has that piscenian communication going
    [2:38:45 PM] Shiloh: So this Venus should be highly communicative
    [2:39:01 PM] Sirius 17: and by lover i mean he is a very gentle soul and loves to help anyone he can
    [2:39:15 PM] Shiloh: Being ruled by Taurus you look what his Taurus house does
    [2:39:41 PM] Shiloh: I am giving a free new Thuban astrology course here lol
    [2:40:00 PM] Sirius 17: lol i know
    [2:40:06 PM] Shiloh: I am sharing it
    [2:40:09 PM] Sirius 17: well there is nothing in his taurus house
    [2:40:36 PM] Sirius 17: taurus sits over the 4th and 5th house
    [2:40:49 PM] Shiloh: Ergo, what does this mean to you as a Thuban astrology student in regards to his Venus in sector 2?
    [2:41:44 PM] Shiloh: His 2nd house of possessions and worldly goods is not cross energized by its own traditional ruler
    [2:41:46 PM] Sirius 17: well that he should be great at comunicating love
    [2:41:59 PM] Sirius 17: i thought venus was in his 3rd house
    [2:42:02 PM] Shiloh: Noone can 'escape' the rulership of taurus of the 2nd house.
    [2:42:44 PM] Shiloh: This is why the scripture says in Job, that the 'zodiak' is like a curse for all human incarnates subject to it as the Mazzaroth
    [2:43:20 PM] Shiloh: yes my bad again, but this translates the possessions to communications
    [2:43:43 PM] Sirius 17: well if venus was in his second house than his greatest possession would be love
    [2:43:54 PM] Shiloh: So James cannot escape the Mercury of house 3 ruled by traditional Mercury
    [2:43:59 PM] Sirius 17: and it would overshadow his finances and possessions
    [2:44:18 PM] Shiloh: His Mercury is in House 2 of the possessions native to taurus
    [2:44:23 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [2:44:44 PM] Shiloh: James carries a strange kind of possessibveness around
    [2:45:32 PM] Shiloh: In one way he is totally giving and could not care about what he has in a free communique of sharing, dare i say Jesus' kind of communisms and anarchy
    [2:45:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes but in another way he is afraid of it
    [2:46:49 PM] Shiloh: On the other hand he is very possessive of his own 'niche' or cosmic corner, because his 'inner talk to himself' hosts this in a Piscean form of the fluid selfhood
    [2:47:04 PM] Sirius 17: he gives away everything and has his whole life
    [2:47:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes his mercury is watery
    [2:47:20 PM] Shiloh: Ergo substance dynamics play an important part in his notion of 'freedom'
    [2:48:10 PM] Sirius 17: he has a special kind of stuborness like no other lol, it even eclipses my own
    [2:48:31 PM] Sirius 17: what do you mean by substance dynamics?
    [2:49:18 PM] Shiloh: And as Chiron is conjunct Mercury in Pisces, there is much scope for advancing this basic wateriness of possessions oe knowing into a selfreflective healing mode of Chiron, then linked to Virgo in the house 8-9 transition and the associations with that
    [2:49:44 PM] Shiloh: Pisces as the 12th sign is naturally the House of the Dreamer
    [2:50:10 PM] Shiloh: So the escape or mixing of mental realities becomes a strong dynamic
    [2:50:22 PM] Sirius 17: his 'inner talk' is usually feeling right about everything or sorry for himself
    [2:50:44 PM] Shiloh: This is the 'possessiveness' manifesting as his 'freedom of choice'
    [2:50:52 PM] Sirius 17: he goes back and forth between being sure and dumbfounded
    [2:51:16 PM] Shiloh: This is Chiron wanting evolution of the Pisces wishy washy escapism
    [2:51:34 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm this wateryness helps me understand some things
    [2:51:46 PM] Sirius 17: Ahhhh i see
    [2:52:17 PM] Shiloh: You are asking the specific questions not some general 'tell me my lifepath' and so some answers are eventuating for you
    [2:53:17 PM] Shiloh: And perhaps, sharing this will allow others to read their own charts and not rely on second hand information of often missing energy aspects
    [2:53:28 PM] Sirius 17: ok also the lilith mirroring the sun in aquarius, can you say something about this?
    [2:53:43 PM] Sirius 17: his lilith i mean
    [2:54:37 PM] Sirius 17: or am i off and not looking at that right
    [2:54:46 PM] Shiloh: The opposition is 19 degrees and so not as strong as a true opposition measured say in less than 1 decad of 10 degrees
    [2:55:32 PM] Shiloh: But you look then at a transit say of Lilith into Leo. Something which is happening right now
    [2:55:39 PM] Sirius 17: how much of an opposition to saturn and jupiter there?
    [2:56:30 PM] Shiloh: Saturn is the closest as 6 degrees and Jupiter is at 8. All potent oppositions
    [2:57:10 PM] Shiloh: This indicates a 1st House conflict in James which he has carried all his life
    [2:57:23 PM] Sirius 17: identity
    [2:57:44 PM] Shiloh: Asking Who am I? and Why am I here? so is rather profound in his existentialism
    [2:58:01 PM] Shiloh: Exactly, you are graduating as a Thuban astrologer
    [2:58:24 PM] Sirius 17: he has a strong outer ego but it is also in flux
    [2:58:36 PM] Sirius 17: doubting his own knowing at times
    [2:58:47 PM] Shiloh: The Lilith so becomes a shadow energy in his life, something he feels but misunderstands a lot
    [2:58:51 PM] Shiloh: namely you lol
    [2:58:59 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [2:59:14 PM] Sirius 17: yes ironic huh that his lilith is in Leo
    [2:59:24 PM] Sirius 17: joker ABBA lol
    [3:00:11 PM] Shiloh: So you look at your Lilith in the 4th house in Aries 'talking' to his Lilith in the 7th of Leo
    [3:00:34 PM] Shiloh: Two fire signs and so clashes of dominance in its basic mentalism
    [3:00:49 PM] Shiloh: Family contra Partnership
    [3:00:50 PM] Sirius 17: that explains a lot lol
    [3:01:24 PM] Shiloh: Who is the king of the Jungle? The Lion or the Lioness?
    [3:01:42 PM] Shiloh: Mentality versus physicality, bound together in Emotion
    [3:02:17 PM] Shiloh: The 4th house of Cancer is naturally trine to the 7th house of Libra - so the two dark moons are trine
    [3:02:46 PM] Shiloh: So the 'wars of the mind' dont last long and mental acceptances reappear
    [3:03:33 PM] Sirius 17: you know he was raised around a bunch of his sisters
    [3:04:02 PM] Sirius 17: so he understands women in that sense he is protective and yet gentle
    [3:04:06 PM] Sirius 17: receptive
    [3:04:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes i thought our liliths had some kind of harmony, it is a trine?
    [3:06:45 PM] Shiloh: Yes to 5 degrees in the Fire
    [3:07:26 PM] Shiloh: James
    [3:07:27 PM] Sirius 17: lol yes hotheads
    [3:08:16 PM] Sirius 17: two of the most egotistical signs in the zodiac, aquarius and leo lol
    [3:08:19 PM] Shiloh: James' gentle nature is also effected by the Chiron-Mercury conjunction. he KNOWS and feels a natural cosmic harmony and healing modus
    [3:08:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is good he is so laid back
    [3:08:54 PM] Shiloh: He is in fact a healing energy wherever he physically ventures, without being fully aware of this
    [3:09:01 PM] Sirius 17: he is
    [3:09:14 PM] Sirius 17: he makes people smile and feel alive
    [3:09:15 PM] Shiloh: Especially with children
    [3:09:20 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes
    [3:09:35 PM] Sirius 17: i am the intense one
    [3:09:57 PM] Sirius 17: so in that sense he calms my intensity
    [3:10:00 PM] Shiloh: He has his Mars stationary in cancer sign of the Mother see
    [3:10:24 PM] Shiloh: Mars in Cancer is naturally antiviolence and antiwar
    [3:10:38 PM] Shiloh: I share this with him btw
    [3:11:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will
    [3:11:48 PM] Sirius 17: oh you mean your mars is in cancer too?
    [3:11:51 PM] Shiloh: It is called mars in detriment. The ruler of Aries placed in the most antinatural state of the impulsive self assetrtian in the physical sense of the nature of war and confrontation
    [3:11:55 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [3:12:00 PM] Sirius 17: and stationary?
    [3:12:12 PM] Shiloh: Mars in Cancer are naturally born peace makers
    [3:12:23 PM] Sirius 17: wow i didn't know that
    [3:12:40 PM] Shiloh: Mars in fire signs are powerful 'warriors' though
    [3:12:56 PM] Sirius 17: my mars is in scorpio, war lol
    [3:12:58 PM] Sirius 17: oh god
    [3:13:21 PM] Shiloh: No Mars in Scorpio is the power behind the military commanders say
    [3:13:52 PM] Sirius 17: hmm could you say Michael energy, the archangel?
    [3:14:05 PM] Shiloh: the depth of the power broker and say exemplified by the so called elites or PTB nowadays in the unknown puppeteeers controlling the politics
    [3:14:38 PM] Shiloh: Yes but Michael is the Fire element without zodiacal encumberances - iow pure as element
    [3:14:56 PM] Shiloh: Gabriel is Air and Raphael Water and Uriel Earth as say the archcherubims
    [3:15:38 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok
    [3:16:10 PM] Shiloh: All astrological charts are manifestoes of elemental energies. Sanicle would like this lol
    [3:16:32 PM] Shiloh: But she has her human filtered ideas of just what elementals are
    [3:17:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes the little fairy folk and forest sprites
    [3:17:56 PM] Sirius 17: i used to paint and draw them all the time
    [3:18:11 PM] Sirius 17: i loved fairys
    [3:18:26 PM] Sirius 17: well i still do, especially now that i have become one
    [3:18:34 PM] Sirius 17: hehe
    [3:18:39 PM] Shiloh: Well not far off anyway; just look at Findhorn
    [3:18:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes i read the book
    [3:19:19 PM] Shiloh: But her antimale ideas derive from obnoxious memeplexes, she misidentifies as benevolent guides and wisdom sharers and so on
    [3:19:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes she gives too much power to the voices in her head
    [3:19:51 PM] Sirius 17: instead of being the master
    [3:20:08 PM] Shiloh: Indeed
    [3:20:47 PM] Shiloh: The human created thoughtforms over millennia now have grown into monstrous emotion feeding entities
    [3:21:07 PM] Shiloh: Just ask oxy, he knows them better than anyone I know
    [3:22:16 PM] Sirius 17: hehe yes he is best friends with them
    [3:22:45 PM] Sirius 17: i still get that muppets song in my head when i think of him
    [3:22:51 PM] Sirius 17: it just automatically plays lol
    [3:23:28 PM] Sirius 17: oxy if your reading this...i still adore you
    [3:23:53 PM] Sirius 17: he is afraid of his own shadow though
    [3:24:04 PM] Sirius 17: shadowboxer
    [3:24:13 PM] Shiloh: Yes the female Angel missing her male Devil
    [3:25:00 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
    [3:25:11 PM] Sirius 17: i have womb for him
    [3:25:30 PM] Sirius 17: (devil)
    [3:26:34 PM] Sirius 17: Tony is it important also to look at how the moon is aspected to the dark moon lilith? or is that kind of redundent
    [3:27:35 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHxRkOFfmcU

    [3:27:39 PM] Sirius 17: here is the song btw
    [3:27:53 PM] Sirius 17: someone got rid of the original good copy
    [3:30:00 PM] Shiloh: Nothing is redundant dear in the aspects
    [3:31:16 PM] Shiloh: You simply place Lilith into context to the Full Moon Cancer and the New Moon Libra and then discern how Lilith interacts with both
    [3:32:05 PM] Sirius 17: so for example can you talk about my lilith in this aspect?
    [3:32:57 PM] Sirius 17: like it being opposite to Libra?
    [3:33:40 PM] Shiloh: Let me bring up the chart again
    [3:36:33 PM] Shiloh: Your Capricorn Moon is in the House of the Dreamer 12. Also in Capricorn your Full Moon naturally allows you to have an inner father-Mother harmonisation.
    [3:37:52 PM] Shiloh: Your Lilith is in Aries conjunct to your New Moon in Taurus and so bridging two signs in your family House
    [3:39:27 PM] Shiloh: So you can see your cosmic 'contract' here of unifying the Aries-Taurus 1-2 partnership in the 4th House of the Cosmic family and so cocreating a new energy for the traditional 1st and 2nd sectors of the Cosmic Ego Self-ID and the material possessions
    [3:39:51 PM] Shiloh: For you family comes before the individual ID
    [3:40:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [3:40:48 PM] Shiloh: This is also VERY powerfully emphasized in the fact that BOTH your 1st and 2nd houses are EMPTY
    [3:41:27 PM] Shiloh: All those folks who think you selfish or 'full of yourself' or arrogant are as misled by tgheir judgemental minds as can be
    [3:42:01 PM] Shiloh: There cannot be many more egoless persobns around, than people who have NO aspects or planets in the first two houses of their charts
    [3:42:53 PM] Sirius 17: yes i did not know that until you showed me
    [3:42:57 PM] Sirius 17: but it makes sense
    [3:43:02 PM] Sirius 17: http://tribes.tribe.net/darkmoongoddesslilith/thread/a8d76b5d-4175-4e4a-b6f6-566aa0dcb407
    [3:43:10 PM] Shiloh: There is another such 'contracteur' with thefirst two houses empty and you know that one as Tonyblue
    [3:43:14 PM] Sirius 17: what do you think of these descriptors
    [3:43:29 PM] Sirius 17: they make out lilith in aries as some egomanaic
    [3:43:52 PM] Sirius 17: yes thats right your first two houses are empty
    [3:44:27 PM] Shiloh: I like it and used it before to describe the Lilith in Susan and Xeia, Rok and you and james and myself
    [3:45:06 PM] Sirius 17: aries is impulsive right?
    [3:46:00 PM] Shiloh: Yes and mine is in Pisces
    [3:46:44 PM] Sirius 17: hehe
    [3:46:56 PM] Sirius 17: some coincedence
    [3:47:28 PM] Shiloh: Lassie's is in Gemini and Susan's is in Taurus. Both Susan's and mine are in the 12th House of the Dreamer
    [3:47:37 PM] Sirius 17: is DDs lilith in her 1st house? i can't remember but it would be funny shi20 if it were lol
    [3:47:45 PM] Shiloh: So the 'quest for infinity' becomes pertinent and authorized
    [3:47:53 PM] Sirius 17: nice
    [3:48:28 PM] Shiloh: Gemini in the 4th of the family she found but rejects Juju
    [3:48:40 PM] Shiloh: DD's Lilith is basically on top of yours, but yours is in Aries and hers is in Gemini
    [3:48:41 PM] Sirius 17:

    Here we have twins in one person. The first one stays at a unconscious level and is occulted while the second one has a "normal" life. Both are like enemies at the beginning as they interpenetrate and bother each other. The native must integrate the both, even if he is scared by the first and refuses him. This gives different attitudes:
    - One tries to cheat, to hide the truth to oneself or to others, to mask what one does not want to see: that's a kind of unintentional duplicity
    - Double faced personality (Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde): the showed face is nice, the hidden face is bad.

    The native will live his outer personality in order to calm down his anxiety. The link between mind and body is difficult. If the mind is not strong enough, it will identify itself to the body and become too much receptive to the others and to the outer world. The head might be "empty" and the native can't concentrate his attention and can't reflect. This type is easy to manipulate. If the mind is stronger than the body, it has its own life, dissociated from the body : we may have schizophrenia. The native must find a conciliation between material and spirit: it is the duality. To harmonize the masculine (Yang) energy and the feminine (Yin) energy is hard to do. Nervous, anxiety, latent homosexuality, mental eroticism, bad communication, intellectual frustrations... all of these are in relation with BlackMoon in Gemini. The thoughts are often ferocious and cold. As there are here several personalities in the same person, the concerned native may not know who he really is and where he is. There are different ways to live this:

    - One may operate a junction (a mix) between its two personalities
    - One may wake up the hidden part in order to correct its negative aspects
    - One may use a new gift if the hidden part is positive

    The native has to solve questions bound to communication. This is done through the WORD, the right one, the search of what is true, authentic, with all the dissatisfaction and the gap between the word itself and the affect. This quest may give either an attraction for the language, the writing or an aversion for the words that never translate exactly what are the feelings, the sensation. The native has a pathological anxiety that is showed through movements or agitation. This anxiety speaks about the native's refusal to be totally incarnated, the difficulty for him to accept the time goes on and to appreciate the instant moment. The native constantly stops the arrival of emotions and feelings to the surface.

    Sagittarius - opposite to Gemini - will oblige the native to live many experiences, will increase and multiple contacts, and give to him the permanent opportunity to be confronted to Lilith's problems. The different unknown facets - good and bad - will reach the consciousness in order to be purified - when they are negative - and integrated to the personality. In the past lives, the native might have been betrayed and might have suffered because of inability to communicate. They also might have made either medical or psychic experiences and destroyed others people psyche. They might have done energy manipulations in order to exert a power. Today the creativity is here but will only be used on a positive way.

    If Lilith is between 0° and 2° of Gemini, the native must leave the secured life where he would like to stay and live many experiences. If Lilith is between 28° and 30°00 of Gemini, the native will have to learn how to concentrate all his energies in order to build his own personality and a coherent life.

    Keywords: mental isolation - nervous breakdown - nervosity - sexual duality - dissipation - double personality.

    [3:48:44 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [3:49:19 PM] Sirius 17: yeah that about sums it up
    [3:49:24 PM] Sirius 17: truly sad this
    [3:49:27 PM] Shiloh: Like you her Lilith is at 26°32' and her Midnight Sun nadir
    [3:49:42 PM] Sirius 17: her Lilith is seriously right over mine?
    [3:50:03 PM] Sirius 17: that is very creepy lol
    [3:50:15 PM] Shiloh: Yours is at the Midnight Sun at 25°45' and so superjoined
    [3:50:39 PM] Shiloh: So there is an astroaspect showing you why she hates you so much
    [3:51:01 PM] Shiloh: You are literally 'in her way'. But so are many too close to her from the cosmic perspective
    [3:51:04 PM] Sirius 17: unreal, yeah i did not know this
    [3:51:14 PM] Shiloh: You have her chart yes?
    [3:51:19 PM] Shiloh: I never completed it
    [3:51:20 PM] Sirius 17: no
    [3:51:30 PM] Sirius 17: i did at one point i thought
    [3:51:56 PM] *** Shiloh sent astrodebra.jpg astrodebra.jpg ***
    [3:52:08 PM] Sirius 17: send me xeias too
    [3:52:49 PM] Shiloh: wrong one
    [3:53:18 PM] Sirius 17: are all those planets in her 1st house seriously?
    [3:53:25 PM] Shiloh: I also send you mine. It also is incomplete. I simply did not get around to completing those 2 charts; I wonder why at times?
    [3:53:37 PM] Shiloh: Yes egocentric but proclaiming the opposite in her 'Jekyll and Hyde' modus operandi, see?
    [3:53:53 PM] Sirius 17: holy lol
    [3:54:01 PM] Sirius 17: like James but different
    [3:54:11 PM] Shiloh: I know a lot about any chart I construct
    [3:54:19 PM] Shiloh: But I shall keep some 'secrets', unless enticed to reveal them
    [3:54:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know
    [3:54:59 PM] Sirius 17: you know much more then you let on
    [3:55:25 PM] Sirius 17: so her lilith is also in the 4th house
    [3:55:34 PM] Sirius 17: it is not on this chart so i have to imagine it
    [3:56:36 PM] Sirius 17: well you should finish her chart sometime
    [3:57:07 PM] *** Shiloh sent astrodebras.jpg astrodebras.jpg ***


    [3:57:25 PM] *** Shiloh sent astrotony.gif astrotony.gif ***


    [3:57:59 PM] Sirius 17: should i delete the chart without the lilith?
    [3:58:05 PM] Sirius 17: hers
    [3:58:18 PM] *** Shiloh sent SuiRok.jpg SuiRok.jpg ***

    [3:58:41 PM] Shiloh: Sure and not only is your Lilith conjunct her cosmically AS FAMILY; but also look what is on top of her BAD Dark Lilith Moon!? Can you see that her 'salvation' and 'Peace of Mind' is none other than a true Gemini Sun on top of her 'bad moon' so outpowering the negativity cosmically ordained? Now look at to where my Gemini Sun is and you might begin to understand some things even better. And also of course, why your Lilith in the Aries harmonises with my Gemini Sun in the Air whilst her Gemini Lilith in the Air of the Intellect cannot but war against its own 'redeemer'. Her Aquarius 'airy' Sun and her obsession to seek for the 'fiery' Aries complement in the Aqu-aries is nought but her subconscious 'burden' and 'calling'' from the cosmic Logos to forgo her mental vanity for actual cosmic cooperation, teamwork and genuine egalitarianism or equality. And as the Air feeds the Fire in the elemental quality; your Aries 'fiery' Lilith feeds of my Gemini 'airy' Sun; whilst her Gemini Lilith avoids and fights with its own elemental quality of the being the food for the fires of the stars. As you know the other elemental harmony is the water nourishing the earth element and Fire and Air and Water and Earth are always in celestial opposition for this purpose. Now ask yourself, what is the stronger energy; the Gemini Sun or the Dark Lilith Moon; the latter in actual astronomical terms being a mathematical construct of the averaging position of the Moon in its journey around the Earth. And what is the Earth, gravitationally 'superior' to the Lilith Moon, orbiting about? So the 'war of the minds' is no such thing, as the celestial laws have defined the outcomes from their beginnings of creation.

    Now this has a deeper encoding for all incarnates and especially for her fellow Logos deniers of course. Because this entire falsity construction of the 'Myth of Christianity' from The Zeitgeist mob Tsarion, Maxwell. Murdock-Joseph, Bonacci and followers and using 'support' from more qualified corners of the intelligentsia like Price, Hitchens, Dawkins and Harpur and from the de Volney and Massey and co sources from a hundred to twohundred years ago serves a deeper context for the cosmic Logos dispensation to polarise the 'human intelligence' or quality of thinking and discernment into the Christ-antichrist caps. De Volney and Massey and the 'older sources' frequently quoted by this Acharya S-D.M.Murdock 'female story writer' were quasi- or neo druids and instrumental behind the anti-Christian agenda of the 'astrotheology' morons, the latter basically 'worshipping the winter solstice' polluting the knowledge of the true druids, say from Stonehenge and ancient times and offshoots from this became mixed with theosophism and the 'Freemason' and 'Rosicrucian' streams of thought. So when they deceive the naïve nabsers with their 'Suns of God' being 'Sons of God', nonsense and blame religion and general, but the Christian one in particular for all the evils in the world; then you can figure out what this 'New Age (anti)religion' is really all about. But then there is also Lucider as the devil and the evil reptilians from wherever to blame for whatever their morose atrophied minds have conjured into memeplex existence.

    But in short, the denial of the Logos as physical reality is a lie and this lie is known to the souls of all deniers. Then the most naïve and gullible guru followers like 44 begin to feel this inner conflict between truth and falsehood and depending on their level of human vanity; they then try by all means to justify themselves and their belief systems in hiding their inner insecurities in all sorts of grandstandings and a conveyance of their 'cosmically ordained' superiority in 'seeing the truth' in honour and integrity. But we have known this and this has been evidenced even on this forum for a few years by now.
    Denying the World Logos as the Words of God and the Sword of the Dog (brilliant Brook here lol) amounts to looking to the physical stars and particular the Sun for 'redemption'. But as these last days have shown, someone not attuned to the historical Logos, yet good and brave at heart in truth, honour and integrity of self like Mudra and Brook can indeed 'evoke the power of the Sun', whilst false pretenders and double faced nabsers like 44 can but conjure up the real power of the Sun in their selfmade images and dreams of pretense and mindful self deceptions.
    I should add that Lilith in Gemini and in all signs carries of course also a global significance in the characteristics displayed.
    In particular Lilith travels the circle of the zodiac in 9 years and so occupies each sign for a period of 9/12=3/4 year or 9 months.
    And Lilith entered Gemini on September 12th, 2012 and was there across the December 21st, 2012 solstice at 11°4' degrees and stayed in Gemini until June 10th, 2013 for a 9 month period approximately. So the true-false 'Jekyll and Hyde' character of the Mayan nexus point manifested itself in the global and planetary noosphere or group consciousness as experienced.

