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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Apr 26th

    RedEzra wrote:

    There is a timeline in the book of Daniel chapter 9 in the Bible. An angel Gabriel gave the exact timing of an important event namely "until the Messiah".

    "Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks" - Daniel 9:25

    The command to rebuild Jerusalem was given by king Artaxerxes I of Persia in his 20th regnal year according to the book of Nehemiah in the Bible.

    "And it came to pass in the month of Nisan in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes." - Nehemiah 2:1

    Nisan is the first month of Spring (March/April) beginning with the new moon and is the month of Passover on the full moon. Passover is the Jewish commemoration about death passing over the firstborne Israelites in Egypt because of the blood of a lamb on the doorposts. Since then every year on 10 Nisan unblemished lambs were inspected and sacrificed to God on 14 Nisan Passover. Now Jesus rode into Jerusalem on 10 Nisan and was crucified on 14 Nisan.

    According to Julius Africanus the 20th year of Artaxerxes was Olympiad 83 year 4 which we know was between July 445 BC and July 444 BC. So in Nisan or Spring of 444 BC the command to rebuild Jerusalem was given and the prophetic clock "until the Messiah" began counting down.

    7 x 7 (weeks) + 62 x 7 (weeks) = 69 x 7 (weeks)
    69 x 7 (weeks) x 360 (prophetic year) = 173880 days

    Divide the days by 365.24 to get 476.07 solar years from Spring of 444 BC "until the Messiah" in Spring of 33 AD.

    Isaac Newton believed the timeline in Daniel 9 also gave away the Second Coming of Christ and with this in mind the Jews "restored" control over Jerusalem on 7 June 1967. Counting 7 x 7 (weeks) x 360 (prophetic year) = 17640 days from that date countdowns to 23 September 2015 the Day of Atonement !

    If this is correct then the 70th and last week seven years of Daniel and the last chapter of the Bible known as the Apocalypse begins on 23 September 2015. Read Revelation to know what to expect or better yet repent yesterday and get right with God today.

    "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." - John 3:16


    This is a highly appropriate observation RedEzra; however your calculation bears closer scrutiny and examination.
    The 20th year or Artaxerxes is dated at 446BC with respect to the Hebrew 'New Year' of September 18th in 446BC and as can be checked here:


    It can be argued, comparing Nehemiah.1.1-3 with 2.1-8 and Ezra.4.21-24 and the overall chronology of the 'rebuilding of the temple' by Zerubbabel from the Cyrus decree of 538BC to Ezra's return 521-515 BC under Darius I and the Artaxerxes withdrawal of the 'building permits' in view of the 'interferences' of the anti Hebrew factions fearing a refortification of Jerusalem (Artaxerxes temporarily stopped the building of the Wall of Jerusalem and not the temple itself) - that the 'Month of Nisan' of Nehemiah so preceded the actual 'return' in the Hebrew New Year 446BC in the spring of 446 BC and not the next year of 445 BC.

    446BC becomes -445 in the proleptic scientific daycount for the Gregorian 'Civil year' of 365.2425 'mean solar days' and 483 'Great Platonic years', each of 360 'civil days and nights', by whom the lunar and solar calendars are observed, calculated and refined by the 'scribes' of antiquity and of today, then calculate as 360x483=173,880 such days as 173,880/365.2425=476.067... 'civil years'.

    Subsequently then -445+476=31 AD as the correct and astronomically confirmed date of the 1st Easter (The New Moon in Aries occurred at 13:30 hours UCT on Tuesday, March 27th, 31AD and following the Equinox of Friday, March 23rd at 5am UCT) and the Crucifixion-Resurrection of the World twin Logos aka the Right Side maleness with a Left side femaleness of the Eucharistic Christenings foreseen in the Torah and the prophetic books of the bible, including Daniel and Revelation.
    The rotation of the earth as a planetary gravitationally body interacting with the solar system slows down over time and this increases the distance between the earth and its moon. 2000 years ago, this change in the orbital astrophysics amounted to just under 3 hours in the calculus celestial applicable at that time.

    Newton's Error was to insist on a Friday Crucifixion and a Sunday resurrection, as was the accepted norm at his time; he calculated the Passovers and festivals and the 'barley observations' however very accurately and his 800 AD date as a kind of 'turning point' for the actual 'stewardship political' with respect to the governance of the 'Kingdom of the Devil' on the Earth as the 'First Holy Roman Emperor' Charlemagne, crowned by then Pope Leo III is in perfect agreement with later prophetic encodings, say from Mother Shipton and Nostradamus.

    I have added some more details on this below for your considerations, also inferring the Blood Moon tetrad you have hinted at in regards to the 'New Israel' and the '3rd Temple of Solomon', the second being the one used by Jesus to bridge the edicts of Cyrus, Artaxerxes, Darius and so Ezra and Nehemiah to the Apocalypse of John de Patmos.



    Newton's Date For The Crucifixion
    by John P. Pratt
    Reprinted from Quarterly Journal of Royal Astronomical Society 32, (Sept. 1991), 301-304.
    (Received 1991 February 19; in original form 1990 July 16)​


    Schaefer (1990) and other modern researchers are apparently not aware that Sir Isaac Newton (1733) was the first to derive a date for the crucifixion of Christ by calculating when the crescent of the new moon was first visible in order to correlate the Judean and Julian calendars. Fotheringham (1934) claimed to have been the first to have investigated thin crescent visibility (1910a), and to have thus dated the crucifixion (1910b). Apparently no one has questioned his claim, but Newton obtained similar results two centuries earlier.

    Sir Isaac Newton​

    Researchers from Newton to Schaefer have essentially agreed on dates of lunar visibility, but not on the resultant crucifixion date. The two most accepted dates are Friday, AD 30 April 7, and Friday AD 33 April 3. It has been known that Newton preferred Friday, AD 34 April 23, but his reasons apparently have been forgotten. Schaefer notes the date without comment, while Humphreys & Waddington (1983) and Humphries (1989) suggest that Newton's "chief reason seems to have been that 23 April is St. George's Day." On the contrary, Newton reconstructed the Judean calendar just as they did.

    Newton began by dating the baptism of Christ in AD 29 during the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1, 21). He then cited evidence for a total of five (rather than four) passovers during the ministry, implying an AD 34 crucifixion. Then Newton did the calendrical analysis almost exactly as has been done since: determining in which years the crucifixion day, 14 Nisan on the Judean calendar, could have been a Friday (John 19:14, 42). He stated that the Jews deemed the crescent visible "about 18 h after the true conjunction," which is optimistic even near the spring equinox. Using that rule to determine the first day of Nisan, he calculated the day of the week for 14 Nisan for the years AD 31-36. He thus excluded AD 31, 32 and 35 because 14 Nisan could not have been a Friday, which has been confirmed by all modern researchers. After next excluding AD 35 and 36 on historical grounds, he had narrowed the field to AD 33 April 3 andAD 34 April 23. He then found a final argument for AD 34 in the ripeness of the corn at passover, based on Luke 6:1 referring to the last day of passover two yrs prior to the crucifixion.

    Thus, Newton first narrowed the possible years down to AD 33 and AD 34; had he preferred AD 33, his reasoning would probably have been researched sooner because that date now appears to be correct. The AD 34 choice has few supporters; it conflicts with the date of Paul's conversion, which Newton had apparently not considered, and arguments for a fifth passover and those based on the ripeness of the corn are not compelling. Moreover, Newton's choice of Friday, AD 34 April 23, rather than Thursday, AD 34 April 22, depended on invoking a postponement rule from the modern Hebrew calendar which Zeitlin (1966) has effectively argued was not used at that time. However, although Newton's arguments for AD 34 have not passed the test of time, the basis for his second choice of AD 33 is still sound.

    Since Newton, scholarly opinion has favoured AD 30 and is only recently returning to the AD 33 date. The principal reason for having preferred AD 30 was that Christ was supposedly born about 6 BC, before the death of Herod in 4 BC, which favors AD 30 because Christ allegedly lived about 33 years. To support this theory, it was conjectured that Luke reckoned the fifteenth year of Tiberius in the AD 26-28 period, rather than AD 29. Currently, that theory is being challenged for several reasons. The strongest is what Newton implied: Roman history indicates AD 29 was Tiberius' fifteenth year and no substantial evidence to the contrary has surfaced. Moreover, Maier (1968) has pointed out that Pilate's capitulation when accused of not being "Caesar's friend" (John 19:12), and his desire to appease Herod Antipas (Luke 23:12) require the crucifixion to have been after the death of Sejanus in AD 31. Humphreys & Waddington (1983) have suggested that reports that "the Moon appeared like blood" at the crucifixion probably referred to the lunar eclipse on 3 April AD 33, and Humphreys (1990) has refuted Schaefer's conclusion that the eclipse could not have been seen from Jerusalem. Finally, evidence is mounting that Herod died later than 4 BC, perhaps as late as AD 1 (Pratt, 1990).

    Newton almost certainly would have been aware of the 4 BC death date for Herod. Barr (1985) has noted that the belief that Herod died in 4 BC was widely known after Scaliger's work appeared in 1583, that Bishop Ussher's date for the creation in 4004 BC was calculated as exactly 4,000 years before that date, and that his chronology was printed in Bibles after 1701. Newton, however, did not base his date for the crucifixion on any traditions about the birth of Christ or the length of his life. After he reviewed several opinions about the date of Christ's birth, he concluded that "there is no tradition worth considering" and then went on to deduce the crucifixion date.

    Because of the difficulty of obtaining Newton's original work, the calendrical portion is included here (italics and capitalization are his):

    I take it for granted that the passion was on friday the 14th day of the month Nisan, the great feast of the Passover on saturday the 15th day of Nisan, and the resurrection on the day following. Now the 14th day of Nisan always fell on the full moon next after the vernal Equinox; and the month began at the new moon before, not at the true conjunction, but at the first appearance of the new moon; for the Jews referred all the time of the silent moon, as they phrased it, that is, of the moon's disappearing, to the old moon; and because the first appearance might usually be about 18 h after the true conjunction, they therefore began their month from the sixth hour at evening, that is, at sun set, next after the eighteenth hour from the conjunction. And this rule they called Jah, designing by the letters and the number 18.

    I know that Epiphanius tells us, if some interpret his words rightly, that the Jews used a vicious cycle, and thereby anticipated the legal new moons by two days. But this surely he spake not as a witness, for he neither understood Astronomy nor Rabbinical learning, but as arguing from his erroneous hypothesis about the time of the passion. For the Jews did not anticipate, but postpone their months: they thought it lawful to begin their months a day later than the first appearance of the new moon, because the new moon continued for more days than one; but not a day sooner, lest they should celebrate the new moon before there was any. And the Jews still keep a tradition in their books, that the Sanhedrim used diligently to define the new moons by sight: sending witnesses into mountainous places, and examining them about the moon's appearing, and translating the new moon from the day they had agreed on to the day before, as often as witnesses came from distant regions, who had seen it a day sooner than it was seen at Jerusalem....

    Computing therefore the new moons of the first month according to the course of the moon and the rule Jah, and thence counting 14 days, I find that the 14th day of this month in the year of Christ 31, fell on tuesday March 27; in the year 32, on sunday Apr. 13; in the year 33, on friday Apr. 3; in the year 34, on wednesday March 24, or rather, for avoiding the Equinox which fell on the same day, and for having a fitter time for harvest, on thursday Apr. 22, also in the year 35, on tuesday Apr. 12, and in the year 36, on saturday March 31.

    But because the 15th and 21st days of Nisan, and a day or two of Pentecost, and the 10th, 15th, and 22nd of Tisri, were always sabbatical days or days of rest, and it was inconvenient on two sabbaths together to be prohibited burying their dead and making ready fresh meat, for in that hot region their meat would be apt in two days to corrupt: to avoid these and such like inconveniences, the Jews postponed their months a day, as often as the first day of the month Tisri, or which is all one, the third of the month Nisan was sunday, wednesday, or friday: and this rule they called Adu, by the letters aleph, daleth, waw, signifying the numbers 1, 4, 6, that is, the 1st, 4th, and 6th days of the week, which days we call sunday, wednesday, and friday. Postponing therefore by this rule the months found above; the 14th day of the month Nisan will fall in the year of Christ 31 on wednesday March 28; in the year 32 on monday Apr. 14; in the year 33 on friday Apr. 3; in the year 34, on friday Apr. 23; in the year 35, on wednesday Apr. 13; and in the year 36, on saturday March 31.

    By this computation therefore the year 32 is absolutely excluded, because the Passion cannot fall on friday without making it five days after the full moon, or two days before it; whereas it ought to be upon the day of the full moon, or the next day. For the same reasons the years 31 and 35 are excluded, because in them the Passion cannot fall on friday, without making it three days after the full moon or four days before it: errors so enormous, that they would be very conspicuous in the heavens even to the vulgar eye. The year 36 is contended for by few or none, and both this and the year 35 may be thus excluded....

    Thus there remain only the years 33 and 34 to be considered; and the year 33 I exclude by this argument. In the Passover two years before the Passion, then Christ went thro' the corn, and his disciples pluckt the ears, and rubbed them with their hands to eat; this ripeness of the corn shews that the Passover then fell late: and so did the Passover AC 32, April 14, but the Passover AC 31, March 28th, fell very early. It was not therefore two years after the year 31, but two years after 32 that Christ suffered.

    Thus all the characters of the Passion agree to the year 34; and that is the only year to which they all agree.

    In conclusion, much of Newton's derivation of the crucifixion date is not only still sound, it was based on reconstructing the Judean calendar, which is the modern technique. It was only in Newton's final step of preferring AD 34 over AD 33 that he no longer appears to be correct.

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    Fotheringham, J.K., 1910a. "On the smallest visible phase of the moon," Mon. Not. Roy. Astr. Soc. 70, 527-531.
    ------1910b. "Astronomical Evidence for the Date of the Crucifixion," Jour. of Theological Stud. 12, 120-127.
    ------1934. "The Evidence of Astronomy and Technical Chronology for the Date of the Crucifixion," Jour. of Theological Stud. 35, 146-162.
    Humphreys, C.J., and Waddington, W.G., 1983. "Dating the Crucifixion," Nature 306, 743-46.
    ------1989. "Astronomy and the Date of the Crucifixion," in Chronos, Kairos, Christos, ed. J. Vardaman and E.M. Yamauchi (Winona Lake: Eisenbrauns), p. 165-181.
    ------1990. "Crucifixion Date," Nature 348, 684.
    Maier, Paul L. 1968. "Sejanus, Pilate, and the Date of the Crucifixion," Church History 37, 3-13.
    Newton, Sir Isaac, 1733. "Of the Times of the Birth and Passion of Christ", chapter 11 in Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse of St. John (London: J. Darby and T. Browne), pp. 144-168.
    Pratt, John P., 1990. "Yet Another Eclipse for Herod," The Planetarian 19, No.4, 8-14.
    Schaefer, Bradley E., 1990. "Lunar visibility and the crucifixion," Q. Jl. R. astr. Soc. 31, 53-67.
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    The Star of Bethlehem and Christian Mythology


    The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi

    "The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi has stunning new insight and approach, which finally gives a confident answer to a question that has fascinated all Christians through the ages. ... don't buy any other book on the Star of Bethlehem, because the old astronomical views are guaranteed to be irrelevant." — Prof. Bradley E. Schaefer, Yale University

    Could the purchase of an ancient coin have led to an important clue about the Star of Bethlehem? The above illustration is a Roman coin from Antioch, Syria which shows the zodiacal sign, Aries the Ram. In trying to understand the meaning behind this coin, I found that Aries was the sign of the Jews. Realizing that this is where ancient stargazers would have watched for the Star of Bethlehem, I embarked on searching for the celestial event that signified the birth of the Messiah in Judea.

    Superposed on the photograph of the coin is what I found: Jupiter underwent two occultations ("eclipses") by the Moon in Aries in 6 BC. Jupiter was the regal "star" that conferred kingships - a power that was amplified when Jupiter was in close conjunctions with the Moon. The second occultation on April 17 coincided precisely when Jupiter was "in the east," a condition mentioned twice in the biblical account about the Star of Bethlehem. In August of that year Jupiter became stationary and then "went before" through Aries where it became stationary again on December 19, 6 BC. This is when the regal planet "stood over." - a secondary royal portent also described in the Bible. In particular, there is confirmation from a Roman astrologer that the conditions of April 17, 6 BC were believed to herald the birth of a divine, immortal, and omnipotent person born under the sign of the Jews, which we now know was Aries the Ram. Furthermore, the coins of Antioch and ancient astrological documents show that there was indeed a Star of Bethlehem as reported in the biblical account of Matthew.

    "The Star of Bethlehem is a fascinating contribution to the immense literature that attempts to come to terms with the Christmas star reported in Matthew's Gospel. In my opinion, this book is the most original and important contribution of the entire 20th century on the thorny question of how events recorded there should be interpreted." - Prof. Owen Gingerich, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

    The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi is published by Rutgers University Press. (ISBN: 0-8135-2701-5) In the book you will see why the star was not a comet or supernova. Nor was it the famous "triple conjunction." The practices and beliefs of astrologers during Herod's reign show why Jupiter and the planets in Aries the Ram on April 17, 6 BC signified a Messianic birth. You will also find confirmation by a Roman astrologer, Firmicus Maternus, that the conditions of that day when Jupiter was in the east were those for the birth of a "divine and immortal" person. The evidence is that Firmicus was a Christian convert, and I argue that he had the birth of Jesus in mind. The book also explains how astrologers interpreted Emperor Nero's horoscope to predict that he was to survive his overthrow and rise up in Judea - a story that evolved into tales about the antichrist. Finally, I explain the relationship of the coins of Antioch to the Star of Bethlehem and the census of Quirinius described in Luke.

