Goddess Freedom in Adam and Eve and Paul's apparent Sexism in the NT and the 'Evil ETs' as Archons

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    Goddess Freedom in Adam and Eve and Paul's apparent Sexism in the NT and the 'Evil ETs' as Archons from John's Apocryphon

    Throughout modern history, here meaning the timespan of the last two thousand years and corresponding to the cultural establishment of the Christian mainstream religion as a social construct; the role of womanhood within this religious paradigm has been clouded in a perceived sexism of male domination and feminine suppression.
    In the so called middle ages, womanhood was generally associated with a perceived devilhood itself and resulted in associating any deviation of female independent thought and selfexpression with witchcraft and association with that devil as the adversary of God himself.

    During the last two millennia or so countless atrocities and a general subjugation of the feminine so manifested in diverse forms to then result in 'grass root' movements and social reforms, often collectively labeled under the genre of feminism and for a search and a rediscovery of the feminine divinity.
    This essay shall reexamine the reasons for this discriminative attitude, say as exemplified in the following scripture and then show the purpose for this perceived sexism to be anything but a temporary guardianship for the everpresent feminine divinity established at the creation itself.

    Woman are told not to speak in the churches and are not to fulfil the role of a male priest, as for example in:

    "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"

    What scripture readers, lawmakers and legislators commonly fail to understand, is that scriptural and ancient texts like the above embed both exoteric-outer and endoteric-esoteric-inner meanings for discernment.
    The esoteric decipherment of extroverted text is fundamentally based on symbols and archetypes, which transcend any cultural and moralistic ethical meaning which might be in vogue at the time of the transcription, the translations or the edits of the former.

    Then to allow such esoteric discernment, the origin and history of the archetypes and the symbols used becomes necessity for crystallization of the 'deeper' and inner meaning of the texts.
    Subsequently, the correct interpretation makes perfect sense; whilst the incorrect translation causes resentment and discord between religious factions with no end in sight.

    One might begin with the 'Unspeakable Holy Name' of the creator itself and it is the she-part of the 'Holy name' of (YaH)W(HeY)=(He-Soul)&(She-Soul), which 'by law' must be subject to the creator as the creation.
    The He-part creates and the She-part manifests as the created, but for the higher purpose to give birth to the creator as 'her Baby and her creation'.

    That is beautifully described in the gnostic mythology, where 'Barbelo' as the 'Wisdom of Sophia' and the 'First Thought' decides to create, without her creator and lover in the 'Perfect One', who had thought her into being.

    Wikipedia reference to the 'Apocryphon of John' aka 'The Secret Book of John'; generally considered to be the main text to study and analyse the pre-Christian philosophy collectively labeled as 'Gnosis' or 'Insight' and related to 'Knowledge' and 'Scientia or Science'. Some of the wording in this text is convoluted and representative of the setting at the times. The labels and names of say the archons, can themselves be considered lower order labelings for higher order principals, say as defined in modern scientific nomenclature. The description here is given as an introduction and shall become simplified in the later story of 'Bigmo's Balloon'.

    {The Apocryphon, set in the framing device of a revelation delivered by the resurrected Christ to John the son of Zebedee, contains some of the most extensive detailing of classic dualistic Gnostic mythology that has survived; as one of the principal texts of the Nag Hammadi library, it is an essential text of study for anyone interested in Gnosticism. Frederick Wisse, who translated it, asserts that "The Apocryphon of John was still used in the eighth century by the Audians of Mesopotamia" (Wisse p 104).

    The Apocryphon of John has become the central text for studying the gnostic tradition of Antiquity. The creation mythology it details has been the object of study of such writers as Carl Jung and Eric Voegelin.


    Barbelo, when created, had been blessed with the fivefolded image of the Father as the Mother.
    So Sophia was androgynous with her lover in Thought, Foreknowledge, Imperishability, Eternal Life and Truth. When the 'Perfect One' had entered her within the tenfolded 'Sephirotic Tree' of the androgyny; Barbelo conceived a 'Lovechild' of pure Light and brought forth the 'Christ'.

    The 'Father' or the 'Perfect One' blessed the 'only begotten' with 'Mind', after the 'only begotten' had asked for a companion for hisher 'Loving Light', which constituted its essence. And once the Father had given the 'Mind' the 'Mind' asked for the companionship of the 'Will' who in turn asked for the companionship of the 'Word' now manifest as the 'Logos' or the 'Word of Christ', which hitherto had been spoken in silence. The 'Loving Light' then mingled with the 'Loving Mind' and the 'Loving Will' and the 'Loving Word' to produce four starry realms or principalities as the domain for the 'LoveChild'.

    The first Star is Armozel, the 'Fire of Michael' with Grace, Truth and Form expressing the mindfulness of the enlightened will by the word.
    The second Star is Oroiel, the 'Earth of Uriel' with Perception, Afterthought and Memory.
    The third Star is Daveithai, the 'Air of Gabriel' with Understanding, Love and Idea.
    The fourth Star is Eleleth, the 'Water of Raphael' with Perfection, Peace and Thoughtfulness.
    Having thus created the 'Kingdom of Christ' in principalities; the first revelation occurred; the first 'Perfect Image of the One Father' appeared as Pigeradamas, the 'Perfect Human One'.
    Pigeradamas became the Image of the Father through the medium of the 'Christ'; and the 'Word' of 'Christ' became 'flesh' in Pigeradamas, along with its companions of the 'Will' and the 'Mind'.
    And Pigeradamas was appointed to share Michael's principality of the Fire and Pigeradamas' Son Seth became ruler with Uriel's Earth and Pigeradamas' Grandson Enos ruled with Gabriel's Air.
    Raphael's Water then became the domicile for the subsequent generations and who had by then forgotten to honour their ancestors because of their loss of the thoughtfulness.

    Now Barbelo, the Eternal Mother and lover of the 'Perfect One Father', had been created as Thought by the Forethought of the Father.

    And Sophia became the Afterthought, born from the Thought and thought to experience what a Forethought might be and so Sophia, as the Wisdom of the Earth and the material creation, used herhis androgynous power of the doubled fivefolded symmetry of the 'Tree of Life' to give birth to a being just like herhisself.
    But without herhis lover, the 'Perfect One', that what Barbelo brought forth was imperfect and not at all like herhisself, as shehe had it planned to be in herhis forethoughtfulness.

    The 'illegitimate' Baby was a serpent with the face of a lion and with eyes like flashing lightning.
    Barbelo called herhis Baby 'Yaldabaoth Saklas Samael'.
    Barbelo became aware of herhis ignorance and tried to hide Yaldabaoth in a bright cloud and on a throne, so that noone in herhis realm of the 'Perfect One' would see, what shehe had done.

    But Yaldabaoth had inherited great power from his mother and he was a he, since the she-part from the Father was not given to him in his conception.
    And the light of the he-part given to Yaldabaoth by his mother made Yaldabaoth aware of the kingdom created by his older brothersister, the heshe of the 'ChristChild'.
    But the missing she-part made him mindless and ignorant in regards to the Forethought of his GrandfatherMother, the 'Perfect One', who had given birth to his Mother through hisher Thought.

    And so Yaldabaoth could not understand the being of the Two-in-One and he declared throughout the kingdom, which he created as an image to the kingdom of the Christ:
    "I am God and there is no other God besides me!"

    And Yaldabaoth used the light of his Mother's power to infiltrate the kingdom of the Christ to pose as the lord of that kingdom.
    He superimposed 12 of his own principalities upon the dominions of the four stars; seven he set over the seven heavens of: Athoth, Harmas, Kalila-Oumbri, Yabel, Adonaios-Sabaoth, Cain and Abel; and five he set over the five hells of: Abrisene, Yobel, Armoupiael, Melcheir-Adonein and Belias.
    The four stars he named as: Michael/Beelzebub; Uriel/Asmodeus; Gabriel/Belial; Raphael/Abaddon.

    Grace became the Goodness of Athoth with the face of a sheep; Perception became the Forethought of Eloaios with the face of a donkey; Understanding became the Divinity of Astaphaios with the face of an hyena; Perfection became the Lordship of Yao with the face of a snake with seven heads; Truth became the Kingdom of Sabaoth with the face of a dragon; Afterthought became the Jealousy of Adonin with the face of an ape and Love became the Understanding of Sabbataios with the face of a flaming fire.

    These are the seven heavens of Yaldabaoth superimposed upon the seven cycles of a week: Sunday as Athoth; Monday as Eloaios; Tuesday as Astaphaios; Wednesday as Yao; Thursday as Sabaoth; Friday as Adonin and Saturday as Sabbataios.
    But the Understanding of the Star Daveithai is the third heaven of Gemini and the Understanding of Sabbataios is mapped onto the seventh heaven of Love and of Libra for a 'twinned balance in the scales of justice'.

    And so the five hells are mapped in the mirror of Love and Understanding to balance the Yaldabaothic definitions in:
    1st & 12th heaven of the graceful thought of Aries/Pisces for the 5th hell of the thoughtlessness; 2nd & 11th heaven of the perceptive idea of Taurus/Aquarius for the 4th hell of the mental dullness; 4th & 10th heaven of the perfected memory of Cancer/Capricorn for the 3rd hell of the forgetfulness; 5th & 9th heaven of the truthful form of Leo/Sagittarius for the 2nd hell of noncreativity and the 6th & 8th heaven of the peaceful afterthought of Virgo/Scorpio for the 1st hell of war and conflict.

    But when Yaldabaoth sensed the magnificence of the 'Perfect Human' Pigeradamas, created in the Father's Image; he proclaimed: "I am a jealous God and there is no other God besides me!"

    This statement by herhis wayward son stirred Barbelo; because if there was no other God, why then would the only God be jealous, jealous of whom? Barbelo's light had diminished, infused with the darkness of herhis noncooperation with the Father. The 'Arrogant One', did not accept any authority besides his mother; he was created thus in the absence of the 'Perfect One'.

    So Sophia repented in the shadow of her ignorant creation and remembered herhis lover in the form of the himher of the heshe.
    Then the fullness of the Father visited herhim to restore what shehe was lacking, placing Barbelo into the ninth heaven of the 'Perfect Form', just above herhis Son Yaldabaoth, who ruled from the eight' heaven of the first hell of war and conflict, overseeing his seven Yaldabaothic heavens as the usurping Lord of the creation.

    And so Sophia Barbelo found herhisself in the 'Wilderness' awaiting deliverance.
    Then was heard a voice from the 13th heaven, that is from the Father's domain of the F-space of the Forethought: "Humanity exists and the Child of Humanity in the Son of Man!"

    As Yaldabaoth heard that voice, he thought it to come from his Mother, stationed above himself.
    The foundations of hell began to shake and quake as the image of the MotherFather in human form appeared in the mirror of the M-space, reflecting the light of the 11th heaven of Barbelo's idea downwards into the lower heavenly dimensions and outwards into the 12th heaven of the thoughtfulness.
    Then Yaldabaoth, hungry for his Mother's light and power and overawed in the spectacular display of his Mother's might and authority called his rulers and said:

    "Come, let us create a human being after the image of God and with a likeness to ourselves, so that this human image may give us light."

    And Yaldabaoth and his powers of hell used the image of the MotherFather in the 11D mirror to create the human being, which he had sensed before, but had never seen in manifestation.
    His Goodness created a 'soul of bone'; his Forethought created a 'soul of sinew'; his Divinity created a 'soul of flesh'; his Lordship created a 'soul of marrow'; his Kingdom created a 'soul of blood'; his Jealousy created a 'soul of skin' and his Understanding created a 'soul of eyelid'.
    Thereafter 365 angelic qualities mixed the seven heavens and the five hells to manifest Adam, the first human being and after the form of Pigeradamas, the AdamEve of the 13th heaven, but appearing as the image of Yaldabaoth's Mother in the mirror.

    But after the Yaldabaothic creators had finished their work, Adam would not move.
    Barbelo's idea was to regain herhis power lost through herhis ignorant deed to Yaldabaoth; so shehe asked for the Father's assistance, who sent five stars, one each for every hell to Yaldabaoth for the purpose to advise them upon an action to bring Adam alive.
    The messengers said to Yaldabaoth: "Breathe some of your spirit into the face of Adam, and then the body will arise."

    Yaldabaoth did so, not knowing that his spirit was the lost power of his Mother.
    The Mother's power so transferred from Yaldabaoth into Adam, who moved and became powerful.
    And through the image of Pigeradamas; Adam was enlightened as the image of the FatherMother.

    At once the Yaldabaothic powers became very jealous; they had planned to use the human as a source of energy, reflecting the Mother's power back to themselves.
    Adam could think more clearly in the power of the 12 heavens and the Kingdom of Christ; heshe was evidently more intelligent than hisher creators.
    Subsequently, the material creators of Adam banished himher into the first hell of war and conflict.
    The peaceful afterthought also resided in the hell of war and conflict however, and the afterthought was hidden as Eve in Adam, without the Yaldabaothic rulers being aware of that fact.

    And the Afterthought of Eve became the She-part of the MotherFather, which so in cooperation and support of the He-part, would be able to restore Barbelo into the 13th heaven of the Father.
    As Yaldabaoth realised, that some of his own power had transferred to Adam, he used the untrue form of the 2nd hell and the forgetfulness of the 3rd hell to reduce Adam's intellectual understanding.

    Adam descended into mortality in the 2nd hell, the elemental energies intermixing the Kingdom of Christ in the Kingdom of Yaldabaoth and the true immortal form of Pigeradamas became corrupted.
    Fire, Earth, Air and Water became destructive as well as constructive and Adam became estranged in hisher forgetfulness, regarding hisher origins - this made Afterthought appear to Yaldabaoth.

    The Yaldabaothic rulers then placed Adam into the fourth hell of the mental dullness, also called Paradise or the Garden of Eden and used Adam's now mortal form to create an image in the likeness of the afterthought which had appeared as the Mother's She-part.

    The Mother's He-part was in Paradise as the 'Tree of Eternal Life' and the Mother's She-part became the 'Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil'.
    So to keep Adam and Eve ignorant of their situation; an instruction had to be issued for Eve not to discover her ambassadoraship for Barbelo.
    The decree of Yaldabaoth therefore was for the dulled humans not to 'eat' of the fruit from the 'Tree of Knowledge about Good and Evil'.

    But the FatherMother helped the MotherFather in herhis wilderness in sending two stars as messengers into the fourth hell of the mental dullness, which is also the Yaldabaothic 2nd heaven.
    The Star of the Perception of Taurus joined with the Star of the Idea of Aquarius to balance the dominion of Yaldabaoth's 11th ruler in Melcheir-Adonein and Yaldabaoth's 2nd ruler in Harmas and in Eloaios.
    The 3 hells above conjoined their images and the Lordship of Yao as the snake with seven heads, together with the Truth of Sabaoth as the dragon and the Jealousy of Adonin as the ape mingled to create the Serpentine Dragon with the apish face resembling a lion.