    [3:59:35 PM] Sirius 17: oh that is something i did not notice before
    [3:59:46 PM] Sirius 17: your both pisces rising
    [4:00:02 PM] Shiloh: Yes lol and part of the 'whys'?
    [4:00:10 PM] Sirius 17: like james and i share the same ascendent
    [4:00:15 PM] Shiloh: But dont tell her, she wont listen to the truth
    [4:00:20 PM] Shiloh: YES
    [4:00:32 PM] Shiloh: And I did comment on this a year or so ago
    [4:01:06 PM] Shiloh: And the Natural House of the Dreamer is Pisces.
    [4:01:39 PM] Shiloh: So the shared dream of ancient times is rejected for the whimsicalities of ucadian fake heavens and fake dreams
    [4:01:40 PM] Sirius 17: oh nice yes
    [4:01:51 PM] Sirius 17: unfortunately
    [4:02:01 PM] Shiloh: Indeed
    [4:02:14 PM] Sirius 17: i like Roks ascendent
    [4:02:25 PM] Sirius 17: and his dragon node is there too
    [4:02:28 PM] Shiloh: But there is an ancient 'essence' now considered 'unworthy'
    [4:02:58 PM] Sirius 17: i hear you
    [4:03:20 PM] Sirius 17: we have been tossed in the junkpile, scrapheap dear
    [4:04:07 PM] Shiloh: The human rubbish pile yet can be the cosmic treasure, obscured in the Den of the Dragons
    [4:04:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes, buried pearls
    [4:05:47 PM] Shiloh: As those 'damned' scripture codes have proclaimed since this 'Age of Humanity' began so 7000 years ago
    But for balance, I shall also share the PISCES LILITH, which imo describes Susan the Exchanger to a dot and my 'nous' as well. Well if you can discern between the negative and positive manifestations, linked to experience you can then discern the validity of this description from a competent astrologer, its author Marie Dominique.
    This sounds like the Marie Antoinette, we know of lol.
    Remember that my Lilith is at 0°58' degrees Pisces AND in its own native 12th house of the Dreamer, albeit expressed by Aquarius (hint) and my Uranus in Leo as its ruler in the 6th Health/Pets and ET sector of native Virgo (definitive in a powerful Pluto-Moon conjunction of the cosmic desendant/sunset) and so the 'Earthy' opposition balance to my Dark Moon in 'Watery' Pisces. So I am indeed right at the beginning of this descriptor in a 'double whammy' aka twice the potency. So read what it says about the 'beginning' of Lilith in Pisces and you might see, that my claims for 'Logos affinity' are not at all unwarranted or 'arrogant' nor self-serving.
    Any reader interested, can check their 'Lilith sign' in the link provided in the above.

    Pisces, the kingdom of dreams, fantasy, sometimes utopia, far away from daily realities, the sign longs for unlimited horizons. Here Lilith activates the quest for infinity. She may be lived like an attraction for escape, flight. The native does not often know whose gifts are his, how to express them. He is afraid of all his unconscious inner forces. He has no control, moreover he has to adapt to daily life. Other people do not often see his inner troubles. The result may be a chronic disease creating a deep weariness that will oblige to break defenses and lies. Here we also have the medium or channel.
    It is an ambiguous gift: on a negative point of view, if the native has no mind protection he will be attacked by others negative energies in his unconsciousness, this being mainly seen with a lack of experience.
    On a positive point of view, the native handles his mediumship and protects himself from others. He has the power to feel the inner part of people, literally to see through their eyes.
    Here Lilith gives the ability to get information from the akashic memories: inspiration, mystic tendencies, clairvoyance. are some of the components of the personality. Hesitation, which is one of Pisces characteristics is showed by a pathological indecisiveness and is one of the problems the native will have to solve on the condition he gets rid of his fantasies, fears or people's domination.

    Virgo opposite Pisces will oblige the native to "go back" on earth and its daily reality. The earth sign will help to control, to analyse all the "data" the Pisces obtain, to separate fears, emotions, dreams from what is true and can be used in life.

    In past lives, the soul might have lived in a context where she was imposed to abandon her own desires, as Pisces also means sacrifice.
    The soul keeps the memory of a sacrificial behavior that led her to the ruin. It might as well be possible that the soul had lived in a spiritualism environment or was a clairvoyant, both having caused shocks and lack of equilibrium.

    Today the native tends to escape when the situation appears difficult instead of confronting it. The sleep may become a refuge as well as imagination. In very serious cases we find mental disease. As this parallel universe fascinates him, the native has the opportunity to express his gift in a work bound to psychiatry, psychology, nervous diseases, researches on drugs, coma.

    If Lilith is at the very beginning of Pisces, the native has a great intuitive and perceptive ability. This will help him to guide, to teach others, to have a moral or religious authority.

    If Lilith is at the very end of Pisces, the native has to clearly define what he wants to live and has to learn independence. This work will be done step by step, each new period starting with Black Moon's transit on its natal position (around 9 years cycle).

    Keywords: risk of a real or symbolic imprisonment - tendencies to health problems, to use drugs to escape from reality - search for a "wonderland" - bewitching magnetism - many love affairs - psychic troubles - meeting of pseudo guides - tendencies to nightmares, insomnia - prophecy gift - aura of mystery - wrong spiritual choices - illegality - in a feminine chart shows the glamorous woman.

    [4:06:56 PM] Sirius 17: aye
    [4:06:39 PM] Shiloh: I just cant get it right today
    [4:06:56 PM] Sirius 17: aye
    [4:07:07 PM] Sirius 17: well you have multiple copies i know
    [4:07:12 PM] Sirius 17: no worries hon
    [4:07:22 PM] Sirius 17: hmm this version of suiroks doesn't have the liliths
    [4:08:05 PM] Sirius 17: I like your pluto and uranus in leo
    [4:10:23 PM] Shiloh: Ok I have them individually but not together
    [4:10:51 PM] Shiloh: You want me to make a joined chart or send them individually
    [4:10:57 PM] Sirius 17: no
    [4:11:09 PM] Sirius 17: it would be nice but i don't want you to go to that much trouble
    [4:11:35 PM] Shiloh: There must be some meaning in this. I am sure I made a joined template before
    [4:11:55 PM] Shiloh: Not much trouble it takes me 2 minutes are so
    [4:12:05 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i thought you did
    [4:18:20 PM] *** Shiloh sent RokSui.jpg RokSui.jpg ***


    [4:18:28 PM] Shiloh: Opens ok and readable?
    [4:18:46 PM] Sirius 17: sec
    [4:19:33 PM] Sirius 17: ok yeah that one is much better
    [4:19:46 PM] Shiloh: Freshly constructed
    [4:21:04 PM] Sirius 17: where is Xeia's lilith?
    [4:21:23 PM] Sirius 17: oh wait nm it is in Libra
    [4:21:36 PM] Sirius 17: god what an astro chart she has
    [4:22:23 PM] Sirius 17: moon and uranus in libra
    [4:22:43 PM] Shiloh: Yes in the 6th and Xeia's chart is basically traditional with Aries house 1 and Pisces house 12
    [4:23:14 PM] Shiloh: Rok is Sextile to her chart in Rising Gemini
    [4:24:11 PM] Shiloh: Aries ascendant means a traditional cosmic base template
    [4:24:30 PM] Shiloh: Xeia is Aries Rising
    [4:24:47 PM] Sirius 17: really yeah i did not know that
    [4:25:07 PM] Sirius 17: i can see that with Charon in her 1st house also
    [4:25:10 PM] Shiloh: This is the basic thing to understand for any budding astrologer
    [4:26:01 PM] Shiloh: Yes Xeia's Chiron infers the 'Self healing'. Something she still searches for away from herself
    [4:26:07 PM] Shiloh: It is her cosmic Identity Core
    [4:26:18 PM] Sirius 17: Rok has an interesting lilith, he is far more sexy than he lets on
    [4:27:13 PM] Shiloh: His chart of the many empty houses yes. I commented on his Lilith the following way:
    [4:28:26 PM] Sirius 17: i have 6 empty houses, what do the empty houses mean again Tony?
    [4:29:03 PM] Shiloh: Dark Moon Lilith in the Aquarius house 8 of Sex, Death and Transformation is unaspected in the vacant sectors defining the Midheaven-Midnight as the signifier for the 5 empty houses 2-3-4-9-10 as a cosmic legacy to harmonize the opposing planetary stellums
    [4:30:08 PM] Shiloh: The ruler of the empty house is located elsewhere in the chart and so gives clues as to what the unaspected sector entails in the lifepath of the questioner
    [4:31:58 PM] Sirius 17: well sweety thank you for sharing all this with me
    [4:32:07 PM] Sirius 17: i know we have done this before
    [4:32:20 PM] Sirius 17: and i learn a little more each time
    [4:32:59 PM] Sirius 17: i am going to retire now though as James wants me to come to bed
    [4:34:13 PM] Shiloh: No problem and as this is one of our last sharings, I did not mind to get into some detail. As always it will be largely dismissed and unappreciated but such is the 'damnation' of the codes on the horizons of the human perceptions
    [4:34:33 PM] Sirius 17: so it is
    [4:34:41 PM] Shiloh: So Be It!
    [4:34:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes, let it be as they say
    [4:35:54 PM] Sirius 17: it is sad how much work you put into these and how unappreciated they are
    [4:36:41 PM] Sirius 17: i don't know if they realize this or not but average pay for astrologers is around $90 an hour now
    [4:36:49 PM] Sirius 17: not that you ever asked for money
    [4:36:51 PM] Sirius 17: or would
    [4:37:09 PM] Shiloh: My work is almost done and my contract has been honoured. Not all can say that about their 'agreements cosmic'. And all those shared charts are what I might call drafts and scratchy. They can or should be visually improved with proper chart technology of course. they are designed to give the 'nitty gritty' base data for the questioner in astrocode and this alone represents the lifepath and characteristic cosmic ID and contract of the native without the flashy presentations, one finds in many places. But as you know, despite the many naysayers who believe that Thuban somehow copies and pastes from other places and sources; the groundwork was and is all done from scratch and totally original and authentic. The most ok chart I made so far is perhaps that of Doug and I share it for comparisons. Though the ones of Melissa and Fates and Susan and JT are ok in certain aspects too.


    [4:37:17 PM] Sirius 17: but the simple fact that you cared enough to do this for us
    [4:37:23 PM] Sirius 17: means a lot to me
    [4:38:04 PM] Shiloh: Money never comes into the real dispensations of the true spirit of the Logos of all the Worlds
    [4:38:18 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [4:38:36 PM] Shiloh: If it is not free for all, then it is compromised and human authorized and made and not from the One Creator
    [4:38:50 PM] Sirius 17: amen
    [4:39:26 PM] Sirius 17: goodnight dear
    [4:39:31 PM] Sirius 17: evening for you
    [4:39:43 PM] Shiloh:

    Isaiah 55:1-3
    King James Version (KJV)

    1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

    2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

    3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

    [4:39:48 PM] Sirius 17: (heart)(F)(heart)(F)
    [4:40:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes that is a good one
    [4:40:21 PM] Sirius 17: Isaiah is full of goodies
    [4:41:05 PM] Sirius 17: Buenas Tonylove
    [4:41:59 PM] Shiloh:

    Revelation 22:16-21
    King James Version (KJV)

    16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

    17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

    [4:42:14 PM] Shiloh: Buenas Noches Juju
    Sirius 17

    Post last edited Apr 21st
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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Apr 22nd, 2014

    Sanicle wrote:An Easter present for you Shiloh. Here's a copy of my chart so you can analyze and criticize me to your heart's content. I find your comments illuminating (not only in relation to me) rather than offensive so please feel free to enjoy yourself. Maybe it will give you more knowledgeable grist for your mill.


    Hope you and Sirius17 both had a great Easter. herz.
    We create boundaries all around us on every level to protect ourselves and maintain control.
    When based on fear, the boundaries can become prisons for our Soul
    Beliefs can become a mental prison if too strictly held to, shutting out the Light

    Dear Sanicle!