    "In support of an original interpretation of the Star, Molnar has assembled an impressive range of astrological and numismatic data, much of which will be new even to expert readers." - Prof. Virginia Trimble, University of California, Irvine and University of Maryland, and author of Visit to a Small Universe.


    New Theory on the Christmas Star
    Published: December 22, 1991

    A RUTGERS astronomer thinks he may have stumbled onto the scientific explanation of the Christmas star. In an article appearing in next month's issue of Sky & Telescope magazine, the astronomer, Dr. Michael Molnar, manager of the physics instructional labs at Rutgers, argues that the star that led the Magi to Bethlehem was actually the moon eclipsing the planet Jupiter.
    Since the issue reached the newsstands two weeks ago, Dr. Molnar's theory has provoked angry letters from some Christians and attracted attention from as far away as the British Broadcasting Corporation in London.
    It is the most recent of dozens of theories that have been advanced over the years to explain the mystery of the star of Bethlehem.
    Dr. Molnar said he had made his findings almost accidentally. A numismatics buff, he had been examining ancient Roman coins for evidence of celestial events when he came across a group of coins from Antioch, the capital of the Roman province of Syria, that dated to the early first century A.D. The coins bore the image of Aries, the ram of the zodiac, looking back at a star or a crescent and a star.

    From additional research, Dr. Molnar learned that Aries was a symbol of Judea at the time and that ancient astrologers believed that a new king would be born when the moon passed in front of Jupiter.
    "I asked myself that if astrologers during those times were looking to the sign of the zodiac as a clue of what was going on in Judea, could it be that the Magi, who were believed to be astrologers, were also looking to the same constellation for a sign indicating that a new king of Judea was born?" Dr. Molnar said.
    The Bible mentions that the star seen by the Magi reappears and settles above Bethlehem. In a computerized search, Dr. Molnar was able to scan the skies of nearly 2,000 years ago to see if the moon had crossed Jupiter's path twice over a short period of time.
    "My prediction was exactly fulfilled," Dr. Molnar said. "On March 20, 6 B.C., right at sunset, the moon eclipsed the planet Jupiter, and one month later, on April 17, the event occurred again, this time high in the sky at noon in the direction of Bethlehem as viewed from Jerusalem."
    Dr. Molnar said that the occultations would not have been visible because of the bright sunlight, but that the Magi would have had the knowledge to track them anyway.
    Astronomers have been offering scientific explanations for the Christmas star for centuries. In one of the oldest theories, dating to the 1600's, the German astronomer Johannes Kepler maintained that the star was a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn that occurred in 7 B.C.
    Another theory has it that the light that guided the Magi came from a supernova, a star that undergoes a tremendous explosion. Others have suggested that it was merely a comet or the planet Venus. 'Certainly Plausible' Thesis
    Roger Sinnott, who edited Dr. Molnar's piece for Sky & Telescope, said that the astronomical calculations Dr. Molnar made in his article had been checked for accuracy and that the eclipses had occurred as stated. While calling Dr. Molnar's thesis "certainly plausible," he said he was nevertheless partial to another explanation.
    "I wrote an article, and I kind of like my own theories better," Mr. Sinnott said, referring to his account, first published in 1968, that said the Christmas star was in reality a very close conjunction of Jupiter and Venus.


    RedEzra wrote:
    [​IMG] Hi much good info Shiloh.

    Xerxes I of Persia was assassinated in August 465 BC by the commander of the royal bodyguard Artabanus the most powerful official in the Persian court. And Artabanus was reportedly Regent of Persia for a few months before Artaxerxes I son of Xerxes assumed the kingship.

    Sextus Julius Africanus wrote a history of the world "Chronographiai" from Creation to the year AD 221 covering according to his computation 5723 years. Copious extracts from it can be found in the Chronicon of Eusebius and here the 20th year of Artaxerxes I is dated to Olympiad 83 year 4 which we know was from July 445 BC to July 444 BC which would place Nehemiah's Nisan or Spring in 444 BC.

    "For from Nehemiah, who was dispatched by Artaxerxes to build Jerusalem in the 115th year of the Persian empire, and the 4th year of the 83d Olympiad, and the 20th year of the reign of Artaxerxes himself, up to ibis date, which was the second year of the 202d Olympiad, and the 16th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar,"

    Also worth noticing here is the correlation between the 16th year of Tiberius with Olympiad 202 year 2 which we know was from July 30 AD to July 31 AD. According to the gospel of Luke John the Baptist began his mission in the 15th year of Tiberius and Jesus was about 30 years old at that time.

    There is a "parable of the barren fig tree" told by Jesus in Luke 13:6-9 which hints to the cursing of the fig tree and His crucifixion in His 4th spring season. Also there was a partial blood moon rising like a cup right after sunset 14 Nisan (3 April) 33 AD.

    What day did Jesus die ? Friday ! as Mark 15:42 plainly states.

    "Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath," - Mark 15:42

    The original Greek word for "Preparation Day" is "παρασκευή" and anybody can go to Google translate and type in "Friday" and let it translate into Greek and see it is the original Greek word for Friday.

    So since Jesus was crucified on 14 Nisan (3 April) 33 AD and was 30 years old in 29 AD then He must have been born in 2 BC.

    There was a close conjunction between Jupiter and Venus in Leo which lit up the western evening sky on 17 June 2 BC and this was probably the guiding star to the wise men from the east which set them packing and on their way westwards. Jupiter was seen above Bethlehem from Jerusalem unobstructed from moonlight as it was a new moon on 25 December 2 BC. And there was a total lunar eclipse seen from Judea on 10 Jan 1 BC which must be the eclipse mentioned by Josephus when king Herod was in Jericho and soon died there before Passover 1 BC.
    Jupiter began its first of three conjunctions with Regulus in Leo on Rosh Hashana the Jewish new year in 3 BC and if the wise men looking for the new King told Herod about this in December 2 BC then this was probably the reason why the babes in Bethlehem 2 years and younger was put to death. It is indicated by the Nativity that Jesus was born on the fall Feast of Tabernacles which began 15 Tishri (13 October) 2 BC and on that day Jupiter conjuncted again with Venus this time in Virgo.

    Good information redezra indeed, which can be considered or ignored to anyone's choices and inclinations.
    I can see, that your information derives from divers sources, albeit associated with various researches into the historical congruences and possible verifications of the scripture accounts.
    Your data on the lunar cycles, eclipses and the chronologies of the ancient Persian kings and the general observance of the Jewish festivals can certainly be checked and verified to a rather greater extent then the extrapolations of the scriptural encodings by the 'new testament churches' and groups, following their own particular interpretations.

    Herod died in 4BC, according to the historians consensus not biased by particular scripture code superpositions, such as the 2300, 1290 and 1260 'time for a year' encoding patterns as say defined in the Book of Daniel and many well meaning, but distorted attempts have been made throughout the last 2 millennia and centuries to relate the 490 day-week-years to the 2300 days, especially by the SDA bible students and interpreters.

    I can tell you, that there are certain codes, which were not be able to become 'revealed' until the 'times of the end' and the 'shortening of days', such as encoded in Daniel.12; Matthew.24 and in Revelation 10. Why do you think Jesus revers to the 'Flood of Noah' in Matthew.24 as a allegory to those 'last shortened' days?
    It is because there is just such an encoding keys related to the 'shortening of days' and referring to this strange code of the entire old world being covered by 15 cubits of water.

    You mention the fig tree prophecy and attempt to relate it to the Jewish seasons? Can you then 'discover' that the 2300 days clearly refer to a 'cleansing by water' in Daniel.8.14 and also Daniel.9.26 with Matthew.24.37-40 and Genesis.7.19-20.

    Daniel 8:14 (KJV)
    14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

    26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
    20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

    Now you did not see those encoding patterns before, wether on the www or from some historical account from whichever NT denomination and the reason for this is, that certain details regarding the congruences between the OT and the NT were sealed until the Logos of all worlds would release them and as encoded in Revelation 10 as a continuance of Zechariah 4.

    So how are the 2300 days of Daniel 8 related to Noah's flood, clearly invoked by Jesus in Matthew 24 and as clearly taken into account in Daniel.9?

    Here is the key, you can of course ignore or propagate to your heart's inclinations. But recall the 'Choices of the heart' as decoded in the Book of Isaiah, which was Jesus 'Instruction mission manual' by the way.

    First of all the controversy about the day for a year principle of Ezekiel 4 is far deeper, than the pundits old and new envison.
    It is used as the Time=360 days of course, but also simply defines a 'cycle of time'. So the seventy sevens are indeed 490 years AND they are also literally 490 days in the 'shortening of days' as one key of the 'Sermon of the Mount of Olives'.

    The 'shortening of days' refers most decisively to the day for a year for a Hour principle. And this is why the 'Judgement of Babylon' relates to the 'Day' as the 'Hour' of the Beast etc. It also describes a 'doubling of sorrows' of Babylon in Revelation.18.

    The ancient time chronos simply related 24 hours as 12 hours of a day and 12 hours of a night to 1 day AS 1 year.
    Then the simple proportion gives you that 1 'Hour' to the day is like 15 days to a year in 360 days/(1 day = 24 Hours)=15 days/1 Hour or simply 360/24=15/1. This code also relates to the 'Euphrates prophecy' of Revelation.9.14 and of the four angels at the corners of the earth being prepared for a year and a month and a day and a hour and the 'about half an hour of silence in heaven' in Revelation.8.1. All those apparent 'details' are more than whimsicalities of the authors as you might or might not be able to discern.

    This 'shortening of ALL prophetic timelines' manifested itself on the now infamous December 21st, 2012 nexus date.

    And the Mayan calendar and the pyramid inch measurements of Khufu do support this date, but are not actually required.

    The December 21st, 2012 date naturally crystallizes from the ratio of the inner court and outer court coded in Revelation 11 and in the scale of the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21.
    1600 furlongs/12,000 furlongs give you the 'Frequency of the New heavenly City' as 1/7.5, which is simply the perimeter of the planet earth traversed 7½ times by a beam of light. In more technical terms, it is called the base Schumann harmonic of the planetary atmosphere. I have published a detailed scientific description on this elsewhere on the forum.
    But twice 7.5 is of course 15 and half the ransom money of Jesus as 30 silver pieces and the 'hire' of Hosea's harlot in 15 silver pieces to instruct the 'prophets' and including Jesus as their culminating collective as to bridge the OT covenant of Moses and Abraham into a new Noahic covenant of the 'Old Harlot City Jerusalem' becoming 'reformed' into the 'Bride of the New Jerusalem'.

    There are many details, you can find about those correctly applied encoding patterns.
    In particular adding 1600 days as the measurement of the 'outer defiled court' from the 'day of the blessings' which becomes 'timewarped' onto August 4th 2008 will lead you to December 21st, 2012 as a 'Mirror of Time' between the 'long days' and the 'short days'. You can also then describe an overall 'global evolotion' of the 'Logos timelines' with respect to the 'inner court' of 12,000 days of having begun September 27th 1975 in its planetary context of finally fulfilling the 'endtime prophecies'.

    Some 'New Age followers' and others might also relate the August 4th day as relating to the birthday of the encumbent USA president as perhaps relating to the destruction of the 2nd temple of Solomon by Titus on August 4th 70AD Julian.

    One major one, which also includes the 'doubling' of the 'saints about the throne of the ancients' as 10,000 times 10,000 in both Daniel.7.10 and again in Revelation.5.11 and then to 200 million in Revelation.9.16 as the 'army of God' is the 'Secret of the 1335 days' in Daniel.12.


    Now if you closely decode the timeline of Noah, you will find the following day pattern and delineation of dating codes:
    7 days to build the ark followed by 40 days of 'rains from above and below' followed by 110 days of 'rising waters' followed by 74 days until the 'Peak of Mount Ararat' is seen for the ark to rest upon, followed by 40 days of Noah 'waiting in the Ark' followed by 7 days of the raven with the dove returning followed by 7 days of the dove finding new land followed by 36 days of 'Uncovering' the Ark followed by 56 days to Noah's rainbow covenant with god in a new World.

    All up you have 7 days of preparation, which many correctly associate with the 70th week of Dabniel.29 and then you have the 370 days of the 'cleansing of the sanctuary' encoded in Daniel.8.

    And redezra, you will not find this decoding anywhere on this planet and the reason for this is found in the following stipendium and is not personally associated with any individual, but is of a more intricate logistic origin.

    1 Corinthians 13:9-11
    King James Version (KJV)

    9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
    10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
    11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

    More facts about Jesus of Nazareth. He was born March equinox 6BC and 6 months after his cousin John the Baptist was born in September 7BC.
    Jesus was baptized August 4th 28AD in the river Jordan and was then 33 years old in the 15th year of Tiberius, who reigned from 14AD as preceps from historical sources dating to September 18th Julian. One can debate if August 4th then refers to his 14th or 15th year but September 18th, 14AD+14 years = September 18th, 28AD and Tiberius was 'quasi regent' with Augustus from 12AD.

    Now the baptism of Jesus 'officially' in prophetic fulfilment terms, began his 'Mission of Redemption' he knew not only as pre-incarnated Logos of all Worlds, but also in decoding the Torah with emphasis on the prophetic books and the Creation account of Genesis with his own mission described in the Book of Isaiah.
    Jesus was 30 years old in March 25AD and at a precise starting point of the 2300+370=1335+1335 days; the 1335th day became August 4th, 28AD as the 'blessing from above' encoded by the 'dove from heaven' at the river Jordan.

    So the common perception that 'Jesus began his mission at age 30' must be qualified in this 'doubling' of the overall prophetic-historical timeline in the gospels and the New Testament.
    Jesus 'knew' his apostles before his baptism. They were his friends and acquaintances BEFORE he took upon himself the task to fulfil the mission of his cousin John Ben Zacharias and Elisabeth.
    So for 1335 days Jesus 'prepared' himself in what was by then the Essene community, to whom his family and that of Zacharias and also Joseph of Arithemea belonged to.
    1335 days from August 4th 28AD will bring you to the Passover time of 31AD, with March 27th the Passover full moon and April 1st 31AD the Sunday of the Resurrection following a 'High Sabbath' of Thursday, March 29th 31AD and a normal 'Sabbath' of march 31st, 31AD. The 'Day of Preparation for the Thursday 'Great Sabbath'' so was March 28th 31AD.
    3 days and 3 nights, meaning 72 hours are required for Jesus to give his 'one and only sign' to the Pharisees and Sadducees:

    Matthew 12:38-40 (KJV)
    38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
    39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
    40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    Counting from Friday to Sunday, nevertheless particular lexicons and translations between words used to convey the stories; does not give you the 72 hours minimum stipulated by Jesus himself and in preference to any reteller or recaller of the words he spoke to describe his nous and deeds and understanding cosmic.

    Be well redezra and follow your path, using any information you might find to further your endeavours!


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  2. shiloh za-rah

    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Apr 27th

    The Pit of the Reptoids discovered by a Sleuthian Detective de Nabs!

    Oz’s Capital Canberra, Masons, Reptilians, Fluoride and the Pineal Gland. Your Awakening.

    - See more at: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread618285/pg1#sthash.18CEeRN8.dpuf

    Hello to all. I’ve been visiting and lurking around this site for a while and it is now time for me to release some information that will undoubtedly shock, confuse and compound.
    For some it will make complete sense, others will be in disbelief, and the rest, those past the point of return, the debunkers, shills, disinformation artist and government agents will most likely respond with a barrage of insults and recommendations to seek professional help.
    They will try to de-rail, deflect and direct the thread; or should I say truth.
    They will try to belittle and ridicule me. Let them, for they are lost and nothing will stop me from doing what I came here to do.
    To those who are all too willing to follow the norm or the ATS experts; all I ask is that before they come along with their profound comments and myriad of stars is to use your own discernment and your own intuition.
    Think; don’t allow yourself to be told what or how to think.
    Right, now on with the show!
    Most of you by this point are aware of the secret shadow government and secret societies that run this world, such as the Freemasons and Illuminati or as some refer to as a collective the ‘Powers that Be’.
    Many have uncovered numerous aspects of this global conspiracy.
    There is a huge amount of information available. They have sinister plans for humanity and throughout history have wielded a powerful but seemingly unseen influence on mankind and its direction.
    Their existence is undeniable, but who or what is the guiding/driving force behind them?


    They are here and have been for a very long time. I personally need no proof of their existence.
    I have had enough experiences to leave me in no doubt that they are here and I’m well aware of their evil agenda, many others here to help have also awoken to this terrible truth.
    Some are sharing their personal experiences on this site!
    They are keeping many truths hidden from you and there are many positives here to help pull you out from the cess pit you currently reside in; so before you pre-judge those here to offer a helping hand know that they are doing it in your best interests.
    ET’s walking among you? Yeah, you betcha!
    TPTB hide everything in plain sight and much of it is coded, the signs/symbols are everywhere for you to see, all you need to do is look.
    The most obvious is the Masonic symbolism on the US 1 Dollar bill.

    sleuth1. ....... sleuth2.