    Now the balance for this image is the Griffin with an Eagle's Head and Wings and the body of a lion, as symbolised in the Sphinx.
    Putting the two mythological images together results in a Lion and a Cockatrice; the latter being a form of a Rooster with a Dragon's tail or a serpent of the basilisk, of the 'evil eye', which causes death by the medusian glance and as the 'soul of the eyelid' in the creation of the 'flaming fire' of Yaldabaoth's seventh ruler of the Understanding in Abel and Sabbataios.

    gnosisrooster1. gnosticcock1.

    Now a symbol for the resurrection is the Phoenix-Cock, which is the ascended Eagle of Christ.
    And so the Serpent of Yaldabaoth is also the Lion of the Christ and in the form of the Serpent, which moves up and down in a winding motion and not sidewise, like a snake; did the Mother's He-part induce her She-part in Eve not to forget her commission as the MotherFather's Daughter.


    "For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD" in Jeremiah.8.17.

    "And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.", it says in Isaiah.11.8.

    zwolleseal. evileye.
    City seal of Zwolle from 1295 with Saint Michael killing a basilisk as an 'evil eye'

    The basilisk is called "king" because it is reputed to have on its head a mitre- or crown-shaped crest. Stories of the basilisk show that it is not completely distinguished from the cockatrice. The basilisk is alleged to be hatched by a cockerel from the egg of a serpent or toad (the reverse of the cockatrice, which was hatched from a cockerel's "egg" incubated by a serpent or toad). In Medieval Europe, the description of the creature began taking on features from cockerels.

    One of the earliest accounts of the basilisk comes from Pliny the Elder's Natural History, written in roughly 79 AD. He describes the catoblepas, a monstrous cow-like creature of which "all who behold its eyes, fall dead upon the spot,"[3] and then goes on to say,
    "There is the same power also in the serpent called the basilisk. It is produced in the province of Cyrene, being not more than twelve fingers in length. It has a white spot on the head, strongly resembling a sort of a diadem. When it hisses, all the other serpents fly from it: and it does not advance its body, like the others, by a succession of folds, but moves along upright and erect upon the middle. It destroys all shrubs, not only by its contact, but those even that it has breathed upon; it burns up all the grass too, and breaks the stones, so tremendous is its noxious influence. It was formerly a general belief that if a man on horseback killed one of these animals with a spear, the poison would run up the weapon and kill, not only the rider, but the horse as well. To this dreadful monster the crow of a rooster is fatal, a thing that has been tried with success, for kings have often desired to see its body when killed; so true is it that it has pleased Nature that there should be nothing without its antidote. The animal is thrown into the hole of the basilisk, which is easily known from the soil around it being infected. The weasel destroys the basilisk by its odour, but dies itself in this struggle of nature against its own self."

    The modular duality of the supermembranes has many analogies in science and in mythology.

    One famous one is the riddle about the chicken and the egg.

    What came first, the chicken or the egg?
    If the chicken, then it lays the egg as a hen and if the egg, then the chicken hatches from it.

    But it is no paradox in omniscience!

    In quantum relativity, one is relative to to other and so it is like the Father can be his own Father, but needs a Mother to give birth to himself and corollarily; the Mother can be her own Mother, but requires a Father to create herself.

    So the sperm of the Father is like the DNA, a genetic library, which cannot become an expression from that database without finding an ovum in which it can become a Father like the RNA.

    This is the reason behind the mechanics of messengerDNA encoding DNA, which transcribes messengerRNA encoding RNA, which then transcribes Amino Acids to construct the morphology for the bodies from the spermbased genetic library.

    So in other words; the sperm can be the sperm as the chicken, but not much else and the ovum can be the ovum as the egg, but not much else - yet bringing the two together creates the potential to become a great many things."

    Robert Sceptico: "There is a quaint story in mythology, which tries to reconstruct this omniscience, Logan.

    The Rooster's Egg or the Basilisk of the Devil

    "There once was this male old devil, who lost one of his balls, one of his testicles.
    The testicular egg fell upon the earth and landed in a swamp, where Maria Basra, the old hagtoad found it and sat upon it to hatch it.
    When the time was ripe, a Cockatrice came out of the egg, with a serpent's tail and the head of a rooster.

    The Cockatrice, being the offspring of the old devil, and knowing that it had fallen to earth by misadventure, sought for a way to return into the kingdom of its father, but couldn't find one.
    So the Cockatrice became very frustrated with its existence and when it had grown bigger, it ate its own adopted mother in the old hagtoad Maria Basra.

    But then something strange happened to the body of the Cockatrice; it started to divide into two.
    The headpart grew a tail and the tailpart grew a head and the headpart became a hen out of the rooster's head and the tailpart became a rooster out of the serpent's tail.

    And so were the first rooster and hen born from the Cockatrician testicle of the old devil and the old hagtoad Maria Basra."

    But there is a coded twist to the moral of that fabled story Logan.
    An anagram for MARIA BASRA is ABRAM SARAI, the ancestor for the starhuman race in three of the major worldwide religions.
    Islam, Judaism and Christianity; all consider Abram and Sarai, later renamed from their human identities as Abraham and Sarah in their starhuman potential, as the beginning in their genealogies, their lineages written in blood.

    So the gnostic interpretation of the myth is that half of the creator got lost in its creation and that is symbolised by the testicular egg.
    Then the big old creation, which is lost in itself as a female principle, nurtures something new in the form of the old hagtoad hatching the little old creation into a little new creation.

    This little new creation is however unable to become a big new creation, because it desires to become the big old creation in whom it already finds itself and so is already part of.
    It tries to eat the big old creation to become the same, but in the process it metamorphoses and becomes an ancestor for the big new creation, just as told in the story of Abraham and Sarah in the scroll of the Genesis.

    So the creation of Abraham and Sarah in a renaming of the old, is like a prototypical 'heavenly wedding', later manifesting in their descendants of the sondaughters as the bridegrooms and in the daughtersons as the brides in the dragonomies of the 'New Jerusalem' and as coded in the scroll of 'John's Revelation'.

    The joining of Abraham and Sarah in Mind and in Body, to become Two, but being One, then brings the lost devil's egg back to god's serpentine sperm in a w(holley) unitary symmetry of a dragonomy."

    Logan Antico: "Yes, and everyone alive today carries the genetic inheritance of this 'starseed'; we should know as initiates into the ancient mysteries of Mesopotamia, the socalled 'cradle for this civilisation."

    Robert Sceptico: "Indeed, this obsession with their bloodlines, which some people experience has its origins in the seeding of the starhuman race in the House of Azurguya, and as coded in diluted fashion in the Genesis scroll and the story of Abram of Ur, marrying his halfsister Sarai of Terah's patriarchy.

    But you studied that encoding some time ago, perhaps you can use your number-letter code to shed some light on the relevance of the old Mesopotamian beginnings."

    And so Eve did, what Yaldabaoth didn't want her to do and in her rediscovered wisdom about the knowledge and the remembrance about the 'Good and the Evil', she told Adam about it and both realised that they were 'naked singularities' with no other beings like them yet in existence.

    When Yaldabaoth realised, that the humans had rejected him and his laws; he threw them both into the fifth hell of the thoughtlessness, balanced however in the 1st and 12th heaven of Grace and Thoughtfulness.
    But the 'Tree of Life', the He-part of the Mother reflecting in the She-part of the Father; both of them became hidden and forgotten in the memories of Adam and Eve and their descendants.
    And since that time, the FatherMother would be thought of as a Father only and the MotherFather would be considered cursed and wicked and evil and unable to think for herself.

    Yaldabaoth then cursed the Earth, out of which he had created Adam and Eve and he cursed all the creatures which were similarly created in the blueprints of the cosmogenetic sexual chromosomes of XX and XY, being a derivative from the XXXX abstract prototype.
    In particular, he cursed the similitude of the serpent above all the cattle of the Ox of Taurus, as the Mother's 'sacred Bull' from the 2nd heaven, in causing the manifestation of the material 'Snake' not to move forwards in a serpentlike fashion, but to slither along the dusty ground.

    So the divine commandment was for Eve to assume the role of the She-part for the MotherFather and to retrieve the MotherFather's 'lost spirit' in the intersection of the 1st heaven of both Yaldabaoth in Athoth and Athoth as the 'untrue shepherd' for the 'lost sheep' with the Grace of the 'true shepherd' and the fifth hell of the thoughtlessness; but also infused with the highest of the heavens in the 12th of the thoughtfulness, bordering on the Forethought of the 13th domain of the FatherMother.

    In her role as the 'vessel' for the MotherFather's Afterthought; Eve's messianic mission was to be the supportive agent for Adam's commission to become the ambassador or steward for the Father.
    Because Barbelo's lack of foresight was responsible for the creation of the disharmony; the divine command was for Eve to subjugate her independent thoughtfulness to that of Adam until Barbelo could reassume herhis rightful place next to the FatherMother.

    This then is the penetrating sexism in the discrimination of womanhood throughout the scriptures in cultures around the globe.

    Any woman, who would or could redefine herself as a WomanMan would automatically free Barbelo in herhis ambassadoraship.
    And any such WomanMan would be free to engage in any discourse whatsoever, provided shehe could and would acknowledge herhis divine relationship with the FatherMother of himher and as herhis 'Perfect Image in One'.
    So any female priest or bishop, proclaiming herhis duty as the he-part of herhisself, would fulfil the divine decree and ordinances.

    Yaldabaoth, after having covered Adam and Eve in the darkness of the fifth hell; became aware of Eve's devotion to her husband and her diligence to become an effective medium for Sophia's afterthought, and he wanted to avoid the reproduction of this human couple at all costs.
    Yaldabaoth hence 'raped' Eve and she conceived two sons in Elohim-Cain and Yahweh-Abel, before Adam's seed could multiply the divine image of the Father.

    Elohim-Cain has the face of a Bear and has dominion over the Earth and the Water; Yahweh-Abel has the face of a Cat and has dominion over the Fire and the Air.
    Elohim-Cain was a 'tiller of the ground' and Yahweh-Abel was a 'keeper of sheep'.
    When Cain's offering was rejected, but Abel's offering was accepted; the Y-chromosome of Yaldabaoth divided against itself in the slaying of Abel by Cain.
    Cain became 'cursed' in the shadow of Elohim; whilst Abel assumed the 'innocent' and 'holy' role of Yahweh as the God of the Hebrews, known as Jehovah, the 'God of Jealousy'.

    So one must carefully differentiate between the true 'God of the Hebrews' in YaHWHeY, which is the 'God of Moses' in Exodus.3.14 as Y=I and am=ah and That=W and am=he and I=Y and the untrue JeHoVaH.

    YAHWHEY=95=IAMTHATIAM=IAMTHATAMI; but JEHOVAH=69, which is 96=95+1 backwards, the One being the 'only begotten' of the Christ from the FatherMother=MotherFather and DRAGON=59 mirrors in 95.
    And in true 'copycat' fashion then JEHOVAH+1=70=YAHWEH - which is the 'True God' MINUS the Y-chromosome of Abel and the reason for the 'ineffability' of the name of the 'God' in 70.

    Having thus usurped the 'Godhood for the Hebrews'; Yaldabaoth presumed victory and Adam sired his first true son in Seth and as had already been defined in the Kingdom of Christ in AdamEve's 'perfect image' Pigeradamas.
    Cain's 'curse' then was lifted in his 7th generation, sired in Lamech, imaging the heavenly order on earth in the seventh heaven of Love and Justice balanced in the Understanding of Sabbataios.

    The apparent sexism in the New Testament is further illustrated in the excerpts from Ephesians.5 and 1Corinthians.14.

    20Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;Â
    21Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
    22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
    23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
    24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
    25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
    26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
    27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
    28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
    29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
    30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
    31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
    32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.3
    33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

    10There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.
    11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
    12Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
    13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
    14For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
    15What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also
    16Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
    17For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
    18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
    19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
    20Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
    21In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
    22Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
    23If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
    24But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
    25And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
    26How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
    27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
    28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
    29Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
    30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
    31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
    32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
    33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
    34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
    35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
    36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
    37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
    38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
    39Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
    40Let all things be done decently and in order.

    The Sundial of Ahaz, when the Sun stood still

    The Cycle of the Year is the Ancient Platonic Year completely independent on the dynamics of the solar system; its precession around the ecliptic plane ot about 26,000 years (as 12x2160=25,920 say) or the galactic supercycles such as the rotation of the solar system around the galactic center of so 236 million years (civil say based on either tropical or sidereal daycounts of 'mean solar days').

    The Ancient Platonic year so is identical to the 360 Degrees of a Circle and is then subdivided into 12 'Ancient Days' and also 24 'Ancient Halfdays'; say as the encoded 24 Elders in Revelation.4.4 or the mirroring of the 12 Sons of Israel or Starsigns in 12 Daughters of Israel and as archetyped in the 13th Starsign of 'Dinah' Ophiuchus.

    In particular the reference to the number 15 in Isaiah.38.5 and in Revelation's 'Hour of the Beast' {Revelation.17.12} so decode as the Hour/Day=Day/Year proportion and as 1/360=Hour/24 for an 'Ancient Hour'=360/24 = 15 'Days' = 15 'Years' of Hezekiah and in conjunction with the 'Day for a Year' encoding key of Ezekiel.4.

    4Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.
    5For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.

    6And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

    The many numerical references in the prophecies so all engage this Cycle Key in relative application to the time period addressed.

    The addition of the 5 Days in the Mayan Haab or the 'short' Julian/Gregorian Year of the 365/366 days so relates to this 'addition' of cycles as say mythologized in the Story of Rah playing checkers with Thoth for a lengthening of the Ancient Circle-Year to allow the 'inseparable androgenous unity' of Shu-Tefnut (as FatherSky-MotherEarth) as the Egyptian LionTwin of the Cosmos to separate into Father Earth Geb and Mother Sky Nut.

    As 5 Days are 10 Halfdays then, the 10 Degrees of Ahaz described below become the lengthening of the 360 day Ancient Year into a 360 Day-Circle-Degree year Plus 10 Degrees of 5 days and 5 nights.

    This then becomes a basis for the mythos underpinning calendars and creation accounts for the annals of humanity.

    This 370 degree circle then becomes a crucial pivot for the scriptural fulfilment of the prophecies and is detailed in c) and the 5 Degree variation as two halfcycles manifest and are encoded as the 'Week of Confusion' or WOC say as described as the 'Noah's Week for Builing the Ark' and the 'Astonishment of Ezekiel' and the two halfweeks of Daniel as the 70th week defining March 28th, 2011 as the warpday for Julian Wednesday, March 28th, 31 AD as the Midweek Day for the 2300th Day as detailed in the second part.

    But most significantly, this structure defines the Beginning of the warptime as December 8th, 2004/24AD to coincide with the ODD MIRROR as April 1st, 2012/32AD at its End with its common Image coinciding as August 4th, 2008/28AD as the EVEN MIRROR for the patriarchial genealogy of humanity as encoded in scripture as two 1335 Day periods of the warptime loop.