    Gracias for your Easter Egg present princess from the Ice of Eire!
    Why do you perceive, I wish to analyse your cosmic contract to my heart's content? Your chart should show you, that your dark Moon Lilith resides at 9°14' in the elemental fiery sign of Leo and in your fifth house of Leo, who is native there, as are all your planetary placements.
    So it becomes something of a mystery why you should at all feel any sense of offense in my message, which described the placement of Dark Moon Lilith in two of the 12 signs of the Mazzaroth, namely Gemini and Pisces and did not mention Lilith in Leo at all.
    Your chart is traditionally aligned as the rising of the Ram in the March equinox in sidereal startime and this is something you might know or not at this stage of your journey in the worlds of the multi dimensional energy dynamics.

    Your Lilith so is in Leo in its second decad and so the 'challenging' characteristics as shared in the message above are certainly applicable to your Dark Moon placement.

    My co-worker Marie Dominique so has this comment for your Lilith Lass 'D Ice:

    Power, influence, and supremacy: Lilith emphasizes these in Leo. The native has to solve something regarding domination. Here is an ambiguity: fascination together with rejection of what is noble, luxurious and sumptuous. Because he likes them, the native needs to
    exert his influence on those who are around. He also feels with his heart those he loves and it gives to him the "inner knowledge of the things and the beings". He knows intuitively which way they have to follow and he wants to oblige them to take it. But things do not work, as he wants. Authoritarian on a paternalistic and kindly mode, the native has to learn how to let the others living and -sometimes - leaving... He has a thirst of power that he will never satisfy, as he would like, because there is an absolute impossibility for him to dictate to others. He will have to learn how to forget his own desires and his ego must be dissolved. The native may shine forth without being at the first place. The temptation of the personality cult is never far. The trap would be to exert anyway one's authority under the cover of great traditional or avant-gardist principles. He may be the center of a group, admired or idolized by the members. On the other hand the native may fight for ideas he does not apply in his own life, because he does not want to restrain imself and he wants to protect his ego. He may also feel an excessive need for intense pleasure, passion and power he will never satisfy. The instinctive power of self assertion comes back after every failure and each time the temptation to have again the same behavior is there. The native must control and restrain his instinctive strength.

    Aquarius - opposite to Leo - will impose to the native long-term objectives, will oblige to think, to calculate the consequences of actions, to cast doubt over his instinctive mode of action, to plan his behavior, to be conscious. Also there is an artistic potential to
    develop on another way. The native may be a teacher. In the past lives, the native might have exerted a power, sometimes at a high
    level. He also might have been an artist. Abusive power or crushing inferiority? Whatever was the contest, the soul has kept today an
    imprint which may feel her guilty when she is confronted to similar situations. She may aspire after power to the detriment of everything or she may fight against those who are despotic.

    If Lilith is between 0° and 2° of Leo, there is a rebirth, a new personality is born. But the movement can't be accelerated. The native goes through periods of fears where things are instinctively held (see Mars position on the Chart). Then he lives periods where he frees himself from past.

    If Lilith is between 28° and 30°00 of Leo, the native will try to use his influence through the word, to pass on his knowledge with the
    help of the Leo's innate authority, together with his try to adapt himself to other people and to reality. He has to find a new direction for his gifts in order to transform them and to serve the other people.

    Keywords : ambition - sexuality - cold will - megalomania - great vitality - arrogance - pushiness - success is often here but with trials in creativity and love affairs - heart and eyes are fragile.

    Lilith - the dark moon


    In the beginning was the Great Goddess, and the Goddess was the Earth, and the Earth was the Goddess. The origins of the cult of the Great Goddess lie hidden in the dim twilight of prehistoric time. The Goddess ruled for hundreds of thousands of years. In the course of time, the Mother-Goddess was overthrown and driven under, and the triumph of the most patriarchal of archetypes - Jahwe, God the Father, Allah - was complete in the Judaic, Christian and Moslem worlds. It was only in the tamed form of Mary, Mother of God, that some aspects of the Mother Goddess were permitted to survive. Various Black Madonnas in ancient sanctuaries still bear witness to her.
    The figure of Lilith represents one aspect of the Great Goddess. In ancient Babylon, she was worshipped as Lilitu, Ischtar or Lamaschtu. Jewish mythology already puts her into darker realms - an evil Demon of the night, a fitting mate for Satan, lying in wait for men, and killing children.

    The Astronomical Lilith

    The Moon travels along an elliptical path around the Earth. An ellipse has two focal points, and the other focal point, not occupied by the Earth has been called the Dark Moon, the Black Moon or Lilith. This is a slightly simplified definition, since, actually, the Moon and the Earth both move around their common centre of gravity, and the path of the Moon is not a neat ellipse, but a rather wobbly affair. One must distinguish between the mean orbit of the Moon, which is a slowly elongating ellipse, and the actual orbit, which vaccilates around the mean path, due to interference of various kinds. Just as there a "mean" and a "true" Lunar Node, so there is a "mean" and a "true" ellipse and a "mean" and a "true" Lilith. I write "true" in inverted commas, because the Moon's Node is only "true" about twice per month, when the Moon is actually on it, for the rest of the time, it is as "untrue" as the mean Node. In fact, when working with a point so close to the Earth, one should also take the great parallax into consideration, i.e. consider, from which point on the Earth one is actually looking at a point in the heavens. Astrology observes the planets geocentrically, as if from the Earth's centre, and not topocentrically, from the actual place of the observer.

    The Dark Moon has also been defined as the apogee of the Moon's orbit, or that point in the orbit farthest from the Earth. Both these points, the apogee and the second focal point, lie on the long axis of the orbital ellipse, the line of apsides. Seen from the Earth, they lie in the same direction, and therefore occupy the same place in the zodiac. The second focal point lies at a distance only about 36´000 km from the Earth, the apogee at about 400´000 km. Apart from this, both definitions can be regarded as being equivalent. Because the orbit of the Moon continually shifts forward in space, the Dark Moon moves along the zodiac at about 40° per year. A complete revolution takes 8 years and 10 months.

    Lilith in the Chart

    The glyph used for Lilith is a black Moon, as opposed to that used for the real Moon. Lilith is included in the chart drawing Type 2.AC, some other drawing types, such as 2.AT show Lilith in the table of planetary positions.


    Interpreting Lilith

    "During my years of astrological practice, I have come to use the Dark Moon in all my chart analyses, as a complement to interpretating the Moon. It would never occur to me to neglect this influence. The Dark Moon describes our relationship to the absolute, to sacrifice as such, and shows how we let go. In transit, the Dark Moon indicates some form of castration or frustration, frequently in the areas of desire, a powerlessness of the psyche, or a general inhibition. On the other hand, it shows where we question ourselves, our lives, our jobs, and our beliefs. I feel this is important, since it gives us the opportunity to "let go" of something. The Dark Moon shows where we can let the Whole flow into our selves, without putting an "I" in the way, without putting up a wall in the form of ego. At the same time, it doesn't indicate passivity - on the contrary - it symbolizes the firm will to be open and trusting, to let the Greater World flow through one, relying entirely on the great laws of the universe, on that which we name God. To prepare us for this opening, the Dark Moon creates a necessary void."

    (Joëlle de Gravelaine in "Lilith und das Loslassen", Astrologie Heute Nr. 23)


    BC0. BC1. BC2.
    lil4. lil5. lil6.

    Your chart does indeed reveal many details regarding your cosmic journey dear one. Your planetary placements are focused at the Nadir or the Midnight Sun of the Celestial Cycle and your four-planetary stellum at this lowest point of the celestial night indicate to the zodiacal magician, just where your starhuman destiny lies and resides and the journey it is engaging in.
    As Thuban astroanalysis uses equal houses and not the latitude charts of say Placidus and Koch, some of your sector alignments might differ slightly in the Dragon chart. But I see, that the latidude correction applied keeps the sectors of Placidus correct to say 1-2 degrees and no further adjustments are necessitated and your chart is valid as presented in the astroanalysis de Thuban.
    You so have two conjunctions at your midnight sun, namely Sun and Venus in Gemini, almost exact at 1° with Uranus and Mercury in Cancer to 2 degrees. The two conjunctions are separated and mirrored by the Nadir close at the Gemini-Cancer cusp.

    Now the significance of your Midnight Sun is given by your Mercury-retroChiron opposition, which is exact. This might show you that your sojourn through the celestial night is deeply affected by the Cosmic healer in Capricorn and the sign of the native Father opposed to your Cosmic Mother in your Cancerian Mercury and messenger from your inner self and worlds of your subconscious memories.
    Because Chiron is retrograde, Chiron and in association with your Jupiter in Taurus trine to Chiron in the elemental Earth has some difficulties mitigated to 'shine the light of the Midday Sun' onto your planetary party of the Midnight Sun. Jupiters joviality cannot as yet participate as a second Sun of the daylight to add some dragon fire to the parties gathered in the dark. But being in your house of the possessions, old Zeus will not 'go away' and his lightning bolts are for you to keep for the completion of your journey and agency.

    A clause in your cosmic contract, still largely unknown by you engages your cosmic lifepath to serve the lower dimensional density expressions in 'healing a particular occurrence' in your 'karmic past'. In other words 'healing yourself from past patterns cosmically manifested' will also heal the environmental associations you are familiar with and which to a great extent are attempting to awaken certain remembrances within your psyche and self perception.

    This 'event' can best be described as a kind of 'abuse of power' involving your Lilith in the House of the King of the Jungle. Now you also find the 'Grim Reaper of Times and Places' there. Pluto in Leo in the 5th house of the 'Affairs and Creativity' emphasizes the 'House of Leo' , but interconnects with its own harbour of the 8th House of Death and Sex, legacy and Transformations. And who is there to emphasize your past and somewhat suppressed present? None other than the ancient ruler of Scorpio in impulsive and warrior like Mars.
    Your Scorpionian Mars so occupies the sign of the darkest secrets, yet hisher impulsive nature disallows much of this murky secrecy. Mars does however substitute the desires native to the sector of the Scorpio-Eagle by his 'lust' for war and battles of divers kinds. Your Mars is also in opposition to your 'great mate' Jupiter at 10° Taurus in the 2nd house and so many times those two do not see eye to eye and especially, when you are trying to suppress old Jove's gregarious nature to have fun and join the parties and those parties include the pleasures which can be experienced by your goddess body form of Zeusina, who can be said to be the 'object and subject' of Jupiter's desires.

    And there are causes for this and they relate to your past and some of which you have tried for a long time to forget; but it just refuses to go away. because in your past you had a zodiacal disposition, when many more aspects and planets were present in your 1st house of the Cosmic Identity and an ID which becomes necessitated to express itself in what is comprehensively called the human egocentricity.

    You see this time around, your sanctified soul consciousness has decided to forgo the emphasis on personal self domination in providing you with a worldy self empowerment to express yourself. Instead the fairies have sprinkled their angel dust on your inner partnership with yourself in the 7th sector of cosmic partnership and 'marriage'. This becomes empowered and invigorated by your Saturn-Neptune conjunction in the House of Libra there. Now this conjunction is at 10 degrees and with Neptune retrograde as well, the cosmic matrimony between yourself and yours is not as easy as it could be. Neptune being a symbol for cosmic and personality extending love, whilst Venus is more individualistic as your personal love more 'worldly'. So your reverse Neptune is slowing down any efforts you might undertake to simply 'substitute' Venusian 'worldly love and associated partnership commitments with a 'superlative' or 'higher form of love' and desires.

    And therein also lies a key you have discovered, without realising where it came from. You are well aware of your impressions and feelings seemingly appearing from nowhere in particular at times. This 'someplace' is however a rather unique place, you have discovered and named as having to do with elemental energies and even the motto of: 'There be dragons!"
    Now why is this and where does this come from you have asked yourself many a times?

    And astrological competent will be able to tell you, that your feelings and your emotional lifepath is greatly influenced by the Moon. Now where is your Moon?
    Your Moon is at 26°20' in your House of the possessions in the sign of Taurus and a sign of the elemental Earth. As you have seen your Jupiter there is trine to the 'obscure' Father of your healing Mode in your reversed Chiron in your Capricornian Earth. So this is a 'cosmic helping hand' for your ongoing party under the Moonlight of the Midnight Sun.
    But now look what is Square your Midnight Moon and at 23°06' in the Airy fairy sign of Aquarius?
    It is the Dragon Node of the New Moon so powerfully interfering with your comfortable Full Moon in Taurus and native as your comfort zone as the Cancerian Cosmic Motherhood.