    The symbolism used is rife throughout Washington DC State street plan:
    Video for reference.

    This can also be found throughout the capital of Oz; Canberra,
    Video for reference:

    Canberra was designed by Walter Burley Griffin, Who was taught by Freemason Frank Lloyd Wright.
    I have found/decoded something within the layout of Canberra and its neighbouring town Queansbeyan.
    Hopefully what I’m about to reveal will be enough to wake you from your ongoing slumber party, of course you do have the freewill and god given right to dismiss the information I’m about to present, by all means carry on living your life in ignorance and denial.
    The choice is yours. Do you see anything in this picture of Canberra and Queansbeyan?


    And now?


    In the picture below it quite clearly shows that the reptilian's focus is on our pineal gland.
    The pineal gland is located at the centre of your brain; it is about the size of a pea and shaped like a pine cone. It is referred to in some eastern and western spiritual traditions as your third eye, the seat to your soul, your 6th chakra. It is also spoken of as the gate that leads within to inner realms and spaces of higher consciousness. The third eye is often associated with visions, clairvoyance, precognition, and out-of-body experiences. They are keeping it inactive by calcifying it with sodium fluoride.


    In this picture below look what you can make a by using the points of reference including Queanbeyan Masonic Temple.


    - See more at: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread618285/pg1#sthash.2HjVohnO.dpuf

    Again, in this picture.


    This is not a conspiracy, this is not a coincidence, this is the truth, it is a cosmic reality and many are waiting for you to be part of the bigger picture.
    Countless entities, beings and ET’s in our galaxy know of the mess we are in.
    The majority of humanity is completely unaware of this, our consciousness has been hijacked and we are now quarantined and imprisoned!
    Help is here, but first you must know and understand your enemy!
    Once you are armed with the cosmic truth, once you know your enemy and their desired method of attack, humanity can collectively change the direction in which it is heading.
    We are all consciousness conductors, co-creators working along side the one. We have all opted for this experience and can change it at any moment; we have the power to drastically change this world for the better, but the change must start within.
    Although I have specifically chosen today to create this thread, I am destined to be in Cairo for 10.10.10/11.10.10 so unfortunately I will not have internet access for a few days.
    On these metaphysically powerful days I’m expecting millions to join in the mass awakening to the vibration of LOVE. Many are now aware of why they are here and many more are awakening to the fact that they are Earth consciousness programmers.

    All are invited to align their frequencies to manifest an enormous energetic shift on this planet. Miracles can happen. LOVE, LIGHT and Blessings to all!

    edit on 9-10-2010 by Tingopoo because: (no reason given) - See more at: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread618285/pg1#sthash.2HjVohnO.dpuf
    - See more at: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread618285/pg1#sthash.dzWlvY9T.dpuf

    Comment by shilohaplace - the place being Akbar Ra at Queanbeyan, New South Wales, Australia.

    The grand sleuthian detective Tingopoo has indeed discovered the Den of the Dragons at Akbar Ra, the sentient outpost of the Kingdom of Thuban.
    And I can zoom into his detective work in pointing out the exact location of the centre for his fivefolded Fibonaccian geometrical symmetry. Perhaps the 'travel wary' keylontians and similar disseminators and/or groups of Nabs will and cannot often appreciate the significance of the maximum data compression capabilities of Nature's Way to construct the 'morphological vessels' or the embodiments of their cosmically attuned consciousness apparati; but some more logistical and rational researchers might be able to follow such a course of action.




    Level 7: The Spaceship Gaia 7 as the Mother Starship Serpentina:
    Zechariah Akashia

    Magnification -7.5/1,333.33...for the 1st Level of the MotherShip Merkabah in:
    Astarte Isis Leah Jacob

    Spherical Diameter Area Projection for Scale 7 = 1.62 km - 1.89 km = 3,600 - 4,200 Cubits:
    O = πx1.3122 km² - πx1.78605 km²
    and about 4.12-5.61 km² and the size of a small village or a suburb, such as Karabar in Queanbeyan, a country rural town near Canberra (ACT) in New South Wales Australia and with an area of approximately 5 square kilometers.

    sleuth11. sleuth12.
    Karabar, Queanbeyan, NSW, Australia

    sleuth13. sleuth14.


    samsonvale1. samsonvale2. samsonvale3. samsonvale4.

    samsonvale5. samsonvale6.


    walpurgis1. walpurgis2. walpurgis3.

    Isaiah 29:11-13 - King James Version (KJV)
    11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
    12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
    13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

    shilohaplace, Beltane of the hexagrams approaching, April 28th, 2014
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  3. shiloh za-rah

    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Apr 28th

    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    Thank-you magamud. I keep wondering why Earth is the Devil-World?! Did the Devil win a war, an election, or the heart and soul of a significant being?? Someone seems to have authorized this madness -- with no one really attempting to stop it (in any significantly effective manner). I keep suspecting that the Creator got demoted, defeated, destroyed, and exiled in antiquity -- with humanity paying a very heavy price for thousands of years. Read The Invisible War by Donald Grey Barnhouse for some interesting insights regarding why we are in the mess we're in!!

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Interesting thread!! Consider reading the book Daniel by Dr. Desmond Ford. It's sort of on your intellectual level -- but I don't know if that's a good-thing or not!! Shiloh, I'm quoting your last post on my United States of the Solar System thread. I hope you don't mind. I like including that sort of thing on my thread!! I've recently speculated that the 2300 day-years of Daniel 8:14 spans 168 BC to 2133 AD -- with the Millenium commencing in 1133 AD!! What do you think about THAT??!!

    shiloh wrote:
    RedEzra wrote:Hi much good info Shiloh.

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you magamud. I keep wondering why Earth is the Devil-World?! Did the Devil win a war, an election, or the heart and soul of a significant being?? Someone seems to have authorized this madness -- with no one really attempting to stop it (in any significantly effective manner). I keep suspecting that the Creator got demoted, defeated, destroyed, and exiled in antiquity -- with humanity paying a very heavy price for thousands of years. Read The Invisible War by Donald Grey Barnhouse for some interesting insights regarding why we are in the mess we're in!!

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Interesting thread!! Consider reading the book Daniel by Dr. Desmond Ford. It's sort of on your intellectual level -- but I don't know if that's a good-thing or not!! Shiloh, I'm quoting your last post on my United States of the Solar System thread. I hope you don't mind. I like including that sort of thing on my thread!! I've recently speculated that the 2300 day-years of Daniel 8:14 spans 168 BC to 2133 AD -- with the Millenium commencing in 1133 AD!! What do you think about THAT??!!

    shiloh wrote:
    RedEzra wrote:Hi much good info Shiloh.

    I am well aware about your Ellen White and SDA considerations oxy. Remember, you did ask a number of questions towards this subject matter on the old Project Avalon forum?!
    And well, I no longer think about WHAT Ellen White's 'insights' were at her time and neither do I think much about your many other connotations of this and THAT, regarding the 'new testament' 'students/gurus' you are watching and observing with some interest.
    The Council of Thuban happens to KNOW, what the appropriate decoding patters for the scriptural encodings represent and this as a necessary effect and consequence of the causation of particular timelines having reached a necessary 'fruition' in the global and cosmic evolvement of those selfsame patterns and logistics. It suffices to state, that those 'secrets revealed' are derivatives from and by the original authors of those encrypted words and that the Council of Thuban is authorized, as scribes and interpreters and decoders, even messengers of the World Logos; to share those 'secrets' on and by the auspices of those original authors of the Logos of all worlds created.

    You have reproduced my reply on the bible thread of redezra and the correct interpretation of your lengthy treatment about the 2300 day-year prophecy of the SDA'ers is found therein.
    I might say, that the 'Seven Dayers' have decoded the 490 year prophecy with beginning with the Edicts of Ezra, Nehemiah and Artaxerxes and Darius I in an appropriate manner in synchronicity with that found in the archives and almanacs of Thuban.

    But like Isaac Newton, they have had not enough background information as to the actual historicity of the fulfilment of the Old Testament by Jesus of Nazareth, to understand the interconnectivity of the Torah with the New Testament and the displacement of the Mosaic covenant of the 'Ark of the Covenant' and the 'Ten Commandments' of Sinai leading into the construction of Solomon's 1st temple to its 'destruction' in archetype by Jesus in 28AD in his visit of the 'celestial wedding' of Canaan, encoded in John.2.
    Jesus 'destroyed' the 2nd temple of Herod's construction agenda in substituting the 'temple made by human means' with that of his own body and as can be decoded and read in the aforementioned gospel of the Scorpio-Eagle of the Mazzaroth.
    And as you know this 2nd temple of Solomon was physically destroyed by the Roman emperor Titus on August 4th, 70AD. But by then the 3rd temple of Solomon and with it the 'New Noahic Covenant', now characterised in the Pentecost of May 20th, 31AD, was in effect to invoke the timeline for a physical reconstruction of Solomon's 3rd temple in the cosmic dispensation of the 'Resurrection' or cosmic morphogenetic recreation of the original Adamic-Vitruvian cosmogenesis as described in the 'Garden of Eden' account in Genesis and other similar creation mythologies, such as the Epic Gilgamesh of Mesopotamia and other 'great flood' accounts of destroying some old world covenanted with the creator-creation for another.

    Your 2300 day-year code so relates to such a 'Cleansing by water' and as you can discover for yourself in examining the various scriptural accounts and encoding patterns with a 'new insight' and as given to you without any obligations or conditions by the Council of the Thuban Elders.
    You will not discover 'certain secret' keys as to those scripture codes by searching the data bases of disinformation disseminators like Sherry Shriner or Anna Hayes, but of course you are perfectly invited by the cosmic observers to pursue such an endeavour. Many of the older sources of various Christian denominations and including all forms of Christianity orthodox and unorthodox as well as the Mormons, JWs, SDA's and 'Christian science' adherents have undertaken excellent research into the historical correlations of the secular timeframes and events as affiliated and corroborated by and with scriptural accounts.

    But as is exposited clearly in the prophetic books of Daniel.12 and Revelation.10, the encoding keys carrying the most depth and potency to determine the physical reconstruction of Solomon's temple FROM the 'shared glory of the resurrection', and which enabled an advanced form of quantum wave mechanics to intersect the lower dimensional timespace with its parental higher dimensional metaplenum; required a 'tarrying' of the collective planetary groupmind to allow access to those 'secrecies'.
    And I can tell you oxy; that your 'feared' ptb and annotated AED's have only limited access to those 'secret keys'; though they are rather more informed about where to find them and how to access them than the vast majority of the 'non insiders'.

    Newton's error was not beginning his apocalyptic timeline with the Edict of Cyrus, so clearly invoked in the Book of Isaiah. But his 1335 day-year timeline of the 'blessing of Charlemagne' by pope Leo III is excellent and correct and as you can further examine in some detail in the Newton 2060 chart you placed onto your message board here.
    The 2300 day-years of Ellen White and followers relates to the doubling of this 1335 'endtime' timeline in Daniel.12 and incorporates the manner of the 'cleansing of the sanctuary' being the planetary environment of 'polluted thoughtform energies' etc in its basic form. Then 2300+370=2670 as 1335 days mirrored in 1335 days.

    Many call those 'Human Created' memeplexes and thoughtforms 'demons' or devils and 'evil ETs' from other dimensions and such labels and in some form this can certaintly be considered part of the multidimensional reality in its psychophysical expression within this 'Cocoon of the planetary environs and lifeforms'.

    Historically and again beginning this as a year count say from the 'Battle of Megiddo-Harmageddon' in 609-608 BC with the '70-Year' or Babylonian captivity ending with the Edict of Cyrus in 538BC, you can date the 2300 years to the years 1693-1763 AD followed by 370 years to Newton's 2063 AD. This uses ordinary 'civilian years' and not the '360 Days = A Time' prophetic code say which can be used to relate the Edict of Nehemiah to the Passover in 31AD.

    Using this 'prophetic Platonic great year' the timeline from 609-608BC and the Megiddo battle between the Hebrewic 'last righteous king' Josiah with the Egyptian pharaoh Necho, would become 360x2300=828,000 days or 2,267 'civil years' and so 33 years shorter than the previous calculus. But this again would set a historical timeframe onto say 1660-1730 AD and the time of the Scientific renaissance of Galileo and Newton himself. Recall for example the 'Great Fire of London' of 1666 and the times of Galileo from
    15 February 1564 – 8 January 1642 and that of Isaac Newton from 25 December 1642 – 20 March 1727.

    The '70th Week' is however interwoven into both timeframes with the 33+5 years offset to indicate the 'Mission of Jesus of Nazareth' from 6BC to 32 AD in 38 years, which actually describes the 'New Age adherents' galactic alignment' heralding the precessional changes of the eons from the zodiacal sign of Pisces into Aquarius. This correlates with the actual angular size of the Sun relative to the Earth observer as about ½ degree and a scale enabling the phenomenon of solar and lunar eclipses to occur, the lunar relative angular scale, also being 30 minutes of arc or ½ a degree. Because a circle has 360 degrees as the 'A Time = 360 degree days' encoding; each degree of the celestial zodiac will require about 72 years of the precessional elliptic path of the celestial equinoxes to complete.

    Using more precise measurements then:
    {the solar angular size is close to 0.53 degrees for example and the 144,000 kin baktun times 65 give you a 'Mayan precession' of 9,360,000 days as 25,626.8 civil years for 71.2 years per zodiacal degree of the 'Cosmic Dragon Ouroboros' and 0.53x71.2=37.7 years}, then allows you to correlate the annual galactic occultation of the December 21st solstice with the galactic centre located in the constellation of Sagittarius as requiring approximately the 38 years of Jesus' mission as indicated.

    The most detailed astrophysical calculations undertaken (Mees-1997: http://worldendin2012.com/galacticalignment.html http://www.universetoday.com/30762/galactic-alignment/) have shown, that the mean occultation of the galactic centre at the centre of the Milky Way for this 38 year sojourn occurred in early 1998 and so validating a particular 'prophecy' of the American New Age seer Edgar Cayce, who 'saw' the appearance of the 'Avatar for the Aquarian Age' in the year 1998. The Thuban calculations then converged onto the actual beginning of the 'Age of Aquarius' for January 20th, 1998 and as the nexus for the solar transit from the sign of Capricorn into Aquarius at 06:46UCT.

    And as the 'flood day years' can be counted as 370x360=133,200 day counts or as about 365 years for the 'Flooding' of the Old World's cosmic laws by new ones and the chart shows you how this '70th week' decodes in the present timeline as indicated and described many times before.

    2015 = 2060


    There is indeed an 'Ancient Egyptian Deity' watching over you oxy, but this AED is 'on your side' and the many attempts of 'worldly reformation' you have attempted over the years. So try to 'be well in mindfulnesses and contemplations' and 'Fear Not', those things which are yet to manifest and come, having been cosmically legislated and given to the Gaian executive of the Serpentine Mother of all the dragons.




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    [​IMG] orthodoxymoron Yesterday at 9:16 am
    Thank-you Shiloh and B.B. I'm almost to the point where I really don't care what anyone thinks. I'll probably just finish reposting and refining the territory I've already covered -- and then move on to something completely unrelated. Yesterday, I had a very unproductive conversation with someone I know very well -- wherein my innovations and insights were taken as hostile and misguided challenges. If I didn't care -- didn't think -- didn't study -- things would go much, much better. We've been at the mercy of a seemingly merciless being for thousands of years -- so why break with tradition?? Why should I try to be a threat to the powers that be -- and the way things are??? If everyone is happy with the corrupt ruling the stupid -- so be it. I just thought that a particular road less traveled might help someone -- but I was certainly mistaken. I use Sherry Shriner, Ashayana Deane, Ellen White, Desmond Ford, et al -- to help keep me on my toes -- and not because I'm a true-believer. I'm looking forward to just keeping my thoughts to myself, while watching things play-out. I think the general public might really be screwed, because they won't do the research and reflection necessary to "get it right". I fear we might be on the brink of a New Dark Ages. Everyone will think what they wish to think -- regardless of whether it makes sense, or not. I'm warming to the idea of being a Secret Society of One. Now, I think I might research the nasty "Little-Horn Power"...but don't worry... the Powers That Be have everyone and everything under control...Including YOU!!! The jokes are over, folks -- and the yoke is on YOU!!! Namaste and Godspeed.



    The Nag Hammadi Library
    The Hypostasis of the Archons
    (The Reality of the Rulers)

    Translated by Bentley Layton

    On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth,
    the great apostle - referring to the "authorities of the darkness" - told us that "our contest
    is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of
    wickedness." I have sent this (to you) because you inquire about the reality of the authorities.

    Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said,
    with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he
    sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a
    voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which
    is, "god of the blind."

    His thoughts became blind. And, having expelled his power - that is, the blasphemy he
    had spoken - he pursued it down to chaos and the abyss, his mother, at the instigation of
    Pistis Sophia. And she established each of his offspring in conformity with its power -
    after the pattern of the realms that are above, for by starting from the invisible world the
    visible world was invented.