    At the EVEN MIRROR NODE then, this 3½ Halfweek is DIVIDED into the forwards- and the backwards timeflow as described previously and decodes the 'about half an hour of silence in heaven' of Revelation.8.1, following the Opening of the Seventh Seal; as the 15/2=7½ Days of precisely this 'Seven Days = 1 Week' encoding and so distributing the two halfweeks as the 'Return or Inflexion of the Warptime' within the warptime loop at the ODD Mirror Node.

    1In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz came unto him, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Set thine house in order: for thou shalt die, and not live.
    2Then Hezekiah turned his face toward the wall, and prayed unto the LORD,
    3And said, Remember now, O LORD, I beseech thee, how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore.
    4Then came the word of the LORD to Isaiah, saying,
    5Go, and say to Hezekiah, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen years.
    6And I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria: and I will defend this city.
    7And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken;
    8Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.
    9The writing of Hezekiah king of Judah, when he had been sick, and was recovered of his sickness:

    17And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
    18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
    19And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
    20Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
    21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
    22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

    1Then said the LORD unto me, Go yet, love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress, according to the love of the LORD toward the children of Israel, who look to other gods, and love flagons of wine.
    2So I bought her to me for fifteen pieces of silver, and for an homer of barley, and an half homer of barley:
    3And I said unto her, Thou shalt abide for me many days; thou shalt not play the harlot, and thou shalt not be for another man: so will I also be for thee.
    4For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
    5Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

    30 Pieces of Silver = 30 days = 1 month for the 'Field of Blood'
    {Acts.1.16-20 & Matthew.27.1-10}

    15 Pieces of Silver = 15 days and 1 Homer = 100 days for 1½ Homer = 150 days = 5x30 days = 5 months
    15 Cubits = 15 Days in 2x12,000 furlongs/1,600 furlongs = 15 for 2x144,000=288,000=2x10,000x10,000=200 Million
    1600/15=106.666... as 106=INFINITY Days=56+36+7+7 of Noah's 377=7+40+110+74+40+7+7+36+56 Days in NOAH=38=29+9=22+16=4+88=92=11=884 Days

    The Story of Bigmo's Balloon as an Allegory to the Apocryphon of the Gnosis and the Nature of the Goddess in all Eves

    Imagine yourself to be a little ant inside a simple ballon her named as Bigmo's Balloon and so you can crawl about on the inner surface.
    Should there be a hole in the balloon through which you can squeeze through, then you could crawl about the outside surface too and so DOUBLING your world of interaction space.

    The inner balloon becomes the universe with say smaller balloons within in galaxies, nebulae, starsystems, planets, continents,...,you.

    But you cant get out to the 'spiritual' universe outside.
    The thickness (there is none mathematically) or the skin of the balloon is Bigmo's Mirror which has two sides outside and inside.
    From here you get archetypes called 'God' outside looking in the outside mirror and sees himself as 'Antigod' or 'Satan'. So God=Satan, but one real relative to the outside as object (God) and the unreal image of that as 'Satan'.

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    Now after some ado, there is Adam and Eve (you) inside the universe doing the same thing the other way round.
    But relative to Adam and Eve (who also mirror each other) the back of the head of Satan becomes the unreal image and this is the archetype of the 'Devil'.
    The so called Devil is the Backside of Satan, both images for the real thing, God outside and Adam and Eve inside.

    The Devil looks at Adam and Eve and they think that its real - it's a phantom, because only the backside of Satan is become real, if somehow the satanic image of the outside, as the Face of God in the Bigmo mirror can become real.

    This is the case if before Adam and Eve went into the Balloon from the 'Unreal Heaven', they both also were a miniature version of the Bigmo Mirror or the balloon as a rubberskin say.
    So ADAMEVE is an unreal doublesided mirror between God and Satan.
    Then God images in the unreal Adam and Satan images in the unreal Eve, so giving Satan objectivity or realness.

    Thee Gnosis of the Rok​

    So technically the Universe becomes a Real Surface-Universe (termed a 4D-Riemann hypersphere defined as the boundary of a 5-dimensional spacetime universe - its a torus volume behaving like an area).
    Don't worry about that. You can get it without the maths.

    But this is the physics trick. Because the boundary is a surface encompassing a volume, the outside-inside (topology) thing of Bigmo's Balloon can in fact become rigorously modelled to be 'continuous'.
    Again I am saying this to indicate how one proves this, but this is not required to understand the archetype.

    This Thuban material is all about how to simplify the complicated science jargon into archetypes, everyone can understand after thinking a little bit about them.
    Ok then. You got a real God and a real image of God as the Real physical universe, with Satans face as God's face painted on the OUTSIDE of the Balloon.

    Outside the Universe is Satan--EveAdam--God as 1st creation in Genesis by God in Heaven or the Garden of Eden; with Satan getting real using unreal Eve and God getting real using unreal Adam as his mirror.
    The whole thing is funny really.
    Now God goes on holiday in the sabbatical and changes into Lord God and splits ADAMEVE into ADAM+EVE. Back to Back they still qualify as the One Mirror so as the unsexy 96 say.

    Inside the split becomes a sexy 69 in face to face so taking away the innocence in a physical way and now as Eve with her back to the Devil on the Wall faces Adam, who looks at Eve.

    Because Adam and Eve are two real beings within a real physical universe; this fake Devil face inverted can be gotten rid off.
    Adam and Eve have to become unsexy again to do this. Therefore the many sexist archetypes, the monks and nuns and celibacy and the virgins, leading the the abuse scenarios.

    Back to back as the 96=A MATHIMATIA=A I AM THAT I AM, this can be done, because then Adam and Eve (meaning ANY Man and Woman) both can MIRROR their images INSTEAD of each other face-to-face.
    This is how simple the ultimate archetypology of 1st order is. Primary school stuff. Draw pictures and you understand the creation.

    So Adam looks at the face of the Devil back to back with Eve, who looks at God as the image of the Real God should Satan outside 'get out of the way' so God could look into the Universe.
    God looking then directly sees Adam's Face and Eve will look directly into the face of the Goddess, namely the sexchanged Satan into SATANINA=IN A SATAN with Satan=55=Heaven=Sky=Barbelo=Cloud=Song=Judas=... in a alphanumeracy.
    As soon as Adam can get rid of the fake Devil face, just by confronting IT as his own false image; as soon the real Satan is redeemed from Bigmo's Balloon and 'turns about' as the true God runs around the balloon to the exact other pole in a poleshift to become the God looking at Adam who has simultaneously swapped position with Eve then looking directly at the sexchanged Satanina as the Queen of the archetyped Heaven.

    This is the redemption of God and his brother image Satan to become God and Goddess AS ARCHETYPES of the primordial 1st order.
    No ETs and Dragons and Dragon Slayers and whatever required.

    So the manifesto for this is required before the universe itself and any subsystems, like the planet earth can change, say in Gaia's ascension.

    Therefore repeating, standing back-to-back in the 96 symbol; Adam looks towards the right to discern the 'Face of God' as his own image.
    Adam sees the Back of Satan's Head and so cannot see but his own IMAGINED IMAGE.
    This Imagined Image becomes the Old Testament God Jehovah say, created by the Human Mind as God made in Man's Image. The face of this human created God is called the Devil as the backside of Satan.

    Eve looks towards the left to discern the 'Face of the Goddess'.
    But Eve sees nothing, but Her own Likeness as the True Face of the Goddess, and who does not exist as Satanina on the outside of Bigmo's Balloon.

    Now 'Be loveds', understand the reason as to WHY the Creator God in scriptures of all kinds *'has no wife'*.

    The Real God looks at his own face as Satan and does not LOVE himself as Satan, because the true God remembers his lost Sheness; now 'trapped' as *Eve's Image Inside* of Bigmo's Balloon as a UNCORRUPTED TRUE IMAGE or Reflection of the Goddess Herself as the Eve archetype carried by EVERY Woman who has a BODY able to be seen in A MIRROR=SPACETIME=SPIRIT=91.
    Then to safeguard the Goddess there MUST be apparent sexism in the archetype for otherwise. if Women were allowed 'to speak' in the capacity and authority of the godess, then EVE too would create a FAKE GODDESS as the 'missing wife' of God.
    This then is the reason as to WHY the maleness of Adam in the Image of God is the 'cursed' Image of the archetype, whilst Eve's archtype remaines LIBERATED from the beginning.

    This prevents TWO fake images to face each other archetypically and to trap BOTH Adam in the Man-Created Devil and Eve in some Woman-Created DevilWoman and as False Images of each other respectively.
    But WHEN Adam has 'worked out' and 'checkmated' his own false image, THEN a TRUE Image for Adam as the collective brotherhood for all Men will be say on the right or Northpole of Bigmo's Balloon and directly opposite a TRUE Image for Eve as the collective sisterhood for all Women and in God and Goddess respectively.

    Michelangelo's 'God's Creation of Adam' in the
    Sistine Chapel of Rome​

    So how then will Satan become Satanina?
    Should Adam discern *his own false Image God,* then in destroying the fakery, Adam is enabled to see himself, just like Eve sees herself *as a true image for the universe.*

    Archetypical Adam will then look at the backside of Satan and then in *SWAPPING POSITION with Eve;* will enforce Eve to look directly into the Eyes and Face of God in the 180 degree polarity shift of the true Satan SWAPPING or turning around to look at Eve and the true God 'running' around the outside of Bigmo's Balloon to then look at Adam as Adam's True Image.

    Be loveds this scenario in simple terms becomes the requirement for the New World WE envisage and imagine to manifest in physical reality.

    Because Adam and Eve are back to back they cannot Love One Another Sexually.
    The Work for God must precede their own satisfying explorations and adventures.

    But after Satanina, looking at Eve has manifested on the right pole of Bigmo's Balloon and God has manifested on the left pole looking at Adam; THEN can Adam and Eve turn around and 'Face each Other' in the Symbol of the Mother, the Crab of Cancer and the Full Moon.

    Then the Love between ANY Adam and any Eve will no longer SHUT OUT the Lovestarving true God in desire to MAKE LOVE in all ways to his Creation.

    Then God and Dog will look at each other Eye-to-Eye and relish in the 'Love-Making' of Adam and Eve in multiplicity and in manyness.

    This then becomes the 'Lovecult' of God and the Word of God and AS was physically implemented when OUR Beloved Jesus of Nazareth was amongst US in physical incarnation.

    And again, God looks into the Mirror (of Bigmo's Balloon) and sees his likeness - God. He calls his image Satan, because there is a difference in that the Right Hand of God becomes the Left Hand of Satan=AntiGod.

    Then God does not like what he sees. He doesn't want duality of Rightness of himself as Real and the Leftness of Satan as UNREAL (as an image of reality).

    Now this is rather deep; so one must ponder this thorougly.
    The reason for God NOT wanting the duality (in heaven) is that God wants to be Satan to be REAL as well.

    This God is so utterly DIVINE, for need of a better word, (this cannot be said in words); that he wishes his own Unreal Image to BE like him, say as a playmate.

    So God wants to 'play with himself', so the absolute brilliance and ingenuity of his plan (by the Serpent Logos) constructs the Real-Unreal dichotomy in heaven as creating a Mirror between him as Real God and his image as Unreal Satan.
    This mirror then is ADAMEVE with the logicistical sentence construct looking like: SATAN---EVEADAM---GOD.

    So the genius of God is to MAKE Satan Real AS the Unreal Image of EVE and God becoming Real as the Unreal Image of Adam.

    Once you really 'get this' you will forever understand the Nature of God and KNOW what LOVE is in Emotional Terms AND in Intellectual Scientific terms.

    So now there exists Bigmo's Balloon with Satan's Face on it as a REAL SATAN and facing a DOUBLEMIRROR of two sides called EVEADAM faced by the REAL GOD.

    Separating ADAMEVE into ADAM+EVE so renders the scenario of the heavenly archetypes of a Real Satan looking at an Unreal Eve and a Real God looking at an Unreal Adam.
    The UNREALITY of Bigmo's Mirror so has become TRANSFERRED into the UNREALITY of BOTH ADAM relative to God and EVE relative to SATAN.

    So what does this mean in practical terms?
    It means that Bigmo's Balloon CAN BE REALISED IN THE REALITY OF SATAN.

    The REALITY of Bigmo's Balloon as the original LOST SHENESS of the Prime Creator God has become REAL.

    A REAL PHYSICAL UNIVERSE NOW EXISTS and WAS BORN FROM PURE ABSTRACT ARCHETYPES, which now allow SPIRIT to also become REAL from abstraction, metaphor and metaphysics.

    This then allows physical modelling in labels such as Quantum Big Bang.

    SATAN can now become the Queen from Heaven as SATANINA because the sexchange operation IF ADAM+EVE are FORCED TO BECOME REAL ALSO.

    Remember the beginning.
    The One GoddoG Creator-Creation split into two and so the Sheness was lost as Bigmo's Balloon.

    So Satan became God's lost Sheness; BUT as a MALE IMAGE of God.
    To change the Maleness of Satan into a Femaleness is the MASTERPLAN of all of creation.

    {SATANINA=IN A SATAN is EVE as the archetyped Rib out of Adam in 1st Order archetype as the QUEEN OF HEAVEN} TRANSFORMS to {SERPENTINA=IN A SERPENT as the NEW GAIA, the NEW archetyped QUEEN OF EARTH} and as the 2nd Order archetype of the NEW JERUSALEM.

    ADAM+EVE, both as Unreal Images could RESCUE SATAN's Unrealness and so made SATAN the FULL BROTHER OF GOD.

    The BROTHERLY LOVE between God and Satan did not fulfil God's masterplan and so both ADAM and EVE were MADE REAL ALSO in 'Falling' into Bigmo's Balloon.

    This then is the archetype of the DEVIL/DRAGON devouring the Souls of Mankind.

    But now ADAM and EVE are real inside the Universe of the original Sheness of God as the DOG, but in heaven you have a REAL SATANIC UNIVERSE as the OUTSIDE of Bigmo's Balloon and a REAL GOD.

    The next step is to retain the SHENESS of the Inside of the Universe, but to CHANGE its Outside HENESS.

    Deeper thought allows you to realise straight away then WHY Satan is called the 'Prince of this World' by Jesus. Bigmo's Balloo has his face on it on the outside and the Devil's antiface on it on the inside.

    Then BECAUSE Satan is made REAL in Heaven, the DEVIL has to be made a FAKE REALITY inside Bigmo's Balloon i.e. inside the universe.

    Then in Revelation.12; the DEVIL is cast out from heaven onto the earth because the TRUTH of the LOGOS was born in heaven.

    Here is big paradox conveniently overlooked by the theologians and scripture critics.

    WHY, if Jesus has ascended in his resurrection as a grown Man to sit at the RIGHT Side of the Father in Heaven until the earth has been made his footstool and until the kingdom has been delivered up to him' - MUST JESUS become a BABYBOY again being BORN by the Queen of Heaven in Revelation.12?

    The casting out of the Devil onto the earth puts 'the mark of the beast' into everyone just AS the false images of Adam and Eve.