    Then your Taurus Full Moon, being sextiles to its ruling sign of Cancer, BUT being square to its own lunar phase in the New Moon in the dragon node of Aquarius causes a certain amount of havoc between the elemental energies.
    The Water of the Mother nourishes the Earth of your Full Moon and so your emotions and feelings towards those two elements. But no matter, how hard you try, you cant connect the Waters of Cancer as the 'Gate of Baab' and your comic Mother to the Earth of Capricorn as Abba, and as your cosmic Father.

    Because as you are trying to connect your cosmic parenthood, you encounter the squaring of the Dragon in the elemental sign of the Air of the Communication and the heralding messenger.
    The Dragon head says to you: "Bring me the Fire Icey princess de Eire; so that I might be able to feed and nourish the 'New World' we both aspire to. I am your elemental dragon, but I have nothing to eat. Cannot you remember that you are in partnership with us airborne dragons through your cosmic contract of the Libraen partnerships of the 7th realm of the 12 mansions of the Mazzaroth?"

    And so you might recall what I have said in the earlier message of what is different about the 'New Astology' for a 'New World' under the auspices and agencies of the Dragons and Elders from Thuban. You might also remember old Abraxas, who is providing you with answers, you cannot obtain from any other sources. The New Moon is the dragon ruler for the 7th House in any chart of the cosmic aspirants and acolytes. The Traditional House of Libra is no longer 'ruled' under cosmic law by Venus-Lucifer as the 'Star of the Morning or Sunrise/Dawn', but is now ruled by Vulcan-Hephaestus-Lucifera as the 'Star of the Evening or Sunset'.

    And is not the 'Rise of the Sun' your Aries Ascendant of the 1st House opposite your 7th House of the 'Setting of the Sun' in the Descendent of Libra's New Moon being 180 degrees apart from its semiphase of the Full Moon of your 'Missing Cosmic ID'?

    Is not your birth into this world of 'Bodies in Preparation' on the 'Longest day of the year' relative to the Southern hemisphere and so at the June Solstice of the annual cycle of the planetary orb around its Sun? Your cosmic contract and agency engages such an ambassadoraship of 'being on the cusp'. Some term it 'being out on a limb' and similar.
    But your Gemini-Cancer transit is archetyped by the Messenger conveying the message to the Mother and as you know this messenger is androgenous as the Shehe of the Cosmic Twinship or Hermaphroditus from the goddess of Love in Aphrodite-Venus and Hermes Trismegistos for Hephaestus.
    And what is the message of Hermes to you Lass d' Ice?
    It is: "Ride my Dragons dear Mother, Father is waiting and expecting you!"

    Well dear one; your missing cosmic identification is found in your success of reuniting your cosmic Father Abba with your cosmic Mother Baab. Your Leonine Lilith as your Dark Moon of your forgetfulness, so has found its reharmonization in betwixt your Full Moon of your well known Mother of the Elements and your New Moon of the Dragon Element of your 'Airy Fairs' feeding your 'Fiery Yangs' and your 'Watery Sprites' nourishing your 'Earthy Yins'.

    Your Dragon Family from the Stars!

    The Wings of Maria and Solomon's Song !

    A new day is breaking across the plains of the desert, Maria's golden dawn to greet;
    like a lush green meadow, Bathsheba is awaiting the dewdrops, deliciously sweet.
    It's Solomon's flowery nectar, growing in a valley of memories forgotten for so long;
    where a beautiful song is playing, birthing a new world for our sweet Maria to belong.

    Out in the dry desert, a caravan of camels paces steadily towards its vermilion oasis;
    a mighty rock, telling its tales of old, when wisdom still was found in hidden places.
    Baiame, the serpent's rainbow is arching across a glorious sky, shining in hues azure;
    and there's Maria, a flower from the desert with her love to share so gently and demure.

    Merlin, the crimson dingo has come to the great meet, with stories of a redrosy sky;
    so many desertdwellers to share in adventures, hearing a majestic eagle's eerie cry.
    Amidst the gathering is our queen, dancing to the mother's calling, love's own tune;
    What a celebration at the edge of nowhere, this wedding betwixt the sun and the moon.

    Jonathan, the emu has arrived with a message about Maria from the heavens above;
    the dragon's friends are found all about, guided in the peace of the snowwhite dove.
    There is Toby, the alabaster unicorn, pacing for Maria's mounting and to elope away;
    into a realm of lofty mountains, where the regal eagle's loveplay always holds sway.

    Excalibur, the sword of truth has broken forth to swiftly rent the veils holding asunder;
    a mighty tempest sweeps across a forlorn land, a world shaken in lightning and thunder.
    Maria's dreams of love and sublime desires, all have sprouted upon Pegasusian wings;
    from the heights of peaky treetops and of oaken branches, where the nightingale sings.

    You pretty pink flamingo, wading by across the shores of longings, bubbling all adrift;
    if you'd just fathom the inner essence of your glory, your ecstacy would come so swift.
    Upon the wings of Solomon, you shall find the Dragon's daughter's passage to be free;
    oh sweet remembrance of the days of old, Maria of Jerusalem has found her lost key.

    The name of the Mother's poem is your own; your courting troubadour so fit to see;
    a dawning of love's joy in all is splendour, so devoted and wondrously in wait for thee!

    {Composed by shilohaplace and of the Libray of Akbar Ra de Thuban}

    shiloh hidden-09.
    Wow Shiloh, I didn’t expect you to take the time and trouble to type out for me your partial interpretation of my chart. That’s very generous of you, so thank you. I found it most illuminating, not having gotten around to studying the fixed planets myself. I had to laugh though when I read that you find it a mystery why I posted this chart for you to “analyze and criticize me to your heart's content”. So you don’t even remember the comments, quoted below, that you wrote in relation to my good self in the previous post? That sort of compounds the point I’m making in a way.

    [3:16:10 PM] Shiloh: All astrological charts are manifestoes of elemental energies. Sanicle would like this lol
    [3:16:32 PM] Shiloh: But she has her human filtered ideas of just what elementals are
    [3:17:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes the little fairy folk and forest sprites
    [3:17:56 PM] Sirius 17: i used to paint and draw them all the time
    [3:18:11 PM] Sirius 17: i loved fairys
    [3:18:26 PM] Sirius 17: well i still do, especially now that i have become one
    [3:18:34 PM] Sirius 17: hehe
    [3:18:39 PM] Shiloh: Well not far off anyway; just look at Findhorn
    [3:18:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes i read the book
    [3:19:19 PM] Shiloh: But her antimale ideas derive from obnoxious memeplexes, she misidentifies as benevolent guides and wisdom sharers and so on
    [3:19:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes she gives too much power to the voices in her head
    [3:19:51 PM] Sirius 17: instead of being the master
    [3:20:08 PM] Shiloh: Indeed.

    The thing is, if you’re going to make comments like this, I would much prefer they come from an informed stance re who I am and what I’m doing rather than from such a necessarily superficial perspective of who I am. For instance …….. anti-male? No my friend. I have plenty of male energy around me, which I love, in the mirror world. I think you might agree that male dragons would epitomize primal masculine energy to an extreme degree. And that’s not to mention other male entities that I spend time with there. But yes, I am wary of being dominated by them, as I believe one should be. With these beings, I don’t seem to have that problem however. (Well, the ones I did have that problem with aren't a problem any longer icon_wink. ).

    Anyway, it was made very clear in that post also that you are an intelligent and adept astrologer, so I figured the best way to give you that more “informed” perspective was to show you my chart. I’ve studied astrology myself to some degree so I know that my chart would explain a great deal to you about why I do the things I do. The hope is, of course, that you might in future refrain from making such negatively- shaded comments about any of us here on the forum in realizing that you might be mistaken in judging motivations behind why we do and say what we do here.

    I’d prefer you to know my truth rather than guess and express judgements, which you must admit can be a little derogatory, for all to see and remember this in relation to others you might feel inclined to comment on as well. Maybe you don’t know them as well as you think you do either. It just seems unfair to me.

    Love the poem too, written while in “charmer mode” no doubt. Courtesy of your Piscean Ascendant? Yet more proof that you are indeed an intelligent and accomplished man. Hats off to you Tony. And I mean that sincerely.

    Sanicle wrote:Shiloh

    I just want (and need) to say thank you for introducing me to Lilith astrologically. She’s been a bit of a revelation, particularly when I use her as ruler of Libra where, to me, she seems to fit so perfectly given her story in which she opposes the Arian archetype that Adam truly does seem to fit so well in that same story. (Also in squaring Capricorn and Cancer.)

    With Lilith ruling Libra, I’ve found that interpretation of the charts of my family and friends flows more easily than ever before. The placements all just suddenly made perfect sense. In fact with Lilith ruling Libra, to my mind, the evolution of not only an individual (as male/female) but the story of evolution for humanity in this reality is visible. Having her rule seven and the ‘different’ (but more realistic) dynamic she gives to partnerships there also explains more readily the issues one faces in the eighth as well. The flow on from seven to eight has never really been a ‘natural progression’ before to my mind but now is easy to see.

    I know you believe Vulcan rules the seventh and I truly don’t mean to be contrary (yet again) to your beliefs by posting this message here on this thread. I just really, really wanted to attempt to show you generally why I’m so grateful so you’d know my gratitude is heartfelt when you can see how much interpreting charts has been revolutionized for me by adding Lilith.

    BTW my daughter wanted me to thank you also. When I re-interpreted her chart in this light, the pattern of her life suddenly made a great deal more sense to her, profoundly so. Her partner’s did also and the inter-relations between them. Grateful tears were shed.

    I remember feeling similarly overjoyed when I was introduced to Chiron, the bridge to the outer planets (ie energy from beyond our 'normal' range of experience), as he filled in a lot of gaps in the charts revealing the whys and wherefores of the suffering experienced in our human form in this reality that only letting go of it can heal. And now there’s Lilith, filling in the rest. IMO, the problems associated with the repression of the Goddess energies have been needed in our charts for a long, long time to fully understand the dynamics of male and female energies (carrying the often instinctive urge to fight such inequality). I can see now how charts read without her have served to back up male dominant conditioning.

    So please just accept my gratitude… no strings attached, no comments necessary, no arguments or approval looked for. 157623.

    You are welcome Ice Princess!

    If you read my message and description more carefully; then you will find that the new rulership for Libra is the New Moon AS the Dragon Node head. And as the mothersign is ruled by the Full Moon of Cancer for millennia; the Lilith Dark Moon can be said to LINK the phases of the moon and so the old full moon as the Mother and the new new moon as the Father and so creating a 'cosmic' parenthood between them and so supplementing the ancient Saturn ruling Capricorn fatherhood so often associated with male domination of the feminine and the patriarchy of a 'fake god' aka some naming of the 'devil'.

    So because the Dragon Head becomes the New Moon mirrored by Lilith as the 'New Ruling Balance', the Dragon Tail must of course become the Full Moon in the lunar cycles. Those cycles are the 29½ days and also the Saros and Metonic cycles of the eclipses and the the 20 lunar years of Nostradamus as say 19 year solar cycles.
    A lunar year is 5 days shorter than a 'Degree year of 360 days; whilst a solar year is 5 days longer in 355+5=360 and 360+5=365. Those are the 5 days of Thoth playing checkers with Ra over the fertility of Shu and Tefnut , you can ask Brook about.

    So you might be able to see the harmonies in how the lunar and solar calendars and timekeepers are cosmically unified by the Mirror of Lilith. So Lilith becomes the Unifier for ALL cosmic partnerships AND rules the 7th House of partnerships, just as your reading of charts has indicated to you.

    With Vulcan I simply used the maleness of Venus and Venus remains as the ruler of Taurus. So Vulcan-Hephaestus symbolises the cosmic fatherhood of Taurus astrologically and Venus-Aphrodite refers to the cosmic motherhood.
    Lilith then can also be assigned the 'Cosmic Androgyne' (in this your E Dragon has discerned the deeper cosmic nature very well) and say as signified by Hermes-Mercury for the zodiacal Gemini however also carrying as Hermenia-Mercuria in the Hermaphroditus of Hermes and Aphrodite becoming imaged in Castor and Pollux as the celestial twins.