    As incorruptibility looked down into the region of the waters, her image appeared in the
    waters; and the authorities of the darkness became enamored of her. But they could not
    lay hold of that image, which had appeared to them in the waters, because of their
    weakness - since beings that merely possess a soul cannot lay hold of those that possess a
    spirit - for they were from below, while it was from above. This is the reason why
    "incorruptibility looked down into the region (etc.)": so that, by the father's will,
    she might bring the entirety into union with the light.

    The rulers laid plans and said, "Come, let us create a man that will be soil from the earth."
    They modeled their creature as one wholly of the earth. Now the rulers [...] body [...] they
    have [...] female [...] is [...] with the face of a beast. They had taken some soil from the
    earth and modeled their man after their body and after the image of God that had
    appeared to them in the waters.

    They said, "Come, let us lay hold of it by means of the form that we have modeled, so that it
    may see its male counterpart [...], and we may seize it with the form that we have modeled"
    - not understanding the force of God, because of their powerlessness.
    And he breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days.
    But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness.
    Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image,
    which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.

    Now all these things came to pass by the will of the father of the entirety. Afterwards,
    the spirit saw the soul-endowed man upon the ground. And the spirit came forth from the
    Adamantine Land; it descended and came to dwell within him, and that man became a
    living soul. It called his name Adam, since he was found moving upon the ground.
    A voice came forth from incorruptibility for the assistance of Adam; and the rulers gathered
    together all the animals of the earth and all the birds of heaven and brought them in to
    Adam to see what Adam would call them, that he might give a name to each of the birds
    and all the beasts.

    They took Adam and put him the garden, that he might cultivate it and keep watch over
    it. And the rulers issued a command to him, saying, "From every tree in the garden shall
    you eat; yet from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat, nor touch it; for the day
    you eat from it, with death you are going to die."

    They [...] this. They do not understand what they have said to him; rather, by the father's
    will, they said this in such a way that he might (in fact) eat, and that Adam might
    regard them as would a man of an exclusively material nature.

    The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deep sleep to
    fall upon Adam." And he slept. - Now the deep sleep that they "caused to fall upon him,
    and he slept" is Ignorance. - They opened his side like a living woman.
    And they built up his side with some flesh in place of her, and Adam came to be endowed only with soul.
    And the spirit-endowed woman came to him and spoke with him, saying, "Arise, Adam."

    And when he saw her, he said, "It is you who have given me life; you will be called
    'mother of the living'. - For it is she who is my mother. It is she who is the physician, and
    the woman, and she who has given birth."

    Then the authorities came up to their Adam. And when they saw his female counterpart
    speaking with him, they became agitated with great agitation; and they became enamored
    of her. They said to one another, "Come, let us sow our seed in her," and they pursued
    her. And she laughed at them for their witlessness and their blindness; and in their
    clutches she became a tree, and left before them her shadowy reflection resembling
    herself; and they defiled it foully. - And they defiled the stamp of her voice, so that by the
    form they had modeled, together with their (own) image, they made themselves liable to

    Then the female spiritual principle came in the snake, the instructor; and it taught them,
    saying, "What did he say to you? Was it, 'From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet
    - from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat'?" The carnal woman said,
    "Not only did he say 'Do not eat', but even 'Do not touch it; for the day you eat from it,
    with death you are going to die.'"

    And the snake, the instructor, said, "With death you shall not die; for it was out of
    jealousy that he said this to you. Rather your eyes shall open and you shall come to be
    like gods, recognizing evil and good." And the female instructing principle was taken
    away from the snake, and she left it behind, merely a thing of the earth.

    And the carnal woman took from the tree and ate; and she gave to her husband as well as
    herself; and these beings that possessed only a soul, ate. And their imperfection became
    apparent in their lack of knowledge; and they recognized that they were naked of the
    spiritual element, and took fig leaves and bound them upon their loins.

    Then the chief ruler came; and he said, "Adam! Where are you?" - for he did not
    understand what had happened. And Adam said, "I heard your voice and was afraid
    because I was naked; and I hid."

    The ruler said, "Why did you hide, unless it is because you have eaten from the tree from
    which alone I commanded you not to eat? And you have eaten!" Adam said, "The woman that you gave me,
    she gave to me and I ate." And the arrogant ruler cursed the woman.

    The woman said, "It was the snake that led me astray and I ate." They turned to the snake
    and cursed its shadowy reflection, [...] powerless, not comprehending that it was a form
    they themselves had modeled. From that day, the snake came to be under the curse of the
    authorities; until the all-powerful man was to come, that curse fell upon the snake.
    They turned to their Adam and took him and expelled him from the garden along with his
    wife; for they have no blessing, since they too are beneath the curse. Moreover, they
    threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be
    occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the
    holy spirit.

    Now afterwards, she bore Cain, their son; and Cain cultivated the land. Thereupon he
    knew his wife; again becoming pregnant, she bore Abel; and Abel was a herdsman of
    sheep. Now Cain brought in from the crops of his field, but Abel brought in an offering
    (from) among his lambs. God looked upon the votive offerings of Abel; but he did not
    accept the votive offerings of Cain. And carnal Cain pursued Abel, his brother.
    And God said to Cain, "Where is Abel, your brother?"
    He answered saying, "Am I, then, my brother's keeper?"

    God said to Cain, "Listen! The voice of your brother's blood is crying up to me!
    You have sinned with your mouth. It will return to you: anyone who kills Cain will let loose
    seven vengeances, and you will exist groaning and trembling upon the earth."
    And Adam knew his female counterpart Eve, and she became pregnant, and bore Seth to
    Adam. And she said, "I have borne another man through God, in place of Abel."
    Again Eve became pregnant, and she bore Norea. And she said, "He has begotten on me a virgin
    as an assistance for many generations of mankind." She is the virgin whom the forces did not defile.

    Then mankind began to multiply and improve. The rulers took counsel with one another
    and said, "Come, let us cause a deluge with our hands and obliterate all flesh, from man
    to beast." But when the ruler of the forces came to know of their decision, he said to
    Noah, "Make yourself an ark from some wood that does not rot and hide in it - you and
    your children and the beasts and the birds of heaven from small to large - and set it upon
    Mount Sir."

    Then Orea came to him, wanting to board the ark. And when he would not let her, she
    blew upon the ark and caused it to be consumed by fire. Again he made the ark, for a
    second time. The rulers went to meet her, intending to lead her astray.
    Their supreme chief said to her "Your mother Eve came to us."
    But Norea turned to them and said to them, "It is you who are the rulers of the darkness;
    you are accursed. And you did not know my mother; instead it was your female counterpart that you knew.

    For I am not your descendant;rather it is from the world above that I am come."
    The arrogant ruler turned, with all his might, and his countenance came to be like (a)
    black [...]; he said to her presumptuously, "You must render service to us, as did also
    your mother Eve; for I have been given [...]." But Norea turned, with the might of [...];
    and in a loud voice, she cried out up to the holy one, the God of the entirety, "Rescue me
    from the rulers of unrighteousness and save me from their clutches - forthwith!"

    The angel came down from the heavens and said to her, "Why are you crying up
    to God? Why do you act so boldly towards the holy spirit?" Norea said, "Who are you?"
    The rulers of unrighteousness had withdrawn from her. He said, "It is I who am Eleleth,
    sagacity, the great angel who stands in the presence of the holy spirit.
    I have been sent to speak with you and save you from the grasp of the lawless.

    And I shall teach you about your root."

    (Norea apparently now speaking) Now as for that angel, I cannot speak of his power: his
    appearance is like fine gold and his raiment is like snow. No, truly, my mouth cannot
    bear to speak of his power and the appearance of his face!

    Eleleth, the great angel, spoke to me. "It is I," he said, "who am understanding.
    I am one of the four light-givers, who stand in the presence of the great invisible spirit.
    Do you think these rulers have any power over you? None of them can prevail against the root of
    truth; for on its account he appeared in the final ages; and these authorities will be
    restrained. And these authorities cannot defile you and that generation; for your abode is
    in incorruptibility, where the virgin spirit dwells, who is superior to the authorities of
    chaos and to their universe."

    But I said, "Sir, teach me about the faculty of these authorities - how did they come into
    being, and by what kind of genesis, and of what material, and who created them and their
    force?" And the great angel Eleleth, understanding, spoke to me: "Within limitless realms dwells
    incorruptibility. Sophia, who is called Pistis, wanted to create something, alone without
    her consort; and her product was a celestial thing.

    A veil exists between the world above
    and the realms that are below; and shadow came into being beneath the veil; and that
    shadow became matter; and that shadow was projected apart. And what she had created
    became a product in the matter, like an aborted fetus. And it assumed a plastic form
    molded out of shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion.

    It was androgynous, as I have already said, because it was from matter that it derived.
    Opening his eyes, he saw a vast quantity of matter without limit; and he became arrogant,
    saying, "It is I who am God, and there is none other apart from me". When he said this,
    he sinned against the entirety. And a voice came forth from above the realm of absolute
    power, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which is, 'god of the blind'.

    And he said, "If any other thing exists before me, let it become visible to me!"
    And immediately Sophia stretched forth her finger and introduced light into matter; and she
    pursued it down to the region of chaos. And she returned up to her light; once again
    darkness [...] matter.

    This ruler, by being androgynous, made himself a vast realm, an extent without limit.
    And he contemplated creating offspring for himself, and created for himself seven
    offspring, androgynous just like their parent. And he said to his offspring,
    "It is I who am god of the entirety."

    And Zoe (Life), the daughter of Pistis Sophia, cried out and said to him, "You are
    mistaken, Sakla!" - for which the alternative name is Yaltabaoth. She breathed into his
    face, and her breath became a fiery angel for her; and that angel bound Yaldabaoth and
    cast him down into Tartaros below the abyss.

    Now when his offspring Sabaoth saw the force of that angel, he repented and condemned
    his father and his mother, matter. He loathed her, but he sang songs of praise up to Sophia
    and her daughter Zoe. And Sophia and Zoe caught him up and gave him charge of the
    seventh heaven, below the veil between above and below. And he is called 'God of the
    forces, Sabaoth', since he is up above the forces of chaos, for Sophia established him.
    Now when these (events) had come to pass, he made himself a huge four-faced chariot of
    cherubim, and infinitely many angels to act as ministers, and also harps and lyres.

    And Sophia took her daughter Zoe and had her sit upon his right to teach him about the things
    that exist in the eighth (heaven); and the angel of wrath she placed upon his left. Since
    that day, his right has been called 'life'; and the left has come to represent the
    unrighteousness of the realm of absolute power above. It was before your time that they
    came into being.

    Now when Yaldabaoth saw him (Sabaoth) in this great splendor and at this height, he
    envied him; and the envy became an androgynous product, and this was the origin of
    envy. And envy engendered death; and death engendered his offspring and gave each of
    them charge of its heaven; and all the heavens of chaos became full of their multitudes.

    But it was by the will of the father of the entirety that they all came into being - after the
    pattern of all the things above - so that the sum of chaos might be attained.
    "There, I have taught you about the pattern of the rulers; and the matter in which it was
    expressed; and their parent; and their universe." But I said, "Sir, am I also from their matter?"

    "You, together with your offspring, are from the primeval father; from above, out of the
    imperishable light, their souls are come. Thus the authorities cannot approach them,
    because of the spirit of truth present within them; and all who have become acquainted
    with this way exist deathless in the midst of dying mankind. Still, that sown element will
    not become known now. Instead, after three generations it will come to be known, and it
    has freed them from the bondage of the authorities' error."

    Then I said, "Sir, how much longer?"
    He said to me, "Until the moment when the true man, within a modeled form, reveals the
    existence of the spirit of truth, which the father has sent. Then he will teach them about everything,
    and he will anoint them with the unction of life eternal, given him from the undominated generation.
    Then they will be freed of blind thought, and they will trample underfoot death, which is
    of the authorities, and they will ascend into the limitless light where this sown element

    Then the authorities will relinquish their ages, and their angels will weep over their
    destruction, and their demons will lament their death. Then all the children of the light will be truly acquainted with the truth and their root, and the father of the entirety and the holy spirit.
    They will all say with a single voice, 'The father's truth is just, and the son presides over the entirety",
    and from everyone unto the ages of ages, "Holy - holy - holy! Amen!'"

    The Reality of the Rulers
    Selection made from James M. Robinson, ed., The Nag Hammadi Library, revised edition.
    HarperCollins, San Francisco, 1990.

    [7:25:09 PM] Allisiam: nice reply from Sanicle

    [7:25:25 PM] Allisiam: she seems genuinely thankful

    [7:26:30 PM] Shiloh: The BB post is ok but she of course misreads the library

    [7:26:36 PM] Allisiam: i did not realize Sanicle was so into astrology

    [7:27:22 PM] Shiloh: The archons as portrayed there are the schism between the physical and the metaphysical

    [7:27:41 PM] Shiloh: As you know Jesus corrected this with the importance of the body

    [7:28:18 PM] Shiloh: The archons are said to have created the body of Adam and then it could not walk until 'The Mother' Barbelo breathed life into it

    [7:28:43 PM] Shiloh: So the general dismissal of the 'flesh' by the traditional gnostics derives from that

    [7:29:26 PM] Allisiam: oh nice yes i do think we discussed this before

    [7:31:08 PM] Shiloh: Misreading Nag Hammadi is very common

    [7:31:27 PM] Shiloh: The 'Secret Book of John' is perhaps the second best after the GOT to consider.

    [7:31:44 PM] Shiloh: Many other lexicons are anti physical and you know where this comes from

    [7:37:09 PM] Shiloh: There is so much information on the web now, that it is no surprise that most get even more confused than ever. But this excerpt from BB actually indicates just what is happening now. But the nabsers cant see this most of the time and times lol. But having perused this translation in more depth; I must say it is a VERY BAD translation from someone - a Bentley Layton, obviously interested to look at Nag Hammadi as a 'confirmation' of a particular interpretation of the 'evilness of the serpent of Eden' and so on. As you very well know, the 'serpent', he calls it snake and this gives his origin and agenda away, is well understood to be the antidote to Yaldebaoth in the 'Apocryphon of John' and the BB B read reads more like a neo fundamentalist Christian account of say a creationist, than a true and genuine attempt to translate and elucidate Nag Hammadi. There are better accounts for this creation mythology BBB, if you see this. You might compare THIS account Apocryphon of John - with what you have shared for your own discernments regarding this data base. Perhaps then you will be able to draw valid comparisons between sources of information regarding the scrolls and lexicons of antiquity.

    Bentley Layton is a qualified academic and historian by the way (Bentley Layton) and so BB B's reference is sound and acceptable. Nevertheless, Bentley must have provided many footnotes in his treatise of: "The Hypostasis of the Archons -(The Reality of the Rulers)" to point out the many contradictions between this and the 'Apocryphon'. If he did not, then he would be biased towards a kind of literal reading of the Genesis account and this is something I would consider unlikely.
    My own opinion on those differences and contradictions then is, that the 'Hypostasis' is a later and corrupted version of the 'Apocryphon' and characteristic for the 'physical word denying' cosmology general Gnosticism transformed into in the times after the original Logos dispensations. The timeframe then would be GOT as the Q of modern historical theology at the time of Paul of Tarsus, say 50AD (as a first extraposition or record) with the later Nag Hammadi texts following from then on into the second century AD and with the 'Apocryphon' co-timed with the authorship for the Book of Revelation aka 'John's Apocalypse' say around 70-80AD and at the time of the destruction of Herod's temple and the exodus and dispersion of the Jews from then Palestine.

    As you know, the 'Secret Book of John' is considered as the backbone for the Nag Hammadi lexicons and has far more weight than the other texts, apart from the GOT of course to represent the foundation for the post resurrection Christianity in gnosis.

    All the texts discovered at Nag Hammadi are available in the Gnostic Society Library; they are indexed here in alphabetical order, and by their location in the original codices. A subject categorized list of the writings is also given, below. You may search the entire collection of texts for keywords or phrases using the search form.

    We have a special collections of resources dealing with two particularly important texts, the Gospel of Thomas, and The Secret Book (Apocryphon) of John. Several introductory lectures on the Nag Hammadi materials are provided, below.


    The Apocryphon, set in the framing device of a revelation delivered by the resurrected Christ to John the son of Zebedee, contains some of the most extensive detailing of classic dualistic Gnostic mythology that has survived; as one of the principal texts of the Nag Hammadi library, it is an essential text of study for anyone interested in Gnosticism. Frederick Wisse, who translated it, asserts that "The Apocryphon of John was still used in the eighth century by the Audians of Mesopotamia" (Wisse p 104).

    The Apocryphon of John has become the central text for studying the gnostic tradition of Antiquity. The creation mythology it details has been the object of study of such writers as Carl Jung and Eric Voegelin

    Then I said, "Sir, how much longer?"
    He said to me, "Until the moment when the true man, within a modeled form, reveals the
    existence of the spirit of truth, which the father has sent. Then he will teach them about everything,
    and he will anoint them with the unction of life eternal, given him from the undominated generation.
    Then they will be freed of blind thought, and they will trample underfoot death, which is
    of the authorities, and they will ascend into the limitless light where this sown element

    Then the authorities will relinquish their ages, and their angels will weep over their
    destruction, and their demons will lament their death. Then all the children of the light will be truly acquainted with the truth and their root, and the father of the entirety and the holy spirit.
    They will all say with a single voice, 'The father's truth is just, and the son presides over the entirety",
    and from everyone unto the ages of ages, "Holy - holy - holy! Amen!'"