    This manifests and FIXES the timeline for the prophecied Second Coming of course and that is why the Fall of the Devil as a RED DRAGON is harmonized in Heaven by the rebirth of Jesus on the LEFT Side of the Father.

    It is now easy to know, that the Right Side where the Man Jesus was sitting is the Outside of Bigmo's Balloon and the Left Side is the Inside of Bigmo's Balloon and where the Dragon-Jesus-Baby is born as a CYAN- or BLUE DRAGON to neutralise and harmonize the Red Dragon at the completion of the timeline.

    Perhaps now some readers will understand why Jesus of Nazareth IS the MASTERDRAGON and the Master Templar of Thuban.
    HeShe must be a SKYBLUE DRAGON (remember the Hopi prophecies of the Blue Star Kachina) to, through and by hisher second coming from the Oneness into the Manyness BLEND with the RED DRAGON to become the ENTWINED SERPENTROD of Moses, the Double Helix of the Genomes and the HEALING SYMBOL of the Medicines.

    This nexus point of the Baby Jesus as the Skyblue Dragonstar Kachina in simultaneous descent of the Red Dragonstar Thuban so places the Old Earth Gaia under quarantine from June 25th, 2008.

    Then the Adams and Eves upon the Old Gaia are ALL MARKED in the forehead of the Human Mind by the descent of the Red Dragon of Thuban BUT ALL are also simultaneously SEALED in the forehead as ONE of the 144,000 in the descent of the Blue Star Kachina by nature of their birthrights as one of the starsigns aka one of the tribes of Jacob/Israel.

    A fake Devil is let loose in the human minds, but is contrasted by the Sealing from Kachina.

    So the Armageddon becomes a personal affair and a spiritual war in the foreheads of ALL Humans.

    The coming down of the Devil is the RELEASE of the Devil, from now on FIGHTING for his nonexistent life in EVERY INDIVIDUAL's Head.

    Decoder Michael


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    This Family of the Elders of Thuban is a testimony of remembrance of the purpose and reason for the human genome to exist as a race of cocreators within a greater order of the Cosmos, often termed the World Logos in the Source-Energy of ABBA as the Love of the Words of Creation BAAB.

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    This website here is predominantly an archive for otherwise inaccessible data and information and was created to allow any visitor, upon analysing and considering the information here found, to attain a level of discernment regarding the gigantic amount of partial data and misinformation found on the worldwide web of information sharing in this period of data overload.

    This site is about first principles and causes - the beginnings of things and especially a genesis in terms of theoretical physics, cosmology and the creation of spacetimematter in the Planck-Boson or Planck-Nugget in superstring transformations. This not only caused the thermodynamic Black-Body-Radiator universe of the relativities to manifest in energy, but also allowed a form of angular acceleration or 'space-awareness' to birth the universal and ubiquitous consciousness itself.

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    False Translations

    "What the misinterpretations and misunderstandings of the 'encoded scriptures' have lead to."

    From April 1st, 2012 and then from December 21st, 2012 and then from December 16th, 2013 and then from May 1st, 2014; the historically abused and misused 'Word of God' and in all of their misguided interpretations shall have passed its 'use by' dates.
    This begins with the discarding of puerile 'modern translations' of the 'bibles', such as the following utility of a 'New "Evangelistic" International Version' in the use of source-code.


    15 Ways the Bible Is Used by Christians and the GOP to Control and Malign Women

    Fundamentalist religion of all stripes has degradation of women at its core, and fundamentalist Christianity is no exception.

    March 8, 2012 |

    Why can’t GOP politicians trumpet their religious credentials without assaulting women?

    Because fundamentalist religion of all stripes has degradation of women at its core, and fundamentalist Christianity is no exception. Progressive Christians believe the Bible is a human document, a record of humanity’s multi-millennial struggle to understand what is good and what is God and how to live in moral community with each other. But fundamentalists believe the Bible is the literally perfect word of the Almighty, essentially dictated by God to the writers. To believe that the Bible is the literally perfect word of God is to believe that women are tainted seductresses who must be controlled by men.

    Listen to early church father Tertullian: “You [woman] are the devil’s gateway: you are the unsealer of that (forbidden) tree: you are the first deserter of the divine law: you are she who persuaded him whom the devil was not valiant enough to attack. You destroyed so easily God’s image, man. On account of your desert—that is, death—even the Son of God had to die.”

    Or take it from reformer John Calvin: “Woman is more guilty than man, because she was seduced by Satan, and so diverted her husband from obedience to God that she was an instrument of death leading to all perdition. It is necessary that woman recognize this, and that she learn to what she is subjected; and not only against her husband. This is reason enough why today she is placed below and that she bears within her ignominy and shame.”

    Both Tertullian, a respected Catholic theologian, and Calvin, a leader of the Protestant Reformation, took their cues on this matter straight from the book of Genesis:

    To the woman [God] said, I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you. -Genesis 3:16

    No matter how outrageous Santorum and Gingrich may seem to secularists and moderate people of faith, they are right on target for an intended audience of Bible believing fundamentalists. If you have any doubt, check out these 15 Bible passages.*

    1. A wife is a man’s property: You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Exodus 20:17

    2. Daughters can be bought and sold: If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. Exodus 21:7

    3. A raped daughter can be sold to her rapist: If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. Deuteronomy 22:28-29

    4. Collecting wives and sex slaves is a sign of status: He [Solomon] had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray. 1 Kings 11:3

    5. Used brides deserve death: If, however the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. Deuteronomy 22:20-21.

    6. Women, but only virgins, are to be taken as spoils of war: Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.Numbers 31:17-18

    7. Menstruating women are spiritually unclean: When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. Anyone who touches her bed will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. Anyone who touches anything she sits on will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water....

    ...The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the Lord for the uncleanness of her discharge. You must keep the Israelites separate from things that make them unclean, so they will not die in their uncleanness for defiling my dwelling place, which is among them. Leviticus 15: 19-31

    8. A woman is twice as unclean after giving birth to a girl as to a boy: A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over.

    If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding.

    When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. Leviticus 12: 1-8

    9. A woman’s promise is binding only if her father or husband agrees: When a man makes a vow to the Lord or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said. When a young woman still living in her father’s household makes a vow to the Lord or obligates herself by a pledge and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand.

    But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the Lord will release her because her father has forbidden her....

    ...A woman’s vow is meaningless unless approved by her husband or father. But if her husband nullifies them when he hears about them, then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. Her husband has nullified them, and the Lord will release her. Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself. Numbers 30:1-16

    10. Women should be seen and not heard: Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 1 Corinthians 14:34

    11. Wives should submit to their husband’s instructions and desires: Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Colossians 3:18

    12. In case you missed that submission thing...: Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Ephesians 5:22-24.

    13. More submission – and childbearing as a form of atonement: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. 1 Timothy 2: 11-15

    14. Women were created for men: For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.1 Corinthians 11:2-10

    15. Sleeping with women is dirty: No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as first-fruits to God and the Lamb. Revelation 14:3-4

    This list is just a sampling of the Bible verses that either instruct or illustrate proper relationships between men and women. In context, they often are mixed among passages that teach proper relationships with children, slaves and foreigners. The Bible doesn’t forbid either contraception or abortion, but it is easy to see why Bible-believing fundamentalists might have negative feelings about both.

    As futurist Sara Robinson has pointed out, traditional rules that govern male-female relationships are grounded more in property rights than civil rights. Men essentially have ownership of women, whose lives are scripted to serve an end—bearing offspring. It was very important to men that they know whose progeny they were raising, so sexual morality focused primarily on controlling women’s sex activity and maintaining their “purity” and value as assets. Traditional gender roles and rules evolved on the presumption that women don’t have control over their fertility. In other words, modern contraception radically changed a social compact that had existed for literally thousands of years.

    Some people don’t welcome change. Since the beginnings of the 20th century, fundamentalist Christians have been engaged in what they see as spiritual warfare against secularists and modernist Christians. Both of their foes have embraced discoveries in fields as diverse as linguistics, archeology, psychology, biology and physics -- all of which call into question the heart of conservative religion and culture. Biblical scholars now challenge such “fundamentals” as a historical Adam, the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection and the special status that Abraham’s God gave to straight males.

    Fundamentalists are fighting desperately to hang on to certainties and privileges they once saw as an Abrahamic birthright. If they can’t keep women in line, it’s all over. The future ends up in the hands of cultural creatives, scientists, artists, inquiring minds, and girls. It’s horrifying.

    *All verses are quoted from the New International Version of the Bible, a favorite of evangelicals.

    Valerie Tarico is a psychologist and writer in Seattle, Washington and the founder ofWisdom Commons. She is the author of "Trusting Doubt: A Former Evangelical Looks at Old Beliefs in a New Light" and "Deas and Other Imaginings." Her articles can be found at Awaypoint.Wordpress.com.
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    admin Well-Known Member Staff Member


     seerseeker@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Kyva Holman (kyholm7@aol.com)
    Sent:Wednesday, 4 April 2012 6:44:16 AM
    not sure how useful it is to argue that Jesus might have been a hermaphrodite. He "might" have been almost anything, including a complete fabrication (i.e. reiteration of Horus from Egyptian mythology, etc.). I mean... speculating about our Lord and Savior's equipage? Is there any Biblical cause to throw that into question, or is this as random as it seems? If he was hermaphroditic, what would that mean? What would it prove? We know He was full of boundless loving compassion and nurturance, which already puts him in a category we postmoderns would more or less tag "feminine." But the point about God being a "girl" (not my word!) is something else entirely. If my understanding is correct, what we can piece together from prehistory is that the original deities were mostly if not all female. There's an internal logic to this... giver of life, carrier of humans and whatnot. Unwashed, snarling male gods from Aryans and other tribes - half eaten ostrich legs and severed heads dropping everywhere - came smashing out of the sky, banishing the reigning throne to the kitchen. Some believe 2012 will see the Return of the Goddess. Definitely keeping an eye out for that (lol). Long as we're talking about everybody's personal biases, either confessed or couched in scientific objectivity, the idea of God being female... ummm... let's say it 'sits very well' with me ~

    All Praise Her! *mmmmmm*

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Laurie Corzett <libramoon42@mindspring.com>
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    Subject: [seerseeker] who knows whether God is a girl?


    Bettany Hughes: who knows whether God is a girl?

    The role of women in the early days of Christianity has been “suppressed”, according to a leading historian who has questioned the traditional depiction of God as a man.

    By Anita Singh

    Bettany Hughes, an expert in ancient history, claimed that Christianity “was originally a faith where the female of the species held sway”.
    To oppose the ordination of women bishops in the Church of England is to deny the central role women played in the foundations of the faith, said Hughes.
    “By suppressing the true story of the connection between women and religion, we etiolate both history and the possibilities of our own world,” she wrote in Radio Times.
    “Consider this: throughout the history of humanity, 97 per cent of all deities of wisdom have been female.
    “Who knows whether God is a girl, but mankind has turned to the female of the species for good ideas. Our own monotheistic institutions might do well to take a leaf out of the book of human experience and build on this consensus when it comes to reaping the benefits of a close relationship between women and the divine.”
    Hughes is the presenter of a forthcoming BBC Two series, Divine Women, which explores the hidden history of women in world religions and challenges the belief that women should not be priests.
    She said: “This Easter will be the last when I go to a church knowing it will be dominated by men. I love my (male) vicar, who has spent 45 years encouraging his flock to be clear-sighted about the world - past, present and sublime.

    “But the paradoxical thing for me as a historian is that I’m keenly aware Christianity was originally a faith where the female of the species held sway.”
    As evidence for her argument she cited the fact that, in the first 200 years of Christianity, over half of all churches in Rome were built by women. It was a woman, Phoebe, who was invited by Paul to take the word of God to Rome, Hughes said.
    According to Hughes, the Church of England’s turmoil over the ordination of women bishops has been played out before.
    Women presided as deaconesses, priestesses and bishops in the early centuries AD, she said, quoting contemporaneous “rants” by the French Synod attacking the “unacceptable and shameful” decision to allow women to officiate in church.

    Referring to the current make-up of the church, Hughes said: “At least 65 per cent of all those who go to Anglican churches are women; the handmaids of Christ are no longer just arranging flowers on the altar, they are - as they were at Christianity’s beginning - it’s very lifeblood.”
    Hughes, whose biographical subjects include Helen of Troy and Socrates, predicted that Islam will also grow to acknowledge the influence of early female scholars.
    She said: “As more girls in Muslim countries get the education their role models prescribed, they will surely be inspired to follow suit.”
    Last month a feminist theologian offered a radical take on gender roles in Christianity when she argued that Jesus could have been a hermaphrodite.
    Dr Susannah Cornwall of Manchester University published an academic paper in which she said: “It is not possible to assert with any degree of certainty that Jesus was male as we now define maleness.
    “There is no way of knowing for sure that Jesus did not have one of the intersex conditions which would give him a body which appeared externally to be unremarkably male, but which might nonetheless have had some ‘hidden’ female physical features.”

    The fact Jesus had no children made his gender status “even more uncertain”, she added.

    © Copyright of Telegraph Media Group Limited 2012

    The 'Seven Disasters', said to be encoded in crop circles, have already occurred! But much of this is supported by Thuban. The last 10 minutes describe the 'pregnancy' rather well - 25-27 minute timemarker (new bodies and the cosmic uterus and the Mother's Baby from 28-30).