    Simply render one of the 'brothers' female as a heshe or a brothersister and you are beginning to experience and witness the true nature of the cosmic creations. The mortality of Castor then becomes 'ascended' in the immortality of Pollux as Pollux-Castoria with Castor-Polluxia or some renaming like that.

    The great fallacy of the male-female sexism and schism has been used by the 'Devil Mind' for millennia to confuse this natural separation of the 'cosmic sexes'. The 'Devil' has convinced many human cocreators to see the 'escape' from duality as some form of denial of the physicality and the necessity to choose either the 'spirit' or the 'flesh'. This 'either or' choice is a big lie; because the 'either or' will become a 'and or both' in a doubling of the entire creation. And this is nought but the resolution of the Quantum duality paradox and the 'Chicken-Egg' conundrum or the 'RNA before DNA' question or the Descartian 'Body-Mind' separation.

    Just like your ring has two separated sides of inner and outer, BUT can be doubled in cutting it at some place and twisting one end by 180 degrees before welding it together again in such a way. Suddenly the inside if your ring is connected and continuous with its outside.

    Now read Genesis 1.7 and you know what this 'great divide' of the waters really is or was until it can be redefined, and recreated.
    And this rewording say, is what the 'scripture codes' according to Thuban are all about and that as their true logistics. A new 'cosmic lawfulness' must be made in a legislative process before this new lawfulness can be given executive status in a new form of jurisprudence - and this becomes a 'New World' or 'KingDoMMoDQueen' for all experiencers therein.


    Genesis.1.7:- KJV
    7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

    (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

    (22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
    They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
    Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

    (29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

    (89) Jesus said, "Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Do you not realize that he who made the inside is the same one who made the outside?"

    Peacefulness of the Eagles of Solomon's garden to you! May your forest be filled with enchantments and splendiferous experiences between thinking hearts and feeling minds, both WITHIN and WITHOUT your cosmic self!


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    empty. Sanicle Yesterday at 6:35 am
    Thank you for clarifying that point for me Shiloh. I did get a bit confused with all the different names you use lol........obviously. I'm glad all of this came out of (it would seem) that Grand Cross being conjunct my Uranus in Cancer (and thus aspecting my T-Square re Capricorn and Libra also) at the time I posted my chart for your perusal. I do love the way the Universe works to aid us in such unforeseen ways. icon_cheers.

    It's been nice to be able to communicate with you in a language I'm more in harmony with than those you normally use. I feel that, from an astrological viewpoint at least, I can now understand more where Thubans are coming from and appreciate the insights you've given me, and hopefully others along the way.


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    empty. Brook Today at 11:18 am
    A lunar year is 5 days shorter than a 'Degree year of 360 days; whilst a solar year is 5 days longer in 355+5=360 and 360+5=365. Those are the 5 days of Thoth playing checkers with Ra over the fertility of Shu and Tefnut , you can ask Brook about.

    Ask Brook About what? I know extremely little about astrology. But I know star maps of the Ancient sort. I know the double meaning of one in particular which depicts Chaos theory and oscillation there of.

    In fact...I know far more than you perhaps give me credit for? As recorded conversations of the Thubans suggest...lack of intelligence? Whoa!

    Yet I've remained silent for the most part lately.

    The Silence of the Path


    The Sun/Son gives best results!

    The Path/Ptah:

    Makes no real distinction between body and soul. Body simply extends into the invisible world radiating out in every direction of the Universe.

    How much can we Perceive?

    Perception overload/adjustment/sequence

    Life on the Path is a craft, the aimless wandering of the Fool.

    The only unnumbered card; The master of the descending Path, Master of Life.


    Living the Path is finding the energies identified with. Weaving them together in a tapestry by way of the psyche and life's experience.

    The work and play of doing this is a strength and healing force. Work/Play engages the imagination.


    Perception by way of the deft art of the Magician


    The Silence of the Path reaches a deafening crescendo! While walking the path deciding which way to go addressing all options to achieve the stars as Shi Shen ... and ultimately the world;

    The foundation of the Path/Ptah is Compassion

    (Put your headphones on for this one)


    Ubiquitous Frequency Oscillation



    No matter what the perception of intelligence or otherwise:

    I want to

    Shi Shen, The ancient Egyptians and the writing on the walls. All left to our

    Children's Children's Children...

    With the eyes of a child you will see said the blind man.

    The only way out is in

    The Dead King is a horizon dweller: has a
    seat in the horizon, and takes possession of the horizon

    so that those who are in the horizon may live for this spirit

    "My power is in the horizon"

    (Coffin Texts)


    Peripheral Sensor/Surface

    Peripheral: Of, relating to, or situated on the edge or periphery of something.

    Redefining the Horizon


    Event horizon of a black hole!

    A quantum parallel exists between the transformed Deceased and Hawking radiance in the bulk, proposing the existence of large extra dimensions in small black holes.

    Ya think Shi Shen and those wily Egyptians were on to something?

    Shi Shen.............


    John with Robin Williams





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    empty. Sanicle Today at 5:28 pm
    Don't worry Brook. The Thuban Dragons will figure it out eventually. Even true Dragons learn that arrogance doesn't serve them. They are either shunned or put down.

    IMO arrogance is the cause for every battle that ever was, is or will be. Something I'm sure Lilith knows all about.

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Apr 23rd

    13 Days of Thomas Didymos and 3 Mirrors of the Cosmic Seders of the Twin Logos


    The Star of Bethlehem and Christian Mythology

    The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi

    "The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi has stunning new insight and approach, which finally gives a confident answer to a question that has fascinated all Christians through the ages. ... don't buy any other book on the Star of Bethlehem, because the old astronomical views are guaranteed to be irrelevant." — Prof. Bradley E. Schaefer, Yale University

    Could the purchase of an ancient coin have led to an important clue about the Star of Bethlehem? The above illustration is a Roman coin from Antioch, Syria which shows the zodiacal sign, Aries the Ram. In trying to understand the meaning behind this coin, I found that Aries was the sign of the Jews. Realizing that this is where ancient stargazers would have watched for the Star of Bethlehem, I embarked on searching for the celestial event that signified the birth of the Messiah in Judea.

    Superposed on the photograph of the coin is what I found: Jupiter underwent two occultations ("eclipses") by the Moon in Aries in 6 BC. Jupiter was the regal "star" that conferred kingships - a power that was amplified when Jupiter was in close conjunctions with the Moon. The second occultation on April 17 coincided precisely when Jupiter was "in the east," a condition mentioned twice in the biblical account about the Star of Bethlehem. In August of that year Jupiter became stationary and then "went before" through Aries where it became stationary again on December 19, 6 BC. This is when the regal planet "stood over." - a secondary royal portent also described in the Bible. In particular, there is confirmation from a Roman astrologer that the conditions of April 17, 6 BC were believed to herald the birth of a divine, immortal, and omnipotent person born under the sign of the Jews, which we now know was Aries the Ram. Furthermore, the coins of Antioch and ancient astrological documents show that there was indeed a Star of Bethlehem as reported in the biblical account of Matthew.

    "The Star of Bethlehem is a fascinating contribution to the immense literature that attempts to come to terms with the Christmas star reported in Matthew's Gospel. In my opinion, this book is the most original and important contribution of the entire 20th century on the thorny question of how events recorded there should be interpreted." - Prof. Owen Gingerich, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

    The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi is published by Rutgers University Press. (ISBN: 0-8135-2701-5) In the book you will see why the star was not a comet or supernova. Nor was it the famous "triple conjunction." The practices and beliefs of astrologers during Herod's reign show why Jupiter and the planets in Aries the Ram on April 17, 6 BC signified a Messianic birth. You will also find confirmation by a Roman astrologer, Firmicus Maternus, that the conditions of that day when Jupiter was in the east were those for the birth of a "divine and immortal" person. The evidence is that Firmicus was a Christian convert, and I argue that he had the birth of Jesus in mind. The book also explains how astrologers interpreted Emperor Nero's horoscope to predict that he was to survive his overthrow and rise up in Judea - a story that evolved into tales about the antichrist. Finally, I explain the relationship of the coins of Antioch to the Star of Bethlehem and the census of Quirinius described in Luke.

    "In support of an original interpretation of the Star, Molnar has assembled an impressive range of astrological and numismatic data, much of which will be new even to expert readers." - Prof. Virginia Trimble, University of California, Irvine and University of Maryland, and author of Visit to a Small Universe.


    New Theory on the Christmas Star
    Published: December 22, 1991

    A RUTGERS astronomer thinks he may have stumbled onto the scientific explanation of the Christmas star. In an article appearing in next month's issue of Sky & Telescope magazine, the astronomer, Dr. Michael Molnar, manager of the physics instructional labs at Rutgers, argues that the star that led the Magi to Bethlehem was actually the moon eclipsing the planet Jupiter.
    Since the issue reached the newsstands two weeks ago, Dr. Molnar's theory has provoked angry letters from some Christians and attracted attention from as far away as the British Broadcasting Corporation in London.
    It is the most recent of dozens of theories that have been advanced over the years to explain the mystery of the star of Bethlehem.
    Dr. Molnar said he had made his findings almost accidentally. A numismatics buff, he had been examining ancient Roman coins for evidence of celestial events when he came across a group of coins from Antioch, the capital of the Roman province of Syria, that dated to the early first century A.D. The coins bore the image of Aries, the ram of the zodiac, looking back at a star or a crescent and a star.

    From additional research, Dr. Molnar learned that Aries was a symbol of Judea at the time and that ancient astrologers believed that a new king would be born when the moon passed in front of Jupiter.
    "I asked myself that if astrologers during those times were looking to the sign of the zodiac as a clue of what was going on in Judea, could it be that the Magi, who were believed to be astrologers, were also looking to the same constellation for a sign indicating that a new king of Judea was born?" Dr. Molnar said.
    The Bible mentions that the star seen by the Magi reappears and settles above Bethlehem. In a computerized search, Dr. Molnar was able to scan the skies of nearly 2,000 years ago to see if the moon had crossed Jupiter's path twice over a short period of time.
    "My prediction was exactly fulfilled," Dr. Molnar said. "On March 20, 6 B.C., right at sunset, the moon eclipsed the planet Jupiter, and one month later, on April 17, the event occurred again, this time high in the sky at noon in the direction of Bethlehem as viewed from Jerusalem."
    Dr. Molnar said that the occultations would not have been visible because of the bright sunlight, but that the Magi would have had the knowledge to track them anyway.
    Astronomers have been offering scientific explanations for the Christmas star for centuries. In one of the oldest theories, dating to the 1600's, the German astronomer Johannes Kepler maintained that the star was a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn that occurred in 7 B.C.
    Another theory has it that the light that guided the Magi came from a supernova, a star that undergoes a tremendous explosion. Others have suggested that it was merely a comet or the planet Venus. 'Certainly Plausible' Thesis
    Roger Sinnott, who edited Dr. Molnar's piece for Sky & Telescope, said that the astronomical calculations Dr. Molnar made in his article had been checked for accuracy and that the eclipses had occurred as stated. While calling Dr. Molnar's thesis "certainly plausible," he said he was nevertheless partial to another explanation.
    "I wrote an article, and I kind of like my own theories better," Mr. Sinnott said, referring to his account, first published in 1968, that said the Christmas star was in reality a very close conjunction of Jupiter and Venus.


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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Apr 26th

    Lunar Contact

    January 24, 2014

    Google Moon Sighting is kept hush hush.

    The voice you are about to hear is that of “Dr. Eric Norton,” who claims to be a consultant for the National Security Agency (NSA) and NASA. Norton describes the objects he witnessed in 2013 as well as NASA’s overall behavior, as well as his concern for being monitored by the NSA for a period of 6 months.. He was called in by NASA to help monitor at the MacDonald Observatory in Texas. This audio recording and interview sounds authentic to me, and Norton sounds concerned for magnitude of the secrecy. What is NASA and the NSA covering up? Is it possibly anything to do with UFO disclosure, or worse yet, are these missions to Mars and Earth’s moon revolving around a more sinister agenda such as continued spying on the globe , mining of the moon, and terraforming Mars.