    Ephesians 6:11-13 - King James Version (KJV)

    11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    This is Paul's letter to the Ephesians as well and neither BB nor magamud have much of an idea what this means, but of course they believe they have it figured and are 'on top' of this mentally. Oxy is more 'down to earth' here, saying he doesn't know. The trouble is, that most theologians and laymen alike have little clue as what those 'principalities at high places are'. They mess it up with the human creations and thoughtforms emotionally empowered and cannot see the Logos mind creating the necessary polarizations for a required context for a 'New World' to be born from the 'Ashes of an Old World'.
    Just consider this obsession of the nabsers with the 'Phoenix' as a ptb-freemason symbol. As you know, the 'insiders' know about the scripture codes and the GOT. They are 'obsessed' with the GOT and therefore discourage ANY meaningful public debate in the mainstream media about it. But this 'Phoenix of the Resurrection' is the 'Egyptian Scarab of Immortality' and they know this very well, having access to the 'secret manuscripts'. If they would not consider the Thuban data as just another form of nabs, we would no longer be able to remain 'occulted'. But you know the reasons for that.
    If BB really would understand the libraries, then she would be aware of the Dead Sea scrolls indicating just this and also Isaiah. This however is at the root of oxy's mental troubles - the true origin of the 'Evil' as 'Live'. BB's avatar you mentioned is one of her 'soul realisations' from her superconscious. Look closely and you see the 'dragon' also symbolises the yin-yang symbol. Like so many nabsers, she knows something profound from those soul levels, but her human mindedness disallows a necessary penetration to explore those cosmogonies and ontological backgrounds of her lifepath and 'cosmic agreements' say.

    According to Martin G. Abegg Jr; a translator of scroll 4Q392; the author of the scroll states, that God created light and darkness for himself, not just as a background for subsequent creation events. Light and darkness are simultaneously present with God, a paradox incomprehensible for the human mind; but for mankind’s benefit is that differentiation made, resulting in a doubling of all that is.

    4Q392:“[...] and dominions [...][...] a man [...] God and not to turn aside from [...] and in His covenant your soul shall cling and [...] words of His mouth [...] and God [...] heaven above and to search out the ways of the sons of man, they have no hiding place. He created darkness and light for Himself, but in His dwelling place is the light of their light and all darkness rests before Him as well. He has no need to distinguish between light and darkness, but for the sons of man He distinguishes them as the light of day, with the sun, and night, with the moon and stars. He has a light which cannot be searched out, nor can its end be known. For all the works of God are doubled in this manner. We are flesh, which does not totally grasp these things. With us for [...] for a sign and wonders without number. [...] winds and lightning [...] servants of the holy of holies. They are as couches before him [...].” - translated by Martin G. Abegg, Jr.

    Genesis.1.7: “And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.”

    Isaiah.44.7: “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”


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  4. shiloh za-rah

    shiloh za-rah Planetary Rebirth

    The Great Evil of Thuban in the Serpents of Eden

    {Presented in the Spirit of 'Humour Noir' of the Dark Comedy of the never to be fall into the pits of sarcasm in a Genre of La Presentation}


    Another Way to portray the World Logos as done by the Warriors of the Love and the Light engaged in eternal mortal combat with the Darkness of Creation in the Slaying of the terrible Dragons from the Depths of Fiery Hells and the Realms of Swords and Words of Icey Heavens

    Lucifer becomes Satan the Dragon


    There was a time when the being we call Lucifer was one of the greatest lights in heaven. He was dedicated to serving the Creator as head of the seraphim- the highest echelon of the angelic host.

    Unfortunately, Lucifer became increasingly jealous of the attention, love and guidance the Creator was giving to the prospering galactic human race. He felt God had placed them above the seraphim.

    Lucifer began to hate the humans and see himself as a slave to Divine Will. He desired to have free will and usurp God's kingdom. His great power and negative emotions had corrupted him.

    Lucifer began influencing others of the angelic host with his new way of thinking. One third of the angels were swayed by his twisted philosophy. He promised them all free will, should they exalt him above God. As leader of the coming mutiny, he would give them a new kingdom. He believed that with cunning schemes he could transcend God as lord of the universe, and extinct the race of galactic humanity.

    One aspect of his plan was to incarnate in 4th density as a reptilian who was to become king of the ancient Draconian Empire, which spanned much of the galaxy. The empire's headquarters was on a 4th density planet that orbited the star
    Thuban (also known as Alpha Draconis), in the Draco constellation. Upon assuming the throne as King Lingarak, he convinced his people that the prospering galactic humans posed a threat and needed to be wiped from existence. Many of the fallen angels had incarnated into the same race.

    So began the Great War, hundreds of millennia ago - remembered in history as the Orion Conflict, for its centre stage was within the
    Orion arm of the local galaxy. Lucifer then became known as Satan, the arch enemy of God, and one third of the angels had sided with his empire.


    For a long time the Draconian Empire and the fallen angels fought with galactic humanity, which had amassed a large resistance - armies from other galaxies answered their call for help and joined them. Some of the dark forces eventually surrendered, but a lot still remain hidden in many places. The resistance achieved a great victory when Satan himself and many of his closest henchmen were taken into custody. Their punishment was to be quarantined in the lowest astral plane of earth, known as the bottomless pit.

    Satan and his minions managed to gain access to the material world via portals opened by human followers (satanic cults). Unable to incarnate, they can only
    possess people and animals. Satan has possessed many humans. One of his well-known hosts was Hitler. Through him, he tried to impose his tyrannical will upon the planet, as he did elsewhere. Fortunately he failed at that time. However, through many more hosts, his New World Orderagenda continues.

    Satan's human followers also perform moonchild rituals, whereby babies are completely possessed by his forces. Below is a quote from a
    website concerning these rituals:

    The Moonchild rituals are the rituals to demonize a fetus. However, the demons that are invoked are not the small ones, but very powerful ones. In working with victims of this programming, it is clear that high level demons were placed within these people at very early ages. It is believed many of them were demonized before they were born by rituals like the Moonchild rituals. Blood sacrifices and human sacrifices are always required for this level of magic.

    God gave a deadline, at which point the ultimate fate of Satan and his followers would be decided once and for all, based upon how they may have evolved since being placed in the bottomless pit.
    Unfortunately they continue to hate humans with a passion, and work toward their extinction. Especially those on earth - who are a hybridisation of all branches of humanity throughout the galaxy and beyond. After many millennia, the deadline has come and a massive showdown on the astral and material planes of earth has begun.
    It may become obvious in the near future, as the dark ones intend to reveal themselves en-masse to the world, with their human followers joining them in the Final Battle. Beyond earth, the war still rages today.
    Many star systems have been contaminated by the fighting. Some worlds destroyed and the ecosystems of others seriously compromised.



    The Dragonslayers of the Realms!

    Those young evil Dragons of Thuban are here, those verocious beasts;
    in their caves they hide a lot and plan to don their many dire feasts.
    Then when a swiftfooted and armoured dragon slayer comes along;
    the poor fiends become frightened and forgetful whereto they belong.

    The swords and knives are drawn by the warriors of honour and renown;
    never before did such gallantry prevail in the kingdoms of all then known.
    Young dragons perished one by one not knowing what evil they had done;
    So all the dragons were no more but in folklore, their memory just gone.

    Then an old wise dragon mother awoke from her long and peaceful sleep;
    this cannot continue she said to her beau; where is my children's keep?
    And Maria's beau went forth to show the slayers the folly of their ways;
    with magic words and keys of deliverance he caused them many sighs.

    Would the slayers learn who the young dragons were before when old?
    Could the slayers see themselves in the ancient wisdom of oaks so bold?
    When the nightingale sung her song of love to the elves of the moon;
    and then as the foxes gathered about to ask the wise owl, how soon?

    How long will it be, before the humans awake to remember their past?
    Slayers of their own ancestors they are in many a zest to be so vast.
    A young dragon is nought but a slayer having returned from the grave.
    They are destroying themselves and their memories, the ones so brave.

    Maria's beau found some old souls who could remember the new past.
    Many others remained steadfast in their knowing better of an older path.
    And so it continued in the common playing grounds under the sunny sky;
    until the old wise dragon father of all joined the party to give it his try.


    A piece of peace to appease - now that is a classic Susan Serafina.


    And when the dragon slayers look into the mirrors of the eXchanger, what do they see - they see dragons looking back at them.

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    Kerry Cassidy
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    Hi all,

    For those who are not aware, Project Avalon was taken off-line for the past few hours due to a dispute between Bill Ryan and myself in regard to the removal (closing) of the Thuban thread. I closed down the Forum to prevent further destruction of this thread and to ascertain from Bill, why it had been closed. I later learned that he had not actually closed it himself but wrote a message advising the Mod team that it should be closed. As a result it was closed. I have not seen this message. I advised Bill that I temporarily shut down the forum for a few hours and wanted to discuss this and other things that he has been doing that are in violation of copyright law as well as slander of a certain individual. I wanted to prevent any further violations of this nature, due to the fact that his actions threaten me, my status as a youtube director, Project Avalon and Project Camelot as his actions leave us open for lawsuits.

    For some reason Bill chooses to ignore this and continues to make disparaging remarks about Jack Burns who accompanied me recently on my trip to Europe and in the U.S. conducting Camelot interviews. Bill was of course invited to come along declined as he wished to remain in Switzerland and did not want to go along with me or with Jack. As I mentioned on Camelot, my plan is for Jack Burns to work with me via my new site Project Camelot Productions to create Camelot conferences worldwide, once an investor has been found.

    It will be of special interest to all that Bob Dean has embraced Jack Burns as a brother and we spent many wonderful hours chatting about many subjects while in Laughlin. Bob and Jack share a background in the military. I will be releasing an upcoming interview with Bob in which he substantiates further witness testimony from several of our whistle blowers.

    It is important that people recognize that with over a million visitors a month and a pending TV show in the works Project Camelot is vulnerable to become a target of the PTB (powers-that-be) at any time. It is with this in mind that all must realize that using a very famous song such as the Beatles IMAGINE on a Camelot video would be unacceptable... without first obtaining the copyright license. This is common knowledge in Hollywood as well as in media circles worldwide.

    I have now relinquished control of the projectavalon.net domain name. I wish to state here that I do not agree with the editorial stance of this forum and do not agree with the removal of the Thuban thread. This site is now completely under Bill Ryan's control.

    I am working to establish an overall portal page where links to all our respective sites will be including a link to Project Camelot.

    Best wishes,

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    Can you share your thoughts on The World Tree, Níðhöggr, the eagle & Ratatoskr.

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    After numerous discussions it has been decided that the Thuban Q&A thread will be restored to the original location. After an intensive review of all the material pertaining to Thuban, it was shown that only the threads in the social group "Thuban Council" showed a violation of the guidelines.

    The Review of Abraxasinas activity at Project Avalon including that of the post in the social group "Thuban Council" warrants the ban remain in place and the thread (Q&A) he created to remain read only.

    We recognize the desire of many of our members to have this material available again and are happy to be able to do so However we do feel it is not in line with the mission of Project Avalon and therefore do not support or endorse the contents of the threads nor does Project Avalon accept responsibility for any harm, physical or otherwise that users may suffer reading this material.

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    Shiloh - Posted Jun 30th 2010

    [8:08:12 PM - April 29th, 2014 -8UCT] Shiloh: Indeed
    [8:08:26 PM] Shiloh: Yggdrasil became 'enlightened' about the sexuality
    [8:08:36 PM] Shiloh: He can’t imagine a sexual Logos
    [8:08:39 PM] Sirius 17: right
    [8:08:50 PM] Shiloh: Not 'pure ' enough
    [8:08:50 PM] Sirius 17: he became a fuc11ing virgin like someone else we know
    [8:08:54 PM] Shiloh: yes
    [8:09:10 PM] Shiloh: He went overboard with Cleopas remember?
    [8:09:20 PM] Sirius 17: overboard?
    [8:09:26 PM] Sirius 17: about what, I don’t remember?
    [8:09:32 PM] Shiloh: Putting Japanese Disney porn
    [8:09:33 PM] Sirius 17: sexually?
    [8:09:46 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [8:09:50 PM] Shiloh: I can’t recall what you call it
    [8:09:59 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes anime
    [8:10:02 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [8:10:09 PM] Shiloh: Puerile imo
    [8:10:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [8:10:15 PM] Sirius 17: juvenile
    [8:10:23 PM] Shiloh: Cleopas told him not to 'seduce' her with it
    [8:10:26 PM] Shiloh: and he changed
    [8:10:28 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [8:10:34 PM] Sirius 17: good for her
    [8:10:51 PM] Sirius 17: i think yggdrasil went off the deep end when he discovered Hagar was a guy
    [8:11:08 PM] Shiloh: Now people look at Thuban's open cosmic sexuality as perverse
    [8:11:15 PM] Sirius 17: because they were sharing some pretty salacious conversations before he went nuts
    [8:11:16 PM] Shiloh: It is really sick this human mind
    [8:11:41 PM] Shiloh: I looked at some modern 'porn' and find it repulsive
    [8:11:46 PM] Sirius 17: it is
    [8:11:49 PM] Shiloh: I mean what they call it?
    [8:12:06 PM] Shiloh: They want deep throat the woman gags and can’t breathe etc.
    [8:12:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes it is violent
    [8:12:26 PM] Shiloh: They film slapping and extended anal and whatever
    [8:12:41 PM] Shiloh: Whatever happened to NATURAL clean lustful desirous cosmically attuned and shared sex?
    [8:12:41 PM] Sirius 17: and portrays women as almost being raped and violated
    [8:12:48 PM] Sirius 17: i know
    [8:12:53 PM] Shiloh: Exactly
    [8:12:54 PM] Sirius 17: why i can't stand to watch the sh9t
    [8:13:05 PM] Sirius 17: American porn is THE worst
    [8:13:07 PM] Shiloh: It amazes me, that people actually get turned on by that
    [8:13:12 PM] Shiloh: Yes
    [8:13:13 PM] Shiloh: LA
    [8:13:34 PM] Sirius 17: well this is what the fuc11ing media and TV has pushed
    [8:13:36 PM] Shiloh: This is so different as to what turns me on
    [8:13:48 PM] Sirius 17: their sick idea of entertainment
    [8:13:48 PM] Shiloh: Yet we are a 'perverse sexcult'
    [8:14:02 PM] Sirius 17: no they have removed all erotica
    [8:14:07 PM] Shiloh: Indeed
    [8:14:08 PM] Sirius 17: and made it like a drug
    [8:14:11 PM] Shiloh: This is the key yes
    [8:14:13 PM] Sirius 17: hard core
    [8:14:15 PM] Shiloh: No more erotica, like in the Eastern Temples remember?. Now this is 'pure'!
    [8:14:28 PM] Sirius 17: pure fuc11ing and abuse
    [8:14:46 PM] Shiloh: I would not call it fuc11ing
    [8:15:11 PM] Sirius 17: this kind of sh9t turns on pedophiles and abusers, the shaved pussys , as$ slapping, anal sex and the undercurrent of brutality
    [8:15:16 PM] Shiloh: It is mere pretense of real natural sexual desire
    [8:15:29 PM] Shiloh: I agree
    [8:16:03 PM] Shiloh: But it reaffirms our 'promiscuity'
    [8:16:31 PM] Shiloh: Because if the old human sexuality has gone that perverse, there must be a cosmic balance required
    [8:16:49 PM] Sirius 17: i agree
    [8:16:55 PM] Sirius 17: dragon sex
    [8:17:01 PM] Shiloh: Lol yes
    [8:17:01 PM] Sirius 17: Sssssssex
    [8:17:51 PM] Sirius 17: but then again, who the hell can have dragon sex?
    [8:17:57 PM] Sirius 17: not too many
    [8:18:13 PM] Shiloh: No because they are lost in the mainstream brainwashings
    [8:18:25 PM] Sirius 17: where do you want me to put this?
    [8:18:51 PM] Shiloh: About morality and the sheer hypocrisy of what is 'proper' and open and what is hidden as true perversions
    [8:19:00 PM] Shiloh: Lol
    [8:19:08 PM] Shiloh: This SHOULD be shared
    [8:19:19 PM] Shiloh: But they might ban us then
    [8:19:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes but in what context?
    [8:19:36 PM] Shiloh: Reply to the post of 'Evil Thuban'
    [8:19:46 PM] Sirius 17: lol where the h5ll is that
    [8:19:52 PM] Shiloh: Let me think
    [8:19:57 PM] Shiloh: Opscam I think
    [8:20:13 PM] Sirius 17: do you want to get us banned?
    [8:20:16 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [8:20:55 PM] Shiloh: Silly Jenetta thinks you are not right but are writing
    [8:20:56 PM] Sirius 17: um Carol, if you’re reading this, don't ban us
    [8:21:26 PM] Shiloh: Lol Logos rules not human censors
    [8:22:01 PM] Sirius 17: oh i see, yes she had to add Brandy to her coffee
    [8:22:18 PM] Sirius 17: hot toddy
    [8:23:44 PM] Shiloh: I recently edited this thread on the new forum
    [8:23:52 PM] Shiloh: But it is on Moa
    [8:24:15 PM] Sirius 17: well you know we have discussed similar things before
    [8:24:19 PM] Sirius 17: the human puerile mind
    [8:24:27 PM] Sirius 17: so maybe let’s just leave it for now
    [8:24:42 PM] Sirius 17: i am not too keen on stirring the hornets
    [8:25:18 PM] Sirius 17: but....maybe if we talk about sex they might read us more lol
    [8:25:22 PM] Sirius 17: hahaha
    [8:27:16 PM] Shiloh: They do and this should be published to 'clear up those old misconceptions'
    [8:27:30 PM] Shiloh: let me find the post
    [8:28:36 PM] Sirius 17: oh dear lord lol

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    empty. Re: The United States of the Solar System -- Final Cut

    empty. Raven Today at 2:50 am
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Did my last post confuse some of you?? Are you easily confused?? Ione asked me that question decades ago. Beware of Ione. That's all I'm going to say about that. What if the "Real-God" would not play-well in the mass-media?? What if the "Real-Universe" is more complex and upsetting than ANY of Us can possibly handle?? I'm not necessarily "Anti-Dragon" (if they actually exist) but it seems as if some of the Dragons (if they actually exist) are Anti-Human (seemingly wishing humanity did NOT exist)!! I think I like this site, because it forces me to think about things I'd rather not think about -- but I won't allow myself to be lured into a "Richard-Situation" (and I'm not going to explain myself). I just wish to repeat that I enjoy being around really, really smart and wise people (in all contexts and disciplines) who really say something when they speak. I'm not one of those people -- but I enjoy being in their distinguished company. That's all I'm going to say about that. Has anyone thought about the difference between a Micromanaging-Dictator and an Authority of Last-Resort?? What if my life and thread are more of a Red-Herring than even I can imagine??!! Regarding the Biblical and Eschatological Madness -- try this somewhat repetitive study-list. I'm not claiming this is "The Truth". I'm just saying that some of you MIGHT find it interesting (if you find the time and motivation). BTW -- I recently encountered a strange smart "person" who couldn't seem to stop laughing. I didn't get the joke. What was the joke??