    [2:59:02 PM-April 4th, 2012] Tonyblue: Yes
    [2:59:13 PM] Tonyblue: Some good points in the DM video
    [2:59:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i will watch it
    [2:59:33 PM] Tonyblue: You will see what he is 'channeling' here
    [2:59:50 PM] Tonyblue: Still mistranslations NABS
    [3:00:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: yeah, but i like drunvalo
    [3:00:03 PM] Tonyblue: I dont know how serious this Russian science is either
    [3:00:14 PM] Tonyblue: Yes he is heart centred
    [3:00:31 PM] Tonyblue: He is right with the basics
    [3:00:48 PM] Tonyblue: Can you share this on main please, the link to heaven?
    [3:00:53 PM] Ishtara Raven: sure
    [3:01:01 PM] Tonyblue: Thanks I dont wanna talk there
    [3:01:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: i shared it on main and core
    [3:02:04 PM] Tonyblue: Gracias yes as said
    [3:02:14 PM] Tonyblue: IF I have to share something i'll do it here
    [3:02:32 PM] Tonyblue: I wish to be 'gone' relative to all the other forums
    [3:02:38 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i understand
    [3:02:51 PM] Tonyblue: No more 'guru' or manipulator
    [3:03:08 PM] Tonyblue: Same on mists
    [3:03:09 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh tony, you were never this
    [3:03:16 PM] Tonyblue: Many took me as such
    [3:03:21 PM] Ishtara Raven: stupid blind people
    [3:03:34 PM] Tonyblue: They have a thread there now: why are things so quiet lol
    [3:03:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i saw that today
    [3:03:44 PM] Ishtara Raven: laughed
    [3:03:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: they have no clue
    [3:03:54 PM] Tonyblue: Yes phaseshift left as did I
    [3:04:06 PM] Ishtara Raven: siriarc left yes
    [3:04:13 PM] Ishtara Raven: he was sick of their blindness too
    [3:04:35 PM] Tonyblue: Siriarc yes phaseshift
    [3:05:21 PM] Tonyblue: Noone to stir lol
    [3:05:26 PM] Tonyblue: I won't be there
    [3:05:34 PM] Ishtara Raven: lol yeah i saw
    [3:05:55 PM] Tonyblue: Can she come one day and say: " I am a dragon?"
    [3:05:55 PM] Ishtara Raven: i noticed oxy has lost computer access
    [3:06:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: he seems holed up in his cave waiting for the worst
    [3:06:17 PM] Tonyblue: Right
    [3:06:42 PM] Tonyblue: I added the LENT on cosmosdawn and heaven
    [3:06:52 PM] Tonyblue: But this should be it
    [3:07:05 PM] Tonyblue: Because recall those flood of the inland seas?
    [3:07:15 PM] Tonyblue: This was AshWednesday
    [3:07:24 PM] Tonyblue: 40 days precisely to TODAY
    [3:07:34 PM] Tonyblue: So more synchro
    [3:07:43 PM] Tonyblue: Februay 29th
    [3:07:56 PM] Ishtara Raven: yeah
    [3:08:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: it does not make sense
    [3:08:49 PM] Tonyblue: Inala was all about cosmic motherhood
    [3:09:07 PM] Tonyblue: Looney tunes but is this a divine madness?
    [3:10:29 PM] Tonyblue: So Isolation and Desolation EXTERNALISED see
    [3:10:33 PM] Tonyblue: As written
    [3:10:40 PM] Ishtara Raven: omg your right
    [3:10:53 PM] Tonyblue: I am and was the male whore too so my suffering fulfilled the INTERNAL codes
    [3:11:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: and you still suffer
    [3:11:34 PM] Tonyblue: Hmm I will talk on Core Extension to fates and who is there
    [3:11:46 PM] Tonyblue: But not often
    [3:11:53 PM] Tonyblue: I will try to stay away
    [3:12:11 PM] Tonyblue: Leave BH for Xeia and You and Me the YYY
    [3:12:23 PM] Tonyblue: Share on core
    [3:12:30 PM] Tonyblue: And also on extension
    [3:12:34 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
    [3:12:49 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes we can talk there
    [3:13:00 PM] Tonyblue: Not like this as here
    [3:13:14 PM] Ishtara Raven: no
    [3:13:16 PM] Tonyblue: I am through with 'inner data' sharing
    [3:13:23 PM] Ishtara Raven: i agree
    [3:13:29 PM] Tonyblue: Only generalities on extension
    [3:14:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes talk about the film with him tony
    [3:14:41 PM] Tonyblue: Yes tell him that I wont talk much anymore
    [3:14:51 PM] Tonyblue: What film?
    [3:15:12 PM] Ishtara Raven: the link to the drunvalo film
    [3:15:30 PM] Tonyblue: Nothing to say dear
    [3:15:44 PM] Tonyblue: Watch it at those markers I said it
    [3:15:58 PM] Tonyblue: TLTR is no longer an excuse
    [3:16:02 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i will go watch it now
    [3:16:18 PM] Tonyblue: We have given data for 2 years now its all available for the looking
    [3:16:28 PM] Tonyblue: I meant generally Raven
    [3:16:29 PM] Ishtara Raven: exactly
    [3:16:30 PM] Tonyblue: Not you
    [3:16:43 PM] Tonyblue: I know your loyalty and honour
    [3:16:51 PM] Ishtara Raven: oh i thought you wanted me to watch it now sweety
    [3:16:57 PM] Tonyblue: Why I am still on skype
    [3:17:08 PM] Tonyblue: Nono
    [3:17:37 PM] Tonyblue: I would probably stop this altogether were it not for you and Xeia and Rok
    [3:18:04 PM] Tonyblue: I simply have no more to give now
    [3:18:11 PM] Ishtara Raven: well thank you Tony, no i knew you were not referring to me when you said TLTR is not an excuse ...that would be funny
    [3:18:19 PM] Tonyblue: Of course
    [3:18:28 PM] Tonyblue: You are like an adjutant
    [3:18:37 PM] Tonyblue: A scribe to the scribe of the Logos
    [3:19:08 PM] Tonyblue: Now INDEPENDENT to do your own journey
    [3:19:32 PM] Ishtara Raven: i hope you don't disappear all together Tony, I enjoy our talks and I know Xeia does too
    [3:19:54 PM] Tonyblue: The only DEPENDENCY left now in the cosmic scheme is the Core Loyalty
    [3:20:11 PM] Tonyblue: And both you and Xeia still have one imo
    [3:20:16 PM] Tonyblue: Mine is MI now
    [3:20:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: and our friendship goes beyond aquaintance you know, you are my family now and i know Xeia feels the same
    [3:20:28 PM] Tonyblue: No other dependencies
    [3:20:49 PM] Tonyblue: Yes this is what 44 rejects see Core dependency
    [3:20:54 PM] Ishtara Raven: pffft we don't think of you as a dependency and i sure hope you dont think of us like that hon
    [3:21:02 PM] Tonyblue: IF her core now is IM then all will work out
    [3:21:23 PM] Tonyblue: As you see this is up to JCCJ
    [3:21:55 PM] Tonyblue: As soon as MM touches Jesus TODAY they Become the Cosmic TwinLogos template for all
    [3:22:10 PM] Tonyblue: And this is fact
    [3:22:29 PM] Tonyblue: He has to see the guys first according to the scripts
    [3:22:41 PM] Tonyblue: He sends MM to prepare remember?
    [3:22:46 PM] Ishtara Raven: Yes well i dont know what will happen to her Tony, but like you said, if ABBA and MI have chosen her as the vessel i do know it will happen according to their will and not mine or yours.
    [3:22:58 PM] Tonyblue: Yes
    [3:23:28 PM] Tonyblue: I still love her and so I shall not deny this love. But if anything comes from it I dont know anymore
    [3:24:18 PM] Tonyblue: But I can live on my own now with the wavey MI
    [3:24:19 PM] Ishtara Raven: whatever happens i pray that 44 will be ok, i really do not wish for her to be lonely like this forever, i see in her heart of hearts and i see the love she has to share
    [3:24:34 PM] Tonyblue: Will there be a body MI I dont know either.
    [3:25:18 PM] Tonyblue: She will encounter her 'freedom' as a 'wild card'
    [3:25:51 PM] Ishtara Raven: indeed
    [3:25:55 PM] Tonyblue: Will she fade or become emphasised? I dont know in my mindbody
    [3:33:51 PM] Ishtara Raven: well one thing i do know is that we are all pregnant with our cores, and that includes you...if it is 44 then it will be her, or someone else will be shown and made known to you, this i don't doubt.
    [3:34:07 PM] Tonyblue: Yes we are all pregnant
    [3:34:24 PM] Tonyblue: And this this video brings out in a convoluted NABS style
    [3:35:10 PM] Tonyblue: Share my comments if you like if you don t wish to elaborate
    [3:35:34 PM] Tonyblue: DM says the femmes will be the males and such stuff
    [3:35:52 PM] Tonyblue: He sees the archetypes but then through his NABS filters
    [3:36:04 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes
    [3:36:22 PM] Tonyblue: So you can see why I shared this video
    [3:36:35 PM] Ishtara Raven: well i have not watched it yet, but yes
    [3:36:39 PM] Tonyblue: Take the NABS off and you have SOME essences of the secrets of the GOT
    [3:39:37 PM] Ishtara Raven: watching it now
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    Dear Tony,
    I wasn't sure what to expect would "happen" to me on April 1st.
    On one level, I certainly desired a definitive, overt & powerful "experience" of some sort - perhaps in the "nearly overwhelming" category.
    But then, at one point, I saw this influx as an extremely subtle informational cloud and/or wind taking place on a very refined level above and beyond what might register in one's normal ambit of experience. It is subtle because it is from the realms of the real and it's effectual outworking over time is what matters.
    In addition, I have felt some internal perceptual changes - but, then again, I've been going through so many changes lately, it is nearly a continuum.
    So, now it is April 2nd. Naturally, on some occasions during the last few days, I had to question myself regarding my attraction to and belief in the Thuban Material. Yet, in all honesty, I continue to be reminded of this: that no where else have I discovered so beautiful, elegant, comprehensive, and meaningful an explanation of the whys and wherefores of life. Nothing so satisfying, as cognitatively nutritional.
    So, I continue to look forward to both the gradual unfolding and the sudden refolding.



    Gracias Blake!
    Yes the April 1st, date was a nexus point of 'Cosmic Conception'. Compare the impregnantion of a mother to be. She will not know, that she is pregnant and physical changes too take some time to manifest until a expectant birth occurs so 9 months later.
    April 1st-April 8th, 2012 manifested a New Cosmic Legislature; say like a new manuscript being composed and forwarded to the printers. So the 'New Book' exists known only to the few and remains 'hidden' or 'unpublished' to the many.
    December 21st, 2012 will be similar, opening new avenues for the 'Old World' to transform into a 'New World'.
    But then this 'birth' will allow a new physics to manifest in the unfoldment of a 4th spacial dimension. This is called Hyperspacetime.
    As you have realised and experienced, the changes in the cosmic matrix are subtle and as yer unseen in a 3D spacial matrix configuration. It is this matrix, which will be reconfigured December 2012 and this on the quantum level.
    This means new phenomena will from then on become possible in say a more repeatable scientific mode of observation and be no longer restricted to so called 'paranormal phenomena'.
    Many external manifestations like natural disasters and so on expected for 2012, will simply not be required, should a new reconfigured spacetime matrix accomodate the physical changes from its quantum definitions and its metaphysical precursors.
    So allow me to emphasise again. The December 21st, 2012 nexus of the Birth of that which has been conceived on April 1st, 2012 defines a Starting Point and the beginning of a new age for the entire universe and not just some starsystem harbouring an isolated human occupied planet.
    Nevertheless, this 'old planet of the humanoids' will metamorphose AT ITS centre to allow its previous nature as a data receiver to become that of a data and information transmitter.
    All or any physical changes in the 3D macrostate are peripheral and supplementary to this; but considering the dire state of the group- and planetary consciousness of planet earth; would certainly indicate the requirement of 'Contact' and a more visible change of the old science into a new science from that date onwards.
    The potentials will exist from December 21st, 2012; just as the Potential for this potential to manifest became integrated in the old spacetime matrix as a new spacetime metric on April 1st, 2012.
    This link, alo in this thread; adds to my reply.


    Thank you Blake for your contribution.


    7. The Homecoming of the LOVING WAY! (July 1987)
    I got interested in everything to do with the "New Age of Aquarius".
    So many people believed in the "space brothers" and UFO's and governmental cover ups and the necessity to reconnect with mother nature.
    The environment had even become a political issue but politics and finance and such things did not interest me at all. Dead works and dead debates and superficial power is what I always thought of them.

    Sure sometimes a good one comes along. A man with vision, maybe a little unconventianal, but honest. So it should be nobodys business who this person might sleep with or what this person does privately. But this world of sanity and realism and rationality is obsessed with person's private sexlifes and what "nasty" things they might have done in their younger days. Just ask JFK and MLK and Mahatma Gandhi.
    Let us presume such a person comes along. He will not last long. A quick bullet and the reestablishment of the predictable status quo. Everything in order. Dumb brainwashed "masses " with the daily portions of soap, sensationalist news and the constant bombardment of violence and some more guns and laws and stockmarkets.
    And just who is in bed with whom and who is suing whom for defamation of character. But the world is rational and truly in the nationalistic way. Our forefathers did it by hard work and our fathers, so it must be alright for junior.

    And God blesses the rich and abundance to the ones who have, because the poor have only themselves to blame. They do not believe in Jesus enough. If they would ask him for work and money he would provide and he who has shall have more and the ones who have not, yes of them shall be taken what they have and given to the haves.
    This is the way of the world and the nature of the God and his Jesus, the son of God which will come on top of clouds and with millions of harp playing angels to reward the faithful churchgoers and to hold everybodys hand.

    Jesus will fix everything up and he will damn all the poor unbelievers. He will destroy all the soothsayers and the witches and the psychics and the astrologers. Jesus will hold everybody's hand and the dead will come out of the graves and have miraculously reformed bones and flesh and sinews. Then old Julius Caesar for one will stand in front of dear old God and plead his good and bad works.

    And Adolf Hitlers body will be reassembled and there he is; stepping from one toe onto the other before the wrathfulness of Jehovah, the father of LOVE?
    Well you can twist things as you like, but things will not be like that.

    The soothsayers and the witches are the psychiatrists and some psychologists or should one say their institutions; which try to explain things in ways which can only be explained by scientific spirituality and things like awareness and perception and relative consciousness. But they refer to the scientific method and drugs and ?
    Nowhere is it said that the second coming of the LOVER will be ON clouds. It is IN clouds and this is a very big difference. The "vessels of mercy" are like clouds and many many references are in all the holy books about the true nature of those things. Try to dissolve some clouds with Your mind in sending energy into it.
    It works and is a good exercise for Your will power.

    So I had never seen any spaceships in the sky but the overwhelming eyewitness reports convinced me of their existence. But what were they? And where did they come from? Extraterrestrial planets, galaxies or from under the water or from inside the Earth or were they cover up operations of a secretive technology produced by under cover scientists?

    I had to find out for myself and my LOVE had always answered all my questions.
    I had asked and I had received. I had desired knowledge and it had been given to me.
    So one night I dreamt about what it all meant, relative to me.
    I expected saucers, but I did not get any. I expected aliens, but there were none.
    There I was running in the meadows and I was naked. Strange I thought, noone is around and I am in this vast green meadow, full of flowers and there was this erotic overtone, due to my nakedness.

    I looked up into the sky and there were many humunguous clouds and they were dark clouds; just like a big thunderstorm was brewing ready to erupt upon an unsuspecting starhuman world.
    Suddenly the clouds seemed to contract and expand to produce a sort of flux and movement. Then I saw it and my inner being rejoiced like it never ever had felt before.
    My whole inner being wanted to jump out of my body when it saw this gigantic and elaborate construction up in the sky.

    There it was - MY HOME, MY OWN PLACE from where I had come and to which one day I would return.
    There was absolutely no doubt about it. I KNEW and KNEW and KNEW. I was longing
    and crying: "I want to go home. What am I doing down here. I do not belong here?", and yet I knew that I did belong here AND there and that somehow I had the power to make this joyfulness of belonging real for everyone.
    What was it? It was like a city in the sky, but it was also a gigantic spaceship.
    The mother of all mother spaceships - the NEW JERUSALEM.
    It was TRUTH and LOVE and the FUTURE.