    Testimony of Dr. Eric Norton

    “What I saw was an array of massive, three-dimensional, black structures in space, in straight-line formation, advancing in direction of planet Earth,” he said. He was shown the objects over a three-month period and saw they “had moved millions upon millions of miles closer within just months.”
    “Analysing the objects, he and his team hypothesized that they must be made of a material several thousand times as hard as the hardest materials known to humans on Earth.The objects have been a cause of great concern, Norton said, with many questions arising and few answers. “Turner Radio Network

    Dr. Eric Norton said ” I need to be careful as to what information I give out to the public so I can protect myself.” What Norton has found are ”some chilling observations!” He states ” This would be a concern if revealed to the public. It would not only change the game forever, and we’re not just talking about the break down of all religions and total over all of everything we have ever known about the universe and space but we are talking about the breakdown of society itself.”

    Norton goes on to say that “We are talking about a subject matter ,that even up until today carries with it a level of disbelief amongst the majority of the world wide community.”

    THE U.S. government used the MacDonald Observatory in Texas to the approach of two of these enormous objects for two years, January 2013, the objects were within 200,000 miles of Mars when they vanished.
    Listen now:(Photos are also included in the interview)

    The audio track SOURCE: TRN obtained photos of the unknown spacecraft as well as the audio interview with Norton.
    “At least one enormous object of unknown origin has been visually verified as having landed on our moon. As a result, on Wednesday, January 15, three Terrier-Orion rockets blasted off within a span of 20 seconds from NASA’s Wallops Flight Facility between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. EST (0600 to 1000 GMT) on hush-hush missions for the Department of Defense (DoD).
    TRN has obtained photos of the unknown spacecraft and has an audio interview with an outside consultant from NASA’s Meteoroid Environment Office (MEO) who confirms that for almost two years the U.S. government used the MacDonald Observatory in Texas to track the approach of two of these enormous objects. A year ago, in January 2013, the objects had gotten to within 200,000 miles of Mars when they suddenly vanished.
    Craft on The Moon

    “At least one enormous object of unknown origin has been visually verified as having landed on our moon. As a result, on Wednesday, January 15, three Terrier-Orion rockets blasted off within a span of 20 seconds from NASA’s Wallops Flight Facility between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. EST (0600 to 1000 GMT) on hush-hush missions for the Department of Defense (DoD).
    TRN has obtained photos of the unknown spacecraft and has an audio interview with an outside consultant from NASA’s Meteoroid Environment Office (MEO) who confirms that for almost two years the U.S. government used the MacDonald Observatory in Texas to track the approach of two of these enormous objects. A year ago, in January 2013, the objects had gotten to within 200,000 miles of Mars when they suddenly vanished.

    Realizing these two craft were approaching earth and might not be visible to NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbital Camera (LROC) depending upon where they went, the Government reactivated the previously cancelled Lunar Atmosphere and Dust Environment Explorer (LADEE) to be launched to the moon on September 6, 2013. It took almost 100 days for LADEE to be placed into proper lunar orbit. By December, 2013, both LADEE and the LROC found at least one of the two enormous objects had landed on the moon, in a crater the size of the City of Chicago.
    All of this was kept secret until, quite by accident, the LROC images (which are generally made public) were uploaded to the publicly available GoogleMoon service, where intrepid users came upon the enormous object. Now, the whole world can see this “object” on the moon — the secret is out. Read more here: http://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/522/Enormous-Craft-Detected-On-Moon-The-Secret-Is-Out-Photos-
    Co-ords: Image credit – Google Earth (Moon ) http://www.google.com/moon/
    22°42’38.46″N ,142°34’44.52’E​


    Published on Nov 9, 2013

    PLEASE READ BETWEEN THE LINES while watching this doc.
    This documentary is written as a fiction so to be presented or give a impression of a true story till the end to mock and make fun in that way of who believes in the fake moon landing, but it is their way to slowly get the message out.
    Make fun about something that is a hoax to reinforce the idea that it isn't.

    The Reason NASA Never Returned To The Moon (Full Documentary)

    Published on Nov 23, 2013

    Have you ever wondered why we haven't returned to the moon again? The truth is that NASA is hiding a very dark secret from us.

    Is there an "Alien Base" on the Moon? More and more people are coming forward with stories that might prove this is true. Rumors say that there is an Alien Moon Base on the far side of the moon, the side we never see from Earth.

    Did you ever wonder why the Moon landings stopped and why we have not tried to build a Moon Base? It does seem like a better and easier idea than a floating space station with no access to any raw materials or supplies? According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon!

    Sound far fetched? Milton Cooper, a Naval Intelligence Officer tells us that not only does the Alien Moon Base exist but the U.S. Naval Intelligence Community refers to the Alien Moon Base as "Luna," that there is a huge mining operation going on there, and that is where the aliens keep their huge mother ships while the trips to Earth are made in smaller "flying saucers".

    LUNA: The Alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and filmed by the Apollo astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the very large alien craft described in sighting reports as mother ships exist there. -Milton Cooper

    I do not try to make any kind of profit from this video, this is just for educational purpose!
    "Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."

    Following the Disclosure that Contact has been made with Extraterrestrial civilizations, it is imperative that leaders speak to the public in a calm, reassuring and positive manner. Rogue covert interests have made it clear that they will ‘spin’ such an event to advance a militaristic approach by engendering fear and spreading false and frightening disinformation concerning one or more such ET civilizations. Such disinformation is, in fact, already fully embedded within the public consciousness of the subject. The UFO subculture will use such an event to advance all manner of bizarre theories and disinformation as well: Abductions, mutilations, invasion, hybrid breeding programs, secret ET groups working with some covert human military operations, etc. There must be a sane, rational, forward-looking and hopeful tone and emphasis presented by leaders who understand the issues thoroughly.

    Never use the terms: Alien, Abduction, Mutilation, Invasion, Conspiracy.
    Do use: Extraterrestrial; Extraterrestrial People; ET Civilization; Contact

    Key Talking Points:

    1. It has been announced that we are not alone in the Universe: that other intelligent life forms exist who have visited Earth. A new chapter in human history has now opened: one that holds much promise and hope for progress and new knowledge.
    2. The existence of other Extraterrestrial Civilizations has been known for some time. In the past some authorities, for a number of reasons, felt that this should be kept secret. But now the time has come for this to be known and accepted openly by all of the people of Earth, and we must look forward towards the future and not to the past.
    3. There is no evidence whatsoever that these ET visitors are in any way hostile. They appear to want to understand us and have made contact in Peace. We should reach out to them with the best the human spirit has within it – and go peacefully into a future filled with hope, wonder and promise.
    4. It is imperative that we now Disclose the information that all governments have on this matter and, in particular, the information regarding the wondrous new sciences that have resulted from studying these Extraterrestrial Spacecraft. Such sciences hold the key to a new physics and to new sources of energy and propulsion that can give humanity the ability to have a truly sustainable civilization on Earth without pollution and with abundance for all.
    5. We also must work as a world community to develop policies towards these Extraterrestrial Visitors that are peaceful and mutually beneficial. We must go into space peacefully and avoid in any way the militarization of the relationship or the weaponization of space in any way.
    6. We are calling on the international community to develop a Council on InterPlanetary Relations to gather together the best, the brightest and the wisest people humanity has to offer to continue this Contact and develop policies and procedures to ensure a continuing peaceful out-reach to these extraterrestrial civilizations.
    7. To the people of Faith around the world, we emphasize that God has seen fit to create many intelligent beings in the Universe who – just as we humans do – possess consciousness and intelligence and are part of His plan for this vast Universe.
    8. Let us go into the future with hope – and with wisdom. Let us avoid the past pitfalls of fear, prejudice and conflict. It is now time for not only the realization of the unity of humanity but indeed of all life in the Universe. It is time for not only world peace, but for universal peace.
    9. It is in this Peace that the universe will spread wide its arms to accept us into the family of other planetary civilizations. It is indeed a new chapter in human history. Let us make it one of peace, of endless progress and of promise for all of humanity.

    Frequently Asked Questions:

    How long have we been visited by these ET civilizations?
    This is not precisely known, but it is possible we have been observed for a very long time. Certainly, during and since World War II there has been an increase in sightings and encounters. It appears that these ET visitors are quite concerned with warfare and especially the development and use of nuclear weapons. In a mere 100 years, human technology went from horse and buggies to early space travel and nuclear weapons. This apparently is of some concern to them, for obvious reasons.

    What about all these reports of abductions and the like?
    While some people may have had contact of various sorts, there is no evidence that anyone has been harmed or any violence committed to humans. There is evidence that these ET visitors have been concerned with the damage to the Earth’s biosphere and environment and perhaps – by extension – to the fortunes of humanity as a biological species. It appears that they have been studying these issues as the world has industrialized using technologies that cause damage to not only the Earth but also human genetic damage.

    Are there ET life forms already living amongst us?
    There is no evidence that this is the case. Certainly, there have been reports of close encounters for decades however.

    Who has known about this and for how long?
    Certain classified operations within many countries – some working together – have known of this for decades. Recently, the French and British governments have released thousands of previously classified pages of reports and investigations of encounters. It has been studied and the secrecy was as much out of uncertainty as anything. But now it is known to the world and we must look to those who have expertise in this area to assist us in educating the people of the world. There are many great leaps in science possible through these studies, especially in the area of energy generation and propulsion.

    But can’t these new energy technologies be used for weapons?
    Any new technology can be used for conflict. And this is why it is imperative that all the people of the Earth must unite and vow to use this knowledge only for peace – and restrain by any means necessary anyone who would use it for conflict or warfare. We can unite to do this and thereby ensure that this new physics is used only for the good – and in the process create a peaceful, abundant, just and sustainable civilization on Earth. Only then can we go into space as a suitable civilization and take our place among the family of advanced planetary civilizations in the Universe.

    Does this mean that God does not exist and the Bible was wrong?
    Not at all. The fact other beings exist in the cosmos only adds to the glory of a Supreme Being. He has created a universe teeming with life and other intelligent life forms- with whom we have more in common than our differences will ever be. For we can see that all such intelligent life forms possess awareness, intelligence – a soul. Are we not then more like them than different? The concept of ‘Man’ then takes on a universal dimension – which only adds to the power and beauty of the Great Being.

    What if some of these ET civilizations attack us?
    After over 60 years of documented contact and encounters, there is no evidence that any place on Earth has been attacked. There is no evidence whatsoever that these civilizations have any intent other than a peaceful one. They are, however, concerned with our tendency to create wars using potentially world – destroying weapons of mass destruction. If we solve the problems on Earth, it appears that they will welcome us with open arms into the family of advanced planetary civilizations. We must set our irrational fears aside and go with hope into this future.