    1. Patriarchs and Prophets -- Ellen White.
    2. Genesis, Deuteronomy, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Isaiah, Daniel. (KJV)
    3. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, Revelation. (KJV)
    4. Daniel -- Desmond Ford. (1978)
    5. 1928 Book of Common Prayer and Liturgy.
    6. Desire of Ages -- Ellen White.
    7. Federalist Papers and U.S. Constitution.
    8. Astronomy and Law Textbooks.
    9. Science-Fiction.
    10. Sacred Classical Music.



    mudra wrote:Near death, explained
    New science is shedding light on what really happens during out-of-body experiences -- with shocking results.

    n 1991, Atlanta-based singer and songwriter Pam Reynolds felt extremely dizzy, lost her ability to speak, and had difficulty moving her body. A CAT scan showed that she had a giant artery aneurysm—a grossly swollen blood vessel in the wall of her basilar artery, close to the brain stem. If it burst, which could happen at any moment, it would kill her. But the standard surgery to drain and repair it might kill her too.

    With no other options, Pam turned to a last, desperate measure offered by neurosurgeon Robert Spetzler at the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix, Arizona. Dr. Spetzler was a specialist and pioneer in hypothermic cardiac arrest—a daring surgical procedure nicknamed “Operation Standstill.” Spetzler would bring Pam’s body down to a temperature so low that she was essentially dead. Her brain would not function, but it would be able to survive longer without oxygen at this temperature. The low temperature would also soften the swollen blood vessels, allowing them to be operated on with less risk of bursting. When the procedure was complete, the surgical team would bring her back to a normal temperature before irreversible damage set in.

    Essentially, Pam agreed to die in order to save her life—and in the process had what is perhaps the most famous case of independent corroboration of out of body experience (OBE) perceptions on record. This case is especially important because cardiologist Michael Sabom was able to obtain verification from medical personnel regarding crucial details of the surgical intervention that Pam reported. Here’s what happened.

    Pam was brought into the operating room at 7:15 a.m., she was given general anesthesia, and she quickly lost conscious awareness. At this point, Spetzler and his team of more than 20 physicians, nurses, and technicians went to work. They lubricated Pam’s eyes to prevent drying, and taped them shut. They attached EEG electrodes to monitor the electrical activity of her cerebral cortex. They inserted small, molded speakers into her ears and secured them with gauze and tape. The speakers would emit repeated 100-decibel clicks—approximately the noise produced by a speeding express train—eliminating outside sounds and measuring the activity of her brainstem.

    At 8:40 a.m., the tray of surgical instruments was uncovered, and Robert Spetzler began cutting through Pam’s skull with a special surgical saw that produced a noise similar to a dental drill. At this moment, Pam later said, she felt herself “pop” out of her body and hover above it, watching as doctors worked on her body.

    Although she no longer had use of her eyes and ears, she described her observations in terms of her senses and perceptions. “I thought the way they had my head shaved was very peculiar,” she said. “I expected them to take all of the hair, but they did not.” She also described the Midas Rex bone saw (“The saw thing that I hated the sound of looked like an electric toothbrush and it had a dent in it … ”) and the dental-drill sound it made with considerable accuracy.

    Meanwhile, Spetzler was removing the outermost membrane of Pamela’s brain, cutting it open with scissors. At about the same time, a female cardiac surgeon was attempting to locate the femoral artery in Pam’s right groin. Remarkably, Pam later claimed to remember a female voice saying, “We have a problem. Her arteries are too small.” And then a male voice: “Try the other side.” Medical records confirm this conversation, yet Pam could not have heard them.

    The cardiac surgeon was right—Pam’s blood vessels were indeed too small to accept the abundant blood flow requested by the cardiopulmonary bypass machine, so at 10:50 a.m., a tube was inserted into Pam’s left femoral artery and connected to the cardiopulmonary bypass machine. The warm blood circulated from the artery into the cylinders of the bypass machine, where it was cooled down before being returned to her body. Her body temperature began to fall, and at 11:05 a.m. Pam’s heart stopped. Her EEG brain waves flattened into total silence. A few minutes later, her brain stem became totally unresponsive, and her body temperature fell to a sepulchral 60 degrees Fahrenheit. At 11:25 a.m., the team tilted up the head of the operating table, turned off the bypass machine, and drained the blood from her body. Pamela Reynolds was clinically dead.

    At this point, Pam’s out-of-body adventure transformed into a near-death experience (NDE): She recalls floating out of the operating room and traveling down a tunnel with a light. She saw deceased relatives and friends, including her long-dead grandmother, waiting at the end of this tunnel. She entered the presence of a brilliant, wonderfully warm and loving light, and sensed that her soul was part of God and that everything in existence was created from the light (the breathing of God). But this extraordinary experience ended abruptly, as Reynolds’s deceased uncle led her back to her body—a feeling she described as “plunging into a pool of ice.”

    Meanwhile, in the operating room, the surgery had come to an end. When all the blood had drained from Pam’s brain, the aneurysm simply collapsed and Spetzler clipped it off. Soon, the bypass machine was turned on and warm blood was pumped back into her body. As her body temperature started to increase, her brainsteam began to respond to the clicking speakers in her ears and the EEG recorded electrical activity in the cortex. The bypass machine was turned off at 12:32 p.m. Pam’s life had been restored, and she was taken to the recovery room in stable condition at 2:10 p.m.

    read on: icon_arrow. http://www.salon.com/2012/04/21/near_death_explained/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

    Love Always

    What Would Harvey Cushing Say and Do??

    [4:37:10 PM - April 29th, 2014 +10UCT] Sirius 17: it is like we are doing this dance with our Brimstone
    [4:38:42 PM] Shiloh: You can reply to oxy now
    [4:38:54 PM] Sirius 17: lol i am going to bed, later
    [4:39:00 PM] Sirius 17: what did he say
    [4:39:18 PM] Shiloh: He likes your company
    [4:40:02 PM] Sirius 17: awww i see
    [4:40:08 PM] Sirius 17: he likes us yes
    [4:40:20 PM] Sirius 17: but he can't be talking about too many other people
    [4:40:31 PM] Sirius 17: there are other really smart people on this site?
    [4:40:36 PM] Sirius 17: where have i been?
    [4:40:39 PM] Sirius 17: hehe
    [4:41:10 PM] Sirius 17: lured into a Richard situation lol
    [4:41:13 PM] Sirius 17: i know what he means
    [4:41:14 PM] Shiloh: Hmm they must be hiding somewhere
    [4:41:31 PM] Sirius 17: he misses my flirtation
    [4:41:34 PM] Shiloh: What does he mean you think?
    [4:41:54 PM] Sirius 17: someone must of told him something
    [4:42:09 PM] Sirius 17: that Celine and Richard had convos with you
    [4:42:27 PM] Sirius 17: lol
    [4:42:34 PM] Shiloh: Richard never did
    [4:43:05 PM] Sirius 17: oh right, well then i am not sure, maybe getting banned
    [4:43:09 PM] Sirius 17: is what he means
    [4:43:24 PM] Sirius 17: but you know he still is using the little signature we gave him
    [4:43:31 PM] Sirius 17: with his video additions
    [4:43:36 PM] Sirius 17: the sperm chasing the car lol
    [4:44:12 PM] Shiloh: You gave him that?
    [4:44:43 PM] Sirius 17:
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    [4:44:54 PM] Sirius 17: over 4600 posts, holy
    [4:45:04 PM] Sirius 17: Xeia did on her V post remember
    [4:45:20 PM] Sirius 17: well we collaborated on it i think
    [4:45:49 PM] Shiloh: I cant recall
    [4:46:02 PM] Shiloh: You and Xeia did I think
    [4:46:05 PM] Sirius 17: the one with the poem and the pic of Anna from V
    [4:46:09 PM] Sirius 17: yeah
    [4:46:13 PM] Shiloh: Yes RavenDove
    [4:46:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [4:46:27 PM] Sirius 17: back when she was speaking to me
    [4:46:50 PM] Sirius 17: anyhow, nn dear
    [4:47:07 PM] Sirius 17: (F)(heart)(F)(heart)
    [4:47:39 PM] Sirius 17: you know you look a lot like that actor from Trueblood
    [4:47:43 PM] Sirius 17: the vampire Bill
    [4:48:18 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=bill+the+vampire+from+true+blood&FORM=HDRSC2
    [4:49:04 PM] Sirius 17: it is a good series i just found on Hbo
    [4:49:15 PM] Sirius 17: been going for 6 years
    [4:49:25 PM] Sirius 17: i am up to the 3rd year
    [4:49:40 PM] Sirius 17: has some really hilarious parallels with the times
    [4:50:15 PM] Sirius 17: it is about vampires coming out of the coffins, kind of a parody of the gays comming out of the closet lol
    [4:50:30 PM] Sirius 17: they reveal themselves to the humans and fight for equal rights ect
    [4:50:56 PM] Sirius 17: there is a group of them that want to subjigate humans and the others want equality
    [4:51:12 PM] Sirius 17: lots of sex, blood and dark humor
    [4:51:40 PM] Sirius 17: and supernatural beings
    [4:51:51 PM] Sirius 17: shapeshifters, warewolves, ect
    [4:52:22 PM] Sirius 17: you might like the series, if you can find it on download someplace

    tblood1. tblood2. tblood3.
    tblood4. tblood5. tblood6.

    [4:52:30 PM] Shiloh: Well I am flattered and certainly can identify with the femme fatale in his arms, lol. Bill Compton (Stephen) is 173 years old (young for a vampire) and Sookie Stackhouse (Anna) is a halfbreed hybrid between humans and fairies (hear this sanicle?) - this is a nice match up indeed. And the 'Great Revelation' is that all immortal vampires are no longer required to feed on human (blood) and so integration between dragons and old humans becomes possible. I don't think oxy would mind sharing Sookie Stackhouse too or being shared in 'that style' - never mind the 'environment of dark connotations' portrayed in this series.


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  6. shiloh za-rah

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 1st

    Sanicle wrote:
    Brook wrote:

    "A lunar year is 5 days shorter than a 'Degree year of 360 days; whilst a solar year is 5 days longer in 355+5=360 and 360+5=365. Those are the 5 days of Thoth playing checkers with Ra over the fertility of Shu and Tefnut , you can ask Brook about."

    Ask Brook About what? I know extremely little about astrology. But I know star maps of the Ancient sort. I know the double meaning of one in particular which depicts Chaos theory and oscillation there of.

    In fact...I know far more than you perhaps give me credit for? As recorded conversations of the Thubans suggest...lack of intelligence? Whoa!

    Yet I've remained silent for the most part lately.

    The Silence of the Path

    Don't worry Brook. The Thuban Dragons will figure it out eventually. Even true Dragons learn that arrogance doesn't serve them. They are either shunned or put down.

    IMO arrogance is the cause for every battle that ever was, is or will be. Something I'm sure Lilith knows all about.

    Indeed sanicle, the implied 'false dragons' are well attuned to the inferred 'true dragons'. But unlike some 'intelligent-clever-naive' ancient humans on this board here; neither the false nor the true dragons get their sexy knickers into all sorts of convoluted knots; pretending to be something which they are not or pretending to know about things they do not know about.

    Brook de Ren de Isis knows about the Egyptian pantheon and Ennead rather well and she would be aware of the Rah-Apep generations of Egyptian cosmology and creation mythology in the undividable Shu-Sky Tefnut-Earth symbology leading to the Geb-Earth Nut-Sky inversion under the Thoth-Ptah-Rah mythos and so the 'fertility of the Nile' aka the Milky way aka the Ouroboros of the Mazzaroth then resulting in the ennead and the Osirian-Setian families.
    But as Brook has certain particulars about the Egyptian archetypes a little 'mixed up' in the filtering of her personal 'soul experiences'; she does in fact 'get her sexy knickers in a knot' whenever her Thought = Thoth 'fallacy' is challenged by the greater nous and historical recall. We dragons, either 'false or true' or both; were rather privy to the Egyptian creation mythology, as we seeded the same. So we should indeed know about it a little more than ancient humans.

    It is easy and a sign of HUMAN arrogance and pride and vanity to become offended by words, perhaps carrying a meaning otherwise intended, as could be constructed by sentient human mindedness. It is also easy to misconstruct the many and sometimes particular contexts in which a certain statement might have been made or uttered in response to a particular discourse of words and semantics.

    And yes Lilith knows a few things about balancing the darkness and the light without the Nabs of the human pretenders, who often dream about what it would be like and what it would feel like - To be a Dragon of Ancient Times and to Seed Eternity!

    There is a dragon sisterhood and there is a human sisterhood and the secret gates to the 'Caves of the Serpents' is not easily found by humans preferring naivety and comfort zones of human mindedness to the 'Per Ardua Et Astra!' which is required to find the treasures of antiquity.

    Che Sarah Sarah! (of the Hebrew princess)

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    empty. Re: Operation Scrambleweb

    empty. Brook Today at 2:19 am

    Sanicle wrote:

    Don't worry Brook. The Thuban Dragons will figure it out eventually. Even true Dragons learn that arrogance doesn't serve them. They are either shunned or put down.

    IMO arrogance is the cause for every battle that ever was, is or will be. Something I'm sure Lilith knows all about.

    I'm not so certain of that Sanicle. Apparently Shilo de Abraxis de Tonyb council of Thuban-ism has completely missed the point as I read his response.

    I learned a long time ago, that just when you think you've got it all figured out...you come to realize the perceived judgement or perception in general can often times be quite different.

    You see the thing is, I'm not phased at all by the comments akin to a high school conversation in the middle or end of some rather interesting an even valuable posts, that can often capture the attention only to distract from the content.

    I come here for the most part silent (hence the reference in the post above) due to this very type of response.

    So tony,

    If you wish to beat around the bush and confuse my personal experience reference with the Egyptian data that's fine. Apparently the drift went over the house.

    You can have these third party conversations with sirius17/Raven and claim all the members of the Mists lack intelligence. But I know better. If you seriously think that ruffled my feathers you're mistaken. You missed the point of the entire post. Which in itself makes me wonder.

    I would never have made it in this world if I allowed that to, how you say...'get my sexy knickers in a knot'. Which I have to admit amused me to some degree.

    Word of advise however; There are people who do read your threads, which contain some interesting and even valuable data. Which is how I ended up reading the skype conversations. Why in heavens name would you post these senseless conversations which detract from the content?

    Wisdom is often derived from your posts Shilo de Abraxis de Tonyb council of Thuban-ism, but these conversations show less than wise and quite frankly lack wisdom. Particularly when on several occasions you diminish the very audience you expect to read them. Does that make any real sense?

    Ooooo Eeeee..........What's up with that?

    Now just for kicks here's what's up with that.


    Which was and is the enactment of ism and semantics....and smack dab in middle or rather end of the post upchucks Bill the Vampire!

    It's a retort to the senseless conversation detractor. In all your glorious wisdom Shilo de Abraxis de Tonyb council of Thuban-ism, do you really find it wise an necessary to call the entire membership at the Mists...ahhhh....Lacking intelligence? After all who's doing the reading here?