    There were constructions and lights sticking out everwhere. If it would land, then it would be like a country in itself, SO big was it. It was in the process of becoming real, but something, a small essence was missing and when this little bit of nothingness would become reunited with the Holy City, then EVERYBODY would be able to see this thing with physical eyes and ALL would believe this enormous LOVING and the KINDNESS of COMPASSION of the LOVING WAY.

    There were a lot of other vessels, smaller ones, motherships. I stood there gazing at the scenario when I understood my nakedness. I had come from there without anything and I would return with nothing except my KNOWING - that would be it.
    I really LOVED those spaceships and I knew that they were real and true in all their ways; which persons had experienced. There were all kinds and all had their purpose to become evident at the appropriate times.

    The physical ONES were sort of computerized, knowing things because of their L-factors and most were VERY benevolent and ALL the nonmaterial ONES were LOVING.

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    admin Well-Known Member Staff Member

    - Posted Apr 10th 2012

    Shared by Zaina and Raven - Gracias Madmoiselles!

    [3:20:49 PM---April 10th, 2012 - +10UCT] Ishtara Raven: Hey Tony
    [3:21:53 PM] Ishtara Raven: what is the reason you put up the skeptic message with the video? I guess I don't see what your trying to say by adding that as a comment.
    [3:22:34 PM] Tonyblue: Read it and you'll see
    [3:23:24 PM] Ishtara Raven: well i got alot of it read and still didn't get it, haven't finished because its pretty long
    [3:24:10 PM] Tonyblue: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=147A63E1-BA03-4A9E-A960-D1C5D24D3892
    [3:24:18 PM] Tonyblue: I edited
    [3:24:59 PM] Ishtara Raven: ok i see, the author of this is a personal friend of hers
    [3:25:47 PM] Tonyblue: No this is a 'reformed skeptic' yet still a sceptic like me
    [3:26:15 PM] Tonyblue: Its an excellent article
    [3:26:30 PM] Tonyblue: His ref to ANITA IS IN GREEN
    [3:26:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i see that, i just couldnt see the relation until i got passed the huge amount of medical data
    [3:26:52 PM] Tonyblue: lol
    [3:27:51 PM] Ishtara Raven: well i only asked you because I thought perhaps you didn't like the video and i was panicing a little i guess.
    [3:28:06 PM] Tonyblue: No no Anita is the real thing
    [3:28:26 PM] Tonyblue: I liked it so much I looked for a piece to publisize
    [3:28:30 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes i thought so too, i felt her experience was very real
    [3:28:35 PM] Tonyblue: Of course
    [3:28:45 PM] Ishtara Raven: Zaina found this
    [3:28:54 PM] Ishtara Raven: and i saw it on her FB and watched it
    [3:29:08 PM] Tonyblue: I will thank you 2 then
    [3:29:21 PM] Ishtara Raven: and felt it was incredibly appropriate for our situation and Fates questions on death
    [3:29:58 PM] Ishtara Raven: i especially liked what she said about how incredible it was to become aware of her own magnificance
    [3:30:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: this is it to me
    [3:30:20 PM] Ishtara Raven: divine ego vs BS Fake i am better then thou
    [3:30:42 PM] Ishtara Raven: she experienced the encompassment
    [3:30:52 PM] Ishtara Raven: KNEW it
    [3:31:00 PM] Ishtara Raven: and came back to share it with the rest of us
    [3:32:10 PM] Ishtara Raven: she went to a place where she was able to strip herself from all the vanity and social conditioning of the world and just BE herself, no pressure, just all encompassing love and acceptance
    Sunday, 17 April 2011


    Sometimes when I reflect on the list of things that now comprise my belief system – afterlife, reincarnation, alternative medicine, psychic powers – compared to just a couple of years ago, it can momentarily cause a sense of disquiet in me. Am I starting to go soft in the head? What will I start believing in next? Pixies and fairies? Maybe my age related dwindling of neurons has caused me to lose it a bit. Or perhaps I smoked too many spliffs at university and it is now beginning to catch up with me. Maybe my bs filters have been compromised. Perhaps they need beefing up a bit?

    If I am honest, I think with regard to that last point the opposite might be true. My bs detectors are working more keenly than ever before as they now get more exercise. What need does a sceptic have for the ability to discern truth? To simply impose a blanket ban on anything coming dangerously close to brushing up against the perimeter of one’s current belief system takes no real ability of discernment at all.
    It is sometimes a good thing to be a former sceptic. It allows one to identify more with sceptical arguments. Some viewpoints are actually reasonable (that’s not to say they are also valid). One of them is the thought that if there were an afterlife why is it not more evident? Surely dead people would be popping up left right and centre and making us aware of their presence. Passed loved ones would be coming back all the time to tell us they were still around. If an afterlife were real it would be as evident to us as is the fact of gravity. And I for one would have great fun haunting people if I managed to come back. That would be the start of some seriously frenetic poltergeist activity! Just think of all the wonderful possibilities for scaring the bejesus out of people.

    It would be a nice thing if there was that kind of in your face evidence to support belief in an afterlife (not the poltergeists) however what we do have is not that bad either. After years of hard work researchers have provided us with an extensive and comprehensive insight into what goes on when people come close to death.

    The words close to death are actually a bit inadequate though. The full significance of clinical death is not always obvious to people. It is not simply a case of being unconscious! When people are brain dead there is no neural activity whatsoever. Not a flicker. Not so much as a whimper of a neuron firing. In other words it is pretty much like actually being dead. I sometime hear it said that if the people had really died they would not have been bought back again. However this statement is confusing clinical death with biological death. They are two different things. It is true that if someone is biologically dead they will not come back. That’s why decomposing corpses don’t suddenly spring back to life (except on Jeremy Beadle. Remember that one where the corpse suddenly sat upright in front of the mortified mortician and said ‘hello’. Actually you wouldn’t remember it because they weren’t allowed to air that particular episode due to the fact the mortician jumped out the window. It would have been great to see though wouldn’t it?) Clinical death occurs when the heart stops beating and blood flow to the brain stops. The crucial point is that clinical death has an associated brain state of nil activity, which is also the brain state corresponding with biological death. You don’t get neurons firing in a decomposing corpse (I assume) as also you don’t get neurons firing when a person is clinically dead. That is the connection. There is admittedly some debate surrounding the validity of the assumption there is absolutely zero brain activity, since EEGs measure only surface brain activity. However there is something slightly hair splitting about making a big thing of this, as some sceptics do. In conditions such as cardiac arrest (not a heart attack) the affects on the brain are well understood. Loss of consciousness occurs in seconds due to complete cessation of blood flow, then the neurons stop firing. Simply put the brain needs oxygen (and lots of it) to function. The brain doesn’t have a reserve store of energy for a rainy day in the form of glucose or glycogen or anything like that. It gets its supply of glucose from the blood, and if that stops coming so does the glucose. And even if the brain did store its own supply of glucose it would need plenty of oxygen to burn it anyway. So the brain is in double trouble. No energy and no oxygen to burn energy. (It is true that the brain is capable of anaerobically utilizing glucose, but there still needs to be blood flow to the brain, if only deoxygenated blood which will carry on supplying the glucose. This is clearly a different situation to what we are talking about here where there is no blood flow to the brain at all. Even in that situation the anaerobic utilization of glucose contributes only to briefly maintaining cell integrity. The oxygen still needs to come back pretty sharpish!)

    The brain’s metabolic processes are very power hungry too. It burns a lot of calories to work properly. Although the brain represents only 2% of the body weight, it receives 15% of the cardiac output, 20% of total body oxygen consumption, and 25% of total body glucose utilization (Wikipedia) and the bioelectric signals in the brain consume nearly 10% of the whole bodies energy. Without that constant supply of oxygen the neurons simply stop signalling to each other and go on strike. Everything shuts down real fast. All this is very well understood and there is no real debate about it.
    As well as all this there have been studies looking at blood flow and glucose utilization in the brain at the time people have flat EEGs, using isotope tracers and such things. They find flat EEGs do correlate closely with a very inactive brain. So medical doctors are not just shooting in the dark when it comes to EEG readings. Much is understood about flat line EEGs and what it means in terms of brain activity (there is none).

    There was however this one guy, an anaesthesiologist by the name of Dr. G.M. Woerlee I think it was, who tried to make the claim this isn’t what happens. He said he was shocked by the fact that Pim Van Lommel’s research (a cardiologist from the Netherlands involved in a major NDE study) was accepted for publication in the Lancet (a well respected peer reviewed medical journal) and that it should never have got in there. He was basically claiming that cardiac arrests don’t result in a cessation of brain activity. This is the mother of all whoppers! How dare he! Someone should whip him with his stethoscope for telling such porkies! It does result in a cessation of brain activity Dr. Woerlee and you are a cheeky monkey for suggesting otherwise.

    He does raise a slightly more valid point with regards to the potential of the resuscitation procedure itself to generate some level of consciousness, such as applying heart massage, defibrillation etc. However, even though the possibly of the resusitation procedure generating some brain activity can't be entirely discounted, this doesn't seem to be an adequate explanation for the lucid and coherent forms of consciousness experienced during a typical near death experience. Can a few sporadic spikes of activity really be responsible for such elaborate and meaningful experiences? A brain trying to splurt and splutter its way back online is hardly likely to result in any coherent thought patterns. In fact this is well understood also. The immediate period of time surrounding a person regaining consciousness is typically characterized by confusion, not clear coherent thoughts. And certainly not the upgraded level of consciousness typically associated with an NDE. So there does seem to be something slightly straw clutchy about the claim this is what’s causing near death experiences. Also it doesn’t explain how people can have veridical experiences incorporating conversations that took place in another part of the hospital or viewing objects or people they had no way of knowing about by normal means even if they were fully conscious. Additionally it doesn’t seem to explain cases such as Pamela Reynolds, who due to having a deep brain aneurism had all her blood drained from her body while she was kept in a frozen state. Pam was able to identify a range of surgical instruments used during the course of the operation and was aware of conversations taking place between the surgeons while the operation took place (all verified). It also doesn’t explain people who are blind, some from birth, who are able to see during their near death experience.

    One of the more remarkable NDE cases I have heard of concerns a woman by the name of Anita Moorjani (a Facebook friend of mine). She had end stage Hodgkin’s lymphoma (a form of cancer) and was given just a few hours to live (this was back in 2006). Many of her organs had shut down by this stage and she was in a coma. This resulted in a near death experience where she was presented with the choice of whether or not to return to human life. She was told that if she made the decision to return her cancer would clear up as a result of that decision. And it did. In a matter of weeks! She went on to make a full recovery and has been in full remission ever since. The doctors concerned were completely baffled, admitting there was no medical explanation for this. In fact medically it was impossible. The huge quantity of cancer cells being flushed from her body should have killed her never mind the cancer itself. This is a well documented case that took place during 2006 in a hospital in Hong Kong.

    So the idea that a few possible spikes of electrical activity during defibrillation could cause all of these things to occur seems to be stretching things a little. Also even if one were to concede there might be undetected brain activity taking place despite the flat EEG one is still confronted with the curious fact that a dramatically reduced level of brain activity (something everyone agrees on!) results in a dramatically (in most cases) increased level of consciousness. Something doesn’t seem quite right about this. Wouldn’t you agree?
    One has to wonder about Dr. Woelee’s motives in the first place. He has published a couple of debunking NDE books and appears on various chat shows for the sole purpose of rubbishing ideas of an afterlife. Even if he doesn’t personally believe in this stuff, why is he, and people like him, on some personal crusade to persuade others not to either. This in itself doesn’t mean he is biased but one certainly wonders if this is the case. If you heard about a person who had invested serious time conducting a study in order to confirm people of a certain ethic group have inferior intelligence you would probably have immediate concerns about the quality of the research on account of the implicit bias being suggested by the actual point the person was trying to make. It wouldn't necessarily be correct to simply assume the conclusion reached was incorrect, but you would certainly have a reasonable basis for alarm bells going off in your head. (By the way this kind of study has been done. It was called phrenology and has since been thoroughly debunked). The sceptics of course could make a similiar claim about NDE researchers, claiming they are biased in favour of NDEs, but at least on close inspection their conclusions do seem to correlate with the actual data. And anyway I am not altogether convinced that kind of bias is quite the same thing as the negative bias motivating some of these sceptics.

    Another sceptical line of attack is to question the significance of the fact NDEers can accurately describe the details of the resusitation procedure used to revive them during a cardiac arrest, and in the case of operations are able to identify the surgical instruments that are used. The general claim by sceptics is these people have simply watched TV shows such as ER and have picked up details of how resusitations are performed from watching these shows. It is allegedly this they are describing. Also in the case of surgical instruments it is alleged by sceptics that it is not too hard to make intelligent guesses as to what they look like. Dr. Penny Santori, an ex-nurse and former NDE researcher, directly confronted these issues in her research. She conducted a five year study where she used a control group to establish the difference between the accuracy of the descriptions of resuscitation from people claiming to have had an NDE and those that hadn’t. It was subsequently found people who didn't have an NDE experience had no idea about the resuscitation procedure that had been administered to them, and when they made guesses their replies were based on TV dramas, and as a result were wildly inaccurate. The people who had a near death experience on the other hand were able to very accurately describe the resuscitation procedure that was used to revive them. The difference between the two groups was profound, lending considerable support to the validity of the out of body experience reported by near death experiencers. Another issue Dr. Penny Santori looked at in her research was the effects of endorphins, abnormal blood gases or low oxygen levels, the very things typically used by sceptics to explain away the near death experience. She claimed in regards to these things “all the current sceptical arguments against near death experiences were not supported by the research”. This has been consistently found in a number of other relatively recent large scale studies also. The traditional arguments against NDEs are looking quite worn. They are simply not supported by the data.

    It is not unheard of that following a near death experience people can develop some form of psychic ability, or perhaps become slightly more intuitive compared to before. This led me to do a bit of research on psychic powers. Again I was surprised regarding the scope and credibility of the research on this subject. This is all stuff I simply knew nothing about until now because my preconceived biases prevented me from ever looking into it. IONS (Institute of Noetic Sciences) has been conducting a comprehensive and detailed study of psychic phenomena for several decades, including such things as exposing one person to flashing lights and looking at corresponding brain activity of someone sitting in an adjacent room (the rooms were sealed). The results are pretty unambiguous. The global consciousness project is another study which has been running for 10 years and is still ongoing. The alleged odds of the correlates they have found to large events are something of the order of billions to one. Obviously the results are attacked by sceptics, normally on statistical grounds. I do however know something about this subject since statistics was a compulsory module during the first year of my undergraduate mathematics degree, and I have to say the accusations levelled against IONS constitute pretty basic statistical errors. Most of the researchers conducting this research are of such a calibre I find it hard to believe they are capable of making the kind of errors they are accused of. These are people with some impressive academic credentials behind them, not some whacked out bunch of hippies (sorry if you happen to be a hippy. I mean no offence).