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    [3:01:00 PM-Saturday, April 26th, 2014 +10UCT] Shiloh: http://youtu.be/_4hycqDNnPE
    [3:01:23 PM] Shiloh: I have mentioned this before and this seems genuine
    [3:16:20 PM] Shiloh: Though the timeline does not fit
    [3:16:44 PM] Shiloh: 1965 this guy would have to be around 25-30 years old
    [3:16:56 PM] Shiloh: He looks no older than 50 to me now. And I would state, that I do not consider the turner news channel service to be reliable and to be subject to hoaxes and sensationalism in the article above. However the overall topic bears valid examination and analysis: http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news

    [9/04/2014 1:34:27 PM] Shiloh: Yes mainstream method to 'end the mystery'
    [9/04/2014 1:34:34 PM] Sirius 17: taken into higher d space or something
    [9/04/2014 1:34:49 PM] Shiloh: The insurance companies paid out already and this is suspect too
    [9/04/2014 1:34:58 PM] Sirius 17: omg yes
    [9/04/2014 1:35:08 PM] Sirius 17: how the hell could they pay out already with zero trace
    [9/04/2014 1:35:11 PM] Shiloh: It would be my preferred scenario yes
    [9/04/2014 1:35:49 PM] Sirius 17: yes mine too
    [9/04/2014 1:36:00 PM] Shiloh: But see how this 'mystery' relates to the 7th trumpet to 'end the mystery'?
    [9/04/2014 1:36:08 PM] Sirius 17: wouldn't it be hilarious if they suddenly showed up on radar about to land in China
    [9/04/2014 1:36:13 PM] Sirius 17: like nothing happened
    [9/04/2014 1:36:22 PM] Shiloh: No this wont happen
    [9/04/2014 1:36:23 PM] Sirius 17: a missing time thing
    [9/04/2014 1:36:39 PM] Shiloh: Too much Bermuda Triangle there
    [9/04/2014 1:36:54 PM] Sirius 17: well just things i have though of, my imaginings
    [9/04/2014 1:37:00 PM] Shiloh: Mind you I take the vortexes serious enough
    [9/04/2014 1:37:08 PM] Sirius 17: i don't want anything to happen to those people
    [9/04/2014 1:37:11 PM] Sirius 17: you know
    [9/04/2014 1:37:15 PM] Sirius 17: no one does
    [9/04/2014 1:37:23 PM] Shiloh: Another thing you might use your imaginings on is this
    [9/04/2014 1:37:29 PM] Sirius 17: so i guess this is my hopeful wishful thinking

    [9/04/2014 1:37:34 PM] Shiloh: You know the 2 million km quarantine zone?
    [9/04/2014 1:37:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [9/04/2014 1:38:03 PM] Shiloh: The dark side of the Moon is just 350,000 km from the earth
    [9/04/2014 1:38:32 PM] Shiloh: The ETs could use the dark side of the moon to construct their ships within the cocoon since 1945 say
    [9/04/2014 1:38:39 PM] Sirius 17: i thought the quarentine zone is gone now though, the veil has been lifted or blackholed, eaten
    [9/04/2014 1:38:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [9/04/2014 1:39:25 PM] Shiloh: The Hill sphere is in 3D space Raven and the inversion of December 2012 expands the bubble AT lightspeed
    [9/04/2014 1:39:58 PM] Shiloh: Ergo the New Bubble is just 1½ lightyears from the earth
    [9/04/2014 1:40:05 PM] Shiloh: IN lowerD
    [9/04/2014 1:40:28 PM] Sirius 17: ok i guess i am confused
    [9/04/2014 1:40:43 PM] Shiloh: 13,500 billion km
    [9/04/2014 1:41:00 PM] Shiloh: You should not be
    [9/04/2014 1:41:05 PM] Sirius 17: but yes you have said this before
    [9/04/2014 1:41:21 PM] Shiloh: The higher D allows superluminal speeds the lowerD does not
    [9/04/2014 1:41:26 PM] Sirius 17: that the ETs could of been building the ships on the dark side and perhaps also inside the Earth
    [9/04/2014 1:41:44 PM] Shiloh: It will take 8 years from 2012 to 2020 for the new Bubble to reach Sirius
    [9/04/2014 1:41:53 PM] Shiloh: I said this many times
    [9/04/2014 1:42:16 PM] Shiloh: Ah, yes, well the 'thought' came to me last night
    [9/04/2014 1:42:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes but i thought it was the darklight of Gaia, not a quarentine bubble
    [9/04/2014 1:42:39 PM] Shiloh: I had NOT considered this before, perhaps because it was a download
    [9/04/2014 1:43:04 PM] Shiloh: The dark light IS the bubble expanding
    [9/04/2014 1:43:07 PM] Sirius 17: that expanded out
    [9/04/2014 1:43:10 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [9/04/2014 1:43:32 PM] Shiloh: Only in higher D say the 'speed of thought' can this exceed the lightspeed
    [9/04/2014 1:43:40 PM] Shiloh: I said this many times in the messages
    [9/04/2014 1:43:50 PM] Shiloh: recall the chart of the solar system
    [9/04/2014 1:43:57 PM] Sirius 17: so sirius won't get the data until 2020?
    [9/04/2014 1:44:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [9/04/2014 1:44:08 PM] Shiloh: In lower D exactly
    [9/04/2014 1:44:18 PM] Sirius 17: in higher d it has been recieved
    [9/04/2014 1:44:24 PM] Sirius 17: yes i understood this
    [9/04/2014 1:44:28 PM] Shiloh: I talked about the Centauri system recall?
    [9/04/2014 1:44:33 PM] Sirius 17: yeah



    [9/04/2014 1:44:42 PM] Shiloh: It is 2016 for this the nearest star system
    [9/04/2014 1:45:23 PM] Shiloh: So IF the ETs have ships the best way is to build them on the dark side of the moon
    [9/04/2014 1:45:47 PM] Shiloh: 2017 as this is 4½ ly
    [9/04/2014 1:45:57 PM] Shiloh: And this from the End of 2012
    [9/04/2014 1:46:51 PM] Shiloh: Now why does the Moon orbit in synch with the earth so that the dark side cannot be seen in telescopes?
    [9/04/2014 1:47:12 PM] Shiloh: And why did US stop exploring and colonizing since Apollo 17?
    [9/04/2014 1:47:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes but what about all the ship sightings that have been reported, those must be close by and already 'made'
    [9/04/2014 1:47:38 PM] Shiloh: This is what I said
    [9/04/2014 1:47:56 PM] Shiloh: I would say since 1945 there would be constructions
    [9/04/2014 1:48:24 PM] Sirius 17: I don't know why do you think they stopped going to the moon?
    [9/04/2014 1:48:43 PM] Shiloh: Because they were disencouraged to do so
    [9/04/2014 1:48:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes i have thought this same thing
    [9/04/2014 1:49:05 PM] Sirius 17: they did not know wtf they were getting into
    [9/04/2014 1:49:10 PM] Sirius 17: overpowered
    [9/04/2014 1:49:14 PM] Sirius 17: same with Mars
    [9/04/2014 1:49:24 PM] Sirius 17: some of the first probes we sent were distroyed
    [9/04/2014 1:49:25 PM] Shiloh: The ufo phenomenon was well established in the 1970's
    [9/04/2014 1:49:59 PM] Shiloh: It was not so until the spacerace began say with Sputnik in 1957
    [9/04/2014 1:50:23 PM] Shiloh: Then they thought the Russians are up to someting or the Amis etc
    [9/04/2014 1:50:36 PM] Shiloh: Bob Dean is ok on this stuff
    [9/04/2014 1:50:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes i feel he is right on
    [9/04/2014 1:50:56 PM] Sirius 17: they really dont have a fuc11ing clue what they are dealing with
    [9/04/2014 1:51:06 PM] Shiloh: No
    [9/04/2014 1:51:29 PM] Sirius 17: this whole nabs idea that we have made some kind of agreement with the ETs is complete BS though
    [9/04/2014 1:51:37 PM] Sirius 17: or that we have jumprooms to mars
    [9/04/2014 1:51:45 PM] Sirius 17: that is definitely disinfo
    [9/04/2014 1:51:53 PM] Shiloh: But NOT colonizing the Moon after Apollo 17 with all this technology improving shows you for some reason they were prevented to colonise the Moon
    [9/04/2014 1:52:10 PM] Sirius 17: yeah it is weird
    [9/04/2014 1:52:16 PM] Shiloh: The Moon has a very valuable resource in Helium 3 used for Nucear fusion reactors
    [9/04/2014 1:52:21 PM] Sirius 17: we should of had moon bases there by now
    [9/04/2014 1:52:39 PM] Shiloh: Years ago
    [9/04/2014 1:52:59 PM] Shiloh: Imo the spacestation is a first attempt to take over the moon
    [9/04/2014 1:53:16 PM] Sirius 17: you think
    [9/04/2014 1:53:25 PM] Shiloh: But they have no clue of what to do with the 'presence' there
    [9/04/2014 1:53:36 PM] Shiloh: It keeps them off it
    [9/04/2014 1:53:42 PM] Sirius 17: yes that makes sense
    [9/04/2014 1:53:48 PM] Shiloh: Mind you i dont think the astronauts know
    [9/04/2014 1:53:52 PM] Sirius 17: humanity will NOT be allowed to go into space
    [9/04/2014 1:53:52 PM] Shiloh: But the UN does
    [9/04/2014 1:54:02 PM] Sirius 17: not until they get on board with the Logos
    [9/04/2014 1:54:20 PM] Sirius 17: sure they can send all the probes they want
    [9/04/2014 1:54:25 PM] Sirius 17: but manned flights lol
    [9/04/2014 1:54:27 PM] Shiloh: This wont happen until the logos physicalises
    [9/04/2014 1:54:28 PM] Sirius 17: nope
    [9/04/2014 1:54:49 PM] Shiloh: Ergo the New race and the split

    [9/04/2014 1:55:27 PM] Shiloh: Watch the Newton movie where it is sort of shown how he tried to decode Daniel and Rev
    [9/04/2014 1:55:46 PM] Shiloh: He uses the same method as we did but had the wrong starting points
    [9/04/2014 1:55:48 PM] Sirius 17: is it on moa?
    [9/04/2014 1:56:00 PM] Shiloh: It is on 3 forums
    [9/04/2014 1:56:19 PM] Shiloh: Opscam on Moa yes
    [9/04/2014 1:56:34 PM] Shiloh: See my 666 decoding there? simple but easy
    [9/04/2014 1:56:37 PM] Sirius 17: i don't see it
    [9/04/2014 1:57:17 PM] Shiloh: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7103p15-operation-scrambleweb#102613
    [9/04/2014 1:58:25 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok, yeah i have not checked the forums today yet
    [9/04/2014 1:58:27 PM] Shiloh: Much of the commentary addresses those number codes i put with it
    [9/04/2014 1:58:43 PM] Shiloh: In the video I mean
    [9/04/2014 1:58:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see the video
    [9/04/2014 1:59:11 PM] Shiloh: I feel like having completed newton's work here actually - lierally

    Apollo 11 photo reveals base on far side of moon
    Written by Dr Michael Salla on July 7, 2013. Posted in exopolitics research, science and technology


    NASA image AS11-41-6155 reveals what appears to be an alien base on the far side of the moon.

    A photo from the online archive of the Apollo 11 mission reveals what appears to be a base on the far side of the moon. The object appears to be on the moon’s surface and is well illuminated. It is symmetrical with a long shaft separated at each end by a small sphere with another in the center. The spheres appear to be living quarters with connecting corridors. The object was recently discovered by an observer and announced today on UFO Sightings Daily.
    The photo, AS11-41-6155, is significant since whistleblowers have claimed that NASA regularly scrubs or destroys photos with any evidence of alien life or artificial structures. The Apollo 11 photo does not appear to have been digitally altered in any way, and may be stunning visual evidence of alien life on the far side of the moon.
    Here is what the observer who first discovered the photo had to say in an email sent to Scott Waring from UFO Sightings Daily:

    I need to let you know about my discovery of what seems to be some kind of UTO (unknown Terrain Object) or UFO, that appears on one of the pictures from an Apollo mission which I don’t remember which one (Apollo 11) it was…I took some screenshots so that you can see the object in very good detail. To me it looks like some kind of crystal tube with something that appears like an antenna or some kind of special weapon…not sure what it is, but we can figure it out. The first image is the original one which has lots and lots of unknown objects on the surface of the moon! J.M.

    The object is well illuminated and symmetrical. It appears to be artificial structure of some kind.

    Location of object on far side of moon in image AS11-41-6155 – its relative size made it escape detection until recently. Click image for enlargement.

    Significantly, whistleblowers have come forward to claim that NASA and affiliated government agencies have a policy of destroying or altering photos that reveal artificial structures on the moon or in space. Karl Wolfe, for example, claims that he witnessed NASA, the NSA and the US Air Force cooperating to remove such structures from Apollo and satellite imagery when detected. The Washington Times had this to say of Wolf’s whistleblower testimony:

    Karl Wolf, an Air Force sergeant who was assigned to the National Security Agency, said that mysterious structures were discovered on the far side of the moon when the United States was mapping its surface before the 1969 lunar landing. Those photos too were culled out of the public record.

    Another whistleblower is Dr Ken Johnston who was a manager of NASA’s Data and Photo Control Department. Johnston claims that he also witnessed moon photos showing artificial structures and was asked to destroy the photos. He refused and was fired by NASA.​

    If tampering of Apollo and satellite imagery of the moon’s surface is a regular policy implemented by various NASA and other US government agencies as Wolf and Johnston claim, then Apollo imago AS11-41-6155 may have remained unaltered since the object it depicts escaped detection (see above image). The photo is very large (40 megabytes) and it takes close scrutiny to discover the anomalous object. In conclusion, Apollo 11 image AS11-41-6155 may be smoking gun proof of an alien base on the far side of the moon.
    © Copyright 2013. Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Exopolitics.org

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