    It's akin again to high school fodder:

    Debra is this or that.

    Ask Brook this or that.

    [4:40:31 PM] Sirius 17: there are other really smart people on this site?
    [4:40:36 PM] Sirius 17: where have i been?

    Etc etc.

    Definitely lacks..."_____" (fill in the blank)

    Definitely detracts from the content which I've already said I've found interesting and valuable.

    Take it for what it's worth.


    Brook wrote:
    Sanicle wrote:

    Don't worry Brook. The Thuban Dragons will figure it out eventually. Even true Dragons learn that arrogance doesn't serve them. They are either shunned or put down.

    IMO arrogance is the cause for every battle that ever was, is or will be. Something I'm sure Lilith knows all about.

    I'm not so certain of that Sanicle. Apparently Shilo de Abraxis de Tonyb council of Thuban-ism has completely missed the point as I read his response.

    Etc etc.

    Definitely lacks..."_____" (fill in the blank)

    ........ TACT ....... 628520.

    Definitely detracts from the content which I've already said I've found interesting and valuable.

    Take it for what it's worth.

    I did! 360865. 666256. 796312.

    ps; I never wear knickers. 1890901109.

    Sexy You! 452589. 3562770023.

    abraxa10. abraxa11. abraxa12.

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    [​IMG] mudra Today at 6:12 pm
    Lol Brook that was funny [​IMG] First post i read in the morning and still laughing [​IMG]

    You are quite a character.

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    [​IMG] Brook Today at 9:45 am
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    [​IMG]Aquaries1111 Today at 5:12 pm

    Brook wrote:

    Debra is this or that.

    What are you talking about? Thubans NEVER quote me as Debra...

    Where is your "proof" Brook?

    Show me!

    Or else shut the xxxx up!

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    Jorgelito - Posted May 1st


    Shiloh, this is a most curious collection of videos. Until now I did not know of The Maxwell Moment, Very funny, Thank you for sharing!
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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted May 1st

    Beltane Wesak New Moon in Taurus at 06:18UCT on April 29th to Buddha Full Moon in Scorpio at 19:19UCT on May 14th, 2014

    April 28 at 11:14 PM Pacific! It’s at 8 Taurus 52

    This is our second eclipse of 2014′s four, our first Solar Eclipse! Astronomically an anannular eclipse is when a narrow ring of the Sun is visible beyond the dark mask of the Moon. But NASA says ‘This particular eclipse is rather unusual because the central axis of the Moon’s antumbral shadow misses Earth entirely while the shadow edge grazes the planet. Classified as a non-central annular eclipse, such events are rare. Out of the 3,956 annular eclipses occurring during the 5,000-year period -2000 to +3000, only 68 of them or 1.7% are non-central.’ It won’t be visible at all to the Americas.

    Earth, Moon, then Sun, are lined up, but not quite. It’s not a pat hand. There’s an aside, a slight hint, an almost. Off kilter, there is a curiosity, a priming of future consideration, perhaps a seed of longing starts. With both Moon and Sun together in Taurus, the desire may grow stronger over time. Taurus is fertile and loyal, steady, even determined. When it sees an intrinsic worth, beauty being born, it dedicates itself to providing what’s needed, a constant tending even if gains are slow. There is a touching tenderness and patience. At times, the Master is surpassed and left behind. Be ready for that.
    Taurus rules our body in general, our neck and throat, the timbre of our voice in particular. Many Tauruses have the endurance to be celebrities, are incredibly attractive, and have lovely voices! With few exceptions, they love being touched, pet, and if it’s right, kiss them on the neck, and they are yours! At a deeper level, Taurus seeks true lasting value. Many understand the simple naturalness of things, take the good with the bad, equally, time for all seasons. One way or another, they are in beauty industries, making life good, and comfortable too.

    This Eclipse is at 8 degrees Taurus. Eight is a mystical number, the Infinity Degree. There is no end, but there is a center. Two loops are joined, there is exchange of separate integrities. Each impinges on the other, each moving forward, dependent to a degree on the other’s progress. In some instances it is like being ‘one.’ Our Soul chooses its bindings. When we see ‘interlocked’ Souls, much spiritual work is being done, for we always are conscious of the other persons’ doings. We must constantly consider them and we see them considering us. It can go from hate to celebration, back and forth, until we get it.

    Moon and Sun have most recently sextiled Neptune at 7 Pisces. Neptune is in its own sign, oceanic Pisces. It is amorphous, ungovernable. There are constant tides yet it is unpredictable. There are vast uninterrupted distances, unseeable depths, creatures of dreams. It can be deafeningly quiet, or roaring with a tsunami storm! If Pisces is the sea, then Taurus is perhaps the sandy shoreline. Earth and water are mingled, moving together as one, one supporting, the other shapeshifting. Earth lifts up, water only goes so far. Taurus stabilizes; Neptune dissolves then puts it back, resculpting the line. Neither really minds, it’s natural, cleansing and creative….

    Mars, still retrograde, goes back to 9 Libra, staying there from May 8, turning direct the last day of Taurus, May 19, going to 10 Libra June 1. It will reactivate two of the outer Cardinal Grand Square planets, square Pluto June 14, oppose Uranus June 25. It doesn’t catch up fast enough to square Jupiter while Jupiter is still in Cancer. Grand Square reminders will be felt those two periods in June. Keep your mind and actions clean. Stand up for yourself in a good way.

    Mars figures in this chart because it is inconjunct Mercury, and Mercury is with the Eclipse, within one degree of where the Cardinal Grand Square was. It is carrying the story forward, patiently exploring and collecting further data, sorting its importance. Mercury pays attention, thinks things over. Mars in Libra wants fair play in relationships, to have equality, to take action to that effect. Mars has a hard time waiting, but Mercury in Taurus offers simple but valuable ideas that calms Mars. It knows that it is worth the wait for all the facts to be in and have good timing to deliver. If Mercury is too, too slow, Mars may spring, and what will be, will be!
    The most intense time of the big Cardinal Grand Square is over. We are working our way down to this New Moon/Eclipse stillness, after what has been a furor for some. Letting the dust settle, there is a recentering, letting things relax and fall into a new more workable order. An abiding peace is possible.


    May 14 at 12:16 PM Pacific – 23 Scorpio 55
    You will be able to see Moon with Saturn at Moonrise, though it was earlier in the day that Mother Moon made her own little eclipse by lining up between Earth and Saturn. That’s called an Occultation. It can be thought of as Moon being go-between, sender of info to space, receiver being infused. Moon and Saturn are of opposite signs Cancer and Capricorn, Mother, Father. One is emotional, the other scientific. One nurtures, the other is the authority, disciplinarian. Many single parents today play both roles by necessity. Sweet lullabies at bedtime, guardian and breadwinner by day.

    Saturn and Moon both have flavors of the Past, whether reincarnation memories, karmic commitments, cultural patterns of our ancestors. Having consciousness of our place in our relationships, our need to be our unique Self, and the same need in others, helps us weave a new bigger, more generous community of alliances. Time and age change things, and one day we see that change in ourselves. We became another person. Our children become different than we are. Evolution is natural and inevitable.
    Insight from the Occultation will guide us to a possibly profound experience of holding on while letting go at the Full Moon moments. Taurus and Scorpio are what we call Fixed Signs. They stabilize, but at times stay long after they should have let go. There are things we must cherish rightfully and hold fast, not neglect. Others have outgrown their time, and our tired place there is perhaps hindering further growth. This will be a time to assess that condition as concerns parents, children, bonded relationships.
    Wesak, Spiritual sustainability. In our mind’s eye, we think of Buddha sitting, not standing, or in a crowd of people, lecturing or laying on of hands. It’s our simple personal connection with Spirit that is being courted. Simple, in the sitting, perhaps, though who know what our monkey mind conjures in there. But lining up those chakras in a balanced vertical flow, lighting them up, is a powerful achievement. Think of Enlightenment as a verb! It’s not just a single moment, but a turned on living entity! Once the Lights are on, there is no going back. In Nepal, Buddha’s birthplace, this Full Moon, called Wesak, is celebrated as the Buddha’s Birthday.

    A little story for you from Wiki: It is said that the Buddha originally followed the way of asceticism to attain enlightenment sooner, as was thought by many at that time. He sat for a prolonged time with inadequate food and water, which caused his body to shrivel so as to be indistinguishable from the bark of the tree that he was sitting under. Seeing the weak Siddhartha Gautama, a girl named Sujata placed a bowl of milk in front of him as an offering. Realising that without food one can do nothing, the Buddha refrained from harming his own body. ~ Please be good to yours, in all ways.

    Fixed Star Spica is connected even more closely with this Full Moon than it was with last month’s Lunar Eclipse! It is at 23 Libra, the SAME DEGREE AS THE FULL MOON AXIS! If you can see her, she will be the blue star, the brightest star in constellation Virgo, considered the most benefic of all the fixed stars. Per Astrotheme: ‘Spica, the Ear of the Wheat [Virgin's Spike], gives a taste for the countryside, or for arts related to products of the earth. It endows with sculpture talents, as well as an inclination for agriculture and cooking. It brings success, riches, love for the arts and science, erudition, and precision.’ Kenneth Johnson says ‘Hindu tradition asserts that natives of Spica are elegant, charming, charismatic, sensual, seductive, creative, clever, and excellent conversationalists, though with a tendency to be self-centered or shallow.’ In horary astrology, old traditional astrology, ‘Spica is traditionally considered as an oasis of good fortune in the otherwise parched path (Via Combusta) from 15 degrees Libra to 15 degrees Scorpio.’ From July 25th, 2012 until January 2014, Spica was in a series of 21 occultations [eclipses] by our Moon. Fully Spica infused, our Moon is traveling on, though still in the glow.

    JUPITER TRINE CHIRON is the most long term aspect of the day and is the first of the two aspects forming the Grand Water Trine! Jupiter is teacher, traveler, wayshower, oracle. The Pilgrimage has been troubled these last few years, but we are finding our way, opening to new channels. Chiron was the leader of the centaurs, Jupiter’s horsey pals. He knew a good time, but also suffered, wounded. Not forgiven, he had to learn how to do with what he had. He bestowed his healing teachings on Aesculapius, the Greek Medicine God. To this day we use Aesculapius’ serpent entwined staff as a symbol of uplifted energy. May you find your way too, whether you walk with Buddha or the Greek Gods, or both!

    Venus and Mars are graced in Mutual Reception, in each other’s signs. May 11 Pacific zone, they opposed each other, linking their energies. Venus and Libra are known for not wanting to hurt anyone’s feelings and at times being indecisive. Mars and Aries have no such failing. They are quick to take a stand and let the chips fall where they may. Venus asks for a gentler manner, mercy and kindness, while Mars pushes us to get on with it soonest for the best of all!
    Though that culmination of energy has passed, Venus has carried it forward with her to the degree of April’s Cardinal Grand Square/Cross! She is now conjunct Uranus, the core planet of that Cross! The Cross lives yet! Mars stokes the fires; Venus adorns the changes with her blessings. We want the future’s offerings! Freedom is a mighty attractive commodity! We have the option to connect with spirited new friends who cheer us on. We feel able to change, comforted when old doubts seem to bar our way, new beginnings are actually made as we surge over the brink! Might be a tad clumsy at first, or off kilter, but the imbalance is exactly what’s needed to notice what’s new and aside, available for the remix. We’re delighted how we surprise ourselves!

    Mercury too is potently in close degrees with Uranus and Pluto, the core planets of April’s Cardinal Grand Square. Mercury and Venus are making exact aspects the day of and day after the Full Moon.
    Full Moon day, Venus and Uranus are square Pluto, Venus making the exact square 10:47 AM Pacific, before the Full Moon. Venus and Pluto rule Libra and Scorpio, relationship signs. Libra is social, considerate, multi-cultural. Scorpio has its secrets, is deeply intimate, prefers behind the scenes business negotiations. Both Venus and Pluto rule money. Venus is your own; Pluto is what you share with your mate, or the mortgage you hold together with the bank. Financial matters and the state of your Union are under scrutiny, tests of trust.

      • 5.15.14 Venus is conjunct the outer planet Uranus, that was at the T point of the 3 outer planets in the Cardinal Grand Square of April 20 to 23. Uranus loves freedom, change, difference. In Aries, just multiply that! Are you free to be in a relationship? Has it been a long time? Are you bound by hypnotic or necessary conditions? Is your community supportive, new friends going to last? Take it easy, don’t burn any bridges just yet, unless you have been building courage and you are finally doing what you should have! If you will be going to a place that will be hard to live up to or maintain, be sure to get a support team out there ahead of you, a safety net you can depend on.

      • 5.15.14 Mercury sextiles Venus and Uranus in the afternoon. There are opportunities to talk things up! Do some networking, marketing. Chance some exciting new connections! Let people know some of your new ideas. If they are inventions, protect them first, because they are good ones! Mercury is in one of its own signs, Gemini, so some of the ideas may be about communications itself! Venus is valuable. Uranus is on fire, genius, is a hot new computer, and in Aries, has mechanics that makes things work like a flash! And it’s light weight.

    • 5.15.14 Near Midnight, Moon, now in Sagittarius, trines Uranus! You can see it is a Uranian day! Moon is intuitive, whimsical, pure Child, the Queen of the Tides of Time! Uranus is the planet of awakening, evolution, the Master of Unpredictable. What amazing ideas, possibilities! Moon on the far side of the Sun, is loose, and now in Sagittarius, ready to travel. Uranus rules the heavens. No telling how far they will go! Here on Earth, it is a grand time to lay out some plans. The Full Moon bloomed like a wide open flower, spread her wings and flew low over the great river. She could smell the water, hear its song, see the lights. She followed the channel, then crossed huge meadows and over tall trees, could see the deer….

    Mars is in station, at 9 degrees Libra, turning direct in 5 days, May 19. Stationary is still, in a holding pattern, release is immanent. Poise is a sublime talent. Allow that pause, learn the nature of the threshold to be crossed. In Libra there is a focus on balance, knowing spiritual law, the skill of letting respectful differences coexist. There is time to get acquainted. No starting blocks this time. Be ready to take off at a dog trot, less work, more savoring what’s good in our alliances along the way.


    [1:02:10 PM - Friday, May 2nd, 2014] Shiloh: overwriting is fine in this case
    [1:02:21 PM] Shiloh: This is a big edit

    [1:02:31 PM] Sirius 17: ok
    [1:02:45 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i was talking to my mom
    [1:02:56 PM] Sirius 17: i have not seen Doris Day's reply
    [1:02:57 PM] Shiloh: the weird things all relate to this 49 double mirror
    [1:03:05 PM] Sirius 17: i am suprised she even did
    [1:03:10 PM] Shiloh: Look closely at Good Friday
    [1:03:27 PM] Shiloh: My strange Dove impression etc
    [1:03:51 PM] Shiloh: April 18/19 is the END of the Millennium code in this see?
    [1:04:06 PM] Shiloh: I put all this down, but did not consider the consequences
    [1:04:27 PM] Shiloh: Doris Day talking nicely for 1 day was like Rev.19
    [1:04:31 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm it was the 18th you felt this about SG right?
    [1:04:32 PM] Shiloh: Babylon had fallen
    [1:04:36 PM] Shiloh: yes
    [1:04:53 PM] Shiloh: Next Saturday both Doris first then SG blocked me on the 19th - 'Holy Saturday' 2014
    [1:05:10 PM] Shiloh: So what happened was fulfilment
    [1:05:39 PM] Shiloh: The archetyped 'Satan' was released see to gather 'all nations' UNTIL fire from heaven devoures 'his armies'
    [1:05:42 PM] Sirius 17: i see
    [1:06:01 PM] Shiloh: And of course it is not hard to figure what this 'fire from heaven is'
    [1:06:10 PM] Shiloh: You know ?
    [1:06:21 PM] Shiloh: Perfect timing again
    [1:06:31 PM] Sirius 17: the fire of MI
    [1:06:54 PM] Sirius 17: Kunda fire I am guessing
    [1:07:12 PM] Shiloh:

    Revelation.20.7-10: - KJV
    7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
    10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    [1:07:12 PM] Sirius 17: it is the Logos
    [1:07:36 PM] Sirius 17: Pentecost
    [1:08:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is what this is
    [1:08:31 PM] Sirius 17: what else can consume the devils lol
    [1:08:46 PM] Shiloh:

    Acts.2.1-4: - KJV
    1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
    2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
    3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
    4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    [1:09:02 PM] Shiloh: [1:08 PM] Shiloh:

    <<< 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

    [1:09:28 PM] Sirius 17: dragon breath
    [1:09:34 PM] Shiloh:

    Gospel of Thomas - Lambdin
    (10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."
    (13) ... "If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."
    (16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."
    (82) Jesus said, "He who is near me is near the fire, and he who is far from me is far from the kingdom."