    Going on to the subject of alternative/complementary medicine, as my girlfriend works in the local hospital as a mental health worker I am in a position to be aware of the more recent changes in attitude towards alternative and complementary therapy in the UK Health Trust. Techniques such as mindfulness have become fairly common place, and Buddhist type practitioners are springing up in the Health Trust like there’s no tomorrow. The accusation that these kind of therapies and treatments are being introduced into the health service on purely financial grounds is certainly not true according to what I am hearing. Apparently it is generally quite expensive to use complementary and alternative therapies. They are being used because they work. There are other alternative treatments available in the health service as well, including such things as reiki and reflexology. Since we are fundamentally energy anyway (I know this from physics) the idea of any healing modality that works through manipulating one's energy seems to be quite a reasonable premise. (Things like homeopathy are different. I am not sure on that one).

    People sometimes claim the only reason anyone believes in an afterlife is because it is comforting. Take that psychological motivation out of the equation and no one would believe it. I certainly think we should always be cautious about being led astray by our wishful thinking. An awareness of this character trait is healthy. If we weren’t able to rise above wishful thinking we would be at the whim of every fraudster out who relied on this potential vulnerability to dupe us into buying into whatever it was they were selling. So this character trait is a good thing to acknowledge. However it doesn't at the same time mean if something is good it isn't true. Sometimes things are good and true at the same time. If you saw the lottery results and the numbers looked somehow familiar you wouldn't fail to check your ticket simply on the assumption that you can't have won because it would be too good to be true would you? You would check your ticket anyway. That is because acknowledgment of the connection between wishing and believing things to be true isn't carte blanche to outright reject the possibility of all good things. You look at the facts. If the data or facts is justafiably leading you in a certain direction then this legitimately overrides the concern about wishful thinking getting the better of you. There should be some sort of reasonable balance between healthy sceptism and outright dogmatism. I don’t think this balance is always achieved.

    I don’t think embracing spirituality is all about believing what one wants to believe anyway. Certainly not for me it isn't. Take life reviews for instance. Thinking about these always makes me feel a bit on edge. I don't mean by this that I think they are a bad idea. I think they are a great idea! I can think of no other form of justice that is better than for everyone to be accountable for every misdeed they ever made in their lives, and to feel all the hurt and pain they inflicted on others. This has got to be the crème de la crème of any form of justice that could possibly be thought up. The only snag of course is that it applies to me as well. Another aspect of spirituality that doesn’t immediately jump out at me as being a particularly good thing is reincarnation. This is something you have to confront sooner or later if you get into studying NDE accounts in any great depth at all. There is no serious doubt that we keep coming back here (what lunatics). The good news is that we get to choose whether or not to do this. We don’t have to. It isn’t like some of the more Buddhist and Hindu kind of ideas on reincarnation where you simply default into another life when you are through with this one. That’s the good news. The bad news is you make the choice from an entirely different perspective to that of human perspective. And that lead us to make choices we would not necessarily make here. I find that a bit disempowering. Some reasons I would currently have for not wanting to come back here again mean squat to a light being (I should say light being perspective since we are light beings). So this another aspect of spirituality I have had to get my head around that hasn’t bought me any immediate comfort. I don’t like the idea of not existing but I am also not too keen on the idea of multiple trips back to Earth for yet more lesson learning. I think I am going to try and learn all my lessons in this incarnation so I don’t wind up coming back here again! In terms of the evidence to support reincarnation this is quite compelling as well. Dr. Michael Newton is just one researcher in this field who has produced surprisingly compelling results. You do have to be a bit careful with believing things like this. I am sure there are many cases of fraud, and sometimes false memories produced by hypnotism etc. But the number of compelling cases with verifiable evidence backing them up is strongly suggestive of the reality of reincarnation to say the least.
    With the issue of fraud in general, I have always had the attitude that irrespective of whether or not such a things as psychic abilities exist there are always going to be some people who will make false claims about posessing psychic abilities. That is just obvious. To some degree that probably applies to such things as NDEs as well. I'm sure some people are probably fabricating stuff for whatever reason they have. So the odd case of fraud popping up presents no surprise, whether talking about NDEs, reincarnation or whatever. The key question is whether there are enough credible cases to back the phenomena up. In the case of NDEs even sceptics don’t doubt the general validity of their occurrences. To believe otherwise is to believe there has been some global conspiracy to make them all up. Not even the sceptics believe that.

    In terms of proving conclusively by the standards of scientific rigour that there is an afterlife, that is a tricky one. I prefer to think of it more in terms of a law of court kind of thing. We can reasonably apply concepts such as balance of probability and beyond reasonable doubt to the evidence supporting the existence of an afterlife. In a civil court balance of probability will dictate the outcome of a trial (something OJ Simpson is acutely aware of after being successfully tried in a civil court). In terms of balance of probability I think that is a safe bet. In terms of beyond reasonable doubt, in my personal opinion this as well. In fact I personally know of two NDE cases where each case individually is beyond reasonable doubt, at least as far as I am concerned. So I am pretty confident overall. That’s not bad going for someone who’s most profound spiritual experience was to see Avatar. There is certainly no substitute for a personal spiritual experience but I seemed to have done quite well without one. It would be nice however to have a near death experience without the near death part wouldn't it?

    Sometimes I have heard it said that if you are going to believe the anecdotal evidence supporting NDEs then you might as well believe in the anecdotal evidence supporting anything at all. In fact you might as well believe in pixies and fairies they say. However branches of social science relies to some degree on anecdotal evidence. Surveys and questionnaires are especially used in psychology and sociology for instance. This form of research is in essence anecdotal evidence, and the results of these methods of research form the basis of many social science theories. Even the use of census forms presupposes most people will tell the truth. Additionally circumstantial eye witness testimony can sometimes secure a criminal conviction. Of course the penalty of lying under oath is a powerful enough incentive to make most people think twice about not telling the truth on the stand, but this doesn’t change the brute fact it is still anecdotal evidence. There are mistrials of course but I am not stating any of this to indicate proof of an afterlife. I am simply stating that while sceptics reject outright the use of anecdotal accounts associated with NDEs simply on the basis that it is only anecdotal evidence they will inconsistently accept it in other contexts. This seems to me to be kind of hypocritical.

    Couldn’t this same argument apply across the board though? What about all the anecdotal evidence regarding UFO sightings and other things such as alleged sightings of the Loch Ness monster and Yetis? Well anecdotal evidence is like all other forms of evidence. You take them on their individual merits. I personally don’t know enough about UFO sightings to make any sort of meaningful judgement on the matter. If I looked into it and the evidence was as suggestive as I currently believe it is for the case of near death experiences I would probably end up believing in UFOs as well. I simply don’t know because I haven’t looked into it in any depth. But it is not mutually exclusive anyway. UFOs might be a reality and NDEs might be a reality. In terms of the other things such as the sightings of monsters, fairies, pixies etc exactly the same principle applies.

    This leads us naturally to the classic archetypal sceptical argument:- extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The first question to ask oneself when considering the above statement is in what sense the notion of an afterlife is extraordinary. Or more to the point why does it seem so extraordinary. Is it because it is extraordinary in real terms or is it just extraordinary in psychological terms? What is the difference?

    The idea of consciousness existing without an associated physical form is only extraordinary if one believes that humans are physical in the first place. But what is physical? Science tells us there is no physical. At least not the way we imagine it. What we call physical is just energy. That’s all there is. The distinction between what we call the physical realm and what we would call the spiritual realm is pretty much an artificial one. According to people who have had extensive near death experiences we don’t literally go anywhere when we die. Instead it is an expansion of consciousness. The resulting expansion of awareness takes us out of this limited human perspective and enables us to perceive a larger part of reality, the part we can't perceive while in human form. The idea of living without physical form is only surprising if one insists on making a distinction between physical and spiritual. In other words it is only extraordinary in a purely psychological sense, and is simply resulting from the erroneous belief that we already live in a physical world. The world only seems physical to us because of the way the human senses work and the way the human mind works to construct a convincing appearance of physical reality. So acknowledging the fact we are not physical in the first place is in effect a realization that the notion of living a non-physical form of life is not that extraordinary at all.

    So let's go back to address the original point of why dead people don’t pop back all the time to say hi. Is there some sort of conspiracy going on to prevent us from knowing the truth? One of the things apparent from examining multiple NDE accounts is the reason we come to human life in the first place is for a bit of lesson learning (the situation is slightly more complex than this according to extensive NDEers but I will cover all that in a future post). It is clear we don’t come here for the sole purpose of having a good time. Everyone who has died and come back to tell the tale is very definite and clear about how much better it is on the other side. They generally don’t want to come back again. So this isn’t a vacation (for most of us anyway). The amnesia we have as humans of the real reality and the nature of what we really are is a deliberate design feature. It is necessary for us to be able to carry out the kind of missions we have come here for in the first place. The fact that we are beginning to get a significant hint of an afterlife now as a result of the many people being bought back through improved resuscitation techniques doesn’t offset this in any relevant way. None of this really takes away from the feeling of reality we get when we come here to Earth. We are not constantly able to remember our former spiritual lives because it would prevent us from believing the human experience is real, which is necessary in order to get what we want out of the experience. The fact that we are now getting these indications of an afterlife doesn’t really take that crucial aspect away.
    Despite acknowledging that contacts with the dead aren't everyday occurences for most people I do sincerely believe it does occur on a lesser scale. I have personally had family members tell me of events that have happened to them that are quite profound in nature. And more recently from my current girlfriend as well. These are all people I trust and I am personally sure of the fact they are not fabricating the details of these events. So as far as I am concerned contact does sometimes happen on some sort of level.

    In summary:

    Sceptics (informed ones) believe in the reality of the near death experience (they believe they do actually occur). The focus of their sceptism is generally concerning two main issues. One is the issue of how much brain activity is going on during an NDE and how this contributed to the NDE itself. The second issue of their focus concerns the timing of the NDE. For instance did the NDE happen just prior to slipping into unconsciousness or perhaps when coming out of unconsciousness.
    We have looked at why we can be sure nothing much is going on in the brain during the period of flat EEGs and found the claims of the sceptics unfounded. They are not really basing their argument on the actual data. Researchers such as Penny Santori have successfully addressed the second issue. By using a control group she found stark differences in the ability of people having NDEs to be able to accurately relate details of their resuscitation procedures compared to those who had no such experience.

    Just a quick comment on something I just recently found out about. Michael Jackson is still making music apparently. They dug him up the other day and he was decomposing.


    Post last edited Apr 10th 2012
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    The Sexual Misery of the Arab World

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    Contributing Op-Ed Writer
    By KAMEL DAOUD FEB. 12, 2016


    Credit Eiko Ojala

    ORAN, Algeria — AFTER Tahrir came Cologne. After the square came sex. The Arab revolutions of 2011 aroused enthusiasm at first, but passions have since waned. Those movements have come to look imperfect, even ugly: For one thing, they have failed to touch ideas, culture, religion or social norms, especially the norms relating to sex. Revolution doesn’t mean modernity.
    The attacks on Western women by Arab migrants in Cologne, Germany, on New Year’s Eve evoked the harassment of women in Tahrir Square itself during the heady days of the Egyptian revolution. The reminder has led people in the West to realize that one of the great miseries plaguing much of the so-called Arab world, and the Muslim world more generally, is its sick relationship with women. In some places, women are veiled, stoned and killed; at a minimum, they are blamed for sowing disorder in the ideal society. In response, some European countries have taken to producing guides of good conduct to refugees and migrants.

    Sex is a complex taboo, arising, in places like Algeria, Tunisia, Syria or Yemen, out of the ambient conservatism’s patriarchal culture, the Islamists’ new, rigorist codes and the discreet puritanism of the region’s various socialisms. That makes a good combination for obstructing desire or guilt-tripping and marginalizing those who feel any. And it’s a far cry from the delicious licentiousness of the writings of the Muslim golden age, like Sheikh Nafzawi’s “The Perfumed Garden of Sensual Delight,” which tackled eroticism and the Kama Sutra without any hang-ups.
    Today sex is a great paradox in many countries of the Arab world: One acts as though it doesn’t exist, and yet it determines everything that’s unspoken. Denied, it weighs on the mind by its very concealment. Although women are veiled, they are at the center of our connections, exchanges and concerns.

    Women are a recurrent theme in daily discourse, because the stakes they personify — for manliness, honor, family values — are great. In some countries, they are allowed access to the public sphere only if they renounce their bodies: To let them go uncovered would be to uncover the desire that the Islamist, the conservative and the idle youth feel and want to deny. Women are seen as a source of destabilization — short skirts trigger earthquakes, some say — and are respected only when defined by a property relationship, as the wife of X or the daughter of Y.
    These contradictions create unbearable tensions. Desire has no outlet, no outcome; the couple is no longer a space of intimacy, but a concern of the whole group. The sexual misery that results can descend into absurdity and hysteria. Here, too, one hopes to experience love, but the mechanisms of love — encounters, seduction, flirting — are prevented: Women are watched, we obsess over their virginity, the morality police patrols. Some even pay surgeons to repair broken hymens.

    In some of Allah’s lands, the war on women and on couples has the air of an inquisition. During the summer in Algeria, brigades of Salafists and local youths worked up by the speeches of radical imams and Islamist TV preachers go out to monitor female bodies, especially those of women bathers at the beach. The police hound couples, even married ones, in public spaces. Gardens are off-limits to strolling lovers. Benches are sawed in half to prevent people from sitting close together.

    One result is that people fantasize about the trappings of another world: either the West, with its display of immodesty and lust, or the Muslim paradise and its virgins.
    It’s a choice perfectly illustrated by the offerings of the Arab media. Theologians are all the rage on television and so are the Lebanese singers and dancers of “Silicone Valley,” who peddle the promise of their unattainable bodies and impossible sex. Clothing is also given to extremes: At one end is the burqa, the orthodox full-body covering; at the other is the hijab moutabaraj (“the veil that reveals”), which combines a head scarf with slim-fit jeans or tight pants. On the beach, the burqini confronts the bikini.
    Sex therapists are few in the Muslim world, and their advice is rarely heeded. So Islamists have a de facto monopoly on talk about the body, sex and love. With the Internet and religious TV shows, some of their speeches have taken monstrous forms, devolving into a kind of porno-Islamism. Religious authorities have issued grotesque fatwas: Making love naked is prohibited; women may not touch bananas; a man can be alone with a female colleague only if she is his milk-mother, and she has nursed him.

    Sex is everywhere.
    Especially after death.
    Orgasms are acceptable only after marriage — and subject to religious diktats that extinguish desire — or after death. Paradise and its virgins are a pet topic of preachers, who present these otherworldly delights as rewards to those who dwell in the lands of sexual misery. Dreaming about such prospects, suicide bombers surrender to a terrifying, surrealistic logic: The path to orgasm runs through death, not love.

    The West has long found comfort in exoticism, which exonerates differences. Orientalism has a way of normalizing cultural variations and of excusing any abuses: Scheherazade, the harem and belly dancing exempted some Westerners from considering the plight of Muslim women. But today, with the latest influx of migrants from the Middle East and Africa, the pathological relationship that some Arab countries have with women is bursting onto the scene in Europe.
    What long seemed like the foreign spectacles of faraway places now feels like a clash of cultures playing out on the West’s very soil. Differences once defused by distance and a sense of superiority have become an imminent threat. People in the West are discovering, with anxiety and fear, that sex in the Muslim world is sick, and that the disease is spreading to their own lands.
    Kamel Daoud, a columnist for Quotidien d’Oran, is the author of the novel “The Meursault Investigation” and a contributing opinion writer. This essay was translated by John Cullen from the French.

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    September’s Black Moon: The Rare, Powerful, Feminine Goddess Lilith.

    Via Alex Myles
    on Sep 28, 2016

    Also check out: Introduction to Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism, by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche

    *Eleditor’s note: Astrology isn’t a religion. We’re not sure it’s a science, either. It’s magic, maybe. But, as with feng shui, say, things affect things. So as long as we don’t go blaming our problems on the stars, as long as we assume responsibility for our own actions…well, hell, a little auspicious coincidence and applicable wisdom can’t hurt. And so, with that grain of salt…enjoy!
    A black moon occurs when there are two new moons within the same month.

    It is a rare celestial event that only happens approximately once ever 32 months.
    There is a New Moon at the start of each new lunar cycle and the time between one New Moon and another is approximately 29.53 days. This period is known as a synodic month. The term “synodic” is derived from the Greek word sunodikos, which translates to ‘meeting the sun,’ as the sun and the moon ‘meet’ at a New Moon.

    On September 30th 2016 the New Moon will peak in Libra for those on the Western Hemisphere, and for the Eastern Hemisphere the new moon will occur in the early hours of October 1st.
    The Black New Moon brings with it a mysterious dark impression due to it being in the shade, however, it is a highly positive influence that will draw out our intuitive, perceptive qualities as well as encouraging us to bravely embrace our weaknesses and unlock our strengths.

    September has been a month of releasing and letting go and this New Moon’s energy is going to be giving us that final push in the right direction so that we have the courage, confidence and willpower to sever ties with anything that has been causing us difficulties or to struggle with unnecessary and prolonged emotional pain.
    October is the beginning of a brand new, dynamic, energetic cycle and one that will steer us away from the negativity that has been cluttering up our lives and redirect us onto a clear, open and intriguingly fruitful pathway.

    If we set our mindset so that we are grounded and rooted in the present moment, we will feel the gentle push of the New Moon’s strong universal energy as it guides us on our way. This energy will feel as though the wind is subtly blowing through us encouraging us to keep moving forward and to uncurl our fingers from any toxicity, so that we no longer attempt to frantically cling to anything that has burned and scarred us in the past.
    The Black New Moon is connected to many Goddesses, and it is particularly linked to the hypnotic and magnificent Goddess Lilith. Lilith is associated with sexual energy, creativity, rebellion, and feminine power. She is a symbol of divine matriarchal energy that refuses to be dominated or controlled.
    Although Lilith has often been depicted as a demon with dark traits, this is not a true representation and she was only turned away from paradise, according to Hebrew legends, as she stood firm in her belief in equality, refusing to be submissive and offer her body as a sexual gift to Adam solely for his pleasure. To replace Lilith, Adam was given Eve who was willing to obey him and, unlike Lilith, she was subservient and played the role of a dutiful wife.

    Lilith is a fine inspirational example of a female that seeks to be treated fairly and is not afraid to stand up for what she believes in—even if it means she is cast out, ostracized and isolated. Her mission is to promote equality, fairness, courage and most of all liberation from patriarchy at any cost, both to align with her own morals and sanity as well as for the evolution of all living beings.
    As Lilith was cast from the Garden of Eden, her presence makes us aware of the wounds we have previously received due to rejection, abandonment or neglect of any form, so that we understand that when someone turns us away it is not a reflection of who we are as a person. Often this happens because the person who turns us away feels emotionally uncomfortable in some way, or we have challenged them to open up and accept that not everyone is going to conform to whatever their expectations may desire.

    Lilith was punished and rejected simply for being her true authentic self and her influence over these matters entices us to let go of the worries we have about what other people think about us and it also encourages us not to take cruel and needless criticisms straight to the heart. Being ourselves is never something we should feel ashamed of; we are unique beings, and we should not be made to feel unworthy just because others do not see our light, rarity and value.

    This New Moon phase will show us that if we have been judged harshly or if we don’t slot neatly into the folds of society’s expectations, then it is okay to carve out our own route, in our own way—and to know that as long as our morals and intentions are mindful, balanced and heart-centered we can rise like a phoenix and leave behind the ashes of resentment, frustration or anger that we may have once felt.

    The significance of this New Moon and Lilith’s association with it is that she is fiercely independent, decisive, determined and she does not suffer fools. Lilith’s energy is here to support us as we gracefully say goodbye to anyone or anything that wasn’t meant for us and we also release the pain and tension that has built up through attempting to hold on for far too long.
    Unfortunately, we can form unhealthy habits when we pine and obsess over what we can’t have or when we wish things were different to how they actually are. This can mean we prolong our grief, anguish and suffering due to projecting our desires on to people or trying to grasp tightly to what has already passed us by.
    When we purge ourselves of the agonising, deep-rooted emotions that are buried within us we will feel ourselves embark on a transformational healing journey. We will immediately start to feel lighter, freer, at one with ourselves and with a profound sense of inner peace.

    On the Black New Moon Lilith illuminates our shadow side including our incessant yearnings, desires and temptations—as well as the intense, raw, unpleasant emotions that have been simmering away in our unconscious mind. The insights we will be receiving are a blessing and all of these things swirling in the undercurrent are being unearthed so that we can acknowledge, process and understand our emotions fully before we cleanse and lovingly release them from our psyche.
    The main impact that Lilith will have on us during these next few days is within our relationships as she harmonizes and helps us to bring them into balance, assisting us with sieving out any that have consistently been pulling as under. This gives us the space to create, or to focus our undivided attention on, nourishing intimate soul-to-soul harmonious connections that bring with them the highest levels of bonding, trust, closeness and togetherness, as they are immersed in unconditional love while being entirely devoid of illusions and codependence.
    We will notice an internal shift happening as we are no longer willing to try our hardest to please and pander to those who do not treat us respectfully or with kindness, and we will place our self-worth in a sacred place of importance where it deserves to permanently sit.

    Lilith is often pictured with an apple in her hand as in the Garden of Eden she turned herself into a serpent to tempt Eve into eating the apple, as it was the fruit of all knowledge. Lilith’s intention was one of sisterhood, not of vengeance, as she hoped that by eating the fruit Eve would gain the ability to see Adam with clarity and become wiser, more aware and empowered in her femininity so that she would not compromise herself solely to please him.

    During this New Moon period Lilith will be offering us the essence of the same fascinating energy of this forbidden fruit so that, like her, we also have the insight, knowledge and courage required to see our situations clearly and break free from any harmful, outdated cultural demands and unfair projections.

    We are being called to take the lead in our lives and to own our beauty, sexuality and sensuality without feeling as though it is something we have been gifted purely to pleasure and satisfy the needs of the opposite sex. This applies to both males and females. This is our time to accept our selves in our full glory and to bite and taste the delicious fruit of life without feeling guilt, fear or remorse.
    We will start to notice a new wave of confidence and inner strength that will empower us to step into our wholeness and live our lives to the full while understanding that every experience we have holds significant importance and that it is absolutely okay to make a variety of mistakes as we wander—as we will always learn vital soul expanding lessons through them.
    Although we aren’t likely to see this Black New Moon in the sky on Friday, it will still be elegantly gracing us with its presence, so if we head out into the night we will be rewarded with a rare opportunity to absorb an abundant flow of radiant, powerful waves of immensely positive, transformational energy.

    On Friday 30th the sky will be darker than normal making it the perfect time for stargazing as the stars will appear far brighter on this night due to the absence of the moon’s glow.

    The 13th Planet Dark Moon Lilith as the 'Hidden Nemesis of Wormwood Nibiru'
    and other NABS misidentifications



    A Deeper Look: Astrology Beyond the Traditional Planets

    Lilith - The Dark Moon


    (published in The Second Road newsletter, October 1998.)

    by Catt Foy

    copyright 1998, Catt Foy

    She is reputedly Adam's first wife, before Eve. She is known as a demoness, the killer of infants in their cradles. She is the original woman, who refused to be subjugated to a man's desires. Consort to both the devil and God himself, she is the enigmatic and mysterious Lilith.

    A little-known element in astrology charts, Lilith is known as the "dark Moon" and, as such, represents our "dark" or hidden emotional selves. According to Lois Daton, author of "Lilith, The Planet of the Doodler," the physical existence of Lilith was confirmed by the United States Weather Bureau in 1879. Lilith is the name used for two different celestial bodies - one is located in the asteroid belt and is not our subject here, the other is an invisible body orbiting the earth approximately three times farther away than the Moon, Luna. It is this Lilith which is of interest here.

    Lilith's placement in the chart is especially important to women, and represents the power of the original woman. In a man's chart, Lilith's placement will reveal the hidden power struggles or other issues he may have, resolved or unresolved, with the women in his life.

    Lilith was known to the Chaldean astrologers; the Egyptians called her Nephthys. The name Lilith is derived from the old Semitic word for night, "lel" or "lelath", in Arabic "laylah," which also means "ghost" or "spectre" in Hebrew. She is associated with the Death card in Tarot and with the goddesses Persephone, Hecate, Athena, Minerva. She is associated with the Owl, representing secrecy and wisdom, and she is frequently connected with cats.


    In Lilith astrology one can use three Lilith Moon’s. Black Moon Lilith, Asteroid Lilith and the lesser known Dark Moon Lilith. Together they work as a Triple Moon Goddess, which describes a process of transformation. The three Lilith’s are also useful in pinpointing which brand of Lilith energy is strongest in your chart and at which stage you may have the most issues with. After studying Eris in detail it is apparent to me that she is the higher octave of Lilith. Eris is the Uber-Dark Goddess and by combining her with the outer planets we can see how each corresponds quite neatly with three phases of the moon.

    To see the Lilith archetype in terms as a triple goddess makes total sense to me. After I wrote this post I discovered Demetria George had come up with a similar concept about Lilith. Comparing it to the bible story she says: ” The Asteroid Lilith describes the first stage in the mythical journey where she is suppressed, humiliated and flees in a fiery rage to the desolate wilderness. The Dark Moon Lilith depicts the pain of her exile where she plots and executes revenge. The Black Moon Lilith shows how she transmutes her distorted image back into its natural healthy expression” [1]


    [2:53:05 PM] Thubanis:

    Dragon Almanac:

    The 'Plumed Serpent' ABC...XYZA* = 27||72 = WORLD = LAWWAL = 2x{1+2+3+...+34+35+36}=666+666=1332

    Quetzacoatl = 72x12=864=32x27 = 153 = 9 = 666

    '12 Hourtime of Day'=72x6=432=16x27='12 Hourtime of Night'


    72=864/12=360x26/130=65x144/130 = {60x60x24}/{60x20}={86,400 Seconds in 24 Hours}/{⅓ Hour} = Precessional Dragon Years per Sign 12 in 13
    65x144,000 (Mayan Baktuns) = 9,360,000 Days (Mayan Kin) = 360x26,000 Dragon Days = 390x24,000 Moon Days

    25,626.81 'Civil Years' = {9,360,000 Dragon Days/365.2425 Civil Days} = {9,360,000 Dragon Days/390 Moon Days}
    26,000 Dragon Sun Years = 25,626.81 'Civil Gregorian' Years = {12/13}26,000
    = 24,000 Dragon Moon Years

    The Dark Moon Lilith Circle of 9x40°=360° in 9=¾{12} Circle Years
    {40°40' per 'civil year' in 8.85 'civil years' 9 months per sign}
    24,000 ancient years x 390 ancient days = 26,000 ancient years x 360 ancient days =
    9,360,000 ancient days
    9,360,000 ancient days =5 major cycles x 13 minor cycles = 65 cycles of 144,000 ancient days
    =9,360,000 ancient days
    9,360,000 ancient days/360 ancient days = 26,000 ancient years
    9,360,360 ancient days/360 ancient days = 26,001 ancient years
    9,360,000 ancient days/260 ancient days = 36,000 ancient cycles of 260 days
    260 ancient day cycle = 5 days per ancient week x 4 ancient weeks (of 5 ancient days) =
    20 ancient days x 13 cycles of 20 ancient days = 260 ancient days

    Tony Bermanseder and Susan Lynne Schwenger

    The Astronomical Lilith

    The Moon travels along an elliptical path around the Earth. An ellipse has two focal points, and the other focal point, not occupied by the Earth has been called the Dark Moon, the Black Moon or Lilith. This is a slightly simplified definition, since, actually, the Moon and the Earth both move around their common centre of gravity, and the path of the Moon is not a neat el...lipse, but a rather wobbly affair. One must distinguish between the mean orbit of the Moon, which is a slowly elongating ellipse, and the actual orbit, which vaccilates around the mean path, due to interference of various kinds. Just as there a "mean" and a "true" Lunar Node, so there is a "mean" and a "true" ellipse and a "mean" and a "true" Lilith. I write "true" in inverted commas, because the Moon's Node is only "true" about twice per month, when the Moon is actually on it, for the rest of the time, it is as "untrue" as the mean Node. In fact, when working with a point so close to the Earth, one should also take the great parallax into consideration, i.e. consider, from which point on the Earth one is actually looking at a point in the heavens. Astrology observes the planets geocentrically, as if from the Earth's centre, and not topocentrically, from the actual place of the observer.

    Black Moon Lilith is the ultimate archetype in Dark Goddess Astrology. Her myth comes from Lilith, Adams first wife who refused to lay beneath him during the sexual act and otherwise.

    She chose to be exiled from paradise rather to submit to God. She is also the serpent who tempted Eve with the forbidden fruit (enlightenment/sex), which then banished both Adam & Eve from paradise also.

    There are many full versions of this myth on the net She can be said she represents the Witch archetype. Magic, the kundalini, occult knowledge, the taboo, owning your sovereignty, the shadow, dreams, psychic ability, goddess power and creativity that is not just about making babies.

    With Black Moon Lilith there are two points that you can place in the chart. The Mean and the True (or Osculating.) I used to think the True wasn't important until I saw it rising in the chart of Marilyn Monroe and then decided to look it up and see if it was relevant. Bear in mind you really need an accurate birthtime to use True Lilith as it wavers so much. Mean Lilith is best to use without a time. I like what Juan Antonio Revilla says about it here:

    "The Mean Apogee or Black Moon... It's movement is actually as round and regular as the hands of a clock and it is very easy to calculate. This roundness of its motion is not a good representative of the nocturnal and magic demoness Lilith; "he goes onto say. "The Osculating Apogee,... Some people reject it because it doesn't make any sense to them to have it swing as much as 30 degrees from the mean position and have abrupt and irregular changes of velocity and direction, but I think it is precisely this erratic behavior what makes it the best representative of the irrational, instinctive, and primal symbolism of Lilith."

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