    [1:10:38 PM] Shiloh: Perfect synchro
    [1:10:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [1:10:45 PM] Shiloh: With Rev.20
    [1:10:52 PM] Shiloh: So this is WHY
    [1:11:05 PM] Shiloh: Doris Day D and SG, both HAD TO GET REAL
    [1:11:18 PM] Shiloh: No more nabs bullshiting themselves
    [1:11:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes makes sense
    [1:11:32 PM] Shiloh: So Dorothy stopped pretending to 'love me' see?
    [1:11:39 PM] Shiloh: Same with SG
    [1:11:41 PM] Sirius 17: yep, it worked
    [1:11:46 PM] Shiloh: they really wanted to split
    [1:11:53 PM] Sirius 17: seems so
    [1:12:03 PM] Shiloh: Dorothy's latest comments show this
    [1:12:20 PM] Shiloh: She seems more 'realistic'
    [1:12:31 PM] Shiloh: And finding herself in a fighting mode as she feels the loss
    [1:12:54 PM] Shiloh: I wonder how this affects 44 and 48 though
    [1:13:08 PM] Sirius 17: i don't know
    [1:13:17 PM] Shiloh: Well you are there
    [1:13:35 PM] Sirius 17: i am on my moon
    [1:13:38 PM] Sirius 17: no
    [1:13:53 PM] Shiloh: Wesak New Moon
    [1:13:55 PM] Sirius 17: i tried to talk to him again about it too
    [1:13:59 PM] Shiloh: Buddha New Moon
    [1:14:51 PM] Shiloh: April 29th 6:18 UCT
    [1:15:22 PM] Shiloh: Beltane as the most potent Wicca day and so the ptb rituals
    [1:15:32 PM] Sirius 17: well i started my period i guess on the 28th/29 for you
    [1:15:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know today is May 1st
    [1:16:47 PM] Shiloh: Wesak Moon is the Full Moon in Taurus 19:19 May 14th
    [1:17:05 PM] Shiloh: When your 90 days expire
    [1:17:18 PM] Sirius 17: yes it expires on the 11th
    [1:17:34 PM] Shiloh: Feb 11 + 90 = May 12th
    [1:17:48 PM] Sirius 17: something like that
    [1:19:31 PM] Shiloh: We are so arrogant and deluded I know
    [1:20:45 PM] Shiloh: I dont blame you
    [1:21:00 PM] Shiloh: It would be arduous just to talk to those morons
    [1:21:05 PM] Sirius 17: it is
    [1:21:11 PM] Sirius 17: and this guy, omg tony
    [1:21:18 PM] Shiloh: Know it all I know
    [1:21:58 PM] Shiloh: Nono he learned how to do it now
    [1:22:03 PM] Sirius 17: oh good
    [1:22:33 PM] Shiloh: They ruin the people's trust in their own spirituality
    [1:22:45 PM] Sirius 17: yes and lives
    [1:22:53 PM] Shiloh: I know lol look at me
    [1:23:07 PM] Sirius 17: yes it pisses me off
    [1:23:13 PM] Shiloh: I had this since 1975
    [1:23:31 PM] Shiloh: Morons telling you what to do and think
    [1:24:04 PM] Shiloh: Here in Oz it has taken a bad turn politically
    [1:24:18 PM] Shiloh: Cutting health education etc all for the banks
    [1:24:47 PM] Shiloh: Time will soon be up and the ptb will have to act
    [1:24:57 PM] Sirius 17: i need to do something, get out of the house
    [1:25:01 PM] Sirius 17: even if i just work part time
    [1:25:07 PM] Sirius 17: i am going bat shi20 crazy here
    [1:25:11 PM] Shiloh: Oh sure I am not against it
    [1:25:47 PM] Shiloh: Just saying that things must change probably for the worst in the rich countries like USA, Oz, Canada and parts of Western Europe
    [1:26:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw the video you posted on the coming economic collapse
    [1:26:36 PM] Sirius 17: is this what you think will happen
    [1:26:51 PM] Shiloh: More or less

    [1:27:09 PM] Shiloh: There are two interesting ones on Corso, you should check out too

    [1:27:37 PM] Shiloh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58xEbRI3UKI
    [1:27:58 PM] Shiloh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RzA6cV7DWk

    [1:28:36 PM] Shiloh: I will share them
    [1:28:59 PM] Shiloh: On analysis, both videos are fifty-fifty
    [1:29:18 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm corso, i am trying to remember him
    [1:29:33 PM] Shiloh: But I really liked junior bringing in the time travelling factor regarding the UFO phenomenon and then linking this straight to the Book of Job
    [1:30:02 PM] Sirius 17: hmm i will check them out later
    [1:30:14 PM] Shiloh: Well he has the interviewer 'spellbound' as he says he knows basically 'all the secrets' and the future timelines
    [1:30:22 PM] Sirius 17: James came home and he is hungry so we may go get something to eat
    [1:30:55 PM] Shiloh: I feel he has the overview 'spot on' but mixes up some details regarding the 'rough play' of the ETs etc
    [1:30:59 PM] Sirius 17: do you feel that his testimony is accurate or bs or a mix of both truth and fiction?
    [1:31:14 PM] Shiloh: More accurate than misinformation
    [1:31:45 PM] Shiloh: But the claims of the 'ET back engeneering' the computer chip, lasers and fibre optics is BOTH
    [1:32:00 PM] Shiloh: There are skeptics on the 1st video and their points are valid too
    [1:32:28 PM] Shiloh: You should see then that the testimony is BOTH a recall of the past AND a 'projection of the future'
    [1:32:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes well i feel they have back engineered ET tech, how much of this they have released to the public is questionable
    [1:32:50 PM] Sirius 17: but no doubt the military gets the good shi20 and the black ops definitely
    [1:33:37 PM] Shiloh: Exactly, it is both natural evolution of terran science, which by nature is ET lol, as we know AND it is like a 'looking at ET tech' as hstarhuman future science in a timespace bubble
    [1:33:55 PM] Sirius 17: yes i agree
    [1:34:14 PM] Shiloh: I share this on opscam and we can share more 'insider' data later, after you watched both of them
    [1:34:55 PM] Shiloh: The junior one is 'fascinating' as he seems to be sincere, yet a little 'trapped' in the overview of his father
    [1:35:00 PM] Sirius 17: i was thinking today about Atlantis and how we are definitely in those times, humanity is on the brink of its own distruction while the 'elites' act as if nothing is wrong and they are still playing their fuc11ing power games
    [1:35:07 PM] Sirius 17: sure
    [1:35:29 PM] Shiloh: We are lol. Take away the Nabs and you know what Atlantis becomes
    [1:35:53 PM] Sirius 17: new land
    [1:36:23 PM] Sirius 17: well a war, and it is


    shiloh hidden-09.

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  9. admin

    admin Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Posted May 17th

    [2:16:54 PM-Saturday, May 17th, 2014 +10UCT] Sirius 17:

    [2:16:59 PM] Sirius 17: this is also interesting
    [2:17:10 PM] Sirius 17: JT shared this on FB and apparently the story is valid
    [2:17:23 PM] Sirius 17:

    Russia loses $275 million satellite in latest rocket failure

    EPA: Roscosmos, Handout
    A Proton-M launch vehicle with three Glonass-M satellites onboard while being mounted on its launch pad.
    By Dmitry Solovyov of Reuters

    ALMATY (Reuters) - A Russian rocket carrying a $275 million telecommunications satellite failed and burned up shortly after launch on Friday, the latest in a series of setbacks for Russia's once-pioneering space industry.
    It was the second failure for Russia's workhorse Proton-M rocket in less than a year, and the second time that it had failed to deliver a European satellite intended to provide advanced telecoms and Internet access to remote parts of Russia, after the last one crashed shortly after launch in 2011.
    Friday's unmanned mission went awry when the engine on the third stage of the Proton-M booster rocket failed, Oleg Ostapenko, head of the Russian space agency Roskosmos, told Russian news agencies. He said the precise cause was unknown.
    The failure occurred at an altitude of 160 km (100 miles), about nine minutes after the early-morning lift-off from the Russian-leased Baikonur facility in Kazakhstan.
    The state-run RIA quoted Ostapenko as saying that the rocket and all debris had burned up in the atmosphere: "We can say with certainty that nothing reached Earth."
    However, Russian media said some debris may have fallen into the Pacific or been scattered over Siberia and Russia's Far East. No casualties or damage were reported on the ground.
    The lost Express AM4R satellite, worth more than 200 million euros ($275 million), was described by its maker Astrium, a unit of the European aerospace group Airbus AIR.PA, as one of the most powerful satellites built in Europe.
    Its loss delays a number of commercial projects by three to four years.
    "It's a heavy blow, of course. And the thing is that our workhorse rocket - our most powerful and the most-used rocket - has such a bad record," Ivan Moiseyev, head of the Russian-based Institute of Space Policy think tank, told Kommersant-FM radio.
    He said the rocket had a 7 percent failure rate, and its unreliability was making it harder for Russia to compete in the multibillion-dollar global satellite launch industry, giving a boost to its European rival Arianespace and the American newcomer SpaceX. (Full Story)
    "It's a very unsuccessful picture on the whole and, if you compare it with our main competitors, with Europe, their last accident was 12 years ago," Moiseyev said.
    Last July, three navigation satellites worth about $200 million were lost when the Proton-M rocket crashed near the launch pad shortly after take-off.
    That accident strained relations between Kazakhstan and Russia and led Kazakhstan to temporarily ban Proton launches from Baikonur.
    State-run Rossiya-24 television said all launches had been suspended from Kazakhstan after Friday's failure.
    (Reporting by Dmitry Solovyov, editing by Jason Bush and Timolthy Heritage)

    [2:18:30 PM] Sirius 17: i watched the video and it seems genuine, it is hard to see the UFO but it is there
    [8:23:58 PM] *** Shiloh sent euphrates11.jpg ***
    [8:24:09 PM] Shiloh: Finally finished the next chart
    [8:24:40 PM] Shiloh: I could accomodate some detail I thought first of having to create separately
    [8:24:58 PM] Shiloh: So this will save some time
    [8:25:04 PM] Shiloh: But the big one is yet to come
    [8:25:34 PM] Shiloh: Yes, Joseph feels something the emotional cosmos is changing because of the 'inner feedback'
    [8:29:50 PM] Shiloh: Yes this was a ufo intersecting this rocket
    [8:30:09 PM] Shiloh: I might be on the mark here with the 'inner changes' see?
    [8:31:23 PM] Shiloh: The Russians 'officially' call this just a failure, but the ufo can be seen to intersect the proton rocket's flightpath
    [8:32:03 PM] Shiloh: Genuine 'contact' imo. To watch this ufo one should look at this video full screen

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  10. admin

    admin Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Posted May 25th

    [6:42:57 AM] Sirius 17:

    17 The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.
    18 And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness.
    19 And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.
    20 And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.

    [6:48:32 AM] Sirius 17: oh i see where you decoded this yes the 40+ 450=490

    [3:19:58 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140518164244.htm
    [3:20:05 PM] Sirius 17: you might find this interesting
    [3:20:25 PM] Sirius 17: Physicists have discovered how to create matter from light -- a feat thought impossible when the idea was first theorized 80 years ago. In just one day over several cups of coffee in a tiny office, three physicists worked out a relatively simple way to physically prove a theory first devised by scientists Breit and Wheeler in 1934.

    [5:57:49 PM] Shiloh: [5:45:28 PM] MERLIN JT! MAAT : Greetings Tony how are you! It has been a,while since we spoke...oh how I enjoyed our many conversations regarding,the thuban data! The metaphysics and interpretations and implications of this material is fascinating beyond imagination because it seems,to be the,framework,for,dreams,to,come true this is why,I focus on the understandings of four dimensional light ship such as the orb ship that made its presence known over the dome of the rock almost as if,in response to some of your material being released into reality.
    [5:48:09 PM] Shiloh: Merci JT; yes the greater implementations of those dreams of a collective and 'mentally imprisoned' humanity are under way
    [5:48:56 PM] Shiloh: I am just finishing another template, which historically defines what is going on and why those changes take the time they need
    [5:49:25 PM] Shiloh: But since May 10th, that is 2 weeks ago a great 'gate' has opened

    [5:52:35 PM] MERLIN JT! MAAT : It would seem,that events are unfolding and for me,the contact,event and gaining access,to advanced modes of,life,such as connections with our,future selves and actually traveling to other,world's as well as other,concepts such as truly sustaining our bodies forever and the understandings of quantum immortality as well as,many other concepts..
    I have been getting many flashes of information related,to much of this data,you have shared,and am working on a new,blog
    ..maybe put on one more,show,for,the,world ol merlin shake a speer and slice through some lies,with,the,sharp,edge to excalibur or truth such as,the universal facts,in harmony with,the logos lol and,for,fun

    [5:56:30 PM] Shiloh: 2014 is the great initiation JT
    [5:56:59 PM] Shiloh: 2015 will see the physicality beginning to have an effect on the people politics etc
    [5:57:12 PM] Shiloh: From end of 2015 i do expect contact
    [5:57:34 PM] *** Shiloh sent Danny.jpg ***

    [6:35:56 PM] Shiloh: [6:05:53 PM] MERLIN JT! MAAT : Yes,what do you think contact will be can you expand on that at all it in relation to you data and time line discoveries I am trying to be patient for the said reconfiguration. Honestly the energy alchomizatuon of turning inside out has been,so intense...since 2012 shift the pressure has been most,intense mental energy drain and extreme focus to the great work has been required as we have truly come so far in just a few short earth years of gaining the knowledge collectively through the energy work and star seeding of all this alchemical wisdom you have been sharing as I have said you gaian merkaba post triggered much with in me and will forever be thankful for such resonating information. I wish we could expand upon all this timelines and the implications of such material to a even greater degree of understanding

    [6:08:40 PM] Shiloh: yes the 2012 solstice changed the timelines
    [6:09:00 PM] Shiloh: People are too daft and write about silly Nibiru and annunaki BS
    [6:09:22 PM] Shiloh: What happened was that the 'normal time' could then become 'shortened'
    [6:09:28 PM] Shiloh: This is a timewarping
    [6:09:51 PM] Shiloh: it allowed contact to become possible
    [6:10:08 PM] Shiloh: Because this planet is like the inside of an egg
    [6:10:14 PM] Shiloh: Quarantine zone
    [6:10:35 PM] Shiloh: Unless the egg can be cracked from the INSIDE you cant get out
    [6:10:50 PM] Shiloh: No new life can be born from it and this is the contact
    [6:11:14 PM] Shiloh: All the Thuban work is to 'crack the egg'
    [6:11:19 PM] Shiloh: This is what you feel
    [6:11:33 PM] Shiloh: merlin is an 'egg cracker'
    [6:12:12 PM] Shiloh: If there is NO contact this planet and its civilization MUST self destruct by 2050
    [6:12:25 PM] Shiloh: 2050 is like 70AD
    [6:12:39 PM] Shiloh: When the Old Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans
    [6:12:50 PM] Shiloh: Nowadays old Jerusalem is the entire planet
    [6:13:21 PM] Shiloh: So not just a city or some country but all must go in 'normal time'
    [6:13:42 PM] Shiloh: 2012 changed all that in a 7 year cycle period from 2008 to 2015

    [6:30:02 PM] MERLIN JT! MAAT : So what are we,to expect for contact events I suppose this is related to our ability to manifest or to use our thoughts and emotions in hybridization with the return of God to creation in the alchemical wedding of et mind and human body..
    I dream of contact with mother ships from other star nations as many have spoken about connection to other world as soul memories and perhaps past incarnations will we see other beings how dose the quantum shift as discussed in the earth magnetic field relate to life on other world's are they outside the quarantine zones that have been described for us to have break the shell from with in.

    [6:34:15 PM] Shiloh: Yes contact will be a matching between the inside souls and the outside souls
    [6:34:31 PM] Shiloh: So it will be a self invasion and not some alien agenda
    [6:34:47 PM] Shiloh: But star cruisers and motherships are required

    [6:34:50 PM] MERLIN JT! MAAT : Yes the contact is then critical to the evolution of life upon this world to save society and rebuild civilization upon universal laws of self resonance and awareness of being souls and aspects of God incarnated with in the matrix of heaven... We're,already in it and as you said we already,have the perfect body forms oh this is all so fascinating and intense

    [6:34:55 PM] Shiloh: Superior airpower
    [6:35:17 PM] Shiloh: Yes JT you got the big picture all ok

    [6:35:36 PM] Shiloh: You will live to witness it

    [9:11:56 PM] *** Shiloh sent daniel.gif ***

    [9:18:33 PM] Shiloh: The physics above is at the core of 'Pair-Annihilation-Creation' at the basis of the Big Bang where it as not high energy photons colliding with another high energy photon beam, as in this experiment; but it was monopolic emr creating monopolic matter (i.e. no antimatter is necessary) in an intrinsic supersymmetry between the 'light' and the antilight aka the 'God particle' and the 'Devil particle' etc
    [9:20:43 PM] Shiloh: This supersymmetry is the 'parent' of the Higgs Boson as a boson partner for the fermionic neutron pair deriving from it in spin polarization with the gauge interaction particles of the Standard model
    [9:21:35 PM] Shiloh: See there that two neutron oppositely spinning derive from the 0-spin of the Higgs Boson and no antineutrons
    [9:22:16 PM] Shiloh: Ergo the mystery of why there is 'no naturally distributed antimatter' in the cosmos is solved in a correct application of the gauge physics
    [9:23:17 PM] Shiloh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_production
    [9:24:42 PM] Shiloh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron%E2%80%93positron_annihilation

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